[00:05] Hi - I installed unity in 13.10 ubuntu studio - how can I uninstall it [00:08] apt-get remove some-words [00:09] most likely: [00:09] apt-get remove unity [00:24] dcosnet: Might be a bit harder than that. Unity depends on a lot of other packages, which won't be removed if uninstalling unity [00:24] ah [00:31] anyone have good thmes? [00:46] how to install fluxbox in ubuntu studio? [00:46] apt-get update && apt-get install fluxbox [00:46] i install it [00:46] but dunno how to apply it [00:47] at login screen, type your infos FIRST, then click top right to select fluxbox [00:47] login and out. now it should be default [00:47] wait going to try [00:47] k [00:49] its working thanks [00:49] no problem. i use fluxbox too [00:49] thank you very much [00:49] its too good to look [00:49] right naaa [00:50] do you know how we add start menu or ubuntu menu in fluxbox or i have to always use left click to start an app [00:51] there is a few apps you could use [00:52] then what should i do to see all apps? [00:54] http://code.google.com/p/wbar/ [00:54] how to load diffrent themes in fluxbox like if i download one? [00:54] themes are in ~/.fluxbox/ [00:54] give wbar a try [00:55] okkk cool [00:55] you really good man [00:55] ya [00:56] i have used alot of stuff [00:56] one thing more in ubuntu i can open terminal with ALT+Crtl+T [00:56] but in ubuntustudio i cant [00:56] how i can use shortcuts? [00:56] fluxbox has its own shortcuts [00:57] edit configs in ~/.fluxbox/ [00:57] can i make my own [00:57] ya [00:57] i do [00:57] how? [00:58] .fluxbox/keys [00:58] edit that file [00:59] okkk [00:59] read the existing shortcuts and test a few to try and learn the commands in the config [00:59] okkk [01:01] cool [01:01] can i craete my own lock screen popup [01:01] in ubuntu studio [01:04] xscreensaver can do this if configured [01:04] cool [01:05] thanks for all help man [01:05] see you later [01:06] its ALT +F1 to open terminal [01:06] keys file is good to start [01:08] i am having an interesting problem. When I open idjc it opens 21 instances of the program in memory. Then when I connect to a streaming server idjc opens at least another 6 instances in memory and eats every available cpu tick so that all my cores hit 100% usage. anyone have any idea how to fix this? i am running ubuntustudio 13.04 on an AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 630 Processor with 6 gig of ram. Anyone have any idea how to fix [01:08] this? [01:15] thats a new one to me [01:15] try opening it manually from a terminal [01:16] such as open xterm, type: idjc & [01:16] then press enter twice [01:16] close terminal [01:16] yep and it's weird I can open idjc and cpu usage is fine as soon as i connect to a streaming server cpu usage hits 100% across the board [01:17] the & tells it you dont want the terminal to remain required [01:20] same thing cpu usage on all 4 cores hits 100% as soon as I connect to a streaming server [01:33] SysAdmin_Raven: what is the terminal output? [01:34] bill__: you can always just leave unity there, and login to another DE from the loging screen [01:43] standby please [01:43] ... . . [01:47] terminal output is here http://pastebin.com/D4Gn8N3E [01:50] SysAdmin_Raven: if it were me (like, back when i used idjc to stream to an icecase server and i needed to troubleshoot) i would try other codes.. and other servers.. and local servers (so as to remove any networking from the equation) [01:50] SysAdmin_Raven: i would maybe try loading as much as i could up on a live CD and test to remove my system config from the equation [01:51] i remember ending up with using darkice to stream from JACK.. [01:51] i have done the live cd on various systems I get the same thing on all systems and my icecast server is local to my network [01:52] SysAdmin_Raven: then, i would see if you can find some activity with the idjc dev/devs.. but i think its a older project that is getting phased out.. [01:52] SysAdmin_Raven: there are many other options to stream.. and i would try them, and see if they work better for you [01:53] with JACK and something stream from JACK, you can do what idjc does anyways [01:54] i've been trying mixxx but it wants to be a pain when I try to link a voice option into (either mic or skype) [01:55] sure [01:55] just dont do that [01:55] "link" the mic with JACK.. connect whatever you want to the jack compatible streamer [01:55] JACK *is* the all-in-one app you would be looking for, in this scneario [01:56] with the pulse dbus that is enabled by default, you can link what you like to skype easily [01:57] well i'm having two problems there when ever i try to link jack or pulse into the settings for mixxx either mixxx locks up my system or i get no sound [01:58] SysAdmin_Raven: what are you using mixx for? [01:58] SysAdmin_Raven: if its to play audio, try using audacious.. or VLC [01:59] like i can set the master on output to jacksource and there is no sound [01:59] using to stream internet radio out trying to get my own station setup [01:59] SysAdmin_Raven: i used BUTT [02:00] http://butt.sourceforge.net/ [02:00] i'll take a look at it [02:00] i would literally get what i wanted playing on one machine running JACK, and pipe that over via an analog cable [02:00] then, i started using darkice out of JACK [02:01] SysAdmin_Raven: darkice is the streaming service.. so i would connect what i wanted out of JACK to darkice to stream [02:01] SysAdmin_Raven: mixxx didnt work [02:01] SysAdmin_Raven: idjc didnt work [02:01] icecast2 has always worked for me, I'll take a look at butt [02:02] SysAdmin_Raven: that was *years* ago.. and i didnt find anything helpful to share.. nor anyone helpful to share the information with.. so i went on to other software, since i really didnt need the functionality they were providing. as you dont either [02:02] SysAdmin_Raven: icecast2 is the server [02:02] SysAdmin_Raven: we are talking about clients [02:02] SysAdmin_Raven: darkice is a JACK client for icecast servers [02:03] SysAdmin_Raven: it allows you to, for example.. take *anything* playing out of jack and connect it.. like you are trying to do with mixxx and idjc.. .but, you dont need those applications.. you just add a darkice source and connect what you like out of JACK [02:03] *or*... using BUTT via the pulse dbus might be nice [02:03] oh okay i'll take a look at darkice also [02:04] when we found mumble, we stopped using it to stream the podcast [02:09] well what i'm wanting to do is stream mp3's, pre-recorded shows live skype calls or calls out of my browser on gvoice [02:10] back in 12.10 i was able to do that with jack, idjc and patchage [02:18] 12.04 is still supported [02:19] if you are more comfortable on 12.10, you can just use it.. like an appliance, i suppose [05:05] my sound is not working in ubuntu studio [05:06] any help please...? [05:10] in the volume manager, nothing is muted / turned down and you are using the correct output device? [05:10] is your output device listed? [05:16] where's the volume manager [05:18] volume icon -> sound settings. OR launcher menu -> media playback -> volume control [05:20] there no volume control [05:20] there's list audio or vedio tools [05:22] i'm using ubuntu studio 13.10 [05:25] in your launcher menu, you do not have a menu called Media Playback? [05:26] if not you can open a terminal from the launcher menu and type alsamixer [05:27] yeah its opened [05:27] and now what should i do [05:28] what do you have for output devices? [05:29] how to check output devices? [05:29] there is a tab that says output devices [05:29] click it [05:30] what is listed there [05:31] master, headphone, speaker, PCM, mic boost, beep, auto-mute, and internal [05:31] oh your in alsamixer [05:31] yeah [05:32] i'm in alsamixer [05:32] press F2 and select cards [05:32] f2 opening system information [05:33] f6 opens sound cards [05:33] i open it then? [05:33] you can select the default sound card with f6 (if your PC has more than 1) F2 then Cards will list whats in there [05:34] F2 then cards, what is there? [05:34] yeah i have two [05:35] cards but i have one nvidia and other one is intel [05:35] which should i select? [05:36] does your computer have HDMI? [05:36] no [05:37] it has HDA INTEL PCA [05:37] HDA Nvidia [05:37] which is currently set as default? [05:38] lets just select both [05:38] and make sure they are not turned down or muted [05:38] but nvidia is not turning up [05:38] you can use the arrow keys left / right to move, up / down to modify [05:39] you may need to install the propritary driver [05:39] but its not turning up [05:39] in launcher menu -> system -> update manager -> settings -> additional drivers [05:41] its updating system [05:46] i will let you know after updating' [10:05] hello everyone. something strange just happened. I've turned on my laptop and my ubuntustudio is all messed up. My workplaces dissapeared, firefox starts up at login and I can't cloe the window and all other windows are not working properly. [10:05] any help please [10:05] caodepalha, reboot [10:10] sorry... reboot. what do you mean? [10:12] caodepalha, shutdown and restart the computer [10:13] I've done that several times. everything works fine in the gnome enviroment. but if i log into xfce or ubuntustudio desktop i get everything desconfigured [10:14] caodepalha: sounds like user settings are screwed up [10:15] caodepalha: either find the specific files in your home folder, that you want to delete (reset), or delete whole folders, such as ~/.config ~/.cache [10:15] It only happens in the ubuntustudio & xfce enviroment. just one workplace, windows are strange some can be closed or resizeble once opened and firefox opens by default and frezzes [10:16] what happens if i delete the whole folder? [10:19] zequence, I'd agree - scrambled xfce4 config. [10:19] caodepalha, then your settings will reconfigure themselves [10:20] nothing will be lost? [10:20] caodepalha: It means many settings will be reset, so if you want to back up some, do that first [10:20] caodepalha, data? no, your data will be safe. [10:20] There are a lot of applications that store their settings in ~/.config [10:20] what settings are we talking about. sorry i'm still a noob [10:20] caodepalha: do: ls ~/.config [10:20] you'll see what is in there [10:21] caodepalha, desktop appearances, as you'll see [10:26] back. my internet connection fell [10:27] should i delete all files in config? [10:28] caodepalha: Again, look in that folder, and decide yourself if you want to do that [10:28] caodepalha, that would be the easiest thing to do. [10:28] caodepalha, but proceed carefully [10:28] There might be settings you want to keep, that you spent some time adjusting. Myself, I would just delete the whole folde ~/.config [10:29] and ~/.cache [10:29] caodepalha, the xfce settings are what seems to be scrambled. nuking those only might be the way to go [10:29] the is a folder called xfce4 is that the one? [10:29] caodepalha, wait 1 [10:30] caodepalha, yeah, that's the desktop environment settings folder [10:31] inside that folder i should go to the folder called desktop correct? [10:31] this is what is inside the folder xfce4: [10:31] desktop helpers.rc panel xfce4-notes.gtkrc xfce4-notes.rc xfce4-screenshooter xfconf xfwm4 [10:32] I'd just delete that whole folder [10:32] caodepalha, the few times I've done it, I just killed xfce4 [10:33] should i just delete the folder? [10:33] caodepalha, you may need to logout/login for full effect [10:34] caodepalha, delete it or rename it will have the same effect. [10:35] can i rename it for just xfce? [10:35] xfceBACKUP [10:35] so you know what it is [10:35] rename xfce4 to xfceBACKUP then log out and log in into ubuntustudio right? [10:36] yep [10:36] ok i'll give it a try and then come back here into the chat [10:43] ok i'm logged into ubuntustudio right now. firefox didn't start and freeze by default but still i have just one workplace and windows of programs cannot be closed or resizable [10:44] caodepalha, xfce settings on the dock [10:45] yes... [10:45] i can't add workplaces for eex [10:48] eex? what the ? [10:48] sorry. for example [10:49] caodepalha, you mean a dedicated workspace for that program specifically? [10:51] on the top right corner i have only one workplace. going to xfce settings on the dock and to workplaces i can't add more. I also can only work one window at a time. that mean that i have to close that window before going to another. everything is pretty much the same the only diference now is that firefox doesnt start up by default and frezzes [10:52] caodepalha, do you have another account on that machine to test with ? [10:52] yes [10:52] caodepalha, switch over and play with the other settings [10:53] ok back in a second [10:57] ok on the other acount everything works fine [10:58] what's wrong with my other acount? [11:00] caodepalha, good to know. okay then, here's the quick and dirty. nuke every hidden xfce folder in your /home and reset. Or you can go absolutely crazy and kill ALL the .hidden (ONLY the .hidden!!) files and rebuild it. [11:01] caodepalha, if I had to guess, I'd suspect you set something somewhere and forgot what/where but now it's causing you pain. [11:02] how do i nuke everything hidden in the xfce folder? delete? you mean my /home in my other account right? [11:02] exactly [11:03] note: killing ALL .hidden folders in /home means resetting/reconfiguring all the programs there. so email/links/ etc are GONE [11:03] email ACCOUNT settings not the email itself [11:04] ok just to check i go to the xfceBACKUP folder and delete everything. then log out and back in again correct? [11:04] caodepalha, no. [11:04] sorry [11:04] caodepalha, your xfcebackup folder is not the problem. [11:05] so i can kill just the hidden files in the /home folder of the account i'm having problems with? [11:05] somewhere in your /home settings (GUESSING it's in xfce somewhere) you've got a conflict with what you want now. *nuke 'em all from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.* [11:05] caodepalha: If you take a look in ~/.config, you'll see a new folder named xfc4. But, the problem may be anywhere. It is safe to delete ~/.cache [11:06] caodepalha, in fact, delete .cache before you try my method. [11:06] zequence, thanks. forgot about .cache file [11:06] so please tell me how to do so. [11:06] can i do it from this account? [11:07] rm filename from terminal or use file manager [11:07] deleting files of a different account needs root privilege [11:07] ok [11:07] sudo rm -R /path/to/folder [11:07] caodepalha, so log out . go back to the problem account [11:08] ok back in a second [11:10] ok I'm logged into the problematic account now [11:11] what now? [11:17] i'll have to get this sorted latter. thanks for the help so far [11:48] how to set audio latency with terminal? [11:48] jackd to 4096 [11:48] at 41k [11:59] Teleport: depends on if you're running jackd or jackdbus [11:59] Teleport: Check options for jackd with: jackd --help [11:59] but, to answer your question about jackd: jackd -d alsa -r 441000 -p 4096 [12:00] to see alsa options, do: jackd -d alsa --help [12:00] jackdbus runs from whatever settings you have saved [12:00] so, you could use qjackctl to make the settings, then do: jack_control start [12:31] tnx zequence always you help me with these [12:32] zequence Failed to open server [12:33] zequence `default' server already active [12:33] how to disable for a while to config?? [12:36] Teleport: I don't know what you are running now. Do: ps -eo comm | grep jack [12:36] Teleport: paste to http://paste.ubuntu.com [12:39] zequence jackdbus [12:40] only jackdbus [12:49] Teleport: jack_control stop [12:50] hmm, seems like those tools have changed on 13.10 (Debian Jessie) [12:51] Ah, no. I just seem to have had jack1 installed [12:59] zequence I have jack2 [13:00] brb restart [13:05] zequence back [13:06] zequence still doesnt work [13:06] zequence I have Cadence [13:06] zequence ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.48:/org/jackaudio/Controller: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. [13:12] Teleport: Just kill the process, and start from the beginning [13:12] killall -9 jackdbus [13:13] I don't know how Cadence works [13:13] Teleport: ask falktx for advice on kx tools [13:14] zequence Cannot initialize driver [13:14] JackServer::Open failed with -1 [13:14] Failed to open server [13:20] zequence Thanks [13:59] http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2014/wp/wp-admin/ [14:00] cfhowlett_: You an admin for that page? [14:00] I'm thinking you meant http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2014/ [14:01] zequence, thanks. no, it just popped up on #fedora-design and I thought I'd share. [14:01] zequence, of course, if any kind soul wants to SPONSOR me, well ... [14:28] Any advice on 32 or 64 bit, when installing on an Atom D525? With just 2GB ram... [14:29] Siya, pretty sure you want the 32 bit [14:31] cfhowlett_: kthnx, unetbootin takes ages to prep my usb install stick so was not looking forward to redoing it in 64 bit... [14:31] The D525 is 64 bit but the forum has talk about vst plugins etc not being 64 bit [14:32] Siya, understood [14:33] Siya, I think the limitation is the ram but I could be misinformed. 2 gigs is pretty minimal. running 64 bit in virtualbox killed my laptop. 32 bit seems to be marginally more functional. [14:33] * Siya is loving his SSD though, was about time I put it to good use [14:34] cfhowlett_: I run pae on my work laptop (6yr old Dell D630) with 4GB ram [14:34] virtualbox runs quite well there [14:34] cool. [14:34] Just trying to squeeze every little bit of speed out of this Atom cpu. Rakarrack are [14:35] s/ are/ is cpu hungry/ [14:35] Siya, indeed they are. [14:35] running with HT off doesn't seem to make any difference to XRUNs in jack [14:39] Pitty that Rakarrack isn't multi treaded [14:39] s/tr/thr/ [14:40] Anyone here with experience of Pyjack? [14:40] !opensourcemusicians [14:40] #opensourcemusicians should know about that [14:41] kthnx [14:41] Either I continue with alsaaudio and snd-aloop or go direct with pyjack [17:13] argh... I had snd-aloop working with 4 outputs yesterday [17:13] Reinstalled and now I have 4 inputs [17:14] :( [20:17] hey folks - i had a studio setup at one point that i would like to resurrect. cpu: amd athlon xp 500, mem: 1GB, drive: sata-150 320GB, software: win xp with protools [20:17] i know it's old and slow...i still want to use it if possible because it use to work very well [20:19] i'll be purchasing a lexicon omega to replace my old maudio firewire. my question is this: i don't know anything about linux-based audio tools. is there a difference between ubuntu studio and 64studio? can i expect that hardware combination + the Omega + ubuntu studio OR 64studio to perform at least as well as the xp+protools combination? [20:22] and is there anything you guys think i might be missing in this setup? [20:23] 64studio hasn't been around for quite a while, I think' [20:23] generally, the software on all Linux distros is the same [20:24] it's just a matter of having different package managers for software installation, and a few other things [20:24] Ubuntu Studio has a custom menu, which might be a plus [20:24] i'm familiar with linux and use it as my primary desktop OS. i was assuming that these distros ("studio") were pre-tweaked for audio recording so that users didn't have to bother [20:24] Yeah, but those configs are quite few in number [20:24] eg. latency and pre-install packages [20:24] linux-lowlatency kernel, which is not a realtime kernel [20:25] and realtime privilege for the user [20:25] yup [20:25] so, more generally, on my crappy old athlon am I going to get the same (or better) performance using this set of tools than i did with xp+protools? [20:25] XFCE requires a lot more RAM than XP [20:26] 1GB is a bare minimum [20:26] for audio apps, that's pretty fine. But as soon as you use a web browser, such as Firefox, you'll find 1GB is a very small amount of RAM [20:26] really? audio processing doesn't pretty much blow web browsing out of the water memory-wise? [20:27] processing doesn't really require RAM other than for the few kb ues [20:27] used* [20:27] If we're talking about plugins here [20:28] Then it's mostly a matter of the processor, how fast it is [20:28] I recommend installing Lubuntu [20:28] Then do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio linux-lowlatency [20:29] I think the custom menu should work, and it's called ubuntustudio-menu [20:29] well typically what i use to do was: make a click track, add some rhythm and chordal stuff with maybe a reference vocal, then layer the real instrumentation on one-by-one. i usually have verb, compression, and eq on every track to some degree [20:29] then, to get realtime privilege: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER [20:29] writing this down.... [20:29] I'd use external monitoring, so you don't need to have low latency while recording [20:30] what do you mean by "external" monitoring? [20:32] When recording a guitar for instance, use an external mixer for monitorin the guitar, while hearing the already recorded music from the computer [20:32] This way, you don't need low latency at all [20:32] NOt unless you are using some sort of live effects in the computer, or a virtual synth that you are actively plaing [20:33] so external mixing == playback from PC mixed with whatever is being sent in for recording? [20:33] yeah [20:33] http://www.lexiconpro.com/en-US/products/omega [20:34] wonder if this will handle that for me via the phono jack? [20:34] Did you make sure it's fully supported on Linux? [20:34] It has direct monitoring, yes [20:35] You can mix playback with whatever is going in ("direct") [20:35] The knob "Monitor Mix" [20:35] http://adn.harmanpro.com/product_attachments/product_attachments/861_1330541555/139_original.jpg [20:36] and i would need to do something special to get the PC to playback thru the recording device? or linux will treat this device like a sound card and use it as a full-duplex device? [20:37] i see. the knob label kinda gives it away, does it? :) [20:37] Most USB devices will at least work as 1.1 devices, meaning stereo in/out at 44.1 kHz [20:38] Linux has kind of poor support for USB 2.0 audio cards [20:38] http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/hardware_matrix [20:39] hmm. well i haven't bought it yet. do you have a better recommendation for me? [20:40] not to put it all on you; you've been very helpful already. i thought you might have a device in mind that you personally know works well [20:40] http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/hardware [20:40] There is a USB 8x8 device that is very nice [20:41] But, I haven't used any myself [20:41] Presonus AudioBox-1818VSL [20:41] Full support [20:42] These are said to work as well Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 and 2i4 [20:42] should i not choose something out of the desktop section rather than the laptop section? [20:42] PCI is the easiest. And in a way, firewire (except so few laptops have firewire these days) [20:43] I have a focusrite pro40 myself. Works great [20:43] Also, m-audio 1010LT [20:44] Hello ! [20:44] aicasn: If you don't need a device for laptops, don't buy a USB device, unless perhaps one of the two I listed above [20:45] ah. well that narrows it down [20:45] hi Imote [20:56] zequence: i think your pro40 is a bit too much for my needs [20:56] looks nice though [20:56] 20 inputs. pfft [20:56] 8 I/O analogue [20:57] The rest is ADAT and spdif [20:57] you probably only need stereo? [20:57] meh. 2 to 4 simultaneous channels (ie. 1 to 2 stereo) [20:58] i picked the 4-bus lexicon to give myself room and because i could pick it up for < $200 [20:59] I do a lot of live processing with multiple audio sources, also - sometimes I record drums. I actually need an additional device for that [21:00] electric drum kit or accoustic (real) drums? [21:02] acoustic. Otherwise I'd only need midi :) [21:03] so you have various instrument mics placed around the kit that you're recording into separate mono channels? [21:05] Yes [21:06] 10-12 usually [21:07] http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/862 your pro40 is listed as "experimental" by the ffado project. same as the lower-end pro14 [21:07] suppose that means the 14 would work since you reported not having any issues with it [21:08] Don't know [21:08] the pro40 has been working fully for quite some time. There might be issues with the ffado-mixer still, not sure [21:08] There are other firewire devices that work well too [21:10] do you know anything about the ethernet devices? i'm sure they're pricey but i wonder what the linux support is like for networked devices [21:16] yeah nvm. waaay too much $$ === aicasn is now known as aicasn-away [23:31] my sound is not working all apps except vlc [23:31] my sound is not working in all apps except vlc [23:33] oaulakh: Not sure if you mean that vlc is the only thing working, or the other way around [23:33] only vlc is working good [23:34] and other all does'nt have sound? [23:34] why that happening in ubunt studio? [23:35] if standard settings for vlc work, then desktop audio in general works [23:35] did you change vlc audio settings? [23:37] no [23:37] yeah working [23:37] sory.... [23:39] when i set alsa mixer when vlc was working, i press F5 for dfault setting for all like vlc have and ta da its working on same settings for all [23:39] thank you very much [23:52] np