[00:44] <Walzmyn> I just created a "search and launch" activity. It created a blank desktop/activity. Should there have been somthing on the desktop when it was created? (Kubuntu 12.04, KDE 4.11.2)
[01:56] <nafg_> Can anyone help me with preseeding?
[02:04] <freetown2> hello all
[02:04] <freetown2> what tool would you use to do a roll out of kubuntu desktops on netbooks?
[02:05] <freetown2> and also push out wireless, printer and other settings while at it?
[02:06] <freetown2> i have tried using d-i but the documentation available is lacking and right now I am going at it with a hit and miss to get it fully automated
[02:07] <freetown2> would you recommend fai for this?
[02:30] <cjwelborn> So, when I installed Ubuntu, and now Kubuntu on my laptop the screen would be all black during the installation (with a hint of a logo). It turned out that the screen brightness wasn't being set. It still isn't set when I boot, but I'm living with it (i don't reboot as much on linux). Still, if acpi_off and acpi_osi can't fix this without breaking other stuff, what can? Anyone know?
[02:34] <cjwelborn> Also, KDE handles my screen brightness buttons correctly, and will brighten my screen AFTER login. (which means I press the + button repeatedly, login, and then KDE sets it to %100 (when plugged in).
[02:51] <cjwelborn> nm, ##linux got me.
[03:07] <dewdgang-frank> Hey :)
[03:08] <dewdgang-frank> So guys, I use ubuntu and I like it more and more. + my Raspbian wheezy of course. But I just joined this channel to find out about this "kubuntu" thats being talked about. Anyone can explain me the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu in 1 sentence? :)
[03:09] <ussher_> kubuntu uses KDE, ubuntu uses gnome or ubiquity as a desktop.
[03:14] <dewdgang-frank> okay
[03:15] <dewdgang-frank> im basicly using Raspbian wheezy and Ubuntu on 2 different machines (RPi of course and on a mac) because I think its more secure than - .... my pc.
[03:15] <dewdgang-frank> with windows.
[03:15] <dewdgang-frank> ;) thats the only reason. im not a server admin or anything like that.
[03:16] <dewdgang-frank> just doing transactions with linux.
[03:16] <vvvm> dewdgang-frank: I switched to KUbuntu full time since I could not stand the win 8 changes
[03:17] <vvvm> or the new Ubuntu gui, whatever it is called
[03:18] <dewdgang-frank> vvvm I used ubuntu about 2 years ago. remember it was a bit different back then. now I had to download it again for trading and daily transactions. I dont even trust my OS X since Its stuffed with many private things.
[03:19] <vvvm> use KUbuntu ... i was using it for about two years now ... works like a charm ... i had to recompile the kernel though, cause the vanilla one didn't support some new HW in my laptop
[03:19] <dewdgang-frank> the thing with the search and the amazon sponsored links just made me shake my head for days and days. making some money, okay. but... argh. and now the news about the guy that hosted the website fixubuntu(.com?) that got in trouble for that..
[03:20] <valorie> there was an official apology about that, btw
[03:20] <dewdgang-frank> oh okay
[03:20] <valorie> from Mark Shuttleworth
[03:20] <dewdgang-frank> i just stumpled across one article about it
[03:20] <valorie> I love Kubuntu and KDE
[03:20] <dewdgang-frank> thought like not cool
[03:20] <valorie> it was not cool for sure
[03:21] <valorie> I think everyone should use what they like/works for them
[03:21] <valorie> for me, it's Kubuntu
[03:21] <vvvm> do you guys know how to theck the systemd I have installed?
[03:22] <vvvm> *how to check the version of systemd i have
[03:22] <dewdgang-frank> does kubuntu also offer some kind of cd-/dvd-boot like ubuntu? I mean like a really simple way like its with ubuntu, download the image, burn to a cd or dvd, reboot, boot from dvd, click "try" and boom have a fresh os every time. pretty cool since I cant use usb drives for reasons
[03:22] <valorie> of course
[03:22] <valorie> http://getkubuntu.org
[03:23] <valorie> ooops, http://www.kubuntu.org/
[03:23] <valorie> sorry
[03:23] <valorie> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[03:23] <valorie> mashed that up good, i did
[03:23] <dewdgang-frank> thats such a huge gain of security when there is need for doing secure offline works on a computer. much quicker than reinstalling my crappy windows like back in the days, oh jesus...
[03:23] <dewdgang-frank> *bookmarked*
[05:41] <ussher_> got a strange situation regarding xinerama, nvidia, kubuntu.  When I have xinerama enabled in nvidia settings and create a screencast with ffmpeg, the cursor doesnt show.  Any ideas how to search for a resolution to this problem?
[07:29] <sumitb> Hi everyone
[07:29] <sumitb> I am on Kubuntu 13.10, and have 2 NTFS partitions
[07:30] <sumitb> From 2nd partition, I use few VirtualBox VMs and the performance is really bad
[07:30] <sumitb> the process mount.ntfs takes 50-60% of the CPU
[07:30] <sumitb> while if the VM is placed on an ext4 partition, it works good
[07:31] <sumitb> is there a way to optimize NTFS performance? Specially, i have set the paritions to automound using the KDE automount service
[07:32] <sumitb> i read that using noatime and big_write parameters help, but how to specify it for automount
[08:00] <mak_> can help me, my kubuntu does enter sleep mode when i close my laptop lid. google has been not very helpful so far
[08:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:04] <hermitsage> hi, can someone help my, my kubuntu does not enter sleep mode when is close the laptop lid. google has not been very helpful soo far
[08:05] <Tm_T> ...
[08:05] <valorie> hermitsage: did you set it up in systemsettings to sleep on close?
[08:05] <Tm_T> hermitsage: please stay in the channel for some time so people can help you
[08:06] <hermitsage> @Tm_T, stuggling to figure out how to use this irc client, not straight forward
[08:21] <hermitsage> anybody?
[08:26] <valorie> hermitsage: did you set it up in systemsettings to sleep on close?
[08:26] <valorie> you never answered my question
[08:45] <hermitsage> valorie: sorry was afk
[08:46] <hermitsage> valorie: yes in system setting->power management, if set it up so it will go to sleep upon closing of lid
[08:51] <lordievader> hermitsage: Does sleep work? As in does you laptop go to sleep when you select it through the menu?
[08:52] <hermitsage> it used work in 13.04, with 13.10 update it seems to have failed
[08:53] <valorie> hmmm
[08:53] <valorie> might be time to file a bug, then
[08:53] <hermitsage_> ooh, how do i do this?
[08:54] <hermitsage_> and other info do need to provide?
[08:54] <valorie> !bug
[08:54] <lordievader> hermitsage: But does sleep work in general? It is usefull to see if the problem is the laptop lid close signal or that pm-sleep doesn't work.
[08:54] <valorie> that should give you all the information you need, hermitsage_
[08:55] <hermitsage_> one important detail, after every shutdown sleep functionality works exactly once
[08:55] <lordievader> hermitsage: So it is more a problem with pm-sleep?
[08:56] <hermitsage_> lordieader: how i confirm this
[08:56] <lordievader> hermitsage_: Run "sudo pm-suspend".
[08:58] <hermitsage_> lordievader: trying, since this will be first sleep after today mornings reboot i might go offline
[09:00] <hermitsage_> thanks lordievader: the is able to send the system to sleep twice just now
[09:00] <hermitsage_> deos this mean its a hardware issue?
[09:00] <lordievader> hermitsage_: So it is probably a problem with the laptop close signal.
[09:02] <lordievader> hermitsage_: If it worked in Raring it is unlikely that it is a hardware issue.
[09:03] <hermitsage_> lordievader: ok, is there anything else to try before i report a bug
[09:03] <lordievader> hermitsage_: Nothing springs to mind.
[09:05] <hermitsage_> thanks lordievader: and valorie:
[09:05] <hermitsage_> will file a bug a bit later
[10:10] <wuschLOR> hi there
[10:10] <lordievader> Hey wuschLOR
[10:22] <wuschLOR> could need a little help with 12.04 and back in time
[10:26] <lordievader> wuschLOR: What seems to be the problem?
[10:28] <monkeyjuice> Morning to ya
[10:28] <lordievader> Hey monkeyjuice, how are you?
[10:28] <monkeyjuice> a bit colder ;) its only 25 degs. f
[10:30] <lordievader> monkeyjuice: Not familiar with farenheit, here it is 6 degrees C ;)
[10:30] <zztopless> Wow, and I was bitching that it was cold here for this time of the year
[10:30] <monkeyjuice> i think 0 deg c is 32 deg f i think
[10:31] <zztopless> was like 0-20C last week and only got up to ~11-12C yesturday
[10:31] <zztopless> Supposed to be nearly summer
[10:31] <lordievader> monkeyjuice: So it is freezing there?
[10:31] <lordievader> Anyhow this is more a topic for #kubuntu-offtopic, lets continue there.
[10:31] <monkeyjuice> hmmm well it snowed here last nite . ya lordievader freezing ;
[10:32] <monkeyjuice> yep
[10:37] <zztopless> Snowed up in the mountains on the weekend here (~2.5 hours away), rarely gets cold enough to snow in town even in winter (plenty of overnight templs below -5C, but only gets that cold when it's clear overnight.
[10:38] <zztopless> Its just strange, as we had a day that got up to ~30C last week, a couple of days later we get down close to 0 overnight, then the wet whether saw two winter like days with the max ~ 11-12C... never experienced anything like it in November (ie end of spring)
[10:39] <lordievader> zztopless: Join #kubuntu-offtopic ;) /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:40] <zztopless> done (in my defence, I didn't start the off-topic your honor :P)
[10:50] <wuschLOR> i cant get it to work btw the gui wont start up
[10:51] <lordievader> wuschLOR: Does it give an error? Do you get to kdm (the login screen).
[10:53] <wuschLOR> i get to the loginscreen plasma works fine no problem there (set my notebook up yesterday ) the only thing i cant get to work is back in time backup
[10:53] <wuschLOR> there isnt an error - i can see the bck in time loading thingy at the taskbar but then nothing happens
[10:53] <lordievader> Ah, you mean the gui of Back in Time backup. Never heard of Back in Time, I simply use rsync for my backups.
[10:54] <lordievader> wuschLOR: Run it from a terminal, that usually gives a hint on what the problem is.
[10:54] <monkeyjuice> run it from terminal and watch
[10:54] <monkeyjuice> yep
[10:54] <wuschLOR> if i run it from the terminal it just gives me back  the version
[10:55] <wuschLOR> and nothing happens
[10:56] <monkeyjuice> looks like it run a gui for rsync
[10:56] <monkeyjuice> runs
[10:57] <wuschLOR1> wu@R500wu:~$ sudo backintime
[10:57] <wuschLOR1> [sudo] password for wu:
[10:57] <wuschLOR1> Back In Time
[10:57] <wuschLOR1> Version: 1.0.28
[10:57] <wuschLOR1> Back In Time comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
[10:57] <wuschLOR1> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
[10:57] <wuschLOR1> under certain conditions; type `backintime --license' for details.
[10:57] <FloodBotK1> wuschLOR1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:57] <wuschLOR> this is all thats coming back
[10:58] <lordievader> !paste | wuschLOR
[10:58] <wuschLOR> sry
[10:59] <lordievader> wuschLOR: Try "sudo backintime-kde4"
[11:01] <wuschLOR> works perfekt
[11:02] <wuschLOR> thank you vervy much
[11:03] <lordievader> wuschLOR: Through the terminal it does work? That's odd, oh well, have fun backing up!
[11:04] <wuschLOR> how did you know ? btw. where could i find such information - i googled for like 1 hour
[11:05] <lordievader> wuschLOR: Man pages are your friend (man backintime) or: http://www.linuxcertif.com/man/1/backintime/
[11:14] <wuschLOR> :) thank you
[11:15] <lordievader> wuschLOR: No problem ;)
[12:53] <mbnoimi> I'm unable to see Pidgin icon in the tray, how can I fix this issue?
[12:59] <ezra-s> mbnoimi, If I recall well, pidgin has an option to show in there
[14:31] <ct529>  /msg NickServ identify none
[14:31] <Wizard> :.
[14:34] <Wizard> ct529: Have you changed your password yet?
[14:35] <ct529> Wizard: no, just made a COLOSSAL mistake, haven't I?
[14:35]  * ct529 flogging himself with an anchor chain
[14:37] <Wizard> :>
[14:37] <ct529> Wizard: and yes, I have now ....
[14:37] <ct529> Wizard: :D thanks a lot .... never identify yourslef when you are drinking coffee
[14:39] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:45] <ct529> hi BluesKaj1
[14:49] <BluesKaj> hi ct529
[16:18] <murali> Hello. My google chrome doesnt exit full screen. no matter wat i do Esc. F11.  nothin is working please help
[16:25] <murali> Hello. My google chrome doesnt exit full screen. no matter wat i do Esc. F11.  nothin is working please help
[16:26] <tester56> murali: open konsole and type: killall -9 chrome
[16:28] <tester56> oh fullscreen: switch to a VT then (Strg + Alt + F1, log in and type killall -9 chrome, in case that does not work, restart lightdm (sudo stop lightdm && sudo start lightdm))
[16:30] <genii> Alternately,ctrl-alt-esc to bring up xkill skull and click on it.
[19:29] <WLAN> My wireless doesn't seem to be working. The drivers are not recognised
[19:29] <crowell> WLAN: what card do you have?
[19:29] <WLAN> Broadcom card.
[19:29] <crowell> can you give a link to the output of "lspci" or "lshw"?
[19:30] <WLAN> not sure which model. but when i boot from USB. the wireless works.
[19:30] <WLAN> and i've installed on my HDD and it doenst
[19:30] <WLAN> Broadcom Corporation BCM43143
[19:30] <crowell> so it works from the kubuntu livecd?
[19:30] <WLAN> Broadcom Corporation BCM43142*
[19:30] <WLAN> it works when booted from USB yes
[19:30] <WLAN> i can activate properitary driver.
[19:31] <crowell> can you lsmod?
[19:31] <WLAN> when not from bootable usb and i try to open additonal drivers
[19:31] <WLAN> it says 'Downloading package indexes failed, check your network status, most drivers will not be available'
[19:31] <WLAN> what do you need from it
[19:32] <crowell> just paste the output to paste.kde.org
[19:32] <WLAN> i've got kubuntu running on a different pc. so i can't
[19:32] <WLAN> and no internet on the pc
[19:32] <crowell> ok, does it have brcm80211 listed?
[19:33] <WLAN> lsmod | grep brcm doesn't list anything no
[19:33] <WLAN> nor can I see it
[19:33] <crowell> so neither that nor broadcom-wl are listed?
[19:33] <WLAN> nope, nothing to do with broadcom
[19:34] <lordievader> WLAN: This might help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:34] <crowell> its weird that it didn't insatll properly
[19:35] <crowell> maybe the livedisk has propriatary stuff builtin?
[19:36] <WLAN> index files failed to download. and it failed to fetch a bunch of stuff and resolve
[19:36] <crowell> WLAN: that's because you're not connected to the internet, you can't grab new packages
[19:36] <crowell> can you plug in a wired drop?
[19:36] <WLAN> followed wrong one one second
[19:43] <WLAN> no
[19:44] <crowell> no what?
[19:45] <WLAN> not one that i can obtain without signing in
[19:45] <WLAN> i have to sign in to use each wireless network
[19:45] <WLAN> and wired
[19:45] <crowell> you can't sign into the wired one/
[19:45] <crowell> ?
[19:46] <WLAN> i need to sign int to use it
[19:47] <WLAN> how do i navigate to usb through terminal/GUI
[19:47] <crowell> a usb drive?
[19:47] <crowell> mass storage?
[19:47] <WLAN> the device is UUI
[19:47] <WLAN> what would i type
[19:48] <crowell> I'm not familar with what UUI is
[19:50] <WLAN> wait
[19:50] <WLAN> i found bcmwl-kernel-source on USB
[19:50] <WLAN> but the error is
[19:50] <WLAN> cannot satisfy dependcancies
[19:51] <WLAN> dependacies*
[19:54] <MangaKaDenza> huh
[19:54] <MangaKaDenza> say, did the plasma widgets section of the muon discover/software center disappear for anybody else?
[19:54] <MangaKaDenza> when they upgraded to Kubu13.10 that is
[20:32] <brejoc> hi everyone. earlier this day i wanted to install kubuntu-desktop from backports for precise and added the ppa. after apt-get update the installation of kubuntu-desktop failed with a missing dependency. i think it was the kde window manager. is therer anythink broken in the ppa or did i miss something?
[20:34] <genii> brejoc: If you could pastebin the output, it might be useful to see.
[20:36] <brejoc> genii: i'm sure it would. sadly i've immediately cleaned up the mess, removed the ppa und continued the daily routine. :(
[20:37] <brejoc> well, but let's try again.
[20:37] <genii> brejoc: The most likely suspect is some other ppa you have which is interfering
[20:38] <brejoc> genii: are there issues with mixing the kubuntu ppa and the ubuntu phablet ppa?
[20:43] <genii> brejoc: I doubt the phablet ppa would be that problemmatic, or include dependencies which would interfere with those of KDE/Kubuntu.
[20:43] <genii> brejoc: The best thing is if you try again and then we see the actual error :)
[20:44] <brejoc> genii: sorry, my shell just refused to output in english: http://pastebin.com/vwYd7yJA
[20:45] <brejoc> genii: this roughly translates to "This package hast unmet dependencies: kbuntu-desktop : depends on kde-workspace… aso
[20:45] <genii> brejoc: Please try: sudo apt-get -f install
[20:46] <brejoc> genii: nothing
[20:48] <genii> brejoc: sudo apt-get install kde-workspace-bin
[20:48] <brejoc> now it complains about the missing dependency to qdbus. i will select that too.
[20:55] <brejoc> genii: now it gets weird. seems like libqt4-dbus, libqt4-xml, libqtcore4 are too new. reverting them to the older version would result in the deinstallation of half of the packages.
[21:07] <brejoc> gennii: thanks for your help. looks like some lost packages cause these problems. the libqt-xxx-packages are marked as local packages. they are not listed as related to a repository. most likely those are leftovers from a previously configured repository that got kicked out.
[21:09] <anubis> Hello, how is audio organized in Kubuntu? If i stop displayserver with "/etc/init.d/lightdm stop " after a start i have no more audio and my device is not shown in the mixer anymore, what can i do?
[21:25] <genii> brejoc: Apologies on lag, my work required me for an extended period. Although it looks as if you've made progress as far as finding out which packages are being problemmatic
[21:26] <brejoc> genii: don't worry. i had fun in the meantime… kind of! ;)
[21:30] <brejoc> genii: but since i'll need this laptop tomorrow i won't remove half of the installed packages. perhaps i'll be able to perform a clean install of kubuntu later this week. thanks again!
[21:37] <gassho> so how do i manage screen brightness
[21:37] <genii> brejoc: If you do apt-cache policy <name> on the affected packages, it may tell you where they came from that was not from the stock repos
[21:42] <gassho> nm found it
[21:42] <brejoc> genii: sadly there is no trace left. it just says "/var/lib/dpkg/status"
[21:49] <brejoc> genii: i have to leave now. it's very late here and i have to get up early. have a good day/night. bye!
[22:15] <goodtime> man...........
[22:15] <goodtime> freakin gilbert is fuckin geekin......
[22:16] <goodtime> wtf!!!!!
[22:17] <goodtime> oppps sorry i thought i was on a differnt #
[22:20]  * genii slaps goodtime on the wrist for the bad language, then goes back to coffee
[22:29] <goodtime> sorry genii
[22:29] <goodtime> didnt relize i was here lol
[22:31] <genii> goodtime: Yes, it's OK :) And you did apologize right away, no harm done!
[22:31] <goodtime> cool
[22:31] <goodtime> i wonder why my kubuntu 12.04lts crashes alot
[22:32] <goodtime> and 13.10's GUI isnt working
[22:32] <genii> goodtime: I guess it depends what you're doing with it, what non-standard software or repositories you might be running, etc
[22:33] <goodtime> hmmm idk i just used the kubuntu site that comes with rekongq
[22:33] <goodtime> i like that web browser
[22:33] <genii> goodtime: I am actually about to leave soon but I'm pretty much here 9:30am-5pm EST weekdays, so if you don't get any assistance before tomorrow, look me up here again and we can poke at it with a stick
[22:34] <goodtime> but the install is a little wacked
[22:34] <goodtime> ok ill see you later then
[22:34] <goodtime> :)
[23:36] <keithzg> Hmm. A DVD my colleague has seems to I/O error on attempting to read files with spaces in them . . . I guess Dolphin has mounted it wrongly somehow? (Works fine in a Windows box.)
[23:45] <keithzg> Aha, I see, mounting it normally worked fine (still as UDF).
[23:45] <keithzg> Something in "(ro,nosuid,nodev,uid=1001,gid=1001,iocharset=utf8,umask=0077,uhelper=udisks2)" is to blame, then.
[23:46] <keithzg> Damn udisks2. Not only do they have to do the idiotic /media/username/volumelabel thing, they've apparently done the "add enough complexity that it invariably screws up" plan.
[23:47] <keithzg> I guess I should expect nothing less from the GNOME camp. Sigh.
[23:47] <keithzg> Can they just get on that whole pie-in-the-sky plan of making GNOME a full OS and leave Linux alone already?
[23:52]  * keithzg is an old man and wants these kids off his lawn ;)
[23:52] <MangaKaDenza> :o