=== FreezingAlt is now known as FreezingCold === gfrog is now known as gfrog_working [03:35] hey guys i have a few questions about how kernels work, I upgraded my Ubuntu system and the new kernel is causing a blackscreen where no parameters fix the issue [03:35] how can i go about creating a proper report so i can help people working on the new kernels to look at my issue [03:36] do you think it is fine to use an outdated kernel? would new kernels have a potential of fixing my issue and i should sit this kernel update that is causing the problems out? === gfrog_working is now known as gfrog [06:54] hey guys i have a few questions about how kernels work, I upgraded my Ubuntu system and the new kernel is causing a blackscreen where no parameters fix the issue [06:54] do you think it is fine to use an outdated kernel? would new kernels have a potential of fixing my issue and i should sit this kernel update that is causing the problems out? [06:54] hey guys i have a few questions about how kernels work, I upgraded my Ubuntu system and the new kernel is causing a blackscreen where no parameters fix the issue [06:54] woops wrong button sorry. === tjaalton_ is now known as tjaalton === fmasi_afk is now known as fmasi === fmasi is now known as fmasi_afk === fmasi_afk is now known as fmasi [10:53] robher: Rob, don't know if you saw my email, but we are still waiting your comments about the xgmac learning patch [10:54] robher: subject: "Re: [PATCH 4/5] UBUNTU: SAUCE: net: calxedaxgmac: add mac address learning" [11:55] cking, is there an fwts test for backlight? [11:55] brendand, no [11:55] cking, any reason? [11:56] no one never requested it (yet) [11:56] cking, fair enough :) [11:56] brendand, you could file a bug and i'll chat to hwe to see what is doable [11:56] cking, i think there should be since the firmware interface seems to be the preferred method of updating the backlight by gsd [11:57] cking, i can file a bug of course [11:57] brendand, more tests is always good ;-) [12:02] cking, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1250429 [12:02] Launchpad bug 1250429 in Firmware Test Suite "FWTS should have a test to check that ACPI backlight interface works correctly" [Undecided,New] [12:02] cking, cheers [12:06] brendand, I'll get around to it in the next week or so === fmasi is now known as fmasi_afk === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === fmasi_afk is now known as fmasi [14:26] ppisati, any feedback on the xmac MAC learning patch ? [14:27] rtg: nope, i pinged rob today, let's see if he answer [14:27] ack [14:41] apw, I'm gonna start an unstable branch in trusty so I can start going through all of the new config options in 3.13 [14:47] rtg, makes a lot of sense to me, will help me with my endevours too === gfrog_ is now known as gfrog [15:18] mumble failure [15:22] ppisati, I'm rebasing against 3.13 merge window. WTF is ARM_ARCH_TIMER_EVTSTREAM ? [15:22] rtg: hold on [15:22] even afterreading the help text I'm confused [15:28] rtg: i had the same reaction... [15:28] rtg: https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/9/18/125 [15:28] rtg: looks like timeout support for wfe (enter/exit low-power standby) or evern programming error events [15:28] ppisati, hmm, I wonder why its being built for x86'en. seems like some Kconfig patches are in order. [15:30] rtg: i doubt it attaches there, they probably let it build on x86 to extend toolchain exposure trying to catch as many bugs as possible [15:37] brendand, i've just responded to that brightness test fwts bug, can you follow it up? [15:40] apw: stgraber: so there's a weird issue (https://github.com/lxc/lxc/issues/25) with avahi-daemon in a container. it drops caps then clones. Outside a container the clone works, but inside a container the clone only works if you hack it to not drop CAP_SYS_RESOURCE. [15:40] (clone fails with -EAGAIN) [15:42] running the container unconfined does not change things; running outside a container in a hand-built cgroup does not change things; so i'm having a hard time figuring out why there is anydifference in the privilege level [15:44] ooooh, wiat [15:44] hallyn_, ... waiting [15:44] the uid is in use on the host [15:45] i bet using a unique uid will fix it [15:45] not really a satisfactory fix, but it would at least explain it [15:45] * apw hmms isn't that meant to be fixed by uid spaces [15:46] cking - ok i did [15:46] ta [15:46] apw: yeah, but those are not yet in use in most places [15:46] cking, i think i probably shouldn't raise any more of these bugs before the years end, else i'll have to buy you a christmas present [15:47] (at this stage i probably already should) [15:47] brendand, heh, it's no problem really [15:48] apw: yeah so that fixes it. sorry for the noise. (not sure what to do about it, but it's not a kernel issue :) [15:49] brendand, i think I will call it "autobrightness" if that's OK === ara_ is now known as ara [15:49] cking, backlight? [15:49] cking, your call [15:56] bug 1250495 [15:56] Launchpad bug 1250495 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "armhf: highbank: relocate initrd to make room for a bigger kernel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1250495 [15:56] infinity: you might be interested in it ^ [16:00] ppisati, approved noms [16:02] apw, pushed unstable, starting build tests [16:18] rtg, ta [16:54] ppisati, infinity: we've adjusted the initrd and kernel addresses in the u-boot env to fix this issue. It should be part of 2.4.x firmware. === fmasi is now known as fmasi_afk [17:15] ppisati: Erk. Fun. Can you remind me about it in a few days? I'm about to run and catch a plane today and lose all context. [17:15] robher: Adjusting it in firmware means we don't need to care about the boot.scr hack, or...? === fmasi_afk is now known as fmasi === fmasi is now known as fmasi_afk [18:16] * apw wanders to another room === psivaa is now known as psivaa-afk [19:22] * rtg -> lunch [21:52] hey guys i have a question about kernels i am so ocnfused maybe someone can shoot me in the right direction [22:02] Psil0Cybin, you will do well to actually ask that question [22:03] then we can work out who knows etc [22:14] okay [22:14] i have kernel number 3.2.0-55-generic-pae [22:14] apw: my question is i used dist-upgrade got a new kernel, it caused a blackscreen i tried nomodeset [22:14] did not work i tried all other paremeters did not work [22:14] someone suggested to ry a mainline kernel [22:15] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-trusty/ [22:15] is this the newest kernel for my build? [22:16] Psil0Cybin, its the newest one you want to try. anything newer is getting pretty steamy. [22:16] okay perfect so im installing it [22:16] and im getting this [22:16] http://pastebin.com/nE5xGHee [22:16] is that normal or is it because i did not instead the headers yet? [22:17] Psil0Cybin, its benign (unless you have an rtl device that requires this firmware) [22:17] okay thanks [22:17] jesus im new :P so im trying to learn ahah [22:17] you guys are so helpful i wish i could get everyone @ #ubuntu a giftbasket. [22:17] then we'd all get fat :) [22:18] hahahahahha [22:18] okay so now im installing the headers [22:18] and im set to test :) [22:23] rtg: i installed the header and im getting this messages [22:23] http://pastebin.com/wDhkxQGF [22:24] Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.12.0-031200-generic (i686) [22:24] Consult /var/lib/dkms/cedarview-drm/20120717/build/make.log for more information. [22:25] Psil0Cybin, I don't know what cedarview-drm is, but it clear;y doesn't like those kernel headers [22:25] cedarview is my graphic driver [22:25] which is why i am getting a blackscreen i assume [22:25] likely [22:25] darn [22:26] so it looks like no kernel will work for me other then what i am using now [22:26] 3.2.0-55-generic-pae [22:26] yeah, its unlikely kernels newer then 3.2 will work. [22:27] so what do i do..if i have an acer aspire one, d270-1628 i do not want new features [22:27] but i want to make sure i am always secure [22:27] when it comes to security issues. [22:27] 3.2 is supported for 5 years from 12.04 [22:27] oh eally for now? [22:28] so im fine for 5 years [22:28] just i should save up for better hardware? [22:28] indeed [22:28] sigh [22:28] alright [22:28] so now next question if i go out and buy a laptop what laptop can i buy to insure that i get good quality support from ubuntu [22:28] when it comes to kernel and drivers. [22:28] system76 [22:29] system76? [22:29] dell pre-installed [22:29] oh really dell? [22:29] is a good machine for ubuntu? [22:29] only those that come pre-insatlled with ubuntu [22:29] okay but lets say i get a pre installed version does it come with the drivers on a usb or something incase i want to format later? [22:30] or just the hardware is really good one those when it comes to support [22:30] for the linux community. [22:30] a little of both [22:30] alright sigh i wish i knew this before hand [22:31] i just got this laptop...and now i find out when it comes to linux its garbage because intel is shittay [22:31] its small netbook i wanted to run xubuntu on forever :) [22:31] well, whats wrong with the bits that came on it ? you're good until 17.04 [22:31] anyway, I'm EOD [22:32] * rtg -> EOD