[15:28] <andrzejr> ali1234, are you testing xfce4-places-plugin on xubuntu 13.10 with gtk3 panel?
[15:29] <ali1234> yes
[15:29] <andrzejr> in my system this plugin (when installed from repo) doesn't show up
[15:29] <ali1234> did i use all gtk3 functions?
[15:29] <ali1234> oops...
[15:29] <andrzejr> afair I installed xfce4-panel into /usr
[15:30] <ali1234> i installed everything in /usr/local
[15:30] <andrzejr> I'm talking about the plugin from the repo, it is installed but it is not visible, even though panel was installed in /usr, not /usr/local
[15:31] <ali1234> not visible in the "add new items"?
[15:32] <ali1234> i have places, panel, indicators, libxfce4ui all in /usr/local
[15:33] <ali1234> mine is linked against libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[15:33] <ali1234> places, that is
[15:34] <ali1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6394360/
[16:16] <andrzejr> ali1234, plugins from the repo are installed in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins, the ones installed from source in /usr/lib/xfce/panel/plugins
[16:17] <ali1234> sounds about right
[16:17] <ali1234> it's all multiarch now
[16:21] <ochosi> jjfrv8: very cool, will take a look at that in a jiffy
[16:28] <brainwash> ochosi: bug 1249781
[16:28] <brainwash> any thoughts?
[16:29] <ochosi> brainwash: yeah, that's the policy change in logind
[16:29] <brainwash> read the comments
[16:29] <brainwash> :P
[16:29] <brainwash> we triggered the reboot policy change, but it's a general issue
[16:30] <ochosi> yeah
[16:30] <ochosi> it has to be fixed differently
[16:30] <ochosi> before not even the active user could reboot/hibernate/shutdown in lightdm
[16:30] <ochosi> so lightdm could fix it
[16:30] <ochosi> or we could try to tackle that in the greeter
[16:31] <brainwash> yeah, a strange issue which did not get address yet
[16:31] <brainwash> addressed
[16:32] <ochosi> yup, we wouldn't have had an uploader for the fix anyway
[16:32] <ochosi> but we could link that bug to our todo-list for 14.04
[16:33] <brainwash> I assume the reporter is talking about the unity greeter with the session indicator
[16:33] <brainwash> so the systemd policy set strikes again
[16:33] <brainwash> aka LP
[16:34] <brainwash> but right, it should be discussed before the 14.04 release
[16:38] <ochosi> well i'm not sure whether logind can actually take care of this
[16:38] <ochosi> ideally it could, would be nicer than having to check in the greeter...
[16:39] <brainwash> yes
[16:39] <ochosi> cause lightdm already asks logind for the policy
[16:39] <ochosi> so that's the best way i guess
[16:41] <brainwash> btw you should apply to become a package uploader :P
[16:44] <ochosi> nah, not really
[16:44] <ochosi> already got enough work
[16:44] <ochosi> i think then i wouldn't have time to do artwork properly anymore
[16:44] <ochosi> and care about the other projects i'm involved in
[16:45] <ochosi> as soon as i don't enjoy taking care of the artwork anymore or someone else really really wants to do it (and is good at it), i don't think i'll give it up for packaging
[16:48] <brainwash> I don't like packaging either
[16:49] <brainwash> but that's due to my lack of experience I think
[16:54] <elfy> imagine how I feel, I rarely have the slightest idea what you're all rabbiting on about ;)
[16:55] <ochosi> :)
[16:56] <ochosi> brainwash: it's not that i really dislike packaging, i just have too many other duties i don't wanna let down
[16:57] <brainwash> ochosi: you don't have to watch the progress bar if a package gets built.. or refresh the PPA site every 5sec to see if everything is done :P
[16:59] <brainwash> bug 1227637 :(
[17:03] <brainwash> my list of bug reports which I've bookmarked during the development phase just won't get smaller
[17:05] <brainwash> oh, looks like I can remove this one here
[17:05] <brainwash> bug 1221809
[18:12] <ochosi> pleia2: ping
[19:40] <Noskcaj> Should xubuntu-bugs be subscribed to whiskermenu? it's at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin
[19:44] <GridCube> are we shipping it already?
[19:46] <elfy> GridCube: nope
[19:46] <GridCube> then no
[19:46]  * GridCube opinions
[19:46] <Noskcaj> GridCube, no, but most of the xfce stuff is on the xubuntu-bugs list
[19:47] <skellat> Subscribed
[19:47] <Noskcaj> And we should review whether it's worth including on the cd
[19:47] <ochosi> well bugs are "good to know" about
[19:47] <GridCube> true
[19:47] <elfy> Noskcaj: it's on the roadmap list for discussion
[19:47] <GridCube> well, you should known better
[19:48] <GridCube> talking about bugs, Bug #1248962 
[19:48] <GridCube> P: it bothers me
[19:50] <brainwash> report it upstream :)
[22:27] <slickymaster> good night all
[23:35] <ochosi> GridCube: sorry, didn't have time to look at it before, but replied now
[23:35] <GridCube> ochosi, its alright
[23:38] <GridCube> ochosi, :( thats sad
[23:39] <ochosi> i know