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topper4125all settings, and all the "good stuff" is for the most part stored in /home... so If you have /home on a seperate partition, if anything happens to the OS, your data is safe... always a good idea to have them seperate (and frequent backups...) I don't see anyway of saving anything there... hopefully someone else does...00:00
asjjohnsonwhat's up dudes. something really weird just happened  I'm using ubuntu 12.04 (cinnamon DE) and chrome has went full screen  i can't exit without using killall00:00
np8asjjohnson: Try F11?00:00
asjjohnson@np8 yeah it jas no effect00:01
np8asjjohnson: ok00:01
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np8topper4125: No it is not on separate partition, but I will guarantee doing that next time. Thanks for the help anyways.00:02
prasselpikachubye all, thanks to minimec, he helped me a lot!00:02
np8Maybe ill just do a fresh install from live-cd00:02
asjjohnsoncrap. whats the cmd to restart x? i cant remember00:02
Shirakawasunatripelb: which version of ubuntu are you running?00:02
minimecprasselpikachu: no problem.00:02
minimecprasselpikachu: n800:02
topper4125I think that's your best bet np8, sorry to hear about the errors :(00:02
prasselpikachun800:02
topper4125asjjohnson, does alt-f4 close the window (not exactly a solution, but at least your not having to send a kill cmd00:03
asjjohnsonjust a sec00:03
np8topper4125: By the way, do you know, that how can you see if a program is not going to continue executing anymore, after it has "gone gray" ?00:03
Shirakawasunatripelb: I ask because there are several bug reports / issues with similar errors that were resolved by updating either ubuntu entirely or v4l2loopback specifically00:03
asjjohnsonnada00:03
prophitI was apt-get installing ubuntu-desktop when my drive ran out of space. How can I apt-get remove whichever pieces of ubuntu-desktop got installed already? I tried 'sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop' but I get an error "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.". When I run dpkg --configure -a, it just tries to continue installing the desktop.00:03
Shirakawasunatripelb: also installing guvcview00:03
topper4125No i don't np800:04
k1l_asjjohnson: sudo service lightdm restart00:04
np8topper4125: My ubuntu 13.10 upgrade did turn gray (after 20% or so), and i checked from the system manager, that nothing "happens" there, and decided to reboot. I was not a good idea then.00:04
cpinedapofis: any idea's?00:04
asjjohnsonis lightdm cinnamon? that's the de im using00:04
Shirakawasunaprophit: the safest thing to do is to free up space, then install ubuntu-desktop, then autoremove or purge it.00:05
topper4125Guess it wasn't...00:05
Shirakawasunaprophit: If that's totally unacceptable, you can force remove packages with dpkg. This is fairly risky so I recommend the first option.00:05
Shirakawasunaprophit: You can get a list of what you recently installed by checking /var/log/apt/history.log00:06
k1l_asjjohnson: lightdm is the standard dm for ubuntu. the dm starts the x-server for you and manages the desktops (its the loginscreen basically)00:06
asjjohnsonfacepalm00:06
topper4125Would the purge command help prophit? (Asking anyone else, cuz I'm just guessing in the dark)00:06
lesocraticHello00:09
basichashHow can I restart the audio software?00:10
lesocraticI want translate Ubuntu in fon language. How can I do it ?00:10
asjjohnson@k1I_ that restarted my system but its hanging on the ubuntu logo00:10
topper4125!translate | lesocratic00:10
ubottulesocratic: Translate Ubuntu into your own language, important translations that are needed are listed first. See https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/00:10
asjjohnsonwtf00:10
JordanJ21Hello, I have a Secure Boot EUFI enabled PC do I have to do anything to install ubuntu?00:11
basichashI killed a python process and now my audio isn't working00:11
prophitShirakawasuna: I've done some cleaning and am trying to let dpkg --configure -a fix apt-get first. I doubt I've been able to make enough room. What's the dpkg command to force remove ubuntu-desktop?00:11
topper4125!uefi00:11
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI00:11
asjjohnsonim just gonna turn it off and on again lol00:11
basichashany ideas?00:12
lesocraticubottu: I don't have the fon language in this list.00:12
ubottulesocratic: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:12
JordanJ21topper4125: I've been reading that but in that it says "Create a LiveDVD or LiveUSB of Ubuntu (>=12.04.2) 64bit. " I want 13.1000:12
Shirakawasunaprophit: the purge and force-all flags. Read the man page so you know what they do. I'm not recommending that you do this until you've tried freeing up space and installing ubuntu-desktop. Is this an embedded system or micro vps or something?00:13
zykotick9JordanJ21: >= means, greater or equal to.  13.10 is > then 12.04 - so you're good00:13
prophitShirakawasuna: yes, it's a beaglebone black00:14
Shirakawasunaah00:14
JordanJ21I'm in the liveUSB now zykotick9 with no problems. Will that mean i'm ok?00:14
lesocraticubottu: How can I add unexisting language ?00:14
ubottulesocratic: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:14
zykotick9JordanJ21: i'm not sure what your doing actually... i was just commenting on the >=12.04.2 part ;)  best of luck.00:14
lesocraticubottu: ;)00:15
JordanJ21Aww00:15
apofiscpined: I assumed you dont have muted sound ? (just wanna be sure ;) )00:15
wolfy1339ubuntu isn't detecting my wifi adapter, Marvell 88W8797 (Avastar 350N). it worked before, but it just stopped working one day and i cou;dn't seem to get it to work00:15
JordanJ21I'm trying to install Ubuntu with eufi and secure boot enabled (dual boot with win8)00:15
* topper4125 hasn't used M$ since XP00:16
topper4125<--- doesn't even have wine installed00:16
cpinedapofis: I"M ALL RED IN THE FACE....is mute on by default?  cuz I clicked on the mute button and now I have glorious sound.00:16
zykotick9topper4125: fyi, you might want to see "/msg ubottu m$" for future... ;)00:16
topper4125Wow.. never knew that... I'll keep that in mind zykotick900:17
buck_hey guys I have a nexus 7 woot. what 2 files do I need for dual boot bootloader00:17
buck_hello?00:20
wolfy1339ubuntu isn't detecting my wifi adapter, Marvell 88W8797 (Avastar 350N). it worked before, but it just stopped working one day and i coudn't seem to get it to work....00:20
d_nukebroken adaptor?00:20
minimecbuck_: We read you, but probably #ubuntu-touch is the better #channel for this...00:21
topper4125buck try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation (also a couple youtube vids showing step by step00:21
buck_oh thanks.00:21
buck_can I update it, as there is a version already in00:21
buck_#ubuntu-touch00:22
minimecbuck_: /join #ubuntu-touch00:22
wolfy1339d_nuke, no... it works on windows.. and if i try to install the driver with "Windows Wireless Drivers", it says adapter present...00:22
topper4125buck: from what I'm reading, it is recommending you use 12.04, but 13.04 is avail.00:23
apofiswolfy1339:  are we talkign about PC box ? what version of Ubuntu do u use ?00:23
wolfy1339apofis, ubuntu 13.10, and yes it's MS Product00:24
pirrethi, when i install ubuntu (server) i get this list from where i can choose what to install, like sshd or lamp and so on, is there any way to run this selection screen manually after installation is done?00:24
apofiswolfy1339:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/116593800:24
ubottuUbuntu bug 1165938 in linux (Ubuntu) "1286:2044 [Microsoft Surface Pro] Marvell 88W8797 wifi does not work" [Medium,Incomplete]00:24
wolfy1339yes, that.. i had found a fix for it but that fix failed00:26
* topper4125 wonders if 10 people send a command to ubottu and she replied to all of them... if floodbot would freak out?00:26
apofiswolfy1339:  ndiswrapper should be a right solution here00:27
apofiswolfy1339:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/257600/marvells-wireless-driver-not-recognized00:27
wolfy1339i don't have wifi on ubuntu....00:27
tripelbShirakawasuna, Hi. back. I copied what you said so I can refer to it. I am running 12.04 on a 2002 dell. Interesting. I have had ubuntu get an internal error and ask me to restart maybe 4 times, not daily even. I had never had ubuntu do that, in years. But I ahve been having updates almost daily this week.00:27
apofiswolfy1339:  if it wont work try to not buy MS' products in a future ;)00:27
Shirakawasunatripelb: I've never encountered an 'internal error' in ubuntu.00:28
Shirakawasunatripelb: I would start checking your hardware. Run SMART tools for your hard drive and do a memtest00:29
Psil0Cybinhey guys if the newest kernel is not working for me, is it fine to use an outdated kernel by a version?00:30
Psil0Cybinwhat can i do to attempt to fix graphical problems within a kernel00:30
ShirakawasunaPsil0Cybin: yes that's fine00:31
JordanJ21Will I have any problems?00:31
topper4125Psil0Cybin, Its fine to use an older kernal if needed...00:31
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ShirakawasunaPsil0Cybin: make sure to keep the older version's package installed00:32
Psil0Cybinlike displaying a black screen after updating kernels, i have tried everything offered online and on the forums but i cannot get into it, so im stuck using an outdated kernel00:32
ShirakawasunaPsil0Cybin: Otherwise autoremove or purge will remove it eventually00:32
Psil0Cybinokay but is it safe to use an outdated kernel also if u use it does that mean no kernel from now on will work?00:32
apofisbe back later00:33
bekksPsil0Cybin: New security issues arent fixed in your version.00:33
Psil0Cybinokay but if the newest kernel does not work does that mean that other updates will cause the same problem?00:34
JordanJ21Will I have any problems installing ubuntu 13.10 with secure boot and eufi enabled?00:34
bekksPsil0Cybin: No.00:34
bekksPsil0Cybin: They might, they might not.00:35
Lexzuzwhatsup everyone00:36
Psil0Cybinbekks: so i can assume if this kernel is not working i can sit this one out typeand other kernel updates00:36
Psil0Cybinwould work?00:36
JordanJ21Anyone?00:36
Psil0Cybinor if this kernel is not working no other kernel upgrades will work00:36
bekksPsil0Cybin: No. I said: "they might work, they might not."00:36
bekksJordanJ21: Secure boot will not allow you to boot anything else but the OS currently in use - Windows.00:37
Psil0CybinOh bekks so what can i do to insure that i can diagnose and fix these issues, for later kernel releases00:37
Psil0Cybinor do i just stick to a kernel that works for me?00:38
bekksPsil0Cybin: Find out what exactly is causing your issue - or stick with the version you are on.00:38
topper4125Psil0Cybin, no one can guarentee what will and will not work in a kernal release... maybe everything will work next time, or maybe the screen issue will be fixed but bluetooth will be wonky... untill they are released... who knows... so the answer of "maybe, maybe not" is the best and most correct answer available.00:38
JordanJ21bekks: Will I have a problem if I switch eufi to legacy?00:39
bekksJordanJ21: Thats depends on the current setup.00:39
cpinedhello, any reason why Parole has issues playing back DVD's?00:39
JordanJ21I have windows 8 installed00:39
bekksJordanJ21: Yes, I know. Still, no one can tell you "yes/no" to that last question.00:40
Psil0Cybinbekks: my graphic is causing the issue, after the grub menu and the xubuntu splash screen i get a blackscreen and it only goes away after restarting 5 - 10 times, and hoping that one time it works00:40
JordanJ21What can I do to make Ubuntu work?00:40
Psil0Cybinso i am stuck restarting over and over again or using an outdated kernel in order to get my GUI working00:40
bekksPsil0Cybin: "my graphic" is very, very generic.00:41
Psil0Cybinit says no screens found in Xorg.000:41
Psil0Cybinsays it cannot find a driver00:41
Psil0Cybinand goes to a blackscreen or a text terminal00:41
ShirakawasunaPsil0Cybin: Use an older kernel00:41
bekksPsil0Cybin: "it" isnt much more detailed as "my graphic".00:41
ShirakawasunaPsil0Cybin: Or try a newer one00:41
topoyiyohi00:41
minimeccpined: Is libdvdcss installed? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs00:41
bekksPsil0Cybin: Did you use the nomodeset kernel option?00:41
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Psil0Cybinyes the nomodeset kernal option worked until i made it perminant then it did not work00:42
Psil0Cybinso someone tried to do vesafb.nonsense=1 and that too did not fix anything.. it was still a chance game00:42
bekksPsil0Cybin: So you did something wrong when making it permanent.00:42
topper4125Psil0Cybin, any chance its this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96554700:42
JordanJ21bekks: To clarify I HAVE to swich EUFI to Legacy to boot Ubuntu? I have both EUFI and Secure Boot on and it's working fine00:43
bekksJordanJ21: Yes, Ubuntu will not boot using secure boot.00:43
Psil0Cybintopper4125: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218713600:43
Psil0Cybinbekks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218713600:43
JordanJ21Th LiveUSB that is00:43
Psil0Cybinthat is it00:43
bekksJordanJ21: A liveUSB does not use secure boot at all :)00:43
topoyiyoIm trying to redirect all the request on my lan to my apache website with iptables but it doesnt work, anyone could help me please?00:44
Guest90370I found I couldn't load ubuntu w/ UEFI on00:44
apb1963ubuntu 12.04 ... my load average according TOP keeps going over 1... yet there doesn't seem to be anything hitting my CPU too hard... about 5% or so seems to be about max for any 1 process and I don't see more than 2 or 3 that have that kind of usage...  any ideas why the load is so high?00:44
JordanJ21Will the Legacy boot effect my windows install?00:44
OerHeksPsil0Cybin, still on the cedartrail driver issue?00:44
bekksPsil0Cybin: That doesnt help at all. Pastebin whatever you did to "make nomodeset permanent".00:44
Psil0Cybinyes OerHeks !00:44
cpinedminimec:Let me check.00:45
Psil0Cybinbekks: i went into  sudo nano /etc/default/grub00:45
Psil0Cybinand added GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"00:45
bekksPsil0Cybin: Pastebin ...00:45
Guest90370i spent a few days trying to dual boot ubuntu and windows 8 and just couldn,t get it right00:45
bekksPsil0Cybin: Show us the actual file content please.00:45
apb1963topoyiyo: Try asking in ##networking #iptables and/or #apache00:45
Guest90370anyone else having this problem or just me?00:46
diseasilhi all.00:46
cpinedminimec: It is installed already.00:46
Psil0Cybinbekks: http://pastebin.com/gN11JjdC00:46
jojoa1997hi i am using ubuntu 13.10 and for some reason all my hidden files show up when i open the default file manager00:46
bekksPsil0Cybin: disable "quiet" and disable "splash". And did you run update-grub after editing that file?00:47
Guest90370has anyone been able to sucessfully dual boot windows 8 and ubuntu 13.10?00:47
minimeccpined: Ok. If that is the case, I cannot help you further, as I don't use the parole player.00:47
bekksGuest90370: Yes, several thousand people I guess.00:47
Psil0Cybinbekks: I disabled splash before and it also did not work i can try disabling quiet and splash00:47
cpinedok, what player do you use?00:47
Psil0Cybinbekks: but i do not think that will fix my issue, as i tried it00:47
Guest90370well i tried for days and it just wouldn't work for me00:48
bekksPsil0Cybin: Did you use update-grub after editing /etc/default/grub ?00:48
bekks!doesntwork | Guest9037000:48
ubottuGuest90370: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.00:48
OerHeksPsil0Cybin, too old, intel does not make a driver beyond kernel 3.200:48
Psil0Cybinbekks: yes, everyone is mind boggled by this issue00:48
minimeccpined: standard. totem, vlc, mplayer...00:48
Psil0CybinOerHeks: if that is the case, what do i do? stick to one kernel for ever?00:48
diseasilneed some help, thanksI have just done fresh install 12.04 LTS and now have 2 home files.00:48
cpinedok, thanks00:48
bekksPsil0Cybin: You just got the solution.00:48
topper4125to answer ubottu's questions yes... windows 8 will sit on the couch all day, and want more moneuy00:48
Guest90370well for starters the grub loader would only load windows00:48
Guest90370not ubuntu00:49
JordanJ21Can I use iTunes in ubuntu? (Not natively of course)00:49
Psil0Cybinbekks: if that is the case, does this not mean that eventually my computerwill be unsecure if i cannot stick with the latest kernel builds? OerHeks what would i do to have my computer up to date?00:49
bekksPsil0Cybin: Get a new graphics hardware.00:49
Guest90370ubottuare you there?00:49
OerHeksPsil0Cybin, yes, you are stuck to that driver and kernel, get other hardware.00:50
bekksPsil0Cybin: And yes, you computer will be insecure when staying on the old kernel forever.00:50
Guest90370thats funny topper00:50
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xanguaJordanJ21: you can try, but if your goal is to manage a device with iOS better keep a windows install00:50
topper4125:D00:50
Guest90370lol00:50
bekksGuest90370: Did you try to repait your grub?00:50
bekks*repair00:50
Guest90370i used boot-repair disk00:50
JordanJ21xangua: I have no idea if I can boot windoows in a Legacy boot00:50
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bekksGuest90370: Did you follow the guide to repair your grub?00:51
diseasil@ JordanJ21 - you can use through Windows in a virtual machine - VM ware, or try -Play On Linux/Wine00:51
Guest90370it told me to make BOS boot fron sda2/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi???00:51
Senjai`workHello all, I'm in quite a pickle00:51
Psil0Cybinbekks: OerHeks i am a broke student, so that is it...my hard ware is not supported? that stinks...why did they do this, my laptop was working perfectly fine until this kernel upgrade ... noooooo i need to use this computer so i guess i have to switch back to windows 700:51
Psil0Cybinlinux does not work on old hard ware eh?00:51
solomont13I'm a New user of Ubuntu I absolutely LOVE IT.00:51
bekksPsil0Cybin: It does. Blame it on Intel for not supporting your old hardware anymore.00:52
Senjai`workI mssed up installing some nvidia drivers and bumblebee, how can I "factory reset" my video drivers/settings to whatever comes with 13.10?00:52
Guest90370bekks did you get that?00:52
Psil0Cybinsigh guess it was a fun run for ubuntu but back to windows for me...00:52
Senjai`workAt the moment, I can't boot graphically.00:52
bekksGuest90370: I never heard of "BOS boot" at all.00:52
Guest90370sorry00:52
Guest90370BIOS00:52
Psil0Cybinstinks how i have to use windows in order to have a "stable" system but i love linux so much more00:52
Psil0Cybini wish i could do something to support my hard ware...00:52
topper4125Stability = LTS00:53
topper4125IMHO00:53
bekksPsil0Cybin: You cant. You can only replace it.00:53
Psil0Cybini have LTS00:53
Psil0CybinLTS Is not stable on an acer aspire one.00:53
bekksPsil0Cybin: It IS stable.00:53
Senjai`workAnyone with advice on how to reset my drivers?00:53
Guest90370i using a toshiba satelitte c855d00:53
Psil0Cybinbekks: ugh.. i have no money to replace, so im actually like out of luck...is what you guys are saying00:53
topper4125Which one? I'm using d275 and have an old KAV60 both running LTS latest everything XFCE 4.1000:53
bekksPsil0Cybin: The fact is: you have a graphics hardware which isnt support on kernels > 3.200:53
bekksPsil0Cybin: And the other fact: current kernel on LTS is 3.5...00:53
Psil0Cybindarn it.. .bekks so what would you do if u were in my positions00:53
Psil0Cybinand are broke00:53
Guest90370really?00:54
Psil0Cybini love ubuntu i dont want to use windows but i cannot afford a new machine00:54
topper4125both of my AOE's love LTS+XFCE00:54
Psil0Cybinthis laptop was running perfectly fine.00:54
Guest90370so you have to wait til someone writes more code or what?00:54
asjjohnsonubuntu 12.04 cinnamon DE, chrome keeps going fullscreen, will not let me exit. tried F11, nada00:54
diseasilPsil0Cybin - try a different flavour of Linux.00:54
bekksGuest90370: Intel stopped supporting his hardware.00:54
bekksdiseasil: That will not help him...00:54
Psil0Cybinusing xfce..Bekks could i not build a build of my grahic driver00:55
Psil0Cybinfor the kernel?00:55
bekksdiseasil: The hardware he has is supported untile kernel 3.2 only.00:55
bekksPsil0Cybin: Get into graphics driver coding, and do Intels job. It will take years.00:55
Psil0Cybincan i not rebuild the graphic driver?00:55
diseasilah, what about puppy linux?00:55
Psil0Cybinughhhhhhhh :(00:55
bekksdiseasil: That will not magically make a newer kernel work on his hardware.00:55
Guest90370who said like several thousand people have windows 8 and ubuntu 13.10 dual booting?00:55
bekksGuest90370: It was me.00:56
Psil0Cybinbut somepeople suggested you can download a build made for kernel versions00:56
Guest90370I'd sure like to get some info00:56
Psil0Cybinof graphic cards00:56
i00nsuPsil0Cybin: manualy everyone can00:56
bekksPsil0Cybin: There is no build for your kernel... Intel stopped supporting kernels > 3.200:56
Psil0Cybinis it hard to do?00:56
topper4125if you can get the source, you can for it. expand it, support it, sell it on ebay.... free as in freedom they all say.00:56
Psil0Cybinugh guys im actually going to cry... i just got this laptop a year ago00:56
Guest90370why can't I get this to happen?00:56
i00nsubekks: that's really true? :o00:57
bekksGuest90370: I dont know. You are not providing that much details.00:57
topper4125Psil0Cybin, which version of the Acer Apire One do you have?00:57
bekksi00nsu: Yes, thats really true.00:57
OerHeksPsil0Cybin, good luck finding a working driver.00:57
Guest90370i mean right now i've got ubuntu 13.10 on my HP Mini and t works great!!!00:57
Guest90370Grub doesn't boot ubuntu00:58
bekksGuest90370: you are using USB which isnt affected of secure boot,00:58
Guest90370ONLY windows800:58
topper4125I have 2 acer Aspire Ones, one is a D275, and the other is a first generation KAV60, both run fine under the new kernal00:58
Eliyahudoes mint 15 work good with skype?00:58
i00nsustrange, I use gentoo kernel and everything work.. or you mean, only for GPU-cards ?00:58
xangua!mint | Eliyahu00:58
ubottuEliyahu: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org00:58
bekks!mint | Eliyahu00:59
Guest90370is there a better verson of linux i could use?00:59
bekksGuest90370: No. You just have to fix grub.00:59
bekks!grub2 | Guest9037000:59
ubottuGuest90370: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub200:59
i00nsustrange, I use gentoo kernel and everything work.. or you mean, only for GPU-cards ? bekks00:59
bekksi00nsu: yes.01:00
i00nsuok01:00
Guest90370how and what does make BIOS boot to sda2/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi mean anyhow?01:00
bekksi00nsu: his dedicated GPU isnt supported by Intel anymore.01:00
bekksGuest90370: Thats described in the links given.01:00
* topper4125 finds it really strange how we have the same hardware, same DE, same Distro, my vid works... the other person's doesn't...01:01
i00nsuPsil0Cybin: what distro you using? + kernel01:01
bekkstopper4125: did you compare make and model of your GPUs?01:02
Guest90370how and what does make BIOS boot to sda2/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi mean anyhow????01:02
diseasilI need help, I have a /home/home  dir after fresh install01:02
Guest90370oh bekks??01:02
i00nsudiseasil: login-user isn't "home"?01:02
topper4125bekks tried to get the answer to exactly what version of the Aspire Psil0Cybin has (there are several) but I have the OLDEST first gen and one of the newer ones... (from last year) both running LTS, XFCE, latest kernal... all good... my collection of netbooks should cover this issue.01:03
diseasilyes but also have sub dir from previous install. they are on a separate partition01:03
topper4125which is why I think its more of an XFCE thing not a kernal thing personally.01:03
ausjke1on 12.04 whenever i accidentally drag something over to the top bar the window i dragged goesto full screen01:04
Guest90370I'm trying to understand this Linux stuff make BIOS boot to sda2/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi can anyone explain ???01:04
ausjke1anyway to disable this 'feature'?01:04
Psil0Cybintopper4125: i have a an acer aspire one d270-162801:04
reisioGuest90370: /nick biosPlease01:04
xanguadiseasil: you mean you have a separate partition for /home ¿01:04
bekksPsil0Cybin: and why gpu very exactly?01:04
Psil0CybinI am running Xfce Xubuntu but having problem with the newest kernel01:04
Psil0Cybinsorry what bekks ?01:04
diseasilxangua: yes correct01:04
bekksPsil0Cybin: which graphics hardware in detail do you have?01:05
i00nsudiseasil: on the fresh install you made the "preserv old install /home" ?01:05
Psil0Cybinhow do i find out01:05
bekksPsil0Cybin: within a specific model vendors may change the used hardware.01:05
Psil0Cybin00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)01:05
topper4125k.. back in a sec (this machine is a d275, my other is a KAV60 (first Gen).. gonna make sure the Kav 60 is running as current as I am sure it is, and I'll see whats up01:05
bekksPsil0Cybin: you dont even know and speculate about your hardware?!01:05
Psil0Cybinkk ty topper412501:05
Psil0Cybinbekks: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)01:05
wolfy1339how do you disable the feature "autosuspend" (for my wifi adapter, double checked it sees it, but doesn't use it)?01:06
OerHeksbekks search for cedartrail will do01:06
Guest90370well I'll try back another time01:06
Guest90370thanks to all01:06
diseasili00nsu: no just backed up home with rsync formatted HD re-installed and restored home to the new partition.01:07
i00nsuPsil0Cybin: pastebin $ lspci -v01:07
bekksdiseasil: so you restored one directory level too deep.01:07
i00nsuor use http://paste.ubuntu.com01:07
Psil0Cybini00nsu: http://pastebin.com/Pp0hs8WU01:08
wolfy1339how do you disable the feature "autosuspend" on usb devices (for my wifi adapter)?01:08
diseasilI seems like it but I don't under how. at no point did i invoke home/home01:09
bekksdiseasil: you used one "/" character too much when restoring.01:09
diseasilthe good thing is I have all my info.01:09
Psil0Cybini00nsu: it looks like everyone is saying intel is not supporting kernel upgrades from now one...which is worrying me i just recently got this laptop a year ago.. i cannot afford a new one01:10
bekksPsil0Cybin: No. We said: Intel stopped supporting your specific graphics hardware for kernel > 3.201:11
Psil0Cybinbekks: how come 3.2.0-55-generic-pae works perfectly fine01:12
BuntuFuntuPsil0cybin: Hiya!01:12
Psil0Cybinjust not 3.2.0-56-generic-pae01:12
Psil0Cybinhello BuntuFuntu !01:12
Psil0Cybinlike im using the one kernel below the new one01:12
BuntuFuntuLol I was in my school's writing lab..01:12
BuntuFuntuThe computers all have Ubuntu stickers on them XD01:12
Psil0CybinLol BuntuFuntu01:13
wolfy1339how do you disable the feature "autosuspend" on usb devices (for my wifi adapter)?01:13
BuntuFuntuLol I' m guessing that means they are Ubuntu Hardware-certified?01:13
ricepuddinso I've got install issues with ubuntu server. My keyboard works fine in the grub menu and the system boots into the console-based installer... but from then on in the keyboard doesn't work (looks like it's off, as the numlock light goes out immediately as it starts to boot). Does anyone have any ideas on this? The exact same system works fine with a desktop ubuntu install. Keyboard is a standard wired usb.01:13
BuntuFuntuI took a shot in the dark installing Ubuntu onto this netbook. I'm glad it works fine though ^_^01:13
BuntuFuntu\01:13
topper4125Both of my AspireOnes are using 3.8.0-33 generic01:14
topper4125Linux AOD257 3.8.0-33-generic #48~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 24 16:31:16 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux01:14
BuntuFuntuTopper: Do you recommend I upgrade from the 12.04 LTS to 13.10 or wait until the next LTS comes out?01:15
topper4125I only go from LTS to LTS... but don't let that stop you...01:15
Psil0Cybintopper4125: do you think its an issue if your using out dated kernels too?01:15
Psil0Cybindoes that not create security issues, etc?01:16
Psil0Cybintopper4125: so you would keep linux on ur machine with out dated kernels?01:16
BuntuFuntuI will wait for the next LTS then.01:16
kelvinellahi I mount NSA server directory with sudo mount -t cifs -o credentials=/home/kelvinella/.smb //192.168.0.10/home /home/kelvinella/mHQ/home, but I am not able to delete file in file manager. why?01:16
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kelvinellaI have to do sudo rm file in terminal instead.  but how do I make it so that it is mount like windows does?01:17
topper4125I *could* be a security issue... just not one I concern myself with...personally the only security threat that scares me personally is the NSA, and they don't care what kernal you have... if they want in, they're in01:17
topper4125*IT could be... yada yad01:17
BuntuFuntuBrb just downloaded 8 Updates for Ubuntu 12.0401:18
wolfy1339hello? i have been posting my question and nobody has been answering..... i uderstsnd there were other people but you have to atleast answer later01:18
Psil0Cybintopper4125: so your saying u would keep ur linux for ever @ some kernel version even if it is out dated01:18
BuntuFuntuWolfy1339: What's your question?01:19
topper4125because of exactly "HOW OPEN" this community is, if there is a *huge* gapping security threat that is real to the end user, it generally gets outted by the public, before it becomes a threat....01:19
Psil0Cybini am just worried about security issues. I want to keep my machine secure, by keeping it up to date.01:19
wolfy1339how do you disable the feature "autosuspend" on usb devices?01:19
Psil0CybinI do not understand if i should go to Intels head office and have a talk with them this is ridicious01:19
Psil0Cybini just bought this laptop I hate intel!01:19
BuntuFuntuWolfy1339: Let me check that for you.01:19
BuntuFuntuPsil0cybin: I run with an Intel Atom processor and an Intel graphics driver/chip I think01:20
BuntuFuntuI remember seeing something about my system having Intel GMA 3150 or something when I had Windoze.01:20
i00nsuPsil0Cybin: did you check md5sum of the ubuntu.iso ?01:21
Psil0Cybini00nsu: it was a long time ago before i knew how to do md5sum checks so i did not01:21
Psil0Cybinbut i got the iso specifically off the ubuntu site for my acer aspire one01:22
Psil0Cybini looked around for a long time and finally found an ISO that would boot up properly01:22
nafgHi, can someone help me with preseeding the installer?01:22
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topper4125Psil0Cybin, while you're in there about the graphics cards... ask them about this: http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/14/new-intel-chip-wont-support-linux/01:22
nafgHi, can someone help me with preseeding the installer?01:22
nafgI guess the first question would be, how can I tell whether my preseed file is actually being loaded?01:23
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topper4125then ask for the address of AMD lolz01:23
Guest76147I have a virtual machine host and offer 10.04 LTS and 12.04 LTS.  Do you think that I should drop the 10.04 LTS, or would it be a viable option for someone to have a fresh install of 10.04 LTS?01:23
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BuntuFuntuWolfty1339: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117038101:24
Psil0Cybintopper4125: OMG are u serious!! I HATE INTEL!01:24
BuntuFuntuWolfy1339: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1170381 That what you are looking for?01:24
Psil0CybinWhat the hell im going to give them my laptop i want my moneyt back01:24
Psil0Cybini was told this alptop would run ubuntu01:24
Psil0Cybinit runs ubuntu but cannot update ubuntu garbage!01:24
wolfy1339BuntuFuntu, maybe... lemme look at it01:24
BuntuFuntuWell, atleast they were right about it running Ubuntu.01:25
topper4125amd and nvidia are the answer to a majority of the problems that are caused by wheelings and dealings by microsoft and intel01:25
minimecPsil0Cybin: Stop with that bullsh..t. Use some integrated AMD GPU/CPU chip once under linux and then I ask you, wich company you hate.01:25
BuntuFuntuomg, exactly what minimec said. That stuff is hell. ._.01:26
Psil0Cybinsigh01:26
Psil0Cybinim in a bad mood tonight :( grunts01:26
minimectopper4125: We are talking about one CPU, not a CPU series... So here again... stop with that bullsh...t.01:26
BuntuFuntuPsilo what chip are you using?01:27
wolfy1339BuntuFuntu, no... that's not it. in windows when you went to device manager and go to a device's properties you could disable that option. Is there an equivalent of that in ubuntu?01:27
i00nsuhahaha in some point we all hate something.. normaly what is not working as we wish01:27
Psil0Cybin00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)01:27
Psil0CybinBuntuFuntu:01:28
BuntuFuntuIntel Atom Processor?01:28
Psil0Cybinyup01:28
BuntuFuntuI'm running with an Intel N455 on a Lenovo S10001:28
minimecPsil0Cybin: I am running some self compiled linux-kernels here. I am not always on the 'newest' stuff here. Enjoy your ...55 version of that kernel until maybe version ...57 of the kernel fixes your bug!01:28
topper4125True... it was one cpu, for one specific run...still doesn't make sense to me... but that's the game they play, and they play it well. if they want to lock themselves down to a limited market... who am I to judge...01:29
BuntuFuntuPsil0Cybin:  Rest assured that your bug will not last for long. Once a bug is found, Kernel developers are quick to patch them.01:29
Psil0CybinBuntuFuntu: but they are suggesting it has to do with intel01:29
Psil0Cybinminimec: if that is the solution i would love That!!01:30
Psil0Cybini am just paranoid there will be no fix01:30
BuntuFuntuI don't see why. Intel has worked with the Linux community before.01:30
BuntuFuntuI'm pretty sure they have anyways.01:30
zykotick9BuntuFuntu: fyi, those GMAcrap Intel cards, are not actually made by Intel (Intel just puts there name on them) :(..01:31
minimecPsil0Cybin: Years of linux experience tell me, that this is the solution...01:31
BuntuFuntuAh I see zykotick901:31
BuntuFuntuBut the GMA works fine on 12.04.01:32
BuntuFuntuFor me. o.o01:32
Psil0Cybingood thats what i wanted to hear minimec if that is the case, i would be forever greatefull i am just so worried that once i fell in love with linux all the problems start01:32
BuntuFuntuI actually came to Ubuntu to get away from the Viruses of windows. I wasnt as scared to move to Linux with Buntu because everywhere I look most of the programs I use,01:33
BuntuFuntuhave a pre-compiled Ubuntu version.01:33
topper4125^that^01:34
topper4125:)01:34
diseasilgood night01:34
BuntuFuntuThat, and to me an OS is meant to be fun, open. Customizable.01:36
TheMadDrizzlei'm having problems being able to access my Galaxy S4 ( Rom: Hyperdrive 10.0.2 ) on my home pc running Ubuntu 13.10.  I updated both at the same time, and now I can access my SD card within my phone, but I cant access the EMMC partition of my phone - Can anyone give me a bit of advice?  I've updated the mtplib on ubuntu but still not working.01:36
topper4125I started in Ubuntu to learn the ropes, moved to Arch to try Bleeding edge, then to Ubuntu Mini after realizing bleeding edge means "babysit OS more than use software", and have been on Ubuntu Mini ever since.01:37
BuntuFuntuTheMadDrizzle: Running Ubuntu Touch?01:37
BuntuFuntuTopper: Didn't know there was an Ubuntu Mini. I'm running Ubuntu Desktop on a lenovo S10001:37
TheMadDrizzleBuntuFuntu: Nope, 13.10 on pc, and Hyperdrive 10.0.2 on Galaxy S4 ( MTP device )01:38
BuntuFuntuWell just ran the Additional drivers program on my Ubuntu.01:38
BuntuFuntuApparently I'm not using any Propietary drivers.(:01:38
topper4125https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD Version 13.10 is a 30Mb download :)01:38
BuntuFuntuCompletely open source. me thinks :D01:39
wolfy1339In windows when you went to device manager and go to a device's properties you could disable the "Allow the computer to diable this device to save power" option. Is there an equivalent of that in ubuntu? Cause it hink it might be causing all my problems with my wifi01:39
BuntuFuntutopper4125: Look at these specs: http://www.cnet.com/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-s100-1067/4505-3121_7-34982311.html01:39
BuntuFuntuWolfy1339: Which Ubuntu version are you using again?01:39
wolfy133913.1001:39
BuntuFuntuAh. Running 12.04 here.01:39
topper4125Same specs and my D275 I think...  and ya... runnin 12.04 LTS from Mini Install here as well... Minimal is pretty much like setting up an Arch box, but a tish more stability.01:41
william1after doing a dist-upgrade, what can be done to clean up excessive space?  Just talking about a bare bones install on Ubuntu and a dist-upgrade that seems to take up a lot of space.01:41
daftykinswilliam1: remove outdated kernels and "sudo apt-get clean" to clear out the repositories01:42
BuntuFuntuWilliam1: When it comes to upgrading to the next LTS, I plan on just wiping Ubuntu and installing the new version.01:42
william1thanks daftykins!01:42
Jigawattswhat does LTS mean01:42
daftykinslong term support01:42
BuntuFuntuJigawatts: Long Term Support.01:42
Jigawattsk thanks01:42
BuntuFuntuNormal releases are only supported for 9 months.01:43
topper4125I usually do that.. I have my /home in its own partition for the purpose01:43
cpinedhello, I use remmina to try to connect to a ubuntu box, but the only thing that happens is a get a Connection Log and an "Ok" button which I'm not able to click on.01:43
william1daftykins: just delete the old kernels manually or is there a specific package to look for?01:43
BuntuFuntuTopper: I have a mostly fresh install of Ubuntu except for Skype XD01:43
daftykinswilliam1: are you familiar with pastebin? pastebin the output of "ls /boot" for me01:44
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daftykinswilliam1: oh and add the output of "uname -r" after it01:44
william1daftykins: I have a lot I can remove there.  Just wasn't sure if certain things should be removed with apt-get.01:44
daftykinswilliam1: you'll do it via package management, yes01:45
TheMadDrizzleAttempting to connect device(s)01:45
TheMadDrizzleignoring libusb_claim_interface() = -6PTP_ERROR_IO: failed to open session, trying again after resetting USB interface     -  This is the error message I get when trying to use mtp-detect on my Galaxy S4, Can anyone help me troubleshoot it?  Why wouldn't it be able to  claim the device?01:45
topper4125ahh ya.. could probably fit the /home on a thumbdrive then ;)01:45
zykotick9william1: you might want to check the size of apt's cache as well "du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives/", you can remove with "sudo apt-get clean"01:45
daftykinszykotick9: already shared that one ^_^01:45
william1also those old kernels don't take up too much of the extra space I am seeing.01:45
william1I am seeing a few extra hundred MBs as a tar gz01:45
william1will try to clean as you said though01:46
nafgwilliam1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu01:46
nafgCan anyone help me with preseeding?01:46
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wolfy1339In windows, when you went to device manager and go to a device's properties you could disable the "Allow the computer to diable this device to save power" option. Is there an equivalent of that in ubuntu 13.10?01:49
william1daftykins: apt-get clean cleared out 408 MB :)01:49
topper4125what exactly are your trying to disable wolfy133901:49
wolfy1339topper4125, selective suspend01:50
topper4125william1, do you have bleachbit installed?01:50
topper4125!info bleachbit01:50
ubottubleachbit (source: bleachbit): delete unnecessary files from the system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-1 (saucy), package size 356 kB, installed size 1891 kB01:50
JinxyHello all01:51
william1topper4125: This is pretty much barebones and the only thing that changed and added that 400 MB was the dist-upgrade.01:51
topper4125wolfy1339, not sure if this is what you are looking for or not: http://askubuntu.com/questions/80638/how-to-disable-auto-power-off-of-usb-devices-like-usb-mouse01:51
JinxyI can't find my /etc/rc.local file?01:52
topper4125ah.. k... just checking william101:52
Jinxywhere would it be if not in /etc/ ? Can I just create another one?01:52
william1Thanks topper4125 will look into that though01:52
william1I asked earlier, will try again.  Any reason someone would want to make a new installation of 10.04 LTS rather than 12.04 LTS?01:53
wolfy1339topper4125, you are the second person to link me there.... i don't HAVE the program their using & talking about....01:53
wolfy1339and no that's not it01:53
zykotick9william1: 10.04 is ONLY supported on servers at this point!  that means MOST of the packages are NOT supported.01:53
william1zykotick9: headless servers is the target.01:54
BuntuFuntuWilliam1: Recommend a new install of Ubuntu 12.04, If your using Ubuntu 10 as a desktop.01:54
william1zykotick9: specifically a Xen domU.  Just wondering if there are valid resons people might need the older one.01:54
zykotick9william1: well, don't expect many packages... if you go 10.04.01:54
william1As an example I know of a few things that only run on CentOS 5.01:55
zykotick9william1: no (IMO)01:55
nafgCan anyone help me with preseeding?01:55
westhow do I tell what version of ubuntu i have (13.04 or 13.10) from terminal.01:55
zykotick9west: "lsb_realease -a"01:56
westzykotick9, thanks01:56
JinxyIf i have a list of commands, how can I execute them on startup? Is there a file I can write them to?01:57
topper4125wolfy1339, how about this one (looks like its done with an edit of modprobe.d http://www.turnkeylinux.org/forum/support/20110928/disable-usb-autosuspend01:57
topper4125To guess an answer or two as to why someone would willingly install a nonsupported ubuntu release (like 10.04)... 1) maybe its for a special use box, that they know 10.04 (or at least the kernal that came with it... just work out of the box). or 2) there was a wallpaper in 10.04 you really *really* *#really#* liked.02:00
kelvinellawhat is uid=1000 in mount?02:00
kelvinellado i need this option for SMB mounting if I want to be able to cp or mv files in the SMB share?02:01
Jinxy¬¬02:01
daftykinstopper4125: 1) 10.04 server is still in support 2) 'kernel' not kernal and 3) good night!02:03
topper4125g'nite02:03
BuntuFuntuJust realized I have mostly Linux devices.02:04
BuntuFuntuo.oo02:04
* topper4125 always spells kernel wrong.... but at least I'm not spelling it like the mascot of a fast food chicken franchise ;)02:04
BuntuFuntuI want Ubuntu Touch doe02:05
topper4125I'm still in the air about touch.02:06
topper4125and the only machine that I have that is win based is my GPS unit in the car. (only know that because of the error codes it spits out when it crashes (the machine.. not the car)..02:06
JinxyI want mc (midnight commander) to run everytime I login to Ubuntu. Where do I set the command 'mc' ?02:07
JinxySo that it runs every time I login?02:07
JinxyNot on boot02:07
reisioJinxy: in X?02:07
Jinxyreisio: Don't understand02:08
topper4125Sessions and Startup??02:08
JinxyI just want the command to be run on the start of a session02:08
Jinxyrunning the command on startup probably wouldn't cause any harm, but I'd rather it not02:09
topper4125BRB switching to Unity...02:09
wafflejockJinxy: think he's asking if you want it to run during a graphical login or for all logins from say ssh or tty02:09
wafflejockJinxy: I think you're basically looking at ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc but not entirely clear just popped in02:09
Jinxywaffflejock: Noob question, but every commands inside a user's ~/.bashrc are run when they login, correct?02:10
wafflejockJinxy: here's the official stuff I beleive https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Bash-Startup-Files.html02:11
gp5stdoes anyone know if libmagic reads whole files or only as much as it needs02:11
wafflejockJinxy: but yah basically anytime bash shell is used which I believe is the default shell for users02:12
topper4125 Jinxy, use startup applications to have unity auto fire programs you want02:12
Jinxywafflejock: okay I'll give it a whirl, thanks02:12
wafflejocktopper4125: good point too ^02:12
Jinxytopper4125: I'm using a cli but thanks :)02:12
topper4125oh... then ya.. bash it then...02:13
reisioJinxy: put this into your ~/.bashrc: if [ ! $(pidof mc) ]; then mc; fi02:13
reisiothat way your head won't explode02:13
* topper4125 switched to unity to find the answer for someone not using unity... back to XFCE fer me! :)02:13
reisiotopper4125: :p02:13
reisio'Xfce'02:13
topper4125back in a bit...02:14
topper4125ahhh... all better ;)02:15
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phong_hi is SSD faster for ubuntu then a regular disk drive?02:37
cfhowlettphong_, of course02:38
phong_anyone know how to clear xchat screen?  Usually I press ALT+L02:38
cfhowlettphong_, /clear02:38
phong_no02:38
phong_there is short cut02:38
phong_is it neccessary to have SSD to run ubuntu and fast?02:38
cfhowlett"fast"?02:39
phong_is SSD neccessary?02:39
reisiophong_: very few things which humans predate are necessary02:40
cfhowlettphong_, ubuntu runs well on usb/hdd/ssd.02:40
reisioincluding most humans :p02:40
phong_cfhowlett, so it is not necessary then02:40
cfhowlettphong_, I and million of other users have no ssd but we have ubuntu so ... no02:40
phong_ok02:41
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phong_i love ubuntu02:43
phong_fast :)02:43
phong_however, lack of softwares though02:43
Guest3828I am new to ubuntu and I am trying to change the name before the @02:43
phong_is there a way to make vlc a default player?02:43
cfhowlettphong_, yeah, only thousands of packages on the software center.  so sad02:43
phong_is RedHat good?02:44
phong_Redhat is not free.02:44
cfhowlett!ot|phong_, this is the ubuntu support channel.02:44
ubottuphong_, this is the ubuntu support channel.: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:44
qwerty1793hi, I'm running a program on 12.04 which is ram intensive, if I monitor its ram usage using top then when it gets to ~80% the entire computer freezes for ~1minute (like I can't even drag windows around) and then it springs back to life with ~60% being used. Is this the swap disk kicking in?02:45
Guest3828I am new to ubuntu and I am trying to change the name before the @ in the terminal02:45
AndroUserHello everyone02:46
BuntuFuntuGuest3828 Do you see unity bar to the left on your screen?02:46
cfhowlettGuest3828, change your account name in settings > user02:46
reisiophong_: lack of softwares? :p02:46
cfhowlettAndroUser, greetings02:46
Guest3828thank you02:46
^aDaMlo02:47
^aDaMhi Guest382802:47
MoonlightningI did a `sudo apt-get upgrade` just now, but /boot filled up. So I moved a bunch of (apparently) old kernels and such out to /var/tmp (instead of deleting them). Then I did `sudo apt-get upgrade` again, but it completed successfully without doing anything. I'm not sure everything is in a working state. Is there some kind of integrity check I can do?02:47
Guest3828Hi aDaM02:47
Moonlightningall of {vmlinux,initrd.img}{,.old} point to existing files in /boot, and I /think/ the `.old`s point to kernels|images that were there before. If the kernel or image is bad, the system will fall back to the old ones, right?02:48
Natalie-5274Is there a program for ubuntu that shows a map of all the devices connected to my local area network?02:50
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BuntuFuntuNatalie:02:52
BuntuFuntuNatalie-5274: Click on the Home folder icon in your unity bar.02:52
MrPPSwhat's Ubuntu 13.10 like with dual-booting Windows 8 these days?02:52
MrPPS13.04 wasn't able to do it for me02:53
Natalie-5274BuntuFuntu: 'Files'?02:53
BuntuFuntuDid you click the orange folder02:54
BuntuFuntu?02:54
Natalie-5274Yeah I clicked it02:54
BuntuFuntuOk in the menu to the left in that window  you should see home desktop  etc02:55
BuntuFuntuDo you see a browse network Menu entry?02:55
Natalie-5274I02:55
Natalie-5274I see it02:55
BuntuFuntuClick that.02:55
peroi seem to have lost the unity web apps extension in chromium - any ideas for getting it back?02:55
cfhowlett!cookies|BuntuFuntu,02:55
ubottuBuntuFuntu,: Cookies are delicious delicacies.02:55
cfhowlett!cookie|BuntuFuntu,02:56
ubottuBuntuFuntu,: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!02:56
wilee-nileeMrPPS, No problem here but I have a msdos setup no uefi.02:56
BuntuFuntuNot sure if sarcasm or not but ok. I like cookies :302:56
cfhowlettBuntuFuntu, I rarely do sarcasm.  well done.02:56
topper4125!cookies | BuntuFuntu02:57
ubottuBuntuFuntu: Cookies are delicious delicacies.02:57
BuntuFuntu:302:57
BuntuFuntuIs there a !milk option too??02:57
BuntuFuntuCan't eat cookies without milk02:57
duhamelhi all, i am trying to get the bluetooth to work on my hp laptop. i am running 13.10 with a ralink rt3290 that is showing up when i lspci.02:57
BuntuFuntu!milk | BuntuFUntu02:57
cfhowlett!beer02:58
BuntuFuntu!beer02:58
cfhowlett!wine02:58
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu02:58
duhameli downloaded the drivers and when i go to make i am getting this error:error: ‘__mod_pci_device_table’ aliased to undefined symbol ‘rtbt_pci_ids02:58
duhamelwhat does this mean?02:59
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wilee-nilee!gin03:00
cfhowlett!pie03:00
cfhowlett!pizza03:00
dewdgang-frank!beer03:01
topper4125duhamel, do you have a bluetooth device attached to the machine (or did you at some point?)03:01
topper4125!spoon03:01
ubottuThere is no spoon.03:01
MrPPSthanks wilee-nilee, unfortunately I have UEFI03:02
dewdgang-frank04:01 ubottu: Sorry, I don't know anything about beer03:02
dewdgang-frankgotta teach that one the best in life there is.03:02
duhameltopper4125: yeah. im dualbooting windows 8 and 13.10 and it works in windows but not linux.03:02
MrPPSduhamel: did you start with win 8 installed first?03:02
duhamelMrPPS: yeah03:02
wilee-nileeMrPPS, Seems do-able in general just not the same for everyone, would you like a link at the ubuntu forums on this?03:02
topper4125duhamel, when it comes to duel boot with win 8, I'm at a complete loss (haven't used win since xp days)... that error however has something to do with blue tooth03:03
MrPPSduhamel: thanks :)03:03
MrPPSwilee-nilee: that'd be nice, if you have it handy, thanks :)03:03
wilee-nileeMrPPS, This mod is focused on this and will help you if you have a thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729503:04
JordanJ2Hello, I am installing ubuntu in Legacy mode, using windows 8 in EUFI will installing GRUB2 cause problems booting windows when ubuntu installs it?03:04
MrPPSthanks wilee-nilee, shall take a look03:04
MrPPSbeen a while since I've done dual booting, so just not up with the latest :)03:05
wilee-nileeJordanJ2, Take a look at that link I just gave MrPPS03:05
wilee-nileeJordanJ2, Have you seen the uefi wiki?03:05
duhameltopper: yeah im tryi ng to make the drivers03:05
JordanJ2wilee-nilee: That is not what i'm looking for :P03:06
adamuHello03:06
cfhowlettadamu, greetings03:06
dewdgang-frankhey :)03:06
randomer_how to detect the level of anonymity that a proxy has03:06
randomer_?03:06
wilee-nileeJordanJ2, Both have relative info if you have a uefi setup, and grub info is needed.03:07
JordanJ2wilee-nilee: I am installing Ubuntu in Legacy mode03:07
JordanJ2I am running Windows 8 in EUFI with Secure Boot03:07
wilee-nileeJordanJ2, still relevant if the HD and computer is uefi, unless you have wiped the gpt from it, have you wiped the gpt?03:08
JordanJ2I would like to know if I will have a problem installing GRUB2 in Ubuntu if it would still boot into windows hence different modes03:08
JordanJ2No03:08
wilee-nileeJordanJ2, grub 2 is installed yes but not in the mbr.03:08
randomer_?03:09
randomer_how to detect the level of anonymity that a proxy has03:09
reisiorandomer_: that's the opposite of what people using proxies want you to know03:09
reisioso, with some difficulty03:09
JordanJ2wilee-nilee: So I will not have a problem?03:10
wilee-nileeJordanJ2, I believe the legacy is for a wiped HD no gpt so you can use the mbr.03:10
randomer_reisio yes?03:10
wilee-nileeno uefi anyway which had gpt in windows03:10
JordanJ2Also installing Ubuntu in Legacy and having Windows in EUFI will be fine wilee-nilee?03:11
adamuDoes Ubuntu For Phones Integrate Well With Ubuntu On The Desktop?03:11
wilee-nileeJordanJ2, Not sure and virtually few here really know to be honest.03:11
raghavendraI had the problem that when I gave the command that sudo apt-get update giving error in middle that Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources03:11
raghavendra  404  Not Found03:11
raghavendraErr http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main i386 Packages03:11
raghavendra  404  Not Found03:11
FloodBot1raghavendra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:11
wilee-nileeraghavendra, Check if the ppa has precise added.03:12
BuntuFuntuadamu I believe so03:12
BuntuFuntuI read something about that. Hold on03:12
randomer_this chat is a mess, how to turn off the setting for the people that leave and join?03:12
randomer_??????03:12
wilee-nileerandomer_, your irc app?03:12
randomer_webchat.freenode.net03:12
randomer_is there a command?03:12
adamuI am so glad I can watch NetFlix now...03:13
wilee-nileerandomer_, probably in preferences, not sure if webchat has one, regular apps like xchat/hexchat do.03:13
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BuntuFuntuAdamu: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/features03:13
raghavendraI am new to ubuntu 12.04 how to check the ppa added03:13
jmgkhello raghavendra03:14
wilee-nileeraghavendra, Go to the ppa's webpage and look.03:14
adamuBuntuFuntu, I'm looking forward to trying this out sometime...03:14
jmgkraghavendra:  if you need help jut ask here or me :)03:14
BuntuFuntuDo you have a Galaxy Nexus or A Nexus 4?03:14
BuntuFuntuAdamu:03:14
wilee-nileeraghavendra, never seen a ppa attached ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources03:15
raghavendraI am having the problem that when I try update using the update manager its showing the message that check the internet connction03:16
adamuBuntuFuntu, Me? I currently have an iphone.. getting ready to buy a new phone haven't looked all that much yet03:16
jmgkhmm03:16
jmgkraghavendra:  make sure your cable is properly plugged in03:16
BuntuFuntuAdamU: Ubuntu Touch can be flashed onto the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 403:17
jmgkor make surrey our wifi signal/card is not down03:17
jmgksure*03:17
BuntuFuntuAnd Android is able to be reinstalled to those yes.03:17
raghavendraits correct and I am using also03:17
jmgkok03:17
adamuBuntuFuntu, Thanks I'll keep that in mind I'm looking forward to getting a phone I don't have to jailbreak to run openssh on :P03:18
jmgkraghavendra:  got my msg? I can help with the issue03:18
jmgkGo to network manager03:18
BuntuFuntuBaha yeah :P I have never had an iphone03:18
BuntuFuntuI've had mostly windows products but been full-linux for a while except at school where they use Windows 703:19
BuntuFuntuBut even for that, I have a Live Ubuntu Install :)03:19
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adamuBuntuFuntu, Haha yeah its weird being in computer science classes and being the only one using Ubuntu/Debian/Slackware with emacs or vim whereas everyone else is using visual studio and windows 7 :P03:20
BuntuFuntuAdamu: Omg yes I love using Ubuntu in Multimedia 203:21
BuntuFuntuEveryone always asks how I customize my Login screen like it is and I end up having to explain Ubuntu lol03:21
wilee-nileeadamu, Your at the wrong school mine had two open source labs and many using open source03:21
BuntuFuntuWilee-nilee: My school uses windows because they have a "District-wide License"03:22
wilee-nileeBuntuFuntu, This college?03:22
BuntuFuntuKinda funny how I was curious one day and a couple of computers are using pirated Windows copies, that are genuine. and No this is normal american High School03:23
BuntuFuntuI'm 16. :P03:23
wilee-nileeBuntuFuntu, ah, high school that was about 30 years ago for me, oh the memories. ;)03:23
adamuwilee-nilee, Yeah... :/03:23
reisiowhen NASA uses Windows, there's even less hope for the USA's education system03:24
reisiowhich is massively more in the crapper03:24
adamuI believe the DOD uses Red Hat?03:24
BuntuFuntuA kid got banned here for trying to install Ubuntu to a couple of computers.03:24
adamuBuntuFuntu, Like Format Them? Or run a live cd03:25
BuntuFuntuFormat them.03:25
BuntuFuntuI believe he was just trying to do a service imho XD03:25
adamuBuntuFuntu, ROFL...03:25
wjtaylorwhat's the best way to download java for squeeze?03:25
iIlL10OoI'have change a kk.ttf , and how to apply it , without restart X ?03:25
reisioadamu: the DOD uses many awful things, including Windows03:26
BuntuFuntuadamu: It was great. :p03:26
cfhowlettwjtaylor, ask in #debian03:26
wjtayloroops03:26
BuntuFuntuwjtaylor: This is #Ubuntu :P03:26
reisioiIlL10Oo: change? You didn't want to make a duplicate?03:26
adamureisio, alright03:26
iIlL10Ooreisio: I have fc-cache -fv, but font in terminal did not change .03:27
reisioiIlL10Oo: how're you expecting it to change?03:27
adamuBuntuFuntu, Well at least he wasn't trying to install keyloggers for 16... thats pretty good :P03:27
pero where can i get the actual extension for chromium's unity web apps? i've lost it and get it back it no matter what (reinstalling chromium-browser, unity-webapps-common, etc)03:27
iIlL10Ooreisio: I edit the font , use fontforge . and the font is applyed in chrome , but in terminal , I need restart X03:27
BuntuFuntuLol true. I love using Ubuntu though03:28
BuntuFuntuIt's fun and on small screens for me Unity bar is nice(:03:28
reisioiIlL10Oo: reading that it sounds like you know how to fix your problem03:28
duhamelhi all, i am trying to get the bluetooth to work on my hp laptop. i am running 13.10 with a ralink rt3290 that is showing up when i lspci. i have downloaded drivers. when i got to make i am getting error:error: ‘__mod_pci_device_table’ aliased to undefined symbol ‘rtbt_pci_ids03:28
CADBOTAnyone ever have a problem with Ubuntu booting to Purple, stalling, then having kernal panic on subsequent bootups?03:28
iIlL10Ooreisio: yes , how to apply my font without restartX03:28
reisioiIlL10Oo: ah03:28
BuntuFuntuCadbot: I had a kernel panic once while installing. I attempted reinstallation again and it went without a hitch03:29
reisioiIlL10Oo: did you try ending all your X terminal processes?03:29
iIlL10Ooreisio: no03:29
CADBOTBuntuFuntu: Same thing happened after a dozen installs :/03:29
iIlL10Ooreisio: why need restart process ?03:29
reisioiIlL10Oo: wouldn't it be simpler to change the name of the font :p03:29
reisiothat way you also wouldn't confuse the original for the modified03:29
BuntuFuntuCadbot:  Is it an attempt to kill init or what?03:30
_NerdyMe_i have a problem, when trying to update the system as well when trying to upgrade, installing or deleting... i always get that strange error. somebody knows what to do?03:30
iIlL10Ooreisio: chrome is not restart , just close a page , and reopen a page03:30
_NerdyMe_Get:942 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/universe unity-webapps-launchpad all 2.4.16+13.10.20130924.2-0ubuntu1 [14.0 kB]03:30
_NerdyMe_Get:943 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/universe unity-webapps-twitter all 2.4.16+13.10.20130924.2-0ubuntu1 [10.2 kB]03:30
_NerdyMe_Get:944 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/universe unity-webapps-youtube all 2.4.16+13.10.20130924.2-0ubuntu1 [25.8 kB]03:30
_NerdyMe_Fetched 553 MB in 36min 32s (252 kB/s)03:30
FloodBot1_NerdyMe_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:30
_NerdyMe_Extracting templates from packages: 100%03:30
reisioiIlL10Oo: you said03:30
BuntuFuntuDoes it say anything other then Kernel Panic?03:30
BuntuFuntuIf it does that will help us greatly(:03:30
duhamelhi all, i am trying to get the bluetooth to work on my hp laptop. i am running 13.10 with a ralink rt3290 that is showing up when i lspci. i have downloaded drivers. when i got to make i am getting error:error: ‘__mod_pci_device_table’ aliased to undefined symbol ‘rtbt_pci_ids03:30
iIlL10Ooreisio: ok , I'll try03:30
CADBOTBuntuFuntu: It was a while back.  I was curious to get initial input. Later this week I can get some more exact screen caps03:31
BuntuFuntuCadbot: Are you running Ubuntu now?03:31
CADBOTBuntuFuntu I believe there was failure to init or something like that03:31
CADBOTBuntuFuntu Not on this computer03:31
_NerdyMe_i have a problem, when trying to update the system as well when trying to upgrade, installing or deleting... i always get that strange error. somebody knows what to do? Preconfiguring packages ...03:31
_NerdyMe_ dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:03:31
_NerdyMe_  files list file for package `grub-common' contains empty filename03:31
BuntuFuntuCADBOT: what are you running?03:31
CADBOTI have one computer running ubuntu, and two running windows03:32
CADBOTI'm on a windows one atm03:32
Psil0Cybinhey guys if a kernel is not working for me, how can i make an offical report perhaps so people can work on it for later releases?03:32
reisioPsil0Cybin: der launchpadheimer03:32
cfhowlett!kernel03:33
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)03:33
BuntuFuntu3 windows computers in this household. Mines the only one running Ubuntu03:33
BuntuFuntu!mainline kernel03:33
BuntuFuntu!mainline03:33
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds03:33
Psil0Cybinthanks03:33
CADBOTI'd like to get 2/3 on ubuntu03:33
BuntuFuntuPsilocybin: Have you tried a Mainline?03:33
CADBOTand the 3rd one when work comes out with it :D03:33
BuntuFuntuCADBOT: Hardware uncompatible on the 3rd?03:34
CADBOTI've installed ubuntu tons of times... never had this issue :/03:34
Psil0Cybincant find where to report tho03:34
Psil0CybinBuntuFuntu:03:34
Psil0Cybinim looking at the wiki now03:34
CADBOTBuntuFuntu It can boot from the live usb just fine03:34
CADBOTBut then when I restart after the actual installation, it all goes down03:34
BuntuFuntuWhich installation of ubuntu are you using on that one?03:34
wilee-nileeCADBOT, Can you state the issues in one post?03:35
BuntuFuntu!Canonical03:35
ubottuCanonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/03:35
CADBOTI'll come back a little bit later with a more formatted report on the issue03:35
CADBOTThanks!03:35
BuntuFuntuCADBOT: Which Ubuntu version are you using, latest?03:35
BuntuFuntu:o03:35
duhamelhi all, i am trying to get the bluetooth to work on my hp laptop. i am running 13.10 with a ralink rt3290 that is showing up when i lspci. i have downloaded drivers. when i got to make i am getting error:error: ‘__mod_pci_device_table’ aliased to undefined symbol ‘rtbt_pci_ids03:36
BuntuFuntuDuhamel: We've seen you post before. Please to hold on one second yes03:36
JordanJ2Is it possible to install Ubuntu (13.10) with secure boot and EUFI enabled?03:36
BuntuFuntuDuhamel: i may have found a solution to your problem.03:37
duhamelBuntuFuntu: thanks bro.03:37
duhamelfor taking time to help me.03:38
BuntuFuntuDuhamel: rfkill  list03:38
BuntuFuntuPaste the results here.03:38
duhamelmy bluetooth doesn't even show up when i do that03:39
duhamelrfkill list03:39
duhamel0: phy0: Wireless LAN03:39
duhamelSoft blocked: no03:39
duhamelHard blocked: no03:39
BuntuFuntuHmm, so it is a combined wifi/bluetooth card yes?03:39
duhamelit could be.03:39
_NerdyMe_hi there, when trying to install any package i get this error: ... Preconfiguring packages ...03:39
_NerdyMe_dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:03:39
_NerdyMe_ files list file for package `grub-common' contains empty filename03:39
_NerdyMe_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)03:39
_NerdyMe_somebody an idea what i could do?03:40
duhamelbut its seperate in lspci so i don't think so03:40
BuntuFuntuHmm.. Did you maybe blacklist native driver rt28000 pci>03:40
wilee-nilee_NerdyMe_, What is the context of this error?03:40
BuntuFuntu?03:40
Psil0Cybinhey guys if i want to report a bug of a kernel i would go to launchpad right?03:41
Psil0Cybinto report them03:41
wilee-nilee!bug | Psil0Cybin03:41
ubottuPsil0Cybin: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.03:41
_NerdyMe_i do sudo apt-get upgrade ... it download a bunch of stuff and when it comes to the "preconfigure..." etc then it throws that error.03:41
duhamellspci: 01:00.2 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0a)03:41
duhamel02:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe03:41
duhamel02:00.1 Bluetooth: Ralink corp. RT3290 Bluetooth03:41
cfhowlettduhamel, PASTE!03:41
cfhowlett!paste03:41
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:41
wilee-nilee_NerdyMe_, Looks like you have a broken package, can you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin it03:42
duhamelcfhowlett: paste what?03:42
BuntuFuntuDuhamel: Please try this link and see if the commands work for you03:42
cfhowlettduhamel, stop putting output in this channel.  use the paste commands03:42
cfhowlettplease03:42
duhamelhow?03:42
JordanJ2wilee-nilee, Is it possible to install ubuntu with EUFI and Secure Boot on?03:42
BuntuFuntuhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211557003:42
cfhowlett!paste03:42
duhamelin terminal?03:43
BuntuFuntuDuhamel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2115570 <--- Ralink rt 329003:43
cfhowlett!pastebin03:43
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:43
BuntuFuntuDuhamel: Are you viewing the link?03:44
duhamelBuntuFuntu: that's where i got the driver. my issue is that when i go to make this driver in the makefile folder i am getting the error i posted before03:44
BuntuFuntuPM me the error.03:44
babinlonstonHI  all , I'm Using Ubuntu 12.04 and now there is many updates installed , and there is many kernel updates too , how can i find the Currently using kernel and , how can i safely remove the old kernels ?03:45
xangua!uefi | jordan203:45
xanguaJordanJ2: you have been asking the same for several hourse and have been said many times the answer is no03:45
ubottujordan2: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI03:45
duhameli know that i need to install the rt3290 driver i just cant make it therefor i can't make install03:45
BuntuFuntuHmm... You can't make install?03:45
JordanJ2Oh ok.03:45
JordanJ2Sorry for the bother xangua03:46
duhameli cant make03:46
BuntuFuntu~/Downloads/rtbth_v3.9.3/rtbth_v3.9.3$ sudo make install make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop. <-- that the error?03:46
xanguababinlonston: an app useful for that task is ubuntu-tweak03:46
orbisvicisapt picks the newest (highest numbered) package by default even though the repository containing the older package is first. How do I blacklist or otherwise prevent the newest package from being picked03:46
duhamelno. not make install just make03:46
wilee-nileebabinlonston, uname -a will name the kernel your on.03:47
BuntuFuntuSo compiling does not go well?03:47
duhamelhalfway through make i get error: ‘__mod_pci_device_table’ aliased to undefined symbol ‘rtbt_pci_ids03:47
babinlonstonxangua: no i need to remove in command line manually ..03:47
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zykotick9babinlonston: i believe there is some tool for ubuntu that makes removing old kernels easier (sorry i don't know which one it is).  You can use "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" to like your installed kernels (and simply manually uninstall the ones you don't need anymore)03:47
zykotick9s/like/list/03:47
wilee-nileebabinlonston, dpkg -l | grep linux-image  to see kernels then sudo apt-get purge03:48
lotuspsychjemorning to all03:48
duhamelhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/324115/ralink-bluetooth-not-working-in-ubuntu-13-04 i tried everything i thought necessary in this thread03:48
babinlonstonwilee-nilee: Linux system99 3.2.0-54-generic #82-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 20:08:42 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux03:48
wilee-nileebabinlonston, and?03:49
duhamelive been reading the forums for a day and a half03:49
JordanJ2If I can't install Ubuntu with Secure Boot, Can I move windows 8 to Legacy?03:49
babinlonstondpkg -l | grep linux-image03:49
_NerdyMe_the error i mentioned you find at the end of the paste. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6403325/  """ files list file for package `grub-common' contains empty filename"""03:50
BuntuFuntuDuhamel: Rest assured your problem wll be solved. The community is committed to ensuring the Ubuntu experience is smooth for everyone((:03:50
babinlonstonwilee-nilee:  let me check using purge ;)03:50
RottNKorpsehas anyone used getmail? it downloads email from gmail. http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/03:51
wilee-nileebabinlonston, Only purge kernels you are not using and keep at least two sets.03:51
babinlonstonok03:51
duhamelBuntuFuntu: i know. that's why i came here from windows a few years ago.  thanks all03:52
qwerty1793hi, I'm running a program on 12.04 which is ram intensive, if I monitor its ram usage using top then when it gets to ~80% the entire computer freezes for ~1minute (like I can't even drag windows around) and then it springs back to life with ~60% being used. Is this the swap disk kicking in?03:53
curatrixqwerty1793: most likely, yes03:55
qwerty1793curatrix: is there a way that I can make it less of a 'jolt'? while this happens the entire of ubuntu freezes03:56
curatrixnot really. .....if you are sharing memory with the GPU, you might want to fiddle with the driver settings to make the graphics less resource intensive03:57
curatrixalternatively ...you could try a lightweight desktop like xfce03:58
martinlemaitreCan someone give me a hand installing something i downloaded03:58
martinlemaitreim an ubuntu newb03:58
cfhowlettqwerty1793, if possible, login to terminal and execute the command from there?03:58
cfhowlettmartinlemaitre,  no details, no answer03:58
martinlemaitrei have maple 13 and all i have is a bunch of .bin and .rar files03:59
martinlemaitrewhatever those ar03:59
martinlemaitrei gotta wanna installing it03:59
qwerty1793cfhowlett: I'm doing some large computations in the sage math library so it's all going through a terminal at the minute03:59
cfhowlettmartinlemaitre, the download site should tell you how to install the program03:59
martinlemaitrethres nothing03:59
curatrixmartinlemaitre: What program are you trying to install and is there a .deb version available03:59
curatrix?03:59
martinlemaitrei dont get it from the site03:59
martinlemaitrei dont know what a .deb version is but this is the only one...04:00
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cfhowlettmartinlemaitre, so where did you get it then?04:00
martinlemaitrehow install the files04:00
martinlemaitre?04:00
* curatrix cant find his crystal ball04:00
martinlemaitrefrom a CD my friend gave me04:00
qwerty1793curatrix: I'm doing some large computations in the sage math library so it's all going through a terminal at the minute - there's should be little overhead from the desktop04:01
pirretmartinlemaitre: learn to use google: http://www.maplesoft.com/support/install/maple13_install.html#Linux_Install04:01
martinlemaitrehe make it on hes own04:01
cfhowlettmartinlemaitre, and HE didn't tell you how to install?04:01
martinlemaitreya pirret how do i run the bin04:01
martinlemaitreim a windows man04:01
martinlemaitreno he is a butt head04:01
curatrixwhat program is it?04:01
cfhowlettmartinlemaitre, but you're going to install his program04:01
martinlemaitremaple 1304:01
martinlemaitreits not hes program he didnt made it04:02
cfhowlett!maple04:02
ubottuTo install Maple, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Maple04:02
martinlemaitreya i dont know how to follow that stuff so im asking u sorry04:02
martinlemaitrehow do i run installing a bin?04:02
cfhowlettmartinlemaitre, if you can't follow written instructions from, nothing I can.  out.04:02
martinlemaitreplease respond04:02
martinlemaitrewell im sorry im not as technical as guy as u im 51 years old04:03
martinlemaitretryin to get this program for my son04:03
sman6pbmhow to quick share internet conection by ubuntu 12.o404:03
curatrixmartinlemaitre: Have you considered use a similar -free- program from the repo?04:04
cfhowlettmartinlemaitre, first you're 15, now you're 51?  dude.  choose a lie, stick with it.04:04
martinlemaitreno i got this program and its files and i want some help!04:04
cfhowlett!maple|martinlemaitre,04:04
ubottumartinlemaitre,: To install Maple, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Maple04:04
martinlemaitrewhere do i said im 15?04:04
martinlemaitreim not a technical guy jus tlookin for a little help tis operating system is soo confusing04:05
martinlemaitrebeen a miner for 26 years so not ever know much about the computer heh heh04:05
martinlemaitreubottu that aint even for te right version man get it to gether04:05
ubottumartinlemaitre: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:05
martinlemaitreur not!04:05
martinlemaitreovviously04:05
martinlemaitreso none of u know04:06
martinlemaitrehow to install a bin file04:06
cfhowlett!attitude04:06
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines04:06
* curatrix puts martinlemaitre on ignore04:06
martinlemaitreim not a technical wizard like u guys ar04:06
martinlemaitrenot a hacker or any thing04:07
martinlemaitreso whos gonna help papa04:07
orbisvicisapt seems to be ignoring my /etc/apt/preferences, any ideas?04:08
BuntuFuntumartinlemaitre: You will not get help from me until your attitude changes.04:08
martinlemaitreattitude about what ? im tryna be nice04:08
sam113101sounds inviting04:08
martinlemaitreid help u if i knew all about the internet04:08
orbisvicisi think I may be getting the origin tag of my local repository wrong04:08
martinlemaitreif u want some help with mining i can help with that heh heh heh :)04:08
orbisvicisanyone know who to show details of a local repository ?04:09
orbisvicis*how04:09
martinlemaitreye go in the terminal and type /showdetailsoflocalrepository04:09
babinlonstonwow there are , 5 4 kernels and 3 removed and 2 not including Generic ... Successfully Working after a restart ...04:09
martinlemaitreheh heh :)04:09
cfhowlett!behelpful04:09
ubottuAs our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.04:09
martinlemaitreyea listen to ubottu!04:10
Paulus68_1martinlemaitre: if you want to contribute and help people just make usefull comments instead of *stupid* onces04:10
martinlemaitreheh heh alls i asked was how to run install a bin file04:11
martinlemaitreaint nobody tryna help me!04:11
cfhowlett!patience04:11
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/04:11
martinlemaitrei wait any longer im gonna die!04:11
martinlemaitrei only got but 10 years kickin round!04:11
cfhowlettmartinlemaitre, http://www.maplesoft.com/support/install/maple13_install.html#Linux_Install04:11
martinlemaitreor run Maple13Linux32Installer.bin from where you downloaded the file04:12
martinlemaitrei dont know how to do that heh hehe04:12
martinlemaitreplus i got a few of em! sun solaris...linux x86...x32.... heh heh..dont know what those are04:12
pirret:D04:12
cfhowlettmartinlemaitre, the exact instructions are there.  read and follow.  no one is going to climb through the internet to do it for you.04:12
pirreti will if you pay me enough...04:13
martinlemaitreheh i dont know how run that bin04:13
martinlemaitreheh heh04:13
martinlemaitrewhat dont u understand04:13
martinlemaitreheh heh04:13
FloodBot1martinlemaitre: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:13
martinlemaitrei thought u were suppose to be smart!04:13
martinlemaitreheh heh04:13
pirret!maple04:13
ubottuTo install Maple, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Maple04:13
cfhowlettmartinlemaitre, save the insults.  try the solution.  stop flooding the channel with useless comments.04:14
Paulus68_1pirret: it's no use he's lost and doesn't even know it by himself04:14
pirretok..04:14
martinlemaitreI DONT KNOW HOW TO RUN INSTALL A BIN FILE04:14
martinlemaitreWHAT DONT U UNDERSTAND04:14
FloodBot1martinlemaitre: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:14
martinlemaitreOH YEAH EVERYTHING APPARENTLY04:14
martinlemaitreheh heh04:14
Paulus68_1!caps|martinlemaitre04:15
ubottumartinlemaitre: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.04:15
martinlemaitreheh heh well why yall bein so difficult04:15
Paulus68_1martinlemaitre: we difficult I think that you don't even want to try out the solution that's provided by us and you start *bitching* arround like a 2 year old04:16
martinlemaitrepaulus04:16
martinlemaitreHOW the HELL do i run a damn bin file installer?04:16
martinlemaitrethat all im askin!04:16
martinlemaitreim tryna listen to u nerdy birdys but u aint listenin!04:16
xanguamartinlemaitre: double clic04:17
cfhowlett!ops|martinlemaitre  attitude/insults04:17
ubottumartinlemaitre  attitude/insults: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!04:17
DiamondciteA .bin install?04:17
rrs_lol martinlemaitre way to get an answer04:17
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre: 1. Do you know where the .bin is saved? 2. Do you know what a terminal is?04:17
martinlemaitrei double clicked it aint nothin worked!04:18
martinlemaitreim lookin at the bin file right now!04:18
martinlemaitreterm-what?04:18
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre: Which version of Ubuntu are you on?04:18
martinlemaitrehow do i know that?04:19
martinlemaitreim on the confusing one04:19
martinlemaitreheh heh04:19
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre: Err I see.. okay. On your left side do you see a bar with lots of icons?04:19
martinlemaitreyeh heh heh04:20
martinlemaitrelots of icons04:20
* curatrix refuses to help people steal software04:20
cfhowlett^^^\04:20
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre: Great, click on the top left one to bring up the menu, type in "Terminal" in the search and click on the icon with a > sign in it.04:20
martinlemaitrei got all kinds of icons04:20
* Paulus68_1 refuses to help people that doesn't want to be helped at all04:20
martinlemaitrealright i got the terminal04:20
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre: Now I ask, do you know where the file is? did you just download it?04:21
martinlemaitreyea im lookin at it04:21
martinlemaitretheres x32 x86 and sun solaris04:21
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre: You need to get it to from the terminal. to somehting like "cd Downloads" if that is where it is.04:21
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre: The folder/directory names are case sensitive.04:22
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre:  I am assuming the bin file itself is some kind of linux executable like certain installers by the way.04:23
martinlemaitreits in Downloads -> Maple04:23
MVanDruffgood evening i am in need of assistance04:23
martinlemaitre1304:23
cfhowlettMVanDruff, details ...04:23
curatrixMVanDruff: Just ask your question04:23
DiamondciteOnce you actually find the file and change in the folder with 'cd' try: sh filename.bin04:23
IdleOneDiamondcite: probably going to need to chmod +x first04:24
MVanDruffi am not sure why i am getting this issue http://pastebin.com/FRSaQUHv04:24
martinlemaitreu confusin me04:24
martinlemaitreit says04:24
DiamondciteIdleOne: Really? The sh command usually runs scripts even those not marked +x04:24
martinlemaitreMaple13Linux32Installer.bin04:24
IdleOneDiamondcite: hmm, good point04:25
xanguaMVanDruff: what ubuntu release are you using¿04:25
MVanDruffoh boy its been a while since i updated04:26
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre: .. did you try "sh Maple13Linux32Installer.bin" ?04:26
MVanDruffi am using xubuntu and i am afraid i have forgotten how to check the release04:27
xanguaMVanDruff: lsb_release -a04:27
cfhowlettMVanDruff, terminal lsb_release -a04:27
xanguaMVanDruff: and you are probably using a no longer supported release04:27
martinlemaitresaysa cant open Diamondcite04:28
MVanDruff12.0404:28
MVanDruffhow far behind am i?04:28
cfhowlett12.04 is Long Term Support so you're good04:28
xanguaMVanDruff: not very much, it's the current LTS04:28
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre: Why can't it open? usually gives a little more detailed message.04:29
IdleOneMVanDruff: have you tried changing which server you get updates from? Go into Software Center and you can change the server in the settings there.04:29
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xanguaMVanDruff: try to reload your repositories again, i got confused because it says it want to download firefox 1904:30
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre: Can you please do a "file /usr/bin/ls" and tell if you see either 32 or 64 ?04:30
martinlemaitresays no such bin or directory04:31
martinlemaitreno such file or directory oops04:31
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre: Err type "which ls" as in LS in lower case04:31
gr33n7007hmartinlemaitre, drag Maple file into the terminal and paste it's directory04:31
martinlemaitrebin/ls04:31
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre: Then try "file /bin/ls"04:31
martinlemaitreor run Maple13Linux32Installer.bin from where you downloaded the file04:32
martinlemaitreoops04:32
martinlemaitre'/home/martin/Downloads/Maple 13/Maple13LinuxX86_64Installer.bin' ^C04:32
martinlemaitre'/home/martin/Downloads/Maple 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin'04:32
MVanDruffxangua: everything is checked on in my settings04:32
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre: I don't know which one you have anymore...04:32
martinlemaitrewat ya mean04:32
gr33n7007hmartinlemaitre, type ./home/martin/Downloads/Maple 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin04:32
gr33n7007hmartinlemaitre, type ./home/martin/Downloads/Maple\ 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin04:33
Diamondcitemartinlemaitre: My intent is to see if you have the right version of the installer for your system is it a 64 or 32bit ubuntu install04:33
MVanDruffah ha i found what you were talking about lets see what happens now04:33
martinlemaitrepemrission denied04:33
martinlemaitreis it the government blockin me out>04:33
martinlemaitrenow that im doin all this hackin stuff04:33
gr33n7007hmartinlemaitre, do this first chmod +x /home/martin/Downloads/Maple 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin04:33
martinlemaitreno such file or directory04:34
gr33n7007hmartinlemaitre, do this first chmod +x /home/martin/Downloads/Maple\ 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin04:34
gr33n7007hforget the backslash04:34
martinlemaitreaint nothin happen04:34
martinlemaitremartin@martin-ThinkPad-T400:~$ chmod +x /home/martin/Downloads/Maple\ 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin04:35
gr33n7007hthats good, now type ./home/martin/Downloads/Maple\ 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin04:35
martinlemaitremartin@martin-ThinkPad-T400:~$ ./home/martin/Downloads/Maple\ 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin bash: ./home/martin/Downloads/Maple 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin: No such file or directory04:36
gr33n7007htype cd ~/Downloads04:36
martinlemaitreye got dollar signs now04:36
gr33n7007htype ./Maple13Linux32Installer.bin04:37
martinlemaitreno such file or directory04:37
DiamondciteForgot abut the Maple\ 13 folder.04:38
cfhowlettgr33n7007h, he didn't download the files.04:38
martinlemaitreye i did ya butt head04:38
martinlemaitrelookin at em right now04:38
gr33n7007hsorry type cd Maple\ 13/04:38
martinlemaitreu want a screnshot04:38
Paulus68_1!attitude|martinlemaitre04:38
ubottumartinlemaitre: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines04:38
cfhowlettmartinlemaitre, oh so you DIDN'T get them from a friend?  choose a lie and stick with it04:38
gr33n7007hmartinlemaitre, sorry type cd Maple\ 13/04:38
martinlemaitremartin@martin-ThinkPad-T400:~/Downloads/Maple 13$04:39
wilee-nileeDon't enable04:39
gr33n7007htype ./Maple13Linux32Installer.bin04:39
martinlemaitrePREPARIN TO INSTALL BABBY!04:39
martinlemaitrethank u internet hackers!04:39
Paulus68_1!caps|martinlemaitre04:40
ubottumartinlemaitre: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.04:40
martinlemaitrethanks for helpin me install stolen software hahaha! good job hackers!!04:40
* curatrix looks for Corban Dallas04:42
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Paulus68_1!piracy|martinlemaitre04:43
ubottumartinlemaitre: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o04:43
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babinlonstonCool Created a Document too for removing the kernel.. thanks mates04:43
sr20dettIs it possible to see voltages coming in from a mic or set of headphone plugged into the 3.5 audio jack or can you only hear the audio coming out?04:45
beardtreeHi, how do I check which /etc files differ from the package maintainer's version?04:45
curatrixsr20dett: You can ....but usually you use a discriminator to interface the sound input(aux in   or mic04:46
jmgkAnyone tried Xchat?04:47
jmgkis it crashing ?04:47
cfhowlett!anyone|jmgk,04:47
ubottujmgk,: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.04:47
jmgkoh04:47
jmgkXchat is crashing for me all the time on Ubuntu 13.1004:47
sr20dettI want to get a voltage from a headphone after i epoxy the coil windings so they dont move or pick up sound04:47
curatrixsr20dett:  Please clarify04:48
wilee-nileejmgk, try #xchat04:52
duhamelhello all, i was just in here having trouble compiling my ralink rt3290 bluetooth driver. i got it to work by downloading file with source code and building and installing manually. thank you to all that helped me out.04:52
jmgkthanks wilee-nilee04:52
sr20dettI need to use coil windings such as speaker or headphones to pick up magnetic or electric pulses and then use the app to count the pulses. The epoxy is to keep the coil from moving and picking up sound04:52
wilee-nileejmgk, You could start it from the cli and look for the errors when it crashes.04:53
cfhowlettsr20dett, not an ubuntu problem then ...04:53
jmgkah04:53
jmgk:)04:53
jmgkGood idea i'll report them if i get them04:53
sr20dettWell i need to know if the driver supports this or just sound04:54
sr20dettI was just seeing if anyone had an idea04:54
sr20dettOr maybe a direction to look04:54
jmgkthanks again guys04:54
datapoliticalwhy is python3.3 not available in 12.04 on canonical?05:00
curatrixsr20dett: Have a look at xoscope in the repository .......I'm still looking05:00
cfhowlettdatapolitical, packages are brought into the official repo at their own time.  if you need 3.3, install it manually.05:02
curatrixsr20dett:  Also have a look at "Spek" ...it is more of an audio analyzer but it may do what your after05:04
manmohani have a problem in java plugin for icewistel05:07
manmohanhttp://pastebin.com/8X1QFE6N05:07
manmohani have multiple versions of java05:07
wolterI just installed 13.10. Using nouveau but I only have 640 resolution, can somebody help me?05:08
manmohanhow to remove  unusefull version05:08
wolter(Am I using mir?)05:08
babinlonstonhttp://www.linuxmental.com/05:08
jmgkhi manmohan05:08
manmohanhi how r u?05:09
manmohanplz solve my problem05:09
jmgkhm05:09
jmgkqwll05:09
jmgkI'd suggest deleting the old versions05:09
manmohani am truing #apt-get purge <old version > but it is not deleting05:10
jmgkhm05:10
manmohanactually i wanta applet running in my browser05:12
manmohanas of now i have only one version05:12
manmohanlet i show you the result of dpkg -l | grep jdk05:12
Hai_Karateapt-get --purge remove <file>05:12
komakinoHi! Quick question: are there any other shells besides Unity with HUD support?05:13
manmohanhttp://pastebin.com/san8tnqU05:13
jmgkmanmohan:  got the msg?05:14
manmohanwhich one?05:15
manmohani did't05:15
xanguahttp://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/appmenu-runner-hud-like-functionality.html komakino05:15
firespeakerI broke some packages and now when I boot normally it "hangs" after loading cups05:17
firespeakerI fixed the package manager issues, but the problem remains05:18
firespeaker(it doesn't really hang, it just doesn't let me do anything other than change terminals and make newlines)05:18
manmohanjmgk are you there?05:18
jmgkyes hi05:18
komakinoxangua, Thanks. I suddenly realize i got the terms mixed up. What i'm looking for are other shells with global menu.05:18
xanguakomakino: kde also has them, i believe gnome shell has a plugin too (only for gtk apps)05:19
komakinoI kinda like gnome-shell But there is a deal breaker; the reeeeally ugly task list.05:19
curatrixWhat do mean by global menu?05:21
komakinocuratrix, It's when the shell grabs the applications menu and puts it in the panel.05:22
datapoliticalcfhowlett: you mean that each package gets added to the version depending on when it's needed (some packages are added even well after the ubuntu version is released {my partner is asking this})05:23
curatrixkomakino: I might be missing something here but as far as I know ....they all do05:24
komakinocuratrix, No, only Unity, afaik. Like http://goo.gl/gQ4vAv05:25
zykotick9Hai_Karate: fyi, you can save yourself some typing by using "apt-get purge foo"05:27
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cfhowlettdatapolitical, no.  each package is "certified" (inexact term, but low on coffee) and added to the repo when all the necessary dependency/plugin/work is complete.  so it's not unusual to see a lag on a specific package and its appearance in the ubuntu repos05:28
Hai_Karatethanks05:28
curatrixkomakino: Do you mean a menu bar that has all the applications (an icon each) in it?05:29
komakinocuratrix, No, look at the top of the screenshot. The unity panel grabs the terminal applications menu.05:30
curatrixkomakino: Yeah ....they all can do it.05:31
komakinocuratrix, Ok, how do you make gnome-shell do it?05:31
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curatrixWhich shell?  G2 G3  .....fwiw   unity is a gnome shell05:36
phong_hi all05:39
reisiohey phong05:39
phong_how to setup vnc for ubuntu?05:40
phong_i need to be able to remote desktop05:40
reisiophong_: last time I checked, you could enable the VNC server from the system prefs05:41
phong_don't know man05:42
phong_reisio, help?05:42
cfhowlett!vnc05:43
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX05:43
reisiophong_: try the cog at top right, then system settings05:43
HumeanHi, can I use Disk Utility on a livecd?05:44
firespeakerwhat's /var/run/utmp?05:44
Humeanand if so where the heck is it05:44
reisioHumean: what're you trying to do?05:44
Humeantrying to do a S.M.A.R.T. check on a disk the windows installation of which is fucked05:45
Humeanjust to make sure the disk isn't05:45
phong_reisio, i'm at system setting what next?05:45
reisioHumean: http://www.sysresccd.org/ though smart is a waste of time05:45
reisiophong_: look for something to do with vnc or remote admin05:45
phong_reisio, dont see05:46
Humeanok but I already have an ubuntu livecd in05:46
reisioHumean: so use that05:46
Humeanwhere's the disk utility though05:46
Paulus68_1phong_: you can also use teamviewer http://teamviewer.com05:46
Humeanlike I'm literally too dumb to find it05:46
reisiofirespeaker: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Security-HOWTO/file-security.html05:47
reisiohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utmp05:47
reisioHumean: 'disk utility', is that what Mac OS calls it?05:47
HumeanI thought that's what ubuntu calls it05:47
Humeanwhat does ubuntu call it if not that05:47
Humeanhttps://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/saucy/gnome-disk-utility/05:48
phong_Paulus68_1, ?05:48
reisio_gnome_ disk utility, maybe :p05:48
phong_Paulus68_1, i know TV can do it..but just curious how to get the VNC05:48
reisioHumean: smartmontools05:48
reisiowaste of time, though05:48
firespeakerreisio: ah05:48
firespeakerreisio: what if the file doesn't exist?05:48
Humeanreisio, so what's not a waste of time?05:49
reisiofirespeaker: what if someone bakes a pizza05:49
Paulus68_1phong_: it was just a thought05:50
reisioHumean: if you don't have more than one copy of data you care about?05:50
firespeakerreisio: what controls the file05:50
reisioHumean: make another copy05:50
HumeanI did that05:50
firespeakerand what would make it not exist05:50
Humeanok I'm out then05:50
reisiofirespeaker: dunno, probably shadow05:51
reisiofirespeaker: maybe if nobody's logged in05:53
firespeakerreisio: do you know what package that is?05:53
Psil0CybinHey guys i need help i upgraded my linux kernel and am having problems with my display (I get a blackscreen 95 percent of the time i resstart or i get into the text console) I posted a full link here to my symtoms and my log files05:53
Psil0Cybinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218713605:53
firespeakerreisio: aah, okay05:54
Psil0Cybini also posted https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250298 could someone perhaps help me05:54
ubottuUbuntu bug 1250298 in linux (Ubuntu) "blackscreen after boot after splash sceen" [Undecided,Confirmed]05:54
Psil0Cybindiagnose this problem05:54
reisiofirespeaker: shadow? Is 'login' or something on Debian systems05:54
Psil0Cybini also tried different parameters such as nomodeset05:54
reisiofirespeaker: if that's indeed the relevant package05:54
reisiofirespeaker: #linux would know05:54
firespeakerwhy might the runlevel command be complaining that /var/run/utmp doesn't exist?05:55
cfhowletthumid, boot the live cd.  mount your hdd.  do your changes05:55
reisiofirespeaker: does it exist?05:56
firespeakerit doesn't05:57
firespeakerthe question is why would runlevel rely on something that requires someone to be logged on to exist05:57
reisiowell, that's another question :p05:58
firespeakerit's what I was getting at with the first question05:59
reisiofirst?05:59
firespeakerprevious05:59
reisioprevious?06:00
firespeakerthe previous question06:00
reisiopardon?06:00
firespeakernothing06:00
crypt0queen[L]join #linux06:00
crypt0queen[L]oops mt06:00
firespeakermy question stands06:00
neil02I am having lots of trouble getting the tftpd-hpa to work ... it installed find ... but it doesn't seem to start... netstat shows nothing... can anyone help?06:00
reisiowhich question?06:00
firespeaker(00:57:23) firespeaker: the question is why would runlevel rely on something that requires someone to be logged on to exist06:01
firespeaker(00:58:06) reisio: well, that's another question :p06:01
reisiofirespeaker: it's hard to imagine the answer to that question being particularly useful06:01
reisioeither it requires it or it doesn't06:01
firespeakermaybe06:01
reisioif you find out why it requires it, you know why it requires it06:02
firespeakeryou suggested it might06:02
reisioI'm going to suggest there's some reason we're talking about utmp :p06:02
firespeakeryeah, I'm working on stepping back and figuring out what I'm really asking06:03
reisio:)06:03
firespeakerso I'm trying to figure out why xorg loads the right driver within chroot when I boot off a live cd but tries to load a vesa driver when I boot off that fs06:04
Psil0Cybinbah this kernel is driving me nuts with this blackscreen of nonsense :P time for a beer so i can relax and destress.06:04
firespeakerPsil0Cybin: that sounds familiar...06:04
Psil0Cybinwhen all else fails you have booze :)06:04
reisiofirespeaker: boot off?06:05
Psil0Cybinfirespeaker: because i have been harrassing everyone here to help me all night lmaoo06:05
firespeakerreisio: as in, I'm running another OS off of external media, and am using chroot to access my main system06:06
firespeakerPsil0Cybin: more like they're harassing you06:06
firespeakerPsil0Cybin: stringent clinging to semantics and ignoring pragmatics is a good sign you're being trolled06:07
reisiofirespeaker: what would that have to do with X?06:07
firespeakerreisio: that's the question06:08
turtzubuntustudio & line6 ux206:08
firespeakerstarting X on the same file system from different OSes has different results06:08
reisiofirespeaker: it is? :/...06:08
Psil0Cybinno no no im harassing them :P06:08
Psil0Cybini have trigger floodbot 40+ times.06:08
reisiofirespeaker: yes, well... different OSes, that doesn't tell you much06:08
Psil0Cybingues just a quick question if i am a kernel behind the newest release that isnt like an emergency right?06:09
firespeakerright, well, I've been trying to track down what about them is leading to the difference06:09
firespeakerPsil0Cybin: that's fine06:09
cfhowlettPsil0Cybin, absolutely not an emergency06:09
firespeakerPsil0Cybin: unless there's some major update06:09
* cfhowlett orders a ninja hit squad to psil0Cybin's house immediately!06:09
reisioPsil0Cybin: that has definitely already been answered06:10
reisiomaybe people are ignoring you because you're ignoring them06:10
xmetaleh? ... i was ignoring both of you06:10
xmetal:P06:10
Psil0Cybincfhowlett: :) which house is that...you mean the cave i call home in the mountin tops06:11
Psil0Cybinwith my 3G stick?06:11
Psil0Cybinno dice. i win.06:11
Psil0Cybincatch me if you can.06:11
Psil0Cybinfirespeaker: and thank you, so how long could i use an outdated kernel for lets say06:11
Psil0Cybinuntil there is a security breach of some sort?06:11
reisioeven beyond that06:11
Psil0Cybinreally?06:11
reisiountil you can't06:12
Psil0Cybinso why do people upgrade kernels?06:12
Psil0Cybini am soooo confused :)06:12
reisioit's good practice06:12
Psil0Cybinthats it?06:12
reisioit's very good practice06:12
Psil0Cybinso if i find a good kernel i could essencially stick to it06:12
Psil0Cybinfor ever?06:12
reisiobut technically, after you install an OS06:12
cfhowlettPsil0Cybin, kernels do come with improvements.  NOT having those improvements immediately is rarely fatal06:12
firespeakerPsil0Cybin: sometimes updates are important, sometimes you get nice features06:12
reisioyou needn't ever modify it, ever06:12
Psil0Cybin*sorry for poor spelling*06:12
Psil0Cybinoh really...thats it?? I thought it was like an emergency to keep your system up to date06:12
Psil0Cybinas soon as possible06:12
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cfhowlettPsil0Cybin, you were misinformed06:13
Psil0Cybinthats why i have been freaking out06:13
Psil0Cybinoh....okay.06:13
reisioit's more important for servers06:13
Psil0Cybinoh wow06:13
Psil0Cybinokay06:13
cfhowlett^^^06:13
reisiobut good practice for all systems06:13
Psil0Cybinyea well i wannnt to keep my system up to date but this new kernel is just a no go for my gfx drivers06:13
reisioor anybody who wants FOO awful package like Flash to keep working06:13
wilee-nileesome ignore the obvious dufus06:13
reisioPsil0Cybin: did you try an even newER version yet?06:13
Psil0Cybinstupid intel :(06:13
Psil0Cybinno just what was given for LTS06:14
Psil0Cybinby the sudo dist-upgrade06:14
cfhowlettPsil0Cybin, good practice also means keeping at least one outdated but working kernel present on your system.06:14
Psil0Cybinyup thats what im using06:14
neil02I am having lots of trouble getting the tftpd-hpa to work ... it installed find ... but it doesn't seem to start... netstat shows nothing, and there is nothing in syslog as to why... can anyone help?06:14
Psil0Cybini am using 3.2.0-55-generic-pae06:14
Psil0Cybin but i want to use 3.2.0-56-generic-pae06:14
cfhowlettPsil0Cybin, why?  if .55 works ...06:14
firespeakerPsil0Cybin: 3.2?  that's pretty old06:14
Psil0Cybinbecause i thought it was needed for security reasons06:14
Psil0Cybinand yes its a old netbook06:15
Psil0Cybin:( lol06:15
Psil0Cybincfhowlett: i thought kernels keep your system secure from exploites on linux systems lets say06:15
cfhowlettneil02, that a server type thing?  maybe in #ubuntu-server    channel06:15
reisioplease stop frowning, if we wanted to baby sit little girls, we'd /join #kindergarten06:15
neil02cfhowlett, maybe... I will try06:15
cfhowlettPsil0Cybin, kernels have MANY uses and utilities06:15
* ianorlin is using 3.11-1206:15
firespeakerPsil0Cybin: do you have intel gma 3150 series stuff, on an off chance?06:15
Psil0Cybinfirespeaker: what do u mean06:18
Psil0Cybinthe intel is that in the additional drivers?06:19
firespeakerPsil0Cybin: I mean your graphics hardware06:19
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Psil0Cybinyea i have both cedarview trail gfx and the intel enabed06:22
Psil0Cybinit gives me two to use.06:22
firespeakerinteresting06:22
Psil0Cybinwhy is it odd that it gives me two?06:22
Psil0Cybinyea i have both drm driver for intel gma500 and intel cedarview graphic driver selected firespeaker06:23
Psil0Cybini just checked.06:23
firespeakerPsil0Cybin: cool06:25
Psil0Cybinwhy did you say interesting is that bad? do you normally have just one?06:25
firespeakerPsil0Cybin: you can have whatever drivers you want installed06:25
Psil0Cybinoh okay i guess so it woudnt cause conflicts right?06:27
Psil0Cybinor it could and it all dpends on every different situation06:27
firespeakerPsil0Cybin: what's the problem?06:28
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Psil0Cybini have another question guys when u said i use 3.2 and its outdated06:32
Psil0Cybinwhat does that mean when that is the latest build i can get06:32
reisiohttps://kernel.org/ has the latest versions06:34
reisiothe latest Ubuntu version will be a little lower than that06:34
reisiobut only a little06:34
reisioand that's only for a new version06:34
reisiothere are already 3.12 builds for Ubuntu06:35
wilee-nileeI gots 3.12 in the development06:35
Psil0Cybin so why would someone want a new kernel as opposed to an old one?06:37
firespeakeromg seriously Psil0Cybin06:37
Psil0Cybinlike if i cannot get the new kernel using dist-upgrade06:37
Psil0Cybinwould i still get it?06:37
firespeakerwe've been over this06:37
firespeaker1. sometimes there are important improvements, 2. sometimes there are useful new features06:37
reisiofor the same reason anyone would ever want anything new06:38
wilee-nileestreet creds06:38
firespeakerthere are always minor improvements here or there06:38
reisiowouldn't matter if there were06:38
firespeakeryeah, they probably don't affect most users06:38
reisiowouldn't matter if they did :)06:39
firespeakerreisio: specify the scope of "matter"06:40
Psil0Cybinokay sorry guys i am a slow learner, i am teaching my self everything from scratch :) i am new to linux, but i learn by asking questions sometimes over and over but to be honest everyone says something different so i ask incase someone else has something else to say but yes i appologize firespeaker06:40
Psil0CybinI just want to make sure what ever I learn is right, I want to maintain my system properly, and learn how to use linux properly, i do not just want to sit by and idle as I have problems like some suggest just to remove the problematic kernel06:41
reisiofirespeaker: no :p06:41
wilee-nileePsil0Cybin, opinions with research are an better, research is the optimal really.06:41
reisioPsil0Cybin: updating is good, not updating is bad, not updating when updating breaks things is entirely sensible06:42
wilee-nileeopinions are subjective06:42
Psil0Cybinokay thats what i really wanted to know.06:42
Psil0Cybinreisio: thank you and thank you wilee-nilee .06:42
Psil0Cybinguess linux is just a very complicated O.S06:42
Psil0Cybin;)06:42
Psil0Cybinand i have allllot to learn06:43
perolay off the shrooms06:43
wilee-nileeit's easier to break is all06:43
Psil0Cybinshrooms has nothing to do with me learning how to use linux. pero but thanks for the heads up.06:43
Psil0Cybin;)06:43
wilee-nilee"portabello is a good thing" Martha Stewart06:44
Psil0Cybinif anything i would say the shrooms gives me the special abilities that people usually crave.06:44
Psil0Cybinlike my sexually good looks.06:44
peroarent mushrooms asexual?06:44
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pamhey folks06:45
Psil0Cybinvery true.06:45
justin_smithhow do I make the audio system initialize without a graphic login? I want the audio to work on a headless server06:46
justin_smithaplay does not find any devices if I ssh in, until I do a GUI login, then suddenly all the devices are visible06:46
pamHaving a problem with my gf's desktop. running 10.04  After a few minutes the mouse freezes up and we have to restart the computer to get it workign again.  What can I do?06:47
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Psil0Cybinpam: does everything freeze up?06:47
Psil0Cybinor just the mouse?06:47
pamjust the mouse06:48
Psil0Cybinhave you tried another mouse?06:48
Psil0Cybincould the wire perhaps be damanged?06:48
pamhappens with every mouse06:48
Psil0Cybinokay interesting.06:48
Psil0Cybinpam: perhaps it is an issue with usb autosuspend?06:50
Psil0CybinTry adding usbcore.autosuspend=0 to your boot command to disable autosuspend completely06:50
pamhow do i do that?06:50
pamdo I need to open a particular file?06:50
Psil0Cybinrestart computer when you are in grub (see your kernel/linux option) hit E06:50
Psil0Cybinand add it above the last line06:50
pamok thanks06:50
Psil0Cybinthen hit CTRL+X06:50
Psil0Cybinand it will restart, if IT WORKS we will make it permanent (this option will only work for one restart)06:51
Psil0Cybinpam: i never tried this my self, i am new but i will learn with you ( i am googling and trying out options with you)06:51
pamok brb06:52
helmut_Ein sonnigen guten Morgen an alle.06:54
greyhatpythonhi how to install tor on Ubuntu 13.10 the bundle after install saying out of date and the ppa is not working too.06:54
situHow can I ssh as guest user into an ubuntu box ? It keeps asking me for a password when I do "ssh guest@hostname"06:54
reisioI wonder if the guest user even has a password, or even exists before the DM says so06:55
r00chis it possible to VNC control a GDM login?06:55
justin_smithI bet guest has a no-remote restriction06:55
reisior00ch: yup06:56
r00chreisio, how? I'm using x11vnc and localhost:006:57
r00chreisio, that does not connect06:57
reisioI've done it with tigervnc06:57
reisiowhich has an X "module" that's prepped every time X starts06:57
r00chuseless06:58
reisioikr06:59
pampsil0cybin: if this works how do I make this permanent?06:59
reisiopam: check /etc/default/grub07:00
greyhatpythonhi how to install tor on Ubuntu 13.10 the bundle after install saying out of date and the ppa is not working too.07:00
pamreisio: how do I open that file?07:01
reisiopam: with a text editor, as root07:01
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pamie sudo edit /etc/default/grub ?07:02
reisiopam: add to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=, then sudo update-grub07:02
xirreCan anyone help me with a few things with Wine?07:02
reisiopam: yeah07:02
reisioxirre: no, but probably some ones can07:02
pamhuh?07:03
pamreisio: kind of confused as to what i need to do07:03
reisiopam: edit /etc/default/grub07:03
xirreAlright. Well, I was wondering what I would need to install for an application called "BYOND". It's used for Game Development and also playing games.07:03
reisiopam: add the bit you want to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=07:04
reisiopam: then run sudo update-grub07:04
Jordan_Upam: Why are you still using Ubuntu 10.04?07:04
xirreHow would I go about finding the necessary  software and drivers for Wine to make BYOND work?07:04
reisiopam: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub07:04
reisioxirre: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22byond%22%20site%3Aappdb.winehq.org07:05
Jordan_Upam: Ubuntu 10.04 is no longer supported on the Desktop. You should upgrade to 12.04, and the upgrade may end up fixing your problem.07:05
r00chreisio, oh I figured it out07:05
reisioxirre: click version link in table, at left, on winehq listing page, there will frequently be notes07:05
reisior00ch: gj07:05
r00chreisio, -auth07:05
r00chhaha thanks07:05
xirreI already checked, Reisio. I installed quite a few drivers. Still not getting anywhere. It runs, but it doesn't load pass the start up screen.07:06
xirreIt keeps saying "loading".07:06
justin_smithI fixed the audio issue - it was a permissions issue, to run audio without a GUI login I need to be root (or likely in some kind of audio group)07:07
justin_smithciao07:07
greyhatpythonhi please help me to install Tor on Ubuntu 13.10 the tor bundle after installing says out of date and the ppa is not working too.07:07
pamreisio: I see this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  how would I ad usbcore.autosuspend=0 ?  In other words...not sure how to append it to that command that is there07:08
reisioxirre: any particular version?07:08
reisiopam: splash" -> splash usbcore.autosuspend=0"07:08
Jordan_Upam: Did you see my message?07:08
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pamthanks07:08
pamso like this then? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash usbcore.autosuspend=0"07:09
reisioyup07:09
xirreWine version 1.6 and BYOND version 500.1217 (Latest and Stable)07:09
Jordan_Upam: It is insecure to be running a distribution whose software no longer gets security updates.07:09
Psil0Cybinyea07:09
Psil0Cybinpam then do07:09
reisioxirre: 500? :p07:09
pamthanks07:09
Psil0Cybinsudo update-grub07:09
Psil0Cybinor what ever it is07:10
xirreYes. Why?07:10
devilfish123_I'm having issues where my keyboard gets stuck very often. Running 13.10. Any help?07:10
xirreWine version 1.6 and BYOND version 500.1217.07:10
devilfish123_if i disconnect and reconenect my keyboard it fixes itself, but seems to get stuck again shortly07:10
reisiointeresting07:10
devilfish123_keyboard works just fine on windows machine, it's just ubuntu07:10
reisiothey have two versions, daft07:10
reisioxirre: try 4, as explained on the winehq page07:11
reisiohttp://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1015207:11
Psil0CybinJordan_U: so anything bellow 12.04 should not be used?07:11
pamhopefully this works07:11
Psil0CybinI am a little confused because people are still using 1007:11
Jordan_UPsil0Cybin: Correct.07:12
Psil0Cybinokay.07:12
Jordan_UPsil0Cybin: There are still people using 5.04, that doesn't make it a good idea :)07:12
reisiohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases07:12
Psil0CybinJordan_U: so why would someone use something so out dated?07:14
Psil0Cybinbecause of lazyness? I just would never do that so i am super confused, why someone would leave the system that severly outdated?07:14
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: who do poeple still use xp?07:15
reisiolaziness, ignorance, million terrible reasons07:15
reisioand maybe even one or two good ones07:15
Psil0Cybinwell i guess i am just more paranoide and try to keep my system more secure then others.07:15
Psil0Cybini just have an OCD about having an idea that someone can exploit my system07:15
reisiothat's healthy, until it isn't :)07:16
Psil0Cybini would rather stay up 3 weeks straight making sure then not knowing07:16
Psil0Cybinwell it isnt haha07:16
reisiowell that's not really healthy :p07:16
Psil0Cybinno it isnt :P07:16
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Paulus68_1xp in offices still used since not all the applications required for their specific business is working on Win7/807:16
reisiomost people don't have data or a server that's more important than their health07:16
Psil0Cybinwoowow Paulus68_1 i cant imagin doing that and holding anykind of sensative data.07:16
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Psil0Cybini have a question is everyone using 12.04 on the same kernel? or based on your version of ubuntu (32 bit or 64 bit) you might have different kernel versions?07:17
Psil0Cybinhow does it work?07:17
Paulus68_1Psil0Cybin: in my case we are still working with xp since the specific software for this callcenter is buggy on win 7 machines07:18
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Psil0Cybinlike i mean unless you mannually change, if everyone by default runs sudo dist-upgrade, do they get the same version or how does it work? it picks it based on ...various factors?07:18
reisiomost distro versions endure through a handful of kernel images made for that ersion07:18
Psil0Cybininteresting wow :)07:18
reisioand then you can of course fudge virtually any version you like in07:18
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: it depends on when you installed the kernel. 12.04 has 3.2 12.04.2 has 3.5 and 12.04.3 has 3.8     12.04.4 will have 3.1107:18
Psil0Cybinreisio: i have no money to go out and buy linux books, what do you recommend i read to teach me everything i need to know about linux security and maintaining a healthy system07:19
reisioPsil0Cybin: that's a black hole of information :)07:19
xirrereisio: BYOND v498 works and so does v440. Thanks. I can connect to my server and etc.07:19
reisioxirre: gj07:19
th0rPsil0Cybin: you might check out the linux documentation project....ltdp.org I think07:19
reisioPsil0Cybin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security has some very basic documentation07:20
th0rPsil0Cybin: oops...tldp.org07:20
Psil0Cybinreisio: oh aha :P I just am sooo lost and i hate bugging you guys 24/7 about every nitty gritty question i cannot understand i really wish i could read like a guide online that would slowly teach me how to properly use linux07:20
galabalaYolo07:20
galabalaSwag07:20
Paulus68_1Psil0Cybin: google is your friend if you like to have info about these subject and be creative07:20
Psil0Cybinthanks th0r and reisio :)07:20
reisioPsil0Cybin: try to keep in mind that a lot of Unix security is focused on people who may well be running a mission critical server for NASA and the NSA combined :p07:20
reisiofor an ordinary desktop user, almost all of it is overkill07:20
Psil0Cybinyea but i sometimes have no idea what to google, i just wish i had material i could read that would teach me the steps of maintaining a proper system07:20
Psil0Cybinlike i could google till im blue in the face and i still would be missing some crucial information07:20
reisiowell if it was easy to absorb, there would be no system exploitation :)07:21
galabalaYoLo07:21
reisio:)07:21
th0rPsil0Cybin: on tldp check out the System Administrators Guide and the Network Administrators Guide.07:21
Psil0Cybinreisio: so i want to learn how to be as secure as any three letter agency:) if that is proper praticce.07:21
reisioPsil0Cybin: there are worse goals07:21
Psil0Cybini dont wnat to be over paranoid but i wt to be safe and feel secure07:21
Psil0Cybini dunno just dont want to get into bad linux habits07:22
Psil0Cybinthats all07:22
reisioPsil0Cybin: you really just need to be up-to-date, configure your firewall, and encrypt sensitive data07:22
Psil0Cybinif i learn how to do something , i want to learn properly. :)07:22
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Psil0Cybinwell i am up to date othe then my god darn kernel so07:22
reisiounfortunately the kernel matters :)07:22
reisiobut for example07:22
reisiothe last big kernel vuln had to do with getting root when you were just a user07:23
reisiowhich is really only useful to someone who has ssh'd into your box somehow07:23
Psil0Cybinwell that would worry me07:23
reisiomost desktops don't even need sshd running all the time07:23
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reisioeven though it's useful07:23
Psil0Cybini would hate to have a security issue like that :(07:23
Psil0Cybinyea that is true07:23
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reisioand on top of that07:24
reisiofor most desktop boxes, your user has access to all your truly important data, your personal data, already07:24
Psil0Cybinthat is true07:24
Psil0Cybinbut still root can keep settings changed in the system07:25
reisioso the exploit wouldn't actually have gotten them anything they wouldn't already have had after figuring out how to access your user account07:25
Psil0Cybinall my personal data is already encrypted07:25
reisiowhich is not necessarily a simple feat07:25
reisiojust try to keep it in perspective :)07:25
Psil0Cybinthats true actually07:25
Psil0Cybinyour making alot of sense reisio thank you07:25
reisiogo outside every now and then and make that vitamin d :)07:25
Psil0Cybinfor your perspective.07:25
Psil0Cybinhahha i am outside all the time. i work (have a dog, have a gf that i drive around everywhere ) linux is my time to shine07:26
Psil0Cybin:)07:26
Psil0Cybinmy private time haha07:26
reisioheheh07:26
reisiok07:26
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Psil0Cybini just find it super interesting, i hate windows compared to linux07:26
reisiodon't we all07:26
Psil0Cybinwindows i a lazy mans machine linux is for people whoalways want to learn07:26
Psil0Cybinand i love learning07:26
reisioI don't know07:26
Psil0Cybinif only i went back n time 5 years id go to college for linux07:26
Psil0Cybinsadly i did not07:26
reisioI think the OS you have to spend less time reinstalling and rebooting is more for a lazy person :)07:26
reisioI've done one reinstall since 200507:27
Psil0Cybinwow07:27
reisiobecause I switched from x86 to amd6407:27
Psil0Cybinthat is amazing07:27
reisioand that basically requires a reinstall07:27
Psil0Cybinso if your system the most up to date?07:27
reisionot using Ubuntu, but technically one could have :p07:27
Psil0Cybinwhat version are you using reisio ?07:27
reisiono, I reboot for the usual things, kernel updates07:28
reisiothough if you were bored enough you could get into kexec or ksplice to avoid even that07:28
Psil0Cybinwow07:28
Psil0Cybini did not know that07:28
reisioso you have a critical server07:28
reisioand someone finds an exploit to the kernel07:28
meteors2313hello07:29
reisioyou can patch it and start it without rebooting all the systems07:29
reisiometeors2313: 'lo07:29
Psil0Cybinno way really?!07:29
Psil0Cybinreisio:07:29
Psil0Cybinlinux is incredible....and mind blowing07:29
reisiopretty much07:29
Psil0Cybinthat is actually nuts07:29
Psil0Cybinwhy do people even use windows for a server?07:29
reisioignorance :)07:29
Psil0CybinLike i am going into Health and Datamangement and sadly they use Windows07:30
Psil0Cybinserver07:30
Psil0Cybinit blows my mind07:30
meteors2313Hi anyone knows how to quote text while replying to mailing lists in gmail07:30
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bungso i've got a group that i forgot what it's for... how do i list what a group's permissions are and/or get more detail about it?07:33
hitsujiTMObung: cat /etc/group | grep <groupname>07:34
hitsujiTMObung: that will at least get you users in that group07:35
bungi see07:35
bungwell its kinda an obvious named group, www-pub07:36
bungi bet i have some www/ folder that is set up for it07:36
hitsujiTMObung: i guess you could use find to find files/folders owned by that group07:36
bungits coming back to me now07:37
bungim pretty sure it was a group i made for website users, probably during some nginx setup tutorial07:37
bungthanks for your help07:37
hitsujiTMObung: try find / -group www-pub07:38
starnixHello everyone.07:39
bunghow can i dump that into a file again? >> search.txt ?07:39
hitsujiTMObung > is to write   >> is to append07:40
meteors2313starnix: greetings07:40
bungyep confirmed all my results are in the /srv/www/ folder07:41
bungand that folder has ownership by the www-pub group07:41
bunggood now i can add a few web admins safely07:41
starnixI did installed, gnome 3.10 over ubuntu 13.04 and I am facing an issue with update manager.07:42
bazhangstarnix, from the PPA?07:42
starnixbazhang, yep.07:42
bazhangstarnix, whats the issue, and is that the PPA with all the warnings about installing it?07:43
starnixbazhang, everything works fine enough, when I try to update, by sudo update-manger I get: "XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment."07:43
starnixbazhang, my gnome tweek tool will not load, and applications like, thunderbird frequently crashes...07:45
crypt0queen[L]heya guys. I'm trying to teach my brother something new -- do you guys recommend backtrack or the latest version of ubuntu for newcomers to mess around in?07:45
bazhangstarnix, you should contact the PPA maintainer then07:45
starnixsorry, I didnt get you. And, how would I do that?07:46
hitsujiTMOstarnix: goto the launchpad site of the ppa. the list of maintainers are there07:47
wilee-nileecrypt0queen[L], Backtrack is end of life and this is the ubuntu chanel, take a wild guess. ;)07:48
starnixcrypt0queen[L], obviously, ubuntu.07:48
piroschokhello. how do i "keep searching" in bash? in windows it would be the F3-shortcut.07:48
crypt0queen[L]:)07:48
hitsujiTMOpiroschok: what do you mean by "keep searching"?07:49
piroschokwhen I search for something in a file, a man-file for example07:50
arubnguys, how to create a locale file?07:50
hitsujiTMOpiroschok: what are you using to search?07:50
geirhapiroschok: n07:50
John_Zhitouch filename07:50
piroschokto search I use / witha regular expression behind it07:51
reisiopiroschok: 'n'07:51
piroschokokay thx07:52
geirhapiroschok: And also, you can hit  h  to get a list of keybindings. q to get out from the help screen07:52
reisiopiroschok: shift+N for prev07:52
piroschokgot it07:52
thunder1212hi07:52
thunder1212i need help07:53
John_Zhitell us your problem.07:55
thunder1212John_Zhi: i have a pdf file 10MB i want to make it 500kb07:58
John_Zhithunder1212, I think that's not easy if there is any picture inside your PDF file.07:59
thunder1212John_Zhi: only one page document converted from jpg to pdf and only text08:00
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John_Zhican you try to compress the source JPG file and convert it to PDF again?08:01
hitsujiTMOthunder1212: use a higher compression scheme with whatever you used to make the pdf08:01
Jordan_Uthunder1212: Why did anyone convert a 1 page document from a jpg to a PDF?08:02
thunder1212hitsujiTMO:  i issued this command gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dPDFSETTINGS=/screen -dNOPAUSE -dQUIET -dBATCH -sOutputFile=output.pdf input.pdf and i got a pdf of 800kb08:04
thunder1212John_Zhi: gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dPDFSETTINGS=/screen -dNOPAUSE -dQUIET -dBATCH -sOutputFile=output.pdf input.pdf   i issued this command and got a pdf of 800kb08:05
hitsujiTMOthunder1212: can i ask why you need it to be 500kb?08:06
thunder1212hitsujiTMO: bcoz there is some silly form i have to fill which requires a particular document in pdf format of 500 kb08:08
hitsujiTMOthunder1212: the best thing to do is reduce the resolution of the document first. then convert it to pdf, probably can be all done in gimp.08:09
gustavo__hello08:10
SazzajHi.  12.04 64-bit.  What is the best shell-based file explorer?  I am looking for something that can allow multiple directories split on a screen.  Thanks.08:11
thunder1212gustav_: hi08:11
John_Zhithunder1212: well, what's the size of you JPG file, I think the size of  PDF is depend on the size of source.08:11
thunder1212John_Zhi: ok am doing that08:12
hitsujiTMOSazzaj: as in cli file managers?08:13
SazzajhitsujiTMO: yeah. i think i just discovered mignight commander. :)08:13
hitsujiTMOSazzaj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/222345/is-there-a-file-explorer-manager-for-the-command-line08:13
Sazzajyep.. i just found such tools.. thx08:13
thunder1212John_Zhi: i reduced the source jpg file to 500 kb and i get a pdf of 5mb then issue this command gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dPDFSETTINGS=/screen -dNOPAUSE -dQUIET -dBATCH -sOutputFile=output.pdf input.pdf  and i still get a pdf of 600kb08:17
John_Zhithunder1212: em...I have no idea now, try to make the JPG smaller...08:19
hitsujiTMOJohn_Zhi: use gimp. reduce the image size there08:21
hitsujiTMOthunder1212: ^^ even  .... sorry John_Zhi08:21
John_Zhi:)08:23
thunder1212hitsujiTMO: John_Zhi: thanks i am rescanning the document in low resolution and saving it as pdf :)08:25
John_Zhithunder1212: good, this is better way.08:26
r00chis it possible to X -configure on an SSH shell or do I need to be connected to the console?08:40
campinowhoami08:53
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jnhghywhat is a good anti-virus for ubuntu?09:02
marcuspbairdhello09:02
lotuspsychje!info clamav | jnhghy09:02
ubottujnhghy: clamav (source: clamav): anti-virus utility for Unix - command-line interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97.8+dfsg-1ubuntu4 (saucy), package size 124 kB, installed size 564 kB09:02
marcuspbairdhey are there any mumble or teamspeak linux communitys apart from linux distro community and jupiterbroadcasting09:03
lotuspsychjejnhghy: snort and rkhunter are very interseting also09:03
jnhghythanks lotuspsychje09:03
lotuspsychje!security | jnhghy09:03
ubottujnhghy: Security Updates are dealt with here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server09:03
excognachi all. is there any ways to save everyíthing in a log/text file I ever type in terminal (Konsole) ?09:04
lotuspsychjemarcuspbaird: this is an ubuntu support channel, maybe !alis can help find a specific channel?09:04
marcuspbairdalis ?09:04
lotuspsychje!alis | marcuspbaird09:04
ubottumarcuspbaird: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*09:04
marcuspbairdI just thought there might be someone in here that might no of one09:04
lotuspsychjemarcuspbaird: maybe there are specific teamspeak channels09:05
marcuspbairdI can find ant linux or opensource voice chat channels on teamspeak09:05
marcuspbairdany sorry typos09:05
lotuspsychjeexcognac: you can already type history in terminal09:06
marcuspbairdits ok just thought there might be some good voice chat servers around to do with ubuntu09:07
excognaclotuspsychje: OH THANKS! will it display everything even after a decade, right?09:07
lotuspsychjeexcognac: try 'man history'09:08
excognaclotuspsychje: ty, got it09:09
enzo67ciao09:09
lotuspsychje!it | enzo6709:09
ubottuenzo67: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)09:09
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__raven_how to use the auto-suspend script to poweroff the machine?09:31
Sazzajyou mean pm-suspend ?09:31
__raven_Sazzaj: i dont know what is the "builtin" mechanism in xubuntu 13.1009:31
__raven_Sazzaj: wakeup crashes everytime so at least shutdown should be possible09:32
Sazzajopen a shell and type man pm-suspend09:32
Sazzajoh ok09:32
Sazzajso do a man shutdown instead09:33
__raven_Sazzaj: i tried to debug it and disabled encrypted swap but it did not help09:33
Sazzajif you keep your old kernels try booting them and see if an older version makes it work09:34
__raven_doesnt09:34
Sazzajok09:34
amritanshu_RnDcan anyone tell about the login & password of the  precise pangolin  ubuntu cloud image09:35
__raven_Sazzaj: into which script i have to enter the shutdown command instead of hibernate to use the 15 minute "idle-detection"?09:35
Sazzajjust to rule out your installation  __raven_ consider booting live and cofiguring and see if it crashes there too09:35
__raven_ok ill try but for the meantime i need any kind of auto shutdown09:36
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Sazzajok09:36
Sazzajjust rules out os versus ram/etc09:36
__raven_in which script i have to replace the hibernate with the shutdown command?09:37
bjensen82what do people use now a days to monitor, restart processes etc now a days?09:37
__raven_bjensen82: htop top "ps aux"09:37
Sazzaj__raven_: have you tested just hibernating from the shell?  Does that crash your rig?09:37
bjensen82woaw, need more coffee09:37
bjensen82__raven_: I meant automatically like monit or systemd09:38
__raven_Sazzaj: yes - monitor stays off and ssh not possible so it crashes at any time09:38
dolis there any knowledgeable guy on ALSA?09:39
__raven_dol: alsamixer in shell09:40
dol__raven_, I need help about asound.conf09:41
Walexdol: that's a loaded question..09:43
Walexdol: there is also and #ALSA channel but it is not that active.09:43
Walexdol: however, try to ask about your 'asound.conf' question, dangerous as it is.09:44
maicsmartieshttp://www.LittleStacy.com?id=9919409:44
dolWalex, I have asked there as well but as you said, not active. so I am trying my chance here.09:44
dolWalex, :)09:44
Walexdol: so go ahead and ask...09:45
dolWalex, I have an asound.conf which is pretty much copy paste form here :http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc#Virtual_multi_channel_devices09:45
dolWalex, what I do is, I have two soud cards and I multiplex incoming source to those sound cards09:46
dolWalex, works perfect. but here is the issue09:46
dolWalex, I have multiple sources as well. So I need to dmix incoming sources too09:46
dolI couldn't figure out how to use multi plugin togerther with dmix09:46
dolWalex, did you understand my issue?09:47
Walexdol: that sounds very dangerous... I did not understand fully because you seem to use 'incoming' and 'source' in an unexpected way.09:47
Walexdol: however I have written a details introduction to such things with a number of example in the links that follow.09:48
dolWalex, let's imagine that I have 3 audio sources and 2 sound cards. I want audio to be mixed and played in both sound cards.09:48
Walexdol: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#share09:49
Walexdol: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/ALSA/09:49
dolWalex, these are the links that I haven't met yet. I will read them and report you back09:49
Walexdol: but also consider a sound daemon to do that.09:50
dolWalex, how do you mean?09:50
Walexdol: something like JACK or PulseAudio09:50
dolWalex, but there is a plugin called dmix?09:51
dolWalex, i tried it and it works as well. but couldn't combine them (dmix and multi)09:51
Walexdol: most likely you want 'copy' rather than 'multi'. But you can stack 'dmix' and 'multi' or 'copy'.09:53
dolWalex, can you give me an example of stacking?09:53
dolWalex, and is there any copy plugin? I haven't heard of it yet09:53
Walexdol: e.g. 'plug:dmix' anyhow the sample config files in that directory show how to do it.09:54
Walexdol: the 'asound.conf' file is vaguely similar to Lisp macros, and you can have a plugin as an output of another plugin.09:55
dolWalex, I  will try that09:55
Walexas you will see from the sample 'asound.conf' the syntax is very peculiar to say the least09:56
CaBahi09:57
meet_praveenhow can we see running servers(like-apache,postgres....) in ubuntu09:57
CaBaubuntu 12.04 LTS doesn't support installation / booting from EFI out of the box, right? I'm trying to install it on a DELL workstation on a 3 TB drive...09:58
Walexmeet_praveen: those are called 'daemons' usually, and there is no guaranteed way to see only daemons, because daemons are by and large just ordinary processes, but there are imprecise ways.09:58
Walexmeet_praveen: one way is 'service --status-all'.09:59
hiuhewquheuwiwqehello i am at work using ubuntu here10:00
meet_praveenWalex: i shows all running services?10:00
Walexmeet_praveen: another may be 'ps axu | egrep -v '(pts|tty)[0-9/]''10:00
meet_praveenWalex: it shows all running services?10:00
WalexCaBa: I think it does. Note that EFI can do both signed and not-signed booting depending on how you configure it.10:01
hiuhewquheuwiwqebut i cant install apps at work10:01
hiuhewquheuwiwqeanyway to circumvent this?10:01
WalexCaBa: 12.04 has signed kernels and booting available, not sure if it can do *install* with them.10:01
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Walexhiuhewquheuwiwqe: you can only install packages in the default system locations if you have 'root' permissions.10:02
k1lhiuhewquheuwiwqe: if you dont have sudo-rights (are not in the admin group) talk to the admin10:02
Walexhiuhewquheuwiwqe: but you can surely create your own package subtree under your home directory; but you have to recompile things usually.10:02
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Walexmeet_praveen: try them...10:03
hiuhewquheuwiwqeokay ty Walex cant i run apps from an usb-stick?10:04
meet_praveenWalex: 'service --status-all' works fine but dosen't show exact result which i need10:05
ActionParsnipk1l: isnt it the sudo group instead of admin nowe, more in line with Debian :)10:05
k1lActionParsnip: you are right10:06
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Guest54577hello10:09
mkozjakwhat happened with add-apt-repository in saucy?10:12
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mkozjakthere's no script anymore (python props installed)10:12
ObrienDavestill works for me10:12
wilee-nileemkozjak, and me to10:12
mkozjakhow come, guys?10:13
mkozjakdpkg -L python-software-properties | grep add | wc -l10:13
mkozjak010:13
mariondjaklsjdasl10:13
mkozjakObrienDave: can you try: dpkg -S add-apt-repository // please? same for wilee-nilee10:15
celicahello10:15
marionsassas10:16
celicahj10:16
ObrienDaveI did this: sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:kxstudio-debian/kxstudio10:16
celicahi10:16
mariontdr10:16
lotuspsychje!test | marion10:16
ubottumarion: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )10:16
marionhello10:16
mkozjakObrienDave: which package provides add-apt-repository?10:16
ObrienDavenot sure10:17
wilee-nilee!info add-apt-repository10:17
ubottuPackage add-apt-repository does not exist in saucy10:17
mkozjakObrienDave: can you find out? dpkg -S add-apt-repository10:17
glitsj16mkozjak: sudo dpkg -S add-apt-repository | grep bin > software-properties-common here10:17
mkozjakglitsj16: thanks!10:17
wilee-nilee!find add-apt-repository10:17
Terabytewhen I isntall apparmor,  apt-get install -y apparmor apparmor-profiles, running apparmor_status tells me apparmor module is not loaded. 12.04 64 bit LTS server.10:17
mariontesting nyu nga10:17
ubottuFile add-apt-repository found in software-properties-common10:17
celica:)10:17
mariontest10:17
celicaweh10:17
jatt!test10:18
ubottuTesting... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )10:18
k1lmarion: please keep this channel free for support. join #test for testing irc10:18
DJonesmarion: celica: jatt: Stop that this is a support channel10:18
denz_hello10:18
denz_aloha10:18
mariondsd10:18
misterliHello. I tried everything to get my ati radeon hd 6700 running with ati drivers on latest ubuntu. it will not work. I tried everything what i could find. Using the driver manager, installing the deb package, modifing the fglrx ...  the screen keeps black after installing. Any idea?10:18
celicahello10:20
denz_lag10:21
denz_clear10:21
wooter/clear10:21
wilee-nileemisterli, some askubuntu threads maybe worth looking at. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=radeon+hd+670010:21
whatwhatinthebutk10:22
onazarihow to use utm coordinate in linux?10:23
misterlithanks. tried all this hints but same result. none10:23
Terabytewhen I isntall apparmor,  apt-get install -y apparmor apparmor-profiles, running apparmor_status tells me apparmor module is not loaded. 12.04 64 bit LTS server.10:23
ObrienDaveonazari, in what way?10:24
mariondsd10:25
lotuspsychje!ops | marion10:25
ubottumarion: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!10:25
winb!chess10:25
zztoplesshey everyone10:26
ObrienDavemarion, STOP THAT10:26
lotuspsychjeDJones: tnx10:26
NET||abusei'm trying to use ssh -D 8989 myremotebox   and firefox doesn't seem to want to work10:26
zztoplessWondering if anyone has had success seting up their xorg.conf file to allow monitors running off sifferent GPUs to wrun together (nouveau does this out of the box, but I need to be able to use the nvidia driver for cuda)10:27
WalexNET||abuse: have you told Firefox that is your proxy port?10:27
NET||abusei use -vN to get debug output on the ssh terminal,, i just get"debug1: Connection to port 8989 forwarding to socks port 0 requested." and 2 more lines10:27
zztoplessthe other gpu is the intel onboard that comes with most z77 boards10:28
lucidocan someone please tell me what's wrong with my xorg.conf? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404566/10:28
aslanhi how can I set the password in grub210:28
NET||abuse" channel 2: new [dynamic-tcpip]"    and  "channel 2: free: dynamic-tcpip, nchannels 3"10:28
NET||abuseWalex: yeh, i configured the network settings, i've tried unticking "use this proxy server for all protocols" and set ssl,ftp and socks by hand  to localhost:898910:29
zztoplesslucido: what gpu are you running?10:29
NET||abuseso it seems to be hitting the ssh tunnel, but not actually utilising it.10:29
Rhomberquestion, does anyone know of any USB sound cards (with SPDIF and 5.1 channels) that work with Ubuntu? (pulse e.t.c.)?10:30
WalexNET||abuse: that's not the right thing. '-D' sets up a SOCKS proxy, not an SSL or FTP proxy.10:30
NET||abuseWalex: i do a curl --socks5 127.0.0.1:8989 http://www.google.co.uk   and that worked.10:30
Rhomberbeen searching all day, after finding out my creative extigy isn't compatible10:30
WalexNET||abuse: Firefox you need to set only the SOCKS setting to have all other Firefox protocols proxied by SOCKS.10:31
NET||abuseahhh10:31
lucidozztopless, nvidia-304 driver, problem is that x starts up with NULL modeline and defaults on 1024x768, what mt lcd cant display10:31
lucidoGT63010:32
WalexNET||abuse: note that it is not necessarily the case that *DNS* requests are proxied via SOCKSs. If that matters you may need to check that.10:32
NET||abuseyeh, saw that in the about:conifg10:32
glitsj16aslan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Passwords, the usual 'be carefull not to lock yourself out' notice applies10:32
zztoplesslucido: looks alot different to my xorg.conf (sorry am in windows atm, don't have access to it), I am running kubuntu, but still10:33
NET||abuseWalex: but really i just want to hit a server from my home ip rather than work ip for testing :)10:33
zztoplessthere is no reference to your gpu which seems strange10:33
WalexNET||abuse: for testing, sure... :-)10:33
NET||abuseWalex: so blanking out those http, ssl and ftp values and ports just leaves the tab spinning when i try google.10:34
WalexNET||abuse: if you have low latency to home it may be safer to setup x VNC session and running the browser entiely at home.10:34
NET||abusehmm,10:34
WalexNET||abuse: works here... I'll try again.10:34
zztoplessI have been playing around with mine to try and get the onbaord and discreent gpus running together to run 3 monitors and I have a device section for the gpu10:34
NET||abuseWalex: seems like hastle, also i dont have X on my home box, headless little microserver10:34
zztoplesssomething like: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18382271/how-can-i-modify-xorg-conf-file-to-force-x-server-to-run-on-a-specific-gpu-i-a10:35
onazari@ObrienDave  I want darw a plan by utm in librecad.10:35
WalexNET||abuse: a VNC server does not need an real X session, it is all in memory.10:35
NET||abuseWalex: oh i know, but you still need massive amount of supporting packages t run a remote X application over ssh x forwarding10:36
NET||abuseor even vnc10:36
NET||abuseWalex: I just don't want to dirty up my remote server with all that.10:36
aslanhi how can I set the password in grub210:37
ObrienDaveonazari, how large of an area?10:38
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PriestyHi everyone I have a question that i hope someone can help me with, I would like to add Linux to the WINDOWS 8 boot menu, I have UEFI with Secure Boot and both systems can be booted from the UEFI boot menu. I have GPT harddrive so easybsd or visual bcd cannot help. Does anyone know how to use bcdedit to do this??? I can't seem to find anyone who can answer this question please help10:38
WalexNET||abuse: I just tried SOCKSing here and it works as expected.10:38
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WalexNET||abuse: I have all other proxies as empty and "SOCKS Host" as "localhost"10:39
WalexNET||abuse: and obviously "Manual proxy configuration" clicked10:40
PriestyHi everyone I have a question that i hope someone can help me with, I would like to add Linux to the WINDOWS 8 boot menu, I have UEFI with Secure Boot and both systems can be booted from the UEFI boot menu. I have GPT harddrive so easybsd or visual bcd cannot help. Does anyone know how to use bcdedit to do this??? I can't seem to find anyone who can answer this question please help10:40
NET||abuseWalex:10:41
WalexPricey: if you repeat a question please wait at least 10-15m...10:41
PriestyHi everyone I have a question that i hope someone can help me with, I would like to add Linux to the WINDOWS 8 boot menu, I have UEFI with Secure Boot and both systems can be booted from the UEFI boot menu. I have GPT harddrive so easybsd or visual bcd cannot help. Does anyone know how to use bcdedit to do this??? I can't seem to find anyone who can answer this question please help10:41
ObrienDave!patience | Priesty10:41
ubottuPriesty: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/10:41
NET||abuseWalex: oops, premeture return keypress.. :) but yes, manual proxy config selected, it's a radio anyway, which enabled the other fields, so it has to be selected to enter anything in http or socks fields10:42
Priestyok sorry10:42
WalexNET||abuse: then double check the settings in 'about:config' with "proxy" as "Search:" value.10:42
DJonesPriesty: Have you asked in ##windows There may be somebody there who can help, I didn't even know there was a bcdedit for linux10:43
Priestythe bcd store is no in the uefi partition10:43
Priesty*now*10:44
onazariObrienDave:near 45 km10:44
Priestythe uefi uses the bcd store to figure out which boot mangers and boot loaders are10:45
esdfany way to transfer youtube videos between channels of same profile?10:46
ObrienDaveonazari, I would do the plan in meters. no need to convert to UTM10:47
Paulus68_1Priesty: perhaps this might be usefull to you http://www.simplehelp.net/2013/07/11/the-complete-guide-how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-and-windows-8/10:49
Paulus68_1Priesty:  or this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/236787/install-ubuntu-next-to-windows-8-uefi-dual-boot10:50
Paulus68_1Priesty: think this might get you going the right way https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI10:53
esdfanyone using googlecl to upload?10:55
PriestyThank you for your suggestions but these do not address what i was asking, I have both windows 8 and linux booting with secure boot enabled fine from the uefi boot menu and I have grub booting windows but I cannot find the information on how to add linux to the windows boot menu using bcdedit10:56
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Priestybecause i have gpt harddrive i cannot use visual bcd or easybcd10:56
PriestyI must add it to the windows menu by using bcdedit10:57
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PriestyI had it working by copying windows boot MANAGER entry and editting it for linux but when i restored the bcd store and tried to do it again it I couldn't unfortunately10:58
OerHeks Priesty use grub, because linux updates grub when a new kernel is installed.11:00
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Guest63365hi11:01
onazariObrienDave: how to scale to print plan on A4 paper11:04
aslanjoin  #null0x0011:04
the_drowHi guys I'm trying to install WavLink ug39dk1 universal docking station on Ubuntu 13.10 & 13.04. Where can I find drivers for it?11:04
the_drowThe only thing that doesn't work are the screens.11:04
ObrienDaveonazari, that I don't know. haven't used LibreCad. sorry11:05
onazariObrienDave: how do the plan without utm?11:06
ObrienDaveonazari, it's just numbers, doesn't matter if your using 1 inch, 1 foot, 1 yard, 1 Kilometer. you only need the numbers11:07
ObrienDaveonazari, now, if you actually need to make an object, that's when you need to convert from inches to millimeters, for example11:10
onazariObrienDave:tanks11:12
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aslanHI, I have problem with grub the issue is I cant see the grub menu at the time of booting even after giving the grub timeout in grub.cfg11:13
esdfis it possible to select which channel to upload to youtube using googlecl? because right now my uploads end up in parent channel and there's no way for me to easily transfer them between channels11:14
ActionParsnipaslan: hold SHIFT at boot, does it help?11:15
ActionParsnipesdf: man googlecl      amy show how11:15
aslanActionParsnip, I tried that, its not working11:15
esdfActionParsnip nop, just read thru their manual page online, doesn't show anything11:16
esdfActionParsnip well is there any command line tool that lets me select a channel under account?11:16
aslanActionParsnip, sometimes the grub menu is appearing but I can see only one entry in that11:16
glitsj16aslan: i need to hit the Esc key, seems to differ11:16
PriestyI would use grub but unfortunately microsoft tends to set its boot manager as the default one each time windows updates certain files11:18
Priestyhence the need to have a fall back with the windows boot menu11:18
Priestyso I really need to add linux to the bcd store in the efi partition using bcdedit in windows11:19
aslanActionParsnip, glitsj16, The actual issue is GRUB menu doesn't have much info, i mean the GRUB menu have only one entry im not getting the init  levels to load or changing  the other variables11:19
PriestyThat way I will see it on the windows boot menu and grub and the user can switch back and forth as they wish11:20
glitsj16aslan: is this grub2 ?11:20
aslanglitsj16, yes its grub211:21
Priestyso if anyone knows where to find the information for adding linux to the windows boot menu with uefi/secure boot and gpt harddrive partitions11:21
PriestyYou'll make my day11:21
glitsj16aslan: more recent ubuntu's offer grub submenus, might be also helpfull if you could pastebin /etc/default/grub11:22
aslanglitsj16, do you want grub.cfg ?11:23
glitsj16aslan: no, let's start with /etc/default/grub11:24
glitsj16aslan: that's the main grub2 configuration that puts the /boot/grub/grub.cfg together11:24
hitsujiTMOPriestly: you don't need to add windows to the grub menu for uefi. just use the efi boot manager11:25
hitsujiTMOPriesty: or the other way around. even11:25
aslanglitsj16, I will bundle the grub folder and give you now11:25
PriestyI can add windows to grub not a problem but windows tends to put it's boot manager as the default one when it updates certain files so it is important that there is a linux enrty in the windows boot menu11:29
Priestybut no one knows how to do this with gpt harddrive11:29
hitsujiTMOPriesty: your uefi/bios has its own boot manager. Use that. adding another os to BCD messes up the fast boot anytime you want to boot to another OS.11:30
PriestyI have been using that menu no problems but we produce a java program that runs on linux for older users that need an easy to use interface so they can choose between linux or windows11:32
Priestyit is not always f9 to boot a different os11:33
picapicahi. I am running some cpu intensive processes and for some reason the processes are running much slower than they ought to be.11:35
Priestyso I know it is possible to add linux to the windows boot menu and have it booting with fast boot because i have already done it but when i tried to do it again it did not work so i obviously did something the first time that i may not been aware of11:35
picapicaI believe the processes that are running are also very disk intensive so that might be a possible issue as well.11:35
picapicais there are diagnostic tool in the standard Ubuntu Quantal distro that will let me check to see what may be the problem?11:35
aslanglitsj16, I'm uploading my grubd to you, please have a check11:35
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picapicaI see deleting the gvfs-metadata as a possible fix but that appears to have to do with Nautilus.11:36
glitsj16aslan: what do you mean 'uploading to me'? :) a simple pastebin will do11:36
aslanglitsj16,  I have all 00_header and other files11:37
glitsj16aslan: that's fine11:37
ActionParsnippicapica: you could set a lower nice value to give the process more priority11:39
picapicaActionParsnip: I have many cores. this shouldn't matter.11:39
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picapicaand nothing running at the same time.11:39
aslanglitsj16, This is my 00_header "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404838/"11:39
glitsj16aslan: ok, i'll get the pastes .. in the meantime, let me ask if you edited some files in /etc/grub.d? If not, no need to send those11:42
glitsj16aslan: and don't forget /etc/default/grub11:42
Paulus68_1Is there a good free alternative for ExQuilla in thunderbird to link the exchange with thunderbird11:43
picapicaanother question, how can I make apt-get look in some directory for packages I want to install?11:45
picapicasay I want to install some package and it has dependencies xyz. how do I tell apt-get to look for xyz in some directorY?11:46
picapicacan I just put everything in /var/cache/apt/archive and it will look for it there?11:46
ActionParsnippicapica: use dpkg to install deb files you have stored11:46
ActionParsnippicapica: the copy may work11:46
picapicaok, thanks.11:46
glitsj16aslan: 00_header seems ok to me, let's take another one11:47
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aslanglitsj16, The /etc/default/grub is in this link "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404851/"11:47
shambatwhat could be the reason for my /etc/hostname and the hostname command showing different values for hostname? :P11:49
glitsj16aslan: that doesn't look like /etc/default/grub .. would you please doublecheck?11:50
xet7Does "USN-2014-1: OpenSSH vulnerability" affect only Ubuntu 13.10 ? Not 12.04 LTS ?11:50
aslanglitsj16, sorry, this is the grub "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404881/"11:51
Priestyhow can i add linux to windows 8 boot menu using bcdedit and gpt harddrives???11:51
glitsj16aslan: no problem, we'll get there11:51
glitsj16aslan: looks fine, you have a 10sec window to hit a key and show the menu at boot11:53
PaRaD0xxRhi, I need help sharing my printer on 12.04 LTS with other pcs on my network, a mix of xp and win711:53
OerHeksxet7, 13.10 only >> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2014-1/11:53
glitsj16aslan: now would be a good moment to pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg11:54
PaRaD0xxRI checked the printer settings, and shared is checked, but also says "not published".11:54
xet7OerHeks: ok thanks! :)11:54
aslanglitsj16,  Here my grub.cfg is "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404851/"11:55
PaRaD0xxRo, and I my issue from the other day with my second hard drive not always being seen by ubutu, seems to have been a loose cable after all, I re-tightened it, and it's stayed fixed 3 reboots in a row11:57
PaRaD0xxRodd that xp never had issues w/it being loose11:57
brandycan someone help me with c++?11:58
OerHeksaslan,  do not use "" as it makes your url unclickable11:58
PaRaD0xxRnow I need to set up print sharing with the rest of my lan11:58
aslanOerHeks, Thank you for your information, I will not use next time :)11:59
dolWalex, just for your info, I have fixed my issue with the info here: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2013-November/068579.html11:59
moppyPaRaD0xxR, Odd that you consider the OS to responsible for a hardware issue. Probably knocked the computer or something...11:59
glitsj16aslan: now i understand your problem better, that is very incomplete .. please paste output of ls -l /etc/grub.d12:00
DJonesPaRaD0xxR: I'm glad you solved that disk issue, it was really wierd how it was showing up in Windows, but not Ubuntu12:00
PaRaD0xxRheh..all I'm saying, 2nd hard drive only sporadically showed up the way it was booting into Ubuntu, but xp saw it everytime..just the facts ;)12:00
PaRaD0xxRyeah, bizarre12:00
PaRaD0xxRcould be coindence, but 3 reboots now, and it's still there fine ;)12:00
PaRaD0xxRcable was somewhat loose, had just put a new right angle cable on it12:01
moppyPaRaD0xxR, If it's a loose cable, it's OS-independent. Either the firmware sees the drive and reports it to the OS, or it doesn't.12:01
PaRaD0xxRahh12:01
PaRaD0xxRnow I can't figure out how to share my printer on here12:01
PaRaD0xxRI assume that's an easier fix ;)12:01
Walexbrandy: there is a specific channel for C/C++ help12:02
aslanglitsj16, here is the list of grub.d http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404932/12:02
philinuxPaRaD0xxR: you need to set the printer to be shared and make is discoverable to other machines12:03
st_prgHi guys, I'm having a bit of an issue with my menu. Nothing is visible except files.12:03
PaRaD0xxRI think it is shared12:03
PaRaD0xxRthe box is checked12:03
PaRaD0xxRenabled is checked, shared is checked..12:03
philinuxPaRaD0xxR: please dont use the enter key just type all you need to say in one go12:03
philinuxPaRaD0xxR: is this on ubuntu?12:04
PaRaD0xxRok sorry ;) yes, 12.04.12:04
st_prgThis is what I'm seeing... http://s17.postimg.org/x37fxo4gf/Screenshot_from_2013_11_12_20_00_46.png12:04
glitsj16aslan: looks ok .. did you try to regenerate /boot/grub/grub.cfg by running 'sudo update-grub' yet? Please try that and resend /boot/grub/grub.cfg pls12:04
philinuxPaRaD0xxR: in printer properties you need to click the server tab and tick enable to be discovered12:04
PaRaD0xxRon the policies page, enabled.accepting jobs, and shared all checked, but says "not published - see server settings"12:05
philinuxPaRaD0xxR: ^^ server settings ;)12:05
PaRaD0xxRhm....I dont' see a server settings tab?12:05
PaRaD0xxRo...in the menu bar?12:06
PaRaD0xxRI was looking in the window ;)12:06
philinuxPaRaD0xxR: yeah !! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu12:07
PaRaD0xxR:)12:07
PaRaD0xxRthanks,  I see it now12:07
philinuxPaRaD0xxR: I always found it odd that shared was not enough12:07
PaRaD0xxRyeah, that option should in the window with the other stuff, I will try it now and let you know12:08
aslanglitsj16, while doing the update Im getting the error as "cat: /boot/grub/video.lst: No such file or directory12:09
aslan"12:09
philinuxPaRaD0xxR: if you need to print to it from windows all you need to do is install Samba on the ubuntu print server and reboot. Windows will then find it as a network printer12:09
philinuxPaRaD0xxR: no other settings needed. I did this last week.12:09
glitsj16aslan: looks like a reinstall of your grub2 packages are needed, you're missing critical files .. what do you use to install software on your machine ? I ask because our systems will differ , i can't simply give you a command just yet .. but this explains your trouble12:13
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PaRaD0xxRhmmm...samba?12:15
PaRaD0xxRI can see other windows machines fine, does that mean samba is already setup?   Or is this something also needed for printing?12:15
aslanglitsj16, I GRUB has been updated successfully by creating the file video.lst in /boot/grub/video.lst and the new grub is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404984/12:17
philinuxPaRaD0xxR:  for printing from windows to an ubuntu print server. Also use for file access. Basically for printing you just install samba package on the ubuntu machine that has the printer connected to it12:17
PaRaD0xxRphilinux:  that's what I'm asking...how can I tell if its already installed?12:19
glitsj16aslan: how exactly did you create video.lst? there's still no boot items in there12:19
philinuxPaRaD0xxR: apt-cache policy samba12:20
PaRaD0xxRI can see windows pcs files already, just can't print from them12:20
aslanglitsj16, This is the command to create that "echo vbe | tee /boot/grub/video.lst"12:20
philinuxPaRaD0xxR: it only needs installing on the ubuntu print server to12:20
PaRaD0xxRsays "samba : installed: (none)"12:21
PaRaD0xxRcandidate...version table.  I'm assuming this means it isn't installed?12:22
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philinuxPaRaD0xxR: your eyes do not deceive you12:22
glitsj16aslan: fine, but your 10_linux section is not showing any bootable menu items .. strange12:22
PaRaD0xxRsudo apt-get install samba then?12:22
philinuxPaRaD0xxR: indeed12:23
PaRaD0xxRI have to reboot?12:23
philinuxPaRaD0xxR: ah you'll need to reboot the print server for samba to be running.12:23
PaRaD0xxRok, brb12:23
shambatwhich is authoritative? /etc/hostname or the hostname command? my system is showing different things for these two.12:24
glitsj16aslan: in http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404851/ you at least at the 'MAC Gio V1.0' item, now that is gone too12:24
glitsj16aslan: is this a fresh install? and of which ubuntu?12:26
aslanglebihan, its ubuntu 11.012:26
aslanand its not a fress install,my friend have done someting in this12:26
aslanI'm not able to fix this12:26
glitsj16aslan: nice friend lol12:26
aslanglitsj16,  :)12:27
glitsj16aslan: maybe that's why you're looking to password protect your grub hehe .. 11.0 is no longer supported btw, you are aware of that yes?12:28
aslanglitsj16, ya I knew that12:29
aslanglitsj16, is there any other possibility to fix this12:29
glitsj16aslan: i can't see anything directly, but i'll look around in the forums etc. ok12:30
aslanglitsj16, Thank you for your support12:31
glitsj16aslan: you will need all the grub related packages and reinstall them, not sure where we can track those down for 11.012:31
glitsj16aslan: no problem, didn't really solve anything yet :) .. do you have a live cd of 11.0 by any chance?12:32
philinuxshambat: both same here12:33
PaRaD0xxhmmm12:34
PaRaD0xxdon't know if I missed anything there12:34
st_prgHi guys, I'm still having an issue with my menu. Only category that is showing is Files and Folders, although I also have applications selected.12:35
shambatphilinux: if you have the chance, could you try to change it with the hostname command? sudo hostname yourhostname.local12:35
shambatand then check12:35
PaRaD0xxI can see the computer thats sharing the printer now in the add printer dialogs...but not a printer under it12:35
st_prghttp://s17.postimg.org/x37fxo4gf/Screenshot_from_2013_11_12_20_00_46.png12:35
philinuxshambat: have you seen the man page for hostname12:35
meet_praveencan i split the hard disk in several partition in ubuntu like in  windows12:36
PaRaD0xx"you need to specify a valid network printer name"12:36
philinuxPaRaD0xx: now on the windows machine you need to search for network printers from the printer dialog gui12:36
aslanglitsj16, ya I do have that12:37
philinuxmeet_praveen: yep12:37
meet_praveenphilinux: how?12:37
PaRaD0xxyeah, I browsed...and I see all my windows machines...and I see the name this ubuntu box gave to the printer...and the lil blue pc icon...but I can't click on it to see the printer icon12:37
shambatphilinux: I just did and it seems to have cleared things up :)12:37
DJonesmeet_praveen: Yes you can, but you can't do it with a mounted disk, if the disk you want to partition has your operating system on, you'll need to use a LiveDVD/USB so that the hard drive isn't mounted when you come to partition it, you can use gparted to repartition12:38
PaRaD0xxif I click on it, I get "you need to specify a valid network printer name"12:38
DJones!partitioning | meet_praveen12:38
ubottumeet_praveen: For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap12:38
philinuxPaRaD0xx: i'm not in win 7 at the moment. IIRc there's a button add network printer12:38
glitsj16aslan: ok, let's boot that and try to get back in here, we'll give a shot at moving the needed packages from that iso onto your natty12:38
PaRaD0xxthis is actually xp atm12:39
philinuxPaRaD0xx: you may need to reboot the win machine too12:39
luzxwhat?12:40
aslanglitsj16, you want me to boot and live cd for grub update12:40
meet_praveenphilinux: in system it shows single disk12:40
glitsj16aslan: yes, we need a way to get at those grub related .deb files, otherwise your system will stay broken12:41
philinuxmeet_praveen: DJones gave you the answer12:41
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PaRaD0xxk, I'm rebooting the xp box12:41
PaRaD0xxI can see the pc icon, has a plus...but can't click on it to see the printer12:42
PaRaD0xxstill rebooting12:42
philinuxPaRaD0xx: no idea how to with xp.12:42
goldstari am using saucy and have noticed that everytime I start my PC it takes about 5-10 minutes for my interface card to connect to the network. Does anyone know how I can diagnose this ?12:42
PaRaD0xxmaybe reboot will fix ;)12:42
philinuxPaRaD0xx: the answer will be in the printers gui on xp and "out there" somewhere12:43
PaRaD0xxout there?12:43
philinuxPaRaD0xx: net search on www12:43
glitsj16aslan: are you ok with that? and that will give you the opportunity to backup all what's on your presently unbootable system from that live cd as well12:43
meet_praveenphilinux: DJones : i partitioned in two parts one for root installation and other with mount point boot ..so other partition is showing in system's boot folder12:44
st_prgHello. I am having issues seeing menu items, I can only see files and folders. No applications.12:44
aslanglitsj16, ya glitch Could you plz give me the steps to do that... because I got few things to take the backup right now12:44
philinuxPaRaD0xx: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/print_connect_net_printerw.mspx?mfr=true12:45
philinuxst_prg: which ubuntu?12:46
glitsj16aslan: sure, let's focus on the grub issue first ok, once you've booted from your natty cd we'll see what we can solve and take it from there12:46
meet_praveen DJones : i partitioned in two parts one for root installation and other with mount point boot ..so other partition is showing in system's boot folder....... now what should i do?12:46
PaRaD0xxphilinux: thanks, I will keep trying12:47
st_prgphilinux: 13.10 64 bit. Upgraded from 13.04 about a week ago, no issues up until today.12:47
PaRaD0xxsomething is blocking it, firewall perhaps? hmm12:47
jnhghyis there an open source program that will livestream my screen (while working on the computer)? I'd like to see on my screen exactly what another user is doing in livetime is there anything like this?12:47
infusedRDP12:48
GuybrushThreepwoQuestion... If I have a jar file, how can I include a shortcut to execute that jar file without using the terminal?12:48
glitsj16aslan: i realize that coming here with a grub issue and getting the advice to update 11.04 isn't what you'd expect, but personally it's something i'd consider doing, but that's up to you ofcourse12:48
aslanglitsj16, How can I find you back in this, do you have any social link to connect you12:49
infusedguybrushthreepwo like minecraft.jar?12:49
glitsj16aslan: i'llbe here for the next few hours12:49
glitsj16aslan: PM me if you're back, no problem12:50
GuybrushThreepwoinfused, multibit-exe.jar12:50
DJonesmeet_praveen: What was the 2nd partition supposed to be for12:50
philinuxst_prg: so you got desktop but no unity launcher on left or what?12:50
st_prgphilinux: http://s17.postimg.org/x37fxo4gf/Screenshot_from_2013_11_12_20_00_46.png12:51
aslanglitsj16, Sure I will PM you12:51
philinuxPaRaD0xx: it'll be something on the xp machine maybe.12:51
meet_praveenDJones: 2nd partition for safe space means  data in 2nd partition should not affected by re-installing of OS12:51
glitsj16aslan: ok .. i promise i won't fly off :)12:52
GuybrushThreepwoinfused: I would imaging the same method would work as the method used to do it with minecraft.jar12:52
GuybrushThreepwoimagine*12:52
GuybrushThreepwoI just don't want to type it out every time12:52
philinuxst_prg: I would reset unity and compiz back to default settings. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/12:52
infusedguybrushthreepwo I think so too12:52
st_prgphilinux: Ok12:53
DJonesmeet_praveen: Right, I'm not sure how you'll fix this, because you gave the 2nd partition the mountpoint 'boot' when you installed, that partition was set as /boot which is a specific folder used on linux systems and part of the system will have been installed into that12:54
aslanglitsj16, I think all this sort of issue can be solved only  by geeks, I need you let me restart and come back12:54
ZorkyWhere is the nautilus folder icon located? i want to change the icon on a shortcut12:54
DJonesmeet_praveen: I'm not sure if /boot can be moved to another location easily, give me a minute to have a look for something12:54
glitsj16aslan: ok, i've called worde things than geek ;)12:54
glitsj16*worse12:55
GuybrushThreepwodoes anyone know how to do it? or if theres like a simply batch file i can make or something to put on the bar?12:55
st_prgphilinux: Nope, still only the one category12:55
meet_praveenDJones: so , i have to re-install os?12:56
DJonesmeet_praveen: Its should be possible to move whats currently in /boot but I can't find instructions on how to do it easily, if you wait around the channel, somebody else may be able to help12:57
philinuxst_prg: what happens when you click the A applications icon. Screenshot shows files highlighted12:57
philinuxst_prg: secnond from left on bottom of Dash12:58
DJonesmeet_praveen: If you do reinstall, when you set the mount point for the 2nd partition, maybe use something like 'data' as the mount point which would force the install to create its /boot within the 1st partition automatically12:58
st_prgphilinux: http://s13.postimg.org/ekclaln9z/Screenshot_from_2013_11_12_20_58_21.png12:59
bgardnerGuybrushThreepwo: Yes, you can use a script and/or a *.desktop file.12:59
meet_praveenDJones: i just installed the os . so, no big issue with re-installation but could u tell me that what steps should i follow now12:59
PaRaD0xxphilinux:  booted into a win7 laptop, it also can see the ubuntu machine, but can't see its files12:59
GuybrushThreepwobgardner:  I don't know how to do that, can you help?12:59
infusedguybrushthreepwo https://wiki.python.org/jython/JythonFaq/DistributingJythonScripts#Add_modules_and_paths_to_the_jar_file12:59
philinuxst_prg: ok hang on12:59
PaRaD0xxand I assume printers either...do I have to enable sharing some other way on the ubuntu system?12:59
DJonesmeet_praveen: If you do that, just reinstall the same as previously, install ubuntu onto the 1st partition, and set the 2nd partition to mount as 'Data' or some other name13:00
philinuxPaRaD0xx: well you need to share a folder for it to be seen13:00
PaRaD0xxo13:00
philinuxsame as a printer needs to be shared13:00
GuybrushThreepwoI found something on making bash file to do it13:00
GuybrushThreepwowhat's the extension on that?13:00
PaRaD0xxyeah shared is checked...but nothing seems to be able to actually see it13:00
GuybrushThreepwo.bash?13:00
PaRaD0xx:(13:00
meet_praveenDJones: ok thanks :) . i m trying13:00
PaRaD0xxwhat should be in the location box?13:01
GuybrushThreepwo"addung module and path to jar file" is confusing13:01
GuybrushThreepwoi just want to drag something to the bar on the left and click it to run13:01
GuybrushThreepwoadding*13:01
bgardnerGuybrushThreepwo, infused: I think Mr. Threepwood wants to just launch a jar without a terminal, not repackage it.  Is that correct, GuyBrush?13:01
GuybrushThreepwoYeah13:02
bgardnerGuybrushThreepwo: Okay, one moment while I rob one of my own java launcher configs.13:02
GuybrushThreepwohttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-create-a-desktop-shortcut-to-a-jar-file-694885/13:02
GuybrushThreepwoI found this13:02
GuybrushThreepwoI just don't know about creating bash files, what extension to use, etc13:03
Number5Hello guys, I have ubuntu 12.04 installed. But I'd like to change the theme, because I simply just don't like the Ubuntu colors. Instead of tweaking, I rather want some ready made themes I can use. Which steps do I have to take?13:03
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: the extension on the bash file doesnt matter13:03
st_prgGuybrushThreepwo: Have a look at "shebang"13:03
philinuxst_prg: cd ~/.local/share/ then rm -rf zeitgeist13:03
GuybrushThreepwoeh?13:04
st_prgphilinux: Do I need to restart unity after that?13:04
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philinuxst_prg: setsid unity13:04
GuybrushThreepwoSo you say "extension doesn't matter"13:04
GuybrushThreepwoif that's the case13:04
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: as long as the file is executable and the 1st line is:   #!/bin/bash   you can have a .png extension on the file and it makes no difference at all, this isnt windows13:05
GuybrushThreepwoi see13:05
st_prgphilinux: Still the same issue :/13:05
bgardnerGuybrushThreepwo: Just create the bash file as indicated in your link, don't worry about the extension.  Name it my_script or whatever.13:05
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: Linux is smart and does not rely on the file extension13:05
kryptoubuntu12.04 on which i can able to resolve ips,and most applications are working including package manager but browser is not working...any idea?13:05
GuybrushThreepwook ty13:05
philinuxPaRaD0xx: there's this documentation https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html13:05
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: you can rename a .jpg to .bmp  and the OS will still see a jpg file13:06
Zorkyhow would i write the line in a .sh script . that askes the user for a yes no question on a reboot command?13:06
philinuxst_prg: top right Gear > system settings > privacy >files and application> clear usage data13:07
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6405216/13:07
ActionParsnipZorky: Zorky a bash script, you mean?13:08
PaRaD0xxhmmm13:08
ZorkyActionParsnip:  yes. i want to ask the user for confirmation before proceeding with the script13:08
ActionParsnipZorky: read variablename; echo $variablename13:08
GuybrushThreepwoOk, so I have a bash file with these 3 lines: #!/bin/bash cd /home/karl/MultiBit-0.5.14  java -jar multibit48.png13:08
GuybrushThreepwoNow what?13:08
st_prgphilinux: Now I don't get files and folders.13:08
ActionParsnipZorky: a '.sh file' doesn't tell us much, file extensions are meaningless in Linux13:08
GuybrushThreepwoI click to open it and it's opened with text editor13:08
ZorkyActionParsnip:  ohh yeah my mistake. a #!/bin/bash13:09
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: what sort of file does the 'file' command say it is?13:09
ActionParsnipZorky: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_08_02.html13:09
GuybrushThreepworight click properties says13:09
GuybrushThreepwoshell script (application/x-shellscript)13:09
ActionParsnipZorky: i searched in google for 'user input bash'13:09
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: is the file executable?13:09
GuybrushThreepwoI haven't done anything other than created the file and saved.13:10
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: what is the name of the file and where is it saved?13:10
GuybrushThreepwo"multibit" in home13:10
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: chmod +x ~/multibit13:10
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: will mark it executable13:10
infusedzorky this was kind like what you are doing http://stackoverflow.com/questions/226703/how-do-i-prompt-for-input-in-a-linux-shell-script13:11
philinuxst_prg: log out then back in13:11
GuybrushThreepwoOne last question13:11
GuybrushThreepwois there any way to get rid of this 4 workplaces thing?13:12
GuybrushThreepwoi don't like it13:12
st_prgphilinux: Already tried a full restart13:12
Zorkyinfused:  that is exactly what im looking for. an example that is allready sat up. so i can copy it and change to my needs13:12
GuybrushThreepwoor disable it13:12
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: set your workspaces to 1x1 and it will go, what shell / desktop do you use?13:12
infusedzorky hope it helps shouldnt be to hard to tweek13:12
GuybrushThreepwoubuntu 12.04 LTS13:13
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: with Unity shell?13:13
GuybrushThreepwoi assume so13:13
philinuxst_prg: try the guest user13:14
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: does it look like this http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1219/screenshot100113154720.png13:14
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38789/how-do-i-add-and-remove-the-workspace-switcher-launcher-from-the-unity-launcher13:15
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197045013:15
meet_praveenDJones: now i didn't selected any mount point for 2nd partition13:16
GuybrushThreepwoOkay, I'll follow the ubuntu 12.04 instructions, thanks13:16
Zorkyinfused:  now i get confused. i want that to ask the user if he wants to reboot and if answered yes . it should reboot the pc13:17
DJonesmeet_praveen: ok, thats something you do after the install is complete anyway13:17
GuybrushThreepwoI don't like it, it makes me move things to other places or too far off grid on accident13:17
st_prgphilinux: Yes, Guest has applications.13:17
meet_praveenDJones: what will be steps after installation13:18
philinuxst_prg: ok so some settings messed up with main user.13:18
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DJonesmeet_praveen: You'd neet to create a folder in /media or /mnt called with a name you want to use (eg Data), then you would edit your fstab file to add that folder as a mount point, next time you rebooted, you'd have access to the storage partition13:19
philinuxst_prg: rm ~/.cache/software-center -R the use the dconf thing to reset unity again13:20
GuybrushThreepwoThe folder /usr/share/unity-2d/shell/launcher/ doesn't exist when I look for it using text editor13:20
meet_praveenDJones: ok :)13:20
GuybrushThreepwothe shell folder seems to have 3 other folders: panel, shell, and spread13:20
GuybrushThreepwonvm13:20
GuybrushThreepwoi'm dumb13:21
DJonesmeet_praveen: When you get to that point, just come back into the channel, I'm sure plenty of people will be able to talk you through that13:21
st_prgphilinux: Still no luck :/13:21
infusedZorky I found another site http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/shutdown_and_reboot/13:23
ActionParsnipGuybrushThreepwo: just make a backup of anything you change then you can easily roll back13:24
Zorkyi got a command to work. where it asks. but it asks for a number instead of y or n13:24
philinuxst_prg: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-scope-home then logout then in13:24
infusedZorky half way there:D13:24
GuybrushThreepwoOkay, so13:25
GuybrushThreepwoI made the bash file13:25
GuybrushThreepwoput it on my desktop anyway13:25
GuybrushThreepwois there a way to have it on my dash?13:26
brontosaurusrexGuybrushThreepwo, not sure about unity, but usually making a .dekstop file in the appropriate location does the trick13:26
GuybrushThreepwoeh13:27
st_prgphilinux: Ok, will be right back.13:27
infusedguybrushthreepwo http://askubuntu.com/questions/67753/how-do-i-add-an-application-to-the-dash13:27
GuybrushThreepwoill just settle for a desktop icon for now i guess13:27
GuybrushThreepwoill look into that thanks13:27
ucz15no elo13:28
fishduckwhen is ubuntu 14 coming out?13:30
DJonesfishduck: April and October13:30
DJones!14.04 | fishduck13:30
ubottufishduck: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info.13:30
fishduckalso, will it really be an awesome release as said, or are there just some minor updates?13:30
cfhowlettfishduck, yes.  no.  crystal ball says answer unclear.13:30
st_prgpilinux: That worked - thanks!13:31
DJonesfishduck: It will be LTS though, so I guess that counts towards the awesome release :)13:31
Roryfishduck: In general LTS releases have focussed more on stability and bugfixes than headline features13:31
philinuxst_prg: must have been a bug during an update that removed the unity-scope-home package13:32
mmichalikexit13:32
mmichalikquit13:32
mmichalik:q13:32
DJonesmmichalik: its /quit13:33
LjLtry harder13:33
philinuxst_prg: also fire up software center it will need to have it's index rebuilt after we deleted it13:33
st_prgphilinux: I guess so. Anyway, thank you for your support. I appreciate it very much.13:33
DJonesmmichalik: or /part13:33
st_prgphilinux: Ok, sure thing.13:33
mmichalikya, should read docs first :) ty13:33
philinuxst_prg: funny thing is I've not had any trouble with my two machines at all lol.13:34
st_prgphilinux: That's how it should be :P But alas it is not.13:34
Zorkyinfused:  it aint working :/13:37
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Togusaquestion: is it normal that the network-manager package is installed but the /etc/init.d/NetworkManager script is missing? has it been moved? it's a command line ubuntu 13.10 install with a de on top of it13:43
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PaRaD0xxok, making progress with the printing situation, sudo disable ufw makes it so I can now see the printer from windows...but still can't print13:44
PaRaD0xxprinter name is invalid13:44
PaRaD0xxhmm13:46
Togusahey PaRaD0xx13:47
Togusaare you using 13.10? can you please check if you have /etc/init.d/NetworkManager? my installation doesn't have it, and i was wondering if it was normal13:47
PaRaD0xx12.0413:47
Togusauhm i see13:47
Togusathanks anyway =)13:48
PaRaD0xxI'm here for help, not to help :)  I mean, I know virtually nothing, so probably couldn't13:48
PaRaD0xx;)13:48
PaRaD0xxtrying to get print sharing enabled with winblows13:48
Togusanever tried to print stuff on linux13:49
PaRaD0xxmy win boxes can see the ubuntu printer, but can't select it13:49
PaRaD0xxkeep getting can't connect/invalid printer name13:49
Togusais the printer shared from ubuntu?13:49
PaRaD0xxyes13:49
Togusai know there's something inside /etc/samba/smb.conf13:49
Togusabut i never actually used it13:50
DJonesTogusa: This probably doesn't help, just checked my 12.04 server and that doesn't have /etc/init.d/NetworkManager13:50
PaRaD0xxwell, as I said, diabling the ufw helped...13:50
TogusaDJones: thanks!13:50
PaRaD0xxnow windows machines can see the printer machine, and the printer itself...but get can't connect now13:50
PaRaD0xxso, getting closer, but still no dice13:50
Togusa'cause i tried to install kde-full on it but the network applet keeps complainig about the network manager not running13:51
PaRaD0xxyeah, tried to edit the samba.conf...but not sure what to edit13:51
Togusait's strange 'cause i remember i could start it manually in the past13:51
PaRaD0xxalso, hate having ufw off13:51
Togusaif i had network-manager installed13:51
Gregor_Hello, I want to buy a Radeon HD 7850, will it be okay with any linux distro? Whats are better Nvidia OSS or ATI OSS driver?     Propitary Nvidia/OSS driver?13:51
Togusacan't connect?13:52
Togusaare you sure the ports are open?13:52
RoryGregor_: I use a very similar card, and it works fine with Ubuntu, Mint, Arch and every other distro I've tried. The open-source Radeon driver is very good nowadays, and has improved recently in Linux kernel 3.12. This means even greater performance will be in the next version of Ubuntu13:53
PaRaD0xxTogusa no idea how to do that13:53
Togusathe only issue i have (unless Rory knows if they added support yet) with the opensource driver is that the GPU runs at its max frequency13:54
Togusaand i can't see the temps13:54
hitsujiTMORory: some of the radeon improvements are pushed back to 3.1313:54
TogusaPaRaD0xx: iptables --list?13:54
RoryhitsujiTMO: I've noticed fantastic real-world improvements from installing the 3.12-saucy mainline kernel13:54
Gregor_Rory: It will also be good with 13.10? I read recommends about Nvidia, but do you think radeon got more support than nvidia now?13:54
ezra-sRory, define "fantastic improvements"13:55
Roryezra-s: League of Legends in Wine goes above 30fps now consistantly; in fact usually above 60, so maybe an 80% performance improvement there. No wine or LoL update, and it goes back to slower if I use the old kernel13:55
ezra-sRory, any specific configuration option in kernel config for that?13:56
RoryGregor_: That's a very difficult question to answer. All I can tell you is my AMD Radeon 6970 works very well for my light gaming usage, as I just mentioned to ezra-s above13:56
Gregor_I got a older nvida gt4xx,   will working with a new Radeon (OSS drivers) be better than the old with propitary13:56
PaRaD0xxcould that be my issue?  I need to open the printer port?13:57
Roryezra-s: I'm not sure, I just installed the packaged mainline kernel from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-saucy/13:57
Togusasince there're so many people now, does anyboy know how to fix the "network manager not running" error i have on my DE? network-manager is installed but i can't start the service because /etc/init.d/NetworkManager is missing13:57
ezra-sRory, I'm curious, just that, I read somewhere else that 3.12 would bring much better performance under certain conditions but I didn't read where specifically13:58
lucidodoes shotwell 0.13 imprt videos too?13:58
cfhowlettlucido, no.13:58
hitsujiTMOTogusa: is the network-manager service running?13:58
lucidocfhowlett, which version can?13:58
RoryTogusa: Can you try "sudo service network-manager start"13:58
cfhowlettlucido, version?  shotwell is for still photos not for video.13:58
Togusalet me try13:59
hitsujiTMOTogusa: network manager is an upstart service btw, defined in /etc/init/network-manager.conf14:00
cfhowlettlucido, by any chance, did you mean "openshot" for videos?14:00
bjensen82I have made a nginx.conf file inside /etc/init with how to start restart etc nginx. However when I try to do initctl list |grep nginx I get the error "Unknown job: nginx" can somone pleasepoint me in right direction?14:01
ezra-sTogusa, /etc/init.d/network-manager linux is case-sensitive14:01
lucidocfhowlett, no, according to this it can, I just don't know from which version? http://www.yorba.org/shotwell/help/14:01
TogusaRory, hitsujiTMO: yeah the service is running! weird14:02
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ezra-snetwork-manager gets disabled in cases where you tweak /etc/network/interfaces14:02
kognitiva_Gief halp plxplx14:02
bjensen82sorry I mean the job isnt on the list, when I try to do start I get the above error: unknown job14:02
Togusai thought the scripts were all inside there and since bash was not autocompleting service net* i thought the script was missing14:02
kognitiva_who's in charge here?14:02
Togusathanks for the help guys14:02
kognitiva_I have a simple question on how to get ubuntu onto  a stick14:02
kognitiva_I have tried googling, just need someone to talk to14:03
Rory!usb | kognitiva_14:03
ubottukognitiva_: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent14:03
kognitiva_thats kinda sad14:03
supziezkognitiva_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick14:03
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Guest74202hello, my name is MJ14:04
cfhowlettlucido, news to me.  I've only used shotwell for pics.  No video import on version 12.  No idea about higher version numbers.14:04
ezra-sTogusa, if you hit tab several times it will show all options that start with net, when there is more than one choice, first tab does not auto-complete14:04
cfhowlettGuest74202, do you have an ubuntu question14:04
lucidoI see14:04
Togusaezra-s: i know but it doesn't matter how many times i press it14:04
Togusathere's no network-manager14:04
ezra-ss/several times/twice14:05
kognitiva_which one gives me the nice menu with "try ubuntu" "install ubuntu" etc?14:05
kognitiva_thanks for links :)14:05
Togusait only completes to "networking"14:05
cfhowlettlucido, you're right, the site clearly states video14:05
hitsujiTMOezra-s: Togusa bash_completion is not working for me either. must be a bug14:05
ezra-sTogusa, are you using ubuntu-desktop?14:05
Togusano it's a command line install14:05
Togusafrom the netinst ISO14:05
lucidoI'm still on 12.04 I think14:05
cfhowlettkognitiva_, make a usb stick.  boot your computer with that stick.  "try" and "install" will be offered as options.14:05
Guest74202what do you do in Ubuntu?14:06
Togusathe autocompletion is working but not everything it seems14:06
ezra-sTogusa, then you need to install needed package: network-manager: /etc/init.d/network-manager14:07
Rory!ubuntu | Guest7420214:07
ubottuGuest74202: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com14:07
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kognitiva_cfhowlett, thanks  :)14:07
hitsujiTMOTogusa, ezra-s just checked again, bash_completion is only working for system-v services, not upstart14:07
TogusahitsujiTMO: that explains it then! thanks! :)14:08
ezra-shitsujiTMO, bash_completion works for files and directory names as well as symlinks14:08
ezra-sforgive me If I'm missing something :P14:08
Guest74202what's the most interesting thing in Ubuntu?14:09
guuesthelp me please! I'm using Ubuntu desktop with LXDE. I upgraded it from 13.04 to 13.10. After update notify-send is broken. Desktop notifications aren't so beautiful than it was 13.04. Instead them, there are simple blue rectangles with the text14:11
tnmindHello all, could anyone help me with an issue I am having with boot/efi failing to mount after upgrade to 13.10?14:12
tnmindHere is my boot summary file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6405180/14:12
sandGorgondoes anyone know where I can download the "gnome-shell integration" plugin for firefox. I am using Firefox Aurora (alpha) and I'm unable to use extensions.gnome.org because of this missing extension14:15
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sergio__Hello14:17
sergio__May I ask you a question?14:17
daftykinsyes14:17
sergio__It's about the kernel14:17
sergio__Im trying to compile it14:18
sergio__But it's been like 3+ hours, and i think that its on an endless loop14:18
sergio__I think that terminal shows the same files on and on14:18
sergio__In fact, my free space is now 8 GB lower than it was before14:19
sergio__Which sounds rather excesive for a kernel14:19
joshsclam tk but keep getting that gui and antivirus engine are out dated, how do i update them?14:20
glitsj16sandGorgon: i believe doing a 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions' provides that, you'll need to restart firefox ofcourse14:21
ObrienDavejoshs, sudo freshclam14:21
joshsi tried sudo freshclam but it didnt work14:21
misterliOkay.. ubuntu is not useable for me..  sensors shows: temp on PCI Adapter (Radeon-pci-0100) 118.0° and the pc get slower and slower and crash after that with the default drivers. ATI drivers does not work... :-/ Damn. I really starte dto love it14:21
ObrienDavejoshs, might have to go to the website http://clamtk.sourceforge.net/14:23
joshsthis is what it does14:23
joshsERROR: /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log is locked by another process14:23
joshsERROR: Problem with internal logger (UpdateLogFile = /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log).14:23
sandGorgonglitsj16, thanks!14:23
CherryHillTonyI have 12.04, and I did have Skype, but I can't bring it up anymore!14:24
glitsj16sandGorgon: you're welcome, what should we be without extensions heh14:24
ObrienDavejoshs, don't know about that problem14:24
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joshsthe website does no good either14:25
philinuxjoshs: are you chacking a win partition from ubuntu?14:25
joshshonestly, i am new to this and have no idea14:26
cfhowlettCherryHillTony, start skype from a terminal.  note any error messages14:26
philinuxjoshs: I dont have any av on ubuntu14:26
joshsi do run some stuff on wine14:27
philinuxjoshs: then it wont affect ubuntu14:27
joshsi would still like to know how to update clamtk14:28
philinuxjoshs: you only need av to check say a win partition on a dual boot etc14:28
KaoticEvilanyone know anything about dansguardian?14:28
KaoticEvilspecifically, i want to set my main server box (also a torrent seedbox) up as a filter/proxy for my kids devices... but not filter my devices, or the server's access itself14:28
Lexzuzhello all14:29
cfhowlettLexzuz, greetings14:29
Lexzuzhaha can anyone guess what dist im on? xD14:29
cfhowlettLexzuz, no.  do you have an ubuntu question?14:29
joshsit was all good until this morning. caught a virus here and there but took care of it easily. now its out of date and i can't update it14:30
Lexzuzyeah haha is it true that anonymous-OS is full of viruses?14:30
cfhowlett!ot|Lexzuz,14:30
ubottuLexzuz,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:30
Lexzuzanonymous-OS is made on ubuntu14:31
Lexzuz10.1114:31
cfhowlettLexzuz, made on but it is NOT ubuntu and not supported here.14:31
Lexzuzsi this is a support channel only?14:32
cfhowlettLexzuz, yes14:32
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bjensen82I have setup nginx as a upstart task, however when I do a kill -9 on the nginx master process, it isnt spin up again by upstart. I have included respawn into the nginx.conf file. Start and stop works just fine14:33
localg0dhello everyone. I have a quick question. I have an assignment due in college and I'm trying to find someone from Liberia(WestAfrica)that would be able to answer some quick questions to help me finish that assignment.14:34
localg0dmaybe if any of the ops are from that region or know a good website ?14:34
BluesKajHey folks14:39
ActionParsniplocalg0d: try in #ubuntu-offtopic14:42
CherryHillTonyI'm new at terminal, what exactly do I type in it?14:42
cfhowlettCherryHillTony, type in skype14:42
Terabytewhen I isntall apparmor,  apt-get install -y apparmor apparmor-profiles, running apparmor_status tells me apparmor module is not loaded. 12.04 64 bit LTS server.14:43
CherryHillTonyok i'll be back in a moment14:44
dewdgang-frankhello, real quick question: Every time I start my ubuntu from a VM and launch firefox it says that its already running. but its not. is there some kind of taskmanager to force quit any not responding firefox sessions that are in the background??14:44
bjensen82is it normal if I do kill -9 on a process being monitored by upstart, that it wont restart the process?14:44
cfhowlettdewdgang-frank, killall firefox should do it from the terminal. also, check the vm to verify you don't have ff set to autostart on login14:45
CherryHillTonyAborted (core dumped)14:46
solarshi, if I've got a windows installation (uefi) and want dualboot ubuntu, do I need to switch to legacy, or will this work with an uefi installation so I can select ubuntu and windows on boot?14:46
ActionParsnipCherryHillTony: try renaming the Skype configuraion folder14:46
tengelichello! what's the default permission of the / folder, please?14:47
CherryHillTony?14:47
Picitengelic: drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 Nov 29  2012 /14:47
ActionParsnipCherryHillTony: the skype config may be causeing issue, if you rename the folder then rerun you will get vanilla settings14:47
tengelicthanks, Pici!14:47
ActionParsnipPici: do you smell a chowner ;)14:48
PiciActionParsnip: I hope not ;)14:48
ActionParsnipPici: what is the '22' in that output denoting?14:48
cfhowlettCherryHillTony, open your file manager. it should autopen your /home directory.  display hidden folders.  find .Skype.  select properties by right clicking on the folder.  rename it.  then start skype again.14:49
ActionParsnipPici: hmm, could be num of subdirs14:49
tnmindIf anyone at all could assist with my boot/efi issue, I would very grateful. Details and logs are here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/375924/an-error-occured-while-mounting-boot-efi14:50
PiciActionParsnip: number of 'links' to that path.  in this case, its because there are 21 subfolders.14:50
PiciActionParsnip: hardlinks, I *think*14:50
ActionParsnipPici: makes sense, thanks :)14:50
oaulakhanyone know about good ubuntu themes?14:53
ActionParsnip!theme14:53
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy14:53
Togusaguys, a question14:55
oaulakhlike how to rotate diffrent screen in ubuntu?14:56
Togusadoes ufw manage its own configuration regardless of what you set using iptables directly? i.e.: if you modify the rules and then you reboot14:56
Togusashouldn't ufw restore its own rules14:56
Togusaand discard the manual changes?14:56
jpdsTogusa: It does.14:56
PaRaD0xxRo, I didn't reboot14:56
SidewinderIn which directory are the default screensaver pictures located {12.04}? TIA.14:57
Togusathanks, just wanted confirmation! :)14:57
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oaulakhanyone know about necopost themes?14:59
np8Does anyone know how to sync (once) a one-way sync from ubuntu one sevice? I accidentally deleted the files from my computer and would like to get them back15:00
ActionParsnipnp8: use your backups. You make backups right?15:00
np8ActionParsnip: Backups?15:01
cfhowlett:)15:01
np8I have all backup'ed in the ubuntu one cloud :)15:01
oaulakhanyone know about necopost themes, how they guys make it working in linux?15:01
cfhowlett!patience|oaulakh,15:02
ubottuoaulakh,: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/15:02
np8But seriously, cant i just download a zip from the ubuntu one cloud?15:03
ActionParsnipnp8: yes, to a usb disk etc.15:03
np8ActionParsnip: I seriously should.15:03
WeinribZhi15:04
CherryHillTonyI've  just found out that because of an update, it wont work on my version anymore!15:04
ActionParsnipnp8: people love learning the hard way15:04
uczen16hi15:05
jmgkhey15:05
uczen16how i can turn out a line?15:05
uczen16in terminal?15:05
ActionParsnipuczen16: how do you mean 'turn out a line'?15:05
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np8ActionParsnip: But i have the files still in the ubuntu one cloud, and i can download them "one by one". Theres still like hundreds of folders and thousands of files. It would take me ages to download them all and make the directories. Isn't there any easier ways to download them all at once?15:06
pandamasterI'm having issues with my computer15:07
pandamasterwireless card15:07
donnibhi, i have a problem with running apt-get upgrade i get http://pastebin.com/2YpxfeJj15:08
Sidewinderpandamaster, I'm no wireless expert but others may be better able to help you if you listed error messages, or other info about what is/is not happening.15:09
Touhou11pandamaster: Anything useful by running dmesg?15:09
ciampixhi all. I have a ubuntu 13.10 (I am an experienced user) amd64. It hangs for a while, some seconds to a minute or so. If I ctrl-alt-f1 and then ctrl-alt-canc it reboot instantly ... how can I check what is blocking?15:10
pandamasterwhen I click on the network button, I only shows wired potions, and doesn't notice that I have a wireless card.15:11
Sidewinderpandamaster, Have you tried unplugging your wired network cables and rebooting?15:12
pandamasteredit: when I click on the network button, it only shows the wired network auto etho0.15:12
pandamasterI've reboot multiple times15:12
ciampixpandamaster: laptop? Check first to have enabled the wireless card ... sometimes it is a blue key "Fn" + some function key...15:12
SidewinderWith the cables unplugged?15:13
pandamastermy computer has a wireless button, does that help?15:13
alnkpa2ciampix: in the terminal you get by ctrl-alt-f1 login and try "top"15:13
alnkpa2ciampix: without the "15:13
jaami_how to restart vino server?15:13
ucz15can anyone help me with terminal command?15:14
ciampixalnkpa2: if I do it I see only active tasks (cpu100%), not hanging tasks...15:14
pandamastersorry, xchat closed for no reason.15:14
numer_0a15:15
alnkpa2ciampix: well, the "hanging" tasks should be active15:15
pandamasterI do have a blue functon key15:15
ucz15hi, can anyone help me with terminal command?15:15
jaami_please let me know the command to restart vino server15:15
ciampixpandamaster: then see if you find a function key with an antenna icon...15:15
DJones!details | ucz1515:15
ubottuucz15: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:15
ucz15i need to show lines15:16
ucz15i type cat passwd|nl|15:16
pandamasterI see that in the upper right corner of my keyboard15:16
SidewinderAnyone know in which directory the default screensaver pictures are stored?15:16
alnkpa2ucz15: what kind of output do you want to see?15:17
jaami_do ypu ppl get this msg?15:17
ucz15and i need to see them in line 7,6,515:17
ucz15not in 5,6,715:17
ciampixpandamaster: ok if you press fn+function_key_with_antenna_icon and wait some minutes happens something?15:18
ucz15i type cat passwd|nl| head -7| tail -315:18
alnkpa2ucz15: so you want the lines in reverse order?15:18
ucz15and it shows me 5,6,7 lines15:18
ucz15yes!15:18
ActionParsnipucz15: cat -n /etc/passwd | head -n 7 | tail -n 3 | tac15:18
pandamasterthe wireless key would glow blue when I was running windows, but now it doesn't do anything15:19
x0011BFI'm trying to resize (expand) my system partition, but GParted has the resize option greyed out. Is there something specific I need to do to allow that? There's a bunch of unallocated space right next to it.15:19
ucz15ok necermind, i got it!  thanks !15:19
ActionParsnippandamaster: does the keyboard work?15:19
ActionParsnipucz15: you 'got it' by me telling you15:19
pandamasteryes, very well, and all of the function shortcuts too.  Including the media controls on top of the computer15:20
ciampixpandamaster: ok see if you need some proprietary drivers in the system setup...15:20
alnkpa2x0011BF: you would need to unmount the partition15:20
Touhou11x0011BF: Probably because you have it mounted. Try from a LiveCD15:20
x0011BFHrm15:21
x0011BFIt's a virtualbox.15:21
ciampixpandamaster: which version of *buntu do you have?15:21
x0011BFOh, I guess I can do that anyway.15:21
x0011BFRight.15:21
alnkpa2x0011BF: best way would be to use the a livecd15:21
x0011BFForgot that disk images exist.15:21
pandamasterokey I checked I do need to install a driver15:21
x0011BFThanks alnkpa2 and Touhou1115:21
pandamasterubuntu 11.0415:21
ciampixpandamaster: :-)15:21
ActionParsnippandamaster: natty is eol15:21
ciampixpandamaster: ... then why not upgrade to al least 12.04?15:22
pandamastermy computer is too old to run 12.0415:22
ciampixpandamaster: system requirements of 11.04 and 12.04 are the same...15:23
pandamasterthat's strange, I've had no issues with it when compared to 12.04...?15:23
ciampixpandamaster: ... and I doubt that you will be able to install proper wireless drivers to a version with repository that do not respond anymore...15:24
pandamasterI checked the forums, and I can proably install the drivers through the terminal15:25
Guest14619hello15:25
n00k13hi15:25
ciampixpandamaster: ... low on resurces? Try lubuntu! it is even quicker than 11.04 and there is a nice 13.10 version out there ... ;-)15:27
ciampixpandamaster: from lubuntu.org ...15:27
pandamasterI checked the forums again, and found a command that will determine what components I am using15:27
arkiehey for some reason i cant install nokogiri15:28
Guest14619anyone know how to use a good music downloader?15:28
cpinedMorning, when  I launch Remmina to connect to a remote ubuntu box I get the login screen then I get the connection box and that's it.  I see that the login was good but nothing else happens, I do see a button at the bottom right hand corner but my mouse is'nt able to click it, it is frozen.15:28
pandamasterI checked the button again, and it said that my wireless card isn't ready yet.15:29
arkiei try sudo apt-get install nokogiri and it says E : Unable to locate package nokogiri15:29
Guest14619i used to use bearshare when i used windows.  So i'm fairly new to this linux/ubuntu stuff15:29
ciampixpandamaster: ... I have to insist: one of the reasons for which Linux is more secure than Windows is that there are more frequent updates ... please update to a more modern version!15:29
arkieIf I do gem install nokogiri I get ERROR: While executing gem ... (Gem::FilePermissionError) You don't have write permissions into the usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8 directory15:29
auronandace!list | Guest1461915:30
ubottuGuest14619: auronandace: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».15:30
ActionParsnipGuest14619: www.clearbits.net   then use Transmission15:30
pandamasterit says something about an x86 thing being requred, and then my computer shuts down15:30
ciampixpandamaster: ... open a terminal and type: dmesg|grep firmware ... if you see something it is really easier to update to a modern ubuntu/lubuntu...15:31
ciampixpandamaster:  ... I have to go now ... bye!15:32
lomandvubuntu studio不能使用ubuntu one了15:32
pandamastera punch of numbers and letters talking about different computer stuff pops up15:32
cpinedhello, anyone know why it takes up to a minute to get the password prompt when I ssh to a ubuntu box on my local network?  And then after entering the password it takes a long time to get on the box?15:34
ciampixpandamaster: ok your wireless is lacking a "firmware" that is a piece of proprietary software that the wireless card needs to work. Proprietary drivers have a copy of it inside and since your ubuntu is old you have no choice other than update and than install proprietary drivers for wireless.15:35
joosseehey is adamk around?15:39
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joosseedoes anyone have a few minutes to help me troubleshoot fglrx driver issue? card is ATI FireMV2250 on ubuntu 12.04 64. basically, i just cant get it to work :(15:43
joosseeHOWEVER: there is a fix, as I had the card working but 24 short hours ago15:43
joosseeif i could turn back time... if i could find a waaaay15:43
oaulakhsci-fi themes like iron man movie have?15:43
logikoshi, i have a ubuntu LAMP server with apache2 and i have alot of experience with WHM/cPanel15:43
logikoswithout WHM/cPanel what is the best way to create a new web user15:44
logikosis there a good tutorial out there that you know of?15:44
jaamii lost connection15:44
logikosi've googled it and tryed to do some reading but nothing seems to answer the question really15:44
logikosso far15:44
jaamii forgot the nick wh was asking me about uni15:45
jaamiwho***15:45
beanlogikos: you'd have to do a lot of it manually. Add the user, add them a vhost for apache, etc.15:46
logikosbean: i realize this, but i was hopeing there was a tutorial to walk me threw the steps to do it manualy15:47
logikosso that its less likely i screw something up15:47
hitsujiTMOlogikos: there's no "best" way to do such a thing. it's really dependent on your needs. WHM/cPanal simply have their way of doing things, but one of the main questions you have to ask are what the restrictions you want to place onn the individual users15:47
logikoshitsujiTMO: i mention cPanel just becuase that is how i've always done it, but now i'm working for a company with an in-house server running an application that is used in house, not public and they dont have cpanel15:48
logikosthey created there primary site in /var/www/ which i think is really stupid15:48
logikosas in my experience everything should be under a specific user15:49
logikosso i want to create a user, and move that site to the users own public_html dir15:49
logikosi can create the user and i can cp the files and chown them all15:49
logikosthen figure out where the vhosts are defined and point it to the right place15:49
logikosi know these are steps and i understand them (kinda)15:49
hitsujiTMOlogikos: that's a really bad way of doing it actually15:50
logikosbut a step by step tutorial to make sure i dont miss anything would be helpful15:50
zykotick9hitsujiTMO: +115:50
logikoshitsujiTMO: you have my attention15:50
logikoswhy is it bad?15:50
logikosi ask to learn, not to challenge15:50
hitsujiTMOlogikos: because the users then have to access the same 1 account. you have no audit trail, no restrictions, no nothing15:51
logikos'users' ? the 'users' useing the current site do not have an account on the server, they have a username and password to the site, manauged by php15:51
hitsujiTMOlogikos: you want your sites under a group folder. not a user folder.15:51
logikosok15:52
logikoswhere are group folders kept15:52
logikosso you would have permissions be 775 and 664 instead of 755 and 64415:52
logikos?15:52
logikosi have little experience with groups15:52
logikoslittle to no experience15:52
logikosthere are only 2 people (presently) who need ssh or ftp access to these files15:53
hitsujiTMOlogikos: where every you like. you can use /var/www as a group folder. or /srv/www .15:53
vegombreilogikos: hi how you doing?15:53
Nach0zI heard that the WUBI installer was done away with a few versions ago, someone confirm?15:53
realman9994whos15:54
logikoshitsujiTMO: my main reason for sugesting we move i tot a user folder is to get it out of /var/www/ because we are useing bitbucket and when we do a pull to /var/www ther eis a mix of permisions15:54
logikosdifferent files are owned by different people15:54
logikosfiles created by php are owned by apache15:54
logikosfiles pulled are owned by the puller15:54
logikosphp cant write to those files15:54
logikosits iritating15:54
hitsujiTMOlogikos: first questions: how many users need access to the server. how many users would work on a sigle site. and should a user have read/write access to a site he's not working on?15:54
gordonjcplogikos: you need to look at standard deployment techniques15:55
logikos3 users have ssh access to the server, all 3 are sudo root15:55
logikos2 users work on the site15:55
Eugene_macHello everyone! I have a mac-related problem described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186000 . Can anyone bother him/herself helping me with that?15:55
arkieim having trouble upgrading from ruby 1.8.7 to 1.9.215:55
logikosboth users with there own repos for testing, there repos are in seperate locations owned and grouped to there user15:55
hitsujiTMOlogikos: so its just 1 site on the server?15:55
cpinedMorning, when  I launch Remmina to connect to a remote ubuntu box I get the login screen then I get the connection box and that's it.  I see that the login was good but nothing else happens, I do see a button at the bottom right hand corner but my mouse is'nt able to click it, it is frozen.  Can anyone please help?15:55
logikosvegombrei: hi, wasnt ignoring you, just tryin to figure something out15:56
cpinedhello, anyone know why it takes up to a minute to get the password prompt when I ssh to a ubuntu box on my local network?  And then after entering the password it takes a long time to get on the box?  Can anyone please help?15:56
logikosgordonjcp: i'd love to.... i'm used to being the only developer ... lol15:56
logikoshitsujiTMO: right now, yes .. in the future .. who knows .. that is another reason why i thought we should move from /var/www and create a user for this site, incase we want another site later15:56
vegombreilogikos: how does one scan repositories to see if they have particular software??15:57
logikosbut my thinking is wrong, please correct me, i wana do it right15:57
* realman9994 15:57
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FloodBot1realman9994: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:57
Ari-YangI've heard about installing packages from newer ubuntu versions on old ones.... Is it okay to install Raring (13.04) .deb on Quantal (12.10)?15:57
vegombreiis there a corel draw x6 equavalant software in ubuntu??15:57
logikosvegombrei: not sure what your asking, right now there is one repo on bitbucket, 2 users have access, each user pulls that repo to ther eown user dir to develop and test, then they add, commit, and push back to the bitbucket repo15:58
logikosthen from the production location we pull15:58
logikosi'm new to bitbucket and repos etc, been useing it now for the past 3 weeks15:58
* realman9994 15:58
logikosthis is the first i've had to work with other developers15:58
logikosused to being a sola act15:58
logikossolo15:58
logikosso i'm learning15:58
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hitsujiTMOlogikos: i'm gonna do a small description for you on a very simple setup on pastebin. there's a bit too much be writing it to the main chat16:00
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joosseehey guys, I keep getting an error on login "Sorry the application amdcccle has closed unexpectedly". Details points to the amdcccle binary... ?16:06
FloodBot1linux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:06
linuxmmm..16:06
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logikoshitsujiTMO: thanks16:07
np8I must have messed up my partitioning system. The very first recovering steps are usually "sudo mount /dev/sdaX /mnt" and "sudo chroot /mnt". However, the latter command gives "chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory"-error. What should i do_16:11
Rorynp8: Did "sudo mount /dev/sdXN /mnt" give an error?16:11
np8nope16:12
Rorynp8: Can you please run the command "mount" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com16:12
np8ok16:12
np8Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406068/16:13
Rorynp8: Also what are you trying to do overall?16:13
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np8Rory: 1) I Installed Ubuntu 13.10, with partitions for root, home and swap.  2) I had to do some alterning in the fstab to get the right folders to be mapped to /home. 3) I did "sudo mount -a" to see that it is working. 4) I tried to go on my windows 7 partition, but it would not open it, since it was "hibernated"16:16
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np85) Tried to mount the windows 7 partition with sudo and read only > got the same kind of errors when trying to mount. 6) Tried to reboot on windows. Did not succeed. It jammed on black screen and blinking white line. 7) forced reboot, again same problem. 8) Tried to reboot on windows 7 recovery partition. Got red ERROR -word with font size 300. It said that could not open file C:/RECOVER.DAT16:19
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orbisvicishow do I remove a broken package ?16:20
orbisvicis(apt-get refuses to do anything)16:20
np89) Tried to reboot on ubuntu. Got some error with had something to do with grub. And it did not start ubuntu, just a command-line likey thing. 10) Booted with Live-CD and now i want to reinstall grub to get my ubuntu and my partitions working..16:21
ResQueanyone know a good syslog server and log viewer that will run on linux and windows?16:21
ResQuei would prefer opensource16:22
cristian_cHi16:22
cristian_cI've installed bustle16:22
cristian_cAfter I've launched it, I've got this message: 'No diagram loaded' 'Having saved the output of bustle-dbus-monitor' to a file , open that file to see a sequence diagram of D-Bus activity.'16:22
cristian_cHow I solve this?16:23
np8Rory: I guess it has something to do with the editing of the fstab -file. Funny thing is that "sudo mount -a" gave no errors. The errors came in when i tried to reboot ubuntu. I guess this has nothing to do with the windows.16:23
franco65ciao16:23
franco65!list16:23
ubottufranco65: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:23
franco65!list16:24
franco65!list16:24
jailbotjailbot16:27
cristian_cI've also installed graphviz16:28
np8Rory: I found the reason for the error, it is because the /dev/sda5 i mounted did not contain bin/sh, as it should.16:28
cristian_cBut nothing has changed :(16:28
cristian_cAny ideas?16:28
hitsujiTMOlogikos: here's a really simple setup to gove you an idea http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406130/16:29
hitsujiTMOhmm, seems paste.ubuntu.com sucks for word wrapping :P16:30
Nach0zlol16:30
np8I am really in a deep trouble now then. The other "partition" contains swap but it still looks to be like >100Gt16:30
logikoshitsujiTMO: ty, reading16:30
np8so my ubuntu partition has somehow 'merged' with my swap partition..16:31
np8and i cannot edit the fstab - file since it is inside the 'merged' partion.16:32
hitsujiTMOlogikos: it should give you an idea of what bits to start looking into. things like g+s flag, etc16:32
Rory!grub | np8 try following the first link here if you aren't already16:32
ubottunp8 try following the first link here if you aren't already: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub216:32
joosseewhere is the brug config file located?16:32
joosseegrub16:32
np8How can i burn a CD with live CD ubuntu? is it possible?16:32
wheatthinnp8, do you have multiple burners/roms?16:33
np8nope..16:33
wheatthinnp8, how about a flash drive?16:33
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np8But i have a mobile phone. (android). and luckily the only partition which shows up has all the important stuff16:34
np8wheatthin: yes16:34
wheatthinone that can be formatted?16:34
np8wheatthin: mobile phone == flash drive?16:34
wheatthinnp8, no, it has to be like a jump drive16:35
np8well. maybe and usb stick somewhere.16:35
np8an"16:35
wheatthinnp8, I'd use that, and use dd to copy the iso image to the jump drive, then boot from the jump drive16:35
rianbnb16:37
logikoshitsujiTMO: i'm used to useing chmod with bits rather than the flags so chmod g+ws doesnt make much sence to me ... i'm used to and understand 755 (rwxr-xr-x) or 644 (rw-r--r--)  or 777 (rwxrwxrwx) looking at chmod g+ws ... i assume that adds 'w' to the group chaning 644 to 664 or 755 to 775 ?16:37
wheatthinlogikos, it just means you're setting permission at group level16:37
joosseeguys i noticed i am running and fglrx 13.2 beta. Is there a way to revert to an earlier version of fglrx?16:40
hitsujiTMOlogikos: g+w  gives group writing permission. so turns 644 to 664. the g+s is a setgid bit so that any file or folder retains created in that folder retains the parents group rather than the creators group. http://www.linuxnix.com/2011/12/sgid-set-sgid-linuxunix.html   this might be better at explaining16:42
hitsujiTMOignore that first retains16:42
geirhalogikos: If you want to learn more about unix permissions, I recommend  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions16:42
Rorynp8 and everyone generally: If your Android phone is rooted there's a cool app that lets you boot your PC from just an iso as if it were a bootable flash drive. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.softwarebakery.drivedroid16:43
RoryI find it saves time if you boot from images a lot16:43
RoryProbably not worth rooting your phone just for that though, so procede as usual if that doesn't apply to you16:44
np8Rory: Ok thanks :)16:44
Roryjoossee: You can switch between them in the Additional Drivers tool16:44
joosseeRory, additional drivers has never shown anything...?16:45
Roryjoossee: How did you install the 13.2 driver?16:45
joosseeRory, i think i erroneously added the update repo or some other bogus repo...?16:45
hitsujiTMOjoossee xorg edgers?16:46
Roryjoossee: Could you please put on http://paste.ubuntu.com the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"16:46
cpinedHello, I have a Remmina problem.16:46
joosseeright away16:46
Rorycpined: Go ahead and ask16:46
jaatroxhey guys16:46
hitsujiTMOjoossee: the easiest way to swap down is prob with ppa-purge16:46
Roryjoossee: You could try first "sudo apt-get --purge remove fglrx fglrx-updates"16:48
joosseehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6406225/16:48
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Roryjoossee: Yes I see xorg-edgers in there16:48
joosseehitsujiTMO, Rory yes thats what the forums seemed to indicate. I should try that now? my ppa's are on the pastbinb above16:48
Roryjoossee: sudo apt-get -y install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers/ppa16:49
hitsujiTMO!ppa-purge | joossee16:49
ubottujoossee: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html16:49
joosseeRory, ok done. few errors about not being able to find package for "xorg-edgers/p ppa"16:50
helmut_hi16:50
Roryjoossee: Did you mis-type16:50
Roryjoossee: Copy and paste my command exactly. To paste to a terminal use ctrl-shift-V16:50
DrDittersdorfHi guys. I used this guide to share my virtual machine with host http://superuser.com/questions/258026/using-samba-to-share-a-folder-from-a-linux-guest-with-a-windows-host-in-virtualb . but I don't have WRITE permissions. What do i do wrong?16:50
joosseemiss cutted and pasted. xchat a little wonky my bad16:50
joosseehrmmm still same error16:51
joosseesudo apt-get -y install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers/ppa16:51
Roryjoossee: Could you pastebin the command you ran and the full output? To copy from a terminal use ctrl-shift-C16:51
cristian_cAnother question16:52
joosseehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6406242/16:52
cristian_cHow can I disable the mysql auto-load?16:52
cristian_cAny ideas?16:53
wheatthin autoload?16:53
cristian_cwheatthin, yes16:53
wheatthinyou mean from upstart?16:53
cristian_cwheatthin, when the system boots, mysql is loaded16:53
wheatthincristian_c, sudo update-rc.d mysql disable16:54
Roryjoossee: try sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers16:54
cristian_cwheatthin, ok16:54
Roryjoossee: I'm not completely up on the syntax so I think I made a mistake the first time16:54
logikoshitsujiTMO, geirha: ty, will read up16:54
logikosty for the resources16:54
joosseeRory, same error as last lines of pastebin16:55
logikosi understand the binary of rwx rwx rwx16:55
logikoswasnt sure how +s played in ..16:55
lucidohow come my X doesn't start with the resolution I defined in my xorg.conf?16:56
hitsujiTMOjoossee: is xorg-edgers source in /etc/apt/sources.list ? or in a seperate file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?16:56
ActionParsniplucido: check in /var/log/xorg.0.log16:56
wheatthinlucido, cause it's dynamically set16:56
nicexeI am on 9.04. I have some unallocated space on a USB flash drive of mine. How can I add a partition if I don't know the user's password? (in other words I need to create a partition to some unallocated space as not root)16:56
cristian_cwheatthin, update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/mysql missing LSB information      update-rc.d: see <http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts>    System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/mysql do not exist.16:56
ActionParsnipnicexe: Jaunty is dead and gone (thankfully)16:56
Roryjoossee: OK we will do it manually. Can you please pastebin "ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"16:56
wheatthincristian_c, sorry, can try   sudo service mysql disable16:57
joosseehitsujiTMO, Rory oh yes i see it there as a .list file?16:57
joosseealso a xubuntu one16:57
lucidoActionParsnip, wheatthin , it shouldn't be dinamically set if there is a definition in xorg.conf (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406251/). Here's my X log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406249/  First it recognizes the modeline and validates it but then it says it changes it to "NULL"16:58
nicexeActionParsnip: Well I can't upgrade because even if I leave the password textbox blank (which is my password) it is still not accepted16:58
nicexealso I am not doing a clean install16:58
joosseehitsujiTMO, does not appear in sources.list16:58
cristian_cwheatthin, Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service mysql disable     The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, but disable is not supported for Upstart jobs.16:58
wheatthinlucido, yes, unless it's being overwritten once again by another resource16:59
computerguyis there any command in ubuntu linux to install cisco packet tracer?16:59
hitsujiTMOjoossee: that's ok then. you used apt-add-repository then. so ppa-purge "should" work16:59
joosseexubuntu-dev-xfce-4_12-precise.list16:59
geirhajoossee, Rory: only files ending with *.list inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ are used, so   tail -n+1 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list}   would yield a more correct output17:00
computerguyanyone tell what command works for installing packet tracer?17:00
Roryjoossee: You could remove the xorg-edgers repository and then run this script to identify all the packages it installed17:00
Roryjoossee: for p in $(dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | cut -f1); do apt-cache madison $p | grep edgers; done17:00
lucidowheatthin, something's wrong because if I don't have an xorg.conf, then it starts with 1024x768 and if I have then it says in the log that it also starts with 1024x768 but my lcd tv cant diplay it in that case17:00
RorySorry if there's a massively better way17:00
nicexeI am on 9.04. The system spams at me at every opportunity to upgrade. I can't do it because when I leave the password blank the window just closes. (my password is blank)17:00
joosseeRory, ok so i paste that intoa .sh file and run it?17:01
hitsujiTMOjoossee: sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa17:01
Rorynicexe: You could change your password, your password can't be blank17:01
adamklucido: Pasatebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.17:01
Roryjoossee: No, just paste it in the terminal, it will tell you what packages came from that repository17:01
joosseeoh hitsujiTMO 's way seems to be doing something17:02
RoryOK great17:02
lucidoadamk, xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406251/  Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406249/17:02
joossee...17:02
lucidoand I already upgraded to a modern graphics card17:03
joosseeoh there we go. disabling the ppa and now downloading a bunch of stuffs? hitsujiTMO ?17:03
Snake2kHello everyone, I just installed windows 7 on a separate primary partition of my drive, now im in windows but I don't get the grub selection at boot anymore, it just boots straight into windows.17:03
hitsujiTMOjoossee: it should be bringing you back to whats in the repo17:03
Snake2kAnyone know how i can fix that?17:03
joosseeoh ok great17:03
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joosseehitsujiTMO, and Rory so once this completes i should reinstal fglrx with "sudo apt-get install fglrx"?17:04
Rory!grub | Snake2k first link here17:04
hitsujiTMOSnake2k: run this from a live cd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair17:04
ubottuSnake2k first link here: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub217:04
adamklucido: Sorry, I'm really not familiar with how th envidia driver does things. I'm surprised, though, that the nvidia GUI config program doesn't have an option to select a resolution and have it use it by default.17:04
Snake2kThanks Rory & hitsujiTMO17:04
hitsujiTMOjoossee: this should install the fglrx in the repo17:04
joosseehitsujiTMO, roger that. i will reboot when completed and report back.17:05
joosseeoh boy17:05
lucidoadamk, yes, prolem is that X sets modes two time, see log lines: 218 and 33417:05
Guest194Hi, I cannot install wine on Xubuntu 13.10 Live CD: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: wine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu7) but it is not installable"17:06
joosseehitsujiTMO, Rory got a crash notice "a problem occured while installing software" package fglrx17:06
Roryjoossee: Could you pastebin the full output?17:06
cristian_cwheatthin, How can I solve?17:06
joosseeRory, its not text?17:06
Roryjoossee: Where are you seeing it?17:06
RoryGuest194: Could you run from a terminal: "sudo apt-get install wine1.4" and put the full output on http://paste.ubuntu.com - to copy and paste from a terminal use ctrl-shift-C17:07
joosseein a crash report window in unity Rory17:07
lucidoadamk, it does have but I think that is for the session and not the display manager screen17:07
wheatthincristian_c, I had already suggested   'sudo service mysql disable'   without quotes17:07
joosseerory error is "fglrx 2:8.960-0ubuntu1.1: fglrx kernel module failed to build17:08
cpinedhello, can someone help me with a ssh question?17:08
adamklucido: Sorry, I really don't know what would be doing this.  With open source drivers, you'd create a modeline (as you did) and use the PrefferedMode option in the appropriate Monitor section.17:08
cristian_cwheatthin, but I've not tried with quotes17:08
cristian_cwithout quotes17:08
Guest194Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406313/17:08
Roryjoossee: You should "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --purge remove fglrx fglrx-updates" and then "sudo apt-get install fglrx"17:09
cristian_cwheatthin, and I get that error message17:09
cristian_c:(17:09
lucidoadamk, hm I'll try a PrefferedModeoption17:09
RoryGuest194: Can you now run "sudo apt-get -f install"17:09
Guest194Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406320/17:10
RoryGuest194: Did you already run sudo apt-get update?17:10
cristian_cwheatthin, any other ideas?17:11
Guest194Rory: done, I get the same output17:11
joosseeRory, ok done seemed to have reinstalled with no errors in console but crash report persists. i believe there is a bug in crash reporting where it may report old errors. rebboting and coming back17:11
Guest194This is my apt-cache policy wine1.4: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406331/17:13
RoryGuest194: Try sudo apt-get install wine --no-install-recommends17:13
wheatthincristian_c, http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/recommended-way-to-enable-disable-services17:13
Guest194Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406340/17:14
RoryGuest194: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine17:15
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joosseeRory, hitsujiTMO success. thanks guys!17:16
Rory!yay17:16
ubottuGlad you made it! :-)17:16
cristian_cwheatthin, done17:16
wheatthincongrats17:18
cristian_cwheatthin, when I reboot, I can check if the command has worked17:18
* joossee is back in all his dual screen glory!17:19
joosseenow the way that I got into this mess was trying to fix a very slow dash home button in unity. Is there any fixes for this? Can I replace it with something else like a start button or just speed it up? it worked well with the open vesa drivers but no good with fglrx ...?17:20
Guest194Rory: works, thanks. But that-s strange because I can not find the reference to dpkg --add-architecture in the Ubuntu community wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine17:21
joosseeive done a lot of reading on the forums but that only lead to me replacing fglrx with some wonky versions17:21
ActionParsnipjoossee: could switch to Gnome shell :)17:21
joosseeActionParsnip, i would like that very much!17:21
joosseeActionParsnip, i had a bad experience trying lxde17:21
ActionParsnipjoossee: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell17:21
ActionParsnipjoossee: log off and choose the new session in the login screen befor eyou log on17:22
joosseeActionParsnip, and then pick it from the lgoin drop down? i will be able to come back to unity if i panic right?17:22
joosseewoot17:22
ActionParsnipjoossee: sure, you can have as many desktops and shells installed as you desire17:22
joosseeoohh only 71megs17:23
deezedhey, what do you guys think is the best backup software if I'm using kde?17:23
pirrettar17:23
ActionParsnip!backup17:24
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning17:24
joosseelol17:24
Rorydeezed: Doesn't Kubuntu come with a backup tool anyway?17:24
ActionParsnipprobably kbackup or similar17:25
deezedRory: I was wondering that. didnt find any17:25
zoggghey, anyone want to buy a brand new never opened 4gb ram stick?17:25
zogggi have no need for it17:25
ActionParsnipdeezed: search the k menu fr the word backup, see what comes up17:25
ActionParsnipzoggg: try in #ubuntu-offtopic17:25
zogggthats not offtopic17:26
zogggevery ubuntu machine runs on RAM17:26
deezedActionParsnip: I did, there was nothing. anyway I'm just gonna try the kbackup, installing it from synaptics17:26
ActionParsnipdeezed: that was a guess :)17:27
ActionParsnipdeezed: we use backula here where I work :)17:27
ActionParsnipdeezed: myself, I use rsync from file server to USB drive17:28
RoryWhat's that image viewer that has simple tools built in like cropping and flipping?17:28
ActionParsnipRory: gthumb ?17:28
deezedActionParsnip: uhm.. I actually did many backups 2 years ago. But I would apreciate if I find something with great sync properties.17:29
RoryActionParsnip: Ah yes you were right, it was hidden under a sidebar17:29
JokesOnYou77Hi all.  When I # sort file.txt > file.txt why does it obliterate the file and not repace it with sorted text?17:32
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zykotick9JokesOnYou77: 1) why are you root and 2) just use a different filename instead of trying to overwrite the originoal17:33
lucidohow can I change the login screen resolution and is there any advantage in using nvidia-331 over nvidia-304?17:33
zykotick9lucido: any nvidia driver over 310 would be a benefit (that's when Steam/Nvidia/Ubuntu started working together)17:33
lucidozykotick9, what would be the benefit?17:34
zykotick9lucido: better performance in 3D17:34
JokesOnYou77zykotick9: I'm running one of my servers as root as a dev testing environment.  And I know how to get around it.  I'm trying to igure out why it's not working in the first place.  I thought > would redirect stdout to the file?  But that doesn't seem to be happening...17:34
zykotick9JokesOnYou77: your asking your input and output to be the same... this is a problem17:35
eric_30hey! anyone who can help me get my wireless up and going with ubuntu server?17:36
JokesOnYou77zykotick9: Ok.  So I can't use the same file as input and output stream?17:36
JokesOnYou77zykotick9: bummer. But thank you17:36
zykotick9JokesOnYou77: not ususally, and not in this case.17:36
abradleyI've changed my password with passwd and it says "changed successfully" but when restart putty and ssh back in it still requires old password. restart of ubu doesn't fix17:37
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testpil0tabradley, can you somehow paste the output ?17:41
cpinedcan anyone please help me with a simple ssh question?17:41
testpil0tusually this shouldnt happen, if the password has been successfully changed17:41
abradleyI had to use passwd <user>17:41
testpil0tcpined, dont ask to ask. just ask17:41
abradleyI was just usign "passwd"17:41
abradleygot it now, thanks17:41
MonkeyDustcpined  if you're sweet17:41
testpil0tyes17:41
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cpinedI'll try my best :)17:42
cpinedlately when I ssh onto my ubuntu box on my local network from any pc it takes almost a minute to get the password prompt and then it takes a while to actually get on the box, if I ssh localhost from the said box it is fine.17:43
olegbcpined: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/slow-ssh ?17:44
cpinedolegb: I will give it a try...although I use the IP address, would that matter?17:45
chtochingo_hello friends17:46
chtochingo_how is it going17:46
chtochingo_fuck you17:46
olegbcpined: if it tries to lookup the IP and fails (retries ... fails)17:46
ArchBastardchtochingo, lol17:47
olegbcpined: I would try to "UseDNS no"17:47
cpinedolegb:Ok trying now :)17:48
killerI recently updated my app and it has a status "published" on ubuntu site but it is not searchable in software center17:48
trismkiller: might ask in #ubuntu-app-devel17:49
cpinedolegb:Do I need to add the client ip to /etc/hosts for every client?17:49
cpinedolegb:Do I neet to restart after modifying the sshd_config file?17:49
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MrYaahIs there a headless / minimal install for ubuntu? I'd like to set up ubuntu with bspwm without preinstalling a different desktop environment17:51
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD   MrYaah17:51
MrYaahand this one has no graphical environment?17:52
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beanMrYaah: any "server" iso will not have a gui.17:53
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cpinedolegb:Sweet! that worked...muchas thanks!17:54
olegb:-)17:55
cpinedon to the next pain17:55
MrYaahcool, ty. I'll play around with them. I think im going to use the minimal cd since other sources seem to imply it doesnt have a gui either17:55
joosseeok so i am liking gnome a lot better BUT it crashes whenever i make display changes (wallapaper) or to panels... ?17:56
cpinedI have Remmina....when I try to connect to another ubuntu box running same OS version I can't get pass the login page/report...I see an ok button but it is not clickable17:56
joosseehttp://google.ca17:56
cpinedplease can anyone help me with that?17:56
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Danatohitsujitmo: Are you there?17:59
hitsujiTMOMrYaah, be warned that minimal cd does not work with uefi systems.18:00
hitsujiTMODanato: yessum18:00
cpinedplease, can anyone help with another problem?  Remmina?18:00
bean!patience | cpined18:00
ubottucpined: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/18:00
Danatocool, ive got a new reply, but ive got no idea how to do what he asked https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/125005118:00
ubottuUbuntu bug 1250051 in linux (Ubuntu) "Backlight switched off at login screen" [Medium,Incomplete]18:00
cpinedok...I'm new to this...I was not aware of any protocal, thanks.18:01
joosseeguys I am trying to add the gnome3 PPA and I want to make sure it using the PPA for 12.04. it mentions something about 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to make sure... what do I do?18:02
hitsujiTMODanato: he's asking you to install the 3.12 kernel to see if it fixes the issue18:02
Danatohitsujitmo: and how do i do that?18:03
oswinHi ! Does anyone know how I can configure scrolling to scroll line by line ? Instead of 3 lines18:04
hitsujiTMODanato: what's the output of: uname -a18:05
Danatohitsujitmo: Linux danato-Lenovo-G780 3.11.0-13-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 23 07:38:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux18:05
Roryoswin: In Firefox?18:08
Roryoswin: In Firefox go to about:config and find mousewheel.min_line_scroll_amount18:09
ripthejackerhow do I add the ppa for the latest kernel in the software sources?18:11
ripthejackerThis is url for the packages, but how do i add this to the software sources18:12
ripthejackerhttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/18:12
hitsujiTMOlads is there no linux-image-extras with the mainline kernels?18:12
hhthi, how to open windows 7 registry from ubuntu system?18:12
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hitsujiTMODanato: can you run these to get the mainline kernel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406630/18:15
Danatohitsujitmo: ok18:16
hitsujiTMODanato: let me know if there are any errors18:16
Roryripthejacker: There isn't a repository you can add, but there are some more detailed answers here http://askubuntu.com/questions/160535/how-do-i-add-the-mainline-kernel-ppa18:16
hitsujiTMODanato: onces that's done reboot. if you have a problem booting the new kernel, just choose the 3.11 kernel to come back here again and we can remove the 3.12 kernel again18:17
Danatohitsujitmo: where will that option be?18:18
oswinRory, no, in the system, for the trackpad18:18
trismhitsujiTMO: -extra was dropped recently on mainline builds: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2013-April/027820.html18:18
ripthejackerRory: the pre-proposed contain the same packages as the one in that url?18:19
oswinRory, I tried to find the right property in xinput but nothing seems to match this18:19
ripthejackerI mean the same version of the kernel?18:19
hitsujiTMODanato: at the grub boot menu, its normally hidden so you'll have to either hold left shift or right shift or hit esc to bring up the grub menu.18:19
hitsujiTMOtrism: cheers for that18:19
Danatohitsujitmo: noted18:20
ripthejackerDanato: it will be in the advanced option for ubuntu18:21
ripthejackerin the boot menu18:21
hitsujiTMOonce its installed try a reboot to see if the kernel will boot, and if thats ok, we'll disable the brightness script to see if the kernel fixes it or not18:21
hitsujiTMOdanato^18:22
DanatohitsujiTMO: got that part18:22
Danatoso far its the third dong bar growing :P18:23
hitsujiTMODanato: i've no leave/join messages displayed so please ping me when you're back18:23
DanatohitsujiTMO: no problem18:24
cpinedcan someone please help me with a bizarre Remmina issue?18:24
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DanatohitsujiTMO: I got an error18:33
DanatohitsujiTMO: dpkg: error processing linux-headers-3.12.0-031200-generic (--install):18:34
Danato dependency problems - leaving unconfigured18:34
hitsujiTMODanato: can you paste the exact error?18:34
DanatohitsujiTMO: dpkg:  Errors were encountered while processing:18:34
Danato linux-headers-3.12.0-031200-generic18:34
hitsujiTMODanato: can you install the other one first then try that again18:35
DanatohitsujiTMO: sure18:35
DanatohitsujiTMO: it worked18:36
DanatohitsujiTMO: all done, gonna reboot now18:36
linuxuser1000hello18:37
Johnny_Linux 18:38
linuxuser1000i've upgraded my xfce terminal to 0.6.2-3.Is that version final18:38
linuxuser1000i needed it for the encoding menu bug fix18:38
linuxuser1000i got it from the trusty purposed18:39
linuxuser1000i wonder if it's final18:39
linuxuser1000or if i should downgrade18:39
gumble_hey, I wanted to alias my /opt/lampp/lampp, so that I don't have to enter the whole path every time. if I only enter lampp to the terminal, it does execute /opt/lampp/lampp. but when I "sudo lampp start" I get: sudo: lampp: command not found18:41
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gumble_ah found my mistake18:44
JinxyI can't ssh into my server18:48
Jinxyno idea why18:48
Jinxywould deleting my local hosts file help this?18:48
Jinxyor at least emptying its contents18:49
hitsujiTMOJinxy: whats the error?18:49
JinxySo weird, literally just today I try to ssh in and it goes 'Connection Refused'18:49
Jinxyit's definitely the right address...I was setting up ssh keys yesterday to maybe18:50
vAd0rwould ubuntu be considered suse or red hat18:50
hitsujiTMOJinxy: try adding the -v flag18:50
Jinxyokay...18:50
daftykinsvAd0r: neither, they're all different18:51
vAd0rim trying to get it loaded on this old hp ml350. It will go through the entire install like it is working and then it will not boot up18:51
JinxyhitsujiTMO: Well that worked! Thankyou very much. Bit confused though, I thought -v would specify verbosity? Why would that make it work? And why do you think this would happen in the first place?18:52
PriceyJinxy: Exactly.18:53
hitsujiTMOJinxy: erm, it shouldn't have worked. -v is verbosity alright. must have been a kink in the network somewhere18:53
Jinxyhmm still, it's nice to know I can look at the login process to get a better idea of what's going on. Thanks again :))))18:54
craigbass1976Is there some level or RAM where Ubuntu won't register any more than that?18:57
craigbass1976I'm aware of my grammar BTW, just didn't think it through...18:57
reisiocraigbass1976: not that you can afford, no18:58
reisiocraigbass1976: however some BIOSes/mobos are hard coded to only accept so much18:58
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hitsujiTMOcraigbass1976: as reisio was saying, most chipsets in desktop market atm have a 32GB RAM limit19:00
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thebishopis there anywhere to order Canonical swag from the US?  I was going to get a mug, but it's 14gbp just for shipping19:01
craigbass1976thebishop, where's it going?19:01
thebishopcraigbass1976, Philadelphia, USA19:01
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paquHi19:03
paquanyone?19:04
daftykinspaqu: just ask19:04
paqutl-wn722n  u12.0419:05
paquanyone can help with this usb card?19:06
hitsujiTMO!details | paqu19:06
ubottupaqu: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."19:06
paquok , so i tried install this card, but it wont works, it seems to turn on for a while but when i try to select my wifi connection nothing happens19:08
paqulshw gives19:08
paqu description: Wireless interface19:08
paqu       physical id: 119:08
paqu       bus info: usb@1:619:08
paqu       logical name: wlan019:08
FloodBot1paqu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:08
paqu       serial: f8:1a:67:1c:f4:7019:09
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hitsujiTMODanato: is the new Kernel working?19:12
manuhello19:17
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heavyammoHi. I am trying to disable my nVidia card on my laptop and only use the Intel one. I did some Googling but a lot of different things and methods are coming up and I am confused. Can you guys help?? Here are my hardware specs if that's relevant19:19
heavyammoI have bumblebee installed btw19:19
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heavyammosudo apt-get install bbswitch19:25
heavyammo:/19:25
heavyammoE: Unable to locate package bbswitch19:26
DJonesheavyammo: Maybe its a more specific package name http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bbswitch&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all19:27
OerHeksdkms & source19:27
Terabytewhy doesn't this chmod command work given that I own the folder: http://codepad.org/pooGZYkK19:28
OerHeksthere is a better way to use hybrid nvidia > bumblebee19:29
OerHeksheavyammo ^^19:29
MonkeyDustTerabyte  try ith sudo19:30
UUseranyone can help me gettting graphics to work in codeblocks? I m new to codeblocks IDE19:30
MonkeyDustwith*19:30
heavyammoDJones, thanks19:30
heavyammoOerHeks, do you mean better than the stock settings of bumblebe19:31
heavyammoor just using bumblebee19:31
UUseranyone can help me gettting graphics to work in codeblocks? I m new to codeblocks IDE19:31
UUseranyone?19:31
MonkeyDust!anyone | UUser19:32
ubottuUUser: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.19:32
DanatohitsujiTMO: are you there?19:32
jmgk!anyone19:32
jmgkhm19:32
UUserwhat happened MonkeyDust?19:32
hitsujiTMODanato: yes, is the new kernel booting?19:32
OerHeksheavyammo, bbswitch is part of the bumblebee package afaik >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee19:33
UUserDoes anyone can help me gettting graphics to work in codeblocks? I m new to codeblocks IDE.19:33
DanatohitsujiTMO: hardly, i could only login with unity, but thats all I could do. I couldnt connect to internet with it, so i tried to use my phone to talk to you here but it was hard19:33
heavyammoOerHeks, it turns out so yes ;) But I want to disable ot completely, I feel like it's on sometimes because of the heat19:33
MonkeyDustUUser  stop asking if you can ask a question, pleaqse, just ask the question19:33
UUseri've been asking the question; can anyone help me getting graphics to work in codeblocks IDE?19:35
hitsujiTMODanato: looks like your wifi/ethernet doesn't work with it. have you booted back to 3.11?19:35
DanatohitsujiTMO: if its possible to do it offline, i could look for another irc app and keep talking here19:35
heavyammoMonkeyDust, I feel like I've seen you here like.... some years back. Are you paid support?19:35
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DanatohitsujiTMO: yeah19:35
jmgkUUser:  what specifically is wrong?19:35
MonkeyDustUUser  dezcribe the problem in detail and in one line, then wait if someone knows the answer19:37
UUserjmgk: I m new to this IDE.. We are taught turbo cc with the BGI graphics header but i really dont like to use this compiler.. damn old it is.. want to move to gcc compiler along with codeblocks ide19:37
UUserbut dont know how to use graphics in CB..19:37
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joosseehi guys. I switched from Unity to Gnome and it crashes ALOT, mostly when making changes to desktop like panels or wallapaper. I installed the Gnome3 PPA and it did a number of updates, but still gnome crashes all the time and therror seems to be "gnome-panel crashed with SIGFPE in g_closure_invoke{}"19:38
Jinxyso `/etc/rc.local` is where you can run commands on startup, where do I write commands to be run on shutdown?19:39
hitsujiTMODanato: if you can, comment out the backlight script in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup, then reboot to 3.12 kernel and see if the backlight work without the script, edit  /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup again, reenable the script and rebott back into the 3.11 kernel and we'll remove 3.12 kernel19:40
heavyammojoossee, yesterday I installed gnome flashback, it was buggy, weird and it crashed my entire system finally, I reinstalled19:40
heavyammo... just saying :P19:40
joosseeheavyammo, "reinstalled" ...?19:41
heavyammojoossee, as in reinstalled my entire system / ubuntu. I was not able to log in after I rebooted. But that's just me, I don't know linux too well, I don''t know about your level of knowledge19:43
joosseeheavyammo, marginally higher than that :)19:43
apullzhey guys19:44
DanatohitsujiTMO: commented, going for another reboot now19:44
heavyammojoossee, ;p xfce wtf though19:44
apullzI'm trying to install windows because my ubuntu is so buggy and I'm a noob. I've downloaded 3 different ISOs for windows 7 but when i extract them or mount them it says there is no files19:45
apullzthey can't all be corrup19:45
joosseeheavyammo, i had worse problems with xfce :(19:45
apullzt19:45
apullzhelp meeeeeee19:45
heavyammojoossee,  but if you are from the old school I guess you would go back to gnome19:45
joosseeapullz, #windows brah19:45
apullzno, im using ubunu atm19:45
MonkeyDustapullz  better ask in ##windows how to install windows19:45
apullzand ubuntu won't let me get rid of ubuntu19:45
joosseewell if unity wasnt such a laggy turd on my video card, id stick with it but ...19:45
tjbiddleHey guys - I have a package that was kept in an in-house repository that seems to have been removed. It's still on some machines, can I pull the .deb from a server when it was installed through apt-get?19:46
pseudorandomHi everybody, I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 however I can't boot now I have the message 'error: file not found' and grub rescue command line. I have gparted livecd i tried grub-install but it doesn't work either ("Path '/boot/grub is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting") what can I do?19:46
joosseeapullz, repartition your drives or erase the partitions and remake them in winblows, you can do this from your BIOS likely19:46
heavyammoapullz, why don't you just try to get support, fix ubuntu, ditch linux19:46
pseudorandomI don't have any spare DVDs for burning an ubuntu live dvd :(19:46
* joossee nods at heavyammo 19:47
apullzCan't partition from the BIOS19:47
apullzalso, only have a windows USB19:47
apullzand one SSD i need to get windows on19:47
apullzbut i currently have ubuntu on it and its too glitchy to let me do anything19:47
joosseeapullz, sounds like you need $107 and a trip to bestbuy19:47
MonkeyDustapullz  this is not the windows support channel, type /join ##windows   (that's double #)19:47
apullzi'm not sure you understand the problem19:48
OerHeksapullz, not really an ubuntu issue19:48
apullzim asking how to fix ubuntu19:48
airtonixapullz: oh ok19:48
joosseeyeah we understand, its not a #ubuntu problem19:48
apullzit is an ubuntu problem19:48
Piciapullz: it sounds like you're asking how to install Windows.19:48
airtonixapullz: describe the problem then. (without newlines)19:48
apullzIM ASKING ABOUT A PREREQUISITE TO INSTALL WINDOWS19:48
airtonixapullz: oh is that a ubuntu problem?19:49
joosseeapullz, call Hp then brah. figure out how to partition your drives.19:49
apullzhahaha19:49
apullzokay19:49
MonkeyDustapullz  in what way is that ubuntu related?19:49
apullz?19:49
Picitoo many helpers...19:49
apullzbecause i need to fix linux19:49
apullzin order to install windows19:49
airtonixoh ok19:49
apullzignore that im installing windows19:49
MonkeyDustapullz  no, first install windows, then linux, as windows would ruin the grub19:50
apullzlmao19:50
apullzno19:50
apullzthats not what i want19:50
hkanURGENT! I ran "sudo apt-get remove gdm*" and it removed ALMOST EVERY package installed on the system. I can still use firefox and spotify because I opened them before the removing and nothing else is working. I'm afraid to restart system, please help me!19:50
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joosseeapullz, let me be clear because the expeinced users in here are too nice: YOU NEED TO REPARTITION YOUR DRIVES. THERE IS A MILLION WAYS TO DO THIS.19:51
reisiohkan: should be a log in /var/log/apt19:51
airtonixjoossee: i understood you up till those funny large letters19:51
jmgkjoossee:  stop yelling19:51
reisiohkan: just reinstall it all19:51
apullzBasically I'm extracting an ISO but when I do so,  ubuntu decides that every ISO I download is empty19:51
joossee^^ too nice! lol19:51
apullzand joossee, i know how to repartitioni19:51
reisioapullz: what makes you think they aren't empty19:52
apullzbut i need a liveusb first19:52
joosseeapullz, so you want #ubuntu to tell you to pirate windows?? seriously dawg?19:52
hkanreisio: will try that right now, thanks a lot19:52
airtonixapullz: and you didn't try using unetbootin?19:52
apullzit's not pirateing, i have a key19:52
apullzi've tried unetbootin19:52
pinPointis anyone here using apache 2.4.x from a manual install or ppa that is not part of the official repos?19:52
apullzit just puts little text files onto the usb19:52
reisiopinPoint: probably someone is19:52
* joossee still needs help with the GNOME crashing issue19:52
reisioapullz: oh you're trying to put windows on a usb stick?19:53
apullzYeah, I know how to do it19:53
airtonixjoossee: did you try install ubuntu-desktop ? (i'd look this up first)19:53
OerHeksapullz, so your download is corrupted, what do you want us to do ?19:53
reisioapullz: so what don't you know how to do19:53
apullzbut the ISO's are "empty"19:53
joosseeairtonix, yep its installed19:53
reisioapullz: doesn't sound like you know how to do it, then19:53
reisioapullz: try http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-16706019:53
Danato<hitsujiTMO> back, I still had the same problem there19:53
airtonixjoossee: re install it? sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall ?19:53
apullzreisio, done that already19:53
joosseeairtonix, kk19:53
apullzreisio, i have lurked my problem for days19:54
reisioapullz: well you must be doing something wrong :) try #windows19:54
apullzreisio, you suggest i go to windows with a linux problem. that is not helping19:54
airtonixjoossee: or you could try installing gdm again?19:54
reisioapullz: imaging windows onto a usb stick is not a linux problem19:55
DanatohitsujiTMO: so how do i uninstall that kernel?19:55
joosseeairtonix, I was under the impression that GDM does not exist anymore? replaced with light-DM?19:55
Aliekezhihi, I have a strange problem : when I open an image, with any program, the session just close automatically as if I was logging out...Any idea where it can come from ? (or what logs to check ?)19:55
apullzreisio, it is if it's done on ubuntu19:55
airtonixjoossee: depends if you're using gnome-shell. gdm is still very much alive.19:55
pseudorandomhi, anyone with an idea how to fix 'error: file not found' on grub rescue command line?19:55
joosseeok i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop ... logoff?19:55
hitsujiTMODanato: can you pastebin: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-19:55
reisioapullz: everything you can do from Ubuntu is covered by the link I gave, the rest is some other domain19:56
deper29pseudorandom: is the file actually there?19:56
hkanreisio: is there something like a recovery mode from ubuntu dvd like windows has? there's a lot to reinstall19:56
airtonixjoossee: oh are you trying out 3.10?19:56
wilee-nileeapullz, Do you want linux and windows, you will have to resize the linux with linux for a unallocated space, the usb load is easy.19:56
pseudorandomdeper29: i dont know which file it is. perhaps it is, but which?19:56
joosseeairtonix, no 12.04 server 6419:56
deper29pseudorandom: what exactly are you trying to do?19:56
joosseeairtonix, Unity is too crappy for my purposes19:56
airtonixjoossee: 12.04 server with gnome classic or shell?19:56
pinPointreisio: would it be a pain to maintain it?19:56
reisiohkan: you can do it from 'try'19:56
airtonix(sounds like shell)19:57
reisiohkan: or from the existing system without rebooting, probably19:57
joosseeairtonix, whichever gnome i pick it seems to do the same one19:57
pinPointvs doing apt-get update style?19:57
joosseeload the same one19:57
deper29pseudorandom: are you trying to do a regular boot and it won't let you?19:57
reisiopinPoint: yes of course19:57
pseudorandomdeper29: boot my computer. "error: file not found" is what i see immediately after powering up laptop19:57
apullzThe usb load is easy, I agree. I have done it before. It's just that my Ubuntu is so buggy atm it says all my ISOs are empty when I know they're not.19:57
pseudorandomdeper29: yes, a regular boot19:57
deper29pseudorandom: did you delete your kernel?19:57
deper29that's what it sounds like you may have done. Or moved your kernel19:57
pseudorandomdeper29: no i didn't. i did upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 though19:57
airtonixjoossee: do you want gnome-shell or gnome-classic?19:58
joosseeairtonix, either or i dont care, i just want it to run without crashing19:58
deper29pseudorandom: do you have a livecd to boot from?19:58
DanatohitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407085/19:58
hkanreisio: I can reinstall them, it's not the problem. What I'm asking is if Ubuntu can reinstall its required packages automatically?19:58
pseudorandomdeper29: I have gparted livecd only19:58
erictr1cki have a very strange issue on an ubuntu 12.04 machine where i cannot make any requests from that machine back to itsself (curl, wget, etc..) though the external domain or ip address. I have seemingly opened up the firewall completely to allow all incoming traffic,  but am still unable to make a connection. Any ideas what could be going on here?19:58
rogan_hi all, i need help on vlc19:58
reisiohkan: 'ubuntu-desktop' will require a whole lot of them, yes19:58
Aliekezhihi, I have a strange problem : when I open an image, with any program, the session just close automatically as if I was logging out...Any idea where it can come from ? (or what logs to check ?)19:58
gvoerictr1ck: Normal19:59
airtonixjoossee: well if you want gnome-shell, i'd start with 13.04 desktop then install gnome3 ppa19:59
hkanreisio: that should do the trick, thanks again :)19:59
erictr1ckgvo: it is?19:59
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wilee-nileeairtonix, The shell is in the repos ppa's are not supported.19:59
rogan_i tryed vlc --sin --alsadev:hw:Intel without any succes19:59
deper29pseudorandom: if you have something you can boot from(like to try ubuntu or something) you can see if your kernel is there or what is up19:59
gvoerictr1ck: I noticed that a few versions back.19:59
airtonixwilee-nilee: what's your point?19:59
joosseeairtonix, installing 13.04 is not an option19:59
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gvoerictr1ck: I don't have a reason but just accept it.  I did.20:00
wilee-nileeairtonix, That is my point, why would they use a ppa?20:00
* joossee will brb20:00
airtonixwilee-nilee: because it's more up to date? i thought that would be obvious20:00
pseudorandomdeper29: where normally kernel resides?20:00
hitsujiTMOdanato: sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.12.0-031200 linux-headers-3.12.0-031200-generic linux-image-3.12.0-031200-generic20:00
deper29pseudorandom: /boot20:00
wilee-nileeairtonix, Also possibly problematic, and if so not supported here.20:00
pseudorandomdeper29: oops there's no kernel there... wtf? o_O20:01
airtonixwilee-nilee: oh so i'm not allowed to help someone with it here then?20:01
deper29pseudorandom: lol20:01
deper29pseudorandom: okay, so we need to get you a new kernel then20:01
pseudorandomdeper29: i have a symlink from /vmlinuz to there but there's no kernel....20:01
hitsujiTMODanato: you might want to: sudo update-grub                after that to make sure it sets 3.11 as default again20:01
pseudorandomdeper29: yeah, how could I do that?20:01
airtonixwilee-nilee: will you kick me from the channel if I do ?20:01
Aliekezhidoes someone know how to fix this bug with unity ? the panel on the left appears on the start of session, but then dissapear and doesn't come back....20:01
DanatohitsujiTMO: ok20:01
wheatthinairtonix, you can do so on your own terms, in a private chat, it just isn't supported via community help20:02
deper29pseudorandom: are you booted from an Ubuntu live disk?20:02
pseudorandomdeper29: gparted livecd20:02
wilee-nileeairtonix, That is not the point help, but with informed information  is all.20:02
MonkeyDustbrb20:02
deper29pseudorandom: I wonder if you could copy its kernel to your ubuntu drive?20:02
* airtonix rols his eyes20:03
wheatthinotherwise they'll verbally flog you for doing so.20:03
pseudorandomdeper29: i could try that, but would it work? let me try it20:03
deper29or there's a copy of the kernel online somewhere. let me look20:03
joosseeno change. Gnome still crashes immediately upon trying to add anything to a panel. restarts fine and runs fine until the next time i try to edit deaktop20:03
Aliekezhidoes someone know how to fix this bug with unity ? the panel on the left appears on the start of session, but then dissapear and doesn't come back....20:03
deper29pseudorandom: no, it wouldn't "just work" to do that20:03
deper29it's a bit more involved than that :P20:03
wilee-nileeairtonix, I can't nor would I kick you anyway, and having a attitude is part of using your own subjective opinon on this help, questionable at best.20:03
erictr1ckgvo: I found the issue because I have a website that is running wordpress and and 'plugin' called RAMP. RAMP is a 'plugin' that pushes content from a staging build to a production build though xmlrpc. however, both builds cannot communicate. this is when i realized that the server cannot do external calls to itsself and am assuming this is the issue. :(20:03
apullzI have a problem, I'm trying to extract an ISO's files onto a USB. When I mount these ISO's nautilus shows that they are empty, or just a little text file with nothing in it. I have tried to do it through UNETBOOTIN but the result is the same, the only files on the USB after are the text files, or not in some cases. My Ubuntu is very glitchy at the20:03
apullz moment.  Any ideas?20:03
DanatohitsujiTMO: done, thanks20:04
polaco_como se abre dos sesiones de x en una maquina con diferentes usuarios20:04
airtonixwilee-nilee: i'm not really sure what you're trying to achieve?20:04
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pseudorandomdeper29: i have found something20:04
wilee-nileeairtonix, An informed user and help.20:04
UUserhi there20:04
pseudorandomdeper29: i can see that actually these files exist but for some reason gparted livecd command line didn't show them up. perhaps i mounted the file system in a wrong way...20:04
gvoerictr1ck: Yes, I put an entry in my hosts file pointing my external fqdn to a 192.168.2.xx address to get around that kind of problem.20:05
deper29pseudorandom: http://goo.gl/GjDFCX20:05
airtonixwilee-nilee: so according to informed people, what is the supported version number of gnome-shell that is acceptable in this channel20:05
odalmirolá amigos!20:05
ol-folksok guys, while trying to compile xcompmgr-dana i followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1412644 so i could get all the dependency packages and its still saying something about a environment variable?20:05
polaco_hola odalmir20:05
deper29pseudorandom: there are a couple of solutions on there. Ignore all of them except the one that involves mounting your drive and apt-get the kernel20:05
deper29the other solutions are dumb20:06
odalmirpreciso de uma ajuda20:06
polaco_dime odalmir20:06
odalmirpolaco entende portugues -brasil20:06
wilee-nileeairtonix, This channel is support for what's in the repos unless there is no other choice, it has always been this way. Your ego is keeping you from some basic cognitive reasoning.20:06
odalmir? rs...20:06
abradleydoes this error mean that I must install a jre first or that I've done something wrong with the installer? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407106/20:06
Pici!br | odalmir20:06
ubottuodalmir: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.20:06
airtonixwilee-nilee: my ego? oh ok.20:06
wilee-nileeyeah your ego it's obvious20:06
phunyguywell that escalated quickly.20:07
airtonixwilee-nilee: you still didn't answer my question/20:07
pseudorandomdeper29: ok i have some kernels20:07
wilee-nileeGROW UP20:07
odalmirok!  vou tentar! gracias!20:07
Piciwilee-nilee, airtonix: can we drop it please?20:07
zykotick9!info gnome-shell | airtonix20:07
ubottuairtonix: gnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8.4-0ubuntu5 (saucy), package size 285 kB, installed size 1000 kB20:07
ol-folksi notice that i did not get the dependency erorrs the other guy got but i still have that last part he had heres mine http://paste.debian.net/65497/20:07
deper29pseudorandom: did you chroot your system like that step says?20:07
pseudorandomdeper29: but all are generic, is that ok?20:07
deper29mounting things and all20:07
pseudorandomdeper29: nope, it turns out i was checking wrong folder, /boot of livecd instead of mounted device20:07
wilee-nileePici, no problem, however is my point on offering a ppa to a user with informing them valid?20:07
wilee-nileewithout*20:08
deper29pseudorandom: follow that guide up to the chroot20:08
deper29well, do the chroot as well :P20:08
apullzI have a problem, I'm trying to extract an ISO's files onto a USB. When I mount these ISO's nautilus shows that they are empty, or just a little text file with nothing in it. I have tried to do it through UNETBOOTIN but the result is the same, the only files on the USB after are the text files, or not in some cases. My Ubuntu is very glitchy at the20:08
apullz moment.  Any ideas?20:08
airtonixzykotick9: :) that's the kind of answer I'm looking for.20:08
Piciwilee-nilee: As long as you explain that PPAs are unsupported and that we can't really ensure that it won't break their system... yes.20:09
OerHeksapullz, again: so your download is corrupted, what do you want us to do ?20:09
wilee-nileePici, That was not done and was my point.20:09
zerooneonei'm looking for the numactl package which is supposed to be in 'main' but it doesn't show up in apt-cache search20:09
apullzOerheks, I have been using these ISOs since before Ubuntu20:09
deper29apullz: are you mounting it properly?20:09
zerooneonei'm tracking precise20:10
polaco_i need 2 session xwindows witch 2 users20:10
pseudorandomdeper29: i have kernel, do i still have to follow that guide?20:10
apullzdeper29, I'm on ubuntu forums and i'm not sure now20:10
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Richhhhow can i check which graphics card is inside this old OSless PC?20:10
phunyguy!info numactl precise | zerooneone20:10
ubottuzerooneone: numactl (source: numactl): NUMA scheduling and memory placement tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8~rc3-1 (precise), package size 22 kB, installed size 101 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; ia64; mips; mipsel; powerpc)20:10
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apullzdeper29 how would i mount them properly?20:10
deper29pseudorandom: up until the chroot20:11
phunyguyzerooneone, is it one of those supported arch's?20:11
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apullzdeper29: i've just been using the archive mounter20:11
OerHeksapullz, you said you downloaded 3 different windows7 iso's and they turn up empty ..20:11
deper29apullz: I'm wondering what command you used to mount20:11
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erictr1ckgvo: ok, thanks for the suggestion. so i put 184.xxx.xx.xxx  webserver.mydomain.com and restarted apache but still no luck. am i missing something here?20:11
apullzdeper29: i right click and choose archive mounter20:12
apullzI'm reading about UDF isos now20:12
pseudorandomdeper29: ok done20:12
apullzoerheks: i downloaded 2 of them a long time ago20:12
deper29apullz: 'mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt'20:12
gvoerictr1ck: That's pretty much what worked for me.  I don't run the same software as you however.20:12
deper29pseudorandom: okay, do 'update-grub'20:12
zerooneoneubottu: phunyguy yes i'm using amd6420:12
ubottuzerooneone: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:12
pseudorandomdeper29: "error: failed to get canonical path of aufs"20:13
phunyguyzerooneone, do you have the universe repo ernabled?20:13
phunyguyenabled*20:13
phunyguybecause it is not in main.  It is in universe/20:13
hitsujiTMOapullz: deper29: windows iso are udf not iso9660. so: -t udf20:14
irreverantim getting an error udevd(91) /sbin/modprobe -bv pci:v00000........ 229 te3rminated by signal 9 killed20:14
irreverantand im at a initramfs prompt20:14
irreverantwhat is going on?20:14
deper29hitsujiTMO, apullz, I did not see it was windows iso, my bad :P20:14
irreverantso init 5 is gui right? im assumming this is init ram file system?20:15
wilee-nileeirreverant, This at boot, a fresh install, a livevd/usb, a post kernel update?20:15
apullzdeper29: hitsujiTMO: I have tried both of those commands, UDF and iso9660. Both of them say "mount: according to mtab /path/to/iso is already mounted on /mnt as loop20:15
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irreverantat boot, after a fresh install from a live cd20:15
zerooneoneok thanks phunyguy i didn't have universe. coming from debian, i'm not sure what that means so i need to read up a bit20:15
deper29apullz: so, you've already mounted it20:16
apullzdeper29: hitsujiTMO: I dont see them mounted anywhere20:16
deper29pseudorandom: hrrmmm20:16
phunyguyirreverant, did you check the md5 of the iso when you downloaded it?20:16
irreveranti just did a ls and i see dev root bin etc conf run .....20:16
irreverantits a good version20:16
phunyguythat wasn't what I askwed.20:16
phunyguyasked*20:16
irreverantused it to load this copy on this computer20:16
irreverantno i did not20:16
hitsujiTMOapullz: make sure you're mounting it correctly: if you've already mounted it then you need to unmount it first before trying it again:  sudo mount -t udf -o loop,ro,unhide,uid=$(id -u) /path/to/iso /mount/point20:16
wilee-nileeirreverant, Use nicks, check the md5sum of the origonal iso is where I would start.20:16
deper29pseudorandom: you are chroot'd in?20:17
irreverantwilee what do you mean?20:17
wilee-nilee!tab | irreverant20:17
ubottuirreverant: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.20:17
pseudorandomdeper29: nope. actually i'm not sure what's chroot so i think not20:17
wilee-nilee!md5sum | irreverant20:17
ubottuirreverant: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows20:17
deper29pseudorandom: did you do all of those mounts I mentioned?20:17
LuNaTiC-7whats the best programm to use ubuntu within windows installation ?20:18
pseudorandomdeper29: yes20:18
LuNaTiC-7like vmware etc20:18
phunyguyirreverant, it just sounds like you had a failure during install, and maybe a bit got flipped.20:18
pseudorandomdeper29: i just didn't do chroot /mnt20:18
deper29pseudorandom: so you mounted /sys, /proc and /dev accordingly?20:18
phunyguyit won't tell you it failed, but the file still isn't right.20:18
gvoerictr1ck: Wait.  Are you not natted?20:18
deper29do the 'chroot /mnt'20:18
pseudorandomdeper29: like in the guide. ok i will do that too20:18
deper29then do 'update-grub'20:19
apullzdeper29: hitsujiTMO: that worked thanks20:19
pseudorandomdeper29: chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': exec format error20:19
deper29hitsujiTMO: you use quite a few options I never use :P20:19
deper29pseudorandom: wtf20:19
deper29fine20:19
deper29let me see20:20
erictr1ckgvo: im not sure... i only have access to this one server and am now realizing that it is also probably behind a load balancer, which probably opens it up for many other possible issues :(20:20
BluesKajLuNaTiC-7:  virtual box works well for windows as a guest on ubuntu20:20
hitsujiTMOdeper29: thats just for udf to be absolutely sure for it to work, most of the options shouldn't actually be needed be needed20:20
gvoerictr1ck: From the command line, do an ifconfig20:20
irreverantid ont understand how a copy from ubuntu.com that installed this working copy can be bad or turn bad between installations20:20
deper29pseudorandom: 'chroot /mnt /bin/bash'20:21
gvoerictr1ck: that's the address you want to put in the hosts file.20:21
erictr1ckgvo: http://pastebin.com/yr5jEB7G20:21
joosseeairtonix, ok so both fglrxinfo and "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p" return a "BadRequest" .. this means I'm running unity 2d right?20:22
pseudorandomdeper29: just a sec... i'm on it. battery of laptop died i had to restart :/20:22
MoleManIs it possible to add a static route for everything above/between 192.168.0.50 - 192.168.0.255 ? or is it not possible as it's not a proper subnet or whatever?20:22
wilee-nileeirreverant, It may be a bad install, it can be a host of other possible varibles, we have to go through these to get to an answer, does that make sense to you?20:22
airtonixjoossee: no idea, i don't use unity or ati cards.20:22
gvoerictr1ck: PUt 10.182.97.135 in the hosts file.20:22
erictr1ckgvo: AWESOME!!!!!20:23
wolfy1339how would i remove ubuntu (re-installing later) from a dual-boot with windows 8, i fi cannot boot from usb because of grub (i have uefi)20:24
erictr1ckgvo: thanks so much, probably just saved me hours upon hours20:24
irreverantyes20:24
irreverantwilee-nilee20:24
irreverantyes it does20:24
wilee-nileewolfy1339, Can you boot windows as of now?20:24
gvoerictr1ck: That's what I'm here for.  ;)20:24
wolfy1339wilee-nilee, yes i'm in windows right now20:25
pseudorandomdeper29:the same error: Exec format error. i think it might be a bitness issue. my pc is 64 bit (probably ubuntu too) and i am afraid gparted livecd is 32 bits... :/20:26
juniour1hi20:26
wilee-nileewolfy1339, using grub or the windows boot to get there?20:26
UuserHello20:26
deper29pseudorandom: could be. Why not get a 64-bit livedisk?20:26
wolfy1339wilee-nilee, umm i don't know... i select the windows boot loader option from the grub boot menu20:26
joosseegrrrr im so frustrated20:26
joosseeand i dont mean sexually20:27
pseudorandomdeper29: i don't have any blank dvds around me, also my computer does not boot from usb :/ i am stuck with that gparted thing20:27
joosseebut.. also that20:27
joosseepseudorandom, unless you are on a sony or mac you should be able to boot usb...?20:27
deper29joossee: not true20:28
pseudorandomjoossee: i am on dell inspiron 15r se. in bios i don't see usb as a boot option20:28
Jordan_Uwolfy1339: Why can't you boot from USB? You should be able to remove Ubuntu's UEFI entry and make Windows' default, the just remove your Ubuntu partition.20:28
wilee-nileewolfy1339, Ah so from grub to windows, If you can get it to boot windows without grub removing ubuntu can be done with any partitioner including the on board of windows. You might try the ##windows channel if you can't get that windows boot by windows set.20:28
deper29I have an old compaq that doesn't20:28
deper29pseudorandom: reboot into the usb20:28
deper29don't mount anything, I want to try something else20:28
pseudorandomdeper29: i can't, how can i boot into usb? in bios i don't see such option20:29
deper29pseudorandom: my bad. I meant boot into your gparted disk :P20:29
pseudorandomdeper29: im inside gparted, reboot?20:29
wolfy1339wilee-nilee, the only way i know of booting windows without grub, is to enable secure boot20:29
deper29pseudorandom: yeah20:29
joosseepseudorandom, what happens when you hit F12 during boot?20:30
wilee-nileewolfy1339, You get my point though right, to remove ubuntu all you have to do is make sure windows can boot itself, then removal of ubuntu is no biggie.20:30
pseudorandomjoossee: i see a list of devices to choose for booting20:30
joosseepseudorandom, in dell bios that should bring up your boot otpions.. the option to hit F12 may or may not appear20:30
joosseepseudorandom, and USB is not an option?20:30
Jordan_Uwolfy1339: wilee-nilee: Secure boot has nothing to do with this as both Windows and Ubuntu support secure boot.20:31
pseudorandomjoossee: no it's not20:31
wilee-nileeJordan_U, Your missing the point I make, they want to remove ubuntu, I am saying make sure windows boots itself then remove ubuntu.20:31
joosseepseudorandom, here we are: F12 > Change boot mode setting > Legacy Boot Mode, Secure Boot Off > Yes > F1220:32
joosseepseudorandom, http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19469063.aspx20:32
UrielVigilantI deleted a folder called GNUSTEP this will affect my system ?20:32
Jordan_Uwilee-nilee: Which is exactly what I said earlier :)20:32
wilee-nileeJordan_U, I did not see that, hehe. ;)20:32
UrielVigilantGNUSTEP its part of ubuntu 13.10 ?20:33
pseudorandomjoossee: ok i can try that, but give me a sec i'll try what deper29 has in his mind first :)20:33
pseudorandomdeper29: booted into gparted. what now?20:33
Jordan_Uwolfy1339: You can modify UEFI boot entries in GNU/Linux using the tool efibootmgr.20:33
joosseeguys i need help figuring out some display driver stuff... basically I am running Unity in 2D all the time, no matter what I select. also, i have fglrx installed, and it seems to be using it, but fglrxinfo returns a badrequest. i cannot figure out what is going on... :(20:34
wolfy1339Jordan_U, yes, but what do i do? anyways i found a guide20:34
deper29pseudorandom: 'sudo mount /dev/sdX /mnt'20:34
deper29where X is your partition of course20:34
pseudorandomdeper29: yeah20:35
deper29pseudorandom: 'sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdX20:35
deper29'20:35
UrielVigilantgnustep!20:35
deper29so if you have ubuntu installed on sda1, it would be 'sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda'20:35
pseudorandomdeper29:oh, i tried that before there is an error. let me write it down20:35
deper29don't put the partition number in there20:36
pseudorandomhm20:36
pseudorandomok20:36
pseudorandomwithout number one sec20:36
deper29just sda20:36
pseudorandomdeper29: installation finished No error reported20:36
pseudorandomdeper29: i will reboot now to see if that worked20:36
deper29pseudorandom: unmount first20:37
deper29'sudo umount /mnt'20:37
Jordan_Uwilee-nilee: What20:37
deper29actually, it should probably take care of that on reboot anyway20:37
pseudorandomdeper29: oh, i didn't do that just rebooted. :/ i'll try again if that didnt work20:37
deper29but you were certain you had kernels in /mnt/boot, yes?20:38
joosseeman where is adamk when you need him!20:38
Jordan_Uwilee-nilee: Sorry, please pastebin the output of "efibootmgr".20:38
pseudorandomdeper29: yes i was certain and now i just booted into my ubuntu :) thanks a lot!20:38
deper29pseudorandom: good to hear!20:38
pseudorandomdeper29: or not20:38
deper29wait20:38
deper29:(20:38
deper29what?20:38
joosseepseudorandom, you might wanna unlock USB booting while its fresh in your mind...20:38
pseudorandomdeper29: ok "the disk drive /tmp' was something but i didn't see the whole message20:39
pseudorandomit just started20:39
pseudorandomjoossee: actually when usb is attached i see that option. apparently i need to attach usb drive to see it20:39
deper29pseudorandom: 'dmesg | less'20:39
pseudorandomdeper29: just a sec20:39
deper29and you can go search for the message20:39
deper29:)20:39
joosseepseudorandom, !@#@#$@## of course you do!!20:40
Jordan_Uwolfy1339: Please pastebin the output of "efibootmgr".20:40
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pseudorandomdeper29: i will switch to that computer and use paste.ubuntu.com it will be faster :)20:40
wolfy1339Jordan_U, from where20:40
Jordan_Uwolfy1339: From Ubuntu.20:40
wolfy1339ok...20:40
deper29pseudorandom: in that case, 'dmesg | pastebinit' or whatever you use to pastebin stuff20:40
deper29I'm a wgetpaste kind of guy20:41
Jordan_Uwolfy1339: In fact, since you should should have one on hand in case things go wrong, do it from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB.20:41
pseudorandom_deldeper29: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407277/20:41
pseudorandom_deldeper29: i searched tmp string there but i couldn't find it20:42
wolfy1339Jordan_U, ok, i have live-usb20:42
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Jordan_Uwilee-nilee: You're not allowed to help people whose nicks start with the same letter as yours when I've just woken up. It confuses me ;)20:42
joosseecan anyone help me make the "dash home" menu open in under 5 seconds? plz plz plz20:43
deper29pseudorandom_del: I don't see anythnig bad in this dmesg20:43
deper29looks good20:43
wilee-nileeJordan_U, Hehe, I understand. ;)20:43
pseudorandom_deldeper: there was some /tmp partition message. perhaps i should restart the computer to see if that appears again20:43
deper29pseudorandom_del: do you have /tmp as a separate partition?20:43
geirhajoossee: Get a lightning fast harddrive20:44
joosseegeirha, uhm... RADI 5 over here... and now it open great using the vesa driver...20:44
pseudorandom_deldeper29: well i don't think so. i have such a folder though20:44
geirhajoossee: Ah, a trick question, I see20:44
joosseegeirha, ya BUT vesa no support dual screen so...20:45
joosseegeirha, its a catch 2220:45
pseudorandom_deldeper29: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407312/ here none of them is /tmp20:45
geirhajoossee: Yeah, the neverending problem with AMD and Nvidia not bothering to support their hardware on linux20:46
joosseegeirha, it gets better: no other DM works properly.. not xfce and not gnome :( :(20:46
pseudorandom_deldeper29: 1st is some boot partition, 2nd actually i don't know what exactly it is perhaps page file equivalent, 3rd my boot partition and 4th windows20:46
joosseegeirha, screw them im not playing vids.. is there a good video card maker for linux??20:46
ovrflw0xwhat's name for these dependencies in ubuntu? http://code.google.com/p/trizen/#Dependencies20:46
pseudorandom_deldeper29: i mean probably it is swap partition, without it it wouldn't work, right?20:47
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deper29pseudorandom_del: I didn't have a swap partition on one of my machines and it worked fine. You have 2 boot partitions?20:47
deper29I did'nt know you had separate partitions. We should have installed grub to the proper partition. Might explain why you had boot issues. fstab might not have been right20:48
pseudorandom_deldeper29: no i don't, why would I have ? if you mean Boot (*) on the last like, i don't know why20:48
pseudorandom_deldeper29: so last one is windows and 3rd one is ubuntu. 1st one is dell recovery and 2nd i have no idea what20:49
deper29geirha: didn't nvidia just release some new drivers the other day for Linux? 331 I think20:49
geirhajoossee: Haven't paid attention to graphics hardware in years; I just make sure to google the linux support of the graphics hardware before I buy20:49
pseudorandom_deldeper29: you think all is ok now, or there's still some problem? i can run boot info script to show you20:49
Aliekezhianyone had problem with unity pannel ?20:49
deper29pseudorandom_del: sounds like all is okay20:50
deper29You're booted and not having issues anyway :P20:50
gordonjcp!details | Aliekezhi20:50
ubottuAliekezhi: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."20:50
pseudorandom_deldeper29: thanks a lot for helping :)20:50
pseudorandom_deljoossee: and thans for the link, i didn't know i have to attach the usb drive :P (seriously)20:50
joosseegeirha, you know, i thought I'd done that.. :) This FireMV 2250 works well enuff.. just that one bug making me mental.20:50
geirhadeper29: Don't know. Probably for outdated cards20:51
joosseepseudorandom, np20:51
Aliekezhiwith unity and lastest ubuntu LTS, I have this problem : on start of session I can see a pannel to the left but then it dissapear....20:51
Aliekezhigordonjcp,20:51
deper29pseudorandom_del: no worries20:51
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Aliekezhiubottu, any idea ?20:52
ubottuAliekezhi: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:52
AliekezhiXD20:52
geirhajoossee: Have you found anything on your current issue on google? regarding that specific hardware20:52
AmtraskHello all. I am about to set up a media server at my home using some variant of Ubuntu... i'm wondering if there's any reason to pick Ubuntu server over Xubuntu [my preferred desktop distro]? What are the significant differences under the window manager?20:53
rekhi.... guess what Os i'm running20:53
deper29Amtrask: if you're making a server, why do you need a window manager?20:53
AmtraskPS/2?20:53
rekDos 6.22 lol20:53
Amtraskdeper29: it's also run videos on it20:53
saliakI've setup a vpn with pptpd and am able to connect to it with my iPhone.  Once i connect, I can ping my phone's ip address with a computer on my network.  The phone, however, doesn't see my iTunes shares, probably because multicast isn't forwarded from my local network to the vpn segment.  How does one accomplish this on a linux server?20:54
deper29Amtrask: no, I know, that's what a media server does. But why do you need a window manager?20:54
rekthe thing is...it's not multitasking at all psdppdppsds20:54
deper29are you using it as a server to store things on?20:54
joosseegeirha, the stuff i found was jighly conflicting? my first problem was just getting flgrx installed properly, and #ubuntu helped me with that...20:55
deper29or are you making htpc?20:55
joosseegeirha, then i had to sort the virtual desktop size from stuff related to the quad head version of this, the 240020:55
Amtraskdeper29 it'll just be network storage, essentially. But I do prefer using GUI where possible...20:55
Aliekezhiany idea how to fix the bug with unity's pannel (usually displayed on the left)20:55
joossee.. and #ubuntu had to help me get the symntax right :)20:55
hilarieHello! I can't open any internet browser at the moment, when I open firefox, I get the error ** (firefox:2695): ERROR **: Cannot find a safe socket path in '/tmp' among other things, I'd pastebin the whole thing but... I don't have a browser20:55
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joosseeso now it mostly works... 2 21' monitors running on DVI from an ancient video card i had to physically bend to fit into the PCIe slot... in a server .. but.. I DID IT MY WAAAAY lol20:56
Jordan_Uwolfy1339: Are you having trouble booting from the LiveUSB and running "efibootmgr"?20:56
Aliekezhiwhen I open an image with any program, with any DE (openbox, unity, gnome...), I always get the same bug : the session close....as If I did "logout"...Any idea ?20:57
geirhajoossee: So it could just be the resulting resolution is just too big for it?20:57
Aliekezhicurrently using lastest LTS20:57
joosseegeirha, 3200 x 1200?20:57
deper29Amtrask: ubuntu server doesnt' have a window manager I don't think20:57
joosseedeper29, i installed ubntu desktop20:57
joosseepacakage20:57
deper29if you are just using it for storage, you don't require a window manager. Just mount it on whatever will be using it20:58
joosseeunity is actuall pretty sweet on two monitors20:58
joosseedeper29, vm's20:58
deper29then use the window manager of whatever you'll be mounting on20:58
Aliekezhideper29, when I open an image with any program, with any DE (openbox, unity, gnome...), I always get the same bug : the session close....as If I did "logout"...Any idea ?20:58
joosseei have 28gb of ram.. not really an issue?20:59
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, You have any ppa's loaded?20:59
deper29joossee: I was referring to Amtrask :P20:59
geirhajoossee: the graphics cards won't have access to that ram20:59
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Amtraskdeper29 I get that... I guess what i'm really asking is "Is there a problem with configuring Xubuntu as a server?" is there some inherent insecurity? The machine will be physically located next to my TV anyway so there's no reason NOT to plug in the HDMI port... so long as I setup the firewall and lock down the server's exposure to the network20:59
joosseecan I bridge three wifi connections to the same netowkr into one superfast one?21:00
deper29Amtrask: no, should be fine21:00
joosseegeirha, tragically no... i might pickup a better card if I can find the riser.. pciex16 to x821:00
Amtraskdeper29 thanks!21:00
wolfy1339ok, ubuntu is gone but grub is still there21:01
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, I ask about ppa's really intrying to get the background leading to this problem, it seems not to have been from the install am I right?21:02
tim-cthi all... anyone having hassles wit arcobat and teamviewer  on 13.1021:02
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, you mean other repositories than main one ?21:04
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, Yes, and any background leading to this problem.21:05
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, Any other than ubuntu repos.21:05
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, well there is only the main repo enabled21:05
AliekezhiI mean the official21:05
Aliekezhicanonical21:05
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, You have other ubuntu repos in the sources.list you have them off?21:06
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, I see you are on the main server is that what you mean?21:07
ledtchello, i cant get my routing sorted out. Ubuntu server behind two routers, and ive set the default gateway to 192.168.5.1 but still no internet, the second router has internet cuz it can check for updates. And the ubuntu server can resolve name into ip21:07
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ only21:07
AlexPortableHi21:07
AlexPortableHow to repair grub?21:07
AlexPortableI get out of disk error21:07
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, with precise and precise-update21:07
AlexPortablegrub> 00000021:07
joosseeledtc, what port?21:08
wolfy1339how do i remove grub? i have removed all ubuntu partitions21:08
ledtcjoossee port ? those port should be opend right ?21:08
joosseeledah, sorry you are trying to connect to the ubuntu server thru the internet and it no workie?21:09
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, run this command and pastebin all the info  grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}21:09
ledtcnah im trying to ping google.se from my ubuntu server behind 2 routers, its just wont budge21:09
hydruidledtc: can you ping both routers you are behind?21:10
joosseeledtc, ok this isnt really a #ubuntu problem but i can try to help u21:10
joossee^^ hydruid21:10
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noize__Hello, I'm attempting to remove the grid from the login screen and after creating lightdm user, and running the cmd 'gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter draw-grid false' I get this error 'dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create directory '/run/user/1000/dconf': Permission denied.  dconf will not work properly.'21:10
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407427/21:10
hydruidledtc: assuming that the 1st router is your default gateway, does the far 2nd router have mgnt access so that you can ping to confirm your traffic is being routed to it?21:10
ledtccant ping second router21:10
hydruidledtc: what kind of network is setup between router A -> B, is it a /30?21:11
* airtonix would really love to have avahi on android21:11
zteamHi all!21:11
ledtcInternet -> Router ->   (Breake Point)   VM(router) -> VM(server)21:11
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, Can you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin all of that.21:12
hydruidledtc: i bet if you run a traceroute you'll see the traffic die after it hits the router that is your gateway.....sounds more like you have issues between routers not ubuntu21:12
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, very strange, in sources.list there are only 3 lines uncommented but the result of your command shows different things21:12
Ari-Yangcan 12.04 packages be installed on 12.10?21:12
hydruidAri-Yang: sure21:12
Calinouthey can, but it may sometimes not work21:12
Ari-Yanghydruid: there won't be any errors or anything?21:12
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, if I dist upgrade, I will stop being in LTS, right ?21:13
HaltingStatewhere is the development channel and security/kernel team channel?21:13
zteamSometimes then I boot Ubuntu 13.10 I just get a black screen (no login window) and I have to go to ta TTY and reboot my computer, Xorg doesn't seem to be running either21:13
Ari-Yangwhat about 13.04 packages on 12.10?21:13
w0otnesslooks like i have the same problem being discussed, Hash Sum Mismatch. Tried what most of google has found.21:13
hydruidAri-Yang: every package is different but the basic ones sure no problem......if you start talking about specific system libraries things can go bad21:13
Calinoudist-upgrade is not version upgrading, don't mix it21:13
bluetazmanianhas anyone had any issue with the graphic card after upgrade to 13.10?21:13
Ari-Yanghydruid: specifically packages that deal with mesa21:13
Calinounot here, bluetazmanian21:13
Calinouask your question directly! don't do polls21:13
zteamI'm using the Nvidida driver on a Geforece 8800 G21:13
PDilyardis there a way i can copy all the packages and settings from one ubuntu install to another?21:13
hydruidAri-Yang: will probably be fine but it's always good to do a system image / backup just to make sure :P21:14
bluetazmanianok, thanks21:14
hydruidPDilyard: are the machines the same model?21:14
Ari-Yanghydruid: kk, thanks... do you know if it's possible to add a 12.04 ppa to 12.10?21:14
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407452/21:15
zteamPDilyard, you can clone the entire / partition if you want to21:15
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, No that command is within the release.21:15
hydruidAri-Yang: that is a whole other situation, usually those are version specific21:15
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, nothing to update/upgrade21:15
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407452/21:15
hydruidAri-Yang: but it boils down to that every package is different21:15
zteamanybody has any clues, for my black-screen issues?21:15
Ari-Yanghydruid: right, so then I'll just d/l the .deb package contents21:15
hydruidAri-Yang: but usually if it's going to bork your system it will give you an error first21:16
PDilyardhydruid. zteam: they are not the same model...but all i want is basically an automatically compiled list of apt-get commands to run to install all the same packages21:16
hydruidPDilyard: could do a dpkg --list > packages on both machines and then diff the differences......21:17
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, should I post something to ubuntu bugzilla ? any idea what log I could check to see where this comes from ? could be linked with graphic drivers ?21:17
w0otnessapt-get update gives this: W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/au.archive.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch21:17
yeatsw0otness: try a different mirror?21:17
brontosaurusrexPDilyard, google for "dpkg --get-selections"21:17
PDilyardok21:17
zteamPDilyard, okey there is a tool called apt-clone avaiable in the repository, try that :-)21:18
PDilyardzteam: sweet21:18
ledtchydruid, that would be impossible as traceroute is a download package21:18
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, I was just making sure you have all the repos you should have and that they are open, it was hard to tell from your responses, you do have an extra the google one, however it should not be attached to this crashing. Can you give any background that leads to this crashing of all these desktops, it seems it was working at one time, am I right here?21:18
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, Graphic driver is a question for sure.21:19
hydruidledtc: lol good point.....well it all depends on your situation. if the ubuntu box is the only one that not working it might be an ubuntu issue, but it sounds like it's a router issue21:19
Grimm_hey , quick question about the installation of linux on my wife's pc. She has a asus EEE pc 1000 with 2gig of DDR2 ram , how much SWAP should i give it ?21:19
zteamPDilyard, :-)21:19
hydruidGrimm_: how big is the drive?21:20
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, well, I can't actually tell you since when this bug started.The bug can be reproduced by launching an image with any program (eye of gnome, gthumb...) with any DE (gnome, openbox or unity)21:20
Grimm_the hard drive is about 160gig , and 50 of that has a windows xp installed21:20
brontosaurusrexGrimm_, twice the ram is usual recommendation irc21:20
hydruidGrimm_: give it 2-4GB.....21:20
Grimm_alright great :) I was thinking for a moment 8 gig 'to play safe' , but that seemed like such a n00b move that i tought to come and ask :D21:21
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, Image being a jpg..etc?21:21
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, yes JPG21:21
Grimm_and mount point for linux should be ok on just ' / ' ?21:22
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, what about with the stock image viewer?21:22
wilee-nileeopr shotwell21:22
wilee-nileeor*21:22
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, is there a syntax to save the logs with an imagedisplayer ? like "eog blabla.jpg >> blabla.txt" or something like this ?21:23
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, what about with the stock image viewer or shotwell?21:23
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, hum, what is this ?21:23
AlexPortablehi ?21:23
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, Thaose are installed image viewers21:23
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, right click any image and choose those.21:24
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, shotwell create same issue21:24
Grimm_is it ok if the swap partition is Logical ?21:25
Jordan_UGrimm_: Yes.21:25
Grimm_the linux partition , i toke primary , ext4 , mount point /21:25
Jordan_UGrimm_: Any of your linux partitons can be logical.21:26
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, "[  4966.025] [mi] EQ overflow continuing.  100 events have been dropped." in my xorg.0.log Do you think it's linked ?21:26
Grimm_allright , i should actually just look up what it means ...21:26
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, I have to wonder if you have just installed some apps that are causing this conflict, just a guess though. I have the feeling you are a new user from your responses, and may have just borked the setup, rather then there being any actual bugs, or there is a graphic driver problem, kinda a issue of many possible varibles.21:26
Grimm_but so much to do and just 24 hours for the only version of me to do everything  :(21:26
Grimm_a day that is , luckely21:26
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, actually I'm a gentoo user, and this is not my computer.21:27
deper29Aliekezhi: +1 for Gentoo :D21:27
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, but I see a lot of different bugs there which is seem to appear since last update21:27
Aliekezhias every time I use an ubuntu....21:28
Aliekezhibut anyway it's not my computer and I must fix this21:28
deper29Aliekezhi: what is your issue?21:28
AliekezhiI'd like to have an idea of what log or what to check21:28
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, Ah, Ubuntu is different than gentoo as far as building the OS, could this have been a gentoo approach to ubuntu possibly?21:28
Grimm_hey guys , thanks again !21:28
Aliekezhideper29, session logout everytime I open an image with any program (tried with 3 of them) and any DE (tried also 3 of them)21:29
deper29Aliekezhi: you could try asking in #gentoo21:29
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, Anyway this is beyond my ability to really help you fix.21:29
deper29that seems strange :S21:30
wilee-nileedeper29, This is a ubuntu install.21:30
Aliekezhideper29, tried with eye of gnome, gthumb and shotwell, and gnome3, unity and openbox => always the same bug21:30
deper29wilee-nilee: ahh, I see21:30
Aliekezhideper29, well it seems it's more an ubuntu related problem....21:30
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, ok thx.I'll try to post details on ubuntu bugzilla21:30
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wilee-nileeAliekezhi, Probably the best option, best of luck on this. ;)21:31
Aliekezhiwilee-nilee, thx :)21:31
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zteamIs there any ppa avaiable which updates the Nvidia-driver?21:40
zteamfor Ubuntu 13.10?21:41
Ari-Yang!ppa nvidia21:44
Ari-Yang!package nvidia21:44
Ari-Yang!repository21:44
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.21:44
yeatszteam: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+packages might be what you're after21:44
yeats!ppa | zteam21:44
ubottuzteam: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge21:44
zteamyeats, thanks21:45
zteamI having issues with black-screen in Ubuntu 13.10, and I assume it to be related to the nvidia.driver21:46
Ari-Yangzteam: might be.... or 13.10 is just buggy21:46
Psil0Cybinhey guys i need some help so i have been having trouble with a new kernel i got via dist-upgrade and i posted the bug to launchpad.net and i gota response that said to try the mainline kernel build (as it states https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250298)21:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 1250298 in linux (Ubuntu) "blackscreen after boot after splash sceen" [Medium,Incomplete]21:46
Psil0Cybinwhich version would i need to download or is the person refering too21:46
Psil0Cybinmy launchpad post was the following : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/125029821:47
zteamAri-Yang, works pretty good for me except for this stupid bug, but this bug was present in Ubuntu 13.04 as well21:47
Ari-Yang!nomodset | Psil0Cybin21:47
Psil0Cybinsomeone suggest for me to " Please test the latest v3.12 kernel[0]"21:47
Psil0CybinI used nomodset it dod not work21:47
Psil0Cybinand isnt it nomodeset21:48
Psil0Cybin?21:48
auronandace!mainline | Psil0Cybin21:49
ubottuPsil0Cybin: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds21:49
duxbAnybody use phpmyadmin under 13.10?21:49
Psil0Cybinoh so all a mainline build would tell me is what is causing the problem? It woudl not be a more up to date fixed kernel?21:49
GameCodeTrainer[16:48:21] <Ari-Yang> zteam: are you using open source or proprietary?21:51
GameCodeTrainer[16:48:37] <Ari-Yang> go to software sources and go to the 'additional drivers' tab21:51
duxbIn phpmyadmin under 13.10, is it normal to now have little '!'s in little red circles next to all your database names on the left hand side?21:51
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Psil0Cybinhey guys is this the most up to date kernel21:53
Psil0Cybinhttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/current/21:53
Psil0Cybin? i am confused at what mainline kernel i am supposed to test21:53
duxbalso, it says that mcrypt extension is missing, but I checked, and it's installed21:53
reisioPsil0Cybin: doesn't really matter, does it? The point is to test kernels other than what you've got that presumably doesn't work21:54
Psil0Cybinreisio: well i have a bunch of kernels that work for me that are out of date what i am trying to do is have up to date kernel or have the most recent one i can have21:55
Ari-YangPsil0Cybin: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/21:55
yeats!mainline21:55
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds21:55
Ari-YangPsil0Cybin: with that ppa, you can download and install kernels21:55
Psil0Cybinso i am just confused about version numbers because it says i have kernel 3.2.0.55 but im supposed to try out 3.12?21:55
yeatsah, I see auronandace already shared that ;-)21:55
Ari-YangPsil0Cybin: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-trusty/21:56
Psil0Cybinyea thats the one he linked me to try out21:56
Psil0Cybinis that a recent one? why would the version number be lower then the one i have now21:56
yeatsPsil0Cybin: 3.12 > 3.221:56
Ari-YangPsil0Cybin: click the dang link I just linked you21:56
reisioPsil0Cybin: I knows21:56
Ari-Yangif you're on a 64bit download the headers amd64, the headers all, and the image amd6421:56
Ari-Yang^ Psil0Cybin21:57
Ari-Yangthen put it all into a folder, open terminal, cd into the folder and run sudo dpkg -i *.deb21:57
Psil0Cybinkk im on 32bit so i will get the 32bit one for intel21:57
Psil0Cybinthank you Ari-Yang.21:57
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Ari-YangPsil0Cybin: yes, get the headers i386, the headers all, and the image i38621:57
Psil0CybinI was just confused because the version number was 3.12 and i had 3.221:57
Ari-Yanggood luck21:57
Psil0Cybinthank you and im guessing if all else fails i can always fall back to my current working kernel?21:57
Psil0Cybincorrect?21:57
Ari-YangPsil0Cybin: yes, just boot into it using GRUB21:58
Ari-Yang(hold shift key on boot)21:58
Psil0Cybinperfect. thank you Ari-Yang sorry for being so slow at learning!21:58
Psil0Cybinit was just the version numbers that threw me off21:58
Psil0Cybini thought i was going back in time!21:58
Ari-YangPsil0Cybin: no worries, good luck21:58
fobohello i got a problem ... i deaktived networkmanager and do a reboot but if i type in terminal sudo modprobe -r rt2x00sta is the module in use??? anybody can help?22:00
mmhundoes anyone have any suggestions about what ftp server to run?22:02
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reisiommhun: sshd22:07
mmhunreisio: not if I actually want to host files...22:07
reisiommhun: you don't care about transfer security?22:08
mmhunsftp22:08
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* Ritchie__ ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.9.6 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz (3.00 GHz) ** RAM: 8160 MB Total (3995 MB Free) ** VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 ** Uptime: 27.83 Hours **22:09
HarmageddonHi! I was here a few days ago to solve a graphics error during ubuntu installation (worked with the "nomodeset" option). This worked fine for the installation and first start, but now, when I start Ubuntu, a window shows during boot, saying "The system is running in low-graphics mode."22:10
Harmageddon"Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself"22:11
rndmis there a concise guide to removing the myriad of ads in unity22:11
rndm13.1022:11
aarobc_wrkHi guys. So I actually really like unity and I want to keep using it. I've heard there are these window managers called tiling window managers that make it so working with a lot of windows on a screen is much more streamlined. Is there some way to get something like that to play nice with ubuntu?22:11
shrimpyHi aarobc_wrk, yes there is, but it's not very easy22:12
shrimpySounds like you want to keep using Unity but have it use a tiling WM?22:12
aarobc_wrkI started writing something that would do that using wmctrl, but I'm realizing it's a lot bigger undertaking so I was curious if there was something already written22:12
Harmageddonwhen I select "run in low-graphics mode for just one session", there's a new window telling me to wait one minute while the screen restarts. When I press ok in this window, I'm back to the ubuntu boot screen, the red dots are going on and on, but I'm not getting any further.22:13
Ari-Yangaarobc_wrk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager#List_of_tiling_window_managers_for_X22:13
aarobc_wrkAri-Yang: thanks, will check it out22:13
seiskuey22:15
shrimpyaarobc_wrk, if you are using 12.04, you can use the Unity panel with the WM of your choice.22:15
Psil0CybinAir-Yang:22:15
Psil0Cybini have a problem22:15
shrimpy(Unity2d panel, I should say)22:16
seiskuoh no22:16
aarobc_wrkshrimpy: using 13.10 because I like the better multi-monitor support22:16
Psil0Cybinhttp://pastebin.com/nE5xGHee22:16
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shrimpyaarobc_wrk, then Im afraid I dont know of any way to use the Unity panel at the same time as a tiling wm.22:17
aarobc_wrkshrimpy: in that case I will write my own22:18
shrimpyaarobc_wrk, oh, there are plenty of good panels to choose from. I just thought you said you wanted to continue using Unity.22:18
aarobc_wrkshrimpy: yeah, I just wanted something that will play nice with unity22:19
shrimpyOkay. Well my personal recommendation for tiling wm is dwm from suckless.22:21
shrimpyespecially if you have any C programming experience22:21
UrielVigilantI had a folder called GNUstep and i deleted it . Could it make it Ubuntu 13.10 unstable ?22:21
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william1When I run update-grub it changes the root in the menu entry to a UUID.  I would like this to be /dev/xvda and not change when I do a dist-upgrade.22:23
Psil0CybinHey guys22:24
Psil0Cybini installed the new kernel upgrade22:24
Psil0Cybinwith the header and im getting this22:24
Psil0Cybinafter i installed the headers http://pastebin.com/wDhkxQGF22:24
Ari-YangPsil0Cybin: you aren't opening the .deb packages one by one are you? you're installing them right after each other with sudo dpkg *.deb22:25
Psil0CybinAir-Yang, reisio, yeats: ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.12.0-031200-generic is not supported22:25
Psil0CybinError! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.12.0-031200-generic (i686)22:25
Psil0CybinConsult /var/lib/dkms/cedarview-drm/20120717/build/make.log for more information.22:25
Ari-Yangdid you open it?22:25
Ari-Yangand pastebin it...22:25
Ari-Yangdid you use dkms to install a module or something?22:25
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Junkashould i go for 64 or 32 bit22:28
RoryJunka: Generally if your computer is 64-bit you should install 64-bit, especially if you have 4GiB of RAM or more22:28
Ari-YangJunka: uhhh... whatever system you have, you should install the appropriate OS...22:28
JunkaI got only 2Gb of ram22:29
reisioJunka: irrelevant22:29
reisioJunka: 64 bit proc, 64 bit OS22:29
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JunkaI sometimes feel like my system hangs, possibly because it swaps? I do not know22:30
shrimpyJunka: this might help: http://linuxforcynics.com/how-to/which-architecture22:31
reisiowhen dealing with finite resources, you're always going to run out22:31
reisioshrimpy: Junka: ignore that link, it's crap22:32
JunkaIt does not help me22:32
reisiono it doesn't22:33
shrimpyresisio, Junka, maybe I misunderstood your question22:33
reisioshrimpy: well he wants help with "hanging" now22:33
reisiobut finding some random blogger's explanation of his original 64 vs 32 bit questions doesn't mean you understand it22:33
reisioquestion*22:33
shrimpyreisio. Oh, I was still on the 64 vs 32 bit question.22:34
reisioI knowses :)22:34
shrimpylol, goodluck with the "hanging"22:34
Junkait is sort of freezing22:34
Junkaor something22:34
reisioperhaps you've...22:34
reisioopened a website using Flash :p22:34
Junkayeah and firefox is quite heavy22:35
Junkalots of ram22:35
william1Speaking of flash, anyone check out pipelight?  Been using it to watch NetFlix and Comcast videos.22:35
Junka64 bit should be faster though not slower22:36
reisiommhmmm22:36
reisiomakes netflix happen :)22:36
swcdxwhat22:36
reisioJunka: it's not to do with your arch22:36
swcdxnetflix on ubuntu22:36
swcdxwhat22:36
william1swcdx: well I am using Debian, but yes NetFlix on Linux with pipelight22:36
reisioTheycallmejzero: sup jzero22:37
william1It runs silverlight in wine and pipes the video to your native Linux browser.22:37
swcdxi am assuming it will work with ubuntu?22:37
reisioit works with anything22:37
reisiouses Wine22:37
william1swcdx: works with everything even Gentoo.22:37
william1It is better than the netflix-desktop as it uses your Linux browser not like before for it used the wine browser.22:37
swcdxgreat i am putting my daughter back on ubuntu22:38
MoleManIs it possible to add a static route for everything above/between 192.168.0.50 - 192.168.0.255 ? or is it not possible as it's not a proper subnet or whatever?22:38
william1I get ever slight jutter and I am using an atom processor.22:38
Junkareisio so should i go with 64bit after all?22:38
reisioswcdx: heheh, exactly22:38
reisioJunka: if your proc is 64-bit, yes22:38
Junkaok thanks22:39
william1There really is no 32 bit vs 64 bit anymore.  The only problem with 64 bit YEARS ago was driver support.22:39
reisioI don't recall there ever being a problem :p22:39
* MoleMan does22:39
reisioespecially not compared to other OSes22:39
MoleManalthough less so with linux, more windows22:40
reisioGNU/Linux was out in front22:40
reisioas ever22:40
william1Also the guys at pipelight are even making a plugin for shockwave:)22:42
Aliekezhiis 3.8 kernel considered as unstable on ubuntu ? with ubuntu precise LTS I have 3.2 kernel by default22:42
Junkamate desktop is lighter than xfce?22:43
Nothing_Muchxfce is lighter22:43
Nothing_Muchmate is outdated22:43
zerowaitstateAliekezhi: I am using 13.10 and my kernel version (stable) is 3.1122:43
Nothing_MuchJunka:22:43
shwaiilHi22:43
Aliekezhizerowaitstate, how to display what ubuntu version I'm currently using ?22:44
zerowaitstateprecise is 12.0422:44
RoryAliekezhi: run the command "cat /etc/issue"22:44
shwaiilQ: I'm on 12.04 LTS and I'd like to upgrade PHP. Currently using 5.3.10 and I'd like at least 5.3.27! Is apt-get update and apt-get upgrade the way to do it ? Should I backup my php.ini ? Thanks for looking!22:45
estudianteFranco Dominguez22:45
Aliekezhizerowaitstate, 3.8 is in the list but not installed by default22:45
pirretAliekezhi: lsb_release -a22:45
AliekezhiRory, thx for the tip22:45
william1shwaiil: the php package that Ubuntu has should have all the security fixes in the latest 5.3.X...22:46
AliekezhiRory, pirret, zerowaitstate : I have a srange bug maybe one of you could have an idea : if I open an image with any image viewer and any DE, the session logs out...but if I open an image with the command "display" the bug doesn't produce.Any idea what this could be linked with ?22:46
zerowaitstatesounds like your X.org is segfaulting22:47
Aliekezhizerowaitstate, [  4966.025] [mi] EQ overflow continuing.  100 events have been dropped.22:48
Aliekezhiand others in xorg.0.log22:48
AliekezhiI can paste my whole xorg.0.log22:48
zerowaitstatepaste to paste.ubuntu.com22:48
zerowaitstateit's probably a driver issue22:49
Aliekezhizerowaitstate, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407894/22:51
lonewulf85My conky app says that i do not have swap in ubuntu 12.0422:51
Aliekezhizerowaitstate, oh sorry looks like it didn't take all the lines22:51
zerowaitstatedump the end of the file22:52
Aliekezhiwhat program I could use to paste ? it seems wgetpaste is not on ubuntu default repos22:52
trismAliekezhi: pastebinit22:52
buuAliekezhi: apt-cache search paste22:52
shwaiilwilliam1, thanks for looking! I've done a penetration test on my server and it claims 5.3.10 should be upgraded to at least 5.3.2722:53
shwaiilI tried apt-get update, install or upgrade and I still have 5.3.1022:54
william1shwaiil: it may not understand how a backport works from an upstream source.22:54
shwaiilwilliam1, sorry you lost me. You mean the version 5.3.10 on 12.04 LTS have fixed the vulnerabilities ?22:55
Aliekezhizerowaitstate, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407909/22:55
william1shwaiil: It should.  It will keep it's stable number like 5.3.10 and backport just the security fixes from the 5.3 branch of php.  Let me see if I can find you something that shows you that.22:56
Aliekezhi"[  4965.605] [mi] EQ overflowing.  Additional events will be discarded until existing events are processed." and all the lines under seems to be related to my problem22:57
Aliekezhiand backtrace...22:57
shwaiilwilliam1, thanks a lot for your support! By the way, how can I have a look on what versions of software I can get from my Ubuntu version choice ? Not sure if this is the PPA people talk about22:57
Aliekezhilooks like kernel/xorg crash22:57
william1shwaiil: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/p/php5/php5_5.3.10-1ubuntu3.8/changelog22:58
zerowaitstatethe kernel didn't crash, Xorg did22:58
zerowaitstateotherwise your system would have hung22:59
shwaiilwilliam1, thanks a lot! So, my penetration test asked me to upgrade to 5.3.27, in my case I did apt-get update and that's enought right ?22:59
william1shwaiil: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade23:00
shwaiilwilliam1, should I care about backing up my configuration files ? such as apache, php, mysql23:00
zerowaitstateAliekezhi: what does lspci show?23:00
shwaiilor it's safe to run those commands without having to ? I know ubuntu, or apparently warns me about conflicts23:01
william1shwaiil: it is safer than not sticking with the native packages.  Upstream sometimes changes more than they should within a branch which is why Ubuntu and other major distros backport just real fixes.23:01
shwaiilwilliam1, thanks so much for your help;)23:02
Aliekezhizerowaitstate, lspci : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407935/23:02
Aliekezhizerowaitstate, currently using kernel 3.223:02
william1you're welcome shwaiil23:02
utahconI've got an Ubuntu 12.04LTS server that apt-get install apache2 says it installs but I get no /etc/apache2 directory created23:05
Aliekezhizerowaitstate, seems really similar to my bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/121039723:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 1210397 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Xorg hang: (EE) [mi] EQ overflowing. Additional events will be discarded until existing events are processed." [Undecided,Confirmed]23:05
Aliekezhi:D23:06
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zerowaitstateAliekezhi, you're right, it does look very similar.23:07
zerowaitstatebacktrace matches23:07
zerowaitstateyou gonna try the fix mentioned?23:10
lonewulf85brightness does not go down when I tell it to ubuntu12.0423:10
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Aliekezhizerowaitstate, I'm going to try first a newer kernel.does linux-image is enough or should I need some headers or other packages ?23:14
zerowaitstateI would grab the headers, and build-essential23:16
coyotecoyote23:19
Anonynimityhow would I download lib32ncurses5 in ubuntu 13.10?23:21
AnonynimityI need that, ia32-libs lib32z-dev, lib32readline-gplv2-dev lib32readline5, lib32readline6 and lib32bz2-dev on 13.1023:22
keyhi there23:27
LabanHello23:32
LabanIn Unity, how can I remove certain pictures or recent documents from the scope/lens/unity-menu?23:32
xstefenpr0n?23:32
LabanExactly.23:33
LabanWhat else? :)23:33
xstefen:D I have the same issue lol23:33
IdleOneI am not certain about this but I believe that if you put your files/media in hidden directories by add a . (dot) to the start of the directory name, they won't be shown in the scopes23:34
xstefenI seem to remember reading that somewhere also23:34
LabanYeah but that's a hassle23:35
LabanWho hides their porn anyways?23:35
jmgkheh23:35
AceBlade258where should i do for help with a RAID23:35
AceBlade258*go23:35
LabanIn an MMORPG Guild! :D23:35
LabanNaah... Whatcha' need?23:36
wilee-nileeLaban, go to privacy and turn off and clear the history.23:36
IdleOneLaban: you just asked how to. Also please be helpful and lets try and keep this channel family friendly.23:36
LabanThanks. And yes, I'll behave. Sorry.23:36
AceBlade258I have an RAID 5 array that dropped a disk for some reason23:37
xstefenFamily friendly... Miley Cyrus is worse than pr0n :\23:37
xstefenJk, g'day sirs23:37
AceBlade258and I can't get it to add23:37
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AnonynimityLaban - Create a new user account dedicated to that specific activity.23:40
Anonynimitythen clear your unity lens history23:41
AceBlade258http://pastebin.com/f4sjYHxD - output from mdadm -M for each device23:41
Anonynimitygo to system settings > privacy, and clean what you need23:41
LabanThat's creative. :) What wilee-nilee suggested worked fine. Also found the folders not to record activity from which is good.23:42
Anonynimityto keep recent files turn off Record Activity23:42
Anonynimityfrom appearing***23:42
Anonynimitythen click Delete History23:42
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Aliekezhiis precise the lastest LTS version ?23:43
Anonynimityhow would I download lib32ncurses5 in ubuntu 13.10?23:43
AnonynimityI need that, ia32-libs lib32z-dev, lib32readline-gplv2-dev lib32readline5, lib32readline6 and lib32bz2-dev on 13.1023:43
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bekksAliekezhi: Yes.23:43
Aliekezhi:(23:44
AceBlade258http://pastebin.com/UH6AmhQg - output from mdadm --details23:44
AnonynimityI believe it is Aliekezhi23:45
LabanSo the system finds the hdd... but just won't attach it to the array?23:45
AliekezhiAnonynimity,  ???23:46
AnonynimityI believe 12.04 is the newest LTS so far23:46
AnonynimityI know 13.04 is a STL, as is 13.1023:46
LabanAceBlade258: sdg seems to think that it is attached (or so I would interpret the array state at least)23:46
AceBlade258it's there23:46
AliekezhiAnonynimity, well the bug report automatic message told me stopped being under devlopement23:47
AceBlade258i can hit it with a dd test23:47
AceBlade258it just won't add it...23:47
Anonynimityyes, 13.10 is no longer under dev, but it is still an STL23:47
wilee-nileeLaban, I use the shell rather than unity, but that privacy history is the first thing I turn off none the less, it keeps the dash from having just stuff not needed in general by me.23:47
Anonynimityuntil April (I think)23:47
AliekezhiAnonynimity, so I can upgrade to a more recent LTS ? I'm using 12.0423:47
AnonynimityI dont think there are any more current LTS' right now23:48
wilee-nileeAliekezhi, next lts is 14.04 about 5 months from release.23:48
bekksAliekezhi: In April 2014, you can. Until then, you cant.23:48
AliekezhiAnonynimity, 13.10 is LTS ? I'm using 12.04 and full of bugs, should I upgrade to 13.10 ?23:49
agorano 13.10 is not lts23:49
Anonynimityno 13.10 is a S.T.L23:49
Aliekezhiif I post bug reports for LTS, will it be usefull ?23:49
AnonynimityS.T.S** - Short Term23:49
bekksAliekezhi: Sure.23:49
agorayep23:49
Aliekezhimemory got full and start swapping then xorg crash...can it be linked ?23:50
AnonynimityYes, it can.23:50
bekksAliekezhi: Then you are exhausting your RAM - and you need more RAM.23:51
AnonynimityI'm trying to follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=227469223:51
Aliekezhibekks, the strange thing is that there was not more RAM than this since several years and it didn't crash....23:51
AnonynimityI am running ubuntu 13.10, but I cannot find some of the following packages: git-core gnupg flex bison gperf build-essential zip curl zlib1g-dev zlib1g-dev:i386 libc6-dev lib32ncurses5-dev ia32-libs x11proto-core-dev libx11-dev:i386 libreadline6-dev:i386 lib32z-dev libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-dev g++-multilib mingw32 tofrodos python-markdown libxml2-utils xsltproc readline-common libreadline6-dev libreadline6 lib32readline-gplv2-dev libncurses23:51
Anonynimity5-dev lib32readline5 lib32readline6 libreadline-dev libreadline6-dev:i386 libreadline6:i386 bzip2 libbz2-dev libbz2-1.0 libghc-bzlib-dev lib32bz2-dev libsdl1.2-dev libesd0-dev squashfs-tools pngcrush schedtool libwxgtk2.8-dev python23:51
FloodBot1Anonynimity: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:51
Anonynimitycan anyone help me with this issue, please?23:51
Rhomberhey guys, what is the best recommended USB sound card for SPDIF/optical?23:52
agoraanonynimity none of them are in the repos?23:52
RhomberI have had probs with the sound blaster extigy and don't want to make a mistake getting a dud again :(23:52
bekksAliekezhi: Then investiagte whats going on on your system.23:52
AliekezhiRhomber, there are a lot of USB sound cards with SPDIF....23:52
bekksAliekezhi: investigate even.23:53
AnonynimityI know for a fact that lib32ncurses5 and "" - dev; lib32ncurses6 and --dev ; ia32-libs, arent23:53
RhomberAliekezi: yeah, and a lot don't work with Ubuntu / pulseaudio23:53
RhomberSoundBlaster Extigy for example is detected fine, but doesn't work23:53
agoraanonynimity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package23:54
Aliekezhibekks, my investigation stops there (switching from 3.2 to 3.11 kernel didn't solve) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407909/23:54
Rhomberi just figured there has to be a card that is supported.. lots of small devices with no decent sound (Odroid / Raspberry Pi)23:54
Aliekezhibekks, I only see xorg crashing when I open images files but no idea why23:54
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agoraanonynimity: also this is in the repo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/lib32ncurses523:55
Anonynimitythank you agora23:55
agoraanonynimity yw23:55
newbieUbuntu 13.10 64 bit.  I can no longer empty trash and bleachbit clogs the system for a full system stop.  What to do?  Also ClamAv doesn't seem to want to work23:55
Anonynimitybut agora - I'm on a 32 bit system -- i386 arch... all I see in that repo is amd64 arch23:56
bekksAliekezhi: That log has nothing to do with investigating why your computer starts to swap :) free -m; iotop; ps aux; will help you to investigate that. And setting the kernel options vm.swappiness=10 and vm.oom_kill_allocating_task=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf will help even more.23:56
bekksAliekezhi: And the backtrace part in the log (after the last line of the paste) would be the interesting part of the log, along with dmesg23:57
agoraanonynimity did you try package-name:i38623:58
Anonynimityyes, still says "unable to locate package lib32ncurses523:59

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