[00:05] <bill__> Hi - I installed unity in 13.10 ubuntu studio - how can I uninstall it
[00:08] <dcosnet> apt-get remove some-words
[00:09] <dcosnet> most likely:
[00:09] <dcosnet> apt-get remove unity
[00:24] <zequence> dcosnet: Might be a bit harder than that. Unity depends on a lot of other packages, which won't be removed if uninstalling unity
[00:24] <dcosnet> ah
[00:31] <oaulakh> anyone have good thmes?
[00:46] <oaulakh> how to install fluxbox in ubuntu studio?
[00:46] <dcosnet> apt-get update && apt-get install fluxbox
[00:46] <oaulakh> i install it
[00:46] <oaulakh> but dunno how to apply it
[00:47] <dcosnet> at login screen, type your infos FIRST, then click top right to select fluxbox
[00:47] <dcosnet> login and out. now it should be default
[00:47] <oaulakh> wait going to try
[00:47] <dcosnet> k
[00:49] <oaulakh> its working thanks
[00:49] <dcosnet> no problem. i use fluxbox too
[00:49] <oaulakh> thank you very much
[00:49] <oaulakh> its too good to look
[00:49] <oaulakh> right naaa
[00:50] <oaulakh> do you know how we add start menu or ubuntu menu in fluxbox or i have to always use left click to start an app
[00:51] <dcosnet> there is a few apps you could use
[00:52] <oaulakh> then what should i do to see all apps?
[00:54] <dcosnet> http://code.google.com/p/wbar/
[00:54] <oaulakh> how to load diffrent themes in fluxbox like if i download one?
[00:54] <dcosnet> themes are in ~/.fluxbox/
[00:54] <dcosnet> give wbar a try
[00:55] <oaulakh> okkk cool
[00:55] <oaulakh> you really good man
[00:55] <dcosnet> ya
[00:56] <dcosnet> i have used alot of stuff
[00:56] <oaulakh> one thing more in ubuntu i can open terminal with ALT+Crtl+T
[00:56] <oaulakh> but in ubuntustudio i cant
[00:56] <oaulakh> how i can use shortcuts?
[00:56] <dcosnet> fluxbox has its own shortcuts
[00:57] <dcosnet> edit configs in ~/.fluxbox/
[00:57] <oaulakh> can i make my own
[00:57] <dcosnet> ya
[00:57] <dcosnet> i do
[00:57] <oaulakh> how?
[00:58] <dcosnet> .fluxbox/keys
[00:58] <dcosnet> edit that file
[00:59] <oaulakh> okkk
[00:59] <dcosnet> read the existing shortcuts and test a few to try and learn the commands in the config
[00:59] <oaulakh> okkk
[01:01] <oaulakh> cool
[01:01] <oaulakh> can i craete my own lock screen popup
[01:01] <oaulakh> in ubuntu studio
[01:04] <dcosnet> xscreensaver can do this if configured
[01:04] <oaulakh> cool
[01:05] <oaulakh> thanks for all help man
[01:05] <oaulakh> see you later
[01:06] <oaulakh> its ALT +F1 to open terminal
[01:06] <oaulakh> keys file is good to start
[01:08] <SysAdmin_Raven> i am having an interesting problem.  When I open idjc it opens 21 instances of the program in memory.  Then when I connect to a streaming server idjc opens at least another 6 instances in memory and eats every available cpu tick so that all my cores hit 100% usage.  anyone have any idea how to fix this?   i am running ubuntustudio 13.04 on an AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 630 Processor with 6 gig of ram.  Anyone have any idea how to fix
[01:08] <SysAdmin_Raven> this?
[01:15] <dcosnet> thats a new one to me
[01:15] <dcosnet> try opening it manually from a terminal
[01:16] <dcosnet> such as open xterm, type: idjc &
[01:16] <dcosnet> then press enter twice
[01:16] <dcosnet> close terminal
[01:16] <SysAdmin_Raven> yep and it's weird I can open idjc and cpu usage is fine as soon as i connect to a streaming server cpu usage hits 100% across the board
[01:17] <dcosnet> the & tells it you dont want the terminal to remain required
[01:20] <SysAdmin_Raven> same thing cpu usage on all 4 cores hits 100% as soon as I connect to a streaming server
[01:33] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: what is the terminal output?
[01:34] <holstein> bill__: you can always just leave unity there, and login to another DE from the loging screen
[01:43] <SysAdmin_Raven> standby please
[01:43] <nv_> ... .  .
[01:47] <SysAdmin_Raven> terminal output is here http://pastebin.com/D4Gn8N3E
[01:50] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: if it were me (like, back when i used idjc to stream to an icecase server and i needed to troubleshoot) i would try other codes.. and other servers.. and local servers (so as to remove any networking from the equation)
[01:50] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: i would maybe try loading as much as i could up on a live CD and test to remove my system config from the equation
[01:51] <holstein> i remember ending up with using darkice to stream from JACK..
[01:51] <SysAdmin_Raven> i have done the live cd on various systems I get the same thing on all systems and my icecast server is local to my network
[01:52] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: then, i would see if you can find some activity with the idjc dev/devs.. but i think its a older project that is getting phased out..
[01:52] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: there are many other options to stream.. and i would try them, and see if they work better for you
[01:53] <holstein> with JACK and something stream from JACK, you can do what idjc does anyways
[01:54] <SysAdmin_Raven> i've been trying mixxx but it wants to be a pain when I try to link a voice option into (either mic or skype)
[01:55] <holstein> sure
[01:55] <holstein> just dont do that
[01:55] <holstein> "link" the mic with JACK.. connect whatever you want to the jack compatible streamer
[01:55] <holstein> JACK *is* the all-in-one app you would be looking for, in this scneario
[01:56] <holstein> with the pulse dbus that is enabled by default, you can link what you like to skype easily
[01:57] <SysAdmin_Raven> well i'm having two problems there when ever i try to link jack or pulse into the settings for mixxx either mixxx locks up my system or i get no sound
[01:58] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: what are you using mixx for?
[01:58] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: if its to play audio, try using audacious.. or VLC
[01:59] <SysAdmin_Raven> like i can set the master on output to jacksource and there is no sound
[01:59] <SysAdmin_Raven> using to stream internet radio out trying to get my own station setup
[01:59] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: i used BUTT
[02:00] <holstein> http://butt.sourceforge.net/
[02:00] <SysAdmin_Raven> i'll take a look at it
[02:00] <holstein> i would literally get what i wanted playing on one machine running JACK, and pipe that over via an analog cable
[02:00] <holstein> then, i started using darkice out of JACK
[02:01] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: darkice is the streaming service.. so i would connect what i wanted out of JACK to darkice to stream
[02:01] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: mixxx didnt work
[02:01] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: idjc didnt work
[02:01] <SysAdmin_Raven> icecast2 has always worked for me, I'll take a look at butt
[02:02] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: that was *years* ago.. and i didnt find anything helpful to share.. nor anyone helpful to share the information with.. so i went on to other software, since i really didnt need the functionality they were providing. as you dont either
[02:02] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: icecast2 is the server
[02:02] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: we are talking about clients
[02:02] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: darkice is a JACK client for icecast servers
[02:03] <holstein> SysAdmin_Raven: it allows you to, for example.. take *anything* playing out of jack and connect it.. like you are trying to do with mixxx and idjc.. .but, you dont need those applications.. you just add a darkice source and connect what you like out of JACK
[02:03] <holstein> *or*... using BUTT via the pulse dbus might be nice
[02:03] <SysAdmin_Raven> oh okay i'll take a look at darkice also
[02:04] <holstein> when we found mumble, we stopped using it to stream the podcast
[02:09] <SysAdmin_Raven> well what i'm wanting to do is stream mp3's, pre-recorded shows live skype calls or calls out of my browser on gvoice
[02:10] <SysAdmin_Raven> back in 12.10 i was able to do that with jack, idjc and patchage
[02:18] <holstein> 12.04 is still supported
[02:19] <holstein> if you are more comfortable on 12.10, you can just use it.. like an appliance, i suppose
[05:05] <oaulakh_> my sound is not working in ubuntu studio
[05:06] <oaulakh_> any help please...?
[05:10] <nv_> in the volume manager, nothing is muted / turned down and you are using the correct output device?
[05:10] <nv_> is your output device listed?
[05:16] <oaulakh_> where's the volume manager
[05:18] <nv_> volume icon -> sound settings.  OR  launcher menu -> media playback -> volume control
[05:20] <oaulakh_> there no volume control
[05:20] <oaulakh_> there's list audio or vedio tools
[05:22] <oaulakh_> i'm using ubuntu studio 13.10
[05:25] <nv_> in your launcher menu, you do not have a menu called Media Playback?
[05:26] <nv_> if not you can open a terminal from the launcher menu and type alsamixer
[05:27] <oaulakh_> yeah its opened
[05:27] <oaulakh_> and now what should i do
[05:28] <nv_> what do you have for output devices?
[05:29] <oaulakh_> how to check output devices?
[05:29] <nv_> there is a tab that says output devices
[05:29] <nv_> click it
[05:30] <nv_> what is listed there
[05:31] <oaulakh_> master, headphone, speaker, PCM, mic boost, beep, auto-mute, and internal
[05:31] <nv_> oh your in alsamixer
[05:31] <oaulakh_> yeah
[05:32] <oaulakh_> i'm in alsamixer
[05:32] <nv_> press F2 and select cards
[05:32] <oaulakh_> f2 opening system information
[05:33] <oaulakh_> f6 opens sound cards
[05:33] <oaulakh_> i open it then?
[05:33] <nv_> you can select the default sound card with f6 (if your PC has more than 1) F2 then Cards will list whats in there
[05:34] <nv_> F2 then cards, what is there?
[05:34] <oaulakh_> yeah i have two
[05:35] <oaulakh_> cards but i have one nvidia and other one is intel
[05:35] <oaulakh_> which should i select?
[05:36] <nv_> does your computer have HDMI?
[05:36] <oaulakh_> no
[05:37] <oaulakh_> it has HDA INTEL PCA
[05:37] <oaulakh_> HDA Nvidia
[05:37] <nv_> which is currently set as default?
[05:38] <nv_> lets just select both
[05:38] <nv_> and make sure they are not turned down or muted
[05:38] <oaulakh_> but nvidia is not turning up
[05:38] <nv_> you can use the arrow keys left / right to move, up / down to modify
[05:39] <nv_> you may need to install the propritary driver
[05:39] <oaulakh_> but its not turning up
[05:39] <nv_> in launcher menu -> system -> update manager -> settings -> additional drivers
[05:41] <oaulakh_> its updating system
[05:46] <oaulakh_> i will let you know after updating'
[10:05] <caodepalha> hello everyone. something strange just happened. I've turned on my laptop and my ubuntustudio is all messed up. My workplaces dissapeared, firefox starts up at login and I can't cloe the window and all other windows are not working properly.
[10:05] <caodepalha> any help please
[10:05] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, reboot
[10:10] <caodepalha> sorry... reboot. what do you mean?
[10:12] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, shutdown and restart the computer
[10:13] <caodepalha> I've done that several times. everything works fine in the gnome enviroment. but if i log into xfce or ubuntustudio desktop i get everything desconfigured
[10:14] <zequence> caodepalha: sounds like user settings are screwed up
[10:15] <zequence> caodepalha: either find the specific files in your home folder, that you want to delete (reset), or delete whole folders, such as ~/.config ~/.cache
[10:15] <caodepalha> It only happens in the ubuntustudio & xfce enviroment. just one workplace, windows are strange some can be closed or resizeble once opened and firefox opens by default and frezzes
[10:16] <caodepalha> what happens if i delete the whole folder?
[10:19] <cfhowlett> zequence, I'd agree - scrambled xfce4 config.
[10:19] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, then your settings will reconfigure themselves
[10:20] <caodepalha> nothing will be lost?
[10:20] <zequence> caodepalha: It means many settings will be reset, so if you want to back up some, do that first
[10:20] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, data?  no, your data will be safe.
[10:20] <zequence> There are a lot of applications that store their settings in ~/.config
[10:20] <caodepalha> what settings are we talking about. sorry i'm still a noob
[10:20] <zequence> caodepalha: do: ls ~/.config
[10:20] <zequence> you'll see what is in there
[10:21] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, desktop appearances, as you'll see
[10:26] <caodepalha> back. my internet connection fell
[10:27] <caodepalha> should i delete all files in config?
[10:28] <zequence> caodepalha: Again, look in that folder, and decide yourself if you want to do that
[10:28] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, that would be the easiest thing to do.
[10:28] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, but proceed carefully
[10:28] <zequence> There might be settings you want to keep, that you spent some time adjusting. Myself, I would just delete the whole folde ~/.config
[10:29] <zequence> and ~/.cache
[10:29] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, the xfce settings are what seems to be scrambled.  nuking those only might be the way to go
[10:29] <caodepalha> the is a folder called xfce4 is that the one?
[10:29] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, wait 1
[10:30] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, yeah, that's the desktop environment settings folder
[10:31] <caodepalha> inside that folder i should go to the folder called desktop correct?
[10:31] <caodepalha> this is what is inside the folder xfce4:
[10:31] <caodepalha> desktop  helpers.rc  panel  xfce4-notes.gtkrc  xfce4-notes.rc  xfce4-screenshooter  xfconf  xfwm4
[10:32] <zequence> I'd just delete that whole folder
[10:32] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, the few times I've done it, I just killed xfce4
[10:33] <caodepalha> should i just delete the folder?
[10:33] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, you may need to logout/login for full effect
[10:34] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, delete it or rename it will have the same effect.
[10:35] <caodepalha> can i rename it for just xfce?
[10:35] <cfhowlett> xfceBACKUP
[10:35] <cfhowlett> so you know what it is
[10:35] <caodepalha> rename xfce4 to xfceBACKUP then log out and log in into ubuntustudio right?
[10:36] <cfhowlett> yep
[10:36] <caodepalha> ok i'll give it a try and then come back here into the chat
[10:43] <caodepalha> ok i'm logged into ubuntustudio right now. firefox didn't start and freeze by default but still i have just one workplace and windows of programs cannot be closed or resizable
[10:44] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, xfce settings on the dock
[10:45] <caodepalha> yes...
[10:45] <caodepalha> i can't add workplaces for eex
[10:48] <cfhowlett> eex?  what the ?
[10:48] <caodepalha> sorry. for example
[10:49] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, you mean a dedicated workspace for that program specifically?
[10:51] <caodepalha> on the top right corner i have only one workplace. going to xfce settings on the dock and to workplaces i can't add more. I also can only work one window at a time. that mean that i have to close that window before going to another. everything is pretty much the same the only diference now is that firefox doesnt start up by default and frezzes
[10:52] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, do you have another account on that machine to test with ?
[10:52] <caodepalha> yes
[10:52] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, switch over and play with the other settings
[10:53] <caodepalha> ok back in a second
[10:57] <caodepalha> ok on the other acount everything works fine
[10:58] <caodepalha> what's wrong with my other acount?
[11:00] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, good to know.  okay then, here's the quick and dirty.  nuke every hidden xfce folder in your /home and reset.  Or you can go absolutely crazy and kill ALL the .hidden (ONLY the .hidden!!) files and rebuild it.
[11:01] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, if I had to guess, I'd suspect you set something somewhere and forgot what/where but now it's causing you pain.
[11:02] <caodepalha> how do i nuke everything hidden in the xfce folder? delete? you mean my /home in my other account right?
[11:02] <cfhowlett> exactly
[11:03] <cfhowlett> note: killing ALL .hidden folders in /home means resetting/reconfiguring all the programs there.  so email/links/ etc are GONE
[11:03] <cfhowlett> email ACCOUNT settings not the email itself
[11:04] <caodepalha> ok just to check i go to the xfceBACKUP folder and delete everything. then log out and back in again correct?
[11:04] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, no.
[11:04] <caodepalha> sorry
[11:04] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, your xfcebackup folder is not the problem.
[11:05] <caodepalha> so i can kill just the hidden files in the /home folder of the account i'm having problems with?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> somewhere in your /home settings (GUESSING it's in xfce somewhere) you've got a conflict with what you want now.  *nuke 'em all from orbit.  It's the only way to be sure.*
[11:05] <zequence> caodepalha: If you take a look in ~/.config, you'll see a new folder named xfc4. But, the problem may be anywhere. It is safe to delete ~/.cache
[11:06] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, in fact, delete .cache before you try my method.
[11:06] <cfhowlett> zequence, thanks.  forgot about .cache file
[11:06] <caodepalha> so please tell me how to do so.
[11:06] <caodepalha> can i do it from this account?
[11:07] <cfhowlett> rm filename from terminal or use file manager
[11:07] <zequence> deleting files of a different account needs root privilege
[11:07] <caodepalha> ok
[11:07] <zequence> sudo rm -R /path/to/folder
[11:07] <cfhowlett> caodepalha, so log out .  go back to the problem account
[11:08] <caodepalha> ok back in a second
[11:10] <caodepalha> ok I'm logged into the problematic account now
[11:11] <caodepalha> what now?
[11:17] <caodepalha> i'll have to get this sorted latter. thanks for the help so far
[11:48] <Teleport> how to set  audio latency with terminal?
[11:48] <Teleport> jackd to 4096
[11:48] <Teleport> at 41k
[11:59] <zequence> Teleport: depends on if you're running jackd or jackdbus
[11:59] <zequence> Teleport: Check options for jackd with: jackd --help
[11:59] <zequence> but, to answer your question about jackd: jackd -d alsa -r 441000 -p 4096
[12:00] <zequence> to see alsa options, do: jackd -d alsa --help
[12:00] <zequence> jackdbus runs from whatever settings you have saved
[12:00] <zequence> so, you could use qjackctl to make the settings, then do: jack_control start
[12:31] <Teleport> tnx zequence always you help me with these
[12:32] <Teleport> zequence Failed to open server
[12:33] <Teleport> zequence `default' server already active
[12:33] <Teleport> how to disable for a while to config??
[12:36] <zequence> Teleport: I don't know what you are running now. Do: ps -eo comm | grep jack
[12:36] <zequence> Teleport: paste to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:39] <Teleport> zequence jackdbus
[12:40] <Teleport> only jackdbus
[12:49] <zequence> Teleport: jack_control stop
[12:50] <zequence> hmm, seems like those tools have changed on 13.10 (Debian Jessie)
[12:51] <zequence> Ah, no. I just seem to have had jack1 installed
[12:59] <Teleport> zequence I have jack2
[13:00] <Teleport> brb restart
[13:05] <Teleport> zequence back
[13:06] <Teleport> zequence still doesnt work
[13:06] <Teleport> zequence I have Cadence
[13:06] <Teleport> zequence ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.48:/org/jackaudio/Controller: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[13:12] <zequence> Teleport: Just kill the process, and start from the beginning
[13:12] <zequence> killall -9 jackdbus
[13:13] <zequence> I don't know how Cadence works
[13:13] <zequence> Teleport: ask falktx for advice on kx tools
[13:14] <Teleport> zequence Cannot initialize driver
[13:14] <Teleport> JackServer::Open failed with -1
[13:14] <Teleport> Failed to open server
[13:20] <Teleport> zequence Thanks
[13:59] <cfhowlett_> http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2014/wp/wp-admin/
[14:00] <zequence> cfhowlett_: You an admin for that page?
[14:00] <zequence> I'm thinking you meant http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2014/
[14:01] <cfhowlett_> zequence, thanks.  no, it just popped up on #fedora-design and I thought I'd share.
[14:01] <cfhowlett_> zequence, of course, if any kind soul wants to SPONSOR me, well ...
[14:28] <Siya> Any advice on 32 or 64 bit, when installing on an Atom D525? With just 2GB ram...
[14:29] <cfhowlett_> Siya, pretty sure you want the 32 bit
[14:31] <Siya> cfhowlett_: kthnx, unetbootin takes ages to prep my usb install stick so was not looking forward to redoing it in 64 bit...
[14:31] <Siya> The D525 is 64 bit but the forum has talk about vst plugins etc not being 64 bit
[14:32] <cfhowlett_> Siya, understood
[14:33] <cfhowlett_> Siya, I think the limitation is the ram but I could be misinformed.  2 gigs is pretty minimal.  running 64 bit in virtualbox killed my laptop.  32 bit seems to be marginally more functional.
[14:33]  * Siya is loving his SSD though, was about time I put it to good use
[14:34] <Siya> cfhowlett_: I run pae on my work laptop (6yr old Dell D630) with 4GB ram
[14:34] <Siya> virtualbox runs quite well there
[14:34] <cfhowlett_> cool.
[14:34] <Siya> Just trying to squeeze every little bit of speed out of this Atom cpu. Rakarrack are
[14:35] <Siya> s/ are/ is cpu hungry/
[14:35] <cfhowlett_> Siya, indeed they are.
[14:35] <Siya> running with HT off doesn't seem to make any difference to XRUNs in jack
[14:39] <Siya> Pitty that Rakarrack isn't multi treaded
[14:39] <Siya> s/tr/thr/
[14:40] <Siya> Anyone here with experience of Pyjack?
[14:40] <cfhowlett_> !opensourcemusicians
[14:40] <cfhowlett_> #opensourcemusicians should know about that
[14:41] <Siya> kthnx
[14:41] <Siya> Either I continue with alsaaudio and snd-aloop or go direct with pyjack
[17:13] <Siya> argh... I had snd-aloop working with 4 outputs yesterday
[17:13] <Siya> Reinstalled and now I have 4 inputs
[17:14] <Siya> :(
[20:17] <aicasn> hey folks - i had a studio setup at one point that i would like to resurrect. cpu: amd athlon xp 500, mem: 1GB, drive: sata-150 320GB, software: win xp with protools
[20:17] <aicasn> i know it's old and slow...i still want to use it if possible because it use to work very well
[20:19] <aicasn> i'll be purchasing a lexicon omega to replace my old maudio firewire.  my question is this:  i don't know anything about linux-based audio tools. is there a difference between ubuntu studio and 64studio?  can i expect that hardware combination + the Omega + ubuntu studio OR 64studio  to perform at least as well as the xp+protools combination?
[20:22] <aicasn> and is there anything you guys think i might be missing in this setup?
[20:23] <zequence> 64studio hasn't been around for quite a while, I think'
[20:23] <zequence> generally, the software on all Linux distros is the same
[20:24] <zequence> it's just a matter of having different package managers for software installation, and a few other things
[20:24] <zequence> Ubuntu Studio has a custom menu, which might be a plus
[20:24] <aicasn> i'm familiar with linux and use it as my primary desktop OS. i was assuming that these distros ("studio") were pre-tweaked for audio recording so that users didn't have to bother
[20:24] <zequence> Yeah, but those configs are quite few in number
[20:24] <aicasn> eg. latency and pre-install packages
[20:24] <zequence> linux-lowlatency kernel, which is not a realtime kernel
[20:25] <zequence> and realtime privilege for the user
[20:25] <aicasn> yup
[20:25] <aicasn> so, more generally, on my crappy old athlon am I going to get the same (or better) performance using this set of tools than i did with xp+protools?
[20:25] <zequence> XFCE requires a lot more RAM than XP
[20:26] <zequence> 1GB is a bare minimum
[20:26] <zequence> for audio apps, that's pretty fine. But as soon as you use a web browser, such as Firefox, you'll find 1GB is a very small amount of RAM
[20:26] <aicasn> really?  audio processing doesn't pretty much blow web browsing out of the water memory-wise?
[20:27] <zequence> processing doesn't really require RAM other than for the few kb ues
[20:27] <zequence> used*
[20:27] <zequence> If we're talking about plugins here
[20:28] <zequence> Then it's mostly a matter of the processor, how fast it is
[20:28] <zequence> I recommend installing Lubuntu
[20:28] <zequence> Then do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio linux-lowlatency
[20:29] <zequence> I think the custom menu should work, and it's called ubuntustudio-menu
[20:29] <aicasn> well typically what i use to do was:  make a click track, add some rhythm and chordal stuff with maybe a reference vocal, then layer the real instrumentation on one-by-one.  i usually have verb, compression, and eq on every track to some degree
[20:29] <zequence> then, to get realtime privilege: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER
[20:29] <aicasn> writing this down....
[20:29] <zequence> I'd use external monitoring, so you don't need to have low latency while recording
[20:30] <aicasn> what do you mean by "external" monitoring?
[20:32] <zequence> When recording a guitar for instance, use an external mixer for monitorin the guitar, while hearing the already recorded music from the computer
[20:32] <zequence> This way, you don't need low latency at all
[20:32] <zequence> NOt unless you are using some sort of live effects in the computer, or a virtual synth that you are actively plaing
[20:33] <aicasn> so external mixing == playback from PC mixed with whatever is being sent in for recording?
[20:33] <zequence> yeah
[20:33] <aicasn> http://www.lexiconpro.com/en-US/products/omega
[20:34] <aicasn> wonder if this will handle that for me via the phono jack?
[20:34] <zequence> Did you make sure it's fully supported on Linux?
[20:34] <zequence> It has direct monitoring, yes
[20:35] <zequence> You can mix playback with whatever is going in ("direct")
[20:35] <zequence> The knob "Monitor Mix"
[20:35] <zequence> http://adn.harmanpro.com/product_attachments/product_attachments/861_1330541555/139_original.jpg
[20:36] <aicasn> and i would need to do something special to get the PC to playback thru the recording device? or linux will treat this device like a sound card and use it as a full-duplex device?
[20:37] <aicasn> i see. the knob label kinda gives it away, does it?  :)
[20:37] <zequence> Most USB devices will at least work as 1.1 devices, meaning stereo in/out at 44.1 kHz
[20:38] <zequence> Linux has kind of poor support for USB 2.0 audio cards
[20:38] <zequence> http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/hardware_matrix
[20:39] <aicasn> hmm.  well i haven't bought it yet.  do you have a better recommendation for me?
[20:40] <aicasn> not to put it all on you; you've been very helpful already. i thought you might have a device in mind that you personally know works well
[20:40] <zequence> http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/hardware
[20:40] <zequence> There is a USB 8x8 device that is very nice
[20:41] <zequence> But, I haven't used any myself
[20:41] <zequence> Presonus AudioBox-1818VSL
[20:41] <zequence> Full support
[20:42] <zequence> These are said to work as well Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 and 2i4
[20:42] <aicasn> should i not choose something out of the desktop section rather than the laptop section?
[20:42] <zequence> PCI is the easiest. And in a way, firewire (except so few laptops have firewire these days)
[20:43] <zequence> I have a focusrite pro40 myself. Works great
[20:43] <zequence> Also, m-audio 1010LT
[20:44] <Imote> Hello !
[20:44] <zequence> aicasn: If you don't need a device for laptops, don't buy a USB device, unless perhaps one of the two I listed above
[20:45] <aicasn> ah. well that narrows it down
[20:45] <aicasn> hi Imote
[20:56] <aicasn> zequence: i think your pro40 is a bit too much for my needs
[20:56] <aicasn> looks nice though
[20:56] <aicasn> 20 inputs.  pfft
[20:56] <zequence> 8 I/O analogue
[20:57] <zequence> The rest is ADAT and spdif
[20:57] <zequence> you probably only need stereo?
[20:57] <aicasn> meh. 2 to 4 simultaneous channels (ie. 1 to 2 stereo)
[20:58] <aicasn> i picked the 4-bus lexicon to give myself room and because i could pick it up for < $200
[20:59] <zequence> I do a lot of live processing with multiple audio sources, also - sometimes I record drums. I actually need an additional device for that
[21:00] <aicasn> electric drum kit or accoustic (real) drums?
[21:02] <zequence> acoustic. Otherwise I'd only need midi :)
[21:03] <aicasn> so you have various instrument mics placed around the kit that you're recording into separate mono channels?
[21:05] <zequence> Yes
[21:06] <zequence> 10-12 usually
[21:07] <aicasn> http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/862   your pro40 is listed as "experimental" by the ffado project.  same as the lower-end pro14
[21:07] <aicasn> suppose that means the 14 would work since you reported not having any issues with it
[21:08] <zequence> Don't know
[21:08] <zequence> the pro40 has been working fully for quite some time. There might be issues with the ffado-mixer still, not sure
[21:08] <zequence> There are other firewire devices that work well too
[21:10] <aicasn> do you know anything about the ethernet devices?  i'm sure they're pricey but i wonder what the linux support is like for networked devices
[21:16] <aicasn> yeah nvm. waaay too much $$
[23:31] <oaulakh> my sound is not working all apps except vlc
[23:31] <oaulakh> my sound is not working in all apps except vlc
[23:33] <zequence> oaulakh: Not sure if you mean that vlc is the only thing working, or the other way around
[23:33] <oaulakh> only vlc is working good
[23:34] <oaulakh> and other all does'nt have sound?
[23:34] <oaulakh> why that happening in ubunt studio?
[23:35] <zequence> if standard settings for vlc work, then desktop audio in general works
[23:35] <zequence> did you change vlc audio settings?
[23:37] <oaulakh> no
[23:37] <oaulakh> yeah working
[23:37] <oaulakh> sory....
[23:39] <oaulakh> when i set alsa mixer when vlc was working, i press F5 for dfault setting for all like vlc have and ta da its working on same settings for all
[23:39] <oaulakh> thank you very much
[23:52] <zequence> np