=== slacker_1l is now known as slacker_nl === synaptix is now known as thecowmoos === thecowmoos is now known as synaptix [17:12] Hey is there a possible way to Compress the Hard Drive its self without usin 7zip or any thing like that? [21:30] Ubuntu 14.04 is Freakin alsome [21:49] darkangel: concerning your compression question, btrfs supports transparent compression [21:50] Heard resently its not stable. But how do u get it? [21:52] its usable but last I used it dpkg was pretty slow on it [21:52] you chose it as filesystem when formating [21:52] ok [21:54] how do u compress it? [21:54] you mount it with some flag and it compresses automatically [21:54] https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Compression [21:55] so what ever files is downloaded into the btrfs file system it compresses it automaticly? [21:55] yes [21:55] alsome [21:56] Linux just keeps getting better and better [21:56] yabout time we catch up with windows xp :) [21:57] yup [21:57] is there any options or Compressing radios u can set for the btrfs file sys? [21:58] only two algorithms I think [21:58] disk utils? [22:09] Can btrfs be a Default Main File system? [22:10] maybe soon [22:10] its still slower than ext4 in many situation [22:10] i c [22:13] darkangel: sure [22:14] used it for 3 years [22:14] it's definitely slower on SSDs [22:14] not that slower on HDD [22:14] i c [22:14] and it has awesome features [22:15] like expand, dedup, snapshot, etc [22:15] So it dont have issues on bein a Main file system like no Serious bugs? [22:15] though expand, snapshot and sort of subvolumes can also be done with lvm [22:16] I did use ZFS 4linux for two cycles [22:16] till my SSD died and I couldn't restore the ZFS partition [22:16] back to ext4 now [22:17] well i might check it out on my HDD wow [22:20] ZFS is very very powerfull [22:20] and it does have more management tools than BTRFS [22:20] but much less well supported by the kernel [22:20] so I can break on kernel updates [22:36] FernandoMiguel, an install on btrfs takes forever.. [22:36] lapion: no idea... haven't done one ine 3 or 4 years [22:36] plus running a brand new SSD, samsung Evo 840 250GBs [22:37] * lapion installed xubuntu with a network install and it took 8 hours.. later had to do a reinstall with ext4 from scratch also from network took 2 to 3 hours.. [22:37] could be a slow network, lapion [22:37] even Wind8 doesn't take that long LOL [22:38] nope FernandoMiguel the ext4 install was including network download.. the btrfs instal was after network download [23:16] I think I had read about issues with btrfs v dpkg [23:19] yes its pretty slow [23:19] but can be worked around with eatmydata [23:28] nod, which frankly probably makes sense if it was tied into taking a btrfs snapshot at the start of a major update and then setting eatmydata [23:28] jtaylor: Why isn't eatmydata set during install anyway - for a fresh install there's no reason to do all the sync's is there? [23:31] last I asked people though --force-unsafe-io is enough [23:32] but someone agreed with me its not and wanted to look into it, don't know if anything happened [23:32] maybe it did, because my last install was pretty fast even without manual eatmydata setup