[10:03] <elfy> anyone know how I can get a screenshot from the login screen - got an odd graphics issue, but it's only apparent there
[10:04] <ali1234> maybe... hang on
[10:05] <ali1234> http://askubuntu.com/questions/43458/how-can-i-take-a-screenshot-of-the-login-screen something like this
[10:05] <ali1234> for odd graphics issues, a photo of the screen is often prefered
[10:05] <elfy> I think that's what I'll do ali1234 :)
[10:08] <ali1234> so... i've been hacking on the places plugin
[10:09] <ali1234> gvfs bookmark support, plus the correct icons for local stuff: http://imagebin.org/276277
[10:11] <ali1234> hmm... i should fix the translation of "wastebasket"
[10:13] <elfy> ali1234: looks good, though I've got the gtk3 things installed here and places doesn't appear to be available
[10:14] <ali1234> that's because you have indicators in /usr/local
[10:14] <ali1234> and panel... and it will only load plugins from /usr/local
[10:14] <ali1234> so you'll only get indicator-plugin and the built in ones unless you install them manually
[10:18] <elfy> assumed something like that 
[10:18] <elfy> not worried enough to do anything though :)
[11:59] <elfy> hi brainwash 
[11:59] <brainwash> hey elfy 
[12:00] <elfy> you got triumphant tarball installed yet?
[12:00] <brainwash> trusty?
[12:00] <elfy> yea
[12:01] <brainwash> the upgrade "finished", I had to continue it manually twice due to disk space issues =S
[12:01] <elfy> do you see what you expect to see in Thunar Devices? 
[12:02] <elfy> not working here 
[12:02] <elfy> lol - running out of room was it :D
[12:02] <brainwash> yes
[12:02] <brainwash> currently I'm missing like 7-8 GB disk space
[12:02] <elfy> good 
[12:02] <elfy> oh dear 
[12:02] <brainwash> simply gone
[12:02] <brainwash> yeah, strange
[12:03] <brainwash> I had do move some stuff to home during the installation to free some space
[12:03] <brainwash> like docs and so on
[12:04] <brainwash> now I would like to move them back :)
[12:04] <elfy> :)
[12:04] <brainwash> but everything seems to work, so I didn't care that much about this little issue yet
[12:05] <brainwash> it's a test installation after all
[12:05] <elfy> yep 
[12:05] <elfy> I tend to set one up and then use it full-time and use a seperate one to test stuff in
[12:05] <elfy> with the last release available for 'those' days ... 
[12:07] <elfy> now I've said all that I can't remember why I'd opened thunar and  what I wanted from saucy :|
[12:09] <brainwash> bug?
[12:09] <elfy> possibly with thunar - devices are missing
[12:09] <brainwash> the external ones
[12:09] <elfy> but that's not what I wanted from saucy 
[12:10] <brainwash> no one cares about saucy anymore :/
[12:10] <elfy> brainwash: there are a couple of partitions on the machine that aren't mounted in general - like other xub installs
[12:12] <elfy> I care - I just care about trusty more now :)
[12:12] <elfy> I'd like to see the vol thing sorted if nothing else 
[12:12] <brainwash> volume indicator?
[12:12] <elfy> yea
[12:13] <brainwash> yeah, the upgrade process broke it once again (reverted the workaround)
[12:13] <elfy> I got the gtk3 indicators installed on this install 
[12:14] <brainwash> right, we are still waiting for the PPA
[12:14] <brainwash> so everyone can test it easily
[12:15] <elfy> yep 
[12:18] <brainwash> I'll try to fix my trusty installation now, cya :)
[12:19] <elfy> cya - I'm in and out today
[13:01] <ochosi> bluesabre, jjfrv8: i reviewed and updated the parts slickymaster finished, just fyi (he's offline now so we'll have to ping him once he's back)
[13:03] <bluesabre> ochosi, great!
[13:04] <ochosi> hey bluesabre 
[13:04] <bluesabre> how's it going ochosi?
[13:04] <ochosi> good good, finally have internet at home
[13:04] <ochosi> just installed a few things today (wifi-repeater, 7m cable in the corridor)
[13:05] <bluesabre> awesome, welcome back :D
[13:06] <ochosi> thanks :)
[13:06] <ochosi> have friends over for the weekend, so won't have much time
[13:06] <bluesabre> thats cool, same here
[13:06] <ochosi> righty
[13:07] <bluesabre> trying to hack around with the symbolic icons in the playview a bit :)
[13:07] <ochosi> then let's check a few things soonish (mpris2-plugin)
[13:07] <ochosi> ah cool
[13:07] <ochosi> that'd also be a nice fix
[13:07] <bluesabre> I'll look into the plugin tonight, so awesome to see all the progress on it so quickly
[13:07] <ochosi> yeah
[13:07] <ochosi> it was really cool of them to pick things up so quickly
[13:07] <ochosi> and i think the code is very similar
[13:08] <ochosi> so we saved a lot of time there
[13:08] <bluesabre> definitely
[13:08] <ochosi> the only other thing i'd like to tackle soon is the X11-screensaver-forcing on is_locker in the greeter
[13:09] <ochosi> gotta check how that works...
[13:09] <ochosi> i presume you've never done anything like that before?
[13:09] <bluesabre> that would be correct :)
[13:15] <ochosi> hehe, fine
[13:15] <ochosi> i'll see what i can do
[14:15] <brainwash> elfy: looks like a btrfs snapshot has been created before/during the upgrade process, now allocating over 7 GB disk space
[14:17] <elfy> aah - didn't know you used that 
[14:19] <brainwash> but why would it create a snapshot in the first place?
[14:19] <elfy> isn't that what it's supposed to do?
[14:19] <elfy> that was my vague understanding of it
[14:20] <brainwash> but running out of disk space during the upgrade process is somewhat bad
[14:20] <elfy> indeed
[14:22] <elfy> shouldn't the onus for that being on whoever is upgrading - seems the same to me as people who are daft enough to have a 100Mb /boot who find it's not a good idea
[14:22] <brainwash> meh, irc client crash now
[14:22] <elfy> lol
[14:23] <brainwash> it's 2013 already and btrfs is still causing so much trouble
[14:24] <brainwash> balancing the filesystem already caused a kernel panic twice
[14:24] <brainwash> and the performance isn't that great from me either
[15:30] <jjfrv8> ochosi, DVD section is ready for review.
[15:31] <jjfrv8> ochosi, I put the right-click menu at the end of the 'Using the Control Bar' section. It seemed to fit better there, but it can be moved if you disagree.
[15:32] <jjfrv8> bluesabre, if you would, check me out on the DVD menu item descriptions. I don't know if I've described them accurately (or clearly).
[21:55] <elfy> brainwash: so - I now have devices working in thunar, no idea how it (or I ) managed to do it, but I had this and the saucy partitions mounting as /
[21:55] <elfy> confusion reigned here for a while. 
[22:01] <elfy> quick check with a vm to make sure it's not going horribly wrong
[22:33] <brainwash> elfy: strange, same for the btrfs snapshot which has been created during the upgrade
[22:36] <Unit193> brainwash: Waking up from suspend is still working for me, but may actually go back to calling pm-suspend as wireless wakes up faster.
[22:36] <Unit193> Btrfs? \o/
[22:37] <elfy> brainwash: sorry to disappoint - but all seems ok here - though that is today's daily - I had installed this install yesterdayish
[22:38] <brainwash> Unit193: a snapshot of / has been created during the upgrade to trusty, consuming about 7 GB space
[22:38] <Unit193> ...Can't say that's a good thing.
[22:38] <brainwash> so I did run out of disk space and had to move stuff around and continue the upgrade process manually
[22:39] <brainwash> first time actually testing btrfs =S
[22:39] <brainwash> I assume apt triggered the creation of that snapshot
[22:39] <brainwash> some sort of backup solution
[22:40] <brainwash> Unit193: using pm-utils directly won't put the network-manager into sleep mode, so it's back online faster I guess :)
[22:41] <Unit193> Heh, nice.  Know of any problems with doing that?  Otherwise I'm waiting for wireless to come back.
[22:41] <Unit193> (Which isn't really a problem)
[22:42] <brainwash> no clue
[22:42] <brainwash> if it work, it works