| * OvenWerks has a monitor again... with three colours even. | 06:19 | |
| zequence | OvenWerks: What were you using before? | 08:35 |
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| smartboyhw | zequence: It looks like my reverting fix was pushed in... | 10:42 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: Yes, but was it needed anymore | 10:48 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: Did you have a look at the changes yet, and what they do for us? | 10:48 |
| smartboyhw | zequence: I don't know. Haven't catched up for a long time | 10:50 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: I will write this down, and inform others later, but just in case we have this sort of thing happening again: first talk with the author (in this case OvenWerks), then make the change in our branch - not Ubuntu's. Then ask for a merge | 11:02 |
| smartboyhw | zequence: Sure | 11:03 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: It's different when the upstream is Debian, or KDE, or something else. In this case, we are upstream | 11:03 |
| zequence | So, the change needs to go in our source first | 11:03 |
| smartboyhw | Yep | 11:05 |
| Imote | Hi | 20:41 |
| Imote | Is there anyone here ? | 20:43 |
| zequence | Imote: Hi. What's up? | 20:43 |
| Imote | Zequence: nothing particular, i'm actually looking how Ubuntu Studio team work | 20:46 |
| zequence | Imote: Stick around if you want. Possibly interested in participating? | 20:47 |
| Imote | Imote: Maybe, I'm french ; I eventually participate for write the documentation (in french of course) | 20:49 |
| Imote | Zequence: Maybe, I'm french ; I'm maybe interisting for participate for write the documentation (in french of course) | 20:50 |
| zequence | Imote: Our art lead is French Belgian. The guy who has been a part of the team the longes, ttoine, is from France. Also, another guy from Belgium does some testing at times | 20:51 |
| zequence | Documentation is always a problem. You are free to participate in writing that | 20:51 |
| zequence | We don't have a French version of our site. I guess we could ask to have that. Someone will need to maintain it | 20:52 |
| zequence | As for the wikis, I guess they are English only | 20:53 |
| zequence | I know there are local sites for Ubuntu in all countries | 20:53 |
| zequence | Some distros probably have their own local sites, like Kubuntu | 20:53 |
| Imote | You know, the french documentation of Ubuntu and other ubuntu distros are great and full, not in english ? | 20:54 |
| Imote | Certainly yes | 20:54 |
| zequence | I'm sure the English docs for other distros are extensive | 20:55 |
| zequence | But not for Ubuntu Studio | 20:55 |
| zequence | If docs are written in any language, they should be translated though | 20:55 |
| zequence | No reason to do the same work twice | 20:55 |
| Imote | Yes, it's true | 20:55 |
| zequence | Even if translating is of course a bit of work in itself | 20:55 |
| zequence | I don't care in which language it is written, as long as someone is willing to do it | 20:56 |
| Imote | yes but more easy compared to write entirely the text | 20:56 |
| Imote | So i'm actually looking for get involved ; I don't know how this big engine work | 20:57 |
| zequence | Yes, if there is already a structure and content, all one needs to is worry about formulations | 20:57 |
| zequence | Debian/Ubuntu/Ubuntu Studio is a big engine, but just Ubuntu Studio is quite small | 20:58 |
| zequence | If you are serious about documentation, you will find that you can work pretty freely | 20:58 |
| Imote | Ok. If I continue, how can I do ? I'm just suscribing to the ubuntu studio devel, and after ? Any forum to present me or other thing ? | 21:01 |
| zequence | Imote: No hurry. We actually don't have any documentation at all for users right now, so you would be working from scratch | 21:03 |
| zequence | Imote: We don't need so much docs for desktop usage. Only for our workflows, audio, video, graphics, etc | 21:03 |
| zequence | Imote: Also, for installing, a bit about how Ubuntu Studio differs from other Ubuntu distros | 21:03 |
| zequence | Imote: Here's a bit of structure for inspiration https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UserGuide | 21:04 |
| zequence | Imote: Once you feel - "Ok, I would like to start working on this" - let me know, and we can organize things a bit | 21:04 |
| zequence | It's good to get some feedback while working, and we should document at least vaguely what is being done, and who is doing it | 21:05 |
| zequence | That's about it | 21:05 |
| zequence | If it takes you 1 month, or 3 years is up to you | 21:05 |
| Imote | Yes I see. I think about it and I give a review shortly. I not want start for stop 2 days after and lost your time | 21:09 |
| knome | zequence, remind me what you're using for docs again? docbook? | 21:10 |
| knome | zequence, we've just been poking at docs translations, you might want to take advantage of us having to go through that | 21:11 |
| zequence | knome: We don't use anything at all currently | 21:12 |
| zequence | knome: Are you using docbook? | 21:12 |
| knome | yep | 21:12 |
| knome | then we convert it to .html to be used in the image | 21:13 |
| zequence | Aha | 21:13 |
| knome | but i suppose things like yelp or so could be used to read docbook directly | 21:13 |
| knome | i have no idea. | 21:13 |
| zequence | Imote: knome is the project lead for Xubuntu. As you see, we should probably poke them for technical advice | 21:14 |
| knome | Imote, hallo! | 21:15 |
| zequence | Imote: It's impossible for you to waste anyones time here. Take the time you need. It may sometimes take a couple of years to get started, as was the case with me | 21:15 |
| zequence | ;) | 21:15 |
| Imote | Knome: hello ;) ; Zequence: Great ! | 21:16 |
| knome | starting takes time, but stopping takes more time | 21:17 |
| zequence | That it does. | 21:17 |
| Imote | Yes so true ! How many persons work actively on Ubuntu studio ? | 21:19 |
| Imote | If I dont lost a link, I find only one page of documentation for Ubuntu Studio in french, in ubuntu doc : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/ubuntu_studio | 21:27 |
| Imote | The Ubuntu docs is very useful and full, so what is needed to be write for the Ubuntu Studio's doc ? | 21:28 |
| zequence | Imote: I had never seen that page before | 21:28 |
| zequence | I think often people write their docs independently. | 21:29 |
| Imote | And Xubuntu page here : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/xubuntu | 21:29 |
| zequence | Imote: This is our wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/ | 21:29 |
| Imote | This links are twice when we Write ubuntu studio or Xubuntu in google | 21:29 |
| zequence | Here's a page about our team structure https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TeamStructure | 21:30 |
| Imote | (In france country of course) | 21:30 |
| Imote | Yes, i see the team structure | 21:30 |
| zequence | Currently, I'm the only guy in the docs team, all though there have been other people interested in contributing, such as cub, who like me lives in Sweden | 21:30 |
| zequence | Imote: This our planning, in the form of blueprints https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Blueprints | 21:31 |
| zequence | There's one topic for Documentation | 21:31 |
| knome | i just updated my time commitment for website :) | 21:31 |
| knome | zequence, are you not subscribed to UbuntuStudio/* wiki pages? | 21:32 |
| zequence | knome: I'm not that organized :P | 21:32 |
| zequence | Usually, not many but me edit them anyway | 21:32 |
| zequence | I guess I should | 21:32 |
| knome | zequence, you know how to do it? | 21:32 |
| knome | i mean, non-manually, subscribing to all of them... | 21:33 |
| zequence | knome: Nope | 21:33 |
| knome | zequence, go to the wiki. click on your username on the navigation. then click notification. in the "subscribed..." textarea, add a line saying "UbuntuStudio/.*" (without the quotes) and click save | 21:34 |
| Imote | I can't acces to roadmap of Trusty, it's normal ? | 21:34 |
| knome | you're done. | 21:34 |
| Imote | Or i've no permission to see it so | 21:36 |
| knome | Imote, which page? | 21:36 |
| Imote | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-saucy-flavor-ubuntustudio | 21:36 |
| Imote | I'm not legged in I do it | 21:36 |
| Imote | *logged | 21:36 |
| zequence | Imote: That links is wrong. Let me change it | 21:36 |
| zequence | Imote: In the "Blueprints overview", the main topic is the roadmap for Trusty | 21:37 |
| zequence | Ok, link working now | 21:38 |
| Imote | Zequence: Okay :) | 21:38 |
| zequence | knome: Thanks | 21:39 |
| knome | np | 21:39 |
| Imote | I go now, maybe i back tomorrow :) I don't know what is your hour but for me it's time to sleep ; good night to all :) | 22:02 |
| zequence | Imote: Good night. Hope to see you around :) | 22:02 |
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