[00:00] <bekks> hittt: technically, it looks like this: you have no disk space free actually, since you have (in sum) those much and those big files, that your free space ic oocupied.
[00:01] <hittt> bekks, but i cant locate them, my home folder only accounts for 16 GB's and the rest are small files (i dont know how hidden files get treated in this case)
[00:01] <bekks> hittt: The solution is: delete as much big files as possible. First approach: sudo apt-get autoclean; sudo apt-get autoremove; -- BE CAREFULL, since it MAY (the second command) delete stuff you dont want to be deleted.
[00:02] <bekks> hittt: run and pastebin the following: df -sh --max-depth=1 /
[00:03] <hittt> -s?
[00:04] <scipi0> Please.
[00:04] <scipi0> Help.
[00:05] <hittt> my df doesnt seem to have a -s argument :S
[00:05] <scipi0> I'm scared
[00:05] <hittt> !ask | scipi0
[00:05] <bekks> hittt: huh?
[00:05] <hittt> df: invalid option -- 's'
[00:05] <bekks> hittt: Pastebin the entire output of the commands above - AS you entered them
[00:05] <folsto> Hello, I have been trying Ubuntu and other linux based distros for a couple of months now, everytime I install one I tend to go back to restoring Windows 8 the laptop came with. The issue is that when I install Ubuntu or any other linux distro the ssd tends to get way hotter, almost the same as the cpu itself which btw also tends to get hotter than in windows 8.
[00:06] <folsto> The SSD is a Corsair Force 3 SSD 256 GB, any ideas as to what might be the reason
[00:06] <bekks> folsto: And whats the issue then?
[00:06] <scipi0> okay, ubottu. Hi, my upgrade to 13.10 just went bad. I used the software updater to update and I was in the "installing packages" mode when the window went dark and unresponsive. I quit it and went to open up the software updater when it informed me that I can only perform a partial update. I select to do this and it does nothing. I am updating from 13.04 using intel with a dual-boot with...
[00:06] <scipi0> ...12.04. I am using the 13.04. Please help
[00:07] <folsto> bekks: In short the SSD is way hotter than even a traditional hdd could be and also cpu gets a bit hotter, and I am concerned it would reduce the life of the laptop in future far quicker
[00:07] <selekta> hello! I was wondering if someone could help me with installing my cisco ae23500 USB network card.
[00:08] <bekks> folsto: "hotter than a hdd can be"?
[00:08] <selekta> I googled it but the tutorial seemed extremely difficult to me
[00:09] <folsto> bekks: as i understand ssds tend to be a lot cooler than spinning disk hdd's, and in this case the ssd is lot hotter.
[00:09] <hittt> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6396918/
[00:10] <bekks> folsto: nothing at all indicate that ssd are to be a lot cooler than hdd.
[00:11] <BvL> scipi0: so your dual booting 12.04 & 13.04 - and you are trying up update 13.04 to 13.10 but the update failed
[00:11] <selekta> can someone help me please?
[00:11] <selekta> I need to know how to enable graphical sudo so I can drop a tarball in \usr\src
[00:12] <bekks> selekta: gksudo
[00:12] <hittt> gksudo
[00:12] <BvL> sudo apt-get install gksu
[00:12] <BvL> gksu is no-longer installed default
[00:13] <selekta> i ran it
[00:13] <selekta> and it wont let me drag and drop this
[00:14] <SchrodingersScat> selekta: what did you gksudo into?
[00:14] <selekta> nothing
[00:14] <selekta> I have no idea what im doing
[00:14] <BvL> once sec
[00:14] <BvL> you want to do it graphically
[00:14] <folsto> bekks: to put it another way, I just checked the temps of cpu its 69 C and when put my hand below the cpu area and the ssd area, both feel like are at the same temperature, whereas in windows 8 the temps are about 60-65 C. Is this normal on Ubuntu?
[00:14] <selekta> im trying to install a driver I guess so I can use my cisco wireless network usb car and it wants me to do a bunch of crazy stuff
[00:14] <SchrodingersScat> selekta: you can try a 'gksudo nautilus' and it'll bring up a root nautilus, oh dear be careful though
[00:14] <folsto> bekks: using lm-sensors
[00:14] <selekta> If someone could help me I have VNC
[00:15] <selekta> or teamviewer
[00:15] <scipi0> BvL: Yes.
[00:15] <bekks> folsto: I stringly doubt you feel the difference of 4 degrees with you hand - above 43 degrees, which will actually burn your hand.
[00:15] <BvL> gksudo nautilus gksu nautilus \usr\src
[00:15] <bekks> *strongly
[00:16] <hittt> folsto: sometimes the CPU might be actually overheating due to poor thermoconductivity (Aka the thermodynamic gum needs replacement)
[00:16] <rawfodog> Hi, Im using a 32 bit program on a 64bit xubuntu install. I'm missing libasound 32 bit. What do I type to install it ?
[00:16] <rawfodog> will downloading the 32 bit version break anything ?
[00:16] <folsto> bekks:  btw  I forgot to mention I don't feel any heat at all below ssd on windows, its only in Ubuntu thst the ssd tend to feel like at the same temp as the cpu
[00:17] <hittt> rawfodog: no, 32 bit programs work well on 64 bit platforms
[00:17] <selekta> that worked BvL !
[00:17] <hittt> s/programs/anything/
[00:17] <rawfodog> hittt, Im missing the 32bit lib to run this
[00:17] <Rory> rawfodog: What are you doing that requires that lib?
[00:17] <folsto> hittt: I think the temps are fine since its an i7 quad core , its the ssd temps that I am concerned with
[00:17] <BvL> scipi0, first just to be sure did you backup any important information
[00:17] <rawfodog> Installing Renoise
[00:18] <scipi0> BvL; no :( . I'm kinda stupid in that way
[00:18] <selekta> im trying to run these commands but its not working
[00:18] <Rory> rawfodog: You're installing the 32 bit version? Why? They provide a 64 bit version
[00:18] <rawfodog> 64bit is buggy isnt it ?
[00:19] <rawfodog> here is an ldd of renoise on my comp ...
[00:19] <rawfodog> http://pastebin.com/RrSctXJD
[00:19] <selekta> I placed the tarball in /usr/src and now im trying to run tar -xvf ndiswrapper-xxx but it doesnt work
[00:19] <Rory> rawfodog: I recommend using their 64 bit version it is no more buggy and they recommend it for 64 bit systems
[00:19] <Rory> rawfodog: "If you rarely or never use plugins, and have a 64-bit OS, go for the 64-bit version of Renoise as well. The 64-bit version can use more than 4 GB of memory and will perform a little better."
[00:19] <rawfodog> k thanks Rory
[00:19] <hittt> folsto: You arent getting a good reading with your hand, the computer gets the reading from a much better position, the ssd should be around 40-50 C
[00:19] <rawfodog> ok great thanks
[00:20] <selekta> BvL, can you help me for a moment please?
[00:20] <BvL> scipi0, i usually nuke and repave so i dont know how much help
[00:20] <BvL> scipi0, so first are you currently booted on 12.04 or 13.04
[00:21] <maujhsn> Hello...In my /home  folder what items are deletable in/.cache?
[00:21] <BvL> selekta, ill try
[00:21] <selekta> bvl thank you
[00:21] <selekta> I placed the tarball in /usr/src and now im trying to run tar -xvf ndiswrapper-xxx but it doesnt work
[00:21] <BvL> selekta, just type a question or if you are following a guide could you give me a link plz
[00:21] <scipi0> Bvl: Well.... I still am on the 13.04, It's working okay. Could you show me some resources to back up quickly
[00:22] <scipi0> wait, nevermind. I forgot, Bvl, sudo is broke
[00:22] <selekta> BvL, http://tinymelinux.com/forum/thread-865-post-3760.html#pid3760  here is the guide
[00:22] <N|onDell320> Hello
[00:22] <selekta> the tarball is in usr/src now
[00:22] <scipi0> *BvL
[00:22] <reisio> maujhsn: pretty much everything, but you might try just mv'ing it first
[00:22] <selekta> and im cd'd to the /usr/src directory
[00:22] <BvL> scipi0 yep
[00:22] <N|onDell320> I have a Dell Optiplex 320 that is currently running Windows 7
[00:23] <N|onDell320> and I'd like to remove Windows 7 and get Ubuntu
[00:23] <scipi0> BvL: I am still on the 13.04, but sudo is broken
[00:23] <Ari-Yang> bekks: you have a radeon card?
[00:23] <maujhsn> reisio For what reason?
[00:23] <bekks> Ari-Yang: No. I never did, doesnt have, and will not, until hell freezes :)
[00:24] <reisio> maujhsn: you tell me
[00:24] <Aut0Exec> what would be the benefit of usin hte 64 bit version over the 32 bit?
[00:24] <reisio> Aut0Exec: not asking your processor to pretend it's 30 years ago
[00:24] <Ari-Yang> folsto: oh, do you have a radeon card?
[00:24] <Aut0Exec> ok
[00:24] <Ari-Yang> bekks: my bad, meant the other guy ^
[00:24] <BvL> scipi0, ill need a couple of sec
[00:25] <maujhsn> selekta Why now leave your tar file in /Downloads and extract from there/
[00:25] <bekks> Aut0Exec: almost everything, unless you have 32bit hw only. 32bit is (technically) outdated since about 10 years.
[00:25] <reisio> first x86 production chips, 28 years 10 months ago
[00:25] <selekta> maujhsn, i dont know im just following the directions of the guide
[00:25] <bekks> reisio: :)
[00:26] <reisio> whereas generic 64-bit is only about a decade old
[00:26] <selekta> BvL, ?
[00:26] <mujee> well I wanted to know the name of the channel for ubuntu help
[00:26] <N|onDell320> How do I know if I'm running a 32 bit or 64 bit CPU/Computer?
[00:26] <Aut0Exec> reisio: te 64 bit version is too unstable for me
[00:26] <reisio> Aut0Exec: nah
[00:26] <Aut0Exec> reisio: its super slow when booting up
[00:26] <BvL> selekta im running through steps and making sure i give you correct info
[00:26] <Aut0Exec> reisio: then it crashes
[00:26] <maujhsn> reisio I just realized that you gave me a good suggestion....Thanks!
[00:26] <selekta> BvL, thank you sir
[00:27] <BvL> cd Downloads assuming the tar is in your downloads folder cd ~/Downloads
[00:27] <selekta> BvL, no its in /usr/src now
[00:28] <BvL> ok one sec
[00:28] <selekta> thats why I needed graphical sudo so I could move it there
[00:28] <BvL> cd into that directory
[00:28] <selekta> im there
[00:28] <BvL> sudo tar -xvf ndiswrapper-1.58.tar.gz
[00:29] <selekta> okay
[00:29] <BvL> cd ndiswrapper-1.58
[00:29] <selekta> making
[00:29] <selekta> make installing
[00:29] <BvL> scipi0, ok im back
[00:29] <selekta> next one im confused. just type what it says?
[00:29] <Aut0Exec> so should i use the 32bit version if the 64bit it unstable or what?
[00:30] <BvL> after you tar cd to the new directory
[00:30] <mujee_> does anyone know how can I get cmake version 2.8.9 or later for Ubuntu 12.04.3
[00:30] <scipi0> BvL: Yay : |)
[00:30] <BvL> the rest should be the same
[00:30] <hittt> bekks, i run nautilus and it sais my / contents total 31.5 GBs
[00:30] <hittt> I really think its df thats wrong here
[00:30] <selekta> bvl I did that and make and make install now i didnt the drivename step and its says ndiswrapper isnt installed and that I should sudo apt-get for it
[00:30] <selekta> should I do that?
[00:31] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: sudo apt-get install cmake
[00:31] <BvL> scipi0, you said something about sudo not working
[00:31] <BvL> ?
[00:31] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: I'm on 12.10 and it's packaged with 2.8.9
[00:31] <maujhsn> selekta Yes!
[00:31] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: oh wait, you're on 12.04, I thought you were on 13.04
[00:31] <mujee_> ari_yang i got 2.8.7 with sudo apt-get
[00:31] <Ari-Yang> ah
[00:31] <scipi0> BvL: yeah
[00:31] <selekta> okay I typed in the next step to verify installation bvl and maujhsn and it says unable to find a version of ndiswrapper
[00:32] <mujee_> and i was trying to install latest unity which required cmake 2.8.9 or later
[00:32] <scipi0> BvL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6397015/
[00:32] <BvL> thanks
[00:33] <maujhsn> selekta Put it aside for now, and re-try it tomorrow!
[00:33] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: run sudo apt-get --purge cmake then download this, and extract it http://www.cmake.org/files/v2.8/cmake-2.8.12.1.tar.gz
[00:33] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: let me know when it has been extracted
[00:33] <selekta> maujhsn, why tomorrow? I want to get this done tonight? I only have two steps left this is simple stuff i just dont know enough as to why it isnt working
[00:33] <BvL> scipi0, oh i got tat once, so you your correctly not installing anything but its still locked
[00:34] <mujee_> yes i have this in my home folder extracted
[00:34] <nightdrever> I have compiz running my desktops .... however when ubuntu 12.04 boots.....first i see old wallpaper THEN afte a few secs it changes to compiz......is there away to start compiz wallpaper faster?
[00:34] <scipi0> BvL: yes? I think. I don't understand what you just said
[00:34] <BvL> scipi0, nothing like GDebi, ubuntu software centre, synaptic are currently running?
[00:34] <selekta> BvL, two little steps left can you help me? I did the ndiswrapper -l step and it said unable to find a version of ndiswrapper
[00:35] <mujee_> ari_yang I have already this folder downloaded and extracted in my home folder
[00:35] <scipi0> BvL: nope.
[00:35] <maujhsn> selekta Sometimes it take a day or two for ubuntu to locate a package! i do not know why this is the case!
[00:35] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: okay now read the readme.txt
[00:35] <Ari-Yang> it has the instructions
[00:35] <BvL> scipi0 ok then do a sudo rm -r /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[00:35] <DemYisus> hello
[00:36] <selekta> maujhsn, huh?! That makes no sense!
[00:36] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: you're suppose to cd into the folder with terminal run ./bootstrap after make and then if all goes well sudo make install
[00:36] <scipi0> BvL: done.
[00:36] <selekta> I need internet on this box tonight!
[00:36] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: after you run make, pastebin the output when it's done and link me before running sudo make install
[00:36] <BvL> scipi0, what happened is that linux places this file to say im installing stuff, but if crash during a installation process this file doent get removed so you cant install anyomre
[00:37] <BvL> scipi0 try doing your update now
[00:37] <scipi0> BvL: Thanks! I'll try it
[00:37] <BvL> selekta, ok im back
[00:37] <selekta> <#
[00:37] <selekta> 3
[00:37] <selekta> alright so you know where im at?
[00:37] <selekta> okay I typed in the next step to verify installation bvl and maujhsn and it says unable to find a version of ndiswrapper
[00:37] <selekta> sorry to repaste. didnt feel like typing it out again
[00:37] <BvL> which step number are you at
[00:38] <selekta> 9
[00:38] <maujhsn> selekta ubuntu is more intuitive than you imagine...check in your update manager later on and it may be sent to you!
[00:38] <scipi0> BvL: Software updater is bailing on the start-up. It's icon flashes green a few, then it stops and doesn't do a thing
[00:38] <JiTsI> lol
[00:38] <JiTsI> fookin POS
[00:38] <selekta> maujhsn, it already says it was installed
[00:38] <BvL> selekta: can you put the output into http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[00:39] <selekta> sure bvl
[00:39] <maujhsn> selekta I do not know why this happens
[00:39] <mujee_> Ari_yang sudo apt-get purge cmake  says invalid operation cmake
[00:39] <kostkon> !find cmake
[00:39] <bekks> mujee_: pastebin the exact command please
[00:39] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: sudo apt-get --purge cmake cmake-data
[00:40] <hittt> bekks, never mind i found it it was /root !
[00:40] <selekta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6397034 BvL
[00:40] <mujee_> Ari-yang http://pastebin.com/g3iXBzjw
[00:41] <BvL> scipi0, sudo apt-get install -f
[00:41] <kostkon> mujee_, sudo apt-get remove cmake --purge
[00:41] <Ari-Yang> ^ try that
[00:42] <JiTsI> my 13.4 will not even booty
[00:42] <scipi0> BvL: no good http://paste.ubuntu.com/6397038/
[00:42] <mujee_> Ari_yang yes it removed it
[00:42] <JiTsI> booty booty
[00:42] <mujee_> kostkon I mean it removed it
[00:42] <BvL> scipi0 did you try the sugggestion, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:42] <kostkon> mujee_, now do sudo apt-get autoremove
[00:43] <scipi0> BvL: I'm doing it now
[00:43] <BvL> selekta redo step 6 + with sudo
[00:43] <scipi0> BvL: OMG it's found my 12.04.3 partition.
[00:43] <mujee_> kostkon yes it removed some more things
[00:43] <BvL> since you are working the usr directory you need sudo
[00:44] <kostkon> mujee_, good
[00:44] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: okay if it removed, compile and install the cmake you unzipped fro that .tar file
[00:44] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: cd into the extracted folder and type ./bootstrap and then make after pastebin the output
[00:44] <Linuxman> s
[00:44] <mujee_> kostkon Ar_yang  thats the issue I could not understand in the readme.txt what it is trying to say
[00:44] <BvL> scipi0, is everything working?
[00:44] <selekta> BvL, okay
[00:44] <selekta> this is the whole thing btw http://www.grailbox.com/2012/05/installing-cisco-linksys-ae2500-wireless-adapter-in-linux/
[00:44] <scipi0> BvL: yeah. It's just surprising.
[00:45] <JiTsI> say Op's, is there another command line edit I can do in safe mode to boot this ubuntu up, generic is not booting
[00:45] <selekta> there is some edit there BvL  so let me know if im still on the right track
[00:46] <mujee_> Ari_yang I have run the ./bootstrap
[00:46] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: did you run make?
[00:46] <mujee_> Ari-yang no it is still running ./bootstrap
[00:47] <mujee_> okay so it means after theis I  have to only type make ?
[00:47] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: yes, but before you do pastebin bootstrap when it's done
[00:48] <selekta> BvL, im on step 8 and the output was couldnt open drivername.inf no such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 219
[00:49] <linuxuz3r> how do i know what gnome version i have
[00:49] <BvL> selekta, ok - one sec
[00:49] <selekta> BvL, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper seemed to work.
[00:49] <mujee_> Ari-Yang http://pastebin.com/d2YSjTQf
[00:50] <mujee_> it was too long some were overwrited by terminal so the earlier things are not there
[00:50] <BvL> selekta, ok how did you do step 8
[00:50] <selekta> i typed in sudo ndiswrapper -i drivername.inf
[00:51] <BvL> what was the output?
[00:51] <selekta> BvL, im on step 8 and the output was couldnt open drivername.inf no such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 219
[00:52] <BvL> ok you need to get the file, what wireless card are you using?
[00:52] <selekta> cisco ae2500
[00:52] <selekta> I can grab the driver
[00:52] <BvL> yep we need the windows driver
[00:52] <BvL> windows xp
[00:52] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: in terminal you should go to 'file' edit profile preferences then go to scrolling and tick the unlimited
[00:53] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: do that, then run make
[00:53] <selekta> bvl got the driver
[00:53] <selekta> its in downloads
[00:53] <selekta> bvl pay attention to the edit here....
[00:53] <selekta> this is the whole thing btw http://www.grailbox.com/2012/05/installing-cisco-linksys-ae2500-wireless-adapter-in-linux/
[00:54] <selekta> it says sudo ndiswrapper -m did not load on startud he had to add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules so we will need to do that
[00:54] <BvL> extract all the drivers and do a and change the directory to the dirvers location
[00:54] <selekta> wait, what?
[00:55] <mujee_> Ari-Yang I have done it now but I had already run the command make
[00:55] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: when make finishes pastebin when it and link me
[00:55] <BvL> AE2500xp_WHQL,0.zip, extract the contents
[00:55] <selekta> BvL, extracted the drivers now cd to the driver location?
[00:56] <BvL> selekta, 1. AE2500xp_WHQL,0.zip, extract the contents 2. change to the new folder containing the drivers
[00:56] <selekta> done done and done BvL
[00:57] <mujee_> Ari-Yang here it is http://pastebin.com/8S6n3n4r
[00:57] <BvL> selekta now for step 8, ndiswrapper -i bcmwlhigh5.inf
[00:57] <BvL> output plz
[00:58] <joseph_> ewwww drivers :/
[00:58] <selekta> bvl said it installed
[00:58] <selekta> installing the command line came back up
[00:58] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: alright... now run sudo make install
[00:58] <selekta> okay and verified!
[00:58] <BvL> selekta continue the guide
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> So, a epson v33 scanner has drivers installed works from sudo but does not detect otherwise, my guess is a chmod, just not sure what
[00:59] <delahere> I upgraded to 13.10 and the top status bar is now blank. No gear icon, no clock. Can't find a solution in the forums can anybody help?
[00:59] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: after you run sudo make install pastebin that
[00:59] <selekta> BvL, okay ran modprobe
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> wilee-nilee, 12.04 is the release
[00:59] <scipi0> BvL: what should I do when the command is over? It's taking a while
[00:59] <selekta> now how do i configure this? and also do I need to do the -m thing in /etc/modules so it autoruns?
[00:59] <joseph_> how do i update ubuntu?
[01:00] <nAn00k> apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[01:00] <nAn00k> need su
[01:00] <selekta> BvL, I dont see the network card in network settings
[01:00] <joseph_> okay let me try
[01:00] <Ari-Yang> !upgrade | joseph_
[01:00] <BvL> scipi0, try to update to 13.10 (reboot first if you want to be safe)
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> So, a epson v33 scanner has drivers installed works from sudo simple-scan but does not detect otherwise, my guess is a chmod, just not sure what, ubuntu 12.04.
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> gksudo actually
[01:01] <joseph_> working ty ty
[01:01] <nAn00k> no problem lad :)
[01:01] <mujee_> Ari-Yang http://pastebin.com/15fXpJBe
[01:01] <Rc43> I discovered now possibility to forbid packages with /etc/apt/preferences and want. It is fine but now I want to forbid only package version in standard repo (I want to use the version of it from the ppa).
[01:01] <Rc43> Is it possible?
[01:01] <selekta> BvL, it worked!!
[01:01] <selekta> thank you so much!
[01:01] <Terabyte> I want to run this non-interactively, how do I do it:  apt-get upgrade --show-upgraded
[01:02] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: okay that's it, you have cmake installed.... now do whatever it is that you were doing
[01:02] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: let me know if it works out or not
[01:02] <BvL> selekta, got wireless?
[01:02] <unstable> What is a good way to seamlessly have an ASCII file be encrypted with GPG, then when I open it with gedit say.. or whatever the editor is.. ubuntu will ask me for the password then open the text document?
[01:02] <nAn00k> 7
[01:02] <mujee_> Ari-Yang okay let me check
[01:02] <selekta> BvL, I got wireless. now should this automatically load on startup?
[01:03] <BvL> selekta, i dont know, if you can reboot just to make sure
[01:03] <selekta> BvL, rebooting
[01:03] <BvL> selekta, if something else needs to be done well figure it out
[01:05] <mujee_> Ari-yang it did not work
[01:05] <mujee_> gave an error
[01:05] <selekta> BvL, wireless didnt come up upon startup
[01:05] <selekta> something more needs to be done
[01:05] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: yeah, something happen probably during the compilation :/ so cd into that same folder and run sudo make uninstall
[01:05] <BvL> ok
[01:06] <selekta> he said to add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules
[01:06] <Ari-Yang> mujee_: after you do that, go here and add the ppa https://launchpad.net/~george-edison55/+archive/cmake-precise then run apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install cmake
[01:06] <Ari-Yang> that should do it
[01:06] <delahere> I upgraded to 13.10 and the top status bar disappeared. Can anybody help?
[01:06] <Ari-Yang> afk, good luck
[01:06] <selekta> BvL, his notes are here http://www.grailbox.com/2012/05/installing-cisco-linksys-ae2500-wireless-adapter-in-linux/
[01:07] <BvL> looking at it right now
[01:07] <BvL> what happens when you type sudo ndiswrapper -m?
[01:08] <selekta> it said adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper to /etc/modules.conf
[01:08] <selekta> BvL,
[01:08] <BvL> selekta, is wireless working?
[01:09] <selekta> BvL, no sir
[01:09] <BvL>  modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:09] <BvL> selekta, ^ and after that
[01:09] <Xaxxa> hello everybody
[01:09] <maujhsn> selekta How about rebooting?
[01:09] <selekta> maujhsn, I already rebooted
[01:09] <maujhsn> Ok
[01:10] <selekta> BvL, typed in modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:10] <Xaxxa> somebody can help me to setup an automount of a webdav folder on ubuntu
[01:10] <Xaxxa> how ca i do that?
[01:10] <BvL> selekta, wireless is working>
[01:10] <selekta> BvL, no sir
[01:10] <BvL> *?
[01:10] <mujee_> Ari-Yang well shall i write deb before it to add the ppa?
[01:10] <BvL> selekta ndiswrapper -l
[01:11] <Runemoro> Hello, is a clean install better than a release upgrade for my server?
[01:11] <selekta> device is present BvL
[01:11] <selekta> and it says driver installed
[01:11] <Xaxxa> how can i configure an automount of a webdav folder instead to reconnect everytime?
[01:12] <hittt> Im currently upgrading to 12.10, i hope i dont have to install 13.04 as well in orded to reach 13.10
[01:12] <BvL> selekta did you redo step 11. configure wlan0 in Network Center and start it up.
[01:12] <BvL> if not, you sould
[01:12] <selekta> BvL, im in there now and the wireless thing didnt pop up like it did last time. I only see wired and network proxy
[01:13] <Xaxxa> or there is a software client that allow me to use it as a local folder?
[01:13] <selekta> BvL, I unplugged it and plugged it back in and now its there
[01:14] <selekta> BvL, I have wireless now
[01:14] <xangua> hittt: you will have to if you want to reach 13.10
[01:14] <BvL> selekta, now that it "works" lets try rebooting, if its not automatically recognized just unplug and re-plug into you computer
[01:14] <selekta> BvL, okay
[01:14] <BvL> but before that
[01:15] <selekta> damn already rebooting haha
[01:15] <BvL> you did sudo ndiswrapper -m
[01:15] <BvL> before the reboot correct
[01:15] <BvL> if so thats fine
[01:15] <selekta> yes to add it to the modules.inf
[01:15] <selekta> er conf
[01:15] <maujhsn> selekta good work!
[01:15] <BvL> ok all is well (hopefully)
[01:16] <selekta> BvL, no wireless upon startup
[01:17] <selekta> shall I unplug and plug it back in?
[01:17] <_davide> Hi -- is there a package that provides libc already compiled w/ debugging symbols?
[01:17] <BvL> yes
[01:17] <pero> why is nautilus so bad? seriously, is there an explanation for that?
[01:17] <selekta> BvL, no wireless
[01:17] <BvL> selekta, ^ does "unplug and plug it back in" solution work
[01:18] <BvL> ok
[01:18] <Runemoro> pero, Why do you think it's bad?
[01:18] <trippeh> _davide: libc6-dbg
[01:18] <paddyez> ahoj
[01:18] <BvL> lets redo step 10. modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:18] <mujee_> Ari-Yang after installing cmake from that ppa bash: /usr/local/bin/cmake: No such file or directory
[01:19] <pero> i would like to resize my columns, or reorder by size on the first try
[01:19] <pero> how do i do that
[01:19] <BvL> selekta, lets redo step 10. modprobe ndiswrapper    then unplug and plug it back in
[01:19] <selekta> BvL, okay
[01:19] <selekta> just typing that made the wireless popup
[01:20] <BvL> ok then we will make that command run on boot up
[01:20] <paddyez> can you help me please to locate the variable where the JAVA path ist stored in?
[01:20] <pero> why isn't su integrated? or the terminal
[01:20] <pero> did you seriously ask that question or did i miss where all these critical features are somehow
[01:20] <BvL> selekta "just typing that made the wireless popup" did you enter step 10 before the wireless came up
[01:21] <selekta> BvL, it still says connecting. thats what it did last time. I had to forget network and put it in again to make it connect
[01:21] <BvL> or did it come up on its own
[01:21] <Runemoro> pero, There's a plugin to open a terminal in the current directory
[01:21] <selekta> BvL, typing modeprobe ndiswrapper made it come up
[01:21] <pero> why does that need to be a plugin
[01:21] <BvL> selekta and clicked enter correct?
[01:22] <selekta> BvL, correct
[01:22] <BvL> ok just to make sure
[01:22] <pero> is there another plugin that lets me resize column widths?
[01:22] <Runemoro> because "normal" users don't use the terminal a lot
[01:22] <mujee_> Can anyone help me in installing cmake 2.8.9 or later version in Ubuntu 12.04.3 64bit
[01:22] <Runemoro> and for su, you can make a small skript
[01:22] <Runemoro> script*
[01:23] <pero> what was my original question? ;)
[01:23] <maujhsn> I have a virtualbox guest "11.10"  on a windows 7 host but forgot my log-in password, How to I get in to reset?
[01:23] <pero> you know what else i can do too - i can install another file manager
[01:24] <pero> i'm just curious if there's an actual explanation for the catastrophically bad state of this application'
[01:24] <selekta> BvL, connection FINALLY established. took forever.
[01:24] <pero> because it seems calculated
[01:24] <selekta> BvL, how do we make this so I power the box on and it just automagically connects?
[01:24] <selekta> without plugging and unplugging etc.
[01:24] <xangua> pero: ask nautilus (now files) developers
[01:24] <pero> and i'd love to read it so i can get with the program
[01:24] <pero> maybe its just over my head
[01:25] <BvL> selekta, im looking into that what version of ubuntu or another linux distro are you using
[01:25] <BvL> though this is a ubuntu form
[01:25] <mujee_> Can anyone help me in installing cmake 2.8.9 or later version in Ubuntu 12.04.3 64bit?
[01:25] <BvL> *irc
[01:25] <Rc43> Guys, how to select package from PPA instead of standard repo?
[01:25] <Rc43> I googled and can't find it.
[01:25] <selekta> BvL, 12.04
[01:25] <Rc43> man apt-get doesn't tell about PPA
[01:26] <Runemoro> what would be nice would be when you try to open another user's files you would have to type in their password or an admin's password
[01:26] <selekta> BvL, yeah because even a suspend knocks it out
[01:27] <BvL> ok if we ned to worry about suspend too it will take a short while to get the solution
[01:27] <N|onDell320> I'm trying to decide what ubuntu I need. 12.04 LTS or 13?
[01:27] <selekta> and when it just awoke from suspend BvL I just did sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and it still hasnt popped up in network
[01:27] <N|onDell320> Can anyone tell me what I need?
[01:27] <xangua> N|onDell320: only you can tell what you need
[01:27] <N|onDell320> I don't know which though
[01:28] <N|onDell320> I'm new to linux
[01:28] <Runemoro> N|onDell320, 13.10 then
[01:28] <N|onDell320> ok
[01:28] <xangua> N|onDell320: stable and old software or newer and, posibly, a few bugs
[01:28] <N|onDell320> Is there a reason why some get 12.04?
[01:28] <Runemoro> N|onDell320: It's more stable
[01:28] <N|onDell320> Well my computer is about 5 years old now. Does that make a difference?
[01:29] <BvL> selekta, ok....
[01:29] <Runemoro> how much RAM does it have?
[01:29] <N|onDell320> 2.00
[01:29] <N|onDell320> and it's 32 bit
[01:30] <selekta> BvL, I unplugged and plugged it back in and now I see it. still connecting though
[01:30] <Runemoro> 2GB of ram is good enough for 13.04
[01:31] <BvL> ok after it connects try suspending, resuming and unplugging and replugging
[01:31] <BvL> but dont do  modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:32] <BvL> im trying to see what the driver will do
[01:32] <N|onDell320> So the 13.10 is recomended for me?
[01:32] <BvL> selekta ^
[01:32] <Guest6152> if u have older hardware i would recoment xubuntu 13.10 works  fine
[01:32] <BvL> ok after it connects try suspending, resuming and unplugging and replugging...
[01:33] <N|onDell320> Ok thanks
[01:33] <BvL> but dont do  modprobe ndiswrapper, im trying to see what the driver will do
[01:33] <selekta> BvL, yes
[01:33] <selekta> doing thAT NOW
[01:35] <selekta> BvL, unplugging and replugging seemed to work
[01:35] <selekta> the wireless is on now and is trying to connect
[01:35] <BvL> selekta, but you didnt do  modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:36] <selekta> BvL, correct. just unplugged and replugged
[01:36] <wilee-nilee>  So, a epson v33 scanner has drivers installed works from gksudo simple-scan but does not detect otherwise, my guess is a chmod, just not sure what, ubuntu 12.04.
[01:39] <BvL> selekta, now to get it to "auto load" the driver
[01:39] <selekta> BvL, yessir
[01:39] <BvL> do you you want this to effect every user or only your user account
[01:39] <selekta> whichever is easier
[01:39] <BvL> every requires sudo
[01:39] <selekta> there is only one account on the device
[01:39] <BvL> you is simple
[01:40] <selekta> okay lets do that
[01:40] <BvL> ok, click on the gear to right
[01:40] <BvL> startup applications
[01:40] <BvL> add
[01:40] <selekta> there
[01:40] <BvL> Name: anything (maybe wireless)
[01:40] <xirre> What are the dangers of using Apache2 under Ubuntu?
[01:41] <BvL> command:  modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:41] <BvL> comments: you choice
[01:41] <selekta> done
[01:41] <BvL> try rebooting
[01:41]  * vanquish27 Good news everyone! 
[01:41] <selekta> so that command will simulate unplugging and replugging the card?
[01:42] <BvL> no just loading the driver, i havent gotten to that yet, i like to verify every step is working before continuing
[01:42] <selekta> BvL, rebooted
[01:42] <selekta> doesnt appear to be doing anything.
[01:43] <BvL> you will need to unplug and replug most likely
[01:43] <JordanJ2> Hey folks, when I try to run the Ubuntu installer (USB drive) I just get a black screen
[01:43] <selekta> unplugging and plugging worked
[01:43] <selekta> BvL,
[01:44] <tripelb> 12.04 how do I remove a shortcuut that I have put on the panel --  gnome
[01:44] <gr33n7007h> tripelb, alt + right click
[01:46] <JordanJ2> All I get is a black screen
[01:47] <JordanJ2> Can someone help me?
[01:47] <tripelb> gr33n7007h, sorry that does not work. :(
[01:48] <selekta> BvL, figure anyhting out?
[01:48] <BvL> net yet
[01:49] <BvL> :(
[01:49] <selekta> unplugging and replugging isnt the end of the world for me, I suppose
[01:49] <selekta> but it is annoying
[01:49] <baumiao> http://79.125.22.254/?post=12&title=The_unofficial_ubuntu_smartphone_190usd
[01:49] <selekta> cant a script be written to basically pretend the usb is plugged and unplugged?
[01:49] <tripelb> where is the ubuntu help in the menu 12.04 gnome
[01:49] <gr33n7007h> tripelb, try windows key + alt + right mouse click
[01:50] <BvL> selekta, ive never done that, so thats what im looking into
[01:51] <tripelb> gr33n7007h, bingo. ty.
[01:51] <BvL> selekta, im looking at http://superuser.com/questions/141908/how-do-i-reset-an-usb-device-without-unplugging-it-in-linux
[01:51] <gr33n7007h> np
[01:51] <selekta> BvL, ahhhhh nice
[01:52] <scipi0> BvL: It worked! It also fixed problems with GRUB and installed World of Goo properly. Thank you so much!!!!! Your a saint
[01:53] <N|onDell320> Why does it take 1hr to download Ubuntu 13.10?
[01:53] <ianorlin> from am mirror?
[01:53] <BvL> scipi0, glad to hear, happy 13.10
[01:54] <selekta> also when i drag my windows around i get significant lag. the window lags behind my mouse very annoyingly. any way to fix that?
[01:54] <selekta> using unity launcher
[01:56] <delahere> upgraded to 13.10 and freeplane won't run
[01:56] <BvL> selekta, unfortunately that normal if your moving you mouse fast
[01:57] <selekta> BvL, thats never happened to me before on any of my computers :(
[01:57] <scipi0> BvL: anything cool to do to this distro. Mods or Themes or cool sh*t?
[01:57] <baumiao> have you read about the x86 smartphone with ubuntu on it?
[01:58] <baumiao> http://79.125.22.254/?post=12&title=The_unofficial_ubuntu_smartphone_190usd
[01:58] <BvL> selekta, i have a bash script that installs everything for me, other then conky i dont really mod ubuntu, sure you could but im happy
[01:58] <selekta> baumiao, thats a pornstar database lol
[01:58] <baumiao> selekta: and is cool isn't it? :D
[01:59] <selekta> BvL,  scipi0 asked that :D
[01:59] <BvL> oops
[01:59] <selekta> :)
[01:59] <BvL> i copy and paste
[01:59] <BvL> empathy is bad for that
[02:00] <selekta> ahhh okay
[02:00] <Ari-Yang> baumiao: this is an ubuntu tech support channel
[02:00] <BvL> no typos, that way just huge blobs of incorrect information
[02:00] <Ari-Yang> for off topic stuff join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:00] <BvL> scipi0 i have a bash script that installs everything for me, other then conky i dont really mod ubuntu, sure you could but im happy	
[02:00] <BvL> with the defaults
[02:02] <selekta> so yeah this window lag is pretty bad. Think its a video driver issue? im doing sudo apt-get upgrade right now. That finds the newest drivers right?
[02:02] <BvL> selekta what card do you have?
[02:02] <selekta> god only knows, in this old thing.
[02:02] <Ari-Yang> selekta: upgrade upgrades ubuntu version
[02:03] <satang_> .
[02:03] <Ari-Yang> selekta: you probably wanted to do dist-upgrade
[02:03] <selekta> its a dell dimension b110
[02:03] <Ari-Yang> !dist-upgrade | selekta
[02:03] <Ari-Yang> selekta: what graphics card do you have?
[02:03] <selekta> whatever comes in the dell dimension b110 Ari-Yang
[02:03] <BvL> selekta could you do a lsmod and past http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:04] <selekta> This is some junk comp I got from a family member that I want to use as a media center
[02:04] <selekta> bvl sure
[02:04] <selekta> sudo apt-get upgrade is almost done then ill do that
[02:04] <LjL> Ari-Yang, i want to assume you didn't look at the part where baumiao's website was porn-related and didn't send them to #ubuntu-offtopic thinking that would be appropriate there :\
[02:04] <Ari-Yang> no I did not click on that link :|
[02:05] <Ari-Yang> LjL: all I knew is that he was linking off topic stuff so I suggested #ubuntu-offtopic to him
[02:05] <setuid> How do I change the default gdm resolution? I googled and found a lot of shell based, xrandr hacks, but there has to be an easier way.
[02:05] <setuid> Mine is starting at something like 2036x1500 or something, but when I log in, it's the correct 1400x900 res.
[02:06] <anon12> How do I concatenate mp4 files into a single video file?
[02:06] <Ari-Yang> selekta: what's the output of lspci | grep VGA ?
[02:06] <selekta> sec, my terminal is working
[02:06] <LjL> Ari-Yang: right, that's not quite how that's supposed to work. !offtopic isn't a catch-all for things that aren't ontopic for #ubuntu. i've seen that happen more and more recently, and just... no
[02:06] <BvL> selekta, yep, im fairly sure that is an onld laptop, so its possibly your graphics card thats slowing it down a bit
[02:06] <selekta> its a desktop actually
[02:06] <BvL> *old
[02:06] <selekta> but yeah :/
[02:07] <BvL> oh desktop, i checked the specs i forgot google images
[02:07] <selekta> there isnt some sort of animation or whatever I can turn off?
[02:07] <BvL> are you on unity 2d?
[02:07] <selekta> im not sure
[02:08] <selekta> it has the bar on the left
[02:09] <BvL>  selekta, http://askubuntu.com/questions/62001/am-i-using-unity-or-unity-2d
[02:09] <BvL> selekta, 2d will be faster for you
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> selekta: oh it's intel
[02:10] <BvL> selekta, i used similar computers im my school with ubuntu 12.04, it should be ok
[02:10] <selekta> BvL, ahhh im on 3d
[02:10] <selekta> where do i switch to 2d?
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> in the login box
[02:10] <selekta> gotcha
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> log out, you should see the ubuntu logo icon
[02:11] <selekta> you guys are so helpful. I cant thank you enough for all of this
[02:11] <Ari-Yang> click it and you can switch there
[02:11] <anon12> How do I get unity to only use Unity 3d? (optimus graphics but xorg is on intel graphics, unity 3d works when booting from a live usb)
[02:11] <Ari-Yang> be sure to join to give us feedback~
[02:11] <selekta> sorry, im a noob. Been using linux for 10 years but I never got into how to actually do anything with it
[02:11] <rehanog_> hi
[02:11] <BvL> selekta, most people learn form necessity
[02:12] <selekta> Oh I joined long ago. Been coming to this channel for almost 10 years now :D
[02:12] <selekta> BvL, still waiting on this apt-get upgrade to finish
[02:12] <BvL> ive forgot to close the window and when i came back it looked like there where people who i could help so i stayed
[02:13] <selekta> what, today?!
[02:14] <selekta> I use windows and android primarily, but I will always have an ubuntu machine. They are reliable and the customer service and help in this channel are second to none
[02:15] <BvL> selekta yep lightdm is not working (installed by default), so upon booting i usually wont get the nice login screen i just had a blinking text courser on the top left. so since it could not be fixed by a had to go with gdm
[02:15] <BvL> now "everything" work "perfectly"
[02:15] <BvL> (which means minor issues that i dont worry about)
[02:15] <selekta> haha nice
[02:15] <selekta> right yeah
[02:16] <selekta> it looks like ill just have to unplug and replug this wireless card everytime but who cares
[02:16] <selekta> more exercise :D
[02:16] <BvL> selekta, for now that is
[02:17] <BvL> hopefully there will be official support for it in 14.04
[02:17] <selekta> I honestly dont think ill be upgrading this PC
[02:17] <selekta> Its old and I just need it to work. Doesnt need features or be pretty. Needs to play music and watch videos. Thats it haha
[02:18] <selekta> my laptop is where I have all my fun
[02:18] <BvL> mine are two week
[02:18] <selekta> just threw 4 more gigs of RAM in it to make 8. zoom!
[02:18] <cfhowlett> selekta, new LTS release (14.04) means the PERFECT time to upgrade the old box!  My 2009 Dell is looking pretty ragged so .. that new Dell M3800 is looking very sweet!
[02:19] <BvL> my desktop is where i have all the power
[02:19] <selekta> nothing compares to my phone though. Got a nexus 4 and a nexus 5.
[02:19] <selekta> What phone do you use?
[02:20] <BvL> dont have one ;(
[02:20] <selekta> a phone period or a smart phone?
[02:20] <BvL> either
[02:20] <selekta> why not, you dont have a need for one?
[02:21] <BvL> i have voip, no cell, no smart
[02:21] <selekta> ohhh okay
[02:21] <selekta> hmm I have an old Droid RAZR laying around here somewhere...where do you live?
[02:21] <BvL> toronto
[02:21] <BvL> ontario canada
[02:21] <selekta> Im from Rochester NY. Pretty close!
[02:22] <BvL> same timezone!
[02:22] <selekta> yessir
[02:22] <selekta> bout 3-4 hours from you most likely
[02:22] <selekta> well shit for all your help let me see if I can track down that droid razr to send to you. I havent a clue as to where it is but ill find it
[02:23]  * ianorlin doesn't want a smartphone
[02:23] <selekta> ianorlin, how come?
[02:24] <BvL> i think im going to rewrite the setup wireless guide
[02:25] <selekta> eh?
[02:25] <mujee> does anyone have tried cmake 2.8.9 or later version in ubuntu 12.04.3 64 bits
[02:27] <BvL> the reason for the rewrite is that may work for other "windows only" wireless usb dongles, and a good reference, encase anyone else asks me about a similar issue
[02:27] <BvL> i have a guide to install ubuntu on a MacBook 2,1 (2008 that should be 2008 model i thing)
[02:28] <BvL> and the audio is balanced!
[02:28] <selekta> nice!!
[02:29] <BvL> my old macbook is the main reason i knew how to do most of the steps you had to go through
[02:29] <cfhowlett>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:29] <Guest12528> My screen resolution is set too high. Once lightdm loads I lose picture. How do I fix this?
[02:30] <wlightning> is there a way to reset my file manager settings.. ever since I edited my bookmarks it crashes as soon as I try and load it up
[02:31] <mammuth> #ubuntu-fr
[02:31] <cfhowlett> !fr
[02:35] <BvL> wlightning use terminal and type "gedit ~/.gtk-bookmarks"
[02:35] <JordanJ2> Anyone..?
[02:36] <cfhowlett> jordan, anyone what?
[02:36] <BvL> JordanJ2 can you re state you issue
[02:36] <ghs> I'm trying upgrade my system, however is with following error: http://ideone.com/lJTxZK The solution should be apt-get dist-upgrade. But, this command is secure ?
[02:36] <cfhowlett> ghs, yes it happens sometimes
[02:37] <MplayerProbs> hello everyone, can anyone help me find out how to resolve an issue with rtsp through mplayer?  When I upgraded to saucy vlc will no longer play rtsp streaming media so I'm trying mplayer and it has 04 errors Server returned 404: Not Found No stream found to handle url rtsp://
[02:37] <wlightning> BvL, hmm...shoot... even removing that file... it still crashes as soon as it starts
[02:37] <cfhowlett> ghs, usually means more work somewhere needs to be done before those can be installed
[02:37] <shroomduke> what was that off-topic channel?
[02:37] <cfhowlett> ghs, if it still appears in a  few days, consider a bug search, but in my experience, wait ...
[02:37] <cfhowlett> !ot|shroomduke,
[02:38] <shroomduke> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:38] <ghs> cfhowlett: So, Can I use the apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[02:38] <cfhowlett> ghs, yes you can.
[02:39] <ghs> cfhowlett: thank you!
[02:39] <cfhowlett> shroomduke, you mean ...   /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:39] <cfhowlett> ghs, go forth, have fun, be safe.
[02:39] <BvL> wlightning could you type nautilus into the terminal and put the output in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:39] <Guest12528> the instructions in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution  for XFCE is blank. no info on what to do if you screen res is too high.
[02:40] <MplayerProbs> hello everyone, can anyone help me find out how to resolve an issue with rtsp through mplayer?  When I upgraded to saucy vlc will no longer play rtsp streaming media so I'm trying mplayer and it has 04 errors Server returned 404: Not Found No stream found to handle url rtsp://
[02:40] <wlightning> BvL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6397433/
[02:42] <MplayerProbs> anyone here with vlc/mplayer expertise?
[02:42] <ianorlin> !anyone
[02:43] <MplayerProbs> I'm sorry ianorlin I have asked a couple of itmes and no response.  Perhaps Im not framing it clearly :)
[02:44] <zykotick9> MplayerProbs: is it possible to share the link, or do you have another example of an rtsp link handy?
[02:44] <MplayerProbs> zykotick9: absolutely, ill provide the pastebin of my vlc output and mplayer output... THANKS!
[02:44] <ianorlin> !pastebinit
[02:45] <MplayerProbs> http://pastebin.com/LdXVE3Dw
[02:45] <MplayerProbs> that's the full mplayer link attempt and output... fyi I did the ip6/lirc disable on mplayer
[02:45] <MplayerProbs> I am only using mplayer because vlc stopped
[02:45] <MplayerProbs> here's that pastebin
[02:45] <BvL> wlightning, sorry i dont know how to help with this issue
[02:46] <zykotick9> MplayerProbs: ;)  sorry i don't go to pastebin.com (in future i'd use something with less ads for people paste.ubuntu.com for example) but it doesn't matter, i found an example.  i can play rtsp on my free (as in freedom mplayer) from rtsp://184.72.239.149/vod/mp4:BigBuckBunny_115k.mov can you?
[02:46] <MplayerProbs> actually ill paste the vlc link http://pastebin.com/LdXVE3Dw
[02:47] <wlightning> BvL, Thanks for trying =) I may just reset my home folder... been seeing a lot of similar issues with my settings since the upgrade.
[02:47] <MplayerProbs> ill paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[02:47] <zykotick9> MplayerProbs: ya, and i just explained - i don't see it!  'cause i don't go there...
[02:47] <MplayerProbs> no problem sorry
[02:47] <MplayerProbs> ok
[02:47] <BvL> wlightning ive found something similar at https://answers.launchpad.net/nautilus-terminal/+question/232761 im still reading
[02:48] <MplayerProbs> zykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6397453/
[02:48] <zykotick9> MplayerProbs: but try running "mplayer rtsp://184.72.239.149/vod/mp4:BigBuckBunny_115k.mov" and let me know if it works
[02:48] <MplayerProbs> I'll try that link you posted
[02:49] <BvL>  wlightning maybe #12
[02:49] <Guest12528> does it work if you change to mms://
[02:49] <BvL> wlightning then #13
[02:49] <MplayerProbs> didn't work
[02:50] <wlightning> k, sec.. .I'll pull the plugins
[02:50] <MplayerProbs> mismatching header
[02:50] <Guest12528> seriously. where do i go to change the screen resolution in BASH?
[02:50] <zykotick9> MplayerProbs: i get the error "Failed to initiate "audio/X-ASF-PF" RTP subsession" when trying to connect to yours... and some other "junk"... i have no real suggestions, try installing codecs i guess (fyi vlc dones' use 3rd party codecs, but mplayer does)
[02:51] <MplayerProbs> Im happy to use either, just weird that it stopped @ saucy and worked with 13.04
[02:51] <zykotick9> s/dones'/doesn't/
[02:51] <MplayerProbs> just cant' get either to work
[02:51] <MplayerProbs> is there a workaround to the 404 error in mplayer?
[02:51] <MplayerProbs> i see you mentioning codecs
[02:52] <zykotick9> MplayerProbs: i don't get a 404...
[02:52] <MplayerProbs> i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras which was sufficient previously
[02:52] <MplayerProbs> sigh
[02:52] <wlightning> BvL, no such dir as ~/.local/share/nautilus-python
[02:53] <wlightning> BvL, oh... dropbox is installed via package
[02:53] <MplayerProbs> well I appreciate your attempt to help, zykotick9
[02:53] <zykotick9> MplayerProbs: sorry, i gots nothin' to suggest...  best of luck.
[02:54] <MplayerProbs> you tried, i appreciate it
[02:54] <wlightning> BvL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6397482/ same without extension
[02:55] <MplayerProbs> have some questions if anyone can please help - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6397453/ it's in trying to get an rtsp stream (.wma) that was easily working in 13.04 but no longer works in 13.10
[02:56] <wlightning> BvL, little nervous operating without my dropbox tho lol
[02:56] <sk8ptic> hello
[02:57] <MplayerProbs> have some questions if anyone can please help - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6397453/ it's in trying to get an rtsp stream (.wma) that was easily working in 13.04 but no longer works in 13.10 I've tried mplayer, totem, vlc and have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[03:01] <shroomduke> I have 13.10 and it works in vlc for me
[03:01] <MplayerProbs> have some questions if anyone can please help - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6397453/ it's in trying to get an rtsp stream (.wma) that was easily working in 13.04 but no longer works in 13.10 I've tried mplayer, totem, vlc and have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[03:01] <shroomduke> rtsp://184.72.239.149/vod/mp4:BigBuckBunny_115k.mov
[03:01] <zykotick9> MplayerProbs: it pains me a bit to suggest this... but you could try the mediubuntu repo they've got some codecs that are non-free - see "/msg ubottu medibuntu" for the link.  good luck.  my personal irc-vrms alarm is going off ;)
[03:03] <shroomduke> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:03] <MplayerProbs> zykotick9: im sure you know already that repo is abandoned
[03:04] <MplayerProbs> shroomduke: i already di dthat but thank you
[03:04] <MplayerProbs> zykotick9: it's unmaintained and offline
[03:04] <zykotick9> MplayerProbs: actually, i didn't.  sorry.  thanks!  i'll remember that.  RIP medibuntu
[03:04] <MplayerProbs> no problem - again thankful for the help... learned about vrsm
[03:05] <zykotick9> ;)
[03:05] <MplayerProbs> i've googled this pretty thoroughly
[03:05] <MplayerProbs> would hate to reinstall 13.1 as I've done uber package installs and haven't learned how to back that piece up
[03:06] <shroomduke> np
[03:07] <MplayerProbs> have some questions if anyone can please help - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6397453/ it's in trying to get an rtsp stream (.wma) that was easily working in 13.04 but no longer works in 13.10 I've tried mplayer, totem, vlc and have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[03:07] <atari911> i always make an image of my disk before i do any dist upgrade
[03:08] <MplayerProbs> atari911: do you know how to make an install list ala ninite?  that way you do fresh installs of all of your software?
[03:09] <zykotick9> atari911: i'd suggest you avoid using the term dist-upgrade for anything... it's one of the most misunderstood commands in APT-world.  see "/msg ubottu dist-upgrade" for what it means... fyi, it's NOT to upgrade to a new release...
[03:09] <BvL> MplayerProbs dont know but vlc may not be able to handle wma streams
[03:09] <zykotick9> !clone | MplayerProbs
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> atari911, what do you use to image the disc?
[03:09] <atari911> i always just restore from my file based back to a fresh install and all the packages are installed that way
[03:09] <zykotick9> lol, i have NO idea what apt-clone is!!!
[03:10] <atari911> unless its a upgrade
[03:10] <MplayerProbs> BvL: it has actually up through 13.04 for me
[03:10] <MplayerProbs> !automate
[03:10] <BvL> ok, my desktop is 12.04 thanks
[03:10] <zykotick9> "apt-cache show apt-clone" neat, a tool has been hidding from me!
[03:11] <atari911> clonezilla
[03:12] <atari911> for me its laptop so i just pull the drive and usb it to my desktop
[03:12] <atari911> boot from the disk and clone it to a directory
[03:12] <MplayerProbs> have some questions if anyone can please help - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6397453/ it's in trying to get an rtsp stream (.wma) that was easily working in 13.04 but no longer works in 13.10 I've tried mplayer, totem, vlc and have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[03:13] <zykotick9> MplayerProbs: you're asking too frequently.  wait 1/2 hour between asking, you need differnet people at their keyboards...
[03:13] <MplayerProbs> zykotick9: thanks, duly noted :)
[03:14] <MplayerProbs> impatience at it's finest
[03:14] <zykotick9> !patience | MplayerProbs the official answer ;)
[03:14] <MplayerProbs> d'oh
[03:14] <atari911> @MplayerProbs i tried to run it through the link to VLC and get a bunch of "Broken packet detected" errors
[03:15] <MplayerProbs> atari911: that's exactly what I get - has started since i upgraded to 13.10
[03:15] <wlightning> BvL, reset my home dir and backed up the old one... Nautalis is working nicely now =)
[03:15] <MplayerProbs> always worked <13.10 and works on other OS's
[03:16] <MplayerProbs> folks on forum mentioned using mplayer, and as seen in the paste that produces 404 errors in mplayer
[03:16] <BvL> does 13.04 have the nightly ppa?
[03:16] <MplayerProbs> I can hop on my wife's win machine and listen now
[03:16] <MplayerProbs> I don't think it does, but i did install the nightly and that's when I started having the issue
[03:16] <MplayerProbs> so i apt-get purged and reinstalled the ubuntu repo
[03:18] <raghu> I cant login as administrater after using the command sudo apt-get perge compiz to update the compiz its giving error that internal error in the ubuntu12.04 I am the new user for linux os I am using the linux from the past 1year but I am not having the hold of it so please guidme that how to get out form My problem
[03:19] <atari911> yea im running on 13.10
[03:19] <BvL> MplayerProbs yep my cant play ether
[03:20] <BvL> (13.10)
[03:20] <gr33n7007h> MplayerProbs, this works on mplayer on my system changing it to -> mms://stream.blueletterbible.org/courson_jon/Gen/W3001.wma
[03:20] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I compress my data with most compression rate possible? (Which program compresses the data mostly?)
[03:20] <Random833> i'm bored
[03:21] <Random833> oops wrong channel
[03:21] <Guest12528> mojtaba,  7zip works great for me
[03:21] <mojtaba> Is this the most powerful one?
[03:22] <mojtaba> I am interested in text based ones.
[03:22] <Guest12528> Can anyone help me? My screen resolution is set too high in XFCE.  What do I do?
[03:22] <paulmonochrome> Hello
[03:22] <cfhowlett> paulmonochrome, greetings
[03:22] <BvL> Guest12528, can you login?
[03:23] <Guest12528> BvL, i can log into bash if i boot the system without a screen attached
[03:23] <Guest12528> then attach it and do whatever in CLI. i just don't know what to do
[03:24] <BvL> what video card do you have?
[03:24] <Guest12528> its a Radeon HD4200
[03:24] <Guest12528> x.org driver
[03:24] <MplayerProbs> gr33n7007h: YOU ROCK
[03:25] <raghu_> I cant login as administrater after using the command sudo apt-get perge compiz to update the compiz its giving error that internal error in the ubuntu12.04 I am the new user for linux os I am using the linux from the past 1year but I am not having the hold of it so please guidme that how to get out form My problem
[03:25] <MplayerProbs> gr33n7007h: for president!  :oD thank you soooooo much
[03:25] <paulmonochrome> Who can talk with me about new kind of Ubuntu distribution?
[03:25] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I compress my data with most compression rate possible? (Which program compresses the data mostly?)
[03:25] <gr33n7007h> np
[03:25] <BvL> Guest12528 terminal xrandr what do you get
[03:26] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu|paulmonochrome, new kind?
[03:26] <Guest12528> BvL,  "Can't open display"
[03:26] <BvL> is tty also screwed when there is a display attached?
[03:26] <Guest12528> i can see tty properly
[03:26] <BvL> ctrl alt f1 - f6
[03:27] <paulmonochrome> ubottu, i mean its like Ubuntu Studio or Edubuntu
[03:27] <Guest12528> yeah i can see stuff and switch around
[03:27] <Guest12528> i just cant startx or the monitor goes "out of range"
[03:28] <cfhowlett> !ot|paulmonochrome, bring it to offtopic and I'll try
[03:28] <cfhowlett> paulmonochrome, or PM
[03:29] <Guest12528> i looked in /etc/X11/ but there is no xorg.cong file
[03:29] <BvL> Guest12528, ok monitor out of range with x, in that case what is the resolution of the monitor and its fps
[03:29] <Guest12528> BvL,  its 1024x768 i think it's 60Hrz
[03:30] <raghu_> I under stand the channel topic  I accept all the terms
[03:31] <Guest12528> raghu_, Maybe try  pressing CTRL + Alt + F1, then type sudo apt-get install compiz
[03:32] <raghu_> ok I will try and comeback
[03:33] <raghu_> I tried it shows that allready installed the new compiz vertion
[03:35] <BvL> Guest12528 maybe try http://askubuntu.com/questions/226758/screen-resolution-of-a-command-line-terminal as a temporary fix
[03:35] <BvL> adjust screen res t match
[03:35] <Guest12528> why were you purging the compiz config? the system sounds kinda bwoken to me. might want to re-install
[03:36] <BvL> i will step away for a a sec
[03:36] <raghu_> because it giving the error message that having some internall problem with compiz
[03:39] <zykotick9> MplayerProbs: mind if i PM you?
[03:39] <MplayerProbs> zykotick9: sure
[03:42] <N|onDell320> I'm installing Linex from Windows-wish me luck!
 for all your truck bed lining needs http://www.linex.com/ just joking, when i see that on trucks i always think linux
[03:46] <BvL> back
[03:47] <g0to> hi
[03:47] <cfhowlett> g0to, greetings
[03:48] <g0to> after connecting a HDMI to my laptop, my machine froze
[03:48] <g0to> after that, it freezes every time I log in
[03:49] <g0to> I'm blackout. Using ircii from tty
[03:49] <g0to> any ideas on what could be happening?
[03:50] <ianorlin> does ~/.xseisson-errors give anything?
[03:52] <g0to> ianorlin, openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
[03:53] <g0to> ianorlin, cannot connect to brltty at 0:
[03:53] <g0to> ianorlin, Script for tjkv started at run_im
[03:53] <stormchaser3000> hi
[03:54] <stormchaser3000> i yet again need hel
[03:54] <stormchaser3000> help
[03:54] <g0to> ianorlin, Script for default started at run_im
[03:58] <Guest12528> i cant seem to find any of the xorg config files
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> Guest12528, It is not there unless you build or a script makes it
[03:59] <Guest12528> /etc/X11 doesnt have xorg.config, /usr/share/X11 doesnt have anything relating to the video, and im not seeing a monitors.xml in /home/user/.config
[03:59] <Guest12528> so how to i fix my screen resolution?
[04:05] <gr33n7007h> Guest12528, can you pastebin the output of `xrandr`
[04:06] <Guest12528> i dont need to. the output is "Can't open display"
[04:06] <stormchaser3000> um hi
[04:06] <stormchaser3000> can i hav some help
[04:06] <Guest12528> i broke the scrren on my laptop so i replaced it with an external LCD temporarily. it only supports 1024x768
[04:07] <stormchaser3000> i am trying to istall gcc
[04:07] <stormchaser3000> and i don't know how to overide the old version o have
[04:07] <stormchaser3000> i*
[04:07] <Guest12528> open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install gcc" or open Softwre Center and search gcc?
[04:07] <Guest12528> oh
[04:20] <BvL> did you install ATI drivers?
[04:20] <BvL> ATI drivers will make a xorg should make a xorg config file
[04:20] <BvL> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:21] <BvL> Guest12528 ^
[04:26] <Guest12528> i somehow broke grub booting from a live USB. im just gonna re-install
[04:26] <Guest12528> thanks BvL
[04:27] <Guerrilla> learn to linux
[04:27] <Guerrilla> :D
[04:28] <Guest12528> im trying but the documentation is so scant.    the pages explain stuff like i already understand it
[04:28] <Jordan_U> Guest12528: What happens when you try to boot?
[04:29] <Guerrilla> well, i tell you guys what
[04:29] <Guerrilla> i hope Braden is okay
[04:29] <Guerrilla> in the phillipines
[04:29] <Guest12528> i got a grub rescu prompt. reboot tied again, got it again, so im booting from live USB now
[04:29] <Jordan_U> Guest12528: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[04:30] <Guest12528> it's a laptop
[04:30] <Guest12528> just 1 space for a HDD
[04:30] <BvL> so we could assume only one harddrive
[04:31] <BvL> now if it was a macbook i could help with grub :(
[04:32] <BvL> ive never worked on recovering/fixing bios grubs
[04:32] <Guest12528> nah at this point i could have just re-installed and been back up and running
[04:33] <Guest12528> rename /home, delete everything else, re-install, update, run a batch script that installs my apps, done
[04:34] <BvL> its a good idea to have the home partition separate from the os if thats a option
[04:34] <BvL> its just cleaner
[04:35] <BvL> also you shouldnt need to rename home, you should just enter the same username and password during the installation process
[04:36] <ewigg> Hi. I have two packages that conflict but in reality they can be installed at the same time. Can I override the conflict somehow?
[04:37] <cfhowlett> ewigg, do you work at Black Mesa?
[04:38] <j2bv16> aperture pay more
[04:38] <cfhowlett> LOL ... okay back to tech support.
[04:40] <pawan_> hi
[04:41] <pawan_> how to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10
[04:41] <ianorlin> you have to do each realase one by one
[04:41] <cfhowlett> pawan_, 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.04 to 13.10 OR
[04:41] <cfhowlett> clean install to 13.10
[04:41] <pawan_> how to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10
[04:43] <cfhowlett> pawan_, read above.  READ ABOVE!
[04:44] <BvL> pawan_ once sec
[04:44] <BvL> starting up a 12.04 vm
[04:46] <j2bv16> Mi ubicación: San Francisco de Macorís, República Dominicana
[04:46] <BvL> pawan_ open the update manager
[04:47] <pawan_> opened it
[04:47] <BvL> bottom left - settings
[04:47] <pawan_> yes
[04:47] <BvL> centre tab - updates
[04:47] <pawan_> ok
[04:48] <BvL> last line notify me of new ubuntu version: for any newer
[04:48] <pawan_> ok
[04:48] <BvL> close and check for updates
[04:48] <BvL> if memory serves that should start the version upgrade process
[04:48] <pawan_> now it giving 12.10 to upgrade
[04:49] <pawan_> but i want 13.10
[04:49] <cfhowlett> pawan_, torrent 13.10.  install.  done.
[04:49] <pawan_> i dont want clean install
[04:49] <pawan_> i want to upgrade existing version
[04:50] <ianorlin> then you will have to do 1 by 1
[04:50] <BvL> i dont think you can jump straight to 13.10 form 12.04, the easiest way to update at this point is do dowload the iso and install it
[04:50] <BvL> pawan_ ^
[04:50] <pawan_> is 12.10 lts
[04:51] <Jordan_U> pawan_: No.
[04:51] <cfhowlett> pawan_, 12.10 is NOT lts
[04:51] <pawan_> 13.10
[04:51] <BvL> no only 12.04 is LTS and 14.04 will be lts
[04:51] <Jordan_U> pawan_: Also no.
[04:51] <cfhowlett> pawan_, 12.04 is current LTS, 14.04 is the next LTS
[04:51] <pawan_> so should i stick to 12.04 lts only
[04:51] <pawan_> and not upgrade
[04:52] <BvL> its up to you, i use both currently
[04:52] <pawan_> difference between lts and non lts version
[04:52] <BvL> LTS get update for a longer time
[04:52] <BvL> and is supposed to be more stable
[04:53] <BvL> but non LTS are also stable
[04:53] <Toad_> evening all
[04:54] <cfhowlett> pawan_, LTS has at least 2 years support.  NON-lts = 9 months support.  choose
[04:54] <Toad_> are there any parallel port experts available to help a newbie?
[04:55] <pawan_> ok
[04:56] <j2bv16> Of course Toad_
[04:56] <BvL> Toad_, im not even a parallel port newbie just tell us what you need and maybe someone can help
[04:57] <Toad_> I am trying to get a dual parallel port card using the MCS9865 chipset to work with LinuxCNC and I'm pulling my hair out.
[05:00] <BvL> Toad_ how far did you get?
[05:01] <elementary-site7> Hello upon booting I'm stuck at  stopping system v compatibility
[05:01] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i have a problem i upgraded my kernal and i got a black screen every time i boot, so i typed nomodeset and it worked but when i set it to make it permement using sudo nano /etc/default/grub it did not work and everytime i boot i either get a console or a black screen
[05:01] <Psil0Cybin> how can i fix this
[05:01] <Psil0Cybin> prior to updating the kernal everything was working fine
[05:02] <Psil0Cybin> Linux stashb0x 3.2.0-55-generic-pae #85-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 2 14:03:15 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[05:02] <Toad_> the card is installed.  I've tried following the install  "modprobe parport_pc io=0x1000,0xdd00 irq=11" and that errors out.
[05:03] <BvL> Psil0Cybin do you get a grub menu when you boot
[05:03] <Psil0Cybin> yup
[05:03] <Psil0Cybin> thats how im using my comp now previous linux versions
[05:03] <Psil0Cybin> using the old kernal
[05:03] <glitsj16> Psil0Cybin: you did 'sudo update-grub' after editing /etc/default/grub yes? just ruling out the obvious...
[05:03] <greyhatpython> hi i am using live usb of ubuntu 13.10 and mounted hard disk of the system but i was not able to copy paste files, so i tried gksudo nautilus and the gksudo not available. Please help.
[05:03] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[05:04] <Psil0Cybin> glitsj16: i did :S
[05:04] <Toad_> Where can I find the FAQ.  I'll read through that BvL
[05:05] <BvL> Toad_ FAQ for?
[05:05] <Toad_> I'm really new to ubuntu.  some unix experience, LOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGG time pc user.
[05:05] <Toad_> Ununtu
[05:06] <BvL> Toad_ thas fine, im new to parallel (last used a parallel port maybe 2006)
[05:07] <Toad_> well, I need the dual port card for the LinuxCNC program.
[05:07] <exosteven> BvL, you around?
[05:07] <ptuladhar> @greyhatpython Probably, because your hard disk is mounted in read-only mode. Run `mount'
[05:08] <BvL> exosteven yes
[05:08] <cfhowlett> Toad_, sounds like a #linux issue or linuxcnc issue.  Pretty esoteric for this channel, unfortunately
[05:08] <Toad_> thanks, I'm outa here.
[05:09] <Psil0Cybin> its set to this
[05:09] <Psil0Cybin> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[05:09] <exosteven> BvL, It's me Selekta. I was wondering if you could help me update my video driver or something. I go to stream video in chromium on this thing and its really choppy and laggy. The switch to unity 2d did WONDERS for my window moving speed though, thank you!
[05:09] <Psil0Cybin> for my permanent setting
[05:09] <Psil0Cybin> in the grub menu
[05:09] <Psil0Cybin> so i am confused
[05:09] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:09] <Psil0Cybin> after i did sudo upgrade-grub
[05:11] <BvL> exosteven is this for the laptop or desktop
[05:11] <exosteven> the crappy desktop
[05:11] <exosteven> when it was running windows, video streaming and playback was smooth, so I figured it would be here. I just dont think my graphics driver is up to snuff or something along those lines
[05:12] <exosteven> BvL, ^
[05:14] <BvL> Psil0Cybin nomodeset is a temporary fix - gave me crappy video
[05:14] <BvL> but gets you to the desktop
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> thats wierd it works for me perfectly fine
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> i still get transparency and all
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> :S
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> just after i set it to be perm it did not work
[05:15] <Psil0Cybin> what can i do if i upgraded my kernal and am getting a blackscreen like i have to use previous linux versions to boot in
[05:15] <Psil0Cybin> :S
[05:15] <BvL> exosteven, dash > additional drivers
[05:15] <exosteven> BvL, eh?
[05:15] <vanquish27> Xen or KVM?
[05:15] <exosteven> BvL, im in there
[05:16] <BvL> do you see any available drivers?
[05:16] <exosteven> its searching right now
[05:16] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, use the previous version then ?
[05:17] <Psil0Cybin> ..cfhowlett but what happends if the newer kernal after this one also does not work?
[05:17] <Psil0Cybin> i am just not fixing my issue and hoping that it gets fixed
[05:17] <exosteven> BvL, it says no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[05:17] <Psil0Cybin> i am worried that it will stay like this...
[05:17] <Psil0Cybin> i would prefer to use the new kernal .. is that not a good move?
[05:18] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, you keep the old versions because new kernels frequently do exactly what you have experienced.
[05:18] <Psil0Cybin> oh but does that not leave my machine out dated?
[05:18] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, no not outdated.  you can use older kernels without penalty.
[05:18] <Psil0Cybin> oh really? i kind athought a kernal being outdated is a security flaw? or a bad idea...
[05:18] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: Was this a normal kernel update, or from a special PPA / compiled yourself?
[05:19] <Psil0Cybin> thats kind of how i looked at it up to now..
[05:19] <Psil0Cybin> nope normal kernal update...which is why im confused
[05:19] <CiSense> hi, can i keep 13.04 and install 13.10 in a separate partition and use grub to select at boot?
[05:19] <Psil0Cybin> all i did was use sudo dist-upgrade
[05:19] <BvL> exosteven do you see a list of drivers like here http://i.stack.imgur.com/3LT2o.png
[05:19] <BvL> some gray bubbles
[05:19] <exosteven> no sir
[05:19] <exosteven> nope
[05:19] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, ask someone smarter than me the cost/benefit of new kernel use.
[05:19] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: You should definitly try to stay up to date.
[05:19] <greyhatpython> hi i am using live usb of ubuntu 13.10 and mounted hard disk of the system but i was not able to copy paste files, so i tried gksudo nautilus and the gksudo not available. Please help.
[05:19] <Psil0Cybin> well I am trying :P Jordan_U
[05:19] <Psil0Cybin> haha
[05:19] <Psil0Cybin> i just cant figure this one out
[05:20] <Psil0Cybin> i posted on the forums mean while.
[05:20] <exosteven> ive installed restricted extras and did sudo apt-get update and upgrade
[05:20] <Jordan_U> greyhatpython: What do you mean by "and the gksudo not available."?
[05:20] <greyhatpython> gksudo was not pre-installed in ubuntu 13.10
[05:21] <greyhatpython> how can i get root privilages with ubuntu live?
[05:22] <Jordan_U> greyhatpython: What is the output of "gksudo whoami" at a terminal?
[05:22] <greyhatpython> gksu is not installed
[05:23] <Psil0Cybin> gah anyone else perhaps have an idea what i can do when you upgrade your kernal and get a blackscreen and have tried using nomodeset
[05:23] <Psil0Cybin> perhaps ill try entering it manually again and seeing what will happen
[05:23] <BvL> Jordan_U, sudo apt-get install gksu
[05:23] <Jordan_U> greyhatpython: Please pastebin the exact output.
[05:23] <greyhatpython> I don't have internet on that system
[05:24] <greyhatpython> The problem is simple i don't internet on that system and i want to copy a file from that system to my pendrive.
[05:24] <Jordan_U> greyhatpython: You can use sudo and cp from the terminal to copy files.
[05:25] <sozu> Hi, anybody know why Conky disappear? Using some scripts on the desktop, but if I change to internet browser and then back again to desktop (ctrl+super+d), the conky scripts are gone again, and need to be re-launched by terminal or command to make it get back.
 so i can't use GUI?
[05:27] <Jordan_U> greyhatpython: You can also use just "sudo nautilus", but realize that it is *not* something you should do normally and can cause problems the next time you log in, but that's not too much of a concern since this is just a live environment, and will be gone once you reboot.
[05:27] <greyhatpython> I tried sudo nautilus and it didn't gave copy or paste option!
[05:32] <Psil0Cybin>  hey guys anyone know what i can do if i upgraded my kernal and am getting a blackscreen every time i boot??
[05:32] <Psil0Cybin> it shows the ubuntu splash screen
[05:32] <Psil0Cybin> then goes black when it supposed to show the login screen
[05:33] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: Please pastebin the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
[05:35] <Psil0Cybin> Jordan_U:
[05:35] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/Hhjgx63u
[05:35] <Psil0Cybin> i am booted in using a previous linux kernal atm
[05:35] <Psil0Cybin> tho
[05:35] <Psil0Cybin> so i hope it helps regardless
[05:37] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: Are there other /var/log/Xorg.N.log files?
[05:39] <vanquish27> Everyone seems to be enjoying CentOS 6
[05:39] <vanquish27> might have to run another VM and try it out over 5.10
[05:40] <Psil0Cybin> Jordan_U i will look
[05:40] <sandGorgon> I want to file a bug on the ubuntu kernel build config - can someone tell me which project to file it under ?
[05:40] <Psil0Cybin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2187136&p=12844510#post12844510
[05:40] <Psil0Cybin> i posted this mean while
[05:43] <Psil0Cybin> Jordan_U how about this
[05:43] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/bbJkpABe
[05:43] <Psil0Cybin> from Xorg failsafe.
[05:43] <Psil0Cybin> [    33.002] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[05:43] <Psil0Cybin> [    33.002]
[05:43] <Psil0Cybin> Fatal server error:
[05:43] <Psil0Cybin> [    33.002] no screens found
[05:44] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <Gorroth> does anyone here know how to turn off X in ubuntu 13.10?
[05:46] <Gorroth> i need it off temporariliy so i can run X -configure
[05:47] <cfhowlett> !paste|Psil0Cybin,
[05:47] <Psil0Cybin> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[05:47] <Gorroth> oh, figured it out
[05:47] <Gorroth> have to turn off lightdm
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Gorroth: Wait.
[05:48] <wallzero> Greetings
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Gorroth: Why are you trying to install Nvidia drivers manually rather than through Additional Drivers?
[05:50] <Psil0Cybin> Jordan_U: read what i wrote u
[05:54] <Psil0Cybin> sigh k
[05:55] <Psil0Cybin> gah anyone else perhaps have an idea what i can do when you upgrade your kernal and get a blackscreen and have tried using nomodeset
[05:55] <misterli> Hello. Im very happy to use Ubuntu in replacement of Windows 8.1 but.. after ~1-2 hours the laptop turns off because of overheathing. I used the default drivers for the graphic card. What may be the reason? its on a cooler-platform
[05:55] <saliak> I'm trying to configure pptpd so I can connect to my home network and play shares from iTunes.  This requires that multicast packets be broadcast over the VPN.  Anyone have luck setting that up?
[05:56] <cdrkeen> can anyone recommend a cheap laptop that will run steam decently?
[05:58] <pixiebit> You know how Ubuntu has driver support? How do I mimic that for Debian?
[05:58] <scipi0> hi. I just added the sources "ppa:alexeftimie/ppa" and"ppa:kilian/f.lux" and now my computer takes an hour to read from package lists. I would get rid of it but the system source program crashes whenever I edit the system sources. Thanks!
[06:00] <cfhowlett> scipi0, gksudo edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:00] <cfhowlett> scipi0, not as pretty as the gui, but it'll get the job done.  rather than remove sources, you might want to just comment them out with #
[06:00] <scipi0> thanks
[06:01] <Gorroth> Jordan_U: what?
[06:01] <cfhowlett> scipi0, sudo not gksudo ... sorry.
[06:01] <zykotick9> scipi0: note, PPAs aren't usually in sources.list file, but the source.list.d directory i believe
[06:02] <scipi0> Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/octet-stream"
[06:02] <scipi0> ion/octet-stream"
[06:02] <scipi0> It's not working :(.
[06:02] <cfhowlett> scipi0, dang I REALLY need to get lunch.  sudo gedit
[06:02] <loki5103> hello all
[06:02] <cfhowlett> loki5103, greetings
[06:02] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: gksudo gedit.... scipi0
[06:03] <cfhowlett> zykotick9, thanks, man.  long morning
[06:03] <loki5103> i am new to using linux and could use some help installing a print
[06:03] <cfhowlett> loki5103, details
[06:03] <cfhowlett> !print
[06:03] <scipi0> I edited them out... and its still slow
[06:04] <cfhowlett> scipi0, did you localize your sources?  i.e. use a local mirror, not the ubuntu main
[06:04] <misterli> is there any way that the wrong graphicdrivers causes the overheathing?
[06:04] <loki5103> i am running 13.10 and am connected via usb to a brother hl2280dw
[06:04] <scipi0> cfhowlett: yes uc davis
[06:04] <cfhowlett> scipi0, could just be a slow uc davis connection ...
[06:04] <loki5103> ive tried downloading the rpm packages through brother but no joy
[06:05] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys can someone help me im having a problem i upgraded my kernal and am getting a blackscreen i posted my Xorg error log problem here
[06:05] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/SBKzMTtj
[06:05] <scipi0> what do you recommend for socal, cfhowlett
[06:05] <Psil0Cybin> it seems that the graphic driver is not found...or no screens found
[06:05] <cfhowlett> scipi0, dude.  I'm in Beijing.  but if you run the software sources settings utility, you can test for the best connection.
[06:06] <scipi0> cool
[06:06] <SPEEDWAVE> is there ubuntu data recovery or reset factory ultilities?
[06:06] <NotreDev> what's happening on the back half of this command? `curl http://beyondgrep.com/ack-2.10-single-file > ~/bin/ack && chmod 0755 !#:3`
[06:06] <Psil0Cybin> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/SBKzMTtj
[06:07] <NotreDev> specifically what does !#:3 mean?
[06:11] <BvL> loki5103, i have a HL-2270DW ill see how much i can help
[06:11] <pixiebit> crunchbang:3
[06:11] <BvL> are you on ubuntu x64 or x32
[06:14] <cfhowlett> SPEEDWAVE, as far as resetting to factory defaults, create a new user and switch to that account.
[06:15] <loki5103> bvl that would be great
[06:15] <BvL> ok
[06:16] <loki5103> im still really new at using linux and am still getting used to the terminal and various functions.   i seem to have a handle on it but the printer installation seems to be escaping me
[06:17] <BvL> loki5103 http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public/us/us_ot/en/dlf/download_index.html?reg=us&c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=hl2280dw_us&dlid=&flang=English&os=128&type2=-1
[06:18] <misterli> oh. There  is amd ccc out for my graphic card (13.25.18). Should this used in replace to the ubuntus open source driver?
[06:18] <Jordan_U> loki5103: What was the first thing you tried to get the printer working?
[06:18] <BvL> these are deb packages
[06:18] <loki5103> i ran the lpr and cups deb packages bc im running ubuntu 13.10
[06:19] <BvL> ok, its connected by usb
[06:19] <BvL> also ubuntu version plz, and x64 ir x32
[06:19] <loki5103> now it is...before it was networked
[06:19] <BvL> *or
[06:19] <loki5103> 13.10 x64
[06:20] <BvL> thanks, HL-2270DW only has x32 dirvers, but yours looks like it has x64
[06:20] <BvL> so it should be more simple to setup
[06:20] <BvL> its a multi function?
[06:20] <BvL> or just duplex printer
[06:20] <loki5103> laser with copier
[06:21] <loki5103> should be similar to yours
[06:21] <BvL> yes mine is duplex only
[06:21] <BvL> ok, to get the printing working
[06:22] <BvL> dash > type "printers"
[06:24] <Jordan_U> loki5103: What do you mean by "ran the lpr and cups deb pacakges"? What did you actually do?
[06:26] <Jordan_U> loki5103: Did you ever try just adding the printer via the "Printers" section of gnome-control-center?
[06:28] <existensil> So, I installed some updates and a few new packages (mysql-server, redis-server, build-essential, and some other dev/command line stuff) and after restarting I can't get to unity. I just get a black screen.
[06:28] <existensil> Anyone have any ideas for why that might be? the login screen works fine
[06:28] <existensil> I thought maybe it could be my users config so I used adduser to add another user, and that user gets a black screen too upon login
[06:28] <existensil> mouse is still present but no UI
[06:29] <existensil> not seeing anyting obvious in various /var/log entries i've cat'ed
[06:29] <existensil> but i might not be looking in the right place
[06:31] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys how can i diganose a blackscreen after a kernal upgrade
[06:31] <Psil0Cybin> i tried nomodeset and it does not work
[06:31] <Psil0Cybin> what can i attempt next
[06:32] <dannymichel> is it normal for no changes when changing hinting on fonts in gimp http://d.pr/v/2Bsc ?
[06:33] <existensil> Psil0Cybin: I am having the same trouble. What is nomodeset?
[06:33] <Psil0Cybin> existensil: are you using an ascer aspire one by any chance
[06:33] <existensil> nope
[06:33] <Psil0Cybin> nomodeset is a peramiter you can use on boot it helps fix some problems
[06:33] <existensil> heh
[06:33] <Psil0Cybin> with blackscreens
[06:33] <pneftali> hi guys - i have accidentally executed this command: mv /* ../my-new-folder
[06:33] <Psil0Cybin> so try restarting now
[06:33] <Psil0Cybin> hit E
[06:33] <Psil0Cybin> and type nomodset and ctrl+x
[06:33] <Psil0Cybin> on the kernal image
[06:34] <existensil> ah, i'll give that a try. might also try previous kernel
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> existensil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[06:34] <pneftali> is there a way to undo it ?
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> im using a previous kernal existensil
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> but im rying to get the new ojne working
[06:34] <pneftali> basically all system files have been moved to a different folder
[06:35] <pneftali> is there a way to put them back to / ?
[06:36] <BuntuFuntu> Maybe use the mv command to move them back from new folder back to /?
[06:38] <pneftali> BuntuFuntu: i'm in the folder right now but can;t execute 'mv' command from here
[06:38] <pneftali> or any system command
[06:38] <pneftali> cp, rm
[06:39] <BuntuFuntu> Hmm I don't know what I'd do then except reinstall Ubuntu.
[06:39] <geirha> bin/mv */ /
[06:39] <BuntuFuntu> What geirha said.
[06:39] <geirha> assuming you've cd-ed into my-new-folder
[06:39] <pneftali> geirha: where should I execute that command ?
[06:40] <pneftali> ah ok leme try
[06:40] <Psil0Cybin> if i cannot fix this problem
[06:40] <pneftali> so this will move the bin folder back to / right ?
[06:40] <Psil0Cybin> im thinking of removing the newest kernal
[06:40] <Psil0Cybin> annoying
[06:40] <Psil0Cybin> i cant figure out why im getting this black screen >.<
[06:42] <Jordan_U> pneftali: cd my-new-folder && sudo bin/mv */ /
[06:42] <pneftali> i just tried
[06:42] <pneftali> bin/mv says no folder
[06:43] <Jordan_U> pneftali: Are you sure that you cd-ed into the directory first? Also, where possible, please try to give exact error messages.
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> anyone?
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2187136
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> having problem with new kernal upgrade blackscreen
[06:46] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: can you post you dmesg
[06:46] <hitsujiTMO> your*
[06:47] <svector> my ubuntu 13 hp pavilion gives me No Signal on an external monitor
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: here is my Xorg Error
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/0PkgWSrT
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> and ill post my dmesg
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> now
[06:47] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you also don't need nomodeset for that gpu
[06:47] <svector> I have confirmed that the cable and monitor are working fine
[06:48] <Psil0Cybin> dmesg hitsujiTMO
[06:48] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/c7gr2sMh
[06:48] <gr33n7007h>  Psil0Cybin, try changing nomodeset with vesafb.nonsense=1
[06:48] <svector> could it be from the OS or missing drivers
[06:48] <svector> ?
[06:49] <Psil0Cybin> gr33n7007h:
[06:49] <Psil0Cybin> im going to write that down and try it
[06:49] <Psil0Cybin> one second
[06:50] <Psil0Cybin> so instead of nomodeset do vesafb.nonsense=1
[06:50] <gr33n7007h> yes
[06:50] <Psil0Cybin> k
[06:50] <Psil0Cybin> give me four minutes
[06:50] <Jordan_U> pneftali: Are  you still there?
[06:50] <Psil0Cybin> trying it now
[06:50] <gr33n7007h> ok
[06:52] <pneftali> Jordan_U: Yes, still here. And yes, i cd-ed to the new directory first
[06:54] <carmelia> hi all, what is the equivalent of updatedb in ubuntu?
[06:54] <Jordan_U> pneftali: What is the exact path to this new directory?
[06:54] <pneftali> Jordan_U: /home/new-directory
[06:55] <carmelia> found it thx
[06:56] <Jordan_U> pneftali: It's literrally called "new-directory"?
[06:57] <pneftali> Jordan_U: No. It's name of site with uuid at the end.
[06:57] <Jordan_U> carmelia: updatedb
[06:57] <Psil0Cybin> gr33n7007h:
[06:57] <Psil0Cybin> i think you are a god bro :P
[06:57] <Psil0Cybin> i think that command work flawlessly.
[06:57] <Psil0Cybin> worked*
[06:58] <Psil0Cybin> 3.2.0-56-generic-pae !! skys are blue!!
[06:58] <Jordan_U> pneftali: OK, are you just not using the actual name because it's long to type?
[06:58] <gr33n7007h> Psil0Cybin, it was worth a shot!
[06:58] <geirha> pneftali: does  echo [b]in/mv   output  bin/mv ?
[06:58]  * Psil0Cybin sings sunshine lollypops and rainbows....yadda yadda
[06:59] <pneftali> Jordan_U: Not gonna publicly type here the name of the site for security reasons :)
[06:59] <Psil0Cybin> okay now guys sort of a silly question, but might as well ask it and learn it how do i remove the REALLY REALLY old kernels that are piling up on my install :) just to make my computer
[06:59] <Psil0Cybin> boot super fast.
[07:00] <Psil0Cybin> would i do it with synap package manager?
[07:00] <pneftali> geirha: echoing mv outputs no command found
[07:00] <fahadash> I installed xubuntu through software center... Now youtube videos are choppy, the system is very slow in launching programs and responding to inputs... What should I check ?
[07:00] <[Gentoo]> Psil0Cybin: wont affect the boot speed at all
[07:00] <Psil0Cybin> [Gentoo]: oh really?
[07:00] <[Gentoo]> as you only boot into 1 kernel
[07:00] <Psil0Cybin> ah makes sense
[07:00] <Psil0Cybin> not even the grub?
[07:01] <[Gentoo]> wont affect anything exceopt disk space
[07:01] <Psil0Cybin> okay, so how many kernels is it going to keep saving? do i remove it manually, or does it keep lets say ten and then rotate and remove the really old ones
[07:01] <pneftali> anyway guys, thanks for support. It's now relayed over to other guys for them to fix.
[07:01] <Jordan_U> pneftali: That doesn't make sense since echo is a shell builtin. Are you sure you typed it correctly?
[07:01] <Psil0Cybin> and if i want to then go ahead and save the diskspace [Gentoo] what would i do ? use the synap package manager? and manually remove the old ones?
[07:01] <Psil0Cybin> or is it not recommended.
[07:01] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you have to remove manually
[07:01] <Jordan_U> pneftali: Does "echo /home/new-folder/*" list any files?
[07:01] <geirha> pneftali: That's odd. If you're in bash, echo should be built in
[07:02] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okay, so how would I remove them manually from the terminal lets say?
[07:02] <Psil0Cybin> like im using 3.2.0-56-generic-pae but i have 3.2.0-28-generic-pae
[07:02] <Psil0Cybin> which is very old
[07:02] <Psil0Cybin> and not needed.
[07:02] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: start off with listing the packages involved: sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep "linux-"
[07:03] <geirha> pneftali: Now, the actual error message may have been that it couldn't find the libs mv need, if so, you might need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH or similar
[07:03] <[Gentoo]> Psil0Cybin: i try to help with general questions im not too sure about the ubuntu way to do it
[07:03] <geirha> but since you don't paste the exact error message, it's hard to tell
[07:04] <Psil0Cybin> okay hitsujiTMO i got the list
[07:04] <gr33n7007h> Psil0Cybin, just sudo apt-get purge <linux-image> that you don't need
[07:05] <pneftali> geirha: Yep. I tried similar approach setting the LD_LIBRARY_PATH but same result. No worries guys, they are prolly gonna build another one I guess.
[07:05] <Psil0Cybin> oh so i would do like
[07:05] <Psil0Cybin> sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic-pae lets say?
[07:05] <gr33n7007h> Psil0Cybin, You got it!
[07:05] <geirha> pneftali: Booting the live session and moving them back from there is an option
[07:05] <Psil0Cybin> thanks :D!
[07:05] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: anything thats older than your current working kernel
[07:05] <Psil0Cybin> you guys are the beeest
[07:06] <Psil0Cybin> no joke 1 year ago i KNEW nothing about linux, you guys on this channel taught me everyyything :D
[07:06] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: also purge linux-headers-  for those kernels too
[07:06] <Psil0Cybin> who needs school when you have IRC ;)
[07:06] <Psil0Cybin> peerfect thanks for the tip!!
[07:06] <pneftali> geirha: Noted. Thanks a bunch :)
[07:07] <Jordan_U> pneftali: But this type of problem is fun to try to fix :) We haven't even tried using busybox utils (which are statically compiled).
[07:07] <pneftali> Jordan_U: Not when you still have lots of pending programming tasks to work with :D
[07:08] <geirha> Jordan_U: I guess we'll have to install Ubuntu in a vm and try doing the same :)
[07:10] <Psil0Cybin> wow deleting all those old kernals
[07:10] <Psil0Cybin> is sure gaining back storage
[07:10] <Psil0Cybin> its like 111mbs/kernel
[07:11] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: the headers alone take up most of the space
[07:11] <[Gentoo]> bloat :)
[07:11] <Psil0Cybin> ugh what sucks is i really want to remove my windows 7 partition but i cannot because i cannot remove that partition and resize my ubuntu partition to take up the whole computer
[07:11] <Psil0Cybin> i need to back up properly
[07:11] <Psil0Cybin> is there any other way perhaps to remove a windows 7 partition and resize an ubuntu partition
[07:11] <Psil0Cybin> witout causing corruption?
[07:12] <Psil0Cybin> perhaps using gparted
[07:12] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: doing so could really upset grub
[07:12] <Psil0Cybin> darn >.<
[07:12] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: Why do you'll get any corruption?
[07:12] <Psil0Cybin> i want windows off of here >.< without formatting
[07:13] <[Gentoo]> Psil0Cybin: how much free space do you have at the end of ubuntu partition?>
[07:13] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: *Why do you think you'lll get any corruption?
[07:13] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: it depends on how your partitions are reffered to in grub and fstab. if they're called by device, then it can defo cause problems. by UUID will be less problematic
[07:13] <Psil0Cybin> someone said because i installed ubuntu after windows 7
[07:13] <Psil0Cybin> i will get corruptions or problems
[07:13] <Psil0Cybin> removing windows 7 and resizing ubuntu
[07:13] <Psil0Cybin> my ubuntu partition is 48 gbs but my windows is 256 gbs
[07:13] <Psil0Cybin> i want to remove windows and have ubuntu take up the whole hard drive
[07:14] <Psil0Cybin> i havent used windows in over a year and its a 256Gb Waste of space!
[07:14] <Psil0Cybin> that is ticking me off
[07:14] <Psil0Cybin> i wish i knew i would fall in love with linux before i would have set this up properly from the start
[07:14] <[Gentoo]> you could do it, make a new partition at the end of ubuntu, rsync the data over, or clonezilla the partition only, delete windows and ubuntu and rsync it back and redo grub
[07:14] <Psil0Cybin> i was expecting to not like linux and never use it again
[07:15] <Psil0Cybin> is that hard to do [Gentoo] if im fairly new to linux
[07:15] <Psil0Cybin> like 1 year old user
[07:15] <Psil0Cybin> im up for it though when i have free time
[07:15] <[Gentoo]> how much space is in use on the ubuntu partition
[07:15] <wheatthin> as this is #ubuntu, I'd recommend that :)
[07:15] <Psil0Cybin> how can i find out forsure
[07:15] <Psil0Cybin> what is the proper command
[07:15] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: That's nonsense. You can resize an ext4 partition, and the order that the partitions were created in doesn't change that. The only possible issue is that it requires *much* more moving of data to resize "to the left" (it's easier to resize into free space at the end of a drive than the beginning).
[07:16] <Psil0Cybin> oh really??
[07:16] <Psil0Cybin> see i know nothing about resizing hard drives properly
[07:16] <Psil0Cybin> and partitions :(
[07:16] <[Gentoo]> Psil0Cybin: it can take a long long time
[07:16] <Psil0Cybin> so...ill leave it running all day and night
[07:16] <Psil0Cybin> i dont mind
[07:16] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[07:17] <Psil0Cybin> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/xjGXdbNi
[07:18] <Psil0Cybin> i am just wondering if it is better to format and backup everything (themes,changes,etc)
[07:19] <Psil0Cybin> then do the task of making a new partition moving it all over, and back and forth
[07:19] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: You should already have backups of anything important.
[07:19] <Psil0Cybin> That is true.
[07:19] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: have you 320gb free on an external drive? you can dd the entire disk to an image and be free to do whatever knowing you can always go back to your backup
[07:20] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: that is very true
[07:20] <Psil0Cybin> never thougth of that but i do not
[07:20] <Psil0Cybin> how long would it take to make a image that big
[07:20] <Psil0Cybin> lmao
[07:20] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: It depends on how long you think it will take you to get back to the state you want. It will almost certainly be faster to re-install than to move 64 GiB of data, but configuring things from a fresh install to what you want is another question.
[07:21] <Psil0Cybin> that is true
[07:21] <Psil0Cybin> perhaps i will do a fresh install
[07:21] <BuntuFuntu> Ubuntu resides on my laptops 225gb HDD
[07:21] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: prob about 3 to 6 hours depending
[07:21] <Psil0Cybin> and just encrypt my partition from the start ;) to make it worth it
[07:21] <BuntuFuntu> 250*
[07:22] <Psil0Cybin> i guess now that i know moe about linux
[07:22] <Psil0Cybin> a fresh install would be better..
[07:22] <Psil0Cybin> start clean
[07:22] <hitsujiTMO> I just have a 60gb ssd for ubuntu on this laptop. it's all i need for it :)
[07:23] <BuntuFuntu> No trace of Windows on my HDD ^.^
[07:23] <Psil0Cybin> BuntuFuntu: jelous
[07:23] <Psil0Cybin> i want windows to gtfo
[07:23] <Psil0Cybin> only thing you need windows for
[07:24] <[Gentoo]> is antivirus
[07:24] <Psil0Cybin> is a 10gb partition with only adobe photoshop
[07:24] <Psil0Cybin> disconnect it from the internet
[07:24] <Psil0Cybin> thats thats the only use for windows for me
[07:24] <Psil0Cybin> only till gimp gets a little better.
[07:24] <Psil0Cybin> then windows is obsolete in my eyes.
[07:24] <[Gentoo]> gimp will never be anywhere near as good as photoshop
[07:24] <Psil0Cybin> well tell bill he can say thanks to adobe
[07:24] <[Gentoo]> but photoshop is one of them programs
[07:24] <Psil0Cybin> because without adobe hes nothing :)
[07:25] <BuntuFuntu> I told Windows to gtfo this summer.
[07:25] <Psil0Cybin> haha
[07:25] <BuntuFuntu> Linux resides more happily on my HDD. Uses resources more efficiently.
[07:25] <Psil0Cybin> ;)
[07:25] <BuntuFuntu> Hell, this Lenovo S100 even came with linux(:
[07:26] <BuntuFuntu> MeeGo, to be exact.
[07:26] <Psil0Cybin> linux honestly blows my mind how something that can be free, litterely blows windows out of the water
[07:26] <Psil0Cybin> when it comes to productivity, customizations, almost everything
[07:26] <BuntuFuntu> Psilo, Ikr?
[07:26] <Psil0Cybin> lkr?
[07:26] <BuntuFuntu> ^.^
[07:26] <BuntuFuntu> Something so free, can look soooooo nice.
[07:26] <Psil0Cybin> whats lkr lol
[07:26] <BuntuFuntu> ikr: I know, right?
[07:27] <[Gentoo]> linux is pretty common on desktop now
[07:27] <Psil0Cybin> haha yea [Gentoo] not really, everyone who sees me use linux
[07:27] <Psil0Cybin> gives me a 0.o
[07:27] <[Gentoo]> couple of years ago the average joe hadnt even heard of it
[07:27] <Psil0Cybin> except a few kids in a college beside my university cuz they study linux
[07:27] <Psil0Cybin> im going to switch programs, i never knew i could learn linux in school
[07:27] <Psil0Cybin> but our school works on fedora core
[07:27] <Psil0Cybin> :S
[07:27] <Psil0Cybin> and is part of the mozilla team
[07:27] <BuntuFuntu> Yeah noone in my high school works on Linux
[07:28] <Psil0Cybin> well when u get older man look into it for a job
[07:28] <Psil0Cybin> i was never told this stuff
[07:28] <Psil0Cybin> my biggest regret
[07:28] <Psil0Cybin> i do all this linux for fun :S
[07:28] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:28] <[Gentoo]> most peopple do
[07:28] <BuntuFuntu> I asked the IT Guy why we don't because it's free and stuff
[07:28] <BuntuFuntu> He's like : Well Microsoft gave us a district wide license.
[07:29] <BuntuFuntu> Well yeah, but it cost monies. ._.
[07:29] <Psil0Cybin> lol same with my high school
[07:29] <Psil0Cybin> dude they gave me a laptop becasue i had ADD, i formatted it even though they put deep freeze on it
[07:29] <Psil0Cybin> put linux
[07:29] <Psil0Cybin> gave it back to them 2 years later
[07:29] <Psil0Cybin> they thought it was a virus
[07:29] <Psil0Cybin> !! a friggin virus
[07:29] <[Gentoo]> the thing is most people dont have the time for linux, even on ubuntu you need to do tweaks now and then
[07:29] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <Psil0Cybin> they said my virus removed there deep freeze
[07:29] <Psil0Cybin> and i broke this rule and blah blah blah and its not a personal computer
[07:29] <Psil0Cybin> its an educational tool
[07:30] <BuntuFuntu> Lol my computer I got second hand from a school.
[07:30] <BuntuFuntu> They didn't remove their stupid login to the school server thing
[07:30] <Psil0Cybin> LOL
[07:30] <BuntuFuntu> so I said screw it. Downloaded ubuntu onto a flash drive.
[07:31] <BuntuFuntu> Well actually I used Puppy Linux at first on this
[07:31] <BuntuFuntu> Wiped windows, Installed Puppy.
[07:31] <BuntuFuntu> Great OS, doesn't support all hardware doe. They use an older kernel for Lucid Pup.. my touchpad didnt work
[07:31] <Psil0Cybin> Honestly man highschool are so bad when it comes to security, thats all im going to say ;) would be very very easy to change your grades.
[07:31] <west> how do i bluetooth files to ubuntu.
[07:32] <Psil0Cybin> west: do you see the bluetooth applet?
[07:32] <Psil0Cybin> within the unity application bar?
[07:32] <BuntuFuntu> Oh defo psilo(:
[07:32] <BuntuFuntu> I love Ubuntu's status bar at the top. Reminds me of a cellphone.
[07:33] <west> Psil0Cybin, where would it be.
[07:33] <west> Psil0Cybin, oh bluetooth manager. found it. but last time i had trouble using it.
[07:34] <Psil0Cybin> west: to be honest, i never use it.. i disabled bluetooth (no use for it) but the manager should work what was the trouble using it? exactly?
[07:35] <Psil0Cybin> check if perhaps bluetooth is disabled in your application startup
[07:35] <FZombie> this 13.04-13.10 + switch from ubuntu to xubuntu is taking forever. Someone entertain me while I watch the Setting up and Installing scroll by.
[07:36] <[Gentoo]> FZombie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
[07:36] <FZombie> #ubuntu pulls trough again, good job [Gentoo]
[07:36] <west> Psil0Cybin, seems all the options are greyed out.
[07:36] <Psil0Cybin> west: if that is the case, check if your startup application has bluetooth checked off or unchecked
[07:37] <Psil0Cybin> also perhaps your keyboard has bluetooth turned off?
[07:37] <west> how do i check through terminal if it is on. like with wifi.
[07:37] <Psil0Cybin> try
[07:37] <Psil0Cybin> 'hcitool dev'
[07:37] <Psil0Cybin> it will show all your devices turned on
[07:37] <FZombie> That guy has too many changes of clothes, he should have stayed in the trenchcoat
[07:38] <Psil0Cybin> or adapters i think
[07:40] <BuntuFuntu> Well time to go to bed. Night(:
[07:40] <Psil0Cybin> good night brother.
[07:41] <west> hcitool dev reads out Devices: and thats it.
[07:41] <west> and where is application startup
[07:42] <west> im looking
[07:42] <west> oh it's under sesions and startup
[07:42] <Psil0Cybin> yea yea
[07:42] <Psil0Cybin> do you see it?
[07:42] <Psil0Cybin> sorry I am semi new too, so we are doing this via GUI.
[07:43] <Psil0Cybin> brb i need to walk my dog got lost on irc should have walked her 2 hours ago.
[07:43] <west> in startup bluetooth applet and manager are checked. do I need both checked?
[07:44] <Psil0Cybin> hmm that is odd, that it is grayed out...do you have a bluetooth driver properly installed?
[07:44] <Psil0Cybin> you cannot see any devices correct?
[07:44] <west> under hcitool dev nothing
[07:44] <Psil0Cybin> via the gui for bluetooth applet
[07:45] <Psil0Cybin> sorry gimme like 20 mins to walk the pooch ill help you / learn how too help you
[07:45] <Psil0Cybin> while helping you
[07:45] <west> ok.
[07:45] <Kartagis> I am using ubuntu 13.10, and whenever I get a notification from skype, my sound card goes 'buzzzzz'. any ideas?
[07:45] <west> i keep working at it
[07:46] <gr33n7007h> west, type in terminal: bluetoothd -u
[07:47] <west> gr33n7007h, it reads out ... D-Bus setup failed: Connection ":1.55" is not allowed to own the service "org.bluez" due to security policies in the configuration file
[07:48] <gr33n7007h> west, maybe sudo
[07:49] <west> with sudo it says ...  D-Bus setup failed: Name already in use
[07:50] <gr33n7007h> west, Leave a few minutes, then try again, then go to bluetooth applet should be un-greyed
[07:52] <TheKingOfPoon> hello :)
[07:53] <west> ok
[07:53] <TheKingOfPoon> hm, well alright then
[07:54] <TheMas3212> Um is anyone available that would be willing to help me?
[07:54] <TheKingOfPoon> cha need?
[07:54] <TheMas3212> I use 13.04 64bit
[07:55] <TheMas3212> and since an update yesterday pulseaudio isn't seeing any sound cards but if i run eg rhythmbox with sudo the sound works fine?
[07:56] <Psil0Cybin> gr33n7007h: hey i just restarted my computer 5 times and out of 5 times 3 times i got the blackscreen again, what can i do because vesafb.nonsense=1 does not seem to work
[07:56] <Psil0Cybin> its clearly my video card driver with the new kernal
[07:57] <Psil0Cybin> like im resorting back to the old kernel
[07:57] <Psil0Cybin> what are other commands i can try other then nomodset and vesafb.nonsense=1
[07:58] <Psil0Cybin> i really want to fix and diagnose this blackscreen problem with this newer kernel asap :P
[08:00] <gr33n7007h> Psil0Cybin, I'v got no more solutions i'm afraid.
[08:03] <wheatthin> Psil0Cybin, have you tried changing bitrate?
[08:04] <Psil0Cybin> wheatthin: how would i change bitrate?
[08:04] <Psil0Cybin> sorry the old kerne;l worked fine so i never played with this stuff before
[08:05] <wheatthin> ahh ok, if the old kernel worked fine, then you need to reinstall your graphics drivers for the newer kernel
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> wheathin god darn it
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> but would i then have to reinstall it every kernel update?
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> how come it would work randomly
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> like for 3 reboots it would not work but then 2 times it would work fine
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> :S
[08:06] <wheatthin> cause not every update is a kernel update
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> wheatthin: is it hard to build drivers from scratch?
[08:07] <Psil0Cybin> im a little nervous
[08:07] <Psil0Cybin> but i like using the nwest kernels
[08:07] <wheatthin> Psil0Cybin, you don't need to build from scratch.. just reinstall them lol
[08:07] <Psil0Cybin> using the additional drivers?
[08:07] <wheatthin> yup
[08:07] <Psil0Cybin> oh actually....
[08:07] <Psil0Cybin> that easy?
[08:07] <Psil0Cybin> but i have to be in the problematic kernel
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> to do it right?
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> so i have to keep rebooting till i finally get in
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> and reinstall the drivers?
[08:08] <wheatthin> yup.. so you can update it through apt-get
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> but i did use apt-get
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> and nothing happend
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> when i was on the problematic kernel
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> it said i was up to date
[08:09] <wheatthin> no, not update.. apt-get reinstall <drivername>
[08:09] <hitsujiTMO> wheatthin: there's no drivers for his gfx card. its a gma3600 so he can only use vesa
[08:09] <Psil0Cybin> its like cedarview or something
[08:09] <Psil0Cybin> other then the default
[08:09] <Psil0Cybin> darn so whta should i do
[08:09] <wheatthin> intel drivers
[08:09] <hitsujiTMO> wheatthin: there are no drivers for the gma3600
[08:11] <gr33n7007h> Psil0Cybin, Try this one thing, remove vesafb.nonsense=1 and splash paramters, see how that boots
[08:11] <Psil0Cybin> kk so remove versa and splash?
[08:12] <gr33n7007h> yeah
[08:12] <Psil0Cybin> will try it and let you know in a few minutes :)
[08:12] <gr33n7007h> ok
[08:12] <Psil0Cybin> gr33n7007h: so i leave
[08:12] <Psil0Cybin> splash
[08:12] <Psil0Cybin> atm right?
[08:12] <gr33n7007h> no remove both
[08:12] <Psil0Cybin> so remove it all
[08:13] <gr33n7007h> vesa and splash yes
[08:13] <Psil0Cybin> kk so i just leave
[08:13] <Psil0Cybin> quiet kk
[08:13] <gr33n7007h> yeah
[08:13] <Psil0Cybin> one second restart
[08:14] <wheatthin> hmm latest stable kernel 3.3.1 has gma3600 drivers
[08:15] <TheKingOfPoon> what version of ubuntu can i put on my 80286 with 287 co processor
[08:20] <Psil0Cybin> gr33n7007h: did not work booted me into terminal
[08:20] <Psil0Cybin> i am so out of ideas :( sigh
[08:20] <Psil0Cybin> do i just assume this kernel will not work for my card?
[08:22] <gr33n7007h> Psil0Cybin, I'm out of ideas
[08:22] <Psil0Cybin> darn okay thanks anyway
[08:22] <Psil0Cybin> for scratching your noodle for me :)
[08:22]  * snql .
[08:23] <TheKingOfPoon> ill scratch my noodle anytime bby
[08:23] <Psil0Cybin> hahahahahahah
[08:24] <pacy_> TheKingOfPoon: Maybe ELKS-Linux or Minux2.0
[08:24] <TheKingOfPoon> sweet thx
[08:25] <nonmae> hello,i have tried building omni rom just now.but i have met with some compile errors.can you help me?http://pastebin.com/5RcYrQht
[08:28] <Danato> how can I change my login brightness? Whenever I login its too dark to see anything, and I always have to change that with my keyboard keys. Is there a way to make it automatic?
[08:30] <hitsujiTMO> Danato can you pastebin the output of xrandr
[08:31] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: jst a sec
[08:32] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/kATXKKyF
[08:35] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you confirm if this commands sucessfully changes the brightness: xrandr --output LVDS1 --brightness 0.5
[08:36] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: yes it does
[08:36] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: to set it back do: xrandr --output LVDS1 --brightness 1
[08:36] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:39] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: you should be able to set that to run when lightdm starts. where to put it depends on what version of ubuntu you are using
[08:44] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO: sorry my wifi fell for a while, I might have missed something from you after you asked what version am I running
[08:44] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO: would you mind to repeat?
[08:44] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: yes what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:45] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO: 13.10 with kde
[08:45] <hitsujiTMO> ahh, what login manager are you using?
[08:46] <hitsujiTMO> kdm is it?
[08:46] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO: I think its plasma desktop or something like that
[08:48] <pacy_> /etc/X11/default-display-manager ;)
[08:48] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you try oneither thing before we continue: can you confirm if setting xrandr works with your hardware settings acpi try: xrandr --output LVDS1 --brightness 0.3          and then use the hardware button to bring up the brightness.
[08:49] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: gotta make sure they are controlling the same thing before
[08:50] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO: hmm actually no, they are not controlling the same thing
[08:50] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: then set xrandr brightness to 1 again
[08:51] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO: already did it
[08:52] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you pastebin the output of: ls -l /etc/acpi/events
[08:53] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/da409nJC
[08:54] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you pastebin: cat /etc/acpi/events/asus-keyboard-backlight-up
[08:55] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/fjXuspRD
[08:56] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: next pastebin: cat /etc/acpi/asus-keyboard-backlight.sh
[08:57] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/4X9anYk0
[08:57] <hitsujiTMO> sweet we'll be able to make a script from this
[08:58] <Danato> great
[09:00] <alfonsojon> Hello
[09:00] <alfonsojon> I was using Ubuntu 13.10, I have installed 12.04 over it and most was working correctly.
[09:00] <alfonsojon> However, upon booting, my graphics were messed up as I was still on the saucy kernel and not the precise kernel.
[09:01] <alfonsojon> Unfortunately, it appears the kernel is no longer listed in apt, so how can I go about reinstalling Linux with it's headers properly?
[09:01] <alfonsojon> I would also like to purge the saucy kernel.
[09:02] <johelish> Greetings. I'm trying to connect with a specific user but I need to run the command as root. . how do I get key from another user to work with root?
[09:02] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you save this as /etc/acpi/max_brightness.sh            http://paste.ubuntu.com/6398609/
[09:02] <alfonsojon> Try looking into su
[09:02] <alfonsojon> man su
[09:03] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO: ill try that
[09:03] <kriskropd> im on a core 2 duo:dual core running 13.04 - why might htop show both of my cpus running around 5-10% but load average looks like this 'Load average: 9.76 5.79 2.92' - it spikes every so often and does this but I can't tell what is causing the load spikes because nothing looks abnormal in htop
[09:03] <bersam> hi everybody, i have a cron on my system that run every night at 1 AM, but i can't find it in crontab -e ... mail send to my user but still i can't find anything!
[09:03] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: then once you've saved it: sudo chmod a+x /etc/acpi/max_brightness.sh
[09:04] <alfonsojon> bersam: Check you're not running it as root
[09:04] <alfonsojon> Each user has a cron.
[09:04] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: after that you jest need to get that to run when your displaymanager loads
[09:04] <alfonsojon> Try sudo crontab -e and check if it's there.
[09:04] <hitsujiTMO> just*
[09:04] <johelish> where are keys stored for root?
[09:05] <bersam> alfonsojon: actually I am running it as root ... but still i can't find it in root crontab eighter
[09:05] <alfonsojon> Check without root
[09:05] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO: done, but how do i do the last step?
[09:06] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you paste: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[09:06] <bersam> alfonsojon: mail send to root@myserver, and i check all users... i also check in /etc/cron.daily
[09:06] <alfonsojon> strange.
[09:06] <bersam> alfonsojon: i can see it running in /var/log/syslog but can't find out where it does start!
[09:06] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO: it was kdm after all :P
[09:06] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: cool, ill have a look now how to get kdm to call a script
[09:07] <alfonsojon> Hm.
[09:07] <glitsj16> bersam: i suppose you've already checked /etc/crontab as well?
[09:07] <alfonsojon> bersam, I would help more
[09:07] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you: ls -l /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup
[09:08] <alfonsojon> But that's beyond my knowledge
[09:08] <alfonsojon> I apologise
[09:08] <alfonsojon> I actually came here for some help with kernel troubles.
[09:08] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO:  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 223 10月  2 03:14 /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup
[09:08] <bersam> glitsj16: yes ...
[09:08] <hittt> Im sorry for the stupid question but i cant open any programs right now -- What was the command to print the current distro?
[09:09] <bersam> alfonsojon: thanks at all :)
[09:10] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: sudo printf "\n/etc/acpi/max_brightness.sh\n" >> /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup
[09:10] <alfonsojon> hitsujiTMO: Why not echo?
[09:10] <hitsujiTMO> alfonsojon: printf is more reliable
[09:10] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO:  Permission denied?
[09:10] <pfalcone> hittt, take a look inside /etc/issue. if that wasn't altered, you can try using that.
[09:10] <alfonsojon> Alright
[09:10] <alfonsojon> I know that printf doesn't do line breaks unless told to
[09:11] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: silly me, should be using tee
[09:11] <Danato> hittt: lsb_release -a
[09:11] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: 2 secs
[09:11] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO:  no problem
[09:12] <glitsj16> bersam: i'd do a search with gedit (or similar) into /etc for any of the mail params you can identify and see if you can track it down that way .. just a thought
[09:12] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: printf "\n/etc/acpi/max_brightness.sh\n" | sudo tee -a /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup
[09:12] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO:  /etc/acpi/max_brightness.sh
[09:12] <hittt> pfalcone, Danato: Thank you, both worked! And yeah 13.10! :')
[09:13] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: once you've that run can you restart and test it?
[09:14] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO:  sure can, brb
[09:15] <hitsujiTMO> alfonsojon: under certain conditions echo will ignore certain flags ( such as -ne ). SOmetimes its hard to predict this behavior. so i've gotten used to using printf instead.
[09:16] <Eugene_mac> Hello everyone!
[09:16] <Eugene_mac> I have just got a new iMac 14.3 with 21.5' display. It has Intel i7 processor and NVIDIA GeForce GT750M graphics card with GPU (Device ID: 0x00fe9). I have installed Ubuntu 13.10 on it (dual boot with refit). Everything works fine apart from graphics. It is clear that graphics' not accelerated. I have tried to
[09:16] <Eugene_mac> 1) Install nvidia drivers from the repository.
[09:16] <Eugene_mac> 2) Download nvidia drivers and install them manually.
[09:16] <Eugene_mac> 3) Follow instructions on http://falkvinge.net/2013/02/15/how-...12-10-quantal/ .
[09:16] <FloodBot1> Eugene_mac: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:19] <Eugene_mac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6398664/
[09:20] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO: i still had o use the buttons to bring the brightness up, although it gave me the impression that it was a bit better, at least I could see that the pc was open
[09:20] <Eugene_mac> Hi all, I have a question, pasted on http://paste.ubuntu.com/6398664/ . I'm sorry for the little mess I've created here. Can anybody bother himself with helping me?
[09:20] <Danato>  hitsujiTMO: ill back in 5 minutes
[09:21] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: cool
[09:25] <hittt> I just finished upgrading to 13.10 but Gnome refuses to work properly - KDE works fine but still reports an internal system error
[09:25] <hittt> refuses to work properly = black screen, no mouse, but notifications actually show!
[09:27] <junktext> Eugene_mac, I can't see your URL links that you posted to PasteBin, and I don't use a Mac, but generally trying to install NVIDIA drivers manually can be somewhat difficult.  Were you able to play around with any of the NVIDIA drivers that come with Ubuntu?
[09:28] <junktext> Like the ones found by going to "Software & Updates" -> "Additional Drivers"?
[09:29] <shellox> hi
[09:29] <shellox> did anyone manage to install ubuntu server with raid1 + uefi?
[09:29] <shellox> i really stuck there
[09:31] <ga_> hi , does any one can help me that does the chrome work with the 13 version ?
[09:31] <alfonsojon> It does
[09:31] <hitsujiTMO> !details | ga_
[09:31] <alfonsojon> I believe he means "Does Google Chrome run under Ubuntu 13.10"
[09:31] <hitsujiTMO> ga_: yes
[09:32] <Eugene_mac> I also have the question here, if it helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186000   ; The problem is that I don't see any drivers with the OS
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> ga_: works in Raring here
[09:32] <hitsujiTMO> ga_: https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[09:32] <ga_> I tried to install it many times and it shows in installing and then when i see after some time there is nothing installed
[09:32] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  im back, sorry for that
[09:32] <alfonsojon> Hm...
[09:32] <hitsujiTMO> ga_: run: sudo apt-get -f install
[09:32] <alfonsojon> ga_: Are any errors displayed?
[09:32] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  i tried again and it actually ddnt seem to change :/
[09:33] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: cool. lets see exactly whats controlling your backlight. pastebin: ls -l /sys/class/backlight
[09:33] <ga_> no
[09:33] <hitsujiTMO> ga_: have you run?: sudo apt-get -f install
[09:34] <ga_> yes
[09:34] <junktext> Eugene_mac, I'm off to bed, (not sure if this helps) but if you are not sure where those options I mentioned are found, they are in the "System Settings..." (that you can find by clicking the gear icon in the top-right corner).
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[09:34] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  http://pastebin.com/dxALbWub
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> ga_: install the deb in a terminal instead, the output will be useful
[09:34] <ga_> ok
[09:35] <hitsujiTMO> ga_: can you pastebin the output of: google-chrome
[09:35] <ga_> let me try actionparnsip
[09:35] <alfonsojon> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[09:35] <Eugene_mac> junktext, I'm sure there are no NVIDIA drivers there
[09:36] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  could it be related to my laptop having 2 graphics card or something like that? It uses a graphics card, and when I open a game for example it switches to the other one
[09:36] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  the model is Lenovo GT780
[09:36] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you cd to: /sys/class/brightness/intel_backlight
[09:37] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: that shouldn't be an issue tbh
[09:37] <alfonsojon> Is this a toshiba laptop you guys are talking about?
[09:37] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: after you've cd there, can you bring down the brightness on your laptop so we can test
[09:37] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i recently upgraded my kernel and after the update i got a blackscreen i edited the peramiters to nomodeset and vesafb.nonsense=1 it will work here and there but i can never get a stable expereince like if i restart it one time it will work
[09:37] <Psil0Cybin> the next it wont
[09:38] <ga_> thanks everyone done via terminal
[09:38] <Psil0Cybin> and ill get a blackscreen anyone know what else i can do to diagnose this
[09:38] <alfonsojon> Danato: Is this a Toshiba laptop?
[09:38] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: after you've brought down the brightness can you run: cat max_brightness | sudo tee brightness
[09:38] <ShapeShifter499> oh man, oh fffff I shot my self in my foot by accidentally writing a debian live iso to the wrong media using dd! The system is running ubuntu 13.10 64bit and when I realized this I stopped the write 200mb in...how do I recover the rest of the data I didn't overwrite?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: what video chip(s) do you use?
[09:39] <ShapeShifter499> all I need is /home and /etc
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: use your backups to recover data easily
[09:39] <alfonsojon> ShapeShifter499: I actually did that to my install :)
[09:39] <alfonsojon> Your'e in luck, I know how to fix it
[09:39] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: I was in the proccess of backing up when I made the error!
[09:39] <alfonsojon> Most of your data should be recoverable.
[09:39] <ShapeShifter499> *process
[09:40] <alfonsojon> You need GParted and gpart.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: then the data is gone, you have overwritten data with new data
[09:40] <alfonsojon> sudo apt-get install gparted gpart
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: the data not written over is recoverable
[09:40] <Psil0Cybin> ActionParsnip: its a Acer Aspire One, so its an Intel Chipset
[09:40] <alfonsojon> Well actually, try this instead
[09:40] <Psil0Cybin> but i am not sure exactly which one
[09:40] <alfonsojon> What filesystem is it?
[09:40] <Psil0Cybin> i am using a previous kernel to access xchat and talk to u ugys
[09:40] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: I just want the files that did NOT get overwritten
[09:40] <alfonsojon> ShapeShifter499: What filesystem? FAT32, NTFS, or EXT4?
[09:40] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  theres no /sys/class/brightness here
[09:41] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: cd to /sys/class/brightness/intel_backlight
[09:41] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: should be the standard ext4 that ubuntu installer set up
[09:41] <alfonsojon> Alright.
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: use ubuntu live cd
[09:41] <alfonsojon> Can you access a terminal?
[09:41] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: my system has not rebooted yet and I still have access to unity
[09:41] <ShapeShifter499> seems I can bring up a terminal
[09:41] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: wait, what you're ls -l /sys/class/brightness displayed results
[09:41] <alfonsojon> Reboot into a Ubuntu installer disk
[09:42] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: ok one second
[09:42] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you pastebin: ls -l /sys/class
[09:42] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: I only have a debian iso around, should be just as good right?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: as long as you cna mount he file systems, any distro will do
[09:43] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: alfonsojon rebooting now then
[09:43] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: the brightness folder doesnt exist
[09:43] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ok
[09:43] <alfonsojon> It can be a GParted live cd
[09:43] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can Danato sorry. brightness should be backlight... my bad
[09:43] <alfonsojon> So long as you have a terminal (and GParted as a nice extra)
[09:43] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: cd to /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight
[09:44] <jox> just make it cool
[09:44] <jox> like what it should always be
[09:45] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: done
[09:45] <Danato> clear
[09:45] <ga_> any tool for screen capture like in windows it have snipping tool
[09:45] <Danato> sorry
[09:45] <ga_> thanks for the help and support
[09:45] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: bring down your display brightness and then run: cat max_brightness | sudo tee brightness
[09:46] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: alfonsojon let me find the old disk one second
[09:46] <alfonsojon> Alright.
[09:47] <tga0> hey, does anyone understand how xmodmap works? I am trying to remap my keys around without much success
[09:47] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: is that working?
[09:48] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  yeah they changed different brightnesses
[09:48] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  idk if that made sense
[09:48] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  it became bright but the colors are pale
[09:49] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: is it too bright? bring down your brightness again
[09:51] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you tell me the output of: cat max_brightness
[09:52] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  i wouldnt say its too bright, when i run the command xrandr to brightness 0.5, it becomes dark and pale, and when I used the other command you told me there was light coming from the screen (jst as if i changed it with the keyboard) but it was still pale
[09:52] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  976
[09:52] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: alfonsojon found a ubuntu disk and booted into it
[09:52] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: maybe its a different device we need to change ... or multiple devices
[09:53] <alfonsojon> Okay Shapeshifter
[09:53] <ShapeShifter499> 13.04
[09:53] <alfonsojon> Is ubuntu the only operating system you have on this PC or do you dual boot with Windows?
[09:53] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you: cd ../acpi_video0
[09:53] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: just ubuntu
[09:53] <alfonsojon> Okay.
[09:53] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  done
[09:53] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: cat brightness
[09:53] <alfonsojon> Open GParted and verify that the corrupted partition is /dev/sda1.
[09:54] <alfonsojon> It should say unknown
[09:54] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  0
[09:54] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: one sec
[09:54] <alfonsojon> Or it will identify, but will have an exclamation point, which indicates an error
[09:54] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you change the brightness on your keyboard and then again: cat brightness
[09:55] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: I haven't got the desktop yet
[09:55] <ShapeShifter499> still loading
[09:55] <alfonsojon> Alright.
[09:55] <alfonsojon> Let me know when you're loaded up.
[09:56] <Jordan_U> alfonsojon: There won't be any partitions, unless the image that ShapeShifter499 dd-ed to the drive contained a partition table, and even then any partitions will not match the start of the partition that used to be there.
[09:56] <shellox> how to install to uefi?
[09:56] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  I put it on max, but cat brightness still showed me 0
[09:56] <alfonsojon> I'm going based off experience
[09:56] <shellox> i have a partition as type uefi boot
[09:56] <alfonsojon> I DD'd an Ubuntu installer to /dev/sda
[09:56] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: cd ../acpi_video1
[09:56] <shellox> on a raid 1 device
[09:56] <alfonsojon> I recovered by first verifying the partition table, then running sudo fsck.ext4 /dev/sda1
[09:57] <alfonsojon> It was even bootable after that, but then again, I only destroyed the MBR
[09:57] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  cat brightness: 100
[09:57] <alfonsojon> and the first few KB of my sda1 partition
[09:57] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you change the brightness on your keyboard and then again: cat brightness
[09:58] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  4 now
[09:58] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: i think we have a winner :P
[09:58] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  yay  :D
[09:58] <hitsujiTMO> once more: cd ../intel_backlight
[09:58] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: cat brightness
[09:59] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you change the brightness on your keyboard and then again: cat brightness
[09:59] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: ok loaded now gparted right?
[09:59] <alfonsojon> Yes
[09:59] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  306
[09:59] <alfonsojon> Let me know if anything pops up. If not, look at the structure of /dev/sda.
[10:00] <alfonsojon> Typically, it is one partition being ext4, with a swap partition the size of your RAM.
[10:00] <shafire> hi
[10:00] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: both times? 306
[10:00] <alfonsojon> If it says anything is unknown, or shows no partitions, let me know.
[10:01] <DeepBlue> http://helallinux.com/paste/show.php?id=1295
[10:01] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: it shows one unkown and a unallocated
[10:02] <tga0> my xmodmap looks like this, any idea why it wouldn't work? https://dpaste.de/jRe1
[10:02] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  no it changes as i change the brightness on my keyboard, now 663
[10:02] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: hmm so we have 2 values to change then
[10:02] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: the unkown has the name of my iso
[10:02] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  btw the brightness on xrandr is still 0.5
[10:02] <alfonsojon> That's not good, but we might be able to save the data
[10:02] <alfonsojon> The unknown one is /dev/sda1, correct?
[10:03] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: yes
[10:03] <alfonsojon> Run this command.
[10:03] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: set that back to 1: xrandr --output LVDS1 --brightness 1
[10:03] <alfonsojon> sudo fsck.ext4 /dev/sda1
[10:03] <alfonsojon> Let me know if it spits anything out
[10:04] <bingo> hello. can anybody hook me up with a great ubuntu wallpaper site?
[10:04] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: bad magic number in super-block
[10:04] <Jordan_U> ShapeShifter499: Please pastebin the output of "
[10:04] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  it ddnt change the value after i changed it to 1
[10:04] <Jordan_U> ShapeShifter499: ... of "sudo parted -l".
[10:04] <alfonsojon> Okay, try this now
[10:04] <alfonsojon> sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sda1
[10:05] <DeepBlue> http://www.mpaste.com/p/7n8VSLwgbQ
[10:05] <alfonsojon> It should say something about superblock backups
[10:05] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: keyboard control at max brightness is 765, both with xrandr at 0.5 and 1
[10:05] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: yes they are definately controlling 2 different things
[10:06] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: Jordan_U one second
[10:06] <DeepBlue> http://www.mpaste.com/p/7n8VSLwgbQ
[10:07] <alfonsojon> Alright.
[10:07] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: Jordan_U www.pastebin.com/VnsUc7z8
[10:07] <DeepBlue> http://www.mpaste.com/p/7n8VSLwgbQ
[10:07] <alfonsojon> Ok
[10:07] <alfonsojon> I need you to run that command
[10:07] <alfonsojon> sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sda1
[10:08] <FreezeS> Hi guys, I've got a dns problem on 13.10 server. If I run ping yahoo.com for example, it works instantly. However, on wget yahoo.com, it waits ~3 seconds for dns resolve. Any tips ?
[10:08] <alfonsojon> sda*
[10:08] <alfonsojon> not sda1
[10:08] <alfonsojon> sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sda
[10:08] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: i'm just writing and testing a script now, will be a few mins
[10:08] <DJones> DeepBlue: Rather than posting links, you would be better explaining your problem in the channel, generally, people won't click on random links unless they're expecting the results of a pastebin
[10:09] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: this is what I ran www.pastebin.com/HP3curzA
[10:09] <alfonsojon> I corrected it
[10:09] <alfonsojon> Not /dev/sda1
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> FreezeS: tried a different DNS server?
[10:10] <alfonsojon> sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sda
[10:10] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: look below that
[10:10] <alfonsojon> oh
[10:10] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: I also ran that
[10:10] <FreezeS> ActionParsnip: yes
[10:10] <alfonsojon> Alright, there's what I need
[10:10] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  ok no problem
[10:10] <alfonsojon> Now run this.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> FreezeS: have you tried downloading with curl instead?
[10:10] <alfonsojon> sudo e2fsck -b 32768 /dev/sda
[10:10] <DeepBlue> DJones: http://www.mpaste.com/p/uTJ36iOgpZKjYPoWBf
[10:11] <FreezeS> ActionParsnip: the problem started with php http, I've noticed it's extremely slow
[10:11] <Jordan_U> alfonsojon: ShapeShifter499: It's very unlikely that your Ubuntu partiton started at 32.8 KiB into the drive, so the current start of /dev/sda1 does not match the previous start of sda1, also it's only 1 GiB large. So the current /dev/sda1 is not helpful. Trying to find offsets relative to /dev/sda won't likely help either. I recommend that you use testdisk, or GParted and GPart, to try to recreate the proper partition table, then ...
[10:11] <Jordan_U> ... try to fix the filesystem.
[10:11] <alfonsojon> right...
[10:11] <alfonsojon> Didn't notice that
[10:12] <alfonsojon> Thanks Jordan.
[10:12] <FreezeS> ActionParsnip: if I just run curl yahoo.com, it takes 3 seconds again
[10:12] <ShapeShifter499> Jordan_U: alfonsojon  Device>Attempt Data Rescue...       In gparted?
[10:12] <alfonsojon> I believe so, yes
[10:13] <FreezeS> ActionParsnip: as far as I can see in tcpcump, the response packets come instant, it's just a matter of what the server does with them
[10:13] <ShapeShifter499> Jordan_U: ?
[10:13] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you replace the contents of /etc/acpi/max_brightness.sh    with http://paste.ubuntu.com/6398879/
[10:14] <Jordan_U> alfonsojon: ShapeShifter499: I've never used the feature of GParted before, but I would expect it to work. I have used testisk with success multiple times, but the interface is (IHMO) hard to work with. If you want to go with testdisk, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step is a good guide. If you go with GParted I expect it will be intuitive.
[10:14] <DeepBlue> can u hep me with this?  http://kthx.net/paste/14itwhc8c4rkgwk8okgsgcksg8csogc00c
[10:15] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: then bring down your brightness and test with: sudo /etc/acpi/max_brightness.sh
[10:17] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  that brought it right up
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> FreezeS: tried wget to a different server?
[10:17] <shafire> hi, ubuntu uses apt-get now, or? aptitude is deprecated?
[10:17] <hitsujiTMO> Danato reboot to test it so
[10:18] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  ok, be back in a minute
[10:18] <ShapeShifter499> Jordan_U: alfonsojon  alright here is hoping gparted does its thing
[10:19] <ga_> hi , i 13 my cursors gets invisible for sometime if i open any app or window or any processing .. is this is because of  beta version or what
[10:19] <ShapeShifter499> Jordan_U: alfonsojon  had to install "gpart" which I found was in ubuntu universe
[10:20] <alfonsojon> Forgot to mention that
[10:20] <arun_> hello !!! guys , I wanted a help for the language support and translation
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> ga_: there is no Ubuntu beta version at present
[10:21] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: that worked like a charm man, thanks a lot for your time
[10:21] <wedr> 13.10 is beta :-)
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> wedr: its not, it is released and stable
[10:21] <ga_> dear actionparsnip:  i face many time cursor disappear issues since i installed 13 version ..
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> ga_: have you tried a different window manager?
[10:22] <ga_> like its processing or having something run background ..
[10:22] <ga_> no i just fresh installed the ubuntu 13
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> wedr: the next beta will be Trusty in January til release date when it too will be stable
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> ga_: install xfce4, log out then login to the XFCE session in the login screen, is it better?
[10:22] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: np. one thing tho. can you please report it as a bug. create a launchpad account and use: ubuntu-bug linux        to report it. just state that you're calling http://paste.ubuntu.com/6398879/ from the display manager as a temp fix
[10:23] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: hopefull then they'll have a fix in for 14.04 and you won't run into the issue again if you reinstall
[10:26] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: I can try to figure how to report
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> wedr: where did you hear that 13.10 was beta?
[10:30] <alfonsojon> ShapeShifter499: Any luck?
[10:30] <Paulus68_1> actionparsnip the question should be when did you hear it was Beta :p perhaps he's been without intranet or any news since quite a while
[10:30] <wedr> ActionParsnip: i have just upgraded my 13.04 to 13.10 and faced some bugs
[10:30] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: still scanning
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> wedr: doesnt mean its beta
[10:31] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: no errors yet which is promising
[10:32] <alfonsojon> that's good.
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68_1: where, so they can be contacted and corrected.
[10:32] <FreezeS> ActionParsnip: yes, I tried several sites, that was just an example. The problem is that dns solving in wget or curl is somehow different from ping
[10:32] <alfonsojon> If this runs successfully,then the only thing left is to run a command to fix the ext4 partition
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> FreezeS: are there any bugs reported
[10:33] <FreezeS> I searched but couldn't find anything
[10:33] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: Can you tell if its the same problem than this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/765438
[10:33] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: I'm going to complete my backup if possible then reinstall
[10:33] <FreezeS> maybe I'm searching for something wrong, I don't really know what to search, that's why I'm here
[10:33] <ShapeShifter499> I was planning on backing up and installing debian
[10:33] <alfonsojon> ShapeShifter: The goal here is just to get it mountable so you can take your data off
[10:33] <alfonsojon> So feel free to do whatever once it's recovered :)
[10:34] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: then I dd'ed the debian iso to the wrong media >.<
[10:34] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: yea
[10:34] <alfonsojon> I did that too
[10:34] <alfonsojon> I actually had a customer's data on my PC
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> FreezeS: I suggest you report a bug :)
[10:34] <alfonsojon> Their Windows Vista broke (Not surprised by that.)
[10:34] <alfonsojon> So I backed it up to my PC, and then I dd'd to the wrong media.
[10:34] <alfonsojon> I wanted to cry
[10:35] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: next time I'll make sure my backup is complete before using dd on anything lol
[10:35] <alfonsojon> But I managed to save it and it even booted after fixing it :)
[10:35] <Paulus68_1> ActionParsnip: you misunderstood perhaps wedr heard it was still beta because he didn't hear the latest news that it was officially released sorry for the confusion
[10:35] <alfonsojon> Unfortunately for you, it seems to have written to the ext4 partition, not just the MBR.
[10:35] <alfonsojon> So let's just hope your data is safe (It probably is)
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68_1: makes sense
[10:35] <ShapeShifter499> I don't think /home and /etc is written over, if I can just recover those I'll be ok
[10:36] <arrun> Guys hello !!! please help me for that
[10:36] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: I'll let you know if anything happens
[10:37] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: yes
[10:37] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: might take awhile, a 500GB drive is being worked on
[10:37] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: wait actually thats for a specific hardware
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: boot to liveCD Linux based OS, mount partition(s), copy data
[10:37] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you lspci -nn
[10:37] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you: lspci -nn
[10:37] <alfonsojon> ActionParsnip: He already did, but his actual partition is destroyed
[10:38] <alfonsojon> We're trying to get it to be mountable.
[10:38] <FreezeS> ActionParsnip: seems that installing dnsmasq fixed the problem
[10:38] <alfonsojon> ShapeShifter499: Cancel that operation real quick and refresh in GParted
[10:38] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: what alfonsojon  said, I'm currently running gparted's recover
[10:38] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: :O
[10:38] <alfonsojon> It won't find anything unless the MBR is corrupted. I think we fixed the MBR already.
[10:38] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: why?
[10:38] <ShapeShifter499> oh
[10:38] <Guybrushthreepwo> Question: I was installing netflix using sudo apt-get install netflix-desktop, and I closed it out mid-installation, now when I try to start it again, it gives me some errors. How can I fix this?
[10:38] <Guybrushthreepwo> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:38] <alfonsojon> It at least knows a partition is there, correct?
[10:39] <alfonsojon> Guybrushthreepwo: Did you cancel a recent upgrade forcefully?
[10:39] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: yes a debian partition D:
[10:39] <Guybrushthreepwo> alfonsojon:  yes,
[10:39] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: debian iso
[10:39] <alfonsojon> That's fine
[10:39] <alfonsojon> Guybrushthreepwo: Run this command: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[10:39] <alfonsojon> Then try again
[10:39] <arrun> Guys hello, please help me to add a local language in my Ubuntu langauge support
[10:39] <Guybrushthreepwo> thanks
[10:39] <geirha> Guybrushthreepwo: How did you close it?
[10:40] <alfonsojon> ShapeShifter499: Run this in a terminal: "sudo fsck.ext4 -y /dev/sda1"
[10:40] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/99AwuMx1
[10:40] <alfonsojon> Hopefully, it will then be mountable.
[10:41] <xiaosaren> 555
[10:41] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: um wouldn't that just net me the contents of whatever part of the iso that got written?
[10:41] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: you've different gpu: 8086:0166   just add that your bug report title. then you can mark it a duplicate of the one you just pasted.
[10:42] <alfonsojon> ShapeShifter499: No, we're not checking for a ISO
[10:42] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: I actually have no option to cancel the recovery
[10:42] <alfonsojon> We're checking for an EXT4 partition
[10:42] <alfonsojon> Oh.
[10:42] <alfonsojon> Then just let it sit for now, when it finishes, see if it's mountable.
[10:42] <Jordan_U> alfonsojon: What do you expect fsck.ext4 to do with a 1 GiB partition that is not aligned with the original ext4 partition?
[10:42] <alfonsojon> Wait, it's only 1GB?
[10:42] <ubuntu8989> Hi there. Currently i am trying to troubleshoot my windows machine using Ubuntu live cd. It has only windows operating system. I have come to the live session. Now my problem is that i am not able to create any file in C Drive( /dev/sda1). For other drives, its ok. Am i doing something wrong?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu8989: ask in ##windows for windows support
[10:43] <alfonsojon> ubuntu8989: Boot into Windows, run chkdsk C:
[10:43] <alfonsojon> Ubuntu will not touch a corrupted Windows partition.
[10:43] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: there is a 1gb "unknown" partition with the same label as my debian iso, and a 464gb "unallocated" space
[10:43] <alfonsojon> That's not good.
[10:44] <Jordan_U> alfonsojon: Yes, because it's from the debian image's partition table, not ShapeShifter499's original one. See the output of "sudo parted -l" they posted earlier. That's why you need to run GParted's partition recovery first, to find the proper start and end for the original parititon, after which fsck can do its job properly.
[10:44] <alfonsojon> Nevermind then, I thought it maintained the structure of the old partitions
[10:44] <alfonsojon> Let GParted's recovery run through, sorry for the mistake
[10:44] <ubuntu8989> I am getting this error: "There was an error creating the directory in /media/6E901C39901C09EB", "Error opening file '/media/6E901C39901C09EB/Untitled Document': Input/output error"
[10:44] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: D:
[10:44] <alfonsojon> ubuntu8989: That sounds like a hard disk problem.
[10:44] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: freaking out but still hoping gparted works
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu8989: i suggest you chkdsk your partition in WIndows
[10:45] <alfonsojon> ubuntu8989: Verify your disk is operating properly with the "Disks" program in Ubuntu 12.10+, or "Disk Utility" in 12.04 and under.
[10:45] <alfonsojon> If it is clear, then run chkdsk from windows, as ActionParsnip said.
[10:45] <ubuntu8989> alfonsojon: That's the main problem. I am not able to get into windows. It's not able to boot because boot.ini file is missing.
[10:45] <alfonsojon> Ah.
[10:46] <alfonsojon> Get your Windows 8/7/Vista installer disk, boot it, then let it run startup repair
[10:46] <dmitru> Network vulnerability. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6398965/
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu8989: so how is this an Ubuntu issue?
[10:46] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu8989: install smartmontools
[10:47] <ubuntu8989> alfonsojon: Unfortunately, i don't have windows disk, but i do know the content of boot.ini file. If somehow i am able to create boot.ini file in boot drive /dev/sda1, my problem shall get solved.
[10:47] <ubuntu8989> I will check sda1 disk as you said.
[10:47] <alfonsojon> Alright
[10:49] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu8989: install smartmontools and run: sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda             and pastebin the output here
[10:49] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: looks like it will be a while
[10:50] <alfonsojon> ShapeShifter499: Yep.
[10:50] <alfonsojon> ShapeShifter499: I'm heading to bed soon, it's almost 6 AM and I haven't slept yet
[10:50] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: I'll be afk till then, if your still around I'll let you know
[10:50] <alfonsojon> ShapeShifter499: If you make any progress, PM me
[10:50] <ShapeShifter499> oh ok
[10:50] <ShapeShifter499> will do
[10:54] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  what is a Package?
[10:55] <alfonsojon> It's the bundle which holds the application you want to install
[10:55] <alfonsojon> The package also includes instructions which direct the package manager on how to install it
[10:55] <arrun> Guys hello, please help me to add a local language in my Ubuntu langauge support
[10:55] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: any app or anything you install is a package. since this is an issue with brightness you should be report this against "linux"
[11:00] <hitsujiTMO> arrun: what language is it for?
[11:01] <arrun> hitsujiTMO: I thing is that, I wanted to add my local language in my Ubuntu , but how can I do ?
[11:01] <hitsujiTMO> arrun: what language?
[11:01] <arrun> hitsujiTMO: the spoken language , Tharu
[11:02] <arrun> hitsujiTMO: it has the code the
[11:05] <hitsujiTMO> try: mkdir -p /usr/share/locale/the/LC_MEESSAGES            then copy the .mo files to that directory
[11:08] <hitsujiTMO> arrun: you may also need to do the same for /usr/share/locale-langpack/the/LC_MESSAGES
[11:09] <hitsujiTMO> that original dir should be /usr/share/locale/the/LC_MESSAGES     sorry
[11:10] <arrun> hitsujiTMO: done but, the language doesn't pop in the language support
[11:12] <hitsujiTMO> arrun: its not going to because its not indexed in the system. try using update-locale LANG=the.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=the           say if there's any errors
[11:14] <arrun> hitsujiTMO: can't we add in the system??
[11:14] <arrun> hitsujiTMO: http://dpaste.com/1455494/
[11:19] <hitsujiTMO> arrun: where did you get the .mo files?
[11:19] <arrun> hitsujiTMO: from launchpad
[11:20] <arrun> hitsujiTMO: I translated the pot file in it and got po and mo files
[11:21] <arrun> hitsujiTMO: check in it about the http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/codes.asp?order=639_3&letter=t
[11:23] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  Do you mind if I mention your screen name here on the report?
[11:23] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: that's no problem
[11:25] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  ok, i jst wanted to give you the credits
[11:25] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: ahh, there's no need for that :P
[11:26] <helmut_> hi
[11:26] <arrun> hitsujiTMO: so, whats next dude?
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> arrun: hmm, the best thing to do is maybe ask in #ubuntu-devel   someone there may be able to tell you how to manually install the language correctly. It seems someone is working on a language pack, but the focus seems to be on linux mint, not ubuntu. nothing heas been released yet
[11:27] <arrun> hitsujiTMO: bro , its same for mint or ubuntu !!
[11:29] <hitsujiTMO> arrun: yes, but the translations may be incomplete for certain software
[11:30] <arrun> hitsujiTMO: the main thing is I wanted to add that language in that app
[11:30] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  too late, I hope it wasnt too messy https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250051
[11:31] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: run apport-collect 1250051
[11:32] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  have to install apport first, jst a sec
[11:34] <Ragnar> Has anyone figured out how to remove the mouse battery indicator in Ubuntu 13.10 yet?
[11:35] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  now i press send?
[11:35] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: yup
[11:35] <ActionPa1snip> Ragnar: didnt know there was one specifically for the mouse
[11:36] <Ragnar> ActionPa1snip: there is one, which gets stuck at "estimating"
[11:36] <Ragnar> its annoying.
[11:36] <hitsujiTMO> Danato. once that's done you can go back and change the bug status from incomplete to confirmed
[11:37] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  done, jst saw the comments, much faster than i expected
[11:37] <ActionPa1snip> Ragnar: if you right click it and show properties, can you turn it off there?
[11:38] <Ragnar> ActionPa1snip: nope, only way is to disable battery information all together (which includes the laptop battery too).
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: sweet, hopefully they'll get a fix some stage soon. That will prob get marked as a duplicate for 765438. As it seems to be an overall common bug for intel hardware.
[11:41] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  thats cool, I hope I contributed for something even though Im still a noob, thanks for the help
[11:55] <Abhimanyu> My Ubuntu 13.10 installation is not reconizing windows 8 installation is it suppose to happen ?
[12:00] <co-XZist> .
[12:00] <co-XZist> anyone here?
[12:01] <aslan> how to lock grub with password
[12:04] <ActionPa1snip> aslan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Passwords
[12:06] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: didn'
[12:07] <ShapeShifter499> alfonsojon: didn't work
[12:18] <IJNX> Is there some configure flag to set username for some database directories on make install?
[12:19] <IJNX> I'm trying to make automatic script to install couchdb from sources...
[12:20] <Rory> IJNX: You could modify the Makefile
[12:23] <IJNX> Rory: not really since I'm downloading sources from url, then untarrin and then running configure + make install.
[12:23] <IJNX> Now I wouldn't like to do see scripts for every new version that is available in the future.
[12:24] <Rory> IJNX: Do you mean "set username" as in chown?
[12:24] <IJNX> I wan't the log file and database directory to be accessible for couchdb user
[12:24] <IJNX> install script is run by root and those files become "root" owned.
[12:25] <IJNX> now I have solved some of it file by file altering afterwards, which feel quite backward way of doing it.
[12:26] <Rory> IJNX: See, your initial question depends on the configure script provided by the program. There may be a way of doing it; does the source come with a README or INSTALL file which explains available configure flags?
[12:26] <IJNX> and since most of the databases are run nowadays by a specific user, I was hoping there is "standard" way of installing it via ./configure --setuser=couchdb
[12:27] <chrisfergusonfl> Okay.
[12:28] <IJNX> Rory: the script doesn't have any user specfic.
[12:28] <IJNX> except: --bindir
[12:28] <Rory> IJNX: Then adding the relevant "chown" commands to your script would be the best way
[12:28] <IJNX> yes, that what I was afraid of.
[12:28] <IJNX> I wonder how apt-get does that
[12:29] <Rory> well apt-get doesn't build the sources from upstream, it just installs binaries built by Ubuntu
[12:29] <IJNX> that's true.
[12:30] <IJNX> 12.04 comes with _very_ old couchdb, so sources are only option
[12:32] <ActionPa1snip> IJNX: there may be a PPA for a newer version
[12:32] <dewdgang-frank> hey everyone
[12:33] <dewdgang-frank> I'd like to boot ubuntu directly from DVD and start the bitcoin-qt wallet client without internet connection to create a secure paper wallet. problem is, that I need an internet connection to install some things via terminal. Any ideas on how to solve this?!
[12:33] <dewdgang-frank> (Im not an experienced linux user)
[12:34] <Guest19859> ?
[12:36] <IJNX> using company machines to mine bit coins outside office hours?
[12:36] <dewdgang-frank> anyone can help me out with this problem please im trying since days and days..
[12:38] <Rory> dewdgang-frank: Take a look at this guide on customising the LiveCD with a tool called relinux http://www.howtoforge.com/creating-your-own-distributable-ubuntu-dvd-relinux
[12:40] <dewdgang-frank> ahw damn thats a bit complicated :/ just want my paper wallet with a clean os thats not windows or mac to boot and shut down after creating it
[12:40] <dewdgang-frank> all these terminal commands are confusing me too much, I have no one that can guide me trough this...
[12:40] <Rory> dewdgang-frank: Well, creating your own live distro is necessarily a slightly complex task
[12:41] <dewdgang-frank> Rory just need the things that are needed to run bitcoin-qt to create a paper wallet. thats all.
[12:41] <Rory> dewdgang-frank: There's a distro called "linuxcoin" which includes a bitcoin client https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/LinuxCoin
[12:41] <Kartagis> I am using ubuntu 13.10, and whenever I get a notification from skype, my sound card goes 'buzzzzz'. any ideas?
[12:42] <dewdgang-frank> Rory okay how do I know that I can trust "linuxcoin" since I havent heard once from it
[12:42] <Rory> You don't know you can trust it
[12:42] <dewdgang-frank> :/
[12:43] <dewdgang-frank> I see I never get to safely store my Bitcoins anywhere..
[12:43] <Rory> You could download the .deb files you need to install; put them on a flash drive or something. Then boot from the Ubuntu LiveCD without an Internet connection, and install them manually
[12:44] <dewdgang-frank> yes thats what I asked in the beginning. But I dont know how exactly
[12:44] <Rory> Well they wouldn't be automatically installed, you'd still need to install a folder full of .deb files
[12:44] <dewdgang-frank> as far as I remember it cant be more than 2-3 files that are needed to run the Bitcoin-QT client (bitcoin.org)
[12:45] <dewdgang-frank> :/
[12:45] <Rory> dewdgang-frank: Run "sudo apt-get clean" to empty the cache directory
[12:45] <DJones> dewdgang-frank: Any reason for using a DVD rather than a live USB with persistance? That would give you the option to install apps once & keep them there without having to resintall
[12:46] <Rory> DJones: I assume he wants there to be no Internet connection at any point on this system
[12:46] <Rory> dewdgang-frank: Then run "sudo apt-get install bitcoin-qt" or whatever, and the deb files will be in /var/cache/apt/archives you can copy them out
[12:46] <dewdgang-frank> DJones I dont have any option to do it with a USB drive. Thats why I use the DVD/CD Boot method. And I can use the CD or DVD in the future again to create more paper wallet for bitcoin storage, because the CD/DVD will always be clean
[12:47] <dewdgang-frank> Rory yes I already tried sudo apt-get install bitcoin-qt and just doesnt work
[12:47] <Rory> dewdgang-frank: Why not? Did you copy out the .deb files and try to install them on the live system?
[12:47] <dewdgang-frank> it says some dependencies are missing
[12:48] <Rory> dewdgang-frank: That's why you have to copy out *all* the .deb files not just that one for bitcoin-qt
[12:48] <dewdgang-frank> ugh this is too complicated for me ... :/
[12:49] <Rory> dewdgang-frank: I gave you the exact instructions lol
[12:49] <j_elly> hi!
[12:49] <dewdgang-frank> yes but missing the part with the dependency files
[12:50] <Rory> dewdgang-frank: On a machine that doesn't have bitcoin-qt installed, run "sudo apt-get clean" then "sudo apt-get install bitcoin-qt" then copy the .deb files out of the /var/cache/apt/archive directory
[12:50] <Rory> dewdgang-frank: If even that is too complicated, then you could make a LiveUSB with persistance, as DJones said above
[12:50] <dewdgang-frank> I dont know how to download the missing files for installing bt-qt. how to install bt-qt thats with apt-get install, i know. but i didnt get to that point
[12:50] <Rory> dewdgang-frank: Installing bitcoin-qt will also install the dependencies
[12:51] <dewdgang-frank> Rory 13:46 dewdgang-frank: DJones I dont have any option to do it with a USB drive. Thats why I use the DVD/CD Boot method. And I can use the CD or DVD in the future again to create more paper wallet for bitcoin storage, because the CD/DVD will always be clean
[12:51] <j_elly> i am experiencing a screen-freeze-bug (?) with nvidia-driver (319.32) and gt540m on ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS. changing to vt (strg+f1 - f6) and back to xserver helps temporarily but i am looking for a longterm-solution. anybody with a clue or experiences due this bug?
[12:52] <freakynl> em1 also seems to drop link for up to 27secs at a time, visible on switch end, nothing is logged in dmesg whatsoever
[12:52] <freakynl> Hi, anyone know if there are regressions, yet again, on e1000 with 13.10 server? My server has 2 NICs, em1 has about 12% packetloss pinging locally. If it's in rest first 6 pings are always gone, switch doesn't see the mac address in it's table unless I'm actually pinging (and get response). em2 has no issues with 13.10. Both work fine with win 8.1
[12:53] <ActionPa1snip> j_elly: tried the Unity2D session?
[12:53] <j_elly> not yet, using gnome-fallback instead but with effects.
[12:54] <ActionPa1snip> j_elly: try without effects
[12:54] <j_elly> ok, will do so
[12:54] <hitsujiTMO> freakynl: it could help if you posted the output of ifconfig    and posted your /etc/network/interfaces
[12:54] <fhf> so guys is this channel releated to general ubuntu talk or not?
[12:54] <popey> fhf: support, not chat
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> fhf for chat try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:55] <freakynl> hitsujiTMO: what part of ifconfig would you like? It's on dhcp still
[12:55] <fhf> ok thanks
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> freakynl: when the problem is noccuring is both interfaces up?
[12:56] <hitsujiTMO> occurring*
[12:57] <hitsujiTMO> freakynl: are both interfaces supplied details from dhcp when the problem is occuring?
[12:57] <freakynl> don't have enough cabling there so either em1 or em2 is connected. em2 gives no issues whatsoever, em1 always misses the first 6 pings (unless network was used in the 2-3 secs before starting the ping, like dhcp client) and then still drops around 12% after that up to 27s consecutive at a time. dmesg shows no drop in link and ifconfig shows no errors/packetloss/whatever. I'm quite amazed at how often I run into issues with intel stuff lately (esp. e
[12:59] <hitsujiTMO> freakynl: ahh kk, just needed to confirm that it wasn't a config issue
[13:00] <freakynl> hitsujiTMO: afraid not :(, probably will work if I go to 12.04.3 have 2 of the exact same boxes with 12.04.1 and they work fine. That is, after a couple of kernel updates iirc, had issues with the NICs there the first time too
[13:01] <freakynl> 12.04.3 uses 3.8 tho' (this has 3.11)
[13:01] <s_faraday> hi guys
[13:01] <s_faraday> I try to make a package
[13:01] <s_faraday> but seeing this error
[13:01] <s_faraday> after "make" command
[13:01] <s_faraday> AgentModel/../Cochlea/../SocketComm/AgentSocketComm/../../Socket/socket.hh:248:17: error: ‘::write’ has not been declared
[13:01] <s_faraday> make[1]: *** [AgentModel/checkDirectionOfFall.lo] Error 1
[13:03] <freakynl> s_faraday: what package might that be
[13:04] <s_faraday> freakykyn https://launchpad.net/littlegreenbats/+download
[13:04] <Rosetta> How do I make the current logged in user a root account?
[13:05] <freakynl> Rosetta: there's only 1 root account. But do 'sudo -i'
[13:05] <Rosetta> freakynl: and what will this do exactly I just want to have root on my account all the time I do not care about the risk's I'm tired of not being able to use the computer how I normally would on windows
[13:06] <freakynl> Rosetta: go back to windows
[13:06] <geirha> Rosetta: It logs you in as root in that terminal
[13:06] <freakynl> Rosetta: unless you're installing stuff 95% of the time or changing system parameters there's no need to be root 100% of the time
[13:06] <philinux> Rosetta: read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:06] <Rosetta> kk
[13:07] <freakynl> Rosetta: unlike windows they understood how permissions should work properly for decades in *nix
[13:08] <j_elly> back again: screen-freeze-issue also with unity-2d or gnome-classic (no effects); any clue about nvidia-driver or someone experienced same bug?
[13:08] <j_elly> is it possible to deactivate nvidia-driver without uninstalling?
[13:09] <Rosetta> Sweet so sudo -i can make it so my account is always root ;D
[13:09] <freakynl> s_faraday: I'm getting the same error (and I'm on gentoo). Probably something that has been changed in glibc or kernel includes or something like that. Package hasn't been updated in 3 years
[13:09] <Rosetta> fuck you terminal sudo-ing for every action I ever wanna do ;)
[13:09] <ActionPa1snip> Rosetta: your account is not always root, just that terminal session
[13:09] <freakynl> Rosetta: no, sudo -i makes you root in whatever shell you're in currently, it doesn't do anything for the other shells/windows you have running
[13:09] <ActionPa1snip> Rosetta: and not every command needs sudo
[13:10] <s_faraday> freakynl: yes, you right
[13:10] <s_faraday> thanks
[13:10] <Rosetta> ahh balls I thought that waaas my key out of this mess
[13:10] <cfhowlett> !language|Rosetta,
[13:10] <ActionPa1snip> Rosetta: no, its a good security tool too. Running apps as user when that's all the access needed is a good user model
[13:11] <Rosetta> ActionPalsnip: I just want freedom , I don't like restriction
[13:11] <philinux> Rosetta: that rootsudo link should explain all. pros and cons. also this might improve your workflow. http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/install-nemo-with-unity-patches-and.html
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> Rosetta: its not restricted, you can use sudo and get the exact same access as root
[13:12] <Rosetta> philinux: this helped but I would like to not ever have to go into terminal and type anything to use root , I Just want it enabled when I login for ever
[13:12] <philinux> Rosetta: at the end of the day it's your machine and you take the risk. ;)
[13:13] <Rosetta> philinux: I don't mind the risk ;) I just want to know how to get the risk lo
[13:13] <freakynl> Rosetta: why did you move from win98? Should be your favorite OS of all times
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> Rosetta: so system security is low on your priorities.....strange
[13:13] <Rosetta> freakynl: to make my programming life easier with make make install ,etc
[13:13]  * cfhowlett suspects cleverly disguised t'ing
[13:14] <ActionPa1snip> Rosetta: imagine anyone online being able to access any file on your system....is that what you desire?
[13:14] <Rosetta> ActionPalsnip: I've never been hacked , got a major virus , or screwed up my bios ever since I've used my pc from the gecko
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> what's t'ing?
[13:14] <najama> !?encfs
[13:14] <geirha> freakynl: is it really that much trouble to run sudo make install instead of make install?
[13:14] <geirha> Rosetta: ^
[13:14] <freakynl> geirha: yea, that's why I run sudo -i :P
[13:14] <Rosetta> gierha: my wooooord you guys just don't get it do you!!
[13:14] <meteors2313> hello all
[13:15] <cfhowlett> meteors2313, greetings
[13:15] <Rosetta> I don't give a crap about sudo! or this stupid commands I just want root access fully
[13:15] <ActionPa1snip> Rosetta: basically you have no idea what you are actually asking for, all for a tiny bit of convenience which is the odd command every now and again
[13:15] <Rosetta> ActionPalsnip: what happend to user-friendly-ness
[13:15] <freakynl> Rosetta: oh I get it. There's nothing to keep you from being the !@#% you want to be. So here you go: edit /etc/passwd and change the UID (the number) of your regular user account to 0
[13:15] <alexbeck> Hi everyone. I am having nasty issues with latest ubuntu on Acer Aspire. Could someone look into my situation, described here http://askubuntu.com/questions/375413/been-trying-to-switch-to-linux-for-10-years-help-with-acer-aspire-issues-please
[13:15] <ActionPa1snip> Rosetta: I'm boweing out of this, I think you need to research. Why do you think Windows users get so many issues? Because the default user model is administrator
[13:15] <meteors2313> which is the best web irc client?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !best|meteors2313,
[13:16] <Rosetta> ahh ha yes the UID ;)
[13:16] <freakynl> Rosetta: and then don't ever come crying to whatever channel/forum you got hacked/whacked or rm -rf'ed all your stuff :)
[13:16] <ActionPa1snip> meteors2313: there is no single best client for anything in any OS
[13:16] <geirha> meteors2313: The one with all the features you need
[13:16] <Rosetta> freakynl: just reinstall/reformat and wala done everything will be saved on a network harddrive anyways ;)
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> meteors2313  'best' depends on what you like most
[13:16] <cfhowlett> freakynl, +1
[13:17] <meteors2313> ohkk then which are some of the commonly agreed good web irc clients? :P I'm new to irc so just asking.
[13:17] <Nanor> Hello, I'm having a problem with setting up dual monitors where one screen is a different resolution than the other?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> meteors2313, open software center.  search for IRC
[13:18] <philinux> meteors2313: I like xchat ymmv
[13:18] <meteors2313> cflolett web irc client
[13:18] <cfhowlett> alexbeck, acer aspire?  dell xps 13 works out of the box ...
[13:18] <Nanor> The screens aren't aligned properly. The launch bar, for example, is displayed half way across the screen but still responds as if it were in its normal position
[13:18] <meteors2313> sorry cfhowlett
[13:18] <philinux> meteors2313: chatzilla FF addon
[13:18] <Rosetta> Yey I'm happy now thank you so much guys! :>
[13:19] <Rosetta> just gotta reboot I suppose
[13:19] <cfhowlett> meteors2313, try chatzilla/xchat
[13:19] <alexbeck> Hi everyone. I am having nasty issues with latest ubuntu on Acer Aspire. Could someone look into my situation, described here http://askubuntu.com/questions/375413/been-trying-to-switch-to-linux-for-10-years-help-with-acer-aspire-issues-please
[13:19] <meteors2313> Also how do are you pointing messages to me mean are you writing my name always or there's some other shortcut
[13:20] <cfhowlett> meteors2313, tab complete
[13:20] <meteors2313> thanks i'll try chatzilla
[13:20] <philinux> meteors2313: see this http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu
[13:20] <meteors2313> I tried xchat but it's too buggy and often crashes on my ubuntu gnome
[13:21] <meteors2313> also it does not integrate with the notification centre
[13:21] <cfhowlett> meteors2313, a web based irc, as you requested will NOT integrate.
[13:21] <ShapeShifter499> ActionPa1snip: you mentioned testdisk right?
[13:22] <meteors2313> cfhowlett: yah that's ok but it often crashed
[13:22] <Rosetta> freakynl: So I changed my number to 0 and it said I have no name anymore so I changed it back to make sure everything worked like it did before just wondering would I need to delete the root user on the list of passwd?
[13:22] <cfhowlett> meteors2313, you're confusing.  If you want web based irc = no integration ...
[13:23] <philinux> meteors2313: you might have not installed xchat-indicator
[13:23] <meteors2313> cfhowlett: and that was cause of some bug in notification when i clicked in the message tray it(xchat) opened and crashed
[13:23] <meteors2313> philinux: i did sudo apt-get install xchat
[13:23] <freakynl> alexbeck: no offense but uh I think you still need to learn how to report errors after 10 years of trying. That's probably why it took so long in the first place :). You don't even mention what error - just that you had one. Unless there's psychics here you won't get help
[13:24] <meteors2313> so i thought that web irc would be a better option
[13:24] <freakynl> Rosetta: nah multiple users with same UID will work - just might get confusing. Deleting root is bad, apps might depend on it, so might scripts etc.
[13:25] <philinux> meteors2313: xchat-indicator is optional it's not a dependency of xchat
[13:25] <Rosetta> freakynl: Brillant thank you so much ;)
[13:26] <meteors2313> philinux: ok i'm going to do sudo apt-get install xchat-indicator, do i need to install anything else above that
[13:26] <manolo> hello everyone
[13:27] <manolo> any1 could pls help?
[13:27] <manolo> i need to make the usb tv tuner works
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> manolo  starrt with a question
[13:27] <philinux> meteors2313: you may have to set the channel notifications in xchat by right click on channel name.
[13:27] <manolo> how can i make the usb tv tuner works?
[13:28] <manolo> in ubuntu 13.10
[13:28] <meteors2313> philinux: also there are two xchat in my repo, xchat and xchat-gnome which one should I go for I'm on Ubuntu Gnome 13.04
[13:28] <alexbeck> freaky[t] it didnt say anything specific, otherwise I would have put it down
[13:29] <philinux> meteors2313: do a search > xchat vs xchat-gnome
[13:29] <ritz_> philinux xchat is better
[13:29] <ritz_> xchat-gnome needs a massive refresh
[13:30] <mjayk> and IRSSI > xchat and all :D
[13:30] <freakynl> alexbeck: ok but the problem now is there's nothing concrete in the report and everybody will just not know what to do with it
[13:30] <meteors2313> ritz_: so what do you suggest xchat or xchat-gnome
[13:30] <ritz_> xchat as of now
[13:31] <space_> does anyone know where a good tutorial on networking ubuntu and windows is?
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> meteors2313: personally i'd suggest hexchat
[13:31] <bgardner> alexbeck: Which model Aspire?
[13:31] <Rory> !samba | space_ do you mean like this?
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> meteors2313  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChat-GNOME <-- "Considered more usable for beginners than XChat"
[13:31] <space_> let me check it out rory, thanks
[13:32] <alexbeck> freakynl man I've written it all there, I've been installing linux on this laptop for years, I've been getting all types of messages. That last one as I said didn't say ANYTHING, just an internal system error or something.
[13:32] <alexbeck> bgardner acer aspire 5742g
[13:32] <Rosetta> freakynl: Do you know any good user guide books for ubuntu I'll probbably go buy one :>
[13:33] <meteors2313_> #gentoo-soc
[13:33] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | Rosetta
[13:33] <meteors2313> how do you join channel in xchat-gnome
[13:34] <Rosetta> metoeros2313: /join #ubuntu
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> meteors2313  like in any other irc client
[13:36] <freakynl> Rosetta: actually I only run some servers on ubuntu, I run many other distro's and I don't really read books, they're outdated too fast (well IT ones anyways) :)
[13:36] <bgardner> alexbeck: Well, I do have an Aspire and I was going to share my own experience - but it's a totally different model so it probably wouldn't help you much.
[13:36] <freakynl> alexbeck: always the same laptop? Has it's hardware been tested if so? You might have bad ram or something
[13:36] <Rosetta> freakynl: which are your favorite distro's ;D
[13:38] <Rosetta> oh great sound is not enabled on my UID and the sound settings are not showing anything ...
[13:38] <freakynl> Rosetta: lsf and gentoo but that's more because I can play around with them a lot and learn a lot - not because they're so useful production wise :)
[13:39] <Rosetta> freakynl: gentoo I remember trying that out a long time ago when I was first introduced to linux , I must have had like 40 discs with different distro's , tried pclinuxos , mandriva , gentoo,opensuse , ubuntu 8.0 , fedora , some weird ones like DSLinux , puppydog or whatever it was called lol
[13:40] <geirha> just puppy
[13:40] <Rosetta> geirha: all I remember it was blue and tiny
[13:50] <jery> bj
[13:51] <cloudgee1> I installed  manually NGINX server in /opt/nginx now if I want start it then I use /opt/nginx/sbin/nginx but I don't what to do when I need to restart it
[13:52] <cloudgee1> any help
[13:53] <Rory> cloudgee1: If you installed it manually and there are no init scripts available (service nginx restart) try asking in the channel #nginx
[13:54] <cloudgee1> Rory: I know that using service ..but I done it manually for some reson
[13:55] <jery> bj
[13:56] <hitsujiTMO> cloudgee1: have a read of http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/      on thing you could try is to install nginx from the repo and copy the service scripts from there
[13:56] <CoDEmanX> hey there
[13:56] <Rory> jery: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[13:57] <CoDEmanX> i wanna let a php script check for free space on a mounted network hdd, but can't find any convenient shell command...
[13:57] <Nanor> I've just installed Ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 15 and my fans area reaallly loud. Why is this?
[13:57] <CoDEmanX> df -h lists the one i'm after among others, but not sure how to retrieve just that one (grep feels a bit unsafe?)
[13:57] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: df -h
[13:58] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: i'm aware of df -h, but it's not really convenient to use for a script, i want the free space in bytes
[13:58] <jery> w7
[13:58] <josh__> Nanor, what's your system usage like?
[13:59] <Nanor> josh__, nothing. I'm sitting at desktop
[13:59] <Nanor> From a fresh boot
[13:59] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: df with awk then
[13:59] <Nanor> Though that said, it has just quietened down
[13:59] <Nanor> There's one problem down...
[13:59] <josh__> It could just be sometime in the background after boot
[13:59] <josh__> nanor: what other problems are you having?
[14:00] <johelish_> I'm going crazy! I got this cronjob added and it runs when I launch it from terminal or when I execute it from Webmin GUI but when I try to run it on a scheduled time I get this error; bash: backup: command does not exist. The command I'm trying to run is; bash -l -c 'backup perform --trigger files' > ~/backup_cron.log 2>&1
[14:00] <Nanor> josh__, I'm trying to dual screen. Whenever I plug in the VGA cable of my second monitor my screen starts to flicker like crazy and the windows aren't where they should be
[14:00] <Rory> johelish_: it is because the "backup" program isn't in root's path
[14:00] <Rory> !path | johelish_
[14:01] <Nanor> josh__, like this: http://i.imgur.com/ICyKuaZ.jpg
[14:01] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: thanks, that's better, although "w" is not a valid optio
[14:01] <jery> Rory I want to install linux multimedia?
[14:01] <Rory> jery: What do you mean by linux multimedia?
[14:01] <Nanor> josh__, it also causes the GPU fans to spin up like crazy
[14:02] <johelish_> Rory: Aha! I thought it was Path independent cuz I can run it from whatever directory but I guess cron stripes bash
[14:02] <Rory> !details | jery
[14:02] <josh__> Nanor: Damn that doesn't look good
[14:02] <Reliant> Hello. I just upgraded Ubuntu fom 13.04 to 13.10 and now I'm looking at a blank screen that shows only my desktop background. No buttons, no menus, no prompts, nothing at all
[14:02] <freakynl> I'm going crazy too. Ubuntu had 12% packetloss on em1. Replaced all cables, rebooted several times, still 12% packetloss. Boot windows once on the machine, go back to linux and packetloss is gone. That's seriously upsetting
[14:02] <Rory> johelish_: Is it an alias?
[14:02] <johelish_> no, it's a ruby program
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> jery  start with ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:02] <Rory> johelish_: Where is the actual binary (output of the command: "which backup")
[14:02] <johelish_> https://github.com/meskyanichi/backup
[14:02] <josh__> Nanor, okay so that's definitely a problem.
[14:03] <johelish_> Rory: /usr/local/bin/backup
[14:03] <Rory> johelish_: Replace "backup" in the cronjob with the full path you just said
[14:03] <josh__> Nanor, What happens if you try to change the resolution in the settings?
[14:03] <geirha> Or better, add /usr/local/bin to PATH in the crontab or script
[14:03] <Nanor> josh__, of which screen?
[14:03] <Rosetta> freakynl: when changing my UID and GID I find that most functionality that I had as my orginal un-admin user is gone like sound for instance is not even showing up my sound cards on the settings why is this and how would I go about fixing this?
[14:04] <ActionPa1snip> freakynl: what driver module are you using?
[14:04] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: it wraps long lines, that adds even more complexity...
[14:04] <Nanor> josh__, I found a temporary work around, but it's quite sloppy
[14:04] <Nanor> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2149791
[14:04] <freakynl> ActionPa1snip: e1000
[14:04] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: I meant use df with awk ... as in: df | grep /dev/sda1 | awk '{ print $4 }'
[14:04] <ActionPa1snip> freakynl: is the interface detected at the right speed and duplex level?
[14:04] <freakynl> Rosetta: I don't run ubuntu desktop's. Probably something with pulseaudio not liking your root setup
[14:04] <josh__> Nanor, of either. As in, do the settings even work? What's your sloppy work around?
[14:05] <Rosetta> freakynl: pulseaudio hmm how do I change or work with pulseaudio then
[14:05] <Nanor> josh__, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2149791
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: just replace /dev/sda1 with whatever drive you want
[14:05] <jery> problem for instalation are slowly I by no English lol
[14:05] <freakynl> ActionPa1snip: yes, dmesg doesn't log anything either, but the mac address of the nic is only findable on the managed switch whilst pinging (well was - I had replaced everything several times, many reboots and running windows once solved it.... can't reproduce any more)
[14:05] <Rory> jery: What language do you speak?
[14:05] <jery> fr
[14:05] <Rosetta> english motha fogger do you speak it lol
[14:05] <johelish_> Rory: Seems like logic! Thanks alot.. I'm trying to run the cron job in two mins.. :-)
[14:05] <cfhowlett> !fr
[14:06] <johelish_> jery: there's a french ubuntu channel to
[14:06] <jery> tink
[14:06] <ActionPa1snip> freakynl: is it a virtual PC guest OS?
[14:06] <Nanor> josh__, Changing the resolution has no effect
[14:06] <josh__> Nanor, does the sloppy work around fix anything?
[14:06] <Nanor> josh__, Then when I unplug the VGA cable everything returns to normal except the screen is dimmer and turning the brightness up hard freezes
[14:06] <freakynl> ActionPa1snip: custom build (2nd hand) HP server. ILO calls it a proliant SE1220 but you're not going to find that model, HP can't even find it if I call their support ;)
[14:07] <Nanor> josh__, It does. Makes it work fine. Will I just have to resort to running that on boot?
[14:07] <Reliant> Is it possible to remove Unity from Ubuntu 13.10?
[14:07] <cfhowlett> !nounity|Reliant,
[14:07] <freakynl> Reliant: iirc they're called xubuntu, kubuntu, etc.
[14:07] <Reliant> I already have Ubuntu installed
[14:07] <cfhowlett> Reliant, install lxde or xfce4 or kde
[14:08] <Reliant> I use cinnamon, but from reading up on my problem, it conflicts with Unity, causing nothing to work
[14:08] <josh__> Nanor, possibly. If it's an incompatibility between your drivers and xrandr you're going to have some problems
[14:08] <k1l_> Reliant: unity is a desktop enviroment. you can install another desktop and choose that one on logincreen
[14:08] <bgardner> Reliant: They (xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu) can all coexist, no need to reinstall.
[14:08] <Reliant> I don't even get the login screen
[14:08] <josh__> Nanor, have you tried using different graphics drivers from software sources?
[14:08] <Nanor> josh__, Nope. I'll give that a go now.
[14:08] <Reliant> My desktop environment is completely blank. No buttons, no menus, no icons
[14:08] <philinux> Reliant: what do you get?
[14:09] <Reliant> I get my background picture
[14:09] <k1l_> Reliant: the login screen is seperated from the desktop.
[14:09] <Nanor> josh__, Are the additional drivers fglrx-updates ok?
[14:09] <Reliant> What's the keyboard shortcut to logout?
[14:09] <k1l_> Reliant: so there might be a problem with video drivers etc and not with unity in the first place
[14:09] <bgardner> Reliant: Alt-F4 on the desktop?
[14:09] <Reliant> alt-f4 does nothing
[14:10] <cfhowlett> Reliant, reboot.  login to command line.  sudo apt-get install xfce4.  reboot.  choose the xfce environment.  login.
[14:10] <philinux> Reliant: at the background open a termninal ctrl+alt+t then dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[14:10] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: looks promising, gave me the percentage of free space, but now an error occurs, deprecated nfs file access number...
[14:10] <bgardner> Reliant: Worth a shot - sorry, I know nothing about cinnamon.
[14:10] <ActionPa1snip> freakynl: could try unloading then reloading the e1000 module, see if it helps
[14:10] <josh__> Nanor, I think so, though they don't always work. For best effect you'll have to restart as you try each combination. I remember on one laptop I had 5 different graphics drivers to toggle. Lots of combinations!
[14:10] <Reliant> ctrl+alt+t does nothing. I can use alt+f2 to get a terminal
[14:10] <ActionPa1snip> freakynl: could aslo check the connection settings and speed etc after you have booted to WIndows then back
[14:10] <philinux> thats good then Reliant
[14:10] <Nanor> josh__, Well that's my afternoon sorted! Thanks for your help :)
[14:10] <k1l_> well, that is more a cinnamon problem, than a unity problem, imho
[14:11] <cfhowlett> !cinnamon
[14:11] <hitsujiTMO> df also just gives Kb not byte
[14:11] <philinux> Reliant: try the dconf reset
[14:11] <josh__> Nanor, you're quite welcome! If you have any more problems just give me a bell
[14:11] <philinux> Reliant: then setsid unity
[14:12] <Nanor> josh__, Will do, restart time!
[14:12] <bgardner> cfhowlett: This keeps getting asked - someone needs to teach Ubottu about cinnamon.
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: what's the exact error?
[14:12] <Reliant> the dconf reset gave an error "Error spawning command line.."
[14:12] <cfhowlett> bgardner, no ubottu only responds to items actually in the repos.
[14:12] <bgardner> cfhowlett: No, I mean with the same reply she gives to !mint
[14:12] <josh__> Nanor, and the games begin!
[14:12] <cfhowlett> bgardner, true, true
[14:13] <CoDEmanX>  Zugriff auf /var/USB_BACKUP nicht mÃ¶glich: Veraltete NFS-Dateizugriffsnummer
[14:13] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: seems to be fixed after mount -a, but no clue why this happens in the first place :(
[14:13] <Rosetta> Does anyone know why UID and GID 0 is not allowing pulse audio to not play sound?
[14:14] <Rosetta> or whatever is going wrong with the UID and GID 0 with pulse audio
[14:14] <philinux> Reliant: from you command prompt type in gnome-terminal and try
[14:14] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: an odd one. a quick search of the error you stated show 0 results
[14:15] <Reliant> right now I removed the auto-login from lightdm so I can get to a login prompt
[14:15] <DJones> bgardner: cfhowlett: Using the same response to !mint for !cinnamon wouldn't be correct, Mint is a different distro, wheras Cinnamon is just a desktop thats packaged for Ubuntu
[14:16] <cfhowlett> DJones, cinnamon designed for ubuntu?  why is it not in the repos?
[14:16] <bgardner> DJones: cfhowlett Agreed, but still seems worth teaching her a bit about it.
[14:16] <DJones> cfhowlett: It is in the repos
[14:16] <bhek> Would anybody have any ideas as to why Ubuntu might drain my laptop battery a lot faster than Windows?
[14:16] <DJones> cfhowlett: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=cinnam&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all
[14:16] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: can't tell what the exact english error msg would be...
[14:17] <hitsujiTMO> bhek: you have no power management working
[14:17] <cfhowlett> DJones, ah.  silly me.  still on 12.04 LTS so my search was null.  thanks for clarification
[14:17] <DJones> cfhowlett: No worries
[14:17] <DJones> Been there since at least 13.04
[14:18] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: the english error message is "Stale NFS file handle" it seems
[14:19] <CoDEmanX> ah ok
[14:20] <toafan> I know there's a way to manually mark partitions (or maybe even entire disks?) to be fsck'd when the system reboots, but I don't remember anything else about it.  Can someone point me in the right direction?
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: it's explained here http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/nfs-stale-file-handle-error-and-solution.html the bit in italics
[14:20] <bhek> hitsujiTMO: I can't find what it is that's draining it
[14:21] <eni> hi, is it possible to add 1 extra monitor to my laptop
[14:21] <hitsujiTMO> bhek: what gpu do you have?
[14:21] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: hm ok, it's a mounted NAS, and the NAS server software might have used it for something
[14:22] <CoDEmanX> it's actually a usb hdd connected to a synology NAS, mounted on another computer (webserver)
[14:24] <ubuntoid> hi all. tell me pls, can i install php 5.5 (or at least 5.4) on my server with ubuntu 11.04 running?
[14:24] <toafan> eni: like an external monitor?  Sure.  I forget exactly how, I'm afraid, it should be in display preferences somewhere.
[14:24] <Priesty> Hi all I have a question that I can not seem to find the answer too
[14:24] <Priesty> the question is...
[14:25] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: df | grep -A1 /volumeUSB1/usbshare | awk '{print $1, $2, $3, $4}' <-- prints the matching line directly, and awk doesn't seem to pick it up. I guess i need to join both lines first. how would i go about it?
[14:25] <eni> toafan, i fixed it thanks,.
[14:25] <eni> :)
[14:26] <toafan> ubottu: !help | Priesty
[14:26] <Priesty> How can I add Ubuntu to the Windows 8 bootloader using  bcdedit, I have gpt harddrive so cannot use easybcd i will have to use bcdedit and I have UEFI with secure boot enabled and both windows and ubuntu are installed and booting correctly
[14:26] <toafan> I feel smart
[14:27] <Rory> Priesty: Is there a reason you want to do that rather than use Grub? Grub would be a lot easier
[14:28] <Priesty> I would like to set it so that i can go either way if possible
[14:28] <Priesty> using grub or windows boot manager
[14:29] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: what are the 2 device names you're looking for?
[14:29] <toafan> Priesty: you'll have to use one or the other.  Pretty sure there's no way around that
[14:29] <Rory> Priesty: Grub would be easier; it will add an option for Windows 8
[14:29] <Rory> !grub | Priesty first link here
[14:30] <jarnos> How can I report an audio bug? I have remarkable noise shown in input levels in Audacity, even if Capture channel is muted. There is more noise in the left channel.
[14:30] <toafan> easier is probably relative.  It would be possible, though
[14:30] <cfhowlett> !bug|jarnos,
[14:31] <Priesty> ok well i heard that when windows boots it sometimes switches the default loader from grub back to windows boot menu so i think i would rather add ubuntu to the windows boot loader menu
[14:31] <keyborad_apeman> hello all, trying to install fresh gnome ubuntu on lenovo T510 (was running TLS 12.04 before) but for some reason getting kernel panic - not syncing : No init found... Any ideas ? Thanks
[14:31] <josh__> Priesty, I think I may having something that can help you
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: maybe this is more along the lines of what you want: df | grep "/dev/sda1\|/dev/sda3" | awk '{ print $1 " " $4 }'
[14:32] <jarnos> cfhowlett, Bug #1250092
[14:32] <josh__> Priesty, whenever I wanted to do that I used http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
[14:32] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: the "\|"   is an OR operator in grep regex
[14:32] <josh__> Priesty, Windows program and it's fairly easy to use
[14:32] <Smilex> I have Ubuntu 13.04, yet when I go to software updater, I don't get an option to upgrade the system, why?
[14:32] <Priesty> I would to add ubuntu to the windows boot menu by using bcdedit to add a bootmanager entry
[14:32] <Rory> Smilex: Try the command: "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[14:32] <jarnos> cfhowlett, I don
[14:33] <jarnos> cfhowlett, I don't know which package I should report the bug against.
[14:33] <keyborad_apeman> trying one more time  -> hello all, trying to install fresh gnome ubuntu on lenovo T510 (was running TLS 12.04 before) but for some reason getting kernel panic - not syncing : No init found... Any ideas ? Thanks
[14:33] <josh__> Priesty, yeah that's what you'd do
[14:34] <tork_> ok, trying to get my hp LJ1018 to work.  when I run hp-setup -i, I get "error: No device selected/specified or that supports this functionality."
[14:34] <josh__> Priesty, And then if you wanted GRUB to stop showing up once booting into Linux from there you'd have to eddit your GRUB config
[14:34] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: hm no, i actually don't want to grep the free space of two mounted volumes
[14:34] <Priesty> but how as I cannot seem to get he right settings without it complaining it can't find shimx64.efi
[14:34] <CoDEmanX> let me show you the original df
[14:34] <Smilex> keyborad_apeman, https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/kernal-panic-no-init-found-try-passing-init%3D-option-to-kernel-159155/ <- Does this help?
[14:35] <jarnos> cfhowlett, For what it is worth, I have alsa-info here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=0503395519eeff03fd8ee8c9e8c292c754221f8c
[14:35] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: install pastebinit and then run: df | pastebinit
[14:35] <CoDEmanX> http://www.pasteall.org/47175
[14:35] <Priesty> One way I did get it working was to copy and ammended the windows boot MANAGER entry
[14:35] <Smilex> Rory, I guess calling do-release-upgrade in sudo did the trick, thanks
[14:36] <Priesty> but when i tried to do this again after restoring the bcd it would work
[14:36] <Priesty> would not work
[14:36] <fsloan> I upgraded to 13.04 but lost my kernel in the process. Computer will only boot into memtest86..
[14:36] <Smilex> Priesty, paste the grub entry?
[14:36] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: i need to grep volumeUSB1..., as /var/USB_BACKUP may change (mount name)
[14:37] <Smilex> fsloan, did you have enough space on /boot ?
[14:37] <Priesty> not using grub
[14:37] <keyborad_apeman> Smilex: sorry to say it does not, rescue more does not help
[14:37] <CoDEmanX> and df wraps the line 'cause of the full network address
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: what os is this?
[14:37] <path0gen> hello all. I'm locked out of an ubuntu VM on my machine bc I changed the password to something ridiculous -_-
[14:37] <Guest57109> fdbg
[14:37] <Smilex> Priesty, oh, sorry
[14:37] <ActionPa1snip> path0gen: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[14:37] <path0gen> thanks
[14:37] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[14:37] <keyborad_apeman> Smilex: ubutntu 13.04 installs with out issues but gnome version do not ...very odd
[14:38] <fsloan> Smilex: Not at first, but I tried to get fancy and write a bash script to remove all of my old kernels. And accidentally removed ALL of them ....
[14:38] <cfhowlett> fsloan, d'oh!
[14:38] <Smilex> keyborad_apeman, would it be an issue to try 13.10 ?
[14:38] <toafan> path0gen: did you encrypt the "hard drive" when you created the disk image/installed?
[14:38] <chenqisu123> when i  try installing ia32-libs, it says: "Package ia32-libs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[14:38] <chenqisu123> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[14:38] <chenqisu123> is only available from another source
[14:38] <chenqisu123> However the following packages replace it:
[14:38] <chenqisu123>   lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 lib32bz2-1.0"
[14:38] <FloodBot1> chenqisu123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <keyborad_apeman> Smilex: sorry my bad its 13.10 (damn these old eyes )
[14:39] <Smilex> fsloan, well, you could compile your own kernel (personally I find that pretty fun), or you can download the ubuntu kernel
[14:39] <keyborad_apeman> Smilex: sorry my bad its 13.10 (damn these old eyes )
[14:39] <fsloan> Smilex: Downloading would probably be easier (I'm on an old pentium 4..)
[14:40] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: can you paste the output of: df | grep /volumeUSB1/usbshare
[14:40] <bean> chenqisu123: yep, ia32 libs is gone now
[14:41] <bean> chenqisu123: in general you'll just "apt-get install the-package:i386" to get the 32 bit version
[14:41] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: http://www.pasteall.org/47176
[14:41] <Smilex> fsloan, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-saucy/ <- this might work. Go one up to see the full list
[14:41] <CoDEmanX> it's missing the second line with information i'm after
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: i see, df has a different ouput format in 12.04+ it seems. its all one line for me.
[14:42] <Smilex> keyborad_apeman, found nothing on the internet. So does Ubuntu work, but not the gnome theme?
[14:43] <keyborad_apeman> Smilex: yes thats correct, default ubuntu does but gnome version doesn't
[14:43] <Smilex> keyborad_apeman, #gnome might know better
[14:43] <fsloan> Smilex: ok, I will grab those, but I've never been in this position before. What do I do with them once I have them?
[14:43] <keyborad_apeman> Smilex: will try there thanks
[14:43] <Smilex> keyborad_apeman, I'd assume you'll need to download some gnome stuff that fixes it
[14:44] <chenqisu123> bean: thanks, let me have a try
[14:44] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: it's also a single line for me if it's a short path to the volume
[14:44] <Smilex> fsloan, the image goes into /boot. Don't quite remember where the headers go, let me check
[14:44] <path0gen> I'm encountering a pretty strange problem
[14:45] <freakynl> CoDEmanX: try grep -A 1
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: can you install pastebinit. sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:45] <path0gen> I am booting into recovery mode, then trying to use my arrow keys to select root prompt. When i try to move the cursor off of normal boot, the arrow key selects it instead of moving down
[14:45] <keyborad_apeman> Smilex: i think the issue is with grub but I tried all options when it comes to disk partition and result is the same
[14:45] <geirha> CoDEmanX: df -P
[14:46] <CoDEmanX> freakynl: i tried that, but it printed the first line to console?
[14:47] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: http://www.pasteall.org/47178
[14:47] <freakynl> CoDEmanX: prints the line it finds + one after that
[14:48] <Smilex> I got this when trying to upgrade ubuntu - http://hastebin.com/sinuhoguco.coffee - anyone have any hints as to why? (Any known issues with some source, etc)
[14:48] <Nanor> josh__, Hey buddy, fixed the problem :)
[14:48] <CoDEmanX> freakynl: that's right, but it doesn't seem to work with grep + awk
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: can you df | pastebinit               i'm wonderin is df output only that way if going to tty
[14:48] <Nanor> josh__, Still think I'm having that fan issue. There's no system load to speak of and the GPU is at 48C
[14:48] <josh__> Nanor, grea
[14:48] <freakynl> CoDEmanX: are you on a fixed width console (as in not a xterm or something of which you can increase the size)? It's breaking up to keep the columns right. Might mess around with --output too and the -P option mentioned by geirha
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: if not i have a way that will work
[14:49] <josh__> Nanor, great! Though the fan is a problem.
[14:49] <Smilex> fsloan, looks like the headers go into /usr/src. Look at this -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/linux-headers-3.12.0-2-generic/filelist
[14:49] <ActionPa1snip> CoDEmanX: use:  df -h   easier to read :)
[14:50] <Smilex> keyborad_apeman, I don't think GNOME cares about Grub. I could be wrong though
[14:50] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/LPrJEhST
[14:50] <keyborad_apeman> Smilex: seams I'm on my own ( they do not )
[14:50] <geirha> ActionPa1snip: Will still break long values into multiple lines. -P avoids that, but can be used in combination with -h
[14:50] <fsloan> Smilex: Ah, got it -- thanks. So once I put the kernel/headers in the right place, is there anything else I have to do? (Currently no entry in grub)
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: and what about: df -P | pastebinit
[14:51] <Nanor> josh__, anything you would recommend for setting fan speeds?
[14:51] <josh__> Nanor, I have to go now
[14:51] <Nanor> josh__, No problem :)
[14:51] <josh__> Nanor, I have a lecture in 10
[14:51] <Smilex> fsloan, run grub, it will find it
[14:51] <josh__> I'll be back later, but I hope your problem fixes up
[14:51] <fsloan> excellent. I'll get to work -- thanks!
[14:51] <Smilex> fsloan, don't remember the exact command to run grub though
[14:51] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: -P seems to do the trick!
[14:51] <toafan> I know there's a way to manually mark partitions (or maybe even entire disks?) to be fsck'd when the system reboots, but I don't remember anything else  about it.  help?
[14:52] <josh__> Nanor, maybe try using a system manager/ task manager to find out what's running so high
[14:52] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/enkUK0Wg
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: you can thank geirha for that
[14:52] <toafan> Smilex, fsloan: I think update-grub might do it
[14:52] <CoDEmanX> geirha: thanks for the multi line hint!!
[14:52] <fsloan> Smilex: there's a lot of "grub-*", "grub-setup" looks promising
[14:53] <fsloan> toafan: Ah, update-grub sounds even more promising :)
[14:53] <keyborad_apeman> Smilex: checking fstab and it does have all the lnes needed to boot and they are also correct
[14:53] <path0gen> booting into recovery mode, when i try to move the arrow down to "root shell prompt", it just boots into normal. The console is taking my down arrow as an enter command
[14:53]  * keyborad_apeman confused
[14:53] <CoDEmanX> ActionPa1snip: it's not about readability, i need to let a php script determine free space on a mounted network device
[14:53] <CoDEmanX> and for that, i has to be a fixed size (ie. always bytes)
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> CoDEmanX: so does this do it fot you?: df -P | grep "/volumeUSB1/usbshare" | awk '{ print $4 }'
[14:54] <geirha> don't do grep|awk though, just use awk when you first use awk
[14:55] <geirha> CoDEmanX: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/094   not ubuntu specific, but highlights some problems with parsing df output
[14:56] <CoDEmanX> hitsujiTMO: looks good!
[14:56] <Nanor> are the xorg drivers for ATI good?
[14:56] <Nanor> Or should I use the proprietary ones?
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> Nanor: as in radeondriver?
[14:57] <Johnny_Linux> work excellent here
[14:57] <Nanor> hitsujiTMO, Yes
[14:57] <TJ-> toafan: See "man tune2fs" with "-C"
[14:58] <hitsujiTMO> Nanor: only use fglrx if you want it for gaming or have issues with heat/powermanagement(this is fixed in kernel 3.13)
[14:58] <jetpax> I'm running of a LiveUSB trying to mount the internal encrypted drive on this computer. Where do I find it?
[14:58] <path0gen> a note to anyone who saw my message: solved by using nav keys on number pad
[14:58] <Nanor> hitsujiTMO, I probably will use this for gaming during lunch. Is it risky switching to fglrx?
[14:59] <CoDEmanX> geirha: interesting read
[14:59] <Smilex> Nanor, what issues do you have with the open source drivers?
[14:59] <path0gen> trying to do to root shell prompt at boot: it still asks me for the root pw...
[14:59] <CoDEmanX> but what does this mean? Explicitly select a file system.
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> Nanor, not risky, just can be problematic during dist-upgrades or do-release-upgrades. fglrx has crap 2d acceleration too
[14:59] <Nanor> Smilex, None, yet. I'm just wondering if they're suitable for gaming.
[15:00] <Smilex> Nanor, they are faster than fglrx
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> Nanor: when you say gaming what type of games exactly?
[15:00] <Smilex> Or so I was told
[15:00] <Nanor> hitsujiTMO, Dota 2
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> Smilex: thats for 2d accel
[15:00] <Smilex> might have been after some kernel update though
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> Nanor: you will want fglrx for dota2
[15:01] <Smilex> Nanor, I can run Dota 2 with Radeon 3200HD and the open source drivers
[15:01] <Nanor> hitsujiTMO, Smilex conflicting answers here, heh
[15:01] <Nanor> Perhaps I should actually try it with the open source drivers first
[15:02] <Likeaboss55322> does anytone reccomend a cool theme for ubuntu 12.04
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> Likeaboss55322: ambiance
[15:02] <Likeaboss55322> okay  how about  a good video editor?
[15:03] <hitsujiTMO> Likeaboss55322: that would prob be better answered in #ubuntu-studio
[15:03] <CoDEmanX> geirha: stat is available on my ubuntu, should use it instead?
[15:03] <Likeaboss55322> okay
[15:03] <Nanor> I don't like how my GPU temp is slowly climbing even though I'm doing nothing...
[15:04] <hitsujiTMO> Nanor: what temp is it at?
[15:04] <Nanor> hitsujiTMO, 53C. Was 48 a few minutes ago.
[15:04] <i00nsu> hello. Why I have port:53 = DNS service On? >> dnsmask \\ Why not dhclient?
[15:05] <Nanor> hitsujiTMO, My fan is also going full speed by the sound of things
[15:06] <furoido> good morning
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> Nanor: that sounds like a powermanagement issue. not going to be fixed with radeon driver until kernel 3.13. otherwise its fixed with fglrx
[15:06] <coda23> am using ubuntu gnome and looking for a configurable low battery warning setting/program, any tips?
[15:06] <furoido> does anyone knows IRC channel for Electronics?
[15:07] <Nanor> hitsujiTMO, Looks like i'm switching to fglrx then. Thanks :)
[15:07] <jetpax> I'm booted off of a live disk -- how can I find the disks of the computer I'm running on?
[15:07] <Nanor> hitsujiTMO, What's the difference between fglrx and fglrx-updates?
[15:08] <chenqisu123> when i trying to install AMD Graphics driver, it says:"DKMS part of installation failed.  Please refer to /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log for details.", what can i do now?
[15:09] <coda23> jetpax,  last i recall using a live disk there was an icon on the desktop that represented the C:\ drive that you double clicked on to mount
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> nanor: such a difference is usually different dependancies
[15:09] <bibi346> hi, when I resume my computer from hibernation, I can move the mouse but I cannot move the mouse and see the desktop, but I cannot click anywhere, it's kind of freezed, how can I troubleshoot this?
[15:10] <bibi346> sorry my sentence is wrong
[15:10] <Smilex> Nanor, I should mention that I was using xorg-edgers when trying Dota 2
[15:10] <jetpax> coda23: good catch. I can type a password, but I get "Unable to mount 64 GB LVM2 Physical Volume -- Not a mountable file system
[15:10] <Nanor> Smilex, I just read about that. Do I just add their PPA?
[15:10] <bibi346> hi, when I resume my computer from hibernation, I can move the mouse and see the desktop, but I cannot click anywhere, it's kind of freezed, how can I troubleshoot this?
[15:10] <hitsujiTMO> chenqisu123: what does the log say? /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log
[15:11] <Smilex> Nanor, yeah, add the ppa, do  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:11] <Nanor> Smilex, I'll give it  a go :)
[15:11] <Smilex> Nanor, however, if you haven't upgraded to 13.10, then do that first
[15:11] <toafan> TJ-: thanks for the tip, but investigating it tells me I'd do better with an external checking program
[15:12] <Nanor> Smilex, Fresh install :)
[15:13] <coda23> ok jetpax, did you try to navigate to it using the file manger? should be in /mnt or /media I would think, not used a live cd for a while
[15:13] <Smilex> Nanor, ok, xorg-edgers is conflicting with my upgrade. Remember to get ppa-purge incase things go wrong
[15:13] <toafan> bibi346: if you press ctrl-alt-F1, does it dump you to a fullscreen terminal?  (if so, does ctrl-alt-F7 get you back?)
[15:13] <user82> cheers. i have a zip file i cannot extract, is there anything i can do about it? unzip says "need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v4.6)" and 7z says "Unsupported Method". any ideas?
[15:13] <Nanor> Smilex, so I did as you said. How do I know it's worked?
[15:14] <i00nsu> root
[15:14] <chenqisu123> hitsujiTMO: it says"Supported adapter detected.
[15:14] <chenqisu123> Check if system has the tools required for installation.
[15:14] <chenqisu123> Uninstalling any previously installed drivers.
[15:14] <chenqisu123> Creating symlink /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/12.104/source ->
[15:14] <chenqisu123>                  /usr/src/fglrx-12.104
[15:14] <chenqisu123> DKMS: add completed.
[15:14] <FloodBot1> chenqisu123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:14] <chenqisu123> Kernel preparation unnecessary for this kernel.  Skipping...
[15:14] <chenqisu123> Building module:
[15:14] <i00nsu> is danger to use root user in IRC.
[15:14] <coda23> am using ubuntu gnome and looking for a configurable low battery warning setting/program so for example I could go to standby if it is low etc , any suggestions?
[15:14] <jim34> dal.net
[15:14] <jim34> /server irc.dal.net
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> chenqisu123: can you please use paste.ubuntu.com and paste the log in there
[15:15] <toafan> jim34: try /connect
[15:15] <bibi346> toafan: do you mean now or when or when it is frozen? now it does open a fullscreen terminal and i can exit
[15:15] <TJ-> toafan: The 'external checking program' would be 'e2fsck', which runs for EXT* file-systems when an 'fsck' is run.
[15:15] <jim34> thanks trying
[15:15] <toafan> bibi346: when it's frozen
[15:15] <jim34> /connect irc.dal.net
[15:16] <Smilex> jim34, it is /server irc.dal.net on xcode
[15:16] <Smilex> whoops, xchat
[15:16]  * nongeek hello Ubuntu members
[15:17] <bibi346> toafan: no, it doesn't do this anymore when it's frozen
[15:17] <Nanor> Smilex, how do I know it's working? heh
[15:17] <nongeek> I joined my ubuntu to windows domain and use samba to share a directory, I wan to give a permission to a directory bu domain users, How can i do it?
[15:17] <toafan> TJ-: yeah, but I wanna check my disk manually because it^w my computer was making odd sounds, and I want to premptivly check the entire disk for errors, which includes some other partitions
[15:17] <toafan> if that makes sense
[15:18] <Smilex> Nanor, glxinfo | grep "OpenGL version string"
[15:18] <Nanor> Smilex, I'll try that. I think I added the wrong repo
[15:19]  * nongeek any idea?
[15:20] <Nanor> Smilex, OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 9.2.1
[15:20] <Smilex> Nanor, I believe you should be getting mesa version 9.2
[15:20] <toafan> bibi346: if you unplug the keyboard and plug it back in (or plug in an external keyboard, as approrpriate), does that make it go away?
[15:20] <Nanor> Smilex, like that? :D
[15:20] <Smilex> Nanor, yeah. I'm unsure if Ubuntu 13.10 came with that though
[15:21] <Nanor> Smilex, GPU temp seems to have dropped... fan still going strong
[15:21] <jetpax> ok, update: looks like I need to find an LVM2 filesystem and then decrypt and mount it. No idea where to look
[15:21] <Smilex> Nanor, I've heard of a fan fix with a newer kernel. You might want to look into that
[15:21] <Nanor> Smilex, I'm not sure I want to go delving into Kernels... how difficult is it?
[15:22] <infused> hello room
[15:22] <oal> Ugh, Ubuntu has been very buggy the last week or so. Keyboard shortcuts don't work, shutdown doesn't work, and now I have an orange selection box overlaying all other windows: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/262587/154.png
[15:22] <oal> Has anyone else seen this?
[15:22] <Smilex> Nanor, easy if you just compile everything, but it takes time and things might brake :p
[15:22] <Nanor> Smilex, I'm incredibly good at breaking things so I'm not sure I should...
[15:22] <infused> i hade orage boxs when using a second dispaly
[15:22] <Nanor> I might switch to fglrx in order to keep my fan quiet and switch back if it doesnt work
[15:23] <bibi346> toafan: no, then I still can't do ctrl alt f1, but what has it to do with the keyboard? It looks like the whole interface is buggy, I can't open any program, close or reduce any window.
[15:24] <Smilex> Nanor, reverting is easy. Just don't replace your current kernel, use grub-update, and there should be a new grub entry for the kernel. There might even be kernel images compiled for you, which almost makes it hassle free
[15:24] <TJ-> toafan: Then un-mount the file-systems you need to check, then run "fsck" on each one
[15:24] <Smilex> Nanor, the actual fun part is configuring the kernel yourself ;)
[15:24] <Nanor> Smilex, interesting... where can I find a new kernel image?
[15:24] <oal> infused, ok. I have two displays as well. Maybe it's time for a driver update for my graphics card
[15:25] <toafan> TJ-: ah, of course.  Bootdisk (+ facepalm) time, then
[15:25] <Smilex> Nanor, http://kernel.org is the official site
[15:25] <TJ-> Nanor: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[15:25] <ActionPa1snip> oal: try reloading your WM
[15:25] <nongeek> Huh
[15:25] <infused> oal did your orage boxs go away when you moved the windows in 2nd dispaly?
[15:25] <nongeek> Anybody here that can reply me?
[15:26] <oal> infused, nope, it's stuck there
[15:26] <toafan> bibi346: so, it's not just the keyboard, but after freezing you can't work with windows or start programs with the mouse, either?
[15:26] <ActionPa1snip> nongeek: so add access to a domain in Ubuntu's samba using Windows groups?
[15:26] <jhutchins_wk> toafan: You can also do sudo shutdown -Fr now, which will check the system disks at reboot before they're remounted RW.
[15:26] <TJ-> toafan: Or, reboot, edit grub entry, add "init=/bin/bash" to the kernel cmd-line, boot that entry, then run 'fsck' from the initial-ramdisk before the file-systems are mounted
[15:26] <ActionPa1snip> oal: try reloading your WM
[15:27] <nongeek> ActionPa1snip: I want a windows users in my AD can read and write a directory
[15:27] <oal> ActionPa1snip, will do, but I'll upgrade the driver as well. Unity has been lagging a lot lately.
[15:27] <ActionPa1snip> nongeek: are you running a Windows domain controller?
[15:27] <nongeek> yes
[15:27] <TJ-> jhutchins_wk: Does Ubuntu's 'shutdown' support "-F" ?
[15:28] <nongeek> ActionPa1snip: I joined my ubuntu to windows domain also
[15:28] <bibi346> toafan: yes, it's like this bug : http://askubuntu.com/questions/7156/system-freezes-after-standby
[15:28] <ActionPa1snip> nongeek: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/groupmapping.html
[15:28] <Kamuela> How can I sort files by file size in the GUI file manager? It sorts things by... number of folders.
[15:28] <ActionPa1snip> nongeek: I'd ask in #samba too
[15:28] <toafan> jhutchins_wk: that'll only check system disks, yes?
[15:28] <nongeek> ActionPa1snip: why group mapping?
[15:29] <wentknweqt_> anyone know how to downgrade php5.5 to php5.4 in ubuntu 13.10?
[15:29] <jhutchins_wk> toafan: I believe it will check all of the available disks in fstab.
[15:30] <ActionPa1snip> nongeek: so you can use an AD group to give access to the share, don't you do that already???
[15:30] <ActionPa1snip> nongeek: its a really good way to work
[15:31] <nongeek> I don't like my windows group deleted or...
[15:31] <ActionPa1snip> nongeek: it wont delete groups
[15:31] <nongeek> ActionPa1snip: wbinfo -g show me some groups but what is my users group?
[15:32] <nongeek> is it "DOMAIN\domain users" ?
[15:32] <nongeek> ActionPa1snip: is it "DOMAIN\domain users" ?
[15:32] <ActionPa1snip> nongeek: sounds good to me, if you want every authenticated user to have access.
[15:33] <Guest28449> cd/mnt
[15:33] <TJ-> jhutchins_wk: toafan: "/sbin/shutdown" (in package upstart) *ignores* "-F"
[15:33] <nongeek> ActionPa1snip: Thus i must make a group for windows users
[15:33] <nongeek> in linux
[15:33] <Guest28449> ls-l
[15:33] <ActionPa1snip> nongeek: i would, then you can add members to those you want to have access
[15:34] <nongeek> ActionPa1snip: Thanks. I will Pm you when i have any problem
[15:34] <jinluo> how to install win8 on ubuntu (ubuntu exists)? give me a step by step link, please.
[15:34] <wedr> sudo apt-get install windows8
[15:34] <toafan> bibi346: I get the impression this is a bug with comming out of hibernation, then.  I don't think I can help you any further, short of flailing around blindly myself
[15:35] <toafan> wedr: wink when you do that
[15:35] <ActionPa1snip> jinluo: use virtualbox
[15:35] <wedr> :-)
[15:35] <jinluo> I want  dual-OS,without virtualbox..
[15:36] <Guest28449> cd rtl8192cus_8188ce-vau_linux_v2.0974.20200803
[15:36] <ActionPa1snip> jinluo: then you will need to resize Ext4 in liveCD to make free space
[15:36] <infused> mayby this http://askubuntu.com/questions/145205/installing-windows-8-in-ubuntu
[15:36] <ActionPa1snip> jinluo: this is not 'Installing Win8 in Ubuntu', you are making a dual boot
[15:36] <jinluo> yes
[15:36] <Guest28449> ls
[15:36] <freakynl> or if you still have free space recover the bootloader after installing win8
[15:36] <jinluo> making a dual boot.  how to do it?
[15:36] <Guest28449> cd driner
[15:36] <freakynl> you'll have to do that in any case tho' cuz MS stuff ain't other OS friendly
[15:37] <ActionPa1snip> jinluo: then after you install Win8 you will need to reinstate Grub to the MBR as the Windows install will overwrite the MBR
[15:37] <Guest28449> driver
[15:37] <nongeek> ActionPa1snip: I made a group with the name "windows" and run "net groupmap add ntgroup="domain users" unixgroup=windows rid=512 type=d"
[15:37] <nongeek> ActionPa1snip: How can i verify it?
[15:37] <jinluo> i hear grub2 fix it.can be done without MBR?
[15:37] <Guest28449> cd driver
[15:37] <toafan> jinluo: but making sure to only let win8 use some of the drive, otherwise you'll have to reinstall ubuntu
[15:37] <ActionPa1snip> nongeek: restart Samba, then try accessing stuff
[15:37] <Guest28449> ls-l
[15:38] <ActionPa1snip> Guest28449: you arent typing in your terminal
[15:38] <nongeek> ActionPa1snip: I guess that I must configure samba too
[15:38] <Guest28449> ls
[15:38] <ActionPa1snip> nongeek: i guess. Did you ask in #samba
[15:38] <nongeek> ActionPa1snip: How can i tell samba to read my group? I guess that i must use "valid user = @windows"
[15:39] <nongeek> ActionPa1snip: Samba is silent :(
[15:39] <Guest28449> cd rtl8192cu_linux_v2.0974.20100803
[15:39] <Guest28449> ls
[15:39] <Guest28449> make
[15:39] <ActionPa1snip> Guest28449: again, you arent typing in a terminal
[15:40] <infused> lol
[15:40] <Guest28449> la-l
[15:40] <jetpax> where does nautilus look for the "devices" column on the right? Trying to find the path to the following: http://i.imgur.com/Q4fwIqY.png?1
[15:40] <wedr> lal
[15:40] <calwig> server irc.oftc.net
[15:41] <Guest28449> insmod 8192cu.ko
[15:41] <calwig> is interesting
[15:41] <Guest28449> ifconfig
[15:41] <DJones> Guest28449: Stop, you not typing in your terminal
[15:42] <infused> that is too funny
[15:42] <Kamuela> I'm trying to use Files to show me folders sorted by size on disk. How do I do that?
[15:43] <jetpax> Kamuela: Files? You can use "df -h | sort -h" from the directory in terminal
[15:43] <wafflejockTablet> Kamuela: u can use k4dirstat or ncdu for this
[15:43] <jetpax> Kamuela: *du -h
[15:44] <Guest28449> make
[15:46] <Kamuela> jetpax, cool, that helped. not sure why Files doesn't include such basic functionality though
[15:46] <jetpax> Kamuela: I'm sure it does, I'm just more familiar with the terminal
[15:47] <whoever> Kamuela: what "basic" functionality
[15:47]  * whoever nods at jetpax viva la term
[15:47] <Kamuela> whoever: sorting a list of files and directories by file size
[15:48] <jetpax> Kamuela: in Files: right click -> arrange by -> size
[15:49] <Kamuela> jetpax, there is no arrange by in Files for Ubuntu 13.10
[15:49] <binero> Hello
[15:49] <man0riaX> Hello everybody
[15:50] <jetpax> Kamuela: just to double check -- if you right click on white space in Files (not on an item), there is no "Arrange Items" menu
[15:50] <binero> I have a problem with my headset being detected by Ubuntu, and the many topics on askubuntu didn't help me at all. Can anyone help me?
[15:50] <binero> Well the problem is headset not being detected ofc.
[15:50] <Kamuela> jetpax, New Folder, New Document, Restore Missing, Properties
[15:51] <ActionPa1snip> binero: how does it connect to the system?
[15:51] <binero> It works on any OS but Ubuntu
[15:52] <ActionPa1snip> binero: how does it connect to the system?
[15:52] <binero> How do you mean?
[15:52] <binero> Ah
[15:52] <ActionPa1snip> binero: 3.5mm jack? Bluetooth?
[15:52] <binero> A jack
[15:52] <jetpax> Kamuela: hm.. not currently on 13.10 so can't check, but that's surprising
[15:52] <binero> Yeah
[15:52] <whoever> Kamuela: there might be a gnome addon for it but its mostly by command
[15:52] <ActionPa1snip> binero: what is the output of:    wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[15:53] <binero> Will check
[15:53] <binero> Here it is: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e6f087df258835f41a7e4adf28fa6e40626a8fab
[15:53] <ksbalaji> Hi friends! How to delete unnecessary files in usb stick rofs please?
[15:53] <we6jbo> Is there a AI/Robot program for linux that sits on the desktop and looks up and answers ubuntu and computer related questions for the user?
[15:54] <binero> Inside alsamixer I can see a headphone section if that helps
[15:54] <Kamuela> jetpax, whoever, yeah, oh well. thanks for the term
[15:54] <whoever> ksbalaji: rf
[15:54] <infused> binero I too had the issue my was fixed by going to system settings and un muting my mic
[15:54] <binero> Well my mic isn't muted
[15:54] <binero> nor is my headphone
[15:54] <ActionPa1snip> binero: try changeing:  options snd-hda-intel model=auto     to     options snd-hda-intel model=dell
[15:54] <binero> and it doesn't get listed inside the sound mixer
[15:54] <binero> okay
[15:54] <binero> I think I remember what file that's in sec
[15:54] <ActionPa1snip> binero: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141865/3-5-audio-jack-issue-doesnt-work-on-a-dell-studio-1749
[15:54] <whoever> ksbalaji: rf <filename>  || rf -rm <folder>
[15:54] <ksbalaji> whoever: I tried. The permissions cannot be changed. I need help.
[15:54] <ActionPa1snip> binero: there are a ew lines to try there
[15:55] <ActionPa1snip> binero: have only ONE line each try
[15:55] <whoever> ksbalaji: append with sudo
[15:55] <whoever> *prepend
[15:55] <ActionPa1snip> binero: also, make sure the output port is not muted and the level is high
[15:55] <binero> okay
[15:55] <ksbalaji> whoever: Even then, the permission remains the same.
[15:55] <ActionPa1snip> binero: you can use:   alsamixer    for that
[15:56] <binero> Yeah I have done all that already
[15:56] <jetpax> ksbalaji: what are the permissions now?
[15:56] <binero> like the unmuting etc
[15:56] <whoever> ksbalaji: ls -la /path/to/usb/mntPoint/
[15:56] <binero> I'mma reboot now
[15:56] <ActionPa1snip> binero: did you use F6 to change the output device, and check
[15:56] <binero> yeah
[15:56] <binero> there is
[15:57] <binero> HDA Intel MID
[15:57] <binero> and HD-Audio Generic
[15:57] <ksbalaji> jetpax: read only file system rofs.
[15:57] <whoever> ksbalaji: unmount it and remount it
[15:58] <ksbalaji> whoever: -la /path/to/usb/mntPoint/
[15:58] <ksbalaji> ls: cannot access /path/to/usb/mntPoint/: No such file or directory
[15:59] <whoever> ksbalaji: did you substitute  for your mount point
[15:59] <hitsujiTMO> ksbalaji: mount -o remount,rw /path/to/mount/point
[15:59] <ksbalaji> whoever: Good idea. How do I unmount and remount rofs?
[15:59] <SupaYoshi> heya, im having some issues / questions regarding setting up a PXE server on Ubuntu Server 12.04
[15:59] <whoever> ksbalaji: ^^
[15:59] <SupaYoshi> I got so far that I installed the pxeserver, got the tutorial, but it seems fairly outdated
[15:59] <SupaYoshi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[16:01] <whoever> SupaYoshi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[16:02] <ksbalaji> whoever: I tried ls -la /rofs - I get a good list.
[16:03] <SupaYoshi> whoever, but thats not for Windows right?
[16:03] <yuradoc_> Hello
[16:03] <SupaYoshi> I want to have Windows ISOs mounted from the Linux PXE server
[16:03] <SupaYoshi> Or did i misunderstand that one?
[16:03] <jeroen_> Thanks for the help, it's working now
[16:03] <whoever> SupaYoshi: your here so i assume you want an ubuntu server
[16:03] <yuradoc_> pls help me with after-upgrate bugs
[16:03] <jeroen_> I removed an old similar line I added with the second one on tha tpost
[16:03] <jeroen_> that did the job
[16:04] <yuradoc_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186165
[16:04] <SupaYoshi> whoever, yeah thats what i mean, but i want it to serve windows isos
[16:04] <mukti> Does anyone use ucarp for IP failover? I have two VMs set up with ucarp, but when a node has the eth0:ucarp interface active, I cannot ping the eth0 interface. Does anyone know how I could fix this?
[16:04] <SupaYoshi> :D ya get what i mean? :)
[16:04] <whoever> ksbalaji: you get a list, so now you should be able to delete
[16:04] <SupaYoshi> Also, that guide goes on about installing a dhcp server, but i want to use my router (openwrt) as dhcp server, and forward the PXE request to the server.
[16:05] <ksbalaji> hitsujiTMO: sudo mount -o remount,rw /rofs
[16:05] <ksbalaji> mount: cannot remount block device /dev/loop0 read-write, is write-protected
[16:05] <whoever> SupaYoshi: it looks like it will cover that
[16:05] <SupaYoshi> whoever: thanks then :D Ill try it out
[16:05] <whoever> SupaYoshi: and im sure you will need some client script (if you didn't alreay know ) to tell the server what image you want to pull
[16:06] <whoever> SupaYoshi: cool
[16:06] <SupaYoshi> Yeah I read something about em menus
[16:06] <SupaYoshi> That it would invoke a linux menu, where i could choose the distro i wanted on a list?
[16:06]  * whoever another satisfied customer: continue:
[16:06] <ksbalaji> whoever: The list is there of course. I am unable to delete the unnecessary files.
[16:06] <SupaYoshi> And that would be pulled from the server?
[16:08] <whoever> ksbalaji: ok you get a list, so who owns the files in that list
[16:08] <ksbalaji> whoever: root owns.
[16:08] <whoever> ?????  , or an actial person
[16:08] <whoever> ksbalaji: then you should be able to rm -rf
[16:09] <hitsujiTMO> ksbalaji: is this a cd/dvd?
[16:09] <ksbalaji> whoever: I tried sudo rm -rf -Still, the file remains.
[16:09] <whoever> ksbalaji: if you still can't do it then pastebin your ls -la
[16:09] <yuradoc_> so maybe could somebody help with pbs?
[16:09] <ksbalaji> hitsujiTMO: The files are in USB stick.
[16:10] <hitsujiTMO> ksbalaji: is it an iso image that was dd'd to a usb?
[16:10] <infused> ksbalaji are you using the termanl to rm the files?
[16:11] <zacktu> I have a dual boot system and want to auto-mount the C: partition of the windows system.  The mount point is /media/<mylogin>, but that is empty until I click on the icon for the partition in the launcher.  I tried an fstab entry, and it didn't work.  Should I explore that option some more?
[16:11] <gordonjcp> zacktu: sounds like you've not put it in fstab correctly
[16:12] <gordonjcp> zacktu: can you pastebin /etc/fstab?
[16:12] <ksbalaji> infused: I am using a terminal now. I also tried sudo nautilus to remove files. They wont budge. hitsujiTMO : it is not iso image.
[16:12] <wafflejockTablet> Yeah fstab should do it
[16:12] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.
[16:12] <ksbalaji> whoever: I shall pastebin.
[16:12] <JokesOnYou77> I'm trying to call a php script from a bash sscript and for some reason its not running properly.
[16:13] <infused> ksbalaji u just want them off the usb correct?
[16:13] <JokesOnYou77> It only works when I call the BASH script from it's directory.  But when called from the full path to the bash script is says it can't open the input file blah.php
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> ksbalaji: can you pastebin the output of: mount
[16:14] <jetpax> still trying to access an internal hard drive after booting from a liveCD -- it is encrypted LVM2. I think I know how to do this, I just need to *find* it. Does anyone know where?
[16:14] <wafflejockTablet> JokesOnYou77: same if u do the php command with full path outside the bash script?
[16:15] <ksbalaji> whoever: http://pastebin.com/g1KM2e58
[16:15] <ksbalaji> infused: exactly.
[16:15] <JokesOnYou77> wafflejockTablet: No.  # php /path/to/file file.php works fine
[16:15] <SupaYoshi> hey
[16:15] <zacktu> gordonjcp: I've erased the fstab that didn't work.  The system wouldn't boot unless I used "S" to skip trying to mount the partition.  That sorta scared me when boot stopped.  I was trying to mount the partition as /media/win.  Should I have mounted to /media/<myname>?
[16:15] <ksbalaji> infused: Since I am running out of space.
[16:15] <SupaYoshi> whoever , if i have a openwrt box, with this: what would i put in as TFTP server here?
[16:15] <SupaYoshi> http://prntscr.com/23fx53
[16:16] <infused> ksbalaji if thats the case why not sudo rm file.name?
[16:16] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know a command line program for compression with highest compression rate?
[16:16] <SupaYoshi> The IP of the server? And then the directory? like: 10.15.1.100/mnt/disk1/images
[16:16] <wafflejockTablet> mojtaba: depends on what u compress
[16:16] <mojtaba> wafflejockTablet: movies
[16:16] <azzuro> ciao
[16:16] <wafflejockTablet> And if lossy is okay
[16:16] <azzuro> !list
[16:17] <mojtaba> wafflejockTablet: what do you mean by lossy? (you mean I can not extract it later?)
[16:17] <wafflejockTablet> Yes not every pixel is stored
[16:17] <wafflejockTablet> Like jpeg
[16:17] <ksbalaji> hitsujiTMO: my mount result: http://pastebin.com/P6wVHQnz
[16:17] <wafflejockTablet> Xvid an
[16:18] <wafflejockTablet> H264 are popular
[16:18] <mojtaba> wafflejockTablet: are these command like tools?
[16:18] <ksbalaji> infused: As I mentioned earlier, sudo does not do the trick. The files persist. I do not understand why.
[16:18] <JokesOnYou77> wafflejockTablet: Figured it out!  I needed to add -f to the php command
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> ksbalaji: please tell me its not /media/linux
[16:19] <wafflejockTablet> JokesOnYou77: ah the for letting us know
[16:19] <wafflejockTablet> Thx
[16:20] <JokesOnYou77> :)
[16:20] <wafflejockTablet> mojtaba: ffmpeg
[16:20] <jetpax> anyone have any idea at all on how to mount an encrypted internal disk while on liveCD?
[16:20] <wafflejockTablet> That's the command that will convert videos
[16:20] <ksbalaji> hitsujiTMO: It is not. The /media/linux is cdrom.
[16:21] <wafflejockTablet> There are some GUIs for it too
[16:21] <infused> ksbalaji perhaps you made the files as a root you can try
[16:21] <infused> http://www.overclock.net/t/722487/how-to-become-root-user-on-ubuntu
[16:21] <infused> 4th post
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> ksbalaji: ahh its squash-fs     by its nature its readonly. you need to recreate the image
[16:22] <mojtaba> wafflejockTablet: thanks
[16:22] <wafflejockTablet> Np
[16:22] <ksbalaji> infused: I shall try. hitsujiTMO : the /media/linux is my cd drive where I have a single video file.
[16:23] <ksbalaji> hitsujiTMO: squash-fs? Then why I do have a rofs? :(
[16:23] <djinja> any resolution for this nasty bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1244754
[16:23] <hitsujiTMO> ksbalaji: squashfs is a image file typical of live cds,.
[16:24] <nvs> hi
[16:24] <nvs> what are the coolest features of ubuntu? could you reccomend anything?
[16:24] <ksbalaji> hitsujiTMO: You mean that this rofs is inside squash-fs?
[16:25] <k1l_> nvs: its free :)
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> ksbalaji: yes.
[16:25] <wafflejockTablet> Nvs Google desktop environments
[16:25] <nvs> aids too
[16:25] <nvs> ;p
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> ksbalaji: if you weant to remove files you need to recreate the entire image again
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> want*
[16:25] <infused> nvs you can try your hand a blender its pretty fun
[16:26] <hitsujiTMO> ksbalaji: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/80305/mounting-a-squashfs-filesystem-in-read-write
[16:26] <nvs> in the software center i cand find any lenses
[16:26] <nvs> are they not supported anymore?
[16:27] <ksbalaji> hitsujiTMO: Thanks for the info. I thought that the folder was growing. Is there a way to make this squash-fs rw?
[16:27] <NuSuey> so.. any advice with the HDMI output .. every ~ 12 sec ..high pitched noise occurs.. (using open source amd graphic drivers) pulse audio .. should I just try to ditch pulse audio? :P
[16:28] <darkangel_> Hey would it be better to Start reporting Bugs from Ubuntu 14.04 Alpha 1 or w8 till there done building it?
[16:28] <k1l_> nvs: search for unity-scope
[16:28] <ActionPa1snip> darkangel_: report bugs as you find them :)
[16:28] <wafflejockTablet> NuSuey: alsamixer?
[16:28] <darkangel_> ok =)
[16:28] <NuSuey> wafflejockTablet: what's with that?
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> ksbalaji: read the link i just posted. you need to unsquash it. make changes. then resquash it
[16:28] <wafflejockTablet> NuSuey: can tweak the underlying audio system
[16:29] <NuSuey> wafflejockTablet: I'm confused.. how can that help me?
[16:29] <TwistedBeacon> Hey, I'm new to IRC and none of the channels I try to connect to are working, does freenode have a lot of channels?
[16:29] <TwistedBeacon> Sorry for bothering this channel, but it's the only one that's workws for me
[16:29] <Pici> TwistedBeacon: yes. But the best place to ask about freenode questions is #freenode itself.
[16:29] <bazhang> !alis | TwistedBeacon have a search
[16:29] <jinluo> how to reset HP notebook BIOS password?
[16:29] <ksbalaji> hitsujiTMO: infused : whoever : Thanks friends! Nice forum! Keep it up.
[16:29] <wafflejockTablet> Sometimes u can mute some outputs maybe some loopback or something weird on alsa I believe sits above your audio driver but below pulse
[16:30] <NuSuey> wafflejockTablet: ah
[16:30] <TwistedBeacon> Thanks!
[16:30] <Pici> jinluo: Thats not really an Ubuntu question, ##hardware might be able to help you out with that.
[16:31] <jinluo> ok thanks
[16:32] <whoever> SupaYoshi:  i do not have open box, i have tomato, but you would treate that like a server entry
[16:37] <NuSuey> wafflejockTablet: like, to mute some inputs or something like that?
[16:39] <JokesOnYou77> I can't get cron to run a script.  My time syntax is correct because I tried it with an echo command.  But when I point it to a script it won't run
[16:40] <JokesOnYou77> jhutchins_wk: Hey you still around?  I still can't get it to run lol
[16:41] <mukti> has anyone used ucarp before?
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | mukti
[16:43] <jmgk> hi
[16:43] <mukti> I cannot ping both interfaces on a VM that I'm running ucarp on. Both eth0 and eth0:ucarp are up, but I can only ping eth0:ucarp from other boxes. Is this expected behavior?
[16:44] <SupaYoshi> whoever, thanks for your answer
[16:45] <ActionPa1snip> mukti: are there routes to the interface
[16:45] <SupaYoshi> whoever, i still have no clue how to thread something as a server entry :P
[16:45] <SupaYoshi> aka, i dont know what you mean by that?
[16:45] <buu> So uh, where are dvd type disks mounted in ubuntu land?
[16:45] <buu> Or rather, what device do they show up as
[16:45] <mukti> ActionPa1snip: I'm not sure, I haven't manually set any (and I'm not sure how to set any)
[16:46] <ActionPa1snip> mukti: be a good first stop
[16:46] <ActionPa1snip> mukti: are both interfaces on the VM in the same subnet by any chance?
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> buu you usually find user mounted stuff in /media
[16:47] <mukti> ActionPa1snip: yes, they are
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> buu typing mount with no arguments will list all the currently mounted devices
[16:47] <buu> hitsujiTMO: Its not mounted.. but its /dev/sr0?
[16:47] <ActionPa1snip> mukti: then that's why. Why do you need 2 interfaces in the same subnet, it's nonesense
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> buu: oh as in what device or mount point?
[16:48] <mukti> ActionPa1snip: I wanted to set up two VMs to have failover
[16:48] <buu> hitsujiTMO: device.. but I found it.
[16:48] <JokesOnYou77> I can't get cron to run a bash script.  My time syntax is correct because I tried it with an echo command.  But when I point it to a script it won't run
[16:48] <phong_> hi, how can i upgrade from ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04?
[16:49] <buu> JokesOnYou77: check your env
[16:49] <buu> phong_: change your sources.list?
[16:49] <ikonia> phong_: 14.04 isn't out yet
[16:49] <ikonia> buu: no, you don't do that
[16:49] <buu> =[
[16:49] <buu> But its fun!
[16:49] <xstefen> 14.04 oh my
[16:49] <JokesOnYou77> buu: ?
[16:49] <ikonia> buu: pleaes do'nt give bad advice to people, they don't want their machines broken
[16:49] <phong_> ikonia, it is there, i saw it
[16:49] <phong_> ikonia, i can download it. from ubuntu
[16:49] <buu> ikonia: I think if they're trying to upgrade to 14.04 they do
[16:49] <ikonia> phong_: it's not, it's still in very early development
[16:49] <phong_> oh
[16:50] <ikonia> buu: they don't, they just don't know, try to "help" them rather than break their machines please.
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> phong_: thats an early alpha. it's not released yet
[16:50] <mukti> ActionPa1snip: is this the wrong way to do this? The eth0:ucarp address is using an IP that can be assigned to either of the two VMs that I'm running
[16:50] <Pricey> phong_: Try #ubuntu+1 maybe?
[16:50] <xstefen> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS release dates, Alpha 1 - December 19th (for flavours)
[16:50] <buu> JokesOnYou77: "won't run" isn't very useful. The most common error with attempting to run a cron job is that your ENV differs from what you expect.
[16:50] <phong_> but i can download the .iso file m
[16:51] <phong_> so the .iso is in alpha ?
[16:51] <buu> ikonia: Snark aside, how would *you* change to 14.04?
[16:51] <ikonia> it's not at "alpha" yet
[16:51] <mukti> ActionPa1snip: I've never done anything like this before, which is why I'm asking. For all I know I'm doing this completely wrong
[16:51] <xstefen> I wouldn't recommend it unless you know what you're doing, and upgrading a whole version i would recommend a fresh install lol
[16:51] <ikonia> buu: I'd follow the upgrade process.
[16:51] <phong_> ikonia, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[16:52] <buu> do-release-upgrade?
[16:52] <buu> That doesn't sound like much fun.
[16:52] <ikonia> phong_: "daily build" eg: development version, not stable
[16:52] <phong_> oh
[16:52] <JokesOnYou77> buu: I'm not really sure how to check my ENV??
[16:53] <buu> JokesOnYou77: You could try giving us more specific details.
[16:53] <xstefen> I am excited for the 14.04 release, didn't realise it would be so soon
[16:53] <mukti> ActionPa1snip: Is it possible to add routes to one of the interfaces even though they are both on the same subnet?
[16:54] <wafflejockTablet> JokesOnYou77: perhaps try a very simple script to verify cron itself is working do a simple cp or something
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> mukti yes
[16:54] <wafflejockTablet> Year.Month
[16:54] <JokesOnYou77> buu: On this server I'm running as root.  I have a script: /root/My_Stories/run_downloader.sh and I would like it to run every 6 hours. # crontab -e pastebin to follow.
[16:54] <wafflejockTablet> 2014.04
[16:55] <hitsujiTMO> mukti: have a look at the debian ubuntu section here: http://help.ovh.ie/BridgeClient
[16:55] <mukti> hitsujiTMO: will do, thanks
[16:55] <JokesOnYou77> buu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6400644/
[16:56] <JokesOnYou77> buu: the test script works fine when in /root
[16:56] <meomic> hi, can someone tell me how can i add this repo to sources.list so that is will work? http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html   because this:  deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/debian/stable/ /     doesnt work
[16:56] <JokesOnYou77> buu: but it doesn't seem to work when in /root/My_Stories so maybe a permissions issue?
[16:57] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: ares the scripts chmod +x ?
[16:58] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO: yep
[16:58] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: does #05 14 * * * echo "Ran the job on `date`" >> /root/test_job  output as expected when it's uncommented?
[16:59] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO: yes
[16:59] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO: That line is also essentially the contents of test_script.sh
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: so 05 */6 * * * /root/My_Stories/run_downloader.sh   is not running at all?
[17:00] <buu> JokesOnYou77: Why are you running them as root?
[17:01] <buu> JokesOnYou77: Are you getting any error mails?
[17:01] <buu> JokesOnYou77: Do you have cron error output configured?
[17:01] <ivanbajr> SyncDrive não abre com ubuntu 13.10 ?
[17:01] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO: Not so far as I can tell.  run_downlosder is a wrapper for a php script and run_downloader outputs to a log when it runs
[17:01] <JokesOnYou77> buu: because I'm running this server as root
[17:01] <JokesOnYou77> buu: I don't think I have cron error output configured
[17:02] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: can you post the contents of run_downloader.sh?>
[17:03] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6400676/
[17:03] <buu> JokesOnYou77: php probably isn't in your path..
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: issue in the first line definately:P    there shold be no space after the shebang
[17:04] <buu> Or that!
[17:04] <buu> Does cron set $PATH these days?
[17:04] <JokesOnYou77> buu: ./run_downloader.sh works fine.  /root/My_Stories/run_downloader.sh also works fine.
[17:04] <buu> JokesOnYou77: cron is not the same as your user running it...
[17:05] <buu> JokesOnYou77: cron lacks $PATH..
[17:05] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO: rofl, missed that lol
[17:06] <zykotick9> JokesOnYou77: i wonder a) if php is in cron's path and b) how it will know where downloader02.php is located...  consider CRON to have no path, and you might do better?
[17:06] <mukti> hitsujiTMO: that seemed to work for a bit, but then stopped, I'll have to keep messing with it
[17:06] <RFC3675> Hello, does 12.04 LTS version should be stable? Because all my virtual terminals just crashed in a batch process.
[17:07] <JokesOnYou77> zykotick9: I thought it was just running the script I pointed it to?  And that all references in the script would still point to where they are relative to the script?  No?  Absolute paths to everthing?
[17:07] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: you'll need to set the full path for php and echo. which php   and: which echo    will give you the full path
[17:07] <zykotick9> JokesOnYou77: i'd try it...
[17:07] <hitsujiTMO> mukti: yeah, took me a bit to get it right first time
[17:07] <ezra-s> RFC3675, and what were your doing when it happened? Any process eating ram or doing anything in particular?
[17:08] <RFC3675> ezra-s: not ram but two cores were full loaded =]
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: downloader02.php and Downloader_Log.log need full path
[17:08] <ezra-s> RFC3675, not reason enough either
[17:09] <RFC3675> ezra-s: agreed
[17:09] <JokesOnYou77> That might be it.  But I have something else: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6400711/
[17:09] <darkangel_> Hey just woundering is there a way to Compress the whole Hard Driver its self with out usin 7 Zip or any thing like that?
[17:10] <JokesOnYou77> test_script.sh runs fine in /root but not in /root/My_Stories
[17:10] <ccolorado> Hello, How can I get access for  N amount of hosts to a vpn netwrok with just one of them being directly connected to the vpn ?
[17:10] <BuFF> anyone knows what a write command is?
[17:10]  * ezra-s sighs
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: again. in test_script, echo needs to have full path
[17:11] <ccolorado> Maybe a better way to put it is how to share a vpn connection with other hosts without installing the vpn software on the other hosts.
[17:11] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: data also needs full path
[17:11] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO: but it works fine when it's in /root  ???
[17:11] <ccolorado> ( all hosts are on the same lan )
[17:12] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO: as a cron job I mean.
[17:12] <RFC3675> ezra-s: Is ubuntu a weak fork of debian?
[17:12] <wafflejockTablet> Must be running with /root as you working directory from the from script?
[17:13] <ezra-s> RFC3675, how easy for you to say that
[17:13] <ezra-s> RFC3675, and ignorant I might add
[17:13] <wafflejockTablet> Weak?
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> JokesOnYou77: i can't see why there whould be a difference. does * 12 * * * /root/My_Stories/test_script.sh finish wuth a \n ?
[17:13] <RFC3675> ezra-s: That was not a statement but a question...
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> s/wuth/with
[17:14] <ezra-s> RFC3675, a ver ignorant question
[17:14] <LjL> RFC3675: what do you mean by weak?
[17:14] <wafflejockTablet> It is a fork of Debian, not sure what a weak fork is
[17:14] <LjL> ezra-s: not the place to call people name
[17:14] <LjL> s
[17:14] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO: That's what I'm trying to say!  I don't think it has to do with the path to the commands.  And yes there is a newline
[17:15] <wafflejockTablet> Can u bend it with your mind yes
[17:15] <RFC3675> LjL: thanks
[17:15] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO: and the scripts are identical
[17:15] <ezra-s> Ljl, I didn't call anything to anybody, just stated the question is ignorant
[17:15] <LjL> ezra-s: yes and i'm sure we got that point by now
[17:15] <RFC3675> ezra-s: so you can prove it then
[17:15] <LjL> let it go
[17:16] <mukti> hitsujiTMO: when it shows 'Your.Server.IP.254', is it saying to only use the first three octets, and put'254' as the last octet?
[17:16] <ezra-s> one just can't come, spit a simple sentence about a problem with no data whatsoever and expect someone will squeeze their brain to solve the problem.. either that or say Linux/ubuntu/whatever is faulty
[17:16] <hitsujiTMO> mukti: thats specific to that scenario. you put the defaultgateway there
[17:16] <ezra-s> how easy and ignorant
[17:16] <mukti> hitsujiTMO: ah, okay
[17:17]  * ezra-s lets go
[17:17] <LjL> ezra-s: anyway, i'm not sure Ubuntu can be technically called a "fork", because it didn't take Debian's base at some point, and then work on it separately. instead, Ubuntu takes Debian's base (debian unstable/sid, specifically) after every release, and changes it for their release
[17:17] <RFC3675> ezra-s: I'm pretty sure it's unity's fault
[17:17] <hitsujiTMO> mukti: in that scenario ... its a /24 network and .254 is the default gw
[17:17] <LjL> i mean RFC3675
[17:17] <ezra-s> Ljl, I never said anything about forks
[17:17] <ezra-s> Ljl, you are looking at the wrong person
[17:17] <LjL> ezra-s: i meant to direct that at RFC3675, as i just said
[17:17] <kaiser_> helloo!
[17:17] <RFC3675> kaiser_: hi
[17:18] <kaiser_> i have some problems! with my iphone device
[17:18] <RFC3675> kaiser_: welcome to the ignorant world
[17:18] <kaiser_> hahahahaha
[17:18] <kaiser_> why?
[17:18]  * LjL rolls eyes
[17:18] <ezra-s> RFC3675, now it is not that ubuntu is a weak fork, it is unity's fault.. that's some useful info indeed to solve a problem
[17:18] <kaiser_> i dont think so
[17:18] <JokesOnYou77> How do I see any errors from cron?
[17:19] <kaiser_> jokesonyou
[17:19] <LjL> JokesOnYou77: cron has its own log file at /vvar/log/cron.log
[17:19] <RFC3675> ezra-s: whatever you're not objective anyway
[17:19] <LjL> minus one v
[17:19] <ezra-s> JokesOnYou77, unless you made the ouput go to > /dev/null there should be info in cron.log
[17:19] <LjL> please you two, stop bickering about this :(
[17:20] <ezra-s> RFC3675, I'm not the one making things up
[17:20] <JokesOnYou77> There is no cron.log in /var/log
[17:20] <ActionPa1snip> cron will log by default
[17:20] <RFC3675> ezra-s: I didn't make things up it really happend
[17:20] <LjL> JokesOnYou77: oh you're right sorry, i was looking at my debian terminal instead of the ubuntu one. moment
[17:21] <joossee> guys the dash home button is unbearably slow and everything ive tried from forums isnt working...? is there something I can disable in ccsm or something?
[17:21] <ezra-s> RFC3675, I didn't say it didn't happen, I'm just suprised about your early conclusions
[17:21] <joossee> ubuntu 12.04 server 64
[17:21] <wafflejockTablet> joossee: u can use xfce if u need something lighter
[17:21] <ActionPa1snip> joossee: server doesn't have a GUI
[17:22] <RFC3675> ezra-s: It was kind of a joke/troll you felt right into, I was testing the community's ppl
[17:22] <wafflejockTablet> Unity is a bit heavy
[17:22] <LjL> JokesOnYou77: hm i think ubuntu only has some cron stuff in /var/log/syslog enabled
[17:22] <joossee> ActionPa1snip, sorry? I installed the ubuntu-desktop package, also xfce wafflejockTablet
[17:22] <ActionPa1snip> joossee: then its the desktop OS
[17:22] <joossee> wafflejockTablet, xfce is a little too light and it isnt working properly for me
[17:22] <ActionPa1snip> joossee: why didnt you just install the desktop OS as that is what you wanted.
[17:22] <JokesOnYou77> LjL: ok
[17:22] <joossee> ActionPa1snip, not what I wanted.
[17:22] <ActionPa1snip> joossee: then why install it
[17:23] <joossee> ActionPa1snip, cuz im a big ol rube
[17:23] <joossee> who likes clicky icons
[17:23] <ActionPa1snip> joossee: then you want the desktop OS.
[17:23] <ezra-s> RFC3675, so you come to a place which people volunteer to help to make them waste time on you trolling
[17:23] <joossee> and understand information visually better... once I am a master I will do CLI only on the server, i promise
[17:23] <ActionPa1snip> joossee: have yu tried the Unity2D session?
[17:23] <wafflejockTablet> Hah I put xfce on my aws instance and its been fine
[17:23] <RFC3675> ezra-s: It's important to know how impartial ppl are
[17:23] <joossee> ActionPa1snip, yes, apparently it is discontinued now so, no deals... can still pick it from the list but it does nothing
[17:23] <ActionPa1snip> joossee: if you need "clicky icons" install the desktop OS, you gain zero by installing server then the GUI
[17:24] <RFC3675> ezra-s: I g2g scanning some letters to make an ocr, bye with love.
[17:24] <LjL> joossee, RFC3675: seriously, take it to PM if you need to continue discussing this, the channel doesn't need this
[17:24] <wafflejockTablet> 1ghz processor basically and 512 mb of ram runs fine with xfce
[17:24] <ActionPa1snip> joossee: Unity2D is still in the Precise repo
[17:24] <ActionPa1snip> !info unity-2d precise | joossee
[17:24] <joossee> ActionPa1snip, uhm, i presume i can remove ubuntu-desktop at a later date, or boot CLI only on the server in the future so.. not much of an issue there..
[17:24] <joossee> ooooh
[17:25] <joossee> "apt-get install unity-2d" ?
[17:25] <ActionPa1snip> joossee: removing the metapackage does nothing but remove onlythe metapackage, not its contents which it hauled in
[17:25] <kari> whois klaine22
[17:25] <JokesOnYou77> hitsujiTMO: I got it to run!  But it's still not executing the php script...just outputting to the log file
[17:25] <ActionPa1snip> joossee: with sudo, yes
[17:26] <joossee> ok package installked... will a log off due or reboot?
[17:26] <ActionPa1snip> joossee: just log off and change session in the login screen
[17:26] <joossee> roger that ty brb
[17:27] <joossee> ActionPa1snip, argghh no change :( how can i check if i am running 2d mode? cuz visually and slowness wise it is identical...?
[17:28] <ActionPa1snip> joossee: ps -ef | egrep 'miutter|compiz|kwin|metacity'
[17:29] <joossee> ActionPa1snip, ermm metacity and some others are running?
[17:29] <zykotick9> ActionPa1snip: typo?  miutter or mutter?
[17:30] <ActionPa1snip> mutter, sorry
[17:30] <ActionPa1snip> joossee: then its metacity instead of compiz, much fewer resources
[17:30] <ActionPa1snip> joossee: and fewer crashes
[17:31] <joossee> ActionPa1snip, o...k. looks like only metacity is running?
[17:32] <joossee> lemme try this a different way... how do i disable transparencys?
[17:32] <JokesOnYou77> IT WORKS!!!! You guys were right, it was all about the absolute paths to the files!
[17:33] <zykotick9> JokesOnYou77: glad you got it figured out.
[17:34] <SupaYoshi> hey
[17:34] <SupaYoshi> i have a question about TFTP
[17:35] <SupaYoshi> Im setting it up likethis right now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6400856/
[17:35] <jeffrey_f> SupaYoshi: Ask your question
[17:35] <SupaYoshi> but this tutorial tells me something else with options and directory
[17:35] <SupaYoshi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[17:35] <SupaYoshi> What is exactly correct? O.o
[17:35] <SupaYoshi> oh btw, on that guide.
[17:36] <SupaYoshi> Point 3. Configure the TFTP Server
[17:36] <SupaYoshi> My question is, am I doing it right the way Im doing it? or am i going wrong?
[17:36] <SupaYoshi> Bceause I read another tutorial which told me that it could be done this way, id like to make that my location for the PXE
[17:37] <SupaYoshi> jeffrey_f, any idea? :D
[17:40] <joossee> wafflejockTablet, dont know if this helps but regardless of weather I pick Ubuntu or Ubuntu 2D metacity is always running...
[17:40] <joossee> wafflejockTablet, dont know if this helps but regardless of weather I pick Ubuntu or Ubuntu 2D metacity is always running...
[17:41] <wafflejockTablet> Not too familiar with metacity using KDE on my laptop and XFCE on the server
[17:42] <joossee> wafflejockTablet, ya i wanted xfce to work but no deals... just the desktop image and the application bar
[17:42] <joossee> wafflejockTablet, sorta worked the first few times but then not at all.. xfce session or xubuntu session dont seem to matter...
[17:42] <wafflejockTablet> Yeah need to install xfce-goodies and some other stuff its very minimal by itself
[17:43] <wafflejockTablet> Oh weird
[17:44] <joossee> how can I check if compwiz is installed?
[17:44] <jhutchins_wk> joossee: dpkg -l compwiz
[17:44] <smacktalk> i'm running ubuntu version 3.2.0-56-generic-pae #86-Ubuntu and it's not letting me see any smb shares
[17:44] <joossee> ok
[17:44] <joossee> this is starting to make sense
[17:45] <joossee> jhutchins_wk, "sudo apt-get install compwiz" ?
[17:45] <smacktalk> I installed smb4k but it's not working
[17:46] <jhutchins_wk> joossee: That's a valid command.
[17:46] <zykotick9> !info compwiz
[17:46] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: but NOT a valid package name ;)
[17:46] <jhutchins_wk> joossee: That could be a problem.
[17:47] <joossee> jhutchins_wk, well dpkg told me its not installed... gonna give MyUnity tweaking a go. I dont really wanna run compwiz anyways
[17:47] <bazhang> perhaps he means compiz
[17:47] <joossee> oh jeez
[17:47] <joossee> i mean the composite desktop package
[17:47] <jhutchins_wk> Danged computers are so literal.
[17:47] <joossee> compiz i think
[17:47] <bazhang> "compiz"
[17:47] <joossee> lol sorry
[17:48] <jhutchins_wk> joossee: Wildcards can help, dpkg -l "comp*"
[17:48] <joossee> jhutchins_wk, bazhang ok so compiz is installed but MyUnity tells me I am running in 2D mode.
[17:48] <joossee> which is fine, i like 2D mode, if i can just get the dash home to open in under 4 seconds
[17:51] <joossee> jhutchins_wk, ok well MyUnity cant do anything in 2D mode... any theories on why dash home is so dang crusty? everything I've tried does nothing... maybe i need to turn compiz on?
[17:52] <wentknweqt_> anyone know how to downgrade php5.5 to php5.4 in ubuntu 13.10?
[17:53] <wafflejockTablet> Remove php 5.5 install PHP 5.4 update your server config
[17:53] <wafflejockTablet> sudo apt-get remove
[17:53] <ikonia> wafflejockTablet: its not that simple
[17:53] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: is there a php 5.4 package in ubuntu 13.10 ?
[17:53] <zykotick9> ikonia: +1
[17:53] <wafflejockTablet> Why not?
[17:54] <wentknweqt_> I didn't see one with apt-cache search
[17:54] <ikonia> wafflejockTablet: where is he going to get the lower package from, what about packages that depend on the 5.5 package ?
[17:54] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: I didn't think so,
[17:54] <wentknweqt_> er, showpkg
[17:54] <wafflejockTablet> I went from 5.3 to 5.5 its not in the main repos
[17:54] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: the idea is you use the packages shipped with the distribution, and I'm not aware of 13.10 having a 5.4 package,
[17:54] <ikonia> wafflejockTablet: yes, that's an "upgrade" and it's probably using an external PPA
[17:55] <wentknweqt_> 5.4 is a downgrade. 5.5 is in 13.10 main i think
[17:55] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: yes, and I don't think there is a 5.4 package
[17:57] <wentknweqt_> erh, okay, i guess it's time to make it from source and run php 5.4 side by side with 5
[17:57] <wentknweqt_> err 5.5.
[17:57] <wafflejockTablet> What problems in 5.5?
[17:57] <wentknweqt_> Laravel 3.x doesn't work because they decided to use yield as a method name before it became a keyword.
[17:58] <wafflejockTablet> Ah bummer
[17:58] <wentknweqt_> And they're not updating it because "they used yield first."
[17:58] <wafflejockTablet> Haha
[17:58] <wafflejockTablet> Php came first
[17:59] <wentknweqt_> LoL yeah, I tried to tell them that, and they suggested I hack up their source. I'd rather compile PHP than edit their stuff.
[18:02] <Xylight> hi
[18:03] <cristian__c> Hi
[18:03] <cristian__c> I've installed bustle
[18:03] <Xylight> i've just installed ubuntu studio on virtualbox, i wanna try ^_^
[18:04] <Xylight> it looks very good!
[18:08] <cristian_c> Hi
[18:09] <cristian_c> I've installed bustle
[18:09] <bolt_> thon
[18:12] <zykotick9> cristian_c: do you have a follow up question?  or just making a statement?
[18:15] <cristian_c> The server has disconnected me. Has anyone answered?
[18:16] <zykotick9> cristian_c: you haven't asked anything?  how could someone answer?
[18:16] <thecha> well he asked and you did answer
[18:17] <cristian_c> zykotick9, no, I've asked before
[18:17] <zykotick9> cristian_c: ok, good luck.
[18:18] <jmgk_> hi
[18:22] <guest-1rj7YK> bonjour, j'ai réinstallé sans toucher à mon home xubuntu et lorsque je me connecte à mon user par défaut avec le mot d epasse saisi lors de l'installation, le système revient sur mon user sans me donner aucune indication d el'erreur avez vous une solution?
[18:23] <guest-1rj7YK> merci
[18:23] <thecha> lol
[18:23] <guest-1rj7YK> c'est pas très lol
[18:23] <thecha> pardonez moi
[18:24] <guest-1rj7YK> il n'y a pas d emal
[18:24] <thecha> il n'y a pas?
[18:24] <Myrtti> !fr
[18:24] <guest-1rj7YK> de soucis avec votre humour
[18:24] <guest-1rj7YK> ok, merci je vais essayer
[18:25] <thecha> tu peut parle naglais?
[18:25] <thecha> !rs
[18:26] <thecha> !de
[18:26] <jmgk_> hi
[18:26] <jmgk_> hm
[18:27] <jmgk_> !in
[18:29] <thecha> i have a question concering gonme 3 if i drag a shortcut into the panel i cantg et rifd of it how do i get rid of it?
[18:29] <cristian_c> Another question
[18:29] <cristian_c> How can I disable the mysql auto-load?
[18:29] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[18:32] <wilmingtin> How do I mount an encrypted internal drive when booting from a liveCD?
[18:33] <zykotick9> wilmingtin: ahhh, while boot (from LiveCD) is gonna make it challenging (do you want to remaster an ISO?).  can't you boot first, then mount?
[18:34] <wilmingtin> zykotick9: sorry, should have been clearer: Yes, that's what I meant.
[18:34] <wilmingtin> I'm booted now, trying to mount/decrypt
[18:34] <TJ-> wilmingtin: Use "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/encrypted decrypted" to open it, then mount it using "sudo mount /dev/mapper/decrypted /path/to/mountpoint"
[18:34] <CarlFK> zykotick9: how would you (or wilmingtin ) do it if booting from whatever you mean by "boot first"  ?
[18:35] <TJ-> wilmingtin: replacing "/dev/encrypted" and "/path/to/mountpoint" with suitable values for your system
[18:35] <CarlFK> ah, I see the confusion. never mind ;)
[18:36] <zykotick9> CarlFK: / wilmingtin - i have no idea guys... i don't currently use any encrypted filesystem stuff...  wilmingtin i hope it's not truecrypt encrypted...
[18:36] <wilmingtin> TJ-: I'm not sure what the path to the disk is. I know how big it is, is there a way for me to find it?
[18:36] <wilmingtin> zykotick9: nope, LUKS/LVM
[18:36] <TJ-> wilmingtin: You could try "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id"
[18:36] <CarlFK> wilmingtin: try "sudo fdisk -l"
[18:36] <wafflejockTablet> Find takes parameters for date modified believe size as well
[18:37] <zykotick9> wilmingtin: well that's good ;)  fyi, you might want to sub "sudo parted -l" for fdisk, if you use GPT
[18:37] <tripelb> 12.04 gnome-classic. Hello and Help. Yes that's my question where is the help so I can look up someothing about my ubuntu. I have looked in the menus and the submenus and the steering wheel and the desktop rightclick and the various shift keys + f. I really appreciate your help on this profound and difficult mater. Derp.
[18:37] <abyss42> i can access my vm on ip, but i would like to assign a readable hostname to that ip. what is the best way to do that?
[18:38] <patb_> abyss42, just add an entry to /etc/hosts
[18:38] <zykotick9> abyss42: if it's for only one comp, easiest is /etc/hosts
[18:38] <CarlFK> tripelb: I keep hitting f1 and getting help when I don't want it.. try that?
[18:38] <ezra-s> tripelb, I recall from memory but have you tried pressing F1?
[18:38] <ezra-s> CarlFK, :)
[18:39] <CarlFK> jinks
[18:39] <tripelb> for help I also tried F1 on the desktop, thanks for your hint carl.
[18:40] <abyss42> patb_: in my host machine right..not my vm
[18:40] <tripelb2> CarlFK, f1 does work in hexchat.
[18:40] <Eagleman> I want to to setup a script with a cronjob to run once every 3 months on the first sunday but i have no clue on how to do that, i tried googling a few scripts but they dont seem to work, any idea how to do this?
[18:41] <tripelb2> CarlFK, maybe that wasnt clear - when I use F1 on the desktop I do NOT get help
[18:41] <tripelb2> or hep
[18:41] <wilmingtin> TJ-, CarlFK: ah found it, /dev/sda, but cryptsetup returns "Device /dev/sda is not a valid LUKS device."
[18:42] <CarlFK> wilmingtin: that's cuz you didn't find it :)
[18:42] <TJ-> wilmingtin: Usually it'll be a *partition* on /dev/sda
[18:42] <CarlFK> wilmingtin: try /dev/sda1
[18:42] <wilmingtin> doh
[18:43] <joossee> ok making progress... dash home is now quick, however i have lost dual screen support
[18:43] <patb_> abyss42, that's correct
[18:43] <joossee> question: the open source amd drivers and fglrx are different things right?
[18:44] <wilmingtin> TJ-, CarlFK -- nice catch. Now mount is returning "mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'"
[18:45] <TJ-> wilmingtin: Have you successfully opened the LUKS volume?
[18:45] <wilmingtin> TJ-: yes
[18:45] <CarlFK> wilmingtin: I am going out on a limb, but I bet your encrypted fs is living inside a container that lives on sda1..
[18:45] <TJ-> wilmingtin: In which case, it contains an LVM volume group
[18:45] <CarlFK> TJ-: sounds like you are way more on top of this than me, so I'll shut up now
[18:46] <adamk> joossee: Yes, the open source driver is a different driver from the proprietary driver (fglrx).
[18:46] <TJ-> wilmingtin: so you'll need to ensure "lvm2" package is installed, and do "sudo vgscan" and then "sudo vgchange -ay"
[18:46] <Natalie_> Is  Clam AV compatible to use as my anti-virus for my Ubuntu-13.10?
[18:46] <joossee> adamk, ty. how can I check which of the two I am running?
[18:46] <adamk> joossee: Both support dual monitors.
[18:46] <adamk> joossee: Check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to see which driver is getting loaded.
[18:47] <TJ-> wilmingtin: Correction. You'll need "sudo pvscan" !
[18:47] <wilmingtin> TJ-: ok, installing lvm2 now..
[18:47] <joossee> adamk, i would really like to stay with open drivers, but I notice that I do not get any dual screen options in the Settings/Display as I used to when using proprietary drivers?
[18:47] <zykotick9> !virus | Natalie_ yes clam will work.  but why?
[18:48] <daftykins> Natalie_: if you absolutely insist on using AV, then yes packages exist for ClamAV so it should work fine.
[18:48] <wilmingtin> TJ-: still "vgchange" or "pvchange?
[18:49] <adamk> joossee: As I said, both the open source radeon driver and the proprietary fglrx driver support multiple monitors.  I'd need to see the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file from when you are using the radeon driver to tell you why you can't configure dual monitors.
[18:49] <TJ-> wilmingtin: Yes. pvscan looks for all physical volumes... "vgchange -ay" activates all found volume groups
[18:49] <vershan> hi i have a HP Pavilion dv7-4150si Entertainment Notebook PC and installed ubuntu 13.10 and looking for hardware support. The touchpad doesnt work well (very stick) - graphics see to be ok, and theres no sound - this is the spec of my laptop http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=za&lc=en&docname=c02529139 - i really want to get the best out of it as I dont like Windows
[18:49] <joossee> adamk, i think i know why: I had to add "nomodeset" to grub or else I got a black screen monitors lose signal type of hang which i can only crtl-alt-del out of...?
[18:50] <adamk> joossee: If you use 'nomodeset' then the radeon driver is disabled and you end up with the vesa driver, which does not have 2D or 3D acceleration or support for multiple monitors.
[18:50] <wilmingtin> TJ-: ok, now I've got " 2 logical volume(s) in volume group "ubuntu" now active" -- do I mount /dev/sda5 now?
[18:51] <joossee> adamk, ok that makes a lot of sense, except that th vesa sriver perfroms better than fglrx
[18:51] <TJ-> wilmingtin: Once that's done, do "ls /dev/mapper/" and figure out which of of those LV file-systems you want to mount, and then you can finally do "sudo mount /dev/mapper/VGNAME-LVNAME /path/to/mountpoint" !
[18:51] <wilmingtin> TJ-: awesome. going through now
[18:51] <adamk> joossee: If you say so...  fglrx has a lot of detractors, but I've never heard that claim before.
[18:52] <joossee> adamk, can I pastbin my xorg log file for you? I guess the first thing I need to do is get it booting without nomodeset
[18:52] <SupaYoshi> hey guys
[18:52] <adamk> joossee: Sure, I'll take a look.  Can't promise I can help, but I'll look.
[18:52] <SupaYoshi> instead of setting up PXE im thinking about FOG, because it is doing what I wanted to do with just PXe
[18:52] <arsenicum> is someone using qt creator at subj? I have strange creator's window behaviour
[18:52] <SupaYoshi> for what I assume this is a good idea?
[18:53] <wilmingtin> TJ-: Mounted! Thanks a lot, I've been stuck on this for days :)
[18:53] <joossee> http://pastebin.com/jvnrZtY8 adamk
[18:53] <Eliyahu> what is the best distro of linux to use on an older laptop with good gui , the laptop is a compaq Evo N600c intel pentium 3
[18:53] <vershan> looking for hardware support hi i have a HP Pavilion dv7-4150si Entertainment Notebook PC and installed ubuntu 13.10 and looking for hardware support. The touchpad doesnt work well (very stick) - graphics see to be ok, and theres no sound - this is the spec of my laptop http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=za&lc=en&docname=c02529139 - i really want to get the best out of it as I dont like Windows
[18:54] <Eagleman> I need to test if my cronjob runs on the days i specified but since those days are 3 months between i have to change the date of the ubuntu machine to test it, but sometimes it works and sometimes its not working, is this becuase i am changing the date of the machine?
[18:54] <tripelb> OK so I have no clue how to get help (in 12.04 gnome-classic) so I'll ask here. It useta be that when I went to a different desktop I didnt have all my same icons all over it, it was just clear. Now in 12.04 it's littered just the same as my original desktop and with the same background. I ask, what's the point now?
[18:55] <adamk> joossee: Much as I expected, you are using the vesa Xorg driver.
[18:56] <wafflejock> tripelb: can use different viewports for managing your open apps not just the set of icons.. mostly that's what I've used it for
[18:56] <wafflejock> in KDE you can swtich this in the settings for if you'd like different wallpapers/widgets on different desktops or shared, imagine this is true in Unity as well but may be need unity-tweaks or something to get at it
[18:56] <joossee> adamk, yes as the open source driver just black screens...?
[18:57] <adamk> joossee: I can't help with just a black screen with the radeon driver without seeing the output of 'dmesg' and the Xorg log file from when you use the radeon driver.
[18:57] <wafflejock> Eagleman: I'm not super familiar with kron so I just got a GUI to handle the details for me, maybe a good idea for you too
[18:57] <wafflejock> cron*
[18:57] <Eagleman> wafflejock kinda hard when you dont have a desktop D:
[18:58] <wafflejock> Eagleman: ah gotcha.. yeah dunno I installed some cron package believe it was just called Kron and it added a option to my settings in KDE to configure a job... if you'd like I can do the schedule you said and drop you the cron line it adds
[18:58] <joossee> adamk, how can I procure that for you? I think I can avoid the black screen if I can tell it not to load the windowmanager? (i thought that is what nomodeset did)
[18:59] <fredrik_> I have problems with that two instances of cairo dock starts everytime I start ubuntu... Where can I fix that?
[18:59] <Eagleman> wafflejock i am not sure if you can do what i want with cron
[18:59] <Eagleman> maybe cron isnt able to manage itself, need some external scripts to get it working
[18:59] <mfilipe> I installed an ubuntu server with kde-minimium-bare and I wanna install Ubuntu One too. What is the package?
[19:00] <joossee> adamk, basically can I jst tell it to go CLI with the open source driver that is causing the blackscreen?
[19:00] <zykotick9> joossee: using nomodeset disables the kernel mode drivers.  text disables DMs from starting.
[19:00] <Eagleman> I need to test if my cronjob runs on the days i specified but since those days are 3 months between i have to change the date of the ubuntu machine to test it, but sometimes it works and sometimes its not working, is this becuase i am changing the date of the machine?
[19:01] <zykotick9> s/mode drivers/mode video drivers/ if that wasn't clear.
[19:01] <joossee> zykotick9, ok ty. this file Xorg.0.log can be copied from CLI?
[19:02] <zykotick9> !pastebinit | joossee perhaps this will help, if you've got network.
[19:02] <joossee> zykotick9, i just put "text" where i ordinarily put "nomodeset"?
[19:02] <zykotick9> joossee: ya.  but i guess you need nomodeset...
[19:02] <zykotick9> joossee: or both!
[19:03] <joossee> zykotick9, right, i dont think just putting it in text will fix it.. i has similar issue before but fglrx fixed all that
[19:03] <tpw_rules> hey all, i'm having a slight issue with ubuntu. when i plug in an external hard drive, it doesn't auto-mount. if i try to mount it via the gui (clicking on it), it complains that mounting is not authorized. any ideas what's up?
[19:03] <zykotick9> joossee: sorry i don't help with ATI/AMD stuff... best of luck.
[19:03] <tpw_rules> this is 12.04LTS btw
[19:03] <joossee> zykotick9, lol ok ty anyways
[19:03] <tpw_rules> also, it works without error if i sudo mount from the terminal
[19:04] <joossee> adamk, can I not just tell the visa driver what my monitor and virtual desktop sizes are?
[19:04] <joossee> vesa
[19:04] <zykotick9> joossee: vesa is EXTREMELY limited ;)
[19:04] <joossee> oh gawd.. but it works so good
[19:06] <joossee> question: do i need to purge the open source driver before "apt-get install fglrx" ?
[19:06] <patb_> joossee, I don't think so; I didn't have to
[19:06] <zykotick9> joossee: NO, that would want to take Xorg with it!
[19:06] <adamk> joossee: No, you don't need to do that.
[19:06] <Eagleman> Will this run every 3 months on the first sunday only? http://lpaste.net/1321184527829172224
[19:07] <joossee> adamk, zykotick9 patb_ ok so just "apt-get install fglrx" and a reboot?
[19:07] <adamk> joossee: When using the radeon driver, do not pass 'nomodeset' to the driver, but try passing 'video=640x480'
[19:07] <wafflejock> Eagleman: yeah tried doing some searching can't really come up with a reliable method of testing it... depends on the implementation I'm sure, would probably have to look at the source to be sure
[19:07] <joossee> adamk, oh fglrx works perfectly other than the dash home button being extremely slow. i was only ytying to fix that
[19:07] <joossee> trying
[19:07] <adamk> joossee: OK, then go back to fglrx :-)
[19:08] <joossee> i guess i will have to... is there any changes i can make to the open source driver to try and get it to run?
[19:08] <Eagleman> wafflejock, this current script seems to work but there are some problems when changing the date, for example changing 2 times to the first sunday of october wont touch the file
[19:08] <adamk> joossee: That's what I was suggesting by passing 'video=640x480' to the kernel.  That will force KMS to use 640x480 as the console resolution.
[19:09] <joossee> adamk, ok so I should try that resolution, with the open source driver going?
[19:09] <joossee> instead of nomodeset ?
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[19:10] <fredrik_> I have problems with that two instances of cairo dock starts everytime I start ubuntu... Where can I fix that?
[19:10] <adamk> joossee: Well, it's worth testing to see if that at least works.
[19:10] <joossee> ok will do bnow ty adamk brb
[19:16] <david_gomez> hi ! :)
[19:17] <david_gomez> :okay:
[19:17] <david_gomez> bye!
[19:18] <ObrienDave> another happy customer ;)
[19:24] <trevorj> Hi guys, I compile a custom flavor of the Ubuntu kernel for our boxen here based on Ubuntu's kernel git. I've been trying to figure out the proper way to create a source package that I can upload to an apt repo. Anyone have any experience with this?
[19:24] <heavyammo> I tried downloading Tor from the package center. I downloaded two packages that came up for "tor", tor and vidalia. I only had new menu for Vidalia in my Internet menus. I tried running it, it executes but nothing happens (I had open several instances). Closed them, purged, rebooted, apt-get install tor, apt-get install vidalia and it is still the same, vidalia doesn't open up
[19:24] <heavyammo> could anybody help
[19:25] <PDilyard> is there a way i can configure the php mail function to work on my localhost?
[19:25] <PDilyard> i've installed sendmail, but it doesnt seem to work
[19:26] <hitsujiTMO> trevorj: easiet thing to do is apt-get source the kernel, make your modificatiosn to that. then repackage that
[19:26] <PDilyard> sudo sendmail -f test@test.com myaddress@gmail.com < ~/Desktop/test
[19:26] <wafflejock> PDilyard: probably not if you're on a home connection through Comcast
[19:26] <ObrienDave> heavyammo, find the Tor website, get the instructions for there :)
[19:26] <PDilyard> wafflejock: ok
[19:26] <wafflejock> PDilyard: they block port 25
[19:26] <ObrienDave> *from
[19:26] <trevorj> hitsujiTMO: I'd rather do it from the git repo, as I track my changes in our git repo here
[19:26] <trevorj> hitsujiTMO: and I use that to port our changes forward for each release
[19:27] <PDilyard> wafflejock: but i could configure smtp to work, right?
[19:27] <hitsujiTMO> trevorj: in that case the guys in #ubuntu-app-devel would be better at guiding you thru making packages
[19:27] <patb_> PDilyard, are you getting the error "sendmail: fatal: open/postfix....."?
[19:28] <PDilyard> patb_: im not getting any errors, it just hangs for a bit and then completes, but i dont receive any mail
[19:28] <wafflejock> PDilyard: I beleive you should be able to get smtp working through comcast... haven't done this in a while though just know I couldn't get postfix setup here because of the blocked port
[19:28] <trevorj> hitsujiTMO: I can make the binary packages just fine, I just don't know how using the ubuntu kernel debianization to make the source package/changes files
[19:29] <trevorj> hitsujiTMO: Thanks though, I'll ask there if nobody responds to me in #ubuntu-kernel, I don't want to spam every channel at once just yet =D
[19:30] <Guest34787> does anyone know how to install flash player on a chromebook running ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[19:30] <JimJones> whats the command to edit something like /etc/init.d/vncserver
[19:31] <wafflejock> JimJones: nano or vi or vim
[19:31] <wafflejock> JimJones: or gedit or kate
[19:31] <wafflejock> depends on where you are and what you like
[19:31] <JimJones> something like sudo nano ./etc/init.d/vncserver ?
[19:31] <xstefen> ^ +1
[19:31] <wafflejock> JimJones: yup looks like an extra dot there nano /etc/init.d/vncserver
[19:32] <xstefen> or gedit/leafpad if u have those
[19:32] <JimJones> tks
[19:32] <wafflejock> np
[19:32] <wafflejock> ctrl+o to write the file
[19:32] <xstefen> gksu gedit /etc/init.d/vncserver
[19:32] <xstefen> :D
[19:32] <wafflejock> ctrl+x to exit
[19:32] <wafflejock> JimJones: you'll see the commands in the bottom of the screen
[19:33] <wafflejock> JimJones: if the file is owned by root you will need to precede the command with sudo as others say here... also if you're using a GUI one like gedit use gksudo, if using KDE like kate use kdesudo as necessary
[19:35] <smacktalk> I'm trying to upgrade ubuntu from 12.4...it's failing
[19:36] <smacktalk> says 404 error on fetching from http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/source/Sources
[19:37] <smacktalk> anyone have a suggestion on going from 12.04 to 13?
[19:37] <PDilyard> wafflejock: in case you were wondering, i got gmail's smtp to work. thanks for the tip!
[19:38] <ObrienDave> smacktalk, trusty is NOT supported yet.
[19:38] <wafflejock> PDilyard: no worries, thx for letting me know too perhaps will give that a go here just to have something setup to test my development stuff without having to push to a staging server
[19:38] <DJones> smacktalk: That looks like its trying to upgrade to 14.04 not 12.10 because thats a trusty repository, 14.04 has only just started being developed so its no surprise that the repo's are incomplete
[19:39] <DJones> smacktalk: Don't forget you can only safely upgrade to 12.10 at the moment, or to 14.04 when its released
[19:39] <jhutchins_wk> smacktalk: Yeah, wait a bit.
[19:41] <jhutchins_wk> smacktalk: There are a few problems ith 13.04 and several with 13.10.
[19:41] <fredrik_> I have problems with that two instances of cairo dock starts everytime I start ubuntu... Where can I fix that?
[19:41] <smacktalk> oh, good to know
[19:41] <smacktalk> I'm having problems with 12.04 not recognizing smb shares
[19:42] <Ari-Yang> smacktalk: you on 12.04.3?
[19:42] <smacktalk> works just fine in fedora
[19:42] <wafflejock> smacktalk: trying to connect by IP? or just unable to browse?
[19:42] <Ari-Yang> smacktalk: like what the others have said, if you're on 12.04, might as well stick with it. 13.04 is eol soon and there are problems in 13.10 you might come across
[19:42] <Ari-Yang> 12.10 is fine if you're already using it (like me)
[19:42] <smacktalk> VERSION="12.04.3 LTS, Precise Pangolin"
[19:43] <deatheater_1> Is there a trick to auto-hiding the Unity Launcher in VMWare virtual machine using Ubuntu 13.10?
[19:43] <deatheater_1> Or is it simply just not going to work?
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> deatheater_1  not sure if vmware is supported here
[19:44] <smacktalk> unable to connect via ip nor browse
[19:45] <callumtaylor> no eth0 just eth3
[19:45] <callumtaylor> someone plz help
[19:45] <smacktalk> just not working
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> callumtaylor  change your settings, so they find eth3
[19:45] <callumtaylor> can some one tell me how to change my eth3 to eth0
[19:46] <callumtaylor> how tho im new to this
[19:47] <smacktalk> fedora works just fine out of the box with browsing smb shares...I've tried installing smb4k on ubuntu and it's not working
[19:47] <Natalie-5274> Is this the command I'm suppose to use:  ps ax | grep [c] | and
[19:47] <callumtaylor> monkeydust how do i do tht
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> Natalie-5274  depends on what you waht to achieve
[19:47] <daftykins> Natalie-5274: for what?
[19:47] <Natalie-5274> to see if I have clamav
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> Natalie-5274  apt-cache policy clavav
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> Natalie-5274  apt-cache policy clamav
[19:48] <daftykins> must get that echo fixed
[19:48] <callumtaylor> iz this
[19:48] <iceroot> Natalie-5274: what do you mean? if it is installed?
[19:48] <YokoBR> hey guys, i have a laptop w/o dvd drive. Would be possible to plug the hard drive on my computer, install the operating system, then plug it back again?
[19:48] <iceroot> YokoBR: yes
[19:48] <daftykins> YokoBR: you don't own a USB flash drive?
[19:49] <iceroot> YokoBR: but you can also install from a usb stick as installation surce
[19:49] <YokoBR> nope, i don't have one here now
[19:49] <YokoBR> i have just a debian desktop and this laptop
[19:49] <YokoBR> the hdd is already plugged in
[19:49] <YokoBR> on debian
[19:50] <supNow> so I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 and it appeared to destroy many things and the time to repair seemed to long so since I backup all my files on a server I figured I would just install 13.10 from scratch. I'm now getting a black grub menu on boot... help?
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue ?
[19:51] <YokoBR> MonkeyDust, there's no problem at all with the harddrive
[19:51] <Ari-Yang> .....I'm never upgrading to 13.10 :|
[19:51] <YokoBR> i just want to install an operating system into it, then plug back on the laptop again
[19:51] <deatheater_1> Seriously, what's the trick with the Unity toolbar once you Auto-Hide it.  This is maddening....
[19:52] <infused> yokobr is it networked?
[19:52] <YokoBR> hummm.. yep
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  what happens when you try?
[19:52] <daftykins> supNow: everything goes black on first boot?
[19:53] <infused> yokoBR try a remote ssh might be easer if possable im not sure
[19:53] <deatheater_1> Anybody know what this means, "The launcher will reveal when moving the pointer to the defined hotspot."
[19:53] <YokoBR> MonkeyDust, nothing, i gues.. I'm just asking if it's possible. Or due to hardware compatibilities it would crash
[19:53] <deatheater_1> Where is the defined hotspot?
[19:54] <supNow> daftykins, first boot and many after not just black it's a black screen with a grub prompt
[19:54] <supNow> daftykins, http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/sklipikish/openSUSE/20121114_054449_zps8e9b2b5b.jpg that is the grub screen I get after completed install
[19:55] <trism> deatheater_1: in 13.10 at least, you can set it to either the top left corner or the left side in System Settings/Appearance
[19:55] <daftykins> supNow: looks like it's gone pretty wrong, do you have more than one HDD/SSD in this system?
[19:55] <supNow> I do but it boots to the one with ubuntu by default (my ssd)
[19:55] <deatheater_1> trism:  How come the launcher will only come up when pressing the "Windows" button on the keyboard?
[19:56] <daftykins> supNow: i would recommend reinstalling from scratch (nuking everything) with just the OS drive attached
[19:57] <trism> deatheater_1: bug I guess, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/971018
[19:57] <supNow> daftykins, I may do that I'm going to load a live session to see if it's actually there and possibly try boot repair. Thanks for the help though
[19:57] <daftykins> supNow: no worries, good luck
[19:57] <Natalie-5274> Are there any games for ubuntu that are like The Sims?
[19:58] <deatheater_1> Wow... ubottu that really makes Ubuntu a rough desktop to bother virtualizing.  Why hasn't someone fixed this?
[19:58] <gordonjcp> deatheater_1: ubottu is a bot
[19:59] <gordonjcp> deatheater_1: the simple answer is not to auto-hide the panel...
[20:00] <deatheater_1> I know ubottu is a bot.  Hopefully he can listen as well as talk... :-)
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> deatheater_1  ubottu is a she
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> !gender
[20:02] <daftykins> that's the most pointless thing ever
[20:03] <hitsujiTMO> daftykins: its a legacy feature. ubottu is infact built on top of a lovebot
[20:03] <dowshool> http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Acer-Aspire-One-D250-1026-10.1-Netbook-Intel-Atom-N270-1.60-GHz/4812697/product.html will run ubuntu?
[20:03] <daftykins> hitsujiTMO: say no more, say no more ;)
[20:04] <deatheater_1> nice...  I'm glad we've got gender assigned bots now.   Must have had re-assignment surgery fairly recently.   :-)
[20:04] <daftykins> dowshool: yes, but i'd recommend xubuntu or lubuntu
[20:04] <mah454> Hello , ....
[20:04] <daftykins> mah454: hi
[20:05] <mah454> I upgrade to 13.10 , now my laptop crashed after switch to sleep mode !
[20:05] <mah454> how can debug it ?
[20:05] <hitsujiTMO> dowshool: that will be of for ubuntu 12.04 with unity2d. The gpu cannot handle 3d effects very well
[20:05] <deatheater_1> OK.. So much for unity.  What do you think about Gnome 3 Ubuntu running in virtual machine.  Anybody using that?
[20:05] <Pici> 70
[20:05] <infused> whould this be the channle to ask about lamp
[20:05] <daftykins> infused: sure, though #ubuntu-server more appropriately i would think
[20:06] <dowshool> ok thanks guys i figured it would be alright
[20:06] <hitsujiTMO> deatheater_1: i find modern gnome to be quite clunky and cumbersome to use.
[20:06] <daftykins> dowshool: it is a netbook though, so it'd only be good for light web browsing / email
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> deatheater_1: as way suggested earlier disabling auto-hide for the launcher is a viable fix
[20:07] <deatheater_1> hitsujiTMO: Thanks for the feedback.  I find Unity pretty clunky when you can't auto-hide the launcher in a Virtual Machine...
[20:07] <deatheater_1> I like my desktop real estate.
[20:07] <dowshool> daftykins: im not planing to play minecraft on it
[20:08] <deatheater_1> I guess I can limp along by using the Windows button to invoke the unity launcher.
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> deatheater_1: i quite like openbox with lxpanel for maximum realestate + usability
[20:09] <minimec> deatheater_1: e17 + gnome-panel... Working like charm.
[20:09] <daftykins> deatheater_1: in platform-agnostic land, we call that 'Super' :D
[20:09] <wafflejock> deatheater_1: yeah explore other DE options
[20:10] <wafflejock> deatheater_1: Unity is not for everyone, it's meant for the majority but I'm not sure that's even true, lots of people switch
[20:11] <dowshool> guys since its an atom possessor dose that mean 32?
[20:11] <kostkon> dowshool, not necessarily but usually yes
[20:12] <kostkon> dowshool, which one
[20:12] <hitsujiTMO> dowshool: yes the n270 is a 32bit processor
[20:12] <dowshool> cool  thanks
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> dowshool: and give the age of it, 273 eur is over priced for that machine
[20:13] <mah454> Can use fglrx ATI vide driver with nomodeset in boot option ?
[20:14] <adamk> mah454: Yes.
[20:14] <infused> dowshool i managed to get ubuntu 12.04 to work on a hp mini 110
[20:14] <mah454> adamk: but i can not set true resolution with this method !
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> mah454: nomodeset is for the open driver not the proprietary driver if that's what you are asking
[20:14] <dowshool> i think im feeling xubuntu this time around
[20:15] <mythri> dowshool, xubuntu only has a different WM
[20:16] <dowshool> mythri: xfce4 right?
[20:16] <mythri> yes
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> dowshool  what's the very last line of    sudo dmidecode --type 4
[20:16] <mah454> hitsujiTMO: my problem is : my laptop use : [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series] , now after upgrade to 13.10 , my system crash after sleeping computer .
[20:17] <mah454> sorry for bad english !
[20:17] <mythri> dowshool, while xfce is lighter weight on the hardware than unity is, everything else will be the same ubuntu
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> mah454 a crasdh after sleep is not what nomodeset is for
[20:17] <dowshool> MonkeyDust: http://paste.debian.net/65283/
[20:17] <Natalie-5274> are there any family simulators (like the sims) for ubuntu?
[20:18] <hitsujiTMO> mah454: you will need to find out what's causing the problem https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[20:18] <dowshool> MonkeyDust: i dont have the computer right now that im about to install xubuntu on it has windoze on it
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> dowshool  are you in ubuntu right now?
[20:18] <dowshool> MonkeyDust: on my desktop yeah
[20:18] <astropirate> Hello friends
[20:19] <astropirate> Does ubuntu 12.10 use upstart or monit?
[20:19] <wafflejock> Natalie-5274: not that I know of but Steam has a fair amount of Linux games now, maybe something there of interest
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> dowshool  you have more than one pc?
[20:19] <iceroot> astropirate: upstart (and i dont know what monit should be)
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> Natalie-5274: not exactly the sims but: http://www.familyfarmgame.com/en/family-farm-game
[20:20] <dowshool> MonkeyDust: i have many computers but this acer aspire one that im about to set up for my buddy is what im talking about
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> Natalie-5274: you should check the offerings on steam too
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> dowshool  and what system is that pc in? windows or linux?
[20:20] <dowshool> windows xpsp3
[20:21] <cuddylier> Does anyone know how to kill a 'redir' process? Whenever I kill it even using -9 it just comes back.
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> dowshool  ok, ask in ##windows how to find out if it's 32bit or 64bit, windoiws is alien to this channel
[20:21] <AlexPortable> Hi, I have Winows 7 and Linux (Ubuntu or Mint I don't recall) installed on my laptop. Only Windows 7 was able to boot. I used a live-usb to repair grub, but now none boot. I get:
[20:21] <AlexPortable> error: out of disk
[20:21] <AlexPortable> grub> 000000
[20:21] <adamk> mah454: The fglrx driver does not support KMS.  Using 'nomodeset' is completely harmless because it doesn't do a single thing with the fglrx driver.
[20:22] <dowshool> MonkeyDust: hitsujiTMO  already told me it was 32
[20:22] <dowshool> haha
[20:22] <Eagleman> Will this run every 3 months on the first sunday only? http://lpaste.net/1321184527829172224
[20:22] <Danato> guys how can i change my date format? I live in Macau-China, but im not chinese. Whenever something with date comes, it shows me chinese characters. Ive tried changed countries and time_zone, i still get chinese :/
[20:22] <hitsujiTMO> astropirate: upstart and monit are 2 very different things. upstart is an init process, monit is for monitoring stuff
[20:23] <astropirate> ahhhh
[20:23] <mythri> dowshool, acer aspires are so peculiar with ubuntu that they have their own help docs - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[20:23] <astropirate> thanks friends
[20:23] <OerHeks> Eagleman, you can verify with a cronjob calculator, faster than we can > http://www.csgnetwork.com/crongen.html
[20:23] <dowshool> mythri: i own 2 acer aspires one on ubuntu and the other on debian stable
[20:24] <c4rbonix> hello
[20:24] <Eagleman> OerHeks that seems really limited
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> astropirate: ofcourse for any service that you want to monitor with monit, you do need to init it with monit, so it does have an init feature, but that is not the purpose of the app
[20:25] <astropirate> I see
[20:25] <astropirate> thank you hitsujiTMO
[20:26] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i have a problem i upgraded my kernal and ever since i did that i am getting a blackscreen so what i did was try nomodeset and it does not work i tried vesafb.nonsense=1 and that did not work
[20:26] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to kill this? -9 didn't work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6401686/
[20:26] <Psil0Cybin> and when i resintalled my graphic drivers via additional drivers
[20:26] <Psil0Cybin> it messed up my previous kernel to always start off in low-graphic mode
[20:27] <Danato> this is the output of date: 2013年 11月 11日 星期一 12:26:42 PST
[20:27] <Danato>  does anybody know how to avoid those chinese characters?
[20:27] <grimeton> set a different locale
[20:28] <r1ddl3r> learn chinese
[20:28] <Danato> already tried that
[20:28] <Danato> well both :P
[20:28] <Danato> i already tried changing locale and time_zone, nothing worked
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: can you get us the dmesg and Xorg.0.log from when the system is booting to desktop and for when it is going to the black screen (its still randomly booting to desktop every once in a while right?)
[20:29] <Psil0Cybin> yes hitsujiTMO
[20:29] <OerHeks> Eagleman, every 3 months is oke, but 1st sunday is a problem, i think, you can determine sunday.
[20:29] <Psil0Cybin> boots in randomly its like a lazy graphic driver
[20:29] <Psil0Cybin> yes ill get you the dmesg one second
[20:30] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you pastebin the output of: locale
[20:32] <hitsujiTMO> * * 1-7 */3 0     = first sunday every 3 months
[20:32] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: this is weird because its not whats showing on settings http://pastebin.com/Rjr02tv7
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: LC_TIME=zh_CN.UTF-8 is your problem. i presume you want just en_US for all?
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: or do you want somethings to be chinese?
[20:33] <you-tee-f> can I install a rpm file on my unix distribution ?
[20:33] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: yes, I live in Macau-China, but i dont speak any chinese at all
[20:33] <jp> Hi All, having an issue trying to update 12.04 server, keep getting a failure to mysql dependancies.
[20:34] <jp> http://pastebin.com/FwZGygQT
[20:34] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: I want it all in english, but the time zone of macau
[20:34] <you-tee-f> is in here some bearded men with glasses that can help me ?
[20:34] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/us541LK4
[20:34] <Psil0Cybin> i think this is the one from the problematic kernel i am having
[20:34] <auronandace> you-tee-f: if you are using ubuntu we highly advise you avoid rpm
[20:34] <auronandace> !rpm | you-tee-f
[20:34] <leon6238> can anyone help me?
[20:35] <you-tee-f> ok
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: that's grand coz timezone is controlled elsewhere: try update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US                         then restart
[20:35] <you-tee-f> so rpm IN THE trash
[20:35] <leon6238> hi
[20:35] <you-tee-f> what a waste
[20:35] <leon6238> can you help me please?
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: try: update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US
[20:35] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[20:35] <Psil0Cybin> anything i can perhaps do
[20:35] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[20:36] <bekks> !anyone | leon6238
[20:36] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: done, brb
[20:36] <mythri> you-tee-f, it the package you want only in rpm?
[20:37] <jp> Installed packages have unmet dependancies ---> any suggestions?? http://pastebin.com/FwZGygQT
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: its the powervr module thats causing you the trouble. you could try blacklisting it and seeing if you can stick with vesa (powervr suuuuucks )
[20:38] <you-tee-f> mythri no fine
[20:38] <Psil0Cybin> how do i  blacklist it?
[20:38] <Psil0Cybin> in the one time menu so i can try it out?
[20:38] <Psil0Cybin> really powervr? module?? i thought it was the graphics
[20:38] <Psil0Cybin> i was trying nomodeset and other commands
[20:39] <you-tee-f> i need to uninstall jdk6 from my distribution, what the most effective and safe way to do that ?
[20:39] <daftykins> you-tee-f: apt-get remove oracle-jdk*
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: can you pastebin the output of lsmod
[20:40] <auronandace> you-tee-f: depends how you installed it
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: powervr is your graphics
[20:40] <trism> jp: what is the output of: apt-cache policy mysql-server-core-5.5
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: how would i blacklist powervr , and also after i reinstalled the graphic drivers via addition drivers i was unable to boot into my other kernel that i was using as my fallback
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> so i had to keep rebooting till i could get into this kernel
[20:41] <auronandace> !blacklist | Psil0Cybin
[20:41] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/wqkC3CVB
 no luck :/
[20:41] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/wqkC3CVB
[20:41] <Psil0Cybin> okay would a blacklist cause more problems?
[20:41] <Psil0Cybin> i would edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf and add blacklist powervr ?
[20:42] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/default/locale
[20:42] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: do u think i should try blacklisting it
[20:43] <Psil0Cybin> and restarting?
[20:43] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: yes if we can figure out what module its loading
[20:44] <Psil0Cybin> oh
 http://pastebin.com/e56WkUkM
[20:44] <Psil0Cybin> i thought it was powervr
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> kk hitsujiTMO so let me know what i can do to diagnose it later.
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you can try blacklisting cedarview_gfx      you can always remove the blacklist if it doesn't work
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> i will try that now
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> that should allow you to go to vesa driver
[20:45] <jp> trism: I updated the pastebin http://pastebin.com/FgMVmmmA
[20:46] <jp> trism: and thanks for the response was thinking I was SOL today ;)
[20:46] <Psil0Cybin> so hitsujiTMO i would type
[20:46] <Psil0Cybin> blacklist cedarview_gfx
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> jp you using a mysql ppa?
[20:46] <Psil0Cybin> inside /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: yes
[20:46] <mythri> Danato, I think you'll need to edit your locale file and change all those items to english
[20:46] <Psil0Cybin> kk restarting now
[20:46] <Psil0Cybin> ill try it
[20:47] <trism> jp: that looks fine so the problem must be with mysql-server-5.5, what about: apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.5;
[20:47] <jp> hitsujiTMO, not sure what PPA is.
[20:47] <jp> Trism: checking that now
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> jp: did you add any other repos to your apt sources?
[20:49] <jp> trism: http://pastebin.com/54DgsMhL
[20:49] <Kript> hi
[20:49] <Kript>  php extension enabled for the file to execute in http post method ??
[20:50] <jp> hitsuciTMO: how do I check? I had to use another repo for something a while back but thought I removed it.
 i changed all the zn_CN to en_US. will that help?
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> jp: can you pastebin the output of /etc/apt/sources.list       and can you pastebin the result of: ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:51] <mythri> maybe
[20:51] <Danato> doing an update and see if anything changes
[20:51] <mythri> Danato, only one way to tell, reboot
[20:51] <Danato> ah right
[20:52] <Danato> brb again
[20:52] <daftykins> Kript: that's not a question
[20:52] <jp> jp@jpvault:~$ sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:52] <jp> [sudo] password for jp:
[20:52] <jp> sudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[20:53] <Kript> hmm
[20:53] <bekks> jp:  /etc/apt/sources.list is a file, not a command.
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> jp  because there is no command in that line, only a path
[20:53] <jp> doh sorry
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> jp  try   less [that path]
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> jp: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
 the chinese is gone :P thanks
[20:55] <mythri> all is well
[20:55] <trism> jp: the dpkg -i might work if you actually had the deb, but it doesn't seem to be there, might try to: apt-get download mysql-server-5.5; then sudo dpkg -i the deb in the current directory
[20:55] <trism> jp: otherwise you might end up having to remove mysql-server-core-5.5 and reinstall the lot
[20:55] <jp> http://pastebin.com/5udR4dGR sources.list and la
[20:55] <jp> ls*
[20:56] <AlexPortable> hi?
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> jp: i wonder if plexmediaserver is using mysql and had updated it early
[20:57] <auronandace> AlexPortable: you don't sound to sure
[20:57] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: did not work!!
[20:57] <Psil0Cybin> booted right into low graphic settings
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: :(
[20:57] <Psil0Cybin> caused problems
[20:57] <Psil0Cybin> i am so out of ideas :(
[20:57] <Psil0Cybin> all i can do is retart my laptop 35 times
[20:58] <Psil0Cybin> till it boots in :S
[20:58] <AlexPortable> auronandace: no, nobody can help me with my problem :(
[20:58] <Psil0Cybin> what the heckkk
[20:58] <AlexPortable> 21:21 <AlexPortable> Hi, I have Winows 7 and Linux (Ubuntu or Mint I don't recall) installed on my laptop. Only Windows 7 was able to boot. I used a live-usb to repair grub, but now none boot. I get:
[20:58] <AlexPortable> 21:21 <AlexPortable> error: out of disk
[20:58] <AlexPortable> 21:21 <AlexPortable> grub> 000000
[20:58] <tripelb> 12.04 gnome-- I pluggeed in a rebcam with mic and I only want to see if I can use the mic. I tried sound recorder but it doesnt have anything that shows the mic input, if it is happening or not. what do I use? (This mic and webcam has worked before in Ubuntu 10.)
[20:58] <mythri> Psil0Cybin, what was your exact problem again?
[20:58] <Psil0Cybin> mythri: i upgraded my kernel i got a blackscreen i tried every boot parameter it did not work
[20:58] <Psil0Cybin> i have to restart my laptop 35 times
[20:59] <Psil0Cybin> to finally get a GUI
[20:59] <Psil0Cybin> once
[20:59] <Psil0Cybin> and if i reboot again i get a blackscreen after the grub and splash
[20:59] <Psil0Cybin> i tried nomodeset
[20:59] <Psil0Cybin> i tried vesafb.nonsense=1
[20:59] <hitsujiTMO> mythri: his powervr graphics driver is crashing on most boots
[20:59] <mythri> Psil0Cybin, is this a laptop?
[20:59] <jp> hitsujiTMO: Maybe it did, but now I can't do any updates bacause of the missing D. I know Plx uses the sql backend a lot
[21:00] <Psil0Cybin> yes mythri
[21:00] <Psil0Cybin> a laptop its an acer aspire one d270-1628
[21:00] <hitsujiTMO> jp. you can wget the debs and install manually with dpkg -i
[21:00] <mythri> Psil0Cybin, would there happen to be settings in it's bios about whether the default display in the builtin screen or an external monitor?
[21:01] <Psil0Cybin> to be honest i dont think so slash have no idea
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> jp: whats the output of: uname -a
[21:01] <Psil0Cybin> i never had to do anything like this usually
[21:01] <Psil0Cybin> kernel updates happen perfectly
[21:01] <Psil0Cybin> but this one caused this issue so i am so confused, but when i tried reinstalling additional drivers i could not get into my stable kernel from befopre
[21:01] <jp> hitsujiTMO: Whats dif between wget and this "apt-get download mysql-server-5.5; then sudo dpkg -i the deb in the current directory"
[21:01] <Psil0Cybin> it keeps booting in low graphic settings
[21:01] <jp> ?
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: its that driver, its written for the 3.1 kernel and a very old version of xorg. hence the crashes
[21:01] <jp> Linux jpvault 3.2.0-54-generic #82-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 20:08:42 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:01] <jp> jp@jpvault:~$
[21:02] <trism> jp: no difference, assuming to wget the same deb
[21:02] <jp> trism: thanks
[21:02] <Psil0Cybin> ugh hitsujiTMO so what can i do :S:S is my laptop like not supported
[21:02] <Psil0Cybin> anymore?!
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> jp apt-get figures out what you need and downloads it for you.
[21:02] <prasselpikachu> hi
[21:02] <jp> seems to be a consensus
[21:02] <prasselpikachu> little (big) question
[21:02] <Psil0Cybin> like hitsujiTMO this is sooo sad i shuld have never updated
[21:02] <Psil0Cybin> ugh
[21:02] <Psil0Cybin> i wish i knew this
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: it was never really supported. they released 1 driver and left it at that. powervr sucks
[21:03] <prasselpikachu> i've got ubuntu 13.10
[21:03] <Psil0Cybin> wow
[21:03] <prasselpikachu> i stopped using unity and use fluxbox now
[21:03] <Psil0Cybin> so theres nothing i can do hitsujiTMO
[21:03] <Psil0Cybin> right
[21:03] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[21:03] <tripelb> Did I state this well? How do I see if this mic works. (It is a Logitech USB webcam that worked under 10.04)
[21:03] <Psil0Cybin> format?
[21:03] <prasselpikachu> but i still use lightdm
[21:03] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:03] <auronandace> !enter | prasselpikachu
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you could try install another kernel from mainline
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> jp: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.5/mysql-server-5.5_5.5.34-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_amd64.deb
[21:04] <prasselpikachu> oops, sorry, im used to this typing rythm
[21:04] <Psil0Cybin> ugh thats it right hitsujiTMO i cannot fix anything my self?
[21:04] <Psil0Cybin> i have to get another kernel?
[21:04] <dowshool> laterguys
[21:04] <Psil0Cybin> isnt it bad to also use outdated kernels?
[21:05] <prasselpikachu> so, i use fluxbox. i launch it with the standard lightdm. now i want to start a second fluxbox an a different tty. how can i achieve that
[21:05] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you can try future kernels too. aparently its kinda works ok with 3.5 aswell
[21:05] <jp> hitsujiTMO, got it, how do I dpkg?
[21:05] <Psil0Cybin> so which kernel can i try becasue the kernel i was using as a fallback that always worked DOES not work anymore after i tried to reinstall my graphic drivers
[21:05] <Psil0Cybin> it keeps booting in low graphic mode
[21:05] <Psil0Cybin> so now i have no workable kernel
[21:06] <Psil0Cybin> at the moment
[21:06] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[21:06] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:06] <auronandace> prasselpikachu: you don't, you can only have one xorg instance running at a time
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> jp: sudo dpkg -i mysql-server-5.5_5.5.34-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_amd64.deb
[21:07] <jp> ?
[21:07] <jp> trying thanks
[21:07] <prasselpikachu> auronandace: really? at ##linux they said it's possible but that i should go here for that. also using multiple screens works: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multihead but now i want it on a single display, being able to switch between multiple screens
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> jp: after that run: sudo apt-get -f install               and pastebin the output
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> prasselpikachu: multiple screens does not envolve multiple instances of xserver
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> prasselpikachu  they said to come, because they don't know how to do it, i.e.: it's not possible
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> tom come here*
[21:09] <jp> jp@jpvault:~$ wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.5/mysql-server-5.5_5.5.34-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_amd64.deb
[21:09] <jp> --2013-11-11 15:05:03--  http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.5/mysql-server-5.5_5.5.34-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_amd64.deb
[21:09] <jp> Resolving security.ubuntu.com (security.ubuntu.com)... 91.189.92.201, 91.189.92.202, 91.189.91.13, ...
[21:09] <jp> Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (security.ubuntu.com)|91.189.92.201|:80... connected.
[21:09] <jp> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
[21:09] <FloodBot1> jp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:09] <jp> Length: 8826992 (8.4M) [application/x-debian-package]
[21:09] <prasselpikachu> hitsujiTMO: yeah, so is that possible somehow?
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> prasselpikachu: not multiple instances of fluxbox tho. you can have mutiple screens with a single instance of fluck box. just plug in another monitor
[21:10] <prasselpikachu> but  in ##linux someone told me i could use "startx -- :1 vt8" to launch a second x session on terminal 8
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> s/fluck box/fluxbox
[21:10] <bgardner> Psil0Cybin: What driver did you install for that netbook?
[21:11] <jp> http://pastebin.com/D8PE0ptx
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> prasselpikachu  and did you try that?
[21:11] <prasselpikachu> yep
[21:11] <jp> hitsujiTMO: you see this or am I still muted http://pastebin.com/D8PE0ptx
[21:11] <trism> jp: seems to have done the trick
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> prasselpikachu  and did it work?
[21:11] <hitsujiTMO> prasselpikachu: why do you want a second x session>
[21:11] <prasselpikachu> nope
[21:11] <SupaYoshi> does anyone here have some experience installing FOG??? Im getting a blank page whatever I do, and it might be because of my apache setup
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> prasselpikachu  so it doesnt work, period
[21:11] <SupaYoshi> but Im not sure...
[21:12] <prasselpikachu> _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed
[21:12] <prasselpikachu> _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
[21:12] <gianfry> proot...
[21:12] <Psil0Cybin> cedarview bgardner
[21:12] <Psil0Cybin> also the default INTEL Driver
[21:12] <tripelb> How do I test my microphone to see if it works? when I started soundrecorder there was nothing to show me what sound level comes from the mic.
[21:12] <prasselpikachu> after that they asked me to try "startx -- -nolisten tcp :1 vt8"
[21:12] <prasselpikachu> didnt work either
[21:13] <jp> trism: thanks
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> prasselpikachu  because two times X is ont the same as two different screens
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> not*
[21:13] <prasselpikachu> hm
[21:14] <prasselpikachu> when you plug in a second monitor, isnt the current screen just enlarged to include the new display? thats how i understand it
[21:15] <bgardner> Psil0Cybin: Just looking at my Aspire D270-1375 to see if I could help you at all, but I never installed anything beyond the standard stuff Xubuntu provided out-of-the-box.
[21:15] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[21:15] <Psil0Cybin> same here bgardner
[21:15] <bgardner> Psil0Cybin: No idea how different this machine is than yours, so not sure if that helps you.  I can share any part of my config if it would, however.
[21:15] <Psil0Cybin> i have cxubuntu on my acer and i upgraded
[21:15] <Psil0Cybin> using dist-upgrade
[21:16] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:16] <Psil0Cybin> to the new kernel 3.2.0-56-generic-pae
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> prasselpikachu  no, you have "monitor" in the system settings, to handle the screen resolution og both screens
[21:16] <Psil0Cybin> and thats when my issues started bgardner
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> of*
[21:16] <hitsujiTMO> prasselpikachu: not exactly. they still have different spaces.     prasselpikachu can you explain exactly why you think you need 2 instances of xserver/fluxbox running?
[21:16] <IdleOne> Psil0Cybin: Please join me in #ubuntu-ops
[21:17] <bgardner> Psil0Cybin: What Xubuntu release are you running?
[21:17] <jp> hitsujiTMO: Thanks running all updates now. you guys are awesome. I have no idea how I would figure this stuff out without #ubuntu
[21:17] <Calinou> bgardner: probably 12.04
[21:17] <Calinou> 3.2 kernel
[21:17] <Calinou> 3.2 = 12.04, 3.5 = 12.10, 3.8 = 13.04, 3.11 = 13.10 ;)
[21:18] <Ari-Yang> Akaigo-Arc 3.12.0-031200-generic x86_64 Description: Ubuntu 12.10 Codename: quantal
[21:18]  * Ari-Yang runs
[21:18] <bgardner> Psil0Cybin: Scratch that, I'll let idleone assist you.  Good luck!
[21:18] <prasselpikachu> hitsujiTMO: i want to have a program running in fullscreen, and also i want to have a completely seperate workspace for other stuff. and i want to switch between them at the press of some buttons
[21:18] <Calinou> Ari-Yang: official kernels...
[21:18] <bgardner> Calinou: Handy reference, thanks!1
[21:18] <Calinou> bgardner: people can use their own kernels though so this is not 100% true ;)
[21:18] <Ari-Yang> Calinou: this is official, got it from ubuntu's kernel ppa :X
[21:18] <Ari-Yang> official and stable
[21:18] <Calinou> PPAs aren't supported
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> prasselpikachu: a program in fullscreen will only be fullscreen in one monitor
[21:19] <Ari-Yang> :B;
[21:19] <prasselpikachu> ofc
[21:19] <prasselpikachu> but i only have a single monitor, thats the whole point
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> prasselpikachu: so you want to simulate a kvm on a single machine?
[21:20] <IdleOne> Psil0Cybin: you should be good now.
[21:20] <prasselpikachu> sort of, yeah
[21:20] <prasselpikachu> basically just different displays (now i got it right) on different vt's
[21:20] <auronandace> prasselpikachu: can't you just use another workspace? why the need to run a whole new instance of xorg and fluxbox?
[21:21] <prasselpikachu> I don't know, I'd just love to do that
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> i no longer get what prasselpikachu wants
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> prasselpikachu: for what you're asking, most desktop environments have multiple desktops, and you can switch between them. one desktop has 1 set of applications, another has another set
[21:21] <_3o3_> hello.. anyone here manage to transfer music to an iphone that uses ios 7?
[21:21] <prasselpikachu> i know
[21:22] <maheanuu> GoodAfternoon/Evening/Morning to all, I would like to check my system drive as I believe that it is set read only as I cannot store any files in the video folder and get an error message when I try to download anything or upgrade
[21:22] <hitsujiTMO> prasselpikachu: other than that, you would have to use a virtual machine
[21:22] <prasselpikachu> hm :/
[21:22] <prasselpikachu> well ok
[21:22] <prasselpikachu> i'll do it with workspaces
[21:22] <wedgeV> i have those ufw rules, but i can still access port 53 from non 10.0.0.0/16 http://pastie.org/private/myeoqbpgnkd8wxxp9e2zcg
[21:22] <prasselpikachu> bai ;)
[21:22] <gasull> Hi. My keyboard application shortcuts for XFCE don't work.  I think I'm experiencing this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/1055810  How can I fix it?
[21:22] <hitsujiTMO> maheanuu: can you boot a live cd/usb please.
[21:23] <Guest52690> ubuntu 12.04 ...  htop shows multiple copies of various programs running... ps -ef shows only 1 copy.  bug in htop?
[21:23] <nasa01> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu on a zbox I just received.  I, of course, am having some issues.  The most pressing is that I can't boot the resultant install -- I get a kernel panic, with "no init found" as an error
[21:23] <nasa01> right after the grub screen.  Anyone know anything about this?
[21:23] <maheanuu> hitsujiTMO, I am not sure I have a 12.04 LTS CD here I can try to boot on it
[21:24] <nasa01> BTW: I have tried this with both 12 & 13 version of Ubuntu
[21:24] <hitsujiTMO> maheanuu: its needed as you need to install some tools to check. you can also install a irc lcient on the live distro to come back here
[21:24] <acolite> I posted a topic with a hardware question in Ubuntuforums 1 week ago and it received no responses.
[21:25] <acolite> Is it considered okay to bump it?
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> acolite, There a 24 bump is acceptable.
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> hr*
[21:25] <auronandace> !forums | acolite
[21:26] <Guest52690> acolite:  In addition to what's been mentioned, you could also try ##hardware they're pretty good with hardware issues
[21:26] <attila> hi
[21:26] <hitsujiTMO> wedgeV: iirc port 53 is prob left open by default in ufw (certain standard ports are)
[21:27] <Guest52690> hey... how'd I turn into a guest?  :/
[21:27] <attila> no problem :)
[21:27] <darkangel> Ubuntu 14.04 is f***ing alsome
[21:27] <acolite> In addition, I am having this error whenever I attempt to install any package: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6401950/
[21:27] <auronandace> Guest52690: you were trying to use a nick that was already registered
[21:27] <acolite> Anyone got advice on how to solve this?
[21:28] <auronandace> Guest52690: more info in #freenode
[21:28] <hitsujiTMO> wedgeV: can you pastebin the output of: sudo ufw status verbose
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | darkangel #ubuntu+1 for that
[21:29] <attila> so I woluld like to install mate dektop for my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. So but the command is not correct in some webpage. can you help me?
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> darkangel, wrong channel and swearing is not allowed
[21:29] <tripelb> Cheese doesnt seem to see my webcam (everything is greyed out) but slpci sees it.
[21:29] <auronandace> attila: it isn't supported here
[21:29] <wedgeV> hitsujiTMO: http://pastie.org/8472993
[21:29] <tripelb> Cheese doesnt seem to see my webcam (everything is greyed out) but lspci sees it. Bus 003 Device 009: ID 046d:08dd Logitech, Inc. QuickCam for Notebooks)
[21:29] <dfsdfdsf> Hello! Im looking for ppl that can code in java, does someone know if theres a java channel here on freenode? :)
[21:29] <darkangel> Does any 1 know a way to Compress a Ext4 Hard drive without using 7zip or something like that?
[21:29] <wedgeV> (just changed it to deny from everywhere for testing, still doesn't block it)
[21:29] <attila> and cinnamon?
[21:30] <auronandace> attila: cinnamon is in the repos
[21:30] <acolite> When I attempt to install any packages, I get this string of broken dependencies. What should I do? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6401950/
[21:30] <xstefen> juudas, did u try [pound]java ?
[21:30] <xangua> auronandace: is not in precise
[21:30] <k1l_> !alis | juudas
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> attila, Neither are supported here for 12.04, cinnamon appears in the 13.04 install however
[21:30] <tripelb> dfsdfdsf, Here's a hint to help you again and again with this kind of thing. There is a channel called #freenode that exists for these kinda stuffs. They've been great to me. (eg ##hardware)
[21:31] <auronandace> xangua: wasn't aware attila was talking about precise
[21:31] <wedgeV> hitsujiTMO: i can just use iptables directly but i figured ufw might save the rules between boots?
[21:31] <attila> 12.04 LTS
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> attila, If you want cinnamon it is in the ubuntu repos starting at 13.04
[21:32] <np8> Hi! I just updated from Ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10, and during the upgrade, I got a error message, which said that "Could not install tex-common .... Please consider submitting a bug report about it". I dont have any questions about it, just wanted to give a report of it, if it is an issue of consideration.
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> wedgeV: hmm, i see. i guess that might be a bug, but i'm not a ufw expert. I also default deny and explicitly allow.
[21:32] <np8> Here's a picture of the message, too: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f9bws5lmkw720gv/ubuntu-13.10-update-error-tex-common.png
[21:33] <attila> pff oh no! :( I am so very crying.
[21:33] <wedgeV> hitsujiTMO: i never used ufw, not really using ubuntu much, i just wanted to have persistent rules between boots :)
[21:33] <tripelb> Cheese doesnt seem to see my webcam (everything is greyed out) but lspci sees it. Bus 003 Device 009: ID 046d:08dd Logitech, Inc. QuickCam for Notebooks) -- This webcam worked with 10.04
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> attila  don't cry, it's only a DE
[21:34] <attila> Ok! See you latter and God bless you! :)
[21:34] <attila> bye bye
[21:35] <apb1963> attila wilee-nilee : I started a new channel for cinnamon on  ubuntu. ##cinnabuntu
[21:36] <apb1963> Since it's not supported here.
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> apb1963, This done through freenode?
[21:36] <apb1963> wilee-nilee: I could have, but I didn't.
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> darkangel: ext4 doesn not support compression
[21:37] <darkangel> Lovely
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> apb1963, cinnamon is supported in the releases it was added to the repos for.
[21:37] <apb1963> I was able to install it on 12.04... can't remember if I did it from a repo or not
[21:37] <cuddylier> How do I stop a process that just won't stop apart from kill -9?
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> !find cinnamon precise
[21:38] <k1l_> cinnamon is in the official ubuntu repos since 13.04
[21:38] <reisio> cuddylier: wait, or reboot
[21:38] <hitsujiTMO> darkangel: btrfs does support compression but it's not stable yet
[21:38] <k1l_> apb1963: you would have needed a PPA for that in 12.04
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> apb1963  you didnt
[21:38] <darkangel> whats btrfs?
[21:38] <apb1963> let me see if I can find it in my notes as to what I did.
[21:38] <nasa01> BTW2: I as tried "sudo update-initramfs -u" with no luck
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> darkangel  it stands for 'better file system', it's not yet stable, IIRC
[21:39] <reisio> darkangel: it's the GPL-compatible alternative to zfs
[21:39] <auronandace> darkangel: a linux file system designed to rival zfs
[21:39] <reisio> zfs being "the rage"
[21:39] <reisio> but unfortunately licensed for failure
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> like btrfs
[21:39] <cuddylier> reisio Anything apart from rebooting?
[21:40] <darkangel> cool
[21:40] <reisio> cuddylier: waiting, as I said
[21:40]  * wilee-nilee start a new channel #moronbuntu
[21:41] <medajke> Hi. I Got a big problem
[21:41] <cuddylier> reisio After hours it hasn't, apart from that?
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> medajke  let's hear it
[21:41] <medajke> I installed one distr... which based on ubuntu 10.04
[21:41] <reisio> cuddylier: not aware of anything apart from those, but there is probably some low level black magic that only a few people know of
[21:41] <Blaster> hey I am trying to set a static IP for eth1, but can't find where it's configured.  There's only a couple lines in my interfaces file...  https://gist.github.com/redstar504/3b38261f640bcc1923d4
[21:41] <POVaddct> cuddylier: kill PID (sends SIGTERM). if that doesn't help, kill -9 PID (sends SIGKILL).
[21:41] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys what can i do if the new kernel is causing problems for me, to help create a fix later on for these kind of issues (blackscreens after kernel upgrades?) I really want to be proactive about my problem and fix it or do something about it instead of resorting to using an outdated kernel in order to get into my productive desktop
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> medajke  what distro would that be? not everything is supported here
[21:42] <cuddylier> POVaddct Already tried kill -9 and kill
[21:42] <apb1963> k1l_: MonkeyDust wilee-nilee : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable
[21:42] <auronandace> medajke: not supported here
[21:42] <cuddylier> It recreates itself with a new PID
[21:42] <medajke> and right now - can make any load flash with ubuntu 12.04
[21:42] <cuddylier> It's a program called 'redir'
[21:42] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: you can diff the configs
[21:42] <k1l_> apb1963: that is a PPA. not a official ubuntu repo
[21:42] <cuddylier> But no one seems to have heard of it yet it's so useful
[21:42] <POVaddct> cuddylier: then you have to find out which process restarts it
[21:42] <apb1963> k1l_: Right
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> cuddylier  then promote it on a blog or so
[21:42] <bekks> cuddylier: What does thazt program do?
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> cuddylier  or write a review
[21:42] <cuddylier> It redirects traffic from an IP on the server box to a defination IP on another
[21:43] <medajke> the name is Iskra 10.04
[21:43] <medajke> based on ubuntu 10.04
[21:43] <Psil0Cybin> reisio: what would diff the configs do? I have attempted to use peramitors such as nomodeset or vesafb.nonsense=1, it seems like every fix for other people does not typically work for me i have tried almost everything and have spent hours on here annoying people about this issue with no result or fix..that is perminant
[21:43] <cuddylier> If you have e.g. a DDOS protected IP on a box you can create a remote DDOS protected TCP proxy by typing one command
[21:43] <medajke> can not upgrade to 12.04
[21:43] <POVaddct> cuddylier: find out the parent process of redir (use "ps axf" for example)
[21:43] <cuddylier> A lot of processes
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> medajke  ask the iskra people how to do it, maybe it's no longer maintained
[21:44] <cuddylier> I have other redir processes that I don't really want to kill hmm
[21:44] <Psil0Cybin> reisio: the only thing i can do is restart 100 times until one time it boots into the GUI or use an outdated kernel
[21:44] <cuddylier> There is loads of processes for this IP
[21:44] <k1l_> medajke: 10.04 is out of support for desktop version anyway. and other ubuntu-based distros cant be supported in here. please ask the guys from iskra
[21:44] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: it'd tell you how the working and non-working kernels differ
[21:44] <medajke> nobody can not help me there..
[21:44] <POVaddct> cuddylier: ps axf shows all processes. it also shows which process is a child process of another (tree view)
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> medajke  neither can we, try a supported distro
[21:44] <cuddylier> POVaddct It's too long for me SSH window lol
[21:45] <medajke> ok
[21:45] <POVaddct> cuddylier: ps axf | less
[21:45] <Psil0Cybin> well the non working kernel is having problem with my driver, its a lazy graphic driver because its an acer aspire one so sometimes it boots sometimes i get a blackscreen sometimes i will get a terminal screen instead of the GUI
[21:45] <POVaddct> cuddylier: learn shell basics
[21:45] <cuddylier> I'll expand it
[21:45] <Shirakawasuna> I'm having trouble attempting to install ubuntu on a lenovo ideapad. I've tried both 12.04 and 13.10 to no avail. Symptoms: I boot to the USB drive, it loads grub. Grub is corrupted - it is squished to just the top 1/4 of the screen and impossible to read. I select the first option, screen turns black, and no inputs do anything (including attempting to change VTs). Any ideas?
[21:46] <Psil0Cybin> reisio: well the non working kernel is having problem with my driver, its a lazy graphic driver because its an acer aspire one so sometimes it boots sometimes i get a blackscreen sometimes i will get a terminal screen instead of the GUI
[21:46] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: lazy?
[21:46] <Shirakawasuna> this is with UEFI enabled (no legacy) and all fastboot/quickboot/whatever disabled
[21:46] <bekks> reisio: it sits around, refuses to work hard ;)
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, The iso on a usb has no grub.
[21:46] <reisio> bekks: heh
[21:47] <Shirakawasuna> wilee-nilee: It has something like that
[21:47] <Psil0Cybin> reisio: well something is off because it works sometimes, but other times it does not work...i dont know how else to describe it othe rthen tis actually a gamble every time i turn on my computer which bothers me because i want my computer to be stable when it comes to booting up an O.S
[21:47] <dylan> Right now I have Windows 7 and eOS installed alongside each other.  I want to replace eOS with Ubuntu 13.10.  I'm currently booted into the live cd.  What do I need to do?
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Shirakawasuna
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO> wilee-nilee: it does. the first menu is grub
[21:47] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: alright, well
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> dylan  use gparted to delete the eos partition, then install ubuntu on it
[21:48] <Shirakawasuna> wilee-nilee: I can't even read grub enough to add a nomodeset line
[21:48] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: see if upstart has an 'interactive' boot
[21:48] <Shirakawasuna> I could try blind, but who knows if I typed it right
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> hitsujiTMO, with a iso not the grub menu as in the install.
[21:48] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: you can get an idea of the order of things, and then run experiments on the timing
[21:48] <dylan> MonkeyDust: What do I do about grub?
[21:48] <Psil0Cybin> hmm
[21:48] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: and if need be script it so it never fails due to race conditions
[21:48] <Psil0Cybin> reisio: i will try and take a look @ that
[21:48] <maheanuu> hitsujiTMO, I can boot and load fine using Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS, everything ran fine, no error messages at all
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> dylan  meaning?
[21:48] <Psil0Cybin> i will need to spend time and figure this out but it sure is a noodle scratcher
[21:48] <dylan> Like, will grub get screwed up?
[21:48] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: or just figure out what X requires and then make the script for starting it more strict in its checks
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> maheanuu: as in the live cd?
[21:48] <Psil0Cybin> is it thaaaaat bad to use an out dated kernel ? by one version?
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> dylan  not sure, guess not
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> dylan  what's eos anyway?
[21:49] <dylan> MonkeyDust: The menu that appears on boot, where you select theos, will that get screwed up?  Will the option to boot ubuntu be there?  Do I have to delete the eOS entry?
[21:49] <HelloWorld321> I'm trying to get synergys to launch on startup.  From the command line I use
[21:49] <dylan> MonkeyDust: Elementary OS
[21:49] <HelloWorld321> usr/bin/synergys --daemon --no-tray --debug NOTE --name Gremlin --crypto-pass xxxx --config ~/.quicksynergy/synergy.conf --address :24800
[21:49] <HelloWorld321> which works fine from the command line, but if I put into the "greeter-setup-script=" at /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf, as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto#Autostart_Synergy_before_logging_in_.28LightDM.29 then when I boot up, the mouse isn't shared, and synergys is not in the process list (ps, pgrep).  So my question is:
[21:49] <FloodBot1> HelloWorld321: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:49] <HelloWorld321> Whats the proper way to get synergys to launch on login?
[21:49] <Psil0Cybin> reisio: is it bad to use an outdated kernel by one version if needed
[21:49] <Psil0Cybin> till a fix is made?
[21:50] <maheanuu> Yes, one that I downloaded several months ago, It came up fine with no errors
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, If this is the iso install and the install, try and test memory gui read the link you don't do a gron edit there it is a f key.
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> dylan  not sure, if grub gets corrupted, you can come here for help or assistance
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> grub*
[21:50] <dylan> uhhhh
[21:50] <dylan> how can I come here if I can't boot my pc
[21:50] <Shirakawasuna> wilee-nilee: I don't understand what you mean
[21:50] <dylan> Well, I could boot live CD again..
[21:50] <dylan> But I would rather get it right first time
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, Read the nomodeset link and you will.
[21:51] <np8> Dos anyone know how i can find out, that will a program with  "grayed out" window start responding ever, or is that program crashed? I have a ubuntu 13.04 -> 13.10 update running, and at the 20% mark it just jammed and "grayed out". Is it even safe to shut down the computer?
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> dylan  i don't know if grub would get corrupted, never tried
[21:51] <Shirakawasuna> wilee-nilee: I know what nomodeset does
[21:52] <maheanuu> hitsujiTMO, sorry didn't add your name before the last post, I downloaded that several months ago and had it set aside It is the live disk and I am NOT running windows on this laptop
[21:52] <Shirakawasuna> wilee-nilee: I just don't know what you're saying
[21:52] <hitsujiTMO> maheanuu: cool. open the terminal and: sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit
[21:52] <HelloWorld321> Trying to get synergys to launch on startup.  http://pastebin.com/13bxd06T
[21:52] <barth> hello
[21:53] <barth> anybody here?
[21:53] <SuperLag> when it comes to the nvidia drivers... what's the difference between nvidia-319 and nvidia-319-updates?
[21:53] <maheanuu> hitsujiTMO, I am now back on my normal 12.04 and not the live disk....
[21:53] <dylan> Can anyone else verify what MonkeyDust is saying?  If I delete my current eOS partition, and install ubuntu over it, will the grub menu get messed up?
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, there is a different way to run it from a install cd/usb that gthe grub menu. Did you install and grub was put in the usb's mbr by accident, your description is a confusing, unless you did a full install on the usb or the grub was put in it's mbr or you have have on the usb to multiboot.
[21:54] <bekks> dylan: your eos grub will be messed up, yes.
[21:54] <nasa01> So is the "no init found" error pretty uncommon?
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> maheanuu: can you boot to the live disk. stay on the live disk. we test the drive from there. just install xchat on the live disk so you can come back here
[21:54] <dylan> bekks: How do I fix it?
[21:54] <Shirakawasuna> wilee-nilee: I did not install anything to the mbr. Like I said, I booted to a usb stick.
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> dylan  you should ad, that eOS means Elementary OS
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> add
[21:54] <bekks> !grub2 > dylan
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, to a usb stick?
[21:55] <Corvette> Hey guys, does anyone here have a Chromebook 11?
[21:55] <Shirakawasuna> wilee-nilee: yes
[21:55] <Corvette> I'm asking to discuss its Ubuntu functionality
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, Do you mean you booted a usb stick?
[21:55] <Shirakawasuna> wilee-nilee: yes...
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> !anyone | Corvette
[21:56] <tripelb> Let me try another tack. ow do I see if I have gspca already? (webcam is supposed to "just work" but I do believe I had to run something back in 10.04)
[21:56] <barth> When I try to install ubuntu 12.04 - net install after selecting proxy I'm getting empty screen ... :/ what to do with it? All of the earlier steps are fine.
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, and do you see a try ubuntu, install, or a test for the memory?
[21:57] <hitsujiTMO> HelloWorld321: have you tried adding it to startup applications?
[21:57] <Shirakawasuna> wilee-nilee: the screen is corrupted. I select the first option, whatever it is. It's either 'try without installing' or 'install'.
[21:57] <maheanuu> hitsujiTMO, Ok going back to live disk and will do the download there
[21:57] <barth> just blank screen with line on the bottom. I can write there :/
[21:57] <HelloWorld321> hitsujiTMO: tx, yes.  That was the old way.  Same thing.  The mouse isn't shared, and synergys isn't in the ps list
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> HelloWorld321: sounds like its crashing then . have yo checked the logs
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> HelloWorld321  it's synergy, not synergys
[21:58] <shafire> hi, do you use only apt-get as package manager at the console, or?
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, In the gui is an option addressed in that link for running a nomodeset option it is not a grub edit. I can't say this is the answer, but it has taken a long time just to get here for you to realize "maybe the link can help"
[21:59] <Trudko> Guys do I need to protect my self from key loggers while being on Ubuntu?
[21:59] <auronandace> !apt | shafire
[21:59] <Shirakawasuna> shafire: Not sure what you mean. apt-get is a command line application, so you have to use a console to use it.
[21:59] <Shirakawasuna> shafire: There are other ways to install or remove packages, however.
[21:59] <shafire> Shirakawasuna: I mean that, is aptitude deprecated?
[21:59] <Corvette> Has anyone bought a Chromebook 11 and gotten Ubuntu with Unity to install and run WELL?
[22:00] <HelloWorld321> hitsujiTMO: yes.  I didn't see anything in /var/log/systlog ... let me try again.  It's /var/log/syslog?  and I'll have to reboot to see what it logs on the next boot?
[22:00] <auronandace> shafire: aptitude is discouraged
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> HelloWorld321: does synergy have its own log?
[22:00] <shafire> good, I hated debian/ubuntu for that reason :D
[22:00] <HelloWorld321> hitsujiTMO: try as a greeter-setup-script ?
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> Corvette  better describe your issue, what goes wrong
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, No polling this is support.
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> either should be ok.
[22:01] <Shirakawasuna> wilee-nilee: I think you are confused. The forum post says nothing about entering options with a corrupted screen.
[22:01] <HelloWorld321> hitsujiTMO: not user /var/log
[22:01] <Shirakawasuna> wilee-nilee: Perhaps you should adjust your attitude to be less exasperated with straightforward questions and responses
[22:02] <Shirakawasuna> shafire: In general, you shouldn't need to use aptitude
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> HelloWorld321: according to the wiki it has logs but only references the windows version
[22:02] <Shirakawasuna> shafire: apt-get, apt-cache, dpkg-query, and dpkg should offer everything you need to maintain your packages, if you choose to maintain them from the command line.
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, If it is a cost issue you can get computer that will easily run ubuntu at or around the same price.
[22:02] <Shirakawasuna> shafire: and most of the time you'll only use apt-get and apt-cache
[22:03] <HelloWorld321> Tx hitsujiTMO.  Ah, I told you something wrong.  When I try to launch it as a startup application, it isn't in the process list, and isn't running; when I try to launch it as a greeter-setup-script, I can't load lightdm (but can still use the terminal)
[22:03] <shafire> Shirakawasuna: ok, thank you!
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> HelloWorld321: defo sounds like its crashing then
[22:04] <Shirakawasuna> shafire: np
[22:04] <juken> Hey all, my laptop is connecting to my route at 192.168.1.1 over wlan0. I have a second device connected to eth0 using an Ethernet cable. This device is obtaining a DHCP address from eth0, but I'm having trouble getting the devices to go from: device -> eth0 -> wlan0 -> Internet. Anyone have any suggestions?
[22:04] <Corvette> wilee-nilee She wants something thin / ultrabooky.
[22:04] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: it's not ideal, but if it works it works
[22:04] <Shirakawasuna> Corvette: My understanding is that chromebooks just barely work with ubuntu, *sometimes* and after several hacks
[22:04] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: it's more ideal than a computer that won't boot up :)
[22:05] <HelloWorld321> hitsujiTMO: Okay.  I'll set it up as a greeter-setup-script (with higher debug logging), then re-check the syslog
[22:05] <HelloWorld321> ... this will prolly cause me to disconnect ... brb ...
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> corvette: get an asus x202e, swap in an ssd and bam, its an ultrabook
[22:05] <Shirakawasuna> Corvette: There are other options. There are ultrabook-y ideapads that are not too expensive. Also asus netbooks.
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> Corvette  so you want advice on hardware? this is not the right place to ask
[22:06] <reisio> the chromebooks I've seen are the same price as ordinary x86_64 laptops
[22:06] <Shirakawasuna> Corvette: like the one hitsujiTMO recommended
[22:06] <reisio> they're just a little smaller and less powerful
[22:06] <dmatt> if hardware wifi button does not work, how should I troubleshoot it? hp 8470w
[22:06] <reisio> making the point of buying one quite ... unapparent
[22:07] <Shirakawasuna> dmatt: By troubleshoot do you mean you want to make it work? If necessary, you can achieve the same functionality by selecting the network-manager dropdown and turning off wifi
[22:07] <reisio> dmatt: open up xev and see what the key combination does give you
[22:08]  * nasa01 is downloading "boot-repair-disk" to see if that can help
[22:08] <dmatt> Shirakawasuna: I would like to make it work through thta buttons
[22:08] <reisio> nasa01: help do what?
[22:08] <nasa01> I am having issues with a new ubuntu install
[22:08] <dmatt> reisio: does not return anything in xev
[22:08] <nasa01> specifically, the install won't boot.  I get "no init found" right after grub
[22:09] <Shirakawasuna> dmatt: In general you'll either want to do a hack that routes that keypress to a network-manager-related command (where I think reisio is going with this) or potentially install/enable some vendor-specific kernel modules (for example, thinkpads have this)
[22:09] <nasa01> reisio, that along with a kernel panic
[22:09] <reisio> dmatt: otherwise, search yourmodelnumber site:ubuntuforums.org, or look at linuxlaptop.net
[22:10] <HelloWorld321> I don't see hitsui ... did he logout?
[22:10] <HelloWorld321> Is there a good way to cycle your syslog before running a test?
[22:10] <dmatt> Shirakawasuna: I remember in past I had to edit some file with lot of hp notebook types and that did it, no idea where it was
[22:10] <glycol> juken: did you try making a "shared to others" connection in network-manager?
[22:11] <Shirakawasuna> probably a keymap / layout, dmatt
[22:11] <dmatt> Shirakawasuna: but that was different HP model
[22:12] <juken> glycol: eth0?
[22:12] <Shirakawasuna> dmatt: Newer versions of X generally don't require you to set a specific keymap, it tries to autodetect
[22:12] <Shirakawasuna> but if you think it's failing you can try setting one
[22:12] <Shirakawasuna> dmatt: you can usually do it in the gui somewhere, though I personally use xubuntu almost all the time so I don't remember where it is. I'd start with something about input or keyboard
[22:13] <dmatt> reisio: no good result on ubuntuforums
[22:13] <HelloWorld321> Okay, I found my error in syslog:
[22:13] <HelloWorld321> Nov 11 14:06:23 Gremlin Synergy 1.4.15: FATAL: X display has unexpectedly disconnected
[22:13] <tripelb> 12.04 I keep having internal ubuntu errors must reboot. cheese just "closed unexpectedly. What can I do?
[22:13] <glycol> juken: make sure your "wired" connection is set to "Shared to other computers" in ipv4 settings
[22:14] <HelloWorld321> So putting synergys as my greeter-setup-script is disconnecting the X display.  Is that good?
[22:15] <maheanuu> hitsuji
[22:15] <juken> glycol: how does it know to go out wlan0?
[22:16] <dmatt> Shirakawasuna: thanks for the suggestion, but this is most likely not solution, because that button does not register any keypress at the moment
[22:16] <Shirakawasuna> tripelb: that sounds like two separate problems. (1) ubuntu is having "internal errors" and must reboot and (2) the cheese app is dying. Is that true?
[22:17] <Shirakawasuna> dmatt: You should see if there are hp-specific kernel modules
[22:17] <Shirakawasuna> dmatt: For example on my thinkpads I run thinkpad_acpi to enable various hardware buttons
[22:17] <maheanuu> Ok, not sure where I need to go or what I need to do, but I am having a problem downloading files using Transmission,  I am trying to drop a video file under my video file, and it gives me an error that it doesn't recognize the drive
[22:19] <Shirakawasuna> dmatt: This may help you troubleshoot the problem. Keep in mind that you shouldn't implement any solutions until you know they work on ubuntu. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_Keyboard_Keys
[22:19] <glycol> juken: my guess would be it knows that it knows there's a connection on wlan0 and it will forward everything that way, it's a bit complicated, the laptop also does network address translation, etc
[22:19] <HelloWorld321> Is the #!bash convention  to name your bash scripts with the "sh" extension (ie: script.sh)?
[22:19] <Shirakawasuna> iirc xev can miss some key presses
[22:20] <Shirakawasuna> HelloWorld321: If it's a shell script you can use .sh to indicate that. If it's getting installed to e.g. /usr/bin you should omit it so the command is simple.
[22:20] <tripelb> Shirakawasuna, hi. thanks for responding. yes. I have a webcame that worked on 10.04 logitech. I restarted cheese. again I see the menu but the things below the screen area (which is black) are all greyed out. I changed the cam from being in a USB 1.1 port to a 2.0 port in case that might make a difference.
[22:20] <Shirakawasuna> HelloWorld321: The shebang should be #!/bin/bash for a bash-specific script
[22:21] <HelloWorld321> tx Shirakawasuna
[22:22] <Shirakawasuna> tripelb: Start cheese from a terminal emulator. When it dies or has problems it will hopefully generate a useful error that you can pastebin / search google for.
[22:23] <dmatt> Shirakawasuna: I never needed special modules with my hp laptop(s), but it sounds promising :)   ...(showkey --scancode does not show anything for the wifi button)
[22:27] <tripelb> Shirakawasuna, I do not know what a terminal emulator is. Cheese only quit once and I had pluged and unpluged the webcam a few times. I dont knwo if there is a trouble with what? lspci does detect the webcam.
[22:28] <Shirakawasuna> tripelb: Just a terminal. Technically the terminal app is an emulator. Open one and run cheese
[22:29] <tripelb> ok. Shirakawasuna right now I am running update. :)
[22:30] <maheanuu> For some reason, I can not download any file,  at first it shows that it is downloading then it gives me an error message, I get it for all types of downloads and I cannot find what is causing this
[22:31] <bekks> maheanuu: Which error message...?
[22:34] <daftykins> maheanuu: how are you downloading? from where? with what?
[22:34] <tripelb> Shirakawasuna, thanks for doing this with me. Here is the results http://paste.ubuntu.com/6402286/
[22:35] <faraway> Does anyone here know if it is possible to enable the function 'imageantialias' in php5-gd (12.04) ? I found some tutorial but they are for 10.10 and i wonder if it is possible to enable with the default repos somehow.
[22:37] <hkan> hello, I'm installing Ubuntu GNOME 13.10 right now, and I just found out that this is the development and the 13.04 is the stable version. Does it have any known major problems?
[22:38] <zerowaitstate> what is the preferred way in ubuntu to play sounds from the command line?
[22:38] <xangua> hkan: 13.10 stands for year and month released
[22:38] <dmatt> Shirakawasuna: I have hp modules loaded so it is probably kernel bug similar to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1246143
[22:38] <zacktu> I've been using 12.04 on one system for a long time.  Today I've installed 13.10 on another system.  The system summary (ubuntu version, kernel version, etc.) is no longer in system monitor (now gnome system monitor).  Is there another program that shows a system summary (other than command line -- I don't mind CLI, but the command for getting versions is obscure, so I have to search for it...
[22:38] <zacktu> ...when I want to use it)
[22:39] <Shirakawasuna> dmatt: most likely
[22:39] <Shirakawasuna> tripelb: that's pretty strange - a ^C you didn't enter?
[22:40] <xangua> zacktu: lsb_release -a
[22:40] <hkan> I actually didn't know that it was release date, but this isn't actually what I'm asking. is there big differences between ubuntu gnome 13.04 and ubuntu gnome 13.10, for example 13.10 might have a bug that affects sound?
[22:41] <apofis> faraway: I think you can follow similar way - get source package; add necessary flag and build debs
[22:42] <xangua> hkan: newer  software might have 'new bugs', yes
[22:43] <hkan> xangua: ok thanks for answers
[22:44] <maheanuu> bekks,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6402314/
[22:45] <bekks> maheanuu: The HTTP error codes show that Oracle did something on their download locations.
[22:46] <maheanuu> What do I need to do, reinstall Ubuntu......   IF so I got some saving to do
[22:47] <maheanuu> bekks, the above was for you, one of these days I might just learn how to be civil.....
[22:47] <faraway> apofis: I'll look at it.
[22:49] <maheanuu> When I first bought this laptop, I immediately removed Windos 8 from it and formatted the disk and loaded 12.04.2 LTS on it, which left me with a lot of new stuff unresolved...  It has improved a bit but still am having a difficult time in getting up and running not sure if some of the problem is not in the Toshiba end of ths
[22:52] <maheanuu> My biggest problem is not having anyone to use as a sounding board.   And those who use linux here are using french versions and they do not speak english and my technicial french is next to zero
[22:53] <reisio> maheanuu: well, people can help you with specific problems
[22:53] <reisio> and not vague ones :)
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> bazinga
[22:55] <joossee> how do i tell ubuntu to use fglrx instead of the vesa driver?
[22:55] <maheanuu> reisio, that is what I am trying to work on now,   I am not sure of what to do as I am getting errors on all downloads wether it is upgrades or torrents, nothing seems to want to go to any drive I put on line
[22:57] <thinkUland> How localization works in Ubuntu? I mean what are the packages and stuff I have to setup to have localized everything that can be localized?
[22:57] <infused> when seting up apache2 should i edit httpd.conf
[22:58] <thinkUland> Moreover I need it commandline only as I the system has to be configured by script (it is special purpose live system).
[23:00] <prasselpikachu> HA, NOW i have a reason to have two displays
[23:01] <infused_> 2x the work flow?
[23:01] <daftykins> infused_: depends what you're doing, also it might be apache2.conf not httpd.conf
[23:01] <prasselpikachu> I want to test a new desktop env without shutting down the old one
[23:03] <infused_> I think i get it now
[23:05] <phong_> hi guys, how to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10?
[23:05] <phong_> i can't see to get it upgrade at all..i does nothing
[23:05] <prasselpikachu> do-release-upgrade in terminal
[23:05] <phong_> I just don't want to reinstall everything.
[23:05] <bekks> phong_: update to 13.04 then to 13.10, using do-release-upgrade
[23:05] <minimec> prasselpikachu: Well infact what you want is possible. Imagine you only have one screen activated in the current session and the second one is 'off'. You could then start a second xserver as a different(!) user for the second screen. First server would be on tty7, second one on tty8.
[23:06] <phong_> i tried that, do nothing
[23:06] <k1l_> phong_: you cant upgrade direct from 12.04 to 13.10
[23:06] <prasselpikachu> minimec: yeah
[23:06] <phong_> oh
[23:06] <phong_> k1l_, so there is no way for me to get it to 13.10?
[23:06] <k1l_> phong_: you need to make all upgrades: 12.04-12.10-13.04-13.10
[23:06] <bekks> phong_: thats what I just said to you...
[23:06] <bekks> phong_: update to 13.04 then to 13.10, using do-release-upgrade
[23:06] <phong_> then how to get it to 12.10?
[23:06] <k1l_> phong_: or you do the LTS upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 (when 14.04 is final in april)
[23:06] <phong_> current i'm sitting at 12.04 lts
[23:06] <bekks> Oh, and 12.10 before.
[23:07] <phong_> so how to get it to 12.10 commandly
[23:07] <phong_> i try this, do nothing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades
[23:07] <bekks> do-release-upgrade
[23:07] <k1l_> phong_: set release-prompt to normal (from LTS) and run update-manager
[23:08] <phong_> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[23:08] <phong_> No new release found
[23:08] <phong_> phong_@p:~$
[23:08] <phong_> how?
[23:08] <phong_> where do i set it?
[23:08] <xangua> phong_: software center > edit > software sources > update tab > enable normal upgrades > keep in front of the computer for a whole day or more 12.04-12.10-13.04-13.10
[23:08] <minimec> prasselpikachu: You could even do that with one single screen, using tty1 + tty2 console to manage the xservers and tty7 +tty8 for the actual xserver.
[23:09] <prasselpikachu> minimec: so how exactly would i do that
[23:09] <phong_> xangua, how about this: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[23:09] <phong_> set to normal?
[23:09] <phong_> that will do the trick?
[23:10] <prasselpikachu> minimec: i currently have fluxbox running, started by a lightdm daemon
[23:10] <k1l_> phong_: its the same. one is CLI and the other is GUI that reads the config
[23:10] <minimec> prasselpikachu: This could be a start https://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&source=hp&biw=1051&bih=805&q=two%20seperate%20xserver%20ubuntu&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=
[23:10] <phong_> ok k1l_ superb
[23:10] <prasselpikachu> minimec: hallo :D
[23:10] <xangua> phong_: sounds like you really have a loooot of free time if you wish to upgrade thru every release
[23:10] <phong_> yes. in deed
[23:11] <phong_> ok....let say ...it is doing updating..i accidentally unplug the pc, will anything goes wrong?
[23:12] <phong_> i'm just being currious.
[23:12] <Shirakawasuna> phong_: If it's right in the middle of installing things, bad things can easily happen
[23:12] <bekks> phong_: Most likely, yes.
[23:12] <Shirakawasuna> phong_: Also if you're in the middle of a release upgrade, it's extra bad
[23:12] <phong_> I have fast internet...but still downloading slow /upgrading lol
[23:13] <phong_> ubuntu company server slow?
[23:13] <Shirakawasuna> phong_: It'd be faster to just reinstall btw
[23:13] <phong_> oh
[23:13] <phong_> but i loose my setting
[23:13] <Shirakawasuna> phong_: Kind of
[23:13] <phong_> i wish they allow upgrade thru ISO
[23:14] <phong_> so that it doesn't need to download
[23:14] <Shirakawasuna> phong_: You can back up everything and restore it after installing a clean 13.10 image
[23:14] <topper4125> If you have /home on its own partition, you wouldn't loose your settings on a fresh install
[23:14] <phong_> really?
[23:14] <riceandbeans> debian is #2 on distrowatch
[23:14] <riceandbeans> beating ubuntu
[23:14] <Shirakawasuna> phong_: Configs will usually be stored in .config and .local. Back up your entire /home/youruser folder to be safe
[23:14] <bingo> hello. is it recommended to restart after any updates?
[23:14] <phong_> what app is used to back up?
[23:14] <Shirakawasuna> phong_: Though one important note is that it isn't guaranteed that configs for 11.10 software will work for 13.10
[23:14] <phong_> in windows i use acronis true image
[23:15] <topper4125> bingo, it will tell you if one is required (but I tend to reboot anyway if I'm not busy)
[23:15] <Shirakawasuna> phong_: There are many options for backing up. I use rsync (command line program). I believe there are GUIs that use rsync to make backups.
[23:15] <bingo> topper4125, ty
[23:15] <phong_> Shirakawasuna, i use ubuntu in wmware workstation 10.0.1
[23:15] <phong_> :)
[23:16] <phong_> Shirakawasuna, i also have 13.10 installed on SSD drive
[23:16] <phong_> but,  prefer it in vmware so that i can use window
[23:16] <Shirakawasuna> phong_: Because I'm paranoid I'd (1) do the backup from a live image (e.g. usb installation media), (2) Transfer the files to an external hard drive (maybe 2), and (3) verify the integrity of each file (this is why you're in the live environment - neither the backup nor your disk should change so you can compare them)
[23:17] <phong_> Shirakawasuna, let's forget about back up thing.....not sure what to do.. :)
[23:17] <phong_> and not really know what you're talking about.
[23:17] <prasselpikachu> minimec: well, it still wont work, it complains about listening sockets
[23:17] <phong_> all these computers terms.
[23:18] <Shirakawasuna> phong_: ok
[23:18] <cuddylier> What is the netstat command to search for processes using a certain IP?
[23:18] <Shirakawasuna> phong_: At some point you should do backups anyways! What if that computer dies?
[23:20] <minimec> prasselpikachu: You would have to login as a different user on a console a start the server with 'startx'. It would then normally start the default window manager. Otherwise you have to use some some options of startx http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pseries/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.aix.cmds/doc/aixcmds5/startx.htm
[23:20] <nasa01> Tried boot-repair...  No love.
[23:21] <barth> cuddylier: netstat -tulpn
[23:22] <phong_> Shirakawasuna, i copy the whole vmware folder as a backup
[23:22] <phong_> Shirakawasuna, right?
[23:22] <prasselpikachu> minimec: will restart, maybe i just fucked it up
[23:22] <phong_> Shirakawasuna, very simple to do copy folder, my 5 years hold son can do it too
[23:22] <Shirakawasuna> phong_: Sorry, I don't know since I've never used vmware
[23:23] <Shirakawasuna> phong_: The downside of copy is that there's no verification that each file transferred "perfectly"
[23:24] <BloodSkin> g nickserv identify madrox66
[23:24] <BloodSkin> welp
[23:24] <BloodSkin> time to change that
[23:24] <barth> Shirakawasuna: what about open files?
[23:24] <BloodSkin> oh nvm wrong network
[23:24] <BloodSkin> not registered here
[23:25] <Shirakawasuna> barth: what do you mean?
[23:25] <barth> Shirakawasuna: in vmware guest
[23:25] <Shirakawasuna> I have no experience with vmware so I can't make recommendations about it
[23:25] <Shirakawasuna> sorry!
[23:25] <barth> Shirakawasuna: so backup without stopping it doesn't make sens
[23:26] <Shirakawasuna> If possible you should do backups 'offline'
[23:26] <barth> Shirakawasuna: maybe there is a chance to make a snapshot ... but I don't know how about file consistency
[23:26] <barth> Shirakawasuna: and that it is possible the best way ...
[23:27] <Shirakawasuna> phong_: You should consider asking people in #vmware
[23:28] <orbisvicis> where can I get the manual page for debhelper 7.3.15
[23:29] <unstable> I keep turning off my touchpad, though after a reboot it turns back on. I'm on the latest ubuntu, with all default settings. How can I fix this?
[23:30] <unstable> dmesg doesn't print out anything wiht 'error' or 'mouse'
[23:31] <topper4125> unstable, could you turn it off and leave it off in previous OS's? (Maybe a setting in the bios, or whatever it is they call it these days if you machine is newer.
[23:32] <orbisvicis> found it
[23:32] <xangua> unstable: tried to disable it with your function keys¿
[23:32] <prasselpikachu> minimec: well
[23:33] <prasselpikachu> minimec: it works a bit
[23:33] <topper4125> unstable, did you try any of these? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2141504
[23:33] <prasselpikachu> minimec: i can start the scnd x server, but
[23:34] <prasselpikachu> 1. it freezes fluxbox on VT7, and 2. it has a white window complaining about stuff
[23:36] <minimec> unstable: If you put something similar in the 'gnome-session-properties', it would turn off the device everytime you login your user session. 'xinput set-int-prop "Logitech USB Gaming Mouse" "Device Enabled" 8 0' --> 'xinput --list' shows you your devices.
[23:36] <prasselpikachu> minimec: so, started it using a different user
[23:37] <zykotick9> prasselpikachu: not sure about lightdm (but GDM) prevents the same user logging in twice at the same time...  just something to keep in mind.
[23:37] <prasselpikachu> minimec: but weirdly (as before when i started both with the same user) it wont even open a terminal window
[23:37] <prasselpikachu> it just flashes over the screen
[23:38] <Geo_> hi, anyone already tried to install forticlient on ubuntu 12.04 64bits?
[23:38] <prasselpikachu> also it says another window manager is already running on display :1
[23:38] <xangua> !anyone | Geo_
[23:38] <prasselpikachu> and it cant find screens to manage
[23:39] <minimec> prasselpikachu: You have to dig the docs a little bit... I cannot really guide you through, because the last time I did this was quiet some time ago...
[23:39] <clynamen> does someone know in which packet is included boost's atomic?
[23:40] <Geo_> Does someone know how to make forticlient work on ubuntu 12.04 64bits ?
[23:41] <k1l_> clynamen: i dont know what you mean, but you can search with "apt-cache search " or search on packages.ubuntu.com
[23:41] <clynamen> k1l_: thanks for your advice, but it seems harder than expected to find it
[23:41] <cpined> hello, I've just finished installing a fresh Ubuntu OS.  I don't hear any sound coming out, I have a Creative Labs CT4780 SBLive! Value card.  Can anyone help?
[23:41] <clynamen> I mean, there is no packaet that contain atomic
[23:42] <bekks> clynamen: apt-cache search libboost
[23:42] <clynamen> bekks: It seems to be not included in normal boost...
[23:43] <bekks> clynamen: Define "normal boost" please.
[23:44] <bekks> clynamen: And which Ubuntu version are you on?
[23:44] <clynamen> bekks: sorry, i meant boost packages in the repository
[23:44] <topper4125> Geo_ take a look at this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/134715/fortinet-ssl-vpn-client-and-ubuntu-12-04
[23:44] <clynamen> 12.04
[23:45] <Geo_> topper4125 thks for the link but i already tried this and it broke my gnome-session-fallback
[23:45] <bekks> clynamen: Its only available for raring and trusty, from the repos.
[23:45] <bekks> clynamen: Maybe you can find some PPA or some backport.
[23:45] <clynamen> bekks: thank you.
[23:45] <topper4125> Everything I'm finding about it sounds like it a tough cookie to crack, but it *is* possible if you have the patience Geo_, good luck with it.
[23:46] <bekks> clynamen: packages.ubuntu.com was what I used to look for libboost-atomic ;)
[23:46] <Geo_> topper4125 thank you
[23:46] <clynamen> bekks: I did not realize I had an old ubuntu version
[23:46] <bekks> clynamen: you have the latest LTS.
[23:47] <np8> What can i do, if i have a corrupted Ubuntu 13.04 (64-bit), caused by a shutdown after incomplete (frozen) distro update?
[23:47] <apofis> cpined: this sound card should work by default - which version of ubuntu have you installed ? (LTS||regular)
[23:48] <np8> Only way to get a functioning operating system and internet connection is trough live-cd
[23:48] <prasselpikachu> minimec: IT WORKS \o/ WHOOOOOO
[23:49] <topper4125> np8: http://askubuntu.com/questions/287047/ubuntu-upgrade-from-12-10-to-13-04-failed-interrupted-cannot-access-ubuntu
[23:49] <minimec> prasselpikachu: Congrats! You passed the next level inthe never ending Linux game... ;)
[23:50] <prasselpikachu> minimec: now i can finally have soundcloud on a separate VT yay
[23:50] <cpined> started off with just Ubuntu server and then I think xfce
[23:51] <np8> topper4125: I got this chrooted and ran "apt-get update", which gave me this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6402564/
[23:51] <prasselpikachu> man, i just learned again how awesome it is to use linux
[23:53] <topper4125> np8, not promising anything.. but maybe try this: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/forum/support/20090724/fix-apt-get-could-not-resolve-archiveubuntucom
[23:54] <topper4125> first option listed looks most promising...
[23:54] <np8> After that i also did "sudo dpkg --configure -a", which first too about 15 minutes, and then gave an error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6402585/ -- which looks quite bad, doesnt it?
[23:54] <phong_> upgrading is taking for sure long man
[23:54] <phong_> darm it. i should have not upgrading
[23:55] <np8> took*
[23:55] <phong_> this is rediculious where fresh install is much quicker then upgrade
[23:56] <np8> Do i have any other options than installing again a plain ubuntu from the live-cd?
[23:56] <topper4125> oooh... ouch np8, (lines 416 and 417 were kind of ironic)... tbh, that's a lil above my knowledge base to fix.
[23:57] <topper4125> is your /home on a seperate partition?
[23:58] <np8> Im running on live-cd, maybe thats the way? Im not an expert on these thing either
[23:58] <prasselpikachu> lol, just noticed it even launches URLs in the chromium which is on the other display :D
[23:58] <np8> maybe thats why* -- Its 2am and im still fighting with this..
[23:59] <tripelb> Shirakawasuna, I am the cheese girl.12.04 webcam. I was looking for a response but I cant find one. I sent you the paste last. will repeat.  Shirakawasuna, thanks for doing this with me. Here is the results http://paste.ubuntu.com/6402286/