[00:00] <topper4125> all settings, and all the "good stuff" is for the most part stored in /home... so If you have /home on a seperate partition, if anything happens to the OS, your data is safe... always a good idea to have them seperate (and frequent backups...) I don't see anyway of saving anything there... hopefully someone else does...
[00:00] <asjjohnson> what's up dudes. something really weird just happened  I'm using ubuntu 12.04 (cinnamon DE) and chrome has went full screen  i can't exit without using killall
[00:00] <np8> asjjohnson: Try F11?
[00:01] <asjjohnson> @np8 yeah it jas no effect
[00:01] <np8> asjjohnson: ok
[00:02] <np8> topper4125: No it is not on separate partition, but I will guarantee doing that next time. Thanks for the help anyways.
[00:02] <prasselpikachu> bye all, thanks to minimec, he helped me a lot!
[00:02] <np8> Maybe ill just do a fresh install from live-cd
[00:02] <asjjohnson> crap. whats the cmd to restart x? i cant remember
[00:02] <Shirakawasuna> tripelb: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[00:02] <minimec> prasselpikachu: no problem.
[00:02] <minimec> prasselpikachu: n8
[00:02] <topper4125> I think that's your best bet np8, sorry to hear about the errors :(
[00:02] <prasselpikachu> n8
[00:03] <topper4125> asjjohnson, does alt-f4 close the window (not exactly a solution, but at least your not having to send a kill cmd
[00:03] <asjjohnson> just a sec
[00:03] <np8> topper4125: By the way, do you know, that how can you see if a program is not going to continue executing anymore, after it has "gone gray" ?
[00:03] <Shirakawasuna> tripelb: I ask because there are several bug reports / issues with similar errors that were resolved by updating either ubuntu entirely or v4l2loopback specifically
[00:03] <asjjohnson> nada
[00:03] <prophit> I was apt-get installing ubuntu-desktop when my drive ran out of space. How can I apt-get remove whichever pieces of ubuntu-desktop got installed already? I tried 'sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop' but I get an error "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.". When I run dpkg --configure -a, it just tries to continue installing the desktop.
[00:03] <Shirakawasuna> tripelb: also installing guvcview
[00:04] <topper4125> No i don't np8
[00:04] <k1l_> asjjohnson: sudo service lightdm restart
[00:04] <np8> topper4125: My ubuntu 13.10 upgrade did turn gray (after 20% or so), and i checked from the system manager, that nothing "happens" there, and decided to reboot. I was not a good idea then.
[00:04] <cpined> apofis: any idea's?
[00:04] <asjjohnson> is lightdm cinnamon? that's the de im using
[00:05] <Shirakawasuna> prophit: the safest thing to do is to free up space, then install ubuntu-desktop, then autoremove or purge it.
[00:05] <topper4125> Guess it wasn't...
[00:05] <Shirakawasuna> prophit: If that's totally unacceptable, you can force remove packages with dpkg. This is fairly risky so I recommend the first option.
[00:06] <Shirakawasuna> prophit: You can get a list of what you recently installed by checking /var/log/apt/history.log
[00:06] <k1l_> asjjohnson: lightdm is the standard dm for ubuntu. the dm starts the x-server for you and manages the desktops (its the loginscreen basically)
[00:06] <asjjohnson> facepalm
[00:06] <topper4125> Would the purge command help prophit? (Asking anyone else, cuz I'm just guessing in the dark)
[00:09] <lesocratic> Hello
[00:10] <basichash> How can I restart the audio software?
[00:10] <lesocratic> I want translate Ubuntu in fon language. How can I do it ?
[00:10] <asjjohnson> @k1I_ that restarted my system but its hanging on the ubuntu logo
[00:10] <topper4125> !translate | lesocratic
[00:10] <asjjohnson> wtf
[00:11] <JordanJ21> Hello, I have a Secure Boot EUFI enabled PC do I have to do anything to install ubuntu?
[00:11] <basichash> I killed a python process and now my audio isn't working
[00:11] <prophit> Shirakawasuna: I've done some cleaning and am trying to let dpkg --configure -a fix apt-get first. I doubt I've been able to make enough room. What's the dpkg command to force remove ubuntu-desktop?
[00:11] <topper4125> !uefi
[00:11] <asjjohnson> im just gonna turn it off and on again lol
[00:12] <basichash> any ideas?
[00:12] <lesocratic> ubottu: I don't have the fon language in this list.
[00:12] <JordanJ21> topper4125: I've been reading that but in that it says "Create a LiveDVD or LiveUSB of Ubuntu (>=12.04.2) 64bit. " I want 13.10
[00:13] <Shirakawasuna> prophit: the purge and force-all flags. Read the man page so you know what they do. I'm not recommending that you do this until you've tried freeing up space and installing ubuntu-desktop. Is this an embedded system or micro vps or something?
[00:13] <zykotick9> JordanJ21: >= means, greater or equal to.  13.10 is > then 12.04 - so you're good
[00:14] <prophit> Shirakawasuna: yes, it's a beaglebone black
[00:14] <Shirakawasuna> ah
[00:14] <JordanJ21> I'm in the liveUSB now zykotick9 with no problems. Will that mean i'm ok?
[00:14] <lesocratic> ubottu: How can I add unexisting language ?
[00:14] <zykotick9> JordanJ21: i'm not sure what your doing actually... i was just commenting on the >=12.04.2 part ;)  best of luck.
[00:15] <lesocratic> ubottu: ;)
[00:15] <JordanJ21> Aww
[00:15] <apofis> cpined: I assumed you dont have muted sound ? (just wanna be sure ;) )
[00:15] <wolfy1339> ubuntu isn't detecting my wifi adapter, Marvell 88W8797 (Avastar 350N). it worked before, but it just stopped working one day and i cou;dn't seem to get it to work
[00:15] <JordanJ21> I'm trying to install Ubuntu with eufi and secure boot enabled (dual boot with win8)
[00:16]  * topper4125 hasn't used M$ since XP
[00:16] <topper4125> <--- doesn't even have wine installed
[00:16] <cpined> apofis: I"M ALL RED IN THE FACE....is mute on by default?  cuz I clicked on the mute button and now I have glorious sound.
[00:16] <zykotick9> topper4125: fyi, you might want to see "/msg ubottu m$" for future... ;)
[00:17] <topper4125> Wow.. never knew that... I'll keep that in mind zykotick9
[00:17] <buck_> hey guys I have a nexus 7 woot. what 2 files do I need for dual boot bootloader
[00:20] <buck_> hello?
[00:20] <wolfy1339> ubuntu isn't detecting my wifi adapter, Marvell 88W8797 (Avastar 350N). it worked before, but it just stopped working one day and i coudn't seem to get it to work....
[00:20] <d_nuke> broken adaptor?
[00:21] <minimec> buck_: We read you, but probably #ubuntu-touch is the better #channel for this...
[00:21] <topper4125> buck try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation (also a couple youtube vids showing step by step
[00:21] <buck_> oh thanks.
[00:21] <buck_> can I update it, as there is a version already in
[00:22] <buck_> #ubuntu-touch
[00:22] <minimec> buck_: /join #ubuntu-touch
[00:22] <wolfy1339> d_nuke, no... it works on windows.. and if i try to install the driver with "Windows Wireless Drivers", it says adapter present...
[00:23] <topper4125> buck: from what I'm reading, it is recommending you use 12.04, but 13.04 is avail.
[00:23] <apofis> wolfy1339:  are we talkign about PC box ? what version of Ubuntu do u use ?
[00:24] <wolfy1339> apofis, ubuntu 13.10, and yes it's MS Product
[00:24] <pirret> hi, when i install ubuntu (server) i get this list from where i can choose what to install, like sshd or lamp and so on, is there any way to run this selection screen manually after installation is done?
[00:24] <apofis> wolfy1339:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1165938
[00:26] <wolfy1339> yes, that.. i had found a fix for it but that fix failed
[00:26]  * topper4125 wonders if 10 people send a command to ubottu and she replied to all of them... if floodbot would freak out?
[00:27] <apofis> wolfy1339:  ndiswrapper should be a right solution here
[00:27] <apofis> wolfy1339:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/257600/marvells-wireless-driver-not-recognized
[00:27] <wolfy1339> i don't have wifi on ubuntu....
[00:27] <tripelb> Shirakawasuna, Hi. back. I copied what you said so I can refer to it. I am running 12.04 on a 2002 dell. Interesting. I have had ubuntu get an internal error and ask me to restart maybe 4 times, not daily even. I had never had ubuntu do that, in years. But I ahve been having updates almost daily this week.
[00:27] <apofis> wolfy1339:  if it wont work try to not buy MS' products in a future ;)
[00:28] <Shirakawasuna> tripelb: I've never encountered an 'internal error' in ubuntu.
[00:29] <Shirakawasuna> tripelb: I would start checking your hardware. Run SMART tools for your hard drive and do a memtest
[00:30] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys if the newest kernel is not working for me, is it fine to use an outdated kernel by a version?
[00:30] <Psil0Cybin> what can i do to attempt to fix graphical problems within a kernel
[00:31] <Shirakawasuna> Psil0Cybin: yes that's fine
[00:31] <JordanJ21> Will I have any problems?
[00:31] <topper4125> Psil0Cybin, Its fine to use an older kernal if needed...
[00:32] <Shirakawasuna> Psil0Cybin: make sure to keep the older version's package installed
[00:32] <Psil0Cybin> like displaying a black screen after updating kernels, i have tried everything offered online and on the forums but i cannot get into it, so im stuck using an outdated kernel
[00:32] <Shirakawasuna> Psil0Cybin: Otherwise autoremove or purge will remove it eventually
[00:32] <Psil0Cybin> okay but is it safe to use an outdated kernel also if u use it does that mean no kernel from now on will work?
[00:33] <apofis> be back later
[00:33] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: New security issues arent fixed in your version.
[00:34] <Psil0Cybin> okay but if the newest kernel does not work does that mean that other updates will cause the same problem?
[00:34] <JordanJ21> Will I have any problems installing ubuntu 13.10 with secure boot and eufi enabled?
[00:34] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: No.
[00:35] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: They might, they might not.
[00:36] <Lexzuz> whatsup everyone
[00:36] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: so i can assume if this kernel is not working i can sit this one out typeand other kernel updates
[00:36] <Psil0Cybin> would work?
[00:36] <JordanJ21> Anyone?
[00:36] <Psil0Cybin> or if this kernel is not working no other kernel upgrades will work
[00:36] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: No. I said: "they might work, they might not."
[00:37] <bekks> JordanJ21: Secure boot will not allow you to boot anything else but the OS currently in use - Windows.
[00:37] <Psil0Cybin> Oh bekks so what can i do to insure that i can diagnose and fix these issues, for later kernel releases
[00:38] <Psil0Cybin> or do i just stick to a kernel that works for me?
[00:38] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Find out what exactly is causing your issue - or stick with the version you are on.
[00:38] <topper4125> Psil0Cybin, no one can guarentee what will and will not work in a kernal release... maybe everything will work next time, or maybe the screen issue will be fixed but bluetooth will be wonky... untill they are released... who knows... so the answer of "maybe, maybe not" is the best and most correct answer available.
[00:39] <JordanJ21> bekks: Will I have a problem if I switch eufi to legacy?
[00:39] <bekks> JordanJ21: Thats depends on the current setup.
[00:39] <cpined> hello, any reason why Parole has issues playing back DVD's?
[00:39] <JordanJ21> I have windows 8 installed
[00:40] <bekks> JordanJ21: Yes, I know. Still, no one can tell you "yes/no" to that last question.
[00:40] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: my graphic is causing the issue, after the grub menu and the xubuntu splash screen i get a blackscreen and it only goes away after restarting 5 - 10 times, and hoping that one time it works
[00:40] <JordanJ21> What can I do to make Ubuntu work?
[00:40] <Psil0Cybin> so i am stuck restarting over and over again or using an outdated kernel in order to get my GUI working
[00:41] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: "my graphic" is very, very generic.
[00:41] <Psil0Cybin> it says no screens found in Xorg.0
[00:41] <Psil0Cybin> says it cannot find a driver
[00:41] <Psil0Cybin> and goes to a blackscreen or a text terminal
[00:41] <Shirakawasuna> Psil0Cybin: Use an older kernel
[00:41] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: "it" isnt much more detailed as "my graphic".
[00:41] <Shirakawasuna> Psil0Cybin: Or try a newer one
[00:41] <topoyiyo> hi
[00:41] <minimec> cpined: Is libdvdcss installed? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[00:41] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Did you use the nomodeset kernel option?
[00:42] <Psil0Cybin> yes the nomodeset kernal option worked until i made it perminant then it did not work
[00:42] <Psil0Cybin> so someone tried to do vesafb.nonsense=1 and that too did not fix anything.. it was still a chance game
[00:42] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: So you did something wrong when making it permanent.
[00:42] <topper4125> Psil0Cybin, any chance its this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=965547
[00:43] <JordanJ21> bekks: To clarify I HAVE to swich EUFI to Legacy to boot Ubuntu? I have both EUFI and Secure Boot on and it's working fine
[00:43] <bekks> JordanJ21: Yes, Ubuntu will not boot using secure boot.
[00:43] <Psil0Cybin> topper4125: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2187136
[00:43] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2187136
[00:43] <JordanJ21> Th LiveUSB that is
[00:43] <Psil0Cybin> that is it
[00:43] <bekks> JordanJ21: A liveUSB does not use secure boot at all :)
[00:44] <topoyiyo> Im trying to redirect all the request on my lan to my apache website with iptables but it doesnt work, anyone could help me please?
[00:44] <Guest90370> I found I couldn't load ubuntu w/ UEFI on
[00:44] <apb1963> ubuntu 12.04 ... my load average according TOP keeps going over 1... yet there doesn't seem to be anything hitting my CPU too hard... about 5% or so seems to be about max for any 1 process and I don't see more than 2 or 3 that have that kind of usage...  any ideas why the load is so high?
[00:44] <JordanJ21> Will the Legacy boot effect my windows install?
[00:44] <OerHeks> Psil0Cybin, still on the cedartrail driver issue?
[00:44] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: That doesnt help at all. Pastebin whatever you did to "make nomodeset permanent".
[00:44] <Psil0Cybin> yes OerHeks !
[00:45] <cpined> minimec:Let me check.
[00:45] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: i went into  sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[00:45] <Psil0Cybin> and added GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[00:45] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Pastebin ...
[00:45] <Guest90370> i spent a few days trying to dual boot ubuntu and windows 8 and just couldn,t get it right
[00:45] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Show us the actual file content please.
[00:45] <apb1963> topoyiyo: Try asking in ##networking #iptables and/or #apache
[00:46] <Guest90370> anyone else having this problem or just me?
[00:46] <diseasil> hi all.
[00:46] <cpined> minimec: It is installed already.
[00:46] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: http://pastebin.com/gN11JjdC
[00:46] <jojoa1997> hi i am using ubuntu 13.10 and for some reason all my hidden files show up when i open the default file manager
[00:47] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: disable "quiet" and disable "splash". And did you run update-grub after editing that file?
[00:47] <Guest90370> has anyone been able to sucessfully dual boot windows 8 and ubuntu 13.10?
[00:47] <minimec> cpined: Ok. If that is the case, I cannot help you further, as I don't use the parole player.
[00:47] <bekks> Guest90370: Yes, several thousand people I guess.
[00:47] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: I disabled splash before and it also did not work i can try disabling quiet and splash
[00:47] <cpined> ok, what player do you use?
[00:47] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: but i do not think that will fix my issue, as i tried it
[00:48] <Guest90370> well i tried for days and it just wouldn't work for me
[00:48] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Did you use update-grub after editing /etc/default/grub ?
[00:48] <bekks> !doesntwork | Guest90370
[00:48] <OerHeks> Psil0Cybin, too old, intel does not make a driver beyond kernel 3.2
[00:48] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: yes, everyone is mind boggled by this issue
[00:48] <minimec> cpined: standard. totem, vlc, mplayer...
[00:48] <Psil0Cybin> OerHeks: if that is the case, what do i do? stick to one kernel for ever?
[00:48] <diseasil> need some help, thanksI have just done fresh install 12.04 LTS and now have 2 home files.
[00:48] <cpined> ok, thanks
[00:48] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: You just got the solution.
[00:48] <topper4125> to answer ubottu's questions yes... windows 8 will sit on the couch all day, and want more moneuy
[00:48] <Guest90370> well for starters the grub loader would only load windows
[00:49] <Guest90370> not ubuntu
[00:49] <JordanJ21> Can I use iTunes in ubuntu? (Not natively of course)
[00:49] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: if that is the case, does this not mean that eventually my computerwill be unsecure if i cannot stick with the latest kernel builds? OerHeks what would i do to have my computer up to date?
[00:49] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Get a new graphics hardware.
[00:49] <Guest90370> ubottuare you there?
[00:50] <OerHeks> Psil0Cybin, yes, you are stuck to that driver and kernel, get other hardware.
[00:50] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: And yes, you computer will be insecure when staying on the old kernel forever.
[00:50] <Guest90370> thats funny topper
[00:50] <bekks> !ubottu | Guest90370
[00:50] <xangua> JordanJ21: you can try, but if your goal is to manage a device with iOS better keep a windows install
[00:50] <topper4125> :D
[00:50] <Guest90370> lol
[00:50] <bekks> Guest90370: Did you try to repait your grub?
[00:50] <bekks> *repair
[00:50] <Guest90370> i used boot-repair disk
[00:50] <JordanJ21> xangua: I have no idea if I can boot windoows in a Legacy boot
[00:51] <bekks> Guest90370: Did you follow the guide to repair your grub?
[00:51] <diseasil> @ JordanJ21 - you can use through Windows in a virtual machine - VM ware, or try -Play On Linux/Wine
[00:51] <Guest90370> it told me to make BOS boot fron sda2/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi???
[00:51] <Senjai`work> Hello all, I'm in quite a pickle
[00:51] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: OerHeks i am a broke student, so that is it...my hard ware is not supported? that stinks...why did they do this, my laptop was working perfectly fine until this kernel upgrade ... noooooo i need to use this computer so i guess i have to switch back to windows 7
[00:51] <Psil0Cybin> linux does not work on old hard ware eh?
[00:51] <solomont13> I'm a New user of Ubuntu I absolutely LOVE IT.
[00:52] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: It does. Blame it on Intel for not supporting your old hardware anymore.
[00:52] <Senjai`work> I mssed up installing some nvidia drivers and bumblebee, how can I "factory reset" my video drivers/settings to whatever comes with 13.10?
[00:52] <Guest90370> bekks did you get that?
[00:52] <Psil0Cybin> sigh guess it was a fun run for ubuntu but back to windows for me...
[00:52] <Senjai`work> At the moment, I can't boot graphically.
[00:52] <bekks> Guest90370: I never heard of "BOS boot" at all.
[00:52] <Guest90370> sorry
[00:52] <Guest90370> BIOS
[00:52] <Psil0Cybin> stinks how i have to use windows in order to have a "stable" system but i love linux so much more
[00:52] <Psil0Cybin> i wish i could do something to support my hard ware...
[00:53] <topper4125> Stability = LTS
[00:53] <topper4125> IMHO
[00:53] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: You cant. You can only replace it.
[00:53] <Psil0Cybin> i have LTS
[00:53] <Psil0Cybin> LTS Is not stable on an acer aspire one.
[00:53] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: It IS stable.
[00:53] <Senjai`work> Anyone with advice on how to reset my drivers?
[00:53] <Guest90370> i using a toshiba satelitte c855d
[00:53] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: ugh.. i have no money to replace, so im actually like out of luck...is what you guys are saying
[00:53] <topper4125> Which one? I'm using d275 and have an old KAV60 both running LTS latest everything XFCE 4.10
[00:53] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: The fact is: you have a graphics hardware which isnt support on kernels > 3.2
[00:53] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: And the other fact: current kernel on LTS is 3.5...
[00:53] <Psil0Cybin> darn it.. .bekks so what would you do if u were in my positions
[00:53] <Psil0Cybin> and are broke
[00:54] <Guest90370> really?
[00:54] <Psil0Cybin> i love ubuntu i dont want to use windows but i cannot afford a new machine
[00:54] <topper4125> both of my AOE's love LTS+XFCE
[00:54] <Psil0Cybin> this laptop was running perfectly fine.
[00:54] <Guest90370> so you have to wait til someone writes more code or what?
[00:54] <asjjohnson> ubuntu 12.04 cinnamon DE, chrome keeps going fullscreen, will not let me exit. tried F11, nada
[00:54] <diseasil> Psil0Cybin - try a different flavour of Linux.
[00:54] <bekks> Guest90370: Intel stopped supporting his hardware.
[00:54] <bekks> diseasil: That will not help him...
[00:55] <Psil0Cybin> using xfce..Bekks could i not build a build of my grahic driver
[00:55] <Psil0Cybin> for the kernel?
[00:55] <bekks> diseasil: The hardware he has is supported untile kernel 3.2 only.
[00:55] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Get into graphics driver coding, and do Intels job. It will take years.
[00:55] <Psil0Cybin> can i not rebuild the graphic driver?
[00:55] <diseasil> ah, what about puppy linux?
[00:55] <Psil0Cybin> ughhhhhhhh :(
[00:55] <bekks> diseasil: That will not magically make a newer kernel work on his hardware.
[00:55] <Guest90370> who said like several thousand people have windows 8 and ubuntu 13.10 dual booting?
[00:56] <bekks> Guest90370: It was me.
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> but somepeople suggested you can download a build made for kernel versions
[00:56] <Guest90370> I'd sure like to get some info
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> of graphic cards
[00:56] <i00nsu> Psil0Cybin: manualy everyone can
[00:56] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: There is no build for your kernel... Intel stopped supporting kernels > 3.2
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> is it hard to do?
[00:56] <topper4125> if you can get the source, you can for it. expand it, support it, sell it on ebay.... free as in freedom they all say.
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> ugh guys im actually going to cry... i just got this laptop a year ago
[00:56] <Guest90370> why can't I get this to happen?
[00:57] <i00nsu> bekks: that's really true? :o
[00:57] <bekks> Guest90370: I dont know. You are not providing that much details.
[00:57] <topper4125> Psil0Cybin, which version of the Acer Apire One do you have?
[00:57] <bekks> i00nsu: Yes, thats really true.
[00:57] <OerHeks> Psil0Cybin, good luck finding a working driver.
[00:57] <Guest90370> i mean right now i've got ubuntu 13.10 on my HP Mini and t works great!!!
[00:58] <Guest90370> Grub doesn't boot ubuntu
[00:58] <bekks> Guest90370: you are using USB which isnt affected of secure boot,
[00:58] <Guest90370> ONLY windows8
[00:58] <topper4125> I have 2 acer Aspire Ones, one is a D275, and the other is a first generation KAV60, both run fine under the new kernal
[00:58] <Eliyahu> does mint 15 work good with skype?
[00:58] <i00nsu> strange, I use gentoo kernel and everything work.. or you mean, only for GPU-cards ?
[00:58] <xangua> !mint | Eliyahu
[00:59] <bekks> !mint | Eliyahu
[00:59] <Guest90370> is there a better verson of linux i could use?
[00:59] <bekks> Guest90370: No. You just have to fix grub.
[00:59] <bekks> !grub2 | Guest90370
[00:59] <i00nsu> strange, I use gentoo kernel and everything work.. or you mean, only for GPU-cards ? bekks
[01:00] <bekks> i00nsu: yes.
[01:00] <i00nsu> ok
[01:00] <Guest90370> how and what does make BIOS boot to sda2/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi mean anyhow?
[01:00] <bekks> i00nsu: his dedicated GPU isnt supported by Intel anymore.
[01:00] <bekks> Guest90370: Thats described in the links given.
[01:01]  * topper4125 finds it really strange how we have the same hardware, same DE, same Distro, my vid works... the other person's doesn't...
[01:01] <i00nsu> Psil0Cybin: what distro you using? + kernel
[01:02] <bekks> topper4125: did you compare make and model of your GPUs?
[01:02] <Guest90370> how and what does make BIOS boot to sda2/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi mean anyhow????
[01:02] <diseasil> I need help, I have a /home/home  dir after fresh install
[01:02] <Guest90370> oh bekks??
[01:02] <i00nsu> diseasil: login-user isn't "home"?
[01:03] <topper4125> bekks tried to get the answer to exactly what version of the Aspire Psil0Cybin has (there are several) but I have the OLDEST first gen and one of the newer ones... (from last year) both running LTS, XFCE, latest kernal... all good... my collection of netbooks should cover this issue.
[01:03] <diseasil> yes but also have sub dir from previous install. they are on a separate partition
[01:03] <topper4125> which is why I think its more of an XFCE thing not a kernal thing personally.
[01:04] <ausjke1> on 12.04 whenever i accidentally drag something over to the top bar the window i dragged goesto full screen
[01:04] <Guest90370> I'm trying to understand this Linux stuff make BIOS boot to sda2/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi can anyone explain ???
[01:04] <ausjke1> anyway to disable this 'feature'?
[01:04] <Psil0Cybin> topper4125: i have a an acer aspire one d270-1628
[01:04] <reisio> Guest90370: /nick biosPlease
[01:04] <xangua> diseasil: you mean you have a separate partition for /home ¿
[01:04] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: and why gpu very exactly?
[01:04] <Psil0Cybin> I am running Xfce Xubuntu but having problem with the newest kernel
[01:04] <Psil0Cybin> sorry what bekks ?
[01:04] <diseasil> xangua: yes correct
[01:05] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: which graphics hardware in detail do you have?
[01:05] <i00nsu> diseasil: on the fresh install you made the "preserv old install /home" ?
[01:05] <Psil0Cybin> how do i find out
[01:05] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: within a specific model vendors may change the used hardware.
[01:05] <Psil0Cybin> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[01:05] <topper4125> k.. back in a sec (this machine is a d275, my other is a KAV60 (first Gen).. gonna make sure the Kav 60 is running as current as I am sure it is, and I'll see whats up
[01:05] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: you dont even know and speculate about your hardware?!
[01:05] <Psil0Cybin> kk ty topper4125
[01:05] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[01:06] <wolfy1339> how do you disable the feature "autosuspend" (for my wifi adapter, double checked it sees it, but doesn't use it)?
[01:06] <OerHeks> bekks search for cedartrail will do
[01:06] <Guest90370> well I'll try back another time
[01:06] <Guest90370> thanks to all
[01:07] <diseasil> i00nsu: no just backed up home with rsync formatted HD re-installed and restored home to the new partition.
[01:07] <i00nsu> Psil0Cybin: pastebin $ lspci -v
[01:07] <bekks> diseasil: so you restored one directory level too deep.
[01:07] <i00nsu> or use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:08] <Psil0Cybin> i00nsu: http://pastebin.com/Pp0hs8WU
[01:08] <wolfy1339> how do you disable the feature "autosuspend" on usb devices (for my wifi adapter)?
[01:09] <diseasil> I seems like it but I don't under how. at no point did i invoke home/home
[01:09] <bekks> diseasil: you used one "/" character too much when restoring.
[01:09] <diseasil> the good thing is I have all my info.
[01:10] <Psil0Cybin> i00nsu: it looks like everyone is saying intel is not supporting kernel upgrades from now one...which is worrying me i just recently got this laptop a year ago.. i cannot afford a new one
[01:11] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: No. We said: Intel stopped supporting your specific graphics hardware for kernel > 3.2
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: how come 3.2.0-55-generic-pae works perfectly fine
[01:12] <BuntuFuntu> Psil0cybin: Hiya!
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> just not 3.2.0-56-generic-pae
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> hello BuntuFuntu !
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> like im using the one kernel below the new one
[01:12] <BuntuFuntu> Lol I was in my school's writing lab..
[01:12] <BuntuFuntu> The computers all have Ubuntu stickers on them XD
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> Lol BuntuFuntu
[01:13] <wolfy1339> how do you disable the feature "autosuspend" on usb devices (for my wifi adapter)?
[01:13] <BuntuFuntu> Lol I' m guessing that means they are Ubuntu Hardware-certified?
[01:13] <ricepuddin> so I've got install issues with ubuntu server. My keyboard works fine in the grub menu and the system boots into the console-based installer... but from then on in the keyboard doesn't work (looks like it's off, as the numlock light goes out immediately as it starts to boot). Does anyone have any ideas on this? The exact same system works fine with a desktop ubuntu install. Keyboard is a standard wired usb.
[01:13] <BuntuFuntu> I took a shot in the dark installing Ubuntu onto this netbook. I'm glad it works fine though ^_^
[01:13] <BuntuFuntu> \
[01:14] <topper4125> Both of my AspireOnes are using 3.8.0-33 generic
[01:14] <topper4125> Linux AOD257 3.8.0-33-generic #48~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 24 16:31:16 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[01:15] <BuntuFuntu> Topper: Do you recommend I upgrade from the 12.04 LTS to 13.10 or wait until the next LTS comes out?
[01:15] <topper4125> I only go from LTS to LTS... but don't let that stop you...
[01:15] <Psil0Cybin> topper4125: do you think its an issue if your using out dated kernels too?
[01:16] <Psil0Cybin> does that not create security issues, etc?
[01:16] <Psil0Cybin> topper4125: so you would keep linux on ur machine with out dated kernels?
[01:16] <BuntuFuntu> I will wait for the next LTS then.
[01:16] <kelvinella> hi I mount NSA server directory with sudo mount -t cifs -o credentials=/home/kelvinella/.smb //192.168.0.10/home /home/kelvinella/mHQ/home, but I am not able to delete file in file manager. why?
[01:17] <kelvinella> I have to do sudo rm file in terminal instead.  but how do I make it so that it is mount like windows does?
[01:17] <topper4125> I *could* be a security issue... just not one I concern myself with...personally the only security threat that scares me personally is the NSA, and they don't care what kernal you have... if they want in, they're in
[01:17] <topper4125> *IT could be... yada yad
[01:18] <BuntuFuntu> Brb just downloaded 8 Updates for Ubuntu 12.04
[01:18] <wolfy1339> hello? i have been posting my question and nobody has been answering..... i uderstsnd there were other people but you have to atleast answer later
[01:18] <Psil0Cybin> topper4125: so your saying u would keep ur linux for ever @ some kernel version even if it is out dated
[01:19] <BuntuFuntu> Wolfy1339: What's your question?
[01:19] <topper4125> because of exactly "HOW OPEN" this community is, if there is a *huge* gapping security threat that is real to the end user, it generally gets outted by the public, before it becomes a threat....
[01:19] <Psil0Cybin> i am just worried about security issues. I want to keep my machine secure, by keeping it up to date.
[01:19] <wolfy1339> how do you disable the feature "autosuspend" on usb devices?
[01:19] <Psil0Cybin> I do not understand if i should go to Intels head office and have a talk with them this is ridicious
[01:19] <Psil0Cybin> i just bought this laptop I hate intel!
[01:19] <BuntuFuntu> Wolfy1339: Let me check that for you.
[01:20] <BuntuFuntu> Psil0cybin: I run with an Intel Atom processor and an Intel graphics driver/chip I think
[01:20] <BuntuFuntu> I remember seeing something about my system having Intel GMA 3150 or something when I had Windoze.
[01:21] <i00nsu> Psil0Cybin: did you check md5sum of the ubuntu.iso ?
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> i00nsu: it was a long time ago before i knew how to do md5sum checks so i did not
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> but i got the iso specifically off the ubuntu site for my acer aspire one
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> i looked around for a long time and finally found an ISO that would boot up properly
[01:22] <nafg> Hi, can someone help me with preseeding the installer?
[01:22] <topper4125> Psil0Cybin, while you're in there about the graphics cards... ask them about this: http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/14/new-intel-chip-wont-support-linux/
[01:22] <nafg> Hi, can someone help me with preseeding the installer?
[01:23] <nafg> I guess the first question would be, how can I tell whether my preseed file is actually being loaded?
[01:23] <topper4125> then ask for the address of AMD lolz
[01:23] <Guest76147> I have a virtual machine host and offer 10.04 LTS and 12.04 LTS.  Do you think that I should drop the 10.04 LTS, or would it be a viable option for someone to have a fresh install of 10.04 LTS?
[01:24] <BuntuFuntu> Wolfty1339: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1170381
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> topper4125: OMG are u serious!! I HATE INTEL!
[01:24] <BuntuFuntu> Wolfy1339: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1170381 That what you are looking for?
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> What the hell im going to give them my laptop i want my moneyt back
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> i was told this alptop would run ubuntu
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> it runs ubuntu but cannot update ubuntu garbage!
[01:24] <wolfy1339> BuntuFuntu, maybe... lemme look at it
[01:25] <BuntuFuntu> Well, atleast they were right about it running Ubuntu.
[01:25] <topper4125> amd and nvidia are the answer to a majority of the problems that are caused by wheelings and dealings by microsoft and intel
[01:25] <minimec> Psil0Cybin: Stop with that bullsh..t. Use some integrated AMD GPU/CPU chip once under linux and then I ask you, wich company you hate.
[01:26] <BuntuFuntu> omg, exactly what minimec said. That stuff is hell. ._.
[01:26] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[01:26] <Psil0Cybin> im in a bad mood tonight :( grunts
[01:26] <minimec> topper4125: We are talking about one CPU, not a CPU series... So here again... stop with that bullsh...t.
[01:27] <BuntuFuntu> Psilo what chip are you using?
[01:27] <wolfy1339> BuntuFuntu, no... that's not it. in windows when you went to device manager and go to a device's properties you could disable that option. Is there an equivalent of that in ubuntu?
[01:27] <i00nsu> hahaha in some point we all hate something.. normaly what is not working as we wish
[01:27] <Psil0Cybin> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[01:28] <Psil0Cybin> BuntuFuntu:
[01:28] <BuntuFuntu> Intel Atom Processor?
[01:28] <Psil0Cybin> yup
[01:28] <BuntuFuntu> I'm running with an Intel N455 on a Lenovo S100
[01:28] <minimec> Psil0Cybin: I am running some self compiled linux-kernels here. I am not always on the 'newest' stuff here. Enjoy your ...55 version of that kernel until maybe version ...57 of the kernel fixes your bug!
[01:29] <topper4125> True... it was one cpu, for one specific run...still doesn't make sense to me... but that's the game they play, and they play it well. if they want to lock themselves down to a limited market... who am I to judge...
[01:29] <BuntuFuntu> Psil0Cybin:  Rest assured that your bug will not last for long. Once a bug is found, Kernel developers are quick to patch them.
[01:29] <Psil0Cybin> BuntuFuntu: but they are suggesting it has to do with intel
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> minimec: if that is the solution i would love That!!
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> i am just paranoid there will be no fix
[01:30] <BuntuFuntu> I don't see why. Intel has worked with the Linux community before.
[01:30] <BuntuFuntu> I'm pretty sure they have anyways.
[01:31] <zykotick9> BuntuFuntu: fyi, those GMAcrap Intel cards, are not actually made by Intel (Intel just puts there name on them) :(..
[01:31] <minimec> Psil0Cybin: Years of linux experience tell me, that this is the solution...
[01:31] <BuntuFuntu> Ah I see zykotick9
[01:32] <BuntuFuntu> But the GMA works fine on 12.04.
[01:32] <BuntuFuntu> For me. o.o
[01:32] <Psil0Cybin> good thats what i wanted to hear minimec if that is the case, i would be forever greatefull i am just so worried that once i fell in love with linux all the problems start
[01:33] <BuntuFuntu> I actually came to Ubuntu to get away from the Viruses of windows. I wasnt as scared to move to Linux with Buntu because everywhere I look most of the programs I use,
[01:33] <BuntuFuntu> have a pre-compiled Ubuntu version.
[01:34] <topper4125> ^that^
[01:34] <topper4125> :)
[01:34] <diseasil> good night
[01:36] <BuntuFuntu> That, and to me an OS is meant to be fun, open. Customizable.
[01:36] <TheMadDrizzle> i'm having problems being able to access my Galaxy S4 ( Rom: Hyperdrive 10.0.2 ) on my home pc running Ubuntu 13.10.  I updated both at the same time, and now I can access my SD card within my phone, but I cant access the EMMC partition of my phone - Can anyone give me a bit of advice?  I've updated the mtplib on ubuntu but still not working.
[01:37] <topper4125> I started in Ubuntu to learn the ropes, moved to Arch to try Bleeding edge, then to Ubuntu Mini after realizing bleeding edge means "babysit OS more than use software", and have been on Ubuntu Mini ever since.
[01:37] <BuntuFuntu> TheMadDrizzle: Running Ubuntu Touch?
[01:37] <BuntuFuntu> Topper: Didn't know there was an Ubuntu Mini. I'm running Ubuntu Desktop on a lenovo S100
[01:38] <TheMadDrizzle> BuntuFuntu: Nope, 13.10 on pc, and Hyperdrive 10.0.2 on Galaxy S4 ( MTP device )
[01:38] <BuntuFuntu> Well just ran the Additional drivers program on my Ubuntu.
[01:38] <BuntuFuntu> Apparently I'm not using any Propietary drivers.(:
[01:38] <topper4125> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD Version 13.10 is a 30Mb download :)
[01:39] <BuntuFuntu> Completely open source. me thinks :D
[01:39] <wolfy1339> In windows when you went to device manager and go to a device's properties you could disable the "Allow the computer to diable this device to save power" option. Is there an equivalent of that in ubuntu? Cause it hink it might be causing all my problems with my wifi
[01:39] <BuntuFuntu> topper4125: Look at these specs: http://www.cnet.com/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-s100-1067/4505-3121_7-34982311.html
[01:39] <BuntuFuntu> Wolfy1339: Which Ubuntu version are you using again?
[01:39] <wolfy1339> 13.10
[01:39] <BuntuFuntu> Ah. Running 12.04 here.
[01:41] <topper4125> Same specs and my D275 I think...  and ya... runnin 12.04 LTS from Mini Install here as well... Minimal is pretty much like setting up an Arch box, but a tish more stability.
[01:41] <william1> after doing a dist-upgrade, what can be done to clean up excessive space?  Just talking about a bare bones install on Ubuntu and a dist-upgrade that seems to take up a lot of space.
[01:42] <daftykins> william1: remove outdated kernels and "sudo apt-get clean" to clear out the repositories
[01:42] <BuntuFuntu> William1: When it comes to upgrading to the next LTS, I plan on just wiping Ubuntu and installing the new version.
[01:42] <william1> thanks daftykins!
[01:42] <Jigawatts> what does LTS mean
[01:42] <daftykins> long term support
[01:42] <BuntuFuntu> Jigawatts: Long Term Support.
[01:42] <Jigawatts> k thanks
[01:43] <BuntuFuntu> Normal releases are only supported for 9 months.
[01:43] <topper4125> I usually do that.. I have my /home in its own partition for the purpose
[01:43] <cpined> hello, I use remmina to try to connect to a ubuntu box, but the only thing that happens is a get a Connection Log and an "Ok" button which I'm not able to click on.
[01:43] <william1> daftykins: just delete the old kernels manually or is there a specific package to look for?
[01:43] <BuntuFuntu> Topper: I have a mostly fresh install of Ubuntu except for Skype XD
[01:44] <daftykins> william1: are you familiar with pastebin? pastebin the output of "ls /boot" for me
[01:44] <daftykins> william1: oh and add the output of "uname -r" after it
[01:44] <william1> daftykins: I have a lot I can remove there.  Just wasn't sure if certain things should be removed with apt-get.
[01:45] <daftykins> william1: you'll do it via package management, yes
[01:45] <TheMadDrizzle> Attempting to connect device(s)
[01:45] <TheMadDrizzle> ignoring libusb_claim_interface() = -6PTP_ERROR_IO: failed to open session, trying again after resetting USB interface     -  This is the error message I get when trying to use mtp-detect on my Galaxy S4, Can anyone help me troubleshoot it?  Why wouldn't it be able to  claim the device?
[01:45] <topper4125> ahh ya.. could probably fit the /home on a thumbdrive then ;)
[01:45] <zykotick9> william1: you might want to check the size of apt's cache as well "du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives/", you can remove with "sudo apt-get clean"
[01:45] <daftykins> zykotick9: already shared that one ^_^
[01:45] <william1> also those old kernels don't take up too much of the extra space I am seeing.
[01:45] <william1> I am seeing a few extra hundred MBs as a tar gz
[01:46] <william1> will try to clean as you said though
[01:46] <nafg> william1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[01:46] <nafg> Can anyone help me with preseeding?
[01:49] <wolfy1339> In windows, when you went to device manager and go to a device's properties you could disable the "Allow the computer to diable this device to save power" option. Is there an equivalent of that in ubuntu 13.10?
[01:49] <william1> daftykins: apt-get clean cleared out 408 MB :)
[01:49] <topper4125> what exactly are your trying to disable wolfy1339
[01:50] <wolfy1339> topper4125, selective suspend
[01:50] <topper4125> william1, do you have bleachbit installed?
[01:50] <topper4125> !info bleachbit
[01:51] <Jinxy> Hello all
[01:51] <william1> topper4125: This is pretty much barebones and the only thing that changed and added that 400 MB was the dist-upgrade.
[01:51] <topper4125> wolfy1339, not sure if this is what you are looking for or not: http://askubuntu.com/questions/80638/how-to-disable-auto-power-off-of-usb-devices-like-usb-mouse
[01:52] <Jinxy> I can't find my /etc/rc.local file?
[01:52] <topper4125> ah.. k... just checking william1
[01:52] <Jinxy> where would it be if not in /etc/ ? Can I just create another one?
[01:52] <william1> Thanks topper4125 will look into that though
[01:53] <william1> I asked earlier, will try again.  Any reason someone would want to make a new installation of 10.04 LTS rather than 12.04 LTS?
[01:53] <wolfy1339> topper4125, you are the second person to link me there.... i don't HAVE the program their using & talking about....
[01:53] <wolfy1339> and no that's not it
[01:53] <zykotick9> william1: 10.04 is ONLY supported on servers at this point!  that means MOST of the packages are NOT supported.
[01:54] <william1> zykotick9: headless servers is the target.
[01:54] <BuntuFuntu> William1: Recommend a new install of Ubuntu 12.04, If your using Ubuntu 10 as a desktop.
[01:54] <william1> zykotick9: specifically a Xen domU.  Just wondering if there are valid resons people might need the older one.
[01:54] <zykotick9> william1: well, don't expect many packages... if you go 10.04.
[01:55] <william1> As an example I know of a few things that only run on CentOS 5.
[01:55] <zykotick9> william1: no (IMO)
[01:55] <nafg> Can anyone help me with preseeding?
[01:55] <west> how do I tell what version of ubuntu i have (13.04 or 13.10) from terminal.
[01:56] <zykotick9> west: "lsb_realease -a"
[01:56] <west> zykotick9, thanks
[01:57] <Jinxy> If i have a list of commands, how can I execute them on startup? Is there a file I can write them to?
[01:57] <topper4125> wolfy1339, how about this one (looks like its done with an edit of modprobe.d http://www.turnkeylinux.org/forum/support/20110928/disable-usb-autosuspend
[02:00] <topper4125> To guess an answer or two as to why someone would willingly install a nonsupported ubuntu release (like 10.04)... 1) maybe its for a special use box, that they know 10.04 (or at least the kernal that came with it... just work out of the box). or 2) there was a wallpaper in 10.04 you really *really* *#really#* liked.
[02:00] <kelvinella> what is uid=1000 in mount?
[02:01] <kelvinella> do i need this option for SMB mounting if I want to be able to cp or mv files in the SMB share?
[02:01] <Jinxy> ¬¬
[02:03] <daftykins> topper4125: 1) 10.04 server is still in support 2) 'kernel' not kernal and 3) good night!
[02:03] <topper4125> g'nite
[02:04] <BuntuFuntu> Just realized I have mostly Linux devices.
[02:04] <BuntuFuntu> o.oo
[02:04]  * topper4125 always spells kernel wrong.... but at least I'm not spelling it like the mascot of a fast food chicken franchise ;)
[02:05] <BuntuFuntu> I want Ubuntu Touch doe
[02:06] <topper4125> I'm still in the air about touch.
[02:06] <topper4125> and the only machine that I have that is win based is my GPS unit in the car. (only know that because of the error codes it spits out when it crashes (the machine.. not the car)..
[02:07] <Jinxy> I want mc (midnight commander) to run everytime I login to Ubuntu. Where do I set the command 'mc' ?
[02:07] <Jinxy> So that it runs every time I login?
[02:07] <Jinxy> Not on boot
[02:07] <reisio> Jinxy: in X?
[02:08] <Jinxy> reisio: Don't understand
[02:08] <topper4125> Sessions and Startup??
[02:08] <Jinxy> I just want the command to be run on the start of a session
[02:09] <Jinxy> running the command on startup probably wouldn't cause any harm, but I'd rather it not
[02:09] <topper4125> BRB switching to Unity...
[02:09] <wafflejock> Jinxy: think he's asking if you want it to run during a graphical login or for all logins from say ssh or tty
[02:09] <wafflejock> Jinxy: I think you're basically looking at ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc but not entirely clear just popped in
[02:10] <Jinxy> waffflejock: Noob question, but every commands inside a user's ~/.bashrc are run when they login, correct?
[02:11] <wafflejock> Jinxy: here's the official stuff I beleive https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Bash-Startup-Files.html
[02:11] <gp5st> does anyone know if libmagic reads whole files or only as much as it needs
[02:12] <wafflejock> Jinxy: but yah basically anytime bash shell is used which I believe is the default shell for users
[02:12] <topper4125>  Jinxy, use startup applications to have unity auto fire programs you want
[02:12] <Jinxy> wafflejock: okay I'll give it a whirl, thanks
[02:12] <wafflejock> topper4125: good point too ^
[02:12] <Jinxy> topper4125: I'm using a cli but thanks :)
[02:13] <topper4125> oh... then ya.. bash it then...
[02:13] <reisio> Jinxy: put this into your ~/.bashrc: if [ ! $(pidof mc) ]; then mc; fi
[02:13] <reisio> that way your head won't explode
[02:13]  * topper4125 switched to unity to find the answer for someone not using unity... back to XFCE fer me! :)
[02:13] <reisio> topper4125: :p
[02:13] <reisio> 'Xfce'
[02:14] <topper4125> back in a bit...
[02:15] <topper4125> ahhh... all better ;)
[02:37] <phong_> hi is SSD faster for ubuntu then a regular disk drive?
[02:38] <cfhowlett> phong_, of course
[02:38] <phong_> anyone know how to clear xchat screen?  Usually I press ALT+L
[02:38] <cfhowlett> phong_, /clear
[02:38] <phong_> no
[02:38] <phong_> there is short cut
[02:38] <phong_> is it neccessary to have SSD to run ubuntu and fast?
[02:39] <cfhowlett> "fast"?
[02:39] <phong_> is SSD neccessary?
[02:40] <reisio> phong_: very few things which humans predate are necessary
[02:40] <cfhowlett> phong_, ubuntu runs well on usb/hdd/ssd.
[02:40] <reisio> including most humans :p
[02:40] <phong_> cfhowlett, so it is not necessary then
[02:40] <cfhowlett> phong_, I and million of other users have no ssd but we have ubuntu so ... no
[02:41] <phong_> ok
[02:43] <phong_> i love ubuntu
[02:43] <phong_> fast :)
[02:43] <phong_> however, lack of softwares though
[02:43] <Guest3828> I am new to ubuntu and I am trying to change the name before the @
[02:43] <phong_> is there a way to make vlc a default player?
[02:43] <cfhowlett> phong_, yeah, only thousands of packages on the software center.  so sad
[02:44] <phong_> is RedHat good?
[02:44] <phong_> Redhat is not free.
[02:44] <cfhowlett> !ot|phong_, this is the ubuntu support channel.
[02:45] <qwerty1793> hi, I'm running a program on 12.04 which is ram intensive, if I monitor its ram usage using top then when it gets to ~80% the entire computer freezes for ~1minute (like I can't even drag windows around) and then it springs back to life with ~60% being used. Is this the swap disk kicking in?
[02:45] <Guest3828> I am new to ubuntu and I am trying to change the name before the @ in the terminal
[02:46] <AndroUser> Hello everyone
[02:46] <BuntuFuntu> Guest3828 Do you see unity bar to the left on your screen?
[02:46] <cfhowlett> Guest3828, change your account name in settings > user
[02:46] <reisio> phong_: lack of softwares? :p
[02:46] <cfhowlett> AndroUser, greetings
[02:46] <Guest3828> thank you
[02:47] <^aDaM> lo
[02:47] <^aDaM> hi Guest3828
[02:47] <Moonlightning> I did a `sudo apt-get upgrade` just now, but /boot filled up. So I moved a bunch of (apparently) old kernels and such out to /var/tmp (instead of deleting them). Then I did `sudo apt-get upgrade` again, but it completed successfully without doing anything. I'm not sure everything is in a working state. Is there some kind of integrity check I can do?
[02:47] <Guest3828> Hi aDaM
[02:48] <Moonlightning> all of {vmlinux,initrd.img}{,.old} point to existing files in /boot, and I /think/ the `.old`s point to kernels|images that were there before. If the kernel or image is bad, the system will fall back to the old ones, right?
[02:50] <Natalie-5274> Is there a program for ubuntu that shows a map of all the devices connected to my local area network?
[02:52] <BuntuFuntu> Natalie:
[02:52] <BuntuFuntu> Natalie-5274: Click on the Home folder icon in your unity bar.
[02:52] <MrPPS> what's Ubuntu 13.10 like with dual-booting Windows 8 these days?
[02:53] <MrPPS> 13.04 wasn't able to do it for me
[02:53] <Natalie-5274> BuntuFuntu: 'Files'?
[02:54] <BuntuFuntu> Did you click the orange folder
[02:54] <BuntuFuntu> ?
[02:54] <Natalie-5274> Yeah I clicked it
[02:55] <BuntuFuntu> Ok in the menu to the left in that window  you should see home desktop  etc
[02:55] <BuntuFuntu> Do you see a browse network Menu entry?
[02:55] <Natalie-5274> I
[02:55] <Natalie-5274> I see it
[02:55] <BuntuFuntu> Click that.
[02:55] <pero> i seem to have lost the unity web apps extension in chromium - any ideas for getting it back?
[02:55] <cfhowlett> !cookies|BuntuFuntu,
[02:56] <cfhowlett> !cookie|BuntuFuntu,
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> MrPPS, No problem here but I have a msdos setup no uefi.
[02:56] <BuntuFuntu> Not sure if sarcasm or not but ok. I like cookies :3
[02:56] <cfhowlett> BuntuFuntu, I rarely do sarcasm.  well done.
[02:57] <topper4125> !cookies | BuntuFuntu
[02:57] <BuntuFuntu> :3
[02:57] <BuntuFuntu> Is there a !milk option too??
[02:57] <BuntuFuntu> Can't eat cookies without milk
[02:57] <duhamel> hi all, i am trying to get the bluetooth to work on my hp laptop. i am running 13.10 with a ralink rt3290 that is showing up when i lspci.
[02:57] <BuntuFuntu> !milk | BuntuFUntu
[02:58] <cfhowlett> !beer
[02:58] <BuntuFuntu> !beer
[02:58] <cfhowlett> !wine
[02:58] <duhamel> i downloaded the drivers and when i go to make i am getting this error:error: ‘__mod_pci_device_table’ aliased to undefined symbol ‘rtbt_pci_ids
[02:59] <duhamel> what does this mean?
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> !gin
[03:00] <cfhowlett> !pie
[03:00] <cfhowlett> !pizza
[03:01] <dewdgang-frank> !beer
[03:01] <topper4125> duhamel, do you have a bluetooth device attached to the machine (or did you at some point?)
[03:01] <topper4125> !spoon
[03:02] <MrPPS> thanks wilee-nilee, unfortunately I have UEFI
[03:02] <dewdgang-frank> 04:01 ubottu: Sorry, I don't know anything about beer
[03:02] <dewdgang-frank> gotta teach that one the best in life there is.
[03:02] <duhamel> topper4125: yeah. im dualbooting windows 8 and 13.10 and it works in windows but not linux.
[03:02] <MrPPS> duhamel: did you start with win 8 installed first?
[03:02] <duhamel> MrPPS: yeah
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> MrPPS, Seems do-able in general just not the same for everyone, would you like a link at the ubuntu forums on this?
[03:03] <topper4125> duhamel, when it comes to duel boot with win 8, I'm at a complete loss (haven't used win since xp days)... that error however has something to do with blue tooth
[03:03] <MrPPS> duhamel: thanks :)
[03:03] <MrPPS> wilee-nilee: that'd be nice, if you have it handy, thanks :)
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> MrPPS, This mod is focused on this and will help you if you have a thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[03:04] <JordanJ2> Hello, I am installing ubuntu in Legacy mode, using windows 8 in EUFI will installing GRUB2 cause problems booting windows when ubuntu installs it?
[03:04] <MrPPS> thanks wilee-nilee, shall take a look
[03:05] <MrPPS> been a while since I've done dual booting, so just not up with the latest :)
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, Take a look at that link I just gave MrPPS
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, Have you seen the uefi wiki?
[03:05] <duhamel> topper: yeah im tryi ng to make the drivers
[03:06] <JordanJ2> wilee-nilee: That is not what i'm looking for :P
[03:06] <adamu> Hello
[03:06] <cfhowlett> adamu, greetings
[03:06] <dewdgang-frank> hey :)
[03:06] <randomer_> how to detect the level of anonymity that a proxy has
[03:06] <randomer_> ?
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, Both have relative info if you have a uefi setup, and grub info is needed.
[03:07] <JordanJ2> wilee-nilee: I am installing Ubuntu in Legacy mode
[03:07] <JordanJ2> I am running Windows 8 in EUFI with Secure Boot
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, still relevant if the HD and computer is uefi, unless you have wiped the gpt from it, have you wiped the gpt?
[03:08] <JordanJ2> I would like to know if I will have a problem installing GRUB2 in Ubuntu if it would still boot into windows hence different modes
[03:08] <JordanJ2> No
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, grub 2 is installed yes but not in the mbr.
[03:09] <randomer_> ?
[03:09] <randomer_> how to detect the level of anonymity that a proxy has
[03:09] <reisio> randomer_: that's the opposite of what people using proxies want you to know
[03:09] <reisio> so, with some difficulty
[03:10] <JordanJ2> wilee-nilee: So I will not have a problem?
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, I believe the legacy is for a wiped HD no gpt so you can use the mbr.
[03:10] <randomer_> reisio yes?
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> no uefi anyway which had gpt in windows
[03:11] <JordanJ2> Also installing Ubuntu in Legacy and having Windows in EUFI will be fine wilee-nilee?
[03:11] <adamu> Does Ubuntu For Phones Integrate Well With Ubuntu On The Desktop?
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, Not sure and virtually few here really know to be honest.
[03:11] <raghavendra> I had the problem that when I gave the command that sudo apt-get update giving error in middle that Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources
[03:11] <raghavendra>   404  Not Found
[03:11] <raghavendra> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main i386 Packages
[03:11] <raghavendra>   404  Not Found
[03:11] <FloodBot1> raghavendra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> raghavendra, Check if the ppa has precise added.
[03:12] <BuntuFuntu> adamu I believe so
[03:12] <BuntuFuntu> I read something about that. Hold on
[03:12] <randomer_> this chat is a mess, how to turn off the setting for the people that leave and join?
[03:12] <randomer_> ??????
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> randomer_, your irc app?
[03:12] <randomer_> webchat.freenode.net
[03:12] <randomer_> is there a command?
[03:13] <adamu> I am so glad I can watch NetFlix now...
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> randomer_, probably in preferences, not sure if webchat has one, regular apps like xchat/hexchat do.
[03:13] <BuntuFuntu> Adamu: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/features
[03:13] <raghavendra> I am new to ubuntu 12.04 how to check the ppa added
[03:14] <jmgk> hello raghavendra
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> raghavendra, Go to the ppa's webpage and look.
[03:14] <adamu> BuntuFuntu, I'm looking forward to trying this out sometime...
[03:14] <jmgk> raghavendra:  if you need help jut ask here or me :)
[03:14] <BuntuFuntu> Do you have a Galaxy Nexus or A Nexus 4?
[03:14] <BuntuFuntu> Adamu:
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> raghavendra, never seen a ppa attached ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources
[03:16] <raghavendra> I am having the problem that when I try update using the update manager its showing the message that check the internet connction
[03:16] <adamu> BuntuFuntu, Me? I currently have an iphone.. getting ready to buy a new phone haven't looked all that much yet
[03:16] <jmgk> hmm
[03:16] <jmgk> raghavendra:  make sure your cable is properly plugged in
[03:17] <BuntuFuntu> AdamU: Ubuntu Touch can be flashed onto the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4
[03:17] <jmgk> or make surrey our wifi signal/card is not down
[03:17] <jmgk> sure*
[03:17] <BuntuFuntu> And Android is able to be reinstalled to those yes.
[03:17] <raghavendra> its correct and I am using also
[03:17] <jmgk> ok
[03:18] <adamu> BuntuFuntu, Thanks I'll keep that in mind I'm looking forward to getting a phone I don't have to jailbreak to run openssh on :P
[03:18] <jmgk> raghavendra:  got my msg? I can help with the issue
[03:18] <jmgk> Go to network manager
[03:18] <BuntuFuntu> Baha yeah :P I have never had an iphone
[03:19] <BuntuFuntu> I've had mostly windows products but been full-linux for a while except at school where they use Windows 7
[03:19] <BuntuFuntu> But even for that, I have a Live Ubuntu Install :)
[03:20] <adamu> BuntuFuntu, Haha yeah its weird being in computer science classes and being the only one using Ubuntu/Debian/Slackware with emacs or vim whereas everyone else is using visual studio and windows 7 :P
[03:21] <BuntuFuntu> Adamu: Omg yes I love using Ubuntu in Multimedia 2
[03:21] <BuntuFuntu> Everyone always asks how I customize my Login screen like it is and I end up having to explain Ubuntu lol
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> adamu, Your at the wrong school mine had two open source labs and many using open source
[03:22] <BuntuFuntu> Wilee-nilee: My school uses windows because they have a "District-wide License"
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> BuntuFuntu, This college?
[03:23] <BuntuFuntu> Kinda funny how I was curious one day and a couple of computers are using pirated Windows copies, that are genuine. and No this is normal american High School
[03:23] <BuntuFuntu> I'm 16. :P
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> BuntuFuntu, ah, high school that was about 30 years ago for me, oh the memories. ;)
[03:23] <adamu> wilee-nilee, Yeah... :/
[03:24] <reisio> when NASA uses Windows, there's even less hope for the USA's education system
[03:24] <reisio> which is massively more in the crapper
[03:24] <adamu> I believe the DOD uses Red Hat?
[03:24] <BuntuFuntu> A kid got banned here for trying to install Ubuntu to a couple of computers.
[03:25] <adamu> BuntuFuntu, Like Format Them? Or run a live cd
[03:25] <BuntuFuntu> Format them.
[03:25] <BuntuFuntu> I believe he was just trying to do a service imho XD
[03:25] <adamu> BuntuFuntu, ROFL...
[03:25] <wjtaylor> what's the best way to download java for squeeze?
[03:25] <iIlL10Oo> I'have change a kk.ttf , and how to apply it , without restart X ?
[03:26] <reisio> adamu: the DOD uses many awful things, including Windows
[03:26] <BuntuFuntu> adamu: It was great. :p
[03:26] <cfhowlett> wjtaylor, ask in #debian
[03:26] <wjtaylor> oops
[03:26] <BuntuFuntu> wjtaylor: This is #Ubuntu :P
[03:26] <reisio> iIlL10Oo: change? You didn't want to make a duplicate?
[03:26] <adamu> reisio, alright
[03:27] <iIlL10Oo> reisio: I have fc-cache -fv, but font in terminal did not change .
[03:27] <reisio> iIlL10Oo: how're you expecting it to change?
[03:27] <adamu> BuntuFuntu, Well at least he wasn't trying to install keyloggers for 16... thats pretty good :P
[03:27] <pero>  where can i get the actual extension for chromium's unity web apps? i've lost it and get it back it no matter what (reinstalling chromium-browser, unity-webapps-common, etc)
[03:27] <iIlL10Oo> reisio: I edit the font , use fontforge . and the font is applyed in chrome , but in terminal , I need restart X
[03:28] <BuntuFuntu> Lol true. I love using Ubuntu though
[03:28] <BuntuFuntu> It's fun and on small screens for me Unity bar is nice(:
[03:28] <reisio> iIlL10Oo: reading that it sounds like you know how to fix your problem
[03:28] <duhamel> hi all, i am trying to get the bluetooth to work on my hp laptop. i am running 13.10 with a ralink rt3290 that is showing up when i lspci. i have downloaded drivers. when i got to make i am getting error:error: ‘__mod_pci_device_table’ aliased to undefined symbol ‘rtbt_pci_ids
[03:28] <CADBOT> Anyone ever have a problem with Ubuntu booting to Purple, stalling, then having kernal panic on subsequent bootups?
[03:28] <iIlL10Oo> reisio: yes , how to apply my font without restartX
[03:28] <reisio> iIlL10Oo: ah
[03:29] <BuntuFuntu> Cadbot: I had a kernel panic once while installing. I attempted reinstallation again and it went without a hitch
[03:29] <reisio> iIlL10Oo: did you try ending all your X terminal processes?
[03:29] <iIlL10Oo> reisio: no
[03:29] <CADBOT> BuntuFuntu: Same thing happened after a dozen installs :/
[03:29] <iIlL10Oo> reisio: why need restart process ?
[03:29] <reisio> iIlL10Oo: wouldn't it be simpler to change the name of the font :p
[03:29] <reisio> that way you also wouldn't confuse the original for the modified
[03:30] <BuntuFuntu> Cadbot:  Is it an attempt to kill init or what?
[03:30] <_NerdyMe_> i have a problem, when trying to update the system as well when trying to upgrade, installing or deleting... i always get that strange error. somebody knows what to do?
[03:30] <iIlL10Oo> reisio: chrome is not restart , just close a page , and reopen a page
[03:30] <_NerdyMe_> Get:942 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/universe unity-webapps-launchpad all 2.4.16+13.10.20130924.2-0ubuntu1 [14.0 kB]
[03:30] <_NerdyMe_> Get:943 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/universe unity-webapps-twitter all 2.4.16+13.10.20130924.2-0ubuntu1 [10.2 kB]
[03:30] <_NerdyMe_> Get:944 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/universe unity-webapps-youtube all 2.4.16+13.10.20130924.2-0ubuntu1 [25.8 kB]
[03:30] <_NerdyMe_> Fetched 553 MB in 36min 32s (252 kB/s)
[03:30] <FloodBot1> _NerdyMe_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:30] <_NerdyMe_> Extracting templates from packages: 100%
[03:30] <reisio> iIlL10Oo: you said
[03:30] <BuntuFuntu> Does it say anything other then Kernel Panic?
[03:30] <BuntuFuntu> If it does that will help us greatly(:
[03:30] <duhamel> hi all, i am trying to get the bluetooth to work on my hp laptop. i am running 13.10 with a ralink rt3290 that is showing up when i lspci. i have downloaded drivers. when i got to make i am getting error:error: ‘__mod_pci_device_table’ aliased to undefined symbol ‘rtbt_pci_ids
[03:30] <iIlL10Oo> reisio: ok , I'll try
[03:31] <CADBOT> BuntuFuntu: It was a while back.  I was curious to get initial input. Later this week I can get some more exact screen caps
[03:31] <BuntuFuntu> Cadbot: Are you running Ubuntu now?
[03:31] <CADBOT> BuntuFuntu I believe there was failure to init or something like that
[03:31] <CADBOT> BuntuFuntu Not on this computer
[03:31] <_NerdyMe_> i have a problem, when trying to update the system as well when trying to upgrade, installing or deleting... i always get that strange error. somebody knows what to do? Preconfiguring packages ...
[03:31] <_NerdyMe_>  dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[03:31] <_NerdyMe_>   files list file for package `grub-common' contains empty filename
[03:31] <BuntuFuntu> CADBOT: what are you running?
[03:32] <CADBOT> I have one computer running ubuntu, and two running windows
[03:32] <CADBOT> I'm on a windows one atm
[03:32] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys if a kernel is not working for me, how can i make an offical report perhaps so people can work on it for later releases?
[03:32] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: der launchpadheimer
[03:33] <cfhowlett> !kernel
[03:33] <BuntuFuntu> 3 windows computers in this household. Mines the only one running Ubuntu
[03:33] <BuntuFuntu> !mainline kernel
[03:33] <BuntuFuntu> !mainline
[03:33] <Psil0Cybin> thanks
[03:33] <CADBOT> I'd like to get 2/3 on ubuntu
[03:33] <BuntuFuntu> Psilocybin: Have you tried a Mainline?
[03:33] <CADBOT> and the 3rd one when work comes out with it :D
[03:34] <BuntuFuntu> CADBOT: Hardware uncompatible on the 3rd?
[03:34] <CADBOT> I've installed ubuntu tons of times... never had this issue :/
[03:34] <Psil0Cybin> cant find where to report tho
[03:34] <Psil0Cybin> BuntuFuntu:
[03:34] <Psil0Cybin> im looking at the wiki now
[03:34] <CADBOT> BuntuFuntu It can boot from the live usb just fine
[03:34] <CADBOT> But then when I restart after the actual installation, it all goes down
[03:34] <BuntuFuntu> Which installation of ubuntu are you using on that one?
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> CADBOT, Can you state the issues in one post?
[03:35] <BuntuFuntu> !Canonical
[03:35] <CADBOT> I'll come back a little bit later with a more formatted report on the issue
[03:35] <CADBOT> Thanks!
[03:35] <BuntuFuntu> CADBOT: Which Ubuntu version are you using, latest?
[03:35] <BuntuFuntu> :o
[03:36] <duhamel> hi all, i am trying to get the bluetooth to work on my hp laptop. i am running 13.10 with a ralink rt3290 that is showing up when i lspci. i have downloaded drivers. when i got to make i am getting error:error: ‘__mod_pci_device_table’ aliased to undefined symbol ‘rtbt_pci_ids
[03:36] <BuntuFuntu> Duhamel: We've seen you post before. Please to hold on one second yes
[03:36] <JordanJ2> Is it possible to install Ubuntu (13.10) with secure boot and EUFI enabled?
[03:37] <BuntuFuntu> Duhamel: i may have found a solution to your problem.
[03:37] <duhamel> BuntuFuntu: thanks bro.
[03:38] <duhamel> for taking time to help me.
[03:38] <BuntuFuntu> Duhamel: rfkill  list
[03:38] <BuntuFuntu> Paste the results here.
[03:39] <duhamel> my bluetooth doesn't even show up when i do that
[03:39] <duhamel> rfkill list
[03:39] <duhamel> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[03:39] <duhamel> 	Soft blocked: no
[03:39] <duhamel> 	Hard blocked: no
[03:39] <BuntuFuntu> Hmm, so it is a combined wifi/bluetooth card yes?
[03:39] <duhamel> it could be.
[03:39] <_NerdyMe_> hi there, when trying to install any package i get this error: ... Preconfiguring packages ...
[03:39] <_NerdyMe_> dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[03:39] <_NerdyMe_>  files list file for package `grub-common' contains empty filename
[03:39] <_NerdyMe_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[03:40] <_NerdyMe_> somebody an idea what i could do?
[03:40] <duhamel> but its seperate in lspci so i don't think so
[03:40] <BuntuFuntu> Hmm.. Did you maybe blacklist native driver rt28000 pci>
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> _NerdyMe_, What is the context of this error?
[03:40] <BuntuFuntu> ?
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys if i want to report a bug of a kernel i would go to launchpad right?
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> to report them
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> !bug | Psil0Cybin
[03:41] <_NerdyMe_> i do sudo apt-get upgrade ... it download a bunch of stuff and when it comes to the "preconfigure..." etc then it throws that error.
[03:41] <duhamel> lspci: 01:00.2 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0a)
[03:41] <duhamel> 02:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[03:41] <duhamel> 02:00.1 Bluetooth: Ralink corp. RT3290 Bluetooth
[03:41] <cfhowlett> duhamel, PASTE!
[03:41] <cfhowlett> !paste
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> _NerdyMe_, Looks like you have a broken package, can you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin it
[03:42] <duhamel> cfhowlett: paste what?
[03:42] <BuntuFuntu> Duhamel: Please try this link and see if the commands work for you
[03:42] <cfhowlett> duhamel, stop putting output in this channel.  use the paste commands
[03:42] <cfhowlett> please
[03:42] <duhamel> how?
[03:42] <JordanJ2> wilee-nilee, Is it possible to install ubuntu with EUFI and Secure Boot on?
[03:42] <BuntuFuntu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2115570
[03:42] <cfhowlett> !paste
[03:43] <duhamel> in terminal?
[03:43] <BuntuFuntu> Duhamel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2115570 <--- Ralink rt 3290
[03:43] <cfhowlett> !pastebin
[03:44] <BuntuFuntu> Duhamel: Are you viewing the link?
[03:44] <duhamel> BuntuFuntu: that's where i got the driver. my issue is that when i go to make this driver in the makefile folder i am getting the error i posted before
[03:44] <BuntuFuntu> PM me the error.
[03:45] <babinlonston> HI  all , I'm Using Ubuntu 12.04 and now there is many updates installed , and there is many kernel updates too , how can i find the Currently using kernel and , how can i safely remove the old kernels ?
[03:45] <xangua> !uefi | jordan2
[03:45] <xangua> JordanJ2: you have been asking the same for several hourse and have been said many times the answer is no
[03:45] <duhamel> i know that i need to install the rt3290 driver i just cant make it therefor i can't make install
[03:45] <BuntuFuntu> Hmm... You can't make install?
[03:45] <JordanJ2> Oh ok.
[03:46] <JordanJ2> Sorry for the bother xangua
[03:46] <duhamel> i cant make
[03:46] <BuntuFuntu> ~/Downloads/rtbth_v3.9.3/rtbth_v3.9.3$ sudo make install make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop. <-- that the error?
[03:46] <xangua> babinlonston: an app useful for that task is ubuntu-tweak
[03:46] <orbisvicis> apt picks the newest (highest numbered) package by default even though the repository containing the older package is first. How do I blacklist or otherwise prevent the newest package from being picked
[03:46] <duhamel> no. not make install just make
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, uname -a will name the kernel your on.
[03:47] <BuntuFuntu> So compiling does not go well?
[03:47] <duhamel> halfway through make i get error: ‘__mod_pci_device_table’ aliased to undefined symbol ‘rtbt_pci_ids
[03:47] <babinlonston> xangua: no i need to remove in command line manually ..
[03:47] <zykotick9> babinlonston: i believe there is some tool for ubuntu that makes removing old kernels easier (sorry i don't know which one it is).  You can use "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" to like your installed kernels (and simply manually uninstall the ones you don't need anymore)
[03:47] <zykotick9> s/like/list/
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, dpkg -l | grep linux-image  to see kernels then sudo apt-get purge
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:48] <duhamel> http://askubuntu.com/questions/324115/ralink-bluetooth-not-working-in-ubuntu-13-04 i tried everything i thought necessary in this thread
[03:48] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee: Linux system99 3.2.0-54-generic #82-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 20:08:42 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, and?
[03:49] <duhamel> ive been reading the forums for a day and a half
[03:49] <JordanJ2> If I can't install Ubuntu with Secure Boot, Can I move windows 8 to Legacy?
[03:49] <babinlonston> dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[03:50] <_NerdyMe_> the error i mentioned you find at the end of the paste. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6403325/  """ files list file for package `grub-common' contains empty filename"""
[03:50] <BuntuFuntu> Duhamel: Rest assured your problem wll be solved. The community is committed to ensuring the Ubuntu experience is smooth for everyone((:
[03:50] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee:  let me check using purge ;)
[03:51] <RottNKorpse> has anyone used getmail? it downloads email from gmail. http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, Only purge kernels you are not using and keep at least two sets.
[03:51] <babinlonston> ok
[03:52] <duhamel> BuntuFuntu: i know. that's why i came here from windows a few years ago.  thanks all
[03:53] <qwerty1793> hi, I'm running a program on 12.04 which is ram intensive, if I monitor its ram usage using top then when it gets to ~80% the entire computer freezes for ~1minute (like I can't even drag windows around) and then it springs back to life with ~60% being used. Is this the swap disk kicking in?
[03:55] <curatrix> qwerty1793: most likely, yes
[03:56] <qwerty1793> curatrix: is there a way that I can make it less of a 'jolt'? while this happens the entire of ubuntu freezes
[03:57] <curatrix> not really. .....if you are sharing memory with the GPU, you might want to fiddle with the driver settings to make the graphics less resource intensive
[03:58] <curatrix> alternatively ...you could try a lightweight desktop like xfce
[03:58] <martinlemaitre> Can someone give me a hand installing something i downloaded
[03:58] <martinlemaitre> im an ubuntu newb
[03:58] <cfhowlett> qwerty1793, if possible, login to terminal and execute the command from there?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> martinlemaitre,  no details, no answer
[03:59] <martinlemaitre> i have maple 13 and all i have is a bunch of .bin and .rar files
[03:59] <martinlemaitre> whatever those ar
[03:59] <martinlemaitre> i gotta wanna installing it
[03:59] <qwerty1793> cfhowlett: I'm doing some large computations in the sage math library so it's all going through a terminal at the minute
[03:59] <cfhowlett> martinlemaitre, the download site should tell you how to install the program
[03:59] <martinlemaitre> thres nothing
[03:59] <curatrix> martinlemaitre: What program are you trying to install and is there a .deb version available
[03:59] <curatrix> ?
[03:59] <martinlemaitre> i dont get it from the site
[04:00] <martinlemaitre> i dont know what a .deb version is but this is the only one...
[04:00] <cfhowlett> martinlemaitre, so where did you get it then?
[04:00] <martinlemaitre> how install the files
[04:00] <martinlemaitre> ?
[04:00]  * curatrix cant find his crystal ball
[04:00] <martinlemaitre> from a CD my friend gave me
[04:01] <qwerty1793> curatrix: I'm doing some large computations in the sage math library so it's all going through a terminal at the minute - there's should be little overhead from the desktop
[04:01] <pirret> martinlemaitre: learn to use google: http://www.maplesoft.com/support/install/maple13_install.html#Linux_Install
[04:01] <martinlemaitre> he make it on hes own
[04:01] <cfhowlett> martinlemaitre, and HE didn't tell you how to install?
[04:01] <martinlemaitre> ya pirret how do i run the bin
[04:01] <martinlemaitre> im a windows man
[04:01] <martinlemaitre> no he is a butt head
[04:01] <curatrix> what program is it?
[04:01] <cfhowlett> martinlemaitre, but you're going to install his program
[04:01] <martinlemaitre> maple 13
[04:02] <martinlemaitre> its not hes program he didnt made it
[04:02] <cfhowlett> !maple
[04:02] <martinlemaitre> ya i dont know how to follow that stuff so im asking u sorry
[04:02] <martinlemaitre> how do i run installing a bin?
[04:02] <cfhowlett> martinlemaitre, if you can't follow written instructions from, nothing I can.  out.
[04:02] <martinlemaitre> please respond
[04:03] <martinlemaitre> well im sorry im not as technical as guy as u im 51 years old
[04:03] <martinlemaitre> tryin to get this program for my son
[04:03] <sman6pbm> how to quick share internet conection by ubuntu 12.o4
[04:04] <curatrix> martinlemaitre: Have you considered use a similar -free- program from the repo?
[04:04] <cfhowlett> martinlemaitre, first you're 15, now you're 51?  dude.  choose a lie, stick with it.
[04:04] <martinlemaitre> no i got this program and its files and i want some help!
[04:04] <cfhowlett> !maple|martinlemaitre,
[04:04] <martinlemaitre> where do i said im 15?
[04:05] <martinlemaitre> im not a technical guy jus tlookin for a little help tis operating system is soo confusing
[04:05] <martinlemaitre> been a miner for 26 years so not ever know much about the computer heh heh
[04:05] <martinlemaitre> ubottu that aint even for te right version man get it to gether
[04:05] <martinlemaitre> ur not!
[04:05] <martinlemaitre> ovviously
[04:06] <martinlemaitre> so none of u know
[04:06] <martinlemaitre> how to install a bin file
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !attitude
[04:06]  * curatrix puts martinlemaitre on ignore
[04:06] <martinlemaitre> im not a technical wizard like u guys ar
[04:07] <martinlemaitre> not a hacker or any thing
[04:07] <martinlemaitre> so whos gonna help papa
[04:08] <orbisvicis> apt seems to be ignoring my /etc/apt/preferences, any ideas?
[04:08] <BuntuFuntu> martinlemaitre: You will not get help from me until your attitude changes.
[04:08] <martinlemaitre> attitude about what ? im tryna be nice
[04:08] <sam113101> sounds inviting
[04:08] <martinlemaitre> id help u if i knew all about the internet
[04:08] <orbisvicis> i think I may be getting the origin tag of my local repository wrong
[04:08] <martinlemaitre> if u want some help with mining i can help with that heh heh heh :)
[04:09] <orbisvicis> anyone know who to show details of a local repository ?
[04:09] <orbisvicis> *how
[04:09] <martinlemaitre> ye go in the terminal and type /showdetailsoflocalrepository
[04:09] <babinlonston> wow there are , 5 4 kernels and 3 removed and 2 not including Generic ... Successfully Working after a restart ...
[04:09] <martinlemaitre> heh heh :)
[04:09] <cfhowlett> !behelpful
[04:10] <martinlemaitre> yea listen to ubottu!
[04:10] <Paulus68_1> martinlemaitre: if you want to contribute and help people just make usefull comments instead of *stupid* onces
[04:11] <martinlemaitre> heh heh alls i asked was how to run install a bin file
[04:11] <martinlemaitre> aint nobody tryna help me!
[04:11] <cfhowlett> !patience
[04:11] <martinlemaitre> i wait any longer im gonna die!
[04:11] <martinlemaitre> i only got but 10 years kickin round!
[04:11] <cfhowlett> martinlemaitre, http://www.maplesoft.com/support/install/maple13_install.html#Linux_Install
[04:12] <martinlemaitre> or run Maple13Linux32Installer.bin from where you downloaded the file
[04:12] <martinlemaitre> i dont know how to do that heh hehe
[04:12] <martinlemaitre> plus i got a few of em! sun solaris...linux x86...x32.... heh heh..dont know what those are
[04:12] <pirret> :D
[04:12] <cfhowlett> martinlemaitre, the exact instructions are there.  read and follow.  no one is going to climb through the internet to do it for you.
[04:13] <pirret> i will if you pay me enough...
[04:13] <martinlemaitre> heh i dont know how run that bin
[04:13] <martinlemaitre> heh heh
[04:13] <martinlemaitre> what dont u understand
[04:13] <martinlemaitre> heh heh
[04:13] <FloodBot1> martinlemaitre: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <martinlemaitre> i thought u were suppose to be smart!
[04:13] <martinlemaitre> heh heh
[04:13] <pirret> !maple
[04:14] <cfhowlett> martinlemaitre, save the insults.  try the solution.  stop flooding the channel with useless comments.
[04:14] <Paulus68_1> pirret: it's no use he's lost and doesn't even know it by himself
[04:14] <pirret> ok..
[04:14] <martinlemaitre> I DONT KNOW HOW TO RUN INSTALL A BIN FILE
[04:14] <martinlemaitre> WHAT DONT U UNDERSTAND
[04:14] <FloodBot1> martinlemaitre: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:14] <martinlemaitre> OH YEAH EVERYTHING APPARENTLY
[04:14] <martinlemaitre> heh heh
[04:15] <Paulus68_1> !caps|martinlemaitre
[04:15] <martinlemaitre> heh heh well why yall bein so difficult
[04:16] <Paulus68_1> martinlemaitre: we difficult I think that you don't even want to try out the solution that's provided by us and you start *bitching* arround like a 2 year old
[04:16] <martinlemaitre> paulus
[04:16] <martinlemaitre> HOW the HELL do i run a damn bin file installer?
[04:16] <martinlemaitre> that all im askin!
[04:16] <martinlemaitre> im tryna listen to u nerdy birdys but u aint listenin!
[04:17] <xangua> martinlemaitre: double clic
[04:17] <cfhowlett> !ops|martinlemaitre  attitude/insults
[04:17] <Diamondcite> A .bin install?
[04:17] <rrs_> lol martinlemaitre way to get an answer
[04:17] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre: 1. Do you know where the .bin is saved? 2. Do you know what a terminal is?
[04:18] <martinlemaitre> i double clicked it aint nothin worked!
[04:18] <martinlemaitre> im lookin at the bin file right now!
[04:18] <martinlemaitre> term-what?
[04:18] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre: Which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[04:19] <martinlemaitre> how do i know that?
[04:19] <martinlemaitre> im on the confusing one
[04:19] <martinlemaitre> heh heh
[04:19] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre: Err I see.. okay. On your left side do you see a bar with lots of icons?
[04:20] <martinlemaitre> yeh heh heh
[04:20] <martinlemaitre> lots of icons
[04:20]  * curatrix refuses to help people steal software
[04:20] <cfhowlett> ^^^\
[04:20] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre: Great, click on the top left one to bring up the menu, type in "Terminal" in the search and click on the icon with a > sign in it.
[04:20] <martinlemaitre> i got all kinds of icons
[04:20]  * Paulus68_1 refuses to help people that doesn't want to be helped at all
[04:20] <martinlemaitre> alright i got the terminal
[04:21] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre: Now I ask, do you know where the file is? did you just download it?
[04:21] <martinlemaitre> yea im lookin at it
[04:21] <martinlemaitre> theres x32 x86 and sun solaris
[04:21] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre: You need to get it to from the terminal. to somehting like "cd Downloads" if that is where it is.
[04:22] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre: The folder/directory names are case sensitive.
[04:23] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre:  I am assuming the bin file itself is some kind of linux executable like certain installers by the way.
[04:23] <martinlemaitre> its in Downloads -> Maple
[04:23] <MVanDruff> good evening i am in need of assistance
[04:23] <martinlemaitre> 13
[04:23] <cfhowlett> MVanDruff, details ...
[04:23] <curatrix> MVanDruff: Just ask your question
[04:23] <Diamondcite> Once you actually find the file and change in the folder with 'cd' try: sh filename.bin
[04:24] <IdleOne> Diamondcite: probably going to need to chmod +x first
[04:24] <MVanDruff> i am not sure why i am getting this issue http://pastebin.com/FRSaQUHv
[04:24] <martinlemaitre> u confusin me
[04:24] <martinlemaitre> it says
[04:24] <Diamondcite> IdleOne: Really? The sh command usually runs scripts even those not marked +x
[04:24] <martinlemaitre> Maple13Linux32Installer.bin
[04:25] <IdleOne> Diamondcite: hmm, good point
[04:25] <xangua> MVanDruff: what ubuntu release are you using¿
[04:26] <MVanDruff> oh boy its been a while since i updated
[04:26] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre: .. did you try "sh Maple13Linux32Installer.bin" ?
[04:27] <MVanDruff> i am using xubuntu and i am afraid i have forgotten how to check the release
[04:27] <xangua> MVanDruff: lsb_release -a
[04:27] <cfhowlett> MVanDruff, terminal lsb_release -a
[04:27] <xangua> MVanDruff: and you are probably using a no longer supported release
[04:28] <martinlemaitre> saysa cant open Diamondcite
[04:28] <MVanDruff> 12.04
[04:28] <MVanDruff> how far behind am i?
[04:28] <cfhowlett> 12.04 is Long Term Support so you're good
[04:28] <xangua> MVanDruff: not very much, it's the current LTS
[04:29] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre: Why can't it open? usually gives a little more detailed message.
[04:29] <IdleOne> MVanDruff: have you tried changing which server you get updates from? Go into Software Center and you can change the server in the settings there.
[04:30] <xangua> MVanDruff: try to reload your repositories again, i got confused because it says it want to download firefox 19
[04:30] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre: Can you please do a "file /usr/bin/ls" and tell if you see either 32 or 64 ?
[04:31] <martinlemaitre> says no such bin or directory
[04:31] <martinlemaitre> no such file or directory oops
[04:31] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre: Err type "which ls" as in LS in lower case
[04:31] <gr33n7007h> martinlemaitre, drag Maple file into the terminal and paste it's directory
[04:31] <martinlemaitre> bin/ls
[04:31] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre: Then try "file /bin/ls"
[04:32] <martinlemaitre> or run Maple13Linux32Installer.bin from where you downloaded the file
[04:32] <martinlemaitre> oops
[04:32] <martinlemaitre> '/home/martin/Downloads/Maple 13/Maple13LinuxX86_64Installer.bin' ^C
[04:32] <martinlemaitre> '/home/martin/Downloads/Maple 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin'
[04:32] <MVanDruff> xangua: everything is checked on in my settings
[04:32] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre: I don't know which one you have anymore...
[04:32] <martinlemaitre> wat ya mean
[04:32] <gr33n7007h> martinlemaitre, type ./home/martin/Downloads/Maple 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin
[04:33] <gr33n7007h> martinlemaitre, type ./home/martin/Downloads/Maple\ 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin
[04:33] <Diamondcite> martinlemaitre: My intent is to see if you have the right version of the installer for your system is it a 64 or 32bit ubuntu install
[04:33] <MVanDruff> ah ha i found what you were talking about lets see what happens now
[04:33] <martinlemaitre> pemrission denied
[04:33] <martinlemaitre> is it the government blockin me out>
[04:33] <martinlemaitre> now that im doin all this hackin stuff
[04:33] <gr33n7007h> martinlemaitre, do this first chmod +x /home/martin/Downloads/Maple 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin
[04:34] <martinlemaitre> no such file or directory
[04:34] <gr33n7007h> martinlemaitre, do this first chmod +x /home/martin/Downloads/Maple\ 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin
[04:34] <gr33n7007h> forget the backslash
[04:34] <martinlemaitre> aint nothin happen
[04:35] <martinlemaitre> martin@martin-ThinkPad-T400:~$ chmod +x /home/martin/Downloads/Maple\ 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin
[04:35] <gr33n7007h> thats good, now type ./home/martin/Downloads/Maple\ 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin
[04:36] <martinlemaitre> martin@martin-ThinkPad-T400:~$ ./home/martin/Downloads/Maple\ 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin bash: ./home/martin/Downloads/Maple 13/Maple13Linux32Installer.bin: No such file or directory
[04:36] <gr33n7007h> type cd ~/Downloads
[04:36] <martinlemaitre> ye got dollar signs now
[04:37] <gr33n7007h> type ./Maple13Linux32Installer.bin
[04:37] <martinlemaitre> no such file or directory
[04:38] <Diamondcite> Forgot abut the Maple\ 13 folder.
[04:38] <cfhowlett> gr33n7007h, he didn't download the files.
[04:38] <martinlemaitre> ye i did ya butt head
[04:38] <martinlemaitre> lookin at em right now
[04:38] <gr33n7007h> sorry type cd Maple\ 13/
[04:38] <martinlemaitre> u want a screnshot
[04:38] <Paulus68_1> !attitude|martinlemaitre
[04:38] <cfhowlett> martinlemaitre, oh so you DIDN'T get them from a friend?  choose a lie and stick with it
[04:38] <gr33n7007h> martinlemaitre, sorry type cd Maple\ 13/
[04:39] <martinlemaitre> martin@martin-ThinkPad-T400:~/Downloads/Maple 13$
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> Don't enable
[04:39] <gr33n7007h> type ./Maple13Linux32Installer.bin
[04:39] <martinlemaitre> PREPARIN TO INSTALL BABBY!
[04:39] <martinlemaitre> thank u internet hackers!
[04:40] <Paulus68_1> !caps|martinlemaitre
[04:40] <martinlemaitre> thanks for helpin me install stolen software hahaha! good job hackers!!
[04:42]  * curatrix looks for Corban Dallas
[04:43] <Paulus68_1> !piracy|martinlemaitre
[04:43] <babinlonston> Cool Created a Document too for removing the kernel.. thanks mates
[04:45] <sr20dett> Is it possible to see voltages coming in from a mic or set of headphone plugged into the 3.5 audio jack or can you only hear the audio coming out?
[04:45] <beardtree> Hi, how do I check which /etc files differ from the package maintainer's version?
[04:46] <curatrix> sr20dett: You can ....but usually you use a discriminator to interface the sound input(aux in   or mic
[04:47] <jmgk> Anyone tried Xchat?
[04:47] <jmgk> is it crashing ?
[04:47] <cfhowlett> !anyone|jmgk,
[04:47] <jmgk> oh
[04:47] <jmgk> Xchat is crashing for me all the time on Ubuntu 13.10
[04:47] <sr20dett> I want to get a voltage from a headphone after i epoxy the coil windings so they dont move or pick up sound
[04:48] <curatrix> sr20dett:  Please clarify
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> jmgk, try #xchat
[04:52] <duhamel> hello all, i was just in here having trouble compiling my ralink rt3290 bluetooth driver. i got it to work by downloading file with source code and building and installing manually. thank you to all that helped me out.
[04:52] <jmgk> thanks wilee-nilee
[04:52] <sr20dett> I need to use coil windings such as speaker or headphones to pick up magnetic or electric pulses and then use the app to count the pulses. The epoxy is to keep the coil from moving and picking up sound
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> jmgk, You could start it from the cli and look for the errors when it crashes.
[04:53] <cfhowlett> sr20dett, not an ubuntu problem then ...
[04:53] <jmgk> ah
[04:53] <jmgk> :)
[04:53] <jmgk> Good idea i'll report them if i get them
[04:54] <sr20dett> Well i need to know if the driver supports this or just sound
[04:54] <sr20dett> I was just seeing if anyone had an idea
[04:54] <sr20dett> Or maybe a direction to look
[04:54] <jmgk> thanks again guys
[05:00] <datapolitical> why is python3.3 not available in 12.04 on canonical?
[05:00] <curatrix> sr20dett: Have a look at xoscope in the repository .......I'm still looking
[05:02] <cfhowlett> datapolitical, packages are brought into the official repo at their own time.  if you need 3.3, install it manually.
[05:04] <curatrix> sr20dett:  Also have a look at "Spek" ...it is more of an audio analyzer but it may do what your after
[05:07] <manmohan> i have a problem in java plugin for icewistel
[05:07] <manmohan> http://pastebin.com/8X1QFE6N
[05:07] <manmohan> i have multiple versions of java
[05:08] <wolter> I just installed 13.10. Using nouveau but I only have 640 resolution, can somebody help me?
[05:08] <manmohan> how to remove  unusefull version
[05:08] <wolter> (Am I using mir?)
[05:08] <babinlonston> http://www.linuxmental.com/
[05:08] <jmgk> hi manmohan
[05:09] <manmohan> hi how r u?
[05:09] <manmohan> plz solve my problem
[05:09] <jmgk> hm
[05:09] <jmgk> qwll
[05:09] <jmgk> I'd suggest deleting the old versions
[05:10] <manmohan> i am truing #apt-get purge <old version > but it is not deleting
[05:10] <jmgk> hm
[05:12] <manmohan> actually i wanta applet running in my browser
[05:12] <manmohan> as of now i have only one version
[05:12] <manmohan> let i show you the result of dpkg -l | grep jdk
[05:12] <Hai_Karate> apt-get --purge remove <file>
[05:13] <komakino> Hi! Quick question: are there any other shells besides Unity with HUD support?
[05:13] <manmohan> http://pastebin.com/san8tnqU
[05:14] <jmgk> manmohan:  got the msg?
[05:15] <manmohan> which one?
[05:15] <manmohan> i did't
[05:15] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/appmenu-runner-hud-like-functionality.html komakino
[05:17] <firespeaker> I broke some packages and now when I boot normally it "hangs" after loading cups
[05:18] <firespeaker> I fixed the package manager issues, but the problem remains
[05:18] <firespeaker> (it doesn't really hang, it just doesn't let me do anything other than change terminals and make newlines)
[05:18] <manmohan> jmgk are you there?
[05:18] <jmgk> yes hi
[05:18] <komakino> xangua, Thanks. I suddenly realize i got the terms mixed up. What i'm looking for are other shells with global menu.
[05:19] <xangua> komakino: kde also has them, i believe gnome shell has a plugin too (only for gtk apps)
[05:19] <komakino> I kinda like gnome-shell But there is a deal breaker; the reeeeally ugly task list.
[05:21] <curatrix> What do mean by global menu?
[05:22] <komakino> curatrix, It's when the shell grabs the applications menu and puts it in the panel.
[05:23] <datapolitical> cfhowlett: you mean that each package gets added to the version depending on when it's needed (some packages are added even well after the ubuntu version is released {my partner is asking this})
[05:24] <curatrix> komakino: I might be missing something here but as far as I know ....they all do
[05:25] <komakino> curatrix, No, only Unity, afaik. Like http://goo.gl/gQ4vAv
[05:27] <zykotick9> Hai_Karate: fyi, you can save yourself some typing by using "apt-get purge foo"
[05:28] <cfhowlett> datapolitical, no.  each package is "certified" (inexact term, but low on coffee) and added to the repo when all the necessary dependency/plugin/work is complete.  so it's not unusual to see a lag on a specific package and its appearance in the ubuntu repos
[05:28] <Hai_Karate> thanks
[05:29] <curatrix> komakino: Do you mean a menu bar that has all the applications (an icon each) in it?
[05:30] <komakino> curatrix, No, look at the top of the screenshot. The unity panel grabs the terminal applications menu.
[05:31] <curatrix> komakino: Yeah ....they all can do it.
[05:31] <komakino> curatrix, Ok, how do you make gnome-shell do it?
[05:36] <curatrix> Which shell?  G2 G3  .....fwiw   unity is a gnome shell
[05:39] <phong_> hi all
[05:39] <reisio> hey phong
[05:40] <phong_> how to setup vnc for ubuntu?
[05:40] <phong_> i need to be able to remote desktop
[05:41] <reisio> phong_: last time I checked, you could enable the VNC server from the system prefs
[05:42] <phong_> don't know man
[05:42] <phong_> reisio, help?
[05:43] <cfhowlett> !vnc
[05:43] <reisio> phong_: try the cog at top right, then system settings
[05:44] <Humean> Hi, can I use Disk Utility on a livecd?
[05:44] <firespeaker> what's /var/run/utmp?
[05:44] <Humean> and if so where the heck is it
[05:44] <reisio> Humean: what're you trying to do?
[05:45] <Humean> trying to do a S.M.A.R.T. check on a disk the windows installation of which is fucked
[05:45] <Humean> just to make sure the disk isn't
[05:45] <phong_> reisio, i'm at system setting what next?
[05:45] <reisio> Humean: http://www.sysresccd.org/ though smart is a waste of time
[05:45] <reisio> phong_: look for something to do with vnc or remote admin
[05:46] <phong_> reisio, dont see
[05:46] <Humean> ok but I already have an ubuntu livecd in
[05:46] <reisio> Humean: so use that
[05:46] <Humean> where's the disk utility though
[05:46] <Paulus68_1> phong_: you can also use teamviewer http://teamviewer.com
[05:46] <Humean> like I'm literally too dumb to find it
[05:47] <reisio> firespeaker: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Security-HOWTO/file-security.html
[05:47] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utmp
[05:47] <reisio> Humean: 'disk utility', is that what Mac OS calls it?
[05:47] <Humean> I thought that's what ubuntu calls it
[05:47] <Humean> what does ubuntu call it if not that
[05:48] <Humean> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/saucy/gnome-disk-utility/
[05:48] <phong_> Paulus68_1, ?
[05:48] <reisio> _gnome_ disk utility, maybe :p
[05:48] <phong_> Paulus68_1, i know TV can do it..but just curious how to get the VNC
[05:48] <reisio> Humean: smartmontools
[05:48] <reisio> waste of time, though
[05:48] <firespeaker> reisio: ah
[05:48] <firespeaker> reisio: what if the file doesn't exist?
[05:49] <Humean> reisio, so what's not a waste of time?
[05:49] <reisio> firespeaker: what if someone bakes a pizza
[05:50] <Paulus68_1> phong_: it was just a thought
[05:50] <reisio> Humean: if you don't have more than one copy of data you care about?
[05:50] <firespeaker> reisio: what controls the file
[05:50] <reisio> Humean: make another copy
[05:50] <Humean> I did that
[05:50] <firespeaker> and what would make it not exist
[05:50] <Humean> ok I'm out then
[05:51] <reisio> firespeaker: dunno, probably shadow
[05:53] <reisio> firespeaker: maybe if nobody's logged in
[05:53] <firespeaker> reisio: do you know what package that is?
[05:53] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys i need help i upgraded my linux kernel and am having problems with my display (I get a blackscreen 95 percent of the time i resstart or i get into the text console) I posted a full link here to my symtoms and my log files
[05:53] <Psil0Cybin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2187136
[05:54] <firespeaker> reisio: aah, okay
[05:54] <Psil0Cybin> i also posted https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250298 could someone perhaps help me
[05:54] <Psil0Cybin> diagnose this problem
[05:54] <reisio> firespeaker: shadow? Is 'login' or something on Debian systems
[05:54] <Psil0Cybin> i also tried different parameters such as nomodeset
[05:54] <reisio> firespeaker: if that's indeed the relevant package
[05:54] <reisio> firespeaker: #linux would know
[05:55] <firespeaker> why might the runlevel command be complaining that /var/run/utmp doesn't exist?
[05:55] <cfhowlett> humid, boot the live cd.  mount your hdd.  do your changes
[05:56] <reisio> firespeaker: does it exist?
[05:57] <firespeaker> it doesn't
[05:57] <firespeaker> the question is why would runlevel rely on something that requires someone to be logged on to exist
[05:58] <reisio> well, that's another question :p
[05:59] <firespeaker> it's what I was getting at with the first question
[05:59] <reisio> first?
[05:59] <firespeaker> previous
[06:00] <reisio> previous?
[06:00] <firespeaker> the previous question
[06:00] <reisio> pardon?
[06:00] <firespeaker> nothing
[06:00] <crypt0queen[L]> join #linux
[06:00] <crypt0queen[L]> oops mt
[06:00] <firespeaker> my question stands
[06:00] <neil02> I am having lots of trouble getting the tftpd-hpa to work ... it installed find ... but it doesn't seem to start... netstat shows nothing... can anyone help?
[06:00] <reisio> which question?
[06:01] <firespeaker> (00:57:23) firespeaker: the question is why would runlevel rely on something that requires someone to be logged on to exist
[06:01] <firespeaker> (00:58:06) reisio: well, that's another question :p
[06:01] <reisio> firespeaker: it's hard to imagine the answer to that question being particularly useful
[06:01] <reisio> either it requires it or it doesn't
[06:01] <firespeaker> maybe
[06:02] <reisio> if you find out why it requires it, you know why it requires it
[06:02] <firespeaker> you suggested it might
[06:02] <reisio> I'm going to suggest there's some reason we're talking about utmp :p
[06:03] <firespeaker> yeah, I'm working on stepping back and figuring out what I'm really asking
[06:03] <reisio> :)
[06:04] <firespeaker> so I'm trying to figure out why xorg loads the right driver within chroot when I boot off a live cd but tries to load a vesa driver when I boot off that fs
[06:04] <Psil0Cybin> bah this kernel is driving me nuts with this blackscreen of nonsense :P time for a beer so i can relax and destress.
[06:04] <firespeaker> Psil0Cybin: that sounds familiar...
[06:04] <Psil0Cybin> when all else fails you have booze :)
[06:05] <reisio> firespeaker: boot off?
[06:05] <Psil0Cybin> firespeaker: because i have been harrassing everyone here to help me all night lmaoo
[06:06] <firespeaker> reisio: as in, I'm running another OS off of external media, and am using chroot to access my main system
[06:06] <firespeaker> Psil0Cybin: more like they're harassing you
[06:07] <firespeaker> Psil0Cybin: stringent clinging to semantics and ignoring pragmatics is a good sign you're being trolled
[06:07] <reisio> firespeaker: what would that have to do with X?
[06:08] <firespeaker> reisio: that's the question
[06:08] <turtz> ubuntustudio & line6 ux2
[06:08] <firespeaker> starting X on the same file system from different OSes has different results
[06:08] <reisio> firespeaker: it is? :/...
[06:08] <Psil0Cybin> no no no im harassing them :P
[06:08] <Psil0Cybin> i have trigger floodbot 40+ times.
[06:08] <reisio> firespeaker: yes, well... different OSes, that doesn't tell you much
[06:09] <Psil0Cybin> gues just a quick question if i am a kernel behind the newest release that isnt like an emergency right?
[06:09] <firespeaker> right, well, I've been trying to track down what about them is leading to the difference
[06:09] <firespeaker> Psil0Cybin: that's fine
[06:09] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, absolutely not an emergency
[06:09] <firespeaker> Psil0Cybin: unless there's some major update
[06:09]  * cfhowlett orders a ninja hit squad to psil0Cybin's house immediately!
[06:10] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: that has definitely already been answered
[06:10] <reisio> maybe people are ignoring you because you're ignoring them
[06:10] <xmetal> eh? ... i was ignoring both of you
[06:10] <xmetal> :P
[06:11] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: :) which house is that...you mean the cave i call home in the mountin tops
[06:11] <Psil0Cybin> with my 3G stick?
[06:11] <Psil0Cybin> no dice. i win.
[06:11] <Psil0Cybin> catch me if you can.
[06:11] <Psil0Cybin> firespeaker: and thank you, so how long could i use an outdated kernel for lets say
[06:11] <Psil0Cybin> until there is a security breach of some sort?
[06:11] <reisio> even beyond that
[06:11] <Psil0Cybin> really?
[06:12] <reisio> until you can't
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> so why do people upgrade kernels?
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> i am soooo confused :)
[06:12] <reisio> it's good practice
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> thats it?
[06:12] <reisio> it's very good practice
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> so if i find a good kernel i could essencially stick to it
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> for ever?
[06:12] <reisio> but technically, after you install an OS
[06:12] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, kernels do come with improvements.  NOT having those improvements immediately is rarely fatal
[06:12] <firespeaker> Psil0Cybin: sometimes updates are important, sometimes you get nice features
[06:12] <reisio> you needn't ever modify it, ever
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> *sorry for poor spelling*
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> oh really...thats it?? I thought it was like an emergency to keep your system up to date
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> as soon as possible
[06:13] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, you were misinformed
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> thats why i have been freaking out
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> oh....okay.
[06:13] <reisio> it's more important for servers
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> oh wow
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[06:13] <cfhowlett> ^^^
[06:13] <reisio> but good practice for all systems
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> yea well i wannnt to keep my system up to date but this new kernel is just a no go for my gfx drivers
[06:13] <reisio> or anybody who wants FOO awful package like Flash to keep working
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> some ignore the obvious dufus
[06:13] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: did you try an even newER version yet?
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> stupid intel :(
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> no just what was given for LTS
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> by the sudo dist-upgrade
[06:14] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, good practice also means keeping at least one outdated but working kernel present on your system.
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> yup thats what im using
[06:14] <neil02> I am having lots of trouble getting the tftpd-hpa to work ... it installed find ... but it doesn't seem to start... netstat shows nothing, and there is nothing in syslog as to why... can anyone help?
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> i am using 3.2.0-55-generic-pae
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin>  but i want to use 3.2.0-56-generic-pae
[06:14] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, why?  if .55 works ...
[06:14] <firespeaker> Psil0Cybin: 3.2?  that's pretty old
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> because i thought it was needed for security reasons
[06:15] <Psil0Cybin> and yes its a old netbook
[06:15] <Psil0Cybin> :( lol
[06:15] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: i thought kernels keep your system secure from exploites on linux systems lets say
[06:15] <cfhowlett> neil02, that a server type thing?  maybe in #ubuntu-server    channel
[06:15] <reisio> please stop frowning, if we wanted to baby sit little girls, we'd /join #kindergarten
[06:15] <neil02> cfhowlett, maybe... I will try
[06:15] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, kernels have MANY uses and utilities
[06:15]  * ianorlin is using 3.11-12
[06:15] <firespeaker> Psil0Cybin: do you have intel gma 3150 series stuff, on an off chance?
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> firespeaker: what do u mean
[06:19] <Psil0Cybin> the intel is that in the additional drivers?
[06:19] <firespeaker> Psil0Cybin: I mean your graphics hardware
[06:22] <Psil0Cybin> yea i have both cedarview trail gfx and the intel enabed
[06:22] <Psil0Cybin> it gives me two to use.
[06:22] <firespeaker> interesting
[06:22] <Psil0Cybin> why is it odd that it gives me two?
[06:23] <Psil0Cybin> yea i have both drm driver for intel gma500 and intel cedarview graphic driver selected firespeaker
[06:23] <Psil0Cybin> i just checked.
[06:25] <firespeaker> Psil0Cybin: cool
[06:25] <Psil0Cybin> why did you say interesting is that bad? do you normally have just one?
[06:25] <firespeaker> Psil0Cybin: you can have whatever drivers you want installed
[06:27] <Psil0Cybin> oh okay i guess so it woudnt cause conflicts right?
[06:27] <Psil0Cybin> or it could and it all dpends on every different situation
[06:28] <firespeaker> Psil0Cybin: what's the problem?
[06:32] <Psil0Cybin> i have another question guys when u said i use 3.2 and its outdated
[06:32] <Psil0Cybin> what does that mean when that is the latest build i can get
[06:34] <reisio> https://kernel.org/ has the latest versions
[06:34] <reisio> the latest Ubuntu version will be a little lower than that
[06:34] <reisio> but only a little
[06:34] <reisio> and that's only for a new version
[06:35] <reisio> there are already 3.12 builds for Ubuntu
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> I gots 3.12 in the development
[06:37] <Psil0Cybin>  so why would someone want a new kernel as opposed to an old one?
[06:37] <firespeaker> omg seriously Psil0Cybin
[06:37] <Psil0Cybin> like if i cannot get the new kernel using dist-upgrade
[06:37] <Psil0Cybin> would i still get it?
[06:37] <firespeaker> we've been over this
[06:37] <firespeaker> 1. sometimes there are important improvements, 2. sometimes there are useful new features
[06:38] <reisio> for the same reason anyone would ever want anything new
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> street creds
[06:38] <firespeaker> there are always minor improvements here or there
[06:38] <reisio> wouldn't matter if there were
[06:38] <firespeaker> yeah, they probably don't affect most users
[06:39] <reisio> wouldn't matter if they did :)
[06:40] <firespeaker> reisio: specify the scope of "matter"
[06:40] <Psil0Cybin> okay sorry guys i am a slow learner, i am teaching my self everything from scratch :) i am new to linux, but i learn by asking questions sometimes over and over but to be honest everyone says something different so i ask incase someone else has something else to say but yes i appologize firespeaker
[06:41] <Psil0Cybin> I just want to make sure what ever I learn is right, I want to maintain my system properly, and learn how to use linux properly, i do not just want to sit by and idle as I have problems like some suggest just to remove the problematic kernel
[06:41] <reisio> firespeaker: no :p
[06:41] <wilee-nilee> Psil0Cybin, opinions with research are an better, research is the optimal really.
[06:42] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: updating is good, not updating is bad, not updating when updating breaks things is entirely sensible
[06:42] <wilee-nilee> opinions are subjective
[06:42] <Psil0Cybin> okay thats what i really wanted to know.
[06:42] <Psil0Cybin> reisio: thank you and thank you wilee-nilee .
[06:42] <Psil0Cybin> guess linux is just a very complicated O.S
[06:42] <Psil0Cybin> ;)
[06:43] <Psil0Cybin> and i have allllot to learn
[06:43] <pero> lay off the shrooms
[06:43] <wilee-nilee> it's easier to break is all
[06:43] <Psil0Cybin> shrooms has nothing to do with me learning how to use linux. pero but thanks for the heads up.
[06:43] <Psil0Cybin> ;)
[06:44] <wilee-nilee> "portabello is a good thing" Martha Stewart
[06:44] <Psil0Cybin> if anything i would say the shrooms gives me the special abilities that people usually crave.
[06:44] <Psil0Cybin> like my sexually good looks.
[06:44] <pero> arent mushrooms asexual?
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> !ot come on
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> !ot
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> this is a worldwide channel and has rules
[06:45] <pam> hey folks
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> very true.
[06:46] <justin_smith> how do I make the audio system initialize without a graphic login? I want the audio to work on a headless server
[06:46] <justin_smith> aplay does not find any devices if I ssh in, until I do a GUI login, then suddenly all the devices are visible
[06:47] <pam> Having a problem with my gf's desktop. running 10.04  After a few minutes the mouse freezes up and we have to restart the computer to get it workign again.  What can I do?
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> pam: does everything freeze up?
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> or just the mouse?
[06:48] <pam> just the mouse
[06:48] <Psil0Cybin> have you tried another mouse?
[06:48] <Psil0Cybin> could the wire perhaps be damanged?
[06:48] <pam> happens with every mouse
[06:48] <Psil0Cybin> okay interesting.
[06:50] <Psil0Cybin> pam: perhaps it is an issue with usb autosuspend?
[06:50] <Psil0Cybin> Try adding usbcore.autosuspend=0 to your boot command to disable autosuspend completely
[06:50] <pam> how do i do that?
[06:50] <pam> do I need to open a particular file?
[06:50] <Psil0Cybin> restart computer when you are in grub (see your kernel/linux option) hit E
[06:50] <Psil0Cybin> and add it above the last line
[06:50] <pam> ok thanks
[06:50] <Psil0Cybin> then hit CTRL+X
[06:51] <Psil0Cybin> and it will restart, if IT WORKS we will make it permanent (this option will only work for one restart)
[06:51] <Psil0Cybin> pam: i never tried this my self, i am new but i will learn with you ( i am googling and trying out options with you)
[06:52] <pam> ok brb
[06:54] <helmut_> Ein sonnigen guten Morgen an alle.
[06:54] <greyhatpython> hi how to install tor on Ubuntu 13.10 the bundle after install saying out of date and the ppa is not working too.
[06:54] <situ> How can I ssh as guest user into an ubuntu box ? It keeps asking me for a password when I do "ssh guest@hostname"
[06:55] <reisio> I wonder if the guest user even has a password, or even exists before the DM says so
[06:55] <r00ch> is it possible to VNC control a GDM login?
[06:55] <justin_smith> I bet guest has a no-remote restriction
[06:56] <reisio> r00ch: yup
[06:57] <r00ch> reisio, how? I'm using x11vnc and localhost:0
[06:57] <r00ch> reisio, that does not connect
[06:57] <reisio> I've done it with tigervnc
[06:57] <reisio> which has an X "module" that's prepped every time X starts
[06:58] <r00ch> useless
[06:59] <reisio> ikr
[06:59] <pam> psil0cybin: if this works how do I make this permanent?
[07:00] <reisio> pam: check /etc/default/grub
[07:00] <greyhatpython> hi how to install tor on Ubuntu 13.10 the bundle after install saying out of date and the ppa is not working too.
[07:01] <pam> reisio: how do I open that file?
[07:01] <reisio> pam: with a text editor, as root
[07:02] <pam> ie sudo edit /etc/default/grub ?
[07:02] <reisio> pam: add to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=, then sudo update-grub
[07:02] <xirre> Can anyone help me with a few things with Wine?
[07:02] <reisio> pam: yeah
[07:02] <reisio> xirre: no, but probably some ones can
[07:03] <pam> huh?
[07:03] <pam> reisio: kind of confused as to what i need to do
[07:03] <reisio> pam: edit /etc/default/grub
[07:03] <xirre> Alright. Well, I was wondering what I would need to install for an application called "BYOND". It's used for Game Development and also playing games.
[07:04] <reisio> pam: add the bit you want to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=
[07:04] <reisio> pam: then run sudo update-grub
[07:04] <Jordan_U> pam: Why are you still using Ubuntu 10.04?
[07:04] <xirre> How would I go about finding the necessary  software and drivers for Wine to make BYOND work?
[07:04] <reisio> pam: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[07:05] <reisio> xirre: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22byond%22%20site%3Aappdb.winehq.org
[07:05] <Jordan_U> pam: Ubuntu 10.04 is no longer supported on the Desktop. You should upgrade to 12.04, and the upgrade may end up fixing your problem.
[07:05] <r00ch> reisio, oh I figured it out
[07:05] <reisio> xirre: click version link in table, at left, on winehq listing page, there will frequently be notes
[07:05] <reisio> r00ch: gj
[07:05] <r00ch> reisio, -auth
[07:05] <r00ch> haha thanks
[07:06] <xirre> I already checked, Reisio. I installed quite a few drivers. Still not getting anywhere. It runs, but it doesn't load pass the start up screen.
[07:06] <xirre> It keeps saying "loading".
[07:07] <justin_smith> I fixed the audio issue - it was a permissions issue, to run audio without a GUI login I need to be root (or likely in some kind of audio group)
[07:07] <justin_smith> ciao
[07:07] <greyhatpython> hi please help me to install Tor on Ubuntu 13.10 the tor bundle after installing says out of date and the ppa is not working too.
[07:08] <pam> reisio: I see this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  how would I ad usbcore.autosuspend=0 ?  In other words...not sure how to append it to that command that is there
[07:08] <reisio> xirre: any particular version?
[07:08] <reisio> pam: splash" -> splash usbcore.autosuspend=0"
[07:08] <Jordan_U> pam: Did you see my message?
[07:08] <pam> thanks
[07:09] <pam> so like this then? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash usbcore.autosuspend=0"
[07:09] <reisio> yup
[07:09] <xirre> Wine version 1.6 and BYOND version 500.1217 (Latest and Stable)
[07:09] <Jordan_U> pam: It is insecure to be running a distribution whose software no longer gets security updates.
[07:09] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[07:09] <Psil0Cybin> pam then do
[07:09] <reisio> xirre: 500? :p
[07:09] <pam> thanks
[07:09] <Psil0Cybin> sudo update-grub
[07:10] <Psil0Cybin> or what ever it is
[07:10] <xirre> Yes. Why?
[07:10] <devilfish123_> I'm having issues where my keyboard gets stuck very often. Running 13.10. Any help?
[07:10] <xirre> Wine version 1.6 and BYOND version 500.1217.
[07:10] <devilfish123_> if i disconnect and reconenect my keyboard it fixes itself, but seems to get stuck again shortly
[07:10] <reisio> interesting
[07:10] <devilfish123_> keyboard works just fine on windows machine, it's just ubuntu
[07:10] <reisio> they have two versions, daft
[07:11] <reisio> xirre: try 4, as explained on the winehq page
[07:11] <reisio> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=10152
[07:11] <Psil0Cybin> Jordan_U: so anything bellow 12.04 should not be used?
[07:11] <pam> hopefully this works
[07:11] <Psil0Cybin> I am a little confused because people are still using 10
[07:12] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: Correct.
[07:12] <Psil0Cybin> okay.
[07:12] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: There are still people using 5.04, that doesn't make it a good idea :)
[07:12] <reisio> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[07:14] <Psil0Cybin> Jordan_U: so why would someone use something so out dated?
[07:14] <Psil0Cybin> because of lazyness? I just would never do that so i am super confused, why someone would leave the system that severly outdated?
[07:15] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: who do poeple still use xp?
[07:15] <reisio> laziness, ignorance, million terrible reasons
[07:15] <reisio> and maybe even one or two good ones
[07:15] <Psil0Cybin> well i guess i am just more paranoide and try to keep my system more secure then others.
[07:15] <Psil0Cybin> i just have an OCD about having an idea that someone can exploit my system
[07:16] <reisio> that's healthy, until it isn't :)
[07:16] <Psil0Cybin> i would rather stay up 3 weeks straight making sure then not knowing
[07:16] <Psil0Cybin> well it isnt haha
[07:16] <reisio> well that's not really healthy :p
[07:16] <Psil0Cybin> no it isnt :P
[07:16] <Paulus68_1> xp in offices still used since not all the applications required for their specific business is working on Win7/8
[07:16] <reisio> most people don't have data or a server that's more important than their health
[07:16] <Psil0Cybin> woowow Paulus68_1 i cant imagin doing that and holding anykind of sensative data.
[07:17] <Psil0Cybin> i have a question is everyone using 12.04 on the same kernel? or based on your version of ubuntu (32 bit or 64 bit) you might have different kernel versions?
[07:17] <Psil0Cybin> how does it work?
[07:18] <Paulus68_1> Psil0Cybin: in my case we are still working with xp since the specific software for this callcenter is buggy on win 7 machines
[07:18] <Psil0Cybin> like i mean unless you mannually change, if everyone by default runs sudo dist-upgrade, do they get the same version or how does it work? it picks it based on ...various factors?
[07:18] <reisio> most distro versions endure through a handful of kernel images made for that ersion
[07:18] <Psil0Cybin> interesting wow :)
[07:18] <reisio> and then you can of course fudge virtually any version you like in
[07:18] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: it depends on when you installed the kernel. 12.04 has 3.2 12.04.2 has 3.5 and 12.04.3 has 3.8     12.04.4 will have 3.11
[07:19] <Psil0Cybin> reisio: i have no money to go out and buy linux books, what do you recommend i read to teach me everything i need to know about linux security and maintaining a healthy system
[07:19] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: that's a black hole of information :)
[07:19] <xirre> reisio: BYOND v498 works and so does v440. Thanks. I can connect to my server and etc.
[07:19] <reisio> xirre: gj
[07:19] <th0r> Psil0Cybin: you might check out the linux documentation project....ltdp.org I think
[07:20] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security has some very basic documentation
[07:20] <th0r> Psil0Cybin: oops...tldp.org
[07:20] <Psil0Cybin> reisio: oh aha :P I just am sooo lost and i hate bugging you guys 24/7 about every nitty gritty question i cannot understand i really wish i could read like a guide online that would slowly teach me how to properly use linux
[07:20] <galabala> Yolo
[07:20] <galabala> Swag
[07:20] <Paulus68_1> Psil0Cybin: google is your friend if you like to have info about these subject and be creative
[07:20] <Psil0Cybin> thanks th0r and reisio :)
[07:20] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: try to keep in mind that a lot of Unix security is focused on people who may well be running a mission critical server for NASA and the NSA combined :p
[07:20] <reisio> for an ordinary desktop user, almost all of it is overkill
[07:20] <Psil0Cybin> yea but i sometimes have no idea what to google, i just wish i had material i could read that would teach me the steps of maintaining a proper system
[07:20] <Psil0Cybin> like i could google till im blue in the face and i still would be missing some crucial information
[07:21] <reisio> well if it was easy to absorb, there would be no system exploitation :)
[07:21] <galabala> YoLo
[07:21] <reisio> :)
[07:21] <th0r> Psil0Cybin: on tldp check out the System Administrators Guide and the Network Administrators Guide.
[07:21] <Psil0Cybin> reisio: so i want to learn how to be as secure as any three letter agency:) if that is proper praticce.
[07:21] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: there are worse goals
[07:21] <Psil0Cybin> i dont wnat to be over paranoid but i wt to be safe and feel secure
[07:22] <Psil0Cybin> i dunno just dont want to get into bad linux habits
[07:22] <Psil0Cybin> thats all
[07:22] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: you really just need to be up-to-date, configure your firewall, and encrypt sensitive data
[07:22] <Psil0Cybin> if i learn how to do something , i want to learn properly. :)
[07:22] <Psil0Cybin> well i am up to date othe then my god darn kernel so
[07:22] <reisio> unfortunately the kernel matters :)
[07:22] <reisio> but for example
[07:23] <reisio> the last big kernel vuln had to do with getting root when you were just a user
[07:23] <reisio> which is really only useful to someone who has ssh'd into your box somehow
[07:23] <Psil0Cybin> well that would worry me
[07:23] <reisio> most desktops don't even need sshd running all the time
[07:23] <reisio> even though it's useful
[07:23] <Psil0Cybin> i would hate to have a security issue like that :(
[07:23] <Psil0Cybin> yea that is true
[07:24] <reisio> and on top of that
[07:24] <reisio> for most desktop boxes, your user has access to all your truly important data, your personal data, already
[07:24] <Psil0Cybin> that is true
[07:25] <Psil0Cybin> but still root can keep settings changed in the system
[07:25] <reisio> so the exploit wouldn't actually have gotten them anything they wouldn't already have had after figuring out how to access your user account
[07:25] <Psil0Cybin> all my personal data is already encrypted
[07:25] <reisio> which is not necessarily a simple feat
[07:25] <reisio> just try to keep it in perspective :)
[07:25] <Psil0Cybin> thats true actually
[07:25] <Psil0Cybin> your making alot of sense reisio thank you
[07:25] <reisio> go outside every now and then and make that vitamin d :)
[07:25] <Psil0Cybin> for your perspective.
[07:26] <Psil0Cybin> hahha i am outside all the time. i work (have a dog, have a gf that i drive around everywhere ) linux is my time to shine
[07:26] <Psil0Cybin> :)
[07:26] <Psil0Cybin> my private time haha
[07:26] <reisio> heheh
[07:26] <reisio> k
[07:26] <Psil0Cybin> i just find it super interesting, i hate windows compared to linux
[07:26] <reisio> don't we all
[07:26] <Psil0Cybin> windows i a lazy mans machine linux is for people whoalways want to learn
[07:26] <Psil0Cybin> and i love learning
[07:26] <reisio> I don't know
[07:26] <Psil0Cybin> if only i went back n time 5 years id go to college for linux
[07:26] <Psil0Cybin> sadly i did not
[07:26] <reisio> I think the OS you have to spend less time reinstalling and rebooting is more for a lazy person :)
[07:27] <reisio> I've done one reinstall since 2005
[07:27] <Psil0Cybin> wow
[07:27] <reisio> because I switched from x86 to amd64
[07:27] <Psil0Cybin> that is amazing
[07:27] <reisio> and that basically requires a reinstall
[07:27] <Psil0Cybin> so if your system the most up to date?
[07:27] <reisio> not using Ubuntu, but technically one could have :p
[07:27] <Psil0Cybin> what version are you using reisio ?
[07:28] <reisio> no, I reboot for the usual things, kernel updates
[07:28] <reisio> though if you were bored enough you could get into kexec or ksplice to avoid even that
[07:28] <Psil0Cybin> wow
[07:28] <Psil0Cybin> i did not know that
[07:28] <reisio> so you have a critical server
[07:28] <reisio> and someone finds an exploit to the kernel
[07:29] <meteors2313> hello
[07:29] <reisio> you can patch it and start it without rebooting all the systems
[07:29] <reisio> meteors2313: 'lo
[07:29] <Psil0Cybin> no way really?!
[07:29] <Psil0Cybin> reisio:
[07:29] <Psil0Cybin> linux is incredible....and mind blowing
[07:29] <reisio> pretty much
[07:29] <Psil0Cybin> that is actually nuts
[07:29] <Psil0Cybin> why do people even use windows for a server?
[07:29] <reisio> ignorance :)
[07:30] <Psil0Cybin> Like i am going into Health and Datamangement and sadly they use Windows
[07:30] <Psil0Cybin> server
[07:30] <Psil0Cybin> it blows my mind
[07:30] <meteors2313> Hi anyone knows how to quote text while replying to mailing lists in gmail
[07:33] <bung> so i've got a group that i forgot what it's for... how do i list what a group's permissions are and/or get more detail about it?
[07:34] <hitsujiTMO> bung: cat /etc/group | grep <groupname>
[07:35] <hitsujiTMO> bung: that will at least get you users in that group
[07:35] <bung> i see
[07:36] <bung> well its kinda an obvious named group, www-pub
[07:36] <bung> i bet i have some www/ folder that is set up for it
[07:36] <hitsujiTMO> bung: i guess you could use find to find files/folders owned by that group
[07:37] <bung> its coming back to me now
[07:37] <bung> im pretty sure it was a group i made for website users, probably during some nginx setup tutorial
[07:37] <bung> thanks for your help
[07:38] <hitsujiTMO> bung: try find / -group www-pub
[07:39] <starnix> Hello everyone.
[07:39] <bung> how can i dump that into a file again? >> search.txt ?
[07:40] <hitsujiTMO> bung > is to write   >> is to append
[07:40] <meteors2313> starnix: greetings
[07:41] <bung> yep confirmed all my results are in the /srv/www/ folder
[07:41] <bung> and that folder has ownership by the www-pub group
[07:41] <bung> good now i can add a few web admins safely
[07:42] <starnix> I did installed, gnome 3.10 over ubuntu 13.04 and I am facing an issue with update manager.
[07:42] <bazhang> starnix, from the PPA?
[07:42] <starnix> bazhang, yep.
[07:43] <bazhang> starnix, whats the issue, and is that the PPA with all the warnings about installing it?
[07:43] <starnix> bazhang, everything works fine enough, when I try to update, by sudo update-manger I get: "XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment."
[07:45] <starnix> bazhang, my gnome tweek tool will not load, and applications like, thunderbird frequently crashes...
[07:45] <crypt0queen[L]> heya guys. I'm trying to teach my brother something new -- do you guys recommend backtrack or the latest version of ubuntu for newcomers to mess around in?
[07:45] <bazhang> starnix, you should contact the PPA maintainer then
[07:46] <starnix> sorry, I didnt get you. And, how would I do that?
[07:47] <hitsujiTMO> starnix: goto the launchpad site of the ppa. the list of maintainers are there
[07:48] <wilee-nilee> crypt0queen[L], Backtrack is end of life and this is the ubuntu chanel, take a wild guess. ;)
[07:48] <starnix> crypt0queen[L], obviously, ubuntu.
[07:48] <piroschok> hello. how do i "keep searching" in bash? in windows it would be the F3-shortcut.
[07:48] <crypt0queen[L]> :)
[07:49] <hitsujiTMO> piroschok: what do you mean by "keep searching"?
[07:50] <piroschok> when I search for something in a file, a man-file for example
[07:50] <arubn> guys, how to create a locale file?
[07:50] <hitsujiTMO> piroschok: what are you using to search?
[07:50] <geirha> piroschok: n
[07:50] <John_Zhi> touch filename
[07:51] <piroschok> to search I use / witha regular expression behind it
[07:51] <reisio> piroschok: 'n'
[07:52] <piroschok> okay thx
[07:52] <geirha> piroschok: And also, you can hit  h  to get a list of keybindings. q to get out from the help screen
[07:52] <reisio> piroschok: shift+N for prev
[07:52] <piroschok> got it
[07:52] <thunder1212> hi
[07:53] <thunder1212> i need help
[07:55] <John_Zhi> tell us your problem.
[07:58] <thunder1212> John_Zhi: i have a pdf file 10MB i want to make it 500kb
[07:59] <John_Zhi> thunder1212, I think that's not easy if there is any picture inside your PDF file.
[08:00] <thunder1212> John_Zhi: only one page document converted from jpg to pdf and only text
[08:01] <John_Zhi> can you try to compress the source JPG file and convert it to PDF again?
[08:01] <hitsujiTMO> thunder1212: use a higher compression scheme with whatever you used to make the pdf
[08:02] <Jordan_U> thunder1212: Why did anyone convert a 1 page document from a jpg to a PDF?
[08:04] <thunder1212> hitsujiTMO:  i issued this command gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dPDFSETTINGS=/screen -dNOPAUSE -dQUIET -dBATCH -sOutputFile=output.pdf input.pdf and i got a pdf of 800kb
[08:05] <thunder1212> John_Zhi: gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dPDFSETTINGS=/screen -dNOPAUSE -dQUIET -dBATCH -sOutputFile=output.pdf input.pdf   i issued this command and got a pdf of 800kb
[08:06] <hitsujiTMO> thunder1212: can i ask why you need it to be 500kb?
[08:08] <thunder1212> hitsujiTMO: bcoz there is some silly form i have to fill which requires a particular document in pdf format of 500 kb
[08:09] <hitsujiTMO> thunder1212: the best thing to do is reduce the resolution of the document first. then convert it to pdf, probably can be all done in gimp.
[08:10] <gustavo__> hello
[08:11] <Sazzaj> Hi.  12.04 64-bit.  What is the best shell-based file explorer?  I am looking for something that can allow multiple directories split on a screen.  Thanks.
[08:11] <thunder1212> gustav_: hi
[08:11] <John_Zhi> thunder1212: well, what's the size of you JPG file, I think the size of  PDF is depend on the size of source.
[08:12] <thunder1212> John_Zhi: ok am doing that
[08:13] <hitsujiTMO> Sazzaj: as in cli file managers?
[08:13] <Sazzaj> hitsujiTMO: yeah. i think i just discovered mignight commander. :)
[08:13] <hitsujiTMO> Sazzaj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/222345/is-there-a-file-explorer-manager-for-the-command-line
[08:13] <Sazzaj> yep.. i just found such tools.. thx
[08:17] <thunder1212> John_Zhi: i reduced the source jpg file to 500 kb and i get a pdf of 5mb then issue this command gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dPDFSETTINGS=/screen -dNOPAUSE -dQUIET -dBATCH -sOutputFile=output.pdf input.pdf  and i still get a pdf of 600kb
[08:19] <John_Zhi> thunder1212: em...I have no idea now, try to make the JPG smaller...
[08:21] <hitsujiTMO> John_Zhi: use gimp. reduce the image size there
[08:21] <hitsujiTMO> thunder1212: ^^ even  .... sorry John_Zhi
[08:23] <John_Zhi> :)
[08:25] <thunder1212> hitsujiTMO: John_Zhi: thanks i am rescanning the document in low resolution and saving it as pdf :)
[08:26] <John_Zhi> thunder1212: good, this is better way.
[08:40] <r00ch> is it possible to X -configure on an SSH shell or do I need to be connected to the console?
[08:53] <campino> whoami
[09:02] <jnhghy> what is a good anti-virus for ubuntu?
[09:02] <marcuspbaird> hello
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | jnhghy
[09:03] <marcuspbaird> hey are there any mumble or teamspeak linux communitys apart from linux distro community and jupiterbroadcasting
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: snort and rkhunter are very interseting also
[09:03] <jnhghy> thanks lotuspsychje
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> !security | jnhghy
[09:04] <excognac> hi all. is there any ways to save everyíthing in a log/text file I ever type in terminal (Konsole) ?
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> marcuspbaird: this is an ubuntu support channel, maybe !alis can help find a specific channel?
[09:04] <marcuspbaird> alis ?
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> !alis | marcuspbaird
[09:04] <marcuspbaird> I just thought there might be someone in here that might no of one
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> marcuspbaird: maybe there are specific teamspeak channels
[09:05] <marcuspbaird> I can find ant linux or opensource voice chat channels on teamspeak
[09:05] <marcuspbaird> any sorry typos
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> excognac: you can already type history in terminal
[09:07] <marcuspbaird> its ok just thought there might be some good voice chat servers around to do with ubuntu
[09:07] <excognac> lotuspsychje: OH THANKS! will it display everything even after a decade, right?
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> excognac: try 'man history'
[09:09] <excognac> lotuspsychje: ty, got it
[09:09] <enzo67> ciao
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> !it | enzo67
[09:31] <__raven_> how to use the auto-suspend script to poweroff the machine?
[09:31] <Sazzaj> you mean pm-suspend ?
[09:31] <__raven_> Sazzaj: i dont know what is the "builtin" mechanism in xubuntu 13.10
[09:32] <__raven_> Sazzaj: wakeup crashes everytime so at least shutdown should be possible
[09:32] <Sazzaj> open a shell and type man pm-suspend
[09:32] <Sazzaj> oh ok
[09:33] <Sazzaj> so do a man shutdown instead
[09:33] <__raven_> Sazzaj: i tried to debug it and disabled encrypted swap but it did not help
[09:34] <Sazzaj> if you keep your old kernels try booting them and see if an older version makes it work
[09:34] <__raven_> doesnt
[09:34] <Sazzaj> ok
[09:35] <amritanshu_RnD> can anyone tell about the login & password of the  precise pangolin  ubuntu cloud image
[09:35] <__raven_> Sazzaj: into which script i have to enter the shutdown command instead of hibernate to use the 15 minute "idle-detection"?
[09:35] <Sazzaj> just to rule out your installation  __raven_ consider booting live and cofiguring and see if it crashes there too
[09:36] <__raven_> ok ill try but for the meantime i need any kind of auto shutdown
[09:36] <Sazzaj> ok
[09:36] <Sazzaj> just rules out os versus ram/etc
[09:37] <__raven_> in which script i have to replace the hibernate with the shutdown command?
[09:37] <bjensen82> what do people use now a days to monitor, restart processes etc now a days?
[09:37] <__raven_> bjensen82: htop top "ps aux"
[09:37] <Sazzaj> __raven_: have you tested just hibernating from the shell?  Does that crash your rig?
[09:37] <bjensen82> woaw, need more coffee
[09:38] <bjensen82> __raven_: I meant automatically like monit or systemd
[09:38] <__raven_> Sazzaj: yes - monitor stays off and ssh not possible so it crashes at any time
[09:39] <dol> is there any knowledgeable guy on ALSA?
[09:40] <__raven_> dol: alsamixer in shell
[09:41] <dol> __raven_, I need help about asound.conf
[09:43] <Walex> dol: that's a loaded question..
[09:43] <Walex> dol: there is also and #ALSA channel but it is not that active.
[09:44] <Walex> dol: however, try to ask about your 'asound.conf' question, dangerous as it is.
[09:44] <maicsmarties> http://www.LittleStacy.com?id=99194
[09:44] <dol> Walex, I have asked there as well but as you said, not active. so I am trying my chance here.
[09:44] <dol> Walex, :)
[09:45] <Walex> dol: so go ahead and ask...
[09:45] <dol> Walex, I have an asound.conf which is pretty much copy paste form here :http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc#Virtual_multi_channel_devices
[09:46] <dol> Walex, what I do is, I have two soud cards and I multiplex incoming source to those sound cards
[09:46] <dol> Walex, works perfect. but here is the issue
[09:46] <dol> Walex, I have multiple sources as well. So I need to dmix incoming sources too
[09:46] <dol> I couldn't figure out how to use multi plugin togerther with dmix
[09:47] <dol> Walex, did you understand my issue?
[09:47] <Walex> dol: that sounds very dangerous... I did not understand fully because you seem to use 'incoming' and 'source' in an unexpected way.
[09:48] <Walex> dol: however I have written a details introduction to such things with a number of example in the links that follow.
[09:48] <dol> Walex, let's imagine that I have 3 audio sources and 2 sound cards. I want audio to be mixed and played in both sound cards.
[09:49] <Walex> dol: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#share
[09:49] <Walex> dol: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/ALSA/
[09:49] <dol> Walex, these are the links that I haven't met yet. I will read them and report you back
[09:50] <Walex> dol: but also consider a sound daemon to do that.
[09:50] <dol> Walex, how do you mean?
[09:50] <Walex> dol: something like JACK or PulseAudio
[09:51] <dol> Walex, but there is a plugin called dmix?
[09:51] <dol> Walex, i tried it and it works as well. but couldn't combine them (dmix and multi)
[09:53] <Walex> dol: most likely you want 'copy' rather than 'multi'. But you can stack 'dmix' and 'multi' or 'copy'.
[09:53] <dol> Walex, can you give me an example of stacking?
[09:53] <dol> Walex, and is there any copy plugin? I haven't heard of it yet
[09:54] <Walex> dol: e.g. 'plug:dmix' anyhow the sample config files in that directory show how to do it.
[09:55] <Walex> dol: the 'asound.conf' file is vaguely similar to Lisp macros, and you can have a plugin as an output of another plugin.
[09:55] <dol> Walex, I  will try that
[09:56] <Walex> as you will see from the sample 'asound.conf' the syntax is very peculiar to say the least
[09:57] <CaBa> hi
[09:57] <meet_praveen> how can we see running servers(like-apache,postgres....) in ubuntu
[09:58] <CaBa> ubuntu 12.04 LTS doesn't support installation / booting from EFI out of the box, right? I'm trying to install it on a DELL workstation on a 3 TB drive...
[09:58] <Walex> meet_praveen: those are called 'daemons' usually, and there is no guaranteed way to see only daemons, because daemons are by and large just ordinary processes, but there are imprecise ways.
[09:59] <Walex> meet_praveen: one way is 'service --status-all'.
[10:00] <hiuhewquheuwiwqe> hello i am at work using ubuntu here
[10:00] <meet_praveen> Walex: i shows all running services?
[10:00] <Walex> meet_praveen: another may be 'ps axu | egrep -v '(pts|tty)[0-9/]''
[10:00] <meet_praveen> Walex: it shows all running services?
[10:01] <Walex> CaBa: I think it does. Note that EFI can do both signed and not-signed booting depending on how you configure it.
[10:01] <hiuhewquheuwiwqe> but i cant install apps at work
[10:01] <hiuhewquheuwiwqe> anyway to circumvent this?
[10:01] <Walex> CaBa: 12.04 has signed kernels and booting available, not sure if it can do *install* with them.
[10:02] <Walex> hiuhewquheuwiwqe: you can only install packages in the default system locations if you have 'root' permissions.
[10:02] <k1l> hiuhewquheuwiwqe: if you dont have sudo-rights (are not in the admin group) talk to the admin
[10:02] <Walex> hiuhewquheuwiwqe: but you can surely create your own package subtree under your home directory; but you have to recompile things usually.
[10:03] <Walex> meet_praveen: try them...
[10:04] <hiuhewquheuwiwqe> okay ty Walex cant i run apps from an usb-stick?
[10:05] <meet_praveen> Walex: 'service --status-all' works fine but dosen't show exact result which i need
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> k1l: isnt it the sudo group instead of admin nowe, more in line with Debian :)
[10:06] <k1l> ActionParsnip: you are right
[10:09] <Guest54577> hello
[10:12] <mkozjak> what happened with add-apt-repository in saucy?
[10:12] <mkozjak> there's no script anymore (python props installed)
[10:12] <ObrienDave> still works for me
[10:12] <wilee-nilee> mkozjak, and me to
[10:13] <mkozjak> how come, guys?
[10:13] <mkozjak> dpkg -L python-software-properties | grep add | wc -l
[10:13] <mkozjak> 0
[10:13] <marion> djaklsjdasl
[10:15] <mkozjak> ObrienDave: can you try: dpkg -S add-apt-repository // please? same for wilee-nilee
[10:15] <celica> hello
[10:16] <marion> sassas
[10:16] <celica> hj
[10:16] <ObrienDave> I did this: sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:kxstudio-debian/kxstudio
[10:16] <celica> hi
[10:16] <marion> tdr
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> !test | marion
[10:16] <marion> hello
[10:16] <mkozjak> ObrienDave: which package provides add-apt-repository?
[10:17] <ObrienDave> not sure
[10:17] <wilee-nilee> !info add-apt-repository
[10:17] <mkozjak> ObrienDave: can you find out? dpkg -S add-apt-repository
[10:17] <glitsj16> mkozjak: sudo dpkg -S add-apt-repository | grep bin > software-properties-common here
[10:17] <mkozjak> glitsj16: thanks!
[10:17] <wilee-nilee> !find add-apt-repository
[10:17] <Terabyte> when I isntall apparmor,  apt-get install -y apparmor apparmor-profiles, running apparmor_status tells me apparmor module is not loaded. 12.04 64 bit LTS server.
[10:17] <marion> testing nyu nga
[10:17] <celica> :)
[10:17] <marion> test
[10:17] <celica> weh
[10:18] <jatt> !test
[10:18] <k1l> marion: please keep this channel free for support. join #test for testing irc
[10:18] <DJones> marion: celica: jatt: Stop that this is a support channel
[10:18] <denz_> hello
[10:18] <denz_> aloha
[10:18] <marion> dsd
[10:18] <misterli> Hello. I tried everything to get my ati radeon hd 6700 running with ati drivers on latest ubuntu. it will not work. I tried everything what i could find. Using the driver manager, installing the deb package, modifing the fglrx ...  the screen keeps black after installing. Any idea?
[10:20] <celica> hello
[10:21] <denz_> lag
[10:21] <denz_> clear
[10:21] <wooter> /clear
[10:21] <wilee-nilee> misterli, some askubuntu threads maybe worth looking at. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=radeon+hd+6700
[10:22] <whatwhatinthebut> k
[10:23] <onazari> how to use utm coordinate in linux?
[10:23] <misterli> thanks. tried all this hints but same result. none
[10:23] <Terabyte> when I isntall apparmor,  apt-get install -y apparmor apparmor-profiles, running apparmor_status tells me apparmor module is not loaded. 12.04 64 bit LTS server.
[10:24] <ObrienDave> onazari, in what way?
[10:25] <marion> dsd
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> !ops | marion
[10:25] <winb> !chess
[10:26] <zztopless> hey everyone
[10:26] <ObrienDave> marion, STOP THAT
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> DJones: tnx
[10:26] <NET||abuse> i'm trying to use ssh -D 8989 myremotebox   and firefox doesn't seem to want to work
[10:27] <zztopless> Wondering if anyone has had success seting up their xorg.conf file to allow monitors running off sifferent GPUs to wrun together (nouveau does this out of the box, but I need to be able to use the nvidia driver for cuda)
[10:27] <Walex> NET||abuse: have you told Firefox that is your proxy port?
[10:27] <NET||abuse> i use -vN to get debug output on the ssh terminal,, i just get"debug1: Connection to port 8989 forwarding to socks port 0 requested." and 2 more lines
[10:28] <zztopless> the other gpu is the intel onboard that comes with most z77 boards
[10:28] <lucido> can someone please tell me what's wrong with my xorg.conf? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404566/
[10:28] <aslan> hi how can I set the password in grub2
[10:28] <NET||abuse> " channel 2: new [dynamic-tcpip]"    and  "channel 2: free: dynamic-tcpip, nchannels 3"
[10:29] <NET||abuse> Walex: yeh, i configured the network settings, i've tried unticking "use this proxy server for all protocols" and set ssl,ftp and socks by hand  to localhost:8989
[10:29] <zztopless> lucido: what gpu are you running?
[10:29] <NET||abuse> so it seems to be hitting the ssh tunnel, but not actually utilising it.
[10:30] <Rhomber> question, does anyone know of any USB sound cards (with SPDIF and 5.1 channels) that work with Ubuntu? (pulse e.t.c.)?
[10:30] <Walex> NET||abuse: that's not the right thing. '-D' sets up a SOCKS proxy, not an SSL or FTP proxy.
[10:30] <NET||abuse> Walex: i do a curl --socks5 127.0.0.1:8989 http://www.google.co.uk   and that worked.
[10:30] <Rhomber> been searching all day, after finding out my creative extigy isn't compatible
[10:31] <Walex> NET||abuse: Firefox you need to set only the SOCKS setting to have all other Firefox protocols proxied by SOCKS.
[10:31] <NET||abuse> ahhh
[10:31] <lucido> zztopless, nvidia-304 driver, problem is that x starts up with NULL modeline and defaults on 1024x768, what mt lcd cant display
[10:32] <lucido> GT630
[10:32] <Walex> NET||abuse: note that it is not necessarily the case that *DNS* requests are proxied via SOCKSs. If that matters you may need to check that.
[10:32] <NET||abuse> yeh, saw that in the about:conifg
[10:32] <glitsj16> aslan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Passwords, the usual 'be carefull not to lock yourself out' notice applies
[10:33] <zztopless> lucido: looks alot different to my xorg.conf (sorry am in windows atm, don't have access to it), I am running kubuntu, but still
[10:33] <NET||abuse> Walex: but really i just want to hit a server from my home ip rather than work ip for testing :)
[10:33] <zztopless> there is no reference to your gpu which seems strange
[10:33] <Walex> NET||abuse: for testing, sure... :-)
[10:34] <NET||abuse> Walex: so blanking out those http, ssl and ftp values and ports just leaves the tab spinning when i try google.
[10:34] <Walex> NET||abuse: if you have low latency to home it may be safer to setup x VNC session and running the browser entiely at home.
[10:34] <NET||abuse> hmm,
[10:34] <Walex> NET||abuse: works here... I'll try again.
[10:34] <zztopless> I have been playing around with mine to try and get the onbaord and discreent gpus running together to run 3 monitors and I have a device section for the gpu
[10:34] <NET||abuse> Walex: seems like hastle, also i dont have X on my home box, headless little microserver
[10:35] <zztopless> something like: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18382271/how-can-i-modify-xorg-conf-file-to-force-x-server-to-run-on-a-specific-gpu-i-a
[10:35] <onazari> @ObrienDave  I want darw a plan by utm in librecad.
[10:35] <Walex> NET||abuse: a VNC server does not need an real X session, it is all in memory.
[10:36] <NET||abuse> Walex: oh i know, but you still need massive amount of supporting packages t run a remote X application over ssh x forwarding
[10:36] <NET||abuse> or even vnc
[10:36] <NET||abuse> Walex: I just don't want to dirty up my remote server with all that.
[10:37] <aslan> hi how can I set the password in grub2
[10:38] <ObrienDave> onazari, how large of an area?
[10:38] <Priesty> Hi everyone I have a question that i hope someone can help me with, I would like to add Linux to the WINDOWS 8 boot menu, I have UEFI with Secure Boot and both systems can be booted from the UEFI boot menu. I have GPT harddrive so easybsd or visual bcd cannot help. Does anyone know how to use bcdedit to do this??? I can't seem to find anyone who can answer this question please help
[10:38] <Walex> NET||abuse: I just tried SOCKSing here and it works as expected.
[10:39] <Walex> NET||abuse: I have all other proxies as empty and "SOCKS Host" as "localhost"
[10:40] <Walex> NET||abuse: and obviously "Manual proxy configuration" clicked
[10:40] <Priesty> Hi everyone I have a question that i hope someone can help me with, I would like to add Linux to the WINDOWS 8 boot menu, I have UEFI with Secure Boot and both systems can be booted from the UEFI boot menu. I have GPT harddrive so easybsd or visual bcd cannot help. Does anyone know how to use bcdedit to do this??? I can't seem to find anyone who can answer this question please help
[10:41] <NET||abuse> Walex:
[10:41] <Walex> Pricey: if you repeat a question please wait at least 10-15m...
[10:41] <Priesty> Hi everyone I have a question that i hope someone can help me with, I would like to add Linux to the WINDOWS 8 boot menu, I have UEFI with Secure Boot and both systems can be booted from the UEFI boot menu. I have GPT harddrive so easybsd or visual bcd cannot help. Does anyone know how to use bcdedit to do this??? I can't seem to find anyone who can answer this question please help
[10:41] <ObrienDave> !patience | Priesty
[10:42] <NET||abuse> Walex: oops, premeture return keypress.. :) but yes, manual proxy config selected, it's a radio anyway, which enabled the other fields, so it has to be selected to enter anything in http or socks fields
[10:42] <Priesty> ok sorry
[10:42] <Walex> NET||abuse: then double check the settings in 'about:config' with "proxy" as "Search:" value.
[10:43] <DJones> Priesty: Have you asked in ##windows There may be somebody there who can help, I didn't even know there was a bcdedit for linux
[10:43] <Priesty> the bcd store is no in the uefi partition
[10:44] <Priesty> *now*
[10:44] <onazari> ObrienDave:near 45 km
[10:45] <Priesty> the uefi uses the bcd store to figure out which boot mangers and boot loaders are
[10:46] <esdf> any way to transfer youtube videos between channels of same profile?
[10:47] <ObrienDave> onazari, I would do the plan in meters. no need to convert to UTM
[10:49] <Paulus68_1> Priesty: perhaps this might be usefull to you http://www.simplehelp.net/2013/07/11/the-complete-guide-how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-and-windows-8/
[10:50] <Paulus68_1> Priesty:  or this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/236787/install-ubuntu-next-to-windows-8-uefi-dual-boot
[10:53] <Paulus68_1> Priesty: think this might get you going the right way https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[10:55] <esdf> anyone using googlecl to upload?
[10:56] <Priesty> Thank you for your suggestions but these do not address what i was asking, I have both windows 8 and linux booting with secure boot enabled fine from the uefi boot menu and I have grub booting windows but I cannot find the information on how to add linux to the windows boot menu using bcdedit
[10:56] <Priesty> because i have gpt harddrive i cannot use visual bcd or easybcd
[10:57] <Priesty> I must add it to the windows menu by using bcdedit
[10:58] <Priesty> I had it working by copying windows boot MANAGER entry and editting it for linux but when i restored the bcd store and tried to do it again it I couldn't unfortunately
[11:00] <OerHeks>  Priesty use grub, because linux updates grub when a new kernel is installed.
[11:01] <Guest63365> hi
[11:04] <onazari> ObrienDave: how to scale to print plan on A4 paper
[11:04] <aslan> join  #null0x00
[11:04] <the_drow> Hi guys I'm trying to install WavLink ug39dk1 universal docking station on Ubuntu 13.10 & 13.04. Where can I find drivers for it?
[11:04] <the_drow> The only thing that doesn't work are the screens.
[11:05] <ObrienDave> onazari, that I don't know. haven't used LibreCad. sorry
[11:06] <onazari> ObrienDave: how do the plan without utm?
[11:07] <ObrienDave> onazari, it's just numbers, doesn't matter if your using 1 inch, 1 foot, 1 yard, 1 Kilometer. you only need the numbers
[11:10] <ObrienDave> onazari, now, if you actually need to make an object, that's when you need to convert from inches to millimeters, for example
[11:12] <onazari> ObrienDave:tanks
[11:13] <aslan> HI, I have problem with grub the issue is I cant see the grub menu at the time of booting even after giving the grub timeout in grub.cfg
[11:14] <esdf> is it possible to select which channel to upload to youtube using googlecl? because right now my uploads end up in parent channel and there's no way for me to easily transfer them between channels
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> aslan: hold SHIFT at boot, does it help?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> esdf: man googlecl      amy show how
[11:15] <aslan> ActionParsnip, I tried that, its not working
[11:16] <esdf> ActionParsnip nop, just read thru their manual page online, doesn't show anything
[11:16] <esdf> ActionParsnip well is there any command line tool that lets me select a channel under account?
[11:16] <aslan> ActionParsnip, sometimes the grub menu is appearing but I can see only one entry in that
[11:16] <glitsj16> aslan: i need to hit the Esc key, seems to differ
[11:18] <Priesty> I would use grub but unfortunately microsoft tends to set its boot manager as the default one each time windows updates certain files
[11:18] <Priesty> hence the need to have a fall back with the windows boot menu
[11:19] <Priesty> so I really need to add linux to the bcd store in the efi partition using bcdedit in windows
[11:19] <aslan> ActionParsnip, glitsj16, The actual issue is GRUB menu doesn't have much info, i mean the GRUB menu have only one entry im not getting the init  levels to load or changing  the other variables
[11:20] <Priesty> That way I will see it on the windows boot menu and grub and the user can switch back and forth as they wish
[11:20] <glitsj16> aslan: is this grub2 ?
[11:21] <aslan> glitsj16, yes its grub2
[11:21] <Priesty> so if anyone knows where to find the information for adding linux to the windows boot menu with uefi/secure boot and gpt harddrive partitions
[11:21] <Priesty> You'll make my day
[11:22] <glitsj16> aslan: more recent ubuntu's offer grub submenus, might be also helpfull if you could pastebin /etc/default/grub
[11:23] <aslan> glitsj16, do you want grub.cfg ?
[11:24] <glitsj16> aslan: no, let's start with /etc/default/grub
[11:24] <glitsj16> aslan: that's the main grub2 configuration that puts the /boot/grub/grub.cfg together
[11:25] <hitsujiTMO> Priestly: you don't need to add windows to the grub menu for uefi. just use the efi boot manager
[11:25] <hitsujiTMO> Priesty: or the other way around. even
[11:25] <aslan> glitsj16, I will bundle the grub folder and give you now
[11:29] <Priesty> I can add windows to grub not a problem but windows tends to put it's boot manager as the default one when it updates certain files so it is important that there is a linux enrty in the windows boot menu
[11:29] <Priesty> but no one knows how to do this with gpt harddrive
[11:30] <hitsujiTMO> Priesty: your uefi/bios has its own boot manager. Use that. adding another os to BCD messes up the fast boot anytime you want to boot to another OS.
[11:32] <Priesty> I have been using that menu no problems but we produce a java program that runs on linux for older users that need an easy to use interface so they can choose between linux or windows
[11:33] <Priesty> it is not always f9 to boot a different os
[11:35] <picapica> hi. I am running some cpu intensive processes and for some reason the processes are running much slower than they ought to be.
[11:35] <Priesty> so I know it is possible to add linux to the windows boot menu and have it booting with fast boot because i have already done it but when i tried to do it again it did not work so i obviously did something the first time that i may not been aware of
[11:35] <picapica> I believe the processes that are running are also very disk intensive so that might be a possible issue as well.
[11:35] <picapica> is there are diagnostic tool in the standard Ubuntu Quantal distro that will let me check to see what may be the problem?
[11:35] <aslan> glitsj16, I'm uploading my grubd to you, please have a check
[11:36] <picapica> I see deleting the gvfs-metadata as a possible fix but that appears to have to do with Nautilus.
[11:36] <glitsj16> aslan: what do you mean 'uploading to me'? :) a simple pastebin will do
[11:37] <aslan> glitsj16,  I have all 00_header and other files
[11:37] <glitsj16> aslan: that's fine
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> picapica: you could set a lower nice value to give the process more priority
[11:39] <picapica> ActionParsnip: I have many cores. this shouldn't matter.
[11:39] <picapica> and nothing running at the same time.
[11:39] <aslan> glitsj16, This is my 00_header "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404838/"
[11:42] <glitsj16> aslan: ok, i'll get the pastes .. in the meantime, let me ask if you edited some files in /etc/grub.d? If not, no need to send those
[11:42] <glitsj16> aslan: and don't forget /etc/default/grub
[11:43] <Paulus68_1> Is there a good free alternative for ExQuilla in thunderbird to link the exchange with thunderbird
[11:45] <picapica> another question, how can I make apt-get look in some directory for packages I want to install?
[11:46] <picapica> say I want to install some package and it has dependencies xyz. how do I tell apt-get to look for xyz in some directorY?
[11:46] <picapica> can I just put everything in /var/cache/apt/archive and it will look for it there?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> picapica: use dpkg to install deb files you have stored
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> picapica: the copy may work
[11:46] <picapica> ok, thanks.
[11:47] <glitsj16> aslan: 00_header seems ok to me, let's take another one
[11:47] <aslan> glitsj16, The /etc/default/grub is in this link "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404851/"
[11:49] <shambat> what could be the reason for my /etc/hostname and the hostname command showing different values for hostname? :P
[11:50] <glitsj16> aslan: that doesn't look like /etc/default/grub .. would you please doublecheck?
[11:50] <xet7> Does "USN-2014-1: OpenSSH vulnerability" affect only Ubuntu 13.10 ? Not 12.04 LTS ?
[11:51] <aslan> glitsj16, sorry, this is the grub "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404881/"
[11:51] <Priesty> how can i add linux to windows 8 boot menu using bcdedit and gpt harddrives???
[11:51] <glitsj16> aslan: no problem, we'll get there
[11:53] <glitsj16> aslan: looks fine, you have a 10sec window to hit a key and show the menu at boot
[11:53] <PaRaD0xxR> hi, I need help sharing my printer on 12.04 LTS with other pcs on my network, a mix of xp and win7
[11:53] <OerHeks> xet7, 13.10 only >> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2014-1/
[11:54] <glitsj16> aslan: now would be a good moment to pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:54] <PaRaD0xxR> I checked the printer settings, and shared is checked, but also says "not published".
[11:54] <xet7> OerHeks: ok thanks! :)
[11:55] <aslan> glitsj16,  Here my grub.cfg is "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404851/"
[11:57] <PaRaD0xxR> o, and I my issue from the other day with my second hard drive not always being seen by ubutu, seems to have been a loose cable after all, I re-tightened it, and it's stayed fixed 3 reboots in a row
[11:57] <PaRaD0xxR> odd that xp never had issues w/it being loose
[11:58] <brandy> can someone help me with c++?
[11:58] <OerHeks> aslan,  do not use "" as it makes your url unclickable
[11:58] <PaRaD0xxR> now I need to set up print sharing with the rest of my lan
[11:59] <aslan> OerHeks, Thank you for your information, I will not use next time :)
[11:59] <dol> Walex, just for your info, I have fixed my issue with the info here: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2013-November/068579.html
[11:59] <moppy> PaRaD0xxR, Odd that you consider the OS to responsible for a hardware issue. Probably knocked the computer or something...
[12:00] <glitsj16> aslan: now i understand your problem better, that is very incomplete .. please paste output of ls -l /etc/grub.d
[12:00] <DJones> PaRaD0xxR: I'm glad you solved that disk issue, it was really wierd how it was showing up in Windows, but not Ubuntu
[12:00] <PaRaD0xxR> heh..all I'm saying, 2nd hard drive only sporadically showed up the way it was booting into Ubuntu, but xp saw it everytime..just the facts ;)
[12:00] <PaRaD0xxR> yeah, bizarre
[12:00] <PaRaD0xxR> could be coindence, but 3 reboots now, and it's still there fine ;)
[12:01] <PaRaD0xxR> cable was somewhat loose, had just put a new right angle cable on it
[12:01] <moppy> PaRaD0xxR, If it's a loose cable, it's OS-independent. Either the firmware sees the drive and reports it to the OS, or it doesn't.
[12:01] <PaRaD0xxR> ahh
[12:01] <PaRaD0xxR> now I can't figure out how to share my printer on here
[12:01] <PaRaD0xxR> I assume that's an easier fix ;)
[12:02] <Walex> brandy: there is a specific channel for C/C++ help
[12:02] <aslan> glitsj16, here is the list of grub.d http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404932/
[12:03] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: you need to set the printer to be shared and make is discoverable to other machines
[12:03] <st_prg> Hi guys, I'm having a bit of an issue with my menu. Nothing is visible except files.
[12:03] <PaRaD0xxR> I think it is shared
[12:03] <PaRaD0xxR> the box is checked
[12:03] <PaRaD0xxR> enabled is checked, shared is checked..
[12:03] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: please dont use the enter key just type all you need to say in one go
[12:04] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: is this on ubuntu?
[12:04] <PaRaD0xxR> ok sorry ;) yes, 12.04.
[12:04] <st_prg> This is what I'm seeing... http://s17.postimg.org/x37fxo4gf/Screenshot_from_2013_11_12_20_00_46.png
[12:04] <glitsj16> aslan: looks ok .. did you try to regenerate /boot/grub/grub.cfg by running 'sudo update-grub' yet? Please try that and resend /boot/grub/grub.cfg pls
[12:04] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: in printer properties you need to click the server tab and tick enable to be discovered
[12:05] <PaRaD0xxR> on the policies page, enabled.accepting jobs, and shared all checked, but says "not published - see server settings"
[12:05] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: ^^ server settings ;)
[12:05] <PaRaD0xxR> hm....I dont' see a server settings tab?
[12:06] <PaRaD0xxR> o...in the menu bar?
[12:06] <PaRaD0xxR> I was looking in the window ;)
[12:07] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: yeah !! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[12:07] <PaRaD0xxR> :)
[12:07] <PaRaD0xxR> thanks,  I see it now
[12:07] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: I always found it odd that shared was not enough
[12:08] <PaRaD0xxR> yeah, that option should in the window with the other stuff, I will try it now and let you know
[12:09] <aslan> glitsj16, while doing the update Im getting the error as "cat: /boot/grub/video.lst: No such file or directory
[12:09] <aslan> "
[12:09] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: if you need to print to it from windows all you need to do is install Samba on the ubuntu print server and reboot. Windows will then find it as a network printer
[12:09] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: no other settings needed. I did this last week.
[12:13] <glitsj16> aslan: looks like a reinstall of your grub2 packages are needed, you're missing critical files .. what do you use to install software on your machine ? I ask because our systems will differ , i can't simply give you a command just yet .. but this explains your trouble
[12:15] <PaRaD0xxR> hmmm...samba?
[12:15] <PaRaD0xxR> I can see other windows machines fine, does that mean samba is already setup?   Or is this something also needed for printing?
[12:17] <aslan> glitsj16, I GRUB has been updated successfully by creating the file video.lst in /boot/grub/video.lst and the new grub is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404984/
[12:17] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR:  for printing from windows to an ubuntu print server. Also use for file access. Basically for printing you just install samba package on the ubuntu machine that has the printer connected to it
[12:19] <PaRaD0xxR> philinux:  that's what I'm asking...how can I tell if its already installed?
[12:19] <glitsj16> aslan: how exactly did you create video.lst? there's still no boot items in there
[12:20] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: apt-cache policy samba
[12:20] <PaRaD0xxR> I can see windows pcs files already, just can't print from them
[12:20] <aslan> glitsj16, This is the command to create that "echo vbe | tee /boot/grub/video.lst"
[12:20] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: it only needs installing on the ubuntu print server to
[12:21] <PaRaD0xxR> says "samba : installed: (none)"
[12:22] <PaRaD0xxR> candidate...version table.  I'm assuming this means it isn't installed?
[12:22] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: your eyes do not deceive you
[12:22] <glitsj16> aslan: fine, but your 10_linux section is not showing any bootable menu items .. strange
[12:22] <PaRaD0xxR> sudo apt-get install samba then?
[12:23] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: indeed
[12:23] <PaRaD0xxR> I have to reboot?
[12:23] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: ah you'll need to reboot the print server for samba to be running.
[12:23] <PaRaD0xxR> ok, brb
[12:24] <shambat> which is authoritative? /etc/hostname or the hostname command? my system is showing different things for these two.
[12:24] <glitsj16> aslan: in http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404851/ you at least at the 'MAC Gio V1.0' item, now that is gone too
[12:26] <glitsj16> aslan: is this a fresh install? and of which ubuntu?
[12:26] <aslan> glebihan, its ubuntu 11.0
[12:26] <aslan> and its not a fress install,my friend have done someting in this
[12:26] <aslan> I'm not able to fix this
[12:26] <glitsj16> aslan: nice friend lol
[12:27] <aslan> glitsj16,  :)
[12:28] <glitsj16> aslan: maybe that's why you're looking to password protect your grub hehe .. 11.0 is no longer supported btw, you are aware of that yes?
[12:29] <aslan> glitsj16, ya I knew that
[12:29] <aslan> glitsj16, is there any other possibility to fix this
[12:30] <glitsj16> aslan: i can't see anything directly, but i'll look around in the forums etc. ok
[12:31] <aslan> glitsj16, Thank you for your support
[12:31] <glitsj16> aslan: you will need all the grub related packages and reinstall them, not sure where we can track those down for 11.0
[12:32] <glitsj16> aslan: no problem, didn't really solve anything yet :) .. do you have a live cd of 11.0 by any chance?
[12:33] <philinux> shambat: both same here
[12:34] <PaRaD0xx> hmmm
[12:34] <PaRaD0xx> don't know if I missed anything there
[12:35] <st_prg> Hi guys, I'm still having an issue with my menu. Only category that is showing is Files and Folders, although I also have applications selected.
[12:35] <shambat> philinux: if you have the chance, could you try to change it with the hostname command? sudo hostname yourhostname.local
[12:35] <shambat> and then check
[12:35] <PaRaD0xx> I can see the computer thats sharing the printer now in the add printer dialogs...but not a printer under it
[12:35] <st_prg> http://s17.postimg.org/x37fxo4gf/Screenshot_from_2013_11_12_20_00_46.png
[12:35] <philinux> shambat: have you seen the man page for hostname
[12:36] <meet_praveen> can i split the hard disk in several partition in ubuntu like in  windows
[12:36] <PaRaD0xx> "you need to specify a valid network printer name"
[12:36] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: now on the windows machine you need to search for network printers from the printer dialog gui
[12:37] <aslan> glitsj16, ya I do have that
[12:37] <philinux> meet_praveen: yep
[12:37] <meet_praveen> philinux: how?
[12:37] <PaRaD0xx> yeah, I browsed...and I see all my windows machines...and I see the name this ubuntu box gave to the printer...and the lil blue pc icon...but I can't click on it to see the printer icon
[12:37] <shambat> philinux: I just did and it seems to have cleared things up :)
[12:38] <DJones> meet_praveen: Yes you can, but you can't do it with a mounted disk, if the disk you want to partition has your operating system on, you'll need to use a LiveDVD/USB so that the hard drive isn't mounted when you come to partition it, you can use gparted to repartition
[12:38] <PaRaD0xx> if I click on it, I get "you need to specify a valid network printer name"
[12:38] <DJones> !partitioning | meet_praveen
[12:38] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: i'm not in win 7 at the moment. IIRc there's a button add network printer
[12:38] <glitsj16> aslan: ok, let's boot that and try to get back in here, we'll give a shot at moving the needed packages from that iso onto your natty
[12:39] <PaRaD0xx> this is actually xp atm
[12:39] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: you may need to reboot the win machine too
[12:40] <luzx> what?
[12:40] <aslan> glitsj16, you want me to boot and live cd for grub update
[12:40] <meet_praveen> philinux: in system it shows single disk
[12:41] <glitsj16> aslan: yes, we need a way to get at those grub related .deb files, otherwise your system will stay broken
[12:41] <philinux> meet_praveen: DJones gave you the answer
[12:41] <PaRaD0xx> k, I'm rebooting the xp box
[12:42] <PaRaD0xx> I can see the pc icon, has a plus...but can't click on it to see the printer
[12:42] <PaRaD0xx> still rebooting
[12:42] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: no idea how to with xp.
[12:42] <goldstar> i am using saucy and have noticed that everytime I start my PC it takes about 5-10 minutes for my interface card to connect to the network. Does anyone know how I can diagnose this ?
[12:42] <PaRaD0xx> maybe reboot will fix ;)
[12:43] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: the answer will be in the printers gui on xp and "out there" somewhere
[12:43] <PaRaD0xx> out there?
[12:43] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: net search on www
[12:43] <glitsj16> aslan: are you ok with that? and that will give you the opportunity to backup all what's on your presently unbootable system from that live cd as well
[12:44] <meet_praveen> philinux: DJones : i partitioned in two parts one for root installation and other with mount point boot ..so other partition is showing in system's boot folder
[12:44] <st_prg> Hello. I am having issues seeing menu items, I can only see files and folders. No applications.
[12:44] <aslan> glitsj16, ya glitch Could you plz give me the steps to do that... because I got few things to take the backup right now
[12:45] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/print_connect_net_printerw.mspx?mfr=true
[12:46] <philinux> st_prg: which ubuntu?
[12:46] <glitsj16> aslan: sure, let's focus on the grub issue first ok, once you've booted from your natty cd we'll see what we can solve and take it from there
[12:46] <meet_praveen>  DJones : i partitioned in two parts one for root installation and other with mount point boot ..so other partition is showing in system's boot folder....... now what should i do?
[12:47] <PaRaD0xx> philinux: thanks, I will keep trying
[12:47] <st_prg> philinux: 13.10 64 bit. Upgraded from 13.04 about a week ago, no issues up until today.
[12:47] <PaRaD0xx> something is blocking it, firewall perhaps? hmm
[12:47] <jnhghy> is there an open source program that will livestream my screen (while working on the computer)? I'd like to see on my screen exactly what another user is doing in livetime is there anything like this?
[12:48] <infused> RDP
[12:48] <GuybrushThreepwo> Question... If I have a jar file, how can I include a shortcut to execute that jar file without using the terminal?
[12:48] <glitsj16> aslan: i realize that coming here with a grub issue and getting the advice to update 11.04 isn't what you'd expect, but personally it's something i'd consider doing, but that's up to you ofcourse
[12:49] <aslan> glitsj16, How can I find you back in this, do you have any social link to connect you
[12:49] <infused> guybrushthreepwo like minecraft.jar?
[12:49] <glitsj16> aslan: i'llbe here for the next few hours
[12:50] <glitsj16> aslan: PM me if you're back, no problem
[12:50] <GuybrushThreepwo> infused, multibit-exe.jar
[12:50] <DJones> meet_praveen: What was the 2nd partition supposed to be for
[12:50] <philinux> st_prg: so you got desktop but no unity launcher on left or what?
[12:51] <st_prg> philinux: http://s17.postimg.org/x37fxo4gf/Screenshot_from_2013_11_12_20_00_46.png
[12:51] <aslan> glitsj16, Sure I will PM you
[12:51] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: it'll be something on the xp machine maybe.
[12:51] <meet_praveen> DJones: 2nd partition for safe space means  data in 2nd partition should not affected by re-installing of OS
[12:52] <glitsj16> aslan: ok .. i promise i won't fly off :)
[12:52] <GuybrushThreepwo> infused: I would imaging the same method would work as the method used to do it with minecraft.jar
[12:52] <GuybrushThreepwo> imagine*
[12:52] <GuybrushThreepwo> I just don't want to type it out every time
[12:52] <philinux> st_prg: I would reset unity and compiz back to default settings. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[12:52] <infused> guybrushthreepwo I think so too
[12:53] <st_prg> philinux: Ok
[12:54] <DJones> meet_praveen: Right, I'm not sure how you'll fix this, because you gave the 2nd partition the mountpoint 'boot' when you installed, that partition was set as /boot which is a specific folder used on linux systems and part of the system will have been installed into that
[12:54] <aslan> glitsj16, I think all this sort of issue can be solved only  by geeks, I need you let me restart and come back
[12:54] <Zorky> Where is the nautilus folder icon located? i want to change the icon on a shortcut
[12:54] <DJones> meet_praveen: I'm not sure if /boot can be moved to another location easily, give me a minute to have a look for something
[12:54] <glitsj16> aslan: ok, i've called worde things than geek ;)
[12:55] <glitsj16> *worse
[12:55] <GuybrushThreepwo> does anyone know how to do it? or if theres like a simply batch file i can make or something to put on the bar?
[12:55] <st_prg> philinux: Nope, still only the one category
[12:56] <meet_praveen> DJones: so , i have to re-install os?
[12:57] <DJones> meet_praveen: Its should be possible to move whats currently in /boot but I can't find instructions on how to do it easily, if you wait around the channel, somebody else may be able to help
[12:57] <philinux> st_prg: what happens when you click the A applications icon. Screenshot shows files highlighted
[12:58] <philinux> st_prg: secnond from left on bottom of Dash
[12:58] <DJones> meet_praveen: If you do reinstall, when you set the mount point for the 2nd partition, maybe use something like 'data' as the mount point which would force the install to create its /boot within the 1st partition automatically
[12:59] <st_prg> philinux: http://s13.postimg.org/ekclaln9z/Screenshot_from_2013_11_12_20_58_21.png
[12:59] <bgardner> GuybrushThreepwo: Yes, you can use a script and/or a *.desktop file.
[12:59] <meet_praveen> DJones: i just installed the os . so, no big issue with re-installation but could u tell me that what steps should i follow now
[12:59] <PaRaD0xx> philinux:  booted into a win7 laptop, it also can see the ubuntu machine, but can't see its files
[12:59] <GuybrushThreepwo> bgardner:  I don't know how to do that, can you help?
[12:59] <infused> guybrushthreepwo https://wiki.python.org/jython/JythonFaq/DistributingJythonScripts#Add_modules_and_paths_to_the_jar_file
[12:59] <philinux> st_prg: ok hang on
[12:59] <PaRaD0xx> and I assume printers either...do I have to enable sharing some other way on the ubuntu system?
[13:00] <DJones> meet_praveen: If you do that, just reinstall the same as previously, install ubuntu onto the 1st partition, and set the 2nd partition to mount as 'Data' or some other name
[13:00] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: well you need to share a folder for it to be seen
[13:00] <PaRaD0xx> o
[13:00] <philinux> same as a printer needs to be shared
[13:00] <GuybrushThreepwo> I found something on making bash file to do it
[13:00] <GuybrushThreepwo> what's the extension on that?
[13:00] <PaRaD0xx> yeah shared is checked...but nothing seems to be able to actually see it
[13:00] <GuybrushThreepwo> .bash?
[13:00] <PaRaD0xx> :(
[13:00] <meet_praveen> DJones: ok thanks :) . i m trying
[13:01] <PaRaD0xx> what should be in the location box?
[13:01] <GuybrushThreepwo> "addung module and path to jar file" is confusing
[13:01] <GuybrushThreepwo> i just want to drag something to the bar on the left and click it to run
[13:01] <GuybrushThreepwo> adding*
[13:01] <bgardner> GuybrushThreepwo, infused: I think Mr. Threepwood wants to just launch a jar without a terminal, not repackage it.  Is that correct, GuyBrush?
[13:02] <GuybrushThreepwo> Yeah
[13:02] <bgardner> GuybrushThreepwo: Okay, one moment while I rob one of my own java launcher configs.
[13:02] <GuybrushThreepwo> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-create-a-desktop-shortcut-to-a-jar-file-694885/
[13:02] <GuybrushThreepwo> I found this
[13:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> I just don't know about creating bash files, what extension to use, etc
[13:03] <Number5> Hello guys, I have ubuntu 12.04 installed. But I'd like to change the theme, because I simply just don't like the Ubuntu colors. Instead of tweaking, I rather want some ready made themes I can use. Which steps do I have to take?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: the extension on the bash file doesnt matter
[13:03] <st_prg> GuybrushThreepwo: Have a look at "shebang"
[13:03] <philinux> st_prg: cd ~/.local/share/ then rm -rf zeitgeist
[13:04] <GuybrushThreepwo> eh?
[13:04] <st_prg> philinux: Do I need to restart unity after that?
[13:04] <philinux> st_prg: setsid unity
[13:04] <GuybrushThreepwo> So you say "extension doesn't matter"
[13:04] <GuybrushThreepwo> if that's the case
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: as long as the file is executable and the 1st line is:   #!/bin/bash   you can have a .png extension on the file and it makes no difference at all, this isnt windows
[13:05] <GuybrushThreepwo> i see
[13:05] <st_prg> philinux: Still the same issue :/
[13:05] <bgardner> GuybrushThreepwo: Just create the bash file as indicated in your link, don't worry about the extension.  Name it my_script or whatever.
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: Linux is smart and does not rely on the file extension
[13:05] <krypto> ubuntu12.04 on which i can able to resolve ips,and most applications are working including package manager but browser is not working...any idea?
[13:05] <GuybrushThreepwo> ok ty
[13:05] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: there's this documentation https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: you can rename a .jpg to .bmp  and the OS will still see a jpg file
[13:06] <Zorky> how would i write the line in a .sh script . that askes the user for a yes no question on a reboot command?
[13:07] <philinux> st_prg: top right Gear > system settings > privacy >files and application> clear usage data
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6405216/
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: Zorky a bash script, you mean?
[13:08] <PaRaD0xx> hmmm
[13:08] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  yes. i want to ask the user for confirmation before proceeding with the script
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: read variablename; echo $variablename
[13:08] <GuybrushThreepwo> Ok, so I have a bash file with these 3 lines: #!/bin/bash cd /home/karl/MultiBit-0.5.14  java -jar multibit48.png
[13:08] <GuybrushThreepwo> Now what?
[13:08] <st_prg> philinux: Now I don't get files and folders.
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: a '.sh file' doesn't tell us much, file extensions are meaningless in Linux
[13:08] <GuybrushThreepwo> I click to open it and it's opened with text editor
[13:09] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  ohh yeah my mistake. a #!/bin/bash
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: what sort of file does the 'file' command say it is?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_08_02.html
[13:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> right click properties says
[13:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> shell script (application/x-shellscript)
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: i searched in google for 'user input bash'
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: is the file executable?
[13:10] <GuybrushThreepwo> I haven't done anything other than created the file and saved.
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: what is the name of the file and where is it saved?
[13:10] <GuybrushThreepwo> "multibit" in home
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: chmod +x ~/multibit
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: will mark it executable
[13:11] <infused> zorky this was kind like what you are doing http://stackoverflow.com/questions/226703/how-do-i-prompt-for-input-in-a-linux-shell-script
[13:11] <philinux> st_prg: log out then back in
[13:11] <GuybrushThreepwo> One last question
[13:12] <GuybrushThreepwo> is there any way to get rid of this 4 workplaces thing?
[13:12] <GuybrushThreepwo> i don't like it
[13:12] <st_prg> philinux: Already tried a full restart
[13:12] <Zorky> infused:  that is exactly what im looking for. an example that is allready sat up. so i can copy it and change to my needs
[13:12] <GuybrushThreepwo> or disable it
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: set your workspaces to 1x1 and it will go, what shell / desktop do you use?
[13:12] <infused> zorky hope it helps shouldnt be to hard to tweek
[13:13] <GuybrushThreepwo> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: with Unity shell?
[13:13] <GuybrushThreepwo> i assume so
[13:14] <philinux> st_prg: try the guest user
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: does it look like this http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1219/screenshot100113154720.png
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38789/how-do-i-add-and-remove-the-workspace-switcher-launcher-from-the-unity-launcher
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1970450
[13:16] <meet_praveen> DJones: now i didn't selected any mount point for 2nd partition
[13:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> Okay, I'll follow the ubuntu 12.04 instructions, thanks
[13:17] <Zorky> infused:  now i get confused. i want that to ask the user if he wants to reboot and if answered yes . it should reboot the pc
[13:17] <DJones> meet_praveen: ok, thats something you do after the install is complete anyway
[13:17] <GuybrushThreepwo> I don't like it, it makes me move things to other places or too far off grid on accident
[13:17] <st_prg> philinux: Yes, Guest has applications.
[13:18] <meet_praveen> DJones: what will be steps after installation
[13:18] <philinux> st_prg: ok so some settings messed up with main user.
[13:19] <DJones> meet_praveen: You'd neet to create a folder in /media or /mnt called with a name you want to use (eg Data), then you would edit your fstab file to add that folder as a mount point, next time you rebooted, you'd have access to the storage partition
[13:20] <philinux> st_prg: rm ~/.cache/software-center -R the use the dconf thing to reset unity again
[13:20] <GuybrushThreepwo> The folder /usr/share/unity-2d/shell/launcher/ doesn't exist when I look for it using text editor
[13:20] <meet_praveen> DJones: ok :)
[13:20] <GuybrushThreepwo> the shell folder seems to have 3 other folders: panel, shell, and spread
[13:20] <GuybrushThreepwo> nvm
[13:21] <GuybrushThreepwo> i'm dumb
[13:21] <DJones> meet_praveen: When you get to that point, just come back into the channel, I'm sure plenty of people will be able to talk you through that
[13:21] <st_prg> philinux: Still no luck :/
[13:23] <infused> Zorky I found another site http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/shutdown_and_reboot/
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: just make a backup of anything you change then you can easily roll back
[13:24] <Zorky> i got a command to work. where it asks. but it asks for a number instead of y or n
[13:24] <philinux> st_prg: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-scope-home then logout then in
[13:24] <infused> Zorky half way there:D
[13:25] <GuybrushThreepwo> Okay, so
[13:25] <GuybrushThreepwo> I made the bash file
[13:25] <GuybrushThreepwo> put it on my desktop anyway
[13:26] <GuybrushThreepwo> is there a way to have it on my dash?
[13:26] <brontosaurusrex> GuybrushThreepwo, not sure about unity, but usually making a .dekstop file in the appropriate location does the trick
[13:27] <GuybrushThreepwo> eh
[13:27] <st_prg> philinux: Ok, will be right back.
[13:27] <infused> guybrushthreepwo http://askubuntu.com/questions/67753/how-do-i-add-an-application-to-the-dash
[13:27] <GuybrushThreepwo> ill just settle for a desktop icon for now i guess
[13:27] <GuybrushThreepwo> ill look into that thanks
[13:28] <ucz15> no elo
[13:30] <fishduck> when is ubuntu 14 coming out?
[13:30] <DJones> fishduck: April and October
[13:30] <DJones> !14.04 | fishduck
[13:30] <fishduck> also, will it really be an awesome release as said, or are there just some minor updates?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> fishduck, yes.  no.  crystal ball says answer unclear.
[13:31] <st_prg> pilinux: That worked - thanks!
[13:31] <DJones> fishduck: It will be LTS though, so I guess that counts towards the awesome release :)
[13:31] <Rory> fishduck: In general LTS releases have focussed more on stability and bugfixes than headline features
[13:32] <philinux> st_prg: must have been a bug during an update that removed the unity-scope-home package
[13:32] <mmichalik> exit
[13:32] <mmichalik> quit
[13:32] <mmichalik> :q
[13:33] <DJones> mmichalik: its /quit
[13:33] <LjL> try harder
[13:33] <philinux> st_prg: also fire up software center it will need to have it's index rebuilt after we deleted it
[13:33] <st_prg> philinux: I guess so. Anyway, thank you for your support. I appreciate it very much.
[13:33] <DJones> mmichalik: or /part
[13:33] <st_prg> philinux: Ok, sure thing.
[13:33] <mmichalik> ya, should read docs first :) ty
[13:34] <philinux> st_prg: funny thing is I've not had any trouble with my two machines at all lol.
[13:34] <st_prg> philinux: That's how it should be :P But alas it is not.
[13:37] <Zorky> infused:  it aint working :/
[13:43] <Togusa> question: is it normal that the network-manager package is installed but the /etc/init.d/NetworkManager script is missing? has it been moved? it's a command line ubuntu 13.10 install with a de on top of it
[13:44] <PaRaD0xx> ok, making progress with the printing situation, sudo disable ufw makes it so I can now see the printer from windows...but still can't print
[13:44] <PaRaD0xx> printer name is invalid
[13:46] <PaRaD0xx> hmm
[13:47] <Togusa> hey PaRaD0xx
[13:47] <Togusa> are you using 13.10? can you please check if you have /etc/init.d/NetworkManager? my installation doesn't have it, and i was wondering if it was normal
[13:47] <PaRaD0xx> 12.04
[13:47] <Togusa> uhm i see
[13:48] <Togusa> thanks anyway =)
[13:48] <PaRaD0xx> I'm here for help, not to help :)  I mean, I know virtually nothing, so probably couldn't
[13:48] <PaRaD0xx> ;)
[13:48] <PaRaD0xx> trying to get print sharing enabled with winblows
[13:49] <Togusa> never tried to print stuff on linux
[13:49] <PaRaD0xx> my win boxes can see the ubuntu printer, but can't select it
[13:49] <PaRaD0xx> keep getting can't connect/invalid printer name
[13:49] <Togusa> is the printer shared from ubuntu?
[13:49] <PaRaD0xx> yes
[13:49] <Togusa> i know there's something inside /etc/samba/smb.conf
[13:50] <Togusa> but i never actually used it
[13:50] <DJones> Togusa: This probably doesn't help, just checked my 12.04 server and that doesn't have /etc/init.d/NetworkManager
[13:50] <PaRaD0xx> well, as I said, diabling the ufw helped...
[13:50] <Togusa> DJones: thanks!
[13:50] <PaRaD0xx> now windows machines can see the printer machine, and the printer itself...but get can't connect now
[13:50] <PaRaD0xx> so, getting closer, but still no dice
[13:51] <Togusa> 'cause i tried to install kde-full on it but the network applet keeps complainig about the network manager not running
[13:51] <PaRaD0xx> yeah, tried to edit the samba.conf...but not sure what to edit
[13:51] <Togusa> it's strange 'cause i remember i could start it manually in the past
[13:51] <PaRaD0xx> also, hate having ufw off
[13:51] <Togusa> if i had network-manager installed
[13:51] <Gregor_> Hello, I want to buy a Radeon HD 7850, will it be okay with any linux distro? Whats are better Nvidia OSS or ATI OSS driver?     Propitary Nvidia/OSS driver?
[13:52] <Togusa> can't connect?
[13:52] <Togusa> are you sure the ports are open?
[13:53] <Rory> Gregor_: I use a very similar card, and it works fine with Ubuntu, Mint, Arch and every other distro I've tried. The open-source Radeon driver is very good nowadays, and has improved recently in Linux kernel 3.12. This means even greater performance will be in the next version of Ubuntu
[13:53] <PaRaD0xx> Togusa no idea how to do that
[13:54] <Togusa> the only issue i have (unless Rory knows if they added support yet) with the opensource driver is that the GPU runs at its max frequency
[13:54] <Togusa> and i can't see the temps
[13:54] <hitsujiTMO> Rory: some of the radeon improvements are pushed back to 3.13
[13:54] <Togusa> PaRaD0xx: iptables --list?
[13:54] <Rory> hitsujiTMO: I've noticed fantastic real-world improvements from installing the 3.12-saucy mainline kernel
[13:54] <Gregor_> Rory: It will also be good with 13.10? I read recommends about Nvidia, but do you think radeon got more support than nvidia now?
[13:55] <ezra-s> Rory, define "fantastic improvements"
[13:55] <Rory> ezra-s: League of Legends in Wine goes above 30fps now consistantly; in fact usually above 60, so maybe an 80% performance improvement there. No wine or LoL update, and it goes back to slower if I use the old kernel
[13:56] <ezra-s> Rory, any specific configuration option in kernel config for that?
[13:56] <Rory> Gregor_: That's a very difficult question to answer. All I can tell you is my AMD Radeon 6970 works very well for my light gaming usage, as I just mentioned to ezra-s above
[13:56] <Gregor_> I got a older nvida gt4xx,   will working with a new Radeon (OSS drivers) be better than the old with propitary
[13:57] <PaRaD0xx> could that be my issue?  I need to open the printer port?
[13:57] <Rory> ezra-s: I'm not sure, I just installed the packaged mainline kernel from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-saucy/
[13:57] <Togusa> since there're so many people now, does anyboy know how to fix the "network manager not running" error i have on my DE? network-manager is installed but i can't start the service because /etc/init.d/NetworkManager is missing
[13:58] <ezra-s> Rory, I'm curious, just that, I read somewhere else that 3.12 would bring much better performance under certain conditions but I didn't read where specifically
[13:58] <lucido> does shotwell 0.13 imprt videos too?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> lucido, no.
[13:58] <hitsujiTMO> Togusa: is the network-manager service running?
[13:58] <lucido> cfhowlett, which version can?
[13:58] <Rory> Togusa: Can you try "sudo service network-manager start"
[13:58] <cfhowlett> lucido, version?  shotwell is for still photos not for video.
[13:59] <Togusa> let me try
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> Togusa: network manager is an upstart service btw, defined in /etc/init/network-manager.conf
[14:00] <cfhowlett> lucido, by any chance, did you mean "openshot" for videos?
[14:01] <bjensen82> I have made a nginx.conf file inside /etc/init with how to start restart etc nginx. However when I try to do initctl list |grep nginx I get the error "Unknown job: nginx" can somone pleasepoint me in right direction?
[14:01] <ezra-s> Togusa, /etc/init.d/network-manager linux is case-sensitive
[14:01] <lucido> cfhowlett, no, according to this it can, I just don't know from which version? http://www.yorba.org/shotwell/help/
[14:02] <Togusa> Rory, hitsujiTMO: yeah the service is running! weird
[14:02] <ezra-s> network-manager gets disabled in cases where you tweak /etc/network/interfaces
[14:02] <kognitiva_> Gief halp plxplx
[14:02] <bjensen82> sorry I mean the job isnt on the list, when I try to do start I get the above error: unknown job
[14:02] <Togusa> i thought the scripts were all inside there and since bash was not autocompleting service net* i thought the script was missing
[14:02] <kognitiva_> who's in charge here?
[14:02] <Togusa> thanks for the help guys
[14:02] <kognitiva_> I have a simple question on how to get ubuntu onto  a stick
[14:03] <kognitiva_> I have tried googling, just need someone to talk to
[14:03] <Rory> !usb | kognitiva_
[14:03] <kognitiva_> thats kinda sad
[14:03] <supziez> kognitiva_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[14:04] <Guest74202> hello, my name is MJ
[14:04] <cfhowlett> lucido, news to me.  I've only used shotwell for pics.  No video import on version 12.  No idea about higher version numbers.
[14:04] <ezra-s> Togusa, if you hit tab several times it will show all options that start with net, when there is more than one choice, first tab does not auto-complete
[14:04] <cfhowlett> Guest74202, do you have an ubuntu question
[14:04] <lucido> I see
[14:04] <Togusa> ezra-s: i know but it doesn't matter how many times i press it
[14:04] <Togusa> there's no network-manager
[14:05] <ezra-s> s/several times/twice
[14:05] <kognitiva_> which one gives me the nice menu with "try ubuntu" "install ubuntu" etc?
[14:05] <kognitiva_> thanks for links :)
[14:05] <Togusa> it only completes to "networking"
[14:05] <cfhowlett> lucido, you're right, the site clearly states video
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> ezra-s: Togusa bash_completion is not working for me either. must be a bug
[14:05] <ezra-s> Togusa, are you using ubuntu-desktop?
[14:05] <Togusa> no it's a command line install
[14:05] <Togusa> from the netinst ISO
[14:05] <lucido> I'm still on 12.04 I think
[14:05] <cfhowlett> kognitiva_, make a usb stick.  boot your computer with that stick.  "try" and "install" will be offered as options.
[14:06] <Guest74202> what do you do in Ubuntu?
[14:06] <Togusa> the autocompletion is working but not everything it seems
[14:07] <ezra-s> Togusa, then you need to install needed package: network-manager: /etc/init.d/network-manager
[14:07] <Rory> !ubuntu | Guest74202
[14:07] <kognitiva_> cfhowlett, thanks  :)
[14:07] <hitsujiTMO> Togusa, ezra-s just checked again, bash_completion is only working for system-v services, not upstart
[14:08] <Togusa> hitsujiTMO: that explains it then! thanks! :)
[14:08] <ezra-s> hitsujiTMO, bash_completion works for files and directory names as well as symlinks
[14:08] <ezra-s> forgive me If I'm missing something :P
[14:09] <Guest74202> what's the most interesting thing in Ubuntu?
[14:11] <guuest> help me please! I'm using Ubuntu desktop with LXDE. I upgraded it from 13.04 to 13.10. After update notify-send is broken. Desktop notifications aren't so beautiful than it was 13.04. Instead them, there are simple blue rectangles with the text
[14:12] <tnmind> Hello all, could anyone help me with an issue I am having with boot/efi failing to mount after upgrade to 13.10?
[14:12] <tnmind> Here is my boot summary file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6405180/
[14:15] <sandGorgon> does anyone know where I can download the "gnome-shell integration" plugin for firefox. I am using Firefox Aurora (alpha) and I'm unable to use extensions.gnome.org because of this missing extension
[14:17] <sergio__> Hello
[14:17] <sergio__> May I ask you a question?
[14:17] <daftykins> yes
[14:17] <sergio__> It's about the kernel
[14:18] <sergio__> Im trying to compile it
[14:18] <sergio__> But it's been like 3+ hours, and i think that its on an endless loop
[14:18] <sergio__> I think that terminal shows the same files on and on
[14:19] <sergio__> In fact, my free space is now 8 GB lower than it was before
[14:19] <sergio__> Which sounds rather excesive for a kernel
[14:20] <joshs> clam tk but keep getting that gui and antivirus engine are out dated, how do i update them?
[14:21] <glitsj16> sandGorgon: i believe doing a 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions' provides that, you'll need to restart firefox ofcourse
[14:21] <ObrienDave> joshs, sudo freshclam
[14:21] <joshs> i tried sudo freshclam but it didnt work
[14:21] <misterli> Okay.. ubuntu is not useable for me..  sensors shows: temp on PCI Adapter (Radeon-pci-0100) 118.0° and the pc get slower and slower and crash after that with the default drivers. ATI drivers does not work... :-/ Damn. I really starte dto love it
[14:23] <ObrienDave> joshs, might have to go to the website http://clamtk.sourceforge.net/
[14:23] <joshs> this is what it does
[14:23] <joshs> ERROR: /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log is locked by another process
[14:23] <joshs> ERROR: Problem with internal logger (UpdateLogFile = /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log).
[14:23] <sandGorgon> glitsj16, thanks!
[14:24] <CherryHillTony> I have 12.04, and I did have Skype, but I can't bring it up anymore!
[14:24] <glitsj16> sandGorgon: you're welcome, what should we be without extensions heh
[14:24] <ObrienDave> joshs, don't know about that problem
[14:25] <joshs> the website does no good either
[14:25] <philinux> joshs: are you chacking a win partition from ubuntu?
[14:26] <joshs> honestly, i am new to this and have no idea
[14:26] <cfhowlett> CherryHillTony, start skype from a terminal.  note any error messages
[14:26] <philinux> joshs: I dont have any av on ubuntu
[14:27] <joshs> i do run some stuff on wine
[14:27] <philinux> joshs: then it wont affect ubuntu
[14:28] <joshs> i would still like to know how to update clamtk
[14:28] <philinux> joshs: you only need av to check say a win partition on a dual boot etc
[14:28] <KaoticEvil> anyone know anything about dansguardian?
[14:28] <KaoticEvil> specifically, i want to set my main server box (also a torrent seedbox) up as a filter/proxy for my kids devices... but not filter my devices, or the server's access itself
[14:29] <Lexzuz> hello all
[14:29] <cfhowlett> Lexzuz, greetings
[14:29] <Lexzuz> haha can anyone guess what dist im on? xD
[14:29] <cfhowlett> Lexzuz, no.  do you have an ubuntu question?
[14:30] <joshs> it was all good until this morning. caught a virus here and there but took care of it easily. now its out of date and i can't update it
[14:30] <Lexzuz> yeah haha is it true that anonymous-OS is full of viruses?
[14:30] <cfhowlett> !ot|Lexzuz,
[14:31] <Lexzuz> anonymous-OS is made on ubuntu
[14:31] <Lexzuz> 10.11
[14:31] <cfhowlett> Lexzuz, made on but it is NOT ubuntu and not supported here.
[14:32] <Lexzuz> si this is a support channel only?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> Lexzuz, yes
[14:33] <bjensen82> I have setup nginx as a upstart task, however when I do a kill -9 on the nginx master process, it isnt spin up again by upstart. I have included respawn into the nginx.conf file. Start and stop works just fine
[14:34] <localg0d> hello everyone. I have a quick question. I have an assignment due in college and I'm trying to find someone from Liberia(WestAfrica)that would be able to answer some quick questions to help me finish that assignment.
[14:34] <localg0d> maybe if any of the ops are from that region or know a good website ?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> localg0d: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:42] <CherryHillTony> I'm new at terminal, what exactly do I type in it?
[14:42] <cfhowlett> CherryHillTony, type in skype
[14:43] <Terabyte> when I isntall apparmor,  apt-get install -y apparmor apparmor-profiles, running apparmor_status tells me apparmor module is not loaded. 12.04 64 bit LTS server.
[14:44] <CherryHillTony> ok i'll be back in a moment
[14:44] <dewdgang-frank> hello, real quick question: Every time I start my ubuntu from a VM and launch firefox it says that its already running. but its not. is there some kind of taskmanager to force quit any not responding firefox sessions that are in the background??
[14:44] <bjensen82> is it normal if I do kill -9 on a process being monitored by upstart, that it wont restart the process?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> dewdgang-frank, killall firefox should do it from the terminal. also, check the vm to verify you don't have ff set to autostart on login
[14:46] <CherryHillTony> Aborted (core dumped)
[14:46] <solars> hi, if I've got a windows installation (uefi) and want dualboot ubuntu, do I need to switch to legacy, or will this work with an uefi installation so I can select ubuntu and windows on boot?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> CherryHillTony: try renaming the Skype configuraion folder
[14:47] <tengelic> hello! what's the default permission of the / folder, please?
[14:47] <CherryHillTony> ?
[14:47] <Pici> tengelic: drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 Nov 29  2012 /
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> CherryHillTony: the skype config may be causeing issue, if you rename the folder then rerun you will get vanilla settings
[14:47] <tengelic> thanks, Pici!
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Pici: do you smell a chowner ;)
[14:48] <Pici> ActionParsnip: I hope not ;)
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Pici: what is the '22' in that output denoting?
[14:49] <cfhowlett> CherryHillTony, open your file manager. it should autopen your /home directory.  display hidden folders.  find .Skype.  select properties by right clicking on the folder.  rename it.  then start skype again.
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Pici: hmm, could be num of subdirs
[14:50] <tnmind> If anyone at all could assist with my boot/efi issue, I would very grateful. Details and logs are here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/375924/an-error-occured-while-mounting-boot-efi
[14:50] <Pici> ActionParsnip: number of 'links' to that path.  in this case, its because there are 21 subfolders.
[14:50] <Pici> ActionParsnip: hardlinks, I *think*
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Pici: makes sense, thanks :)
[14:53] <oaulakh> anyone know about good ubuntu themes?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> !theme
[14:55] <Togusa> guys, a question
[14:56] <oaulakh> like how to rotate diffrent screen in ubuntu?
[14:56] <Togusa> does ufw manage its own configuration regardless of what you set using iptables directly? i.e.: if you modify the rules and then you reboot
[14:56] <Togusa> shouldn't ufw restore its own rules
[14:56] <Togusa> and discard the manual changes?
[14:56] <jpds> Togusa: It does.
[14:56] <PaRaD0xxR> o, I didn't reboot
[14:57] <Sidewinder> In which directory are the default screensaver pictures located {12.04}? TIA.
[14:57] <Togusa> thanks, just wanted confirmation! :)
[14:59] <oaulakh> anyone know about necopost themes?
[15:00] <np8> Does anyone know how to sync (once) a one-way sync from ubuntu one sevice? I accidentally deleted the files from my computer and would like to get them back
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> np8: use your backups. You make backups right?
[15:01] <np8> ActionParsnip: Backups?
[15:01] <cfhowlett> :)
[15:01] <np8> I have all backup'ed in the ubuntu one cloud :)
[15:01] <oaulakh> anyone know about necopost themes, how they guys make it working in linux?
[15:02] <cfhowlett> !patience|oaulakh,
[15:03] <np8> But seriously, cant i just download a zip from the ubuntu one cloud?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> np8: yes, to a usb disk etc.
[15:03] <np8> ActionParsnip: I seriously should.
[15:04] <WeinribZ> hi
[15:04] <CherryHillTony> I've  just found out that because of an update, it wont work on my version anymore!
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> np8: people love learning the hard way
[15:05] <uczen16> hi
[15:05] <jmgk> hey
[15:05] <uczen16> how i can turn out a line?
[15:05] <uczen16> in terminal?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> uczen16: how do you mean 'turn out a line'?
[15:06] <np8> ActionParsnip: But i have the files still in the ubuntu one cloud, and i can download them "one by one". Theres still like hundreds of folders and thousands of files. It would take me ages to download them all and make the directories. Isn't there any easier ways to download them all at once?
[15:07] <pandamaster> I'm having issues with my computer
[15:07] <pandamaster> wireless card
[15:08] <donnib> hi, i have a problem with running apt-get upgrade i get http://pastebin.com/2YpxfeJj
[15:09] <Sidewinder> pandamaster, I'm no wireless expert but others may be better able to help you if you listed error messages, or other info about what is/is not happening.
[15:09] <Touhou11> pandamaster: Anything useful by running dmesg?
[15:10] <ciampix> hi all. I have a ubuntu 13.10 (I am an experienced user) amd64. It hangs for a while, some seconds to a minute or so. If I ctrl-alt-f1 and then ctrl-alt-canc it reboot instantly ... how can I check what is blocking?
[15:11] <pandamaster> when I click on the network button, I only shows wired potions, and doesn't notice that I have a wireless card.
[15:12] <Sidewinder> pandamaster, Have you tried unplugging your wired network cables and rebooting?
[15:12] <pandamaster> edit: when I click on the network button, it only shows the wired network auto etho0.
[15:12] <pandamaster> I've reboot multiple times
[15:12] <ciampix> pandamaster: laptop? Check first to have enabled the wireless card ... sometimes it is a blue key "Fn" + some function key...
[15:13] <Sidewinder> With the cables unplugged?
[15:13] <pandamaster> my computer has a wireless button, does that help?
[15:13] <alnkpa2> ciampix: in the terminal you get by ctrl-alt-f1 login and try "top"
[15:13] <alnkpa2> ciampix: without the "
[15:13] <jaami_> how to restart vino server?
[15:14] <ucz15> can anyone help me with terminal command?
[15:14] <ciampix> alnkpa2: if I do it I see only active tasks (cpu100%), not hanging tasks...
[15:14] <pandamaster> sorry, xchat closed for no reason.
[15:15] <numer_0> a
[15:15] <alnkpa2> ciampix: well, the "hanging" tasks should be active
[15:15] <pandamaster> I do have a blue functon key
[15:15] <ucz15> hi, can anyone help me with terminal command?
[15:15] <jaami_> please let me know the command to restart vino server
[15:15] <ciampix> pandamaster: then see if you find a function key with an antenna icon...
[15:15] <DJones> !details | ucz15
[15:16] <ucz15> i need to show lines
[15:16] <ucz15> i type cat passwd|nl|
[15:16] <pandamaster> I see that in the upper right corner of my keyboard
[15:16] <Sidewinder> Anyone know in which directory the default screensaver pictures are stored?
[15:17] <alnkpa2> ucz15: what kind of output do you want to see?
[15:17] <jaami_> do ypu ppl get this msg?
[15:17] <ucz15> and i need to see them in line 7,6,5
[15:17] <ucz15> not in 5,6,7
[15:18] <ciampix> pandamaster: ok if you press fn+function_key_with_antenna_icon and wait some minutes happens something?
[15:18] <ucz15> i type cat passwd|nl| head -7| tail -3
[15:18] <alnkpa2> ucz15: so you want the lines in reverse order?
[15:18] <ucz15> and it shows me 5,6,7 lines
[15:18] <ucz15> yes!
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> ucz15: cat -n /etc/passwd | head -n 7 | tail -n 3 | tac
[15:19] <pandamaster> the wireless key would glow blue when I was running windows, but now it doesn't do anything
[15:19] <x0011BF> I'm trying to resize (expand) my system partition, but GParted has the resize option greyed out. Is there something specific I need to do to allow that? There's a bunch of unallocated space right next to it.
[15:19] <ucz15> ok necermind, i got it!  thanks !
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> pandamaster: does the keyboard work?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> ucz15: you 'got it' by me telling you
[15:20] <pandamaster> yes, very well, and all of the function shortcuts too.  Including the media controls on top of the computer
[15:20] <ciampix> pandamaster: ok see if you need some proprietary drivers in the system setup...
[15:20] <alnkpa2> x0011BF: you would need to unmount the partition
[15:20] <Touhou11> x0011BF: Probably because you have it mounted. Try from a LiveCD
[15:21] <x0011BF> Hrm
[15:21] <x0011BF> It's a virtualbox.
[15:21] <ciampix> pandamaster: which version of *buntu do you have?
[15:21] <x0011BF> Oh, I guess I can do that anyway.
[15:21] <x0011BF> Right.
[15:21] <alnkpa2> x0011BF: best way would be to use the a livecd
[15:21] <x0011BF> Forgot that disk images exist.
[15:21] <pandamaster> okey I checked I do need to install a driver
[15:21] <x0011BF> Thanks alnkpa2 and Touhou11
[15:21] <pandamaster> ubuntu 11.04
[15:21] <ciampix> pandamaster: :-)
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> pandamaster: natty is eol
[15:22] <ciampix> pandamaster: ... then why not upgrade to al least 12.04?
[15:22] <pandamaster> my computer is too old to run 12.04
[15:23] <ciampix> pandamaster: system requirements of 11.04 and 12.04 are the same...
[15:23] <pandamaster> that's strange, I've had no issues with it when compared to 12.04...?
[15:24] <ciampix> pandamaster: ... and I doubt that you will be able to install proper wireless drivers to a version with repository that do not respond anymore...
[15:25] <pandamaster> I checked the forums, and I can proably install the drivers through the terminal
[15:25] <Guest14619> hello
[15:25] <n00k13> hi
[15:27] <ciampix> pandamaster: ... low on resurces? Try lubuntu! it is even quicker than 11.04 and there is a nice 13.10 version out there ... ;-)
[15:27] <ciampix> pandamaster: from lubuntu.org ...
[15:27] <pandamaster> I checked the forums again, and found a command that will determine what components I am using
[15:28] <arkie> hey for some reason i cant install nokogiri
[15:28] <Guest14619> anyone know how to use a good music downloader?
[15:28] <cpined> Morning, when  I launch Remmina to connect to a remote ubuntu box I get the login screen then I get the connection box and that's it.  I see that the login was good but nothing else happens, I do see a button at the bottom right hand corner but my mouse is'nt able to click it, it is frozen.
[15:29] <pandamaster> I checked the button again, and it said that my wireless card isn't ready yet.
[15:29] <arkie> i try sudo apt-get install nokogiri and it says E : Unable to locate package nokogiri
[15:29] <Guest14619> i used to use bearshare when i used windows.  So i'm fairly new to this linux/ubuntu stuff
[15:29] <ciampix> pandamaster: ... I have to insist: one of the reasons for which Linux is more secure than Windows is that there are more frequent updates ... please update to a more modern version!
[15:29] <arkie> If I do gem install nokogiri I get ERROR: While executing gem ... (Gem::FilePermissionError) You don't have write permissions into the usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8 directory
[15:30] <auronandace> !list | Guest14619
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest14619: www.clearbits.net   then use Transmission
[15:30] <pandamaster> it says something about an x86 thing being requred, and then my computer shuts down
[15:31] <ciampix> pandamaster: ... open a terminal and type: dmesg|grep firmware ... if you see something it is really easier to update to a modern ubuntu/lubuntu...
[15:32] <ciampix> pandamaster:  ... I have to go now ... bye!
[15:32] <lomandv> ubuntu studio不能使用ubuntu one了
[15:32] <pandamaster> a punch of numbers and letters talking about different computer stuff pops up
[15:34] <cpined> hello, anyone know why it takes up to a minute to get the password prompt when I ssh to a ubuntu box on my local network?  And then after entering the password it takes a long time to get on the box?
[15:35] <ciampix> pandamaster: ok your wireless is lacking a "firmware" that is a piece of proprietary software that the wireless card needs to work. Proprietary drivers have a copy of it inside and since your ubuntu is old you have no choice other than update and than install proprietary drivers for wireless.
[15:39] <joossee> hey is adamk around?
[15:43] <joossee> does anyone have a few minutes to help me troubleshoot fglrx driver issue? card is ATI FireMV2250 on ubuntu 12.04 64. basically, i just cant get it to work :(
[15:43] <joossee> HOWEVER: there is a fix, as I had the card working but 24 short hours ago
[15:43] <joossee> if i could turn back time... if i could find a waaaay
[15:43] <oaulakh> sci-fi themes like iron man movie have?
[15:43] <logikos> hi, i have a ubuntu LAMP server with apache2 and i have alot of experience with WHM/cPanel
[15:44] <logikos> without WHM/cPanel what is the best way to create a new web user
[15:44] <logikos> is there a good tutorial out there that you know of?
[15:44] <jaami> i lost connection
[15:44] <logikos> i've googled it and tryed to do some reading but nothing seems to answer the question really
[15:44] <logikos> so far
[15:45] <jaami> i forgot the nick wh was asking me about uni
[15:45] <jaami> who***
[15:46] <bean> logikos: you'd have to do a lot of it manually. Add the user, add them a vhost for apache, etc.
[15:47] <logikos> bean: i realize this, but i was hopeing there was a tutorial to walk me threw the steps to do it manualy
[15:47] <logikos> so that its less likely i screw something up
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: there's no "best" way to do such a thing. it's really dependent on your needs. WHM/cPanal simply have their way of doing things, but one of the main questions you have to ask are what the restrictions you want to place onn the individual users
[15:48] <logikos> hitsujiTMO: i mention cPanel just becuase that is how i've always done it, but now i'm working for a company with an in-house server running an application that is used in house, not public and they dont have cpanel
[15:48] <logikos> they created there primary site in /var/www/ which i think is really stupid
[15:49] <logikos> as in my experience everything should be under a specific user
[15:49] <logikos> so i want to create a user, and move that site to the users own public_html dir
[15:49] <logikos> i can create the user and i can cp the files and chown them all
[15:49] <logikos> then figure out where the vhosts are defined and point it to the right place
[15:49] <logikos> i know these are steps and i understand them (kinda)
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: that's a really bad way of doing it actually
[15:50] <logikos> but a step by step tutorial to make sure i dont miss anything would be helpful
[15:50] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: +1
[15:50] <logikos> hitsujiTMO: you have my attention
[15:50] <logikos> why is it bad?
[15:50] <logikos> i ask to learn, not to challenge
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: because the users then have to access the same 1 account. you have no audit trail, no restrictions, no nothing
[15:51] <logikos> 'users' ? the 'users' useing the current site do not have an account on the server, they have a username and password to the site, manauged by php
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: you want your sites under a group folder. not a user folder.
[15:52] <logikos> ok
[15:52] <logikos> where are group folders kept
[15:52] <logikos> so you would have permissions be 775 and 664 instead of 755 and 644
[15:52] <logikos> ?
[15:52] <logikos> i have little experience with groups
[15:52] <logikos> little to no experience
[15:53] <logikos> there are only 2 people (presently) who need ssh or ftp access to these files
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: where every you like. you can use /var/www as a group folder. or /srv/www .
[15:53] <vegombrei> logikos: hi how you doing?
[15:53] <Nach0z> I heard that the WUBI installer was done away with a few versions ago, someone confirm?
[15:54] <realman9994> whos
[15:54] <logikos> hitsujiTMO: my main reason for sugesting we move i tot a user folder is to get it out of /var/www/ because we are useing bitbucket and when we do a pull to /var/www ther eis a mix of permisions
[15:54] <logikos> different files are owned by different people
[15:54] <logikos> files created by php are owned by apache
[15:54] <logikos> files pulled are owned by the puller
[15:54] <logikos> php cant write to those files
[15:54] <logikos> its iritating
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: first questions: how many users need access to the server. how many users would work on a sigle site. and should a user have read/write access to a site he's not working on?
[15:55] <gordonjcp> logikos: you need to look at standard deployment techniques
[15:55] <logikos> 3 users have ssh access to the server, all 3 are sudo root
[15:55] <logikos> 2 users work on the site
[15:55] <Eugene_mac> Hello everyone! I have a mac-related problem described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186000 . Can anyone bother him/herself helping me with that?
[15:55] <arkie> im having trouble upgrading from ruby 1.8.7 to 1.9.2
[15:55] <logikos> both users with there own repos for testing, there repos are in seperate locations owned and grouped to there user
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: so its just 1 site on the server?
[15:55] <cpined> Morning, when  I launch Remmina to connect to a remote ubuntu box I get the login screen then I get the connection box and that's it.  I see that the login was good but nothing else happens, I do see a button at the bottom right hand corner but my mouse is'nt able to click it, it is frozen.  Can anyone please help?
[15:56] <logikos> vegombrei: hi, wasnt ignoring you, just tryin to figure something out
[15:56] <cpined> hello, anyone know why it takes up to a minute to get the password prompt when I ssh to a ubuntu box on my local network?  And then after entering the password it takes a long time to get on the box?  Can anyone please help?
[15:56] <logikos> gordonjcp: i'd love to.... i'm used to being the only developer ... lol
[15:56] <logikos> hitsujiTMO: right now, yes .. in the future .. who knows .. that is another reason why i thought we should move from /var/www and create a user for this site, incase we want another site later
[15:57] <vegombrei> logikos: how does one scan repositories to see if they have particular software??
[15:57] <logikos> but my thinking is wrong, please correct me, i wana do it right
[15:57]  * realman9994 
[15:57]  * realman9994 
[15:57] <FloodBot1> realman9994: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <Ari-Yang> I've heard about installing packages from newer ubuntu versions on old ones.... Is it okay to install Raring (13.04) .deb on Quantal (12.10)?
[15:57] <vegombrei> is there a corel draw x6 equavalant software in ubuntu??
[15:58] <logikos> vegombrei: not sure what your asking, right now there is one repo on bitbucket, 2 users have access, each user pulls that repo to ther eown user dir to develop and test, then they add, commit, and push back to the bitbucket repo
[15:58] <logikos> then from the production location we pull
[15:58] <logikos> i'm new to bitbucket and repos etc, been useing it now for the past 3 weeks
[15:58]  * realman9994 
[15:58] <logikos> this is the first i've had to work with other developers
[15:58] <logikos> used to being a sola act
[15:58] <logikos> solo
[15:58] <logikos> so i'm learning
[16:00] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: i'm gonna do a small description for you on a very simple setup on pastebin. there's a bit too much be writing it to the main chat
[16:03]  * realman9994 
[16:06] <linux> nnn
[16:06] <linux> mmm
[16:06] <linux> m
[16:06] <linux> mmmm..
[16:06] <linux> mmm,,
[16:06] <joossee> hey guys, I keep getting an error on login "Sorry the application amdcccle has closed unexpectedly". Details points to the amdcccle binary... ?
[16:06] <FloodBot1> linux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:06] <linux> mmm..
[16:06] <linux> m...
[16:07] <logikos> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[16:11] <np8> I must have messed up my partitioning system. The very first recovering steps are usually "sudo mount /dev/sdaX /mnt" and "sudo chroot /mnt". However, the latter command gives "chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory"-error. What should i do_
[16:11] <Rory> np8: Did "sudo mount /dev/sdXN /mnt" give an error?
[16:12] <np8> nope
[16:12] <Rory> np8: Can you please run the command "mount" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:12] <np8> ok
[16:13] <np8> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406068/
[16:13] <Rory> np8: Also what are you trying to do overall?
[16:16] <np8> Rory: 1) I Installed Ubuntu 13.10, with partitions for root, home and swap.  2) I had to do some alterning in the fstab to get the right folders to be mapped to /home. 3) I did "sudo mount -a" to see that it is working. 4) I tried to go on my windows 7 partition, but it would not open it, since it was "hibernated"
[16:19] <np8> 5) Tried to mount the windows 7 partition with sudo and read only > got the same kind of errors when trying to mount. 6) Tried to reboot on windows. Did not succeed. It jammed on black screen and blinking white line. 7) forced reboot, again same problem. 8) Tried to reboot on windows 7 recovery partition. Got red ERROR -word with font size 300. It said that could not open file C:/RECOVER.DAT
[16:20] <orbisvicis> how do I remove a broken package ?
[16:20] <orbisvicis> (apt-get refuses to do anything)
[16:21] <np8> 9) Tried to reboot on ubuntu. Got some error with had something to do with grub. And it did not start ubuntu, just a command-line likey thing. 10) Booted with Live-CD and now i want to reinstall grub to get my ubuntu and my partitions working..
[16:21] <ResQue> anyone know a good syslog server and log viewer that will run on linux and windows?
[16:22] <ResQue> i would prefer opensource
[16:22] <cristian_c> Hi
[16:22] <cristian_c> I've installed bustle
[16:22] <cristian_c> After I've launched it, I've got this message: 'No diagram loaded' 'Having saved the output of bustle-dbus-monitor' to a file , open that file to see a sequence diagram of D-Bus activity.'
[16:23] <cristian_c> How I solve this?
[16:23] <np8> Rory: I guess it has something to do with the editing of the fstab -file. Funny thing is that "sudo mount -a" gave no errors. The errors came in when i tried to reboot ubuntu. I guess this has nothing to do with the windows.
[16:23] <franco65> ciao
[16:23] <franco65> !list
[16:24] <franco65> !list
[16:24] <franco65> !list
[16:27] <jailbot> jailbot
[16:28] <cristian_c> I've also installed graphviz
[16:28] <np8> Rory: I found the reason for the error, it is because the /dev/sda5 i mounted did not contain bin/sh, as it should.
[16:28] <cristian_c> But nothing has changed :(
[16:28] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: here's a really simple setup to gove you an idea http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406130/
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, seems paste.ubuntu.com sucks for word wrapping :P
[16:30] <Nach0z> lol
[16:30] <np8> I am really in a deep trouble now then. The other "partition" contains swap but it still looks to be like >100Gt
[16:30] <logikos> hitsujiTMO: ty, reading
[16:31] <np8> so my ubuntu partition has somehow 'merged' with my swap partition..
[16:32] <np8> and i cannot edit the fstab - file since it is inside the 'merged' partion.
[16:32] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: it should give you an idea of what bits to start looking into. things like g+s flag, etc
[16:32] <Rory> !grub | np8 try following the first link here if you aren't already
[16:32] <joossee> where is the brug config file located?
[16:32] <joossee> grub
[16:32] <np8> How can i burn a CD with live CD ubuntu? is it possible?
[16:33] <wheatthin> np8, do you have multiple burners/roms?
[16:33] <np8> nope..
[16:33] <wheatthin> np8, how about a flash drive?
[16:34] <np8> But i have a mobile phone. (android). and luckily the only partition which shows up has all the important stuff
[16:34] <np8> wheatthin: yes
[16:34] <wheatthin> one that can be formatted?
[16:34] <np8> wheatthin: mobile phone == flash drive?
[16:35] <wheatthin> np8, no, it has to be like a jump drive
[16:35] <np8> well. maybe and usb stick somewhere.
[16:35] <np8> an"
[16:35] <wheatthin> np8, I'd use that, and use dd to copy the iso image to the jump drive, then boot from the jump drive
[16:37] <rian> bnb
[16:37] <logikos> hitsujiTMO: i'm used to useing chmod with bits rather than the flags so chmod g+ws doesnt make much sence to me ... i'm used to and understand 755 (rwxr-xr-x) or 644 (rw-r--r--)  or 777 (rwxrwxrwx) looking at chmod g+ws ... i assume that adds 'w' to the group chaning 644 to 664 or 755 to 775 ?
[16:37] <wheatthin> logikos, it just means you're setting permission at group level
[16:40] <joossee> guys i noticed i am running and fglrx 13.2 beta. Is there a way to revert to an earlier version of fglrx?
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: g+w  gives group writing permission. so turns 644 to 664. the g+s is a setgid bit so that any file or folder retains created in that folder retains the parents group rather than the creators group. http://www.linuxnix.com/2011/12/sgid-set-sgid-linuxunix.html   this might be better at explaining
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> ignore that first retains
[16:42] <geirha> logikos: If you want to learn more about unix permissions, I recommend  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions
[16:43] <Rory> np8 and everyone generally: If your Android phone is rooted there's a cool app that lets you boot your PC from just an iso as if it were a bootable flash drive. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.softwarebakery.drivedroid
[16:43] <Rory> I find it saves time if you boot from images a lot
[16:44] <Rory> Probably not worth rooting your phone just for that though, so procede as usual if that doesn't apply to you
[16:44] <np8> Rory: Ok thanks :)
[16:44] <Rory> joossee: You can switch between them in the Additional Drivers tool
[16:45] <joossee> Rory, additional drivers has never shown anything...?
[16:45] <Rory> joossee: How did you install the 13.2 driver?
[16:45] <joossee> Rory, i think i erroneously added the update repo or some other bogus repo...?
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> joossee xorg edgers?
[16:46] <Rory> joossee: Could you please put on http://paste.ubuntu.com the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[16:46] <cpined> Hello, I have a Remmina problem.
[16:46] <joossee> right away
[16:46] <Rory> cpined: Go ahead and ask
[16:46] <jaatrox> hey guys
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: the easiest way to swap down is prob with ppa-purge
[16:48] <Rory> joossee: You could try first "sudo apt-get --purge remove fglrx fglrx-updates"
[16:48] <joossee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406225/
[16:48] <Rory> joossee: Yes I see xorg-edgers in there
[16:48] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, Rory yes thats what the forums seemed to indicate. I should try that now? my ppa's are on the pastbinb above
[16:49] <Rory> joossee: sudo apt-get -y install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers/ppa
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | joossee
[16:50] <joossee> Rory, ok done. few errors about not being able to find package for "xorg-edgers/p ppa"
[16:50] <helmut_> hi
[16:50] <Rory> joossee: Did you mis-type
[16:50] <Rory> joossee: Copy and paste my command exactly. To paste to a terminal use ctrl-shift-V
[16:50] <DrDittersdorf> Hi guys. I used this guide to share my virtual machine with host http://superuser.com/questions/258026/using-samba-to-share-a-folder-from-a-linux-guest-with-a-windows-host-in-virtualb . but I don't have WRITE permissions. What do i do wrong?
[16:50] <joossee> miss cutted and pasted. xchat a little wonky my bad
[16:51] <joossee> hrmmm still same error
[16:51] <joossee> sudo apt-get -y install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers/ppa
[16:51] <Rory> joossee: Could you pastebin the command you ran and the full output? To copy from a terminal use ctrl-shift-C
[16:52] <cristian_c> Another question
[16:52] <joossee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406242/
[16:52] <cristian_c> How can I disable the mysql auto-load?
[16:53] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[16:53] <wheatthin>  autoload?
[16:53] <cristian_c> wheatthin, yes
[16:53] <wheatthin> you mean from upstart?
[16:53] <cristian_c> wheatthin, when the system boots, mysql is loaded
[16:54] <wheatthin> cristian_c, sudo update-rc.d mysql disable
[16:54] <Rory> joossee: try sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers
[16:54] <cristian_c> wheatthin, ok
[16:54] <Rory> joossee: I'm not completely up on the syntax so I think I made a mistake the first time
[16:54] <logikos> hitsujiTMO, geirha: ty, will read up
[16:54] <logikos> ty for the resources
[16:55] <joossee> Rory, same error as last lines of pastebin
[16:55] <logikos> i understand the binary of rwx rwx rwx
[16:55] <logikos> wasnt sure how +s played in ..
[16:56] <lucido> how come my X doesn't start with the resolution I defined in my xorg.conf?
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: is xorg-edgers source in /etc/apt/sources.list ? or in a seperate file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> lucido: check in /var/log/xorg.0.log
[16:56] <wheatthin> lucido, cause it's dynamically set
[16:56] <nicexe> I am on 9.04. I have some unallocated space on a USB flash drive of mine. How can I add a partition if I don't know the user's password? (in other words I need to create a partition to some unallocated space as not root)
[16:56] <cristian_c> wheatthin, update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/mysql missing LSB information      update-rc.d: see <http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts>    System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/mysql do not exist.
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> nicexe: Jaunty is dead and gone (thankfully)
[16:56] <Rory> joossee: OK we will do it manually. Can you please pastebin "ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[16:57] <wheatthin> cristian_c, sorry, can try   sudo service mysql disable
[16:57] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, Rory oh yes i see it there as a .list file?
[16:57] <joossee> also a xubuntu one
[16:58] <lucido> ActionParsnip, wheatthin , it shouldn't be dinamically set if there is a definition in xorg.conf (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406251/). Here's my X log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406249/  First it recognizes the modeline and validates it but then it says it changes it to "NULL"
[16:58] <nicexe> ActionParsnip: Well I can't upgrade because even if I leave the password textbox blank (which is my password) it is still not accepted
[16:58] <nicexe> also I am not doing a clean install
[16:58] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, does not appear in sources.list
[16:58] <cristian_c> wheatthin, Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service mysql disable     The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, but disable is not supported for Upstart jobs.
[16:59] <wheatthin> lucido, yes, unless it's being overwritten once again by another resource
[16:59] <computerguy> is there any command in ubuntu linux to install cisco packet tracer?
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: that's ok then. you used apt-add-repository then. so ppa-purge "should" work
[16:59] <joossee> xubuntu-dev-xfce-4_12-precise.list
[17:00] <geirha> joossee, Rory: only files ending with *.list inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ are used, so   tail -n+1 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list}   would yield a more correct output
[17:00] <computerguy> anyone tell what command works for installing packet tracer?
[17:00] <Rory> joossee: You could remove the xorg-edgers repository and then run this script to identify all the packages it installed
[17:00] <Rory> joossee: for p in $(dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | cut -f1); do apt-cache madison $p | grep edgers; done
[17:00] <lucido> wheatthin, something's wrong because if I don't have an xorg.conf, then it starts with 1024x768 and if I have then it says in the log that it also starts with 1024x768 but my lcd tv cant diplay it in that case
[17:00] <Rory> Sorry if there's a massively better way
[17:00] <nicexe> I am on 9.04. The system spams at me at every opportunity to upgrade. I can't do it because when I leave the password blank the window just closes. (my password is blank)
[17:01] <joossee> Rory, ok so i paste that intoa .sh file and run it?
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[17:01] <Rory> nicexe: You could change your password, your password can't be blank
[17:01] <adamk> lucido: Pasatebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[17:01] <Rory> joossee: No, just paste it in the terminal, it will tell you what packages came from that repository
[17:02] <joossee> oh hitsujiTMO 's way seems to be doing something
[17:02] <Rory> OK great
[17:02] <lucido> adamk, xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406251/  Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406249/
[17:02] <joossee> ...
[17:03] <lucido> and I already upgraded to a modern graphics card
[17:03] <joossee> oh there we go. disabling the ppa and now downloading a bunch of stuffs? hitsujiTMO ?
[17:03] <Snake2k> Hello everyone, I just installed windows 7 on a separate primary partition of my drive, now im in windows but I don't get the grub selection at boot anymore, it just boots straight into windows.
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: it should be bringing you back to whats in the repo
[17:03] <Snake2k> Anyone know how i can fix that?
[17:03] <joossee> oh ok great
[17:04] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, and Rory so once this completes i should reinstal fglrx with "sudo apt-get install fglrx"?
[17:04] <Rory> !grub | Snake2k first link here
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> Snake2k: run this from a live cd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:04] <adamk> lucido: Sorry, I'm really not familiar with how th envidia driver does things. I'm surprised, though, that the nvidia GUI config program doesn't have an option to select a resolution and have it use it by default.
[17:04] <Snake2k> Thanks Rory & hitsujiTMO
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: this should install the fglrx in the repo
[17:05] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, roger that. i will reboot when completed and report back.
[17:05] <joossee> oh boy
[17:05] <lucido> adamk, yes, prolem is that X sets modes two time, see log lines: 218 and 334
[17:06] <Guest194> Hi, I cannot install wine on Xubuntu 13.10 Live CD: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: wine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu7) but it is not installable"
[17:06] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, Rory got a crash notice "a problem occured while installing software" package fglrx
[17:06] <Rory> joossee: Could you pastebin the full output?
[17:06] <cristian_c> wheatthin, How can I solve?
[17:06] <joossee> Rory, its not text?
[17:06] <Rory> joossee: Where are you seeing it?
[17:07] <Rory> Guest194: Could you run from a terminal: "sudo apt-get install wine1.4" and put the full output on http://paste.ubuntu.com - to copy and paste from a terminal use ctrl-shift-C
[17:07] <joossee> in a crash report window in unity Rory
[17:07] <lucido> adamk, it does have but I think that is for the session and not the display manager screen
[17:07] <wheatthin> cristian_c, I had already suggested   'sudo service mysql disable'   without quotes
[17:08] <joossee> rory error is "fglrx 2:8.960-0ubuntu1.1: fglrx kernel module failed to build
[17:08] <cpined> hello, can someone help me with a ssh question?
[17:08] <adamk> lucido: Sorry, I really don't know what would be doing this.  With open source drivers, you'd create a modeline (as you did) and use the PrefferedMode option in the appropriate Monitor section.
[17:08] <cristian_c> wheatthin, but I've not tried with quotes
[17:08] <cristian_c> without quotes
[17:08] <Guest194> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406313/
[17:09] <Rory> joossee: You should "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --purge remove fglrx fglrx-updates" and then "sudo apt-get install fglrx"
[17:09] <cristian_c> wheatthin, and I get that error message
[17:09] <cristian_c> :(
[17:09] <lucido> adamk, hm I'll try a PrefferedModeoption
[17:09] <Rory> Guest194: Can you now run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[17:10] <Guest194> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406320/
[17:10] <Rory> Guest194: Did you already run sudo apt-get update?
[17:11] <cristian_c> wheatthin, any other ideas?
[17:11] <Guest194> Rory: done, I get the same output
[17:11] <joossee> Rory, ok done seemed to have reinstalled with no errors in console but crash report persists. i believe there is a bug in crash reporting where it may report old errors. rebboting and coming back
[17:13] <Guest194> This is my apt-cache policy wine1.4: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406331/
[17:13] <Rory> Guest194: Try sudo apt-get install wine --no-install-recommends
[17:13] <wheatthin> cristian_c, http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/recommended-way-to-enable-disable-services
[17:14] <Guest194> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406340/
[17:15] <Rory> Guest194: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[17:16] <joossee> Rory, hitsujiTMO success. thanks guys!
[17:16] <Rory> !yay
[17:16] <cristian_c> wheatthin, done
[17:18] <wheatthin> congrats
[17:18] <cristian_c> wheatthin, when I reboot, I can check if the command has worked
[17:19]  * joossee is back in all his dual screen glory!
[17:20] <joossee> now the way that I got into this mess was trying to fix a very slow dash home button in unity. Is there any fixes for this? Can I replace it with something else like a start button or just speed it up? it worked well with the open vesa drivers but no good with fglrx ...?
[17:21] <Guest194> Rory: works, thanks. But that-s strange because I can not find the reference to dpkg --add-architecture in the Ubuntu community wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[17:21] <joossee> ive done a lot of reading on the forums but that only lead to me replacing fglrx with some wonky versions
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> joossee: could switch to Gnome shell :)
[17:21] <joossee> ActionParsnip, i would like that very much!
[17:21] <joossee> ActionParsnip, i had a bad experience trying lxde
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> joossee: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> joossee: log off and choose the new session in the login screen befor eyou log on
[17:22] <joossee> ActionParsnip, and then pick it from the lgoin drop down? i will be able to come back to unity if i panic right?
[17:22] <joossee> woot
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> joossee: sure, you can have as many desktops and shells installed as you desire
[17:23] <joossee> oohh only 71megs
[17:23] <deezed> hey, what do you guys think is the best backup software if I'm using kde?
[17:23] <pirret> tar
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[17:24] <joossee> lol
[17:24] <Rory> deezed: Doesn't Kubuntu come with a backup tool anyway?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> probably kbackup or similar
[17:25] <deezed> Rory: I was wondering that. didnt find any
[17:25] <zoggg> hey, anyone want to buy a brand new never opened 4gb ram stick?
[17:25] <zoggg> i have no need for it
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> deezed: search the k menu fr the word backup, see what comes up
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> zoggg: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:26] <zoggg> thats not offtopic
[17:26] <zoggg> every ubuntu machine runs on RAM
[17:26] <deezed> ActionParsnip: I did, there was nothing. anyway I'm just gonna try the kbackup, installing it from synaptics
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> deezed: that was a guess :)
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> deezed: we use backula here where I work :)
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> deezed: myself, I use rsync from file server to USB drive
[17:28] <Rory> What's that image viewer that has simple tools built in like cropping and flipping?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Rory: gthumb ?
[17:29] <deezed> ActionParsnip: uhm.. I actually did many backups 2 years ago. But I would apreciate if I find something with great sync properties.
[17:29] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Ah yes you were right, it was hidden under a sidebar
[17:32] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.  When I # sort file.txt > file.txt why does it obliterate the file and not repace it with sorted text?
[17:33] <zykotick9> JokesOnYou77: 1) why are you root and 2) just use a different filename instead of trying to overwrite the originoal
[17:33] <lucido> how can I change the login screen resolution and is there any advantage in using nvidia-331 over nvidia-304?
[17:33] <zykotick9> lucido: any nvidia driver over 310 would be a benefit (that's when Steam/Nvidia/Ubuntu started working together)
[17:34] <lucido> zykotick9, what would be the benefit?
[17:34] <zykotick9> lucido: better performance in 3D
[17:34] <JokesOnYou77> zykotick9: I'm running one of my servers as root as a dev testing environment.  And I know how to get around it.  I'm trying to igure out why it's not working in the first place.  I thought > would redirect stdout to the file?  But that doesn't seem to be happening...
[17:35] <zykotick9> JokesOnYou77: your asking your input and output to be the same... this is a problem
[17:36] <eric_30> hey! anyone who can help me get my wireless up and going with ubuntu server?
[17:36] <JokesOnYou77> zykotick9: Ok.  So I can't use the same file as input and output stream?
[17:36] <JokesOnYou77> zykotick9: bummer. But thank you
[17:36] <zykotick9> JokesOnYou77: not ususally, and not in this case.
[17:37] <abradley> I've changed my password with passwd and it says "changed successfully" but when restart putty and ssh back in it still requires old password. restart of ubu doesn't fix
[17:41] <testpil0t> abradley, can you somehow paste the output ?
[17:41] <cpined> can anyone please help me with a simple ssh question?
[17:41] <testpil0t> usually this shouldnt happen, if the password has been successfully changed
[17:41] <abradley> I had to use passwd <user>
[17:41] <testpil0t> cpined, dont ask to ask. just ask
[17:41] <abradley> I was just usign "passwd"
[17:41] <abradley> got it now, thanks
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> cpined  if you're sweet
[17:41] <testpil0t> yes
[17:42] <cpined> I'll try my best :)
[17:43] <cpined> lately when I ssh onto my ubuntu box on my local network from any pc it takes almost a minute to get the password prompt and then it takes a while to actually get on the box, if I ssh localhost from the said box it is fine.
[17:44] <olegb> cpined: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/slow-ssh ?
[17:45] <cpined> olegb: I will give it a try...although I use the IP address, would that matter?
[17:46] <chtochingo_> hello friends
[17:46] <chtochingo_> how is it going
[17:46] <chtochingo_> fuck you
[17:46] <olegb> cpined: if it tries to lookup the IP and fails (retries ... fails)
[17:47] <ArchBastard> chtochingo, lol
[17:47] <olegb> cpined: I would try to "UseDNS no"
[17:48] <cpined> olegb:Ok trying now :)
[17:48] <killer> I recently updated my app and it has a status "published" on ubuntu site but it is not searchable in software center
[17:49] <trism> killer: might ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[17:49] <cpined> olegb:Do I need to add the client ip to /etc/hosts for every client?
[17:49] <cpined> olegb:Do I neet to restart after modifying the sshd_config file?
[17:51] <MrYaah> Is there a headless / minimal install for ubuntu? I'd like to set up ubuntu with bspwm without preinstalling a different desktop environment
[17:51] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD   MrYaah
[17:52] <MrYaah> and this one has no graphical environment?
[17:53] <bean> MrYaah: any "server" iso will not have a gui.
[17:54] <cpined> olegb:Sweet! that worked...muchas thanks!
[17:55] <olegb> :-)
[17:55] <cpined> on to the next pain
[17:55] <MrYaah> cool, ty. I'll play around with them. I think im going to use the minimal cd since other sources seem to imply it doesnt have a gui either
[17:56] <joossee> ok so i am liking gnome a lot better BUT it crashes whenever i make display changes (wallapaper) or to panels... ?
[17:56] <cpined> I have Remmina....when I try to connect to another ubuntu box running same OS version I can't get pass the login page/report...I see an ok button but it is not clickable
[17:56] <joossee> http://google.ca
[17:56] <cpined> please can anyone help me with that?
[17:59] <Danato> hitsujitmo: Are you there?
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> MrYaah, be warned that minimal cd does not work with uefi systems.
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: yessum
[18:00] <cpined> please, can anyone help with another problem?  Remmina?
[18:00] <bean> !patience | cpined
[18:00] <Danato> cool, ive got a new reply, but ive got no idea how to do what he asked https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250051
[18:01] <cpined> ok...I'm new to this...I was not aware of any protocal, thanks.
[18:02] <joossee> guys I am trying to add the gnome3 PPA and I want to make sure it using the PPA for 12.04. it mentions something about 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to make sure... what do I do?
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: he's asking you to install the 3.12 kernel to see if it fixes the issue
[18:03] <Danato> hitsujitmo: and how do i do that?
[18:04] <oswin> Hi ! Does anyone know how I can configure scrolling to scroll line by line ? Instead of 3 lines
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: what's the output of: uname -a
[18:05] <Danato> hitsujitmo: Linux danato-Lenovo-G780 3.11.0-13-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 23 07:38:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:08] <Rory> oswin: In Firefox?
[18:09] <Rory> oswin: In Firefox go to about:config and find mousewheel.min_line_scroll_amount
[18:11] <ripthejacker> how do I add the ppa for the latest kernel in the software sources?
[18:12] <ripthejacker> This is url for the packages, but how do i add this to the software sources
[18:12] <ripthejacker> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> lads is there no linux-image-extras with the mainline kernels?
[18:12] <hht> hi, how to open windows 7 registry from ubuntu system?
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you run these to get the mainline kernel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406630/
[18:16] <Danato> hitsujitmo: ok
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: let me know if there are any errors
[18:16] <Rory> ripthejacker: There isn't a repository you can add, but there are some more detailed answers here http://askubuntu.com/questions/160535/how-do-i-add-the-mainline-kernel-ppa
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: onces that's done reboot. if you have a problem booting the new kernel, just choose the 3.11 kernel to come back here again and we can remove the 3.12 kernel again
[18:18] <Danato> hitsujitmo: where will that option be?
[18:18] <oswin> Rory, no, in the system, for the trackpad
[18:18] <trism> hitsujiTMO: -extra was dropped recently on mainline builds: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2013-April/027820.html
[18:19] <ripthejacker> Rory: the pre-proposed contain the same packages as the one in that url?
[18:19] <oswin> Rory, I tried to find the right property in xinput but nothing seems to match this
[18:19] <ripthejacker> I mean the same version of the kernel?
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: at the grub boot menu, its normally hidden so you'll have to either hold left shift or right shift or hit esc to bring up the grub menu.
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> trism: cheers for that
[18:20] <Danato> hitsujitmo: noted
[18:21] <ripthejacker> Danato: it will be in the advanced option for ubuntu
[18:21] <ripthejacker> in the boot menu
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> once its installed try a reboot to see if the kernel will boot, and if thats ok, we'll disable the brightness script to see if the kernel fixes it or not
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> danato^
[18:22] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: got that part
[18:23] <Danato> so far its the third dong bar growing :P
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: i've no leave/join messages displayed so please ping me when you're back
[18:24] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: no problem
[18:24] <cpined> can someone please help me with a bizarre Remmina issue?
[18:33] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: I got an error
[18:34] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: dpkg: error processing linux-headers-3.12.0-031200-generic (--install):
[18:34] <Danato>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you paste the exact error?
[18:34] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: dpkg:  Errors were encountered while processing:
[18:34] <Danato>  linux-headers-3.12.0-031200-generic
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you install the other one first then try that again
[18:35] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: sure
[18:36] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: it worked
[18:36] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: all done, gonna reboot now
[18:37] <linuxuser1000> hello
[18:38] <Johnny_Linux>  
[18:38] <linuxuser1000> i've upgraded my xfce terminal to 0.6.2-3.Is that version final
[18:38] <linuxuser1000> i needed it for the encoding menu bug fix
[18:39] <linuxuser1000> i got it from the trusty purposed
[18:39] <linuxuser1000> i wonder if it's final
[18:39] <linuxuser1000> or if i should downgrade
[18:41] <gumble_> hey, I wanted to alias my /opt/lampp/lampp, so that I don't have to enter the whole path every time. if I only enter lampp to the terminal, it does execute /opt/lampp/lampp. but when I "sudo lampp start" I get: sudo: lampp: command not found
[18:44] <gumble_> ah found my mistake
[18:48] <Jinxy> I can't ssh into my server
[18:48] <Jinxy> no idea why
[18:48] <Jinxy> would deleting my local hosts file help this?
[18:49] <Jinxy> or at least emptying its contents
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> Jinxy: whats the error?
[18:49] <Jinxy> So weird, literally just today I try to ssh in and it goes 'Connection Refused'
[18:50] <Jinxy> it's definitely the right address...I was setting up ssh keys yesterday to maybe
[18:50] <vAd0r> would ubuntu be considered suse or red hat
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> Jinxy: try adding the -v flag
[18:50] <Jinxy> okay...
[18:51] <daftykins> vAd0r: neither, they're all different
[18:51] <vAd0r> im trying to get it loaded on this old hp ml350. It will go through the entire install like it is working and then it will not boot up
[18:52] <Jinxy> hitsujiTMO: Well that worked! Thankyou very much. Bit confused though, I thought -v would specify verbosity? Why would that make it work? And why do you think this would happen in the first place?
[18:53] <Pricey> Jinxy: Exactly.
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> Jinxy: erm, it shouldn't have worked. -v is verbosity alright. must have been a kink in the network somewhere
[18:54] <Jinxy> hmm still, it's nice to know I can look at the login process to get a better idea of what's going on. Thanks again :))))
[18:57] <craigbass1976> Is there some level or RAM where Ubuntu won't register any more than that?
[18:57] <craigbass1976> I'm aware of my grammar BTW, just didn't think it through...
[18:58] <reisio> craigbass1976: not that you can afford, no
[18:58] <reisio> craigbass1976: however some BIOSes/mobos are hard coded to only accept so much
[19:00] <hitsujiTMO> craigbass1976: as reisio was saying, most chipsets in desktop market atm have a 32GB RAM limit
[19:01] <thebishop> is there anywhere to order Canonical swag from the US?  I was going to get a mug, but it's 14gbp just for shipping
[19:01] <craigbass1976> thebishop, where's it going?
[19:01] <thebishop> craigbass1976, Philadelphia, USA
[19:03] <paqu> Hi
[19:04] <paqu> anyone?
[19:04] <daftykins> paqu: just ask
[19:05] <paqu> tl-wn722n  u12.04
[19:06] <paqu> anyone can help with this usb card?
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> !details | paqu
[19:08] <paqu> ok , so i tried install this card, but it wont works, it seems to turn on for a while but when i try to select my wifi connection nothing happens
[19:08] <paqu> lshw gives
[19:08] <paqu>  description: Wireless interface
[19:08] <paqu>        physical id: 1
[19:08] <paqu>        bus info: usb@1:6
[19:08] <paqu>        logical name: wlan0
[19:08] <FloodBot1> paqu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <paqu>        serial: f8:1a:67:1c:f4:70
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: is the new Kernel working?
[19:17] <manu> hello
[19:19] <heavyammo> Hi. I am trying to disable my nVidia card on my laptop and only use the Intel one. I did some Googling but a lot of different things and methods are coming up and I am confused. Can you guys help?? Here are my hardware specs if that's relevant
[19:19] <heavyammo> I have bumblebee installed btw
[19:25] <heavyammo> sudo apt-get install bbswitch
[19:25] <heavyammo> :/
[19:26] <heavyammo> E: Unable to locate package bbswitch
[19:27] <DJones> heavyammo: Maybe its a more specific package name http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bbswitch&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all
[19:27] <OerHeks> dkms & source
[19:28] <Terabyte> why doesn't this chmod command work given that I own the folder: http://codepad.org/pooGZYkK
[19:29] <OerHeks> there is a better way to use hybrid nvidia > bumblebee
[19:29] <OerHeks> heavyammo ^^
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> Terabyte  try ith sudo
[19:30] <UUser> anyone can help me gettting graphics to work in codeblocks? I m new to codeblocks IDE
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> with*
[19:30] <heavyammo> DJones, thanks
[19:31] <heavyammo> OerHeks, do you mean better than the stock settings of bumblebe
[19:31] <heavyammo> or just using bumblebee
[19:31] <UUser> anyone can help me gettting graphics to work in codeblocks? I m new to codeblocks IDE
[19:31] <UUser> anyone?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !anyone | UUser
[19:32] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: are you there?
[19:32] <jmgk> !anyone
[19:32] <jmgk> hm
[19:32] <UUser> what happened MonkeyDust?
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: yes, is the new kernel booting?
[19:33] <OerHeks> heavyammo, bbswitch is part of the bumblebee package afaik >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[19:33] <UUser> Does anyone can help me gettting graphics to work in codeblocks? I m new to codeblocks IDE.
[19:33] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: hardly, i could only login with unity, but thats all I could do. I couldnt connect to internet with it, so i tried to use my phone to talk to you here but it was hard
[19:33] <heavyammo> OerHeks, it turns out so yes ;) But I want to disable ot completely, I feel like it's on sometimes because of the heat
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> UUser  stop asking if you can ask a question, pleaqse, just ask the question
[19:35] <UUser> i've been asking the question; can anyone help me getting graphics to work in codeblocks IDE?
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: looks like your wifi/ethernet doesn't work with it. have you booted back to 3.11?
[19:35] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: if its possible to do it offline, i could look for another irc app and keep talking here
[19:35] <heavyammo> MonkeyDust, I feel like I've seen you here like.... some years back. Are you paid support?
[19:35] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: yeah
[19:35] <jmgk> UUser:  what specifically is wrong?
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> UUser  dezcribe the problem in detail and in one line, then wait if someone knows the answer
[19:37] <UUser> jmgk: I m new to this IDE.. We are taught turbo cc with the BGI graphics header but i really dont like to use this compiler.. damn old it is.. want to move to gcc compiler along with codeblocks ide
[19:37] <UUser> but dont know how to use graphics in CB..
[19:38] <joossee> hi guys. I switched from Unity to Gnome and it crashes ALOT, mostly when making changes to desktop like panels or wallapaper. I installed the Gnome3 PPA and it did a number of updates, but still gnome crashes all the time and therror seems to be "gnome-panel crashed with SIGFPE in g_closure_invoke{}"
[19:39] <Jinxy> so `/etc/rc.local` is where you can run commands on startup, where do I write commands to be run on shutdown?
[19:40] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: if you can, comment out the backlight script in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup, then reboot to 3.12 kernel and see if the backlight work without the script, edit  /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup again, reenable the script and rebott back into the 3.11 kernel and we'll remove 3.12 kernel
[19:40] <heavyammo> joossee, yesterday I installed gnome flashback, it was buggy, weird and it crashed my entire system finally, I reinstalled
[19:40] <heavyammo> ... just saying :P
[19:41] <joossee> heavyammo, "reinstalled" ...?
[19:43] <heavyammo> joossee, as in reinstalled my entire system / ubuntu. I was not able to log in after I rebooted. But that's just me, I don't know linux too well, I don''t know about your level of knowledge
[19:43] <joossee> heavyammo, marginally higher than that :)
[19:44] <apullz> hey guys
[19:44] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: commented, going for another reboot now
[19:44] <heavyammo> joossee, ;p xfce wtf though
[19:45] <apullz> I'm trying to install windows because my ubuntu is so buggy and I'm a noob. I've downloaded 3 different ISOs for windows 7 but when i extract them or mount them it says there is no files
[19:45] <apullz> they can't all be corrup
[19:45] <joossee> heavyammo, i had worse problems with xfce :(
[19:45] <apullz> t
[19:45] <apullz> help meeeeeee
[19:45] <heavyammo> joossee,  but if you are from the old school I guess you would go back to gnome
[19:45] <joossee> apullz, #windows brah
[19:45] <apullz> no, im using ubunu atm
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> apullz  better ask in ##windows how to install windows
[19:45] <apullz> and ubuntu won't let me get rid of ubuntu
[19:45] <joossee> well if unity wasnt such a laggy turd on my video card, id stick with it but ...
[19:46] <tjbiddle> Hey guys - I have a package that was kept in an in-house repository that seems to have been removed. It's still on some machines, can I pull the .deb from a server when it was installed through apt-get?
[19:46] <pseudorandom> Hi everybody, I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 however I can't boot now I have the message 'error: file not found' and grub rescue command line. I have gparted livecd i tried grub-install but it doesn't work either ("Path '/boot/grub is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting") what can I do?
[19:46] <joossee> apullz, repartition your drives or erase the partitions and remake them in winblows, you can do this from your BIOS likely
[19:46] <heavyammo> apullz, why don't you just try to get support, fix ubuntu, ditch linux
[19:46] <pseudorandom> I don't have any spare DVDs for burning an ubuntu live dvd :(
[19:47]  * joossee nods at heavyammo 
[19:47] <apullz> Can't partition from the BIOS
[19:47] <apullz> also, only have a windows USB
[19:47] <apullz> and one SSD i need to get windows on
[19:47] <apullz> but i currently have ubuntu on it and its too glitchy to let me do anything
[19:47] <joossee> apullz, sounds like you need $107 and a trip to bestbuy
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> apullz  this is not the windows support channel, type /join ##windows   (that's double #)
[19:48] <apullz> i'm not sure you understand the problem
[19:48] <OerHeks> apullz, not really an ubuntu issue
[19:48] <apullz> im asking how to fix ubuntu
[19:48] <airtonix> apullz: oh ok
[19:48] <joossee> yeah we understand, its not a #ubuntu problem
[19:48] <apullz> it is an ubuntu problem
[19:48] <Pici> apullz: it sounds like you're asking how to install Windows.
[19:48] <airtonix> apullz: describe the problem then. (without newlines)
[19:48] <apullz> IM ASKING ABOUT A PREREQUISITE TO INSTALL WINDOWS
[19:49] <airtonix> apullz: oh is that a ubuntu problem?
[19:49] <joossee> apullz, call Hp then brah. figure out how to partition your drives.
[19:49] <apullz> hahaha
[19:49] <apullz> okay
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> apullz  in what way is that ubuntu related?
[19:49] <apullz> ?
[19:49] <Pici> too many helpers...
[19:49] <apullz> because i need to fix linux
[19:49] <apullz> in order to install windows
[19:49] <airtonix> oh ok
[19:49] <apullz> ignore that im installing windows
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> apullz  no, first install windows, then linux, as windows would ruin the grub
[19:50] <apullz> lmao
[19:50] <apullz> no
[19:50] <apullz> thats not what i want
[19:50] <hkan> URGENT! I ran "sudo apt-get remove gdm*" and it removed ALMOST EVERY package installed on the system. I can still use firefox and spotify because I opened them before the removing and nothing else is working. I'm afraid to restart system, please help me!
[19:51] <joossee> apullz, let me be clear because the expeinced users in here are too nice: YOU NEED TO REPARTITION YOUR DRIVES. THERE IS A MILLION WAYS TO DO THIS.
[19:51] <reisio> hkan: should be a log in /var/log/apt
[19:51] <airtonix> joossee: i understood you up till those funny large letters
[19:51] <jmgk> joossee:  stop yelling
[19:51] <reisio> hkan: just reinstall it all
[19:51] <apullz> Basically I'm extracting an ISO but when I do so,  ubuntu decides that every ISO I download is empty
[19:51] <joossee> ^^ too nice! lol
[19:51] <apullz> and joossee, i know how to repartitioni
[19:52] <reisio> apullz: what makes you think they aren't empty
[19:52] <apullz> but i need a liveusb first
[19:52] <joossee> apullz, so you want #ubuntu to tell you to pirate windows?? seriously dawg?
[19:52] <hkan> reisio: will try that right now, thanks a lot
[19:52] <airtonix> apullz: and you didn't try using unetbootin?
[19:52] <apullz> it's not pirateing, i have a key
[19:52] <apullz> i've tried unetbootin
[19:52] <pinPoint> is anyone here using apache 2.4.x from a manual install or ppa that is not part of the official repos?
[19:52] <apullz> it just puts little text files onto the usb
[19:52] <reisio> pinPoint: probably someone is
[19:52]  * joossee still needs help with the GNOME crashing issue
[19:53] <reisio> apullz: oh you're trying to put windows on a usb stick?
[19:53] <apullz> Yeah, I know how to do it
[19:53] <airtonix> joossee: did you try install ubuntu-desktop ? (i'd look this up first)
[19:53] <OerHeks> apullz, so your download is corrupted, what do you want us to do ?
[19:53] <reisio> apullz: so what don't you know how to do
[19:53] <apullz> but the ISO's are "empty"
[19:53] <joossee> airtonix, yep its installed
[19:53] <reisio> apullz: doesn't sound like you know how to do it, then
[19:53] <reisio> apullz: try http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-167060
 back, I still had the same problem there
[19:53] <airtonix> joossee: re install it? sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall ?
[19:53] <apullz> reisio, done that already
[19:53] <joossee> airtonix, kk
[19:54] <apullz> reisio, i have lurked my problem for days
[19:54] <reisio> apullz: well you must be doing something wrong :) try #windows
[19:54] <apullz> reisio, you suggest i go to windows with a linux problem. that is not helping
[19:54] <airtonix> joossee: or you could try installing gdm again?
[19:55] <reisio> apullz: imaging windows onto a usb stick is not a linux problem
[19:55] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: so how do i uninstall that kernel?
[19:55] <joossee> airtonix, I was under the impression that GDM does not exist anymore? replaced with light-DM?
[19:55] <Aliekezhi> hi, I have a strange problem : when I open an image, with any program, the session just close automatically as if I was logging out...Any idea where it can come from ? (or what logs to check ?)
[19:55] <apullz> reisio, it is if it's done on ubuntu
[19:55] <airtonix> joossee: depends if you're using gnome-shell. gdm is still very much alive.
[19:55] <pseudorandom> hi, anyone with an idea how to fix 'error: file not found' on grub rescue command line?
[19:55] <joossee> ok i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop ... logoff?
[19:55] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you pastebin: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-
[19:56] <reisio> apullz: everything you can do from Ubuntu is covered by the link I gave, the rest is some other domain
[19:56] <deper29> pseudorandom: is the file actually there?
[19:56] <hkan> reisio: is there something like a recovery mode from ubuntu dvd like windows has? there's a lot to reinstall
[19:56] <airtonix> joossee: oh are you trying out 3.10?
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> apullz, Do you want linux and windows, you will have to resize the linux with linux for a unallocated space, the usb load is easy.
[19:56] <pseudorandom> deper29: i dont know which file it is. perhaps it is, but which?
[19:56] <joossee> airtonix, no 12.04 server 64
[19:56] <deper29> pseudorandom: what exactly are you trying to do?
[19:56] <joossee> airtonix, Unity is too crappy for my purposes
[19:56] <airtonix> joossee: 12.04 server with gnome classic or shell?
[19:56] <pinPoint> reisio: would it be a pain to maintain it?
[19:56] <reisio> hkan: you can do it from 'try'
[19:57] <airtonix> (sounds like shell)
[19:57] <reisio> hkan: or from the existing system without rebooting, probably
[19:57] <joossee> airtonix, whichever gnome i pick it seems to do the same one
[19:57] <pinPoint> vs doing apt-get update style?
[19:57] <joossee> load the same one
[19:57] <deper29> pseudorandom: are you trying to do a regular boot and it won't let you?
[19:57] <reisio> pinPoint: yes of course
[19:57] <pseudorandom> deper29: boot my computer. "error: file not found" is what i see immediately after powering up laptop
[19:57] <apullz> The usb load is easy, I agree. I have done it before. It's just that my Ubuntu is so buggy atm it says all my ISOs are empty when I know they're not.
[19:57] <pseudorandom> deper29: yes, a regular boot
[19:57] <deper29> pseudorandom: did you delete your kernel?
[19:57] <deper29> that's what it sounds like you may have done. Or moved your kernel
[19:57] <pseudorandom> deper29: no i didn't. i did upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 though
[19:58] <airtonix> joossee: do you want gnome-shell or gnome-classic?
[19:58] <joossee> airtonix, either or i dont care, i just want it to run without crashing
[19:58] <deper29> pseudorandom: do you have a livecd to boot from?
[19:58] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407085/
[19:58] <hkan> reisio: I can reinstall them, it's not the problem. What I'm asking is if Ubuntu can reinstall its required packages automatically?
[19:58] <pseudorandom> deper29: I have gparted livecd only
[19:58] <erictr1ck> i have a very strange issue on an ubuntu 12.04 machine where i cannot make any requests from that machine back to itsself (curl, wget, etc..) though the external domain or ip address. I have seemingly opened up the firewall completely to allow all incoming traffic,  but am still unable to make a connection. Any ideas what could be going on here?
[19:58] <rogan_> hi all, i need help on vlc
[19:58] <reisio> hkan: 'ubuntu-desktop' will require a whole lot of them, yes
[19:58] <Aliekezhi> hi, I have a strange problem : when I open an image, with any program, the session just close automatically as if I was logging out...Any idea where it can come from ? (or what logs to check ?)
[19:59] <gvo> erictr1ck: Normal
[19:59] <airtonix> joossee: well if you want gnome-shell, i'd start with 13.04 desktop then install gnome3 ppa
[19:59] <hkan> reisio: that should do the trick, thanks again :)
[19:59] <erictr1ck> gvo: it is?
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> airtonix, The shell is in the repos ppa's are not supported.
[19:59] <rogan_> i tryed vlc --sin --alsadev:hw:Intel without any succes
[19:59] <deper29> pseudorandom: if you have something you can boot from(like to try ubuntu or something) you can see if your kernel is there or what is up
[19:59] <gvo> erictr1ck: I noticed that a few versions back.
[19:59] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: what's your point?
[19:59] <joossee> airtonix, installing 13.04 is not an option
[20:00] <gvo> erictr1ck: I don't have a reason but just accept it.  I did.
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> airtonix, That is my point, why would they use a ppa?
[20:00]  * joossee will brb
[20:00] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: because it's more up to date? i thought that would be obvious
[20:00] <pseudorandom> deper29: where normally kernel resides?
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> danato: sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.12.0-031200 linux-headers-3.12.0-031200-generic linux-image-3.12.0-031200-generic
[20:00] <deper29> pseudorandom: /boot
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> airtonix, Also possibly problematic, and if so not supported here.
[20:01] <pseudorandom> deper29: oops there's no kernel there... wtf? o_O
[20:01] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: oh so i'm not allowed to help someone with it here then?
[20:01] <deper29> pseudorandom: lol
[20:01] <deper29> pseudorandom: okay, so we need to get you a new kernel then
[20:01] <pseudorandom> deper29: i have a symlink from /vmlinuz to there but there's no kernel....
[20:01] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: you might want to: sudo update-grub                after that to make sure it sets 3.11 as default again
[20:01] <pseudorandom> deper29: yeah, how could I do that?
[20:01] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: will you kick me from the channel if I do ?
[20:01] <Aliekezhi> does someone know how to fix this bug with unity ? the panel on the left appears on the start of session, but then dissapear and doesn't come back....
[20:01] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ok
[20:02] <wheatthin> airtonix, you can do so on your own terms, in a private chat, it just isn't supported via community help
[20:02] <deper29> pseudorandom: are you booted from an Ubuntu live disk?
[20:02] <pseudorandom> deper29: gparted livecd
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> airtonix, That is not the point help, but with informed information  is all.
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> brb
[20:02] <deper29> pseudorandom: I wonder if you could copy its kernel to your ubuntu drive?
[20:03]  * airtonix rols his eyes
[20:03] <wheatthin> otherwise they'll verbally flog you for doing so.
[20:03] <pseudorandom> deper29: i could try that, but would it work? let me try it
[20:03] <deper29> or there's a copy of the kernel online somewhere. let me look
[20:03] <joossee> no change. Gnome still crashes immediately upon trying to add anything to a panel. restarts fine and runs fine until the next time i try to edit deaktop
[20:03] <Aliekezhi> does someone know how to fix this bug with unity ? the panel on the left appears on the start of session, but then dissapear and doesn't come back....
[20:03] <deper29> pseudorandom: no, it wouldn't "just work" to do that
[20:03] <deper29> it's a bit more involved than that :P
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> airtonix, I can't nor would I kick you anyway, and having a attitude is part of using your own subjective opinon on this help, questionable at best.
[20:03] <erictr1ck> gvo: I found the issue because I have a website that is running wordpress and and 'plugin' called RAMP. RAMP is a 'plugin' that pushes content from a staging build to a production build though xmlrpc. however, both builds cannot communicate. this is when i realized that the server cannot do external calls to itsself and am assuming this is the issue. :(
[20:03] <apullz> I have a problem, I'm trying to extract an ISO's files onto a USB. When I mount these ISO's nautilus shows that they are empty, or just a little text file with nothing in it. I have tried to do it through UNETBOOTIN but the result is the same, the only files on the USB after are the text files, or not in some cases. My Ubuntu is very glitchy at the
[20:03] <apullz>  moment.  Any ideas?
[20:04] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: done, thanks
[20:04] <polaco_> como se abre dos sesiones de x en una maquina con diferentes usuarios
[20:04] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: i'm not really sure what you're trying to achieve?
[20:04] <pseudorandom> deper29: i have found something
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> airtonix, An informed user and help.
[20:04] <UUser> hi there
[20:04] <pseudorandom> deper29: i can see that actually these files exist but for some reason gparted livecd command line didn't show them up. perhaps i mounted the file system in a wrong way...
[20:05] <gvo> erictr1ck: Yes, I put an entry in my hosts file pointing my external fqdn to a 192.168.2.xx address to get around that kind of problem.
[20:05] <deper29> pseudorandom: http://goo.gl/GjDFCX
[20:05] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: so according to informed people, what is the supported version number of gnome-shell that is acceptable in this channel
[20:05] <odalmir> olá amigos!
[20:05] <ol-folks> ok guys, while trying to compile xcompmgr-dana i followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1412644 so i could get all the dependency packages and its still saying something about a environment variable?
[20:05] <polaco_> hola odalmir
[20:05] <deper29> pseudorandom: there are a couple of solutions on there. Ignore all of them except the one that involves mounting your drive and apt-get the kernel
[20:06] <deper29> the other solutions are dumb
[20:06] <odalmir> preciso de uma ajuda
[20:06] <polaco_> dime odalmir
[20:06] <odalmir> polaco entende portugues -brasil
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> airtonix, This channel is support for what's in the repos unless there is no other choice, it has always been this way. Your ego is keeping you from some basic cognitive reasoning.
[20:06] <odalmir> ? rs...
[20:06] <abradley> does this error mean that I must install a jre first or that I've done something wrong with the installer? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407106/
[20:06] <Pici> !br | odalmir
[20:06] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: my ego? oh ok.
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> yeah your ego it's obvious
[20:07] <phunyguy> well that escalated quickly.
[20:07] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: you still didn't answer my question/
[20:07] <pseudorandom> deper29: ok i have some kernels
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> GROW UP
[20:07] <odalmir> ok!  vou tentar! gracias!
[20:07] <Pici> wilee-nilee, airtonix: can we drop it please?
[20:07] <zykotick9> !info gnome-shell | airtonix
[20:07] <ol-folks> i notice that i did not get the dependency erorrs the other guy got but i still have that last part he had heres mine http://paste.debian.net/65497/
[20:07] <deper29> pseudorandom: did you chroot your system like that step says?
[20:07] <pseudorandom> deper29: but all are generic, is that ok?
[20:07] <deper29> mounting things and all
[20:07] <pseudorandom> deper29: nope, it turns out i was checking wrong folder, /boot of livecd instead of mounted device
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> Pici, no problem, however is my point on offering a ppa to a user with informing them valid?
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> without*
[20:08] <deper29> pseudorandom: follow that guide up to the chroot
[20:08] <deper29> well, do the chroot as well :P
[20:08] <apullz> I have a problem, I'm trying to extract an ISO's files onto a USB. When I mount these ISO's nautilus shows that they are empty, or just a little text file with nothing in it. I have tried to do it through UNETBOOTIN but the result is the same, the only files on the USB after are the text files, or not in some cases. My Ubuntu is very glitchy at the
[20:08] <apullz>  moment.  Any ideas?
[20:08] <airtonix> zykotick9: :) that's the kind of answer I'm looking for.
[20:09] <Pici> wilee-nilee: As long as you explain that PPAs are unsupported and that we can't really ensure that it won't break their system... yes.
[20:09] <OerHeks> apullz, again: so your download is corrupted, what do you want us to do ?
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> Pici, That was not done and was my point.
[20:09] <zerooneone> i'm looking for the numactl package which is supposed to be in 'main' but it doesn't show up in apt-cache search
[20:09] <apullz> Oerheks, I have been using these ISOs since before Ubuntu
[20:09] <deper29> apullz: are you mounting it properly?
[20:10] <zerooneone> i'm tracking precise
[20:10] <polaco_> i need 2 session xwindows witch 2 users
[20:10] <pseudorandom> deper29: i have kernel, do i still have to follow that guide?
[20:10] <apullz> deper29, I'm on ubuntu forums and i'm not sure now
[20:10] <Richhh> how can i check which graphics card is inside this old OSless PC?
[20:10] <phunyguy> !info numactl precise | zerooneone
[20:10] <apullz> deper29 how would i mount them properly?
[20:11] <deper29> pseudorandom: up until the chroot
[20:11] <phunyguy> zerooneone, is it one of those supported arch's?
[20:11] <apullz> deper29: i've just been using the archive mounter
[20:11] <OerHeks> apullz, you said you downloaded 3 different windows7 iso's and they turn up empty ..
[20:11] <deper29> apullz: I'm wondering what command you used to mount
[20:11] <erictr1ck> gvo: ok, thanks for the suggestion. so i put 184.xxx.xx.xxx  webserver.mydomain.com and restarted apache but still no luck. am i missing something here?
[20:12] <apullz> deper29: i right click and choose archive mounter
[20:12] <apullz> I'm reading about UDF isos now
[20:12] <pseudorandom> deper29: ok done
[20:12] <apullz> oerheks: i downloaded 2 of them a long time ago
[20:12] <deper29> apullz: 'mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt'
[20:12] <gvo> erictr1ck: That's pretty much what worked for me.  I don't run the same software as you however.
[20:12] <deper29> pseudorandom: okay, do 'update-grub'
[20:12] <zerooneone> ubottu: phunyguy yes i'm using amd64
[20:13] <pseudorandom> deper29: "error: failed to get canonical path of aufs"
[20:13] <phunyguy> zerooneone, do you have the universe repo ernabled?
[20:13] <phunyguy> enabled*
[20:13] <phunyguy> because it is not in main.  It is in universe/
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> apullz: deper29: windows iso are udf not iso9660. so: -t udf
[20:14] <irreverant> im getting an error udevd(91) /sbin/modprobe -bv pci:v00000........ 229 te3rminated by signal 9 killed
[20:14] <irreverant> and im at a initramfs prompt
[20:14] <irreverant> what is going on?
[20:14] <deper29> hitsujiTMO, apullz, I did not see it was windows iso, my bad :P
[20:15] <irreverant> so init 5 is gui right? im assumming this is init ram file system?
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, This at boot, a fresh install, a livevd/usb, a post kernel update?
[20:15] <apullz> deper29: hitsujiTMO: I have tried both of those commands, UDF and iso9660. Both of them say "mount: according to mtab /path/to/iso is already mounted on /mnt as loop
[20:15] <irreverant> at boot, after a fresh install from a live cd
[20:15] <zerooneone> ok thanks phunyguy i didn't have universe. coming from debian, i'm not sure what that means so i need to read up a bit
[20:16] <deper29> apullz: so, you've already mounted it
[20:16] <apullz> deper29: hitsujiTMO: I dont see them mounted anywhere
[20:16] <deper29> pseudorandom: hrrmmm
[20:16] <phunyguy> irreverant, did you check the md5 of the iso when you downloaded it?
[20:16] <irreverant> i just did a ls and i see dev root bin etc conf run .....
[20:16] <irreverant> its a good version
[20:16] <phunyguy> that wasn't what I askwed.
[20:16] <phunyguy> asked*
[20:16] <irreverant> used it to load this copy on this computer
[20:16] <irreverant> no i did not
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO> apullz: make sure you're mounting it correctly: if you've already mounted it then you need to unmount it first before trying it again:  sudo mount -t udf -o loop,ro,unhide,uid=$(id -u) /path/to/iso /mount/point
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, Use nicks, check the md5sum of the origonal iso is where I would start.
[20:17] <deper29> pseudorandom: you are chroot'd in?
[20:17] <irreverant> wilee what do you mean?
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> !tab | irreverant
[20:17] <pseudorandom> deper29: nope. actually i'm not sure what's chroot so i think not
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | irreverant
[20:17] <deper29> pseudorandom: did you do all of those mounts I mentioned?
[20:18] <LuNaTiC-7> whats the best programm to use ubuntu within windows installation ?
[20:18] <pseudorandom> deper29: yes
[20:18] <LuNaTiC-7> like vmware etc
[20:18] <phunyguy> irreverant, it just sounds like you had a failure during install, and maybe a bit got flipped.
[20:18] <pseudorandom> deper29: i just didn't do chroot /mnt
[20:18] <deper29> pseudorandom: so you mounted /sys, /proc and /dev accordingly?
[20:18] <phunyguy> it won't tell you it failed, but the file still isn't right.
[20:18] <gvo> erictr1ck: Wait.  Are you not natted?
[20:18] <deper29> do the 'chroot /mnt'
[20:18] <pseudorandom> deper29: like in the guide. ok i will do that too
[20:19] <deper29> then do 'update-grub'
[20:19] <apullz> deper29: hitsujiTMO: that worked thanks
[20:19] <pseudorandom> deper29: chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': exec format error
[20:19] <deper29> hitsujiTMO: you use quite a few options I never use :P
[20:19] <deper29> pseudorandom: wtf
[20:19] <deper29> fine
[20:20] <deper29> let me see
[20:20] <erictr1ck> gvo: im not sure... i only have access to this one server and am now realizing that it is also probably behind a load balancer, which probably opens it up for many other possible issues :(
[20:20] <BluesKaj> LuNaTiC-7:  virtual box works well for windows as a guest on ubuntu
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> deper29: thats just for udf to be absolutely sure for it to work, most of the options shouldn't actually be needed be needed
[20:20] <gvo> erictr1ck: From the command line, do an ifconfig
[20:20] <irreverant> id ont understand how a copy from ubuntu.com that installed this working copy can be bad or turn bad between installations
[20:21] <deper29> pseudorandom: 'chroot /mnt /bin/bash'
[20:21] <gvo> erictr1ck: that's the address you want to put in the hosts file.
[20:21] <erictr1ck> gvo: http://pastebin.com/yr5jEB7G
[20:22] <joossee> airtonix, ok so both fglrxinfo and "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p" return a "BadRequest" .. this means I'm running unity 2d right?
[20:22] <pseudorandom> deper29: just a sec... i'm on it. battery of laptop died i had to restart :/
[20:22] <MoleMan> Is it possible to add a static route for everything above/between 192.168.0.50 - 192.168.0.255 ? or is it not possible as it's not a proper subnet or whatever?
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, It may be a bad install, it can be a host of other possible varibles, we have to go through these to get to an answer, does that make sense to you?
[20:22] <airtonix> joossee: no idea, i don't use unity or ati cards.
[20:22] <gvo> erictr1ck: PUt 10.182.97.135 in the hosts file.
[20:23] <erictr1ck> gvo: AWESOME!!!!!
[20:24] <wolfy1339> how would i remove ubuntu (re-installing later) from a dual-boot with windows 8, i fi cannot boot from usb because of grub (i have uefi)
[20:24] <erictr1ck> gvo: thanks so much, probably just saved me hours upon hours
[20:24] <irreverant> yes
[20:24] <irreverant> wilee-nilee
[20:24] <irreverant> yes it does
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> wolfy1339, Can you boot windows as of now?
[20:24] <gvo> erictr1ck: That's what I'm here for.  ;)
[20:25] <wolfy1339> wilee-nilee, yes i'm in windows right now
[20:26] <pseudorandom> deper29:the same error: Exec format error. i think it might be a bitness issue. my pc is 64 bit (probably ubuntu too) and i am afraid gparted livecd is 32 bits... :/
[20:26] <juniour1> hi
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> wolfy1339, using grub or the windows boot to get there?
[20:26] <Uuser> Hello
[20:26] <deper29> pseudorandom: could be. Why not get a 64-bit livedisk?
[20:26] <wolfy1339> wilee-nilee, umm i don't know... i select the windows boot loader option from the grub boot menu
[20:26] <joossee> grrrr im so frustrated
[20:27] <joossee> and i dont mean sexually
[20:27] <pseudorandom> deper29: i don't have any blank dvds around me, also my computer does not boot from usb :/ i am stuck with that gparted thing
[20:27] <joossee> but.. also that
[20:27] <joossee> pseudorandom, unless you are on a sony or mac you should be able to boot usb...?
[20:28] <deper29> joossee: not true
[20:28] <pseudorandom> joossee: i am on dell inspiron 15r se. in bios i don't see usb as a boot option
[20:28] <Jordan_U> wolfy1339: Why can't you boot from USB? You should be able to remove Ubuntu's UEFI entry and make Windows' default, the just remove your Ubuntu partition.
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> wolfy1339, Ah so from grub to windows, If you can get it to boot windows without grub removing ubuntu can be done with any partitioner including the on board of windows. You might try the ##windows channel if you can't get that windows boot by windows set.
[20:28] <deper29> I have an old compaq that doesn't
[20:28] <deper29> pseudorandom: reboot into the usb
[20:28] <deper29> don't mount anything, I want to try something else
[20:29] <pseudorandom> deper29: i can't, how can i boot into usb? in bios i don't see such option
[20:29] <deper29> pseudorandom: my bad. I meant boot into your gparted disk :P
[20:29] <pseudorandom> deper29: im inside gparted, reboot?
[20:29] <wolfy1339> wilee-nilee, the only way i know of booting windows without grub, is to enable secure boot
[20:29] <deper29> pseudorandom: yeah
[20:30] <joossee> pseudorandom, what happens when you hit F12 during boot?
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> wolfy1339, You get my point though right, to remove ubuntu all you have to do is make sure windows can boot itself, then removal of ubuntu is no biggie.
[20:30] <pseudorandom> joossee: i see a list of devices to choose for booting
[20:30] <joossee> pseudorandom, in dell bios that should bring up your boot otpions.. the option to hit F12 may or may not appear
[20:30] <joossee> pseudorandom, and USB is not an option?
[20:31] <Jordan_U> wolfy1339: wilee-nilee: Secure boot has nothing to do with this as both Windows and Ubuntu support secure boot.
[20:31] <pseudorandom> joossee: no it's not
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, Your missing the point I make, they want to remove ubuntu, I am saying make sure windows boots itself then remove ubuntu.
[20:32] <joossee> pseudorandom, here we are: F12 > Change boot mode setting > Legacy Boot Mode, Secure Boot Off > Yes > F12
[20:32] <joossee> pseudorandom, http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19469063.aspx
[20:32] <UrielVigilant> I deleted a folder called GNUSTEP this will affect my system ?
[20:32] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: Which is exactly what I said earlier :)
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, I did not see that, hehe. ;)
[20:33] <UrielVigilant> GNUSTEP its part of ubuntu 13.10 ?
[20:33] <pseudorandom> joossee: ok i can try that, but give me a sec i'll try what deper29 has in his mind first :)
[20:33] <pseudorandom> deper29: booted into gparted. what now?
[20:33] <Jordan_U> wolfy1339: You can modify UEFI boot entries in GNU/Linux using the tool efibootmgr.
[20:34] <joossee> guys i need help figuring out some display driver stuff... basically I am running Unity in 2D all the time, no matter what I select. also, i have fglrx installed, and it seems to be using it, but fglrxinfo returns a badrequest. i cannot figure out what is going on... :(
[20:34] <wolfy1339> Jordan_U, yes, but what do i do? anyways i found a guide
[20:34] <deper29> pseudorandom: 'sudo mount /dev/sdX /mnt'
[20:34] <deper29> where X is your partition of course
[20:35] <pseudorandom> deper29: yeah
[20:35] <deper29> pseudorandom: 'sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdX
[20:35] <deper29> '
[20:35] <UrielVigilant> gnustep!
[20:35] <deper29> so if you have ubuntu installed on sda1, it would be 'sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda'
[20:35] <pseudorandom> deper29:oh, i tried that before there is an error. let me write it down
[20:36] <deper29> don't put the partition number in there
[20:36] <pseudorandom> hm
[20:36] <pseudorandom> ok
[20:36] <pseudorandom> without number one sec
[20:36] <deper29> just sda
[20:36] <pseudorandom> deper29: installation finished No error reported
[20:36] <pseudorandom> deper29: i will reboot now to see if that worked
[20:37] <deper29> pseudorandom: unmount first
[20:37] <deper29> 'sudo umount /mnt'
[20:37] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: What
[20:37] <deper29> actually, it should probably take care of that on reboot anyway
[20:37] <pseudorandom> deper29: oh, i didn't do that just rebooted. :/ i'll try again if that didnt work
[20:38] <deper29> but you were certain you had kernels in /mnt/boot, yes?
[20:38] <joossee> man where is adamk when you need him!
[20:38] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: Sorry, please pastebin the output of "efibootmgr".
[20:38] <pseudorandom> deper29: yes i was certain and now i just booted into my ubuntu :) thanks a lot!
[20:38] <deper29> pseudorandom: good to hear!
[20:38] <pseudorandom> deper29: or not
[20:38] <deper29> wait
[20:38] <deper29> :(
[20:38] <deper29> what?
[20:38] <joossee> pseudorandom, you might wanna unlock USB booting while its fresh in your mind...
[20:39] <pseudorandom> deper29: ok "the disk drive /tmp' was something but i didn't see the whole message
[20:39] <pseudorandom> it just started
[20:39] <pseudorandom> joossee: actually when usb is attached i see that option. apparently i need to attach usb drive to see it
[20:39] <deper29> pseudorandom: 'dmesg | less'
[20:39] <pseudorandom> deper29: just a sec
[20:39] <deper29> and you can go search for the message
[20:39] <deper29> :)
[20:40] <joossee> pseudorandom, !@#@#$@## of course you do!!
[20:40] <Jordan_U> wolfy1339: Please pastebin the output of "efibootmgr".
[20:40] <pseudorandom> deper29: i will switch to that computer and use paste.ubuntu.com it will be faster :)
[20:40] <wolfy1339> Jordan_U, from where
[20:40] <Jordan_U> wolfy1339: From Ubuntu.
[20:40] <wolfy1339> ok...
[20:40] <deper29> pseudorandom: in that case, 'dmesg | pastebinit' or whatever you use to pastebin stuff
[20:41] <deper29> I'm a wgetpaste kind of guy
[20:41] <Jordan_U> wolfy1339: In fact, since you should should have one on hand in case things go wrong, do it from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB.
[20:41] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407277/
[20:42] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: i searched tmp string there but i couldn't find it
[20:42] <wolfy1339> Jordan_U, ok, i have live-usb
[20:42] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: You're not allowed to help people whose nicks start with the same letter as yours when I've just woken up. It confuses me ;)
[20:43] <joossee> can anyone help me make the "dash home" menu open in under 5 seconds? plz plz plz
[20:43] <deper29> pseudorandom_del: I don't see anythnig bad in this dmesg
[20:43] <deper29> looks good
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, Hehe, I understand. ;)
[20:43] <pseudorandom_del> deper: there was some /tmp partition message. perhaps i should restart the computer to see if that appears again
[20:43] <deper29> pseudorandom_del: do you have /tmp as a separate partition?
[20:44] <geirha> joossee: Get a lightning fast harddrive
[20:44] <joossee> geirha, uhm... RADI 5 over here... and now it open great using the vesa driver...
[20:44] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: well i don't think so. i have such a folder though
[20:44] <geirha> joossee: Ah, a trick question, I see
[20:45] <joossee> geirha, ya BUT vesa no support dual screen so...
[20:45] <joossee> geirha, its a catch 22
[20:45] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407312/ here none of them is /tmp
[20:46] <geirha> joossee: Yeah, the neverending problem with AMD and Nvidia not bothering to support their hardware on linux
[20:46] <joossee> geirha, it gets better: no other DM works properly.. not xfce and not gnome :( :(
[20:46] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: 1st is some boot partition, 2nd actually i don't know what exactly it is perhaps page file equivalent, 3rd my boot partition and 4th windows
[20:46] <joossee> geirha, screw them im not playing vids.. is there a good video card maker for linux??
[20:46] <ovrflw0x> what's name for these dependencies in ubuntu? http://code.google.com/p/trizen/#Dependencies
[20:47] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: i mean probably it is swap partition, without it it wouldn't work, right?
[20:47] <deper29> pseudorandom_del: I didn't have a swap partition on one of my machines and it worked fine. You have 2 boot partitions?
[20:48] <deper29> I did'nt know you had separate partitions. We should have installed grub to the proper partition. Might explain why you had boot issues. fstab might not have been right
[20:48] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: no i don't, why would I have ? if you mean Boot (*) on the last like, i don't know why
[20:49] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: so last one is windows and 3rd one is ubuntu. 1st one is dell recovery and 2nd i have no idea what
[20:49] <deper29> geirha: didn't nvidia just release some new drivers the other day for Linux? 331 I think
[20:49] <geirha> joossee: Haven't paid attention to graphics hardware in years; I just make sure to google the linux support of the graphics hardware before I buy
[20:49] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: you think all is ok now, or there's still some problem? i can run boot info script to show you
[20:49] <Aliekezhi> anyone had problem with unity pannel ?
[20:50] <deper29> pseudorandom_del: sounds like all is okay
[20:50] <deper29> You're booted and not having issues anyway :P
[20:50] <gordonjcp> !details | Aliekezhi
[20:50] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: thanks a lot for helping :)
[20:50] <pseudorandom_del> joossee: and thans for the link, i didn't know i have to attach the usb drive :P (seriously)
[20:50] <joossee> geirha, you know, i thought I'd done that.. :) This FireMV 2250 works well enuff.. just that one bug making me mental.
[20:51] <geirha> deper29: Don't know. Probably for outdated cards
[20:51] <joossee> pseudorandom, np
[20:51] <Aliekezhi> with unity and lastest ubuntu LTS, I have this problem : on start of session I can see a pannel to the left but then it dissapear....
[20:51] <Aliekezhi> gordonjcp,
[20:51] <deper29> pseudorandom_del: no worries
[20:52] <Aliekezhi> ubottu, any idea ?
[20:52] <Aliekezhi> XD
[20:52] <geirha> joossee: Have you found anything on your current issue on google? regarding that specific hardware
[20:53] <Amtrask> Hello all. I am about to set up a media server at my home using some variant of Ubuntu... i'm wondering if there's any reason to pick Ubuntu server over Xubuntu [my preferred desktop distro]? What are the significant differences under the window manager?
[20:53] <rek> hi.... guess what Os i'm running
[20:53] <deper29> Amtrask: if you're making a server, why do you need a window manager?
[20:53] <Amtrask> PS/2?
[20:53] <rek> Dos 6.22 lol
[20:53] <Amtrask> deper29: it's also run videos on it
[20:54] <saliak> I've setup a vpn with pptpd and am able to connect to it with my iPhone.  Once i connect, I can ping my phone's ip address with a computer on my network.  The phone, however, doesn't see my iTunes shares, probably because multicast isn't forwarded from my local network to the vpn segment.  How does one accomplish this on a linux server?
[20:54] <deper29> Amtrask: no, I know, that's what a media server does. But why do you need a window manager?
[20:54] <rek> the thing is...it's not multitasking at all psdppdppsds
[20:54] <deper29> are you using it as a server to store things on?
[20:55] <joossee> geirha, the stuff i found was jighly conflicting? my first problem was just getting flgrx installed properly, and #ubuntu helped me with that...
[20:55] <deper29> or are you making htpc?
[20:55] <joossee> geirha, then i had to sort the virtual desktop size from stuff related to the quad head version of this, the 2400
[20:55] <Amtrask> deper29 it'll just be network storage, essentially. But I do prefer using GUI where possible...
[20:55] <Aliekezhi> any idea how to fix the bug with unity's pannel (usually displayed on the left)
[20:55] <joossee> .. and #ubuntu had to help me get the symntax right :)
[20:55] <hilarie> Hello! I can't open any internet browser at the moment, when I open firefox, I get the error ** (firefox:2695): ERROR **: Cannot find a safe socket path in '/tmp' among other things, I'd pastebin the whole thing but... I don't have a browser
[20:56] <joossee> so now it mostly works... 2 21' monitors running on DVI from an ancient video card i had to physically bend to fit into the PCIe slot... in a server .. but.. I DID IT MY WAAAAY lol
[20:56] <Jordan_U> wolfy1339: Are you having trouble booting from the LiveUSB and running "efibootmgr"?
[20:57] <Aliekezhi> when I open an image with any program, with any DE (openbox, unity, gnome...), I always get the same bug : the session close....as If I did "logout"...Any idea ?
[20:57] <geirha> joossee: So it could just be the resulting resolution is just too big for it?
[20:57] <Aliekezhi> currently using lastest LTS
[20:57] <joossee> geirha, 3200 x 1200?
[20:57] <deper29> Amtrask: ubuntu server doesnt' have a window manager I don't think
[20:57] <joossee> deper29, i installed ubntu desktop
[20:57] <joossee> pacakage
[20:58] <deper29> if you are just using it for storage, you don't require a window manager. Just mount it on whatever will be using it
[20:58] <joossee> unity is actuall pretty sweet on two monitors
[20:58] <joossee> deper29, vm's
[20:58] <deper29> then use the window manager of whatever you'll be mounting on
[20:58] <Aliekezhi> deper29, when I open an image with any program, with any DE (openbox, unity, gnome...), I always get the same bug : the session close....as If I did "logout"...Any idea ?
[20:59] <joossee> i have 28gb of ram.. not really an issue?
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, You have any ppa's loaded?
[20:59] <deper29> joossee: I was referring to Amtrask :P
[20:59] <geirha> joossee: the graphics cards won't have access to that ram
[20:59] <Amtrask> deper29 I get that... I guess what i'm really asking is "Is there a problem with configuring Xubuntu as a server?" is there some inherent insecurity? The machine will be physically located next to my TV anyway so there's no reason NOT to plug in the HDMI port... so long as I setup the firewall and lock down the server's exposure to the network
[21:00] <joossee> can I bridge three wifi connections to the same netowkr into one superfast one?
[21:00] <deper29> Amtrask: no, should be fine
[21:00] <joossee> geirha, tragically no... i might pickup a better card if I can find the riser.. pciex16 to x8
[21:00] <Amtrask> deper29 thanks!
[21:01] <wolfy1339> ok, ubuntu is gone but grub is still there
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, I ask about ppa's really intrying to get the background leading to this problem, it seems not to have been from the install am I right?
[21:02] <tim-ct> hi all... anyone having hassles wit arcobat and teamviewer  on 13.10
[21:04] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, you mean other repositories than main one ?
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Yes, and any background leading to this problem.
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Any other than ubuntu repos.
[21:05] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, well there is only the main repo enabled
[21:05] <Aliekezhi> I mean the official
[21:05] <Aliekezhi> canonical
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, You have other ubuntu repos in the sources.list you have them off?
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, I see you are on the main server is that what you mean?
[21:07] <ledtc> hello, i cant get my routing sorted out. Ubuntu server behind two routers, and ive set the default gateway to 192.168.5.1 but still no internet, the second router has internet cuz it can check for updates. And the ubuntu server can resolve name into ip
[21:07] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ only
[21:07] <AlexPortable> Hi
[21:07] <AlexPortable> How to repair grub?
[21:07] <AlexPortable> I get out of disk error
[21:07] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, with precise and precise-update
[21:07] <AlexPortable> grub> 000000
[21:08] <joossee> ledtc, what port?
[21:08] <wolfy1339> how do i remove grub? i have removed all ubuntu partitions
[21:08] <ledtc> joossee port ? those port should be opend right ?
[21:09] <joossee> ledah, sorry you are trying to connect to the ubuntu server thru the internet and it no workie?
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, run this command and pastebin all the info  grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[21:09] <ledtc> nah im trying to ping google.se from my ubuntu server behind 2 routers, its just wont budge
[21:10] <hydruid> ledtc: can you ping both routers you are behind?
[21:10] <joossee> ledtc, ok this isnt really a #ubuntu problem but i can try to help u
[21:10] <joossee> ^^ hydruid
[21:10] <noize__> Hello, I'm attempting to remove the grid from the login screen and after creating lightdm user, and running the cmd 'gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter draw-grid false' I get this error 'dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create directory '/run/user/1000/dconf': Permission denied.  dconf will not work properly.'
[21:10] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407427/
[21:10] <hydruid> ledtc: assuming that the 1st router is your default gateway, does the far 2nd router have mgnt access so that you can ping to confirm your traffic is being routed to it?
[21:10] <ledtc> cant ping second router
[21:11] <hydruid> ledtc: what kind of network is setup between router A -> B, is it a /30?
[21:11]  * airtonix would really love to have avahi on android
[21:11] <zteam> Hi all!
[21:11] <ledtc> Internet -> Router ->   (Breake Point)   VM(router) -> VM(server)
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Can you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin all of that.
[21:12] <hydruid> ledtc: i bet if you run a traceroute you'll see the traffic die after it hits the router that is your gateway.....sounds more like you have issues between routers not ubuntu
[21:12] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, very strange, in sources.list there are only 3 lines uncommented but the result of your command shows different things
[21:12] <Ari-Yang> can 12.04 packages be installed on 12.10?
[21:12] <hydruid> Ari-Yang: sure
[21:12] <Calinou> they can, but it may sometimes not work
[21:12] <Ari-Yang> hydruid: there won't be any errors or anything?
[21:13] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, if I dist upgrade, I will stop being in LTS, right ?
[21:13] <HaltingState> where is the development channel and security/kernel team channel?
[21:13] <zteam> Sometimes then I boot Ubuntu 13.10 I just get a black screen (no login window) and I have to go to ta TTY and reboot my computer, Xorg doesn't seem to be running either
[21:13] <Ari-Yang> what about 13.04 packages on 12.10?
[21:13] <w0otness> looks like i have the same problem being discussed, Hash Sum Mismatch. Tried what most of google has found.
[21:13] <hydruid> Ari-Yang: every package is different but the basic ones sure no problem......if you start talking about specific system libraries things can go bad
[21:13] <Calinou> dist-upgrade is not version upgrading, don't mix it
[21:13] <bluetazmanian> has anyone had any issue with the graphic card after upgrade to 13.10?
[21:13] <Ari-Yang> hydruid: specifically packages that deal with mesa
[21:13] <Calinou> not here, bluetazmanian
[21:13] <Calinou> ask your question directly! don't do polls
[21:13] <zteam> I'm using the Nvidida driver on a Geforece 8800 G
[21:13] <PDilyard> is there a way i can copy all the packages and settings from one ubuntu install to another?
[21:14] <hydruid> Ari-Yang: will probably be fine but it's always good to do a system image / backup just to make sure :P
[21:14] <bluetazmanian> ok, thanks
[21:14] <hydruid> PDilyard: are the machines the same model?
[21:14] <Ari-Yang> hydruid: kk, thanks... do you know if it's possible to add a 12.04 ppa to 12.10?
[21:15] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407452/
[21:15] <zteam> PDilyard, you can clone the entire / partition if you want to
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, No that command is within the release.
[21:15] <hydruid> Ari-Yang: that is a whole other situation, usually those are version specific
[21:15] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, nothing to update/upgrade
[21:15] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407452/
[21:15] <hydruid> Ari-Yang: but it boils down to that every package is different
[21:15] <zteam> anybody has any clues, for my black-screen issues?
[21:15] <Ari-Yang> hydruid: right, so then I'll just d/l the .deb package contents
[21:16] <hydruid> Ari-Yang: but usually if it's going to bork your system it will give you an error first
[21:16] <PDilyard> hydruid. zteam: they are not the same model...but all i want is basically an automatically compiled list of apt-get commands to run to install all the same packages
[21:17] <hydruid> PDilyard: could do a dpkg --list > packages on both machines and then diff the differences......
[21:17] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, should I post something to ubuntu bugzilla ? any idea what log I could check to see where this comes from ? could be linked with graphic drivers ?
[21:17] <w0otness> apt-get update gives this: W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/au.archive.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[21:17] <yeats> w0otness: try a different mirror?
[21:17] <brontosaurusrex> PDilyard, google for "dpkg --get-selections"
[21:17] <PDilyard> ok
[21:18] <zteam> PDilyard, okey there is a tool called apt-clone avaiable in the repository, try that :-)
[21:18] <PDilyard> zteam: sweet
[21:18] <ledtc> hydruid, that would be impossible as traceroute is a download package
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, I was just making sure you have all the repos you should have and that they are open, it was hard to tell from your responses, you do have an extra the google one, however it should not be attached to this crashing. Can you give any background that leads to this crashing of all these desktops, it seems it was working at one time, am I right here?
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Graphic driver is a question for sure.
[21:19] <hydruid> ledtc: lol good point.....well it all depends on your situation. if the ubuntu box is the only one that not working it might be an ubuntu issue, but it sounds like it's a router issue
[21:19] <Grimm_> hey , quick question about the installation of linux on my wife's pc. She has a asus EEE pc 1000 with 2gig of DDR2 ram , how much SWAP should i give it ?
[21:19] <zteam> PDilyard, :-)
[21:20] <hydruid> Grimm_: how big is the drive?
[21:20] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, well, I can't actually tell you since when this bug started.The bug can be reproduced by launching an image with any program (eye of gnome, gthumb...) with any DE (gnome, openbox or unity)
[21:20] <Grimm_> the hard drive is about 160gig , and 50 of that has a windows xp installed
[21:20] <brontosaurusrex> Grimm_, twice the ram is usual recommendation irc
[21:20] <hydruid> Grimm_: give it 2-4GB.....
[21:21] <Grimm_> alright great :) I was thinking for a moment 8 gig 'to play safe' , but that seemed like such a n00b move that i tought to come and ask :D
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Image being a jpg..etc?
[21:21] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, yes JPG
[21:22] <Grimm_> and mount point for linux should be ok on just ' / ' ?
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, what about with the stock image viewer?
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> opr shotwell
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> or*
[21:23] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, is there a syntax to save the logs with an imagedisplayer ? like "eog blabla.jpg >> blabla.txt" or something like this ?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, what about with the stock image viewer or shotwell?
[21:23] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, hum, what is this ?
[21:23] <AlexPortable> hi ?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Thaose are installed image viewers
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, right click any image and choose those.
[21:24] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, shotwell create same issue
[21:25] <Grimm_> is it ok if the swap partition is Logical ?
[21:25] <Jordan_U> Grimm_: Yes.
[21:25] <Grimm_> the linux partition , i toke primary , ext4 , mount point /
[21:26] <Jordan_U> Grimm_: Any of your linux partitons can be logical.
[21:26] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, "[  4966.025] [mi] EQ overflow continuing.  100 events have been dropped." in my xorg.0.log Do you think it's linked ?
[21:26] <Grimm_> allright , i should actually just look up what it means ...
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, I have to wonder if you have just installed some apps that are causing this conflict, just a guess though. I have the feeling you are a new user from your responses, and may have just borked the setup, rather then there being any actual bugs, or there is a graphic driver problem, kinda a issue of many possible varibles.
[21:26] <Grimm_> but so much to do and just 24 hours for the only version of me to do everything  :(
[21:26] <Grimm_> a day that is , luckely
[21:27] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, actually I'm a gentoo user, and this is not my computer.
[21:27] <deper29> Aliekezhi: +1 for Gentoo :D
[21:27] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, but I see a lot of different bugs there which is seem to appear since last update
[21:28] <Aliekezhi> as every time I use an ubuntu....
[21:28] <Aliekezhi> but anyway it's not my computer and I must fix this
[21:28] <deper29> Aliekezhi: what is your issue?
[21:28] <Aliekezhi> I'd like to have an idea of what log or what to check
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Ah, Ubuntu is different than gentoo as far as building the OS, could this have been a gentoo approach to ubuntu possibly?
[21:28] <Grimm_> hey guys , thanks again !
[21:29] <Aliekezhi> deper29, session logout everytime I open an image with any program (tried with 3 of them) and any DE (tried also 3 of them)
[21:29] <deper29> Aliekezhi: you could try asking in #gentoo
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Anyway this is beyond my ability to really help you fix.
[21:30] <deper29> that seems strange :S
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> deper29, This is a ubuntu install.
[21:30] <Aliekezhi> deper29, tried with eye of gnome, gthumb and shotwell, and gnome3, unity and openbox => always the same bug
[21:30] <deper29> wilee-nilee: ahh, I see
[21:30] <Aliekezhi> deper29, well it seems it's more an ubuntu related problem....
[21:30] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, ok thx.I'll try to post details on ubuntu bugzilla
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Probably the best option, best of luck on this. ;)
[21:31] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, thx :)
[21:40] <zteam> Is there any ppa avaiable which updates the Nvidia-driver?
[21:41] <zteam> for Ubuntu 13.10?
[21:44] <Ari-Yang> !ppa nvidia
[21:44] <Ari-Yang> !package nvidia
[21:44] <Ari-Yang> !repository
[21:44] <yeats> zteam: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+packages might be what you're after
[21:44] <yeats> !ppa | zteam
[21:45] <zteam> yeats, thanks
[21:46] <zteam> I having issues with black-screen in Ubuntu 13.10, and I assume it to be related to the nvidia.driver
[21:46] <Ari-Yang> zteam: might be.... or 13.10 is just buggy
[21:46] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i need some help so i have been having trouble with a new kernel i got via dist-upgrade and i posted the bug to launchpad.net and i gota response that said to try the mainline kernel build (as it states https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250298)
[21:46] <Psil0Cybin> which version would i need to download or is the person refering too
[21:47] <Psil0Cybin> my launchpad post was the following : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250298
[21:47] <zteam> Ari-Yang, works pretty good for me except for this stupid bug, but this bug was present in Ubuntu 13.04 as well
[21:47] <Ari-Yang> !nomodset | Psil0Cybin
[21:47] <Psil0Cybin> someone suggest for me to " Please test the latest v3.12 kernel[0]"
[21:47] <Psil0Cybin> I used nomodset it dod not work
[21:48] <Psil0Cybin> and isnt it nomodeset
[21:48] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[21:49] <auronandace> !mainline | Psil0Cybin
[21:49] <duxb> Anybody use phpmyadmin under 13.10?
[21:49] <Psil0Cybin> oh so all a mainline build would tell me is what is causing the problem? It woudl not be a more up to date fixed kernel?
[21:51] <GameCodeTrainer> [16:48:21] <Ari-Yang> zteam: are you using open source or proprietary?
[21:51] <GameCodeTrainer> [16:48:37] <Ari-Yang> go to software sources and go to the 'additional drivers' tab
[21:51] <duxb> In phpmyadmin under 13.10, is it normal to now have little '!'s in little red circles next to all your database names on the left hand side?
[21:53] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys is this the most up to date kernel
[21:53] <Psil0Cybin> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/current/
[21:53] <Psil0Cybin> ? i am confused at what mainline kernel i am supposed to test
[21:53] <duxb> also, it says that mcrypt extension is missing, but I checked, and it's installed
[21:54] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: doesn't really matter, does it? The point is to test kernels other than what you've got that presumably doesn't work
[21:55] <Psil0Cybin> reisio: well i have a bunch of kernels that work for me that are out of date what i am trying to do is have up to date kernel or have the most recent one i can have
[21:55] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[21:55] <yeats> !mainline
[21:55] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: with that ppa, you can download and install kernels
[21:55] <Psil0Cybin> so i am just confused about version numbers because it says i have kernel 3.2.0.55 but im supposed to try out 3.12?
[21:55] <yeats> ah, I see auronandace already shared that ;-)
[21:56] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-trusty/
[21:56] <Psil0Cybin> yea thats the one he linked me to try out
[21:56] <Psil0Cybin> is that a recent one? why would the version number be lower then the one i have now
[21:56] <yeats> Psil0Cybin: 3.12 > 3.2
[21:56] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: click the dang link I just linked you
[21:56] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: I knows
[21:56] <Ari-Yang> if you're on a 64bit download the headers amd64, the headers all, and the image amd64
[21:57] <Ari-Yang> ^ Psil0Cybin
[21:57] <Ari-Yang> then put it all into a folder, open terminal, cd into the folder and run sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[21:57] <Psil0Cybin> kk im on 32bit so i will get the 32bit one for intel
[21:57] <Psil0Cybin> thank you Ari-Yang.
[21:57] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: yes, get the headers i386, the headers all, and the image i386
[21:57] <Psil0Cybin> I was just confused because the version number was 3.12 and i had 3.2
[21:57] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[21:57] <Psil0Cybin> thank you and im guessing if all else fails i can always fall back to my current working kernel?
[21:57] <Psil0Cybin> correct?
[21:58] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: yes, just boot into it using GRUB
[21:58] <Ari-Yang> (hold shift key on boot)
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> perfect. thank you Ari-Yang sorry for being so slow at learning!
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> it was just the version numbers that threw me off
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> i thought i was going back in time!
[21:58] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: no worries, good luck
[22:00] <fobo> hello i got a problem ... i deaktived networkmanager and do a reboot but if i type in terminal sudo modprobe -r rt2x00sta is the module in use??? anybody can help?
[22:02] <mmhun> does anyone have any suggestions about what ftp server to run?
[22:07] <reisio> mmhun: sshd
[22:07] <mmhun> reisio: not if I actually want to host files...
[22:08] <reisio> mmhun: you don't care about transfer security?
[22:08] <mmhun> sftp
[22:09]  * Ritchie__ ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.9.6 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz (3.00 GHz) ** RAM: 8160 MB Total (3995 MB Free) ** VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 ** Uptime: 27.83 Hours **
[22:10] <Harmageddon> Hi! I was here a few days ago to solve a graphics error during ubuntu installation (worked with the "nomodeset" option). This worked fine for the installation and first start, but now, when I start Ubuntu, a window shows during boot, saying "The system is running in low-graphics mode."
[22:11] <Harmageddon> "Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself"
[22:11] <rndm> is there a concise guide to removing the myriad of ads in unity
[22:11] <rndm> 13.10
[22:11] <aarobc_wrk> Hi guys. So I actually really like unity and I want to keep using it. I've heard there are these window managers called tiling window managers that make it so working with a lot of windows on a screen is much more streamlined. Is there some way to get something like that to play nice with ubuntu?
[22:12] <shrimpy> Hi aarobc_wrk, yes there is, but it's not very easy
[22:12] <shrimpy> Sounds like you want to keep using Unity but have it use a tiling WM?
[22:12] <aarobc_wrk> I started writing something that would do that using wmctrl, but I'm realizing it's a lot bigger undertaking so I was curious if there was something already written
[22:13] <Harmageddon> when I select "run in low-graphics mode for just one session", there's a new window telling me to wait one minute while the screen restarts. When I press ok in this window, I'm back to the ubuntu boot screen, the red dots are going on and on, but I'm not getting any further.
[22:13] <Ari-Yang> aarobc_wrk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager#List_of_tiling_window_managers_for_X
[22:13] <aarobc_wrk> Ari-Yang: thanks, will check it out
[22:15] <seisku> ey
[22:15] <shrimpy> aarobc_wrk, if you are using 12.04, you can use the Unity panel with the WM of your choice.
[22:15] <Psil0Cybin> Air-Yang:
[22:15] <Psil0Cybin> i have a problem
[22:16] <shrimpy> (Unity2d panel, I should say)
[22:16] <seisku> oh no
[22:16] <aarobc_wrk> shrimpy: using 13.10 because I like the better multi-monitor support
[22:16] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/nE5xGHee
[22:17] <shrimpy> aarobc_wrk, then Im afraid I dont know of any way to use the Unity panel at the same time as a tiling wm.
[22:18] <aarobc_wrk> shrimpy: in that case I will write my own
[22:18] <shrimpy> aarobc_wrk, oh, there are plenty of good panels to choose from. I just thought you said you wanted to continue using Unity.
[22:19] <aarobc_wrk> shrimpy: yeah, I just wanted something that will play nice with unity
[22:21] <shrimpy> Okay. Well my personal recommendation for tiling wm is dwm from suckless.
[22:21] <shrimpy> especially if you have any C programming experience
[22:21] <UrielVigilant> I had a folder called GNUstep and i deleted it . Could it make it Ubuntu 13.10 unstable ?
[22:23] <william1> When I run update-grub it changes the root in the menu entry to a UUID.  I would like this to be /dev/xvda and not change when I do a dist-upgrade.
[22:24] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys
[22:24] <Psil0Cybin> i installed the new kernel upgrade
[22:24] <Psil0Cybin> with the header and im getting this
[22:24] <Psil0Cybin> after i installed the headers http://pastebin.com/wDhkxQGF
[22:25] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: you aren't opening the .deb packages one by one are you? you're installing them right after each other with sudo dpkg *.deb
[22:25] <Psil0Cybin> Air-Yang, reisio, yeats: ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.12.0-031200-generic is not supported
[22:25] <Psil0Cybin> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.12.0-031200-generic (i686)
[22:25] <Psil0Cybin> Consult /var/lib/dkms/cedarview-drm/20120717/build/make.log for more information.
[22:25] <Ari-Yang> did you open it?
[22:25] <Ari-Yang> and pastebin it...
[22:25] <Ari-Yang> did you use dkms to install a module or something?
[22:28] <Junka> should i go for 64 or 32 bit
[22:28] <Rory> Junka: Generally if your computer is 64-bit you should install 64-bit, especially if you have 4GiB of RAM or more
[22:28] <Ari-Yang> Junka: uhhh... whatever system you have, you should install the appropriate OS...
[22:29] <Junka> I got only 2Gb of ram
[22:29] <reisio> Junka: irrelevant
[22:29] <reisio> Junka: 64 bit proc, 64 bit OS
[22:30] <Junka> I sometimes feel like my system hangs, possibly because it swaps? I do not know
[22:31] <shrimpy> Junka: this might help: http://linuxforcynics.com/how-to/which-architecture
[22:31] <reisio> when dealing with finite resources, you're always going to run out
[22:32] <reisio> shrimpy: Junka: ignore that link, it's crap
[22:32] <Junka> It does not help me
[22:33] <reisio> no it doesn't
[22:33] <shrimpy> resisio, Junka, maybe I misunderstood your question
[22:33] <reisio> shrimpy: well he wants help with "hanging" now
[22:33] <reisio> but finding some random blogger's explanation of his original 64 vs 32 bit questions doesn't mean you understand it
[22:33] <reisio> question*
[22:34] <shrimpy> reisio. Oh, I was still on the 64 vs 32 bit question.
[22:34] <reisio> I knowses :)
[22:34] <shrimpy> lol, goodluck with the "hanging"
[22:34] <Junka> it is sort of freezing
[22:34] <Junka> or something
[22:34] <reisio> perhaps you've...
[22:34] <reisio> opened a website using Flash :p
[22:35] <Junka> yeah and firefox is quite heavy
[22:35] <Junka> lots of ram
[22:35] <william1> Speaking of flash, anyone check out pipelight?  Been using it to watch NetFlix and Comcast videos.
[22:36] <Junka> 64 bit should be faster though not slower
[22:36] <reisio> mmhmmm
[22:36] <reisio> makes netflix happen :)
[22:36] <swcdx> what
[22:36] <reisio> Junka: it's not to do with your arch
[22:36] <swcdx> netflix on ubuntu
[22:36] <swcdx> what
[22:36] <william1> swcdx: well I am using Debian, but yes NetFlix on Linux with pipelight
[22:37] <reisio> Theycallmejzero: sup jzero
[22:37] <william1> It runs silverlight in wine and pipes the video to your native Linux browser.
[22:37] <swcdx> i am assuming it will work with ubuntu?
[22:37] <reisio> it works with anything
[22:37] <reisio> uses Wine
[22:37] <william1> swcdx: works with everything even Gentoo.
[22:37] <william1> It is better than the netflix-desktop as it uses your Linux browser not like before for it used the wine browser.
[22:38] <swcdx> great i am putting my daughter back on ubuntu
[22:38] <MoleMan> Is it possible to add a static route for everything above/between 192.168.0.50 - 192.168.0.255 ? or is it not possible as it's not a proper subnet or whatever?
[22:38] <william1> I get ever slight jutter and I am using an atom processor.
[22:38] <Junka> reisio so should i go with 64bit after all?
[22:38] <reisio> swcdx: heheh, exactly
[22:38] <reisio> Junka: if your proc is 64-bit, yes
[22:39] <Junka> ok thanks
[22:39] <william1> There really is no 32 bit vs 64 bit anymore.  The only problem with 64 bit YEARS ago was driver support.
[22:39] <reisio> I don't recall there ever being a problem :p
[22:39]  * MoleMan does
[22:39] <reisio> especially not compared to other OSes
[22:40] <MoleMan> although less so with linux, more windows
[22:40] <reisio> GNU/Linux was out in front
[22:40] <reisio> as ever
[22:42] <william1> Also the guys at pipelight are even making a plugin for shockwave:)
[22:42] <Aliekezhi> is 3.8 kernel considered as unstable on ubuntu ? with ubuntu precise LTS I have 3.2 kernel by default
[22:43] <Junka> mate desktop is lighter than xfce?
[22:43] <Nothing_Much> xfce is lighter
[22:43] <Nothing_Much> mate is outdated
[22:43] <zerowaitstate> Aliekezhi: I am using 13.10 and my kernel version (stable) is 3.11
[22:43] <Nothing_Much> Junka:
[22:43] <shwaiil> Hi
[22:44] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, how to display what ubuntu version I'm currently using ?
[22:44] <zerowaitstate> precise is 12.04
[22:44] <Rory> Aliekezhi: run the command "cat /etc/issue"
[22:45] <shwaiil> Q: I'm on 12.04 LTS and I'd like to upgrade PHP. Currently using 5.3.10 and I'd like at least 5.3.27! Is apt-get update and apt-get upgrade the way to do it ? Should I backup my php.ini ? Thanks for looking!
[22:45] <estudiante> Franco Dominguez
[22:45] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, 3.8 is in the list but not installed by default
[22:45] <pirret> Aliekezhi: lsb_release -a
[22:45] <Aliekezhi> Rory, thx for the tip
[22:46] <william1> shwaiil: the php package that Ubuntu has should have all the security fixes in the latest 5.3.X...
[22:46] <Aliekezhi> Rory, pirret, zerowaitstate : I have a srange bug maybe one of you could have an idea : if I open an image with any image viewer and any DE, the session logs out...but if I open an image with the command "display" the bug doesn't produce.Any idea what this could be linked with ?
[22:47] <zerowaitstate> sounds like your X.org is segfaulting
[22:48] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, [  4966.025] [mi] EQ overflow continuing.  100 events have been dropped.
[22:48] <Aliekezhi> and others in xorg.0.log
[22:48] <Aliekezhi> I can paste my whole xorg.0.log
[22:48] <zerowaitstate> paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[22:49] <zerowaitstate> it's probably a driver issue
[22:51] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407894/
[22:51] <lonewulf85> My conky app says that i do not have swap in ubuntu 12.04
[22:51] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, oh sorry looks like it didn't take all the lines
[22:52] <zerowaitstate> dump the end of the file
[22:52] <Aliekezhi> what program I could use to paste ? it seems wgetpaste is not on ubuntu default repos
[22:52] <trism> Aliekezhi: pastebinit
[22:52] <buu> Aliekezhi: apt-cache search paste
[22:53] <shwaiil> william1, thanks for looking! I've done a penetration test on my server and it claims 5.3.10 should be upgraded to at least 5.3.27
[22:54] <shwaiil> I tried apt-get update, install or upgrade and I still have 5.3.10
[22:54] <william1> shwaiil: it may not understand how a backport works from an upstream source.
[22:55] <shwaiil> william1, sorry you lost me. You mean the version 5.3.10 on 12.04 LTS have fixed the vulnerabilities ?
[22:55] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407909/
[22:56] <william1> shwaiil: It should.  It will keep it's stable number like 5.3.10 and backport just the security fixes from the 5.3 branch of php.  Let me see if I can find you something that shows you that.
[22:57] <Aliekezhi> "[  4965.605] [mi] EQ overflowing.  Additional events will be discarded until existing events are processed." and all the lines under seems to be related to my problem
[22:57] <Aliekezhi> and backtrace...
[22:57] <shwaiil> william1, thanks a lot for your support! By the way, how can I have a look on what versions of software I can get from my Ubuntu version choice ? Not sure if this is the PPA people talk about
[22:57] <Aliekezhi> looks like kernel/xorg crash
[22:58] <william1> shwaiil: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/p/php5/php5_5.3.10-1ubuntu3.8/changelog
[22:58] <zerowaitstate> the kernel didn't crash, Xorg did
[22:59] <zerowaitstate> otherwise your system would have hung
[22:59] <shwaiil> william1, thanks a lot! So, my penetration test asked me to upgrade to 5.3.27, in my case I did apt-get update and that's enought right ?
[23:00] <william1> shwaiil: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[23:00] <shwaiil> william1, should I care about backing up my configuration files ? such as apache, php, mysql
[23:00] <zerowaitstate> Aliekezhi: what does lspci show?
[23:01] <shwaiil> or it's safe to run those commands without having to ? I know ubuntu, or apparently warns me about conflicts
[23:01] <william1> shwaiil: it is safer than not sticking with the native packages.  Upstream sometimes changes more than they should within a branch which is why Ubuntu and other major distros backport just real fixes.
[23:02] <shwaiil> william1, thanks so much for your help;)
[23:02] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, lspci : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407935/
[23:02] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, currently using kernel 3.2
[23:02] <william1> you're welcome shwaiil
[23:05] <utahcon> I've got an Ubuntu 12.04LTS server that apt-get install apache2 says it installs but I get no /etc/apache2 directory created
[23:05] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, seems really similar to my bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1210397
[23:06] <Aliekezhi> :D
[23:07] <zerowaitstate> Aliekezhi, you're right, it does look very similar.
[23:07] <zerowaitstate> backtrace matches
[23:10] <zerowaitstate> you gonna try the fix mentioned?
[23:10] <lonewulf85> brightness does not go down when I tell it to ubuntu12.04
[23:14] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, I'm going to try first a newer kernel.does linux-image is enough or should I need some headers or other packages ?
[23:16] <zerowaitstate> I would grab the headers, and build-essential
[23:19] <coyote> coyote
[23:21] <Anonynimity> how would I download lib32ncurses5 in ubuntu 13.10?
[23:22] <Anonynimity> I need that, ia32-libs lib32z-dev, lib32readline-gplv2-dev lib32readline5, lib32readline6 and lib32bz2-dev on 13.10
[23:27] <key> hi there
[23:32] <Laban> Hello
[23:32] <Laban> In Unity, how can I remove certain pictures or recent documents from the scope/lens/unity-menu?
[23:32] <xstefen> pr0n?
[23:33] <Laban> Exactly.
[23:33] <Laban> What else? :)
[23:33] <xstefen> :D I have the same issue lol
[23:34] <IdleOne> I am not certain about this but I believe that if you put your files/media in hidden directories by add a . (dot) to the start of the directory name, they won't be shown in the scopes
[23:34] <xstefen> I seem to remember reading that somewhere also
[23:35] <Laban> Yeah but that's a hassle
[23:35] <Laban> Who hides their porn anyways?
[23:35] <jmgk> heh
[23:35] <AceBlade258> where should i do for help with a RAID
[23:35] <AceBlade258> *go
[23:35] <Laban> In an MMORPG Guild! :D
[23:36] <Laban> Naah... Whatcha' need?
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> Laban, go to privacy and turn off and clear the history.
[23:36] <IdleOne> Laban: you just asked how to. Also please be helpful and lets try and keep this channel family friendly.
[23:36] <Laban> Thanks. And yes, I'll behave. Sorry.
[23:37] <AceBlade258> I have an RAID 5 array that dropped a disk for some reason
[23:37] <xstefen> Family friendly... Miley Cyrus is worse than pr0n :\
[23:37] <xstefen> Jk, g'day sirs
[23:37] <AceBlade258> and I can't get it to add
[23:40] <Anonynimity> Laban - Create a new user account dedicated to that specific activity.
[23:41] <Anonynimity> then clear your unity lens history
[23:41] <AceBlade258> http://pastebin.com/f4sjYHxD - output from mdadm -M for each device
[23:41] <Anonynimity> go to system settings > privacy, and clean what you need
[23:42] <Laban> That's creative. :) What wilee-nilee suggested worked fine. Also found the folders not to record activity from which is good.
[23:42] <Anonynimity> to keep recent files turn off Record Activity
[23:42] <Anonynimity> from appearing***
[23:42] <Anonynimity> then click Delete History
[23:43] <Aliekezhi> is precise the lastest LTS version ?
[23:43] <Anonynimity> how would I download lib32ncurses5 in ubuntu 13.10?
[23:43] <Anonynimity> I need that, ia32-libs lib32z-dev, lib32readline-gplv2-dev lib32readline5, lib32readline6 and lib32bz2-dev on 13.10
[23:43] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Yes.
[23:44] <Aliekezhi> :(
[23:44] <AceBlade258> http://pastebin.com/UH6AmhQg - output from mdadm --details
[23:45] <Anonynimity> I believe it is Aliekezhi
[23:45] <Laban> So the system finds the hdd... but just won't attach it to the array?
[23:46] <Aliekezhi> Anonynimity,  ???
[23:46] <Anonynimity> I believe 12.04 is the newest LTS so far
[23:46] <Anonynimity> I know 13.04 is a STL, as is 13.10
[23:46] <Laban> AceBlade258: sdg seems to think that it is attached (or so I would interpret the array state at least)
[23:46] <AceBlade258> it's there
[23:47] <Aliekezhi> Anonynimity, well the bug report automatic message told me stopped being under devlopement
[23:47] <AceBlade258> i can hit it with a dd test
[23:47] <AceBlade258> it just won't add it...
[23:47] <Anonynimity> yes, 13.10 is no longer under dev, but it is still an STL
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> Laban, I use the shell rather than unity, but that privacy history is the first thing I turn off none the less, it keeps the dash from having just stuff not needed in general by me.
[23:47] <Anonynimity> until April (I think)
[23:47] <Aliekezhi> Anonynimity, so I can upgrade to a more recent LTS ? I'm using 12.04
[23:48] <Anonynimity> I dont think there are any more current LTS' right now
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, next lts is 14.04 about 5 months from release.
[23:48] <bekks> Aliekezhi: In April 2014, you can. Until then, you cant.
[23:49] <Aliekezhi> Anonynimity, 13.10 is LTS ? I'm using 12.04 and full of bugs, should I upgrade to 13.10 ?
[23:49] <agora> no 13.10 is not lts
[23:49] <Anonynimity> no 13.10 is a S.T.L
[23:49] <Aliekezhi> if I post bug reports for LTS, will it be usefull ?
[23:49] <Anonynimity> S.T.S** - Short Term
[23:49] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Sure.
[23:49] <agora> yep
[23:50] <Aliekezhi> memory got full and start swapping then xorg crash...can it be linked ?
[23:50] <Anonynimity> Yes, it can.
[23:51] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Then you are exhausting your RAM - and you need more RAM.
[23:51] <Anonynimity> I'm trying to follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274692
[23:51] <Aliekezhi> bekks, the strange thing is that there was not more RAM than this since several years and it didn't crash....
[23:51] <Anonynimity> I am running ubuntu 13.10, but I cannot find some of the following packages: git-core gnupg flex bison gperf build-essential zip curl zlib1g-dev zlib1g-dev:i386 libc6-dev lib32ncurses5-dev ia32-libs x11proto-core-dev libx11-dev:i386 libreadline6-dev:i386 lib32z-dev libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-dev g++-multilib mingw32 tofrodos python-markdown libxml2-utils xsltproc readline-common libreadline6-dev libreadline6 lib32readline-gplv2-dev libncurses
[23:51] <Anonynimity> 5-dev lib32readline5 lib32readline6 libreadline-dev libreadline6-dev:i386 libreadline6:i386 bzip2 libbz2-dev libbz2-1.0 libghc-bzlib-dev lib32bz2-dev libsdl1.2-dev libesd0-dev squashfs-tools pngcrush schedtool libwxgtk2.8-dev python
[23:51] <FloodBot1> Anonynimity: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:51] <Anonynimity> can anyone help me with this issue, please?
[23:52] <Rhomber> hey guys, what is the best recommended USB sound card for SPDIF/optical?
[23:52] <agora> anonynimity none of them are in the repos?
[23:52] <Rhomber> I have had probs with the sound blaster extigy and don't want to make a mistake getting a dud again :(
[23:52] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Then investiagte whats going on on your system.
[23:52] <Aliekezhi> Rhomber, there are a lot of USB sound cards with SPDIF....
[23:53] <bekks> Aliekezhi: investigate even.
[23:53] <Anonynimity> I know for a fact that lib32ncurses5 and "" - dev; lib32ncurses6 and --dev ; ia32-libs, arent
[23:53] <Rhomber> Aliekezi: yeah, and a lot don't work with Ubuntu / pulseaudio
[23:53] <Rhomber> SoundBlaster Extigy for example is detected fine, but doesn't work
[23:54] <agora> anonynimity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package
[23:54] <Aliekezhi> bekks, my investigation stops there (switching from 3.2 to 3.11 kernel didn't solve) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407909/
[23:54] <Rhomber> i just figured there has to be a card that is supported.. lots of small devices with no decent sound (Odroid / Raspberry Pi)
[23:54] <Aliekezhi> bekks, I only see xorg crashing when I open images files but no idea why
[23:55] <agora> anonynimity: also this is in the repo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/lib32ncurses5
[23:55] <Anonynimity> thank you agora
[23:55] <agora> anonynimity yw
[23:55] <newbie> Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit.  I can no longer empty trash and bleachbit clogs the system for a full system stop.  What to do?  Also ClamAv doesn't seem to want to work
[23:56] <Anonynimity> but agora - I'm on a 32 bit system -- i386 arch... all I see in that repo is amd64 arch
[23:56] <bekks> Aliekezhi: That log has nothing to do with investigating why your computer starts to swap :) free -m; iotop; ps aux; will help you to investigate that. And setting the kernel options vm.swappiness=10 and vm.oom_kill_allocating_task=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf will help even more.
[23:57] <bekks> Aliekezhi: And the backtrace part in the log (after the last line of the paste) would be the interesting part of the log, along with dmesg
[23:58] <agora> anonynimity did you try package-name:i386
[23:59] <Anonynimity> yes, still says "unable to locate package lib32ncurses5