[04:42] <ussher_> in settings->multiple monitors i have 'display 1' 'display2' 'display3'  and want to change the order.  I want display 3 to be display 1.  any ideas how to do this?
[06:38] <rohan> after the latest kde update, my fonts are looking very weird, especially in google chrome. is this a known issue?
[08:18] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:31] <nv_> good morning!~
[08:35] <lordievader> Hey nv_, how are you?
[08:36] <nv_> enjoying my GNU life
[09:08] <dewdrop> Hi, I installed kubuntu-desktop after instaling Ubuntu. Now how do I uninstall Ubuntu?
[09:12] <lordievader> !purekde | dewdrop
[09:13] <dewdrop> lordievader: thanks, it says it applies to 12.10 only, but I am on 13.10,  would it still work?
[09:14] <lordievader> dewdrop: Probably. As long as you target the libs that the whole of Unity depends on ;)
[10:52] <eagles0513875> oh joy kontact is giving me issues :(
[13:09] <excognac> hi all can i mess up anything in kubuntu13.10 (sole Os on a desktop machine) with installing xfceenvironment?
[13:42] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:04] <eagles0513875> hey guys is anyone in here using kontact with gmail and 2factor authentication
[14:13] <Pici> eagles0513875: You should just need to setup an application specific password on google to get that to work.
[14:13] <Pici> eagles0513875: https://accounts.google.com/b/0/IssuedAuthSubTokens?hl=en&hide_authsub=1
[14:13] <eagles0513875> Pici: did that and outgoing still doesnt work
[14:13] <eagles0513875> also i have had random crashes with kontact and kmail so im wondering if its in relation to  it or not
[14:13] <Pici> eagles0513875: you need to make sure to use that same password for that as well.
[14:14] <Pici> I personally don't use kontact, but I just setup mutt to do my gmail.
[14:14] <eagles0513875> Pici: what was odd is that it worked fine until i setup 2factor
[14:44] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875. yes it is , but I got burned by it's bugs and haven't gone back
[14:48] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: gotcha you wouldnt try it again seeing as it gets installed side by side?
[14:48] <eagles0513875> brb going to get on neon
[14:48] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875.well, my question is , what are it's benefits ?
[14:58] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: for me with neon i get much higher resolution with my laptop granted it doesnt detect my track pad at all
[14:58] <eagles0513875> all i know and feel is that with 13.10 the kubuntu team really botched things up i hate to say
[15:00] <eagles0513875> cant tell you much else.
[15:00] <eagles0513875> at this point BluesKaj
[15:00] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875. ok , OI havn't experienced any "real problems" with 13.10 , but I run a plain desktop without too many edgy apps or effects
[15:00] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: mine was a default fresh install
[15:00] <eagles0513875> nothing out of the ordinary and i have lots of issues
[15:00] <eagles0513875> from track pad to random screen flashes to random audio issues which i think i have fixed finally
[15:01] <eagles0513875> and resolution is much lower too for me
[15:01] <BluesKaj> besides i spend most of my time on 14.04 now and all is well with it so far
[15:03] <eagles0513875> O_o
[15:03] <eagles0513875> i might test out 14.04 in a vm
[15:03] <lordievader> Trusty is nice :)
[15:03] <eagles0513875> should start testing it on my test vps
[15:03] <BluesKaj> i use a partition , less clunky on this old pc that way'
[15:03] <eagles0513875> cuz lots of things have changed server side it seems with apache
[15:07] <eagles0513875> oddly enough BluesKaj im noticing over all quicker browser speed
[15:08] <lordievader> My old laptop is dedicated to running the development release.
[15:08] <eagles0513875> lordievader: im noticing the dev release of kde to be so much better then 13.10 release
[15:09] <eagles0513875> granted my track pad isnt detected at all im noticing overall better performance then standard 13.10 kde version
[15:10] <eagles0513875> talk later :) need to wash and relocate for a class
[16:11] <eagles0513875> ok im back again
[16:12] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: lordievader for sure my resolution on 4.11.2 in 13.10 is way lower
[16:12] <eagles0513875> the problem is if you go to display in system settingss there is no way to change the screen resolution
[16:12] <BluesKaj> weird
[16:13] <lordievader> eagles0513875: Use xrandr ;)
[16:14] <eagles0513875> oddly enough its the same outcome in neon as wlel BluesKaj
[16:14] <eagles0513875> i am thinking of filing a bug against this cuz that is not right
[16:16] <BluesKaj> OpenGL 3.1 works great here , but laptops have limited res with the onboard gpus
[16:17] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i get higher resolution in neon
[16:17] <eagles0513875> higher then i get in 4.11.2 in 13.10
[16:17] <lordievader> eagles0513875: Project Neon under Kubuntu?
[16:29] <genii> OpenGL and WebGL both work great for me here.
[16:35] <BluesKaj> genii. webGL is that the chromium plugin ?
[16:36] <tsimpson> WebGL is an open standard
[16:36] <BluesKaj> hmm , i don't have that option
[16:41] <genii> BluesKaj: Basically it's inside of the mesa graphics system already. In firefox about:config you can normally set it if it's not already enabled. Mine is like so: http://imagebin.org/276871
[16:58] <BluesKaj> genii. thanks , enabled the webgl-prefer-native-gl .  webgl.osmesalib isn't listed here
[17:02] <BluesKaj> genii. you must have the libosmesa devel apps installed , correct ?
[17:04] <genii> As far as I know i just have libosmesa6 installed. I enabled it on this box a long time ago, I think when it still ran Lucid and it's been just continuously upgraded since
[17:07] <genii> BluesKaj: Looks like the file got moved when they went multiarch to either /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ or /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ , even though it still works here for some reason
[17:10] <BluesKaj> genii. alright thanks
[17:19] <MangaKaDenza> say how do I open a plasmoid ?
[17:26] <genii> MangaKaDenza: Can you clarify what you mean?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> hehe , good luck :)
[17:33] <MangaKaDenza> wait.. I found a weird bug after looking at my add widgets thing
[17:33] <MangaKaDenza> so... you know the button where it says
[17:33] <MangaKaDenza> "Get new widgets"
[17:33] <MangaKaDenza> Well, when I click on that, there aren't any options!
[17:33] <MangaKaDenza> how do I fix that...
[17:34] <BluesKaj> you have to enter the app name in the search bar on the left
[17:34] <MangaKaDenza> ...
[17:34] <MangaKaDenza> No I mean.. the option to download more widgets is gone
[17:34] <MangaKaDenza> as well as the install from local file
[17:35] <BluesKaj> click add widgets , the get new widgets should be in th epopup
[17:35] <MangaKaDenza> ...
[17:36] <MangaKaDenza> yeah.. cuz obviously I didn't do that the first time
[17:36] <MangaKaDenza> :<
[17:36] <MangaKaDenza> I tried that already!
[17:36] <MangaKaDenza> and also...
[17:36] <MangaKaDenza> the add plasma widgets thing in muon discover is gone too
[17:39] <genii> MangaKaDenza: Make a new panel somewhere else on the screen. eg: right-click, Add Panel... Default Panel .... then see if you can get to it from that one
[17:41] <MangaKaDenza> genii, nope
[17:41] <genii> Hm.
[17:42] <genii> MangaKaDenza: What's the last thing you did before it stopped working?
[17:42] <MangaKaDenza> installed 13.10
[17:43] <genii> MangaKaDenza: You did a do-release-upgrade or something similar?
[17:43] <MangaKaDenza> je
[17:43] <genii> MangaKaDenza: Did you reboot since then?
[17:43] <MangaKaDenza> ...many times
[17:47] <genii> MangaKaDenza: I would recommend: logout to sign-in screen, then: ctrl-alt-f1 and login by console. Then: mv .kde .oldke      then: sudo service lightdm restart
[17:48] <MangaKaDenza> k
[17:48] <genii> MangaKaDenza: If it doesn't dump you back to login screen from there, use ctrl-f7 to get back to it, then login by that way and should be like "factory" desktop
[17:49] <MangaKaDenza> wat
[17:49] <MangaKaDenza> it won't let me log out
[17:49] <MangaKaDenza> weird
[17:53] <genii> MangaKaDenza: Yes, that's very odd. Can you open konsole?
[17:53] <MangaKaDenza> sure
[17:53] <MangaKaDenza> done
[17:54] <MangaKaDenza> er... I click logout... but the popup only shows "lock screen, sleep, shutdown"
[17:54] <genii> MangaKaDenza: Make sure now you have the instructions I gave written down, because the next instructions will kill your X session
[17:55] <MangaKaDenza> yep
[17:55] <MangaKaDenza> gimme the goods
[17:56] <genii> MangaKaDenza: This will dump you forcibly back to the login screen from where you are now: sudo service lightdm restart
[18:01] <denza252> genii, noep
[18:02] <denza252> didn't work
[18:03] <denza252> ...
[18:04] <MangaKaDenza> wait wat
[18:04] <MangaKaDenza> how is this session still up
[18:05] <MangaKaDenza> genii, I don't get it
[18:08] <genii> MangaKaDenza: It didn't time out yet is all.
[18:08] <genii> Work requires me (plumbers). No return ETA yet.
[18:25] <MangaKaDenza> blargh
[18:26] <MangaKaDenza> is there a way to downgrade back to 13.04 for a bit?
[18:27] <crowell> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
[18:27] <crowell> honestly, its not really recommended to do though
[19:22] <nick07> hi, anyone knows how i can stream audio/video from freenas server to my kubuntu computer? I can connect, but it tell me it need some kind of ssh plugin?
[20:45] <anubis> Whats is Kubuntus audio-whatever? if i restart lightdm i have no more sound and kmix doesnt show my device anymore. moreover whenever i use jack i dont get normal sound afterwards . how can i restart sound?
[20:56] <Remaille> hi
[20:56] <Remaille> how could i deactivate the network manager on the eth0 ?
[21:00] <lordievader> Remaille: sudo ifconfig eth0 down ? Or is that not what you mean?
[21:00] <Remaille> thanks lordievader: actually i want to put my own parameters en eth0
[21:00] <KomiaPoika> hi
[21:00] <Remaille> and network manger (?) erase my settings every 5 mins
[21:01] <Remaille> on ubuntu, i knwo, but not on kubuntu :)
[21:01] <KomiaPoika> is it possible to have gnome available from the startx menu as window manager in kubuntu?
[21:16] <dewdrop> Hi, is it possible to make kubuntu save the brightness setting?
[21:19] <Scunizi> How do I get rid of the "knock" Boink sounds when closing tabs in Chrome? I've googled with no results outside of deleting files.
[21:53] <Remaille> ok found it :) lordievader
[21:53] <Remaille> just an option into a GUI
[21:54] <Remaille> :-s i hope it was possible on CLI
[21:54] <mylar> Anyone having problems with accelerated graphics with 13.10 on haswell? [drm:ring_stuck] *ERROR* Kicking stuck wait on render ring
[21:55] <mylar> clean install works fine, but after installing a few packages fonts get ugly and vlc does not render accerlated.
[22:22] <user___> was there a recent flash update for kubuntu 13.04 this week or day
[22:33] <lordievader> user___: Yes, 4 hours ago: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree
[22:34] <user_____> tyvm
[22:42] <gassho> how do i determine how much memory my graphics hardware haz
[22:48] <gassho> i got a terminal open, will appropriate
[22:50] <stimoceiver> so I did a fresh install of Kubuntu the other day, ended up with the Muon package manager showing almost nothing, searches for typical ubuntu universe and multiverse showed no results (irssi, screen, chromium)
[22:50] <stimoceiver> installed synaptic, synaptic showed the 'missing' packages... is this a known bug?
[22:52] <stimoceiver> also, the machine I installed it on has a desperate need of Radeon proprietary drivers (or possibly XRandR) due to ridiculous overscan on a Mitsubishi DLP TV, but I couldnt get any of the current tutorials on how to get them installed to actually work
[22:54] <stimoceiver> and its a fairly recent radeon card: HD4850