[00:04] <jamiet74> new to linux have 13.10 stuck in a few places
[00:05] <Unit193> !ask
[00:07] <jamiet74> having trouble getting skype to work
[00:07] <joe_shading> Hi guys .. I am not sure if I am using  the Saucy Release of Xubuntu or not ... http://imgur.com/f6z7rc6 Am I ??
[00:09] <David-A> jamiet74: more precisely, what problem?
[00:10] <jamiet74>  says audio playback not working
[00:12] <Unit193> joe_shading: That'd be a no, and  lsb_release -a
[00:12] <David-A> jamiet74: and when you make a test-call, you do not hear anything?
[00:12] <Unit193> joe_shading: do-release-upgrade to upgrade.
[00:12] <jamiet74> wont go thru stops itself
[00:13] <joe_shading> Unit193: So that command is : sudo apt-get release-upgrade  , Right ?
[00:14] <Unit193> joe_shading: ...No, `do-release-upgrade`
[00:14] <jamiet74> i can play music from pandora and sound files
[00:17] <joe_shading> Unit193: Looks like saucy's doing it's business now , thank-you.
[00:22] <Unit193> joe_shading: Sure.
[00:28] <David-A> jamiet74: in the settings dialog of skype, there should be a tab for sound or audio settings, where one can choose sound system or device.
[00:36] <xubuntu472> quit
[02:36] <slash0mega> is a standard xubuntu instalation supposed to use a network mounted filesystem? i just installed xubuntu and it is crashing during bootup when starting then stopping that
[02:42] <holstein> slash0mega: was this a case where a machine was failing? and you wanted to install linux on it? if so, it could be you are seeing errors relating to a hardware failure
[02:42] <holstein> slash0mega: can the live CD boot up on the hardware?
[03:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> Just for clarification, is 12.04 the last distro with non-pae kernels?
[03:08] <holstein> Poisoned_Dragon: iirc, 12.04 has non PAE, but there nonPAE options for others
[03:09] <Unit193> Other distros, yes.  Upstream kernel removed it too.
[03:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> gotcha. Just checking. Had to install 12.04 today. It's a capable pentium M but, they never bothered to give it a pae flag.
[03:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, PAE kernels look at it like it's unclean.
[04:33] <carlosef> quick question: any ideal configuration for xubuntu as guest os on virtualbox? using 12.04, OSX as host
[04:36] <ObrienDave> let me see if i can find you my settings
[04:37] <ObrienDave> dang, I killed all my VMs. sorry
[04:40] <CHUD_Warrior> Does anyone know if Belkin WiFiUSB adapters (model:F9L1101) will work with XUbuntu 13.10? I had significant trouble getting it working on Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 and would like to know if I'm walking into my own mess..
[05:54] <xubuntu867> It's ALIVE!!!!
[05:54] <ObrienDave> LOL okaaaaaaaay
[05:55] <xubuntu867> I Create New World!!!
[05:55] <cfhowlett> xubuntu867, with great power ...
[05:56] <xubuntu867> Innocent! Murder!! Coocies!!!!!
[05:56] <ObrienDave> was that cookies?
[05:56]  * cfhowlett really hopes so.
[05:56] <ObrienDave> yea, me too ;)
[06:08] <xubuntu867> http://ozyandmillie.org/comics/1998-05-15-Ozy-and-Millie.gif
[06:11] <xubuntu867> Vital...
[06:18] <Hitrik> I still remember the IRC commands! ^.^
[06:20] <ObrienDave> !yay
[06:23] <Hitrik> my home - RusNet
[07:24] <noobkid> hi there !
[07:25] <cfhowlett> noobkid, greetings
[07:31] <noobkid> Sorry to bother all of you here , I need help on repartitioning my C: drive which is my default boot disk . I am on Windows right now . This partition is for my Xubuntu . Should I create the unallocated space before or after ?  http://puu.sh/5h06c.png
[07:38] <nv_> im a little lost as to what your doing
[07:39] <nv_> can you be exactly concise about your intentions so we dont lose any data or give advise for the wrong intent
[07:45] <noobkid> i wanted to dual boot xubuntu alongside windows
[07:47] <nv_> then you dont need to do what you are doing
[07:50] <noobkid> but i need a new partition ?
[07:50] <nv_> boot the xubuntu install disk, during the install, it will ask if you want to install alongside Windows, Erase and install just xubuntu or Something Else, you want to choose "Something Else". this will bring you to Xubuntu's partition manager where you will select which partition you want to install to. this tool is exactly like the Partition Manager tool you are using now, except setup for installing Xubuntu.
[07:53] <nv_> you will need unallocated space to create a "/" partition (like C:\ in windows)
[07:54] <nv_> you can resize, move and create new partitions as nessesary
[07:54] <nv_> you can also be in here and get help at the time just like you are doing now
[07:55] <elfy> why not just use the install alongside option - then the install will create the / and swap for the install
[07:59] <nv_> because i still have no idea what hes doing
[07:59] <cfhowlett> nv_, and he's already left so ...
[07:59] <CHUD_Warrior> elfy: That's what I do. I install Windows on a fresh HD and then install Ubuntu using the "install alongside of..." option. The installer will recognise where Windows is and help me to make an informed decision on partitions.
[08:01] <elfy> CHUD_Warrior: personally I've always done partitioning prior to installing, but the guided thing should be the easiest thing.
[09:17] <ovrflw0x> why is (x)ubuntu font rendering better than opensuse KDE?
[09:18] <koegs> because
[09:19] <Sysi> different font on antialiasing settings I'd think
[09:19] <knome> koegs, please let's try to be helpful, or keep quiet.
[09:19] <Sysi> unless there's some qt vs. gtk thing going
[09:20] <ovrflw0x> huh?
[09:21] <knome> ovrflw0x, fair answer to your question. what's your problem?
[09:21] <koegs> knome: sorry, did not realize this is not offtopic!
[09:21] <knome> koegs, np.
[09:28] <ovrflw0x> knome, what patches does ubuntu use to make fonts look better?
[09:28] <knome> ovrflw0x, that's still not a problem you're trying to fix. and, i don't know. probably nothing.
[09:30] <koegs> ovrflw0x: you might want to take a look: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/appearance#fonts
[09:30] <koegs> not sure if KDE on OpenSuse overs such a thing though :)
[09:32] <ovrflw0x> is there a way to know what packages were installed recently?
[09:35] <koegs> ovrflw0x: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17012/is-it-possible-to-get-a-list-of-most-recently-installed-packages
[09:46] <ovrflw0x> koegs, how to remove software and its dependencies?
[09:47] <ovrflw0x> i installed clang which installed dependencies as well, i did apt-get remove clang, but it didn't remove its dependencies
[09:47] <cfhowlett> ovrflw0x, sudo apt-get purge clang
[09:48] <knome> and: sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:48] <cfhowlett> then sudo apt-get autoremove to clear out the orphans
[10:07] <hornypsycho> hello guys
[10:07] <hornypsycho> can someone please help me?
[10:09] <cfhowlett> !ask|hornypsycho,
[11:06] <helpme1> Hi guys, could someone please help me? I can only boot ubuntu on my laptop with acpi=off and I'm not sure how to fix it.
[11:26] <GrandCouillon> Hello guys ! By mistake, I pressed the "Don't show again" in a notification window. How can I reenable the message again ?
[11:57] <Organicanarchy> hey ya'll, any reason why my system would run better with win7 that xubuntu?
[11:58] <Organicanarchy> I'd really rather run linux, but shit
[12:07] <ObrienDave> describe "better"
[12:28] <cephyr_> hi, i have a problem with xubuntu 13.10, every login it restores a old session, how to disable the restore of a session and just boot up with a fresh desktop?
[12:37] <ObrienDave> under Settings, sessions and startup, you will find that
[12:48] <cephyr_> there is no option for starting a clean session every login
[12:48] <cephyr_> obriendave
[12:54] <xubuntu709> Hi all. Is there any default system restore function in ubuntu similar to that of windows systems? My Xubuntu stopped loading itsels after recent system update and nothing helps me to get into graphical user interface, it hangs itself on boot screen with rotating ring segment forever (no errors or fails in console)?
[12:55] <xubuntu709> Choosing previous kernel in GRUB does not help either.
[13:08] <ObrienDave> cephyr_, turn off "save session on logout"
[13:11] <ObrienDave> then make a "clean" session by closing all active windows, then "save current session"
[13:11] <ObrienDave> that will give you a "clean" session on startup
[13:12] <cephyr_> obriendave, okay thank you i will give it a try
[13:12] <Sysi> it's better to remove old sessions
[13:12] <cephyr_> sysi, i already tried to remove old sessions and i already unticked the option save session on logout
[13:13] <cephyr_> did not work for me
[13:14] <ObrienDave> yes, you can clear old sessions. that will help
[16:23] <xubuntu451> good night :)
[16:24] <xubuntu451> hey turkish admin ?
[16:25] <bazhang> !tr | xubuntu451
[16:26] <xubuntu451> thanks :))
[17:36] <xubuntu570> hello
[17:37] <wlan222> I have a problem installing Xubuntu
[17:38] <wlan222> The laptop starts the installer just fine but after like the half the installer window just dissappears and the spinning mouse cursor keeps spinning
[17:39] <wlan222> is that normal ?
[17:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> in the boot menu, I like to press tab and delete the words "quiet" and "splash" from the boot string.
[17:44] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then you can see error messages
[18:34] <Mitizaro> hello there!!
[18:34] <Mitizaro> is this the right place to ask a quick XUBUNTU/UBUNTU question?
[18:36] <Mitizaro> heyeeee there?
[18:36] <Mitizaro> deadzone
[18:37] <Mitizaro> teh zombies land of jerking on american pies..
[18:37] <Mitizaro> amazing bobsleight syndrome of deficient chess figures..
[18:37] <krytarik> !ask | Mitizaro
[18:37] <Mitizaro> nice
[18:37] <Mitizaro> okay
[18:37] <baizon> damn to slow
[18:37] <Mitizaro> so
[18:38] <Mitizaro> I want to play HON (heroes of newerth).  I have kinda old PC   and i cant get things going under Vector LInux (which is AMAZING distro btw)    -- i want to know if HON can be played in XUBUNTU just as well as in UBUNTU
[18:38] <Mitizaro> since XU would be easier on my system
[18:38] <TheSheep> xubuntu and ubuntu are the same under the hood
[18:38] <TheSheep> so if something works on one, it will work on the other
[18:39] <Mitizaro> aha
[18:39] <Mitizaro> um
[18:39] <baizon> plus, xubuntu uses less resources
[18:39] <Mitizaro> i thought they used different types of packages
[18:39] <Mitizaro> for the apps/programs
[18:39] <baizon> Mitizaro: no, only DE, Ubuntu uses Unity, xubuntu xfce
[18:39] <baizon> Mitizaro: both are based on debian and uses the deb format
[18:39] <Mitizaro> which meaaans...? :D
[18:39] <Mitizaro> ahaaa
[18:39] <Mitizaro> i see
[18:39] <Mitizaro> wow
[18:39] <Mitizaro> i think my vector linux is deb based as well
[18:40] <Mitizaro> it requires .rpm  packages for its installations
[18:40] <baizon> Mitizaro: no, it's based on slackware (according to wikipedia)
[18:40] <Mitizaro> i see
[18:41] <Mitizaro> i'm still quite new to the linux
[18:41] <baizon> .rpm is the Red Hat packaging format
[18:42] <Mitizaro> i have  2,4ghrz AMD (clocked ++ some hz, no voltage so = 2,6ghrz);  1,3gb ram,  nvidia geforce 5900zt     -- i was wondering exactly 3 things:   1st - is there point in installing UBUNTU/XUBUNTU;    2nd -- Could i play HON?      and finally 3rd question --  i have some problems because of the old processor (other people have the black screen on the game too)    -- and that would require some newer drivers and etc.   - XUBUNTU i suppose has it all?
[18:42] <Mitizaro> i'm refering to 13.10 versions
[18:42] <Mitizaro> of UB/XUB
[18:43] <TheSheep> !info nvidia-current
[18:43] <TheSheep> Mitizaro: is version 304.88 enough?
[18:43] <Mitizaro> i dunno
[18:43] <Mitizaro> :D
[18:44] <Mitizaro> i mean i suppose that would help... some people have edited program files of the game to run in lesser graphics in order to get away
[18:44] <Mitizaro> i have nothing but to test
[18:44] <Mitizaro> the thing is
[18:44] <baizon> 1. i would recommend xubuntu (because we are on #xubuntu), 2. yes and no. 3. xubuntu uses the latest drivers
[18:44] <Mitizaro> i've already been through.... 10-12 linuxes here
[18:44] <Mitizaro> i have all the puppies, have 3 lubuntu versions, 2 ubuntu, 4 mint, 1 mandriva, vector, legos4 etc.
[18:45] <baizon> Mitizaro: but you will have a HoN related problemm, because it need 1.5GB Ram
[18:45] <Mitizaro> really?
[18:45] <Mitizaro> i think it wants 1gb at minimum
[18:45] <baizon> Mitizaro: no sorry, i was wrong. It's ok :)
[18:45] <Mitizaro> yeah
[18:45] <baizon> yes you're right 1GB Ram. Some other site told me 1.5GB
[18:45] <Mitizaro> its the old AMD that causes problems (which ARE getting fixed)
[18:46] <Mitizaro> and
[18:46] <Mitizaro> my video might be... on the edge
[18:46] <Mitizaro> as far as i run some configs
[18:46] <Mitizaro> it wants something like
[18:46] <Mitizaro> 1.4
[18:46] <Mitizaro> i have
[18:46] <Mitizaro> 1.6
[18:46] <Mitizaro> dunno what parameter that is
[18:46] <Mitizaro> but despite being old - i should be playing that biatch
[18:46] <Mitizaro> all i get under vector is
[18:46] <Mitizaro> black screen
[18:46] <Mitizaro> when it launches
[18:46] <Mitizaro> (and the mouse)
[18:49] <bazhang> !enter
[18:50] <Mitizaro> okayy...
[18:52] <Mitizaro> well thats it guys
[18:52] <Mitizaro> oh one last thing -- what is the difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu?
[18:52] <bazhang> xfce4/gnome
[18:52] <TheSheep> the set of apps installed by default
[18:53] <knome> bazhang, unity.
[18:53] <TheSheep> and the desktop environment running by default
[18:53] <bazhang> why not ask the HoN channel?
[18:53] <bazhang> knome, gnome-shell here
[18:58] <Mitizaro> yes
[18:58] <Mitizaro> thats what i do
[18:58] <Mitizaro> actually
[18:58] <Mitizaro> and i noticed something
[18:58] <Mitizaro> that u can help me with
[18:58] <Mitizaro> btw
[18:58] <Mitizaro> im VERY grateful to u guys
[18:58] <Mitizaro> u rock!!
[18:58] <Mitizaro> i noticed this
[18:58] <Mitizaro> root:# glxinfo | grep -i "opengl\|direct\|server\|client" && lspci | grep -i vga && uname -a
[18:58] <Mitizaro> direct rendering: Yes
[18:58] <Mitizaro> server glx vendor string: SGI
[18:58] <Mitizaro> server glx version string: 1.4
[18:58] <Mitizaro> server glx extensions:
[18:58] <Mitizaro> client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
[18:58] <Mitizaro> client glx version string: 1.4
[18:58] <Mitizaro> client glx extensions:
[18:58] <Mitizaro> OpenGL vendor string: nouveau
[18:58] <Mitizaro> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NV35
[18:58] <Mitizaro> OpenGL version string: 1.5 Mesa 7.10.2
[18:58] <Mitizaro> OpenGL extensions:
[18:58] <Mitizaro> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV35 [GeForce FX 5900ZT] (rev a1)
[18:58] <Mitizaro> Linux mitizaro-vector.Linux.net 3.0.8 #1 SMP Sun Oct 30 17:20:23 MDT 2011 i686 Unknow CPU Type AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
[18:59] <Mitizaro> so i noticed
[18:59] <Mitizaro> that
[18:59] <Mitizaro> i have
[18:59] <knome> !pastebin | Mitizaro
[18:59] <Mitizaro> i686 processor
[18:59] <Mitizaro> oh
[18:59] <Mitizaro> sorry
[18:59] <Mitizaro> okay
[18:59] <knome> Mitizaro, and please, don't press enter all the time
[18:59] <knome> Mitizaro, this is the second time you've been told that
[19:00] <Mitizaro> my question is if i should be wary of some XUBUNTU version for my i686 processor... most of my OS during the years NEVER detect it properly in the info/config files.
[19:03] <faryshta> Hi. I am having an efi error here that grub-efi couldn't be installed
[19:04] <koegs> Mitizaro: what CPU do you have?
[19:04] <Mitizaro> well
[19:04] <Mitizaro> AMD 2,4GHRZ overclocked with hrz (no voltage upped) to = 2,6 - 2,8GHRz of output
[19:06] <koegs> so i suggest using Xubuntu 64bit
[19:06] <Mitizaro> lol
[19:07] <Mitizaro> thats the first time ever i'm going to put x64 on the system... maybe it will actually boost it
[19:07] <koegs> Mitizaro: you will not really notice any difference in speed
[19:08] <faryshta> how do i use a proxy-script on  apt-get?
[19:08] <silentworks> hello, i'm new to xubuntu
[19:08] <koegs> faryshta: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy
[19:10] <faryshta> koegs: i don't see the option for proxy script there
[19:11] <koegs> faryshta: what do you mean by "proxy script"
[19:12] <faryshta> .pac file
[19:13] <koegs> faryshta: i would suggest looking at the pac file and read the proxy-address from it
[19:29] <faryshta> koegs: tried, not working
[19:32] <Liquidedge> Upgraded to 13.10 and now when I login, right after I put in the password, the screen just freezes.
[19:32] <Liquidedge> I can still get in to terminal, though.
[19:34] <Liquidedge> rm -rf /home/myhomedir/.cache/sessions doesn't solve it.
[19:40] <koegs> faryshta: what did you actually try?
[19:42] <faryshta> export http_proxy=http://XMA3209:noviembre@150.100.210.40:8080; sudo apt-get update
[19:46] <faryshta> koegs: do you see any error there?
[19:49] <koegs> faryshta: did you use the sudo comment on the website i gave you?
[19:49] <koegs> maybe it is better to use the "APT configuration file" method ;-)
[19:52] <faryshta> koegs: i am on liveusb
[19:52] <faryshta> so apt configuration file method might not be an option
[19:54] <koegs> then switch to root user with "sudo -i" and use the commands from above
[19:54] <faryshta> that worked. thanks koegs
[22:00] <Liquidedge> Upgraded to 13.10 and now when I login, right after I put in the password, the screen just freezes.
[22:00] <Liquidedge> I can still get in to terminal, though.
[22:17] <David-A> Liquidedge: are you familiar with the concept of moving away dot-files to solve some types of problems?
[22:18] <Liquidedge> rm -rf /home/myhomedir/.cache/sessions doesn't solve it.
[22:18] <Liquidedge> Is that the dot file you're talking about?
[22:18] <David-A> Liquidedge: thats one of them, but you could move away instead of remove, then you can move them back if it made no change.
[22:19] <Liquidedge> Okay.  Do you have suggestions on which ones?
[22:21] <David-A> Liquidedge: there is ~/.config/xfce4 with settings for various xfce programs
[22:21] <Liquidedge> Is there a video settings one?  I feel like maybe resetting those might help.
[22:25] <David-A> Liquidedge: is the problem system wide. can you login as another user? guest or other user you know the password of?
[22:25] <Liquidedge> Oh, good idea.
[22:25] <Liquidedge> let me check
[22:28] <Liquidedge> Whoa
[22:28] <Liquidedge> Yeah.  Can login as guest.
[22:29] <David-A> Liquidedge: do you have a customized ~/.xinitrc ?
[22:29] <Liquidedge> Not one I personally customized.  No.
[22:30] <David-A> Liquidedge: so, it seems it is a problem of finding the right dot-file to move away.
[22:32] <well_laid_lawn> it'll be in .cache or .config afaik
[22:37] <Liquidedge> One thing it didn't do in guest that it's trying to do under my login is change the resolution.
[22:38] <Liquidedge> Is there something around that I can move or rm?
[22:39] <well_laid_lawn> I'd move anything xfce related in ~/.config and ~/.cache
[22:41] <David-A> Liquidedge: and, may I remind you to move instead of remove, if you are not sure what is in the dir.
[22:41] <Liquidedge> Gotcha.
[22:41] <fonz> Hello anyone out there?
[22:42] <David-A> Liquidedge: (it is sad if google suggests to indiscrimately remove dot files, since some photo apps saves all your life's memories in dot-files)
[22:44] <David-A> Liquidedge: (on the other hand, they can loose their life's memories, if they are so lazy they don't have backups)
[22:44] <Liquidedge> Yeah, none of that stuff is on the main drive anyway.
[22:45] <fonz> Recently updated to 13.10 But now my power management settings are no longer respected. I like to keep my computer on with the lid closed but xubuntu just sets it as hibernating or sleep.
[22:50] <bingo_> hello. When Xubuntu updates come out how do i install them?
[22:51] <bingo_> Also, how may i get more screensavers?
[22:53] <David-A> bingo_: on question 1 I answer, in the Update Manager, there is a button on the top "New release bla bla available" and an "Upgrade"-button.
[22:53] <fonz> xubuntu update manager will let you know
[22:53] <bingo_> ok ty
[22:53] <mapps> hi folks
[22:54] <mapps> ive been messing about with squid trying to set it up..i installed from source anyway i was tryiong to run it with debug level 1 so i can see output but it says its already running
[22:54] <mapps> how can i see the process and kill it? cant see it listed in ps x
[22:54] <David-A> bingo_: on question 2 I answer: search for screensaver in the software center (I don't know if all will work)
[22:54] <mapps> noob question i know :D
[22:54] <bingo_> ty
[23:24] <dupin> at indicator plugin i can not control volume how can I fix that
[23:27] <dupin> any takers I know it is trivial but still
[23:29] <dupin> well,maybe some other time bye
[23:29]  * dupin is going to sleep