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xubuntu136xubuntu is my favorite linux distro i always have it installed on my pc ! canonical looses its time with unity cause it sucks !00:01
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mikodoWhere can I find the logs from Nov 7/13's Xubuntu-devel meeting?01:29
GridCubeirclogs.ubuntu.com for starters01:30
mikodothx. I'll try there01:31
GridCubeall other ubuntu services are down for the moment01:31
mikodoGridCube, Aah! I think I got it with the one you posted. Thx.01:33
HiddenDjinnrsync question: i have my sshd on a port other than 22, how do i tell it to connect to that port while copying over a shell?01:50
Unit193--port=PORT             specify double-colon alternate port number01:55
David-AHiddenDjinn: or explicit ssh command using -e 'ssh ...'01:58
HiddenDjinnUnit193, thanks01:58
mikodoGood to read on xubuntu-devel that Trusy is going to remain with x.org.01:59
mikodoGoodnight.02:00
C4RR3Hey everyone, I05:03
C4RR3have a problem with my laptop computer running xubuntu05:04
C4RR3I spilled wine on the keyboard and it keeps pressing enter05:04
C4RR3how do i disable through the settings the laptop keyboard so that it can ignore it while i use the05:04
C4RR3other keyboard I have?05:04
C4RR3Thanks in advance, it's really annoying as you can see. :)05:04
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mushy_!help06:10
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:10
mushy_!patience long install06:10
ubottumushy_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:10
mushy_is anyone alive at gmt -6?06:11
pleia2yes, but this is a support channel and you haven't asked a support question :)06:12
blobbaHello! i just downloaded xubuntu 13.10 iso and have some questions.09:19
bekksSo ask them...09:19
blobbaThe computrer that im going to install has no cd/dvd. how do i get it on a flashdrive and boot from that?09:20
bekks!usb | blobba09:25
ubottublobba: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent09:25
blobbaim still having problems!09:39
bekksblobba: You still have to ask...09:40
blobbaim on ubuntu 12.04 and installed usb-creator-gtk from synaptic09:40
blobbastarted the precces and got a segmenfault!09:40
blobbasegmentfault09:40
blobbai erased my usbdrive with usb-creator-gtk09:41
blobbamaybe i should format the drive in nautilus?09:41
bekksUse unetbootin instead.09:41
blobbafrom synaptic?09:42
bekksYou dont need to format a drive whatsoever in nautilus.09:42
bekksblobba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Unetbootin-109:42
blobbaseems to be working! thanx!09:44
blobbathis xubuntu is free from that abomination called unity right?09:45
blobbawill most stuff thet works with regular ubuntu work with xubuntu?09:47
blobbaif i follow a guide somewhere that is for regular ubuntu is it going to work?09:47
knomeblobba, 1) there is no unity in xubuntu 2) most (pretty much all) stuff that works in ubuntu should work in xubuntu, but they might need a lot of other packages to be installed 3) yes09:48
knomeor 3) yes, most probably09:48
knomexubuntu uses the same core as ubuntu09:49
blobbanice! this computer im installing it on is my HTPC so i only use XBMC and Google Chrome more or less...09:49
blobbadoes VDPAU work?09:50
knomei don't know by experience, but if it works with ubuntu, it should09:51
blobbaok thanx.09:51
blobbahmm, it seems the procces with unetbootin to creat my bootdrive froxe at 33%!?09:52
blobbafroze09:52
ur0plhi10:20
ur0pli don't see the top toolbar10:20
ur0plhow do i get it again?10:20
ur0pli tried restart lightdm , but that didn't fix it10:21
well_laid_lawnur0pl:  is it in your autostart file?10:24
ur0pli did something like alt-f4 and now it is gone10:25
ur0pli tried logging out and back in, but it didn't fix it10:25
ur0plokay10:26
ur0pli just ran xfce4-panel in a screen session10:27
ur0plso it is fixed10:27
ur0plfuck10:27
ur0pli'm just going to restart10:27
knomeur0pl, watch your language10:27
ur0pli just did a restart10:29
ur0pland it is still gone10:30
ur0plwhat is my autostart file?10:30
bekks!autostart10:31
ubottuTo add programs or scripts to start when logging in, use Applications menu -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Session and Startup -> tab "Application autostart" - See !boot for starting (non-interactive) programs at boot10:31
ur0plthere is no setting to auto start xfce4-panel10:32
ur0plwhat i need to do is restore the default panel settings10:51
elfyur0pl: I remember have the same issue for a while - I just added an item for it to Application Autostart10:52
ur0plokay i fixed it10:53
ur0pli had to delete some config files10:53
xubuntu034hello11:13
nostromoWhen I alter brightness, a popup-notification informs the desktop of the change. Some process has sent a dbus message to the Notification daemon. My question here is which pkg/process generates that popup notification? xfce4-power-man, acpid, or another?11:14
xubuntu034been looking for answers on how to properly get my nvidia drivers working with steam. Read thru many articles still no help11:14
brainwashxubuntu034: try #ubuntu-steam11:18
xubuntu034thanks11:18
xubuntu034hmmm there n ot much help there or they are all afk11:27
brainwashxubuntu034: do you have any specific question? if it's a general ubuntu driver issue, why not ask in #ubuntu :)11:30
xubuntu034been looking for answers on how to properly get my nvidia drivers working with steam. Read thru many articles still no help11:31
brainwashso what exactly is the problem?11:31
xubuntu034i am using xubuntu 13.04 with a nvidia 660ti if that helps11:31
cfhowlett!nvidia|xubuntu034, ask in the #general channel for my eyes on maybe11:31
ubottuxubuntu034, ask in the #general channel for my eyes on maybe: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto11:31
xubuntu034it seem the opengl is not activating11:31
xubuntu034i have the driver install and working but it needs to run the 32 bit open gl for steam11:33
Junkai dont get much battery life on my laptop11:33
Junkaany suggestions?11:33
xubuntu034http://i.imgur.com/m22Ja0m.jpg this is the error I recieve11:36
brainwashxubuntu034: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/24811:39
xubuntu034wierd that I should have this isse with a newer 660ti11:40
brainwashwhich driver version?11:41
brainwashshould be 310 or newer I assume11:41
xubuntu034313.3011:43
Poisoned_DragonWait... is that a GT660?11:46
xubuntu034no its a GeForce GTX 660 Ti/PCIe/SSE211:47
Poisoned_Dragonok, GTX.11:48
Poisoned_DragonPoint is, how are you only using 313.30, which I've never heard of, on a GTX660, when I'm using 319 on a Geforce 8 series card?11:49
xubuntu034good question11:49
Poisoned_DragonAlso, I came in late. What was your original problem?11:50
xubuntu034http://i.imgur.com/m22Ja0m.jpg this is the error I recieve11:50
Poisoned_DragonOoooooooh... You're using Steam.11:52
Poisoned_DragonIsn't a prerequisite of steam to have a certain beta driver or better installed? 319 should be mature enough to warrant an update.11:53
Poisoned_DragonAfter all, your GPU is more than capable.11:53
xubuntu034looking at the nvidia page for my card it seems that the suggested drivers by the sofware update are a bit old11:54
Poisoned_DragonIf I can run 319, you can run circles with 319.11:54
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Poisoned_DragonAdditional Drivers suggested 313.10?11:54
xubuntu034yea..11:54
Poisoned_Dragonhmm... What version of Xubuntu are you on?11:55
xubuntu03413.0411:55
Poisoned_DragonWell, I was using 309 on 13.04. I'm on 13.10 now.11:55
Poisoned_Dragon13.10 suggested 319 for me.11:56
xubuntu034maybe i dont have the correct things selected ni my sofware update11:58
Poisoned_DragonI don't think there's much to customize with the Additional Drivers component.11:59
Poisoned_DragonShort of telling you to try 13.10, I dunno what to suggest.11:59
Poisoned_DragonI'm lucky my setup works now. XD12:00
xubuntu034wonder why it is suggesting such old drivers12:00
Poisoned_DragonAnd I had to tweak it, quite a bit, to get video playback, and other things, to stop tearing.12:00
Poisoned_DragonIt might be an xorg version thing.12:01
Poisoned_DragonI probably would have been on 313.30 if I had not upgraded the distro.12:01
xubuntu034so maybe upto 13.1012:03
xubuntu034does that mean a full reinstall or can i keep what i have12:03
Poisoned_DragonUm... Well, there is a procedure to upgrade without doing a clean install. But, I find it best to do it clean12:06
xubuntu034ok im off to go do more testing12:06
Poisoned_DragonI tried the other way and had some hiccups. Especially with upgrading to the next version of Nvidia drivers. I didn't even know there was a newer driver until I saw it install.12:06
xubuntu034thanks for your help12:07
stephen_sti6999hello! I have xubuntu 13.10 and have added cinnamon 2.0 so I can have two light DT to use, but menus have doubled up menu entrys like bluetooth etc, so what would be the best clean up method?12:30
cfhowlettstephen_sti6999, sudo apt-get purge packageyoudon'twant12:30
stephen_sti6999thank you12:31
irgendwer4711hi, how to increase the value for the margin of window?13:12
irgendwer4711very difficult to hit the resize field at corner13:13
Poisoned_DragonThat's usually based on the theme you use. Either edit the theme file, or just use another theme.13:15
Poisoned_DragonOh... Window Theme13:16
Poisoned_DragonNot appearance theme13:16
irgendwer4711it there a gui for that task?13:16
TheSheepirgendwer4711: but there is no need to hit the border13:16
TheSheepirgendwer4711: just hold down alt and drag with the right mouse button13:16
Poisoned_DragonOh... Right. There are other ways to resize.13:16
Poisoned_DragonWell, even I didn't know that. :)13:17
irgendwer4711ok thats for linux users, I very often use windows ;-)13:17
Poisoned_DragonLearn something new.13:17
irgendwer4711but I have windows at work, would be nice if my pc could behave like it13:17
irgendwer4711where to edit this value?13:18
irgendwer4711I am using greybird13:19
TheSheepediting windows themes is quite an advanced topic13:20
TheSheepbest just choose a theme that has larger border13:21
TheSheephttp://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201008/page04.html13:22
TheSheephere is a blog post about customizing the themes13:22
Junkagmusicbrowser is the volume indicator right? if I remove it and install rhythmbox will rhythmbox take it's place on the indicator?13:26
irgendwer4711I read, I have to change "right_width"13:28
irgendwer4711but I dont know which folter. am I using xfwm4 oder xfce-notify?13:31
Poisoned_Dragonthe window manager is xfwm413:32
irgendwer4711the is no theme file in this folder13:32
irgendwer4711oh, I found out that a image sized the border13:35
Poisoned_DragonYou really should just choose another theme from Settings Manager; Window Manager.13:35
irgendwer4711have to13:35
TheSheepalso, instead of modifying a theme in place, first copy it to your ~/.themes directory, so that upgrades won't overwrite your changes13:36
irgendwer4711kokodi seems to be good.13:37
irgendwer4711ok that was an unimportand task, now the importand one. how to setup a 4k-hdd right.13:38
irgendwer4711it seems to be that my hdd runs in 512bytes mode13:38
irgendwer4711any hardware expert here today? :-D13:40
TheSheepirgendwer4711: there is always ##hardware13:43
irgendwer4711its a linux thing13:43
irgendwer4711how to setup a good partition for 4k use13:44
TheSheepI have no idea what 4k is, so can't help you13:45
irgendwer4711old hdd have 512 byte per sector, the new one use 409613:45
TheSheepI don't think you need to setup anything specially for that13:47
irgendwer4711there are rules for the alignment auf partitions13:48
TheSheepsure, but gparted has an option to do it automatically13:48
TheSheep(gparted is the partition editor that the installer uses)13:49
irgendwer4711I have it running. this was my choice13:49
irgendwer4711ok, i have to logout for this. bye13:52
akis632 days ago i faced a 'resolved problem' issue after last chromium update (Version 30.0.1599.114 Ubuntu 12.04 (30.0.1599.114-0ubuntu0.12.04.3). Using Mozilla i am facing the same problems. I asked my ISP if there is any line's problem and they answered negativily. I searched google and i saw that other users are facing similar problems (http://askubuntu.com/questions/371791/how-do-i-address-chromium-slowdown-following-update). i read about the15:53
akis63open DNS servers and many similar things and although i tried them nothing changed. any similar expirience?15:53
HiddenDjinnwhy would mail servers on the web refuse to speak to a postfix instance?16:34
xubuntu123Hello, got one question. I have some difficulties with installing xubuntu on Acer AOA 150 ZG5 via USB. I tried unetbootin, but it seems it isn't working as the other laptot (Dell Latitude) do. So I decided to try PXE boot. The only question stands:16:59
xubuntu123where would I get tfptboot files16:59
holsteinxubuntu123: if the machine boots USB, it'll act just like a cd rom on boot with unetbootin16:59
holsteinxubuntu123: what is the issue you encounter?16:59
holsteinxubuntu123: you would get the files where you host them17:00
xubuntu123It halted just after the line: SYSLINUX <versio> <copyright> and blinking carriage underneath that line.17:00
xubuntu123I suppose it's grub(?) issue, that can't load graphical section which is blue box17:00
holsteinxubuntu123: have you tried safe graphics? have you tried another usb stick?17:00
holstein!nomodeset17:01
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:01
xubuntu123holstein: the very same usb stick works fine on two other computers17:01
holsteinxubuntu123: and nomodeset?17:01
xubuntu123I did not make any modification to usb stick after the software did. I lack knowledge frankly about modyfing the files17:02
holsteinxubuntu123: try nomodeset, please.. its not a way of editing the stick at all.. assuming that the stick is "good", and the system boots usb, and the usb and other hardware function properly, what could be going on is, the grahpics driver is unable to load the desktop on that particular hardware17:03
holsteinxubuntu123: using the nomodeset option from the live USB is an easy way to test if this is the case or not..17:04
xubuntu123OK, will get some lecture to set it.17:04
xubuntu123I believe, that the unetbootin menu is located in isolinux directory, there is isolinux.cfg file having a specific line: ui gfxboot bootlogo17:07
holsteinxubuntu123: dont "believe"... load the specific grub menu. if unetbootin is a problem, dont use it.. i use drivedroid on my android phone. there are other USB stick iso creators17:08
holsteinxubuntu123: i seem to remember being able to easily edit these at boot time, even using unetbootin.. dont bother with making a persistent change to the iso, or USB stick.. just edit and test the one time17:09
holsteinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1652925.html suggests - I create LiveUSBs with UNetbootin and then go to the syslinux.cfg file and remove quiet splash and add in whatever is relevant for my machine.17:10
Poisoned_DragonOh yeah, when the boot menu is displayed you can press tab over the boot option you want and add options.17:16
Poisoned_DragonSome menus are a little different and have you press e. ymmv17:16
holsteinPoisoned_Dragon: what do you do for unetbootin specifically?17:16
Poisoned_DragonSadly, I haven't used it in a while. Does it tell you at the menu what to press to edit commands?17:18
Poisoned_DragonThese days, I use dd when I know the iso is hybrid.17:18
Poisoned_Dragonunetbootin gives me issues on some distros.17:18
holsteinxubuntu123: thats very true.. the iso are dd friendly17:18
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xubuntu182Hi18:05
Unit193Bye.18:06
gdoshow do i *HIDE* users on the login screen? I have created a shell account for a user but do not want that user to be displayed on the login screen. I tried putting the users name in '/etc/lxdm/users.conf' but still won't hide the user.18:32
gdoser, that should be '/etc/lightdm/users.conf'18:33
well_laid_lawngdos:  see if this helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Boot_Install_Login#Changing_LightDM_Settings18:35
Monkeytoequestion, I have my power settings under ac (actions) set to never, and under monitor (actions) set to never... I also have the screensaver disabled but my xubuntu machine still goes to a black screen like every 10 minutes if I am not doing something... how can I disable this?19:01
well_laid_lawnxset -dpms19:05
bekksMonkeytoe: Then check the powersavings of your display, too.19:07
Unit193And systemd, see if that's taking over.19:10
mhdI have a problem with Mypaint causing a broken pipe crash in the X server19:34
irgendwer4711hi, me again :-)20:16
irgendwer4711I noticed that the border of windows are extend into invisible area outside of screen20:20
irgendwer4711window icon is parted too20:21
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sharpnel122:13
Rorysharpnel: That's numberwang22:24
sharpneli am banned for i dont know what reason everywhere22:24
sharpnelheres the only channel i can talk it seems22:25
sharpnel:(22:25
Rorysharpnel: Are you banned in #ubuntu? You can /join #ubuntu-ops and find out the reason for your ban22:25
sharpneli run /mode #ubuntu b22:26
sharpneland i dont have a ban but i still cant talk there22:26
sharpnel:(22:26
Rorysharpnel: What happens when you try?22:26
RoryI saw your "1" in #ubuntu22:26
sharpnel:Cannot send to channel22:27
sharpnelit shows me this22:27
sharpnel:(22:27
Roryjoin #ubuntu-ops maybe you're muted?22:27
Unit193sharpnel: He said he could see you.  If you think you are still having problems #ubuntu-ops is the place to get help.22:28
sharpnelthnx guys ill try22:28
wolfgang__I installed compiz in xubuntu 13.10 and the only issue is I no longer can use workspaces.22:49
wolfgang__PLease help me get workspaces back22:49
wolfgang__I installed compiz in xubuntu 13.10 and the only issue is I no longer can use workspaces.22:53
wolfgang__PLease help me get workspaces back22:53
wolfgang__Is there any one here?22:55
Unit193Sure, but maybe nobody knows as compiz isn't really supported.22:56
wolfgang__Is there an equivilent to compiz I can use to make things cool that isnt buggy?22:57
Unit193 Well, compton isn't in the main repos or I'd recommend that.22:57
wolfgang__compton? I dont mind adding a repo as long as its safe.22:58
wolfgang__But Compiz is acutally causing quite a few issues22:59
wolfgang__I will be right back after a restart so I can remove compiz22:59
wolfgang__Im back23:02
wolfgang__Can you please help!? I guess compiz broke xubuntu, The top bar is gone as well as the dock at the bottom.23:05
wolfgang__How can I fix this?23:05
wolfgang__This windows just kind of opened auto maticly when I I started up23:05
wolfgang__Also a file manager windows23:06
wolfgang__And terminal23:06
wolfgang__But I cant open anything else23:06
wolfgang__What do I do?23:06
wolfgang__<Unit193> What do I do?23:07
wolfgang__Am i going to need to format my drive and reinstall xubuntu?23:08
wolfgang__I dont want to do that23:08
wolfgang__?23:09
wolfgang__Is any one here that could at least give me an idea?23:09
wolfgang__I cant open new windows.23:10
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wolfgang__WEll I am installing ubuntu desktop throught the terminal to go see if that will work23:13
wolfgang__If that works, then stuff might happen...23:13
Unit193You can clear out your ~/.config/xfce/ and ~/.cache/23:14
wolfgang__How?23:14
wolfgang__And will that fix it?23:14
wolfgang__So delete everything in /home/wolfgang/.config/xfce4/ ?23:16
wolfgang__unity193 ?23:17
Unit193That will delete your preferences for xfce applications, including the panels.23:17
wolfgang__ok23:17
Unit193!patience23:17
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/23:17
wolfgang__So now just restart?23:18
Unit193Did you remove ~/.cache/ ?23:18
wolfgang__yes23:18
Unit193Log out and back in.23:18
wolfgang__ok brb23:18
wolfgang__oh wait23:18
wolfgang__I have none of that, what is the terminal command for it?23:18
wolfgang__Things are really broken....23:19
Unit193They are hidden dirs, Ctrl+h to see them.23:20
wolfgang__Im talking about a log out command23:20
wolfgang__I already cleared though23:20
wolfgang__s23:20
wolfgang__I dont have much of a gui really available.23:21
Unit193xfce4-session-logout23:21
wolfgang__Thank you23:21
wolfgang__Thank you its all fixed, Now I know compiz is a terrible idea :)23:24
wolfgang__Thank you very much23:24
Myrttiwolfgang__: was there a specific reason you even ran it?23:24
wolfgang__Wobbley windows23:24
Myrttiright23:24
wolfgang__I love dem wobbley windows23:24
wolfgang__They are beautiful23:24
Myrttiif it had been true transparency, that can be solved by turning compositing on23:25
Myrttiand doesn't need compiz for that23:25
wolfgang__What?23:25
wolfgang__I dont need compiz for wobbley windows?23:25
Myrttiyou probably do23:25
wolfgang__Ok23:26
Myrttibut for true transparency you don't23:26
wolfgang__OK23:26
wolfgang__Well its all fixed now23:26
wolfgang__unity mentioned something about something called compton, will it give me cool settings like compiz?23:27
elfysome might not being called unity ;)23:28
elfythis is #xubuntu after all :)23:28
wolfgang__There was a guy named unity something23:29
wolfgang__He saved me23:29
wolfgang__So is there a software to make my os look all cool?23:30

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