| smoku | why would you wand libhybris on a desktop? | 00:00 |
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| Nothing_Much | Even if I include the "/usr/include" folder, it still doesn't work, it wants a file called android-version.h or something | 00:00 |
| Nothing_Much | I'm on an Arm PC at the moment | 00:01 |
| Nothing_Much | with an SGX 544 graphics card | 00:01 |
| Nothing_Much | That's why I need libhybris | 00:01 |
| smoku | oh | 00:04 |
| smoku | so I guess you need to pull the android source for your PC, to get that | 00:04 |
| smoku | you can do that on an intel PC wit a bigger hdd | 00:05 |
| Nothing_Much | smoku: just for headers? | 00:08 |
| Nothing_Much | do I need more than just headers for libhybris? | 00:08 |
| TechieElf | smoku I'm clueless on how to build from the source. The instructions in the readme only show how to get the source | 00:09 |
| smoku | Nothing_Much, I would check how Mer guys are building it | 00:09 |
| Nothing_Much | it's only for the cubiboard... | 00:10 |
| smoku | TechieElf, follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | 00:11 |
| smoku | Nothing_Much, the procedure for your board should be similar | 00:12 |
| Nothing_Much | yeah but | 00:12 |
| Nothing_Much | where are the android headers that don't take up all of my freaking hdd space???? | 00:13 |
| Nothing_Much | I used that repo init script | 00:13 |
| Nothing_Much | and it downloads ALL OF THE PROJECTS | 00:13 |
| Nothing_Much | I ONLY NEED 4.2.1_R1 | 00:13 |
| Nothing_Much | Sheesh, I've been at this for freaking days | 00:14 |
| kdub | no need to shout | 00:14 |
| kdub | https://android.googlesource.com/platform/hardware/libhardware/ | 00:14 |
| Nothing_Much | oh my god it still doesn't work | 00:18 |
| Nothing_Much | now it's asking for manifest files | 00:18 |
| Nothing_Much | I need step by step instructions just to get these damn headers | 00:18 |
| Nothing_Much | pardon my language | 00:18 |
| TechieElf | smoku: "make: *** No rule to make target `/home/techieelf/xt907_phablet/out/host/linux-x86/bin/bsdiff', needed by `/home/techieelf/xt907_phablet/out/target/product/xt907/cm_xt907-ota-eng.techieelf.zip'. Stop." Something went wrong when building? | 00:19 |
| smoku | TechieElf, or the repo for xt907 is not compatible with trusty-phablet anymore | 00:21 |
| TechieElf | What can I do? | 00:22 |
| smoku | TechieElf, fix it :) | 00:22 |
| TechieElf | How? :P | 00:22 |
| TechieElf | smoku.. when you say not compatible.. what exactly do you mean? | 00:26 |
| smoku | TechieElf, requires files which current build does not provide | 00:28 |
| TechieElf | smoku: As in android propietary blobs? | 00:29 |
| smoku | bsdiff does not sound like proprietary ;-) | 00:29 |
| TechieElf | smoku: I have no clue what half of these things are yet.. explain? :3 | 00:30 |
| smoku | TechieElf, I don't have time for crash course. but I will answer specific questions when you have ones | 00:32 |
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| TechieElf | smoku: I grabbed bsdiff's source and plopped it in where it was needed. Hope that was correct. | 00:44 |
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| Thunderkey | any helpful tips for installing touch on a motorola xoom? | 01:15 |
| TechieElf | smoku the build finished. Can you explain what the different files that were outputted are for? | 01:21 |
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| TechieElf | Any devs still active? | 02:22 |
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| TechieElf | Welcome back, Nothing_Much | 02:49 |
| TechieElf | Hashcode, you available for a moment? I've built the xt907 phablet zip and flashed it along with the trusty fs, and flashed the ubuntu-boot.img. I'm stuck in a boot loop. Ideas? | 03:15 |
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| AskUbuntu | Install Ubuntu SDK in Pear OS 8 | http://askubuntu.com/q/376288 | 04:13 |
| unpopsicle | does ubuntu touch have that desktop mode yet? | 05:06 |
| SamZaNemesis | You can run X11 over HDMI, yes | 05:10 |
| RAOF | Wait, what? Really? | 05:14 |
| SamZaNemesis | Ubuntu Touch REQUIRES VT support, required to run X, and it happens to include X as well, since Ubuntu touch at it's core is Android Linux you can change the framebuffer for X to the MHL port | 05:15 |
| RAOF | I guess you can use fbdev there. I didn't know we shipped /usr/bin/Xorg | 05:16 |
| SamZaNemesis | my builds for Motorola Defy at least ship with X | 05:17 |
| SamZaNemesis | I wanted to add VT support to my HTC Ville (One S) but I don't know how to do kernel debugging | 05:17 |
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| SamZaNemesis | but yeah, I'm sure most of "Ubuntu for Android" is based on just chrooted ubuntu with a kernel with VT support, but canonical has stopped doing open development because they want to license it to companies | 05:22 |
| unpopsicle | SamZaNemesis: I thought ubuntu for android was a different project | 05:26 |
| RAOF | Yeah, 'tis. | 05:29 |
| SamZaNemesis | Ubuntu for android is a different project | 06:10 |
| newbie___ | hello | 06:24 |
| newbie___ | anyone can help me with some problem | 06:25 |
| den4ik | how do i start building image for new device? (crespo) all "read me"s seems to be outdated | 06:57 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:58 |
| den4ik | good evening | 06:58 |
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| qiuxue | hi | 08:47 |
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| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy World Kindness Day! :-D | 09:58 |
| jalcine | hi jos | 10:27 |
| jalcine | next time ask me if you want a PM | 10:27 |
| jalcine | it's like walking into my house and borrowing a pen and I don't know who you are | 10:27 |
| jalcine | jos: stop PMing me in private | 10:28 |
| unpopsicle | jalcine: maybe he wants some sexy text action | 10:32 |
| jalcine | unpopsicle: lol well I'm not down | 10:32 |
| mandel_ | oSoMoN, ping | 10:45 |
| ogra_ | mandel_, hey, you pinged yesterday | 10:45 |
| mandel_ | ogra_, yes, I had a fix for u-d-m about that upgrade bug, I wondered if you could test it in a device but ti looks like it was also fixed in the server side and in the s-i client side | 10:46 |
| mandel_ | ogra_, we hit 3 bugs at once... impressive | 10:46 |
| ogra_ | heh, yeah | 10:46 |
| ogra_ | well, vila still had some probs today | 10:46 |
| mandel_ | ogra_, yeah, I read the bug, I had not deployed my fix (PS Jenkins is down and I'm waiting on that) | 10:47 |
| ogra_ | (he was stuck on 17 and didnt get an update provided by the UZI but s-i-c worked) | 10:47 |
| ogra_ | *UI | 10:47 |
| ogra_ | yup, i know ... | 10:47 |
| mandel_ | ogra_, the issue with the progress bar is that the progress is calculated based on the number of files.. so when I get to same local paths I'm writing to the same path and that makes the progress funky | 10:47 |
| ogra_ | right ... well, if there is a fix we're all fine ... | 10:48 |
| ogra_ | (once CI is back) | 10:48 |
| mandel_ | ogra_, I've fixed that but nevertheless I've greatly improve u-d-m (going to sound like a project manager) and removed a lot of tech debt | 10:48 |
| ogra_ | :) | 10:48 |
| mandel_ | ogra_, fixes are in trunk and in a saucy branch I have to minimize the diff in saucy | 10:48 |
| vila | mandel_: ha, progress bar issues make sense then, duplicate files issues are fixed right ? (But not yet available IIUC) | 10:50 |
| mandel_ | vila, yes, it is fixed but not available | 10:51 |
| vila | great | 10:51 |
| mandel_ | vila, once CI is fixed we will land it | 10:51 |
| mandel_ | didrocks, ping | 10:52 |
| vila | mandel_: still waiting for feedback on whether CI is plugged (power and network) again, *then* we can start making sure the engine is functional (IP -> name migration) | 10:52 |
| didrocks | hey mandel_ | 10:52 |
| mandel_ | didrocks, hello! | 10:52 |
| mandel_ | didrocks, I'm wondering, I have a fix that was hitting us with u-d-m and si to be landed in lp:ubuntu-download-manager/saucy (and trunk) | 10:53 |
| mandel_ | didrocks, could we land the one in the saucy branch as soon as CI is back? | 10:53 |
| didrocks | mandel_: no, apart from really critical fix, we don't land anything else in saucy | 10:53 |
| didrocks | as told in many emails :) | 10:53 |
| didrocks | we don't support the saucy build, people in less than a week will migrate to trusty on the stable channel | 10:54 |
| mandel_ | didrocks, it is a critical bug, stops you from upgrading :) | 10:54 |
| mandel_ | didrocks, but we can ignore it, as you wish | 10:54 |
| didrocks | mandel_: will people on image 100 won't be able to upgrade on image 20? | 10:54 |
| mandel_ | didrocks, it is related with the delta, to be honest I think that they also fixed the bug in the server side and the delta is not longer generated two files with the same path | 10:55 |
| didrocks | mandel_: ok, so if this can work with the server update only, I would prefer that | 10:56 |
| didrocks | mandel_: I assume we'll start doing some more tests soon anyway, will keep you posted | 10:56 |
| mandel_ | didrocks, AFAIK it can, we can double check with barry | 10:56 |
| mandel_ | didrocks, great, let me know.. I'm doing a lot of work to make integration tests easier for u-d-m so we might be able to get things more testable | 10:57 |
| mandel_ | didrocks, one small question, do you know any expert with lcov to give me a hand to add coverage reports for u-d-m? | 10:57 |
| didrocks | mandel_: IIRC, tvoss explored that | 10:58 |
| mandel_ | thx | 10:58 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, ping | 10:58 |
| didrocks | yw ;) | 10:58 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:58 |
| tvoss | mandel_, hey there | 10:58 |
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| mandel_ | tvoss, hello! I was wondering if you could give me a hand with gcovr and lcov | 10:59 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, I'm trying to add reports for u-d-m but I'm getting empty files :-/ | 11:00 |
| tvoss | mandel_, udm? | 11:00 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, sorry, Ubuntu Download Manager (u-d-m) is the daemon that allows to perform long lasting downloads in the phone | 11:02 |
| tvoss | mandel_, ah okay. I assume that you have a cmake setup? | 11:02 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, right now, used by system image upgrades, click packages installation and other few thigs | 11:02 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, well, I have it correctly set up for qmake | 11:02 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, here -> lp:~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/add-coverage | 11:02 |
| tvoss | mandel_, why is that? we have ready-made coverage reporting for cmake available | 11:02 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, because u-d-m was stared with qmake before we started using cmake everywhere | 11:03 |
| tvoss | mandel_, hmmm, would that be a good oppurtunity to switch over to cmake, then? | 11:03 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, and I have not added 'moving to cmake' as one of my priorities right now | 11:03 |
| tvoss | mandel_, moving to cmake would give you the coverage reporting immediately, plus cross-building, once that works flawlessly ootb | 11:04 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, could.. but I'm the only devel in the project and I have lots of bugs to deal with :-/ | 11:04 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, is more of a time issue than anything else | 11:04 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, but I found not related issues to qmake, for example, the lcov version in ubuntu was giving problems | 11:06 |
| oSoMoN | mandel_, pong | 11:06 |
| tvoss | mandel_, okay, what kind of lcov issues were you experiencing? | 11:07 |
| mandel_ | oSoMoN, one question, have you started with the downloading sdk? | 11:07 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, let me find the output, one sec (or a few) | 11:07 |
| oSoMoN | mandel_, nope, afaik the task has been moved to your team, lucky you :) | 11:08 |
| mandel_ | oSoMoN, hahahaha | 11:08 |
| mandel_ | oSoMoN, yes, so I was told, but I wanted to check | 11:09 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, for example => http://paste.ubuntu.com/6405182/ | 11:09 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, that is with lcov in ubuntu, if I do a checkout of lcov and install it the issue is fixed | 11:09 |
| tvoss | interesting, I get the warnings, too, but I have results nevertheless | 11:10 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, might me that I did something in the coverage.pri that is in the project | 11:12 |
| oSoMoN | mandel_, actually, I had started that a while ago: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/downloadmanager | 11:12 |
| DJJeff | will apps like google maps, netflix run on ubuntu touch? | 11:12 |
| oSoMoN | mandel_, it’s only the interfaces as we agreed them, no actual implementation | 11:12 |
| mandel_ | oSoMoN, is a good start nevertheless :) | 11:13 |
| mandel_ | oSoMoN, this is the valid doc, right => https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1fqeIXENmZsY2ziO9_pq3Xt6xVtLVa4xmb009dJxzaQo/edit#heading=h.hvv839nh8gg0 | 11:19 |
| * mandel_ needs to add a url shortening script for his irc client | 11:19 | |
| TechieElf | Hey. Any fellow devs active? | 11:24 |
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| TechieElf | smoku can you help me figure out where I went wrong? I grabbed the source, built it, then flashed the phablet zip, trusty-preinstalled-touch-armf.zip, and ubuntu-boot.img and I'm stuck in a boot loop. | 11:30 |
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| oSoMoN | mandel_, yes | 11:38 |
| mandel_ | oSoMoN, ok, do you mind attending to the vUDS talk about it? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22104/appdev-1311-udm-sdk/ | 11:41 |
| davmor2 | ogra_: just updated to 21 and it installed and didn't kill my phone good start | 11:44 |
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| mandel_ | tvoss, could you also be present here => http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22104/appdev-1311-udm-sdk/ (if possible) | 11:46 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, I'd like to get your input about the lifecycle of apps and how we should deal with them from an SDK point of view | 11:47 |
| tvoss | mandel_, sure | 11:47 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, awesome, thx! | 11:47 |
| davmor2 | seb128: daft question on system settings on maguro it takes an age to change from one view to another is there a reason for that? I don't know if it is the same for the n4 | 11:47 |
| seb128 | davmor2, is that a new issue? and no, we just do standard toolkit use afaik ... is that the only app having that issue? | 11:48 |
| tvoss | mandel_, subscribed to the blueprint | 11:48 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, thx a lot, I'd really appreciate your input regarding the lifecycle because we will be missing dbus signals when the app is paused or killed and I don't really know what is the recommended things to do | 11:49 |
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| tvoss | mandel_, ack, is there a high-level document that explains how things are wired together? | 11:50 |
| davmor2 | seb128: some of the apps have an initial slow start up but I've grown accustomed to that, they work fairly well after. I think it slowed in Trusty I'm pretty sure that the app was snappier in Saucy | 11:50 |
| Guest37186 | hello | 11:50 |
| davmor2 | seb128: latter I'll take a video to show you what I mean | 11:50 |
| seb128 | davmor2, check with the toolkit/mir guys maybe, ubuntu-system-settings didn't change since saucy | 11:50 |
| Guest37186 | how to set audio latency with terminal? | 11:51 |
| Guest37186 | 41k, 4096 on jackd | 11:51 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, I just have a wiki with the dbus API and not a very detail explanation. I'll update the wiki to ad such explanations and will point to the wiki from the blueprint | 11:51 |
| Guest37186 | Cant find a thing | 11:51 |
| tvoss | mandel_, yup, that would be really helpful, thx | 11:51 |
| davmor2 | seb128: will do thanks | 11:51 |
| seb128 | davmor2, yw | 11:51 |
| mandel_ | tvoss, I do have state machine diagrams (need to update those) on the diff states of the downloads, group downloads and the download queue, I'll add those to the wiki too | 11:51 |
| Guest37186 | mandel_ do you know the command? | 11:52 |
| tvoss | mandel_, yeah, whatever you have got :) | 11:52 |
| Guest37186 | to set audio latency with terminal? | 11:52 |
| mandel_ | Guest37186, sorry, no idea | 11:53 |
| Guest37186 | I'm using Jackd but can't find a thing for set Jackd to 41k, 4096 via terminal | 11:53 |
| davmor2 | Guest37186: this is not a help channel, it is developer channel you want to ask on #ubuntu | 11:54 |
| davmor2 | Guest37186: more people there aimed at general help, they should be able to help you. | 11:55 |
| Guest37186 | ok thanks | 11:55 |
| oSoMoN | mandel_, will od | 11:57 |
| oSoMoN | do | 11:57 |
| ogra_ | davmor2, good to hear :) | 11:58 |
| mandel_ | oSoMoN, sweet, I'll try to get some people that I know that are interested to join too | 11:58 |
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| nerochiaro | mzanetti: is the tests inside the same TestCase run in any specific order ? and if there are many TestCase in the same qml file, is the component outisde of the TestCases instantiated many times, one per TestCase run, or just once at startup ? | 13:03 |
| mzanetti | nerochiaro: alphabetical order afaik. it's instantiated once per file | 13:04 |
| nerochiaro | mzanetti: uff, ok, so there's no way to reset things between test, and we need a qml file per test | 13:05 |
| nerochiaro | that's kind of cumbersome | 13:05 |
| mzanetti | nerochiaro: you can use a loader | 13:05 |
| nerochiaro | mzanetti: hmm, clever | 13:05 |
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| cwayne | mzanetti, ping | 14:03 |
| mzanetti | hey chris | 14:03 |
| mzanetti | cwayne: ^ | 14:03 |
| cwayne | hey mzanetti were you looking for me at some point last week? | 14:05 |
| mzanetti | cwayne: ah yeah. saw your post about the fitbit app. as I was hacking on mine anyways (making it work offline) I also added support for badges | 14:07 |
| mzanetti | cwayne: had a question there but figured the solution | 14:07 |
| cwayne | mzanetti, ah, nice! | 14:07 |
| cwayne | mzanetti, i'm not sure i'd ever release mine at this point, was just a way for me to learn qml :) | 14:08 |
| mzanetti | cwayne: yeah. but feel free to contribute to mine. the code is on launchpad. for example feeding the infographics would be nice. | 14:08 |
| cwayne | mzanetti, sure! i'll have to take a look | 14:09 |
| cwayne | the one thing that worries me there is i have 0 c++ experience | 14:09 |
| mzanetti | cwayne: Qt is not C++ | 14:09 |
| mzanetti | well, it is sort of... but makes it much easier | 14:09 |
| mzanetti | give it a try | 14:09 |
| cwayne | will do :) | 14:10 |
| cwayne | dpm, any luck re: evernote account? | 14:14 |
| dpm | hi cwayne, mardy traced it to be https://code.google.com/p/accounts-sso/source/detail?r=8fb9330ec6b5a3b8363d982e85b639e162fa5508&name=empty-secret-token&repo=signon-plugin-oauth2 - the fix is now pending review and merge and then we'll need to package up signon-plugin-oauth2 with the fix | 14:16 |
| cwayne | dpm, nice! | 14:18 |
| cwayne | dpm, ok, so i'll get this account-plugin into a ppa then | 14:18 |
| cwayne | i assume that means there should be no change to the plugin? | 14:18 |
| mardy | kenvandine: can you review this? It's important for evernote: https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/signon-plugin-oauth2/packaging/+merge/195030 | 14:19 |
| dpm | cwayne, awesome, thanks! Not that I know of, other than adding the Evernote icon to it (my .provider file abused the Twitter icon) | 14:19 |
| cwayne | dpm, yep, i've taken care of that :) | 14:20 |
| dpm | great :) | 14:20 |
| kenvandine | mardy, will do | 14:20 |
| cwayne | mardy, will that be SRU'd to saucy? or just go into trusty | 14:22 |
| mardy | cwayne: just trusty, unless someone really needs it on saucy | 14:23 |
| mardy | cwayne: the package dependencies are not changes, so one can install it manually on saucy, if needed | 14:23 |
| cwayne | mardy, awesome, thanks | 14:25 |
| chris_ | hi, does ubuntu on the galaxy nexus currently support nfc via nfc-tools? | 14:31 |
| * ogra_ doesnt think nfc is supported at all yet | 14:32 | |
| ogra_ | we might have a vUDS session for this next week ... tvoss might know | 14:33 |
| tvoss | ogra_, it is not supported yet. not aware of a session. ChickenCutlass, ^ are you aware of any session on nfc support? | 14:33 |
| * ogra_ thought that falls under general sensors support somehow | 14:33 | |
| ChickenCutlass | tvoss, no | 14:34 |
| cwayne | ogra_, hey, are we still waiting on initramfs merges? | 14:34 |
| ogra_ | like compass, magnetometer etc etc | 14:34 |
| tvoss | ogra_, it's not a sensor, more bluetooth-like | 14:34 |
| ogra_ | ah | 14:34 |
| * ogra_ has No F*cking Clue about NFC | 14:35 | |
| ogra_ | :P | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | libhybris has (at least) nxp nfc support | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | you'll need to write the rest of the glue though | 14:35 |
| ogra_ | cwayne, which ones ? | 14:35 |
| ogra_ | we're currently waiting for the CI system to come back after the move | 14:36 |
| ogra_ | (which includes the image testing system too) | 14:36 |
| cwayne | ogra_, specifically this one, it still needs a top-approve (it'd make sense to wait for jenkins then, i'd forgotten about that) https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/ubuntu/trusty/initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch/no-hardcoding-user/+merge/194004 | 14:37 |
| ogra_ | cwayne, ah, yeah i remember this one ... | 14:38 |
| ogra_ | i'll process it as soon as we have some image test results again (iirc i had added a landing plan entry) | 14:38 |
| chris_ | ok, thank you | 14:39 |
| cwayne | ogra_, ah, alright, thanks :) | 14:39 |
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| nerochiaro | mzanetti: is there any way to do >= or <= comparisons in QML unit tests ? | 14:46 |
| mzanetti | nerochiaro: verify() | 14:46 |
| mardy | kenvandine: I updated that MP with the correct version in the changelog | 14:49 |
| nerochiaro | mzanetti: no way to do "eventually" with that, right ? | 14:49 |
| mzanetti | nerochiaro: no | 14:50 |
| cwayne | kalikiana, i tried out tedg's MR to add XDG_DATA_DIR to upstart-app-launch, but still no translations :( | 14:50 |
| nerochiaro | mzanetti: ok thanks | 14:50 |
| mzanetti | nerochiaro: well... there is something | 14:50 |
| mzanetti | nerochiaro: check out unity8. we have a "tryCompareFunction()" | 14:50 |
| mzanetti | nerochiaro: that is somewhat like the lambda + Eventually in AP | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | mardy, thx | 14:51 |
| nerochiaro | mzanetti: that sounds good | 14:51 |
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| tedg | cwayne, ping me if it looks like my issue. I'm sure it's not because the tests pass, but you never know ;-) | 14:55 |
| cwayne | tedg, sure thing :) although i see XDG_DATA_DIRS being set, so I'm sure its another issue | 14:55 |
| cwayne | kalikiana, ^ | 14:57 |
| mardy | kenvandine: did you forget to top-approve, or is there some issue? (I see that jenkins is down?) | 15:03 |
| cjohnston | mardy: the entire lab is still down | 15:03 |
| rickspencer3 | cjohnston, "down" or "in the process of being moved to the data center?" ;) | 15:04 |
| * ogra_ hopes they didnt leave it running while moving ! | 15:04 | |
| cjohnston | both? | 15:04 |
| cjohnston | down because it's in process of being moved | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | mardy, didn't forget, just didn't do it :) | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | mardy, feel free to top-approve | 15:07 |
| mardy | kenvandine: ok :-) | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | i usually don't do that until CI passes, but I guess that isn't happening today :/ | 15:07 |
| firelmnt | why isn't this file (.repo/local_manifests/roomservice.xml) in the repo for building ubuntu-touch? Could someone help? | 15:11 |
| kalikiana | cwayne: how do you test it? I see no .deb files from jenkins there on a quick look; though I'm about to run, I'll be back later | 15:14 |
| cwayne | kalikiana, i pbuilt it and pushed it manually | 15:14 |
| cwayne | kalikiana, it is setting XDG_DATA_DIR, but it's still not translated | 15:14 |
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| mandel_ | vila, ping | 15:29 |
| vila | mandel_: pong but entering a meeting | 15:30 |
| mandel_ | vila, any idea of the state of CI? | 15:30 |
| mandel_ | vila, a monosilable answers is enough :) | 15:30 |
| vila | mandel_: I'm waiting for a mail summary :-/ | 15:31 |
| mandel_ | vics, thx | 15:31 |
| mandel_ | vics, sorry | 15:31 |
| mandel_ | vila, thx | 15:31 |
| cwayne | mardy, so is the merge happening today or are we waiting for jenkins | 15:39 |
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| lool | sergiusens: I guess you cant release music-app without the jenkins that does the builds? | 15:50 |
| sergiusens | lool, I can manually do it; but do we want to? | 15:52 |
| sergiusens | lool, we need to either merge something new or update the version in the manifest (merging something new is in the pipeline) | 15:53 |
| lool | sergiusens: Ok | 15:56 |
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| tvoss | seb128, hey, I'm searching for a high-level document describing the system settings app | 16:23 |
| seb128 | tvoss, hey, I don't think we have one | 16:23 |
| tvoss | seb128, who would be the best person to talk to if I have got specific questions then? | 16:23 |
| seb128 | tvoss, that channel seems about right, what sort of questions? | 16:24 |
| tvoss | seb128, I was more after a person that can walk me through the code and explain common patterns and design decisions to me. Would that be mardy? | 16:24 |
| seb128 | tvoss, Laney, mardy, tedg, kenvandine and I are the most actives on it | 16:24 |
| tvoss | seb128, ack and thx | 16:25 |
| seb128 | tvoss, I doubt there is such things, different panels have been handled by different people | 16:25 |
| seb128 | tvoss, mardy bootstrapped the project but didn't get involved a lot recently | 16:25 |
| cwayne | mterry, ping | 16:25 |
| mterry | cwayne, hello! | 16:25 |
| seb128 | tvoss, the panel are mostly qml UI with cpp backends, some of them who have lot in common with indicators reuse their backend over unitymenumodel | 16:26 |
| ogra_ | seb128, oh, that reminds me ... we'll have a session about developer mode (and UI switch integration of the same in teh settings) should i invite someone of your team to that ? | 16:27 |
| cwayne | mterry, how can i change the language programatically? | 16:27 |
| cwayne | mterry, this is going back to the customizing locale business | 16:27 |
| mterry | cwayne, well... it won't take effect until you reboot, but you could do it with a dbus-send command. Is that good enough? | 16:27 |
| seb128 | ogra_, on what track is that session? I would like to be there, but vUDS sucks for track lead (I need to host sessions on client 1 so I can't join another discussion while hosting, even if I'm not participating in what I host) | 16:28 |
| cwayne | mterry, hm, that's a good start at least | 16:28 |
| ogra_ | seb128, if it ever gets scheduled (hey slangasek) it will be on the core track | 16:28 |
| seb128 | ogra_, ok, if it's not client 1 I can't easily come, maybe Laney would be interested to represent us? | 16:29 |
| Laney | could do | 16:29 |
| Laney | we'll need a designer though | 16:30 |
| ogra_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-complete-developer-mode-integration | 16:30 |
| Laney | s/designer/design/ | 16:30 |
| ogra_ | thats the blueprint | 16:30 |
| mterry | cwayne, dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.Accounts /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User32011 org.freedesktop.Accounts.User.SetLanguage string:en | 16:31 |
| cwayne | mterry, thanks. so is there any possible way to preseed it so that a reboot isn't necessary? | 16:32 |
| slangasek | ogra_: which session? | 16:32 |
| mterry | cwayne, oh well then you could just change the system language... let me see | 16:32 |
| mterry | cwayne, that's in /etc/default/locale | 16:33 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, three actually, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-complete-developer-mode-integration https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-early-boot-animation and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-low-battery-boot-mode | 16:33 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, all for the core track | 16:33 |
| cwayne | mterry, and thats in writable-paths? | 16:33 |
| mterry | cwayne, don't know | 16:34 |
| mterry | cwayne, if it's not, you can drop a file in /var/lib/AccountsService/user/phablet with the key set for the use | 16:34 |
| mterry | r | 16:34 |
| mterry | cwayne, see current file for format | 16:34 |
| slangasek | ogra_: ok, I think I have them scheduled in a reasonably conflict-free manner | 16:34 |
| mterry | cwayne, you would want to set the Language key | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, thanks a lot ! | 16:34 |
| cwayne | mterry, ah, perfect | 16:35 |
| cwayne | mterry, what if i did that dbus-send before unity starts? would it still need a reboot? | 16:35 |
| mterry | cwayne, you'd really have to do it before lightdm starts, but no, it wouldn't need a reboot | 16:35 |
| cwayne | mterry, ah, great, i'll play around with that then | 16:36 |
| rsalveti | slangasek: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-touch-emulator | 16:36 |
| cwayne | mterry, perhaps i'll just do it as an upstart job before lightdm/unity8 start | 16:36 |
| cwayne | mterry, would that be 'the right way to do it'? | 16:37 |
| mterry | cwayne, I guess?.. It sounds like setting /etc/defaults/locale would be best. But I guess if that's readonly, that's a nonstarter, unless you want to poke a hole for it | 16:38 |
| mterry | cwayne, you can't spin a new image for what you're doing? | 16:39 |
| cwayne | mterry, i can spin the custom bits | 16:39 |
| mterry | cwayne, well then you could edit that file, eh? | 16:39 |
| ogra_ | mterry, i thought the locales are set in ~/.pam-environment (iirc seb128 mentioned that) | 16:39 |
| seb128 | ogra_, they are | 16:39 |
| seb128 | ogra_, well for the user at least | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | so i guess updating it there should work | 16:40 |
| mterry | seb128, what about AccountsService's Language key? | 16:40 |
| cwayne | mterry, we don't have a mechanism to copy stuff to /etc atm though | 16:40 |
| cwayne | we do have a mechanism to copy to ~ | 16:40 |
| cwayne | and we can edit other stuff by doing upstart jobs i suppose | 16:40 |
| seb128 | mterry, we go through accountsservice's dbus method to write the config so I guess that has a correct value? | 16:41 |
| seb128 | mterry, but pam doesn't use AS | 16:41 |
| seb128 | mterry, do the way it's applied to the sessions is through pam/.pam_environment, which works for text login etc as well | 16:41 |
| mterry | seb128, ogra_: ah yeah, AS just sets .pam_environment | 16:42 |
| mterry | cwayne, so that would be another option for you ^ | 16:42 |
| cwayne | mterry, ok, i'm just trying to figure out which one is the generally preferred way | 16:43 |
| cwayne | or 'the right way' :) | 16:43 |
| mterry | cwayne, AS is an abstraction layer for .pam_environment in this case. Either way is fine | 16:43 |
| mterry | cwayne, it *sounds* like you already have easy way to preseed ~ files, so maybe .pam_environment is best for you | 16:44 |
| cwayne | we have an easy way, but it's generally considered the 'hackier' way to do it tbh | 16:46 |
| cwayne | mterry, i'll play around with an upstart job and see what works best | 16:46 |
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| cwayne | Cimi, ping | 17:05 |
| davmor2 | hey guys if you turn bluetooth off an come back to your phone in an hour is it turned back on? | 17:16 |
| * ogra_ hasnt checked that, but i know it gets turned on after reboot | 17:19 | |
| didrocks | mhall119: not sure youmissed my ping from yesterday, but I think I asked you to move the CI Airline discussion on Tuesday to 4PM | 17:23 |
| janimo | ogra_, rsalveti should we have a vUDS session dedicated fully to x86 images? Some will be touched in the Qt session but we'd need one for most of the rest of the work items | 17:24 |
| didrocks | mhall119: and as well, you didn't move the "make click apps runnable from the unity7 dash" in the client2 track | 17:25 |
| rsalveti | janimo: we could probably have one, might be useful indeed | 17:25 |
| rsalveti | janimo: mind leading it? | 17:25 |
| sanyo_steve | OT: The Edge ; she lives !! For Ebay tells me so ... http://r.ebay.com/2O1dPH Ghehe . | 17:25 |
| cwayne | kenvandine, is there a session for account plugins as clicks (mainly how to deal with dependencies etc)? | 17:25 |
| kenvandine | cwayne, not that i know of | 17:25 |
| ogra_ | janimo, seems to make sense to me ... though i guess most bits we will hit are not really predictable | 17:26 |
| ogra_ | but we should at least list the obvious bits | 17:27 |
| rsalveti | janimo: and creating support for the x86 emulator might be the easier way to go | 17:27 |
| rsalveti | unless we have a device in hands :-) | 17:27 |
| cwayne | kenvandine, would it make sense to have one? or is it not quite worth it | 17:28 |
| kenvandine | it might already be well defined, not sure | 17:28 |
| kenvandine | mardy, ^^ | 17:28 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: I'm more concerned about the gl x gles issue | 17:29 |
| ogra_ | ++ | 17:29 |
| cwayne | i know the click hooks themselves will be easy enough, just didn't know about dependencies, etc | 17:29 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, but that will likely be covered in the Qt session | 17:29 |
| rsalveti | yeah | 17:29 |
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| mardy | cwayne, kenvandine: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1311-online-accounts | 17:41 |
| mardy | at least partially :-) | 17:41 |
| janimo | rsalveti, ogra I'll se about setting something up | 17:41 |
| ogra_ | thx | 17:41 |
| cwayne | mardy, awesome thanks :) | 17:41 |
| janimo | rsalveti, even with the emulator we'd still need the images being built. That is the main blocker IMHO from an infrastructure PoV as it is not really doable by most people | 17:42 |
| janimo | unlike the various x86 specific bugfixes across android and packages that may come up | 17:42 |
| rsalveti | right, indeed | 17:45 |
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| * janimo registered a blueprint then was lead elsewhere by launchpad. Needs to find it now | 17:52 | |
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| janimo | ogra_, rsalveti this is the meeting URL but I can't seem to be able to register a blueprint | 18:07 |
| janimo | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22114/ubuntu-touch-for-x86/ | 18:07 |
| cwayne | tedg, hey, your MR for upstart-app-launch will add the app dir to the XDG_DATA_DIRS right? as in, it doesn't overwrite it to *just* include the app_dir? | 18:11 |
| inblueswithu | Hi, I read ubuntu only officially support nexus devices. Can i install ubuntu on my android device like sony mobile ? If so, what problems are likely? | 18:25 |
| ogra_ | inblueswithu, there are some community ports, see the devices wikipage (though they are usually a bit behind in features and function) | 18:31 |
| ogra_ | !devices | inblueswithu | 18:32 |
| ubot5 | inblueswithu: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 18:32 |
| inblueswithu | ubot5: ogra_: thankyou :) I'll look into it | 18:32 |
| ubot5 | inblueswithu: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 18:32 |
| ogra_ | :) | 18:32 |
| ogra_ | silly bot | 18:32 |
| inblueswithu | ya.. :P silly thing | 18:33 |
| inblueswithu | but it got me correctly | 18:33 |
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| Jsanchez | Hello everyone, I'm wondering what's the status on ubuntu touch on galaxy S4 besides the few posts on forums, Can my device be a test subject, can I help in anyway? | 18:58 |
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| beuno | Jsanchez, there is no official support for the device | 19:01 |
| beuno | nor is there any planned | 19:01 |
| beuno | so whatever people are doing in the forums, that would be it :) | 19:02 |
| Jsanchez | beuno, that's a bummer, I have this good piece of hardware with shitty OS, *snif* | 19:02 |
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| TechieElf | Any fellow devs active? | 19:32 |
| TechieElf | Hashcode, o great one, I have an issue with the Xt907 port. Can you help me? | 19:42 |
| TechieElf | Any devs? | 19:51 |
| TechieElf | xnox can you help me possibly? | 20:00 |
| xnox | TechieElf: i advise you to send your queries to ubuntu-phone mailing list, such that everyone can answer them, no matter which timezone they are in. | 20:01 |
| xnox | TechieElf: only a fraction of people idle here on IRC. | 20:01 |
| TechieElf | xnox: I understand that and I will try that approach. Thank you. | 20:02 |
| bfiller | kenvandine: where is best place to find qml api for content-hub? | 20:14 |
| kenvandine | http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/Ubuntu.Content/ | 20:15 |
| kenvandine | bfiller, ^^ | 20:15 |
| bfiller | kenvandine: awesome thanks | 20:15 |
| kenvandine | np | 20:15 |
| mostkaj | Hi all. Has anyone tried ubuntu on nexus 5 ? | 20:18 |
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| genii | TechieElf: Did you check to see if your issue on the page of known problems already? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/xt907 | 20:30 |
| AskUbuntu | Why I do not find any tutorail for Scope and Python for Ubuntu 13.10 | http://askubuntu.com/q/376633 | 20:55 |
| mostkaj | Its posible to install ubuntu touch on nexus 5? | 20:56 |
| mostkaj | its possible to install ubuntu touch on nexus 5 ? | 20:59 |
| beuno | mostkaj, not currently supported, no | 20:59 |
| sergiusens | mostkaj, wait for it | 21:06 |
| sergiusens | mostkaj, it's coming for this cycle most likely | 21:08 |
| Tassadar | it is?! | 21:09 |
| ogra_ | pretty likely, yes | 21:09 |
| ogra_ | no final word yet though | 21:09 |
| Tassadar | yaay) | 21:09 |
| ogra_ | and a lot of work ... since we need to move to android 4.4 | 21:10 |
| Tassadar | yeah, I didn't expect you to do that Oo | 21:10 |
| Tassadar | (and that means flo will get at least unofficial ports, too, nice) | 21:10 |
| sergiusens | Tassadar, it's sort of required for newer hw; so we are aiming for it | 21:11 |
| Tassadar | well, that's one decision done, i'm getting N5 and not n4 ^^ | 21:12 |
| balloons | sergiusens, https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/music-app/fix-shuffle-test/+merge/195129 | 21:13 |
| sergiusens | balloons, works without the qml changes as well? | 21:14 |
| balloons | sergiusens, no I grabbed his changes.. I just started playing with the branch and upped the failure count on it.. it ran fine out of the box on my nexus doing that, so I pushed it and jenkins was ok with it also | 21:15 |
| balloons | that is the only difference between brancges | 21:15 |
| balloons | I don't like how they implemented shuffle | 21:16 |
| sergiusens | balloons, doh, saw the qml and thought it was python code :-/ | 21:16 |
| sergiusens | :-) | 21:16 |
| sergiusens | balloons, I haven't seen it tbh | 21:17 |
| AskUbuntu | Huawei E173 modem always need a restart to get detected | http://askubuntu.com/q/376649 | 21:45 |
| virtual-liquid | hello | 22:28 |
| virtual-liquid | anyone there ? | 22:28 |
| popey | yes virtual-liquid | 22:29 |
| virtual-liquid | I was in hopes, that someone here could guide me in the direction of downloading the ubuntu touch distro for my x86 ibm thinkpad x200 tablet.... :/ | 22:30 |
| virtual-liquid | Or what other good tablet / touch distros would be to try? | 22:31 |
| popey | We haven't made a version of touch specifically for x86 tablets, but if you install ubuntu, you can try out unity 8 I believe. | 22:31 |
| virtual-liquid | hmm, ok ill check it out now . | 22:31 |
| virtual-liquid | Unity 8 work with 64 bit version? | 22:33 |
| popey | virtual-liquid: yes, but I haven't tested it myself on x86_64 | 22:35 |
| virtual-liquid | thanks, watching a video on unity 8 now, looks good. downloading 13.10 to install.. :) | 22:35 |
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| Gallomimia | ah, finally got my irc working again! | 23:30 |
| Gallomimia | i'm having some trouble trying to flash this unsupported tablet i have. so far all i know is that adb devices gives: ????????????no permissions | 23:31 |
| xnox | Gallomimia: try $ sudo adb devices | 23:35 |
| Gallomimia | yes i did that, same result | 23:35 |
| Gallomimia | who the hell made this? uh.... it just says D2pad "internet tablet" | 23:38 |
| Gallomimia | anyway, this is a really neat tablet, but the software that's on it runs worse than a brick. therefore, i shall get ubuntu to run on it for the benefit of myself and others. period | 23:42 |
| TechieElf | Hello guys, I'm back to nag some more :P | 23:46 |
| cwayne | \o/ translated click apps | 23:50 |
| Gallomimia | alright so google has helped me figure out that i should look for a vendor ID for this device. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640158 any ideas how to find it? | 23:53 |
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