| LXLE | has anyone had success searching the root directory for files using pcmanfm search tool? | 00:33 |
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| Shiver_ | hello and good eveing | 01:33 |
| ianorlin | how can I help? | 01:33 |
| Shiver_ | I am looking for help loading Lunbuntu, onto a Power Mac G4.. I can load it persay, but when I get to the install option my USB keyboard and Mouse isn't working | 01:34 |
| Shiver_ | My Mouse 'light' is off... and the keyboard worked fine prior to the splash screen I am using an Overburned CD version 13.04 | 01:35 |
| Shiver_ | Any help is greatly appricated | 01:35 |
| Shiver_ | I have the system across the room from now, I am using a Windows 7 machine now but the G4 is plugged in and waiting | 01:37 |
| Shiver_ | from me now | 01:38 |
| ianorlin | can you select check the disk integrity when booting it | 01:38 |
| ianorlin | or when you get to that keyboard doesn't work | 01:39 |
| ianorlin | splash screen of install or splash screen after install? | 01:39 |
| Shiver_ | Pardon my 'stupidity' and the terms... But when it boots up and look like it is in a dos setting, at that time Yes I can use the keyboard for the conf I did so and typed out the ABC'S and the light on my mouse was on | 01:42 |
| Shiver_ | I het the Enter key and when I do,that seems the point the USB hardware stops to work | 01:43 |
| ianorlin | for the install or after? | 01:43 |
| Shiver_ | For ummthe install No spalsh screen at this point | 01:45 |
| ianorlin | this is the desktop iso or the alternate? | 01:45 |
| Shiver_ | let me go and copy the Last line on my 'dos' screen and tell you what it is | 01:45 |
| Shiver_ | Desktop iso | 01:45 |
| ianorlin | does the moues work in whatever system is on there now? | 01:46 |
| Shiver_ | sorry it started to load and it is Lubuntu 13.10 | 01:46 |
| Shiver_ | By the way, thank you Ianorlin | 01:48 |
| ianorlin | ah is it loading now? | 01:48 |
| Shiver_ | KK back | 01:50 |
| Shiver_ | My CD is Live 13.10 Saucy Salamander Built 20131016.1 | 01:51 |
| ianorlin | ah yeah it is desktop installer | 01:52 |
| ianorlin | you did have a try before installing option right | 01:52 |
| Shiver_ | I booted it up I got the screen Last dos command says if doubt press enter-- I used the conf to keep it from loading automatically | 01:52 |
| Shiver_ | On this system, I don't (or didn't) use/have 'Try before installing' | 01:53 |
| Shiver_ | I use Ubuntuand I am familier with it.. | 01:54 |
| ianorlin | ah then it is actually the alt installer which is keyboard only | 01:54 |
| ianorlin | you will get a graphical user interface after install | 01:54 |
| ianorlin | juse follow the prompts and press keys | 01:54 |
| Shiver_ | I have an OLD Power Mac g4 it has an Apple Mac OS loaded... And I have some older Larger HDD I removed the OS HDD, placed a Mac formatted Blank HDD in it and boot from the CD | 01:55 |
| Shiver_ | Ok now the Keyboard and mouse works.. It has Lights etc | 01:56 |
| ianorlin | ah ok let me know if you have any problems? | 01:56 |
| Shiver_ | But if I hit 'Enter' Key and get the splash screen the USB hardware stops | 01:56 |
| Shiver_ | I hit enter- the screen goes to a Blue Splash screen With white lettering Lubuntu 13.10 three option Keyboard dosen't work at this time (and the Optical mouse Light is off | 02:00 |
| ianorlin | is it loading? | 02:01 |
| ianorlin | how much ram? | 02:02 |
| Shiver_ | it then goes to a black screen with Yellow lettering and Loads a GUI My mouse Icon is dead center to the screen (will not work/light is off) and keyboard is off too... have to hold the Power button down to restart when I do I get like 7 options and off course I can't pick them (usb not working) | 02:02 |
| ianorlin | does hitting control alt f1 do anything? | 02:03 |
| Shiver_ | the upper left hand side of the GUI has Load Lubuntu 13.10(folder) | 02:03 |
| Shiver_ | Let me go and try Be right Back | 02:03 |
| Shiver_ | K CTRL -ALT f1 Nothihng | 02:04 |
| Shiver_ | CTRL ALT Del /Esc Nothing | 02:05 |
| Shiver_ | Still at splash screen looks like a weaved background and the Ico is still there | 02:05 |
| ianorlin | does pressing any key work? | 02:09 |
| Shiver_ | not at all | 02:10 |
| ianorlin | wiat this doesn't have a sysreq key does it | 02:10 |
| Shiver_ | no not that i know of | 02:14 |
| Shiver_ | And I just walked back I am at the desktop screen to install it.. I disconnected the USB and retried it and No not working | 02:15 |
| Runemoro | Hello, can anyone help me? | 02:23 |
| * ianorlin is not sure how unless you can hard boot and do boot integrity test | 02:23 | |
| Runemoro | I just installed lubuntu-core and now when I login the desktop is blank | 02:23 |
| Runemoro | There is no right-click menu | 02:24 |
| ianorlin | does pressing control alt t work? | 02:24 |
| ianorlin | is there a panel at the bottom | 02:24 |
| Runemoro | no, no | 02:24 |
| ianorlin | does pressing contorl alt f1 get you to a tty | 02:24 |
| Runemoro | Yes, it does | 02:25 |
| Runemoro | hello? | 02:27 |
| ianorlin | can you try updating system with apt-get update and dist-upgrade | 02:29 |
| Runemoro | ianorlin, There are no updates | 02:30 |
| ianorlin | is this from mini-iso? | 02:31 |
| Runemoro | yes | 02:31 |
| ianorlin | does dpkg --get-selections | grep lxpanel return any packages if you have no panel? | 02:33 |
| Runemoro | yes, lxpanel and lubuntu-lxpanel-icons | 02:33 |
| ianorlin | you said control alt t didn't bring up a terminal | 02:35 |
| ianorlin | did you log into openbox? | 02:35 |
| Runemoro | No | 02:35 |
| ianorlin | to both? | 02:35 |
| ianorlin | does clicking on the desktop do anything? | 02:36 |
| Runemoro | n | 02:36 |
| Runemoro | no* | 02:36 |
| ianorlin | what kind of graphics card? | 02:39 |
| Runemoro | intel | 02:39 |
| Runemoro | and xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed | 02:40 |
| Shiver_ | Ianorlin -I used live-powerpc USB seems to be working and tring other commands.. AFK | 02:40 |
| ianorlin | ah ok | 02:40 |
| Shiver_ | I used Live-nosplash-powerpc seems to be trying to work | 02:41 |
| ianorlin | can you cat ~/.xseisson errors and see if there are any? | 02:42 |
| Runemoro | (gnome-settings-daemon:1168): color-plugin-WARNING **: unable to get EDID for xrandr-LVDS1: unable to get EDID for output | 02:42 |
| Runemoro | spammed over and over | 02:42 |
| Runemoro | ianorlin, Could this be related? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1985837 | 02:46 |
| Runemoro | ianorlin? | 02:50 |
| Runemoro | is there any way I could install the lubuntu desktop only without any other programs | 02:52 |
| ianorlin | sorry my mom was bleeding | 02:53 |
| Runemoro | Other than mini.iso because that doesn't work | 02:53 |
| Runemoro | oh... Is she ok? | 02:53 |
| ianorlin | yes | 02:53 |
| ianorlin | that thread looked like it solution might work if your ~/.config/monitors.xml was wrong | 02:54 |
| Runemoro | I don't have that file | 02:55 |
| glen_ | problem booting lubuntu | 02:56 |
| ianorlin | right after install? | 02:56 |
| ianorlin | which version? | 02:57 |
| glen_ | no. i had installed lubuntu ... but then did an install of xubuntu-desktop | 02:57 |
| Runemoro | Found something that might help me: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution#Problem:__Incorrect_Resolution_when_no_EDID_available_such_as_from_old_monitor_or_a_KVM_device | 02:57 |
| glen_ | and tried to go back to lubuntu-desktop but now the boot does not complete | 02:57 |
| glen_ | 13.10 is the version | 02:57 |
| ianorlin | can you get into a tty? | 02:58 |
| glen_ | yes | 02:58 |
| glen_ | i can press ctl-alt-f1 and log in | 03:00 |
| Runemoro | ianorlin, xorg.conf is missing... | 03:00 |
| ianorlin | ah then the boot paramter of the video might do the trick now to look up how to do that | 03:01 |
| ianorlin | http://askubuntu.com/questions/150879/can-i-force-vga-signal-output-even-when-xrandr-shows-disconnected looks like it might help | 03:05 |
| ianorlin | for runemoror | 03:05 |
| ianorlin | glen_ check ~/.xsession-errors | 03:05 |
| Runemoro | OMG! | 03:06 |
| Runemoro | I FIXED IT | 03:06 |
| Runemoro | by deleting .Xauthority | 03:06 |
| Runemoro | I hate X, I can't wait for Mir | 03:06 |
| glen_ | .xsession-errors shows that there is a problem in .profile i will comment line and reboot | 03:09 |
| Runemoro | glen_, where does the boot stop? | 03:10 |
| glen_ | i see lubuntu and the 5 dots | 03:14 |
| glen_ | it does not finish | 03:14 |
| Runemoro | glen_, press esc | 03:14 |
| glen_ | it is looping | 03:15 |
| Runemoro | press the escape key | 03:15 |
| Runemoro | what's written in the terminal | 03:15 |
| glen_ | now i see * Stopping CPU interrupts balancing daemon | 03:15 |
| Runemoro | reboot the computer | 03:16 |
| glen_ | most lines have [ ok ] .. some with [fail] | 03:16 |
| Runemoro | and hold shift while it boots | 03:16 |
| Runemoro | wait | 03:17 |
| Runemoro | is it stuck on * Stopping CPU interrupts balancing daemon | 03:17 |
| glen_ | ok, i am in grub window now | 03:17 |
| Runemoro | highlight ubuntu and press e | 03:18 |
| glen_ | k, i am there | 03:18 |
| Runemoro | replace quiet splash $vt_handoff with text | 03:19 |
| Runemoro | then ctrl-x | 03:19 |
| glen_ | k | 03:20 |
| glen_ | i have the login prompt | 03:20 |
| glen_ | there were 2 lines that came up on the boot. but i could not read them in time. | 03:21 |
| Runemoro | ok | 03:21 |
| Runemoro | the text login line yes? | 03:21 |
| glen_ | yes | 03:21 |
| Runemoro | login | 03:22 |
| Runemoro | and type vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 03:22 |
| Runemoro | wait, sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 03:22 |
| glen_ | there is no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 | 03:23 |
| Runemoro | yes, it should create it | 03:24 |
| glen_ | ok | 03:25 |
| glen_ | i have an empty file there now (xorg.conf) | 03:25 |
| Runemoro | press i | 03:25 |
| Runemoro | and type: | 03:25 |
| Runemoro | Section "Device" | 03:25 |
| Runemoro | Identifier "Intel GMA3600" | 03:25 |
| Runemoro | Driver "fbdev" | 03:25 |
| Runemoro | EndSection | 03:26 |
| Runemoro | after that press ESC | 03:26 |
| Runemoro | then type :quit | 03:26 |
| glen_ | k, that is done | 03:27 |
| Runemoro | ok | 03:27 |
| Runemoro | now lxsession | 03:27 |
| Runemoro | and ctrl-alt-f7 | 03:27 |
| glen_ | i do see an old core file in /etc/X11 | 03:28 |
| glen_ | sorry, is lxsession a command? | 03:30 |
| Runemoro | yes | 03:30 |
| glen_ | k, it returned messages: | 03:30 |
| glen_ | Session is (null) | 03:31 |
| glen_ | DE is (null) | 03:31 |
| glen_ | No session set ... | 03:31 |
| glen_ | No desktop env ... | 03:31 |
| Runemoro | hmm | 03:31 |
| glen_ | Gtk- | 03:31 |
| glen_ | oops | 03:31 |
| Runemoro | Press cttrl-alt-delete | 03:31 |
| glen_ | k | 03:31 |
| Runemoro | it should reboot now | 03:32 |
| glen_ | last line was warning *** cannot open display | 03:32 |
| glen_ | rebooting now | 03:32 |
| glen_ | still got 2 lines i could not read on reboot | 03:32 |
| glen_ | reboot is running.... | 03:33 |
| glen_ | esc shows LightDM failed | 03:34 |
| Runemoro | is it stuck? | 03:34 |
| glen_ | and plymouth failed, too | 03:34 |
| glen_ | yes reboot still looping | 03:35 |
| Runemoro | Are there still messages continuing or is it stuck on one? | 03:35 |
| Runemoro | If it's stuck what's the last one | 03:35 |
| glen_ | last 2 lines are * Stopping cpu interrupts balancing daemon and * Starting | 03:37 |
| Runemoro | just "* Starting"? | 03:37 |
| glen_ | yes | 03:38 |
| glen_ | * Starting [ ok ] | 03:38 |
| glen_ | perhaps no [ ok ] | 03:38 |
| Runemoro | Did you do anything before it broke? | 03:39 |
| ianorlin | I think he said he installed xubuntu desktop | 03:40 |
| Runemoro | oh | 03:40 |
| glen_ | yes. i had installed xubuntu-desktop | 03:40 |
| glen_ | then tried to remove that and install lubuntu-desktop | 03:40 |
| Runemoro | What did you have before? | 03:40 |
| glen_ | it was running with xubuntu for a while | 03:41 |
| Runemoro | Why would you try to install xubuntu-desktop if that's what it had? | 03:41 |
| glen_ | i am almost to a point of backing up the home dir and reinstalling ... | 03:41 |
| glen_ | ok | 03:41 |
| Runemoro | I think that's what you should do | 03:42 |
| glen_ | starting the install of xubuntu desktop now | 03:43 |
| glen_ | ready for reboot ... anything else before reboot? | 03:44 |
| Runemoro | no | 03:44 |
| glen_ | still get 2 lines on reboot | 03:44 |
| glen_ | but i do see the xubuntu login screen now | 03:45 |
| glen_ | logging in now. | 03:45 |
| glen_ | so what should i do now? back up the files.... (recommendations for backup?) | 03:46 |
| ianorlin | yes back stuff up | 03:46 |
| Runemoro | Copy /home onto a usb stick | 03:47 |
| ianorlin | or external hard drive | 03:47 |
| glen_ | k | 03:47 |
| glen_ | k, thanks for getting me to logon! | 03:50 |
| Runemoro | yw :D | 03:50 |
| Runemoro | also, if you ever need to reinstall everything you can find a list of what packages were installed in /var/log/apt/history.log to save you some time while reinstalling what programs you had | 03:51 |
| ianorlin | or you can use dpkg --get-selections < packagelist.txt | 03:52 |
| Runemoro | but that lists dependencies | 03:52 |
| ianorlin | ah true | 03:53 |
| Runemoro | I have to go, bye everyone | 03:57 |
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| jarnos | How can I report an audio bug? I have remarkable noise shown in input levels in Audacity, even if Capture channel is muted. There is more noise in the left channel. | 14:22 |
| melodie | does someone know if in Precise the kernels of the series 3.8.x are with or without PAE? | 19:50 |
| Unit193 | Not off hand, but wouldn't be hard to tell if you just pull the /boot/config-3.8*-generic file. | 19:52 |
| melodie | hi Unit193 yes, right. I have not thought of going to fetch the list of files, so bad for me :) | 20:21 |
| utusan | Earlier I reported here about Firefox not starting in Lubuntu session but still won't even with the lxsession update today. Funny it starts with LXDE session as well as in openbox/razor session. | 20:23 |
| Unit193 | utusan: I didn't read scrollback, did someone tell you to call it from the terminal? | 20:24 |
| utusan | terminal or not it doesn't | 20:24 |
| Unit193 | Yes, but in this case it may give some interesting output. | 20:25 |
| utusan | segfault | 20:25 |
| Unit193 | Huh. This is 13.10? And any configuration changed? dmesg/syslog say anything useful? | 20:26 |
| Unit193 | Firefox works in Lubuntu here, 13.10. | 20:26 |
| utusan | this is 14.04 | 20:27 |
| Unit193 | Aha, alrighty. | 20:27 |
| * Unit193 grumbles, decides to download and look. | 20:30 | |
| utusan | What I don't understand is it works in LXDE( right now) and openbox/razor session. This Firefox is the same app shared by precise/raring/saucy install. | 20:31 |
| utusan | Lubuntu session executes lxsession but LXDE calls startlxde if this helps. | 20:33 |
| Unit193 | Know what that script has in it? | 20:34 |
| utusan | lxsession is a binary file but startlxde is too long. not sure if you have it but you can look it up on /usr/share/xsessions | 20:38 |
| Unit193 | I checked, I didn't. I could look it up on LP, but I'm waiting for trusty to download, and it's not going quickly at ~300KB/s :/ | 20:39 |
| NuSuey | finally got a brain and installing lubuntu instead of ubuntu :o gratz brain.. | 20:39 |
| Unit193 | Congrats and glad you like it, NuSuey. | 20:39 |
| utusan | Unit193: hope you can have it fixed. Just let you know so I can use lubuntu session again. Meantime I'm using razor-qt/openbox/LXDE | 20:41 |
| Unit193 | utusan: Well, trusty is very early development right now, and I'm not really a Lubuntu dev. Might be worth filing against lxsession or lubuntu-meta or somesuch. | 20:42 |
| NuSuey | Unit193: just wondering where can I find what, etc .. for example searching for - how to change sound output :) | 21:02 |
| Unit193 | alsamixer is the sound tool, but you can install pulse too if you need it. | 21:02 |
| NuSuey | Unit193: yeah, but where can setup to output the sound to the HDMI output for example :) seraching for that | 21:05 |
| NuSuey | I would rather not use pulse audio | 21:09 |
| NuSuey | gives me issues | 21:09 |
| Unit193 | NuSuey: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#HDMI_output_does_not_work | 21:11 |
| NuSuey | yeah the asound command worked.. just wondering how to change the whole system sound output to hdmi ..and back :) | 21:12 |
| Unit193 | Yes, it said that too, ~/.asoundrc | 21:13 |
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