[06:19] * OvenWerks has a monitor again... with three colours even. [08:35] OvenWerks: What were you using before? [10:42] zequence: It looks like my reverting fix was pushed in... [10:48] smartboyhw: Yes, but was it needed anymore [10:48] OvenWerks: Did you have a look at the changes yet, and what they do for us? [10:50] zequence: I don't know. Haven't catched up for a long time [11:02] smartboyhw: I will write this down, and inform others later, but just in case we have this sort of thing happening again: first talk with the author (in this case OvenWerks), then make the change in our branch - not Ubuntu's. Then ask for a merge [11:03] zequence: Sure [11:03] smartboyhw: It's different when the upstream is Debian, or KDE, or something else. In this case, we are upstream [11:03] So, the change needs to go in our source first [11:05] Yep [20:41] Hi [20:43] Is there anyone here ? [20:43] Imote: Hi. What's up? [20:46] Zequence: nothing particular, i'm actually looking how Ubuntu Studio team work [20:47] Imote: Stick around if you want. Possibly interested in participating? [20:49] Imote: Maybe, I'm french ; I eventually participate for write the documentation (in french of course) [20:50] Zequence: Maybe, I'm french ; I'm maybe interisting for participate for write the documentation (in french of course) [20:51] Imote: Our art lead is French Belgian. The guy who has been a part of the team the longes, ttoine, is from France. Also, another guy from Belgium does some testing at times [20:51] Documentation is always a problem. You are free to participate in writing that [20:52] We don't have a French version of our site. I guess we could ask to have that. Someone will need to maintain it [20:53] As for the wikis, I guess they are English only [20:53] I know there are local sites for Ubuntu in all countries [20:53] Some distros probably have their own local sites, like Kubuntu [20:54] You know, the french documentation of Ubuntu and other ubuntu distros are great and full, not in english ? [20:54] Certainly yes [20:55] I'm sure the English docs for other distros are extensive [20:55] But not for Ubuntu Studio [20:55] If docs are written in any language, they should be translated though [20:55] No reason to do the same work twice [20:55] Yes, it's true [20:55] Even if translating is of course a bit of work in itself [20:56] I don't care in which language it is written, as long as someone is willing to do it [20:56] yes but more easy compared to write entirely the text [20:57] So i'm actually looking for get involved ; I don't know how this big engine work [20:57] Yes, if there is already a structure and content, all one needs to is worry about formulations [20:58] Debian/Ubuntu/Ubuntu Studio is a big engine, but just Ubuntu Studio is quite small [20:58] If you are serious about documentation, you will find that you can work pretty freely [21:01] Ok. If I continue, how can I do ? I'm just suscribing to the ubuntu studio devel, and after ? Any forum to present me or other thing ? [21:03] Imote: No hurry. We actually don't have any documentation at all for users right now, so you would be working from scratch [21:03] Imote: We don't need so much docs for desktop usage. Only for our workflows, audio, video, graphics, etc [21:03] Imote: Also, for installing, a bit about how Ubuntu Studio differs from other Ubuntu distros [21:04] Imote: Here's a bit of structure for inspiration https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UserGuide [21:04] Imote: Once you feel - "Ok, I would like to start working on this" - let me know, and we can organize things a bit [21:05] It's good to get some feedback while working, and we should document at least vaguely what is being done, and who is doing it [21:05] That's about it [21:05] If it takes you 1 month, or 3 years is up to you [21:09] Yes I see. I think about it and I give a review shortly. I not want start for stop 2 days after and lost your time [21:10] zequence, remind me what you're using for docs again? docbook? [21:11] zequence, we've just been poking at docs translations, you might want to take advantage of us having to go through that [21:12] knome: We don't use anything at all currently [21:12] knome: Are you using docbook? [21:12] yep [21:13] then we convert it to .html to be used in the image [21:13] Aha [21:13] but i suppose things like yelp or so could be used to read docbook directly [21:13] i have no idea. [21:14] Imote: knome is the project lead for Xubuntu. As you see, we should probably poke them for technical advice [21:15] Imote, hallo! [21:15] Imote: It's impossible for you to waste anyones time here. Take the time you need. It may sometimes take a couple of years to get started, as was the case with me [21:15] ;) [21:16] Knome: hello ;) ; Zequence: Great ! [21:17] starting takes time, but stopping takes more time [21:17] That it does. [21:19] Yes so true ! How many persons work actively on Ubuntu studio ? [21:27] If I dont lost a link, I find only one page of documentation for Ubuntu Studio in french, in ubuntu doc : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/ubuntu_studio [21:28] The Ubuntu docs is very useful and full, so what is needed to be write for the Ubuntu Studio's doc ? [21:28] Imote: I had never seen that page before [21:29] I think often people write their docs independently. [21:29] And Xubuntu page here : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/xubuntu [21:29] Imote: This is our wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/ [21:29] This links are twice when we Write ubuntu studio or Xubuntu in google [21:30] Here's a page about our team structure https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TeamStructure [21:30] (In france country of course) [21:30] Yes, i see the team structure [21:30] Currently, I'm the only guy in the docs team, all though there have been other people interested in contributing, such as cub, who like me lives in Sweden [21:31] Imote: This our planning, in the form of blueprints https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Blueprints [21:31] There's one topic for Documentation [21:31] i just updated my time commitment for website :) [21:32] zequence, are you not subscribed to UbuntuStudio/* wiki pages? [21:32] knome: I'm not that organized :P [21:32] Usually, not many but me edit them anyway [21:32] I guess I should [21:32] zequence, you know how to do it? [21:33] i mean, non-manually, subscribing to all of them... [21:33] knome: Nope [21:34] zequence, go to the wiki. click on your username on the navigation. then click notification. in the "subscribed..." textarea, add a line saying "UbuntuStudio/.*" (without the quotes) and click save [21:34] I can't acces to roadmap of Trusty, it's normal ? [21:34] you're done. [21:36] Or i've no permission to see it so [21:36] Imote, which page? [21:36] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-saucy-flavor-ubuntustudio [21:36] I'm not legged in I do it [21:36] *logged [21:36] Imote: That links is wrong. Let me change it [21:37] Imote: In the "Blueprints overview", the main topic is the roadmap for Trusty [21:38] Ok, link working now [21:38] Zequence: Okay :) [21:39] knome: Thanks [21:39] np [22:02] I go now, maybe i back tomorrow :) I don't know what is your hour but for me it's time to sleep ; good night to all :) [22:02] Imote: Good night. Hope to see you around :)