| manchicken | Tonio: ping | 01:34 |
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| manchicken | Re-factoring this libqapt code to be more testable is actually a rather large task. | 01:53 |
| manchicken | Fun... I'm getting warnings from apt-pkg: ...libqapt/src/backend.cpp:1295:24: warning: ‘void pkgProblemResolver::InstallProtect()’ is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/apt-pkg/algorithms.h:137) [-Wdeprecated-declarations] | 02:32 |
| manchicken | I want to be a good little hacker and fix this, but I don't see any documentation on an upgrade path. | 02:37 |
| leif_ | greetings | 05:39 |
| soee | good morning | 07:16 |
| leif_ | morning | 07:16 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:18 |
| Riddell | bon dia | 08:41 |
| lordievader | Hey Riddell, first one in the office again? ;) | 08:44 |
| Riddell | nobody here but me, perfect chance to play Spice Girls at full volume | 08:48 |
| lordievader | Spice Girls, wow haven't heard that in ages. | 08:48 |
| * Riddell wants a zig-a-zig-a | 08:49 | |
| Riddell | Blizzz: owncloud 5.0.12 in updates for 13.10 | 08:56 |
| Riddell | sadly I couldn't get it to work for older versions :( | 08:56 |
| Riddell | parad1se_: thanks for the test case on bug 1071453 | 08:57 |
| ubottu | bug 1071453 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu Precise) "Dolphin doesn't store samba share password" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071453 | 08:57 |
| parad1se_ | Riddell: No problem, thank you for build and support!! | 08:58 |
| Riddell | parad1se_: there's one more task you need to do | 08:59 |
| Riddell | parad1se_: you need to test the actual packages as compiled in precise-proposed | 09:00 |
| Riddell | then report back that they're good on the bug and tag with verification-done | 09:00 |
| Riddell | then next week they'll go into precise-updates | 09:00 |
| Blizzz | Riddell: great, thanks! I am a bit sorry to say it, but meanwhile we also have 5.0.13 containing a security fix (though not affecting a default kubuntu installation, related to MariaDB). http://owncloud.org/changelog/ | 09:00 |
| Riddell | Blizzz: you like to keep us on our toes :) | 09:00 |
| Blizzz | Riddell: you know, the saying goes release early, release often ;) | 09:01 |
| Blizzz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3283541 | 09:03 |
| parad1se_ | Riddell: OK, what is precise-proposed? A Repository? | 09:08 |
| Riddell | parad1se_: yeah if you edit /etc/apt/sources.list and copy the lines which say precise-updates so you have ones with precise-proposed as well | 09:08 |
| Riddell | then update and install the packages | 09:08 |
| Riddell | parad1se_: we are very careful with stable release updates as you will be noticing, worse than having bugs is to introduce new ones | 09:09 |
| parad1se_ | Riddell: OK, I will try. Do I have to delete the packages and install again? | 09:09 |
| parad1se_ | I mean kde-runtime packages? | 09:10 |
| parad1se_ | Because I have install the kde-runtime packages and depencies from your repo. | 09:11 |
| Riddell | parad1se_: yeah that might be a good idea | 09:13 |
| parad1se_ | Riddell: OK. :) Thanks. | 09:17 |
| Riddell | leif_: do you have saucy installed? we could do with a muon tester if so | 09:19 |
| leif_ | Riddell, ok :) | 10:10 |
| leif_ | sorry was afk | 10:10 |
| Riddell | leif_: bug 1250114 if you can help out | 10:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1250114 in muon (Ubuntu Saucy) "SRU to 2.1.1" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1250114 | 10:11 |
| Riddell | leif_: install the packages from saucy-proposed and check everything still works and listed bugs are fixed | 10:11 |
| leif_ | ok installing moun now | 10:12 |
| leif_ | ahh' | 10:13 |
| leif_ | cant fiend it | 10:14 |
| Riddell | leif_: 2.1.1 from saucy-proposed? | 10:15 |
| leif_ | can fiend it in any of my pacakege installers | 10:15 |
| Riddell | leif_: have you enabled -proposed? | 10:15 |
| leif_ | ok | 10:17 |
| leif_ | what does it do | 10:17 |
| Riddell | leif_: it allows you to install updates we need tested | 10:17 |
| leif_ | ok | 10:17 |
| Riddell | we test the updates before they are made available to everyone | 10:17 |
| leif_ | :) | 10:18 |
| leif_ | where do i fiend moun | 10:18 |
| leif_ | sorry still new | 10:18 |
| Riddell | leif_: are you using the command line or gui tools? | 10:20 |
| leif_ | gui | 10:22 |
| leif_ | should i use apt-get | 10:22 |
| leif_ | did learn that a couple of days ago | 10:23 |
| Riddell | leif_: in software-properties-kde under Updates tab tick pre-released and unsupported-updates | 10:24 |
| leif_ | ok | 10:25 |
| leif_ | thanks | 10:25 |
| Riddell | leif_: on command line run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 10:25 |
| leif_ | :)' | 10:25 |
| Riddell | use apt-cache policy muon to ensure muon 2.1.1 is installed | 10:25 |
| leif_ | ok | 10:25 |
| Riddell | run each of the muon applications and check they work to install/uninstall/upgrade software etc and the bugs listed in bug 1250114 are fixed | 10:26 |
| ubottu | bug 1250114 in muon (Ubuntu Saucy) "SRU to 2.1.1" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1250114 | 10:26 |
| smartboyhw | Hello all | 10:42 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw! | 10:43 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell! | 10:43 |
| Riddell | dood | 10:43 |
| lordievader | Hey smartboyhw, how have you been? | 10:43 |
| smartboyhw | lordievader, busy. | 10:43 |
| smartboyhw | I'm taking TOEFL on Saturday:OO | 10:44 |
| lordievader | smartboyhw: English test right? Good luck! | 10:44 |
| smartboyhw | lordievader: Thx | 10:44 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: but you speak perfect english, you'll pass easy | 10:45 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: Huh, the listening is difficult, since the accent is a bit difficult to get used to. | 10:45 |
| lordievader | British English accent? | 10:46 |
| smartboyhw | lordievader: Mixed | 10:46 |
| Riddell | we need to do more mumble calls to help you practice :) | 10:46 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: Did you vote for CC? And you guys have better accents than those on the practice paper recordings. | 10:47 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: I remember voting for you for something | 10:48 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: Heh heh | 10:49 |
| cortexA9 | hello | 10:54 |
| Riddell | hi cortexA9 | 10:57 |
| Riddell | so anyone want to test this muon update in saucy? | 10:57 |
| cortexA9 | Riddell: i am not on kubuntu right now sry | 11:03 |
| leif_ | lol | 11:07 |
| Riddell | leif_: how did you get on with muon? | 11:08 |
| leif_ | found it | 11:08 |
| leif_ | aand installed it now i just gotta sort out how to use it | 11:09 |
| cortexA9 | any update for the kde 4.11.80 on trusty ? | 11:11 |
| Riddell | still WIP, see notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | 11:12 |
| * Riddell mostly working on kde frameworks this week | 11:12 | |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: wow, you're a champion of non-merged packages. are you gonna to merge them all with Debian to get 4.11.3 in trusty? | 12:23 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: I hear there's some progress going on wrt OTR support, I'm kind of busy working on 4.12 and fixing muon/qapt right now :) | 12:43 |
| shadeslayer | whaaa http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.80_trusty.html | 12:44 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Good to hear. Thanks. | 12:50 |
| Riddell | ari-tczew: so far I've not thought much about merging or updating packages, going straight to 4.11.80 in trust would make sense | 13:07 |
| markey_work | so Muon still crashes for me a lot, with latest updates | 13:19 |
| markey_work | in libQApt | 13:20 |
| Riddell | markey_work: from saucy-updates or saucy-proposed? | 13:23 |
| markey_work | I think updates | 13:24 |
| markey_work | not sure right now, have to check at home | 13:24 |
| Riddell | markey_work: the packages in saucy-proposed needs testing if you can, bug 1250114 | 13:35 |
| ubottu | bug 1250114 in muon (Ubuntu Saucy) "SRU to 2.1.1" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1250114 | 13:35 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | markey_work: can I get the backtrace? | 13:47 |
| markey_work | didn't have debug symbols installed for libqapt. will install | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | thx | 13:52 |
| shadeslayer | Thoughts on where to put akonadi2xml ? ( Converts akonadi collections to XML ) | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | comes from kdepimlibs | 14:44 |
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| shadeslayer | yofel: ScottK Riddell ^^ | 14:46 |
| shadeslayer | seems like a developer tool to me, so kdepimlibs5-dev ? | 14:46 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: best confirm it is a developer tool | 14:49 |
| Riddell | http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/fileinfo?rpmID=42227&filename=/usr/bin/akonadi2xml fedora say kdepim-runtime | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | comes from kdepimlibs :S | 14:50 |
| Riddell | mm, curious | 14:51 |
| shadeslayer | !find akonadi2xml | 14:52 |
| ubottu | File akonadi2xml found in kdepim-runtime, kdepim-runtime-dbg | 14:52 |
| shadeslayer | o_o | 14:52 |
| shadeslayer | so I suppose it's gone from kdepim-runtime | 14:52 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: we have it installed by default now | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | right | 14:54 |
| Riddell | so worth checking why it's moved | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | markey_work: still waiting for that backtrace :) | 15:10 |
| markey_work | I'm in the office | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | alrighty | 15:10 |
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| leif_ | evning | 16:41 |
| Riddell | hi leif_ | 16:41 |
| Riddell | how did you get on with muon? | 16:41 |
| leif_ | not found any bugs atm but whent shopping | 16:42 |
| Riddell | leif_: can you leave feedback on bug 1250114 when you're happy and change the tag to verification-done? | 16:43 |
| ubottu | bug 1250114 in muon (Ubuntu Saucy) "SRU to 2.1.1" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1250114 | 16:43 |
| Riddell | parad1se_: don't forget about testing for bug 1071453 :) | 17:26 |
| ubottu | bug 1071453 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu Precise) "Dolphin doesn't store samba share password" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071453 | 17:26 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ScottK apachelogger thoughts on dropping the Version column in Muon updater? | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: any reason why https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/sysadmin/muon/repository/revisions/5705d05d4fe570e64d8a2843f7f6c8d7faba8029 isn't in the 2.1 branch? | 17:57 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: any reason? | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I personally find it useless and leads to bugs like https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287921 | 18:01 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 287921 in updater "The column sizes can't be changed in updater" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | apol agreed over lunch, I don't see the value in showing the version in a separate column | 18:01 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I've no objection, the version is in the changelog entry anyway | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | maybe show it in each item in the delegate as small text | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: that was another issue :P | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | changelogs are useless for end users since they almost always show packaging changes | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | ( in the context of KDE packages ) | 18:02 |
| Riddell | it is geek speak | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | right | 18:03 |
| Riddell | but on updates they might be interesting | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | For the end user? I am unsure | 18:06 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I leave it to your wise opinion :) | 18:19 |
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| soee | Riddell, thank you for the kdeconnect package | 20:25 |
| ovidiu-florin | has KDE 4.11.3 came to Backports yet? | 20:44 |
| ovidiu-florin | I guess I need to learn about Kubuntu packages in order to help with this, right? | 20:49 |
| ahoneybun | hey ovidiu-florin | 21:07 |
| ahoneybun | is anyone working on a new package for the docs | 21:07 |
| ahoneybun | ? | 21:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | I've just started reading about debian packages | 21:12 |
| ovidiu-florin | I've made a few before, but I want to be sure I'll do it "the right way" | 21:13 |
| ahoneybun | oh I see that one was made on halloween | 21:19 |
| ahoneybun | but not sure if that included the fix that Oliver made | 21:20 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: What new package? | 21:36 |
| ahoneybun | lordievader: kubuntu-docs | 22:21 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: Yes, but what should be new in the package ;) | 22:29 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: I want details ;) | 22:29 |
| ahoneybun | lordievader: the fix to bug 1240807 for one thing | 23:18 |
| ubottu | bug 1240807 in kubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Broken relative links in HTML docs" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240807 | 23:18 |
| ahoneybun | anyone have samba exp? | 23:19 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: Thought Riddell wasn't to happy with that. | 23:22 |
| ahoneybun | lordievader: ? | 23:23 |
| ahoneybun | the bug? | 23:23 |
| ahoneybun | or the fix? | 23:23 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: The fix, it is quite dirty, I agree with him on that. Bunch of js rewrite rules pretty much. | 23:24 |
| ahoneybun | lordievader: I did really look into it much tbh | 23:25 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: Did or didn't? If you did, did you find an alternate solution? | 23:28 |
| ahoneybun | did not | 23:29 |
| ahoneybun | sorry | 23:29 |
| lordievader | Anyhow time to go home and go to bed. Sleep well. | 23:32 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: don't drop the version column. | 23:45 |
| shadeslayer | Any specific reason we *want* it? | 23:46 |
| * shadeslayer looks at how OS X does it | 23:46 | |
| mamarley | Don't look at how OSX does it. OSX is not an operating system designed for power users. | 23:47 |
| ScottK | Versions are important. See the furor when mozilla tried to ditch firefox versions. | 23:47 |
| mamarley | I like to know which version of the package I am looking at. | 23:47 |
| shadeslayer | mamarley: doesn't hurt to look at what other people are doing :) | 23:48 |
| shadeslayer | mamarley: and what does that version tell you? | 23:48 |
| mamarley | Knowing the version is important. Especially if one wants to report bugs upstream. | 23:49 |
| mamarley | OSX also doesn't allow the user to configure whether or not the laptop goes to sleep when the lid closes. Neither does GNOME, the last time I checked. One of the reasons I use KDE and Linux is that I like to see and control what my system is doing. | 23:50 |
| valorie | for the record, I like having a tab where I can read up on the geekspeak stuff in muon | 23:56 |
| valorie | I also appreciate that it's not presented by default, since I've often used it in the paste for searches | 23:57 |
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