[00:00] <Aliekezhi> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6408114/
[00:01] <Aliekezhi> bekks, the end of dmesg shows errors related to radeon driver (which is IN the kernel, right ?)
[00:02] <bekks> Aliekezhi: You played with oom_adj?
[00:02] <Aliekezhi> bekks, no idea what is is
[00:02] <agora> anonynimity try installing libncurses5
[00:02] <bekks> Aliekezhi: the radeon driver is just a module, and those messages arent critival.
[00:02] <Anonynimity> the amd64 package?
[00:02] <Aliekezhi> bekks, I removed mdadm from boot because this computer doesn't use RAID system and only has one disk
[00:02] <agora> anonynimity there should be an i386 package
[00:02] <Aliekezhi> bekks, but the problem was there before so I guess it's not related
[00:03] <Anonynimity> there isn't all that's listed in the packages on the site is amd64
[00:03] <agora> anonynimity you're looking at lib32ncurses5
[00:03] <Anonynimity> yes
[00:03] <agora> anonynimity http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/libncurses5
[00:03] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Then try setting the values I told you, run sudo sysctl -p afterwards - and post a free -m and ps aux immediately when you notice your computer starts to swap again. How much RAM do you have by the way?
[00:03] <agora> im talking about libncurses5
[00:03] <Anonynimity> oh, okay...
[00:04] <Anonynimity> thx.
[00:04] <agora> it should work i believe
[00:04] <Anonynimity> okay...
[00:04] <Anonynimity> now to find the others... *sighs*
[00:05] <Aliekezhi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6408125/
[00:05] <Aliekezhi> bekks, 1GB
[00:05] <bekks> Aliekezhi: 1GB isnt much.
[00:06] <bekks> Aliekezhi: You have 2MB swap usage...
[00:06] <Anonynimity> so, instead of 32 agora, I just type in ia-libs (for example) or libz-dev
[00:06] <bekks> Aliekezhi: And much too less swap for 1GB :)
[00:06] <Anonynimity> or libreadline5/libreadline6
[00:06] <Aliekezhi> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6408131/
[00:07] <Aliekezhi> bekks, so you mean it's not swapping that much ? or then the space partition isn't big enough ?
[00:08] <agora> anonynimity no, if you're running saucy then ia32-libs is a nonexistent package
[00:08] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Actually, it isnt swapping (only 2MB) and your swap partition is far too small. For just 1GB RAM, I suggest using at least 2GB swap.
[00:08] <bekks> Aliekezhi: And in addition, setting the values I told you.
[00:08] <Anonynimity> but you can install it using the raring repo agora, right?
[00:09] <agora> anonynimity ehm, i would imagine so. also this person has a similar problem to you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81815/cant-install-lib32ncurses5-dev-or-ia32-libs#81819
[00:10] <Aliekezhi> bekks, going to try this, I'll tell you if it doesn't fix the problem
[00:11] <agora> anonynimity it is probably listing that as a dependency because it thinks it needs it to install other packages.  Try to install everything else first.
[00:12] <agora> anonynimity if you do get it installed though then you shouldn't have to worry about using multiarch on each dependency that is 64-bit only
[00:14] <Anonynimity> okay, cool...
[00:14] <oaulakh> hello you all
[00:14] <agora> hi
[00:14] <bing0719> hi
[00:14] <Anonynimity> I had to use ia32-libs-multiarch to get that installed... but everything else aside from libreadline-dev, libreadline5-dev, libreadline6-dev libreadline-gplv2-dev went great
[00:15] <oaulakh> anyone know any good looking futuristic theme for linux,that's in movies
[00:15] <phong_> hi
[00:15] <phong_> guys
[00:16] <agora> anonynimity what happened with those?
[00:16] <bing0719> how to instaall themes....?
[00:16] <agora> hello phong_
[00:17] <apb1963_> kmix is killing my system... load average is 5 right now
[00:17] <Anonynimity> agora: Probably going to get kicked for this but...
[00:17] <Med_Amine> que fait cut -d' ' -f1,3 note | uniq > paquet
[00:17] <Anonynimity> this is what happened: The following extra packages will be installed:
[00:17] <Anonynimity>   libreadline6-dev
[00:17] <Anonynimity> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[00:17] <Anonynimity>   libreadline-gplv2-dev
[00:17] <Anonynimity> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[00:17] <Anonynimity>   libreadline-dev libreadline6-dev
[00:17] <FloodBot1> Anonynimity: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:18] <Anonynimity> lol
[00:18] <Anonynimity> alrighty then... he he
[00:18] <bing0719> lol?
[00:19] <Anonynimity> so that's what happened with those packages agora
[00:19] <Anonynimity> :((
[00:19] <agora> anonynimity hmm, did you say yes?
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> bing0719, what ubuntu release, this is key info always.
[00:19] <agora> cause libreadline5-dev is not an existing package in saucy
[00:20] <Anonynimity> no because the libreadline-gplv2-dev is a required package for what I'm trying to do...
[00:20] <oaulakh> anyone know any good looking futuristic theme for linux,that's in movies
[00:20] <jimgroth> whow, I was JUST looking for something like that
[00:20] <reisio> oaulakh: most themes are that awful :p
[00:21] <agora> anonynimity you could install manually from the lucid packages
[00:21] <oaulakh> not thats not
[00:21] <agora> anonynimity everything else is installed besides those you said?
[00:21] <oaulakh> did you see iron?
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, what ubuntu release, this is key info always.
[00:21] <oaulakh> secter 16 theme?
[00:21] <Anonynimity> besides those 2 or 4 packages, yes agora
[00:21] <oaulakh> ubuntu studio
[00:21] <oaulakh> 13.10
[00:21] <agora> anonynimity actually just try installing libreadline-dev
[00:22] <Anonynimity> but won't that remove libreadline-gplv2-dev?
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, Try #ubuntu-studio
[00:22] <Anonynimity> yes it will
[00:22] <Anonynimity> :((
[00:22] <agora> anonynimity hmm you could always reinstall it tho?
[00:23] <Anonynimity> yes, but it will remove the libreadline-dev package... but I have an idea...
[00:23] <oaulakh> but i need themes only....
[00:23] <Anonynimity> how about I download the .deb packages for those 2,
[00:23] <oaulakh> i have'nt system related issue
[00:23] <agora> anonynimity i feel like you're only supposed to have one or the other
[00:23] <Anonynimity> and I dpkg -i libreadline libreadline6-dev?
[00:23] <jackal_af1> I added a new network interface (VSphere image) to an already installed ubuntu server VM.  After configuring the interface (/etc/network/interfaces) I can no longer ssh to the host on the original interface, nor is a web server originally hosted on the machine responding.  Both interface are up according to ifconfig.  any thoughts?
[00:23] <Anonynimity> but referring to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274692
[00:24] <Anonynimity> says I need both
[00:24] <Anonynimity> or all 3...
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, The common desktop here is unity, thanks for at the least mentioning you are running ubuntu studio, changing themes can be problematic just a heads up be sure to keep a list of what you do.
[00:25] <agora> anonynimity weird
[00:25] <bekks> jackal_af1: Wrong configuration. What did you "edit" in detail, and whats the output of ifconfig -a; netstat -rn; now?
[00:26] <Anonynimity> now, the question is Agora, do I download the package from debian.org or ubuntu quantal ??
[00:26] <jimgroth> I'm running lubuntu. Should I be somewhere else or is it similar enough to the "daddy" distro?
[00:26] <oaulakh> okk
[00:26] <Anonynimity> hmmmmmm
[00:26] <agora> anonynimity shouldn't matter, but go with ubuntu
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> jimgroth, You're okay here.
[00:26] <jimgroth> =)
[00:27] <jimgroth> So, I'm looking to change the look and feel to something darker. I like the old terminal feel of green or orange. Any ideas? I've tried to find themes and thought GTK2.0 would work but... no.
[00:27] <jackal_af1> this was the original config for eth0:
[00:27] <jackal_af1> auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static	address 10.173.245.32	netmask 255.255.255.0	network 10.173.245.0	broadcast 10.173.245.255	gateway 10.173.245.1	dns-nameservers 10.170.4.10	pre-up iptables-restore < /etc/network/iptables.rules
[00:27] <jackal_af1> this is what I added for eth1
[00:28] <jackal_af1> auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static	address 10.173.245.33	netmask 255.255.255.0	network 10.173.245.0	broadcast 10.173.245.255	gateway 10.173.245.1	dns-nameservers 10.170.4.10
[00:28] <Anonynimity> urggghhhh conflicting packages... GDIMFSOBCSB
[00:28] <bekks> !paste | jackal_af1
[00:28] <agora> anonynimity ya, as i suspected
[00:28] <bekks> jackal_af1: Spamming it into the channel is pretty unreadable.
[00:28] <Anonynimity> sec
[00:28] <oaulakh> ok i will sought out but do you have themes links that look like in movies
[00:28] <agora> anonynimity you are essentially trying to install two different versions of the same package
[00:28] <jackal_af1> !paste
[00:28] <Anonynimity> yes... I understand this...
[00:28] <Anonynimity> ha ... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[00:28] <agora> anonynimity so you should be able to proceed without readline5?
[00:28] <jackal_af1> auto eth0
[00:28] <jackal_af1> iface eth0 inet static
[00:28] <jackal_af1> 	address 10.173.245.32
[00:28] <jackal_af1> 	netmask 255.255.255.0
[00:28] <jackal_af1> 	network 10.173.245.0
[00:28] <FloodBot1> jackal_af1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:28] <jackal_af1> 	broadcast 10.173.245.255
[00:28] <jackal_af1> 	gateway 10.173.245.1
[00:29] <bekks> jackal_af1: Use a pastebin.
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> jackal_af1, You just ran the paste bot info use it.
[00:29] <bekks> jackal_af1: Please do not spam into the channel.
[00:29] <jackal_af1> sorry
[00:29] <diytto> I'm attempting to create a bootable live usb drive on my mac, yet the pc i am trying to boot it from will not boot ubuntu
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> geez
[00:29] <diytto> i'm using unetbootin to create the usb drive
[00:30] <Anonynimity> in theory, yes, but in practice, no... there's a reason the tuorial says I need libreadline5-dev libreadline6-dev and libreadline-dev...
[00:30] <jackal_af1> http://pastebin.com/a0u3XMts
[00:30] <kevin^_> hey guys so im running ubuntu precise 12.04, if i do-release-upgrade, will it upgrade me to saucy 13.10 or do i need to do-release-upgrade three times...?
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> diytto, The usb has been loaded but wont boot?
[00:30] <diytto> no
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> kevin^_, up on release at a time
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> one*
[00:30] <diytto> it won't boot from the usb at all
[00:30] <diytto> it just reverts to windows
[00:31] <kevin^_> wilee-nilee: alright. thanks.
[00:31] <Anonynimity> sec
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> diytto, why would you be booting it without it loaded?
[00:31] <diytto> wilee-nilee: I'm unsure what you mean by 'loaded'
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> diytto, unetbootin loads the iso.
[00:32] <diytto> oh yes
[00:32] <diytto> i used unetbooting to create a usb from a live iso
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> diytto, Has the usb been loaded with the iso but wont boot on the other computer?
[00:32] <diytto> yes
[00:32] <Anonynimity> UUURRRRGGGGGHhhhhhhhHHHHHHHH
[00:32] <Anonynimity> almost had it too...
[00:32] <agora> anonynimity the only thing i can think of is to modify the dependencies
[00:33] <Anonynimity> *shakes head*
[00:33] <agora> anonynimity i really have no idea why you need an old and new version of a package
[00:33] <Anonynimity> from terminal --
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> diytto, Are you aware of the per-session boot outside the bios, mine is prompted with f12, where as if I want the bios I use f2. Are you alse aware of putting the usb as first read in the bios.
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> also*
[00:34] <diytto> yes
[00:34] <diytto> i have done both
[00:34] <pinPoint> I want to install openssl .tar.gz in my ubuntu 12.04 lts. How can I replace it with the manual build? I use Repo before, its at 1.0.1, looking to manually install 1.0.1e
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> diytto, What happens on the per-seesion?
[00:34] <diytto> usb is set as primary boot and i have tried to boot from the boot selector
[00:34] <diytto> wilee-nilee: same thng either way
[00:34] <bekks> pinPoint: You dont want to do that - it will break a lot of things. Why do you want to replace the 12.04 openssl package?
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> diytto, What actually happens?
[00:34] <diytto> wilee-nilee: boots straight to windows
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> diytto, I have to assume since your using an apple computer that unetbootin is correct, so be that have you checked the sum of the iso?
[00:36] <pinPoint> bekks: after apache 2.4 and new openssl for security
[00:36] <diytto> wilee-nilee: how would i go about getting the cheksum
[00:36] <bekks> pinPoint: This is the changelog of openssl, as you can see, the latest version in 12.04 is 1.0.1e actually. http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1-4ubuntu5.10/changelog
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | diytto
[00:36] <pinPoint> ocsp stapling, Forward secrecy, and better tls1.2 cipher support
[00:37] <pinPoint> it is? bekks ?
[00:37] <bekks> pinPoint: Just look at the changelog.
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> diytto, Can you use other than a mac for this usb loading and a sum check?
[00:37] <pinPoint> bekks: what of apache 2.4.6?
[00:37] <diytto> wilee-nilee: where can i find the official checksum
[00:37] <bekks> pinPoint: Whats up with apache 2.4.6?
[00:37] <diytto> wilee-nilee: no, mac is my only option
[00:38] <pinPoint> I wants it
[00:38] <kevin^_> uhmm, is there a way the package manager can download multiple things simultaneously (in regards of do-release-upgrade)? this sequential downloading is dreadful
[00:38] <Anonynimity> dpkg -i --force-conflicts libreadline6-dev_6.2-8_i386.deb ; libreadline-gplv2-dev:i386 conflicts with libreadline6-dev libreadline6-dev:i386 is to be installed dpkg: warning: ignoring conflict, may proceed anyway (Reading database ... 66835 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libreadline6-dev:i386 (from libreadline6-dev_6.2-8_i386.deb) ...  dpkg: error processing libreadline6-dev_6.2-8_i386.deb (--install): trying to overwrite '/u
[00:38] <Anonynimity> sr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libhistory.a', which is also in package libreadline-gplv2-dev:i386 5.2+dfsg-2 dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: libreadline6-dev_6.2-8_i386.deb
[00:38] <Anonynimity> @ agora
[00:38] <bekks> pinPoint: Then you have to either backport it from some PPA or manually build it.
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> diytto, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[00:39] <diytto> thanks
[00:39] <agora> anonynimity wow
[00:39] <Anonynimity> that's why changing the dependencies won't matter agora.
[00:39] <cvtsx> hello
[00:39] <Aliekezhi> does xserver-xorg-raring can be installed on 12.04 Precise without issues ?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> diytto, here is the usual bot link that has mac info as well.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[00:39] <bekks> Aliekezhi: No.
[00:40] <Anonynimity> and agora it's 666835 files and directories currently installed
[00:40] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Just randomly installing software will not solve your issue ;)
[00:40] <Anonynimity> why the wow?
[00:40] <agora> anonynimity wow cause it failed
[00:40] <diytto> wilee-nilee: checksum is correct
[00:40] <agora> anonynimity you're right
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> diytto, I gues that bot link I gave you has two links sorry for the repeat of one.
[00:40] <diytto> wilee-nilee: does it make a difference if i am using the 64bit install?
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> diytto, for?
[00:40] <Aliekezhi> bekks, well installing a more recent software where the bug could be solved is suppoed to be a logicall approach
[00:41] <diytto> wilee-nilee: the usb
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> diytto, nope
[00:41] <diytto> ok
[00:41] <agora> anonynimity im trying to think of another reason that the thread lists both versions of this package
[00:41] <Aliekezhi> bekks, it's not random, the bug is from xorg, so I try to install a more recent version of xorg
[00:41] <bekks> Aliekezhi: That would be correct if you investigated that the X server is the problem. I strongly doubt that, since you havent provided any proof of that until now :)
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> diytto, Are you using a iso you downloaded separately than the ones given by unetbootin?
[00:42] <Aliekezhi> bekks, xorg crash with logs
[00:42] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Which bug? Do you have a launchpad bug ID? Or was your X server just killed because of too less RAM and too less swap?
[00:42] <diytto> wilee-nilee: seperate.
[00:42] <maniac> help
[00:42] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Until now, there was proof of an X server bug at all.
[00:42] <Anonynimity> a reason the thread lists both versions of this package in the command line code box because: android and CM 10.1 may use 1 version to compile it, while the other, ubuntu uses to compile it...
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> cool diytto the unetbootin ones have been a problem for some is all.
[00:42] <Anonynimity> ?
[00:42] <diytto> wilee-nilee: i used bittorrent to download it
[00:42] <Aliekezhi> bekks, if you like logs here are all my logs :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1250677
[00:43] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Did you set the values I told you, and did you reboot after that? Did the error occur again?
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> diytto, best way usually.
[00:43] <agora> anonynimity is that what it says?
[00:43] <diytto> it's certainly the quickest
[00:43] <Anonynimity> that's not what it says...
[00:43] <Aliekezhi> bekks, I added the values, didn't reboot yet
[00:43] <agora> anonynimity oh okay
[00:44] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Actually, the "oom_adj" notice isnt an error at all in dmesg.
[00:44] <Aliekezhi> bekks, but the same computer is there since 2 years on ubuntu with same RAM values and no crash
[00:44] <Anonynimity> agora it says: Enter this in order to get dependencies for building android, please note that this is about 100-150 megs and will take a few minutes/10ish minutes depending on your computer and internet connection.
[00:44] <Aliekezhi> bekks, you said the controry a few minutes ago
[00:44] <bekks> Aliekezhi: And the current kernel for 12.04 LTS is 3.5
[00:44] <Anonynimity> then it gives the code.
[00:44] <bekks> Aliekezhi: No, I didnt, I asked you wether you did something with oom_adj. I did NOT say it is an error.
[00:45] <agora> anonynimity im stumped
[00:45] <Anonynimity> so am I
[00:45] <Aliekezhi> bekks, 3.2 was there by default.I upgraded to lastest available kernel in main repository to check if the issue was solved
[00:45] <diytto> wilee-nilee: any ideas?
[00:45] <agora> is there risk with proceeding without the old version?
[00:45] <Anonynimity> agora's Repo is required for sucking sources from the cloud...
[00:45] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Currently, 12.04 is at 12.04.3 which introduced kernel 3.5
[00:46] <Anonynimity> I have no idea agora
[00:46] <Aliekezhi> bekks, well, what are these xorg-quantal-lts and xorg-raring-lts package for ? supposed to work, right ?
[00:46] <bekks> Aliekezhi: And the latest kernel you are using is a mainline kernel without any ubuntu related patches.
[00:46] <agora> tbh i don't think i can help you from here
[00:46] <agora> you have been told that you need to install two packages that conflict
[00:46] <Anonynimity> well, thanks for your help agora.... waiiittttttt.....
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> diytto, The sum good?
[00:46] <Anonynimity> wait a minute
[00:46] <Anonynimity> hang on....
[00:46] <diytto> wilee-nilee: yes
[00:46] <agora> im still here :)
[00:46] <pinPoint> bekks: let's say I apache 2.2 installed via a repo then I use a ppa from the internet, will it replace my current apache instance?
[00:46] <bekks> Aliekezhi: BEfore randomly replacing software, you should investigate the issue as I proposed to you.
[00:46] <Aliekezhi> bekks, hum ok, so i'll try with 3.5
[00:47] <Aliekezhi> bekks, well the logs shows xorg crash, so upgrading xorg isn't really "random"
[00:47] <bekks> pinPoint: Depends on the PPA, and what the author of the packages in the PPA actually does.
[00:47] <Aliekezhi> bekks, and you didn't answer my question
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> diytto, I have never used a mac so not really, all I would do if me is look at the other usb loaders that are suggested if unstbootin seems not to work.
[00:48] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Well, you didnt answer my question wether the solution provided helps and eliminates the problem or not.
[00:48] <Anonynimity> agora, how would I open libreadline-dev for editing... would I use g-edit or....?
[00:48] <bekks> Aliekezhi: If it does, its not an X server bug.
[00:48] <diytto> wilee-nilee: the other option is to used the ubuntu guid, but that didn't work either
[00:48] <diytto> guide*
[00:48] <Aliekezhi> bekks, ok I'll try a reboot with 3.5 + your options and tell you if the problem is solved
[00:48] <agora> anonynimity wait why would you want to do that? o.O
[00:49] <bekks> Aliekezhi: You told me you would do that shortly after I offered you that solution already.
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> diytto, If the other computer shows the per-session boot and you have tried all its options as sometimes how the usb is read can be different I would assume it is the loading that is bad.
[00:49] <Anonynimity> because then I could change the file name from/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libhistory.a in the .deb package itself, and install it with a different filename
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> diytto, Try a dvd
[00:49] <diytto> wilee-nilee: okay. i will go buys some CDs and try that then
[00:50] <diytto> thanks
[00:50] <Anonynimity> say /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libhistory-1.a
[00:50] <Anonynimity> and the same with libreadline5-dev, could change it to libhistory-2.a
[00:50] <Anonynimity> @agora
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> diytto, Cjeck the iso size probably a dvd is needed, however a netload is tiny and fits on a cd and lubuntu and maybe xubuntu.
[00:50] <Aliekezhi> bekks, lastest 3.5.0 is ok ?
[00:51] <diytto> wilee-nilee: i just need a liveboot to transfer some data off the hard drive
[00:51] <agora> anonynimity but how will that help? i dont think the new version would ever be referenced, but i could be wrong
[00:51] <bekks> Aliekezhi: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install linux-image will give you the latest LTS kernel.
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> diytto, I would try puppylinux it runs in root.
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> and is small
[00:51] <diytto> wilee-nilee: the windows install got screwed due to a virus and it needs a reinstall
[00:51] <bekks> Aliekezhi: you shouldnt use the mainline kernel unless you know why exactly.
[00:51] <diytto> i will look at it
[00:52] <Anonynimity> it would have to be, wouldn't it?
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> diytto, Ah windows, running it in admin per-chance?
[00:52] <diytto> wilee-nilee: windows cannot boot anymore
[00:52] <Anonynimity> if it's installed.... ubuntu references everything that's installed... does it not?
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> diytto, 90% of badware is cutoff by just running windows in a standard account is all.
[00:53] <Anonynimity> windows.... windows... windows.... windows...
[00:53]  * Anonynimity starts banging on the table
[00:53] <Aliekezhi> bekks, result of apt-get install linux-image is linux-headers-3.2.0-51-generic
[00:53] <diytto> wilee-nilee: i ran an offline windows defender boot drive and it removed windows boot files
[00:53] <agora> anonynimity well if that file specifically was referenced then it would just take the old version, but you're right if the package was referenced it would work
[00:54] <Aliekezhi> bekks, so according to what you saied it's not lastest LTS kernel
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> diytto, That can be reloaded if just the boot files, but a infected windows is best reloaded with a clean clone or reinstall.
[00:54] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Did you run sudo apt-get update before?
[00:54] <Anonynimity> and I assume it's not installing because it can't overwrite that one file agora?
[00:54] <Aliekezhi> bekks,  yes
[00:54] <agora> anonynimity yes
[00:54] <bekks> Aliekezhi: And apt-get install linux-image install a kernel, not just headers.
[00:54] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Pastebin sudo apt-get update please, into a pastebin.
[00:54] <Anonynimity> one file.... one phucking file....
[00:54] <diytto> wilee-nilee: that's the plan
[00:54] <Aliekezhi> bekks, I pasted only this one because they all are same version
[00:55]  * Anonynimity starts yelling at the computer
[00:55] <agora> anonynimity or perhaps that's just the first one it ran into
[00:55] <bekks> Aliekezhi: thats misleading very much.
[00:55] <Anonynimity> you can't overwrite one stupid little file or change the freaking name of yours.... because you're a stupid computer
[00:55] <Aliekezhi> bekks, they all are 3.2 linux image + headers and dependencies
[00:55] <agora> anonynimity probably just the first one it ran into
[00:56] <pinPoint> bekks: https://launchpad.net/~derek-morton/+archive/apache-2.4
[00:56]  * Anonynimity throws the computer out the window, runs after it, jumps on it 10 times, tosses it 30 feet into the air, lets it land on the ground; and sees it doesn't have a single scratch on or in it...
[00:56] <Aliekezhi> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6408285/
[00:56] <agora> anonynimity it's not the computer's fault
[00:56] <agora> anonynimity you are asking it to do something that doesn't make sense
[00:56] <Anonynimity> you mean it'll run into more files like that?
[00:57] <agora> anonynimity i would imagine so
[00:57] <Aliekezhi> bekks, that's what I don't understand...why by default it stays on old kernel ? there is was even some 2.6 kernel installed !
[00:57] <Anonynimity> omgg
[00:57] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Because newer kernels are to be installed by the user, not automagically.
[00:57] <Aliekezhi> bekks, ... so why do you tell me to do it automatically when I was doing it manually ?........
[00:58] <Aliekezhi> bekks, ok I install lastest 3.8 as I was doing
[00:58] <bekks> Aliekezhi: I never told you that the kernel will be updated automatically.
[00:58] <Aliekezhi> quote :
[00:58] <Aliekezhi> " sudo apt-get install linux-image will give you the latest LTS kernel."
[00:58] <Aliekezhi> "Currently, 12.04 is at 12.04.3 which introduced kernel 3.5"
[00:58] <bekks> "sudo apt-get install linux-image" is a command to be run manually.
[00:59] <kostkon> Aliekezhi, 12.04.3 uses 3.8 not 3.5
[00:59] <bekks> kostkon: Ah, they're on 3.8 now even.
[00:59] <Aliekezhi> omg
[00:59] <Aliekezhi> losing so much time there
[00:59] <Aliekezhi> I was using 3.8
[00:59] <Aliekezhi> ...
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, This a dual boot as well with another linux?
[01:00] <bekks> Aliekezhi: You said you were using 3.2 and updated to 3.11
[01:00] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, no
[01:00] <pinPoint> bekks: what do you think of that ppa?
[01:00] <kostkon> Aliekezhi, sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-saucy will give you 3.11  read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[01:00] <bekks> pinPoint: I wont use it, for the sake of being a PPA which you are going to use on a webserver. It's your choice.
[01:00] <bekks> !ppa | pinPoint
[01:01] <Aliekezhi> kostkon, I'm using 3.11 right now
[01:01] <kostkon> Aliekezhi, oh ok
[01:01] <Aliekezhi> kostkon, but bekks told me it's not patched for ubuntu and I shouldn't use it
[01:01] <kostkon> Aliekezhi, where did you download it from?
[01:01] <bekks> Aliekezhi: You are using a mainline kernel as you told us. The mainline kernel do not contain ubuntu patches.
[01:01] <Aliekezhi> kostkon, using synaptic with default sources.list configuration
[01:02] <Aliekezhi> kostkon, so canonical repo
[01:02] <kostkon> Aliekezhi, then you did sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-saucy ?
[01:02] <kostkon> Aliekezhi, if thats the case then you are fine
[01:02] <pinPoint> bekks: it look slike apache 2.4.6 will never make it to 12.04.3 lts so what other options of updating are there?>
[01:02] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Just pastebin apt-cache policy linux-image and apt-cache policy linux-generic-lts-saucy
[01:03] <bekks> pinPoint: Using the security updated packages from 12.04
[01:03] <Aliekezhi> kostkon, 3.11-precise
[01:04] <pinPoint> bekks: I don't understand. I use apt-get update and upgrade almost every other day. I didn't see an offer of apache 2.4.6...
[01:04] <Aliekezhi> kostkon, 3.11-13.20~precise2
[01:04] <bekks> pinPoint: 2.4.6 will not make it into 12.04, but apache2 packages in 12.04 will be patched for security updates.
[01:05] <kostkon> Aliekezhi, hmm that versioning is usually applied to ppa packages
[01:05] <kostkon> Aliekezhi, so just give what bekks asked you
[01:05] <pinPoint> so the perfomance upgrades, MPMs, forward secrecy, oscp stapling, tls 1.2 Ellyptic Curve updates never will?
[01:05] <Aliekezhi> kostkon, the saucy one isn't installed
[01:06] <kostkon> Aliekezhi, i think you got it from some ppa
[01:06] <bekks> pinPoint: you have to read the changelog of the packages in question to have that question answered.
[01:07] <Aliekezhi> kostkon, bekks http://paste.ubuntu.com/6408316/
[01:07] <Aliekezhi> kostkon, so you mean there could be some unofficial ubuntu repo enabled somewhere ? actually nothing like this in sources.list, where should I look ?
[01:08] <kostkon> Aliekezhi, yeah possibly
[01:08] <kostkon> Aliekezhi, look in your /etc/apt/sources.list file and in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d folder
[01:09] <Ben64> kostkon: what are you thinking is not an ubuntu package?
[01:09] <kostkon> Ben64, it is, from a ppa
[01:09] <Ben64> which package
[01:10] <kostkon> Ben64, no idea. ask Aliekezhi
[01:10] <Aliekezhi> kostkon, actually there are files in sources.list.d
[01:10] <Ben64> kostkon: why are you so sure theres a ppa if you don't know what could be from a ppa??
[01:10] <Aliekezhi> kostkon, google-chrome.list.distUpgrade lucid-partner.list.distUpgrade
[01:10] <Aliekezhi> kostkon, should I remove these files ?
[01:11] <kostkon> Ben64, the versioning <Aliekezhi> kostkon, 3.11-13.20~precise2
[01:11] <Aliekezhi> Ben64, kernel 3.11-13.20~precise2
[01:12] <pinPoint> bekks: yeah, those features will still not be there in 2.22.x
[01:12] <kostkon> Aliekezhi, leave those files
[01:12] <pinPoint> sad really when 2.4.6 could be much better
[01:13] <pinPoint> bekks: plus that ppa is untrusted but at least they are recoginized in the ubuntu community.
[01:13] <pinPoint> recognized*
[01:15] <Geo> hi, does anyone know a good code snippet manager on ubuntu ?
[01:15] <Aliekezhi> kostkon, bekks deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
[01:15] <Aliekezhi> should be the cause
[01:15] <Aliekezhi> ?
[01:16] <kostkon> Aliekezhi, no, try giving apt-cache policy linux-generic*
[01:16] <Aliekezhi> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all
[01:17] <Aliekezhi> you guys have a problem I think
[01:17] <Aliekezhi> you don't know how to search a package ? XD
[01:17] <Aliekezhi> I feel like losing time here, 3.11 is on precise according to ubuntu package website...
[01:18] <Aliekezhi> I'll try to solve the problem myself and see if the bugzilla can change something
[01:18] <Aliekezhi> I don't think I'll come back there, no usefull help
[01:22] <jackal_af1> can someone please provide pointers or advice into setting up two NICs with static IPs on the same subnet?
[01:23] <harushimo> any good assembly compiler for ubuntu?
[01:24] <harushimo> I'm looking for one
[01:25] <Jordan_U> harushimo: GAS
[01:25] <harushimo> thats a program right?
[01:25] <Jordan_U> harushimo: Assuming you want an assembler for x86 assembly in the AT&T style.
[01:25] <reisio> bin86
[01:26] <harushimo> x86 and it would be cool to do arm chips also
[01:26] <Jordan_U> harushimo: (Though GAS recently started supporting Intel style to a certain extent as well).
[01:26] <harushimo> cool
[01:26] <harushimo> i'll look into it
[01:26] <harushimo> it works with ubuntu 12.04 LTS correct?
[01:27] <harushimo> Jordan_U: how is nasm?
[01:28] <Jordan_U> harushimo: I've used it without any issues, and of course it uses Intel syntax.
[01:30] <harushimo> Jordan_U: I'm just starting out. What is the difference between Intel version and AT & T
[01:30] <harushimo> I've seen you mentioned it
[01:31] <Jordan_U> harushimo: http://www.imada.sdu.dk/Courses/DM18/Litteratur/IntelnATT.htm
[01:32] <harushimo> thanks
[01:33] <Jordan_U> harushimo: AT&T style has historically been the Unix style, and the fact that it's what's used by the GCC stack (of which GAS is a part), makes it appealing. That said, for whatever reason, most beginners examples I see use Intel syntax.
[01:34] <harushimo> Jordan_U: thanks I'll mess around with GAS
[01:34] <harushimo> you said GAS supports the Intel syntax too?
[01:34] <SrinivasGowda> hey guys
[01:34] <reisio> heya SrinivasGowda
[01:34] <SrinivasGowda> I'm trying to install ubuntu along side windows 7 on my new G505S
[01:35] <nasa01> Hi, On my fresh install of ubuntu 12 my nic is shutting down as soon as Ubuntu starts (ie: lights flashing then no lights at all).  Anyone know how to correct this?
[01:35] <SrinivasGowda> but windows 7 is installed in non EFI boot
[01:35] <SrinivasGowda> and ubuntu is installed in EFI mode
[01:35] <Jordan_U> harushimo: Yes, though the last time I tried to assemble a file with intel syntax (made for nasm) using GAS I had to replace all of the ';'s with '//' (nasm uses ';' to begin comments, GAS uses '//').
[01:35] <SrinivasGowda> and that causing a problem
[01:35] <reisio> SrinivasGowda: what problem
[01:35] <harushimo> cool
[01:36] <harushimo> I'll mess around nasm and gas
[01:36] <harushimo> thanks
[01:36] <SrinivasGowda> ubuntu din't detect windows 7 after install
[01:36] <SrinivasGowda> update-grub also doesn't work
[01:36] <reisio> SrinivasGowda: what makes you think Ubuntu thinks the system is using EFI?
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> SrinivasGowda, Have you run the bootrepair and have the bootinfo summary per-chance?
[01:39] <GeekDude> I'm getting a tar error,
[01:39] <GeekDude> "Cannot open: File exists", even though the file does not exist/did not exist prior to me trying to untar?
[01:40] <nasa01> GeekDude, does the file your untarrng create a directory?
[01:40] <GeekDude> nasa01: it creates 2 directories
[01:41] <GeekDude> with subdirectories
[01:41] <zoidberg-> http://www.celticsecurity.net/.htaccess fix?
[01:41] <zoidberg-> errr, whoops
[01:41] <nasa01> Did you remove them both prior to untarring?
[01:42] <GeekDude> nasa01: Isn't that the point of untarring? To get the directories out of the .tar.gz and into the file system?
[01:42] <reisio> GeekDude: maybe if you were more specific about the error
[01:42] <nasa01> Yes, my initial guess is that the files are of the wrong permissions so they can't be over written when you try a 2nd time
[01:43] <reisio> or even further: what the tarball is for
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> GeekDude, Have you checked that whatever the tar is may be in the repos, and yeah more specificities.
[01:43] <GeekDude> gimme a sec, I'll paste a log
[01:44] <nasa01> Anything I can add about my question?
[01:44] <reisio> nasa01: what was your question?
[01:44] <nasa01> Hi, On my fresh install of ubuntu 12 my nic is shutting down as soon as Ubuntu starts (ie: lights flashing then no lights at all).  Anyone know how to correct this?
[01:44] <GeekDude> Log: http://pastebin.com/fpsZHWTv
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> nasa01, So in other words the login does not work and a black screen?
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> or the login gets you a black screen in the end
[01:47] <nasa01> No, let me try again.  When I start up the computer, the nic lights up (link activity) until the Ubuntu screen appears.  At which point, the link activity lights stop.  Ubuntu continues to boot - but not wired network available
[01:48] <nasa01> It gives me a disconnected cable error
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> GeekDude, You would cd to the desktop and open the tar correctly.
[01:48] <reisio> nasa01: wired?
[01:48] <nasa01> yes
[01:49] <nasa01> GeekDude, I normally use "tar xvfz" to untar files like I see there.
[01:49] <GeekDude> wilee-nilee: No dice http://pastebin.com/jaXxcMJe
[01:49] <GeekDude> nasa01: vz?
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> GeekDude, cd ~/Desktop   then run the untar correctly
[01:51] <GeekDude> wilee-nilee: how would I run the untar correctly?
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> GeekDude, We are going to have to look at thet "Geek"dude part of your nick now, lol. ;)
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> !tar
[01:52] <nasa01> GeekDude, from manpage - v is for verbose (might be helpful here) and z is uncompressing gzip/gunzip/etc
[01:52] <GeekDude> wilee-nilee: Was I running the untar incorrectly before?
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> yes
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> and you were not even getting to it
[01:52] <melow01> Is there a way to pause apt-get update while its running?
[01:53] <melow01> For some reason its running super slow downloading the latest Google Chrome package and I need to leave my office soon
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> GeekDude, http://askubuntu.com/questions/25347/what-command-do-i-need-to-unzip-extract-a-tar-gz-file
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> melow01, never seen one letting it run is no biggie if installing.
[01:54] <melow01> wilee-nilee, ok
[01:54]  * nasa01 did remember the command correctly :}
[01:55] <GeekDude> wilee-nilee: so, it's because it's gzipped that I'm doing it wrong?
[01:55] <melow01> wilee-nilee, if I shut down in the middle of an apt-get update, will it kill anything?
[01:55] <Boohbah> GeekDude: GNU tar automatically recognizes compression formats
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> GeekDude, It says tar.gz there is a pretty standard command
[01:55] <nasa01> GeekDude, have you tried it yet (ensuring you're in the correct directory)?
[01:56] <Boohbah> tar xvf some.file.tar.gz
[01:56] <reisio> really no reason we should still be talking about tar :p
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> melow01, Only your ability to re update without a reboot and running a -f install or rm-ing the apt
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Yeah, you said it. ;)
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> melow01, shutting down a apt update is not a good idea, all it will do is run and sit at a yes or no to finish as is.
[02:00] <melow01> wilee-nilee, ok. luckily it finished. Any ideas if the Google servers are slow today for some reason?
[02:00] <nasa01> So, any thoughts on why link activity would stop when Ubuntu starts?
[02:01] <Nicolas_Leonidas> how do I upgrade the rails installed in my ubuntu to the latest version?
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> melow01, many nodes between you and the google servers, any answer would be a guess.
[02:02] <xangua> !latest | Nicolas_Leonidas
[02:04] <poz> hi guys,
[02:04] <GeekDude> *sighs* I'll just contact the creator of the tar file, hope he has some more helpful input as to why it doesn't untar correctly
[02:05] <poz> I have a problem where my computer keeps going black screen. it does not turn off the display. but the screen goes black (after about 10 - 15 mins)
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> strip that user of their self proclaimed "Geek" status, hehe
[02:06] <poz> I turned off all the easy settings like in the bightness and lock settings, power settings... and i changed the screen saver (which is disabled anyways) to enable after 720 mins
[02:07] <poz> but for some reason the screen keeps turning black... im on ubuntu 12.04
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> poz, Release?
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> poz, 12.03 has a problem with this.
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> 12.04*
[02:08] <melow01> wilee-nilee, ok, thanks
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> poz, I have yet to figure out a fix I just run xset -dpms ; xset s off
[02:08] <poz> is there a way to fix this problem? I never happend until a few days ago (remember I had some problems with updating and the background going black and all crazy like)
[02:08] <jubale> What is the best partition format to use for sharing data between Ubuntu and Windows?
[02:08] <poz> "run xset -dpms ; xset s off"?
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> jubale, NTFS
[02:09] <jubale> Thanks.
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> poz, That turns it off "the sreen going black"
[02:09] <jubale> I figured it would be NTFS, wanted to confirm.
[02:09] <poz> I figured out that update problem that I had a few days ago... or at least the cause of it... somthing with cinnamon
[02:09] <poz> wilee-nilee, is it permanent? (i want it to be)
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> poz, cinnamon in 12.04 is not supported.
[02:10] <poz> no problem, I got rid of it, caused to many problems
[02:10] <poz> lol
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> poz, That is a per-session, as I said already I have not found a fix myself.
[02:11] <poz> I will just add the code to the statup applications then
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> I tried that
[02:11] <poz> no worky?
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> not here but I did not do a pause
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> give it a 10 second or so pause
[02:13] <poz> k
[02:13] <jubale> Also, Software Updater keeps popping up but has an error everytime i try to update.
[02:13] <poz> how do I add a 10 second pause?
[02:15] <poz> jubale, try sudo apt-get -f install?
[02:15] <jubale> Doesn't do anything, but does say 42 not upgraded
[02:15] <jubale> I'll try upgrading again.
[02:16] <reisio> poz: sleep 10s
[02:18] <poz> so i put in for a startup application "xset -dpms ; xset s off sleep 10s"?
[02:18] <reisio> poz: that'd make it sleep 10s after it did everything else
[02:19] <poz> okay, thank you reisio
[02:19] <sam113101> can someone help me with zsh?
[02:21] <tankgear> Hmm.  I think it's ironic that my computer running Ubuntu wants to restart after the latest update today... and it's patch Tuesday.
[02:23] <Guest26080> is there a freeware app that runs on ubuntu  (linux) and on windows for making process flow diagrams like http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0PDoV6O4YJSYW4AqFqZDWNH?p=process+flow+diagram&fr=&ei=utf-8&y=Search      ?
[02:24] <JhonPhetenton> Hello all
[02:24] <jmgk> hi
[02:25] <jubale> That upgrade seems to have worked.
[02:26] <tankgear> hi Jhon
[02:26] <JhonPhetenton> Ciao tank
[02:28] <Jinxy> What's the syntax for a backup file. Say you have sensitive config file you want to save a backup before editing
[02:28] <Jinxy> .~backup.conf
[02:28] <Jinxy> like that?
[02:28] <reisio> Jinxy: YYYYMMDDfile
[02:29] <reisio> oh you mean for a text editor what saves backups
[02:29] <reisio> the default should be fine
[02:29] <JhonPhetenton> Per stavolta ho provato a vedere cosa succede. Ora esco. Ciao a tutti
[02:29] <reisio> JhonPhetenton: #ubuntu-it
[02:30] <JhonPhetenton> Ok grazie reisio
[02:30] <Jinxy> resisio, no it's simpler than that :L just before I cp a conf file how should I rename it?
[02:30] <Jinxy> putting a ~ before it would stop it being loaded by a program
[02:30] <Jinxy> I just thought there was a standardized format for this
[02:31] <reisio> Jinxy: not really
[02:31] <reisio> some use foo~, some use .foo.swp
[02:31] <reisio> it doesn't matter, as long as it's a name something won't be looking for
[02:31] <reisio> but I like adding a timestamp
[02:32] <Jinxy> exactly, I just like doing things properly ^-^
[02:32] <Jinxy> adding a timestamp is a good idea actually
[02:32] <jmgk> hey arvindeep
[02:32] <Jinxy> think I'll adopt that
[02:35] <vAd0r> Have any of you been able to get ubuntu installed on an hp prolient ml350 G3?
[02:36] <reisio> vAd0r: probably someone has
[02:36] <vAd0r> its so frustrating
[02:37] <vAd0r> i isntall it and it goes through everything and when it reboots and gets to where it should load the pc goes blank
[02:37] <wheatthin> vAd0r, no terminal console or anything?
[02:38] <vAd0r> monitor activity light goes from green to amber
[02:38] <vAd0r> its set to raid 0 on my raid card
[02:38] <wheatthin> !nomodeset
[02:38] <vAd0r> how can i fix it if i cant see it
[02:39] <wheatthin> vAd0r, booting a livedvd
[02:39] <vAd0r> this server does not have dvd
[02:39] <wheatthin> usb?
[02:39] <vAd0r> yeah
[02:39] <vAd0r> its old though
[02:39] <vAd0r> not sure if i have the option to boot
[02:39] <wheatthin> It's worth a shot
[02:39] <vAd0r> i have an option at the end of the install to use grub
[02:40] <vAd0r> should i not
[02:40] <cpare> Good evening room - is there any "Current" generic Kernel Headers module we can load to always ensure Kernel Headers stays up to date?
[02:40] <cpare> I am always finding mine falling behind
[02:40] <wheatthin> grub is needed, but there's a setting in there.. check out the link I ubottu suggested
[02:41] <wheatthin> cpare, unless there's a brand new hardware in which needs support, then there's not much reasoning to do so.
[02:42] <cpare> every time I update my kernel, phpVirtualbox needs the new headers
[02:42] <wheatthin> You shouldn't have to update your kernel that often tho... there's no reason for it.
[02:43] <cpare> in the past I have seen bogus packages that ensure the most recent version of packages that post with unique names each time
[02:43] <cpare> well, webmin is pulling down patches for my box, and applying them weekly
[02:44] <wheatthin> lol well don't let it
[02:44] <cpare> I guess I could stop that process
[02:44] <vAd0r> so it looks like i have that option if i hit f6 before install
[02:44] <cpare> I was thinking staying on top of it was a good idea
[02:44] <vAd0r> will it keep it if i run through the install again
[02:44] <cpare> to resolve any bugs / security issues
[02:44] <wheatthin> vAd0r, if you do a completely new install, it shouldn't keep it
[02:45] <vAd0r> so how do i make it keep it
[02:45] <vAd0r> its installed
[02:45] <vAd0r> im not sure how to change it on the existing install
[02:46] <carbon_guest> im kind of new to irc how do I see how many people are in a chat room at once?
[02:46] <reisio> carbon_guest: on freenode: /msg alis list #chatroom
[02:47] <carbon_guest> reisoio how is your name in red?
[02:47] <vite> helo how do I set the timezone for an ubuntu server?
[02:49] <wheatthin> vAd0r, well if you have a grub menu, You can temporarily edit the kernel line and add 'nomodeset'
[02:49] <Jinxy> carbon_guest That's your irc client doing that. When you reply to someone, and start the comment with their nickname, it's up the irc client to colour the name
[02:49] <wheatthin> vAd0r, once you do that, you can follow the guide
[02:49] <Jinxy> carbon_guest on mine, it's yellow
[02:50] <carbon_guest> jinxy like this ?
[02:50] <vAd0r> thats the problem the only way i get a menu is if i put my bootdisk back in
[02:51] <carbon_guest> Jinxy Like this ?
[02:51] <vAd0r> hey i can rescue a broken system
[02:51] <Guest26080> is there a freeware app that runs on ubuntu  (linux) and on windows for making process flow diagrams like http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0PDoV6O4YJSYW4AqFqZDWNH?p=process+flow+diagram&fr=&ei=utf-8&y=Search      ?
[02:53] <wheatthin> vAd0r, well then do so, then edit the kernel line, add 'nomodeset', esc then 'b' and then it'll boot. once it boots, go into /boot/default/grub and statically add it
[02:53] <vAd0r> you will have to excuse me on this one. how do i edit the kernel line
[02:54] <vAd0r> just vi to grub?
[02:54] <wheatthin> no.. once you get a grub menu, you can press 'e' to edit
[02:55] <Eliyahu`> where does skype install to in the filesystem in 13.10
[02:55] <carbon_guest> Guest26080 this one comes to mind but to be honest I havent used linux in about 3 years so something might be better out now https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/labyrinth/
[02:55] <wheatthin> Eliyahu`, same place it always installs to :P
[02:56] <jmgk> hm
[02:56] <Eliyahu`> i dont know where it installs to
[02:56] <wheatthin> Eliyahu`, have you already installed it?
[02:56] <vAd0r> so i am in grub.cfg
[02:56] <Eliyahu`> i just ran install from terminal
[02:56] <vAd0r> do i add it in there
[02:56] <Eliyahu`> i dont know the location
[02:57] <Eliyahu`> ./bin/etc etc etc
[02:57] <wheatthin> vAd0r, yes, you scroll down to your boot entry
[02:57] <cpined> evening...trying to install netflix-desktop...the install hangs on wine-browser-installer...any ideas?
[02:57] <MagentaMan> Guest26080, not sure if it fits exactly, but I like yEd Graph Editor http://www.yworks.com/en/products_yed_about.html
[02:57] <wheatthin> vAd0r, on the kernel line at the end
[02:58] <wheatthin> Eliyahu`, run 'sudo update-db'
[02:58] <vAd0r> hmm
[02:58] <vAd0r> it mostly looks like a program
[02:58] <vAd0r> do you have an example file
[02:58] <Eliyahu`> no program
[02:58] <wheatthin> vAd0r, there was an example in the link I sent you
[02:58] <craigbass1976> how do I set a static ip via the command line?  I thought /etc/network/interfaces was what I needed to edit, but I've done it through the GUI on my laptop and checked that file.  Nothing indicating any kind of static ip.
[02:58] <wheatthin> Eliyahu`, sudo updatedb    sorry
[02:59] <Eliyahu`> ok then what
[02:59] <Eliyahu`> i got a broadcast im sposed to login right now i cannot add the skype login application
[02:59] <Guest26080> carbon_guest,  MagentaMan  thx
[02:59] <Eliyahu`> and find it on the drive
[02:59] <wheatthin> Eliyahu`, then  locate skype
[02:59] <Eliyahu`> how do i locate it
[02:59] <Eliyahu`> is it in home?
[02:59] <Eliyahu`> bin?
[02:59] <wheatthin> 'locate skype'  in terminal
[02:59] <Eliyahu`> where do installs go? for skype
[03:00] <wheatthin> craigbass1976, which release are you using?
[03:02] <wheatthin> vAd0r, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[03:03] <Eliyahu`> thanks found it in usr
[03:03] <craigbass1976> wheatthin, 12.04.  My laptop is running mint, but I thought most everything under the hood was the same since I'm running the one that uses ubuntu repositories.  THe box I'm wanting to change is straight up ubuntu.
[03:04] <wheatthin> Eliyahu`, what that did was update the database for locate. So after an installation of a program, and you need to find a file, run that, then use locate.
[03:04] <wheatthin> craigbass1976, sorry brother, but mint, although it's linux, isn't supported here.
[03:04] <vAd0r> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[03:04] <vAd0r> that did not work
[03:04] <vAd0r> i can add the acpi thing
[03:05] <craigbass1976> wheatthin, what I'm wondering is how to set the ip on an ubuntu box.  I only mentioned my laptop because I tried with the GUI to set it (and did) but nothing showed up in /etc/network/interfaces  So how to do it on the ubuntu box?
[03:06] <wheatthin> craigbass1976, just one moment, booting my vm
[03:08] <thunderkey> i know this probably isn't the place for it, but i have to say I FREAKING LOVE UBUNTU.  In windows, when trying to author a DVD movie, it took 3 pieces of software, with Ubuntu, just a couple of commands using bombono and its good.
[03:08] <craigbass1976> wheatthin, http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/windows-vs-ubuntu-12-04-setup-static-ip-addresses-from-the-command-line/ sounds legit, but I'm not onsite, so if I screw it up I won't be able to fix it until tomorrow evening (18-19 hours from now)
[03:09] <craigbass1976> thunderkey, welcome aboard.
[03:09] <thunderkey> thanks craigbass1976
[03:12] <wheatthin> craigbass1976, looks legit, just substitute your info
[03:12] <wheatthin> don't forget to set your dns in /etc/resolv.conf
[03:12] <tpw_rules> i'm having an issue where i keep getting an error relating to unathorized permission swhenevr i try and mount a drive
[03:13] <tpw_rules> so i can't mount any flash drive I plug in without sudoing in the terminal
[03:13] <thunderkey> what is the best program to monitor cpu speed, temperature, that kind of thing?
[03:14] <wheatthin> tpw_rules, only root can mount, unless you make an additional statement in /etc/fstab
[03:14] <wheatthin> thunderkey, you can try   'sensors'
[03:14] <tpw_rules> wheatthin: i never had this issue before
[03:15] <thunderkey> wheatthin, thanks i will give it a shot now.
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> thunderkey, I use lm-sensors and a conky myself, best is a subjective
[03:15] <tpw_rules> it started after i upgraded packages
[03:15] <thunderkey> wilee-nilee, understood.
[03:16] <birdsnacks> hi, i've been running unattended upgrades for months and everything has been fine, now it appears to have broken with the following http://dpaste.com/1459249/ can anyone advise me how to proceed (using -f doesn't help)
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> birdsnacks, why is the terminal in root, and have you installed kernels yourself?
[03:18] <birdsnacks> i just sudo bash'd
[03:18] <birdsnacks> uhm i haven't manually done anything to this box, i've installed kernels myself before, but not on this system
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> birdsnacks, try apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:19] <birdsnacks> same fault
[03:19] <birdsnacks> wonder if i can roll back to 3.2.0.55.65
[03:19] <maujhsn> When I use to drag my "mouse of an audio file it auditioned and I could hear the file with my speakers! Now I can't. What do I need to do to correct this issue?
[03:19] <wheatthin> birdsnacks, sounds like an interrupted update
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> birdsnacks, just seems strange that you have a sligtly higher kernel than is the upgrade is all.
[03:20] <birdsnacks> i haven't done a dist upgrade, system has had unattended updates running, it's just a web server that i never do anything special on
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> birdsnacks, what does uname -a show
[03:20] <comptroller> I am getting an error message: "com.canonical.indicator.datetime In order to work properly, Unity Tweak Tool recommends you install the necessary packages" Does anyone know how I fix this? I use Ubuntu 13.10
[03:20] <birdsnacks> Linux xxx.com 3.2.0-54-generic #82-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 20:09:12 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> birdsnacks, Not sure myself exactly.
[03:21] <wheatthin> ahh, birdsnacks did you install something using a ppa?
[03:21] <Rallias> What's the smallest server install disk I can get for 13.10 amd64?
[03:22] <vAd0r> Ad0r> i just added it to /etc/default/grub
[03:22] <vAd0r> i just added it to /etc/default/grub
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, The net install is the smallest.
[03:22] <vAd0r> is that the only place as it did not work
[03:22] <Rallias> wilee-nilee, Unfortunately, the datacenter I'm working with refuses to fix the network interface.
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> 30 mb
[03:23] <wheatthin> vAd0r, There used to be a grub.cfg and a menu.lst  I'm not sure which is current
[03:23] <Rallias> They say "e3 v3 proc's don't work with debian-based OS's"
[03:24] <birdsnacks> wheatthin: what's that?
[03:24] <wheatthin> birdsnacks, a ppa is an external repo other than ubuntu's defaults
[03:24] <vAd0r> wird
[03:24] <vAd0r> weird
[03:25] <birdsnacks> no, all i've got in my sources is ubuntu.com and my hosting provides ubuntu mirrors
[03:25] <vAd0r> i hit enter and was able to just type letters and then tried ctrl alt delete now i see my login:
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, fits on a cd http://releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/
[03:27] <Rallias> wilee-nilee, Is there any way I can make that smaller? I'm working off of IPMI and it's really ******* slow.
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, I'm not up on servers personally you might try #ubuntu-server if no one knows here.
[03:28] <wheatthin> birdsnacks, then I'd think you'd need to run a release update, but I'd ask wilee-nilee
[03:29] <craigbass1976> wheatthin, that no worky...
[03:29] <wheatthin> even after updating grub menu config?
[03:30] <wheatthin> craigbass1976, once you update grub, it should boot you back into the previous kernel, and allow you to uninstall the newer kernel
[03:31] <craigbass1976> wheatthin, eh?  I didn't think grub was involved in making a static ip.  I think you've got the wrong guy
[03:31] <wheatthin> craigbass1976, my bad :/
[03:31] <wheatthin> craigbass1976, ahh yeah you were the guy with the link I said was cool
[03:32] <comptroller> I am getting an error message: "com.canonical.indicator.datetime In order to work properly, Unity Tweak Tool recommends you install the necessary packages" Does anyone know how I fix this? I use Ubuntu 13.10
[03:32] <wheatthin> after adding the static info, just 'sudo service networking restart'.. make sure that /etc/resolv.conf is statically set.
[03:34] <wheatthin> craigbass1976, sorry man, it was birdsnacks whom i was mixing you up with.
[03:35] <cpined> hello, can someone please help with a dpkg issue?
[03:35] <wheatthin> cpined, can you paste your issue?
[03:35] <lkthomas> hey guys, what should I do if I want to install latest version of virt-manager? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> comptroller, maybe this is relevant https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1130926
[03:36] <craigbass1976> and I think I found that I need to edit /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/xxx where xx is the name of the interface.  THat's what it looks like on my laptop anyway, havent gotten into the Ubuntu box to look yet.
[03:36] <cpined> wheatthin: this is hanging- wine-browser-installer: downloading http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-22.0&os=win&lang=en-US
[03:37] <wheatthin> craigbass1976, once you edit the networking thingy, when you restart networking service it'll change to unmanaged, meaning it'll then be statically changed
[03:37] <craigbass1976> wheatthin, networking thingy...  heh
[03:38] <cpined> wheatthin:first I tried installing netflix-desktop and was getting that error...then I managed to remove the partial install so I thought that i needed to install wine first...so I installed wine1.7 and am getting that same error.
[03:38] <cpined> so I was hoping to install wine1.6 but I can't seem to get out of this partial wine1.7 install...it's like an endless loop :(
[03:38] <wheatthin> craigbass1976, /etc/network/interface
[03:39] <wheatthin> s
[03:39] <bakhtiyor> Hi there
[03:39] <craigbass1976> wheatthin, I'm a little curious as to why there are three entries, and none of them seem to relate to eth0, eth1, eth2 or anything.  They're all called something like Wired Connection.
[03:39] <birdsnacks> no space on /boot will do it, just followed this and got 500mb free or so http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/ubuntu-cleanup-how-to-remove-all-unused-linux-kernel-headers-images-and-modules/
[03:39] <birdsnacks> well i modified it a bit, but trap for new players
[03:39] <birdsnacks> i don't have many ubuntu servers
[03:40] <wheatthin> craigbass1976, that's network manager for you.
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> birdsnacks, A boot partition is not really needed, not sure why people still use them.
[03:41] <birdsnacks> wilee-nilee, i inherited these 5 ubuntu servers, i don't tend to run ubuntu
[03:41] <birdsnacks> so they are as-is
[03:41] <birdsnacks> anyway glad i sorted that out, that was a concern
[03:42] <bakhtiyor> My ProBook 4530s' wifi doesn't work in Ubuntu 12.10 64-bit
[03:42] <birdsnacks> thanks for your help wilee-nilee
[03:42] <bakhtiyor> Any solutions?
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> bakhtiyor, Can you run lspci and nale the hardware?
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> name*
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> bakhtiyor, The wifi hardware that is.
[03:46] <bakhtiyor> @wilee-nilee Look at please https://gist.github.com/hbakhtiyor/7443360
[03:47] <wheatthin> bakhtiyor, is your wifi built in or usb?
[03:47] <bakhtiyor> built-in
[03:48] <wheatthin> doesn't look present.
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> bakhtiyor, realteks can be a pain if gotten to work at all at times, all I can do is give you some links. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=RTL8111%2F8168B
[03:50] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, is that an ethernet and wifi device in one? usually they'll be seperate
[03:51] <bakhtiyor> I don't know
[03:55] <bakhtiyor> my hp has many problem with ubuntu. cooler works hardly
[03:55] <tjj> Can anyone explain exactly what goes on in matplotlib's blit function?
[03:56] <tjj> sorry wrong channel
[03:58] <fernando> Hey!
[03:59] <fernando> Hola a todos
[03:59] <jmgk> hi
[03:59] <jmgk> fernando:
[03:59] <jmgk> hola
[03:59] <beardtree> When I use my mouse in elinks via gnome-terminal, everything works; however, when I go to a terminal by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1, elinks won't let me use the mouse. I have gpm installed. What does gnome-terminal have that Ctrl+Alt+F1 doesn't?
[03:59] <fernando> hola jmgk
[03:59] <fernando> here are you from
[04:00] <Eliyahu`> wheatthin:  thank you it helpedme last minute to login to our radio broadcast
[04:00] <Eliyahu`> i couldnt find the program and it wouldnty log me into our live radio
[04:00] <cpined> wheatthin:could it be that the url that downloads firefox.exe is not responding?
[04:00] <bakhtiyor> Thanks all
[04:01] <cpined> wine-browser-installer: downloading http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-22.0&os=win&lang=en-US
[04:01] <cpined>  ---- I clicked on the url and it is trying to download firefox22.0.exe but it just waits
[04:02] <ObrienDave> my D/L started
[04:03] <jgcampbell300> hello, can anyone tell me the name of some software that will allow me to plug my android phone into ubuntu with usb and get my pictures and other info from or to the phone
[04:03] <ObrienDave> airdroid
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> jgcampbell300, what ubuntu release?
[04:03] <jgcampbell300> 12
[04:04] <jgcampbell300> hmm maybe 13 on this one let me check
[04:04] <jgcampbell300> crap forgot how to check
[04:04] <ObrienDave> airdroid works great. playstore
[04:05] <hitsujiTMO> jgcampbell300: cat /etc/issue
[04:05] <jgcampbell300> there it is ... its 13.10 desk
[04:05] <ulamspiral> hi, all. i recently installed some updates in 12.04, and now my computer just boots to a black screen. can anyone help?
[04:06] <jgcampbell300> i see it shows up in lsusb but dosnt mount it ... on windows i jut plug it in and it works ... would like to make it that eas y
[04:06] <chris901> hello
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> jgcampbell300, have to ticked the developers options USB debugging 13,10 should work.
[04:06] <jgcampbell300> not sure i follow you Wilee
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> jgcampbell300, android-settings-developers options-USB debugging
[04:07] <chris901> why are we here?
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> the trill
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> thrill, hehe
[04:08] <kevin> hey guys. so i recently upgraded from precise to saucy, and i lost my gnome classic login environment. now when i search for "ubuntu 13.10 gnome" all i find is information about that new official ubuntu gnome derivative. can anybody help me find out how to get gnome classic back on my lightdm launcher? ie, get rid of unity or whatever its called
[04:08] <kevin> i did see http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/install-gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-13-10/ but that package gnome-session-fallback isn't found
[04:08] <jgcampbell300> ahh think i found it
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> kevin, directly to saucy or through the other two between?
[04:09] <jgcampbell300> does this open my computer or phone to any security problems
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> jgcampbell300, no
[04:09] <kevin> wilee-nilee: i did incremental via do-release-upgrade
[04:10] <jgcampbell300> ok ... so with that on .. i should be able to plug in and access right ? or do i need changes on ubuntu as well
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> kevin, I have the shell installed the classic/fallback comes with it, unity is not really removable in any efficient way the classic uses gnome 3 so does unity from the plugin in compiz.
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> jgcampbell300, Should plug and work, the phone will prompt you have the screen up.
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> may or may not prompt
[04:11] <chris901> are there any programmers in here?
[04:12] <zerowaitstate>  programmers of what?
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> chris901, This is support do you have an issue?
[04:12] <KnownSyntax> What language?
[04:12] <chris901> edubuntu?
[04:12] <jgcampbell300> lol the phone wants me to put google services on it ... im hopeing thats not part of what im trying to do becouse goggle services drains battery
[04:12] <chris901> Ultimate Edition?
[04:12] <chris901> C+
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> jgcampbell300, This a rooted phone?
[04:13] <kevin> wilee-nilee: alright, thanks. i'll look at installing gnome-shell and hopefully i'll see gnome classic. thanks
[04:13] <jgcampbell300> no it is not rooted
[04:13] <ObrienDave> jgcampbell300, try airdroid in the playstore. it works through your web browser. you might have to install MTP support from the repos
[04:13] <darkelfjuggalo> i am running ubuntu unity on 13.10...i restarted my computer and now my sound is shut off... vol controll is maxed, so i looked at the sound settings... Output is all the way down and greyed out so i cannot change it... any ideas why?
[04:13] <chris901> if I root my AT&T phone...will it still send and recieve calls and text?
[04:14] <jmgk> hi all
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> jgcampbell300, You sure its not a update for google services, did you have it off?
[04:15] <jgcampbell300> ya i dumped alot of googles stuff ... they have a flaw in services that makes my battery die in like 2-4 hours
[04:15] <jgcampbell300> wilee-nilee, with it off my phone will last for days
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> chris901, This is ubuntu support, how is an ATT phone related?
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> jgcampbell300, Ah strange, needs a new battery eh, android would need those services at least to download and use probably.
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> airdroid that is
[04:17] <ObrienDave> jgcampbell300, you familiar with XDA-Developers?
[04:17] <jmgk> hey
[04:17] <jgcampbell300> wilee-nilee, not new battery ... been through 3 batteries and no one could fix it ... after days of reading i fould people with same problem and once i removed google stuff one by one i finaly hit on that was draining my battery
[04:17] <jgcampbell300> ObrienDave, no i am not
[04:18] <cpined> has anyone seen wine-browser-installer hang?
[04:18] <jgcampbell300> hmm i wonder if there is a motorla portal for ubuntu
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> jgcampbell300, strange I have a htc dna not the best battery but if not used hevaily I get about 3 days.
[04:19] <ObrienDave> jgcampbell300, http://forum.xda-developers.com/ find your phone and carrier in the forums. excellent help source for all things Android
[04:20] <jgcampbell300> wilee-nilee, ya im using a photon and was great till i put google services on it ... dont konw what happend but once gone it went back to working fine
[04:20] <jgcampbell300> ObrienDave, cool thanks
[04:20] <alkhal> I'm on 64bit ubuntu 13.10. I was trying to install ia32-libs-gtk, but read somewhere that I instead need to install lib-gtk2.0-0:i386. Doing so requires me to install a ton of other i386 packages, including gcc-4.8-base:i386. Is this safe? Will it replace my 64bit gcc?
[04:21] <vAd0r> how do i specify the next directory down in a path
[04:21] <vAd0r> from my current position
[04:21] <ObrienDave> alkhal, it will be fine. it is just 32bit support libraries. some programs require them
[04:22] <vAd0r> what i am trying is not working. i know ./ is current directy and file but how do i go say to the next directory
[04:22] <alkhal> Thanks ObrienDave
[04:22] <jmgk> hi
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> vAd0r: there is no operator for "next directory" you need to specify it by name ../FooBar
[04:23] <ObrienDave> jmgk, you will find people here respond well if you ASK a question
[04:23] <vAd0r> that one goes back down and to another
[04:23] <vAd0r> i want to go say forward
[04:23] <theleft> maybe he is just saying hi ObrienDave
[04:24] <Danato> can anybody give me a brief explanation of how does the linux kernel is passed to ubuntu? Since I dont think its completely made by ubuntu devs, is it something like android that is developed by google then adapted by manufacturers to their own phones?
[04:24] <ObrienDave> yes, many times ;)
[04:24] <Danato> I know its not a tech support, but its a curiosity
[04:24] <vAd0r> EX /home/username/labs/ine is where i am located. i want to goto /home/username/labs/ine/working without having to type the whole thing
[04:24] <vAd0r> from within a file
[04:24] <hitsujiTMO> vAd0r: working
[04:25] <vAd0r> dang it i tried
[04:25] <vAd0r> let me try again
[04:25] <alkhal> vAd0r, cd working
[04:25] <vAd0r> that is from the prompt
[04:25] <vAd0r> i have a file im running
[04:25] <jgcampbell300> running out of time .. how would i mount this "Bus 004 Device 011: ID 22b8:7087 Motorola PCS "
[04:26] <vAd0r> *** Warning:  Could not set working directory to working on server localhost:7200
[04:26] <Anonynimity> Does anyone know where I would be able to buy a 3.5 mm Female AUX to USB 2.0 Male adapter?
[04:26] <Anonynimity> I need something that would support my headset
[04:27] <Anonynimity> single 3.55 mm jack with mic and headphones
[04:27] <ObrienDave> Anonynimity, that wont work afaik
[04:27] <Anonynimity> why wouldn't it work?
[04:28] <ObrienDave> Anonynimity, headset, microphone signals are analog, USB is a different animal
[04:29] <hitsujiTMO> Anonynimity: something like: http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Original-Logitech-USB-To-3-5-mm-Jack-Audio-Adapter-New-/161078780057?pt=UK_Headsets&hash=item25810b2099
[04:29] <ObrienDave> well, hush my fingers ;))
[04:30] <AceBlade258> lenovo laptops, as well as most (if not all) smartphones
[04:30] <bjh_> hi
[04:30] <Anonynimity> something like that hitsujiTMO but the issue is I only have 1 male jack from my earbud-headset
[04:30] <Anonynimity> which covers the microphone and the ear pieces
[04:30] <AceBlade258> support TRRRS
[04:30] <Anonynimity> I support TR's
[04:30] <AceBlade258> sorry, thought i typed that
[04:30] <Anonynimity> TR's are a good thing.
[04:31] <ulamspiral> hi everyone
[04:31] <AceBlade258> Tip Ring Ring Ring Sleeve
[04:31] <ulamspiral> my computer is booting to black screen. can anyone help me?
[04:31] <bjh_> i often hear about TIZEN
[04:31] <AceBlade258> type of connector. TRRS is stereo headphones/microphones, and TRS is mono
[04:32] <bjh_> Canonical. Is there plan to join tizen?
[04:32] <vAd0r> lol
[04:32] <vAd0r> mine did that too
[04:32] <vAd0r> just hit enter
[04:32] <hitsujiTMO> Anonynimity: have a look on ebay for one, if it's going to be anywhere it's there
[04:32] <Anonynimity> ohhh okay AceBlade258....
[04:32] <Anonynimity> I may have to make one eh hitsujiTMO?
[04:33] <hitsujiTMO> ObrienDave: those devices are essentially usb soundcards
[04:33] <AceBlade258> i must correct myself: TS, TRS, and TRRS.
[04:33] <bjh_> where is jono bacon?
[04:33] <Anonynimity> okay... TRs have more than one meaning to me...
[04:33] <Anonynimity> sorry about the misunderstanding
[04:33] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Hello all :P
[04:33] <AceBlade258> Anonynimity: does yours have a button on the mic?
[04:34] <ObrienDave> hitsujiTMO, yep, figured they have DAC and ADC chips in there somewhere
[04:34] <Anonynimity> yes it does AceBlade258... sec
[04:34] <vAd0r> ulamspiral: did you try hitting enter
[04:34] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> psilocybin: Aye!
[04:34] <AceBlade258> you won't be able to make one. you'll have to get one that supports it.
[04:34] <ulamspiral> vAd0r: yes, that doesn't appear to be helping
[04:34] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> PsilOcybin*
[04:34] <vAd0r> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[04:34] <Anonynimity> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat13506&type=page&skuId=3035177&productId=1218374268900&defurl=false&viewtype=angleView&h=504 @ AceBlade258
[04:35] <vAd0r> the other thing i did is boot to recovery and edit the /etc/default/grub and put GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset acpi_osi=\"linux\""
[04:35] <AceBlade258> Anonynimity: yeah, you won't be able to make that
[04:35] <Anonynimity> I don't really care about the button working or not AceBlade258... I just need the connector
[04:35] <vAd0r> then sudo update-grub
[04:36] <AceBlade258> yeah, but the button is usually an sdi of some kind
[04:36] <AceBlade258> I'm not exactly sure how it works.
[04:36] <vAd0r> it did the thing where it starts to boot and screen goes black. this time i just hit enter and it finally came up and i can ssh in now
[04:36] <Anonynimity> sdi Aceblade258?
[04:36] <AceBlade258> Anonynimity: Serial/Digital Interface
[04:36] <AceBlade258> Anonynimity: if you just want audio they will work fine
[04:37] <AceBlade258> in any jack
[04:37] <Anonynimity> The button pauses music while it's playing on my phone... it hangs up calls, and it mutes the mic while in a call AceBlade258....
[04:37] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> I have a nice Anonymous logo as my wallpaper :3
[04:37] <Anonynimity> let me explain... I'm kind of poor right now... and I have these headphones... I'm starting a job for a work - at - home customer service agent.
[04:37] <Anonynimity> I need a usb headset
[04:38] <AceBlade258> Yeah... you'll probably have to buy a cheap headset
[04:38] <ulamspiral> okay, in grub i've selected boot to recovery mode, but not sure what to do from here. not very experienced at this stuff
[04:38] <Anonynimity> since I have these headphones with built in mic... I figured I could get an adapter and make it work
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> Anonynimity: maybe add a trrs splitter http://www.ebay.ie/itm/3-5mm-4-Position-TRRS-Female-to-2x-3-Position-TRS-Male-Headset-Splitter-Adapter-/281205828772?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item41792c6ca4
[04:39] <ObrienDave> he would need both adapters
[04:39] <Anonynimity> that could work hitsujiTMO... thank you
[04:39] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Is thee any App for Android to control Ubuntu from afar?
[04:40] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> there*
[04:40] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Specifically Android Gingerbread.
[04:40] <AceBlade258> Anonynimity: that'll work, as long as the mic is analog (it probably is)
[04:40] <hitsujiTMO> IcanhazUbuntuplz: plenty of ssh and vnc clients for android
[04:40] <Paulus68_1> IcanhazUbuntuplz: even teamviewer will do the trick
[04:40] <Anonynimity> I think the mic is analog AceBlade258... the button has some functions, but not many
[04:42] <Eliyahu> hello i got ubuntu 13.10 running on an intel atom D510MO and the audio we recorded through our system sounds like talking in a tin can
[04:43] <AceBlade258> a fun problem I'm not sure how to fix: I installed server from a usb thumb drive. The installer put part of the bootloader on my thumb drive, due to my negligance
[04:44] <vAd0r> what file do i put something like dynamips -H 7200 &  in to autostart
[04:44] <theleft> AceBlade258, reinstall?
[04:44] <theleft> or move to bootloader ey
[04:44] <theleft> but if it is a new install why not be lazy and just do it again?
[04:44] <hitsujiTMO> AceBlade258: reinstall the bootloader to the right drive. whar drive do you want it on?
[04:45] <hitsujiTMO> AceBlade258: id its sda then: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[04:46] <AceBlade258> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[04:49] <ulamspiral> vAd0r: i added nomodeset to the kernel boot options, and now i'm stuck on the plymouth screen. enter is still not helping. ideas?
[04:50] <Danato> hey how can I make my clock show the local time instead of the universal time?
[04:50] <Danato> Its showing UTC
[04:50] <kevin> alriiiiiiiight so i recently upgraded to saucy and now some of the (default) gedit plugins don't work. I try to enable "External Tools" and i get in the console:  "Could not find any typelib for Gedit" and "ImportError: cannot import name Gedit" ... any idea why this would happen? i see on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+question/158045 that they say "Gedit default plugins are already updated, but you need to install
[04:50] <kevin>  the correct version (3.x)" but i don't know why installing from repo would install an incorrect version of the plugin
[04:51] <kevin> and i did a purge & install of gedit, btw
[04:51] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
 i already did that
[04:53] <Eliyahu> nobody have any suggestions about sound recording sounds like you are in a tin can?
[04:53] <Eliyahu> how to fix this problem
[04:53] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: o.O and System Settings -> Time & Date are all correct?
 My time zone is correct, but my clock is only showing the universal time instead
[04:53] <Eliyahu> we do radio broadcasting and the audio quality is trash
[04:54] <MrKappa> hello i'm trying to install ubuntu by usb, but when it boots i only see three options (test memory, boot from first hard disk, rescue a broken system)
[04:54] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: and the output of: date           is your correct timezone?
 yup
[04:55] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: hmm. unsure what would cause that
[04:57] <hitsujiTMO> MrKappa: how did you make the usb?
[04:57] <MrKappa> I made it on windows 8
[04:57] <Jinxy> As root, can I find out another user's password? Or change it?
[04:57] <hitsujiTMO> MrKappa: with what tool tho?
[04:57] <MrKappa> with the reccomended program
[04:58] <MrKappa> one sed
[04:58] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> How to connect to Ubuntu through VNC on Android?
[04:58] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> I need an Address. How2find IP address?
[04:59] <MrKappa> universal usb installer, pen drive linux
[04:59] <mbrigdan> Hello! I've tried to copy ubuntu over to an ssd (cp -ax /source /dest, then an edit to fstab), but the copy boots to a black screen. I see some of the initial boot stuff, but then it just goes completely blank (can't get to ttys, no response to anything except SysRq-B)
[04:59] <mbrigdan> Anyone know how I can get it working?
[04:59] <shroomduke> I have 2 screen savers running, is there a way to choose one
 ifconfig
[04:59] <hitsujiTMO> MrKappa: that doesn't work for most. use either unetbootin or http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[05:00] <MrKappa> alright
[05:00] <MrKappa> will try that, thanks !!!
*interminal
[05:00] <ospf> lol derp
[05:00] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Oh
[05:00] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> So my username@Hostname?
[05:01] <hitsujiTMO> !vnc | IcanhazUbuntuplz lets see if ubottu has a guide
[05:01] <TunaFish2> Is there a way to trigger immediate dhcpdiscover?
[05:01] <TheyTookErJobs> Question: If I installed ubuntu without Virtualization turned on in the BIOS but turned it on later.. Do I need to run any commands to get the kernel to recognize it's been enabled? I am trying to install a 64bit distro in VirtualBox and it keeps telling me I need a 32bit
[05:01] <whoever> IcanhazUbuntuplz: roll as apk and run http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6064510/how-to-get-ip-address-of-the-device
[05:02] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> whoever; I'm trying to control Ubuntu through a VNC app on the phone.
[05:02] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> :P
[05:02] <whoever> IcanhazUbuntuplz: so whats the prob
[05:03] <hitsujiTMO> TheyTookErJobs: nope, enabling vt-x does not need any reconfig in the host os
[05:03] <TheyTookErJobs> hitsujiTMO, thank you for answering :) I didn't think so but wanted to double-check
[05:03] <whoever> IcanhazUbuntuplz: install client on android and connect
So you're trying to find the ip of the ubuntu box?
[05:04] <hitsujiTMO> TheyTookErJobs: what's the output of: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:04] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> WHoever: Did that and ospf: yes
[05:04] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> I need a nickname, address password etc for android-vnc-viewer
[05:04] <Eliyahu> do we have any sound guys here who understand audio problems within 13.10?
[05:04] <whoever> IcanhazUbuntuplz: that is done in te settings
[05:05] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> whoever: Yes I'm on the settings..
[05:05] <JordanJ2>  I am getting the error: gzip: stdin: not in gzip format. While trying to unzip a tar.gz file with tar -zxvf <filename>
[05:05] <unpopsicle> does ubuntu touch have that desktop mode yet?
[05:06] <hitsujiTMO> unpopsicle: #ubuntu-touch
[05:06] <unpopsicle> hitsujiTMO: thanks buddy
[05:06] <JordanJ2> Anyone know why?
[05:06] <JordanJ2> (Ubuntu 12.94)
[05:07] <JordanJ2> 12.04*
[05:07] <ElvisXiong> hello
[05:07] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: i would guess that its a corrupt archive
[05:07] <ElvisXiong> hi
[05:07] <ObrienDave> TheyTookErJobs, did you install the 64bit Vbox?
[05:08] <TheyTookErJobs> Obrien, I did. I've probably just gotta find a setting in Vbox to pass on the 64bitness
[05:08] <TheyTookErJobs> hitsujiTMO, I'm working on getting it on the pastebin right now
[05:09] <Eliyahu`> is there a channel for ubuntu audio?
[05:09] <ObrienDave> weird, never had Vbox ask me that question
[05:09] <TheyTookErJobs> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6409029
In terminal type sudo ifconfig  for the ip it will be the inet addr if it's  wired = eth0 and wireless = wlan0  and whoami to find the nickname.
[05:10] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Eliyahu what is your issue?
[05:11] <hitsujiTMO> TheyTookErJobs: it seems vt-x hasn't actually been enabled. can you recheck your bios
[05:12] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: found the solution to the clock thing
[05:12] <TheyTookErJobs> That's my problem hitsujiTMO, I've triple-checked. It's enabled.
[05:12] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: what was the problem?
[05:13] <hitsujiTMO> TheyTookErJobs: have a look for a bios update maybe. check on manufacturers forums to see if its a common issue
[05:13] <Eliyahu`> IcanhazUbuntuplz:  im on ubuntu 13.10 on my intel atom D510MO and my audio i ran through my switchboard played through the audio drives and sounds like its recorded in a tin can
[05:14] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: had to right click the clock, go to time zone and set the option "Clock defaults to:" Local
[05:15] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: ahh i see, didn't realise it had its own tz setting
[05:16] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: same, but idk when did I ever change it
[05:16] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Eliyahu: Hmm.
[05:17] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> I'm not sure. I just fix things as they happen XD
[05:17] <Eliyahu`> IcanhazUbuntuplz:  i think its the input amplification to be honest
[05:18] <Eliyahu`> IcanhazUbuntuplz:  i just messed iwth the pulse mixer and set the input amplification and its soundig clear
[05:18] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Eliyahu: It may be
[05:18] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Eliyahu` if that fixed your problem, I'd keep it like that(:
[05:18] <Eliyahu`> IcanhazUbuntuplz:  ;)
[05:19] <Eliyahu`> IcanhazUbuntuplz:  thanks for putting forth effort to help that is appriciated
[05:19] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Eliyahu` Thats what we're here for. (:
[05:19] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I aint jumping to 13.10 like everyone else. I just jump from LTS to LTS.
[05:21] <Eliyahu`> IcanhazUbuntuplz:  wish i had fuond that  before an hour long broadcast
[05:21] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Eliyahu' Yeahh. :P
[05:23] <Jinxy> How can I get an absolute path to where I currently am inside ubuntu?
[05:23] <Jinxy> on the command line?
[05:23] <ospf> pwd
[05:23] <hitsujiTMO> Jinxy: pwd
[05:24] <Jinxy> thanks
[05:24] <vAd0r> when i run lspci i see all my pci nics. how can i enable them?
[05:25] <Danato> IcanhazUbuntuplz: do you mind to tell why would 12.04LTS be better? I'm jst asking because im a curious noob lol
[05:26] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Danato: LTS releases get supported for quite awhile, major bugs to me are mostly worked out.
[05:26] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Danato: Reg releases are only supported for 9 mo's.
[05:27] <cfhowlett> Danato, 13.10 has a 9 month life span.  12.04 is Long Term Supported for 5 years on the desktop plus LTS generally has more bug fixes than bleeding edge versions.
[05:27] <nv_> index.php pages are not loading by default. instead i am getting a directory listing. what can i do to fix this?
[05:27] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> 5 years of awesomeness :3
[05:27] <JordanJ2> Now, I am try to execute the script with ./<filename>
[05:27] <nibbler> nv_: configure your apache (or whomever) to use index.php as default
[05:27] <JordanJ2> Tells me not found
[05:27] <Danato> IcanhazUbuntuplz: so LTS' may have fixes for bugs not yet fixed on the new releases?
[05:28] <nibbler> JordanJ2: then it has another name or is not in your current directory
[05:28] <cfhowlett> Danato, there's more commitment to keeping LTS fixed and running as opposed to the shortlife releases.  IMO.
[05:28] <JordanJ2> In current directory has same filename.. :/
[05:28] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Danato: Possibly the LTS could have been before the bug appeared in 13.10.
[05:28] <nv_> nibbler, where is the setting?
[05:29] <Danato> IcanhazUbuntuplz: thats true
[05:30] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Lol it was such a hard decision for me to decide which distro I wanted to stick with long term.
[05:30] <JordanJ2> bash: ./<filename>: No such file or directory
[05:30] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> So many flavors of Linux it makes my head spin. o.o
[05:30] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: does the file have execute permission?
[05:30] <Danato> So whats on the other hand? what comes with the new releases?
[05:31] <ospf> I love PinguyOS but Ubuntu has some great features.
[05:31] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> OSPF: To me the top bar of Ubuntu reminds me of Mac OsX
[05:32] <JordanJ2> I also did chmod +x <fileame>
[05:32] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> OSX*
Yeah
[05:33] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> I brought me an Ouya :D
[05:33] <ospf> Nice
[05:33] <JordanJ2> But I still get that error
[05:35] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: can you pastebin the output of: ls -l    and type the exact command you're using to execute the script
[05:37] <jnpplf> I've just cloned /dev/sda to /dev/sdb, and now in gparted it's showing sda6 and sdb6 both as being mounted on / - is this chan the right place to ask this kind of question?
[05:37] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6409097/
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, Is sdb the first read in the bioos and did you run a update-grub in I assume ubuntu on the sdb?
[05:39] <jnpplf> I didn't update-grub because I was hoping to move the partitions on sdb first
[05:39] <jnpplf> I'm booted from sda, sdb doesn't register as mounted in mtab
[05:39] <jnpplf> (according to umount)
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, I don't know the whole story here, but is this having the dame install twicw on 2 HD or just moving it?
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> same*
[05:40] <jnpplf> I'm migrating from one drive to another
[05:40] <jnpplf> I wonder if the clone copied some device ID that gparted reads and gets confused?
[05:40] <jnpplf> I used Clonezilla, FWIW
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, Clonezilla saves the mbr all you have to do is adjust the clones to the sdb and partitions going to if you pre built them.
[05:41] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: now i'm as confused as you
[05:41] <JordanJ2> Exactly
[05:41] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: is it a binary file or script?
[05:42] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, would a couple of gparted screenshots help?
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, Sure.
[05:42] <JordanJ2> Script
[05:43] <JordanJ2> (12.04 LTS)
[05:43] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: can you pastebin the script
[05:43] <JordanJ2> Sure?
[05:43] <xmetal> hello everyone .. just taking a break from being sidetracked from what i was doing and trying to remember what the heck it was I WAS doing (PRE-sidetracked) in the first place
[05:43] <xmetal> :P
[05:43] <ObrienDave> good luck with that LOL
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> xmetal, spinning like a top?
[05:44] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, SDA: http://i.imgur.com/hdj5ePF.png - SDB: http://i.imgur.com/KxqJOdP.png
[05:44] <JordanJ2> Has a bunch of odd symbols in it, hitsujiTMO
[05:44] <xmetal> no .. though if i have enough coffee, i do, spin like a top in my office chair when  i get bored
[05:44] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: is a binary then
[05:45] <JordanJ2> How do I execute it?
[05:45] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, what I don't get is how sda6 and sdb6 can both be mounted on /, preventing me from unmounting and moving sdb6
[05:46] <jnpplf> And I use 'mounted' loosely as only gparted reports sdb6 as mounted. umount doesn't.
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, So what has been moved from sda to sdb and how did you do it. clonezilla saves the mbr so cloning it is a waste of time.
[05:46] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: can you run: strace ./sc_serv               and pastebin the output
[05:46] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, the whole drive was cloned; I don't get your second comment.
[05:47] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/wJCQUz2N
[05:47] <xmetal> <~~looking at those gparted sceencaps
[05:47] <xmetal> hmm
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf you now have two identical uuid sets this confuses grub, can you remove sda foar a moment asnd run a update-grub in the sdb?
[05:48] <jnpplf> You mean boot with sda disconnected, then run it?
[05:48] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: is this a 32bit binary by any chance?
[05:49] <JordanJ2> I have no clue
[05:49] <xmetal> i am not sure what the entries are, (or what to do exactly) but i would (as willie is already going in that direction) look at grub
[05:49] <xmetal> (i am assuming that is not a liveCD/USB running)
[05:49] <jnpplf> No, I'm running from sda
[05:49] <chris901> where are the linux programmers>
[05:49] <jnpplf> OK, unless someone stops me in the next 10 seconds I'm going to unplug sda, boot into sdb, and update grub
[05:50] <jnpplf> And hope that it generates a new UUID, I guess
[05:50] <xmetal>  #linux perhaps
[05:50] <chris901> who knows how to root an android phone?
[05:50] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Chris901: #Linux
[05:50] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Chris901: I do, I can help with that
[05:50] <cfhowlett> chris901, #nexus4 channel
[05:50] <chris901> bring it then
[05:50] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> I'll PM you
[05:50] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: i bet its a 32bit app, hence the error, you'd need the 32bit libs to get it to work i think
[05:50] <xmetal> I will butt-out now cause I am not sure what you want to do (I just got here)
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, What do you plan to do with the sda drive
[05:51] <JordanJ2> Can you tell me how to install that>
[05:51] <ObrienDave> chris901, find what you need on XDA-Developers
[05:51] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> How do I PM again? lmao. I forgot XD
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> chris901, This is ubuntu support go to #android-root
[05:51] <JordanJ2> You can /msg <user>
[05:51] <xmetal> so sdb is what they want as linux, but it's still seeing sda1 as linux and locking it? (I am really saying it in basic terms)
[05:52] <xmetal> actually its seeing sda1 and sdb1 as root?
[05:52] <xmetal> sorry i confused myself now
[05:52] <xmetal> :P
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> !who | xmetal
[05:52] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> !tab
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> chris901, Can you understand that this is ubuntu support?
[05:54] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: maybe try http://download.nullsoft.com/shoutcast/tools/sc_serv2_linux_x64_07_31_2011.tar.gz instead
[05:56] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, when this is done, I plan to throw it out of a window ;)
[05:57] <jnpplf> I imagine it will get wiped and used as spare capacity for my Windows install, not bootable or anything
[05:57] <jnpplf> sdb is a larger drive, simply trying to replace sda, but I need to resize the partitions on sdb for that to be a worthwhile exercise.
[05:57] <jnpplf> I disconnected sda, booted into sdb, ran update grub, problem persists - both sda6 and sdb6 appear in gparted as mounted on /
[05:58] <xmetal> i say something is grub is still pointing to sda1 (others in here can put it much better then I can :P )
[05:59] <xmetal> oops ... sda6
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, can you run in the sdb ubuntu sudo blkid -l with the sda not attached?
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, By the way when you remove sda sdb becomes sda
[05:59] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, I am aware
[05:59] <jnpplf> Referring to the original drive names for your benefit :)
[05:59] <xmetal> true .. otherwise we all can get confused
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, I think you have the original sda mbr in sdg and that is the issue, so we are going to load that grub on that clone to it's mbr.
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> sdb*
[06:00] <Bonkdonk> hey guys, I just installed ubuntu(13.10) onto my macbook air and now I can no longer boot into my mac partition
[06:01] <shroomduke> everytime I unplug or plug in my power my Display settings program pops up
[06:01] <Bonkdonk> when I go from grub to mac 64 it goes to the purplish screen of ubuntu and just stops
[06:01] <jnpplf> sda mbr in sdb - I'm sure that's the case. Not sure what we're then 'going to do'
[06:01] <jnpplf> "load that grub on that clone to its mbr"?
[06:02] <jnpplf> Man, having a livecd would make this handy, then I could just take out sda and resize sdb to my heart's content.
[06:02] <ObrienDave> and why don't you have a live CD?
[06:02] <jnpplf> Because I'm not in the habit of using optical media
[06:03] <ObrienDave> works the same on a USB
[06:03] <xmetal> true ... .livecd/usb could make this alot easier
[06:03] <jnpplf> USB presents its own challenges for me, burning a livecd would be easier ;)
[06:03] <ianorlin> useing the media for somemthign else
[06:03] <ObrienDave> whatever
[06:03] <jnpplf> I might just go burn a livecd, see if that sorts it out
[06:03] <xmetal> well whichever is easier
[06:04] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, From the cloned ubuntu with the sda unplugged run sudo blkid and pastebin it.
[06:04] <jnpplf> Might take a little while but less chance of me screwing something up.
[06:04] <xmetal> i know my old laptop cant boot to usb
[06:04] <xmetal> anything
[06:04] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, you don't think burning off a disc would be easier?
[06:04] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, no
[06:04] <jnpplf> Excellent. Then back in a tick.
[06:05] <svector> Hello
[06:05] <nv_> hi
[06:06] <svector> fixed my boot time darkscreen issue by setting nomodeset. Now the screen is dark when it wakes up from suspended state.
[06:08] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, http://pastie.org/8476648
[06:08] <jnpplf> obv. that is what we've been calling sdb
[06:08] <zack_> danny
[06:08] <firespeaker> when I try to start xorg, it hangs (is killable) and I get an error like this: gnome-settings-[6826]: segfault at 8 ip 00007fcb580eaf20 sp 00007fff4a766db0 error 4 in libpower.so[7fcb580db000+18000]
[06:09] <zack_> i can't update
[06:09] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, run sudo grub-install /dev/sda && sudo update-grub that should make you all fixed
[06:09] <zack_> i can;t i was try
[06:09] <cfhowlett> zack_, we cant help.  (details!)
[06:09] <cfhowlett> !details|zack_,
[06:09] <kakka> HI all, what does /etc/modules do
[06:10] <kakka> and what is the meaning of lp and option in it, it should be option or options?
[06:10] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, are you hoping for that to change the output of blkid?
[06:10] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, No to make sure that the grub from that clone is the bootloader in  it's mbr.
[06:11] <jnpplf> I don't understand how that makes a difference if I'm booting from sda, not sdb? Will re-attach and try it though.
[06:11] <hitsujiTMO> kakka: its a list of kernel modules that are forced to load
[06:11] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, Do not reattach sda
[06:11] <jnpplf> If I'm not booted from sda, how do I resize the partitions on sdb?
[06:11] <kakka> i know only one meaning RTC, real time clock and USBSERIAL  which load USB to serial modules at boot, but my 3g modem does not get detected automatically after reboot, i have to unplug it and plug it again, and after few seconds , my modem get detected in the modem manager, what is the problem
[06:11] <zack_> ok what can i do
[06:12] <kakka> hitsujiTMO: Yes, but what is the meaning of lp in it
[06:12] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, That you will do with a live cd, this will fix the grub boot so the cloed new drive workd correctly, so you can wipe the sda or what ever you want to do with it.
[06:12] <zack_> my password is
[06:12] <kakka> hitsujiTMO: what does it do
[06:12] <zack_> i love u
[06:12] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, OK, so onwards with the livecd plan.
[06:12] <scythe-> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! liblua5.2-0 liblua5.2-dev
[06:12] <jnpplf> Think I've got it from here then - thanks for the help.
[06:12] <scythe-> So, what's up with this?
[06:12] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, trying yes but do that command to set the mbr correct.
[06:13] <scythe-> Do I need to update some repo key or something?
[06:13] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, I did
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, no sdb right in there?
[06:13] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, I'm booted from 'sdb' right now, the original 'sda' isn't attached.
[06:13] <jnpplf> Oh, you mean in grub.cfg?
[06:13] <zack_> ok
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, When you run update-grub now you see no sdb right, I mean an actual sdb not a refernce to the drive that was sdb now sda?
[06:14] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, correct
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> this is like the marx brothers whose on first lol
[06:15] <kakka> i set usbserial to /etc/modules, which should load USB to serial modules at boot, but my 3g modem does not get detected automatically after reboot, i have to unplug it and plug it again, and after few seconds , my modem get detected in the modem manager, what is the problem, USBMODESWITCH works properly as i find from lsusb command, how to get it deteccted automatically, i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[06:15] <jnpplf> Did the marx brothers do that before abbott and costello? :)
[06:15] <firespeaker> like, Karl Marx and ... ?
[06:15] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, Cool you are set just don;t plugin the sda and run a update grub with that ubuntu still installed, and resize the clones with a live cd with the swap unmounted.
[06:15] <zack_> i have no more knowledge for Ubuntu
[06:15] <hitsujiTMO> kakka no idea what its for. are you having a problem with it?
[06:15] <zack_> but i know a little
[06:16] <zack_> sorry i can't help u
[06:16] <wilee-nilee> firespeaker, harpo cheekoo...etc
[06:16] <firespeaker> zack_: did you modprobe the module?
[06:16] <zack_> no
[06:16] <firespeaker> oh, looks like the module's inserted
[06:16] <zack_> i need it
[06:16] <firespeaker> if it shows up
[06:16] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, I'm planning to a) boot from livecd, and on 'sdb' (current drive) do the resizing. Then I'm going to disconnect it, attach 'sda', assign a new UUID, and wipe it. Then attach both, so that the old 'sda' is just uninitialized space ready for me to use for storage.
[06:16] <firespeaker> sounds like it is getting detected automatically ?
[06:17] <kakka> hitsujiTMO: no problem at all, but i am having problem with my modem, is not being recognised automatically, i have to unplug and re insert modem to get it detected in the modem-manager
[06:17] <zack_> what is sdb
[06:17] <kakka> hitsujiTMO: lsusb shows, it is properly mode switching
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, You don't have to remove the cloned drive to wipe the sda or change any uuid's there as long as the ubuntu is gone you are good.
[06:18]  * xmetal sits back with a snack and admits he got confused awhile back
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, You can plug the original drive in, and do the resize in the cloned and wipe the old one all in one fell swoop.
[06:18] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, I'm concerned that if I have both drives attached with the same UUID, and I try to wipe the old drive, it will randomly take out the new one :-/
[06:18] <serial_port> i think xubuntu desktop environment is much nicer and faster than ubuntu. what do you guys think?
[06:18] <kakka> hitsujiTMO: main problem is that, i am using the same modem to connect to, suppose i did a reboot and then my modem doesn't get detected automatically, i have to eject modem from USB port and then insert it again, it works in a way like that
[06:19] <cfhowlett> !xubuntu|serial_port,
[06:19] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Guys I'm watching man of steel over here. ON the scene with the fighter aircraft trying to shoot both Superman and gthe other guy
[06:19] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> the*
[06:19] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> ^.^
[06:19] <kakka> hitsujiTMO: i want to automate the process and extend life of USB port to some extent :D
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, Not gonna happen, just reboot and be sure grub looks right and boots to the clone and it looks like windows is there two. grub in the mbr has to have a update run to change.
[06:19] <serial_port> never liked superman
[06:22] <kakka> hitsujiTMO: i set a command usbserial in /etc/modules and it should work , but modem is not detected automatically, this is the main problem, that's it.  here are other problme also but they can be resolved later, like slow r/w speed to NTFS and slow ext4 as compared to NTFS partition, there is a big scope to improve in that areas
[06:23] <ianorlin> does bios support usb boot?
[06:24] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, See, what ever grub bootloader you had in the cloned mbr was not the one you were running the update-grub from. Linus is specific here, for example I have 3 linux on my HD if I get a kernel upgrade on any one of them I run that command I had you run to have its grub the controlling grub in the mbr.
[06:24] <wilee-nilee> Linux*
[06:25] <reisio> not a lot of good reasons to clone an MBR
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> ianorlin, If it's new enough last 5 years or so yes.
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> reisio, exactly, especially with clonezilla it does it for yah. ;)
[06:26] <reisio> clonezilla is overly complex
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> heh, I love clonezilla, but I'm sort of a psudeo noob
[06:26] <zack_> i am reading
[06:26] <zack_> i missed some words
[06:27] <reisio> rsync is all you need
[06:27] <reisio> you can backup the partition layout and dd the boot loader if you really want to
[06:27] <zack_> are  u try update my computer
[06:27] <xmetal> i have used a number of cloning tools in various os's though i admit i am a clonezilla newb here
[06:27] <wilee-nilee> true, that is another way, I think it is a matter of taste, like a fine wine. ;)
[06:28] <wilee-nilee> many ways to clone a copy paste in gparted works, and just load the mbr.
[06:29] <reisio> except I know what's going on when I run rsync
[06:29] <reisio> and you've no idea what clonezilla does :p
[06:29] <reisio> I doubt anyone does
[06:29] <wilee-nilee> true, clonezilla uses rsync
[06:30] <pogiako1> can anyone tell me what this is? 'http://loco.ubuntu.com:80'
[06:30] <pogiako1> good morning btw guys ;)
[06:31] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Morning Pogiako1:)
[06:31] <reisio> pogiako1: some Ubuntu-specific take on LUGs
[06:31] <pogiako1> morning!
[06:32] <pogiako1> yeah i found that on chrome settings, for geocloation settings
[06:32] <pogiako1> its set on default
[06:32] <pogiako1> is that a good thing?
[06:32] <pogiako1> i dont think so
[06:32] <reisio> for chrome or chromium?
[06:32] <pogiako1> chrome
[06:32] <reisio> think?
[06:32] <reisio> it's one or the other
[06:32] <reisio> it's a good thing if you like software personalized to your OS
[06:32] <reisio> and an annoying thing otherwise
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> reisio, I will say though that you know more in general than I will ever know or care to know and thats why I like you, I learn just a watchin. ;)
[06:33] <ianorlin> I wonder if there were local thing maybe you could get an alabi out of it
[06:33] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> You know, it's funny how In my high school, when we use the Laptops.. everyones running WIndows 7
[06:33] <reisio> it's true, I've travelled to the future
[06:33] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Then I'm just over here like eh, hey guys. Linux :3
[06:34] <reisio> "hang on I'll show you how much better Windows is after it reboots again!"
[06:34] <pogiako1> yeah its knda annoying haha
[06:34] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Definitely reisio
[06:34] <pogiako1> i mean ubuntu's great
[06:34] <pogiako1> but dont spy on people haha
[06:34] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Lol Canonical doesn't spy on anyone(:
[06:34] <reisio> well if it's chrome, google is spying on you
[06:34] <reisio> you should use chromium
[06:35] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> BUt true, if it is google chrome you ARE being spied on, but by Google.
[06:35] <nv_> but Amazon does
[06:35] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Along with Various government agencies.
[06:35] <reisio> linking to some home page related to a distro is par for the course
[06:35] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> and foreign goverment agencies.
[06:35] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> government*
[06:35] <reisio> even anti-bloat distros manage to waste time doing that frequently
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> "We Mean You no Harm" Google, hehe
[06:35] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Possibly even agencies on other worlds.
[06:35] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Like Krypton and stuff.
[06:35] <ianorlin> spy on you?
[06:35] <pogiako1> man people do really become evil when they've got power
[06:36] <reisio> right, but while the NSA is checking if you're saying words like 'bomb' and '911', google is tracking how to track you
[06:36] <reisio> how to sell anything to anyone at any time
[06:36] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Reisio, I actually made a status on FB about that
[06:36] <cfhowlett> reisio, and the NSA just tripped over our little IRC chat
[06:36] <reisio> whooptie doo
[06:36] <pogiako1> why dont they just do the things for themselves, whats wrong with that right? dont bother anyone but yourself and we'll have heaven on earth.
[06:36] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> I called it NSA buzzwords. We just had normal conv
[06:36] <reisio> the NSA runs symantec on Windows, they're clowns just like every other government agency
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> wave as you go through their server
[06:36] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> convos, but slipped buzzwords in D
[06:37] <serigy> where one can find Passwords and Encryption Keys in ubuntu 12.04?
[06:37] <pogiako1> btw, has anyone been to defcon 21?
[06:37] <reisio> dumbest thing a government could ever do is make an enemy of me :D
[06:37] <reisio> pogiako1: nope, but 23
[06:37] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Reisio same here
[06:37] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> XD
[06:37] <pogiako1> mudge's speech was great btw ;D
[06:37] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> I've never been to Defcon
[06:37] <pogiako1> trying to go on 22, saving on it :D
[06:38] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Pogiako1: I have an Anonymous logo as my wallpaper :D
[06:38] <pogiako1> mudge was from the hack community originally, then worked for NSA and now back to the good side :D
[06:38] <pogiako1> IcanhazUbuntuplz: nice ;)
[06:38] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> :d
[06:38] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> ;D
[06:39] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> I betcha Snowden uses Linux now.
[06:39] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> :P
[06:39] <cfhowlett> !ot
[06:39] <pogiako1> best way to explain the world now is, there are two types of people: 1. Those who just want to live their lives and 2. Those who ambitiously want to rule the world.
[06:40] <reisio> 3. reisios with napalm
[06:40] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Anyways.. I'mma look through my system and clear out space brb
[06:40] <reisio> 4. reisios with lots of napalm
[06:40] <reisio> IcanhazUbuntuplz: baobab
[06:40] <pogiako1> haha
[06:40] <pogiako1> reisios?
[06:40] <reisio> pogiako1: reisioses
[06:40] <pogiako1> btw guys, learn how to code
[06:40] <pogiako1> its not hard
[06:40] <reisio> :)
[06:41] <pogiako1> its for ur  own good too, especially we live in info age
[06:41] <meet_praveen> i installed ubuntu with 2 partition one is with mount point '/' nad another is with mount point none... but now system is so slow and restricts me to create folders without using terminal. i am logedin as admin
[06:42] <pogiako1> btw
[06:42] <pogiako1> i am thinking of getting a mohawk haha
[06:42] <pogiako1> what do u call the shaving art?
[06:42] <pogiako1> i want defcon to be shaved on my head
[06:43] <pogiako1> wtheck?
[06:43] <reisio> 'shaving art' wfm
[06:44] <pogiako1> i deleted my cookies and lost all of my account details hahaha
[06:44] <pogiako1> i ddnt know it would do that lol
[06:44] <pogiako1> shit!
[06:44] <reisio> it shouldn't
[06:44] <reisio> because cookies were never meant for that
[06:44] <reisio> but yeah it does :p
[06:44] <xmetal> <~~looking up rsync atm and commands in it
[06:44] <reisio> maybe you've just confused logged in state with account details, though
[06:45] <reisio> xmetal: rsync -av foo/ bar/
[06:45] <pogiako1> i do remember
[06:45] <reisio> or omit v for faster
[06:45] <reisio> rerun if interrupted, it'll resume
[06:45] <pogiako1> wait
[06:45] <reisio> or rerun just to see it say it did everything already
[06:45] <reisio> -ap for extra attention to permissions
[06:45] <pogiako1> yup
[06:45] <pogiako1> i cleared my cookies and site data
[06:45] <pogiako1> hahah
[06:46] <reisio> my browser is configured to do that every time it starts
[06:46] <reisio> except for a few utility cookies I always want set
[06:46] <reisio> and sites I use frequently
[06:46] <reisio> (for login state, not personal data)
[06:47] <pogiako1> haha oh well, knda of new life :D
[06:47] <reisio> it's good to start from zero every now and then
[06:47] <pogiako1> yup, to get rid of shit and stuff
[06:48] <reisio> to get perspective :p
[06:48] <pogiako1> btw, barnaby jack is my hero
[06:48] <pogiako1> such an amazing guy
[06:48] <reisio> why's that
[06:49] <pogiako1> do u know him/
[06:49] <pogiako1> ?
[06:49] <pogiako1> look at his work
[06:49] <reisio> no he's dead
[06:49] <reisio> :p
[06:49] <pogiako1> in the first place he wouldnt introduce himself to the public if he was a bad guy
[06:49] <pogiako1> look him up
[06:50] <pogiako1> and also mudge, my hero too :D
[06:50] <reisio> didn't say he was bad...
[06:50] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Lol. We're all temporary. We're like Windows.  Eventually we'll be wiped. Ready to start anew.
[06:50] <pogiako1> IcanhazUbuntuplz: what do u mean?
[06:50] <pogiako1> i currently have no friend at facebook haha
[06:50] <pogiako1> dang feels so good
[06:50] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> :P I'm saying while we're installed to the Hard Drive that is Earth,
[06:50] <pogiako1> feels so fresh haha
[06:51] <pogiako1> there's no such thing as an end
[06:51] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> We're like Windows. As we get older, we either get corrupted or errors start occuring
[06:51] <pogiako1> haha
[06:51] <meet_praveen> i installed ubuntu with 2 partition one is with mount point '/' and another is with mount point none... but now system is so slow and restricts me to create folders without using terminal. i am logedin as admin
[06:51] <pogiako1> actually, when u thought the it is the end, from there is another beginning ;)
[06:51] <ianorlin> how as admin is that your user name?
[06:51] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Then when we die, We're wiped from the Hard Drive, and Installed as Linux on a clear, blank Hard Drive and you know the rest ^_^
[06:52] <pogiako1> haha
[06:52] <reisio> meet_praveen: how much ram?
[06:52] <pogiako1> how is 13.10 btw?
[06:52] <pogiako1> would any of u guys want to be my friend on facebook? haha
[06:52] <pogiako1> i dont have any friends on fb atm :(
[06:52] <bwoken> 13.10 is quite bwoken
[06:52] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Pogiako1, I'm game!
[06:52] <pogiako1> yeah
[06:52] <pogiako1> haha
[06:52] <pogiako1> yoh name?
[06:52] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Bwoken XD
[06:53] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Pm me yours, I'll search and add.
[06:53] <pogiako1> IcanhazUbuntuplz: yeah it really is
[06:53] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> :3
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> pogiako1: keep this channel for ubuntu support only plz
[06:53] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> 12.04 LTS ;D
[06:53] <pogiako1> haha
[06:53] <pogiako1> am supproting lol
[06:53] <pogiako1> but really 13.10 is broken
[06:53] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> I need to check for updates
[06:53] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> brb
[06:53] <pogiako1> thats normal
[06:53] <pogiako1> its new anyway
[06:53] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> I love how Ubuntu gets it right
[06:54] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> I can update without having to restart.
[06:54] <pogiako1> well i need to go now
[06:54] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Yunno, unless its a kernel update.
[06:54] <pogiako1> bye guys ;) take care
[06:54] <pogiako1> hey IcanhazUbuntuplz i pm'ed my FB  ;)
[06:55] <reisio> IcanhazUbuntuplz: yeah that takes extra work
[06:58] <jnpplf> wilee-nilee, unfortunately getting Ubuntu working was only one half of it. Windows was unbootable, so time to start again with a different strategy :(
[06:59] <xmetal> hmmm
[07:02] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> How often should I run Ubuntu's update Manager?
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> IcanhazUbuntuplz: when there's an update
[07:02] <reisio> IcanhazUbuntuplz: as frequently as you can without it messing up your day
[07:03] <reisio> updates are good, peace is better
[07:03] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Going to Run once everyday at noon, and again at midnight(:
[07:04] <dp_wiz> w0w. my 12.04 upgraded straight to 14.04 and... it worked!
[07:05] <reisio> amazin'
[07:05] <dp_wiz> but 13.04 can't find a "new release"... strange
[07:05] <dp_wiz> even with -d
[07:05] <man0riaX> Good morning
[07:05] <reisio> different configs
[07:06] <reisio> man0riaX: mornin'
[07:06] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> 14.04 is out already?
[07:06] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> I must have been under a rock o.o
[07:06] <reisio> nope
[07:06] <reisio> you must have travelled to 20... 14
[07:06] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Ok good lol. I was going to say
[07:06] <maxb> dp_wiz: Check your /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[07:06] <reisio> they probably have betas in the works already, though
[07:07] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Yup reisio, Now if I could go back in time to when Linux was invented.
[07:07] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> And I was a rich Millionaire, I'd pour a bunch of money into it.
[07:08] <meet_praveen> reisio: 2GB
[07:08] <reisio> IcanhazUbuntuplz: mmm
[07:08] <reisio> or, without any additional funds
[07:08] <reisio> you could just go back in time and tell the BSD guys to not ASK to be sued
[07:09] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> XD yes.
[07:10] <reisio> 1-800-SUE-PLEAS
[07:10] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Lol! I've ordered a shirt from the Canonical store ;3
[07:11] <reisio> lolz
[07:11] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> Windows users: l2pk XD
[07:12] <thecha> how do i edit read only or protected text and other files?
[07:13] <thecha> can someone pls explain to me vim?
[07:13] <dp_wiz> maxb: oh.. there were stale meta-release files on my local mirror. thanks for the hint.
[07:13] <reisio> thecha: run 'vimtutor'
[07:13] <thecha> thanks
[07:13] <ianmac1> thecha, First of all, which file are you trying to edit? You probably shouldn't mes with read-only system files
[07:13] <cfhowlett> !vim|thecha,
[07:13] <thecha> i tried vim man
[07:13] <bazhang> thecha, try #vim
[07:13] <thecha> man vim i mean
[07:14] <reisio> ed
[07:14] <thecha> can i make changes with gedit?
[07:14] <reisio> who put that in the factoid :p
[07:14] <reisio> thecha: with any text editor
[07:14] <thecha> i mean with the graphical stuff you never get to be root?
[07:14] <reisio> no you can use gedit as root
[07:14] <thecha> how do you get back to the roots?
[07:14] <thecha> how do YOU use gedit as root
[07:14] <pero> thecha: you can open files with a gui-based editor with : gksudo gedit <file>
[07:15] <liamevanspro> soooooo I'm have never used and irc chat before
[07:15] <reisio> you're meant to use gksudo or the like for graphical things
[07:15] <pero> but using nano would probably be easier
[07:15] <liamevanspro> and I'm scred
[07:15] <ianmac1> thecha, Before you go editing a system file, be sure that you really need to do so. Which file?
[07:15] <liamevanspro> scared*
[07:15] <thecha> gksudo opens and gui app with roots priviliges?
[07:15] <reisio> pero: it's the same amount of ease
[07:15] <reisio> thecha: yup
[07:15] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> reisio: Next time you see an attractive female, Don't be afraid to say: You can run SUID On me anytime(:
[07:15] <thecha> i hae a long list of files i liek to change completley
[07:15] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> XD
[07:15] <thecha> sources.list is one of them
[07:15] <liamevanspro> I NEED HELP PLEASE
[07:15] <reisio> liamevanspro: as well you should be MUAHAHAHAHAH
[07:15] <thecha> then i watn to change a whole bunch of config files
[07:15] <thecha> like cassandra.yaml
[07:16] <ianmac1> IcanhazUbuntuplz, perhaps you need to take that to off-topic channel?
[07:16] <thecha> and others :( but up untill now i couldnt
[07:16] <reisio> thecha: get to work then :)
[07:16] <pero> thecha: you should use 'software and updates' to deal with that
[07:16] <thecha> i will! i will edit the living hello out of these files
[07:16] <pero> from dash
[07:16] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> ianmac1: I did, just wanted to share with reisio but I forgot the /msg
[07:16] <liamevanspro> how do i convert the ubuntu iso to an img for on OS X MAVERICKS please thank you xD!
[07:16] <liamevanspro> ^^
[07:17] <reisio> liamevanspro: what do you need an 'img' for?
[07:17] <cfhowlett> !mac|liamevanspro,
[07:17] <thecha> Thank you a lot for your kindly help to a fellow gnu/linux
[07:17] <reisio> thecha: :)
[07:19] <liamevanspro> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[07:19] <liamevanspro> that's what I'm doing right now^
[07:19] <zack_> ok
[07:19] <liamevanspro> but step 3 is hard cause I have to use the terminal
[07:19] <cfhowlett> liamevanspro, instructions are there.
[07:19] <liamevanspro> and i don't know how to "Convert the .iso file to .img using the convert option of hdiutil (e.g.,hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/path/to/target.img ~/path/to/ubuntu.iso)
[07:20] <liamevanspro> :O
[07:20] <liamevanspro> @zack_ hi
[07:21] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, you just posted the command line for it
[07:21] <liamevanspro> ya but i have never see command lines in my life!
[07:21] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, Now's a good time to get used to them :)
[07:21] <liamevanspro> ok then show me how please :)
[07:22] <ianmac1> you just posted it:  hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/path/to/target.img ~/path/to/ubuntu.iso
[07:23] <ianmac1> the /path/to is the path to the files, such as /home/user/blah/blah
[07:23] <cfhowlett> liamevanspro, open a terminal.  type in the exact command you posted.  press enter
[07:23] <liamevanspro> it says no such file or directory
[07:24] <liamevanspro> what do i replace?
[07:24] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, where is your ubuntu ISO image?
[07:24] <liamevanspro> on my desktop
[07:24] <ianmac1> and what is your computer user name?
[07:25] <liamevanspro> its here /Users/liamevans/Desktop/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:25] <ianmac1> ok, great! that is part of it. Now, where do you want to create the IMG file?
[07:25] <liamevanspro> on my desktop right next to the ISO
[07:26] <reisio> iImg
[07:26] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, ok, it should be like this: hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/Users/liamevans/Desktop/ubuntu-13.10.img ~/Users/liamevans/Desktop/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:27] <Dnamb> #omg!ubuntu!
[07:28] <liamevanspro> it didn't work :(.
[07:28] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, what was the error?
[07:28] <liamevanspro> it still says no such file directory
[07:29] <taz> #epia
[07:29] <reisio> ianmac1: what does that do exactly?
[07:29] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, in your terminal type this: find ~ -name ubuntu-13.10*
[07:30] <liamevanspro> ok i typed it and hit enter and this popped up
[07:30] <liamevanspro> this here /Users/liamevans/Desktop/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:31] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, what distro are you using?
[07:33] <ianmac1> reisio, it's the command he gave me to convert an ubuntu ISO into a Mac IMG file
[07:33] <reisio> I guess Mac OS needs some fancy FS to boot
[07:33] <ianmac1> HFS I believe
[07:33] <Ben64> theres the mac image, just use that
[07:34] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, which distro are you using to do this conversion on?
[07:34] <Ben64> http://releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[07:34]  * ianmac1 finds it curious that his desktop path begins with "/Users" rather than "/home"
[07:34] <ianmac1> Ben64, Thank you!
[07:35] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, See the link Ben64 posted, it might save you the conversion
[07:35] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: notice the ~ before /Users
[07:35] <Ben64> the point is there shouldn't be a /Users
[07:35] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, I didn't see a tilde:  <liamevanspro> this here /Users/liamevans/Desktop/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:37] <ianmac1> I have a feeling he is on a MAc right now. What does a path in MAc begin with?
[07:37] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: ahh sorry my bad
[07:37] <troulouliou_dev> hi there is a bug in the kernel used by ubuntu 12.04 - 13.10 that prevent me from launching it or the installer on an old atom box; any suggestions how i can install with a custom 3.12 kernel ?
[07:37] <hitsujiTMO> troulouliou_dev: what iso are you using?
[07:38] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, tested with 13.04 and 13.10 server and desktop
[07:38] <hitsujiTMO> troulouliou_dev: whats the exact iso name?
[07:38] <troulouliou_dev> i guess i can install a 11.10; compil my kernel and update up to 13.10
[07:38] <Ben64> troulouliou_dev: whats the bug?
[07:38] <hitsujiTMO> troulouliou_dev: more importantly. what architecture is the iso?
[07:39] <ianmac1> I was unaware that Ubuntu released Ubuntu ISO's for the atom
[07:39] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, ha tested with 64 and 32 bits
[07:39] <ianmac1> troulouliou_dev, he meant the architecture
[07:39] <hitsujiTMO> troulouliou_dev: what processor is it exactly?
[07:40] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, it is an old atom ; need to replug the box to have the exact version; i m searching back the kernel fix i saw for 3.12
[07:40] <Ben64> how do you know its a bug thats stopping it from working
[07:41] <reisio> troulouliou_dev: minimalcd?
[07:41] <ianmac1> troulouliou_dev, which ISO were you trying to boot on that atom box? Are you sure the ISO is for the atom arch?
[07:42] <troulouliou_dev> ianmac1, there isn't an atom arch ; i tested ubuntu-13.10-server-amd64.iso ; 386 ...
[07:42] <hitsujiTMO> troulouliou_dev: if its an older atom, then you need the i386 iso.
[07:42] <reisio> as in intel atom? Yes it's x86/i386 if it's older
[07:42] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, I'm so glad you're here :)
[07:42] <reisio> I don't _think_ they debuted those chips with any 64-bit versions, though they have them at this point
[07:42] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, yes i tested with it but it is a bug inthe kernel; just searching the fix atm
[07:43] <Ben64> troulouliou_dev: you really need to give more info or nobody can help you
[07:44] <troulouliou_dev> Ben64, yes searching atm :)
[07:44] <hitsujiTMO> troulouliou_dev: i have not heard of any such bug. very weird considering i've install ubuntu on just about every consumer atom processor available in my last job
[07:44] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: one with VT-x?
[07:44] <pers3us> troulouliou_dev: Ben64, indeed. What is the error that you are encoutering? Which version or iso did you use? Is it even booting up? Where does it stop?
[07:44] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: vt-x isn't available on 32bit
[07:44] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, , Ben64 that the issue i m facing : http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.embedded.poky/9144
[07:45] <troulouliou_dev> Tuning for Intel Atom CPU can in result instructions being used that are
[07:45] <troulouliou_dev> not compatible with older x86 CPUs such as Intel Pentium Dual-Core
[07:45] <troulouliou_dev> E2200. This can result in Linux 3.10 failing to boot with:
[07:45] <troulouliou_dev> "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
[07:45] <troulouliou_dev> movbe
[07:45] <FloodBot1> troulouliou_dev: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:45] <troulouliou_dev> ho sorry for flooding
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> 7 years using linux never had a bug, yet we see these claims daily
[07:45] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: I meant re last job
[07:46] <dp_wiz> goodbye "up 175 days"... and welcome back!
[07:47] <reisio> ark says they've got 32-bit ones with vt-x, anyways
[07:47] <reisio> not that I was asking that... no matter
[07:48] <troulouliou_dev> Ben64, this is the kernel commit that prevent recent kernel from booting : http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git/commit/?id=2b9b6d8c715b23fa119261c32ad360681f4464a9
[07:48] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: tbh i don't think i've used an atom with vt-x. the last ones we had D2700 and N2800 which i don't think have vt-x. Didn't use any newer atoms.
[07:48] <troulouliou_dev> 3.12 has fixed it or i can recompil a new kernel with CONFIG_MATOM disabled
[07:49] <troulouliou_dev> i jsut wonder how to install ubuntu in the first place :)
[07:49] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: I've only heard of one person ever having one, some foreign netbook
[07:49] <IcanhazUbuntuplz>  I have a foreign netbook
[07:49] <IcanhazUbuntuplz> It's made by a chinese company ;3
[07:49] <reisio> nobody sells them :p
[07:49] <reisio> IcanhazUbuntuplz: I guess you don't live in China, then
[07:50] <dp_wiz> Is it possible yet to use nvidia blob with 3.12 kernel?
[07:50] <namrata> anyone here facing problems with their openjdk-7 installation?
[07:50] <reisio> namrata: you?
[07:50] <namrata> reisio: yeah me ....
[07:50] <reisio> ooh ooh I guessed right
[07:50] <wilee-nilee> mine burts into flames
[07:51] <helmut_> hi
[07:51] <pers3us> mine explodes.
[07:51] <reisio> helmut_: hiyo
[07:53] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: i've no idea really why you'd need vt-x on an atom tbh. Maybe for some odd embedded system alright, but in general seems odd
[07:53] <reisio> well, theoretically it would be a cheap low power way to have vt-x
[07:53] <reisio> ...except they're impossible to find for purchase :p
[07:54] <reisio> and as for vt-x, reasons for having it aren't super great, but they exist :)
[07:55] <troulouliou_dev> dp_wiz, yes ; just use make-kpkg and the nvidia module will be compiled automaticcaly by dkms
[07:55] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: i'm sure the server ones come with it alright. they're just harder to get your hands on. I've only ever seen them used in prebuilt NASs that are 500-700 EUR a pop
[07:56] <reisio> oh wait, I forgot the guy who said he had a netbook with one with vt-x took it back, it didn't have :p
[07:56] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: yeah so tedious :p
[07:56] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, i guess i can always then install on another computer; rebuild the kernel and then plug back in the original box
[07:56] <hitsujiTMO> troulouliou_dev: if there is indeed a bug in the kernel. you'd have to do a debootstap install
[07:58] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, ok thanks i m installing on the disk pluged in another computer; rebuild a kernel and then plug back the disk; should work i guess
[07:58] <sl1ck> how can I remove lines exceeding 5 chars in a text file? I can't remember the command?
[07:59] <sgo11> hi, I am building a kernel by following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel, I am confused. after running "fakeroot debian/rules clean" and "fakeroot debian/rules editconfigs" and make some changes in menuconfig, do I still need to call "fakeroot debian/rules clean" again? Why do I need to call "clean" twice? thanks.
[07:59] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, is there still 32 bits repos for 13.10 servers ?
[08:00] <reisio> sl1ck: egrep -iv '^......'
[08:00] <hitsujiTMO> troulouliou_dev: the desktop and server repos are the same
[08:04] <Ari-Yang> sgo11: I'm curious, why are you building your own kernel?
[08:05] <sgo11> Ari-Yang, I need to add a hid tablet driver given by the manufacturer. a .c file. they asked me to do it. otherwise, what to do?
[08:06] <sgo11> Ari-Yang, the tablet is not working without this driver, they only provide .c file and ask me to compile the kernel. I never do this before.
[08:07] <Ari-Yang> kk
[08:08] <sl1ck> reisio: I found grep '^.\{X\}' file to do a better job. Thanks tho.
[08:08] <troulouliou_dev> sgo11, that fakeroot method confused me too i still somehow prefer the old make-kpkg method
[08:08] <troulouliou_dev> seems more natural
[08:08] <sgo11> can anyone help me on this? by following the guide, I am confused. I don't know why I need to run "clean" twice. the first time build a kernel.
[08:09] <troulouliou_dev> sgo11, clean remove all the compile and temporary files
[08:09] <troulouliou_dev> sgo11, it won't touch the .config file
[08:10] <sgo11> troulouliou_dev, thanks. so why do I run clean? just remove some harddisk spaces?
[08:10] <hitsujiTMO> troulouliou_dev: btw what exactly happens when you try to boot 13.10 or 12.04 etc?
[08:11] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, i have this message : This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: movbe
[08:11] <sgo11> whatever. I just run it by following the guide. hopefully, it will work magically.
[08:11] <troulouliou_dev> sgo11, no it ill removed all previously compiled modules / kernel and temp file
[08:12] <sgo11> troulouliou_dev, will it remove all the changes I made in "make menuconfig" step? thanks.
[08:12] <troulouliou_dev> sgo11, no
[08:12] <donnib> can somebody help me with fixing some currupted files, i get this when i do apt-get upgrade :http://pastebin.com/9bqbTH5k
[08:12] <troulouliou_dev> sgo11, btw if you want to get back your actual kernel configuration before editing ; you can use make oldconfig
[08:13] <hitsujiTMO> troulouliou_dev: hmm, then that would suggest that your cpu is not an atom since movbe is present on all atoms from day 1.
[08:13] <hitsujiTMO> troulouliou_dev: that or it is incorrectly detecting movbe support
[08:13] <sgo11> troulouliou_dev, ok. then, it's ok to run it. maybe my question is stupid. why do I remove all previously compiled modules?
[08:14] <troulouliou_dev> sgo11, to compile them back :) if they are present they won't be recompiled except if there is some source code change
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> donnib, how long you been running sudo in a rooted terminal?
[08:15] <hitsujiTMO> donnib: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[08:15] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, is is an Intel ® Dual-Core Atom™ Processor 330 (1.6 GHz)
[08:16] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, somebody else have the same issue here : http://openelec.tv/forum/64-installation/66269-a330ion-board-what-version
[08:16] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, maybe early model had this features disabled or not listed in cpuid ?
[08:17] <sgo11> troulouliou_dev, ok. not fully understand. but whatever. just folllow the steps. kernel is compiling. how long that will take? and after compiling and install, my old kernel will be gone, right? thanks.
[08:17] <hitsujiTMO> troulouliou_dev: or is disabled on chipsets with nvidia ion
[08:18] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, yes maybe, it is an old unused box i want to revice as a ppoe/snort/tc/iptables box for a 2 mega adsl connection
[08:24] <firespeaker> my system doesn't finish booting (gets "stuck" after starting cups, though it still accepts input), but when I start it in recovery mode, I can get everything to start, even including unity and stuff.  how do I track down what it's waiting for?
[08:25] <sgo11> wow. I did google search. people say compiling a kernel will take 1 to 2 hours. will that burn my laptop? cpu is 67 degree after a few minutes.
[08:25] <firespeaker> sgo11: some laptops run normally at around 70C
[08:25] <firespeaker> sgo11: or any number of different ranges of temperature
[08:26] <sgo11> firespeaker, i feel sorry to my laptop. I should do this in my desktop PC.
[08:26] <firespeaker> sgo11: if your fans and stuff are all working correctly, it shouldn't overheat
[08:26] <reisio> I'm not sure even a huge Ubuntu kernel will take 2 hours
[08:26] <reisio> check the date of whatever you're reading
[08:26] <firespeaker> as for burning, what you do with your matches is up to you
[08:26] <jnpplf> Woohoo, resolved my earlier problem now, thanks wilee-nilee
[08:26] <wilee-nilee> firespeaker, Have you messed around with /etc/default/grub or grub and need to run a update-grub?
[08:26] <firespeaker> I remember when it used to take >10 hours for a small kernel
[08:27] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, cool, enjoy.
[08:27] <reisio> I remember when you had to flip those switches!
[08:27] <liamevanspro> ahhhh i need help
[08:27] <firespeaker> wilee-nilee: I haven't messed around with grub's config files, though grub is now 64bit when it used to be 32bit on the same system
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> firespeaker, what?
[08:28] <firespeaker> wilee-nilee: but no, I've updated grub a million times since then
[08:28] <firespeaker> wilee-nilee: ignore all that.  it's not grub.  it loads the kernel and userland stuff just fine
[08:28] <liamevanspro> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[08:28] <liamevanspro> I'm there
[08:28] <liamevanspro> and step 3 is not working!
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> Heh, I can easily do that.
[08:29] <firespeaker> wilee-nilee: how could it be a problem with grub if it gets all the way to starting upstart services?
[08:29] <sgo11> damn. compile error.
[08:29] <liamevanspro> hello? help please
[08:29] <firespeaker> liamevanspro: can't help unless we know what's happening
[08:29] <liamevanspro> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[08:30] <wilee-nilee> firespeaker, la,la,la huh I'm busy ignoring. ;)
[08:30] <firespeaker> liamevanspro: yes, I saw you url
[08:30] <liamevanspro> ok I'm using this tutorial
[08:30] <firespeaker> liamevanspro: what is it that's not working
[08:30] <firespeaker> if your problem is that you're using that tutorial, I have nfi
[08:31] <wilee-nilee> firespeaker, People mess with the kernel is why I asked,
[08:31] <liamevanspro> on that site, on step 3, i enter the required info in the terminal and it says "no such file" or something
[08:31] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, Keep in mind that tutorial is for a Mac and you're asking in an Ubuntu channel.. might not be too many folks here with Mac knowledge
[08:31] <Jordan_U> liamevanspro: What is the exact command you ran, and its exact output?
[08:31] <sgo11> compile kernel error "make: *** [.../linux-3.5.0/debian/stamps/stamp-build-generic] Error 2", what does this mean? how to debug? thanks.
[08:31] <firespeaker> wilee-nilee: nope, using an ubuntu-provided kernel
[08:31] <firespeaker> sgo11: why are you making such an old kernel?
[08:32] <firespeaker> liamevanspro: what exactly did you enter into the terminal?
[08:32] <liamevanspro> hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o /Users/liamevans/Documents/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso  /Users/liamevans/Downloads/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.img
[08:32] <firespeaker> and what's it say?
[08:32] <sgo11> firespeaker, I am using it all the time without any problems. don't bother upgrade. regardless how old it is. why does it give compile error? thanks.
[08:32] <liamevanspro> and then it said " hdiutil: convert failed - No such file or directory
[08:33] <firespeaker> liamevanspro: does that file exist?
[08:33] <liamevanspro> yes when i used the find command it found it there
[08:33] <firespeaker> /Users/liamevans/Downloads/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.img
[08:33] <firespeaker> ls -la
[08:33] <firespeaker> type ls -la /Users/liamevans/Downloads/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.img
[08:33] <liamevanspro> wait the IMG doesn't exist of course!
[08:34] <liamevanspro> the ISO does
[08:34] <hitsujiTMO> firespeaker: that looks like the output
[08:34] <ianmac1> firespeaker, I think it's supposed to be file.img -> file.iso and not the other way around
[08:34] <firespeaker> Htbrdd: no, the thing after -o would be the output
[08:34] <firespeaker> ianmac1: well then he's going to have trouble if the img doesn't exist
[08:34] <Jordan_U> liamevanspro: Are you sure that the iso is in a "Documents" directory and not "Downloads" or "Desktop"?
[08:34] <hitsujiTMO> liamevanspro: ls -l /Users/liamevans/Documents/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso                and: ls -l /Users/liamevans/Downloads/
[08:34] <ianmac1> firespeaker, true
[08:35] <liamevanspro> I'm sure its in documents
[08:35] <firespeaker> sgo11: theres hould be more information with that error message
[08:35] <hitsujiTMO> liamevanspro: can you please give output of those 2 commands
[08:35] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, fun btw i have the same issue on a Xeon  x3350 cpu
[08:36] <ianmac1> firespeaker, I meant I think it's: command [options] /path/target.img /path/file.iso , he has it backwards I think
[08:36] <firespeaker> liamevanspro: then why did you type Downloads?
[08:36] <firespeaker> ianmac1: probably, but good luck explaining that
[08:36] <sgo11> firespeaker, that's all. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6409625/
[08:36] <loong> hello
[08:36] <reisio> 'lo
[08:36] <loong> anybody there
[08:36] <loong> hi
[08:36] <cfhowlett> loong, no
[08:36] <loong> hi there
[08:37] <reisio> heyhey
[08:37] <reisio> hey
[08:37] <cfhowlett> only a few thousand
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> loong: 1700 users are
[08:37] <loong> how many people in there
[08:37] <firespeaker> sgo11: maybe ask in #kernel ?  nfi
[08:37] <cfhowlett> loong, what is your ubuntu support question?
[08:37] <sgo11> firespeaker, thanks a lot. will do that.
[08:37] <firespeaker> my system doesn't finish booting (gets "stuck" after starting cups, though it still accepts input), but when I start it in recovery mode, I can get everything to start, even including unity and stuff.  how do I track down what it's waiting for?
[08:37] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: is right. liamevanspro has the .img and .iso in the wrond order
[08:37] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, have you tried discussing this in a Mac channel, since this is a Mac command?
[08:37] <loong> no question thanks
[08:37] <liamevanspro> hi so i  entered this: ls -l /Users/liamevans/Documents/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[08:38] <liamevanspro> and it said this: -rw-r--r--@ 1 liamevans  staff  925892608 16 Oct 15:14 /Users/liamevans/Documents/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[08:38] <firespeaker> liamevanspro: so why are you inputting the .img for the command?
[08:38] <firespeaker> that file doesn't exist
[08:38] <loong> are you robot?
[08:38] <cfhowlett> liamevanspro, you need to take this up with the mac support channel
[08:38] <firespeaker> it told you the problem loong before you asked us
[08:38] <hitsujiTMO> liamevanspro: hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o /Users/liamevans/Documents/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64-mac.img /Users/liamevans/Documents/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[08:39] <cfhowlett> loong, if you don't have a support question, you might be happier in ubuntu-offtopic
[08:39] <ola2> i did htis apt-get install python3.1
[08:39] <liamevanspro> omfg!!!
[08:39] <ola2> but in python -V shows 2.7.3
[08:39] <ola2> what to do
[08:39] <liamevanspro> hitsujiTMO it worked!!!!
[08:39] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, I'm guessing you had the path wrong all along
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> !info python | ola2
[08:40] <liamevanspro> THANKS YOU ARE A GOD AMONG MEN!
[08:40] <firespeaker> ola2: did you install python3.1 successfully?  Try setting PYTHON and PYTHONPATH
[08:40] <hitsujiTMO> liamevanspro: as was pointed out you had input and ouput mixed
[08:40] <ola2> ya
[08:40] <liamevanspro> i will keep this chat open incase i need more help
[08:40] <ola2> no i have not set path
[08:40] <liamevanspro> thanks all your best!
[08:40] <firespeaker> ola2: you can also run it by saying python3
[08:40] <liamevanspro> what do i do for set 4
[08:41] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, he also had the wrong path, he told us it was Desktop instead of Documents
[08:41] <liamevanspro> whats distil list?
[08:41] <ola2> but im making a software i will install python on that machine
[08:41] <firespeaker> ianmac1: he said Downloads I think
[08:41] <ola2> so i want his machine to have python3
[08:41] <firespeaker> ola2: sounds like it does
[08:41] <ola2> if he has python 2.
[08:41] <ola2> then my software is gone
[08:41] <firespeaker> you said you successfully installed it
[08:41] <firespeaker> ola2: what?
[08:41] <loong> who know face recognition
[08:41] <liamevanspro> whats diskutil list??? hello?! lol
[08:42] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, you really need to be asking Mac-related question in a Mac channel, you'll get better help there
[08:42] <ola2> i will give a software to client
[08:42] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: well, he could have outputed to the destop too if he preferred. i just used documents in my example as it makes more sense for me to output it to the same dir
[08:42] <liamevanspro> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[08:42] <ola2> if he has python2.x already installed
[08:42] <liamevanspro> where is mac help place??
[08:42] <liamevanspro> step 4 what do?
[08:42] <ola2> then how will i run python 3.x commands
[08:42] <firespeaker> ola2: python3 script.py
[08:42] <firespeaker> or in the top of the script put #!/usr/bin/env python3
[08:42] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, try ##apple
[08:42] <firespeaker> and make it executable
[08:43] <liamevanspro> don't you mean #apple?
[08:43] <liamevanspro> not ##apple
[08:43] <hitsujiTMO> liamevanspro: ##mac
[08:43] <liamevanspro> why 2 ##
[08:43] <ianmac1> no, it's ##apple , because that channel wasn't started by Apple
[08:43] <liamevanspro> oh
[08:44] <ianmac1> # = corporate owned, ## = user owned
[08:44] <liamevanspro> ok
[08:44] <codygman> Does anyone else using firefox on ubuntu have issues with html5 games? Specifically this example http://elm-lang.org/edit/examples/Reactive/Transforms.elm... I have no issues in chromium with it.
[08:44] <ianmac1> at least that's the way Freenode wants it to be
[08:44] <liamevanspro> it doesn't work
[08:45] <ianmac1> /join ##apple
[08:45] <liamevanspro> is it ##mac or ##apple?
[08:45] <ianmac1> /join ##apple
[08:45] <codygman> liamevanspro: You have to hover your mouse in the black box... the triangle follows your mouse.
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> codygman: link works for me so it seems
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> codygman: your FF is up to date?
[08:45] <MrQuist> okay how do you type /join ##apple without a space up front?
[08:46] <MrQuist> or is that just your client
[08:46] <ianmac1> two "/"
[08:46] <MrQuist> does escaping work?
[08:46] <codygman> lotuspsychje: It works for me too, but there is lag. I believe so, I'm using 25. Checking aptitude to see if update is available.
[08:46] <MrQuist> lol
[08:46] <MrQuist> /me test
[08:46] <MrQuist> cooool
[08:46] <MrQuist> <3 i love you
[08:46] <FloodBot1> MrQuist: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox | codygman
[08:46] <ianmac1> :)
[08:46] <liamevanspro> [:)
[08:46] <codygman> lotuspsychje: Yep, that's what I have.
[08:46]  * MrQuist gusta
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> codygman: maybe the #firefox guys might know your issue aswell?
[08:47] <codygman> lotuspsychje: Yeah, I'll post there and see what they have to say.
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> codygman: also might try starting FF from terminal, see what it says
[08:48] <liamevanspro> bah!
[08:48] <liamevanspro> i try to join and it say "You need to identify with network services to join the room "##apple" on "irc.freenode.net".
[08:48] <liamevanspro> Server Details:
[08:48] <liamevanspro> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[08:48] <liamevanspro> help me!!
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> !register | liamevanspro
[08:48] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, yeah, that channel is kinda strict
[08:48] <codygman> lotuspsychje: Thanks. Will do.
[08:48] <hitsujiTMO> liamevanspro: there's also ##mac
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> codygman: how is the lag showing for you?
[08:49] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, Thank you for that :)
[08:49] <ianmac1> yeah, a few more people in ##mac anyway, try that
[08:50] <liamevanspro> nope ##mac didn't work either
[08:50] <liamevanspro> same error message
[08:50] <codygman> lotuspsychje: The orange hexagon should follow my mouse but it lags behind.
[08:50] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, go ahead and register your nick, it seems it would benefit you
[08:51] <liamevanspro> ok i registered now what
[08:51] <liamevanspro> at least i think i did
[08:51] <liamevanspro> « /nick <nickname> »
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> codygman: you can try clearing FF cache also
[08:52] <liamevanspro> « /nick <liamevanspro> »
[08:52] <liamevanspro2> f\
[08:53] <hitsujiTMO> liamevanspro: check your email for a confirmation email. finish that and you should be able to ligin with nickserv then
[08:53] <liamevanspro> ##mac and ##apple still odnt work!
[08:53] <liamevanspro> ut this server doesn't even have my email!
[08:53] <MrQuist> liamevanspro, you didn't register
[08:53] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, nickserv says you're not registered
[08:53] <MrQuist> you just changed your nick
[08:54] <codygman> lotuspsychje: Sadly that didn't make a difference. I'll wait for a response in #firefox
[08:54] <MrQuist> check out the freenode server info in the beginning
[08:54] <hitsujiTMO> liamevanspro: you should have given your email when registering: msg nickserv register password_of_your_choice your@email.address
[08:54] <liamevanspro> soooo how do i register?
[08:54] <hitsujiTMO> liamevanspro: you should have given your email when registering: /msg nickserv register password_of_your_choice your@email.address
[08:54] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, /msg nickserv help register
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> codygman: you have other lags on FF with video's or youtubes,?
[08:55] <liamevanspro> bah thats wayyyyy to confusing!
[08:55] <liamevanspro> ant you guys just help me here?
[08:55] <liamevanspro> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[08:55] <liamevanspro> I'm on step 4 wit do?
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> liamevanspro: did you even read the register link?
[08:56] <YeeBoo> hi all
[08:56] <liamevanspro> i did but i didn't understand what to do
[08:56] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, that is a Mac-related tutorial, the folks here are Ubuntu users, you need to go to a Mac channel to get proper Mac help, they're two different systems
[08:56] <MrQuist> liamevanspro, CTRL+T -> "diskutil"
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> YeeBoo: hello, what can we do for you mate?
[08:57] <MrQuist> open up terminal (same as in ubuntu somehow :) ) and run diskutil
[08:57] <liamevanspro> but you guys helped me with the other step so ya :)
[08:57] <liamevanspro> ok ill run disktil
[08:58] <liamevanspro> wait i typed "run diskutil" in terminal and it didn't work!
[08:59] <liamevanspro> it said bash: run: command not found
[08:59] <aeon-ltd> liamevanspro: no run
[08:59] <MrQuist> just type in the command
[08:59] <MrQuist> diskutil is the command
[08:59] <hitsujiTMO> liamevanspro: run diskutil. as in diskutil in the applicatiosn folder
[08:59] <elijah> on ubuntu 64 bit is flash 64 bit or 32?
[08:59] <hitsujiTMO> liamevanspro: iirc its in applications _. utilities
[09:00] <liamevanspro> oh ok worked now. Jeez MrQuist, your a MAC GENIUS!
[09:00] <MrQuist> hahahah if people like me are mac geniouses
[09:00] <MrQuist> then i'm really happy that i don't own a mac
[09:00] <ianmac1> hahaha
[09:01] <ianmac1> I'm great with iOS, but don't know much about OS X
[09:01] <liamevanspro> LMAO!
[09:01] <MrQuist> liamevanspro.setNick(substr($nick, 0, -3));
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> Guest87104: if you have a 64bit ubuntu, packages will download as 64bit and best choose 64bit software from web aswell
[09:01] <hitsujiTMO> MrQuist: :)
[09:01] <MrQuist> all i know is that it looks WAY too much like an old, opensourced OS.... Just wonder where apple tells what it is
[09:01] <liamevanspro> oh guys! now i'm on step 5 OH NO!!
[09:02] <liamevanspro> wut do
[09:02] <MrQuist> what opensource knowledge it used...
[09:02] <MrQuist> Dude, really?
[09:02] <Guest87104> Yeah ok but I am asking if flash has a pure 64bit package
[09:02] <Guest87104> or uses the 32bit one
[09:02] <ianmac1> MrQuist, OS X is unix, isn't it?
[09:02] <MrQuist> based on, yeah
[09:02] <ianmac1> ok
[09:02] <MrQuist> they just never credit :(
[09:02] <ianmac1> that's sad
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> !info flashplugin-installer | Guest87104
[09:02] <liamevanspro> GUUUUSYSSY!
[09:02] <MrQuist> Look at mac OSX! We're great and fast and have no virusses!
[09:02] <liamevanspro> step 5 says insert flash media
[09:03] <MrQuist> liamevanspro, seriously
[09:03] <Guest87104> !info skype
[09:03] <liamevanspro> and step 6 says um......
[09:03] <MrQuist> try to use your grey mass for a second
[09:03] <MrQuist> what would it mean?
[09:03] <liamevanspro> Run diskutil list again and determine the device node assigned to your flash media (e.g. /dev/disk2).
[09:03] <wedr> lal
[09:03] <fosser_josh1> anyone know how to reset password for the python irc channel?
[09:03] <wedr>  /dev/greymass
[09:04] <khildin> wedr: is that equal to /dev/null ??
[09:04] <Guest87104> !info skype | Guest87104
[09:04] <MrQuist> "Insert" That means putting it in. "flash" Thats the typt of storage. "media" - thats some kind of a container. So what would this mean?
[09:04] <MrQuist> hahahahah
[09:04] <ianmac1> fosser_josh1, sounds like you need a freenode staffer #freenode
[09:04] <MrQuist> /dev/greymass -> /dev/null
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> Guest87104: you can download skype from website
[09:04] <wedr> khildin: sometimes it is
[09:04] <Guest87104> yeah but it uses 32bit librarys
[09:04] <Guest87104> is it the same with flash?
[09:04] <MrQuist> liamevanspro im not sure if you should install ubuntu
[09:05] <MrQuist> if you're unable to follow a 6-step explaination
[09:05] <liamevanspro> Im dieing laughing HAHHAHAH!
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> Guest87104: download skype multiarch
[09:05] <liamevanspro> I only want ubuntu to run try and run Windows games
[09:05] <Guest87104> you are not getting my point
[09:05] <MrQuist> then you probably won't be able to comple your own sound drivers
[09:05] <iceroot> MrQuist: i am not sure if you should do support here, so please stop something like that
[09:05] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, you're going to run into a lot of tutorials in Ubuntu
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> Guest87104: you want the 64bit skype?
[09:06] <liamevanspro> Windows games without windows! what do? OS X or Linux?
[09:07] <iceroot> liamevanspro: GNU/Linux with wine would be one way
[09:07] <Guest87104> there is no 64bit skype lotuspsychje. Now please do not confuse me
[09:07] <hitsujiTMO> Guest87104: there is no 64bit skype. its 32bit only so you install multiarch
[09:07] <iceroot> !wine | liamevanspro
[09:07] <Guest87104> hitsujiTMO, is it the same case with flash?
[09:07] <liamevanspro> Wine? really? I can get Wine on OS X i think!
[09:07] <hitsujiTMO> Guest87104: i don't think so
[09:08] <Guest87104> ok
[09:08] <iceroot> liamevanspro: i dont know os x (and i dont care about that) if there is also wine and you prefer os x, use that but we dont support os x here
[09:08] <ianmac1> liamevanspro, so you're installing Ubuntu on a MAc in order to play Windows games? Now, that's a hardcore gamer right there
[09:08] <liamevanspro> ^
[09:08] <Guest87104> yeah have fun with that one liamevanspro
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> Guest87104: ive just trigered you the flashplugin-installer and it says amd64
[09:09] <liamevanspro> PLUS I only want to play games because I just got a new MacBook Pro and i wanna see if it can play Crysis 3 or something graphically intense!
[09:09] <hitsujiTMO> Guest87104: i use the pepper plugin so i'm not 100% sure on it. but when i did the adobe flash plugin i had it on a 64bit browser so it should have been the same.
[09:10] <liamevanspro> I just wanna push the limits of my ne wmacbook to like show it off or what not :S
[09:10] <Guest87104> ok ty
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> liamevanspro: stop using this channel to chitchat about mac, this is an ubuntu support channel
[09:12] <liamevanspro> ok sorry guys :(.
[09:12] <liamevanspro> bye imma go buy windows or something.
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> !mac | liamevanspro
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> liamevanspro: install ubuntu free on your mac and install playonlinux to game
[09:13] <liamevanspro> sorry lotus, Mrquist says I'm not smart enough for linux
[09:13] <liamevanspro> something about a grey mass
[09:13] <ianmac1> lotuspsychje, that's what started this conversation :)
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> ianmac1: :p
[09:14] <liamevanspro> windows 8 should be free!
[09:14] <liamevanspro> fucking bitches!
[09:14] <liamevanspro> mavericks and Ubuntu are free
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> liamevanspro: im sure you can prove us your smart, not buying windows
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> !language | liamevanspro
[09:15] <liamevanspro> hey where the off topic place to just chat with people who like ubuntu?
[09:15] <DJones> liamevanspro: Please keep the language friendly, swearing isn't considered appropriate for the Ubuntu channels
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> !ot | liamevanspro
[09:16] <Organicanarchy> hey, is there any way to make Ubuntu faste?
[09:17] <liamevanspro> Ubunto is slowe?
[09:17] <Organicanarchy> im running a netbook with 1 gig of ram, and it seems like windows 7 actually runs faster on it
[09:17] <wilee-nilee> faste?
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> Organicanarchy: i might reccomend you installing ubuntu on an ssd
[09:17] <ianmac1> I've forced myself to use Unity for 24 hours. It's actually not as bad as I thought it would be. I hated it when it first came out, seems to have improved greatly
[09:17] <Organicanarchy> lotuspsychje I want to use Ubuntu to revive this crappy laptop
[09:17] <OxDeadC0de> I think faste is french. Yes. there are ways to make the default language french.
[09:18] <grahamsavage> hi.. ok i'm getting very odd networking issues but none of the other users are experieincing them (i'm the only one running ubuntu 12.04)
[09:18] <grahamsavage> i'm unable to say ping slashdot.org... what can i do to diagonse the problem?
[09:18] <OxDeadC0de> neat, that describes your problem in such a way that people who can help can because you totally had tons of detail in it!
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> Organicanarchy: xubuntu and lubuntu might run faster on your netbook, but i would buy and SSD drive and install ubuntu on your netbook
[09:18] <hitsujiTMO> Organicanarchy: install unity-tweak-tool and disable background blur in search section.   It will speed the interface up a lot
[09:19] <Organicanarchy> lotuspsychje: I dont even think this thingwill take an ssd, its IDE HD only lol
[09:19] <Organicanarchy> hitsujiTMO thanks, I might try that, but I thought ubuntu tweak was broken...
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> Organicanarchy: there are IDE ssd's aswell, nto as fast as sata ofcourse
[09:19] <hitsujiTMO> Organicanarchy: if its a new boot then its not ide :P
[09:19] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, thanks for that!
[09:19] <grahamsavage> obviously, i can connect to irc.. so dns and tcp is somewhat working.. it's a really odd networking issue
[09:19] <liamevanspro> ##fcuk
[09:20] <Organicanarchy> im off to try it Wubi style just to get a basic idea of how itll perform before I erase my whole HD
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> Organicanarchy: ssd and ubuntu goes rocketfast!
[09:20] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, OMG! That's a huge help
[09:20] <Organicanarchy> lotuspsychje, my next HD is gonna be SSD, and on a deskt
[09:20] <ianmac1> lol, where were you yesterday?
[09:20] <OxDeadC0de> grahamsavage: that is odd. try using a better dns server, like opendns
[09:21] <grahamsavage> dig slashdot.org -> 216.34.181.45;   ping 216.34181.45; doesn't work    wget 216.34.181.45 downloads no code
[09:21] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: lol sorry, i was prob helping someone else at the time
[09:21] <Organicanarchy> thanks ya'll
[09:21] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, it's also faster to keep blur turned on but change it from Active to Static
[09:22] <ianmac1> but, yeah, much faster to just turn it off
[09:22] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: yes but i find the blur to be unnecessary anyway. that also disables the blur on the alt-tab switcher
[09:22] <OxDeadC0de> grahamsavage: are you in china?
[09:22] <grahamsavage> OxDeadC0de: yep
[09:23] <OxDeadC0de> for real?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, beijing?
[09:23] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, yes, much better here on my little lappy
[09:23] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: nah, changsha
[09:23] <OxDeadC0de> Well frankly, that explains everything.
[09:23] <grahamsavage> ok.. computer 1 loads slashdot, computer 2 doesn't
[09:23] <OxDeadC0de> arg.
[09:23] <grahamsavage> OxDeadC0de: it doesn't explain jack
[09:23] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, dress warm.  my 2nd beijing winter ...
[09:24] <OxDeadC0de> well now it doesn't. I wanted to be all anti-chinas internet controlling efforts, but you said no.
[09:24] <grahamsavage> I know what GFOC errors look like.. this is not typical
[09:24] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, I get slashdot no problem
[09:24] <grahamsavage> on that IP?
[09:24] <OxDeadC0de> yes.
[09:24] <OxDeadC0de> same ip.
[09:25] <OxDeadC0de> wait, grahamsavage
[09:25] <grahamsavage> what else can i add too my toolbox?   dig, wget
[09:25] <OxDeadC0de> when I ping slashdot.org I get PING shashdot.org (80.190.252.204) 56(84) bytes of data
[09:25] <OxDeadC0de> when I dig I get slashdot.org.           152     IN      A       216.34.181.45
[09:25] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: what you using for dns?
[09:25] <OxDeadC0de> opendns
[09:26] <grahamsavage> are you the same person?
[09:26] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, nope.  no vpn, no nothing but ubuntu + firefox
[09:26] <OxDeadC0de> the same person as what
[09:26] <grahamsavage> OxDeadC0de: are you in china?
[09:26] <OxDeadC0de> no.
[09:26] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: your just using standard isp provided DNS?
[09:26] <pulsar78> need some help with a2dp bluetooth, anyone ?
[09:27] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, yeah, whatever the China ISP provides .. I'm on my work wifi
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> pulsar78: best is to fire your question about it in channel
[09:27] <OxDeadC0de> ask or answer, don't ask to ask.
[09:28] <OxDeadC0de> grahamsavage: if you go directly to http://80.190.252.204 does slashdot load?
[09:28] <grahamsavage> yeah
[09:28] <OxDeadC0de> then I blame your dns
[09:29] <jarkko> i just read yesterday that slashdot was used to spy people
[09:30] <pulsar78> use googles 8.8.8.8
[09:30] <jarkko> that some goverment made a page that looked like slashdot
[09:30] <cfhowlett> jarkko, read on the internet?  must be true ...
[09:30] <OxDeadC0de> I just read yesterday that a 747 landed on a nissan.. but it was a lie. a 747 would crush a nissan like a nissan would crush a tin can on the road.
[09:30] <grahamsavage> jarko: yeah that was the dodgy as shit brits
[09:30] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, so you can turn off the blur. Can you change the color of the background or make it darker?
[09:34] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: under launcher set the background colour there
[09:38] <federico__> #ubuntu-it-chat
[09:38] <federico__> join #ubuntu-it-chat
[09:40] <Organicanarchy> is there any other full featured linux distro that's faster than Ubuntu
[09:40] <Organicanarchy> and easy?
[09:40] <Organicanarchy> I've used Fedora and Mint before, but im looking for something else thats fast as hell
[09:40] <AlanBell> fast for what?
[09:41] <Organicanarchy> AlanBell fast for a crappy 1gb of ram netbook that's a few years old
[09:41] <MrQuist> Puppy
[09:41] <cfhowlett> Organicanarchy, xubuntu/lubuntu or optimized for older / lower spec machines such as yours
[09:41] <DJones> Organicanarchy: It might be worth looking at Lubuntu or Xubuntu which have lower hardware requirements
[09:42] <Organicanarchy> DJones cfhowlett thanks, I'llcheck those out, upgrading this machine just isn't really worth the money
[09:42] <AlanBell> get an ssd or more ram, or a new computer, that will be easier than trying to squeeze more out of that hardware
[09:42] <DJones> !lubuntu | Organicanarchy
[09:42] <MrQuist> Organicanarchy: It might be worth looking at Puppy, since its really small.
[09:42] <DJones> !xubuntu | Organicanarchy
[09:42] <Organicanarchy> MrQuist, i have used puppy and really don't like it at all
[09:42] <MrQuist> !puppy
[09:42] <MrQuist> oh
[09:42] <MrQuist> :(
[09:42] <Organicanarchy> haha sorry
[09:43] <MrQuist> i really like it for the small stuff :)
[09:43] <DJones> MrQuist: !puppy (if there was a factoid) would probably say the same as !mint etc about not being supported here
[09:43] <Organicanarchy> as far as tiny OSes go its great
[09:43] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, perfect, thank you again
[09:43] <MrQuist> I know i was joking DJones
[09:43] <MrQuist> just checing if you were awake :)
[09:45] <Organicanarchy> im buying a new computer soon, desktop, gonna buid it for gaming and totally installing Ubuntu/wine
[09:45] <OxDeadC0de> Organicanarchy: the best way to get 'fast as hell', is a minimal distro compiled directly for the target device. Ubuntu and others can do this, but are setup for general purpose use - and have to work with all devices. The compiled 64-bit deb needs to work on both amd and intel, so it has no amd or intel specific instructions (Even though compilers CAN generate those left and right)
[09:45] <donnib> hi, i need some help with starting Apache and it fails missing a file, i get  Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: libqdbm.so.14: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:46] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, hey I can set the icon size too.. now I can cram more icons in there :)
[09:46] <Organicanarchy> OxDeadC0de at some point I think im going to try to get arch on here
[09:46] <OxDeadC0de> Organicanarchy: so if you want the best 'fast as hell' distro, you will need to compile it yourself. that will take a lot of time to do, and if you need a new app it and whatever deps you don't already have will need compiled.
[09:46] <OxDeadC0de> yea that's what I was hinting at ;)
[09:46] <Organicanarchy> OxDeadC0de yeah, either arch or Gentoo
[09:47] <queretaro> Hi, by default my rc.local file is filled with a do_start function and some more things. How shall I edit it? In other distros I used it's always empty by default
[09:48] <OxDeadC0de> Organicanarchy: In my uhh, internet life, I haven't heard anyone mention gentoo in quite a long while. Arch is a common name though (G+ circles?..... meh.)
[09:48] <Organicanarchy> OxDeadC0de what about installing ubuntu server then just installing the xfce packages?
[09:48] <OxDeadC0de> Organicanarchy: that will get you minimal stuff sure, but none of it will have the special instructions provided by the processor (And even with an atom, there are a large number.)
[09:49] <kriss_> Uhmm somhow i think ive gotten malware in my chromium.. when i click a link on some websites i get a porn popup
[09:49] <OxDeadC0de> even SSE may be disabled so that the pacakage can run on 486's just to be backward compatible.
[09:49] <Organicanarchy> OxDeadC0de know much about wubi?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> Organicanarchy, friends don't let friends do wubi
[09:50] <OxDeadC0de> no.. I use YUMI.
[09:50] <OxDeadC0de> wubi sounds dumb.
[09:50] <kriss_> ive turned off all plugins that arent like VLC related or so.. but even complete remove of chromium and it still remembers last websites visited and all.. why ?
[09:50] <Organicanarchy> lol, im trying out a wubi install for desktop envorionment testing
[09:50] <cfhowlett> kriss_, that doesn't equate to malware on your end
[09:50] <Organicanarchy> but it keeps downloading amd64 packages
[09:50] <OxDeadC0de> VM it and use an ISO on a usb stick...
[09:50] <OxDeadC0de> amd64 works on both amd and intel
[09:51] <Organicanarchy> OxDeadC0de i have 1 gig of ram..... I can't VM
[09:51] <OxDeadC0de> (except intels original ia64 line)
[09:51] <OxDeadC0de> get a job for a day or two and buy some good 16gb of good ram Organicanarchy?
[09:51] <cfhowlett> kriss_, delete your history completely, block popups.  add adblock and see if the behavior returns.  and stay away from pretty pictures!
[09:51] <OxDeadC0de> oh wait, china.
[09:51] <kriss_> cfhowlett, when i go to same site on firefox its no problem. just chromium that acts up..
[09:52] <cfhowlett> kriss_, try the methods I've posted above and test it
[09:52] <kriss_> though im still wondering how a complete remove via synaptic still keeps history and everything after a install of chromium again
[09:52] <kriss_> i thought "completely remove" meant actually removing all traces of the program
[09:53] <cfhowlett> kriss_, sudo apt-get purge && sudo apt-get autoremove   otherwise config files stay in /home
[09:53] <CiSense> hi, can i keep 13.04 and install 13.10 in a separate partition then use grub to select at boot?
[09:53] <OxDeadC0de> Organicanarchy: I thought all the ram was made in china anyway? Wouldn't that make it cheaper to buy there?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> Kriss remove doesn't mean purge
[09:53] <DJones> CiSense: Yes you can
[09:53]  * OxDeadC0de gets censored.
[09:53] <CiSense> DJones, thanks
[09:54] <Kriss3d> cfhowlett, so i should manually purge with apt-get ?
[09:54] <Organicanarchy> OxDeadC0de im just gonna tinker with this thing until I have enough to buy a new computer
[09:54] <cfhowlett> Kriss3d, and then run autoremove to clear out orphans
[09:54] <DJones> CiSense: You just need to have space for a seperate partition, or have to create one by shrinking a current one during the install, if you do the latter just make sure you have a backup of anything important just case shrinking a partition causes a problem
[09:55] <DJones> CiSense: You can use the same swap partition for the 2nd install
[09:55] <Kriss3d> so sudo apt-get autoremove chromium ?
[09:56] <Organicanarchy> another dumb question: is it possible to dual boot, then have ubuntu partition take over windows 7'
[09:56] <cfhowlett> Kriss3d, sudo apt-get purge chromium && sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:56] <Kriss3d> Organicanarchy,  you mean go into the windows directory ? sure
[09:56] <Kriss3d> cfhowlett,  ty
[09:57] <OxDeadC0de> Organicanarchy: what do you mean 'take over windows 7'?
[09:57] <Organicanarchy> Kriss3d i mean dual boot, copy all my info over, then stretch my ubuntu partition to overwrite windows 7
[09:57] <cfhowlett> Kriss3d, you could also try running chromium in incognito mode.  I've set both my browsers to default to incognito - then again, I'm paranoid
[09:57] <Organicanarchy> you too, OxDeadC0de
[09:57] <OxDeadC0de> yes.
[09:58] <mjayk> Organicanarchy: you can format your windows partition inside ubuntu then have a seperate free partition
[09:58] <OxDeadC0de> resize the linux partition and delete the windows one.. once you decide to erase windows.
[09:58] <OxDeadC0de> or you can mount the windows partition in linux, and use it for storage.
[09:58] <OxDeadC0de> and keep windows intact for booting later.
[09:58] <Organicanarchy> OxDeadC0de can I do that from gparted? make my XP partiition smaller and whatnot
[09:59] <Kriss3d> cfhowlett, thats why im trying to get my hands on a working ISO for Attack vector - kali with everything running via tor by default
[09:59] <david> hello
[09:59] <OxDeadC0de> pretty sure it supports resize these days, but, last time I tried resizing a windows partition outside of windows disk manager, it killed windows thinking it was hijacked to a different systems since the partition size was different.
[09:59] <cfhowlett> Kriss3d, I understood half of that :)
[10:00] <Kriss3d> cfhowlett, you be glad youre not in Denmark then.. Our PM just said in a press conference that NSA most certainly isnt spying on us ILLEGALLY.. That raised a few issues when she couldnt give an answer to whether they spied on us LEGALLY..
[10:00] <hornypsycho> guys
[10:00] <OxDeadC0de> windows disk manager updates some security file(s?) that gparted didn't, but that was durring vista.
[10:00] <hornypsycho> i just started ubuntu
[10:00] <pulsar78> hi need to connect to bluetooth device on boot (have to do this manually now)
[10:00] <Organicanarchy> hornypsycho Welcome!
[10:00] <hornypsycho> and there is no title bar on any window
[10:01] <cfhowlett> Kriss3d, assume you're monitored.  clean up your act.  use *** alternatives but don't trust them
[10:01] <hornypsycho> i can't close/minimize. and they aren't showing in the window buttons
[10:01] <Kriss3d> cfhowlett, attack vector is a kali (debian based) pentest distro. its meant to be disposable
[10:01] <hornypsycho> i am using xubuntu btw
[10:01] <OxDeadC0de> assume big brother watches you masterbate and knows exactly what porno's you watched on that website that time you creeper.
[10:01] <Kriss3d> yeah ive stopped trusting anything american.. sorry. I dont dislike americans at all. just.. any american product i wont trust anymore.
[10:02] <cfhowlett> Kriss3d, noted.  thanks.
[10:02] <Organicanarchy> did Kali replace Backtrack?
[10:03] <OxDeadC0de> or, assume some creeper actually did that. a buddy of mine came to me with a laptop she just bought, it seemed okay. I didn't see a need to wipe the os and put a new one on.. but the dude who sold it put malware on that took pictures every X seconds on it. Whether they where uploaded somewhere or not I don't know
[10:03] <hornypsycho> anyone?
[10:03] <David321> hello
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> !kali | Organicanarchy
[10:03] <Kriss3d> Organicanarchy,  yeah kali did replace BT..
[10:03] <Organicanarchy> David321 whats up?
[10:03] <Organicanarchy> I figured
[10:03] <David321> Does anyone here have any expierence with installing Ubuntu-12.04.03-server 64bit under a VM ?
[10:03] <David321> running into some problems ^^
[10:03] <OxDeadC0de> Kriss3d: nothing is made in america anymore. everything is made in china. so uhh.
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> !details | David321
[10:05] <Kriss3d> OxDeadC0de, yeah i think ill start coding my own OS.. haha.. well Ill attempt to stick to european stuff
[10:05] <David321> Well, pretty much for VM up and running, loading a Ubuntu Server Iso (12.04.3) and I get error on the gfx
[10:05] <David321> Gives a display monitor error 314, when I type help
[10:05] <David321> I figured out how to get abit further
[10:05] <OxDeadC0de> Kriss3d: uhm. what? why?
[10:05] <hornypsycho> no one can help me? :c
[10:05] <David321> with like giving install command with vga specifics
[10:06] <David321> it seems to want to boot but I just end up with a black screen after that
[10:06] <hitsujiTMO> David321: what virtualisation solution are you using and what is the EXACT error
[10:06] <David321> i
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> re-ask your issue here in chat once in a while or ask in #xubuntu
[10:06] <David321> I'm using KVM under Centos on a PowerEdge 1950
[10:06] <Kriss3d> OxDeadC0de, well when pretty much every major contry gets caught spying.. what else to do ??
[10:06] <David321> sec i'll copy the exact error
[10:07] <hitsujiTMO> David321: have you nstalled xorg onto the server?
[10:07] <Organicanarchy> Kriss3d whatever the hell you want
[10:07] <OxDeadC0de> Kriss3d: linux kernel and gnu os? At least it's open and anybodies eyes can review the code.
[10:07] <David321> "Undefined Video Mode 314 "
[10:07] <Organicanarchy> Kriss3d when they're always watching, might as well do what you want anyway
[10:07] <OxDeadC0de> and it's not 'european' , it was made by many, many people.
[10:08] <OxDeadC0de> But as soon as you send a packet over a network, dude, it just passed through 60-100-10000 different routers.
[10:08] <OxDeadC0de> anybody could copy that packet and read it.
[10:08] <David321> Nope, no packages found with xorg (i'm very new to using linux, but I have some expierence with DOS)
[10:08] <Kriss3d> cfhowlett, thats.. odd.. i did purge.. autoremove and after installing chromium AGAIN.. it still remembers the last pr0nsite i was on..
[10:09] <Kriss3d> David321, i used to be quite experienced in DOS as well but linux is NOTHING like Dos..
[10:09] <cfhowlett> Kriss3d, I'd say the url was hijacked but you stated that this did NOT happen with Firefox?
[10:09] <hitsujiTMO> David321: can you try the vga=0 kernel flag
[10:09] <Kriss3d> though in Windows when i go CLI i always accidently type ls instead of dir
[10:09] <David321> I have tried this, it results into getting bit further but then black screen
[10:09] <David321> have also tried vga=normal and vga=ask
[10:10] <David321> those result into a direct freeze
[10:10] <hitsujiTMO> is there a vga=788 there in the kernel options?
[10:10] <Kriss3d> OxDeadC0de,  yeah most all sites i need are USa based.. but i belive the TOR 2.0 is on drawing board now
[10:10] <Kriss3d> cfhowlett,  exactly.
[10:10] <David321> well the ISO I have doesn't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[10:11] <David321> I added that line upon the installation boot
[10:11] <OxDeadC0de> Kriss3d: Do you understand most sites, are run on personal computers on some cable or dsl line in somebodies house?
[10:11] <Kriss3d> interessting.. when i open a cognito window and browse same site it still gives me those popups
[10:11] <OxDeadC0de> so if most sites you need are in the us, what's that mean?
[10:12] <Kriss3d> OxDeadC0de, uhmm well i doubt most sites are run off private computers..
[10:12] <OxDeadC0de> stop using chromium and use chrome, and use incognito tabs for your pr0n?
[10:12] <OxDeadC0de> :P
[10:12] <OxDeadC0de> they used to be Kriss3d
[10:12] <cfhowlett> Kriss3d, sounds like it could be a chromium hack ..
[10:12] <Organicanarchy> yeah, whast the diff between chromium and chrome? isnt chrome just chromium with google's name on it?
[10:13] <Kriss3d> cfhowlett,  yeah.. but mostly its odd that chromium keeps remembering my last site after purge
[10:13] <Kriss3d> Organicanarchy,  yes it is
[10:13] <OxDeadC0de> probably just some temp file in some ./.chromium/ (or similar) folder that saves a url that was forgotten to be added to the 'purge' list
[10:14] <Kriss3d> ive made a bash script to collect entire galleries from imagefap and its awsome but i need to see which galleries to get
[10:14] <OxDeadC0de> done.
[10:14] <OxDeadC0de> bye.
[10:14] <Organicanarchy> bye nigga
[10:14] <Kriss3d> OxDeadC0de, yeah i suppose i could try to manually remove that folder
[10:14] <David321> Hmmm so I run Virt-Install with the proper lines to make a virtual disk and specific a iso to boot and install on.
[10:15] <pulsar78> i do not have /etc/default/bluetooth ?
[10:15] <pulsar78> where do i place my autoconnect settings ?
[10:15] <hitsujiTMO> David321: can you try vga=771 that should at least work
[10:15] <David321> then I get graphics initialization failed
[10:15] <David321> Error setting up gfxboot
[10:15] <Kriss3d> otherwise chrome/chromium is quite a nice browser except if you download somthing that anoying bar takes up alot of space on the screen
[10:15] <Kriss3d> and you cant have it NOT show up..
[10:16] <David321> then if I go on and just type install
[10:16] <David321> I get that monitor error
[10:16] <David321> will try with install vga=771 now
[10:16] <David321> Undefined Video Mode 314
[10:16] <David321> when I try that
[10:17] <David321> Get some option to enter to go and select something (which just ends up freezing)
[10:17] <David321> And waiting or continueing just ends up freezing as well
[10:18] <David321> ugh wrong copy past btw
[10:18] <David321> when I try 771 I get a different error
[10:18] <nullbyte_> xfce and kvirc, how?
[10:19] <David321> undefined video mode number:303
[10:19] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, and what was the error for vga=0 again?
[10:19] <David321> none
[10:19] <David321> It goes to a blackscreen
[10:19] <David321> and does nothing when I do that
[10:20] <hitsujiTMO> David321: can you remove quiet and spalsh if they are there and do vga=0 then
[10:21] <David321> only thing I inputted was : install vga=0
[10:22] <David321> Funny thing is, I can get it to work in the Graphical interface, just not trew damn console.
[10:22] <hitsujiTMO> David321: try acpi=off vga=791
[10:23] <David321> Undefined Video Mode number : 317
[10:25] <hitsujiTMO> David321: vga=770        does kvm seriously not support such common video modes?
[10:25] <David321> Trying, and I don't know tbh, from what i've googled it seems to be more of a problem of the boot not reckognizing some type of onboard videocards or something.
[10:26] <David321> Undefined Video mode number : 302
[10:26] <hitsujiTMO> David321: yes is whatever virtual gfx card the kvm is emulating has a very restrictive set of video mode support
[10:27] <David321> ahhh so it's not the actual onboard card but the one KVM is simulating
[10:28] <David321> well, the small moment the Ubuntu install tool is working
[10:29] <David321> It's only actually giving me 1 valid suggestion
[10:29] <baizon> hi, i need help with my laptop and ubuntu + UEFI. My system isnt booting after installation. Tried this, but still no boot. http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/ubuntu-13-10-64-bit-auf-lenovo-s205-installier/#post-6093622
[10:29] <David321> which is basically vga=0
[10:29] <hitsujiTMO> David321: can you try running qemu-kvm with -vga qxl
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | baizon
[10:30] <baizon> lotuspsychje: im sitting 4 hours now, do you think i didnt tried that website?
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> baizon: did you disable secure boot?
[10:30] <baizon> lotuspsychje: i cant. bios doesnt have that option
[10:31] <hitsujiTMO> David321: or at least try and cgange the vga adapter to something else that might be available on the system
[10:31] <David321> hmmm i'll see what I can do on that part. In the graphical interface that's quiet easy to do.
[10:31] <David321> not sure how to do that in the console
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> baizon: ive been able to install ubuntu on an uefi machine out of the box, didnt have to change anything
[10:32] <baizon> well, my system isnt booting
[10:32] <OxDeadC0de> vga=ask
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> baizon: what does it say?
[10:32] <baizon> lotuspsychje: nothing
[10:32] <OxDeadC0de> brings up a neat menu that displays a bunch of modes to try!
[10:32] <baizon> no grub menu, nothing
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> baizon: what was default Os on your machine?
[10:33] <baizon> lotuspsychje: of course Windows 7
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> baizon: did you install ubuntu on whole hd or dualboot with win7?
[10:34] <baizon> whole
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> baizon: so after reboot, nothing happens?
[10:34] <baizon> no boot, no
[10:34] <the_drow> Hi guys, I had ubuntu 13.04 running with linux kernel 3.8.0-33 generic and the external screen of my laptop just stopped working. I upgraded to saucy which uses 3.11.0-13 and the external screen started working again.
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> baizon: you sure there's no hidden bios feature to disable secure boot?
[10:34] <baizon> lotuspsychje: 100%
[10:35] <the_drow> I have no lead for why this happened or a log I can show you guys but should I report it somewhere?
[10:35] <ola2> set read/write file permission to some file in linux
[10:35] <ola2> chmod ???
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> baizon: did you try with other versions of ubuntu?
[10:35] <ola2> plz help
[10:35] <the_drow> or there's no point since I haven't got much info
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> !chmod | ola2
[10:35] <ola2> just read/write to all users and groups
[10:35] <baizon> lotuspsychje: tried, 12.04, 13.04 and now 13.10
[10:35] <ola2> !chmod
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> baizon: all same? no boot?
[10:35] <baizon> yes
[10:35] <ola2> ubottu: i have read that
[10:35] <ola2> but problem is that
[10:36] <ola2> plz help chmod what to need just read/write for all users and groups
[10:36] <ola2> chmod ??? for read/write for all users and groups
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> baizon: doublecheck your device in ##hardware maybe, if its possible to disable secure boot
[10:37] <ianmac1> ola2, where? which directory?
[10:37] <ola2> any directory
[10:37] <baizon> lotuspsychje: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij9To78Wt3w <- there you have all bios options
[10:37] <ola2> thats the main thing
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> baizon: if you are able to install ubuntu, you should be able to boot aswell
[10:37] <baizon> thats all i have
[10:37] <Kriss3d> OxDeadC0de, ahh i had a plugin that wasnt showing up in chrome://plugins but under the regular settings - addons.. it was "Edit this cookie" that somhow kept fucking up
[10:37] <baizon> lotuspsychje: yes, booting from usb is working, but not from hdd
[10:38] <IdleOne> Kriss3d: no swearing please
[10:38] <ianmac1> ola2, if you go messing with permissions of files outside your /home you will likely break something
[10:38] <Kriss3d> sorry
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> baizon: should be able, lemme check link
[10:38] <David321> Well thanks for the help at least, gonna try some other VGA settings in KVM itself now I know where the problem comes from
[10:39] <ola2> ianmacl:thats what i want to do
[10:39] <ola2> is it possible
[10:39] <ianmac1> ola2, you want to break things?!
[10:39] <__raven> 12.04.3 + suspend/hibernate: how to debug resume/wakeup crashes?
[10:39] <ola2> break things meaning??
[10:40] <ianmac1> ola2, meaning, make the system not work correctly
[10:40] <cfhowlett> ola2, frag your system
[10:40] <ola2> no user will change some files
[10:40] <ola2> specific ones
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> baizon: did you set HD to first boot again after installing with usb?
[10:40] <cfhowlett> ola2, your machine, your risk
[10:40] <ola2> yeah
[10:40] <ola2> plz help
[10:40] <ianmac1> ola2, Sorry, I can't help you
[10:41] <ola2> 776 is not working
[10:41] <baizon> lotuspsychje: yes
[10:41] <ola2> im using 776
[10:41] <ola2> but not working permission denied
[10:41] <__raven> 12.04.3 + suspend/hibernate: how to debug resume/wakeup crashes?
[10:41] <ianmac1> ola2, yeah, that's a safety feature.. so you don't break something ;)
[10:41] <cfhowlett> It's a sign
[10:42] <ola2> ianmacl:one more thing i want to make repository
[10:42] <ola2> but offline
[10:42] <ola2> how to do that
[10:43] <ola2> means i will add-apt-repo.. offline on frnd machine
[10:43] <ianmac1> ola2, sorry, can't help you
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> baizon: maybe this can help: http://pastebin.com/0R1jXyzM
[10:43] <ola2> ok
[10:43] <baizon> lotuspsychje: tried that already, didnt work :(
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> baizon: also used the 64bit one?
[10:45] <baizon> lotuspsychje: yes
[10:45] <OerHeks> ola2, maybe these 2 pages are any help >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/170348/how-to-make-my-own-local-repository  >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> baizon: how about this1: https://lugbruchsal.de/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=doku:ubuntu_12.04_auf_lenovo_s205_installieren
[10:46] <baizon> lotuspsychje: yes, tried that. Didnt work also. Thats why ive tried this: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/ubuntu-13-10-64-bit-auf-lenovo-s205-installier/#post-6093622
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> baizon: not sure then mate
[10:47] <baizon> thats my problem too
[10:47] <baizon> 4 hours and no result :(
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> baizon: never had one machine that doesnt wanna boot ubuntu
[10:48] <baizon> :(
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> baizon: any bios flash updates can fix that uefi?
[10:50] <baizon> lotuspsychje: well same problem http://jamesnsheri.com/ubuntu-lenove-s205-no-longer-boots-after-upgrade-13-04-13-10/
[10:50] <__raven> 12.04.3 + suspend/hibernate: how to debug resume/wakeup crashes?
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> baizon: not sure bios flash will solve, but worth a try: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS018589
[10:54] <baizon> lotuspsychje: did the upgrade already
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> baizon: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59176/advisable-to-install-with-uefi-only-or-legacy-bios-setting-on-lenovo-thinkpa?rq=1
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> baizon: or this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/279910/unable-to-efi-boot-after-ubuntu-12-10-install-lenovo-e30
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> bbl dinnertime
[11:02] <helpme1> Hi guys, could someone please help me? I can only boot ubuntu on my laptop with acpi=off and I'm not sure how to fix it.
[11:06] <zack_> can I install kaspersky antivirus
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !virus|zack_,
[11:09] <jdimatteo> lscpu shows the cpu speed scaled back if in energy saving mode, right?  how can I check the full speed or if turbo mode is possible?
[11:09] <DJones> zack_: Looks like they do have a Linux version http://www.kaspersky.co.uk/anti-virus_linux_workstation but doesn't look like its been updated since 2008
[11:10] <DJones> zack_: Doesn't appear available for currently supported versions of Ubuntu anyway
[11:14] <buu> jdimatteo: Just run something that consumes all of a cpu and see if the mhz changes..
[11:14] <buu> jdimatteo: In short if you're using an intel chip it will just work.
[11:16] <jdimatteo> buu: it is an amd chip, not an intel chip — does your method only work for intel chips?
[11:17] <zack_> i can't install samba what can i do
[11:18] <buu> jdimatteo: No, it should be the same, I just haven't tested an amd chip in a while.
[11:18] <buu> jdimatteo: run ffmpeg or gcc or something and watch your reported cpu mhz
[11:18] <OerHeks> zack_, why not?
[11:19] <jdimatteo> ok, cool, thanks bbu!
[11:19] <zack_> unable to resolve host name is comes
[11:20] <buu> jdimatteo: perl -le'while(1){do 2**31}' & cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz
[11:21] <buu> Hrm.
[11:21] <zack_> couldn't find package upgraded
[11:21] <buu> perl -le'while(1){do 2**31}' & sleep 2; cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz; kill %1
[11:21] <zack_> oerHeks
[11:21] <buu> Slightly more kamusing.
[11:22] <OerHeks> zack_, can you post the full command and error in paste.ubuntu.com
[11:24] <zack_> zack@danny:~$ sudo apt-get install samba
[11:24] <zack_> sudo: unable to resolve host danny
[11:24] <zack_> [sudo] password for zack:
[11:24] <zack_> [sudo] password for zack:
[11:24] <zack_> zack@danny:~$ sudo apt-get install samba
[11:24] <FloodBot1> zack_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:24] <M00sL0gB0t> ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/willie/coretasks.py", line 132, in track_modes)
[11:24] <OerHeks> zack_, please, you have been here before and know how paste.ubuntu.com works , come on
[11:25] <baizon> lotuspsychje: now its working :)
[11:26] <DJones> !details | M00sL0gB0t
[11:28] <Zorky> I have sat locale to danish to change the language. but right click menues are still in english. and it's impossible to find a danish locale file thats correct. Can any one help me regarding this ?
[11:29] <OerHeks> Zorky, after changing locale, try running update, does the missing translations show up?
[11:30] <bazhang> !test > M00sL0gB0t
[11:30] <OerHeks> Zorky, after update, logout and back in again, and it should be fine
[11:30] <Zorky> OerHeks:  some of the stuff are in the correct language. but something are still in english
[11:30] <Zorky> OerHeks:  i rebooted the machine after i edited the locale file
[11:33] <Zorky> Any one who can post a working locale file?
[11:33] <exported> Zorky, locale-gen? xD idk lol
[11:34] <Zorky> ./etc/default/locale <— that file
[11:34] <exported> i don't have one of those :/
[11:35] <exported> idk the location of it in Ubuntu.
[11:35] <Zorky> i just posted the location for that file
[11:35] <Zorky> it's sudo nano /etc/default/locale
[11:36] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: have you installed all the language danish packs for the DE?
[11:36] <hitsujiTMO> danish language packs*
[11:37] <exported> Zorky, what does locale -a  say?
[11:37] <Zorky> long list
[11:37] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  yes both of the files are install
[11:37] <OerHeks> "sudo locale-gen da_DA.UTF-8 && sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales "
[11:37] <Zorky> da and da-base
[11:37] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: both? there should be more than 2
[11:38] <exported> Zorky, in arch linux i set the locale in /etc/locale.conf so idk about how ubuntu would do it. sorry i can't help ya lol OerHeks looks like he knows what's going on xD
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: what about gnome-da and gnome-da-base?
[11:39] <Madhurranjan> Hi, I have an nfs share that is actually 80% full , but in df -h , it shows its 100%. On going to the actual directory and running 'df -h' i see its  80% full . Umounting and mounting it  back still shows that the disk is 100% full .Any thoughts on how this can be resolved ?
[11:39] <Zorky> exported:  the file is the same in your distro as in ubuntu. in ubuntu it's just call'd locale
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: da and da-base is only cli stuff
[11:40] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  that might be why the rightclick menues are still in english
[11:40] <hitsujiTMO> zorky: thats why there's a gui for lang support. System Settings -> Language Support.
[11:41] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  im doing this on a 12.04lts server edition
[11:41] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: what DE?
[11:41] <Zorky> DE?
[11:42] <exported> Zorky, why run a Gui on a server? :o or are you?
[11:42] <Zorky> exported:  im running x2go on the server.
[11:42] <hitsujiTMO> zorky: desktop environment
[11:42] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  unity
[11:42] <Madhurranjan> I tried a df --sync and it shows that its used up all the blocks .How do i fix this issue ? There is a lot of unused disk space.
[11:43] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: so you've converted ubuntu-server into ubuntu-desktop then?
[11:43] <Zorky> more or less
[11:43] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: how exactly did you install unity?
[11:43] <Zorky> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:44] <exported> Zorky, ...why not just run ssh and cut out xserver all together lol
[11:44] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: then you should find the gui language stuff in: System Settings -> Language Support.
[11:45] <exported> oh are you using it as a local "main system" for other "terminals"?
[11:46] <Zorky> exported:  the server runs ubuntu server 12.04lts with ubuntu-dekstop (unity) running x2go to run thin clients
[11:46] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: anyhow installing language-pack-gnome-da and language-pack-gnome-da-base should hopefully be enough to get you going. not sure if there's another envvar to tell unity what language to use tho
[11:46] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  Everything in language support is in danish. except help and close.
[11:46] <OerHeks> Zorky, and do not forget to apply system-wide
[11:47] <exported> Zorky, makes sense now lol
[11:47] <exported> g2g all
[11:49] <Guest37186> how to set  audio latency with terminal?
[11:49] <Guest37186> jackd to 41k, 4096
[11:54] <bibi346> I have an old computer on which I've installed ubuntu, after +1 hour of use the screen gets frozen. I think it could be an hardware issue, how can I know which part of the computer is broken?
[11:55] <Guest37186> I'm using Jackd but can't find a thing for set Jackd to 41k, 4096 via terminal
[11:59] <simpleuser> Hello there. When i booted my eeePc today, i saw that my shortcuts with fn + Fx don't work anymore. But I don't know why. Any idea ?
[12:04] <phibonacci> Hi I added a section to my xorg.conf hoping to get my rat5 mouse to work, now my rig hangs on the ubuntu logo with the red dots below it on startup any ideas?
[12:04] <Danato> can somebody help me resize my ext4 partition? I already have unallocated space and im on the live cd but gparted wont let me increase the size of the partition
[12:04] <phibonacci> I also cannot edit the xorg.conf from the root shell or via live environment
[12:05] <phibonacci> I thought i may be able to comment out the additions, but no luck so far
[12:05] <Zorky> Danato:  use parted magic instead
 ok ill download it
[12:06] <Zorky> Danato:  you might have to get a boot cd with parted magic on. since the OS on the HDD you are trying to resize might interfere
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Danato: is the partition mounted?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: he is booted to the livecd, so isnt in use
[12:07] <phibonacci> How can I access my xorg.conf if my rig won't boot?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> phibonacci: boot to root recovery mode
 the live cd I have comes with gparted, and i jst googled parted magic, its not free to download apparently
[12:07] <phibonacci> the root shell appears to have no write access
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Danato: is the partition you want to manipulate mounted?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> phibonacci: mount -o remount,rw /
[12:08] <phibonacci> ActionParsnip: the root shell yes?
 yeah i guess, its where i already have ubuntu installed, but i wanna increase its capacity
[12:08] <phibonacci> gimme 5 I'll try it
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> phibonacci: yes, it will mount readonly by default, you can remount it writable
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Danato: then unmount it, then you can manipulate it
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Danato: unmount any partitions you have mounted and check the liveCD is not using swap on the drive too (if it has swap space)
 wait if its not mounted by default then its not mounted
[12:10] <totalnewbie> Hey!
[12:10] <totalnewbie> I have a problem with Transmission for 12.04.
[12:10] <phibonacci> ActionParsnip: that's the rw command you've given me?
[12:10] <Rory> totalnewbie: Just explain your problem, without the introduction
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> phibonacci: mount -o remount,rw /
 mind to tell me how to unmount it? its on /dev/sda4
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> Danato: it may be in use, you dont know what the guy has been clicking
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> Danato: sudo umount /dev/sda4
[12:11] <Danato> ActionParsnip: it wasnt mounted
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Danato: and the swap?
[12:12] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  why should he unmount from the terminal. when gparted can do all this?
[12:12] <Danato> ActionParsnip: i ddnt create a swap disk
[12:12] <Danato> ActionParsnip: i meant partition
[12:13] <Zorky> Danato:  gparted should be able to unmount all the disks for you. if you right click the disks
[12:13] <phibonacci> ActionParsnip: worked a treat, I've got access to the system again.  You, sir or madam, are a veritable star
 the disk is not mounted
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> phibonacci: I'm a dude :)
[12:13] <sgo11> hi, I install a driver by recompiling my kernel. Now, I boot into the new kernel. how can I check if my driver is included or not? currently, I don't have the device by hand. so just want to check if the driver is installed or not. thanks.
[12:13] <phibonacci> :)
[12:14] <Zorky> Danato:  unmount all the disks.
[12:14] <phibonacci> now I just need to get the new mouse to behave
 none of them are mounted, jst checked
[12:15] <Zorky> Danato:  and gparted still can't resize?
 it only cant resize the ext4 partition that i wanna increase
[12:16] <Zorky> Danato:  just checking. where is the ext4 partition located on the partition table?
 /dev/sda4
[12:16] <Zorky> and there is freespace behind that. so you can create a partition 5?
[12:16] <totalnewbie> When I go onto a torrent-downloading website, I am unable to download the .torrent file. Instead, Firefox only gives me the option of opening the link with an application. THere are two applications available, but neither of them is the thing that I want.
[12:17] <totalnewbie> (One is utorrent.exe, one is the tar.gz for Tor Browser.)
[12:17] <sgo11> anyone please?
[12:17] <Zorky> sgo11:  ask your question again
[12:17] <sgo11> Zorky, hi, I install a driver by recompiling my kernel. Now, I boot into the new kernel. how can I check if my driver is included or not? currently, I don't have the device by hand. so just want to check if the driver is installed or not. thanks.
[12:17] <totalnewbie> Anyway, when I go to Choose Application, I cant find Transmission anywhere. Where are applications stored, in terms of files and folders? I cant search for it, either.
[12:18] <Zorky> sgo11:  ugf. sorry can't help you with that one
[12:18] <totalnewbie> Maybe the problem is with Firefox, I think, because I should be able to download the .torrent file? But I dont know.
 no, it says that i cant create more than 4 primary partitions
[12:18] <Zorky> Danato:  is there freespace behind the 4th partition
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> totalnewbie: tell it to use /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[12:19] <sgo11> Zorky, no worries. :) thanks.
 well its right bellow the 2nd partition
[12:19] <auronandace> !screenshot | Danato
[12:19] <Danato> no problem
[12:20] <pc100_> hello
[12:20] <totalnewbie> ActionParsnip: How do I do that? I dont have any box where I can enter that information, in either the window that comes up giving me the option to Choose Application, or the Choose App window itself.
[12:21] <Zorky> Danato:  I think your problem lies in. there is no unallocated space between partition 4 and the next partition. but you have unallocated space some place else. maybe behind partition 3. the space behind partition 3 can't be used to extend partition 4. or the space infront of partition 4.
[12:22] <totalnewbie> ActionParsnip: Im dumb, never mind, figured out. Thanks a lot!
 http://imagebin.org/276852
[12:24] <Zorky> Danato:  read what i wrote before. that just answered why you can't extend the sd4 partition
 so is there a way to move the unallocated space?
[12:24] <auronandace> Danato: if you want to make sda4 bigger you'll need to move sad3 first
[12:24] <Zorky> Danato:  no. you need to remove partition in order to do that
[12:24] <Zorky> Danato:  or i might be wrong it seems
[12:25] <Rory> Danato: You can move the partition to the left, but expect it to take a long time
[12:27] <Danato> now that I think about it, ive had a software that move data from a place to another, moving the unallocated space to where i want, but dont remember its name
[12:28] <auronandace> Danato: you don't move the space, you move the partitions
[12:28] <Rory> Danato: I'm reasonably sure gparted can move your /dev/sda3 partition to the left into that gap, thus freeing up space for you to expand your /dev/sda4
[12:28] <Lope> I've got a script: /home/lope/scripts/backup. Its in my path. I can run it from anywhere. but I want to run it with sudo. when I try run it with sudo it says command not found.
[12:29] <Danato> Rory: how can i do that?
[12:29] <marlo> ubuntu 'failed to start program - path or permissions wrong' ?
[12:29] <marlo> from QtCreator
[12:29] <Rory> Lope: It needs to be in the root user's $PATH as well. Consider copying it to the /usr/local/bin folder
[12:29] <Danato> Rory: ah nvm got it ;)
[12:29] <Danato> yeah it can be done
[12:30] <Rory> Danato: Like I said though, expect it to take a while, not like growing a partition which is semi-instant
[12:30] <Lope> sudo echo $PATH shows that /home/lope/scripts is in my $PATH. sudo zsh; echo $PATH; also shows /home/lope/scripts is in my path. "sudo zsh; backup;" works. but "sudo backup" from lope says command not found.
[12:30] <Lope> Rory: please see my last line. it IS in root's path.
[12:30] <Danato> Rory: thats ok, thanks guys
[12:31] <hitsujiTMO> Lope $PATH is evaluated before the command is executed. thats your $PATH not roots path
[12:31] <Zorky> Danato:  it will properly take multiple hours to do.
[12:32] <Rory> Lope: There are a few workarounds here, but I still recommend, if you want that script to be available system-wide, putting it in /usr/local/bin http://stackoverflow.com/questions/257616/sudo-changes-path-why
[12:32] <Lope> hitsujiTMO: please take note I also went into a root zsh and echo'd $PATH.
[12:32] <Zorky> Danato:  if you cancel the process meanwhile you move. it will corrupt the partition. i suggest you set it to do it over night
[12:33] <davidw> hrm.... latest chrome update do something funky?
[12:33] <Lope> Rory: but "sudo zsh; backup" works. so why doesn't "sudo backup" work ?
[12:33] <Rory> Lope: "sudo zsh; echo $PATH" doesn't do that by the way
 its night time here, I wouldnt mind, but its giving me some errors, i cant proceed
[12:33] <Rory> Lope: Do "sudo zsh" and then in the shell that starts, run "echo $PATH"
[12:33] <hitsujiTMO> Lope; before ANYTHING you wrote in that is executed $PATH is evaluated. that DID NOT echo roots path!
[12:34] <Zorky> Danato:  what errors?
[12:35] <hitsujiTMO> Lope. write a script with "echo $PATH"  and then run that script with sudo to see what roots path is
 it doesnt tell anyhing important, jst that there was an error, the details jst say that it couldnt move the partition to the left
[12:37] <hitsujiTMO> Lope: or at least: run sudo -i.  and then echo $PATH
[12:37] <Lope> Rory: I did run the commands separately I was just putting the semi colon inbetween because this is IRC and I wanted to write it shorthand.
  ah wait
[12:38] <Lope> I ran the command echo $PATH as root@mypc, promise.
  its a bunch of errors saying things like Cluster accounting failed at (#######): missing cluster in $Bitmap
[12:39] <Zorky> Danato:  im sorry i can't help with that. maybe someone else here can
[12:40] <hitsujiTMO> Lope: how exactly did you add the path to roots $PATH ?
  no problems, thanks anyways
[12:40] <tpw_phone> Hey all. How do I boot into some sort if single user mode with UEFI? Has a bit of a power incident and want to make sure my disks are consistent. Tried holding and tapping both ESC and left shift, but no dice. Im not convinced I actually have grub
[12:43] <hitsujiTMO> tpw_phone: have you tried right shift?
[12:43] <Lope> hitsujiTMO: okay I took your advice and created a bash script that echos path and then ran that with sudo.
[12:43] <Lope> /home/lope/scripts was NOT in that path.
[12:43] <tpw_phone> hitsujiTMO: I can, but I was specifically told left shift
[12:43] <Lope> weird how sudo zsh and then echo $PATH was giving me lope's $PATH even though the shell said root@mypc.
[12:43] <sgo11> let me change my question. how to check all hid drivers installed in the system?
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> tpw_phone: it seems to differ. I've seen documentation the says the correct key is right shift for grub 2. but esc is what does it for me. it seems to be very inconsistent
[12:44] <bartzy> Hello
[12:44] <bartzy> Why aptitude install (with no packages as arguments) wants to install stuff from time to time ?
[12:45] <tpw_phone> Again thoug, I don't seem to be using grub
[12:46] <Zorky> How would i set up a shared folder in /home/sharedfoldernamehere that 2 users can enter from a shortcut and save files into from their desktops
[12:46] <gordonjcp> Zorky: remotely?
[12:46] <Zorky> no locally
[12:46] <gordonjcp> oh
[12:46] <gordonjcp> make it group-writeable
[12:46] <gordonjcp> add both users to the same group
[12:47] <gordonjcp> Zorky: bonus points for using umask to set it so that files are also automatically group-writeable
[12:47] <Zorky> gordonjcp:  they are. my problem lies in. i open libreoffice. i want to save my file into this folder. but i can't see the folder shortcut on the desktop
[12:47] <gordonjcp> Zorky: symlink
[12:48] <Zorky> gordonjcp:  please explain
[12:48] <gordonjcp> Zorky: a symlink, symbolic link, is a special type of file that represents the path to another file
[12:49] <Zorky> gordonjcp:  thanks :) how would i create this folder then?
[12:49] <gordonjcp> Zorky: well create a folder as normal, ensure it's group-writeable
[12:49] <tpw_phone> Yeah, pretty sure im not using grub
[12:49] <gordonjcp> create a group for both users
[12:49] <gordonjcp> add both users to that group *and make sure they log out and log back in*
[12:49] <hitsujiTMO> Lope: now, if you want to have access to that as root in an interactiver shell, you should symlink that file in /usr/local/sbin . if you're using a script (such as in cron ) you should specify the full path as cron jobs and some other scripts will not have a $PATH set
[12:50] <gordonjcp> Zorky: at this point, both users can write to files /home/shared/
[12:50] <Zorky> gordonjcp:  yes. they allready can. but i want them to access that folder from their desktops via a shortcut
[12:51] <gordonjcp> Zorky: now for both users, create a symbolic link from that directory to one on their desktop
[12:51] <gordonjcp> Zorky: something like "ln -s /home/shared ~/Desktop/"
[12:51] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: create a group for that share. chmod g+ws that sharedfolder. add the group to the users (they need to relog for that group to be picked up) and then ln -s a shorkcut to that folder
[12:52] <Celahir> hello, i've got an IRC server, with email nickserv registstration, how do i setup Sendmail correctly to get it working?  :x im fairly new @ ubuntu
[12:56] <Celahir> anyone?
[12:57] <hitsujiTMO> Celahir: you can just install sendmail ( i think the package is sendmail-bin ) but postfix is generally the preferred method now https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix    it can be a bit difficult to get them up and running such that the emails being sent are not going to spam
[12:58] <Celahir> hmm okay
[12:58] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  how do i add a group with groupadd that have the same rw as the shared folder.?
[12:59] <hitsujiTMO> zorky: groupadd groupname;    iforgot to say to: sudo chown root:groupname /home/sharedfolder
[13:00] <lord4163> Is there a PPA out there that provides PHP 5.5.5?
[13:00] <lord4163> A PPA that works I mean.
[13:01] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  okay. done that now. how would i create the shortcut for each user? sudo ln -s /home/faellesmappe /home/user/Desktop?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | lord4163
[13:01] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: once you've done that then: sudo chmod g+ws to /home/sharedfolder            the g+w makes it group writable, but the g+s is the cool bit that makes it that anything written to that folder retains the parent folders groupid. Normally if someone creates a file the file gets the ownership user:user
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: ln -s mhome/faellesmappe /home/user/Desktop/faellesmappe
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: ln -s /home/faellesmappe /home/user/Desktop/faellesmappe
[13:04] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  Ahh thanks :) im testing to see if it works now
[13:05] <Al__> Does anybody know how to get the ubuntu desktop going from a command line prompt?
[13:05] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: dont forget to relog to make sure your in the group.
[13:05] <jgcampbell300> I am looking for some software that can monitor my networks (over 250 devices in 23 locations) help me admin run as helpdesk ticketing system billing and runs and works with linux mac win and smart phones - tablets ... can anyone point me in a good directions
[13:05] <Celahir> ehm.
[13:05] <hitsujiTMO> Al__ startx
[13:05] <Al__> Thanks hitsugiTMO
[13:05] <Al__> oops, hitsuJiTMO
[13:05] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[13:06] <gordonjcp> jgcampbell300: nagios for monitoring, requesttracker for ticketing
[13:06] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  the user dosent have the right permissions.
[13:07] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: did you correctly: usermod -aG groupname user             and then relog?
[13:07] <jgcampbell300> gordonjcp, isnt nagios kina costly ... cant afford alot at first ... starting my own it firm from next to nothing
[13:08] <gordonjcp> jgcampbell300: don't buy the commercially-supported version then
[13:08] <jgcampbell300> gordonjcp, thanks for the info
[13:09] <gordonjcp> jgcampbell300: what sort of monitoring are you going to try to do?
[13:09] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  i did now
[13:09] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: and: sudo chmod g+ws /home/faellesmappe         ?
[13:09] <jgcampbell300> gordonjcp, well over 23 locations i have advrage 1 server rest are win 7 mac and linux desktops .. some tablets and phones
[13:10] <gordonjcp> jgcampbell300: right, but what do you want to monitor on them?
[13:10] <jgcampbell300> gordonjcp, just setup zabbix 2.2 but i dont think its built to do every thing i need it to do
[13:10] <Al__> hitsujiTMO, it had an error "user not authorized to start xserver"
[13:10] <dyens> !
[13:10] <dyens> !list
[13:10] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[13:11] <cse32564> hi
[13:11] <jgcampbell300> basic stuff like storage, cpu mem usage on servers updates ... would love to find something i could install software to them
[13:11] <Wiz_KeeD> My chromium instance shows me that youtube videos cannot be played 90% and everything else works on firefox, does anyone know what this may be?
[13:11] <cse32564> hellooooo
[13:11] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: thats an odd one. never seen that before.you generally don't need special permissions to startx
[13:11] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  i did that allrdy. but i can't access the foler
[13:11] <cfhowlett_> cse32564, greetings
[13:11] <cse32564> where are you from?
[13:11] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: ln -s /home/faellesmappe
[13:11] <jgcampbell300> just trying to cut way down on my time usage to fit more devices in ...  and would love to know when log files throw erroes
[13:12] <jgcampbell300> errors sorry
[13:12] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  did that. and the shortcut is on the users desktop
[13:12] <cse32564> cfhowlett_ where are you from? i am from greece
[13:12] <Al__> hitsujiTMO, well our tech. person is an odd one!
[13:12] <lord4163> I guess I need these flags to configure PHP? Am I right? http://pastebin.com/nRR03Vjr
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: sorry. ls -l /home/faellesmappe
[13:12] <Zorky> cannot access.
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: can you paste the output here plz
[13:12] <Zorky> it's in danish
[13:13] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: ls -l /home
[13:13] <cfhowlett_> cse32564, do you have an ubuntu support question for this channel?  otherwise please see #ubunt-offtopic for general chat
[13:13] <k1l> cse32564: we have the channel #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting. please stick to support in here
[13:13] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  root has access
[13:14] <jgcampbell300> gordonjcp, right now im doing well haveing vpn to each locations and have remote systems to do alot of things ... was just thinking maybe there is something out there to help me organize and automate some more stuff
[13:14] <cse32564> i don't know what is this...can you please explain me?
[13:14] <wedr> oh
[13:14] <Al__> hitsujiTMO, maybe startx will work for when I need it.  I just see it didn't work now (maybe because I already have the desktop running???
[13:14] <cfhowlett_> !ot|cse32564,
[13:14] <cfhowlett_> !topic|cse32564,
[13:14] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[13:14] <gordonjcp> jgcampbell300: you might want to look into cluster management stuff, even if you're not running a cluster
[13:14] <gordonjcp> jgcampbell300: it can be very handy for automating updates and stuff
[13:15] <jgcampbell300> gordonjcp, cool thats something i havent thought about ... thanks much
[13:15] <gordonjcp> Wiz_KeeD: yes, Chromium doesn't support Youtube any more
[13:15] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: can you paste the exact output of: ls -ld /home/faellesmappe
[13:15] <Al__> hitsujiTMO, I see you are busy help others but if you could tell me how to stop the desktop using terminal.  That would give me some clues.
[13:15] <Wiz_KeeD> gordonjcp, how come some of them work? and what do you mean it doesn't support youtube? :o
[13:15] <gordonjcp> Wiz_KeeD: it is apparently a deliberate decision on Google's part to make their two products not co-exist
[13:16] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  drwx------ 2 root faellesmappe 4096 nov 12 14:47 /home/faellesmappe/
[13:16] <Wiz_KeeD> ok, is this a bad joke and I'm supposed to laugh?
[13:16] <hitsujiTMO> al__ do you already have an x session running?
[13:16] <cfhowlett_> jgcampbell300, perhaps this would be a good question for #ubuntu-server?
[13:16] <gordonjcp> Wiz_KeeD: I think the theory is that everyone will move from youtube to Google+
[13:16] <jgcampbell300> cfhowlett_, another good thought ... thank you
[13:17] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: sudo chmod g+rwxs /home/faellesmappe
[13:17] <x101ch> hello
[13:17] <Al__> hitsujiTMO, sorry, I have no idea.  Thanks for telling me about the xstart command.  I will investigate.  Good luck helping zorky and others.  You are great!
[13:19] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: i've just tested here now. that indeed is an error if x is already running. try <ctrl> + <alt> + <f7>  to get to tty7
[13:19] <Zorky> hitsujiTMO:  i can access the folder now
[13:19] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | Zorky
[13:19] <Al__> hitsujiTMO, thanks for staying with me!
[13:20] <hitsujiTMO> al__ is the graphical x enviroment coming up for you in tty7?
[13:25] <dyens> Sorry, i have a problem with https connection... All settings is default. I have not iptables. I use firefox, chrome... Http connection work perfect. Where may be a problem?
[13:25] <DannyButterman> Hi there
[13:25] <Al__> hitsujiTMO, I have no idea.  Even though I have been using ubuntu versions for 5 years, I don't really know what you mean.
[13:27] <hitsujiTMO> al__: linux allows you to jumpt between different terminal sessions. you can do this with the <ctrl> + <alt> + <fKeys> combination. Xorg runs on tty7 to go swith to that use the key combination <ctrl> + <alt> + <f7>      does that bring up the graphical xorg session?
[13:27] <DannyButterman> Does someone know why a 10.04 64 cannot automount SD cards anymore ? I have to double click the icon for it to open. It used to mount and open a nautilus window automatically.
[13:28] <Nach0z> DannyButterman: try checking if usbmount is installed maybe
[13:28] <Al__> hitsujiTMO, crtl alt f7 did nothing.  I did crtl alt f1 and got a terminal.  It doesn't say tty7
[13:28] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: is this on a fresh install or after an update?
[13:29] <Al__> I update every couple of days.  This 12.04 was installed a few months ago
[13:29] <hitsujiTMO> al__: if you have a black screen then more than likely there's an issue with the gfx card.
[13:30] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: can you install pastebinit.   sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:30] <Zorky> how would i disable all those popups that apear when errors occure in ubuntu?
[13:30] <Al__> Yes, I have a black screen
[13:30] <mjayk> Zorky: what "pop ups" do  you mean
[13:31] <Zorky> mjayk:  those that apear. when a program crashes and such
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> Zorky: i find the only way to get rid of them is to send the error report. they seem to keep coming back if you dont
[13:31] <DannyButterman> Nach0z : it is not, but it doesn't need to, my other 10.04 desktops automount sd cards and usbmount is not installed
[13:31] <Nach0z> I have no idea then.
[13:31] <allisong> Does anyone know why an attemt to install 12.04 on a 13.10 system to dual boot fails at the instaallation of the bootloader
[13:31] <Nach0z> maybe print out a list of installed packages in each and do a diff on the output DannyButterman
[13:31] <Zorky> Al__:  im curious. can you access the TTY's via CTRL+ALT+F1 trough F7?
[13:31] <Al__> I will do sudo apt-get install pastebinit       and cross my fingers it doesn't break!
[13:32] <mjayk> Zorky hitsujiTMO if you are talking about apport error reports you can turn them off by typing service apport stop
[13:32] <mjayk> Zorky: as sudo
[13:32] <Al__> Zorky, nothing happens when I do ctrl+alt F7
[13:32] <Al__> I did ctrl+alt F1 and got a tty
[13:32] <hitsujiTMO> DannyButterman: keep in mind that 10.04 is EOL and no longer supported. whatever script that auto mounts sd cards has probably changed since then
[13:32] <Zorky> ctrl+alt+f7 is the gui part. press ctrl+alt+f1
[13:32] <mjayk> Zorky: to disable them on start up open /etc/default/apport in a text editor again as root and changed enabled=1 to enabled=0
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-disable-apport-error-reporting-in-ubuntu
[13:33] <Zorky> mjayk:  ActionParsnip thanks
[13:33] <mjayk> Zorky: although it is bad practice to disable error reports
[13:33] <Zorky> Al__:  try with sudo service lightdm start
[13:33] <hitsujiTMO> al__: once thats installed can you run: dmesg | pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log                  that will produce 2 urls. can you paste the 2 urls here please
[13:33] <Zorky> mjayk:  yes im aware of that. but they keep poping up constantly.
[13:34] <mjayk> Zorky: could always install a better distro :D
[13:34] <Zorky> mjayk:  yeah i know. ubuntu is just full of bugs it's getting anoying..
[13:34] <Al__> hitsujiTMO, wow, this sounds like it will be fun...  Let me write all this down!
[13:34] <mjayk> Zorky: its what pushed me to opensuse, I feel your pain
[13:35] <Zorky> mjayk:  the fun part is. all these errors are only related to UNITY
[13:35] <Harmageddon> Hi! I was here a few days ago to solve a graphics error during ubuntu installation (worked with the "nomodeset" option). This worked fine for the installation and first start, but now, when I start Ubuntu, a window shows during boot, saying "The system is running in low-graphics mode. Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself"
[13:35] <Harmageddon> When I select "run in low-graphics mode for just one session", there's a new window telling me to wait one minute while the screen restarts. When I press ok in this window, I'm back to the ubuntu boot screen, the red dots are going on and on, but I'm not getting any further.
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: then switch shell, or ditch Gnome and move to XFCE or KDE or LXDE and so on...
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: you don't have to use Unity shell
[13:36] <Nach0z> lxde <3
[13:36] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  my boss tells me to do it.
[13:36] <cfhowlett_> xfc34
[13:36] <cfhowlett_> !
[13:36] <mjayk> kde atm :) /cheer
[13:36] <Nach0z> xfce4 is super lightweight but meh
[13:36] <mjayk> xfce4 is what you make of it Nach0z
[13:37] <Nach0z> I never liked it that much
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: screw him, as long as you do your work, why does s/he care?
[13:37] <hitsujiTMO> meh, openbox and dmenu is all you need :P
[13:37] <ferz> hi, last night I installed ubuntu on a sony vaio with dual boot but since when win8 has been restarted I'm not  able to boot again from ubuntu. I thought that win8 has deleted grub, but I'm not sure.
[13:37] <ferz> I've just tried to reinstall ubuntu today in the same partition of last night but installer fails for disk errors :-/
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> hitsujiTMO: openbox + tint2
[13:37] <Nach0z> but then the first time I installed xfce, it seemed to want to use a windows 95 theme
[13:38] <Nach0z> whiiiich was kinda butt-ugly.
[13:38] <gvo> If you have to run Unity and it isn't working, get your boss to come up with support money.
[13:38] <DannyButterman> hitsujiTMO : I know it's EOL but that happens only on one of my 10.04 machines, the others are fine. Nach0z: you're right, I will diff that
[13:38] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  we are canonical partners. and it's his choice. besides. currently im working on a server for customers
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: why would a server have Unity on it?
[13:39] <mjayk> ferz: have you tried running sudo update-grub
[13:39] <Nach0z> ... server + gui?
[13:39] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  running x2go. it needs a desktop env to work
[13:40] <Nach0z> tell them to use windows server 2012 for an awesome potato gui
[13:40] <ferz> mjayk: no, now I was trying to be sure about disk with sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda7 bs=65536 but it doesn't write anything.
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: gnome is a little heavy, a nice fluxbox session will do....
[13:40] <cfhowlett_> ActionParsnip, exactly!
[13:40] <Al__> hitsujiTMO, okay I installed pastebinit.  Now how do I run that dmesg thing?  Do I just type run dmesg | pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/xorg.0.log?
[13:40] <mjayk> ferz: that will erase sda7 correct ?
[13:40] <ferz> mjayk: which tool can I use to check that partition?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> people do make some weird choices
[13:40] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: yup just type exactly like that
[13:40] <ferz> mjayk: yes.
[13:40] <mjayk> ferz: i use gparted
[13:41] <hitsujiTMO> with out run ofc
[13:41] <ferz> gparted doesn't report any errors in that partition.
[13:41] <hitsujiTMO> al__ without run ofc.
[13:41] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  yes im aware of that. but it needs to be the same interface on all clients. so it dosent get confusing for a ms. olsen on 80 year old
[13:42] <cfhowlett_> Zorky, pretty sure Ms. Olson is going to find unity an order of magnitude more confusing than, say, xfce ...
[13:42] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:42] <Al__> lol about the ofc.  That is not an ofc for me!
[13:43] <hitsujiTMO> al__ :)
[13:43] <mjayk> ferz: and what error is it you get in the install ?
[13:43] <Al__> okay, I will type dmesg | pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/xorg.0.log
[13:43] <Zorky> cfhowlett_:  indeed. but lets put this example up. canonical is making a ubuntu phone. it runs unity. it will be much easier to teach people to use the OS if it has the same interface on both clients
[13:44] <cfhowlett_> Zorky, true ...
[13:44] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: thats a capital X in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:44] <ferz> mjayk: it was a generic disk failure.
[13:45] <mjayk> ferz: I would delete the partition and reformat it using gparted and retry, apart from that I cant help sorry
[13:46] <ferz> mjayk: yes, I've already done (delete partition and reformat it)
[13:46] <Zorky> Libreoffice write control testy thingy wont show the correct spellcheck for the language i just downloaded for libreoffice
[13:46] <ferz> mjayk: but it continue to fail
[13:46] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: are you on a live cd or which?
[13:47] <ferz> hitsujiTMO: yes.
[13:47] <ferz> live cd
[13:47] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: can you install smartmontools     sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[13:48] <ferz> hitsujiTMO: thank you, I'm doing it now.
[13:49] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: actually you might asell install pastebinit too. sudo apt-get install pastebinit             then: sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: just paste the url generated here
[13:50] <Al__> hitsujiTMO well, with the small x, it did give an error.  However, with the cap X, it output two files.
[13:51] <Al__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6410722
[13:51] <Al__> wait, that was the one with the small x
[13:51] <Al__> here are the two correct ones:
[13:52] <ferz> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6410751/
[13:52] <Al__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6410731
[13:52] <Al__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6410732
[13:53] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: good news. not logged any errors on SMART.
[13:53] <ferz> hitsujiTMO: ok, thank you.
[13:53] <Al__> hitsujiTMO, I hate to leave, but class is starting in a couple minutes and I can't continue here.
[13:54] <ferz> hitsujiTMO: where can I find ubuntu installer log?
[13:54] <hitsujiTMO> AI__ i'll have a read thru. come back later when you can
[13:54] <Al__> hitsujiTMO, probably you don't want to give out your e-mail address?
[13:55] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: afraid not
[13:57] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: that i've reader looked for. can you give us the output of: mount | pastebinit
[13:57] <ferz> hitsujiTMO: sure, thank you again.
[13:58] <ferz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6410776/
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> ferz: in /var/log somewhere
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: sudo lsblk | pastebinit
[14:00] <ferz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6410785/
[14:00] <monk44> ghbdtn
[14:00] <monk44> ghbdtn
[14:01] <monk44> привет
[14:01] <FloodBot1> monk44: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:01] <monk44> hallo
[14:01] <monk44> quit
[14:01] <monk44> exit
[14:02] <cfhowlett_> monk44, that would be /exit
[14:02] <cfhowlett_> !ru|monk44,
[14:02] <monk44> a sorry
[14:02] <monk44> thx
[14:02] <faugusztin> monk44: http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html
[14:02] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: that's a lot of partitions :P sudo apt-get install gdisk && sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit
[14:03] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: am i right to assume that this is a uefi boot so?
[14:03] <ferz> yes, uefi
[14:04] <ferz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6410799/
[14:04] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: sudo apt-get install efibootmgr && sudo efibootmgr | pastebinit
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: i se 1 BIG BIG problem here. you have 2 efi system partitions
[14:06] <ferz> I've bought this laptop yesterday and I've only inserted one for extfs, one for swap and another couple of fat32 and void partition (cleared)
[14:07] <Al__> hitsujiTMO, well, thanks.  I can come back on in 30 minutes if you are still here....  I will leave this irc open.
[14:07] <ferz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6410803/
[14:07] <jschoolcraft> Is there a way to debug rsyslog?
[14:08] <ferz> I'll be back in 30' too, and I'll read backlog and continue from there.
[14:08] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: ill be here. will have to check those 2 efi partitions to see whats goen wrong
[14:09] <ferz> hitsujiTMO: ok, thank you very much
[14:09] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: i see another problem. your partition table is out of order.
[14:11] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: that would explain why the trying to write to a partition is failing
[14:15] <steve3> help
[14:16] <cfhowlett_> !details|steve3
[14:17] <FireStorms> Hey I want to try another distribution of Linux. Can I copy over my home directory to another distribution (based on debian) and expect certain it to work. E.g., my .netbeans settings are important to me.
[14:17] <cfhowlett_> FireStorms, nope.  perhaps an ubuntu to ubuntu based distro but even that's a shaky proposition
[14:18] <Pici> FireStorms: It might work, it might not.
[14:18] <FireStorms> Pici, haha I thought so
[14:18] <FireStorms> thanks guys
[14:19] <hitsujiTMO> FireStorms: you should be able to copy over the netbeans config directory on its own
[14:23] <damel> hey all :)
[14:24] <damel> I'm having troubles with installing CUDA on 13.10. Anyone around that can help me out?
[14:26] <damel> looks like the script does not like gcc > 4.6 :(
[14:28] <siv_> hello all . I was wondering what Is the state of the latest xen as far as VGA / PCI passthrough is with the latest software ? I'm using LM 14 and xen 4.1.
[14:29] <hitsujiTMO> damel: you can install gcc 4.4     sudo apt-get install gcc-4.4
[14:29] <gvo> damel: there is a #cuda channel
[14:30] <damel> hiitsujiTMO : I think 4.6 will work
[14:30] <damel> apt-get install gcc-4.6 ?
[14:30] <damel> can I have two compilers at the same time ?
[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> damel yup. you can use update-alternatives then to specify the default
[14:30] <damel> thanks gvo, I will give them a try too :)
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> damel: have a read of this: http://blog.bloemsaat.com/2013/03/17/installing-cuda-on-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[14:32] <damel> hitsujiTMO : perfect thanks :)
[14:33] <SKYRAN> !help
[14:33] <SKYRAN> !patience
[14:34] <ObrienDave> ooooo, a self helper ;)
[14:36] <clemens> hello i've a acer notebook with intel hd300 cpu integrated and a nvida GT 540m discrete. Which driver and programm should i use to switch between the graphic cars?
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> clemens: thats an optimus gfx card so you don't switch between. you use bumblebee for that.
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> clemens: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[14:38] <clemens> hitsujiTMO thx you i'll try that :)
[14:38] <romba_> Hello, anybody here has experiance in dual booting with windows 8 (non uefi) ?
[14:39] <cfhowlett_> !anyone
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | Romance
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> romba_ even ^ :P
[14:39] <padrino> Guys, you know with Tails OS (booting from USB) when you remove the USB it's like Tails wasn't there... doesn't affect your PC at all. Does the same apply to Ubuntu?
[14:39] <romba_> hitsujiTMO: yes have you done it?
[14:40] <hitsujiTMO> romba_: please explain the problem. Noones gonna answer you on the "Has anyone" bit
[14:40] <romba_> hitsujiTMO: i'm in great trouble running xilinx in windows 8
[14:40] <romba_> I want to install ubuntu on my windows 8 (non uefi) laptop
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> !dualboot | romba_ all info here should help
[14:41] <wireguy> is it possible to install a newer package from source over What i installedfrom apt
[14:41] <adamk> padrino: If you are running Ubuntu from a flash drive, it will not affect your PC unless you tell it to.
[14:41] <padrino> adamk what do you mean by 'unless I tell it to'?
[14:41] <romba_> hitsujiTMO: great thanx mate ;)
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> wireguy: a decent ppa is usually the way to go for that
[14:42] <padrino> Will just running it, playing about on it + browsing web on it affect my comp?
[14:42] <adamk> padrino: If you tell it to mount a windows partition and modify files, obviously it's going to do that.
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> adamk: and if you tell it to install grub to /dev/sda then it's also gonna do that :P
[14:43] <wireguy> hitsujiTMO: ihave reason to believe That oneof the dep is older than os avail in repo and causing a problem
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> padrino ^ even
[14:43] <padrino> but just browsing web and stuff won't affect my comp in any way?
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> wireguy: what app is that? are you using a ppa already?
[14:44] <adamk> padrino: Correct.
[14:44] <hitsujiTMO> padrino: no that won't
[14:44] <padrino> Ok thanks guys, I'll boot it up soon
[14:45] <wireguy> hitsujiTMO: weechat from repo
[14:46] <ainx> may i install wechat ? seriously ?
[14:46] <cfhowlett_> ainx, not THAT wechat
[14:46] <ferz> hitsujiTMO: I'm back. How can I put in right order "partition table out of order"?  Can I move them using gparted?  Or there are other ways less risky?
[14:46] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue            and can you pastebin the output of: apt-cache show weechat
[14:46] <ainx> okay
[14:47] <ainx> do you have tutorial for install genymotion ?
[14:47] <gbit> Hello, how can I install an alternative language support for Gmail's auto zip download feature? As seen in http://imagebin.org/276856
[14:47] <helpmee> I installed ubuntu 12.04.3 update everything ok but when I went to system monitor on swap is says not available why
[14:48] <gbit> helpmee: you need to set swapon. You need to check if you already have a swap partition created. If yes go man mkfs.swap and man swapon.
[14:48] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: imrunning saucy (13.10), latest version of weechat(4.2)
[14:49] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO:  my main concern is gnutls
[14:49] <pvl1> which weechat depends on. but there is a newer ver in the repo, hitsujiTMO
[14:50] <helpmee> gbit: alright let me try
[14:50] <helpmee> cat /proc/swaps is empty
[14:50] <damel> hitsujiTMO : That worked perfect..update-alternatives did the trick. Thanks a ton :)
[14:50] <gbit> helpmee: try fdisk -l
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: have a look at http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/      have a search for out-of-order on that page
[14:51] <minas> I dropped my second laptop on the floor and now it doesn't boot into windows (it only has windows installed). I think some data might have been corrupted on the hard drive. I am thinking of booting into ubuntu from a live USB and fixing it from there. Which program should I use for this?
[14:51] <helpmee> no output
[14:51] <ferz> hitsujiTMO: thank you. I'll read it.
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: you will need to disable your running swap partition before doing anything. sudo swapoff -a
[14:51] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: maybeI'll just ask the ppl in #weechat ifthere is another problem
[14:52] <helpmee> there is no swap with blkid too
[14:52] <gbit> helpmee: try free -m and see if swap it bigger than 0
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: normally having a newer version of a dependency isn't a bad thing, as long as its not a difference in major version. just minor version
[14:53] <helpmee> swap 0
[14:53] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: Butwouldn't i have to temove older version
[14:54] <gbit> helpmee: so thats confirm you dont have a swap. If you are a new user, try to reinstall ubuntu with a swap partition on. You can easy found a tutorial on Google to do it.
[14:54] <abradley> Is there a firewall enabled by default in ubuntu 12.04 server?
[14:54] <cfhowlett_> abradley, not by default
[14:55] <helpmee> gbit: I let the installer do the partioning I did not choose "something else" why did this happen
[14:55] <abradley> thanks
[14:57] <gbit> helpmee: try again, is the better way to learn how to do it right. Check "How do I add more swap?" in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[14:57] <swadow> hola
[14:57] <helpmee> ok thanks gbit
[14:57] <swadow> spanish?
[14:57] <Pici> !es | swadow
[14:58] <skraito> yay
[14:58] <skraito> i apply to ubuntu
[14:58] <skraito> for career
[14:58] <skraito> any hr
[14:58] <skraito> :p hire me
[14:58] <swadow> hola
[14:58] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: well it depends on how gnutls is linked by the compiler. links libgnutls ... from the looks of it. its quite verbose on the version that it links so you should be able to have the 2 version of the lib side by side
[14:59] <smeagolll> when start vm windows (XEN)
[14:59] <smeagolll> Xenctrl.Error [ memory 6796760 KiB free; to be scrubbed 0 KiB; total 7893 MiB]: 1: Operation not permitted
[15:00] <smeagolll> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/xen-start-vm-windows-%3D-problem-help-please-4175484442/
[15:01] <minas> I dropped my second laptop on the floor and now it doesn't boot into windows (it only has windows installed). I think some data might have been corrupted on the hard drive. I am thinking of booting into ubuntu from a live USB and fixing it from there. Which program should I use for this?
[15:02] <Justice> hey all
[15:02] <Justice> im back
[15:02] <Justice> http://i40.tinypic.com/aadvg7.png <--- what should i pick?? I am on vmware Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ( the vmware is running on a windows server 2012)
[15:03] <adamk> minas: Dropping the laptop on the floor isn't going to rearrange the data on the drive.  It's going to physically damage the drive.
[15:03] <ObrienDave> minas, probably physical damage to the drive. which version of Windows?
[15:03] <minas> ObrienDave, it's windows 7
[15:03] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: ill tryIt out, see What happens
[15:04] <ObrienDave> minas, have you tried Safe Mode? F8 on boot
[15:04] <hitsujiTMO> smeagolll: it would help if you posted the full error log. please note that there is a ##xen channel too
[15:04] <ferz> hitsujiTMO: both sfdisk and fixparts complain that it's a GPT disk and to use gpart instead.
[15:04] <abradley> I'm running a webserver on ubu 12.04 server and I'm running into an error when testing imap configuration: http://i.imgur.com/zxullwr.png
[15:05] <abradley> I understand that no firewall is enabled by default in ubu 12.04 server. Any suggestions why it is timing out? I can ping imap.gmail.com from the machine, avg 30ms
[15:05] <minas> ObrienDave, I have tried it but nothing happens. It tries to load files ("windows is loading files") and then freezes
[15:05] <John_W> hi
[15:05] <ferz> hitsujiTMO: is there any guide about gparted for mistakes and complex scenario?
[15:05] <minas> ObrienDave, actually nothing happens when F8 is pressed on boot. it just boots to what i described above
[15:06] <phong_> lol man
[15:06] <ObrienDave> minas, the drive is damaged.
[15:07] <skraito> is there any ubuntu channel developer
[15:07] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: ahh... gparts doesn't have an auto fixer for it it you need to use the transpose option to swap the partitions manually. its in the advanced options
[15:07] <ferz> hitsujiTMO: ok. I'll  try then.
[15:07] <minas> ObrienDave, is there something that can be done? Can I retrieve some of the files by booting from a live usb? (assuming they are not damaged)
[15:08] <Justice> anyone?
[15:09] <ObrienDave> minas, you can try a live USB or DVD. Or move the drive to another computer and see if you can access the files. my best guess is probably not. sorry
[15:09] <Karlito> hey guys got a question to the Bs xubuntu. is there any shortcut list ? or can anyone tell me how i can a application from window 1 to 2 ?
[15:09] <minas> ObrienDave, ok, thanks for your help
[15:09] <Karlito> move*
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> Justice: let me see (tinypic is slow)
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: use p to rint the partitrion table. what you want is so that the end of one partition, is 1 sector before the start of the next partition. the first few should be ordered correctly
[15:09] <ferz> hitsujiTMO: it seems that Vaio Care use the last partition to store its system and recovery space but I don't know which other partition is used for win and for sys hibernation.
[15:09] <Nox_404> hi, i got a problem on a 12.4.3 server install, how can i fix this : apt setup udeb succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured
[15:10] <Justice> ye i know, but its the only one i usre haha
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Justice: I can't see an image...
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Justice: ahh ok now
[15:10] <Justice> :p
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Justice: do you want users to be able to email each other only or are you wanting a web facing email server?
[15:11] <Justice> well
[15:11] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: just use (x) to enable expert mode (p) to list the current order. (t) to swap which 2 you want to swap. and (w) to write what you to the gpt table. the (q) to quit
[15:11] <Justice> i need my server to send emails, since i wanna use Nickserv's Email function for registration
[15:11] <Justice> on irc servers
[15:12] <hitsujiTMO> ferz: you don't need to know what they are. just what order they are supposed to be in
[15:12] <Justice> so any idea what i should pick/
[15:12] <Justice> xD
[15:13] <Nox_404> hi, i got a problem on a 12.4.3 server install, how can i fix this : apt setup udeb succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured (is there a better place for my question ?)
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> Justice: do you want to have your own email domain name?
[15:13] <Justice> how do you mean exactly?
[15:13] <Justice> like admin@domain.com
[15:13] <Justice> ?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> Justice: well, you can make your own @ address
[15:14] <Justice> yea i do
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> Justice: like   username@justicemail.com
[15:14] <Justice> ive got Noreply@darkisle-enterprise.nl
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> Justice: ok, did you buy your domain name?
[15:14] <Justice> yea
[15:14] <ObrienDave> ferz, I have a Vaio. 1st partition is System Recovery, 2nd is Windows bootloader (I think), 3rd is normal Windows. Hibernate file is there
[15:14] <Justice> or atleast
[15:14] <Justice> i bought the 2012 server
[15:14] <Pici> !enter
[15:14] <Justice> and included Plesk
[15:14] <Justice> and unlimited email suppor
[15:15] <Justice> support
[15:15] <Justice> etc
[15:15] <FloodBot1> Justice: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:15] <Justice> sorry :P bot
[15:15] <Rory> Justice: You need to make sure you have set up an MX record for your domain
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Justice: then you want internet site and it will ask which domain you have bought
[15:15] <Rory> Justice: (If you want mail to be sent TO you)
[15:15] <Justice> nah, i need the server to send mail to users
[15:15] <Justice> or is that the same?
[15:15] <Justice> xD
[15:16] <ferz> ObrienDave: you have a uefi vaio?
[15:16] <Rory> No, when you install your MTA (postfix or whatever) just select Internet Site and put in darkisle-enterprise.nl or whatever
[15:16] <Justice> ok :)
[15:16] <ObrienDave> ferz, no, normal BIOS
[15:16] <ferz> ObrienDave: ok
[15:16] <slops17> morning
[15:17] <slops17> can some one tell me how to disable igmp please
[15:17] <ferz> ObrienDave: it seems quite different then.
[15:17] <hadifarn_> I get "Error generating image" for http://wishwant.co.uk/sites/default/files/styles/gift_product/public/ipadmini-burgundy-front.jpg on my Ubuntu server. any idea why?
[15:17] <ObrienDave> ferz, probably.
[15:17] <Justice> ok it has set up
[15:17] <Justice> so it should work now?
[15:17] <Justice> :)
[15:18] <ferz> ObrienDave: in gparted I assume that first partition is on the left and last is on the right.
[15:18] <ObrienDave> yes
[15:18] <Rory> hadifarn_: Where do you see that error? In Apache error logs?
[15:18] <hadifarn_> no in browser Rory
[15:18] <skraito> hi ubuntu user
[15:18] <skraito> is default is gnome
[15:18] <hadifarn_> no error on apache
[15:18] <skraito> or kde
 I managed to sort the whole moving partition thing out
[15:18] <skraito> is there any ubuntu developer channel
[15:18] <Rory> hadifarn_: Can you browse to the file on the server, does it exist?
[15:19] <hadifarn_> yes Rory
[15:19] <Pici> skraito: the default DE is Unity, which is based on gnome
[15:19] <hitsujiTMO> hadifarn_: that would be Dependant on the cms and if you've installled the necessary dependencies
[15:19] <hadifarn_> it doesnt give me 404 btw
[15:19] <hadifarn_> hitsujiTMO: I have this issue with just a few pictures
[15:19] <rypervenche> hadifarn_: I get this: PDOException: SQLSTATE[HY000]: General error: 2006 MySQL server has gone away: SELECT expire, value FROM {semaphore} WHERE name = :name; Array ( [:name] => variable_init ) in lock_may_be_available() (line 167 of /srv/www/wishwant.co.uk/public_html/includes/lock.inc).
[15:19] <Nox_404> hi, i got a problem on a 12.4.3 server install, how can i fix this : apt setup udeb succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured (is there a better place for my question ?)
[15:19] <Justice> nice
[15:19] <Justice> it works
[15:19] <Justice> thanks very much
[15:19] <Justice> :D
[15:19] <FloodBot1> Justice: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <Danato> I used a software called easeus on windows to move C, and it did it flawlessly
[15:20] <hadifarn_> rypervenche: I just gave you a pic url, why SQL error?
[15:20] <hadifarn_> got even weirder
[15:20] <rypervenche> hadifarn_: That's what I got from the link, it gave that error in Drupal.
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> hadifarn_: seems you've an issue with either your setup or with mysql. the logs should give you a better idea.
[15:22] <hadifarn_> hitsujiTMO rypervenche it's an image file url. it physically exist in that location. it has nothing todo with mysql. the site works just fine if you check
[15:22] <John525> hello i would like some recommendations of a few non gnome/kde/xfce desktop enviornments that look good ?
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> hadifarn_: that url is served by drupal. not by apache. hence the error
[15:23] <rypervenche> hadifarn_: Then it could be that your .htaccess file is not set up correctly.
[15:23] <Rory> John525: LXDE which comes with Lubuntu is lightweight and I think it looks great if you like the traditional side of things
[15:23] <hadifarn_> rypervenche: hmm, the main one in root directory, right?
[15:23] <ObrienDave> ferz, they are also listed by a number. SDA is first drive. SDA1 is 1st partition 1st drive, SDA2 2nd partition 1st drive and so forth
[15:23] <Rory> John525: You can install it with "sudo apt-get install lxde" or for the full set of lubuntu packages "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop"
[15:23] <Danato> My sounds are not working at all, where should I start looking? And yes ive tried the mixer
[15:23] <rypervenche> hadifarn_: You need to make sure that files that exist in the document are served and not passed through your index.php file.
[15:24] <John525> ok cool
[15:24] <rypervenche> hadifarn_: I would assume so, however I don't know how you have your site set up.
[15:24] <Rory> Danato: Can you try installing and running "pavucontrol"
[15:25] <hitsujiTMO> hadifarn_: whats the output of ls -l /srv/www/wishwant.co.uk/public_html/sites/default/files/styles/gift_product/public/ipadmini-burgundy-front.jpg
[15:25] <Danato> Rory: ok
[15:25] <John525> ty
[15:25] <hadifarn_> hitsujiTMO: I can't ssh to my server. just a sec
[15:28] <slops17> can some one tell me how to disable igmp please
[15:29] <Danato> Rory: the program ddnt work
[15:30] <bartolo> hi, is it possible to run a script after the execution of unattended-upgrades?
[15:30] <Danato> Rory: Connection to PulseAudio failed
[15:32] <OerHeks> bartolo, Try to create a bash script and put it in /etc/kernel/postinst.d/ but that would run for any update
[15:33] <hadifarn_> hitsujiTMO: looks like my cms fails to generate the image
[15:34] <bartolo> OerHeks: uhm ok thanks it's not a problem, the script ends in ms if it doesn't have to do anything
[15:37] <Danato> i already tried this guide to fix my sounds but it ddnt work http://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/
[15:40] <ripthejacker> The notification bar in my Ubuntu 13.10 freezer very often.
[15:40] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: are you getting any output from: speaker-test -c 2
[15:40] <ripthejacker> Is this happening for anyone else?
[15:40] <remoteCTRL> hi guys...
[15:41] <remoteCTRL> dies anybody know, whether gparted can hanlde lvm already...?
[15:41] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: jst a second im testing this and it may interfere with the command you gave me http://askubuntu.com/questions/14191/ubuntu-sound-not-working
[15:46] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ok do you want me to pastebin it?
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: is there sound coming out?
[15:47] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: no
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: or is it giving some error?
[15:47] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: its not showing errors, jst a bunch of what seems like tests that keep going on
[15:47] <bartolo> OerHeks: i need to use aptitude in the script and I can't if I put it there
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: the issue is with alsa so
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: ctrl + c to cancel it
[15:48] <bartolo> probably the best solution is to use anacron
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you run alsamixer and makes sure nothing important is musted (such as master)
[15:48] <bartolo> so i could run it periodically
[15:49] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: I already reinstalled alsa
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: that still might not fix a broken config. Could also be the driver itself
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: did the sound work before?
[15:50] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: yeah it was working before, and yesterday it stopped working, and after some updates it worked again, and stopped working today
[15:50] <BluesKaj> Danato. intel hda driver ?
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: pastebin: lspci -k
[15:51] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: oh and what did you mean by musted?
[15:52] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: Muted sorry
[15:52] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ah ok, its not muted
[15:52] <BluesKaj> Danato. alsamixer will show which chip is in use in the upper left
[15:53] <strit> I have an odd problem. Sometimes, when I start a youtube video, my sound device switches from speakers to headphones (i'm on a laptop) and the Speakers device isn't there anymore. Any idea what can cause this?
[15:53] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: i ddnt see anything there
[15:53] <strit> Ubuntu 13.10 (forgot)
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you pastebin the output of: lspci -k
[15:54] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: on it
[15:55] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/uJW5sGdH
[15:55] <aarobc_wrk> You know what's really weird? The open source drivers for my raedon hd 6870 work better than the fglrx ones
[15:56] <Danato> BluesKaj: i ddnt see anything on the upper left
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> aarobc_wrk: not weird, different drivers work differently
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you pastebin alsamixer
[15:57] <Danato> BluesKaj: i jst ran it on the konsole, theres a graph
[15:57] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: my speaker sounds are all the way down
[15:58] <halfbeing> can anyone recommend a screencasting application? recordmydesktop and kazam are both completely unusable.
[15:58] <strit> halfbeing, I use simplescreenrecorder for recording. Works like a charm. :)
[15:58] <popey> halfbeing: odd, kazam works here, maybe tell the developers in #kazam
[15:58] <g0tcha> hey guys, im trying to install ffmpeg on ubuntu server and libvpx, i installed 'yasm' but when i try to ./configure libvpx, it complains about Yasm not available
[15:58] <g0tcha> anyone can help me out with this?
[15:58] <halfbeing> thanks strit
[15:59] <Nox_404> hi, I got a problem on a 12.4.3 server install, how can i fix this : apt-setup-udeb succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured
[15:59] <strit> halfbeing, I used Kazam before, but it broke on my machine when I upgraded to 13.10.
[15:59] <Rory> g0tcha: You can install ffmpeg without compiling, using the Ubuntu repositories and apt-get
[15:59] <John525> i have another question, how do i install cairo dock on ubuntu 12.10
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha: would you need yasm-dev package
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> !info cairo-dock
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> John525: it's in the universe repo
[15:59] <halfbeing> strit, is the problem that it doesn't save most of your recordings?
[16:00] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ill take a screenshot
[16:00] <John525> so install using apt-get?
[16:00] <g0tcha> Rory, would ffmpeg work as it should be if i install it using the repositories? cuz i need it for a local website im using
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> John525: yes
[16:00] <g0tcha> ActionParsnip, i dont see yasm-dev in the repo
[16:00] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: its a text interface. you can just copy + paste the text
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> John525: or software centre if you desire
[16:00] <strit> halfbeing, nope, on my machine it doesn't even record. it crashes a few seconds after I start it, and it finished switching between yellow and red dots in the indicator. :)
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> !find yasm
[16:01] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: it looks really weird when i paste it
[16:01] <halfbeing> popey, i'll do that when i get a chance!
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha: not sure then, is there not a binary package for what you need?
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: ahh ok
[16:01] <BluesKaj> Danato. yes , but you have the intel hda sound diver  , it's probly not loaded after you update/upgrade , a commoin bug with those drivers , in the terminal run , sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel , the command prompt will return immediately if the driver loads properly , then you'll have to reboot
[16:01] <g0tcha> ActionParsnip, well, im following this https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide
[16:02] <hitsujiTMO> BluesKaj: if it shows up under lspci -k then it's loaded
[16:02] <BluesKaj> hitsujiTMO. was that the command he used for the above post ?
[16:03] <hitsujiTMO> BluesKaj: lspci -k
[16:03] <halfbeing> strit :)
[16:03] <BluesKaj> well ,he should run the modprobe command anyway , it might work
[16:04] <BluesKaj> hitsujiTMO. lspci -k may list the available driver but that doesn't mean it 's loading
[16:05] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: http://oi44.tinypic.com/21opo28.jpg
[16:06] <BluesKaj> Danato. your speaker output is muted
[16:06] <PPH> what irc client should I use on ubuntu? I need to get notifications when I get a private message or when someone say my name.
[16:06] <hitsujiTMO> BluesKaj: sorry you're right. man lspci says -l shows drivers loaded for device and capable of being loaded for a device
 thats what I said
[16:06] <gordonjcp> PPH: I like irssi
[16:07] <grep0r> PPH, there are many you can try xchat
[16:07] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  the command seemed to work, at least it ddnt give me any error
[16:07] <PPH> gordonjcp: well that's what Im using actually but I don't have any notifications
[16:07] <BluesKaj> Danato. use the M key to unmute it then the up arrow key to increase the volume
[16:07] <PPH> grep0r: well I'll try it
[16:07] <PPH> grep0r: thx
[16:07] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: speaker is muted. move over it and hit (m) to unmute it. move arrows up and down to change the level
[16:08] <strit> PPH, I use Xchat. :)
[16:08] <gordonjcp> PPH: should see someone highlight, with the channel number turning purple
[16:09] <renebarbosa> #buffer 6
 where do I press M?
[16:10] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: when speaker is highlighted in red
[16:10] <grep0r> PPH, xchat supports the feature you want, just from what i remember (not sure if still) xchat-gnome dont have some xchat's official features
[16:10] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: then you's see the MM changing to 00
[16:10] <PPH> grep0r: Ok thanks
 ah i ddnt know i could navigate on that
[16:11] <jmgk> hello
[16:11] <jmgk> :)
[16:11] <BluesKaj> Danato. use the < and> arrow keys to navigate in alsamixer to the speaker volume control , then press M , the increase the volume to 90% or so witht up arrow key
[16:11] <Danato> That Woked!
[16:11] <Danato> my spelling ddnt :P
[16:11] <Danato> That worked!
[16:12] <Danato> thanks guys, my computer speaks again
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: you really should not put your laptop in a wok. It's not to be cooked
[16:13] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: i like trying new things :P
[16:13] <Danato> i jst dont know how the heck did i mute my speakers
[16:13] <q_> you touch my talala my dindindon, Shutlleworth!
[16:13] <benjamin_> ubuntu español???
[16:14] <BluesKaj> !es | benjamin_
[16:14] <benjamin_> tks
[16:14] <Danato> btw whats S/PDIF?
[16:16] <DrFoo> does anyone have the link for the article on hibernation on a Dell Latitude XT2?
[16:16] <FourFire> Hello, is it possible to install an image of a running operating system onto another drive mounted in that system?
[16:16] <Danato> let me test this ubottu
[16:17] <Danato> !S/PDIF
[16:17] <Danato> he doesnt know :P
[16:17] <FourFire> I have 12.04 LTS and I don't want to go through the hassle of finding all the odd programs which I've collected over time
[16:18] <FourFire> However I need to switch hard drives since this one is old and has over 50 Bad sectors
[16:18] <BluesKaj> sony philips digital interface , Danato it feeds a digital to analog converter on an audio ssytem /device /receiver/amplifier
[16:19] <pacy_> FourFire: Sorry i need to go but look the command "dd" up
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> FourFire: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | awk {'print $2'} > ~/packagesinstalled.txt
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> FourFire: will make a copy ofthe instaled packages
 ah ok thanks, I wont be needing that for now
[16:19] <BluesKaj> Danato. or a atv with digital audio inputs
[16:20] <BluesKaj> a tv
[16:25] <Keith_Mckay> hello
[16:25] <makillo> hi
[16:26] <Keith_Mckay> I've been reading alot about people having problems installing any Nvidia drivers, is there a bug that prevents compiz effects from working? I
[16:27] <Keith_Mckay> I am using ubuntu 13.10 with unity and mate installed.
[16:27] <OmnIcK> is there some Manuel about how to configure ipv6 ubuntu 12.04/12.10?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Keith_Mckay: if you have an Optimus GPU (switching) then it can be a headache
[16:28] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: this is weird, its mute again
[16:29] <OerHeks> Keith_Mckay, or an old one like nvidia 9200
[16:29] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: and the speakers are not muted this time
[16:29] <Keith_Mckay> I haven't. Nvidia 8800 ultra.
[16:29] <strit> Keith_Mckay, isn't that older than the 9200? :P
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Keith_Mckay: nvidia-current    will drive it
[16:30] <OerHeks> OmnIcK, this is a good start > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6
[16:30] <Keith_Mckay> yep, ive had no issues with the 64bit build, but I've had to drop down to 32bit because of wine issues
 It went mute again, and the speakers are not muted
[16:31] <BluesKaj> Danato. is volume turned up ?
[16:31] <Keith_Mckay> ok. lets try nvidia current again :D
[16:31] <FourFire> ActionParsnip: thanks, what do I do now?
[16:31] <OmnIcK> OerHeks: thanks! :-)
 all the way up
[16:31] <unicornjedi> hello, does anyone know how to create a computer cluster?
[16:32] <FourFire> I have an external hard drive with a single partition of ntfs which I want to install on
[16:32] <FourFire> should I do anything with it first?
[16:32] <jmgk> hey FourFire
 all I did was doing an update and dist-upgrade
[16:32] <genii> FourFire: Make it not ntfs ;)
[16:33] <BluesKaj> Danato. ok dist-upgrade will unload the driver for some reason , run , sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel , again , then reboot '
[16:34] <SuperLag> I have a Lenovo desktop, with both an SSD and HDD in it. / is on the SSD and /home, /opt, and /usr/local are on the HDD. Can I install a second SSD and use it for write caching for the HDD to get faster performance when reading/writing to/from the HDD?
 ok brb
[16:34] <OerHeks> unicornjedi, ubuntu server with hyperscale & juju tools > http://www.ubuntu.com/server/hyperscale
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> FourFire: backup the data you need (/etc as well as userdata and so on), then reinstall and you can use the textfile to instate what you need.
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> FourFire: if you are using the same release, you can even backup the .list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:38] <unicornjedi> OerHeks, thanks what I meant was the hardware requiremtns
[16:39] <OerHeks> unicornjedi, low
[16:39] <cristian_c> Hi
[16:39] <cristian_c> After I've launched it, I've got this message: 'No diagram loaded' 'Having saved the output of bustle-dbus-monitor' to a file , open that file to see a sequence diagram of D-Bus activity.'
[16:39] <wjtaylor> I think I just fragged my system... I did a test: sudo pm-hibernate and it hibernated fine, but now it won't boot. libcrypt can't resume /dev/dm-0, which I think is LVM. I can't do anything at this prompt. I tried recovery mode and it's the same thing.
[16:39] <Keith_Mckay> That didnt work, rebooted and everything, I have the static desktop and transparent terminal window, something placed behide but no true effects, I see the desktop wallpaper and not the window behide.
[16:39] <cristian_c> How I solve this?
[16:40] <unicornjedi> OerHeks, ??? what do you mean low?
[16:40] <Danato> BluesKaj: the sound is back
[16:40] <cristian_c> I've also installed graphviz
[16:40] <cristian_c> But nothing has changed :(
[16:40] <akr> hiho
[16:40] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[16:40] <OerHeks> unicornjedi, any number of small desktops can be a cluster, as long as they are connected
[16:40] <Danato> BluesKaj: why is dist-upgrade doing that now? i use to run it frequently and it never interfered with my sounds
[16:41] <Danato> *used
[16:41] <shaoyongyang> hello
[16:44] <shaoyongyang> ??
[16:44] <gvo> shaoyongyang: Do you have a question?
[16:45] <Keith_Mckay> ActionParsnip, https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0me9terv94o14z/Screenshot.png what ever I do I cant get the high desktop effects, I had this issue many years ago with ubuntu 6.10 but least you could pick from right clicking the desktop and choosing desktop node.
[16:46] <Keith_Mckay> ActionParsnip, There has been to much taken from 12.10+ to allow you to customize it.
[16:47] <unicornjedi> OerHeks, But how do I connect them? Do I need a D-link? Do I need a pci ethernet card?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> Danato. it's abug in ubuntu with the intel hda driver loading at startup after upgrades , probly low on the priority list witht the devs , since the fix is so simple
[16:48] <gvo> unicornjedi: a switch and ethernet connections on each computer
[16:49] <thecha> after a short while on my ubuntu12.04 the dsl-connection vanishes
[16:49] <thecha> not disconnect but vanisheing completly
[16:49] <OerHeks> unicornjedi, ofcourse you need to connect them, ethernet preferrably
[16:49] <thecha> what to do?
[16:50] <shaoyongyang> hello world
[16:51] <unicornjedi> gro, I think I have a switch. I have a D-Link ethernet switch. It has like 20 ethernet ports.
[16:52] <OerHeks> unicornjedi, that will do.
[16:53] <Tianmetal> Hello, I just installed ubuntu 13.10 on a new partition and it suddenly replaces my windows partition, I'm currenty running ubuntu on USB to save my harddisk, how can I restore my windows partition?
[16:53] <unicornjedi> gvo, so I guess I need another ethernet port on my master to connect to the internet...
[16:53] <buu> Tianmetal: Did you replace the boot loader or the actual partition?
[16:53] <buu> Tianmetal: Does ubuntu see your windows drive?
[16:53] <OerHeks> unicornjedi, yes, unless you want to keep it local.
[16:53] <Tianmetal> no
[16:54] <gvo> unicornjedi: No, not necessarily.  You can cluster and access the internet on the same network.
[16:54] <OerHeks> unicornjedi, see this example for a MPI cluster > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MpichCluster
[16:54] <Tianmetal> I no longer see my windows drive
[16:54] <buu> Tianmetal: Where are you looking?
[16:54] <unicornjedi> OerHeks, thank youu
[16:55] <Tianmetal> on the devices, it shows me only the ubuntu
[16:56] <Tianmetal> my computer can no longer boot windows, it shows me no operating system installed
[16:57] <unicornjedi> OerHeks, wow... this is tough. Is a beowulf cluster any simpler?
[16:57] <OerHeks> unicornjedi, i have no experience with juju & cluster, it is worth to take a look at that
[16:58] <buu> Tianmetal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader
[16:58] <shaoyongyang> cn
[16:59] <darckness_> hola
[16:59] <shaoyongyang> sleep,,sleep
[17:00] <unicornjedi> OerHeks, thanks for your help im gonna fool with this and try to get it set up
[17:00] <OerHeks> unicornjedi, have fun
[17:04] <bluman> Is landscape free if you use your own server?
[17:04] <bluman> if not, how much after 30 days
[17:04] <Kartagis> Onixs: hi. are you there?
[17:05] <sivel__> hello, is it possible to limit incoming ssh connections to a domain ?, as in instead of an ip to allow, only allow from me.nodmain.com ?
[17:06] <dryicebomb> sivel__: yes, you can put the domain as the source in your iptables rule
[17:06] <sivel__> like a reverse domain lookup ?
[17:07] <tirengarfio> I have installed Grive but the file I have put inside is not being uploaded to Google Drive
[17:07] <sivel__> ok. great . so it will always map me connecting from me.domain.com, even if my ip changes ? like a ddns host ?
[17:08] <dryicebomb> sivel__: yes, it will resolve the domain and then allow you
[17:08] <sivel__> thank you
[17:08] <Laurenceb> how can i change my password to a printer on a windows network?
[17:08] <Laurenceb> i configured it ok when i set up the printer
[17:09] <Laurenceb> but now my passowrd has changed, and i cannot connect
[17:09] <Laurenceb> i need to change the password that is used for connection attempts to the print server, but how can i do this?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: its part of the install process
[17:09] <dryicebomb> Laurenceb: you might have to look at how to factory reset the printer on the manufacturers website, and then re-set it up.
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: http://www.techotopia.com/images/5/59/Ubuntu_10.10_new_windows_printer.jpg.
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: see where it says "set credentials" set them there
[17:10] <Laurenceb> ok
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: does yours have that?
[17:11] <dryicebomb> tirengarfio: are you running a GUI? if so, take a look at grive-tools http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-google-drive-client-grive-and-grive-tools
[17:12] <tirengarfio> dryicebomb,  I followed that
[17:15] <Laurenceb> ok i can print now
[17:15] <Laurenceb> but it asks for the password each time
[17:15] <Laurenceb> how do i force it to remeber?
[17:16] <esde> Got an email from vps provider saying vps was attempting to send smtp mail at ~100+ times per ten minutes. However I'm not aware of any services that would be sending /that much/ mail in /that little/ timeframe. I've checked my mail log and the most recent entry is Oct 2. How can i find out what is trying to send smtp mail?
[17:17] <dontknow> hi
[17:19] <dryicebomb> tirengarfio: do you get any errors when you try to sync via the command line?
[17:20] <dontknow> wow i think i am not banned anymore! thanks ub*ntu
[17:21] <esde> TL;DR - Weird smtp traffic coming out of ubuntu. How can I track down where it's coming from?
[17:21] <Laurenceb> arg wtf
[17:21] <Laurenceb> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1599298
[17:21] <Laurenceb> that is failinh
[17:21] <Laurenceb> why?
[17:22] <PPH> Any1 can type my name i'd like to see if my notifications work.
[17:22] <esde> PPh
[17:23] <PPH> esde: thx
[17:23] <Laurenceb> shall i pastebin my smb.conf?
[17:23] <Laurenceb> i dont know what is wrong
[17:24] <Laurenceb> is anyone here?
[17:25] <esde> Laurenceb, it is kind of dead for ~1800 users
[17:25] <BluesKaj> 90% of them are lurkers
[17:25] <joelra> lurking
[17:25] <Al__> hitsujiTMO, I finally am able to continue.
[17:26] <esde> Laurenceb, it is kind of dead for ~179* users
[17:26] <Al__> esde, don't worry....
[17:26] <esde> Al__, about?
[17:27] <Al__> You said "it is kind of dead"
[17:27] <Al__> I guess it was a statement... not worried....\
[17:27] <dustinspringman> So... I updated to the new kernel.. broke my video drivers badly.. trying to recover.. using 12.10 now in an effort to get back in business.. The only issue I am having now is: laptop screen is good with proper  resolution, 26" vizio connected to mini-display port (which uses the intel GPU) is detected in displays but will not show video.. please don't say bumblebee... this worked before i upgrade to the 3.8 kernel... would
[17:28] <Al__> Well, it looks like hitsujiTMO is not available now...
[17:29] <Al__> Would anyone like to take over with trying to tell me how to start the ubuntu desktop from a command line?
[17:29] <dustinspringman> Al__:  startx maybe?
[17:29] <BluesKaj> Al__. unity ?
[17:30] <Al__> dustinspringman, do you mean xstart?
[17:30] <dustinspringman> Al__:  nope, startx
[17:30] <BluesKaj> startx  is the the command
[17:30] <dustinspringman> thats what starts the xserver on my machine..
[17:30] <dustinspringman> xserver aka desktop
[17:30]  * zykotick9 doubts startx will do much...
[17:30] <Al__> oh, thanks...
[17:30] <BluesKaj> are you at a TTY Al__ ?
[17:31] <duxbarak> I'm trying to clone an SVN repository into a new git repository and I get "perl: /build/buildd/subversion-1.7.9/subversion/libsvn_subr/dirent_uri.c:321: canonicalize: Assertion `*src != '/'' failed.
[17:31] <duxbarak> error: git-svn died of signal 6" Any help?
[17:31] <synronite> does anyone here know about Synkron?
[17:32] <partyallnight> https://www.facebook.com/events/569654679757110/581579548564623/?notif_t=like
[17:32] <synronite> anyone here?
[17:33] <Al__> Okay, I did startx and it said it is already active for display0.  How can I quit it for display0 so I can restart it with xstart?
[17:33] <OerHeks> Al__, hit ctrl alt F7
[17:33] <Nach0z> Al__: sudo kill -9 $(pidof x)    IIRC
[17:33] <Al__> bluesKay, I was at the terminal
[17:34] <Al__> I will try...
[17:34] <zykotick9> OerHeks: when in a console, it's just alt+FX (ctrl+alt+FX works as well, but...)
[17:35] <OerHeks> zykotick9, true, i'll remember that
[17:35] <synronite> Has anyone here used a sync utility called Synkron?
[17:36] <Al__> NachOz, so I type in sudo kill -9   ??????
[17:36]  * zykotick9 notes alt+arrow (left or right) is handy in consoles
[17:36] <szx> anybody knows why there's no package "libboost-asio-dev" or something like that for installing Bost.Asio? there's libboost-all-dev but it doesn't include boost-asio lol, so I'm just wondering
[17:36] <Danato> should I be worried for getting this error?
[17:36] <Danato> configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found!
[17:37] <Danato> Please check whether you installed KDE correctly.
[17:37] <synronite> Anybody? Somebody? I need help please.
[17:37] <Al__> NachOz,, I did that but startx still says already running
[17:38] <FourFire> ok ActionParsnip I've got the drive, I performed that command you gave me, what exact commands do I need to input int order to install my entire version onto the external hard drive?
[17:38] <Nach0z> Al__: the $(pidof X) is actually a bash command >__>
[17:38] <Nach0z> or bash variable or whatever you wanna call it
[17:38] <FourFire> (I'll then put all the backup data inside the new Linux partition
[17:38] <FourFire> )
[17:38] <Nach0z> try killing the DM through /etc/init.d/ or something maybe
[17:39] <Al__> NachOz, ahhh, thanks but I am shaky with bash commands....
[17:39] <Nach0z> Al__: what window manager are you using? unity?
[17:40] <Kartagis> hi
[17:40] <zykotick9> Nach0z: s/window manager/desktop environment/ ;)
[17:40] <Al__> NachOz, Xfe.   Is that such a window manager?
[17:40] <Danato> where do i find this kde-config?
[17:41] <Kartagis> whenever I receive a notification from skype. my soundcard starts buzzing and never stops unless I logout/back in. what to do?
[17:42] <Al__> Oh, I should spend more time playing with Ubuntu!  I feel too old though.  I am from the Amiga OS days.
[17:43] <FourFire> So I've made that file now (I think) what do I do further in order to install my current OS onto this external hard drive?
[17:44] <FourFire> (I reformatted the single partition into ext4)
[17:44] <Al__> NachOz, how do I send messages to you?  I am assuming that since your message is in the color red, that is a message to me?
[17:45] <synronite> Does anyone know about a synchronization utility called Synkron?
[17:45] <zykotick9> Al__: you just did ;)  just use the nickname on the line, and that person will be highlighted (if there irc client is setup for that)
[17:45] <FourFire> Al__ you can /query <name> someone
[17:45] <Nach0z> Al__: yeah, it's a highlight
[17:45] <dgarstang3> Any rsyslog experts here? I'm trying to log locally and to a remote server. The remote server bit is working, but nothing is getting logged locally.
[17:46] <Al__> zykotick9, NachOz and FourFire, thanks
[17:46] <Al__> So I just have to mention type the user's ID anywhere in the message and it highlights?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> Al__. yup
[17:47] <FourFire> yes Al__
[17:47] <OerHeks> !tab
[17:47] <Al__> cool
[17:48] <Al__> FourFire: wow
[17:48] <FourFire> ActionParsnip: are you still willing to help me with this installation?
[17:48] <cwcishere> Hello
[17:48] <Al__> thanks ubottu
[17:48] <cwcishere> how is everyone?
[17:48] <Al__> good cwcishere
[17:48] <FourFire> can I just dump my backup files on the drive before I am about to install 12.04 on it, or will something go wrong then?
[17:49] <cwcishere> I need help on this: http://v.cdn.vine.co/r/avatars/1305DCD7E11004095271015165952_pic-r-138236916595748d70dd241.jpg_MC4DkSS1akDMfCULz3TbMHCNmcAag42jiJrFn5uQcEbRuaxg8pNOLXEenfx8C2cZ.jpg?versionId=p_xyM2hoDhf.eYZSkfWqvkPh7GUgnDYK
[17:50] <OerHeks> FourFire, you can install to your ext hdd, but the installer will do the partitioning ( again )
[17:50] <Al__> so this is highlighted for you BluesKaj ?
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> Hey Al__
[17:50] <Al__> hey hitsujiTMO
[17:50] <dgarstang3> Any rsyslog experts here? I'm trying to log locally and to a remote server. The remote server bit is working, but nothing is getting logged locally.
[17:51] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: I think that I will give up trying to figure out how to start the desktop from terminal...
[17:52] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: can you do me a favour and restart your pc and get a fresh dmesg and Xorg.0.log. there was something odd about the one you sent. it hadn't started to run until about 15 mins into booting
[17:52] <FourFire> OerHeks: ok, but how do I get it to autoinstall all my packages which I have on this system now?
[17:52] <marisa_> im trying to see symbols from a microsoft office word file on libreoffice, but symbols are not showing properly...how can i active them?
[17:52] <Helias> nasera ;)
[17:52] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: thanks.  I will do
[17:52] <FourFire> I did some command which made some text file of what I've got now
[17:53] <Helias> wrongchat
[17:53] <marxiano> nas
[17:55] <OerHeks> !cloning
[17:55] <dgarstang3> Any rsyslog experts here? I'm trying to log locally and to a remote server. The remote server bit is working, but nothing is getting logged locally.
[17:57] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6411852 and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6411853
[17:58] <rtrm110> is it possible to sync your apps via ubuntu one account? u know on reinstalling ubuntu
[17:59] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: As I said, our tech guy is odd.  I am pretty sure he has a weird setup here.
[17:59] <gvo> FourFire: Use apt-clone to create a clone-file on the OLD partition.  Then install as usual to the NEW partition. Configure grub to boot the new partition then use apt-clone to restore from the file on the OLD partition.
[18:00] <OerHeks> rtrm110, yes, it can be small like a txt file
[18:00] <OerHeks> gvo FourFire rtrm110 this example does the installed + manually installed packages > http://askubuntu.com/a/108760
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: I'm not seeing any issue at all. its probably an issue with your desktop manager. can you tell me the output of: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager       capital X there
[18:01] <high_fiver> Do I need a payed landscape package to use UCCS?
[18:01] <OerHeks> high_fiver, only if you need support i guess
[18:02] <high_fiver> I just want to use the remote session part
[18:02] <gvo> FourFire OerHeks just be sure the files you write are on the OLD parition or a USB drivre.  Not on the new partition.
[18:02] <FourFire> ok
[18:03] <marisa_> how can i see symbols from a ms office document on libreoffice, symbols are not showing properly
[18:03] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: /usr/sbin/lightdm
[18:04] <Guest58721> reading to learn
[18:04] <Guest58721> question about backlit keyboard on 12.04
[18:04] <Guest58721> backlights work fine, but won't turn off. any ideas?
[18:06] <high_fiver> Is the LVM guided partitioning only available on Server distro?
[18:07] <padrino> hello
[18:07] <high_fiver> harrow
[18:07] <Guest58721> hi
[18:07] <padrino> I've got a question...
[18:07] <Guest58721> what's the question?
[18:08] <padrino> My laptop wouldn't boot at all before, I'm not sure why but I think it's a major hard drive failure. I'm currently running Tails OS from a USB and it seems to be working okay (atleast it's working) but I want to ask, if I'm booting Tails OS from a USB and it's working safely, should Ubuntu also work
[18:08] <bazhang> padrino, why not try and see
[18:08] <Danato> Ubutuers who want to watch the 14.04 Convergence Plans live go to http://ubuntuonair.com/ now
[18:09] <Guest58721> I think running from usb is like running from live CD in Ram. Try to see if you can open a terminal and run badblocks. You might have to mount sda1/hda1 first.
[18:09] <high_fiver> Danato, thanks!
[18:09] <padrino> bazhang I came on here a while ago asking the same Q and I was told that if it's a hard drive failure, booting Ubuntu could cause the whole system to brick itself
[18:10] <bazhang> padrino, then include that in your initial question next time
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> Al__ ok have a bunch of logs to get: sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log && sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log && sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log
[18:10] <Guest58721> Anyone correct me if I'm wrong about mounting or unmounting HDD before badblocks please
[18:10] <padrino> bazhang okay, sorry. I just wanted to see people's takes on it
[18:10] <padrino> Guest58721 I don't even understand what that means, haha :p
[18:11] <gvo> badblocks needs to be run on an unmounted FS.
[18:11] <FourFire> ok so I'm saying " sudo apt-clone clone /dev/sda2 --source /dev/sda3" meaning that I want to place my clone file in sda2 (old windows partition D: ) and the clone file is to be of sda3 (my Linux)
[18:11] <Guest58721> badblocks scanns the blocks on your harddrive to see if they're readable. If not, it makes a note of it. If you get (I/O) input/output errors, then you'll probably need a new harddrive.
[18:12] <padrino> FourFire when I booted up Tails OS it said there was an error with sda3 but I just let it load and it seems to be working
[18:12] <gvo> FourFire: Please don't do that.
[18:12] <FourFire> I'm getting an error "OSError: [Errno 20] Not a directory: '/dev/sda3/var'
[18:12] <FourFire> "
[18:12] <FourFire> gvo can you tell me what I should do then?
[18:12] <gvo> FourFire: You need to write to a file on a mounted file system, not a raw device.
[18:12] <padrino> Guest58721 when I booted up Tails it said there was an error with sda3 but I just let it load and it seems to be working...
[18:12] <FourFire> the Linux partition is too small to contain itself
[18:12] <padrino> What would you suggest to do/
[18:13] <Guest58721> Thanks for clearing up unmounted run for badblocks GVO
[18:13] <FourFire> which is why I need to reformat in the first place
[18:13] <FourFire> gvo isn't the windows D:\ a mounted filesystem?
[18:13] <FourFire> it's unmountable from linux
[18:14] <zykotick9> FourFire: perhaps you're unclear what apt-clone does.... it ISN'T a drive imaging software!
[18:14] <Guest58721> FourFire. Do you have ubuntu installed already and it won't boot?
[18:14] <FourFire> yeah, I honestly have no idea what I'm doing
[18:14] <gvo> apt-clone isn't cloning the system, it's just writing the files necessary to restore the packages again.
[18:14] <FourFire> I'm In Ubuntu right now
[18:14] <FourFire> the Ubuntu partition is too small, and I want to resize it
[18:14] <padrino> What is the lightweight distro of Ubuntu?
[18:14] <FourFire> but I also want to save some files I have in my old windows partition
[18:15] <FourFire> and I want to repair this hard drive (because of 50 bad sectors)
[18:15] <gvo> Do you have a usb drive ?
[18:15] <padrino> IUbuntu?
[18:15] <zykotick9> padrino: Lubuntu
[18:15] <padrino> FourFire how did you search for errors in hard drive
[18:15] <FourFire> possibly I just want to install Linux on my spare drive and use that instead, because a drive that damaged is going to fail soon
[18:15] <gvo> I mean a thumb drive not a hard drive FourFie
[18:15] <padrino> zykotick9 thanks man
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: 50 bad sectors = BUY A NEW HDD!
[18:15] <FourFire> gvo yes
[18:16] <Guest58721> If you boot live you should be able to format the ubuntu partition only... leaving the windows fine. Ask GVO. He/She knows more.
[18:16] <FourFire> it's one partition, freshly formatted to ext4
[18:16] <gvo> OK mount it plug in.  Use it as the output for your apt-clone command.
[18:16] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO: I've got one, now how do I copy my system and files and everything over to it?
[18:16] <FourFire> ok neat
[18:17] <padrino> Is the internal HDD even needed if you boot from thumb drive/USB?
[18:17] <Ari-Yang> !saucy
[18:17] <yooozy> I need help with bazaar! I want to version control my site on server then clone it locally to modify it  then merge I've tried this http://pastebin.com/6FRqDMkm  but no data on local folder: ""
[18:17] <gvo> hitsujiTMO: He wants to conserve his (dpkg) packages.
[18:17] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: May I ask what you are looking for?  I mean all I want to do is start the desktop from terminal...
[18:17] <FourFire> can you type the exact command I need to use (external drive is /dev/sdc1 )
[18:18] <FourFire> padrino: I used gparted and S.M.A.R.T. list thing
[18:18] <gvo> fourfire where did /dev/sdc1 get mounted?
[18:18] <padrino> what is the ubuntu general chat?
[18:18] <Pici> yooozy: your best bet would be to ask in #bzr
[18:18] <Guest58721> Al__: [sudo] startx
[18:18] <zykotick9> !ot | padrino
[18:18] <FourFire> I don't know, how do i find that?
[18:18] <Danato> whoever is interested on Ubuntu 14.04 Convergence Plans, watch this live http://ubuntuonair.com/
[18:19] <gvo> do you know how to bring up a console window?
[18:19] <FourFire> yes
[18:19] <gvo> in the console type      mount
[18:19] <padrino> FourFire what was wrong with your HDD?
[18:19] <gvo> You will see all of the devices and their mount points.
[18:19] <Al__> Guest58721: Okay, thanks
[18:19] <yooozy> Pici, no one answered me there (
[18:19] <FourFire> padrino: old: 1.5 years uptime, 6000+ power cycles, laptop, so it's been moving while on sometimes
[18:20] <gvo> Like  /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw)
[18:20] <padrino> FourFire I'm having same problem, to the point where it won't even boot windows :(
[18:20] <gvo> There should be one *** on /dev/sdc1
[18:21] <FourFire> padrino: that sucks, have you got an USB bootable ?
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: if you've 50 bad sectors then expect what you get off the HDD to be corrupt. backup your /home and and global configs you need.
[18:21] <gvo> What's the ***?  Probably /media/something
[18:21] <esde> Got an email from vps provider saying vps was attempting to send smtp mail at ~100+ times per ten minutes. However I'm not aware of any services that would be sending /that much/ mail in /that little/ timeframe. I've checked my mail log and the most recent entry is Oct 2. How can i find out what is trying to send smtp mail?
[18:21] <gvo> hitsujiTMO: We're working on that.
[18:21] <gvo> hitsujiTMO: Give me some time.
[18:21] <phirestalker> I made a fresh install of 13.10 with all the updates. I go to settings then click network, and on the general tab it has some setting pertaining to a firewall, but it is greyed out. How do I enable it? Is there a package I need to install?
[18:22] <gvo> fourfire: ? find it ?
[18:22] <FourFire> "/dev/sdc1 on /media/a0767a1b-92b0-459a-88e4-c2cb58309085 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)"
[18:22] <FourFire> It's just /dev/, I don't understand
[18:23] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6411966/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6411967/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6411968/
[18:23] <gvo> FourFire: That's it.  the dev is the device, raw device.  The /media/... is the actual partition you can access from the computer.
[18:23] <FourFire> ok
[18:23] <bound> when setting up samba to share with windows users on network, would workgroup name to change in the conf file be homegroup?
[18:24] <gvo> FourFire: and that's where the output of the apt-clone is going.  Are you running Ubuntu from the bad partition right now?
[18:24] <FourFire> so what exact command do I need in order to copy my sda3 there?
[18:24] <FourFire> yes
[18:24] <FourFire> it's not bad, just too small
[18:24] <gvo> FourFire: What's on /dev/sda3
[18:24] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: did you recently change the lightdm theme?
[18:24] <FourFire> Linux, some files
[18:25] <FourFire> on sda2 is the old windows D:\ drive
[18:25] <FourFire> where there' more files I want to save
[18:25] <hitsujiTMO> al__ the theme you're currently using is corrupt it seems
[18:25] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: no
[18:25] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: interesting
[18:25] <gvo> FourFire: Back to the mount command, what is it mounted on?
[18:25] <Guest58721> FourFire: believe its cp [file location] [destination]. may need sudo
[18:26] <Guest58721> ask GVO: get confused between cp and mv
[18:26] <gvo> FourFire: Forget the guest.  BAD info.
[18:26] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: As I say, the tech guy here set them up.  These are classroom computers. Not personal ones
[18:26] <d-snp> hi, I'm on saucy, and I run kernel 3.8.0-30-generic, is that normal?
[18:26] <Guest58721> thanks GVO. Just trying to help.
[18:26] <d-snp> because the package linux-headers-3.8.0-30-generic seems to not exist in the saucy repos
[18:26] <FourFire> there's "/dev/sda2 on /media/B67015DD7015A4E1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,d"
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: what version of ubuntu is this again?
[18:27] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: 12.04
[18:27] <gvo> FourFire: So /dev/sda3 isn't in the mount table?
[18:27] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: or so he says
[18:27] <FourFire> sorry I have sda5, not sda3
[18:27] <tarvid> Why is DNS so screwed up with Ubuntu
[18:27] <FourFire> when I said sda3 I meant sda5
[18:27] <FourFire> "/dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[18:27] <FourFire> "
[18:28] <gvo> OK so what files from sda5 do you want to save?
[18:28] <tarvid> I get dns servers from my router but my machine points to 127.0.0.1
[18:28] <FourFire> all of them
[18:28] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: I really appreciate the time you are taking.  Sorry that it seems such a mess.  We are all stressed out about how he has these set up!
[18:28] <d-snp> tarvid: perhaps you run a dns server locally?
[18:28] <gvo> FourFire: No you don't
[18:28] <FourFire> also I want this current installation of Linux copied over to the other drive, settings and all if possible
[18:28] <d-snp> there's a few dns packages that do that
[18:28] <tarvid> Not intentially
[18:28] <gvo> FourFire: That's not the way it works.
[18:28] <d-snp> not sure if the ubuntu default one does
[18:29] <FourFire> uhh. there too many to dig through right now, I'd rather copy them over and delete later
[18:29] <tarvid> bind is not installed
[18:29] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: when I click on "help", it says it is 11.10 but the tech guy says it is 12.04
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> al__: hmm i think the config for lightdm is a bit different from 13.10 so we're going to have to find the necessary file to change the theme
[18:29] <FourFire> (also I have limited time right now so I probably have to do this later)
[18:29] <d-snp> afaik they run a dns locally so they can implement dns caching, I think there's no dns caching in the kernel
[18:29] <gvo> FourFire: OK that changes everything.
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> al__: ls -l /etc/lightdm | pastebinit
[18:30] <zykotick9> tarvid: that localhost dns is normal for N-M... i don't know the details.
[18:30] <gvo> You don't have enought room you told me.
[18:30] <tarvid> it does not work
[18:30] <phirestalker> is there a package on ubuntu 13.10 that will allow configuring the firewall from settings?
[18:30] <FourFire> yes, on the old partition
[18:30] <FourFire> I stupidly only gave linux 30GB
[18:30] <tarvid> localhost is listening on port 53
[18:30] <gvo> FourFire:  How big is the new disk?
[18:30] <FourFire> the drive has 138GB
[18:30] <FourFire> both the old and new one
[18:31] <FourFire> sorry, that's 228GB
[18:31] <d-snp> could anyone tell me wether kernel 3.8.0-30 on saucy is normal, and why there's no headers for it? I'm a bit confused..
[18:31] <FourFire> (250GB but spare ?)
[18:31] <gvo> FourFire: is the new disk mounted?
[18:31] <FourFire> yes
[18:32] <d-snp> can anyone run uname -a for me? :P
[18:32] <gvo> FourFire: can you boot a live cd?
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> al__: to see the version: cat /etc/issue
[18:33] <FourFire> I have an .iso of my current and an bootable USB stick
[18:33] <FourFire> no CDs hanging around though
[18:33] <phirestalker> d-snp: 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:33] <FourFire> all of the same version
[18:33] <gvo> OK so you can boot an stick.  Do that.
[18:33] <d-snp> phirestalker: 3.11? what ubuntu release is that?
[18:33] <FourFire> alright, I'll brb
[18:34] <phirestalker> 13.10
[18:34] <d-snp> :S
[18:34] <zykotick9> !info linux-image | d-snp
[18:34] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6412021/
[18:34] <Guest58721> does anyone know how to turn off backlights on keyboard 12.04
[18:34] <d-snp> ok that explains it, for some reason my ubuntu sources is just out of date
[18:34] <d-snp> I'm running an out of date kernel, and my sources won't give me a new one :S
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> al__: pastebinit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> al__: what did you get from cat /etc/issue
[18:37] <phirestalker> I would like to know what package I need on 13.10 to allow me to configure the firewall from settings
[18:37] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: ohhhh, I didn't know what you meant.  hold on....
[18:37] <d-snp> thanks zykotick9 !
[18:37] <d-snp> I don't get how new kernel versions are optional, bit weird
[18:38] <marisa_> i installed this package to see extra symbols from an ms word file, but still cant see proper symbols, http://askubuntu.com/questions/34077/libreoffice-missing-certain-microsoft-fonts
[18:38] <marisa_> any clues?
[18:38] <phirestalker> d-snp: it is possible you don't have the pseudo package for the kernel selected that facilitates updates
[18:38] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[18:39] <d-snp> phirestalker: yeah, I guess that's the linux-image package zykotick9 told me about
[18:39] <paddyboi> you know when I boot Ubuntu from USB and it says "try" or "install"
[18:39] <paddyboi> Does the install option install it to my internal HDD?
[18:39] <paddyboi> or my thumbb drive?
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> Al__ cool so its the lts alright then, just the: pastebinit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[18:40] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: Good news, I guess :)
[18:40] <Guest58721> keyboard backlights?
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> al__: hopefully it will be a case of switching to the default theme
[18:40] <FourFire> Hello
[18:41] <paddyboi> Guest58721 it's Padrino from the chat a few mins ago
[18:41] <FourFire> oh damn
[18:41] <FourFire> empathy is lame
[18:41] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: I wish that I could understand what this has to do with startx
[18:41] <Guest58721> hi
[18:41] <FourFire> anyhow Im on the stick bootable now
[18:41] <paddyboi> Could you check your PM please?
[18:41] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: hopefully.  You are so nice to take this time to look at it
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> al__: the x session is running. there's no errors. its just the app that loads it (lightdm) is prob where the issue is
[18:41] <zykotick9> Al__: ahhh, if you use ubuntu, you aren't expected to use startx.  just sayin'.
[18:41] <Guest58721> how so? in system settings?
[18:41] <FourFire> gvo: I\m back
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> al__. no problem at all
[18:42] <FourFire> but I\ve got too little time
[18:42] <FourFire> gvo will you be here in four hours_
[18:42] <Guest58721> not  a lot of options. just suspend if lid closed on battery or ac, etc.
[18:42] <paddyboi> Can somebody with adequate knowledge for a noob PM me please?
[18:43] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: You got it, for some reason when I boot, sometimes it comes up with command line prompt!
[18:43] <FourFire> gvo I will be back in four hours, or the same time tomorrow *as when I came here first*
[18:43] <FourFire> damn keyboard is all wrong
[18:43] <FourFire> thanks for your help so far guys
[18:43] <FourFire> bb later
[18:43] <trijntje> paddyboi: you can choose were to install to during the setup
[18:43] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: oooops, that message wasn't meant for you.  sorry
[18:44] <paddyboi> trijnte I'm still on the booting up/loading screen after clicking "install". Been on that for about 5 minutes now, is that normal?
[18:44] <Al__> zykotick9: Yes, tell me about it  :(   the tech guy has our computers all screwed up!
[18:44] <hacyard> hello everyone, I just installed iscan, and it's giving the error "could not send command to scanner. Check the scanner's status"
[18:44] <trijntje> paddyboi: depends, if your computer is pretty old/netbook it could take some time
[18:45] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: So how do I switch back to the default?
[18:45] <KomiaPoika> hi
[18:45] <paddyboi> When I scanned before for errors, it said 1 error was found in one of the files. That's it
[18:45] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: I mean, is it an easy fix?
[18:46] <KomiaPoika> where can i find an image i can write on a usb stick to install ubuntu on a laptop without cd drive?
[18:46] <paddyboi> KomiaPoika from Ubuntu website
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> Al__ can you get me: pastebinit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf      should be a case of just changing the theme in the config file and rebooting
[18:46] <paddyboi> Then use USB universal installer to put on USB
[18:46] <KomiaPoika> it stuffed me with cd image i can't even mount
[18:46] <hacyard> can anyone help me with the software "image scan for linux" please?
[18:46] <trijntje> paddyboi: its better to talk here, so other people can help as wel. Its usually considered rude to PM people
[18:46] <trijntje> KomiaPoika: the default image from the ubuntu website can be written to usb
[18:47] <gvo> KomiaPoika: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[18:47] <paddyboi> trijnte alright sorry, I never knew
[18:47] <paddyboi> But I'm off the booting/loading screen now and it's just preparing to install, going through settings but I think if I install it will just make laptop crash again because it'll install to internal HDD
[18:48] <marc__> FourFire: read the man pages for "cp" if you want to copy all files from one partition on a HDD to another HDD.
[18:48] <KomiaPoika> gvo, thanks, but i don't have usb-creator available
[18:48] <phirestalker> does anyone know why the firewall setting for a network interface would be greyed out in 13.10?
[18:48] <trijntje> paddyboi: no problem, its hard to know these things if you're new ;)
[18:48] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6412093
[18:48] <gvo> KomiaPoika: Running Windows?
[18:49] <KomiaPoika> gvo: no, mac and I can't mount the iso to do it by hand
[18:49] <KomiaPoika> it says "no mountable file systems"
[18:49] <KomiaPoika> and usb-creator is not in macports
[18:49] <gvo> Can't help with a MAC
[18:50] <trijntje> padrino: why would your laptop crash when ubuntu installs to the internal HD?
[18:50] <NuSuey> uh.. anyone got an idea what could be the issue if I'm logged in the system .. see both monitors.. (out of 3) but I don't see my TV (output via HDMI) .. the weird thing is .. I see the logo on the TV, and can output AUDIO ..but I don't detect it in the system :o WEIRD .. btw 12.04 :)
[18:50] <gvo> is it a non PAE processor?
[18:50] <padrino> trijntje my internal HDD has been failing for a while now because it's old (can't even get past booting screen for windows) which is why i chose to boot Ubuntu from USB as opposed to internal HDD
[18:50] <KomiaPoika> gvo: if i dd the iso onto a usb stick, will it boot?
[18:51] <gordonjcp> KomiaPoika: should do
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> al__: ok, thats not the config with theme, try: pastebinit /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[18:51] <abq> join #easynet
[18:51] <gvo> I don't think so.
[18:51] <gordonjcp> padrino: now would be a great time to back up anything you want off that drive :-)
[18:51] <trijntje> padrino: so where do you want to install ubuntu to?
[18:51] <padrino> gordonjcp I restored the PC a while ago so lost absolutely everything anyway
[18:51] <gvo> Find a friend with a linux system.
[18:51] <padrino> trijntje I'm not sure, I was just hoping it'd run from USB, similar to how Tails OS runs
[18:52] <gordonjcp> padrino: should do
[18:52] <trijntje> padrino: sure, but then you need to choose 'try without installing' from the usb
[18:52] <droimerak> hello, maybe somebody can help me? i installed linux mint 14 Nadia in a pc. But is deleted all the PPA, and y need the Original PPA of ñlinux mint 14 nadia. somebody can help me?
[18:53] <padrino> trijntje Ah, okay man. I'll have to reboot when it's finished installing and do that :p
[18:53] <Eleirs> Hello all!
[18:53] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6412130
[18:53] <gvo> droimerak: I think this is a ubuntu support channel.
[18:53] <droimerak> yes, i think so,. thanx aniway
[18:54] <trijntje> padrino: if its an older laptop you could also try xubuntu or lubuntu, its more lightweight than normal ubuntu
[18:54] <phirestalker> does anyone know if there is a package in 13.10 that will add firewall configuration to the settings?
[18:54] <phirestalker> or should I just use one of the many front-ends?
[18:54] <KomiaPoika> to dd an iso onto a usb stick, do i have to write: dd if=disc.iso of=/dev/disk8s1 or of=/Volumes/UNTITLED?
[18:54] <zykotick9> ufw | phirestalker
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: sweet. now to find out what themes are on the system.: ls -l /usr/share/themes/ | pastebinit
[18:54] <zykotick9> !ufw | phirestalker
[18:55] <vt102> On 12.04.3, I have an app which can't connect to a server, says "getaddrinfo: Name or service not known".  However, I can use nslookup and dig and it resolves.  straceing the app, it says "28148 connect(5, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/var/run/avahi-daemon/socket...28148 write(5, "RESOLVE-HOSTNAME-IPV4 snlab032.s".."  Never had DNS not "just work"-- do I need to configure avahi somehow?
[18:55] <phirestalker> zykotick9: thanks
[18:55] <trijntje> KomiaPoika: to /dev/correct_disk. But please be carefull, if you mess up with dd you can trash your system
[18:56] <__blasty> alright so im trying to 'sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dev:i386', but it wont let me
[18:56] <KomiaPoika> trijntje: if i'm sure which is the usb disc nothing can go wrong systemwide right
[18:56] <vt102> My guess is avahi is redirecting out to the Internet somehow-- perhaps daisy.ubuntu.com?  THis is a local DNS name, so if it's bypassing by local DNS servers, it won't resolve.
[18:56] <__blasty> probably because it's a bad idea(tm) anyone have pointers for getting 32bit gl libs going on 64bit ubuntu 12.10 ?
[18:56] <gvo> KomiaPoika: DD won't give you what you want.
[18:56] <trijntje> KomiaPoika: if you write to the correct usb disk, nothing will go wrong
[18:56] <KomiaPoika> gvo: won't make my usb stick bootable ubuntu from the laptop?
[18:57] <gvo> It's time to make friends with a near by linux user or even a windows user.
[18:57] <gvo> KomiaPoika: No
[18:57] <trijntje> KomiaPoika: try this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[18:57] <KomiaPoika> so, how do i go about creating a bootable ubuntu install on usb without usb-creator?
[18:57] <gvo> KomiaPoika: If it did there would be no need for thel likes of usb-creatore or unetbootin
[18:57] <KomiaPoika> trijntje: thx
[18:58] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6412158
[18:59] <lostlind> hi, can someone please give me a helping hand. I am missing a sound module for my kernel. (Activated sound card in bios after install) Card:FCH Azalia Controller using 3.11.0-13-generic kernel
[19:00] <lostlind> lspci -ks 00:14.2  does not provide me with a kernel module. I am stuck
[19:00] <gvo> KomiaPoika: if that doesn't work, here's another possible solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2174630
[19:00] <faryshta> HI. I am using the live USB right now trying to install 13.10 but i keep getting a grub efi error that ends the installation
[19:00] <faryshta> i am on asus x55a
[19:01] <BluesKaj> !efi | faryshta
[19:01] <Kamuela> How do I enable the use of the proprietary HD4000 Intel drivers?
[19:01] <Kamuela> I'm trying to eliminate screen-tearing with compositing
[19:01] <esde> Got an email from vps provider saying vps was attempting to send smtp mail at ~100+ times per ten minutes. However I'm not aware of any services that would be sending /that much/ mail in /that little/ timeframe. I've checked my mail log and the most recent entry is Oct 2. How can i find out what is trying to send smtp mail?
[19:02] <faryshta> BluesKaj: I am having trouble at step 4. I get an error that grub-efi  couldn't be installed
[19:02] <vt102> Anyone?  nslookup and dig resolve .domain.local, but avahi-resolve fails?  How should I fix avahi?
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> al__: ok it seems that's the default xubuntu theme. So lets try reinstall it: sudo apt-get install --reinstall shimmer-themes
[19:05] <KomiaPoika> gvo: dd'ing now
[19:07] <vt102> avahi fixed:  sudo apt-get remove avahi-daemon
[19:07] <padrino> Ubuntu isn't installing on my laptop, it's taking too long
[19:08] <padrino> Is it safe to just power off my laptop during install and reboot?
[19:08] <KomiaPoika> it is safe to just wait
[19:08] <KomiaPoika> and have coffee
[19:08] <faryshta> how do i use proxy-scripts on apt-get?
[19:08] <uncle_ben>  i'm trying to get my skype working...can hear the audio of automated voice on test call, but not my own when i record the test message
[19:08] <uncle_ben> i'm using gnome alsa mixer...which setting should be enabled to pick up my cam mic?
[19:09] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: Okay, so now what is this supposed to accomplish?  Are you saying that if I reinstall this, then I won't need to use startx????   Please explain why I am reinstalling shimmer?
[19:09] <Uuser> 
[19:10] <gvo> uncle_ben: right click on the speaker and bring up the mixer.  Make sure the settings are right in the hardware tab and in the input tab make sure it's not muted and the volume is set to a reasonable level.
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: that should reinstall the corrupted theme. if that was the cause of the greeter breaking then it should fix the issue. fingers crossed and can you try and reboot again
[19:11] <faryshta> hi. having problems with efi. the ubuntu installation dies almost at the end when trying to install grub.
[19:11] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: Pardon another question... What exactily is the "greeter"?
[19:12] <Al__> I mean exactly...
[19:12] <unholycrab> i need to install some fonts on a server that has no GUI, for the purposes of rendering PDFs
[19:13] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: I mean exactly, not exactily  lol
[19:13] <unholycrab> from the instructions i found online, i seem to be missing the fc-cache application
[19:13] <hitsujiTMO> al__ its the layout of the login screen. lightdm is what loads the greeter. and the lightdm log shows it closing right after it opens
[19:13] <BluesKaj> Al__. lightdm , the login page
[19:13] <padrino> Is Ubuntu installation the same as Lubuntu?
[19:13] <linuxfan8650> Pad, yes
[19:13] <Al__> BluesKaj: ahhhh, thanks!
[19:13] <padrino> Cause I've been stuck on this screen for about 20 mins, can anyone tell me if it's normal for that long? http://imgur.com/HSUSAnP
[19:13] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[19:14] <linuxfan8650> pad, I would try to re start the install
[19:14] <KomiaPoika> ubuntu install boots, yay
[19:15] <padrino> linuxfan8650 how would I go about that? Is it safe to just power off computer?
[19:15] <trijntje> padrino: are you sure its not your RAM thats faulty, rather than the harddisk?
[19:15] <linuxfan8650> ya just pull the plug
[19:15] <padrino> trijjntje maybe, not sure. But running from USB (no installation) was working fine
[19:15] <KomiaPoika> linuxfan8650: pulling the plug on laptop doesn't do much
[19:16] <gvo> padrino: Go for it.
[19:16] <padrino> hahahaha
[19:16] <linuxfan8650> Ture, I don't use laptops only desktops
[19:16] <padrino> Just gonna run from USB without installation and use it for browsing the web only
[19:16] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: so after the reboot if its the same issue, we can try reinstalling lightdm.
[19:16] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: How would I go back to what it is now?  What would be the command?  You see, the tech guy may be mad and make me put it back to how it was!
[19:16] <gvo> padrino The only other option is to use it as a door stop.
[19:16] <trijntje> padrino: if you hold shift during start from usb, you get a menu where you can choose 'memtest'. Run that for a couple of hours, if you get any errors your RAM is bad
[19:17] <padrino> gvo lol
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> al__: you haven't actually changed anything. just reinstalled the theme
[19:17] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: okay...
[19:17] <padrino> trijntje yeah I've ran that before and there were a few errors. How much would it cost to replace RAM approx?
[19:17] <linuxfan8650> I have a problem with dirthering graphics and puple and green youtube videos
[19:17] <gvo> padrino I suggest maybe you attempt to put puppy linux or dsl on there to prove that it'll run linux.
[19:18] <gvo> padrino: It can cost as much as a new laptop when they don't make the memory any longer.
[19:18] <trijntje> padrino: no idea, but if the ram is faulty ubuntu wont install/run properly
[19:18] <padrino> gvo it ran Tails OS fine which is a Linux distro
[19:18] <gvo> From disk?
[19:18] <trijntje> padrino: you can run memtest again, write down the adresses of the ba
[19:18] <trijntje> d
[19:18] <padrino> gvo nope, from USB
[19:18] <faryshta> i have an efi problem. I try to install ubuntu but grub can't get installed at the end and I get an error that kills the installation
[19:19] <KomiaPoika> how do i encrypt hard drive at install time?
[19:19] <gvo> padrino: I'm thinking it's just not enought of a system to run Ubuntu maybe.
[19:19] <hitsujiTMO> al__ have you tried the reboot?
[19:19] <trijntje>  padrino; of the bad blocks, and use 'badram' to exclude those. Then you can still use the laptop
[19:19] <Uuser> Installed ubuntu 13.04 on a laptop with Windows 8, but grub doesn't appear..any ideas?
[19:19] <linuxfan8650> Komia, there is a check box you check to encrypt the disk
[19:19] <Br0wn__> Uuser, change boot options in bios
[19:20] <padrino> gvo I'm only running Lubuntu but yeah
[19:20] <linuxfan8650> Komia, that happens during the install
[19:20] <gvo> padrino: that should be OK
[19:20] <padrino> gvo what is the lightest of the light version? Something similar to Tails but not with all the privacy shit
[19:20] <gvo> padrino: I agree with the others that bad ram will give you fits.
[19:20] <gvo> padrino: DSL and PUppy are the lightest.
[19:21] <KomiaPoika> linuxfan8650: don't see such boxes
[19:21] <trijntje> padrino: you cant run anything with bad ram, unless you tell your linux to not use the damaged adresses
[19:21] <gvo> exactly
[19:21] <padrino> trijntje how was I able to run Tails?
[19:21] <Uuser> I can boot but I've to choose the boot options or was it boot device not remember everytime... why I don't get the usual grub screen?
[19:21] <KomiaPoika> i'm at installation type: erase disk... or "something else"
[19:21] <padrino> I was talking to you on Tails about 20 minutes ago from the dodgy laptop
[19:22] <Al__> yes, it rebooted!
[19:22] <gvo> padrino: Because you are running using part of the ram as disk and it's possible that the part of ram the OS is running from isn't bad.
[19:22] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: yes, it rebooted!
[19:22] <faryshta> i have an efi problem. I try to install ubuntu but grub can't get installed at the end and I get an error that kills the installation
[19:22] <trijntje> padrino: if the damaged ram is high up, you will only access it when you use a lot of memory. So lightweight stuff might go well for a while before it crashes
[19:22] <hitsujiTMO> al__ you get black screen still?
[19:22] <padrino> trijntje ah ok, thanks for the explanation :-)
[19:22] <linuxfan8650> Komia is should be on the screen after you slect to wipe disk and then it offers to enrypet the dislk
[19:22] <padrino> trijntje so with bad RAM there's nothing I can do?
[19:23] <arunpandiyan-mur> hi all
[19:23] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: nope.
[19:23] <KomiaPoika> linuxfan8650: ok
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> al__ is it back to normal?
[19:23] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: this looks good
[19:23] <arunpandiyan-mur> I wanna switch over to ubuntu from linux mint
[19:23] <jmgk> .query arunpandiyan-mur
[19:23] <linuxfan8650> WHOis
[19:23] <arunpandiyan-mur> I got the iso in hard drive
[19:23] <Uuser> Brown: [00:51] (Uuser) I can boot but I've to choose the boot options or was it boot device not remember everytime... why I don't get the usual grub screen?
[19:23] <KomiaPoika> linuxfan8650: you mean after timezone selection or do i have to go into advanced partitioning?
[19:23] <jmgk> k
[19:23] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: it did only do the black command screen once in a while.  randomly.
[19:24] <trijntje> padrino: yes there is, but you will need to know where the damage is. For example, if you have 2G ram and the damage is at 1.8, tell ubuntu you only have 1.7 and you'll be fine ;)
[19:24] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: hopefully it will never do it again!
[19:24] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: So, now one final question....
[19:24] <padrino> trijntje alright thanks, would it be possible for you to tell me how to check where the bad RAM is?
[19:24] <linuxfan8650> KomiaPoika yes after time zones, but not on Advanced Partitioning
[19:24] <KomiaPoika> linuxfan8650: i see: encrypt home folder option, but how do i go encrypt the entire disk?
[19:25] <linuxfan8650> I don't you can do the whole disk
[19:25] <KomiaPoika> with alternate install in text mode you used to be able to
[19:25] <Uuser> Maybe use truecrypt then
[19:26] <trijntje> padrino: you will need to run memtest again, and write down where the damage is
[19:26] <faryshta> i have an efi problem. I try to install ubuntu but grub can't get installed at the end and I get an error that kills the installation
[19:26] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: I have several other computers, some of which also have the problem.  To fix them, all I need to do is the reinstall shimmer-themes ????
[19:26] <trijntje> padrino: the thing you are looking for is 'badram', if you google that with ubuntu you get plenty of hits: http://askubuntu.com/questions/151843/exclude-bad-ram-bytes
[19:27] <KomiaPoika> Uuser: truecrypt can't encrypt a disk at install time
[19:27] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: Just this one line sudo apt-get install --reinstall shimmer-themes
[19:27] <trijntje> KomiaPoika: You have to do that by hand I think, choose 'advanced partitioning' or something like that
[19:27] <hitsujiTMO> al__ if its all the same issue then yes. Did the guy try to customise the theme?
[19:27] <monokrome> Oy. Does anyone have an idea why a file named 'core' continues to pop up in my home directory? I delete it daily.
[19:27] <Uuser> I meant after installation
[19:27] <linuxfan8650> sudo apt-get remove windows
[19:27] <hitsujiTMO> Al__: yes that command will reinstall the theme
[19:28] <arunpandiyan-mur> I Updated the Grub Menu Entry to install The UBUNTU , but it doesnt work
[19:28] <arunpandiyan-mur> Any Idea guys
[19:28] <padrino> Error Code 0146. Msg: 2000-0146
[19:28] <padrino> Msg: Hard Drive 0 - self test log contains previous errors
[19:29] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: Yes!  The tech guy has tried to customize lots of stuff!
[19:29] <linuxfan8650> padrino you have a bad HDD then
[19:29] <faryshta> does ubuntu support efi installation?
[19:29] <linuxfan8650> Faryshta yes
[19:29] <padrino> linuxfan8650 so might not be the RAM?
[19:30] <linuxfan8650> SMART is always your HDD.
[19:30] <trijntje> padrino: if memtest gives errors, its always the RAM. Maybe your hd is broke as well though
[19:30] <linuxfan8650> padrino how old is this laptop
[19:30] <padrino> trijntje haven't done memtest, just did the diagnostics test
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> al__: try that command on the other computers and see if it fixes them so. He should learn to thoroughly test his cusomisations before deploying them :P
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> customizations*
[19:31] <faryshta> linuxfan8650: can you help me on how? I get an error when installing ubuntu that grub-efi couldn't be installed
[19:32] <linuxfan8650> faryshta are you dual booting?
[19:32] <faryshta> linuxfan8650: I deleted the windows partition and trying to install ubuntu
[19:33] <linuxfan8650> faryshta, then go in your BIOS and change it to legicey boot or turn off UFIE
[19:33] <gvo> faryshta: 64 bit or 32 bit?
[19:33] <wjtaylor> I tried hibernating to test if my PC would be compatible and it hibernated fine. Now I can't reboot unless I load a previous kernel. How do I fix this?
[19:34] <padrino> It's doing memory test activity, don't think that's the one you were on about though
[19:34] <faryshta> linuxfan8650: how do I do that on bios?
[19:34] <KomiaPoika> prfff, my usb stick doesn't boot anymore... have to dd it again
[19:34] <faryshta> gvo: 64
[19:34] <dreamy_> hi, im asking for some help, does anyone knows how to compile an appilcation in linux?
[19:34] <linuxfan8650> faryshta who makes your PC or laptop?
[19:34] <gvo> faryshta: I agree with linuxfan8650 change bios.
[19:35] <faryshta> linuxfan8650 gvo asus x55a. how do I change that option on bios?
[19:35] <wjtaylor> dreamy_: usually you cd to the directory, type 'configure', then type 'make', then 'make install'
[19:35] <KomiaPoika>  ./configure
[19:35] <peppe3ds> press f2 or del at boot
[19:36] <dreamy_> wjtaylor, id like to practice some chess, and i got a old linux version  and id like to play it on line
[19:36] <linuxfan8650> faryshta http://serenadetoacuckooo.blogspot.com/2013/04/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-asus-x55a.html
[19:36] <Guest46026> dreamy_: compilation instructions can be (sometimes) application-specific. What exactly are you trying to compile?
[19:36] <dreamy_> yes guest
[19:37] <Guest46026> dreamy_: can you provide me a link, so that I can check?
[19:37] <wjtaylor> I think chess.com would be easier and offer you more options, if I'm understanding you correctly.
[19:38] <linuxfan8650> Faryshta did you get the link
[19:38] <OerHeks> dreamy_,  old ubuntu version?
[19:38] <wjtaylor> dreamy_ ^^^
[19:38] <dreamy_> Guest46026,  id like to install a chess game so that i could play it online
[19:38] <Guest46026> dreamy_: can you tell which chess game is this?
[19:38] <wjtaylor> dreamy_: You normally don'
[19:38] <wjtaylor> t have to install things to play online
[19:38] <wjtaylor> unless your running your own server
[19:39] <faryshta> linuxfan8650: reading it.
[19:39] <faryshta> linuxfan8650: so far I am having trouble with boot repair. i am at work and we use a proxy script.
[19:39] <faryshta> linuxfan8650: so I don't know how to use that script on apt-get
[19:40] <dreamy_> OerHeks,  yes im using an old ubntu version. so ..since i cant use synaptics, ill have to compile
[19:40] <OerHeks> !build
[19:41] <linuxfan8650> faryshta, that link is a dual boot setup, so deal with the part of the link that talks about getting in to your BIOS and look around in there for a way to turn off UFIE and turn if off totally
[19:41] <Neurotoxin> help when I try to go into recovery mode, it keeps spamming "'timeout: killing: /sbin/modprobe ......"   i cant type anything into the console!
[19:41] <OerHeks> dreamy_, i hope the servers are up for your version, you need to install some packages
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> dreamy_: you'll need tyo install the build dependencies and build-essentials. if you're on an EOL version of ubuntu then this will not be possible
[19:41] <faryshta> linuxfan8650: i don't get your advice
[19:42] <hitsujiTMO> linuxfan8650: faryshta there should be no need to disable uefi. or you trying to dual boot with a bios install of windows?
[19:42] <malev> hello there! how can I use the character: ñ on the console?
[19:43] <Guest46026> dreamy_: synaptic used to come with old versions of ubuntu. In newer ubuntu versions synaptic doesnt comes by default. You can install it through the software center though. The software center is also the preferred way to install software. I'd recommend you to search the chess game you're wanting to use on the software center first
[19:43] <hitsujiTMO> malev: same way you just used it now.  or do you see a square?
[19:43] <malev> it does not prints anythong
[19:43] <malev> *anything
[19:43] <Guest46026> dreamy_: I'm still very curious to know which chess game is this
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> try copy and paste it into the console
[19:44] <wjtaylor> guest46026: me too
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> malev^^
[19:44] <malev> hitsujiTMO: tried, does not work
[19:44] <gvo> malev is that a character on your keyboard?
[19:45] <malev> gvo: no, it does not. but I can print it here: ñ  :) it seems to be a problem with locale
[19:45] <hitsujiTMO> malev: do you see anything at all instead of it? even a blank space?
[19:45] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: only ubuntu. uninstalled windows
[19:45] <malev> hitsujiTMO: I don't see anything
[19:45] <gvo> malev So you want to be able to enter that character from your keyboard?
[19:45] <malev> yes!
[19:45] <malev> gvo: yes!
[19:45] <hitsujiTMO> malev: what font are you using in the terminal?
[19:45] <Pici> malev: are you using a terminal emulator or directly via a tty?
[19:46] <malev> I don't think it's  fonts problem
[19:46] <malev> Pici: tty
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: have you tried installing yet and was there any error?
[19:47] <Pici> malev: didn't we talk about this a few weeks ago?
[19:47] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: yes. I am on the liveUSB right now. When I tried I got that grub-efi couldn't be installed
[19:47] <dreamy_> Guest46026,  dont you know chess, the board game?
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: can you run this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit efibootmgr
[19:48] <Guest46026> dreamy_: oh sure. I know chess. I think want to install some software, a computer program to play chess, right?
[19:48] <arunpandiyan-mur> grub menu not appears.. can any body help
[19:48] <arunpandiyan-mur> ????
[19:48] <Rory> arunpandiyan-mur: What do you see instead?
[19:48] <malev> Pici: don't think so
[19:48] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: no i can't but i have efibootmgr already installed
[19:48] <Rory> !details | arunpandiyan-mur
[19:49] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: can you pastebin the output of: sudo efibootmgr
[19:49] <gvo> malev try running this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6412384/
[19:50] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: Okay, I will try this on all the other computers.  I think he is just trying to make us all think he is a genius or something with his customizing
[19:50] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: my proxy blocks pastebin http://paste.ofcode.org/pLLmZNfr8Riffj9TegV6a7
[19:50] <Al__> hitsujiTMO: Have a nice day
[19:50] <hitsujiTMO> al__ ty
[19:51] <Pici> gvo: xmodmap isn't really goiong to help with anything thats just on a tty and not in X
[19:51] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: so efi does work. what arcitecture iso are on?
[19:51] <Guest46026> dreamy_: try to search for chess on the software center. It is very likely that you'll find what you're looking for.
[19:51] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: 64bits
[19:51] <gvo> Oh didn't realize he's on a tty
[19:51] <arunpandiyan-mur> ubottu and Rory : I am an user of LINUX MINT, I wanna to switch to Ubuntu , So I decided and got ISO from Ubuntus site, and as per the instructions to install linux distro form hard disk , I have modified the the grub.d/40_custom by adding a menu entry in it.. And I ran the Update Grub command , and reboooted my machine to get into Ubuntu.. But nothing happens, going into mint as usual
[19:52] <Neurotoxin> heeelp, is there a command to supress error warnings? i want to get into recovery mode root shell, but I get spammed with weird error messages
[19:52] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: is gdisk installed? try: sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda             pastebin the results
[19:52] <arunpandiyan-mur> ubottu I'm just in
[19:52] <Rory> arunpandiyan-mur: Can you boot from your Ubuntu Live CD and run the boot-repair tool https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:52] <zykotick9> gvo: (sidenote) a tty is actually ANY terminal (console OR xorg).  the F1-F6 are technically called consoles or linux-consoles
[19:53] <Pici> malev: You may want to look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_Keyboard_Keys_in_Console and askubuntu.com/questions/23610/tty-unicode-problem for more info
[19:53] <malev> Pici: thanks!!
[19:53] <arunpandiyan-mur> The problem is right now i dont have USB drive / Live CD
[19:53] <arunpandiyan-mur> So I just decided to go with Hard Drive Installation
[19:53] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: what way did you install ubuntu? did you tell it to install itself, or did you specify the partitioning?
[19:54] <vamp1561> hellooooo
[19:54] <gvo> zykotick9: Sure, but it's common to differentiate by tty as a  non X terminal.
[19:54] <gvo> I understood what he said.
[19:54] <Neurotoxin> is there a way to repair my sudoers file without going into recovery mode??
[19:54] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: let me try
[19:55] <hitsujiTMO> Neurotoxin: live cd and mount the hdd is the only other option
[19:55] <zykotick9> gvo: i'm just saying, using the wrong terminology can cause problems - down the road.  we should call things by there real names, don't you thing?
[19:55] <Rory> Neurotoxin: You could boot from a Live CD; you need root access to write that file
[19:55] <gvo> Neurotoxin: what hitsujiTMO said.
[19:55] <gvo> zykotick9: Good luck with that.  I agree for what it's worth.  ;)
[19:55] <Neurotoxin> okk, Rory do i have root access from live cd?
[19:56] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: the first time I created a customized partition with /home separated and encrypted. then i tried several times with default installation no encryption
[19:56] <gvo> Neurotoxin: Usually if not direct, from sudo without a password.
[19:56] <Neurotoxin> okk thx
[19:56] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: did you create an efi system partition?
[19:57] <Neurotoxin> sometimes i think linux is neverending fail,,,, try to fix something... sudo breaks... try to fix sudo... recovery mode doesnt work....
[19:57] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: what version of ubuntu is this 13.10 or 12.04?
[19:57] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: yes. the first time i did, from then on the default installed created it
[19:57] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: but the problem is with grub-efi which can't get installed
[19:57] <hitsujiTMO> Neurotoxin: visudo is there so you don't break sudoers file
[19:57] <Rory> Neurotoxin: What did you do to break sudo?
[19:57] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: 13.10
[19:58] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta:you mean grub-efi-amd64?
[19:58] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: yes
[19:58] <Neurotoxin> Rory followed a tutorial even on ubuntuwiki to execute a script with sudo rights in autostart..... broke everything
[19:58] <gvo> Neurotoxin: If you use visudo be sure to edit the mounted files system sudoers file, not the one on the CD.
[19:58] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: is the problem that it needs to download the package from the net but cant because of the proxy?
[19:59] <faryshta> http://paste.ofcode.org/3bSWVj7y9jmAXJ5UvGFhfa
[19:59] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ofcode.org/3bSWVj7y9jmAXJ5UvGFhfa
[19:59] <gvo> Neurotoxin: Don't just type visudo
[19:59] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: I have no idea. I just get an error that grub-efi couldn't be installed
[19:59] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: if you want i can restart the all process and copy/paste the error here. it will take me 10 mins
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: please do. it definately created the efi system partition at least
[20:00] <faryshta> ok back in 10 mins
[20:01] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: now the install program doesn't start :/
[20:01] <hitsujiTMO> :P just restart the disk again :P
[20:02] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: if I do it will take me half hour  to set all the network settings again
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: ok 2 secs then
[20:02] <tambu> Guys, I'm a bit baffled on my ubuntu box I have networking IP statically assigned to eth0 and I have "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8" in the /etc/network/interfaces file.. am I missing something.. I have no DNS resolution at all. I can ping any IPs I want but it's acting like I have no DNS server setup.
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: we'll see if we can finish the install manually
[20:03] <gvo> tambu ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[20:03] <Rory> Neurotoxin: What tutorial were you following, and can you link it so I can check it's OK? What part broke sudo?
[20:04] <faryshta> on hitsujiTMO: no use. i will reboot  the live usb and connect again
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: can you pastebin the outputs of: sudo blkid             and: mount
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: wait
[20:04] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: ok
[20:04] <tambu> gvo: that is where I would have normally set it but now it says DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE by hand.. and from what I read online ti says to use /etc/network/interfaces file
[20:04] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: wut'
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: if its just grub then we can install that
[20:04] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: ok how?
[20:04] <gvo> tambu Is it a real file or a link?
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: chroot
[20:05] <Rory> tambu: The nameservers go in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[20:05] <Neurotoxin> hmmm try to find it
[20:05] <Rory> tambu: At least that's where I've put mine and it seems to work
[20:05] <tambu> gvo: oh i see lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Sep 11  2012 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[20:05] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: can you pastebin the outputs of: sudo blkid             and: mount
[20:05] <OerHeks> tambu, try " sudo dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf "and reboot
[20:05] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: otionne question. if i reboot all the programs installed on liveusb will be lost?
[20:05] <lapion> tambu, 8.8.8.8 is an existing network address not vailable for private networks
[20:05] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: yes they will be lost
[20:06] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: then i must reboot before installing grub
[20:06] <Rory> lapion: tambu is trying to set that as a default nameserver, it's one of Google's nameservers
[20:06] <tambu> lapion: I'm not sure I follow it's google's DNS server I use it for all my computers
[20:06] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: the installer doesn't start
[20:06] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: don't need the installer
[20:06] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: ok
[20:06] <tambu> OerHeks: I tried the dpkg command gonna reboot see how that takes it
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: just pastebin the outputs of: sudo blkid           and: mount
[20:07] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ofcode.org/W9vPSadhJ3wLvr4BMpiE6D blkid
[20:07] <Neurotoxin> Rory  here!!!! http://askubuntu.com/questions/197536/running-a-startup-program-in-terminal-as-sudo   the first answer, when inserting this line it fukks up everything, this liar!
[20:08] <lapion> yeah I'm sorry my mistake
[20:08] <cpined> hello, is there a way to "reset" my ubuntu to what it was when I installed the OS?
[20:08] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: mount http://paste.ofcode.org/34AtipNwwfZCGzyPkTsgkhs
[20:09] <gvo> cpined short of reinstalling, probably not.
[20:09] <cpined> ok...:(
[20:09] <wheatthin> cpined, unless it's just the user configs, and then you can delete & recreate your home folder
[20:09] <maujhsn> gvo I like your answer lol!
[20:09] <Rory> Neurotoxin: What actual line did you add to sudoers. All that line does is allow a specific user to run a specific command as root without a password, at least when it is typed correctly
[20:09] <lapion> cpined maybe if you used btrfs as your filesystem
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: cd ~; mkdir install; sudo mount /dev/sda2 install;
[20:10] <gvo> maujhsn: I think it's accurate, if not helpful. ;
[20:10] <cpined> I've installed some packages that I no longer want...
[20:10] <Neurotoxin> maybe i mistyped it or put it at the wrong place, had no idea how important that file is
[20:10] <gvo> cpined you can remove them
[20:10] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: can you pastebin the output of: ls -ld install/boot/efi
[20:10] <cirwin> what's the correct way of adding to the search paths in resolv.conf — I cna't decipher `man resolvconf` at all
[20:11] <cpined> is there a way to identify what I have installed then decide what to remove?
[20:11] <cpined> I'd hate to go off my memory.
[20:11] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 14 06:46 install/boot/efi
[20:11] <gvo> cpined dpkg -l | grep ^ii | awk {'print $2'} > ~/packagesinstalled.txt will tell you everything that's installed.
[20:11] <wheatthin> you can do a release update which can revert/uninstall packages that weren't from the main install.
[20:12] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: efi folder is empty
[20:12] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: sudo mount /dev/sda1 install/boot/efi
[20:12] <cpined> thanks
[20:12] <cpined> do I then do apt-get remove? or apt-get purge?
[20:12] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: done. efi folder not found
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: cd ~
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> sudo mount /dev/sda1 install/boot/efi
[20:13] <faryshta> boot folder doesn't exists hitsujiTMO
[20:14] <tambu> OerHeks: well rebooted after the suggested command and I still have no DNS set in /etc/resolv.conf this seems really weird..w as fine until I reboot yesterday.. I assume must have been an ubuntu update that broke something and didn't notice till reboot
[20:14] <kyle__> cpined: purge removes all traces.  More or less, any config files or left over directories.  apt-get remove removes everything but configs & dirs
[20:14] <maujhsn> gvo, Is this right? "dpkg -l | grep ^ii | awk {'print $2'} > ~/packagesinstalled.txt"
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: whats the output of: pwd
[20:15] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: i made a mistake on one command, starting again
[20:15] <cpined> ok
[20:15] <kyle__> tambu: Ubuntu's using NetworkManager + dnsmasq by default, so it's a few layers of obfuscation.
[20:15] <gvo> maujhsn: That will tell you all of the installed packages
[20:15] <manso> my ubuntu went crazy
[20:15] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: done right this time
[20:15] <tambu> NetworkManager claims it's not managing my wired interfaces anymore
[20:15] <hitsujiTMO> can you pastebin the output of: mount
[20:15] <manso> I wr
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: can you pastebin the output of: mount
[20:16] <gvo> maujhsn: That includes the ones that came with the origirnal system, however.  Not just the one's you added.
[20:16] <maujhsn> gvo, I learn something new every day in Ubuntu!
[20:16] <kyle__> tambu: OK.  See if dnsmasq is running
[20:16] <manso> iI write stuff with the keybo a0ard andit writes anything, sometimes deletes what I write
[20:16] <lukodiablo> guis its 8812au compatible with aircrack-ng ?
[20:16] <[Gentoo]> lukodiablo: its a driver
[20:16] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ofcode.org/uQYUqkPCtQPvd8KRAwRQ3H
[20:17] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: i think i blew it a little
[20:17] <[Gentoo]> lukodiablo: im pretty sure most will work
[20:17] <tambu> kyle__: I have a dnsmasq process running .. though technically may have just started it when I ran the command it shows a current start time
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: sudo umount /dev/sda2
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: sudo umount /dev/sda1
[20:18] <gvo> tambu: I've not had a lot of luck with making dns work either.  I finally just resorted to making resolv.conf a normal file and editing it.
[20:18] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: please pastebin: mount
[20:18] <manso> for example in the terminal I write a space and it shows " ~"
[20:18] <lukodiablo> gentoo: may it is.. but i can not enable 8812au for monitor mode...
[20:18] <kyle__> tambu: There are some articles out there detailing how to tell NM not to cache DNS using dnsmasq.  You may have to do that, THEN fix the resolv.conf issue.
[20:18] <faryshta> done. the last 4 lines of the mount command dissapeared
[20:18] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO:
[20:19] <maujhsn> gvo, I tried the command and got nothing!
[20:19] <gvo> IMHO Ubuntu dns resolving is too complex/
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: sudo mount /dev/sda2 install && sudo mount /dev/sda1 install/boot/efi
[20:19] <scottbuckel> Is anyone familiar with how Ubuntu's apt repositories are updated?  For example, I'm trying to be PCI Compliant and scanning my software, and for instance curl version 7.22 is vulnerable and has a CVE.  That's the latest version of curl you can get using apt-get upgrade, though.  Curl seems to now be on 7.33...
[20:19] <gvo> Did you edit the file it wrote to maujhsn
[20:19] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ofcode.org/Zxp49HShc6zqznEwvUMjrp  mount output
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: then run the lines here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6412497
[20:20] <gvo> maujhsn: It wrote to ~/packagesinstalled.txt
[20:20] <maujhsn> gvo, No
[20:20] <gvo> maujhsn: It could be quite a few lines, more than you'd want to look at on the screen
[20:21] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: unable to install chroot
[20:21] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: fixed chroot
[20:21] <maujhsn> gvo, I tried the command again  got nothing!
[20:22] <gvo> Did it write to that file?
[20:22] <maujhsn> No
[20:22] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: now pastebin: dpkg --get-selections
[20:22] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: all commands executed, got no errors
[20:22] <gvo> maujhsn: ls -l ~packagesinstalled.txt
[20:22] <maujhsn> Just a minute
[20:23] <gvo> sorry maujhsn ls -l ~/packagesinstalled.txt
[20:24] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: actually, just incase also pastebin: dpkg --get-selections | grep grub
[20:24] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ofcode.org/jzAeTTf4tzVqD4LL963FmW
[20:25] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: grub-common, grub2-common
[20:25] <tambu> gvo: thanks for the help I'll keep hacking on it.. can i just ask.. is the best way to "restart" networking to test if my changes work still to use "service networking restart" I keep doing that after each change to see if it makes a difference but I wanna make sure I am restarting the right services
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: apt-get install grub-efi-amd64
[20:26] <maujhsn> gvo, "-rw-rw-r-- 1 maujhsn maujhsn 25191 Nov 13 12:18 /home/maujhsn/packagesinstalled.txt" is this a permissions issue?
[20:26] <gvo> tambu: good luck service networking restart usually works but sometimes it takes a reboot.  I don't quite understand why.
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: i need to go afk for 3 or 4 mins. let me know if there's a problem with that apt-get. we may have to manually get the packages
[20:27] <gvo> maujhsn: No, the file is there and you wrote to it.  So now edit it and you will see the results of the command.  Or do a more /home/maujhsn/packagesinstalled.txt
[20:27] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: Package grub-efi-amd64 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[20:28] <maujhsn> gvo, "Very interesting"..."Very Interesting"!
[20:28] <gvo> maujhsn: The "script" I gave you writes its output to that file.  You have to then look at the file to see what it says.  You do that with and editor, or the more command or the less command or if you like to watch crap spin by, the cat command.
[20:29] <gvo> do that with an editor,
[20:29] <Machtin> Hey guys.. Pulseaudio is giving me some trouble and I wondered if someone could help me. I'm on 13.10 (kubuntu). pavucontrol says it can't connect to pulseaudio and I don't have sound.
[20:29] <gvo> Machtin: Has it ever worked?
[20:30] <Machtin> gvo: not since 13.04
[20:30] <lukodiablo> guys anyone have expirience with RTL8812
[20:31] <wheatthin> Machtin, can you go into the console and type  "alsamixer"
[20:31] <maujhsn> gvo, Thanks,
[20:31] <gvo> maujhsn: np
[20:31] <Machtin> wheatthin: yep.. and if I deinstall pulseaudio, alsa works
[20:31] <maujhsn> np?
[20:31] <Machtin> maujhsn: "no problem"
[20:31] <gvo> np == no problem.
[20:31] <maujhsn> Ok
[20:32] <wheatthin> sounds like bug to me
[20:32] <gvo> Machtin: pavucontrol
[20:33] <Machtin> gvo: What about it?
[20:33] <gvo> Does it run?
[20:33] <Machtin> looks like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/3P84u.png
[20:34] <tambu> Just as a general FYI I added my "nameserver 8.8.8.8" command to the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base file as someone suggested (sorry can't scrollback to give credit).. my DNS is now working after doing a "service resolvconf restart" it shows the dns server in /etc/resolv.conf.. and it survives a reboot.. I'm not sure if this is the "correct" way but at this point it works :) Thanks to whowever suggested the base file!
[20:34] <gvo> Machtin: I assume you tried the suggestion in the error message.
[20:34] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: apt-get update && apt-get install grub-efi-amd64
[20:35] <Machtin> gvo: you partially assume wrong. Wouldn't know where to change the environment variable.. or to what
[20:35] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: ok
[20:35] <gvo> The last line
[20:35] <Machtin> gvo: correct, doesn't run.
[20:35] <gvo> Any error message from the start-pulseaudio... command?
[20:35] <Machtin> Connection failure: Connection refused       pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: what version of ubuntu did you say this was again?
[20:36] <gvo> Have you tried it as root?
[20:36] <Machtin> gvo: sudo.. same thing
[20:36] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: 13.10
[20:36] <Machtin> except for an additional "Home directory not accessible: Permission denied"
[20:36] <gvo> Machtin: Try this  pulseaudio -k; pulseaudio -vvvvv
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: did that install or is there errors getting the update/packages?
[20:37] <gvo> Machtin: wait
[20:37] <Machtin> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such file or directory
[20:37] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: updating
[20:37] <vlt> Hello. I have a problem with Ubuntu 13.10.  A desktop session was locked and I clicked on "switch user". The screen got black with only a blinking cursor top left and the mouse pointer. How to get my session back?
[20:37] <gvo> machtin first tun off respawn by editin  ~/.pulse/client.conf and putting in the line autospawn = no
[20:38] <gvo> Machtin: Then run pulseaudio -vvvvv
[20:38] <wolfybox> i can't boot into windows anymore and my wifi doesn't work in ubuntu anymore, but works fine in installer...
[20:39] <Machtin> gvo: my client.conf is in /etc/pulse - i don't seem to have .pulse in my home directory
[20:39] <uncle_ben> if i use gnome alsa-mixer and change settings...will they persist when i exit the program or do i have to save the state (as root) at the command line?
[20:39] <reisio> uncle_ben: they're supposed to persist
[20:39] <reisio> uncle_ben: if they don't something is awry
[20:39] <gvo> Machtin: mkdir ~/.pulse
[20:39] <uncle_ben> reisio, ok...i'll test it with a reboot!
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: ping me when its done
[20:40] <reisio> uncle_ben: testing ftw
[20:40] <uncle_ben> lol
[20:40] <gvo> Machtin: Then create .pulseaudio/client.conf
[20:40] <gvo> Sorry .pulse/client.conf
[20:41] <Machtin> gvo: .pulse and .pulseaudio as directories?
[20:41] <Machtin> ah, kk
[20:41] <maujhsn> Machtin, Yes!
[20:41] <gvo> Machtin: My fingers get away from me.
[20:42] <maujhsn> Machtin "Pulseaudio...is the BOMB!
[20:42] <gvo> Machtin: If you don't have paman installed, install it.
[20:42] <reisio> it may well be the best audio package that almost nobody needs ever :)
[20:43] <wolfybox> how do i fix my windows boot? i can't boot into it, it just displays a screen the color of the grub menu and nothing happens?
[20:43] <maujhsn> Machtin, Install pavucontrol if it isn't installed!
[20:43] <reisio> wolfybox: you think this has to do with Ubuntu?
[20:43] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: is the network there pretty slow?
[20:43] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: done, no errors
[20:43] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: yes. proxy is shit
[20:43] <gvo> maujhsn: It is installed and isn't working.
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: cat /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab
[20:44] <wheatthin> gvo, can try to purge it and reinstall
[20:44] <gvo> wheatthin: What?
[20:44] <maujhsn> Good idea!
[20:44] <wheatthin> pulseaudio.
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: update-grub && grub-install
[20:44] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: done, no errors
[20:45] <maujhsn> purge and re-install
[20:45] <gvo> wheatthin: I don't think that's it.  I think the problem is upstream from that, perhaps missing modules.
[20:45] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: Boot0000* ubuntu Installation finished. No error reported.
[20:45] <wolfybox> how do i fix my wifi in ubuntu?  this is what lsusb tells me about it: Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1286:2043 Marvell Semiconductor, Inc.
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: fingers crossed that your reboot will bring you into your xubuntu installation :P
[20:45] <gvo> wheatthin: the pulseaudio application won't run.  If it doesn't run the mixer won't be of much use.
[20:46] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: ok rebooting
[20:46] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: even if it doesn't work. thanks
[20:46] <Machtin> gvo: the command gives a lot of output and ends in "Floating point exception (core dumped)"
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: np
[20:46] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: very appreciated
[20:46] <maujhsn> gvo the guy really needs to purge PA and reinstall!
[20:46] <wheatthin> gvo, so purging pulseaudio might work due to whatever corruption/uninstalled module to load after a clean install
[20:47] <Machtin> maujhsn: long done.
[20:47] <gvo> Machtin: That's your problem.  Do you see any other errors?  So these guys obviously know more than I do, so reinstall pa.
[20:47] <wheatthin> if alsamixer is working, but pulse audio isn't..
[20:47] <Machtin> gvo: I did a couple of times already
[20:47] <maujhsn> wheattin I with you on this one!
[20:47] <gvo> Machtin: If it doesn't work, come back and I'll try to help some more.
[20:48] <Machtin> gvo: like I said.. happened several times (deinstalling, installing and purgin/installing)
[20:49] <gvo> Machtin: OK so install paman, but I suspect you've found  a bug.
[20:49] <maujhsn> Machtin If it still doesn't work with the suggestions we gave you, leave PULSE alone!
[20:49] <Machtin> I did install that, what to do with it now?
[20:49] <Machtin> maujhsn: how to handle my sound then in a halfway decent manner?
[20:50] <gvo> Machtin: Run it
[20:50] <Machtin> gvo: uh. connection refused.. all the data is n/a
[20:51] <maujhsn> Machtin There is OSS, GStreamer as alternatives!
[20:51] <wolfybox> how do i fix my wifi in ubuntu?  this is what lsusb tells me about it: Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1286:2043 Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. WIFI works in liveusb but not in ubuntu
[20:51] <Machtin> anyway. maujhsn my problem is.. I have more than one sound card and I want to be able to chose which card to output from, depending on the application.. e.g. headset links to skype.
[20:51] <wheatthin> oss is deprecated tho isn't it?
[20:51] <reisio> wheatthin: yup
[20:51] <gvo> Machtin: I'm guessing it's a bug.
[20:52] <Machtin> gvo: me too. :(
[20:52] <reisio> and gstreamer runs on top of something else
[20:52] <reisio> as does pulse
[20:52] <maujhsn> Pulseaudio...is GOD!
[20:52] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: you are a genius.
[20:52] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | faryshta
[20:52] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: do you have any project where I can contribute?
[20:52] <gvo> maujhsn: except when ti doesn't work.
[20:53] <maujhsn> lol
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: lol not atm
[20:53] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: do you have email? i would love to keep in touch
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> i don't give out my email. but I'm on this channel very regularly
[20:54] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO: cool and thanks again
[20:54] <faryshta> see you soon
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: np
[20:55] <Guest254> From a technical point of view, What do Ubuntu and Debian have in common, besides the package manager?
[20:55] <gvo> Machtin: Just one more thing.  Did you do a fresh install of the OS or upgrade from 13.04?
[20:55] <wolfybox> is there anyway of checking a windows partition from inside ubuntu
[20:55] <Machtin> gvo: upgrade
[20:55] <gvo> Machtin: You might have a stale config file laying around.
[20:56] <Machtin> even after purging?
[20:56] <gvo> Machtin: It's possible.
[20:57] <gvo> Just for the heck of it, create a new user, log in as the new user and run the pulseaudio -vvvvv again.
[20:57] <Rory> Guest254: Different package versions and configs, mostly
[20:57] <hafsi> hi
[20:57] <Rory> Machtin: You can also use the guest user instead of creating a new user
[20:57] <Machtin> gvo: fair enough.. be back soon
[20:58] <Machtin> nah, got another one i created recently anyway
[20:58] <Rory> wolfybox: By "checking" do you mean the equivelant of Windows chkdsk?
[20:59] <gvo> wolfybox: FAT32 or NTFS?
[21:00] <Guest254> Rory: thanks
[21:00] <DrGrim_> test
[21:00] <DrGrim_> eh
[21:01] <sivel__> is it possible to "map" a ddns name  -my.domain.com like in /etc/hosts ? like a reverse lookup ?
[21:03] <mbff_> hello!
[21:03] <cr549> Hello
[21:03] <akino> Hi, is there any live media player with ubuntu or linux,  with free browser and flash player?
[21:03] <dryicebomb> sivel__: in /etc/hosts you can map a name to an IP, but it's not dynamic, you would have to manually update it as your Ip changes
[21:03] <mbff_> anyway to install gnome 3.8 on ubuntu server 12.04?
[21:03] <sivel__> gotcha . thanks yet again
[21:03] <mbff_> trying to build a minimal ubuntu build without unity
[21:04] <cr549> @cr549
[21:04] <dryicebomb> sivel__: are you trying to access a box that has a dynamic ip?
[21:05] <sivel__> yes, and it has a ddns  assignment ? 1.1.1.1 (changes) > my.domain.com (stays the same)
[21:05] <akino> Hi, is there any live media player with ubuntu or linux,  with free browser and flash player?
[21:05] <ariel__> how install eric 5  in ubuntu 13.10
[21:05] <dryicebomb> check out no-ip.com they do free dynamic dns and they have a linux client that you can run, and it will auto update the DNS http://www.noip.com/download?page=linux
[21:05] <Machtin> gvo: didn't change anything I'm afraid
[21:06] <ariel__> my english is so so
[21:06] <maujhsn> gvo, your having a good day! Question Why is it when i drag my mouse over an audio file I on longer hear it auditioned on my speakers?
[21:06] <reisio> akino: huh?
[21:06] <gvo> Machtin: It was a long  shot.
[21:06] <ariel__> please help
[21:06] <reisio> ariel__: sudo apt-get install eric
[21:06] <Guest254> akino: please define "free browser". The Flash player is by definition non-free.
[21:06] <akino> reisio why hun??
[21:06] <ariel__> yes
[21:06] <reisio> akino: don't understand what you're asking
[21:06] <ariel__> install 4.5
[21:06] <Machtin> gvo: thanks for trying though! Maybe it'll be fixed at some point.
[21:07] <gvo> maujhsn: I don't think it's been good.  I can't say.  It works for me in 12.10.  I don't have anything newer than that.
[21:07] <sivel__> allright,ill check it out. my router aleady has a ddns assigned through asus though.
[21:07] <Machtin> just a bit annoying, because I also don't seem to be able to watch a movie, pause it and play youtube e.g.
[21:07] <maujhsn> gvo, I'm using 12.04
[21:07] <akino> reisio te lo escribo en el idioma de los antiguos conquistadores Hola,¿ hay algún reproductor multimedia live ,con ubuntu o linux, que dispongan de navegador libre y flash player ?
[21:08] <dryicebomb> sivel__: then you should be able to reach it via the domain name assigned to your account then, no matter what the IP address is.
[21:08] <maujhsn> gvo, Wow! I'd like to be able to use that feature again!
[21:08] <auronandace> !gnash | akino
[21:08] <gvo> maujhsn: audio preview was remove in gnome 3.
[21:08] <ariel__> que al instalar  con el ap-get me instala la version 4.5
[21:09] <auronandace> akino: there is also lightspark
[21:09] <ariel__> y necesito la 5
[21:09] <maujhsn> gvo, Removed...how come it was such a cool feature!
[21:09] <gvo> maujhsn: You could try to install gloobus
[21:09] <sivel__> i can, but i was wondering how to "alias" that permanently so that i could see in the auth logs, for example blah connected from blah.com. something like that
[21:09] <akino> auronandance wrong i not ask that
[21:10] <auronandace> !tab | akino
[21:10] <gvo> maujhsn: I have no idea why anyone does stupid things,  for instance Unity why was that abortion allowed to live?
[21:10] <reisio> akino: what do you  mean live?
[21:10] <dryicebomb> sivel__: ah, ok. I'm not sure how to accomplish that.
[21:10] <maujhsn> gvo, Haha thats hot!
[21:11] <akino> reisio an hardware like western digital live but not closed
[21:11] <sivel__> did i i explain that somewhat correctly ? im lost on the wording for that.
[21:11] <mbff_> anyway to install gnome 3.8 on ubuntu server 12.04?
[21:11] <gvo> maujhsn:  I haven't tried gloobus but I'm told it behaves in a similar manner.
[21:11] <mbff_> trying to build a minimal ubuntu build without unity
[21:11] <reisio> akino: sorry that doesn't make sense
[21:11] <auronandace> !rockbox | akino
[21:12] <[Gentoo]> mbff_: gnome is hardly minimal lol
[21:12] <maujhsn> gvo, Thanks, I'll pass!
[21:12] <[Gentoo]> mbff_: ubuntu has a minimal install cd
[21:12] <mbff_> well, i like it, but ubuntu comes with so much crap these days
[21:12] <auronandace> !mini | mbff_
[21:12] <akino> reisio western digital live dont have  no sense for you ????
[21:13] <reisio> akino: nope
[21:13] <akino> reisio and apple tv ???
[21:13] <mbff_> ok thanks, although i've read that server install works better
[21:13] <[Gentoo]> mbff_: you're better off with the minimal cd
[21:14] <maujhsn> gvo, The joys of distance learning!
[21:14] <reisio> akino: what about apple tv?
[21:14] <[Gentoo]> loads of people seem to do it the server way which would work, but im not sure whats changed in the server install, the kernel might be slightly less responsive for desktop use
[21:14] <gvo> maujhsn: how true.  Did that do anything for you?
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> akino: are you looking for a htpc?
[21:15] <akino> i want a hardware like apple tv but very free and with ubuntu or linux , is there??
[21:15] <BuntuFuntu> AKINO: I think Roku Box runs linux?
[21:16] <hitsujiTMO> akino: http://www.geekbuying.com/ look at the tv boxes there
[21:16] <maujhsn> gvo, I'll pass, because I use liveUSB, and disk space is the issue!
[21:16] <gvo> maujhsn: OK
[21:16] <reisio> akino: oh yes
[21:16] <akino> buntufuntu roku bos support flash bplayer
[21:16] <akino> ??
[21:16] <plwweasel> akino: roku is a good solution for netflix, amazon, plex, pandora, ect.
[21:16] <_space_> can anyone help me network a 7 box and a 13.10 htpc?
[21:16] <reisio> akino: they're called PVR
[21:17] <maujhsn> gvo, Take care my new friend...gotta go!
[21:17] <reisio> akino: look into mythtv, xbmc, freevo
[21:17] <gvo> maujhsn: Bye
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> akino: these are mostly android: http://tvbox.geekbuying.com/
[21:17] <reisio> akino: roku doesn't do flash, and it's proprietary nonsense
[21:18] <reisio> a lot of newer TVs come with all this stuff, though
[21:18] <reisio> particularly ones marketed as 'smart'
[21:18] <reisio> particularly samsung tvs
[21:18] <akino> ok but i search hardware very similar to apple tv but very free and with ubuntu or linux
[21:18] <reisio> akino: hardware doesn't matter, any small low power computer with the ports you require will suffice
[21:19] <akino> apple tv hasnt browser for the net
[21:19] <reisio> akino: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_single-board_computers https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi#Should_I_buy_a_Rasberry_Pi.3F
[21:19] <reisio> akino: that's a software limitation apple forces then, not a hardware issue
[21:19] <akino> raspeberry hasnt a good hardware , her hardware is very and very poor
[21:19] <hitsujiTMO> akino: have a look at that link i gave you. lots of android based devices there
[21:20] <disappearedng> hey I want to set a static ip for my computer. However, the only way to do this is by selecting "Manual" in network configuration. I have an existing working internet connection, how can I find out my current DNS server and search domain?
[21:21] <reisio> akino: if you look at the page, it isn't really about raspberry pi
[21:21] <reisio> akino: although a raspberry pi has all the hardware you would need for an apple tv alternative
[21:22] <silidan> how do i move an already started application to another desktop in unity?
[21:22] <hitsujiTMO> exit
[21:22] <hitsujiTMO> wc
[21:22] <BuntuFuntu> Akino: Maybe you should try Ouya?
[21:22] <kyle__> reisio: Ehhh, the AppleTV has a more powerful ARM in it, and they provide (their own) hardware codecs.  The pi can do it, but it's under high load the entire time.
[21:22] <akino> reisio what is the type of cpu that use rasperberrypi??
[21:23] <gvo> 1 GHz ARM cortex-A8
[21:23] <gvo> Sorry that's wrong.
[21:23] <kyle__> akino: It's a very weak ARM processor, I forget the exact model.  The cubieboard has a similar footprint, costs $60-$80, and uses a much more powerful & modern processor
[21:23] <akino> dual core ???
[21:23] <BuntuFuntu> AKino: You should try A Raspberry Pi or a Ouya
[21:23] <akino> cpu sual core??
[21:23] <gvo> That's the cubieboard.
[21:24] <auronandace> silidan: rightclick the titlebar and move to whatever workspace
[21:24] <kyle__> ARMv6 r7 at 700mhz.
[21:24] <kyle__> Had to ssh into mine.
[21:24] <gvo> ARM1176JZF-S (ARMv6k) 700 MHz
[21:24] <akino> if ouya has a free browser with support for flash player , yes
[21:24] <silidan> auronandace: thanks
[21:25] <BuntuFuntu> Akino: It runs Android so it may (:
[21:25] <BuntuFuntu> I'm pretty sure Android supports flash, not for sure.
[21:25] <akino> ouya use the version 11.1 of lash player???
[21:25] <KomiaPoika> there is youtube app in android so, yes
[21:26] <Pici> !offtopic
[21:26] <hitsujiTMO> akino: akino I've the dual core version of this and it's pretty sweet: http://www.geekbuying.com/item/IMITO-QX2-RK3188-Quad-Core-Google-Android-4-2-2-OS-Cortex-A9-1-6GHz-Mini-PC-TV-Box-2G-8G-BT-WIFI-Silvery-319120.html
[21:26] <Kamuela> Where is the repo for the HD4000 drivers?
[21:26] <kyle__> BuntuFuntu: To some extent.  It also depends on the distro of Android you're using, and the version tops out pretty quick.
[21:27] <akino> ok but i want a hardware for using it with an old tv too
[21:27] <kyle__> akino: Try doing a bit of googling then.
[21:27] <MissValeska> I need help, My amd drivers and fglrx got messed up when I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10
[21:28] <kyle__> MissValeska: Sure you still have them?  I thought that was one (of the many) things that was removed when you did a do-release-upgrade.
[21:29] <MissValeska> I used the amd driver .run thingy to generate the fglrx packages, And I installed them, But, It made my screen entirely black. EVen after running aticonfig --initial, So, I uninstalled them. And I cannot install it at all anymore
[21:29] <akino> kyle i do it  but only find western digital live , apple tv and izzape
[21:29] <reisio> kyle__: glad you agree with me
[21:29] <MissValeska> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:29] <MissValeska>  fglrx : Depends: xorg-video-abi-11 but it is not installable or
[21:29] <MissValeska>                   xorg-video-abi-12 but it is not installable or
[21:29] <MissValeska>                   xorg-video-abi-13
[21:29] <MissValeska>          Recommends: fglrx-amdcccle but it is not going to be installed
[21:29] <MissValeska> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:29] <FloodBot1> MissValeska: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:29] <M00sL0gB0t> IndexError: string index out of range (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/willie/coretasks.py", line 162, in track_modes)
[21:30] <resure> Is there any workarounds for terminal tabs color? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/851207
[21:30] <MVanDruff> hey guys i ran sudo apt-get install netflix-desktop and the installed file does not respond how do i uninstall it
[21:30] <akino> an izzape has free browser but no support of flash player
[21:30] <kyle__> Heh.  MissValeska, try and apt-get purge the fglrx drivers. Then re-install them.
[21:30] <akino> and izzape
[21:30] <JoshuaP> Probably a dumb question, but is every crash report looked at?
[21:30] <MissValeska> okay
[21:31] <MissValeska> I figured out by running the amd driver .run thingy without generating packages that, It only supports an older kernel.
[21:31] <resure> Ubuntu is so awesome. Confirmed in 2011-09-15 bug still wasn't fixed
[21:31] <wheatthin> JoshuaP, indeed, but some have more priority
[21:31] <MissValeska> dpkg: warning: while removing fglrx, directory '/usr/share/ati' not empty so not removed
[21:31] <BuntuFuntu> Mvandruff: I think sudo remove netflix-desktop
[21:31] <JoshuaP> wheatthin: such as?
[21:31] <BuntuFuntu> Not sure though.
[21:31] <MissValeska> I still have the same problem when I try to install fglrx
[21:31] <akino> i do pause because i see avatar now, avatar film was made with ubuntu os , true???
[21:32] <MVanDruff> thanks i will try
[21:32] <wheatthin> JoshuaP, lol would it matter as long as it's addressed at some time?
[21:32] <kyle__>  /ignore akino
[21:32] <kyle__> Stupid keyboard.
[21:32] <MVanDruff> that apparently was not it
[21:33] <BuntuFuntu> MVANDruff: From the AskUbuntu forums:
[21:33] <akino> kyle why you ignore me??
[21:33] <JoshuaP> wheatthin: I suppose not. Again it was probs a dumb question and I'm sorry. xD :P
[21:33] <BuntuFuntu> MVanDruff: apt-get remove packagename will remove the binaries, but not the configuration or data files of the package packagename. It will also leave dependencies installed with it on installation time untouched. apt-get purge packagename, or apt-get remove --purge packagename will remove about everything regarding the package packagename, but not the dependencies installed with it on installation. Both commands are equivalent. P
[21:33] <kyle__> MissValeska: You should be able to remove that directory.  If you're being paraonoid, just rename it to ati.old.
[21:33] <blocky> so out of the blue my 13.10 install (toshiba laptop) fails to boot into x, doesn't start wifi, and from what i can tell the only problem it's reporting is that the system bus is nonexistent (/var/run/dbus/ is empty)
[21:33] <MissValeska> okay, Though, I did check inside, And it's just a log file
[21:33] <MissValeska> A log file and license
[21:33] <blocky> any suggestions?
[21:35] <wheatthin> blocky, were there a recent update & or custom graphics drivers installed?
[21:38] <Semajnad> If I have got this, how can I make another group that's chrooted in a different location? http://pastie.org/8478566 Whenever I do it at the moment, it completely stops access to SSH (to any user including root)
[21:38] <blocky> wheatthin: i don't believe any recent changes were made
[21:40] <blocky> wheatthin: it's my brother's system and he says all he was doing the last time it worked was browsing in firefox, listening to music and using openoffice
[21:41] <MissValeska> umm? Hello?
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> blocky, Are you using proprietary graphic drivers?
[21:41] <reisio> MissValeska: um hi
[21:41] <_space_> can anyone help me network a 7 box and a 13.10 htpc?
[21:42] <MissValeska> Can you help me? kyle was helping me, But, He disappeared
[21:42] <_space_> have tried multipe things to no avail
[21:42] <reisio> MissValeska: help you with what?
[21:42] <MissValeska> Ubuntu amd driver stuff, And other ubuntu things
[21:42] <blocky> wilee-nilee: no it's onboard graphics
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> blocky, There was a kernel upgrade as of late proprietary drivers wont follow that is why I ask.
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> blocky, try another kernel from the grub menu just to test.
[21:43] <kyle__> MissValeska: WHat happens when you do the fix missing?
[21:44] <blocky> wilee-nilee: there's only the one kernel. the system doesn't even have windows on it. I'd install another but networking is down
[21:44] <MissValeska> It's running, wait a second
[21:44] <blocky> it's a core i5 M430
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> blocky, This a fresh install, are you sure there is only one kernel?
[21:45] <MissValeska> Okay, Basically
[21:45] <MissValeska> It updates the default sources
[21:45] <MissValeska> but all other sources fail
[21:45] <blocky> wilee-nilee: the grub menu has Ubuntu and two memtests, and if you select ubuntu you get the option of 3.11.0-8 or the same in recovery mode
[21:45] <MissValeska> Even though they ALL worked PERFECTLY before the upgrade
[21:46] <MissValeska> It says "failed to fetch, 404 not found" on them all
[21:47] <TheLordOfTime> MissValeska, are the other sources ppa.launchpad.net and others?  because when you upgrade, the PPAs and other repositories might not yet have been updated for the latest releases.
[21:47] <TheLordOfTime> and may not have any packages (hence the 404s)
[21:47] <MissValeska> Yes, They are all ppa.launchpad.net
[21:48] <xbox_> alguem
[21:48] <Semajnad> If I have got this, how can I make another group that's chrooted in a different location? http://pastie.org/8478566 Whenever I do it at the moment, it completely stops access to SSH (to any user including root)
[21:48] <xbox_> blaster
[21:48] <_space_> can anyone help me network a 7 box and a 13.10 htpc?
[21:49] <reisio> _space_: what's a '7 box'?
[21:49] <_space_> windows 7 desktop
[21:49] <_space_> sorry
[21:50] <reisio> and exactly what is the problem?
[21:50] <Blaster> xbox_:  yes?
[21:50] <_space_> neither can see each other, both on same network. have installed samba and modified the conf file
[21:50] <reisio> modify it properly
[21:50] <_space_> have also changed settings in windows but still they dont see each other
[21:51] <_space_> whats the proper way to modify it
[21:52] <_space_> i made sure workgroup was workgroup and added this..
[21:52] <_space_> [share]
[21:52] <_space_>     comment = Ubuntu File Server Share
[21:52] <_space_>     path = /srv/samba/share
[21:52] <_space_>     browsable = yes
[21:52] <_space_>     guest ok = yes
[21:52] <FloodBot1> _space_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:52] <_space_>     read only = no
[21:52] <reisio> _space_: can the machines ping each other?
[21:52] <reisio> FloodBot1: six lines from you, seen from him
[21:52] <reisio> gj
[21:52] <reisio> seven*
[21:52] <Semajnad> If I have got this, how can I make another group that's chrooted in a different location? http://pastie.org/8478566 Whenever I do it at the moment, it completely stops access to SSH (to any user including root)
[21:52] <_space_> yes they can
[21:53] <_space_> sorry for flood
[21:54] <reisio> don't be sorry, the bot flooded as much as you did
[21:56] <_space_> i can see windows network, then workgroup and homegroup
[21:56] <_space_> times out when i try to browse those
[21:56] <reisio> probably be easier to make the Windows box see the Unix box
[21:56] <reisio> than the reverse
[21:56] <aaa801> Im running a shoutcast dnas server on ubuntu 12.04 server  and after a random amount of time it core dumps , i ran it through strace and got this when it crashed
[21:56] <aaa801> http://troll.ws/paste/f9d18134
[21:57] <_space_> i just need to access a shared folder on the windows box ...
[21:57] <Semajnad> If I have got this, how can I make another group that's chrooted in a different location? http://pastie.org/8478566 Whenever I do it at the moment, it completely stops access to SSH (to any user including root)
[21:57] <_space_> whats the easiest way to make windows see it
[21:58] <reisio> samba
[21:58] <reisio> well actually the easiest way is sshfs
[21:58] <reisio> but that has more overhead than you'd ideally want long term
[21:58] <_space_> ive installed samba...
[22:02] <_space_> so any idea what to check or do?
[22:02] <Reflow> how to delete emacs's #file#
[22:03] <reisio> _space_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide
[22:03] <reisio> Reflow: #emacs
[22:03] <vlt> Hello. How can I choose the HDMI audio out in the tray’s audio (icon) settings dialog?
[22:04] <_space_> thank you
[22:04] <vlt> It isn’t listed there. Appears only in `aplay -L` for example.
[22:04] <heavyammo> How come Skype is not available in Ubuntu Softwar Center anymore?
[22:08] <reisio> heavyammo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[22:09] <heavyammo> Thank  you resure
[22:09] <heavyammo> reisio
[22:09] <heavyammo> *
[22:10] <Mitchell92> Hi... Reading on the ubuntu wiki about putting Ubuntu on the Nexus 7... This worhtwhile?
[22:10] <aaa801> Last time i checked, no
[22:11] <reisio> it is if you get access to apps you want to use that you didn't have access to
[22:11] <reisio> in general I'd say no
[22:11] <wjtaylor> After attempting to hibernate, I cannot boot without using a previous kernel. Can anyone assist?
[22:12] <KomiaPoika> how do i edit applets form
[22:12] <KomiaPoika> how do i edit applets from the top taskbar with gnome classic wm?
[22:13] <tcossey> exit
[22:14] <heavyammo> How does Ubuntu handle permissions and such, I am paranoid about spying. Should I be worried about for example Skype sending unauthorized info about me to MS, the way I would be worried on Android
[22:15] <vlt> heavyammo: Skype, AFAIK, is a closed source product, so you cannot know.
[22:16] <sam113101> heavyammo: yes, but it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[22:16] <heavyammo> How do I uninstall Skype then
[22:16] <sam113101> how did you install it?
[22:16] <heavyammo> I just installed it and just started it put it's still not in the foreground
[22:16] <sam113101> skype is proprietary software and you shouldn't use it
[22:16] <heavyammo> following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[22:17] <grep0r> heavyammo,  there are some unexcepted connections on skype it is tried to be reversed
[22:17] <sam113101> heavyammo: sudo apt-get autoremove skype
[22:18] <heavyammo> It didn't even start. Another good reason why it's not available in Ubuntu Software center
[22:18] <heavyammo> Thanks a lot!
[22:19] <grep0r> there are other opensource that do same work with skype but problem is if your friends have skype they have to change and skype used a lot
[22:19] <MissValeska> Please help omg
[22:19] <MissValeska> I can't even watch a video because I don't have graphics drivers
[22:20] <MissValeska> heeelpppp ugh
[22:20] <sam113101> there is mumble, tox, etc., the problem is: no one uses them
[22:20] <heavyammo> grep0r, of course noone is gonna swtich because of me :D
[22:20] <sam113101> so you'll be alone unless you get your friends to join you
[22:21] <_space_> heavyammo ive been using the videochat feature of gmail recently...works good
[22:21] <Semajnad> If I have got this, how can I make another group that's chrooted in a different location? http://pastie.org/8478566 Whenever I do it at the moment, it completely stops access to SSH (to any user including root)
[22:22] <Ben64> Semajnad: you really shouldn't have root ssh enabled
[22:22] <wolfybox> does anyone have an answer to my question: http://askubuntu.com/q/375668/203862 ? i really need wifi
[22:22] <Semajnad> Ben64 I know, but this server isn't one that runs anything important.
[22:23] <Semajnad> Do you know how I can do what I wanted to do?
[22:24] <Ben64> Semajnad: i don't really use chroot
[22:24] <Semajnad> Ben64: Thanks anyway :)
[22:25] <_space_> still no love on the windows 7/13.10 networking issue...can anyone help
[22:26] <asshat> Semajnad: have you looked at this? http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/chroot-users-with-openssh-an-easier-way-to-confine-users-to-their-home-directories/
[22:26] <Semajnad> asshat: That's basically what I've got, but when I add a second chroot group it stops anyone logging in?
[22:28] <quibble42> hi
[22:28] <MissValeska> Help omgggggg, Additional drivers is totally empty
[22:28] <Semajnad> asshat: Any ideas?
[22:28] <quibble42> Ok so i'm trying to download splashtop personal for linux and it wants me to download these things "libavcodec-extra-53 libavformat-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51 libopenjpeg2 libswscale-extra-2 python-webkit" are these things trustworthy
[22:28] <wilee-nilee> MissValeska, Have you notated the graphic card or hardware you have as of yet?
[22:28] <heavyammo> btw. if anyone needs to keep in touch with Skype contacts but don't want to install Skype or have unecessary VM's open - http://plus.im/ is where it's at. It's pretty good.
[22:29] <asshat> Semajnad: not yet anyway
[22:29] <MissValeska> Yes, It is a Radeon HD 7770
[22:29] <MissValeska> And it worked before I restarted
[22:29] <MissValeska> I had three options before I restarted
[22:29] <quibble42> P.S. can someone adress my q
[22:29] <MissValeska> I tried installing the offical amd drivers, And that messed everything up
[22:29] <MissValeska> ughhhh
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> MissValeska, please use nicks if you can, what ubuntu release?
[22:30] <MissValeska> 13.10 or saucy
[22:30] <asshat> quibble42: you're good. go ahead and install them
[22:30] <quibble42> (y)
[22:31] <quibble42> ty
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> MissValeska, Ah I believe the xswat ppa which might help is only up to 13.04. Here is if you have not had a look askubuntu links. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Radeon+HD+7770
[22:32] <FourFire> Hello
[22:32] <Kamuela> wilee-nilee, thank you so much. that's what i've been looking for all day
[22:32] <MissValeska> The xswat ppa does not list a limit on the version of ubuntu
[22:32] <MissValeska> But, There is another problem
[22:33] <MissValeska> Every single third party source fails with a 404 error
[22:33] <wolfybox> does anyone have a wifif fix for marvell 88W8797? all fixes i found do not work at all!! it sees my wifi card but doesn't want to use it
[22:33] <FourFire> is there a seen bot command in this channel_
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> MissValeska, xswat has a support from and up to listing
[22:33] <asshat> wolfybox: have you tried Ndiswrapper?
[22:34] <MissValeska> Okay, but the thing is, Every single third party ppa I have throws a 404 error
[22:34] <wolfybox> asshat: yes
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> MissValeska, check if the 3rd parties are supporting 13.10, if not that us your 404.
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> most likely
[22:34] <asshat> wolfybox: what happened? just no luck at all or would it not install?
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> is*
[22:35] <MissValeska> But, ALL of them, Even xswat is doing this
[22:35] <wolfybox> asshat: i have it installed but it doesn't like my adapter, no luck at all
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> MissValeska, xswat does not support 13.10 its right on their page as far as support from and to.
[22:35] <MissValeska> oh
[22:35] <MissValeska> ughhh!!
[22:36] <FourFire> hey gvo, I\m back
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> MissValeska, check all of them go to thier page and look.
[22:36] <MissValeska> *sigh* Is there any way I can just fix my graphics drivers?
[22:36] <asshat> wolfybox: so you installed it and gave it the files it needs from the windows driver?
[22:37] <wolfybox> asshat: yes
[22:37] <blocky> what does it mean if my 13.10 install just stays at the gnome footprint logo for 20 minutes
[22:37] <Semajnad> If I have got this, how can I make another group that's chrooted in a different location? http://pastie.org/8478566 Whenever I do it at the moment, it completely stops access to SSH (to any user including root)
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> MissValeska, You want a quick fix, we all do, however you are sort of flailing about without understanding what your doing and have done, I'm not sure the answer to that set of varibles.
[22:38] <asshat> wolfybox: is this on a surface pro?
[22:38] <wolfybox> asshat: yes
[22:38] <FourFire> gvo I\ll be back tomorrow
[22:38] <MissValeska> okay
[22:38] <MissValeska> omg wtf, Even one of the ppa.launchpad.net standard saucy ppas failed with a 404 error
[22:38] <asshat> wolfybox: there is a fix out but it would require you to recompile the kernel
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> MissValeska, which one?
[22:39] <asshat> wolfybox: it's a known bug, sorry
[22:39] <asshat> wolfybox: good news is that they already know how and this should be upcoming kernel releases
[22:39] <asshat> wolfybox: here's a link to a support thread that may help you
[22:40] <asshat> wolfybox: forgot the link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1165938
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> MissValeska, Can you run sudo apt-get update and pastebin all the info
[22:42] <MissValeska> I sent you the issues in private chat
[22:42] <joossee> guys and possibly one girl, I am having a problem geeting a virtual machine installed iwth a "Permission Deeenied" to the file?
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> MissValeska, I have pm off
[22:42] <joossee> to the image file
[22:42] <^Mike> How do I make pulseaudio find a newly-attached audio output device?
[22:42] <joossee> the file itself is about 85GB so its doing something...?
[22:43] <joossee> command I ran is:
[22:43] <joossee> sudo virt-install -n taylor -r 4096 \
[22:43] <joossee> --disk path=/home/administrator/Images/win2003.img,bus=virtio,size=80 -c \
[22:43] <joossee> /home/administrator/Images/winsrv200364R2-1.iso --accelerate --network network=default,model=virtio \
[22:43] <joossee> --connect=qemu:///system -v
[22:43] <FloodBot1> joossee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:43] <joossee> ohh sorry
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> MissValeska, PM usually have to much info and I don;t like being spammed which is the other things that happens often, I do all my work in the channel.
[22:44] <MissValeska> http://pastebin.com/DvhLg6y4
[22:44] <MissValeska> okay, I understand
[22:44] <winmutt> anyone got a good list of rbls these days?
[22:44] <rypervenche> My eyes! The PPAs!
[22:44] <MissValeska> I'll restart while you read that, alright?
[22:46] <MissValeska> I'll be back in a few minutes, As my computer restarts
[22:46] <MissValeska> Thank you for your help so far, I hope you can continue to help me when I return
[22:48]  * joossee looks up at all the VM masters and gulps.
[22:49] <joossee> I am trying to run "sudo virt-install -n taylor -r 4096 --disk path=/home/administrator/Images/win2003.img,bus=virtio,size=80 -c /home/administrator/Images/winsrv200364R2-1.iso --accelerate --network network=default,model=virtio --connect=qemu:///system -v" and I get the following permissions error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6413130/ can anyone help me out?
[22:50] <rypervenche> joossee: What are the permissions in the img file and what user is qemu being run as?
[22:50] <joossee> owner root rypervenche
[22:51] <joossee> do I need to sudo virt-install? my user, administrator. is part of libvert group? I am following along the instructions in the server guide
[22:51] <joossee> what is qemu?
[22:52] <rypervenche> joossee: What user and group is qemu running as? Might be in /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf or something like that.
[22:54] <rypervenche> joossee: It is the software that you are using to control your VMs.
[22:54] <joossee> rypervenche, everything is commented out in qemu.conf
[22:55] <KomiaPoika> how can i edit /etc/motd without ubuntu rewriting it?
[22:55] <rypervenche> joossee: I need to go home, but if no one has helped you by the time I get back, I'll see what I can do.
[22:56] <mapps> how can i find the process of something and kill it
[22:56] <mapps> its not listed in ps x so im stuck
[22:56] <KomiaPoika> ps aux
[22:56] <joossee> rypervenche, ty! i will investigate users and groups on my ssytem
[22:56] <mapps> aha thanks i will try
[22:56] <mapps> aha perfect
[22:57] <mapps> thanks KomiaPoika  :D
[22:57] <mapps> needed to kill squid so i can restart it :)
[22:58] <judgen> How do i install atheros gbit ethernet nic drivers on 12.04? i have allready updated to kernel 3.11
[22:59] <stimoceiver> Can someone point me to a current guide to installing Radeon proprietary drivers on the 13.10 release? I've tried a bunch I found via google and none of them actually work and/or functionality seems to be missing or broken in 13.10 such as the "proprietary driver" manager, jockey.
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> stimoceiver, I would look in askubuntu using the search on your specific radeon
[23:01] <wheatthin> !ati | stimoceiver
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> wheatthin, radeon are not nvidia
[23:02] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, as you can see I said ati.. which radeon is.
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> ah I see that link is a general driver, my mistake
[23:03] <sailos> hi
[23:04] <missvaleska> I'm back
[23:04] <missvaleska> ANd I still have the same problem
[23:05] <stimoceiver> wheatthin, that link refers me directly to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI . Option "2. Installation via the Ubuntu repositories" is broken as stated, at least on my combination of hardware.
[23:05] <wheatthin> stimoceiver, it should not be broken, unless it's hardware related.
[23:05] <stimoceiver> It says "the easiest way to install binary drivers is to use the built in Hardware Drivers manager in ubuntu." However there is no further information about what exactly this is.
[23:06] <atticus_> I have a question - cat /proc/cpuinfo shows my 8 processors running in 36bit instead of 64. I am running an i7 and KNOW it's 64bit. I installed 64bit kubuntu. Can you recommend any route to go to figure out why it's only running in "36-bit?"
[23:06] <pulsar78> hi, how do i tell my cpu is overheating ?
[23:06] <stimoceiver> wheatthin: I assume it referrs to the application called Jockey. If so the doc should mention as such.
[23:06] <wheatthin> stimoceiver, sudo apt-get install fglx-current    I believe
[23:06] <stimoceiver> wheatthin: However, on my system jockey gives zero options for installing anything. All panes of Jockey are completely empty.
[23:06] <chamunks> is there a good webgui for duplicity for headless servers running ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> missvaleska, You have a messed up sources.list for example just one ppa here,  Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/amuzen/ppa/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found is this  https://launchpad.net/~amuzen/+archive/ppa look at the choose your ubuntu version 13.10 is not listed. You need to go to each web page on the ppa's that are 404ing and check this.
[23:07] <wheatthin> stimoceiver, to find the driver,   sudo apt-cache search fglrx
[23:07] <stimoceiver> wheatthin: putatively, apt-get install fglrx-current seems to work in that the driver appears to be installed. However ubuntu doesnt use the aforesaid driver.
[23:07] <missvaleska> okay
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> missvaleska, Is this a upgraded ubuntu release?
[23:07] <missvaleska> Yes
[23:07] <wheatthin> no it doesn't, unless you've had added a different driver in xorg.conf
[23:08] <missvaleska> I understand some of the third party sources are bad, But the offical ones should work regardless
[23:08] <missvaleska> And I really just w3ant my graphics stuff fixed
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> missvaleska, You have ppa's that were supported from your last one but not in 13.10, this is something you have to always check on a upgrade.
[23:08] <joossee> missvaleska, is it ati/amd?
[23:08] <missvaleska> yes
[23:08] <missvaleska> Radeon HD 7770
[23:08] <stimoceiver> wheatthin: So the instructions would seem to be misleading, in that even after the driver is installed via the apt-get method, I am assuming one will still need to use at least some of the steps of "2.1 Installing via the command line." I say I'm assuming it because, though I'm no stranger to command line, I was hoping for a moire elegant GUI based solution.
[23:09] <joossee> ya some of the newest repos .. xorg/ender i think??... while give you bad drivers. i had to purge the repo and then uninstall and reinstall fglrx
[23:09] <bekks> joossee: xorg-edgers
[23:09] <stimoceiver> wheatthin: Another tool that would be useful for me would be an XRandR GUI, if I had that I might not need the Radeon prop drivers
[23:10] <joossee> yes thats it bekks
[23:10] <wheatthin> stimoceiver, there is actually.
[23:10] <joossee> missvaleska, but my card is very old
[23:10] <wheatthin> stimoceiver, I believe it's lxrandr
[23:10] <missvaleska> okay?
[23:10] <missvaleska> I'm not talking about your card
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> missvaleska, You have so many bad lines in the sources.list and who knows what has been installed, all I can say this is a huge mess, and your reasoning is faulty in the sense of having all these errors that the statement " I understand some of the third party sources are bad, But the offical ones should work regardless" just is not valid.
[23:11] <joossee> ok well long story short: purge your repos and go back to defaults then reinstall fglrx. Just sayin
[23:11] <stimoceiver> wheatthin: I'll try that, thanks, I tried the so-called kde xrandr tray app (forget the name, machine is in the other room). It appeared to do absolutely nothing, especicially it did not appear to load in my system tray (although due to overscan its hard to be 100% sure)
[23:12] <blocky> anybody know what could be causing D-Bus to suddenly stop working? I can't load X and I can't connect to wifi
[23:12] <TheytookRJobs> Question, if I am trying to get just the amount of memory being used... I know I can cat /proc/memoinfo | grep MemFree but this provides an output with two columns. How would I go about just getting the number?
[23:12] <joossee> blocky, did you kill "rtkit"?
[23:12] <stimoceiver> wheatthin: anyway, thanks for your help. im off to try some of these alternatives, hopefully without too much hair pulling (i should probably bite the bullet and go grab a different monitor at least for the setup phase, lol...)
[23:13] <blocky> TheytookRJobs: cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemFree | awk '{print $2}
[23:13] <blocky> oops need a second quote
[23:13] <blocky> joossee: not on purpose, should i?
[23:13] <phong_> hi guys, why ubuntu randomly give error windows?
[23:13] <TheytookRJobs> ah, awk. Thanks I will study that command. Thank you so much blocky!
[23:13] <joossee> blocky, nope
[23:13] <phong_> i have ubuntu 13.10 using in vmwar
[23:13] <blocky> joossee: rtkit does not seem to be running
[23:13] <missvaleska> look dude, It is throwing a weird depency error I showed you before. My failed ppas are just random video games and stuff, I wish you'd stop berating me
[23:14] <phong_> does ubuntu 13.10 always give error randomly?
[23:14] <xangua> !error | phong_
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> phong_, the errors have to be specific here for help.
[23:14] <joossee> ya its a user ... some ppl get paranoid
[23:14] <joossee> it controls or monitors the bus i think?
[23:14] <phong_> wilee-nilee, maybe i should downgrade to 13.04?
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> phong_, I would not know.
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> phong_, You might mahe a 13.04 vm and see if that suits you.
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> make*
[23:15] <phong_> wilee-nilee, already upgrade to 13.10
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> phong_, Downgrades are not possible is all I can say.
[23:16]  * joossee sets mode #ubuntu +q *!*missvaleska*
[23:16] <ai9371> j# pyQt
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> ai9371, /j #pyQt
[23:17] <SamuraiDio> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.10 on a Lenovo Ultrabook. but it says that an error ocurred: "the installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk: [Errno 5] input/output error"
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> SamuraiDio, Have you checked the sum of the iso?
[23:18] <SamuraiDio> no
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> SamuraiDio, I would check it and the HD with the smart tool on the live cd/usb
[23:20] <missvaleska> Okay, I fixed it myself by downloiading the dependencies and packages from launchpad, Thank you for helping, But please, Next time, Don't insult the person you're trying to help.
[23:20] <ahoneybun> anyone have samba exp?
[23:20] <SamuraiDio> wilee-nilee, i'm running from usb.
[23:21] <Private_User> Hi all, I am having problems shuting down my PC in Lubuntu, I posted this in the Lubuntu channel but I guess there is nobody at there machines to answer.
[23:21] <bekks> !anyone | ahoneybun
[23:21] <Private_User> When I try to shudown it reboots the machine
[23:21] <SamuraiDio> wilee-nilee, just whore the iso to an usb disk with dd
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> missvaleska, What you take as berating is a dope slap to follow standard methods and recognize what you have to do. You have spread your emotional responses all over the channel and not listened to reason.
[23:21] <Private_User> I tried boith the GUI and command line
[23:21] <SamuraiDio> wilee-nilee, how do i check it?
[23:21] <Private_User> still only reboots
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | SamuraiDio
[23:22] <ahoneybun> ok I am getting access denied on my windows 8.1 machine while trying to get to my raspberry pi server
[23:22] <joossee> SamuraiDio, thats not what dd is for?
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> SamuraiDio, On the live media is disks, top right corner is a gear for doing the smart look at the HD.
[23:23] <Private_User> I have even tried this solution http://netgator.blogspot.com/2012/07/ubuntu-lubuntu-1204-shutdown-doesnt.html
[23:23] <reisio> ahoneybun: via what protocol
[23:23] <ahoneybun> samba
[23:24] <bingo_> hello. i have a website page I want to save to my computer because i think it will shutdown. how i can do this?
[23:24] <bingo_> is news articles
[23:25] <reisio> bingo_: CTRL+s
[23:25] <bingo_> where it will save to?
[23:25] <reisio> bingo_: wherever you say
[23:25] <bingo_> ty!
[23:25] <bingo_> how i get more screensavers for xscreensaver?
[23:26] <reisio> apt-cache search screensaver
[23:26] <ahoneybun> reisio: any ideas why I can't get access?
[23:26] <bingo_> ty
[23:26] <reisio> ahoneybun: what happens when you try to
[23:26] <bingo_> thn i choose one and sudo apt-get install?
[23:26] <ahoneybun> reisio: windows tells me access is denied
[23:27] <reisio> bingo_: yup
[23:28] <ahoneybun> I set up a user named backups and smbpasswd for the user
[23:28] <Waka_Flocka> anyone know about hal issues in ubuntu 12.04?
[23:28] <SamuraiDio> wilee-nilee, I'll download the iso and try again, from the beggining
[23:28] <ahoneybun> and set valid users = backups
[23:31] <lf94> Hey, I need help with MonoDevelop 2.8.6. Apparently there is a bug that causes this: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
[23:31] <lf94>   at System.Web.Util.HttpEncoder.GetCustomEncoderFromConfig () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 , but the latest version has this fixed. How do you get  Ubuntu package maintainers to push fixed versions to say, 12.04?
[23:31] <lf94> Don't fail me now Ubuntu support
[23:32] <rypervenche> joossee: Any luck?
[23:33] <joossee> rypervenche, no i tried deleting the file on disk and restarting again but identical error.
[23:33] <rypervenche> joossee: Let's go into a PM.
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> SamuraiDio, Was the iso bad with a sum check?
[23:38] <SamuraiDio> wilee-nilee, I don't have the iso anymore, just flashed on usb drive
[23:39] <djzn> how do you call this video issue, when 15% of left side video, is on the right
[23:39] <reisio> djzn: 'broke'
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> SamuraiDio, Ah, is this a unetbootin downloading schema?
[23:41] <djzn> reision: video broke?
[23:41] <SamuraiDio> wilee-nilee, sorry, what you mean?
[23:41] <djzn> reisio: video broke?
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> SamuraiDio, unetbootin has a download and load the usb method, it kis faulty for some is all.
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> is*
[23:43] <SamuraiDio> wilee-nilee, no. I just download the iso from ubuntu website, and wrote it to an usb drive with dd
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> SamuraiDio, Ah dd I would use a regular loader myself is all, dd apparently works but I never use it myself.
[23:45] <SamuraiDio> wilee-nilee, it boots, just fails on install... it could be a problem with my usb drive
[23:46] <SamuraiDio> i'll try again with donloaded iso, checking sums, and, if it fails, i'll try with another usb drive
[23:46] <ianmac1> Hmm.. the window spread feature is pretty nice
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> SamuraiDio, could be, sounds like your up on general possibilities, so carry on. ;)
[23:48] <SamuraiDio> wilee-nilee, can't it be uefi, huh!?
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> SamuraiDio,  This a uefi computer?
[23:48] <SamuraiDio> yes
[23:48] <SamuraiDio> wilee-nilee, an ultrabook, with hdd 500gb + ssd 32gb
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> SamuraiDio, Not sure to be honest, I have not had the pleasure/pain of messing with one.
[23:49] <lf94> Well, to whomever is following me: The problem can be resolved if you start a new solution and copy+paste your code back in.
[23:50] <SamuraiDio> wilee-nilee, in last chance I can try disabling it. but searching web, the suggestions was to disabled only for dual boot with legacy systems, like windows 7 or older
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> SamuraiDio, Here is a link I give the UEFI people besides the wiki. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[23:53] <DarkPlayer> hi, i try to debootstrap Ubuntu trusty in a user namespace where i am root, but i have the problem that the package makedev, which is installed in the second stage, tries to create devices which fails (since the root user inside the namespace is not allowed to create devices).
[23:53] <DarkPlayer> The package is installed although i pass --exclude=sysvinit,initscripts,makedev to debootstrap, does anyone have an idea how to prevent this package from installing? I do not need this package since i create all necessary devices between the first and second stage manually.
[23:57] <megadeath> some good client p2p in linux
[23:58] <pulsar78> rtorrent
[23:58] <reisio> megadeath: for torrents?
[23:58] <Vivekananda> hello everyone. for some reason in ubuntu12.04 alt tab does not show the 'terminator' console but cycles through all the others. I can however get to it using the touchpad right bottom corner as a windows switcher which shows all current windows
[23:59] <megadeath> like frostwire too