=== slacker_1l is now known as slacker_nl | ||
=== synaptix is now known as thecowmoos | ||
=== thecowmoos is now known as synaptix | ||
darkangel_ | Hey is there a possible way to Compress the Hard Drive its self without usin 7zip or any thing like that? | 17:12 |
---|---|---|
darkangel | Ubuntu 14.04 is Freakin alsome | 21:30 |
jtaylor | darkangel: concerning your compression question, btrfs supports transparent compression | 21:49 |
darkangel | Heard resently its not stable. But how do u get it? | 21:50 |
jtaylor | its usable but last I used it dpkg was pretty slow on it | 21:52 |
jtaylor | you chose it as filesystem when formating | 21:52 |
darkangel | ok | 21:52 |
darkangel | how do u compress it? | 21:54 |
jtaylor | you mount it with some flag and it compresses automatically | 21:54 |
jtaylor | https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Compression | 21:54 |
darkangel | so what ever files is downloaded into the btrfs file system it compresses it automaticly? | 21:55 |
jtaylor | yes | 21:55 |
darkangel | alsome | 21:55 |
darkangel | Linux just keeps getting better and better | 21:56 |
jtaylor | yabout time we catch up with windows xp :) | 21:56 |
darkangel | yup | 21:57 |
darkangel | is there any options or Compressing radios u can set for the btrfs file sys? | 21:57 |
jtaylor | only two algorithms I think | 21:58 |
darkangel | disk utils? | 21:58 |
darkangel | Can btrfs be a Default Main File system? | 22:09 |
jtaylor | maybe soon | 22:10 |
jtaylor | its still slower than ext4 in many situation | 22:10 |
darkangel | i c | 22:10 |
FernandoMiguel | darkangel: sure | 22:13 |
FernandoMiguel | used it for 3 years | 22:14 |
FernandoMiguel | it's definitely slower on SSDs | 22:14 |
FernandoMiguel | not that slower on HDD | 22:14 |
darkangel | i c | 22:14 |
FernandoMiguel | and it has awesome features | 22:14 |
FernandoMiguel | like expand, dedup, snapshot, etc | 22:15 |
darkangel | So it dont have issues on bein a Main file system like no Serious bugs? | 22:15 |
jtaylor | though expand, snapshot and sort of subvolumes can also be done with lvm | 22:15 |
FernandoMiguel | I did use ZFS 4linux for two cycles | 22:16 |
FernandoMiguel | till my SSD died and I couldn't restore the ZFS partition | 22:16 |
FernandoMiguel | back to ext4 now | 22:16 |
darkangel | well i might check it out on my HDD wow | 22:17 |
FernandoMiguel | ZFS is very very powerfull | 22:20 |
FernandoMiguel | and it does have more management tools than BTRFS | 22:20 |
FernandoMiguel | but much less well supported by the kernel | 22:20 |
FernandoMiguel | so I can break on kernel updates | 22:20 |
lapion | FernandoMiguel, an install on btrfs takes forever.. | 22:36 |
FernandoMiguel | lapion: no idea... haven't done one ine 3 or 4 years | 22:36 |
FernandoMiguel | plus running a brand new SSD, samsung Evo 840 250GBs | 22:36 |
* lapion installed xubuntu with a network install and it took 8 hours.. later had to do a reinstall with ext4 from scratch also from network took 2 to 3 hours.. | 22:37 | |
FernandoMiguel | could be a slow network, lapion | 22:37 |
FernandoMiguel | even Wind8 doesn't take that long LOL | 22:37 |
lapion | nope FernandoMiguel the ext4 install was including network download.. the btrfs instal was after network download | 22:38 |
penguin42 | I think I had read about issues with btrfs v dpkg | 23:16 |
jtaylor | yes its pretty slow | 23:19 |
jtaylor | but can be worked around with eatmydata | 23:19 |
penguin42 | nod, which frankly probably makes sense if it was tied into taking a btrfs snapshot at the start of a major update and then setting eatmydata | 23:28 |
penguin42 | jtaylor: Why isn't eatmydata set during install anyway - for a fresh install there's no reason to do all the sync's is there? | 23:28 |
jtaylor | last I asked people though --force-unsafe-io is enough | 23:31 |
jtaylor | but someone agreed with me its not and wanted to look into it, don't know if anything happened | 23:32 |
jtaylor | maybe it did, because my last install was pretty fast even without manual eatmydata setup | 23:32 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!