[00:35] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1206176] Powerdevil does not start, linking problem? @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206176 (by aydin demircioglu)
[00:39] <ScottK> Riddell: http://blog.steve.org.uk/so_i_have_a_new_project.html
[00:42] <manchicken> apachelogger: ping
[00:42] <valorie> nice, I think we went down to that end of town to see where the Queen sleeps when she hangs out in Edinburgh
[00:43] <manchicken> apachelogger: I think I'm on the right repo: git://anongit.kde.org/libqapt
[00:43] <apachelogger> manchicken: yes
[00:44] <manchicken> I'm getting worried about breaking compatibility with some of my changes. I started wrapping some tests around my changes last night.
[00:45] <manchicken> I've never done tests in Qt land before, so I'm a bit worried about the curve, but it can't be terribly difficult.
[00:47] <apachelogger> manchicken: I think there is quite some documentation on qtest, possible techbase.kde.org also has some stuff
[00:47] <apachelogger> generally speaking we are all terrible at ensure proper test coverage xD
[00:47] <manchicken> Yeah, that's what I've been using.
[00:47] <manchicken> I spent most of last night just getting the tests into cmake.
[00:47] <manchicken> I suck with cmake.
[00:48] <manchicken> Well, some coverage is better than no coverage.
[00:48] <apachelogger> just get some random kde thing and look at how it's done
[00:48] <apachelogger> kdelibs usually is the goto place
[00:48] <manchicken> I got the cmake stuff to work.
[00:48] <apachelogger> groovy
[00:49] <manchicken> I finally found out that even though I put my tests in the t directory and defined it in the CMakeLists.txt, you have to put the test itself into the top level if you want to use `make test`
[00:49] <manchicken> Now I just need to get the tests coded :)
[00:50] <manchicken> The problem I was having with libqapt previously is that if you were making changes in a file that wasn't /etc/apt/sources.list, it wiped your sources.list and still failed to delete the old file.
[00:51] <manchicken> So the solution I came up with is to modify the SourcesList class to recognize that there are mulitiple files. Instead of just holding a list of entries, it's holding a QHash<QString,SourceEntry> of items keyed by the filename.
[00:51] <manchicken> Sorry, QHash<QString,SourceEntryList>
[00:57] <manchicken> This means I'm creating a second SourcesList::entries() function which takes the argument of the filename.
[00:57] <apachelogger> mh
[00:57] <apachelogger> to be honest, that sounds like a bug in qapt
[00:57] <manchicken> That's what I'm modifying :)
[00:57] <apachelogger> right
[00:57] <manchicken> I think the bug is that it's actually not handing different files very well.
[00:58] <manchicken> By grouping the entries into lists by file name I hope to fix that.
[01:08] <ScottK> debfx: It's not.
[01:15] <soee> hi. someone using KDE Connect ?
[01:22] <manchicken> The android app?
[01:25] <soee> yup
[01:26] <soee> android app + kde app :)
[02:02] <ahoneybun> hey valorie 
[02:10] <valorie> hi ahoneybun
[02:10] <ahoneybun> whats up
[02:10] <valorie> not a whole lot
[02:11] <valorie> I'm thinking of trying to reply to the kubuntuguide folks with more of an idea of what we'd like to do
[02:11] <valorie> or have them do
[02:11] <valorie> haven't really had a chance to read over their entire guide
[02:11] <valorie> have you?
[02:11] <ahoneybun> I have not but the owner seems a bit of a smart...
[02:12] <valorie> oh well, so am I
[02:12] <valorie> lol
[02:12] <valorie> just not here
[02:12] <ahoneybun> on and on with the google translate
[02:13] <valorie> right
[02:13] <valorie> it's easy
[02:13] <valorie> I don't blame him for using it
[02:13] <valorie> we just can't use that
[02:13] <valorie> it's not nearly good enough
[02:13] <ahoneybun> I know but he seems confident in it
[02:14] <ahoneybun> btw I got a HTC One
[02:14] <valorie> ah, my oldest son has that
[02:14] <valorie> how do you like it?
[02:14] <valorie> he loves it; I found the edge touch to be really confusing
[02:15] <ahoneybun> love it
[02:16] <ahoneybun> very nice camera, fast
[02:16] <ahoneybun> I kinda like HTC Sense
[02:19] <ahoneybun> anyway I'm still trying to get the kubuntuguide guys to understand what we want do 
[02:20] <valorie> it would be nice if first we figured out what we DO want to do, right?
[02:20] <valorie> I mean, what do we want to do?
[02:20] <valorie> use their wiki for our docs?
[02:21] <valorie> because to me, that would be ideal, IF they install the translate plugin
[02:21] <valorie> and help us get translators
[02:21] <ahoneybun> that would be the best way
[02:22] <valorie> so I'll write again tonight and propose that, and ask right out clearly how they feel about that
[02:22] <ahoneybun> agreed
[02:22] <valorie> no offense, but your first email to them was a bit terse
[02:22] <ahoneybun> I know 
[02:23] <valorie> americans might not mind, but most europeans are a bit more formal
[02:23] <ahoneybun> not the best at being formal and getting a point across
[02:23] <valorie> words of politeness are useful
[02:24] <valorie> you have to realize that they have been doing their own thing for quite awhile
[02:24] <valorie> without a peep from us
[02:24] <valorie> so they might be feeling a bit neglected
[02:25] <ahoneybun> yea
[02:26] <ahoneybun> I can understand that
[02:30]  * ahoneybun needs to make a to-do list for things about the docs
[02:30] <ahoneybun> other then trello
[02:31] <ahoneybun> most of the new trello cards I can fix
[02:31] <ahoneybun> can't
[02:35] <valorie> well, that should be fixed
[02:35] <valorie> perhaps you need more permissions or something
[02:35] <valorie> trello is good, and we should use it like everyone else does
[02:35] <valorie> also, this way we can get devels, perhaps, to take a look-see
[02:36] <ahoneybun> I do need more permission to access the site, I *think* Riddell gave me something but it did not work/I did not save it
[02:37] <valorie> he's not around this weekend I think
[02:37] <valorie> ping him next week
[02:38] <ahoneybun> ok I just left comments on the trello page
[02:44] <valorie> goodo
[02:47] <ahoneybun> AC4 is pretty good
[02:49] <valorie> ac4?
[02:49] <ahoneybun> assassins creed 4
[02:49] <ahoneybun> off-topic
[02:52] <valorie> ok, I've heard it's good
[02:52]  * valorie is not a game player
[02:52] <ahoneybun> yea, kinda want to get battlefield 4
[02:54] <ahoneybun> I can control my tv with my one
[04:19] <claydoh> Mamarok: no I did not mod him, that apparently is the ubuntu-users list doing that to him, and others over some ot chatter concerning the fixubuntu kerfluffle
[04:24] <valorie> he's really a jerk
[04:24] <valorie> and IMO should have been modded long ago
[04:24] <valorie> we'll lose subscribers otherwise
[04:26] <valorie> claydoh: ^^^
[04:26] <claydoh> valorie: subscribers? Not many at all, and even fewer post at all. 
[04:26] <valorie> no wonder
[04:26] <valorie> seriously
[04:26] <valorie> I know mail lists are dying all over the place, but that guy is ridiculous
[04:26]  * mamarley recently quit two tech groups due to various jerks on the Internet :(
[04:26] <valorie> indeed
[04:27] <claydoh> no, it has never been highly subscribed, not since the KDE3 days 
[04:27] <valorie> there are only 24 hours in the day, and who wants to spend even a moment reading drivle like that?
[04:27] <valorie> still, people google and find mail list posts
[04:27] <valorie> I find useful stuff often
[04:29] <claydoh> I am slightly biased, being a forum person :) but I have in the past suggested closing the list.
[04:29] <claydoh> however that would look very bad
[04:29] <ScottK> claydoh: Well it was an annoying personality that caused me to unsubscribe back in the KDE3 days.
[04:30]  * claydoh is probably too laid back over such things
[04:30] <valorie> they are still useful to people on slow connections
[04:32] <ScottK> And to people who find forums hopeless.
[04:33] <valorie> sure
[04:33] <valorie> and IRC unknown
[04:33] <valorie> irc uber alles
[04:33]  * claydoh agrees with both ScottK and valorie
[04:34] <valorie> anyway, if this jerk isn't modded yet, after today he certainly should be
[04:34] <valorie> he's basically daring the owners to do it
[04:34] <valorie> flagrantly
[04:35] <valorie> if any help is needed on the list, I'm an experienced LO
[04:36] <valorie> and listadmin is my good friend
[04:36] <ahoneybun> back kinda
[04:38] <claydoh> valorie: another person would be good, it is *not* a lot of work, actually. Nearly none tbh. 
[04:39] <valorie> indeed
[04:39] <claydoh> my  own workload just gets in the way of the important things lol ;)
[04:39] <valorie> if you want me, shoot me the password and i'll add it to listadmin
[04:40] <valorie> valorie@kde.org
[04:40] <claydoh>  done
[04:40]  * ahoneybun just got in here
[04:40] <valorie> ahoneybun: are you on kubuntu-users list?
[04:40] <valorie> that's what we have been discussing
[04:40] <ahoneybun> just devel I think
[04:41] <valorie> that's unfortunate
[04:41] <ahoneybun> oh
[04:41] <valorie> all the devels who have the time should be on that list to lend their expertise
[04:41] <valorie> and lure new devels into packaging, helping with the docs, etc.
[04:42] <valorie> I would have asked for vols there, but there has been such a shitstorm about how to properly set up an HD
[04:42] <valorie> I didn't dare
[04:42] <ahoneybun> I'm on it
[04:43] <valorie> cool
[04:43] <valorie> I've lured two guys here recently, but then they both disappeared
[04:44] <valorie> you have to just keep doing it until a few stick
[04:44] <ahoneybun> http://mylinuxexplore.blogspot.com/2013/11/ubuntu-1310-saucy-salamander-review-and.html
[04:45] <ahoneybun> valorie: what about listadmin?
[04:46] <claydoh> valorie: I really nned to get into packaging, at least the easy stuff. I manage  to keep kmymoney up to date in my ppa, but constantly forget what I am doing
[04:46] <claydoh> time management is not my strong area
[04:47] <valorie> you need kmytime
[04:47] <ahoneybun> valorie: seems I can log into admin-kubuntu.org
[04:47] <valorie> lol
[04:47] <claydoh> valorie: lol
[04:47] <ahoneybun> nothing I can do I think
[04:48] <valorie> http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2011/09/are-you-listowner-try-listadmin-cli.html
[04:48] <claydoh> No, I need to stay away from google+, youtube, and other distractions.
[04:48] <valorie> but that is for listowners
[04:48] <valorie> I'm not an admin on the website, and don't want to be
[04:49] <valorie> my webby skillz are way rusty
[04:49]  * ahoneybun enjoys Eminem - Rap God
[04:49] <claydoh> and then there is the whole adroid rom thing I *must* pay attention to :(
[04:49] <ahoneybun> I can do some HTML CSS things
[04:49]  * ahoneybun is into roms
[04:49] <valorie> I have websites
[04:49] <valorie> they are just rusting into oblivion
[04:49] <ahoneybun> I can log into www-admin.kubuntu.org
[04:50] <valorie> I've never done a thing to my phone
[04:50] <ahoneybun> but change anything
[04:50] <valorie> not rooted it, or anything
[04:50] <ahoneybun> nothing so far to my HTC One
[04:50] <valorie> and it sucks
[04:50] <valorie> oh well
[04:50] <ahoneybun> I want to unlock the bootloader and root it
[04:50]  * claydoh runs a modded One rom on his DNA
[04:51] <ahoneybun> valorie: I think I need to use the default KDE browser
[04:51] <claydoh> porting ubuntu touch to it is way over my head/time availability
[04:52] <ahoneybun> claydoh: yea that would be a bit of work maybe
[04:52] <valorie> me too
[04:53] <valorie> one of these days aaron will get the vivaldi out, and i'll buy one of those
[04:53] <ahoneybun> any Kubuntu.org admins in here?
[04:54] <valorie> europe is asleep
[04:55] <ahoneybun> yea
[04:56]  * ahoneybun thinks maybe he needs filezilla for website mananging
[04:57] <valorie> fssh maybe?
[04:57] <ahoneybun> windows right now
[04:57] <ahoneybun> but
[04:57] <ahoneybun> there are windows programs or my phone
[04:57] <valorie> I used ssh in windows
[04:57] <ahoneybun> idk I'll just wait
[04:58] <valorie> but that's been many years ago
[05:01] <valorie> ok, just ran listadmin, and it went through like a top, clay
[05:06] <leif_> greetings
[05:07] <valorie> ahoneybun: I'd like you to meet leif, who has some doc and translation experience, and would like to help out
[05:08] <valorie> leif, meet ahoneybun (aaron) who heads up our doc team
[05:08] <leif_> cool just woke up 
[05:12] <leif_> ahh coffe
[05:22] <ScottK> https://web.archive.org/web/20060106235729/http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-commitment.php
[05:28] <valorie> ScottK: pm
[05:29] <valorie> that makes me sorta sad
[05:29] <valorie> otoh, time moves on
[05:57] <leif_> good coffe
[07:20] <leif_> ahhh
[07:46] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:47] <leif_> morning
[07:47] <lordievader> Hey leif_, how are you?
[07:48] <leif_> good real good
[07:50] <lordievader> leif_: Ah, nice. How so? If I may ask?
[07:50] <leif_> studien hard and prowling some dating sites
[07:50] <leif_> lol
[09:15] <Riddell> buenos dias amigos
[09:15] <parad1se_> Hi, can somebody tell me the status of bugreport #1071453 (bugs.lunchpad.net) for ubuntu 12.04.3 precise?
[09:15] <Riddell> bug 1071453
[09:16] <Riddell> High,In progress
[09:17] <parad1se_> Last post is 6 months ago. I would be a voluntary tester.
[09:18] <Riddell> " 	#16
[09:18] <Riddell> Quantal and Raring already have the fix, precise package still needs testing. Any takers?
[09:18] <Riddell> "
[09:18] <parad1se_> Yes. I can test it.
[09:18] <lordievader> Morning Riddell, parad1se_. How are you both?
[09:19] <Riddell> parad1se_: hmm his precise update seems to have disappeared
[09:19] <Riddell> I'll see if I can find it again
[09:20] <Riddell> lordievader: life's good here in the kde barcelona office, nobody else is in so I can play music as loud as I want
[09:21] <parad1se_> lordievader: No. Iam doing a new request for testing.
[09:21] <parad1se_> Riddell: That would be perfect! Thanks in advance.
[09:22] <lordievader> parad1se_: Testing can be fun, right?
[09:22] <lordievader> Riddell: Nice :)
[09:22] <parad1se_> lordievader: I hope so. ^^ My first test for linux ever. :)
[09:23] <lordievader> parad1se_: Do you happen to be in the Kubuntu Testers Team?
[09:25] <parad1se_> Yes sure. Do I have do participate in some meetings or something? Or just email contact?
[09:28] <lordievader> parad1se_: I was actually asking if you where a member. However read this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTesters :)
[09:39] <parad1se_> lordievader: Thanks. :-) I will create a launchpad account and add my mail to the mailling list.
[09:41] <Riddell> parad1se_: compiling now in 
[09:41] <Riddell> ppa:jr
[09:41] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=precise
[09:42] <lordievader> Riddell: parad1se_ wants to become part of the Kubuntu Testers Team ;)
[09:47] <Riddell> lovely
[09:47] <Riddell> hang around in here is the main thing
[09:47] <Riddell> and I can work out how to add to !testers
[09:49] <tsimpson> you do !testers-#kubuntu-devel is <reply> ....
[09:49] <tsimpson> (or in /msg, or get me to do it for you)
[09:51] <Riddell> parad1se_: are you likely to hang around in here?
[10:16] <Riddell> jussi: did you get the new invoice?
[10:17] <Riddell> "Ralph Janke (txwikinger) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team until 2014-11-13" yay txwikinger still loves us!
[10:30] <parad1se_> Riddell: Perfect! I can test the new build (kde-runtime) later at home. Here I just got a CentOS ;) I will give then my feedback. 
[10:30] <parad1se_> Riddell: Yes, Iam enjoying to hang around here. I think I will stay. :)
[10:31] <lordievader> parad1se_: :D
[10:40] <leif_> back
[10:43] <lordievader> Welcome back, leif_ 
[10:45] <leif_> thanks
[11:12] <leif_> time to studie some c
[11:17] <mikhas> hm, people volunteering for testing … what's the motivation?
[11:18] <mikhas> (don't get me wrong, it's good people are willing to do it)
[11:19] <leif_> sorry what
[11:21] <mikhas> that was probably a question for tsimpson or parad1se_ not you ;-)
[11:23] <leif_> ok
[11:25] <tsimpson> I suppose it's a good way to get involved
[11:33] <apachelogger> yofel: I am going to migrate kf5 to trusty this week
[11:34] <yofel> go ahead, I enabled runtime, but qt5 failed IIRC, not sure what the problem was
[11:35] <apachelogger> yofel: built fine meanwhile
[11:35] <yofel> yay
[11:53] <Riddell> apachelogger: migrate in neon5?
[11:55] <apachelogger> yeah
[12:05] <Riddell> valorie: ahoneybun: did you guys get what you wanted done on websites done?
[12:10] <shadeslayer> anyone have an idea if there is some sort of format for the selections file that synaptic and muon generate?
[12:15] <soee> guys are there any plans to add KDEConnect 4..1 
[12:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^
[12:20] <shadeslayer> soee: Riddell is handling the SRU for 0.4.1
[12:21] <Riddell> it's on my todo list
[12:21] <Riddell> I wonder where it got to
[12:21] <leif_> back to the book
[12:22] <Riddell> 0.4 is in saucy unapproved queue
[12:22] <Riddell> I'll get on 0.4.1 shortly
[12:23] <Riddell> Mirv: maybe you should be in on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-qt5-versions-in-ubuntu ?
[12:28] <cortexA9> hello Riddell 
[12:28] <cortexA9> there is a problem with kde
[12:29] <cortexA9> on the daily of today
[12:29] <cortexA9> doesn't start kde for me
[12:29] <cortexA9> manually works
[12:30] <cortexA9> with startx
[12:31] <cortexA9> but on the installer doesn't work
[12:36] <Riddell> cortexA9: trusty daily image?
[12:37] <Mirv> Riddell: makes sense
[12:39] <Mirv> thanks, added myself
[12:44] <cortexA9> Riddell: yeah
[12:51] <cortexA9> Riddell: when 4.12 beta1 is available on the daily ?
[13:20] <leif_> time for a break 
[13:23] <leif_> gues any one is not around
[13:59] <Riddell> leif_: how can we help you?
[14:03] <leif_> afternooon
[14:05] <leif_> is a new wana be developer
[14:06] <Riddell> leif_: ooh excellent :)
[14:07] <leif_> been talking whit one of the other guys for a couple of days
[14:08] <Riddell> leif_: I've a simple task if you're up for helping and running saucy
[14:09] <Riddell> new owncloud needs testing, bug 1245593
[14:11] <leif_> i run 13,10
[14:11] <Riddell> leif_: yes that's the one, are you able to test that owncloud update?
[14:11] <Riddell> just install owncloud and connect with your web browser and set up an account
[14:11] <leif_> gonna instal install it
[14:11] <Riddell> then upgrade to the package in -proposed
[14:12] <leif_> cool thanks
[14:14] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw we also need help with 4.11.80
[14:16] <Riddell> shadeslayer: tell it to leif_ :)
[14:16] <shadeslayer> leif_: ^^
[14:16] <leif_> yeah
[14:17] <shadeslayer> leif_: https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas
[14:18] <leif_> need that cloud set up first
[14:27]  * shadeslayer waves fist at lintian
[14:27] <shadeslayer> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.80_trusty.html is all orange/blue
[14:30] <cortexA9> red :P
[14:42] <Riddell> leif_: owncloud update worked for me but with the "upgrading to 5.0.12" message showing three times, how did you get on?
[14:52] <leif_> strange
[14:52] <Riddell> uh oh
[14:52] <leif_> cant figure out my sever adress
[14:52] <Riddell> hah
[14:52] <Riddell> leif_: is it your local machine?
[14:53] <leif_> trying to get the client app up and running
[14:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: bugs mentioned in the git log http://pastebin.kde.org/ppvbwxswe
[14:53] <Riddell> lovely shadeslayer 
[14:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: though alot more are fixed
[14:55] <Riddell> shadeslayer: no new features presumably?
[14:55] <leif_> hmmm
[14:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: not that I can see
[14:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: also, remember, don't bump the so version on the package?
[14:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yep
[14:57] <shadeslayer> cool
[15:09] <leif_> ok this is beond my skills
[15:09] <Riddell> leif_: what's up?
[15:09] <leif_> cant conect to the own cloud
[15:10] <Riddell> leif_: throught a web browser?
[15:10] <Riddell> leif_: through a web browser?
[15:10] <leif_> just getting back to the standard home page each time i long in
[15:10] <Riddell> bah
[15:11] <Riddell> leif_: screenshot?
[15:12] <ahoneybun> Riddell: no 
[15:14] <Riddell> ahoneybun: buenos dias
[15:14] <ahoneybun> Riddell: good day as well
[15:14] <Riddell> ahoneybun: what were you trying to do?
[15:15] <ahoneybun> Riddell: some of the trello cards, remove the old doc page on the main site
[15:15] <Riddell> ahoneybun: ah this stuff? http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/index/C/index.html
[15:15] <ahoneybun> yes
[15:16] <Riddell> ahoneybun: you'll just need to ask canonical sysadmin to remove those
[15:16] <Riddell> e-mail rt@ubuntu.com
[15:16] <ahoneybun> oh
[15:16] <shadeslayer> whoa @_@
[15:16] <Riddell> retro eh :)
[15:17] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:18] <shadeslayer> Riddell: want coffee?
[15:18] <Riddell> shadeslayer: if you bring it up that would be lovely
[15:18] <shadeslayer> right
[15:19] <ahoneybun> Riddell: would you like me to include you in the email? forward it to you as well?
[15:20] <Riddell> ahoneybun: CC me I guess, the sysadmins will probably ask me to confirm anyway
[15:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: Chocolate coffee?
[15:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yum
[15:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: can you bring my camera too?  should be on table infront of sofa
[15:20] <ahoneybun> Riddell: thats what I thought
[15:20] <shadeslayer> k
[15:21]  * ahoneybun looks for your email
[15:24] <Riddell> jriddell@ubuntu .com
[15:25] <ahoneybun> thanks
[15:27] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1250114 for SRU love too, new muon 2,1.1
[15:29] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I also CC'd val
[15:29] <parad1se_> 
[15:32] <Riddell> hi parad1se_, fancy testing that owncloud update?
[15:33] <Riddell> "Sent from Windows Mail"  ahoneybun rumbled :)
[15:33] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I was playing games lastnight, trying
[15:33] <ahoneybun> with my ps3 controller lol
[15:34] <Riddell> I hear steam is on linux these days
[15:34] <Riddell> although I've no idea what that actually means
[15:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: is https://trello.com/b/sdTmhD0H/14-04-deadlines the trello board for Kubuntu?
[15:35] <shadeslayer> *Kubuntu QA
[15:35] <apachelogger> the ones with deadlines
[15:35] <ahoneybun> Riddell: mine has connecting issues
[15:35] <ahoneybun> so
[15:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: QA that has a deadline :P
[15:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I'm dropping kubuntu_silence_kwallet_on_first_start.patch since I remember that went upstream
[15:35] <shadeslayer> and IIRC we ship that as a default
[15:35] <shadeslayer> so will make a good test case
[15:50] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that's a random test case IMO
[15:50] <apachelogger> should be on the regular 14.04 board
[15:50] <apachelogger> i.e. can be done at any point
[15:50] <shadeslayer> I see
[15:52] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1246433 for SRU review
[15:52] <Riddell> ScottK: also bug 1249014 while I'm pinging you
[15:54] <Riddell> leif_, parad1se_: either of you able to test the update in bug 1245542 ?
[16:01] <Riddell> leif_, parad1se_: one more for testing bug 1246382 and bug 1246367
[16:01] <parad1se_> Riddell: Hi Ridell, Iam still at work, but I will test it soon.
[16:01] <Riddell> with the plasma-nm update you need to log in/out to ensure the widget continues to be in the panel
[16:01] <Riddell> parad1se_: great
[16:04] <tsdgeos> Riddell: shadeslayer: do you guys know about something regarding a zeitgeist patch in kdelibs?
[16:04] <shadeslayer> not off the top of my head
[16:05] <shadeslayer> looking at bzr
[16:05] <Riddell> only zeitgeist I know of in kde is phonon isn't it?
[16:05]  * Riddell checks
[16:05] <tsdgeos> i'm told it was supposed to exist at some point
[16:05] <tsdgeos> it's defenitely not there now
[16:05] <tsdgeos> wondering if it didn't exist or just got dropped
[16:06] <tsdgeos> Riddell: ubuntu-kdelibs not kde-kdelibs
[16:06] <shadeslayer> bzr log -p | grep -i zeitgeist doesn't return anything so far
[16:06] <shadeslayer> nothing in the entire bzr history of kdelibs
[16:06] <Riddell> phonon changelog says "Remove build-dep on libqzeitgeist-dev, not in main"
[16:06] <shadeslayer> ( the packaging branch )
[16:07] <Riddell> tsdgeos: what is ubuntu-kdelibs?
[16:07] <Riddell> our package?
[16:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: he means the packages
[16:07] <Riddell> yeah, nothing there
[16:07] <tsdgeos> Riddell: you know that thing that has debian/patches in there
[16:07] <tsdgeos> ok
[16:07] <tsdgeos> so i may have been disinformed 
[16:07] <tsdgeos> tx
[16:41] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1246367 and bug 1246382 good for SRU for me
[16:46] <Riddell> ahoneybun: you need permission to access the feature tour?
[16:47] <lordievader> Not sure if this is already reported for Trusty, should I make a bug report?
[16:47] <lordievader> trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/kde4/muon-knsbackend.so', which is also in package libmuonprivate1 2.1.0-0ubuntu1
[16:47] <lordievader> Apt/dpkg fails to install libmuonprivate2_2.1.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb with ^ error.
[16:59] <shadeslayer> this is fun https://launchpadlibrarian.net/156332613/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-arm64.akonadi_1.10.80-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[16:59] <shadeslayer> segementation fault when setting up xml-core
[17:07] <Riddell> shadeslayer: arm64, not too important
[17:07] <Riddell> just retry if you care
[17:09] <Riddell> ScottK: hmm I'm not able to make that timeslot for Discuss reconciling the Qt requirements for Ubuntu vs. Kubuntu  either
[17:10] <Riddell> ScottK: what do you mean by "Switch to QPA"?
[17:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: true, but then it won't migrate to -release since arm64 is failing without some arm twisting
[17:12] <shadeslayer> gonna retry
[17:12] <shadeslayer> then file bugs
[17:12] <shadeslayer> if it fails
[17:40]  * Riddell e-mails jonathan thomas to check in
[17:40] <shadeslayer> thx Riddell :)
[17:42] <shadeslayer> lordievader: fix pushed for muon
[17:42] <shadeslayer> should be available in trusty
[17:43] <shadeslayer> Riddell: you need to decide what you want to do for dinner :)
[17:43] <shadeslayer> because I'm leaving in 30 minutes
[17:44] <lordievader> shadeslayer: Nice, will reinstall sometime later.
[17:45]  * shadeslayer is tired of doing 4.11.80 today
[17:45] <shadeslayer> will continue tomorrow
[18:06] <ScottK> Riddell: re QPA, the appmenu stuff that agateau did for Qt4 didn't end up in Qt5 as Qt has an alternate approach called QPA, but instead of forward porting appmenu to QPA, they forward ported the Qt4 appmenu to Qt5 as a distro patch.  They've been promising for 9 months now to jump to the proper Qt5 approach (QPA) so we can drop the patch.
[18:07] <ScottK> Riddell: re the time slot, I can probably make it, but no guarantees.  Are you OK with what I wrote up?
[18:07] <Riddell> ScottK: yes I am
[18:07] <ScottK> Great.  Thanks.
[18:08] <ScottK> I'll try to make it.
[18:22] <parad1se> Riddell: Hi, now Iam at home. I was trying do install and getting: kde-runtime haengt ab von kde-runtime-data (>= 4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.2). Depencie problem.
[18:23] <parad1se> He needs kde-runtime-data 4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.2
[18:25] <parad1se> Oh sorry, now I saw it.
[18:26] <parad1se> Everything is alright. :)
[18:39] <parad1se> Riddell: New little Problem: http://pastebin.com/a2M01J0f  Problem with kde-runtime-dbg, needs kdelibs5-dbg.
[23:09] <Riddell> parad1se: add it to sources.list and apt-get install it