[00:35] ::workspace-bugs:: [1206176] Powerdevil does not start, linking problem? @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206176 (by aydin demircioglu) [00:39] Riddell: http://blog.steve.org.uk/so_i_have_a_new_project.html [00:42] apachelogger: ping [00:42] nice, I think we went down to that end of town to see where the Queen sleeps when she hangs out in Edinburgh [00:43] apachelogger: I think I'm on the right repo: git://anongit.kde.org/libqapt [00:43] manchicken: yes [00:44] I'm getting worried about breaking compatibility with some of my changes. I started wrapping some tests around my changes last night. [00:45] I've never done tests in Qt land before, so I'm a bit worried about the curve, but it can't be terribly difficult. [00:47] manchicken: I think there is quite some documentation on qtest, possible techbase.kde.org also has some stuff [00:47] generally speaking we are all terrible at ensure proper test coverage xD [00:47] Yeah, that's what I've been using. [00:47] I spent most of last night just getting the tests into cmake. [00:47] I suck with cmake. [00:48] Well, some coverage is better than no coverage. [00:48] just get some random kde thing and look at how it's done [00:48] kdelibs usually is the goto place [00:48] I got the cmake stuff to work. [00:48] groovy [00:49] I finally found out that even though I put my tests in the t directory and defined it in the CMakeLists.txt, you have to put the test itself into the top level if you want to use `make test` [00:49] Now I just need to get the tests coded :) [00:50] The problem I was having with libqapt previously is that if you were making changes in a file that wasn't /etc/apt/sources.list, it wiped your sources.list and still failed to delete the old file. [00:51] So the solution I came up with is to modify the SourcesList class to recognize that there are mulitiple files. Instead of just holding a list of entries, it's holding a QHash of items keyed by the filename. [00:51] Sorry, QHash [00:57] This means I'm creating a second SourcesList::entries() function which takes the argument of the filename. [00:57] mh [00:57] to be honest, that sounds like a bug in qapt [00:57] That's what I'm modifying :) [00:57] right [00:57] I think the bug is that it's actually not handing different files very well. [00:58] By grouping the entries into lists by file name I hope to fix that. [01:08] debfx: It's not. [01:15] hi. someone using KDE Connect ? [01:22] The android app? [01:25] yup [01:26] android app + kde app :) [02:02] hey valorie [02:10] hi ahoneybun [02:10] whats up [02:10] not a whole lot [02:11] I'm thinking of trying to reply to the kubuntuguide folks with more of an idea of what we'd like to do [02:11] or have them do [02:11] haven't really had a chance to read over their entire guide [02:11] have you? [02:11] I have not but the owner seems a bit of a smart... [02:12] oh well, so am I [02:12] lol [02:12] just not here [02:12] on and on with the google translate [02:13] right [02:13] it's easy [02:13] I don't blame him for using it [02:13] we just can't use that [02:13] it's not nearly good enough [02:13] I know but he seems confident in it [02:14] btw I got a HTC One [02:14] ah, my oldest son has that [02:14] how do you like it? [02:14] he loves it; I found the edge touch to be really confusing [02:15] love it [02:16] very nice camera, fast [02:16] I kinda like HTC Sense [02:19] anyway I'm still trying to get the kubuntuguide guys to understand what we want do [02:20] it would be nice if first we figured out what we DO want to do, right? [02:20] I mean, what do we want to do? [02:20] use their wiki for our docs? [02:21] because to me, that would be ideal, IF they install the translate plugin [02:21] and help us get translators [02:21] that would be the best way [02:22] so I'll write again tonight and propose that, and ask right out clearly how they feel about that [02:22] agreed [02:22] no offense, but your first email to them was a bit terse [02:22] I know [02:23] americans might not mind, but most europeans are a bit more formal [02:23] not the best at being formal and getting a point across [02:23] words of politeness are useful [02:24] you have to realize that they have been doing their own thing for quite awhile [02:24] without a peep from us [02:24] so they might be feeling a bit neglected [02:25] yea [02:26] I can understand that [02:30] * ahoneybun needs to make a to-do list for things about the docs [02:30] other then trello [02:31] most of the new trello cards I can fix [02:31] can't [02:35] well, that should be fixed [02:35] perhaps you need more permissions or something [02:35] trello is good, and we should use it like everyone else does [02:35] also, this way we can get devels, perhaps, to take a look-see [02:36] I do need more permission to access the site, I *think* Riddell gave me something but it did not work/I did not save it [02:37] he's not around this weekend I think [02:37] ping him next week [02:38] ok I just left comments on the trello page [02:44] goodo [02:47] AC4 is pretty good [02:49] ac4? [02:49] assassins creed 4 [02:49] off-topic [02:52] ok, I've heard it's good [02:52] * valorie is not a game player [02:52] yea, kinda want to get battlefield 4 [02:54] I can control my tv with my one [04:19] Mamarok: no I did not mod him, that apparently is the ubuntu-users list doing that to him, and others over some ot chatter concerning the fixubuntu kerfluffle [04:24] he's really a jerk [04:24] and IMO should have been modded long ago [04:24] we'll lose subscribers otherwise [04:26] claydoh: ^^^ [04:26] valorie: subscribers? Not many at all, and even fewer post at all. [04:26] no wonder [04:26] seriously [04:26] I know mail lists are dying all over the place, but that guy is ridiculous [04:26] * mamarley recently quit two tech groups due to various jerks on the Internet :( [04:26] indeed [04:27] no, it has never been highly subscribed, not since the KDE3 days [04:27] there are only 24 hours in the day, and who wants to spend even a moment reading drivle like that? [04:27] still, people google and find mail list posts [04:27] I find useful stuff often [04:29] I am slightly biased, being a forum person :) but I have in the past suggested closing the list. [04:29] however that would look very bad [04:29] claydoh: Well it was an annoying personality that caused me to unsubscribe back in the KDE3 days. [04:30] * claydoh is probably too laid back over such things [04:30] they are still useful to people on slow connections [04:32] And to people who find forums hopeless. [04:33] sure [04:33] and IRC unknown [04:33] irc uber alles [04:33] * claydoh agrees with both ScottK and valorie [04:34] anyway, if this jerk isn't modded yet, after today he certainly should be [04:34] he's basically daring the owners to do it [04:34] flagrantly [04:35] if any help is needed on the list, I'm an experienced LO [04:36] and listadmin is my good friend [04:36] back kinda [04:38] valorie: another person would be good, it is *not* a lot of work, actually. Nearly none tbh. [04:39] indeed [04:39] my own workload just gets in the way of the important things lol ;) [04:39] if you want me, shoot me the password and i'll add it to listadmin [04:40] valorie@kde.org [04:40] done [04:40] * ahoneybun just got in here [04:40] ahoneybun: are you on kubuntu-users list? [04:40] that's what we have been discussing [04:40] just devel I think [04:41] that's unfortunate [04:41] oh [04:41] all the devels who have the time should be on that list to lend their expertise [04:41] and lure new devels into packaging, helping with the docs, etc. [04:42] I would have asked for vols there, but there has been such a shitstorm about how to properly set up an HD [04:42] I didn't dare [04:42] I'm on it [04:43] cool [04:43] I've lured two guys here recently, but then they both disappeared [04:44] you have to just keep doing it until a few stick [04:44] http://mylinuxexplore.blogspot.com/2013/11/ubuntu-1310-saucy-salamander-review-and.html [04:45] valorie: what about listadmin? [04:46] valorie: I really nned to get into packaging, at least the easy stuff. I manage to keep kmymoney up to date in my ppa, but constantly forget what I am doing [04:46] time management is not my strong area [04:47] you need kmytime [04:47] valorie: seems I can log into admin-kubuntu.org [04:47] lol [04:47] valorie: lol [04:47] nothing I can do I think [04:48] http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2011/09/are-you-listowner-try-listadmin-cli.html [04:48] No, I need to stay away from google+, youtube, and other distractions. [04:48] but that is for listowners [04:48] I'm not an admin on the website, and don't want to be [04:49] my webby skillz are way rusty [04:49] * ahoneybun enjoys Eminem - Rap God [04:49] and then there is the whole adroid rom thing I *must* pay attention to :( [04:49] I can do some HTML CSS things [04:49] * ahoneybun is into roms [04:49] I have websites [04:49] they are just rusting into oblivion [04:49] I can log into www-admin.kubuntu.org [04:50] I've never done a thing to my phone [04:50] but change anything [04:50] not rooted it, or anything [04:50] nothing so far to my HTC One [04:50] and it sucks [04:50] oh well [04:50] I want to unlock the bootloader and root it [04:50] * claydoh runs a modded One rom on his DNA [04:51] valorie: I think I need to use the default KDE browser [04:51] porting ubuntu touch to it is way over my head/time availability [04:52] claydoh: yea that would be a bit of work maybe [04:52] me too [04:53] one of these days aaron will get the vivaldi out, and i'll buy one of those [04:53] any Kubuntu.org admins in here? [04:54] europe is asleep [04:55] yea [04:56] * ahoneybun thinks maybe he needs filezilla for website mananging [04:57] fssh maybe? [04:57] windows right now [04:57] but [04:57] there are windows programs or my phone [04:57] I used ssh in windows [04:57] idk I'll just wait [04:58] but that's been many years ago [05:01] ok, just ran listadmin, and it went through like a top, clay [05:06] greetings [05:07] ahoneybun: I'd like you to meet leif, who has some doc and translation experience, and would like to help out [05:08] leif, meet ahoneybun (aaron) who heads up our doc team [05:08] cool just woke up [05:12] ahh coffe [05:22] https://web.archive.org/web/20060106235729/http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-commitment.php [05:28] ScottK: pm [05:29] that makes me sorta sad [05:29] otoh, time moves on [05:57] good coffe [07:20] ahhh [07:46] Good morning. [07:47] morning [07:47] Hey leif_, how are you? [07:48] good real good [07:50] leif_: Ah, nice. How so? If I may ask? [07:50] studien hard and prowling some dating sites [07:50] lol [09:15] buenos dias amigos [09:15] Hi, can somebody tell me the status of bugreport #1071453 (bugs.lunchpad.net) for ubuntu 12.04.3 precise? [09:15] bug 1071453 [09:15] bug 1071453 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu Precise) "Dolphin doesn't store samba share password" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071453 [09:16] High,In progress [09:17] Last post is 6 months ago. I would be a voluntary tester. [09:18] " #16 [09:18] Quantal and Raring already have the fix, precise package still needs testing. Any takers? [09:18] " [09:18] Yes. I can test it. [09:18] Morning Riddell, parad1se_. How are you both? [09:19] parad1se_: hmm his precise update seems to have disappeared [09:19] I'll see if I can find it again [09:20] lordievader: life's good here in the kde barcelona office, nobody else is in so I can play music as loud as I want [09:21] lordievader: No. Iam doing a new request for testing. [09:21] Riddell: That would be perfect! Thanks in advance. [09:22] parad1se_: Testing can be fun, right? [09:22] Riddell: Nice :) [09:22] lordievader: I hope so. ^^ My first test for linux ever. :) [09:23] parad1se_: Do you happen to be in the Kubuntu Testers Team? [09:25] Yes sure. Do I have do participate in some meetings or something? Or just email contact? [09:28] parad1se_: I was actually asking if you where a member. However read this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTesters :) [09:39] lordievader: Thanks. :-) I will create a launchpad account and add my mail to the mailling list. [09:41] parad1se_: compiling now in [09:41] ppa:jr [09:41] https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=precise [09:42] Riddell: parad1se_ wants to become part of the Kubuntu Testers Team ;) [09:47] lovely [09:47] hang around in here is the main thing [09:47] and I can work out how to add to !testers [09:49] you do !testers-#kubuntu-devel is .... [09:49] (or in /msg, or get me to do it for you) [09:51] parad1se_: are you likely to hang around in here? [10:16] jussi: did you get the new invoice? [10:17] "Ralph Janke (txwikinger) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team until 2014-11-13" yay txwikinger still loves us! [10:30] Riddell: Perfect! I can test the new build (kde-runtime) later at home. Here I just got a CentOS ;) I will give then my feedback. [10:30] Riddell: Yes, Iam enjoying to hang around here. I think I will stay. :) [10:31] parad1se_: :D [10:40] back [10:43] Welcome back, leif_ [10:45] thanks [11:12] time to studie some c [11:17] hm, people volunteering for testing … what's the motivation? [11:18] (don't get me wrong, it's good people are willing to do it) [11:19] sorry what [11:21] that was probably a question for tsimpson or parad1se_ not you ;-) [11:23] ok [11:25] I suppose it's a good way to get involved === slacker_1l is now known as slacker_nl [11:33] yofel: I am going to migrate kf5 to trusty this week [11:34] go ahead, I enabled runtime, but qt5 failed IIRC, not sure what the problem was [11:35] yofel: built fine meanwhile [11:35] yay [11:53] apachelogger: migrate in neon5? [11:55] yeah [12:05] valorie: ahoneybun: did you guys get what you wanted done on websites done? [12:10] anyone have an idea if there is some sort of format for the selections file that synaptic and muon generate? === shadeslayer changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.11.80 WIP notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | Shirts! https://holvi.com/shop/Kubuntu/ [12:15] guys are there any plans to add KDEConnect 4..1 [12:19] Riddell: ^^ [12:20] soee: Riddell is handling the SRU for 0.4.1 [12:21] it's on my todo list [12:21] I wonder where it got to [12:21] back to the book [12:22] 0.4 is in saucy unapproved queue [12:22] I'll get on 0.4.1 shortly [12:23] Mirv: maybe you should be in on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-qt5-versions-in-ubuntu ? [12:28] hello Riddell [12:28] there is a problem with kde [12:29] on the daily of today [12:29] doesn't start kde for me [12:29] manually works [12:30] with startx [12:31] but on the installer doesn't work [12:36] cortexA9: trusty daily image? [12:37] Riddell: makes sense [12:39] thanks, added myself [12:44] Riddell: yeah [12:51] Riddell: when 4.12 beta1 is available on the daily ? [13:20] time for a break [13:23] gues any one is not around [13:59] leif_: how can we help you? [14:03] afternooon [14:05] is a new wana be developer [14:06] leif_: ooh excellent :) [14:07] been talking whit one of the other guys for a couple of days [14:08] leif_: I've a simple task if you're up for helping and running saucy [14:09] new owncloud needs testing, bug 1245593 [14:09] bug 1245593 in owncloud (Ubuntu Raring) "Backport updates to 5.0.12" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245593 [14:11] i run 13,10 [14:11] leif_: yes that's the one, are you able to test that owncloud update? [14:11] just install owncloud and connect with your web browser and set up an account [14:11] gonna instal install it [14:11] then upgrade to the package in -proposed [14:12] cool thanks [14:14] Riddell: btw we also need help with 4.11.80 [14:16] shadeslayer: tell it to leif_ :) [14:16] leif_: ^^ [14:16] yeah === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [14:17] leif_: https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas [14:18] need that cloud set up first [14:27] * shadeslayer waves fist at lintian [14:27] http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.80_trusty.html is all orange/blue [14:30] red :P === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [14:42] leif_: owncloud update worked for me but with the "upgrading to 5.0.12" message showing three times, how did you get on? [14:52] strange [14:52] uh oh [14:52] cant figure out my sever adress [14:52] hah [14:52] leif_: is it your local machine? [14:53] trying to get the client app up and running [14:53] Riddell: bugs mentioned in the git log http://pastebin.kde.org/ppvbwxswe [14:53] lovely shadeslayer [14:53] Riddell: though alot more are fixed [14:55] shadeslayer: no new features presumably? [14:55] hmmm [14:57] Riddell: not that I can see [14:57] Riddell: also, remember, don't bump the so version on the package? [14:57] shadeslayer: yep [14:57] cool [15:09] ok this is beond my skills [15:09] leif_: what's up? [15:09] cant conect to the own cloud [15:10] leif_: throught a web browser? [15:10] leif_: through a web browser? [15:10] just getting back to the standard home page each time i long in [15:10] bah [15:11] leif_: screenshot? [15:12] Riddell: no [15:14] ahoneybun: buenos dias [15:14] Riddell: good day as well [15:14] ahoneybun: what were you trying to do? [15:15] Riddell: some of the trello cards, remove the old doc page on the main site [15:15] ahoneybun: ah this stuff? http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/index/C/index.html [15:15] yes [15:16] ahoneybun: you'll just need to ask canonical sysadmin to remove those [15:16] e-mail rt@ubuntu.com [15:16] oh [15:16] whoa @_@ [15:16] retro eh :) [15:17] yeah [15:18] Riddell: want coffee? [15:18] shadeslayer: if you bring it up that would be lovely [15:18] right [15:19] Riddell: would you like me to include you in the email? forward it to you as well? [15:20] ahoneybun: CC me I guess, the sysadmins will probably ask me to confirm anyway [15:20] Riddell: Chocolate coffee? [15:20] shadeslayer: yum [15:20] shadeslayer: can you bring my camera too? should be on table infront of sofa [15:20] Riddell: thats what I thought [15:20] k [15:21] * ahoneybun looks for your email [15:24] jriddell@ubuntu .com [15:25] thanks [15:27] ScottK: bug 1250114 for SRU love too, new muon 2,1.1 [15:27] bug 1250114 in muon (Ubuntu Saucy) "SRU to 2.1.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1250114 [15:29] Riddell: I also CC'd val [15:29] [15:32] hi parad1se_, fancy testing that owncloud update? [15:33] "Sent from Windows Mail" ahoneybun rumbled :) [15:33] Riddell: I was playing games lastnight, trying [15:33] with my ps3 controller lol [15:34] I hear steam is on linux these days [15:34] although I've no idea what that actually means [15:34] apachelogger: is https://trello.com/b/sdTmhD0H/14-04-deadlines the trello board for Kubuntu? [15:35] *Kubuntu QA [15:35] the ones with deadlines [15:35] Riddell: mine has connecting issues [15:35] so [15:35] shadeslayer: QA that has a deadline :P [15:35] apachelogger: I'm dropping kubuntu_silence_kwallet_on_first_start.patch since I remember that went upstream [15:35] and IIRC we ship that as a default [15:35] so will make a good test case === jono is now known as Guest19842 [15:50] shadeslayer: that's a random test case IMO [15:50] should be on the regular 14.04 board [15:50] i.e. can be done at any point [15:50] I see [15:52] ScottK: bug 1246433 for SRU review [15:52] bug 1246433 in kdeconnect-kde (Ubuntu Saucy) "SRU 0.4.1 to saucy" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1246433 [15:52] ScottK: also bug 1249014 while I'm pinging you [15:52] bug 1249014 in ktp-auth-handler (Ubuntu Saucy) "[SRU] kde-telepathy-auth-handler does not depend on libqca2-plugin-ossl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1249014 [15:54] leif_, parad1se_: either of you able to test the update in bug 1245542 ? [15:54] bug 1245542 in kde4libs (Ubuntu Saucy) "Solid can not read processor information" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245542 [16:01] leif_, parad1se_: one more for testing bug 1246382 and bug 1246367 [16:01] bug 1246382 in plasma-nm (Ubuntu Saucy) "SRU 0.9.3.1 to saucy" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1246382 [16:01] bug 1246367 in libnm-qt (Ubuntu Saucy) "SRU 0.9.0.1 to saucy" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1246367 [16:01] Riddell: Hi Ridell, Iam still at work, but I will test it soon. [16:01] with the plasma-nm update you need to log in/out to ensure the widget continues to be in the panel [16:01] parad1se_: great [16:04] Riddell: shadeslayer: do you guys know about something regarding a zeitgeist patch in kdelibs? [16:04] not off the top of my head [16:05] looking at bzr [16:05] only zeitgeist I know of in kde is phonon isn't it? [16:05] * Riddell checks [16:05] i'm told it was supposed to exist at some point [16:05] it's defenitely not there now [16:05]