[00:00] xnox: ty [07:52] any ideas here? https://gist.github.com/jeremyjbowers/4416665#comment-948473 complete newb here [07:56] hrm, worked with sudo .. I didn't expect to have to use sudo [09:07] If I install a new version of a software package that was originally installed with apt-get, using make install, could that break an Upstart job? [09:07] I updated from ZNC 1.0 (using backports) to ZNC 1.2 (by compiling and make install'ing from github) and suddenly the Upstart job stopped working [09:09] The error I get is: $ sudo service znc start [09:09] start: Job failed to start [09:09] not especially helpful, since it doesn't tell me why [09:10] it also doesn't appear to be sending any errors to /var/log/upstart/znc.log as that file no longer exists (it got logrotated out, I guess)