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Kiloshi Squirm and others05:14
Kilosmorning nlsthzn 05:19
nlsthznalo uncle Kilos :)05:19
Kiloswow they got even 4tb drives out now seagate has05:43
Kilosfor 2k at makro05:43
kbmonkeymorning all05:53
Kilosmorning kbmonkey 05:53
kbmonkeyfeel sick today Kilos. first time this year05:54
Kilosaw sorry man05:54
Kilosi still got yesterdays head as well, time to remove it methinks05:55
kbmonkeyit not too bad. sore throat and paining sinus, brain seems to be all right. no sign of zombification yet.05:55
Kiloslol05:55
kbmonkeylol05:55
Kilosafter my rest yesterday avy i started 13.10 kde and the drive had crashed05:56
* Kilos cries05:56
Kiloswas so lekker too05:56
Kilosnothing on screen and wouldnt take any os even xp05:57
Kilosserious bad blocks in mbr and boot area methinks05:57
kbmonkeysorry 05:57
Kilosnp i got unity running kiff still05:58
kbmonkeyhow old is the drive may I ask?05:58
kbmonkeythey have a lifespan of 5-10 years05:58
Kilosits a discard from one of ians clients that i did data recovery on then got it going again05:59
kbmonkeyI had disks that were 15 years and still worked05:59
kbmonkeythey don't make them like they used to05:59
Kilosyeah05:59
Kilosi will fight it today sometime. shoulda left 12.04 kde on it, ran kiff for months06:00
Kilosbut 13.10 was really good06:00
Kilosthey clever the kde peeps06:02
Kiloshow did they get a 1.1g iso to install in half the time a 733m iso does06:02
kbmonkeykilos you should format the dis and frun fsck on it to find bad blocks before installing OS06:05
kbmonkeyjyou probably did that and told you how many blocks are bad06:06
Kilosya but them how do you install to the whole drive because it formats everything so bad blocks are used again06:06
Kilosdisk utility said a few bad blocks06:06
kbmonkeysee there is a badblocks program06:07
Kilosoften one can install win to use up the bad block area06:07
Kilosyes i have them all06:07
Kilosbut with linux you have to save the bad block record somewhere06:08
kbmonkeyokay I must go work now. ciao man06:08
kbmonkeygood luck!06:08
Kilosty havva good day lad06:08
ThatGraemeGuymornings06:16
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 06:17
Kilosbbl06:25
Squirmmorning06:43
nlsthznalo06:43
* nlsthzn just got dual monitors to work in native resolutions in Linux for the first time ever... still now sure how I got it to work but work it does :D06:53
superflynlsthzn: um, OK. I've had them working for years07:02
gwoodfordhey everyone07:02
superflyhi gwoodford07:03
nlsthznwell I have not had that luck now for a long long time... just to get my main display to be able to go native was one heck of a work around until I finally found a edid file someone had been able to make successfully so even to have one working display was a PITA 07:04
nlsthznnow if only synapse wouldn't look so ugly... something went wrong after getting the second screen goign :/07:04
superflynlsthzn: what hardware do you have, are you trying to use Mir? :-P07:04
nlsthznnah not brave enough for that07:04
nlsthznnvidia card with a 21" and a 15" screen...07:05
nlsthznI broke x a few times now and finally everything just works... xorg.conf is a mess but ya ;P07:05
superflyat work I have dual 23" with Intel, and at home I have 23" and 17" (or is it 19") with nVidia07:05
superflyno hassles ever07:05
gwoodfordI've got a questions, I'm running 12.04 Ubuntu on my Acer Aspire S3 laptop, there seems to have been a regression in the last linux kernel update, the suspend functionality now semi bricks my laptop, the screen gets messed up after resuming, wierd resolution/splitting/colors which persist even after rebooting, even in bios. Only fix is to shutdown for a few minutes are hard reset the battery. This only happens with the latest 07:06
gwoodfordI've got a questions, I'm running 12.04 Ubuntu on my Acer Aspire S3 laptop, there seems to have been a regression in the last linux kernel update, the suspend functionality now semi bricks my laptop, the screen gets messed up after resuming, wierd resolution/splitting/colors which persist even after rebooting, even in bios. Only fix is to shutdown for a few minutes are hard reset the battery. This only happens with the latest 07:06
gwoodfordI've got a questions, I'm running 12.04 Ubuntu on my Acer Aspire S3 laptop, there seems to have been a regression in the last linux kernel update, the suspend functionality now semi bricks my laptop, the screen gets messed up after resuming, wierd resolution/splitting/colors which persist even after rebooting, even in bios. Only fix is to shutdown for a few minutes are hard reset the battery. This only happens with the latest 07:06
superflygwoodford: we got you the first time07:06
nlsthznmy 21" doesn't give the correct resolution info and doesn't initialize on most so always annoying :p07:06
superflynlsthzn: ah. get a real screen :-P07:07
nlsthznlol :)07:07
nlsthznnow working now happy :p07:07
gwoodfordi'm going to log it on launchpad, but was just wondering if anyone has had similar issues?07:11
gwoodfordi'm going to log it on launchpad, but was just wondering if anyone has had similar issues?07:11
gwoodfordi'm going to log it on launchpad, but was just wondering if anyone has had similar issues?07:11
bdukGood morning everyone07:12
superflygwoodford: have you thought about upgrading? (and please stop typing everything 3 times)07:12
nlsthznecho echo echo07:13
nlsthznany idea what could be wrong if you loose transparency in Xubuntu?07:18
gwoodfordsuperfly: i'm only typing in stuff one, not sure why it is being sent 3 times07:19
gwoodfordsuperfly: i'm only typing in stuff one, not sure why it is being sent 3 times07:19
gwoodfordsuperfly: i'm only typing in stuff one, not sure why it is being sent 3 times07:19
superfly-_-07:19
gwoodfordsuperfly: upgrade, ubuntu or linux? I'm wanting to stay with LTS07:20
superflyhrmph07:21
superflygwoodford: there's no real reason to stay on LTS on a desktop07:22
gwoodfordsuperfly: is it still sending 3 times now07:22
superflyit seems not07:22
gwoodfordsuperfly: suppose i'll have to upgrade07:24
gwoodfordsuperfly: what ubuntu version are you running?07:25
gwoodfordsuperfly: what ubuntu version are you running?07:25
gwoodfordsuperfly: what ubuntu version are you running?07:25
* nlsthzn broke compositing in Xubuntu :'(07:29
superflygwoodford: I use Debian, but the last version of Ubuntu I used was 13.0407:34
gwoodfordsuperfly: i've been thinking of jumping off the deep end and install Gentoo, i really want to learn as much as possible, but I imagine it will hurt07:41
superflygwoodford: if you want to learn a lot, try Arch.07:42
superflygwoodford: it's compiled, but you still have to install everything from scratch07:42
nlsthznif you want to learn how to read and use a wiki install arch :p07:42
gwoodfordsuperfly: i've heard of Arch, but i want to compile the whole think from scratch at least once in my life :)07:43
superflygwoodford: I don't have the time to waste compiling everything from scratch. If you're young and wild, go ahead. I have more importan things to do with my time ;-)07:44
gwoodfordsuperfly: sigh, not that young, nearly 30, well i've been playing around with Linux From Scratch in a virtual machine, but looks like the whole thing will take me a whole day, i'll do a bit gradually every day, might be done in a week :'(07:47
gwoodfordsuperfly: sigh, not that young, nearly 30, well i've been playing around with Linux From Scratch in a virtual machine, but looks like the whole thing will take me a whole day, i'll do a bit gradually every day, might be done in a week :'(07:47
gwoodfordsuperfly: sigh, not that young, nearly 30, well i've been playing around with Linux From Scratch in a virtual machine, but looks like the whole thing will take me a whole day, i'll do a bit gradually every day, might be done in a week :'(07:47
superflygwoodford: you're still younger than me :-P07:48
nlsthznLFS in one day sounds impressive to me 07:49
inetprogood mornings07:51
nlsthzninetpro, alo07:54
* nlsthzn has compositing working again... because he actually read his whole xorg.conf and saw one line that actually was disabling it for some reason >.<09:06
psyatwhi nlsthzn09:07
psyatwhaha09:07
nlsthznalo psyatw :) yes I fail at linux :p09:07
nlsthznnext mission, optimize ffmpeg so that the games I am trying to record doesn't have there sound go out of sync from the start :/09:08
psyatwwell, messing with xorg.conf shouldn´t really be needed anymore09:09
nlsthzndual screen, lots of issues with wrong edid info etc. etc...09:10
psyatwyes09:10
psyatwit´s something that should work out of the box these days09:10
psyatwbut it still doesn´t09:10
nlsthznagreed... for many it does however...09:10
psyatwhave you tried submitting your system info to the xorg developers?09:11
psyatwhi Trixar_za09:11
nlsthznnope I haven't09:12
Trixar_zaHi psyatw09:21
Squirmabout 10min ago09:24
SquirmI almost dropped a friend of mines brand new Note 309:24
Squirmmy heart is still pounding09:24
Squirmand I feel light headed09:24
Trixar_zaYeah, but I only connected around when I answered09:24
Trixar_za:P09:24
nlsthznouch... that would have sucked Squirm 09:25
nlsthznreminds me of the youtube vid where the guy opens his new iphone and his friends comes and smashes it with a hammer :p09:26
psyatw:D09:27
nlsthznairdroid <309:30
psyatwI´ve heard very good things about it09:32
psyatwbut never tried it myself09:32
psyatwon my two-year old phone09:32
nlsthznit is very good :)09:32
psyatw:)09:33
charlgood morning09:42
charlMaaz: coffee on09:42
* Maaz washes some mugs09:42
charlhi Squirm, Trixar_za, psyatw, nlsthzn 09:42
Trixar_zaHey charl09:43
charlhow's it going09:43
psyatwhi cha09:43
psyatwhmm09:43
psyatwhi charl09:43
Squirmbbiab09:45
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!09:46
* Squirm looks around10:00
charlMaaz: thanks10:03
Maazcharl: Sure10:03
charlinteresting to read about canonical and cloudfoundry10:05
charllooks very promising, paas is getting big now10:05
KilosMaaz: coffee on10:07
* Maaz starts grinding coffee10:07
charlhi Kilos 10:07
Kiloshi everyone, coffee time10:07
charli'll have another cup too10:08
Kiloshi charl10:08
charlMaaz: coffee please10:08
Maazcharl: Righto10:08
charlKilos: how's it going? you doing better?10:08
Kilosjust fixed my drive that crashed with 13.10 kde10:08
Kilosback to 12.04 kde on it10:08
charlyour drive crashed?10:08
Kiloswhat a job, even had to go as far as using win 98 to run fdisk /mbr then xp to run fixmbr and fixboot10:09
Kilosya my 13.10 kde one10:09
Kiloswent dead10:09
Kilosnow all be kiff again10:10
Kiloshead a bit better today ty10:10
Kiloshi superfly 10:11
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos and charl!10:11
KilosMaaz: ty10:12
MaazYou are welcome Kilos10:12
Kilosaw need to find my bloep again10:12
charlMaaz: thanks (again)10:15
Maazcharl: not at all10:15
charli found a nice way to compare file contents between two hosts to see which files changed and which did not10:22
charlhandy for backups etc10:22
charlssh remote-server 'md5sum Mail/*' | md5sum -c -10:22
charlworks brilliantly10:22
charlcompares all the contents in the remote mail directory to the local one10:22
Kiloscool10:22
charlvery cool indeed10:23
Kilossimilar to what rsync does?10:23
charlit doesn't actually sync anything, and rsync doesn't use hashes as far as i know10:24
Kiloslike rsyncing /home/ to an external or so?10:24
charlrsync compares on file sizes etc, and unless you run it in dry mode, it will also actually copy the files across10:24
charlfile sizes and modification dates i think10:24
charlthis will compare the actual md5 hashes of files but won't do any copying10:25
Kilosi use rsync -av and it only copies what isnt there or been added to i think10:25
charli think that should also copy modified files10:25
Kilosya i think so10:25
charlsometimes i just want to know what has or hasn't changed without any risk of accidentally copying files across10:26
Kilosdid clean install here and used 20 m update and nothing to upgrade everything10:26
charlso this feels like the safest solution10:26
Kilosya it looks good10:26
Kilosfrom what you say it does10:27
charland md5sum is so fast it should even work for fairly large files10:27
charli collect cool ssh tricks over time :) openssh is super versatile10:27
charlok back to work... bbl10:28
Squirmssh is cool10:37
inetprocharl: "rsync -c" does skip based on checksum, not mod-time & size10:51
* inetpro often uses rsync -crvtn10:51
charlinetpro: thanks, didn't know that11:06
Kiloshmm... i need to install a .tar file in 12.04  but the fly gonna fight me13:55
Kilosbut i need this thing13:56
Kiloshttp://code-industry.net/get.pdfeditor.php13:56
Kilosin software centre the install button aint there13:56
Kilosi just installed checkinstall14:01
Kiloswill see from there14:01
Kilosah it installs from software centre but you gotta click the buy button then enter ubuntuone info14:14
Kilossigh14:14
nlsthznuse launchpad info...14:15
KilosCoh my14:24
nlsthznor not :p14:24
Kiloskinda weird buying something that shows $0.014:24
nlsthzn::)14:25
Kiloshahaha14:25
Kilosbut i dunno why it has to tie into ubuntuone14:25
nlsthznubuntuone and laucnhpad share the same log in... the SSO so if you have the one you already have the other... plus Canonical is using ubuntu one kind of the place to centralize all the stuff we buy online from them... like music or apps etc:14:28
Kilosah14:36
Kiloseish that thing is just as hard to use as office writer14:42
nlsthzneverything is difficult until it becomes easy14:55
Kiloshahaha cheeky14:55
Kilosbbl storm close here15:33
Kiloshmm... big noise no water. sigh16:09
charlwb Kilos 16:19
Kilosty charl 16:19
Kiloshi superfly 18:02
Kilosyo inetpro kom of gaan dit18:02
superflyhi Kilos18:02
Kilosbig storm here. wbb18:18
theblazehenIs Kilos in JHB?18:23
inetprotheblazehen: no, he's in Pretoria18:36
inetprogood evening18:37
Kiloshmm... big boom booms and a bit of rain19:31
theblazehenKilos: any hail by you?19:32
Kilosnope19:33
Kiloshow did the first exam go theblazehen 19:34
theblazehenKilos: went well, physics exam, expecting around 8-%19:34
theblazehen80% *19:34
Kiloscool19:34
theblazehenYep :) AP Math tomorrow..19:34
theblazehenAdvanced Program19:35
Kiloswhat ap math19:35
Kiloswhats19:35
Kilosoh19:35
Kilosnever heard of that19:35
theblazehenAh ok, think it's kinda new19:35
inetprowb Kilos19:37
theblazehenhi inetpro19:37
Kilosty inetpro did you get some water?19:37
inetproyep, but not a lot19:38
Kilosya same i think under 5mm19:38
Kilosbut still chance of more tonight and tomorrow19:38
inetpromight me just a bit more 19:38
inetpronot sure19:38
inetprohow's the head?19:39
Kilostoo dark now to go see ill let you know morrow19:39
Kilosmuch better ty19:39
Kilosyou will laugh at me19:39
inetprohoekom?19:39
Kilosmany6 1000's gauss magnet with north pole to the back of head19:40
Kilossupposed to be 3000 but i always over do things19:41
inetprohuh?19:41
Kiloshaha19:41
inetpromany6 1000's gauss magnet?19:41
Kilosnorth is antibiotic19:41
inetprowhat is many6?19:41
Kilosstrenth is measured in gauss19:41
Kilosmaybe 6 or 800019:42
Kilossis forgets19:42
Kilosoh the 6 was a typo man19:42
inetprooh19:42
inetprosounds interesting19:43
Kiloswe are creatures of electricity and magnetism19:43
inetprojust don't short yourself19:44
Kiloshaha no man my sis wrote a book about healing with magnets19:44
inetprocool19:44
inetprowell if it helps it's great19:45
Kilosonly she fights me because i use the ones for making magnetic/oils and waters and stuff on me19:45
inetprosjoe19:45
Kilossposed to use the small ones on yourself 19:45
Kilosya but she dont know how bad the head gets man19:46
Kilosim sure its worse than migraines19:46
inetproyou should be used to them by now man19:47
* inetpro doesn't get the migraines often but ehrn they come they are deadly19:48
Kilosive forgotten to use the things for years and yesterday i kicked my toe on one and thought lets give it a go again19:48
inetprowhen they come*19:48
inetproai!19:48
inetprosounds like you have a short somewhere in the body19:49
inetproleaking electronics19:49
Kilosthis is actually a stupid pain because it starts where the hole was inna head then spreads across back of head then pulls the mastoids and top of spine inna crunchy19:49
Kiloshahaha19:49
Kilosshe used to sell books and magnets to peeps and treat others here19:50
inetprowhy did she stop?19:51
Kilosbut most peeps rather make doctors rich so she got a job19:51
inetprohmm19:51
Kilosshe still has some books and magnets in store somewhere i think19:51
Kilosshe spend years researching it19:52
Kilosnow they sell magnets in shoe soles and all kinds of other things19:52
inetproand you only remembered when you kicked your toe?19:52
inetproai!19:52
Kiloshaha ya19:52
inetprothe toe probably still hurting19:53
Kilosit doesnt kill all the pain but gets it back to managable and releases the muscles that cause the mastoids and neck to cunch me19:54
Kiloslol19:54
inetprocool19:54
inetpronext time go kick your toe earlier on something to juggle the memory19:58
Kilossjoe meneer boek19:59
Kilosno ill wait for you to remind me19:59
inetproboek?19:59
Kilosya the one she wrote19:59
inetproahh20:00
Kilosshe studied lots of alternative healing things and meds20:00
Kilosand i learned how to doctor animals20:01
Kilosin my own time20:01
Kiloslekker with animals , if you wrong and they die you say oops and no tears20:01
Kilosoh my power went20:24
Kilosnight all. sleep lekker. see ya morrow20:29
inetproai!20:29
Kiloswhat?20:30
* inetpro fell off the interwebs20:30
Kiloslol jy en ai!20:30
Kilosya me too man20:30
superflythere are interwebs?20:30
inetprosuperfly: hi20:30
superflyhi20:31
inetpro8ta must have been down here for a minute or three20:31
inetproKilos: goeie nag oom20:31
Kilosya mine died 22 and then power went20:32
Kilosnight20:32
superfly"down here" inetpro?20:33
inetproboth me and kilos are on 8ta20:33
superflyyeah, but the "down here" caught me20:33
superflyit usually refers to Cape Town20:34
inetprohmm...20:34
superflyinetpro: meeting tomorrow?20:34
inetprosuperfly: meeting?20:34
* superfly might have been thinking of something else20:35
* inetpro was talking about downtime20:35
superflyoh20:36
superflynow I see20:36
* superfly is in another world at the moment20:36
inetpronp20:37

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