| julian____ | http://ppa.launchpad.net is timing out for me | 01:09 |
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| julian____ | seems ok now | 01:21 |
| jose | wgrant: ping, around? | 01:29 |
| wgrant | jose: Hi | 01:31 |
| wgrant | julian____: Yeah, it's having some issues at the moment, we're investigating | 01:31 |
| jose | wgrant: hey! mind a PM? | 01:31 |
| wgrant | sure | 01:32 |
| Rc43 | Hi, guys. | 01:32 |
| Rc43 | Could anybody say me how to choose version of package from certain PPA? | 01:32 |
| Rc43 | I googled and asked at #ubuntu but still can't do that. | 01:33 |
| wgrant | Rc43: A PPA generally only has one version of a particular package for each Ubuntu release. | 01:33 |
| Rc43 | I added PPA and successfully installed one package from it, but how to install package. | 01:33 |
| Rc43 | But I can't install the package which has version in standard ubuntu repo too. | 01:34 |
| Rc43 | wgrant, I mean, I have the package X in PPA and in standard ubuntu's repo. | 01:34 |
| wgrant | Rc43: I don't understand what you mean. Do you have a specific example of what you are attempting to do, and what happens when you try? | 01:36 |
| Rc43 | wgrant, sure. | 01:37 |
| Rc43 | There is pacakge "ocaml" in ubuntu. But I want to install "ocaml" from PPA "avsm\ppa". | 01:37 |
| Rc43 | PPA is added successfully. When I type "apt-get install ocaml", ubuntu offer me standard version, not from PPA. | 01:38 |
| wgrant | Rc43: Have you run apt-get update since you added the PPA? | 01:39 |
| Rc43 | wgrant, yes. And I successfully installed one other package from PPA. | 01:39 |
| wgrant | Rc43: what does 'apt-cache policy ocaml' say? | 01:39 |
| wgrant | pastebin the full output | 01:39 |
| Rc43 | wgrant, it correctly says that I have two versions to choose. | 01:45 |
| Rc43 | http://rghost.ru/50087841/image.png | 01:45 |
| Rc43 | (couldn't paste text, it is in virtualbox) | 01:45 |
| wgrant | Rc43: 'sudo apt-get install ocaml' will install the one from the PPA, unless there's some dependency issue with that version in which case it *might* pick the old one from the primary archive. | 01:48 |
| wgrant | But apt will prefer the greater version (unless you use pinning, but those are both pinned to 0, so it doesn't apply here) | 01:49 |
| Rc43 | wgrant, can I manually forbid standard repo for this package with /etc/apt/preferences? It would ease searching the issue. | 01:50 |
| Rc43 | Because I already have some rules in /etc/apt/preferences and maybe both versions have unsatisfied dependencies; if I disable one version I will see if it is true. | 01:50 |
| wgrant | Rc43: You could, but pinning usually makes things more difficult to diagnose, not easier. | 01:55 |
| wgrant | What do you have in /etc/apt/preferences today? | 01:55 |
| Rc43 | wgrant, I have forbidden *gnome*, *x11*, *gtk*, *qt*. | 01:57 |
| Rc43 | wgrant, if you know how to forbid standard package, please say, I think it will help to diagnose | 01:57 |
| Rc43 | (in this situation) | 01:57 |
| wgrant | Rc43: Forbidden how and why? | 01:58 |
| Rc43 | Package: *gnome* Pin: origin Pin-Priority: -1 | 01:59 |
| wgrant | Why? | 01:59 |
| wgrant | Pinning eg. *gtk* to <0 will cause anything that happens to have built against GTK to fail to install | 01:59 |
| wgrant | It's extremely unlikely that you'd ever want that. | 01:59 |
| Rc43 | Because I need only some dev programs on this machine and if they require a lot of dependencies it is simplier to find alternative without them. So I want to know when there are a lot of redundant dependencies. | 02:00 |
| wgrant | What do you hope to achieve by forbidding those strings? | 02:00 |
| Rc43 | Certainly, ocaml doesn't require gnome. | 02:00 |
| wgrant | ocaml depends on libx11-dev | 02:00 |
| Rc43 | *gnome* forbids all gnome related packages, it is what I want. | 02:00 |
| Rc43 | wgrant, standard version yes, I don't know why | 02:00 |
| Rc43 | that is why I want to use the version from PPA | 02:00 |
| wgrant | Because things like to have X libraries... | 02:00 |
| wgrant | you may be able to install ocaml-nox, but in general it's really unwise to pin away libraries like that | 02:01 |
| Rc43 | It certainly mustn't | 02:01 |
| Rc43 | I know about ocaml-nox. | 02:01 |
| wgrant | It might buy you a tiny bit of disk space, at the expense of a lot of pain when you try to install things. | 02:01 |
| wgrant | If you really want to continue with such a strange and pointless pinning scheme, you're on your own, I'm afraid. | 02:01 |
| Rc43 | So there is no way to choose manually version from PPA? | 02:02 |
| Rc43 | I didn't ask to solve my whole problem, only this small part that I can't find. | 02:02 |
| wgrant | Rc43: You could perhaps try pinning the relevant package up by Origin | 02:03 |
| Rc43 | Pinning is changing priority? | 02:03 |
| Rc43 | How to describe this package in /etc/apt/preferences? | 02:04 |
| StevenK | What about =? It may point out the dependancy problem that is preventing 4.0 from installing. | 02:04 |
| wgrant | If you don't know what pinning is, you probably shouldn't have weird pinning rules like *gtk* :) | 02:04 |
| Rc43 | wgrant, I know the special case with -1 :) | 02:05 |
| Rc43 | wgrant, ok, I think something like 1 will work, but how to point this package? | 02:05 |
| wgrant | Package: ocaml | 02:06 |
| Rc43 | BTW, I can clear this file after installation, so it will not affect future. | 02:06 |
| Rc43 | "Package: ocaml" how it gets that I mean PPA's version? | 02:06 |
| Rc43 | StevenK, what does "=" mean? | 02:06 |
| wgrant | Pin: origin "LP-PPA-avsm" | 02:07 |
| Rc43 | wgrant, thanks! | 02:08 |
| wgrant | You could also try StevenK's suggested technique | 02:08 |
| wgrant | *Or* you could realise that installing libx11 isn't that bad after all. | 02:09 |
| Rc43 | It says `Did't understand "LP-PPA-avsm"' | 02:09 |
| wgrant | Er, maybe 'release o=LP-PPA-avsm' | 02:09 |
| Rc43 | wgrant, I will never use X features oon this system. So it is just workaround for me (because packages are not ortogonal because of somebody's workarouns). | 02:10 |
| wgrant | What does the workaround achieve? | 02:10 |
| wgrant | Like | 02:10 |
| wgrant | What is it working around? | 02:10 |
| wgrant | Binaries that might want to use X at some point in some situations have to link against libx11 | 02:12 |
| wgrant | Unless a separate version is built without X support | 02:12 |
| Rc43 | wgrant, I mean X dependency should be separated, don't know why it is here (in PPA's version there is no it). If it is here then I think it is added because it was difficult to make better; so it is workaround. | 02:12 |
| wgrant | So Ubuntu either has to have a completely separate build that doesn't link against X, or just accept that installing libx11 isn't fatal. | 02:12 |
| wgrant | libx11 is just a library | 02:12 |
| wgrant | It's not an X server | 02:12 |
| Rc43 | wgrant, btw, I dind't understand what StevenK means... | 02:12 |
| wgrant | It's a library that can talk to an X server | 02:12 |
| StevenK | Rc43: I meant 'apt-get install ocaml=<version>' | 02:13 |
| Rc43 | StevenK, thats what I asked from the beginning :) | 02:13 |
| Rc43 | Thank you. | 02:13 |
| Rc43 | I just didn't know how to specify it; I tried hyphen. | 02:13 |
| StevenK | Rc43: It's listed in the first screen of 'man apt-get' :-) | 02:14 |
| Rc43 | StevenK, I looked it, but earlier then I got that PPA's name is part of version. | 02:15 |
| lfaraone | the last entry in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1091605 says the bug has been "fix released" in Ubuntu, but the top of the page says is "triaged". Is there a bug, or am I reading it wrogn? | 02:16 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1091605 in quantum (Ubuntu) "Internal interfaces defined via OVS are not brought up properly after a reboot" [Medium,Triaged] | 02:16 |
| wgrant | Changed in quantum (Ubuntu): | 02:17 |
| wgrant | status: In Progress → Fix Released | 02:17 |
| wgrant | status: Fix Released → Triaged | 02:17 |
| wgrant | lfaraone: It was changed to Fix Released and then back to Triaged | 02:17 |
| lfaraone | ahhh, okay. so yes, I am reading it wrong :) | 02:17 |
| lfaraone | I'm currently getting a timeout whenever I try to view a merge proposal | 02:32 |
| lfaraone | OOPS-f13532b009268f217db66e647e2a9088 | 02:32 |
| ubot5 | https://oops.canonical.com/?oopsid=OOPS-f13532b009268f217db66e647e2a9088 | 02:32 |
| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | ||
| ubuntoid | hi all. can anyone help me please? can i install php 5.5 (or at least 5.4) on my server with ubuntu 11.04 running? i followed instructions on launchpad: added Ondrej's repositories and did the apt-get update/upgrade, but php version is still 5.3 for some reason | 14:32 |
| tjaalton | hi, an upload to ppa got rejected, the email has a log of dpkg-source applying patches but no apparent error | 14:42 |
| tjaalton | so I'm wondering why it failed | 14:53 |
| tjaalton | <tumbleweed> :) | 15:17 |
| JonnyJD | tjaalton: maybe you have an upload error, but you are looking at the build log? | 15:24 |
| tjaalton | the changes got rejected | 15:25 |
| tjaalton | upload went fine, according to dput | 15:25 |
| tjaalton | dpkg-source failed for krb5_1.11.3+dfsg-3+test1.dsc [return: 9] | 15:25 |
| tjaalton | i need to run now, ping me if there's something | 15:28 |
| kostja_osipov | kk | 15:34 |
| lfaraone | tjaalton: if you pasted the contents of the email you received in the rejection, that would be helpful | 16:35 |
| tjaalton | lfaraone: can't right now, but after the line above there was just dpkg-source output applying the patches | 17:09 |
| tjaalton | the last patch does generate a warning, but otherwise applies fine | 17:15 |
| tjaalton | the warning is not on the email output though | 17:17 |
| === dpm is now known as dpm-afk | ||
| mfisch | I've been having issues branching some of the precise based stuff recently, it ends up with a message like this: | 19:42 |
| mfisch | bzr: ERROR: Revision {didier.roche@canonical.com-20121207070205-mmh30hgqnjjxazbm} not present in "Graph(StackedParentsProvider(bzrlib.repository._LazyListJoin(([CachingParentsProvider(None)], []))))" | 19:42 |
| mfisch | Is there any fix for this? | 19:43 |
| mfisch | or workaround | 19:43 |
| wgrant | mfisch: Bug #888615 has a workaround. | 23:26 |
| ubot5 | bug 888615 in Bazaar "UDD branch freshness checker breaks on incomplete history" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/888615 | 23:26 |
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