[00:01] <xubuntu136> xubuntu is my favorite linux distro i always have it installed on my pc ! canonical looses its time with unity cause it sucks !
[01:29] <mikodo> Where can I find the logs from Nov 7/13's Xubuntu-devel meeting?
[01:30] <GridCube> irclogs.ubuntu.com for starters
[01:31] <mikodo> thx. I'll try there
[01:31] <GridCube> all other ubuntu services are down for the moment
[01:33] <mikodo> GridCube, Aah! I think I got it with the one you posted. Thx.
[01:50] <HiddenDjinn> rsync question: i have my sshd on a port other than 22, how do i tell it to connect to that port while copying over a shell?
[01:55] <Unit193> --port=PORT             specify double-colon alternate port number
[01:58] <David-A> HiddenDjinn: or explicit ssh command using -e 'ssh ...'
[01:58] <HiddenDjinn> Unit193, thanks
[01:59] <mikodo> Good to read on xubuntu-devel that Trusy is going to remain with x.org.
[02:00] <mikodo> Goodnight.
[05:03] <C4RR3> Hey everyone, I
[05:04] <C4RR3> have a problem with my laptop computer running xubuntu
[05:04] <C4RR3> I spilled wine on the keyboard and it keeps pressing enter
[05:04] <C4RR3> how do i disable through the settings the laptop keyboard so that it can ignore it while i use the
[05:04] <C4RR3> other keyboard I have?
[05:04] <C4RR3> Thanks in advance, it's really annoying as you can see. :)
[06:10] <mushy_> !help
[06:10] <mushy_> !patience long install
[06:11] <mushy_> is anyone alive at gmt -6?
[06:12] <pleia2> yes, but this is a support channel and you haven't asked a support question :)
[09:19] <blobba> Hello! i just downloaded xubuntu 13.10 iso and have some questions.
[09:19] <bekks> So ask them...
[09:20] <blobba> The computrer that im going to install has no cd/dvd. how do i get it on a flashdrive and boot from that?
[09:25] <bekks> !usb | blobba
[09:39] <blobba> im still having problems!
[09:40] <bekks> blobba: You still have to ask...
[09:40] <blobba> im on ubuntu 12.04 and installed usb-creator-gtk from synaptic
[09:40] <blobba> started the precces and got a segmenfault!
[09:40] <blobba> segmentfault
[09:41] <blobba> i erased my usbdrive with usb-creator-gtk
[09:41] <blobba> maybe i should format the drive in nautilus?
[09:41] <bekks> Use unetbootin instead.
[09:42] <blobba> from synaptic?
[09:42] <bekks> You dont need to format a drive whatsoever in nautilus.
[09:42] <bekks> blobba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Unetbootin-1
[09:44] <blobba> seems to be working! thanx!
[09:45] <blobba> this xubuntu is free from that abomination called unity right?
[09:47] <blobba> will most stuff thet works with regular ubuntu work with xubuntu?
[09:47] <blobba> if i follow a guide somewhere that is for regular ubuntu is it going to work?
[09:48] <knome> blobba, 1) there is no unity in xubuntu 2) most (pretty much all) stuff that works in ubuntu should work in xubuntu, but they might need a lot of other packages to be installed 3) yes
[09:48] <knome> or 3) yes, most probably
[09:49] <knome> xubuntu uses the same core as ubuntu
[09:49] <blobba> nice! this computer im installing it on is my HTPC so i only use XBMC and Google Chrome more or less...
[09:50] <blobba> does VDPAU work?
[09:51] <knome> i don't know by experience, but if it works with ubuntu, it should
[09:51] <blobba> ok thanx.
[09:52] <blobba> hmm, it seems the procces with unetbootin to creat my bootdrive froxe at 33%!?
[09:52] <blobba> froze
[10:20] <ur0pl> hi
[10:20] <ur0pl> i don't see the top toolbar
[10:20] <ur0pl> how do i get it again?
[10:21] <ur0pl> i tried restart lightdm , but that didn't fix it
[10:24] <well_laid_lawn> ur0pl:  is it in your autostart file?
[10:25] <ur0pl> i did something like alt-f4 and now it is gone
[10:25] <ur0pl> i tried logging out and back in, but it didn't fix it
[10:26] <ur0pl> okay
[10:27] <ur0pl> i just ran xfce4-panel in a screen session
[10:27] <ur0pl> so it is fixed
[10:27] <ur0pl> fuck
[10:27] <ur0pl> i'm just going to restart
[10:27] <knome> ur0pl, watch your language
[10:29] <ur0pl> i just did a restart
[10:30] <ur0pl> and it is still gone
[10:30] <ur0pl> what is my autostart file?
[10:31] <bekks> !autostart
[10:32] <ur0pl> there is no setting to auto start xfce4-panel
[10:51] <ur0pl> what i need to do is restore the default panel settings
[10:52] <elfy> ur0pl: I remember have the same issue for a while - I just added an item for it to Application Autostart
[10:53] <ur0pl> okay i fixed it
[10:53] <ur0pl> i had to delete some config files
[11:13] <xubuntu034> hello
[11:14] <nostromo> When I alter brightness, a popup-notification informs the desktop of the change. Some process has sent a dbus message to the Notification daemon. My question here is which pkg/process generates that popup notification? xfce4-power-man, acpid, or another?
[11:14] <xubuntu034> been looking for answers on how to properly get my nvidia drivers working with steam. Read thru many articles still no help
[11:18] <brainwash> xubuntu034: try #ubuntu-steam
[11:18] <xubuntu034> thanks
[11:27] <xubuntu034> hmmm there n ot much help there or they are all afk
[11:30] <brainwash> xubuntu034: do you have any specific question? if it's a general ubuntu driver issue, why not ask in #ubuntu :)
[11:31] <xubuntu034> been looking for answers on how to properly get my nvidia drivers working with steam. Read thru many articles still no help
[11:31] <brainwash> so what exactly is the problem?
[11:31] <xubuntu034> i am using xubuntu 13.04 with a nvidia 660ti if that helps
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !nvidia|xubuntu034, ask in the #general channel for my eyes on maybe
[11:31] <xubuntu034> it seem the opengl is not activating
[11:33] <xubuntu034> i have the driver install and working but it needs to run the 32 bit open gl for steam
[11:33] <Junka> i dont get much battery life on my laptop
[11:33] <Junka> any suggestions?
[11:36] <xubuntu034> http://i.imgur.com/m22Ja0m.jpg this is the error I recieve
[11:39] <brainwash> xubuntu034: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/248
[11:40] <xubuntu034> wierd that I should have this isse with a newer 660ti
[11:41] <brainwash> which driver version?
[11:41] <brainwash> should be 310 or newer I assume
[11:43] <xubuntu034> 313.30
[11:46] <Poisoned_Dragon> Wait... is that a GT660?
[11:47] <xubuntu034> no its a GeForce GTX 660 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
[11:48] <Poisoned_Dragon> ok, GTX.
[11:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> Point is, how are you only using 313.30, which I've never heard of, on a GTX660, when I'm using 319 on a Geforce 8 series card?
[11:49] <xubuntu034> good question
[11:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> Also, I came in late. What was your original problem?
[11:50] <xubuntu034> http://i.imgur.com/m22Ja0m.jpg this is the error I recieve
[11:52] <Poisoned_Dragon> Ooooooooh... You're using Steam.
[11:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> Isn't a prerequisite of steam to have a certain beta driver or better installed? 319 should be mature enough to warrant an update.
[11:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> After all, your GPU is more than capable.
[11:54] <xubuntu034> looking at the nvidia page for my card it seems that the suggested drivers by the sofware update are a bit old
[11:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> If I can run 319, you can run circles with 319.
[11:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> Additional Drivers suggested 313.10?
[11:54] <xubuntu034> yea..
[11:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm... What version of Xubuntu are you on?
[11:55] <xubuntu034> 13.04
[11:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, I was using 309 on 13.04. I'm on 13.10 now.
[11:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> 13.10 suggested 319 for me.
[11:58] <xubuntu034> maybe i dont have the correct things selected ni my sofware update
[11:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> I don't think there's much to customize with the Additional Drivers component.
[11:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> Short of telling you to try 13.10, I dunno what to suggest.
[12:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> I'm lucky my setup works now. XD
[12:00] <xubuntu034> wonder why it is suggesting such old drivers
[12:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> And I had to tweak it, quite a bit, to get video playback, and other things, to stop tearing.
[12:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> It might be an xorg version thing.
[12:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> I probably would have been on 313.30 if I had not upgraded the distro.
[12:03] <xubuntu034> so maybe upto 13.10
[12:03] <xubuntu034> does that mean a full reinstall or can i keep what i have
[12:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> Um... Well, there is a procedure to upgrade without doing a clean install. But, I find it best to do it clean
[12:06] <xubuntu034> ok im off to go do more testing
[12:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> I tried the other way and had some hiccups. Especially with upgrading to the next version of Nvidia drivers. I didn't even know there was a newer driver until I saw it install.
[12:07] <xubuntu034> thanks for your help
[12:30] <stephen_sti6999> hello! I have xubuntu 13.10 and have added cinnamon 2.0 so I can have two light DT to use, but menus have doubled up menu entrys like bluetooth etc, so what would be the best clean up method?
[12:30] <cfhowlett> stephen_sti6999, sudo apt-get purge packageyoudon'twant
[12:31] <stephen_sti6999> thank you
[13:12] <irgendwer4711> hi, how to increase the value for the margin of window?
[13:13] <irgendwer4711> very difficult to hit the resize field at corner
[13:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> That's usually based on the theme you use. Either edit the theme file, or just use another theme.
[13:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh... Window Theme
[13:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> Not appearance theme
[13:16] <irgendwer4711> it there a gui for that task?
[13:16] <TheSheep> irgendwer4711: but there is no need to hit the border
[13:16] <TheSheep> irgendwer4711: just hold down alt and drag with the right mouse button
[13:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh... Right. There are other ways to resize.
[13:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, even I didn't know that. :)
[13:17] <irgendwer4711> ok thats for linux users, I very often use windows ;-)
[13:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> Learn something new.
[13:17] <irgendwer4711> but I have windows at work, would be nice if my pc could behave like it
[13:18] <irgendwer4711> where to edit this value?
[13:19] <irgendwer4711> I am using greybird
[13:20] <TheSheep> editing windows themes is quite an advanced topic
[13:21] <TheSheep> best just choose a theme that has larger border
[13:22] <TheSheep> http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201008/page04.html
[13:22] <TheSheep> here is a blog post about customizing the themes
[13:26] <Junka> gmusicbrowser is the volume indicator right? if I remove it and install rhythmbox will rhythmbox take it's place on the indicator?
[13:28] <irgendwer4711> I read, I have to change "right_width"
[13:31] <irgendwer4711> but I dont know which folter. am I using xfwm4 oder xfce-notify?
[13:32] <Poisoned_Dragon> the window manager is xfwm4
[13:32] <irgendwer4711> the is no theme file in this folder
[13:35] <irgendwer4711> oh, I found out that a image sized the border
[13:35] <Poisoned_Dragon> You really should just choose another theme from Settings Manager; Window Manager.
[13:35] <irgendwer4711> have to
[13:36] <TheSheep> also, instead of modifying a theme in place, first copy it to your ~/.themes directory, so that upgrades won't overwrite your changes
[13:37] <irgendwer4711> kokodi seems to be good.
[13:38] <irgendwer4711> ok that was an unimportand task, now the importand one. how to setup a 4k-hdd right.
[13:38] <irgendwer4711> it seems to be that my hdd runs in 512bytes mode
[13:40] <irgendwer4711> any hardware expert here today? :-D
[13:43] <TheSheep> irgendwer4711: there is always ##hardware
[13:43] <irgendwer4711> its a linux thing
[13:44] <irgendwer4711> how to setup a good partition for 4k use
[13:45] <TheSheep> I have no idea what 4k is, so can't help you
[13:45] <irgendwer4711> old hdd have 512 byte per sector, the new one use 4096
[13:47] <TheSheep> I don't think you need to setup anything specially for that
[13:48] <irgendwer4711> there are rules for the alignment auf partitions
[13:48] <TheSheep> sure, but gparted has an option to do it automatically
[13:49] <TheSheep> (gparted is the partition editor that the installer uses)
[13:49] <irgendwer4711> I have it running. this was my choice
[13:52] <irgendwer4711> ok, i have to logout for this. bye
[15:53] <akis63> 2 days ago i faced a 'resolved problem' issue after last chromium update (Version 30.0.1599.114 Ubuntu 12.04 (30.0.1599.114-0ubuntu0.12.04.3). Using Mozilla i am facing the same problems. I asked my ISP if there is any line's problem and they answered negativily. I searched google and i saw that other users are facing similar problems (http://askubuntu.com/questions/371791/how-do-i-address-chromium-slowdown-following-update). i read about the
[15:53] <akis63> open DNS servers and many similar things and although i tried them nothing changed. any similar expirience?
[16:34] <HiddenDjinn> why would mail servers on the web refuse to speak to a postfix instance?
[16:59] <xubuntu123> Hello, got one question. I have some difficulties with installing xubuntu on Acer AOA 150 ZG5 via USB. I tried unetbootin, but it seems it isn't working as the other laptot (Dell Latitude) do. So I decided to try PXE boot. The only question stands:
[16:59] <xubuntu123> where would I get tfptboot files
[16:59] <holstein> xubuntu123: if the machine boots USB, it'll act just like a cd rom on boot with unetbootin
[16:59] <holstein> xubuntu123: what is the issue you encounter?
[17:00] <holstein> xubuntu123: you would get the files where you host them
[17:00] <xubuntu123> It halted just after the line: SYSLINUX <versio> <copyright> and blinking carriage underneath that line.
[17:00] <xubuntu123> I suppose it's grub(?) issue, that can't load graphical section which is blue box
[17:00] <holstein> xubuntu123: have you tried safe graphics? have you tried another usb stick?
[17:01] <holstein> !nomodeset
[17:01] <xubuntu123> holstein: the very same usb stick works fine on two other computers
[17:01] <holstein> xubuntu123: and nomodeset?
[17:02] <xubuntu123> I did not make any modification to usb stick after the software did. I lack knowledge frankly about modyfing the files
[17:03] <holstein> xubuntu123: try nomodeset, please.. its not a way of editing the stick at all.. assuming that the stick is "good", and the system boots usb, and the usb and other hardware function properly, what could be going on is, the grahpics driver is unable to load the desktop on that particular hardware
[17:04] <holstein> xubuntu123: using the nomodeset option from the live USB is an easy way to test if this is the case or not..
[17:04] <xubuntu123> OK, will get some lecture to set it.
[17:07] <xubuntu123> I believe, that the unetbootin menu is located in isolinux directory, there is isolinux.cfg file having a specific line: ui gfxboot bootlogo
[17:08] <holstein> xubuntu123: dont "believe"... load the specific grub menu. if unetbootin is a problem, dont use it.. i use drivedroid on my android phone. there are other USB stick iso creators
[17:09] <holstein> xubuntu123: i seem to remember being able to easily edit these at boot time, even using unetbootin.. dont bother with making a persistent change to the iso, or USB stick.. just edit and test the one time
[17:10] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1652925.html suggests - I create LiveUSBs with UNetbootin and then go to the syslinux.cfg file and remove quiet splash and add in whatever is relevant for my machine.
[17:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh yeah, when the boot menu is displayed you can press tab over the boot option you want and add options.
[17:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> Some menus are a little different and have you press e. ymmv
[17:16] <holstein> Poisoned_Dragon: what do you do for unetbootin specifically?
[17:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> Sadly, I haven't used it in a while. Does it tell you at the menu what to press to edit commands?
[17:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> These days, I use dd when I know the iso is hybrid.
[17:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> unetbootin gives me issues on some distros.
[17:18] <holstein> xubuntu123: thats very true.. the iso are dd friendly
[18:05] <xubuntu182> Hi
[18:06] <Unit193> Bye.
[18:32] <gdos> how do i *HIDE* users on the login screen? I have created a shell account for a user but do not want that user to be displayed on the login screen. I tried putting the users name in '/etc/lxdm/users.conf' but still won't hide the user.
[18:33] <gdos> er, that should be '/etc/lightdm/users.conf'
[18:35] <well_laid_lawn> gdos:  see if this helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Boot_Install_Login#Changing_LightDM_Settings
[19:01] <Monkeytoe> question, I have my power settings under ac (actions) set to never, and under monitor (actions) set to never... I also have the screensaver disabled but my xubuntu machine still goes to a black screen like every 10 minutes if I am not doing something... how can I disable this?
[19:05] <well_laid_lawn> xset -dpms
[19:07] <bekks> Monkeytoe: Then check the powersavings of your display, too.
[19:10] <Unit193> And systemd, see if that's taking over.
[19:34] <mhd> I have a problem with Mypaint causing a broken pipe crash in the X server
[20:16] <irgendwer4711> hi, me again :-)
[20:20] <irgendwer4711> I noticed that the border of windows are extend into invisible area outside of screen
[20:21] <irgendwer4711> window icon is parted too
[22:13] <sharpnel> 1
[22:24] <Rory> sharpnel: That's numberwang
[22:24] <sharpnel> i am banned for i dont know what reason everywhere
[22:25] <sharpnel> heres the only channel i can talk it seems
[22:25] <sharpnel> :(
[22:25] <Rory> sharpnel: Are you banned in #ubuntu? You can /join #ubuntu-ops and find out the reason for your ban
[22:26] <sharpnel> i run /mode #ubuntu b
[22:26] <sharpnel> and i dont have a ban but i still cant talk there
[22:26] <sharpnel> :(
[22:26] <Rory> sharpnel: What happens when you try?
[22:26] <Rory> I saw your "1" in #ubuntu
[22:27] <sharpnel> :Cannot send to channel
[22:27] <sharpnel> it shows me this
[22:27] <sharpnel> :(
[22:27] <Rory> join #ubuntu-ops maybe you're muted?
[22:28] <Unit193> sharpnel: He said he could see you.  If you think you are still having problems #ubuntu-ops is the place to get help.
[22:28] <sharpnel> thnx guys ill try
[22:49] <wolfgang__> I installed compiz in xubuntu 13.10 and the only issue is I no longer can use workspaces.
[22:49] <wolfgang__> PLease help me get workspaces back
[22:53] <wolfgang__> I installed compiz in xubuntu 13.10 and the only issue is I no longer can use workspaces.
[22:53] <wolfgang__> PLease help me get workspaces back
[22:55] <wolfgang__> Is there any one here?
[22:56] <Unit193> Sure, but maybe nobody knows as compiz isn't really supported.
[22:57] <wolfgang__> Is there an equivilent to compiz I can use to make things cool that isnt buggy?
[22:57] <Unit193>  Well, compton isn't in the main repos or I'd recommend that.
[22:58] <wolfgang__> compton? I dont mind adding a repo as long as its safe.
[22:59] <wolfgang__> But Compiz is acutally causing quite a few issues
[22:59] <wolfgang__> I will be right back after a restart so I can remove compiz
[23:02] <wolfgang__> Im back
[23:05] <wolfgang__> Can you please help!? I guess compiz broke xubuntu, The top bar is gone as well as the dock at the bottom.
[23:05] <wolfgang__> How can I fix this?
[23:05] <wolfgang__> This windows just kind of opened auto maticly when I I started up
[23:06] <wolfgang__> Also a file manager windows
[23:06] <wolfgang__> And terminal
[23:06] <wolfgang__> But I cant open anything else
[23:06] <wolfgang__> What do I do?
 What do I do?
[23:08] <wolfgang__> Am i going to need to format my drive and reinstall xubuntu?
[23:08] <wolfgang__> I dont want to do that
[23:09] <wolfgang__> ?
[23:09] <wolfgang__> Is any one here that could at least give me an idea?
[23:10] <wolfgang__> I cant open new windows.
[23:13] <wolfgang__> WEll I am installing ubuntu desktop throught the terminal to go see if that will work
[23:13] <wolfgang__> If that works, then stuff might happen...
[23:14] <Unit193> You can clear out your ~/.config/xfce/ and ~/.cache/
[23:14] <wolfgang__> How?
[23:14] <wolfgang__> And will that fix it?
[23:16] <wolfgang__> So delete everything in /home/wolfgang/.config/xfce4/ ?
[23:17] <wolfgang__> unity193 ?
[23:17] <Unit193> That will delete your preferences for xfce applications, including the panels.
[23:17] <wolfgang__> ok
[23:17] <Unit193> !patience
[23:18] <wolfgang__> So now just restart?
[23:18] <Unit193> Did you remove ~/.cache/ ?
[23:18] <wolfgang__> yes
[23:18] <Unit193> Log out and back in.
[23:18] <wolfgang__> ok brb
[23:18] <wolfgang__> oh wait
[23:18] <wolfgang__> I have none of that, what is the terminal command for it?
[23:19] <wolfgang__> Things are really broken....
[23:20] <Unit193> They are hidden dirs, Ctrl+h to see them.
[23:20] <wolfgang__> Im talking about a log out command
[23:20] <wolfgang__> I already cleared though
[23:20] <wolfgang__> s
[23:21] <wolfgang__> I dont have much of a gui really available.
[23:21] <Unit193> xfce4-session-logout
[23:21] <wolfgang__> Thank you
[23:24] <wolfgang__> Thank you its all fixed, Now I know compiz is a terrible idea :)
[23:24] <wolfgang__> Thank you very much
[23:24] <Myrtti> wolfgang__: was there a specific reason you even ran it?
[23:24] <wolfgang__> Wobbley windows
[23:24] <Myrtti> right
[23:24] <wolfgang__> I love dem wobbley windows
[23:24] <wolfgang__> They are beautiful
[23:25] <Myrtti> if it had been true transparency, that can be solved by turning compositing on
[23:25] <Myrtti> and doesn't need compiz for that
[23:25] <wolfgang__> What?
[23:25] <wolfgang__> I dont need compiz for wobbley windows?
[23:25] <Myrtti> you probably do
[23:26] <wolfgang__> Ok
[23:26] <Myrtti> but for true transparency you don't
[23:26] <wolfgang__> OK
[23:26] <wolfgang__> Well its all fixed now
[23:27] <wolfgang__> unity mentioned something about something called compton, will it give me cool settings like compiz?
[23:28] <elfy> some might not being called unity ;)
[23:28] <elfy> this is #xubuntu after all :)
[23:29] <wolfgang__> There was a guy named unity something
[23:29] <wolfgang__> He saved me
[23:30] <wolfgang__> So is there a software to make my os look all cool?