[00:00] why would you wand libhybris on a desktop? [00:00] Even if I include the "/usr/include" folder, it still doesn't work, it wants a file called android-version.h or something [00:01] I'm on an Arm PC at the moment [00:01] with an SGX 544 graphics card [00:01] That's why I need libhybris [00:04] oh [00:04] so I guess you need to pull the android source for your PC, to get that [00:05] you can do that on an intel PC wit a bigger hdd [00:08] smoku: just for headers? [00:08] do I need more than just headers for libhybris? [00:09] smoku I'm clueless on how to build from the source. The instructions in the readme only show how to get the source [00:09] Nothing_Much, I would check how Mer guys are building it [00:10] it's only for the cubiboard... [00:11] TechieElf, follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting [00:12] Nothing_Much, the procedure for your board should be similar [00:12] yeah but [00:13] where are the android headers that don't take up all of my freaking hdd space???? [00:13] I used that repo init script [00:13] and it downloads ALL OF THE PROJECTS [00:13] I ONLY NEED 4.2.1_R1 [00:14] Sheesh, I've been at this for freaking days [00:14] no need to shout [00:14] https://android.googlesource.com/platform/hardware/libhardware/ [00:18] oh my god it still doesn't work [00:18] now it's asking for manifest files [00:18] I need step by step instructions just to get these damn headers [00:18] pardon my language [00:19] smoku: "make: *** No rule to make target `/home/techieelf/xt907_phablet/out/host/linux-x86/bin/bsdiff', needed by `/home/techieelf/xt907_phablet/out/target/product/xt907/cm_xt907-ota-eng.techieelf.zip'. Stop." Something went wrong when building? [00:21] TechieElf, or the repo for xt907 is not compatible with trusty-phablet anymore [00:22] What can I do? [00:22] TechieElf, fix it :) [00:22] How? :P [00:26] smoku.. when you say not compatible.. what exactly do you mean? [00:28] TechieElf, requires files which current build does not provide [00:29] smoku: As in android propietary blobs? [00:29] bsdiff does not sound like proprietary ;-) [00:30] smoku: I have no clue what half of these things are yet.. explain? :3 [00:32] TechieElf, I don't have time for crash course. but I will answer specific questions when you have ones === Guest12534 is now known as jacky === jacky is now known as jalcine [00:44] smoku: I grabbed bsdiff's source and plopped it in where it was needed. Hope that was correct. === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo [01:15] any helpful tips for installing touch on a motorola xoom? [01:21] smoku the build finished. Can you explain what the different files that were outputted are for? === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam === _salem is now known as salem_ [02:22] Any devs still active? === salem_ is now known as _salem === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [02:49] Welcome back, Nothing_Much [03:15] Hashcode, you available for a moment? I've built the xt907 phablet zip and flashed it along with the trusty fs, and flashed the ubuntu-boot.img. I'm stuck in a boot loop. Ideas? === LarrySteeze is now known as LarrySteeze|Away [04:13] Install Ubuntu SDK in Pear OS 8 | http://askubuntu.com/q/376288 [05:06] does ubuntu touch have that desktop mode yet? [05:10] You can run X11 over HDMI, yes [05:14] Wait, what? Really? [05:15] Ubuntu Touch REQUIRES VT support, required to run X, and it happens to include X as well, since Ubuntu touch at it's core is Android Linux you can change the framebuffer for X to the MHL port [05:16] I guess you can use fbdev there. I didn't know we shipped /usr/bin/Xorg [05:17] my builds for Motorola Defy at least ship with X [05:17] I wanted to add VT support to my HTC Ville (One S) but I don't know how to do kernel debugging === duflu_ is now known as duflu [05:22] but yeah, I'm sure most of "Ubuntu for Android" is based on just chrooted ubuntu with a kernel with VT support, but canonical has stopped doing open development because they want to license it to companies [05:26] SamZaNemesis: I thought ubuntu for android was a different project [05:29] Yeah, 'tis. [06:10] Ubuntu for android is a different project [06:24] hello [06:25] anyone can help me with some problem [06:57] how do i start building image for new device? (crespo) all "read me"s seems to be outdated [06:58] good morning [06:58] good evening === iahmad_ is now known as iahmad|afk === iahmad|afk is now known as iahmad [08:47] hi === fmasi_afk is now known as fmasi === tvoss is now known as tvoss|test === tvoss|test is now known as tvoss [09:58] Good morning all; happy World Kindness Day! :-D [10:27] hi jos [10:27] next time ask me if you want a PM [10:27] it's like walking into my house and borrowing a pen and I don't know who you are [10:28] jos: stop PMing me in private [10:32] jalcine: maybe he wants some sexy text action [10:32] unpopsicle: lol well I'm not down [10:45] oSoMoN, ping [10:45] mandel_, hey, you pinged yesterday [10:46] ogra_, yes, I had a fix for u-d-m about that upgrade bug, I wondered if you could test it in a device but ti looks like it was also fixed in the server side and in the s-i client side [10:46] ogra_, we hit 3 bugs at once... impressive [10:46] heh, yeah [10:46] well, vila still had some probs today [10:47] ogra_, yeah, I read the bug, I had not deployed my fix (PS Jenkins is down and I'm waiting on that) [10:47] (he was stuck on 17 and didnt get an update provided by the UZI but s-i-c worked) [10:47] *UI [10:47] yup, i know ... [10:47] ogra_, the issue with the progress bar is that the progress is calculated based on the number of files.. so when I get to same local paths I'm writing to the same path and that makes the progress funky [10:48] right ... well, if there is a fix we're all fine ... [10:48] (once CI is back) [10:48] ogra_, I've fixed that but nevertheless I've greatly improve u-d-m (going to sound like a project manager) and removed a lot of tech debt [10:48] :) [10:48] ogra_, fixes are in trunk and in a saucy branch I have to minimize the diff in saucy [10:50] mandel_: ha, progress bar issues make sense then, duplicate files issues are fixed right ? (But not yet available IIUC) [10:51] vila, yes, it is fixed but not available [10:51] great [10:51] vila, once CI is fixed we will land it [10:52] didrocks, ping [10:52] mandel_: still waiting for feedback on whether CI is plugged (power and network) again, *then* we can start making sure the engine is functional (IP -> name migration) [10:52] hey mandel_ [10:52] didrocks, hello! [10:53] didrocks, I'm wondering, I have a fix that was hitting us with u-d-m and si to be landed in lp:ubuntu-download-manager/saucy (and trunk) [10:53] didrocks, could we land the one in the saucy branch as soon as CI is back? [10:53] mandel_: no, apart from really critical fix, we don't land anything else in saucy [10:53] as told in many emails :) [10:54] we don't support the saucy build, people in less than a week will migrate to trusty on the stable channel [10:54] didrocks, it is a critical bug, stops you from upgrading :) [10:54] didrocks, but we can ignore it, as you wish [10:54] mandel_: will people on image 100 won't be able to upgrade on image 20? [10:55] didrocks, it is related with the delta, to be honest I think that they also fixed the bug in the server side and the delta is not longer generated two files with the same path [10:56] mandel_: ok, so if this can work with the server update only, I would prefer that [10:56] mandel_: I assume we'll start doing some more tests soon anyway, will keep you posted [10:56] didrocks, AFAIK it can, we can double check with barry [10:57] didrocks, great, let me know.. I'm doing a lot of work to make integration tests easier for u-d-m so we might be able to get things more testable [10:57] didrocks, one small question, do you know any expert with lcov to give me a hand to add coverage reports for u-d-m? [10:58] mandel_: IIRC, tvoss explored that [10:58] thx [10:58] tvoss, ping [10:58] yw ;) [10:58] Morning all [10:58] mandel_, hey there === _salem is now known as salem_ [10:59] tvoss, hello! I was wondering if you could give me a hand with gcovr and lcov [11:00] tvoss, I'm trying to add reports for u-d-m but I'm getting empty files :-/ [11:00] mandel_, udm? [11:02] tvoss, sorry, Ubuntu Download Manager (u-d-m) is the daemon that allows to perform long lasting downloads in the phone [11:02] mandel_, ah okay. I assume that you have a cmake setup? [11:02] tvoss, right now, used by system image upgrades, click packages installation and other few thigs [11:02] tvoss, well, I have it correctly set up for qmake [11:02] tvoss, here -> lp:~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/add-coverage [11:02] mandel_, why is that? we have ready-made coverage reporting for cmake available [11:03] tvoss, because u-d-m was stared with qmake before we started using cmake everywhere [11:03] mandel_, hmmm, would that be a good oppurtunity to switch over to cmake, then? [11:03] tvoss, and I have not added 'moving to cmake' as one of my priorities right now [11:04] mandel_, moving to cmake would give you the coverage reporting immediately, plus cross-building, once that works flawlessly ootb [11:04] tvoss, could.. but I'm the only devel in the project and I have lots of bugs to deal with :-/ [11:04] tvoss, is more of a time issue than anything else [11:06] tvoss, but I found not related issues to qmake, for example, the lcov version in ubuntu was giving problems [11:06] mandel_, pong [11:07] mandel_, okay, what kind of lcov issues were you experiencing? [11:07] oSoMoN, one question, have you started with the downloading sdk? [11:07] tvoss, let me find the output, one sec (or a few) [11:08] mandel_, nope, afaik the task has been moved to your team, lucky you :) [11:08] oSoMoN, hahahaha [11:09] oSoMoN, yes, so I was told, but I wanted to check [11:09] tvoss, for example => http://paste.ubuntu.com/6405182/ [11:09] tvoss, that is with lcov in ubuntu, if I do a checkout of lcov and install it the issue is fixed [11:10] interesting, I get the warnings, too, but I have results nevertheless [11:12] tvoss, might me that I did something in the coverage.pri that is in the project [11:12] mandel_, actually, I had started that a while ago: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/downloadmanager [11:12] will apps like google maps, netflix run on ubuntu touch? [11:12] mandel_, it’s only the interfaces as we agreed them, no actual implementation [11:13] oSoMoN, is a good start nevertheless :) [11:19] oSoMoN, this is the valid doc, right => https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1fqeIXENmZsY2ziO9_pq3Xt6xVtLVa4xmb009dJxzaQo/edit#heading=h.hvv839nh8gg0 [11:19] * mandel_ needs to add a url shortening script for his irc client [11:24] Hey. Any fellow devs active? === gatox is now known as gatox_brb [11:30] smoku can you help me figure out where I went wrong? I grabbed the source, built it, then flashed the phablet zip, trusty-preinstalled-touch-armf.zip, and ubuntu-boot.img and I'm stuck in a boot loop. === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [11:38] mandel_, yes [11:41] oSoMoN, ok, do you mind attending to the vUDS talk about it? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22104/appdev-1311-udm-sdk/ [11:44] ogra_: just updated to 21 and it installed and didn't kill my phone good start === gatox_brb is now known as gatox [11:46] tvoss, could you also be present here => http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22104/appdev-1311-udm-sdk/ (if possible) [11:47] tvoss, I'd like to get your input about the lifecycle of apps and how we should deal with them from an SDK point of view [11:47] mandel_, sure [11:47] tvoss, awesome, thx! [11:47] seb128: daft question on system settings on maguro it takes an age to change from one view to another is there a reason for that? I don't know if it is the same for the n4 [11:48] davmor2, is that a new issue? and no, we just do standard toolkit use afaik ... is that the only app having that issue? [11:48] mandel_, subscribed to the blueprint [11:49] tvoss, thx a lot, I'd really appreciate your input regarding the lifecycle because we will be missing dbus signals when the app is paused or killed and I don't really know what is the recommended things to do === b is now known as Guest37186 [11:50] mandel_, ack, is there a high-level document that explains how things are wired together? [11:50] seb128: some of the apps have an initial slow start up but I've grown accustomed to that, they work fairly well after. I think it slowed in Trusty I'm pretty sure that the app was snappier in Saucy [11:50] hello [11:50] seb128: latter I'll take a video to show you what I mean [11:50] davmor2, check with the toolkit/mir guys maybe, ubuntu-system-settings didn't change since saucy [11:51] how to set audio latency with terminal? [11:51] 41k, 4096 on jackd [11:51] tvoss, I just have a wiki with the dbus API and not a very detail explanation. I'll update the wiki to ad such explanations and will point to the wiki from the blueprint [11:51] Cant find a thing [11:51] mandel_, yup, that would be really helpful, thx [11:51] seb128: will do thanks [11:51] davmor2, yw [11:51] tvoss, I do have state machine diagrams (need to update those) on the diff states of the downloads, group downloads and the download queue, I'll add those to the wiki too [11:52] mandel_ do you know the command? [11:52] mandel_, yeah, whatever you have got :) [11:52] to set audio latency with terminal? [11:53] Guest37186, sorry, no idea [11:53] I'm using Jackd but can't find a thing for set Jackd to 41k, 4096 via terminal [11:54] Guest37186: this is not a help channel, it is developer channel you want to ask on #ubuntu [11:55] Guest37186: more people there aimed at general help, they should be able to help you. [11:55] ok thanks [11:57] mandel_, will od [11:57] do [11:58] davmor2, good to hear :) [11:58] oSoMoN, sweet, I'll try to get some people that I know that are interested to join too === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === fmasi is now known as fmasi_afk === pitti is now known as sabdfl === sabdfl is now known as pitti [13:03] mzanetti: is the tests inside the same TestCase run in any specific order ? and if there are many TestCase in the same qml file, is the component outisde of the TestCases instantiated many times, one per TestCase run, or just once at startup ? [13:04] nerochiaro: alphabetical order afaik. it's instantiated once per file [13:05] mzanetti: uff, ok, so there's no way to reset things between test, and we need a qml file per test [13:05] that's kind of cumbersome [13:05] nerochiaro: you can use a loader [13:05] mzanetti: hmm, clever === b0bben_ is now known as b0bben === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === fmasi_afk is now known as fmasi [14:03] mzanetti, ping [14:03] hey chris [14:03] cwayne: ^ [14:05] hey mzanetti were you looking for me at some point last week? [14:07] cwayne: ah yeah. saw your post about the fitbit app. as I was hacking on mine anyways (making it work offline) I also added support for badges [14:07] cwayne: had a question there but figured the solution [14:07] mzanetti, ah, nice! [14:08] mzanetti, i'm not sure i'd ever release mine at this point, was just a way for me to learn qml :) [14:08] cwayne: yeah. but feel free to contribute to mine. the code is on launchpad. for example feeding the infographics would be nice. [14:09] mzanetti, sure! i'll have to take a look [14:09] the one thing that worries me there is i have 0 c++ experience [14:09] cwayne: Qt is not C++ [14:09] well, it is sort of... but makes it much easier [14:09] give it a try [14:10] will do :) [14:14] dpm, any luck re: evernote account? [14:16] hi cwayne, mardy traced it to be https://code.google.com/p/accounts-sso/source/detail?r=8fb9330ec6b5a3b8363d982e85b639e162fa5508&name=empty-secret-token&repo=signon-plugin-oauth2 - the fix is now pending review and merge and then we'll need to package up signon-plugin-oauth2 with the fix [14:18] dpm, nice! [14:18] dpm, ok, so i'll get this account-plugin into a ppa then [14:18] i assume that means there should be no change to the plugin? [14:19] kenvandine: can you review this? It's important for evernote: https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/signon-plugin-oauth2/packaging/+merge/195030 [14:19] cwayne, awesome, thanks! Not that I know of, other than adding the Evernote icon to it (my .provider file abused the Twitter icon) [14:20] dpm, yep, i've taken care of that :) [14:20] great :) [14:20] mardy, will do [14:22] mardy, will that be SRU'd to saucy? or just go into trusty [14:23] cwayne: just trusty, unless someone really needs it on saucy [14:23] cwayne: the package dependencies are not changes, so one can install it manually on saucy, if needed [14:25] mardy, awesome, thanks [14:31] hi, does ubuntu on the galaxy nexus currently support nfc via nfc-tools? [14:32] * ogra_ doesnt think nfc is supported at all yet [14:33] we might have a vUDS session for this next week ... tvoss might know [14:33] ogra_, it is not supported yet. not aware of a session. ChickenCutlass, ^ are you aware of any session on nfc support? [14:33] * ogra_ thought that falls under general sensors support somehow [14:34] tvoss, no [14:34] ogra_, hey, are we still waiting on initramfs merges? [14:34] like compass, magnetometer etc etc [14:34] ogra_, it's not a sensor, more bluetooth-like [14:34] ah [14:35] * ogra_ has No F*cking Clue about NFC [14:35] :P [14:35] libhybris has (at least) nxp nfc support [14:35] you'll need to write the rest of the glue though [14:35] cwayne, which ones ? [14:36] we're currently waiting for the CI system to come back after the move [14:36] (which includes the image testing system too) [14:37] ogra_, specifically this one, it still needs a top-approve (it'd make sense to wait for jenkins then, i'd forgotten about that) https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/ubuntu/trusty/initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch/no-hardcoding-user/+merge/194004 [14:38] cwayne, ah, yeah i remember this one ... [14:38] i'll process it as soon as we have some image test results again (iirc i had added a landing plan entry) [14:39] ok, thank you [14:39] ogra_, ah, alright, thanks :) === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afkl === dandrader|afkl is now known as dandrader|afk === greyback is now known as greyback|away [14:46] mzanetti: is there any way to do >= or <= comparisons in QML unit tests ? [14:46] nerochiaro: verify() [14:49] kenvandine: I updated that MP with the correct version in the changelog [14:49] mzanetti: no way to do "eventually" with that, right ? [14:50] nerochiaro: no [14:50] kalikiana, i tried out tedg's MR to add XDG_DATA_DIR to upstart-app-launch, but still no translations :( [14:50] mzanetti: ok thanks [14:50] nerochiaro: well... there is something [14:50] nerochiaro: check out unity8. we have a "tryCompareFunction()" [14:51] nerochiaro: that is somewhat like the lambda + Eventually in AP [14:51] mardy, thx [14:51] mzanetti: that sounds good === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [14:55] cwayne, ping me if it looks like my issue. I'm sure it's not because the tests pass, but you never know ;-) [14:55] tedg, sure thing :) although i see XDG_DATA_DIRS being set, so I'm sure its another issue [14:57] kalikiana, ^ [15:03] kenvandine: did you forget to top-approve, or is there some issue? (I see that jenkins is down?) [15:03] mardy: the entire lab is still down [15:04] cjohnston, "down" or "in the process of being moved to the data center?" ;) [15:04] * ogra_ hopes they didnt leave it running while moving ! [15:04] both? [15:05] down because it's in process of being moved [15:06] mardy, didn't forget, just didn't do it :) [15:07] mardy, feel free to top-approve [15:07] kenvandine: ok :-) [15:07] i usually don't do that until CI passes, but I guess that isn't happening today :/ [15:11] why isn't this file (.repo/local_manifests/roomservice.xml) in the repo for building ubuntu-touch? Could someone help? [15:14] cwayne: how do you test it? I see no .deb files from jenkins there on a quick look; though I'm about to run, I'll be back later [15:14] kalikiana, i pbuilt it and pushed it manually [15:14] kalikiana, it is setting XDG_DATA_DIR, but it's still not translated === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === soul is now known as Guest74573 === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:29] vila, ping [15:30] mandel_: pong but entering a meeting [15:30] vila, any idea of the state of CI? [15:30] vila, a monosilable answers is enough :) [15:31] mandel_: I'm waiting for a mail summary :-/ [15:31] vics, thx [15:31] vics, sorry [15:31] vila, thx [15:39] mardy, so is the merge happening today or are we waiting for jenkins === greyback|away is now known as greyback [15:50] sergiusens: I guess you cant release music-app without the jenkins that does the builds? [15:52] lool, I can manually do it; but do we want to? [15:53] lool, we need to either merge something new or update the version in the manifest (merging something new is in the pipeline) [15:56] sergiusens: Ok === gustavold1 is now known as gustavold [16:23] seb128, hey, I'm searching for a high-level document describing the system settings app [16:23] tvoss, hey, I don't think we have one [16:23] seb128, who would be the best person to talk to if I have got specific questions then? [16:24] tvoss, that channel seems about right, what sort of questions? [16:24] seb128, I was more after a person that can walk me through the code and explain common patterns and design decisions to me. Would that be mardy? [16:24] tvoss, Laney, mardy, tedg, kenvandine and I are the most actives on it [16:25] seb128, ack and thx [16:25] tvoss, I doubt there is such things, different panels have been handled by different people [16:25] tvoss, mardy bootstrapped the project but didn't get involved a lot recently [16:25] mterry, ping [16:25] cwayne, hello! [16:26] tvoss, the panel are mostly qml UI with cpp backends, some of them who have lot in common with indicators reuse their backend over unitymenumodel [16:27] seb128, oh, that reminds me ... we'll have a session about developer mode (and UI switch integration of the same in teh settings) should i invite someone of your team to that ? [16:27] mterry, how can i change the language programatically? [16:27] mterry, this is going back to the customizing locale business [16:27] cwayne, well... it won't take effect until you reboot, but you could do it with a dbus-send command. Is that good enough? [16:28] ogra_, on what track is that session? I would like to be there, but vUDS sucks for track lead (I need to host sessions on client 1 so I can't join another discussion while hosting, even if I'm not participating in what I host) [16:28] mterry, hm, that's a good start at least [16:28] seb128, if it ever gets scheduled (hey slangasek) it will be on the core track [16:29] ogra_, ok, if it's not client 1 I can't easily come, maybe Laney would be interested to represent us? [16:29] could do [16:30] we'll need a designer though [16:30] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-complete-developer-mode-integration [16:30] s/designer/design/ [16:30] thats the blueprint [16:31] cwayne, dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.Accounts /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User32011 org.freedesktop.Accounts.User.SetLanguage string:en [16:32] mterry, thanks. so is there any possible way to preseed it so that a reboot isn't necessary? [16:32] ogra_: which session? [16:32] cwayne, oh well then you could just change the system language... let me see [16:33] cwayne, that's in /etc/default/locale [16:33] slangasek, three actually, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-complete-developer-mode-integration https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-early-boot-animation and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-low-battery-boot-mode [16:33] slangasek, all for the core track [16:33] mterry, and thats in writable-paths? [16:34] cwayne, don't know [16:34] cwayne, if it's not, you can drop a file in /var/lib/AccountsService/user/phablet with the key set for the use [16:34] r [16:34] cwayne, see current file for format [16:34] ogra_: ok, I think I have them scheduled in a reasonably conflict-free manner [16:34] cwayne, you would want to set the Language key [16:34] slangasek, thanks a lot ! [16:35] mterry, ah, perfect [16:35] mterry, what if i did that dbus-send before unity starts? would it still need a reboot? [16:35] cwayne, you'd really have to do it before lightdm starts, but no, it wouldn't need a reboot [16:36] mterry, ah, great, i'll play around with that then [16:36] slangasek: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-touch-emulator [16:36] mterry, perhaps i'll just do it as an upstart job before lightdm/unity8 start [16:37] mterry, would that be 'the right way to do it'? [16:38] cwayne, I guess?.. It sounds like setting /etc/defaults/locale would be best. But I guess if that's readonly, that's a nonstarter, unless you want to poke a hole for it [16:39] cwayne, you can't spin a new image for what you're doing? [16:39] mterry, i can spin the custom bits [16:39] cwayne, well then you could edit that file, eh? [16:39] mterry, i thought the locales are set in ~/.pam-environment (iirc seb128 mentioned that) [16:39] ogra_, they are [16:40] ogra_, well for the user at least [16:40] so i guess updating it there should work [16:40] seb128, what about AccountsService's Language key? [16:40] mterry, we don't have a mechanism to copy stuff to /etc atm though [16:40] we do have a mechanism to copy to ~ [16:40] and we can edit other stuff by doing upstart jobs i suppose [16:41] mterry, we go through accountsservice's dbus method to write the config so I guess that has a correct value? [16:41] mterry, but pam doesn't use AS [16:41] mterry, do the way it's applied to the sessions is through pam/.pam_environment, which works for text login etc as well [16:42] seb128, ogra_: ah yeah, AS just sets .pam_environment [16:42] cwayne, so that would be another option for you ^ [16:43] mterry, ok, i'm just trying to figure out which one is the generally preferred way [16:43] or 'the right way' :) [16:43] cwayne, AS is an abstraction layer for .pam_environment in this case. Either way is fine [16:44] cwayne, it *sounds* like you already have easy way to preseed ~ files, so maybe .pam_environment is best for you [16:46] we have an easy way, but it's generally considered the 'hackier' way to do it tbh [16:46] mterry, i'll play around with an upstart job and see what works best === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [17:05] Cimi, ping [17:16] hey guys if you turn bluetooth off an come back to your phone in an hour is it turned back on? [17:19] * ogra_ hasnt checked that, but i know it gets turned on after reboot [17:23] mhall119: not sure youmissed my ping from yesterday, but I think I asked you to move the CI Airline discussion on Tuesday to 4PM [17:24] ogra_, rsalveti should we have a vUDS session dedicated fully to x86 images? Some will be touched in the Qt session but we'd need one for most of the rest of the work items [17:25] mhall119: and as well, you didn't move the "make click apps runnable from the unity7 dash" in the client2 track [17:25] janimo: we could probably have one, might be useful indeed [17:25] janimo: mind leading it? [17:25] OT: The Edge ; she lives !! For Ebay tells me so ... http://r.ebay.com/2O1dPH Ghehe . [17:25] kenvandine, is there a session for account plugins as clicks (mainly how to deal with dependencies etc)? [17:25] cwayne, not that i know of [17:26] janimo, seems to make sense to me ... though i guess most bits we will hit are not really predictable [17:27] but we should at least list the obvious bits [17:27] janimo: and creating support for the x86 emulator might be the easier way to go [17:27] unless we have a device in hands :-) [17:28] kenvandine, would it make sense to have one? or is it not quite worth it [17:28] it might already be well defined, not sure [17:28] mardy, ^^ [17:29] ogra_: I'm more concerned about the gl x gles issue [17:29] ++ [17:29] i know the click hooks themselves will be easy enough, just didn't know about dependencies, etc [17:29] rsalveti, but that will likely be covered in the Qt session [17:29] yeah === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [17:41] cwayne, kenvandine: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1311-online-accounts [17:41] at least partially :-) [17:41] rsalveti, ogra I'll se about setting something up [17:41] thx [17:41] mardy, awesome thanks :) [17:42] rsalveti, even with the emulator we'd still need the images being built. That is the main blocker IMHO from an infrastructure PoV as it is not really doable by most people [17:42] unlike the various x86 specific bugfixes across android and packages that may come up [17:45] right, indeed === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [17:52] * janimo registered a blueprint then was lead elsewhere by launchpad. Needs to find it now === boiko_ is now known as boiko === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:07] ogra_, rsalveti this is the meeting URL but I can't seem to be able to register a blueprint [18:07] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22114/ubuntu-touch-for-x86/ [18:11] tedg, hey, your MR for upstart-app-launch will add the app dir to the XDG_DATA_DIRS right? as in, it doesn't overwrite it to *just* include the app_dir? [18:25] Hi, I read ubuntu only officially support nexus devices. Can i install ubuntu on my android device like sony mobile ? If so, what problems are likely? [18:31] inblueswithu, there are some community ports, see the devices wikipage (though they are usually a bit behind in features and function) [18:32] !devices | inblueswithu [18:32] inblueswithu: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [18:32] ubot5: ogra_: thankyou :) I'll look into it [18:32] inblueswithu: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:32] :) [18:32] silly bot [18:33] ya.. :P silly thing [18:33] but it got me correctly === soul is now known as Guest87208 === makimac is now known as makimac|afk === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [18:58] Hello everyone, I'm wondering what's the status on ubuntu touch on galaxy S4 besides the few posts on forums, Can my device be a test subject, can I help in anyway? === fmasi is now known as fmasi_afk [19:01] Jsanchez, there is no official support for the device [19:01] nor is there any planned [19:02] so whatever people are doing in the forums, that would be it :) [19:02] beuno, that's a bummer, I have this good piece of hardware with shitty OS, *snif* === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [19:32] Any fellow devs active? [19:42] Hashcode, o great one, I have an issue with the Xt907 port. Can you help me? [19:51] Any devs? [20:00] xnox can you help me possibly? [20:01]