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shakes808Good evening all02:12
rick_h_party02:13
shakes808had a question about the cloud computing stuff.  Anyone use it?02:13
wafyep. people do.02:13
waf:P02:13
shakes808haha02:13
shakes808do you people do?02:13
wafi've used EC2 and azure02:13
shakes808I am looking at Cloud 902:14
wafoh, the IDE? i've not much experience with that02:14
wafi think i imported a github repo into it, that was kind of cool02:14
shakes808I have been trying to find a community area for it.02:14
shakes808Yeah, I am looking into that. I logged in via Github and trying to do some simple stuff, but isn't working for me02:15
shakes808The cookie cutter "Hello World" stuff works02:16
shakes808but when I tried to do some Python web stuff, it didn't seem to work.02:16
waflike this sort of thing? http://support.cloud9ide.com/forums/20335288-Questions-Answers02:16
shakes808unless, most case it is me, I did something wrong... but can't find any where to find people02:17
shakes808I did see their forums02:17
shakes808but there is supposed to be a way to have people in the Cloud 9 community come into your project and do a collabedit type thing02:17
wafmaybe try asking in #cloud9ide02:24
shakes808I went there and tried a bunch of others, no one was there. Will try again.02:25
shakes808.... :| maybe didn't load properly when I went there the first time.02:26
shakes808ty02:26
shakes808:D02:26
rick_h_greg-g: ok, updated with ping support and loading existing bookmark data.02:39
rick_h_widox_: ^^02:39
rick_h_https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bookie/03:31
greg-grick_h_: sweet03:33
greg-gjust bmark.us'd the addon page :)03:33
rick_h_lmorchard|away: come on, you know you want to check it out :P03:33
rick_h_greg-g: very cool!03:33
rick_h_greg-g: thank waf and widox_ for getting it going. I owe them beverages.03:34
wafi think i was already paid in pizza, so you can give widox_ an extra :)03:34
rick_h_lol03:34
greg-gwaf: widox_ thanks guys :)03:35
rick_h_well, it's a start. I'm not sure how to sync/track bookmarks still.03:35
rick_h_and no tag widget, just a textbox with spaces03:35
rick_h_or delete, or ... *sigh*03:35
rick_h_anyway, part on. Will hack some more at MUG tomorrow.03:37
rick_h_party on that is03:37
greg-g:)03:48
greg-ghmm, it stopped working :/03:49
jrwrencloud?!?!?03:59
jrwrenzomg shakes808 asks about clouds?!?!03:59
jrwrenshakes808: yes, that is what we do :)03:59
cmaloneyhttp://openmetalcast.com/2013/11/11/open-metalcast-84-the-wave-of-the-voyage/04:15
rick_h_greg-g: hmm, stopped working how?12:21
rick_h_morning and all that12:22
cmaloneyGood morning12:43
jjessemorning cmaloney13:38
jrwrenwhew, that was a huge SEMJS13:57
jrwrenalmost 90 attendees even with the snow.13:57
brouschSE MI Javascript?13:58
jrwrenyes.13:58
brouschlucky guess13:58
jrwrenformerly known as blazix was there :)13:58
rick_h_jrwren: hah, cool13:58
rick_h_everyone all sold on emberjs now?13:58
jrwreni don't know.14:00
jrwreni tried ember a while back. i tried to give it 2hrs or so of learning and there were just too many walls.14:00
jrwrenthis cleared some things up.14:00
rick_h_yea, it's a beast of a thing14:00
jrwrensomeone said its less magic than angular, which I found surprising14:01
brouschI thought angular is the answer14:01
rick_h_yea, angular is all magic imo. Rails magic in JS land14:01
jrwreni see.14:01
jrwrenso I know some guys who love angular14:01
jrwrenbut I also know some guys who love ember.14:01
jrwreni have no care either way.14:02
brouschpick a side!\14:02
jrwrennever.14:08
rick_h_hate everything!14:08
jrwrennever.14:08
jrwrenwell, definitely14:08
jrwrenbut, this is different. I do not work in that world.14:08
rick_h_woot, wheels are out for delivery. Come on snow tires14:10
cmaloneyHeh14:24
cmaloneyhttp://paste.mitechie.com/show/Tr3BK6Z3XS5qX3YZaEm8/ <- huh huh huh huh14:25
rick_h_long live the nook...I mean it's all over nook14:26
cmaloneyActually it was a subscription to the Economist that I barely got 10 pages from the Table of Contents in any issue.14:28
cmaloneyLove the magazine, but have no time to sit and process it14:28
rick_h_heh14:31
jrwrenrick_h_: you swap the tires yourself?14:35
rick_h_jrwren: no, just had to order special wheels. Will take in friday to get things mounted, balanced, and I'm having htem store the summer tires for me14:36
jrwrencool14:38
rick_h_I like things nice and smooth and don't have the stuff to do wheel balancing/etc here14:38
rick_h_now if I had a real shop..maybe14:38
jrwrenyeah, I wondered.15:01
jrwreni guess and annual balance is a good idea.15:01
jrwrenif you did it at home, my next question was, do you have an impact wrench? :)15:01
rick_h_well the touareg is really finicky with that. I'm actually nervous as I had issue when I got it new15:02
rick_h_heh, no, thought about it, but not gotten one yet. With the trailer though I might get one next summer15:02
=== widox_ is now known as widox
greg-grick_h_: when I clicked the icon on thebottom bar, nothing happened (whereas before it brought up the save dialog)16:31
greg-gg'morning all16:31
rick_h_greg-g: :( ok. hate to ask this but restart FF and it still does it?16:32
* rick_h_ makes a note to check error conditions, etc. 16:32
greg-ggimme a minute, that's like restarting one's computer ;)16:33
rick_h_greg-g: welcome alpha tester!16:33
greg-gI love alpha testings16:33
greg-g-s16:33
cmaloneyI'm pretty much coonvinced the VW is going to be almost 100% dealer-serviced.16:44
cmaloneysave for collision work.16:45
rick_h_cmaloney: yea, well not for wheels!16:45
rick_h_cmaloney: they gave me a heart attack when I tried to order wheels from them16:46
rick_h_cmaloney: but agree with you. Not going to risk taking the thing some places that doesn't have lots of experience with them. They're just different enough16:46
greg-gyou should live somewhere other than Michigan, non-Michigan cars are known entities elsewhere ;)16:47
greg-g(I kid! I miss Michigan soooo much)16:47
greg-gor Minnesota, or Wisconsin, one of the great lakes states16:47
rick_h_greg-g: yea, I felt special with the subaru until we'd go to VA and see them all over there16:47
greg-gor just Ann Arbor, really :)16:48
rick_h_:P16:48
greg-gugh, loud coffee shop is loud16:51
rick_h_greg-g: :( peets was like that yesterday. Mad I forgot headphones16:52
cmaloneygreg-g: Yeah, well I wouldn't trust some of these grease-monkeys to know the difference between imperial and metric16:53
cmaloneyand try their damndest to do on-the-fly conversion16:54
cmaloneyaka strip the bolt to make it fit.16:54
greg-gagain, ann arbor :)16:54
cmaloneyYeah, in Ann Arbor every mechanic has a masters in engineering16:56
cmaloney:-P16:56
rick_h_oooh, ouch16:56
cmaloney(and they still can't do metric conversions. ;))16:56
greg-g'tis true, the job market sucks ;)16:57
* rick_h_ runs when my mechanic breaks out an HP calculator16:58
greg-gTI4LIF!16:59
rick_h_heh, just paid a bill and noticed it was 11/12/1317:10
greg-gyep :) make a wish17:10
rick_h_wahoo I use 8% more electricity than my neighbors17:12
rick_h_thanks DTE, that's need to know info17:12
greg-gshamming into conservation, usually works17:16
rick_h_ah, I just excuse myself. I work from home, have a bunch of computer equipment, I'd guess my 8% neighborhood hit is less than an office and pay my bill :)17:17
greg-g:)17:18
cmaloneyI fear for the guy that lives next to the neighborhood server room17:30
cmaloney"You use .001% of the electricity as the guy down the street that thinks he's running Google from a stack of 486s"17:31
cmaloney"you know, the guy who got the DEA to bust down his door because they thought he was growing weed."17:33
cmaloney"They couldn't stop laughing when they saw the tower of liquid-cooled Packard Bell machines".17:34
* greg-g looks shifty-eyed17:34
cmaloneygreg-g: You live in California. They'd probably cite you for not using electricity to grow weed. ;)17:35
cmaloneyand then give you a citation for not growing it organically17:35
greg-gone county up (Mendocino) and yeah, just about17:35
greg-git's where all the good weed comes from (so I'm told)17:36
cmaloneycool story bro17:37
cmaloney;)17:37
* greg-g looks shifty-eyed again17:38
cmaloneyJust set up a server room and it'll be alright.17:38
cmaloney"It's my hydroponic organic  beowulf cluster"17:39
greg-gonly turn it on when the feds come knocking? ('cuz the local guys don't care, given growing/possessing is legel here)17:39
greg-ghaha, yes17:39
wafjust got an unsolicited email from a recruiter titled "BOOM permanent developer position for you!!" asking for my resume as a microsoft word file.19:29
greg-ghaha19:29
wafas i'm sure you suspect, i'm madly scrambling to convert my latex resume to docx.19:29
greg-gis boom company or "BOOM!" onomatopiea19:30
wafonomatopiea. it's a recruiting company with many different java developer opportunities.19:30
greg-gheh19:31
cmaloneyI'm not sure I'd want to deal with a company that thinks the word "BOOM!" is a good thing for software development19:31
greg-goh man guys19:32
greg-gso, if a chinese user edits a page on zh.wikipedia.org that ends in ".exe" the GFW badly proxies it and gives them an error19:32
greg-gie: they end up here: http://60.13.74.166:83/1Q2W3E4R5T6Y7U8I9O0P1Z2X3C4V5B/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HTMLCODER.exe19:32
cmaloneyWow19:32
greg-gthat ip isn't ours, that's the Hainan province ISP's ip19:32
greg-ga chinese user can edit en.wikipedia.org urls that end in .exe though19:33
greg-gbad GFW regex somewhere19:33
greg-gthe GFW wants to filter er, mitm, any .exe downloads, apparently19:33
cmaloneyI'm surprised there's a wikipedia page format that allows .exe19:33
greg-gyeah, we're pretty lax19:33
greg-ghttps://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TESTPAGE.exe19:34
cmaloneyThat said the way Microsoft can turn just about any three letter extension into an executable it's probably better to just disallow extensions19:34
cmaloneybut that likely == breaky breaky19:34
cmaloneyDoes it do the same for .pif?19:35
greg-gthey're just HTML pages, so the php sends the right mimetype to the user (html) not eg: exe19:35
greg-gthe apache server, whatever19:35
cmaloneynope.19:36
greg-gwould work, apparenty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TESTPAGE.pif19:36
cmaloney.pif doesn't have the same page.19:36
greg-gwell, the account doesn't exist19:36
cmaloneyRight19:37
greg-gyou can register cmaloney.pif if you want :)19:37
greg-gwell, it'd be Cmaloney.pif (first letter upper case requirement :/ )19:37
cmaloneyThis page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.19:37
cmaloney19:33, 12 November 2013 Nick (talk | contribs) deleted page User:TESTPAGE.exe (G2: Test page)19:37
greg-gheh, yeah, not leaving around test pages I guess19:37
greg-gdeletionists19:37
greg-g:)19:37
cmaloneyrevisionist. ;)19:37
greg-gwikipedians are ALL revisionists ;)19:38
greg-gbbiab, lunch19:39
cmaloneylunchionist19:39
jrwrencmaloney: you hate over compression on recent audio releases, right?19:42
jcastrocmaloney, heya19:42
jcastrowe have nbested categories now19:43
jcastrojust waiting for the domain now19:43
jrwrencmaloney: give Celldweller - Birthright from Wish Upon A Blackstar a listen and tell me abou tit.19:43
jcastrowe'll probably go live in a week19:43
cmaloneyjrwren: Yeah, I'm not a fan of compression19:56
cmaloneyjcastro: orly? On Discourse?19:56
jcastroya19:57
cmaloneyjrwren: I'm actually thinking of re-buying Carcass' Swansong because it's now in a Full Dynamic Range edition19:57
cmaloneyhttp://earache.bandcamp.com/album/swansong-full-dynamic-range-edition19:57
jrwrennice.19:57
cmaloneyBought the Mp3s a while back, but it's a fucking great album that deserves some class-A treatment.19:57
cmaloneyjrwren: God, Klayton really lost his way19:59
cmaloneyCould also be Youtube compression, but yikes19:59
cmaloneyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UPCLR8-Aeo19:59
cmaloneyI'm kinda glad I didn't go overboard on the pre-order20:01
cmaloneyTHing is it's not a bad song20:01
cmaloneyBut all the power gets neutered20:02
jrwrencmaloney: agree.  poor Klayton20:03
jrwrenyeah, i haven't listened to this album in a while but that track in particular the compression was insanely noticible20:04
jrwrenits like the producer didn't even listen to it.20:04
jrwrenits sad because I think it would be a lot better if done differently20:04
cmaloneyDid he produce it? He's been notorious for being an extreme DIY when it comes to his sound.20:05
jrwrenyes, I think he did.20:05
jrwrenhe put out a whole making of bonus CD20:06
jrwrenit really focusses on 2 of the tracks.20:06
cmaloneyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wish_Upon_a_Blackstar#Personnel20:06
cmaloneyThe Celldweller Detroit Mass Choir - additional vocals on "It Makes No Difference Who We Are"20:06
jrwrenwhat does that even mean?20:10
cmaloneyI think he got some locals together20:11
cmaloneyjcastro: http://ubuntu-discourse.org/category/local-teams/ubuntu-michigan <- Our Forum Link points to the proper discourse spot20:11
greg-gwhat is this?20:14
cmaloneyIt's a new forum.20:20
cmaloneyGod, I'd love to know how I can fuck up posting podcasts. ;)20:21
cmaloney(pretty well, apparently)20:21
jcastrocmaloney, it's going to be discourse.ubuntu.com/blah20:23
jcastrobut we'll have rewrites20:23
jcastrohttp://ubuntu-discourse.org/t/should-updates-to-subcategories-be-shown-in-the-latest-stream/117320:23
jcastroIMO we should have them fix this ^^^20:23
cmaloneyjcastro: OK, LMK when it changes and I'll update the link20:24
jcastroyeah20:25
cmaloneyFunny enough, the last link for our forum was to the mailing list.20:25
cmaloneyalso: Apparently feedburner will let you update other folks feeds.20:25
cmaloneyie: I had a metal injection post that had the wrong episode20:26
cmaloneybut apparently I can "ping" it20:26
cmaloneyand update the feed, even though I don't own it.20:26
rick_h_go waf go23:37
cmaloneyw00t!23:42

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