| cmaloney | https://github.com/landondyer/kasm/blob/master/LICENSE | 01:58 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h_ | heh, well that's a new license | 02:02 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 13:15 |
| jrwren | good morning. | 13:49 |
| rick_h_ | off to hack from peets if they're open. Will work on getting back our CHC room. Wish me luck. | 14:09 |
| trevlar | good luck! | 14:10 |
| trevlar | they are open | 14:10 |
| trevlar | stopped in this morning | 14:10 |
| cmaloney | trevlar: Awesome! | 14:17 |
| jjesse | morning | 14:27 |
| cmaloney | morning | 14:30 |
| rick_h_ | ugh, we're done for here | 14:49 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: What happened? | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | no meeting room? | 14:50 |
| brousch | Trying a new coffee shop? | 14:51 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: no, the room was opened up to the main area and it's additional searting | 14:51 |
| cmaloney | Bah | 14:52 |
| brousch | Bring your own whiteboards as partitions | 14:52 |
| rick_h_ | the table sizes are all pretty small | 14:52 |
| rick_h_ | there's on 'big table' like they used to have out here | 14:52 |
| rick_h_ | though they have fresh roasted beans, so I'll have to start sending cmaloney here to get me coffee beans :P | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | So it'll be a challenge to get the big table | 14:53 |
| rick_h_ | and wtf, first day open and tables are crooked already | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | Are the tables square or round? | 14:53 |
| rick_h_ | mix, looks about half and half | 14:54 |
| cmaloney | OK, so if need be we could improvise | 14:54 |
| rick_h_ | I mean, if no one was here, we could pull together enough square tables, but right now the place is packed and there's no way we could get 4 people together | 14:54 |
| rick_h_ | not sure how it'll be wed nights | 14:54 |
| cmaloney | Well we already know the Starbucks on Woodward is crowded and we've managed | 14:55 |
| rick_h_ | yea, but we've only had 4 people there. I think most folks have stayed away | 14:56 |
| cmaloney | Maybe we could try Peet's on Wed to see if it's any better. | 14:56 |
| rick_h_ | yea, at this point I guess we'll hit it up this week and go from there | 14:56 |
| rick_h_ | but :( | 14:56 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, big :( | 14:56 |
| cmaloney | Did they at least keep the fireplace? | 14:57 |
| rick_h_ | nope | 14:57 |
| brousch | There's always mcdonald's. They have coffee and free wifi | 14:57 |
| cmaloney | bastards | 14:57 |
| rick_h_ | it's totally redone. They took more space for the barista area, smaller tables overall | 14:57 |
| rick_h_ | anyone want to work for my wife's medical practice? Their IT guy is leaving | 14:58 |
| cmaloney | They use Windows right? | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | I'm working on getting a job description | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: yea, lots of windows but the guy had been intereted in pulling some linux in. Not sure what all they run/etc | 14:59 |
| * cmaloney doesn't do Windows. ;) | 14:59 | |
| cmaloney | (if he can help it) | 14:59 |
| rick_h_ | heh, same here | 14:59 |
| rick_h_ | heh, for some reason bzr pull origin master doesn't work :/ | 15:00 |
| cmaloney | wonder if git would handle that better. ;) | 15:00 |
| brousch | Medical software is all Windows | 15:02 |
| brousch | And Windows servers | 15:02 |
| flipsidecreation | hello | 15:03 |
| brousch | haloo? | 15:03 |
| flipsidecreation | heeeelo | 15:04 |
| flipsidecreation | or perhaps a happy monday | 15:04 |
| cmaloney | howdy. | 15:04 |
| flipsidecreation | So I am not liking the new unity as much and I am thinking about my ubuntu to gnome 3 | 15:05 |
| flipsidecreation | should I just run gnome Ubuntu or load 13.10 and just add gnome3 ? | 15:06 |
| brousch | KDE | 15:07 |
| brousch | or XFCE | 15:07 |
| flipsidecreation | but gnome 3 is so pretty! | 15:09 |
| jjesse | KDE rules | 15:09 |
| brousch | Pretty is for Appholes | 15:09 |
| cmaloney | I use Ubuntu 12.04 with pretty much the defaults. | 15:10 |
| flipsidecreation | that is what I am using now on my desktop | 15:10 |
| flipsidecreation | I am annoyed that they removed the F3 spit screen in later versions | 15:10 |
| cmaloney | It took me a little while to get used to it, but there's some quick tweaks you can make to make it nicer. | 15:10 |
| trevlar | rick_h_: are you in the main area or the new back section where there's a piece of paper on the wall that says "mirror goes here" | 15:10 |
| cmaloney | What's that? | 15:10 |
| cmaloney | (The F3 Split Screen) | 15:11 |
| rick_h_ | trevlar: main area by the front door | 15:11 |
| flipsidecreation | the F3 to split the file view, I use it as I transfer files between computers and servers frequently | 15:11 |
| flipsidecreation | in Nautilis | 15:12 |
| cmaloney | flipsidecreation: Ah, I've just used tabs | 15:12 |
| cmaloney | and Nautilus is likely direct from GNOME so you're going to run into the same thing with GNOME 3 | 15:12 |
| infused_ | hello all | 15:13 |
| flipsidecreation | that feature is still in Nautilis GNOME 3, Ubuntu just disabled it in later versions | 15:13 |
| cmaloney | flipsidecreation: Really? That's strange that they'd remove it | 15:13 |
| cmaloney | Doesn't seem to make sense. | 15:13 |
| flipsidecreation | yeah, stupid | 15:13 |
| flipsidecreation | they did not re purpose the F3 for any other use | 15:14 |
| flipsidecreation | and its still in the new Debian | 15:14 |
| cmaloney | http://askubuntu.com/questions/285588/is-there-a-way-to-restore-nautilus-split-screen-f3-feature | 15:14 |
| cmaloney | So perhaps it was added back but not pulled into the later Ubuntu releases. | 15:15 |
| flipsidecreation | " doesn't work well with touch" is a dumb reason | 15:15 |
| cmaloney | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676858 <- That's a GNOME reasoning | 15:16 |
| flipsidecreation | huh, my bad. I thought it was Ubuntu | 15:17 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, unfortunately it's easy to pick on Ubuntu these days | 15:17 |
| cmaloney | but not everything is their fault. :) | 15:17 |
| flipsidecreation | well, at least I can still complain about having to remove the Amazon search lens | 15:17 |
| flipsidecreation | :) | 15:17 |
| cmaloney | Feel free. :) | 15:18 |
| cmaloney | but yeah, I've never used it. I've generally opened two windows. | 15:18 |
| cmaloney | so, I learned something today that'll be deprecated. :) | 15:18 |
| rick_h_ | https://plus.google.com/103632865447092840471/posts/XD3kkUKGSnZ | 15:19 |
| flipsidecreation | I use the Amazon search lens as an argument as to why I run Debian as my servers | 15:19 |
| * rick_h_ throws down the mic | 15:19 | |
| rick_h_ | and walks away | 15:19 |
| rick_h_ | flipsidecreation: really? it's a reason to run debian on a server without any UI or scopes or anything? | 15:19 |
| * rick_h_ must not have had enough coffe yet | 15:20 | |
| rick_h_ | clearly not if I can't spell coffee today ugh | 15:20 |
| cmaloney | Do not poke happy fun rick_h_ | 15:20 |
| rick_h_ | widox_: I'm getting angry at FF again, curse this stupid tool | 15:20 |
| flipsidecreation | servers don't need GUI | 15:20 |
| rick_h_ | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/1074/ wtf is the error again? | 15:21 |
| rick_h_ | flipsidecreation: kind of my point, so what's the rational you're selling on the AWS search scope being a reason to run debian on a server? | 15:21 |
| jjesse | umm why wouldn't you run ubuntu server than | 15:22 |
| jjesse | this seems like a dumb arguement | 15:22 |
| rick_h_ | jjesse: that's why I'm confused | 15:23 |
| flipsidecreation | doesn't Ubuntu server have the same shopping lens in the GUI? | 15:23 |
| jjesse | sorry that might be a bit mean but if you are running a GUI less server than there would be no scopesat all | 15:23 |
| jjesse | flipsidecreation: only if you install ubuntu-desktop | 15:23 |
| jjesse | on the server | 15:23 |
| cmaloney | Ubuntu Server doesn't ship with any gui utilities | 15:23 |
| flipsidecreation | then i stand corrected | 15:24 |
| flipsidecreation | I thought server came with GUI | 15:24 |
| cmaloney | np. Just seems like an awful lot of baby to throw out. :) | 15:24 |
| jjesse | sorry for the "dumb" comment | 15:24 |
| jjesse | when you do an install of Ubuntu Server there are no tools installed | 15:25 |
| cmaloney | no "gui" tools. | 15:25 |
| flipsidecreation | I have been using Debian since about 2003 when i switched from Redhat. I change slwo | 15:25 |
| rick_h_ | rather a bit like a debian install :P | 15:25 |
| cmaloney | That's fine. If you have need for Debian then go with it | 15:25 |
| rick_h_ | /install/server install | 15:25 |
| cmaloney | but if you like the Ubuntu flavoring save for the lenses then Ubuntu Server will do the trick., | 15:26 |
| rick_h_ | just please watch the FUD, there's more than enough for all of us going around these days. | 15:26 |
| flipsidecreation | I try not to add to the FUD | 15:26 |
| jjesse | I heard the reason there are no more unicorns is because Mark killed them all :) | 15:27 |
| rick_h_ | we at ubuntu clearly believe in a unicorn-free world | 15:27 |
| rick_h_ | those damn hopping things only distracted from a pure user experience | 15:27 |
| jjesse | umm totally you notice no release has ever had the word unicorn in it | 15:27 |
| flipsidecreation | and on that note, one of my clients was getting pitched by another IT company who told them because they used open source they were at HUGE risk! | 15:27 |
| rick_h_ | and kept us from making a ton of $$$$ | 15:27 |
| flipsidecreation | they even went as far to say other companies might not want to do business with them because they used open source software | 15:28 |
| rick_h_ | yep, seems to be killing amazon, google, facebook, github, ... | 15:29 |
| rick_h_ | poor companies dealing in OSS have no hope to stick around or eek out a living | 15:29 |
| flipsidecreation | The IT company doing the sales pitch loves Microsoft and big service contracts. | 15:30 |
| cmaloney | Of course they do | 15:30 |
| flipsidecreation | My client politely showed them to the door | 15:30 |
| cmaloney | there's money to be made in prolonging the problem. ;) | 15:30 |
| flipsidecreation | yup | 15:31 |
| flipsidecreation | They said the open source firewall was a HUGE risk | 15:31 |
| brousch | You can install any GUI tools you want into Ubuntu server after install | 15:34 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yes, but that's not the point :) | 15:34 |
| flipsidecreation | I have a new server to build, I will have to give Ubuntu server a good look :) | 15:35 |
| brousch | All of my servers are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | 15:37 |
| flipsidecreation | any issues? | 15:37 |
| brousch | None | 15:39 |
| flipsidecreation | nice | 15:39 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: want to move out to the cool side of the state and run IT for my wife's medical practice? :) | 15:39 |
| brousch | ew | 15:39 |
| brousch | No Windows servers for me | 15:39 |
| brousch | They have a full time IT guy? | 15:40 |
| flipsidecreation | but fixing windows servers is how I make a living! | 15:40 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yea, it's a big practice | 15:40 |
| brousch | flipsidecreation: Where are you located? | 15:40 |
| flipsidecreation | Taylor MI | 15:40 |
| brousch | rick_h_: And since when is Detroit "the cool side"? | 15:40 |
| brousch | Maybe in 1975 | 15:41 |
| jjesse | yeah who died and made detroit cool | 15:41 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: :) | 15:41 |
| flipsidecreation | I thought Detroit was cool back in the 1950's | 15:42 |
| brousch | Everything I read says Detroit is a crime-ridden corrupt food desert cesspool | 15:42 |
| flipsidecreation | not all of Detroit is like that | 15:43 |
| brousch | Where as my side gets a new "Top 10 for <good thing>" award every month | 15:43 |
| flipsidecreation | brousch: where are you from? | 15:44 |
| brousch | Grand Rapids | 15:44 |
| brousch | rick_h_: Taylor is in Detroit. You should hire flipsidecreation | 15:45 |
| flipsidecreation | brousch: I agree, Grand Rapis is > Detroit | 15:45 |
| brousch | We just had a really good givecamp last weekend | 15:46 |
| flipsidecreation | I would move but I have my business and family here | 15:46 |
| brousch | Move them too. Grand Rapids is top 10 for places to raise a family and for employment | 15:47 |
| flipsidecreation | I know, but it might difficult moving my ex-wife unless I pay for it. | 15:48 |
| brousch | Actually we do need more Linux contractors here. They are hard to find since everyone is gainfully employed | 15:48 |
| flipsidecreation | certainly something to think about. | 15:50 |
| brousch | If you live on the east side of GR, it's about a 2 hour drive to Taylor | 15:52 |
| flipsidecreation | but I only have an 13 minute drive now | 15:52 |
| brousch | Just saying. Not too bad ;) | 15:53 |
| rick_h_ | someone take my internet away today before I do real damage | 15:53 |
| brousch | what's your ip address? | 15:53 |
| rick_h_ | 70.194.6.116 | 15:54 |
| brousch | You want it removed via DDOS or pedophile report? | 15:54 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: hmm, DDOS probably better kthx | 15:55 |
| brousch | OK, I'm posting to slashdot about how you are personally responsible for mir and unity | 15:57 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: rgr, thanks | 15:58 |
| brousch | rick_h_: What is setting you off today? | 16:01 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: the world I think | 16:01 |
| brousch | Is it coffee house rage? | 16:02 |
| flipsidecreation | perhaps its just Monday | 16:02 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: FF extesion dev, the coffee shop fubar'ing CHC, the whole AMZ scope ubuntu crap, and general monday'ness I think | 16:02 |
| brousch | flipsidecreation: Are you saying rick_h_ has a case of the Mondays? | 16:02 |
| flipsidecreation | perhaps, they are contagious | 16:02 |
| rick_h_ | and annoying people https://plus.google.com/106169754790060033027/posts/hBzcB42wXqa | 16:03 |
| brousch | rick_h_: Bookie FF extension? | 16:03 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: trying, waf and widox_ have each gotten bits working and I REALLY want to make it work | 16:03 |
| flipsidecreation | There are a lot of F-Bombs being dropped on twitter http://www.fbomb.co/ | 16:03 |
| rick_h_ | but damn if FF doesn't just try to enrage me | 16:03 |
| rick_h_ | flipsidecreation: congrats? | 16:03 |
| flipsidecreation | rick_h_: ? | 16:04 |
| rick_h_ | flipsidecreation: about the f-bombs. I'm not sure how to reply to that. Came a bit out of left field? Or was that a demo of cranky mondays? | 16:04 |
| brousch | Hm, I was hoping for a graph of fbombs over time showing that there are more on Mondays than other days | 16:04 |
| flipsidecreation | it was a reference to how cranky people are on Monday | 16:05 |
| flipsidecreation | I found the site yesterday and it did not look like the war zone that is today | 16:07 |
| rick_h_ | yay it works kinda | 16:23 |
| brousch | rick_h_: Can I endorse you on linkedin for Firefox Extension skills now? | 16:24 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: no, never ever | 16:24 |
| * brousch looks for 'PHP linting' among the skills | 16:29 | |
| rick_h_ | heh | 16:30 |
| rick_h_ | ok, coffee shop time done. back to the house | 16:30 |
| cmaloney | https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mQ5oIMCDUoU/UoERaCFFDpI/AAAAAAAAZEo/kjbGw1kHzg8/w452-h426-no/10+11+2013+-+1.jpg | 17:31 |
| cmaloney | for rick_h_ ^ | 17:31 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: :P | 17:38 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| rick_h_ | greg-g: ping | 19:00 |
| rick_h_ | booo, firefox extension won't load on mobile | 19:26 |
| brousch | Get a real web browser! | 19:33 |
| rick_h_ | widox_: merged in the work you did and some tweaks and updated the readme/etc. I've published an alpha xpi and added it to the readme. | 19:34 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: hit up the readme if you feel like almost having a bookie extension :) https://github.com/bookieio/bookie-firefox | 19:35 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: saving a bookmark works once you've setup your preferences but barely and needs a lot of work still | 19:35 |
| brousch | Is greg-g a mozilla user? | 19:41 |
| cmaloney | I'm not sure I know why I sold this KLF album, but I'm glad I have it. | 19:48 |
| cmaloney | http://www.last.fm/user/squeekyhoho | 19:49 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: umm yea | 19:57 |
| cmaloney | Fuck, there's snow outside. | 21:08 |
| brousch | I disbelieve | 21:10 |
| brousch | It will melt before 5 | 21:11 |
| brousch | purdy http://regebro.github.io/hovercraft/#/step-1 | 21:36 |
| greg-g | brousch: iceweasel, I guess actually :) | 21:44 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: give it a try if you get a few min. Will work on it some more tomorrow at MUG and probably Wed at CHC | 22:12 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: so will update as we go | 22:12 |
| greg-g | cool, probably tonight (in the middle of install ipkg on my synology nas) | 22:26 |
| greg-g | aka: voiding my warranty | 22:27 |
| cmaloney | heh | 22:27 |
| cmaloney | Installing Squeezebox? | 22:27 |
| greg-g | I want screen | 22:27 |
| greg-g | it has a squeezebox app... | 22:27 |
| greg-g | like, a legit one | 22:27 |
| cmaloney | :-D | 22:27 |
| greg-g | what you linked to before | 22:28 |
| greg-g | I want to be able to have a screen session | 22:28 |
| greg-g | for rsync and such | 22:28 |
| greg-g | ya know, data stuffsorz | 22:28 |
| cmaloney | I didn't know it had a proper Squeezebox app | 22:28 |
| cmaloney | thought it was something community supported. | 22:28 |
| greg-g | ah, no, totally in the 'main'/default sources | 22:30 |
| cmaloney | nice | 22:30 |
| cmaloney | did you set that up yet? | 22:30 |
| greg-g | I added one of the popular community repos, and man, just stuff for usenet downloarder | 22:30 |
| greg-g | downloarders? heh | 22:30 |
| cmaloney | That's a syllogism for dlwonload hoarders. ;) | 22:30 |
| cmaloney | download even | 22:30 |
| greg-g | no, not yet, top priority is still making backups of photos/videos | 22:31 |
| cmaloney | God, I hate when I do stupid things that take all day to undo | 22:32 |
| cmaloney | like, for instance, putting my dictionary init outside of my loop | 22:32 |
| cmaloney | Thank goodness for testing. | 22:33 |
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