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jibelGood morning06:00
pittiGood morning06:00
DanChapmanmorning all :-)09:07
jibelMornig DanChapman09:17
jibel+n :)09:17
jibelDanChapman, I haven't identified why custom_install fails yet, perhaps AP is not waiting long enough at the end of the test.09:18
jibelDanChapman, for the moment the lab is down, I'll have a look when it comes back up.09:19
DanChapmanMorning jibel, ahh you maybe right as the test currently finishes once the 'finished dialog' appears. I'll uncomment the code that clicks restart and see if that makes a difference.09:21
DanChapmanok cool :-)09:21
DanChapmanjibel I didn't know edubuntu had extra install pages, hence it's failing. So i will get that sorted :-)09:23
jibelDanChapman, I didn't know either, I haven't installed it for a while.09:23
DanChapmanjibel, yeah it gives options for desktop choice unity/gnome fallback or to use as LTSP so I suppose all those options will need exploring09:24
jibelDanChapman, I'd like to create a project ubiquity-autopilot and push the runner and your tests there. I think it's more flexible than merging everything into ubiquity, less work for the already busy installer team and easier to collaborate than personal branches. What do you think?09:25
DanChapmanjibel sounds perfect, i was going to bring that up at the vUDS session. So go for it :-)09:26
jibelDanChapman, good, I'll do that.09:27
jibelhm, unless we merge that into the more general ubuntu-autopilot-tests. I'll ask balloons opinion.09:31
DanChapmanjibel, I think that might make a bit more sense and keeps it all in one place, what about it's own series in ubuntu-autopilot-tests? Would the production tests still end up in lp:ubiquity or no longer live there?09:40
xnoxjibel: i'd very much against it. Instead DanChapman should be added to the team and push branches to lp:ubiquity.10:00
xnoxjibel: if the tests are seprate they will be forever out of sync from ubiquity development / changes.10:00
xnoxjibel: and shouldn't the autopilot tests be packaged? since one would want to run tests from matching version numbers of autopilot tests against matching ubiquity package.10:01
jibelxnox, agreed, it makes perfect sense to add the tests to ubiquity but I think the runner shouldn't. It is a general purpose runner and we could use it for ubuntu-applications autopilot tests too with a few changes.10:15
jibelif we package the tests then we should package the runner too10:16
xnoxjibel: would the runner be something I can run? e.g. similar to lp:auto-package-testing, cause I do want to validate changes against the autopackage tests.10:17
xnox(locally before merging/uploading)10:17
jibelxnox, yes, you can easily run locally, the command is something like: ./run-ubiquity-test --sdl -t ubiquity_autopilot_tests.tests.test_english_default ~/iso/edubuntu/trusty-dvd-amd64.iso10:18
jibelchange the iso to test another flavor10:19
* DanChapman goes to see what the --sdl does10:20
jibelDanChapman, it displays an sdl window instead of using vnc, so you can actually see the desktop10:23
DanChapmanxnox it would be handy to be able to push to lp:ubiquity, currently ive been using junk branches before pushing to my ubiquity branch so the jenkins tests don't break etc before i've tested them locally.10:28
* DanChapman promises not to touch anything else in lp:ubiquity ;-)10:28
xnoxDanChapman: do you know how filter email?10:29
xnoxDanChapman: adding to installer team results in hundreds of bug emails with all installer packages bugs.10:29
DanChapmanjibel awesome! thats a bit easier than commenting out the VNC in run-ubiquity-test :-)10:29
DanChapmanxnox yeah I can sort that out easily enough :-)10:30
xnoxDanChapman: ok.10:30
xnoxDanChapman: can you please add your email address to your launchpad account? And set bzr launchpad-id locally? you can hide your email from public, but at the moment it's not linked to your profile and is in plain sight.10:39
xnoxhttps://code.launchpad.net/~dpniel/ubiquity/autopilot/+merge/19220810:39
DanChapmanxnox I already have my email on there https://launchpad.net/~dpniel and have the same email set for bzr launchpad-login10:47
xnoxDanChapman: hm, strange. not sure why launchpad doesn't "linkify" your commits then =(10:49
xnoxjibel: DanChapman: where is the runner? =)11:04
jibelxnox, in my junk :)11:04
* xnox wants to run this.11:04
DanChapmanlp:~jibel/+junk/ubiquity-autopilot-runner11:04
xnoxjibel: excellent!11:05
jibelxnox, hence the urgent need to put it somewhere more persistent11:05
xnoxDanChapman: jibel: am I correct that this is not using python3-autopilot? Is it 1.4 autopilot api compatible?11:05
DanChapmanxnox it's not python 3 yet but it is 1.4 compatible :-)11:06
xnoxDanChapman: i think i will port it to python3, as ubiquity as a whole is python3.11:06
xnoxjibel: bzr joined the history of your junk runner.11:08
xnox(that is preserving rich history / all commits)11:09
xnoxDanChapman: jibel: i've added both of you to the installer team, such that you have commit access to lp:ubiquity for autopilot tests.11:11
xnoxDanChapman: jibel: please still use merge proposal if you can, to review each others work.11:12
xnoxDanChapman: jibel: also please do execute "./debian/rules clean" which will validate syntax throughout the project (pyflakes3, pep8, pycompile3, shell no-exec) to keep the project in buildable state at all times.11:13
DanChapmanxnox, sure thing :-)11:13
xnoxDanChapman: it's broken at the moment =) the ./debian/rules clean bit. I'll fix it up in a moment.11:14
jibelxnox, thanks!11:14
xnoxjibel: is there any example / recommendation how you'd want it to be packaged?11:14
xnox(to match other -autopiloty packages?!)11:15
DanChapmanxnox, ok cool thanks :-)11:17
jibelxnox, not really, you can use unity-autopilot as reference11:17
jibelxnox, tests should be discoverable by autopilot without being in the source tree apart from that I don't know if there is any other constraint11:18
xnoxack.11:19
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DanChapmanpitti, I'm getting constant output like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6405031/ when running any Gtk tests with ap 1.4. The tests still run fine, it does seem a little sluggish selecting objects, do you want a bug filed or do you already know about it??12:30
pittiDanChapman: ah, these are from properties which we cannot introspect12:30
pittiDanChapman: so they are mainly useful to track down their actual data type, but they would indeed be more useful if they woudl show the property name12:31
pittiDanChapman: please feel free to create a bug about it; but that shouldn't be the cause for being sluggish12:31
DanChapmanpitti, ack , thanks12:32
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balloonshowdy jibel DanChapman15:09
jibelHey balloons, how are you?15:11
balloonspretty good, I take it you also enjoyed the extra day of rest15:12
jibelI did, even if it was a wet day :)15:17
balloonswell I washed the auto, so mine was wet too, hah!15:19
knomeballoons, ai caramba...15:25
balloonsknome, afternoon too you15:25
balloons*to15:25
knomeballoons, good evening!15:26
knomeballoons, and good news; we're moving to a bigger flat in a month, and i'll get my own work/music room! \o/15:26
balloonsoO! nice nice nice15:27
balloonsI didn' t know you created music15:27
knomelol15:27
knomeno, i listen to it!15:27
knomebut music as in... room for listening music15:27
knomeand sometimes, i know it sounds horrible and unbelievable... i work!15:27
* knome gasps15:27
balloonsknome, indeed.. I have a nice set of bookshelf speakers, but no longer have a nice amp to power them.  Or a room to use them in15:32
knomeballoons, duh. :) well i don't have such systems, but still... it's a room to listen music in :)15:35
knomei do have 6.1 speakers that i can plug to my pc15:35
knomethough i suppose i won't do that, because the pc keeps noise15:35
knomebut still...15:35
balloonsyea.. it's just interesting how much I use the pc to listen to music, whereas a decade ago that was not the case15:36
knomeyup; i'm actively trying to get rid of that habit15:37
knomewhat matters more is that it's silent enough to not have to put the music on too loud15:38
knomethan how hi-tech my equipment is..15:38
* balloons turns on music15:38
balloonsyou can hear it without blasting it.. lovely15:38
knomei'll need a new chair, and a comfy chair15:38
knomeballoons, http://www.masku.com/app/masku/public/thumb/188/content/520x500/Focus-2-leather-1416x800px-72dpi.jpg15:41
knomehave been dreaming of a chair kind of like that15:41
balloonsmm.. they are quite nice. I have something like this: http://www.mariescorner.com/website2013/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/maries-corner-sofa-Long-Chair-biais-mauve-900x563.jpg15:42
knomeoi :D15:42
knometoo comfy, i'll fall asleep on such15:42
SergioMenesesmorning!15:44
SergioMenesesknome, balloons \o15:44
knomehey SergioMeneses15:44
balloonsSergioMeneses, buenos dias15:45
knomeballoons, how's that... http://www.isku.fi/Image/products/30814-001-00000_7.jpg15:45
knomeballoons, too bad the price tag is around 1500€ :D15:45
balloonsoooo.. it's like the office meets the reading room15:45
balloonsI like it.15:45
knomeballoons, exactly!15:45
knomethat's what i'm looking for15:45
SergioMenesesknome, balloons do you need a new couch?15:46
balloonsSergioMeneses, knome is looking for a chair15:47
knomeneed... no, not really. want... yes15:47
balloonsheh, yes.. want indeed15:47
knomei'm getting a work room, and i'm looking for a comfy chair to take breaks in15:47
SergioMenesesjajaja15:48
knomeballoons, http://www.asko.fi/tuotekuvat/tuote/lenni_lt_rahi_das_siniha.png15:49
knomethat's "only" ~1000€15:49
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balloonshmm.. footstool or not15:49
knomenow cut *that* price in half, and take some off..15:49
knomewouldn't mind that15:49
balloons"only" ~100015:49
knomecan be used as another bench if needed15:49
knomehttp://www.asko.fi/tuotekuvat/tuote/tivoli_lt_board_graf.png15:50
knomethat's not bad looking either, 900€...15:50
balloonsthat looks comfortable.. but something is out of place with it15:50
balloonsmaybe the stand?15:50
knomei know i know! the price15:50
balloonshaha15:50
balloonsthat's a given!15:50
knomehehe15:50
knomeballoons, have experience on saddle chairs?15:57
knomei suppose i should get one...15:57
balloonsbackless? my music prof had one15:58
SergioMenesesknome, balloons please go to work!15:58
* SergioMeneses runs15:58
knomeballoons, yeah, backless...15:58
knomehttp://www.sotka.fi/tuotteet/uploaded/images/nojatuolit/twin_lt_berna_ru.jpg15:58
knomegetting there on the price point (300€), but the design is lacking15:59
knomeSergioMeneses, hah. :P16:01
SergioMenesesknome, jeje I am fixing a issue with zimbra http://vavai.net/2008/10/change-ip-address-of-zimbra-mailserver-how-to-resolve-the-problem/16:01
knomegood luck16:02
DanChapmanhowdy balloons, how's it going?16:04
balloonsDanChapman, hello good sir16:04
SergioMenesesknome, it's done!16:06
SergioMenesesDanChapman, \o16:07
DanChapmanSergioMeneses, o/16:07
balloonsI see you've gotten commit access to the installer :-)16:11
DanChapmanballoons, indeed :-)16:12
DanChapmanballoons, have you come across this before http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406065/16:13
DanChapmanjibel ^^ thats what i'm getting user the runner out of lp:ubiquity16:13
DanChapmanusing*16:14
xnoxDanChapman: well, I force converted it to python3-autopilot and python3-x11 but i haven't actually tested it. I didn't expect it to work out of the box.16:15
xnoxDanChapman: looks like python3-autopilot fails to find gtk* anything.16:15
xnoxDanChapman: looks like X didn't start or refusing our connections the right fix is to specify full path to display, or brute force it with xhost +16:18
balloonsDanChapman, on the desktop?16:18
xnoxDanChapman: I'll look into it further later.16:18
DanChapmanxnox, ok thanks that would be great. it's completely stumped me. Also i had an issue with python3-autopilot looking for python-autopilot-trace and not the installed python3-autopilot-trace. Will look into that a bit further16:21
DanChapmanballoons, yeah :-(16:21
spineauballoons: ping16:28
balloonsspineau, pong16:29
spineauballoons: hello, I know that you're already attending http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/21988/core-1311-checkbox-rebirth/16:29
spineauballoons: in fact I'm looking for people having a bit of knowledge in the process of promoting a package from universe to main16:30
spineauballoons: any ideas?16:30
spineauballoons: well we need first to go to universe with our new packages but We'd like to have an idea of the schedule16:30
spineauballoons: as we'll replace checkbox (pieces by pieces) with a full rewrite (plainbox)16:31
balloonsspineau, #ubuntu-devel I suspect would have more answers. you need someone from the core team to help you do that16:32
balloonsany motu can get you into universe16:32
senanDanChapman, Good Eve!! thanks for the comments16:33
jibelspineau, this doc might help you with the process https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess16:33
DanChapmansenan hey there how are you?16:33
spineauballoons: jibel: indeed, thank you16:33
senanDanChapman, I'm good.. thanks16:33
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senanDanChapman, Just came home after work.. how are you ?16:34
DanChapmansenan, i'm good thanks :-)16:36
senan_DanChapman, I'm changing all Equals(1) to True16:39
senan_DanChapman, I've a doubt16:57
senan_Danchapman, entry = self.app.select_single('GtkFileChooserEntry')16:58
senan_ with self.keyboard.focused_type(entry) as kb:, what it will do ?16:58
DanChapmansenan_, by pass ing the entry box to focused_type autopilot will automatically get the entries focus16:59
senan_ok17:01
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jibelDanChapman, after an xhost + to disable access control I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406317/17:10
DanChapmanjibel ahh thats from where xnox's cleanup removed the unused imports that needed to be there for the emulators to work. I will fix that up :-)17:19
jibelDanChapman, I'll fix access control then :)17:19
DanChapmanawesome :-)17:20
xnoxDanChapman: ah, sorry. In that case can you add them to tests/pyflakes.exclude ?17:22
DanChapmanxnox no worries :-) I will do that then, thanks17:22
jibelDanChapman, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406413/17:26
elfyballoons: ping17:29
balloonselfy, pong17:29
elfyhi balloons - need the official line on something - and no facepalming where I can't see you :)17:29
elfywhat is the official canonical stance on gksu/do ...17:30
elfyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/125056017:30
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1250560 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Use of gksudo/gksu in testcases for Xubuntu Desktop in Trusty Daily " [Undecided,New]17:30
balloonsmm.. I won't claim an official stance on anything. BUT, indeed gksudo should be phased out17:39
balloonscan you not simply sudo17:39
balloons?17:39
elfyto be replaced with ? is the issue at hand17:39
elfywell you can - but then there are all the 'the world will end if you use sudo with gui apps' warnings scattered everywhere17:40
elfyI can't find the m/l post I read about it now either :(17:40
balloonsA quick AU search brought me this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default-in-13-0417:40
balloonsgksudo afaik did more than just privelege escalation, and I'm not sure it survived the migration to gnome317:41
elfyballoons: yea - I've been looking all over the place17:41
elfyballoons: sudo -i is the closest I've got so far :)17:42
balloonsI'm not sure why we would need gksudo anywhere17:42
balloonsahh, so I see the test17:43
balloonsroot warning check for mousepad..anything else?17:43
elfyI'm not sure why it's there either, not read it properly yet17:43
elfynot sure - I'm going to trawl our stuff17:43
balloonsk. I suspect it's not much of an issue.. but yea, let's drop gksudo if we are ok with it :-)17:44
elfy:)17:44
elfyballoons: I knew I should have checked the forum first - if nothing else I have a timestamp to a post and reference to a -dev conversation :)17:48
balloonsyep.. forums got you covered17:49
elfyballoons: seems sudo su -c $program or sudo -i17:53
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elfyballoons: I checked, just the one instance I could find, proposed merge for it20:02
balloonsnice20:03
elfyI'd finish it all off myself - but think it's best to have someone at least look :)20:05
balloonsi'll look quickly and you can finisg20:08
elfyok20:10
balloonskk20:13
elfyok - I'll go ahead then20:13
elfyballoons: all done20:23
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balloonselopio, how's this coming? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/124565122:28
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1245651 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "confirm_removal() emulator function fails with statenotfound error" [Undecided,In progress]22:28

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