| shadeslayer | mamarley: but then if you use the "Report bug" button via an application it usually tells bugzilla the version number | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| shadeslayer | same goes for DrKonqi | 00:00 |
| mamarley | Another reason to see the version number: Maybe if the latest version isn't in the repository, I will go download a binary directly from the developer instead. | 00:01 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Dropping the version column is like shooting oneself in the feet | 00:14 |
| Quintasan | Any important reasons why we DON'T want it? | 00:15 |
| valorie | oops, paste=past above | 00:54 |
| ahoneybun | so 16:05 UTC is 11am in EST? | 02:07 |
| ahoneybun | hey valorie | 02:08 |
| ahoneybun | lordievader: hey | 02:13 |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1251140] KDE "display settings" control panel module displays empty window @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1251140 (by kolen) | 07:46 |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1251140] KDE "display settings" control panel module displays empty window @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1251140 (by kolen) | 08:48 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer, ScottK, Riddell: if I sysadmin a system I want to know what is being updated and why etc. if I am a cautious user I'd want to know all the more | 09:15 |
| apachelogger | generally speaking removing features to not have to fix bugs is a gnome mantra btw :P | 09:16 |
| apachelogger | ALSO as I pointed out time again to me it is confusing that muon-updater is used in combination with discover... -updater was created with a very techy target audience in mind (i.e. IIRC it was built together with muon which really targets the rather advanced user), so to me it seems odd that a techy updater would be used with a very !techy installer given that latter could just as well handle updates | 09:18 |
| Riddell | adding updates to discover would be the best thing to do | 09:23 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1251178] qdbus: could not exec '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qdbus': No such file or directory @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1251178 (by Mechanical snail) | 09:59 |
| parad1se | Riddell: Hi, I will able to test it to day. | 10:32 |
| Riddell | parad1se: great | 10:33 |
| parad1se | Riddell: :) thumbs up | 10:43 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1251178] qdbus and qdbusviewer crash with "No such file or directory" @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1251178 (by Mechanical snail) | 11:04 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 11:44 |
| soee | hi BluesKaj | 11:47 |
| BluesKaj | Hi soee | 11:48 |
| jussi | apachelogger: I think we need to make a "Commander Keen Linux" :D | 11:54 |
| apachelogger | jussi: I totally didn't get that :O | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | http://anonscm.debian.org/ is down? :( | 12:18 |
| Peace- | btw i have tried archlinux with kde ... omg what a bip | 12:19 |
| shadeslayer | bip | 12:20 |
| shadeslayer | An acronym for benzoylmethylecgonine (cocaine) originated by private school kids in the Chelsea district of New York City in late 2009 | 12:20 |
| Peace- | LOL | 12:20 |
| * Peace- wrong chat | 12:20 | |
| shadeslayer | No wonder they symlinked /usr/bin/python to python3 | 12:20 |
| shadeslayer | Peace-: so what exactly does bip mean? :) | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | in this context | 12:21 |
| Peace- | shit :D | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | aha | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | People keep raving about it in the office | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | I have yet to try it | 12:21 |
| Peace- | shadeslayer: you have not an installer | 12:22 |
| Peace- | everything from terminal | 12:22 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 12:22 |
| Peace- | before there was ncurses installer | 12:22 |
| Peace- | now nothing | 12:22 |
| Peace- | you need to use fdisk ect | 12:22 |
| Peace- | basically you need to do everything locale ect etc | 12:22 |
| Peace- | and for me there is nothing that adds to kubuntu | 12:23 |
| Peace- | the only thing you could say it is better it's the installation process , i mean of the packages | 12:23 |
| Peace- | that it's faster | 12:24 |
| Peace- | for me kubuntu >> archlinux +kde | 12:24 |
| shadeslayer | well faster is relative | 12:25 |
| shadeslayer | their packagemanagement is much more 'simpler' which is why it's 'faster' | 12:26 |
| shadeslayer | dpkg is so much more complex with it's various states and what not | 12:26 |
| Peace- | when you do pacman -S vlc for example | 12:26 |
| shadeslayer | I don't think pacman / yaourt / whatever has that | 12:26 |
| Peace- | it's faster than sudo apt-get install vlc | 12:26 |
| Peace- | but i mean i have an i7 .... | 12:26 |
| Peace- | so :D | 12:26 |
| shadeslayer | right, except that it's faster because it's just unpacking binaries onto disk :) | 12:27 |
| Peace- | infact | 12:27 |
| shadeslayer | doesn't do anything else afaik | 12:27 |
| apachelogger | that's what dpkg does | 12:27 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: but then dpkg also does things like prerm, preinst , etc etc for each package no? | 12:27 |
| apachelogger | the only difference there is dpkg syncs each file | 12:27 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: there are none for pvlc | 12:28 |
| shadeslayer | I see | 12:28 |
| shadeslayer | ( also, he was talking about vlc ) | 12:28 |
| apachelogger | s/p/ | 12:28 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: arch's vlc actually does more than ours postinstall | 12:29 |
| apachelogger | regenerates the entire plugin cache | 12:29 |
| shadeslayer | oh? | 12:29 |
| apachelogger | or so MS said | 12:29 |
| shadeslayer | o_o | 12:29 |
| apachelogger | apt-get install vlc and pacman -S vlc are almost exclusively IO bound | 12:29 |
| apachelogger | if you do both on a barbones system with only kernel and udev and whatever rubbish the system may need to run the I'd believe that apt-get is slower because it has more sophisticated package relationsships to consider when resolving the dep tree | 12:31 |
| apachelogger | ^ still not much btw | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | only the rpm thing is noticble slower :P | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | although I hear that has changed as well | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | so everything is fast | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | any observation in different fastness is either perceptional or I/O | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | ^ disk and net I/O | 12:34 |
| shadeslayer | though pacman does have the nice feature of parallel downloads | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | that only makes a difference if a server is slow :P | 12:38 |
| apachelogger | but what I just thought of, ubuntu uses a differen disk I/O scheduler | 12:38 |
| apachelogger | so that may make a difference on a HDD | 12:38 |
| apachelogger | on SSD it will definitely faster tho :P | 12:38 |
| mamarley | Just about everything is faster with an SSD, besides Eclipse. Eclipse is a gigantic pig, as usual. | 12:40 |
| apachelogger | nah | 12:41 |
| apachelogger | I mean pacman on stock arch vs. dpgk on stock kubuntu, dpkg I/O will outschedule pacman | 12:42 |
| apachelogger | because our default scheduler supposedly works more to the advantage of SSD | 12:42 |
| * Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2013/11/14/barcelona-kde-frameworks-dragons-and-kde-allotment | 12:55 | |
| apachelogger | wee | 12:56 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: I'm not sure what you want with the link to g+ on kubuntu.org, it's just a link isn't it? | 13:01 |
| Mamarok | they ask us to confirm the website is ours, else the profile is not complete | 13:04 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: who do? | 13:05 |
| Riddell | where? | 13:05 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: hmm I see | 13:05 |
| Mamarok | see my first mail | 13:05 |
| Riddell | "By adding a short line of code to http://www.kubuntu.org/community, you can make your Google+ page eligible to show up on the right hand side of the Google search page for relevant queries" | 13:05 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: do you want to do that or shall I? | 13:06 |
| Mamarok | I have no access to the website, that's why I sent the mail | 13:07 |
| Riddell | update done | 13:08 |
| Riddell | you can always ask for access to the website | 13:08 |
| Mamarok | oh well, I have enough on my plate right now, I might later | 13:09 |
| Mamarok | but thanks for teh poffer :) | 13:09 |
| Mamarok | the offer* | 13:09 |
| Mamarok | sorry, not my typing day :) | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | yofel: https://trello.com/c/u3O0f0tY | 13:28 |
| yofel | this is like too freaking fast -.- | 13:29 |
| yofel | and I have barely any time to do anything. | 13:29 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: where did you get with beta1? | 13:29 |
| Peace- | i love apachelogger images | 13:33 |
| Peace- | they are crazy , i like crazy people | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | yofel: too fast indeed, I shall schedule help for b3 | 13:35 |
| yofel | \o/ | 13:36 |
| Riddell | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-munich | 13:38 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon. | 15:24 |
| Riddell | hi lordievader | 15:25 |
| lordievader | Hey Riddell, how are you doing today? | 15:26 |
| Riddell | feeling good thanks lordievader | 15:28 |
| === greyback is now known as greyback|away | ||
| shadeslayer | ughhh | 16:33 |
| Riddell | ? | 16:34 |
| * ovidiu-florin thinks shadeslayer hit himself with a bug | 16:34 | |
| shadeslayer | no | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | I did not remove kde-workspace-dev from kdesc-dev-latest-trusty.txt | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | so now things are waiting on kde-workspace-dev >= 4.11.80 | 16:35 |
| Riddell | boom | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer | which will never happen | 16:35 |
| Riddell | I just make a copy of the .txt and remove the packages that are already done and start again | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, I need to do a complete rebuild once I fix everything | 16:36 |
| * shadeslayer is tired of doing 4.12 alone | 16:36 | |
| ovidiu-florin | shadeslayer: package building? | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.80_trusty.html | 16:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | teach me how and I'll help | 16:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | I've started reading on debian packaging | 16:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | from the debian wiki | 16:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | but that might take some time | 16:39 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ^^ plz give him access to Ninjas | 16:39 |
| * Riddell looks | 16:39 | |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: plz branch kubuntu-autmation from wherever it lives | 16:40 |
| Riddell | "Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan (ovidiub13) has been added as a member of this team." | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | lp:~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation I think | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: do you have a pbuilder setup? | 16:41 |
| Riddell | hmm we need to update lintian on that server, too many "bad-distribution-in-changes-file trusty" | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I think that's the lintian from the build server | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | so lintian in trusty needs to be updated | 16:41 |
| * Riddell updates ./vendors/ubuntu/main/data/changes-file/known-dists | 16:43 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: oh yeah | 16:43 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: well it can be added as an ignore in kubuntu-automation | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 16:44 |
| ovidiu-florin | did I miss something? | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: not really | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | anyway | 16:49 |
| ovidiu-florin | was anything said after Riddell looks? | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: plz branch kubuntu-autmation from wherever it lives | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | <shadeslayer> lp:~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation I think | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | and you've been added to http://pad.lv/~kubuntu-ninjas | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: which means you can open <shadeslayer> lp:~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation I think | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/5222594/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.kdepim_4%3A4.11.80-0ubuntu1%7Eubuntu14.04%7Eppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 16:51 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: ^^ can you open that link? | 16:53 |
| ovidiu-florin | No Such Resource | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: don't use Chrome :P | 16:53 |
| ovidiu-florin | oh | 16:53 |
| ovidiu-florin | why? | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | chrome is bugged | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | I use FF | 16:54 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok | 16:54 |
| ovidiu-florin | I see it now | 16:54 |
| ovidiu-florin | what am I looking at? | 16:54 |
| apachelogger | actually launchpad is bugged | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | cool, see the end of the log where it says QJSON not found | 16:54 |
| apachelogger | btw | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: well, either way, one of those is bugged :D | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | IIRC rekonq also has problems | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | that being said only firefox works | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | and they only support firefox | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | ... | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer | really? I thought it worked in rekonq, but *shrug* | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: do you see that error? | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer | hurray | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer | 4.12.90 tagged and tar'd | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | and I'm not even done with 4.12.80 | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell has put on sleepy music and I'm sleepy now | 16:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | shadeslayer: I see the error | 16:58 |
| ovidiu-florin | what should I do about it? | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: cool, so basically, kdepim has a new build-dep on libqjson-dev, do you have kubuntu-automation branched? | 16:59 |
| ovidiu-florin | no. | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | plz branch kubuntu-autmation then | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation | 17:00 |
| Riddell | 4.12 beta 2 tars now up! | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer | yeah I know :( | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer | I want to finish https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas first | 17:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | I don't know what that is | 17:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | :( | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer | so that atleast with 4.12.90 no package is left behind | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: it's a branch with our automation tools, just run bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation in a terminal | 17:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok | 17:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | I have to change location. I'll be back in a few minutes | 17:02 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 17:02 |
| === greyback|away is now known as greyback | ||
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| ovidiu-florin | shadeslayer: should I do this in a virtual machine? | 17:38 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 17:39 |
| shadeslayer | just need a pbuilder | 17:39 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: put http://paste.kde.org/p93dd9d8d in ~/.pbuilderrc | 17:39 |
| shadeslayer | then do : bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-packagers/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks/ .pbuilder-hooks | 17:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | should I read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto first? | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | then do : sudo -E DIST=trusty pbuilder create --debootstrapopts --variant=buildd | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: yep, reading that gives you a good idea | 17:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | but that can be done later on as well :) | 17:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | what does sudo -E DIST=trusty pbuilder create --debootstrapopts --variant=buildd do? | 17:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | shadeslayer: ^ | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | it will create a chroot that is tar'd and saved for future use | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | so that you can use it to build packages | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | it mimics the build daemon on Launchpad | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | but locally, so you can test build packages before uploading | 17:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | where locally will it store it? | 17:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | shadeslayer: ^ | 18:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | done | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | /var/cache/pbuilder/trusty-amd64 | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | just /var/cache/pbuilder actually | 18:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | yeah | 18:03 |
| ovidiu-florin | I have some stuff in there | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | now, kdepim has alot more problems | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | so lemme check for something simpler | 18:04 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: okay so, open https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/5215582/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.knavalbattle_4%3A4.11.80-0ubuntu1%7Eubuntu14.04%7Eppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | you can see at the end it fails because it can't find a file to install | 18:05 |
| ovidiu-florin | kbattleship | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | presumably because it's been renamed to knavalbattle instead of kbattleship | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | ( see preceeding lines, the ones starting with Installing: ) | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: with me so far? | 18:06 |
| ovidiu-florin | yes | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | cool, did you branch kubuntu-automation? | 18:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | I ran the 2 commands you've sent me | 18:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | but I'm not sure what the first one did | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | alright, plz cd into the kubuntu-automation dir | 18:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | there? now run this command : export PATH=$PWD:$PATH | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | we're adding the kubuntu-automation tools to our path so that we can use them without having to type ./whatever everytime :) | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | oh hmm, you probably also don't have kubuntu-dev-tools | 18:10 |
| ovidiu-florin | I understood the PATH part | 18:10 |
| ovidiu-florin | no I don't | 18:10 |
| ovidiu-florin | bzr again? | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | bzr branch lp:kubuntu-dev-tools | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | then : cd kubuntu-dev-tools | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | then : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dev-tools | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | ping me once that's done ^^ | 18:11 |
| ovidiu-florin | shadeslayer: done. will you still be able to teach in a couple of hours? I just got some guests that I have to attend to. | 18:15 |
| shadeslayer | not really no | 18:15 |
| ovidiu-florin | :( | 18:15 |
| shadeslayer | I'm going to leave within the hour I think | 18:15 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: we can continue tomorrow :) | 18:15 |
| ovidiu-florin | then, can you please levea me here some instructions to follow? | 18:15 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 18:16 |
| ovidiu-florin | and I'll catch up with some reading untill tomorrow | 18:16 |
| ovidiu-florin | thanks | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417142/ | 18:24 |
| parad1se_ | Riddell: My result with proposes repo and kde-runtime: http://pastebin.com/VrKw67Ns | 18:55 |
| parad1se_ | proposed | 18:55 |
| shadeslayer | parad1se_: would be nice to have it in english :) | 18:55 |
| shadeslayer | I think you want sudo -E LANG=C or sth like that | 18:55 |
| shadeslayer | then followed by the command | 18:56 |
| parad1se_ | OK, wait I try to remove it and install again. ^^ | 18:56 |
| Riddell | parad1se_: that's fine | 18:56 |
| Riddell | parad1se_: this is testing the samba patch? | 18:57 |
| * shadeslayer would like to jump off a building after looking at kdepim | 18:57 | |
| * jalcine coaxes shadeslayer to stay with a ton of cake | 18:57 | |
| shadeslayer | mmm cake | 18:58 |
| Riddell | parad1se_: just comment you tested the packages from -proposed and they work on bug 1071453 | 18:58 |
| ubottu | bug 1071453 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu Precise) "Dolphin doesn't store samba share password" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071453 | 18:58 |
| jalcine | shadeslayer: what's daunting about it, though? | 19:00 |
| * jalcine looks for an opporunity to assist. | 19:00 | |
| shadeslayer | jalcine: too many new files, too many things broken in 4.12.80 | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | my head hurts | 19:00 |
| Riddell | jalcine: ooh want to help out packaging? | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 19:01 |
| jalcine | Riddell: sure | 19:01 |
| Riddell | jalcine: know anything about it or starting from scratch? | 19:01 |
| jalcine | I've made a few packages by hand. | 19:02 |
| jalcine | Bit more of a dh_make-r kind of guy. | 19:02 |
| jalcine | so intermediacy. | 19:02 |
| Riddell | that's the best way to do new packages | 19:02 |
| Riddell | but here shadeslayer is talking about updating for a new version | 19:03 |
| jalcine | updating a package would partially deal with an iterative patch, no? | 19:04 |
| jalcine | the only package I've ever done that for was libxcb so I could get sddm building on Ubuntu | 19:04 |
| * jalcine looks for link | 19:05 | |
| Riddell | jalcine: want me to take you thought a simple one? | 19:05 |
| Riddell | jalcine: want me to take you through a simple one? | 19:05 |
| jalcine | sure | 19:05 |
| parad1se_ | Riddell: Now I got it: http://pastebin.com/cnf29Jzs :) | 19:05 |
| Riddell | jalcine: here's our status page http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.80_trusty.html | 19:05 |
| Riddell | parad1se_: ah but do they run successfully? | 19:06 |
| Riddell | jalcine: konsole looks like an easy one | 19:06 |
| parad1se_ | Riddell: OK. | 19:06 |
| parad1se_ | Riddell: without kde-runtime-dbg, yes, works fine. | 19:07 |
| Riddell | parad1se_: great, please say so on the bug | 19:07 |
| parad1se_ | parad1se_: ok. | 19:08 |
| parad1se_ | Riddell: ok | 19:08 |
| jalcine | Riddell: so I'm pulling sources from git or repackaging (apt-get source)? | 19:08 |
| Riddell | jalcine: bzr and repackaging :) | 19:09 |
| jalcine | alrighty | 19:09 |
| Riddell | jalcine: I just /msged you the sources.list line | 19:09 |
| Riddell | you can add just the deb-src one for now, it's not yet ready to install I guess | 19:09 |
| Riddell | then apt-get source konsole so you'll get the 4.11.80 package | 19:09 |
| jalcine | sweet, I'm on it | 19:11 |
| Riddell | jalcine: do you see what needs done? | 19:13 |
| jalcine | still pulling sources now but just ensuring that the deb package builds with the new sources | 19:14 |
| Riddell | it might well need kdelibs from ninjas to build | 19:14 |
| jalcine | hm, so I'd have to wait for kdelibs to build | 19:17 |
| jalcine | looks like from the status page it just started | 19:17 |
| Riddell | jalcine: there will already be packages | 19:17 |
| Riddell | jalcine: but also you don't need to compile konsole locally, you can just fix the packaging and upload to kubuntu-ninjas PPA | 19:17 |
| jalcine | ah, yeah, just saw it, spoke too soon haha | 19:17 |
| jalcine | alrighty | 19:18 |
| jalcine | right, so I'm glancing at the packaging; is it the versioning that's off and I would have to fix? or I'm missing it? | 19:20 |
| Riddell | jalcine: look in http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.80_trusty.html | 19:21 |
| jalcine | the changelog goes from 11.2 to 11.80 | 19:21 |
| Riddell | jalcine: that's fine, 4.11.80 is the beta of 4.12 | 19:21 |
| Riddell | that's the versioning used by upstreanm | 19:21 |
| Riddell | jalcine: on the build status page look at konsole, it's red! | 19:21 |
| jalcine | ahhh for i386 | 19:21 |
| Riddell | click show/hide and it'll show you why | 19:21 |
| jalcine | gotcha | 19:22 |
| Riddell | jalcine: a missing file! | 19:22 |
| jalcine | Gotcha; updated 'konsole.install' | 19:22 |
| Riddell | jalcine: lovely, add a changelog entry if you want to claim the glory and send me the new source package | 19:23 |
| jalcine | on it | 19:23 |
| jalcine | dch -i would be the safest way | 19:24 |
| yofel | no -i | 19:24 |
| Riddell | right leave out the -i as it already has an entry for this version number | 19:25 |
| yofel | the new version is already there, just run 'dch' to edit the UNRELEASED entry | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | or you know | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | dch --release | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 19:25 |
| jalcine | alrighty | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | and then edit to your hearts content | 19:25 |
| yofel | doesn't -r set the release name? | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | I thought it was -d or sth | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | no, -d is fromdirname | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | -D | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | load average: 17,49, 14,17, 9,67 | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer | wheee | 19:27 |
| yofel | dch got confusing with the new behaviour. Though it's really nice with bzr/git | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer | dunno, I always used dch --release and -D | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | like for the last year | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | I always use debcommit -R -r | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | because I'm cool ya know | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: order beer | 19:29 |
| * kubotu gives apachelogger a nice frosty mug of beer. | 19:29 | |
| apachelogger | yay | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | virtual beer | 19:29 |
| Riddell | parad1se_: how's it going? | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | heh :) | 19:29 |
| yofel | kubotu: order tea | 19:29 |
| * kubotu gives yofel a nice hot cup of tea. | 19:29 | |
| yofel | mmmmh :) | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | gross | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | kubotu: order Cacaolat | 19:30 |
| * kubotu slides cacaolat down the bar to shadeslayer | 19:30 | |
| jalcine | I used dch --release | 19:31 |
| jalcine | Riddell: how should I send it to you? | 19:31 |
| jalcine | via IRC? lol | 19:31 |
| * jalcine notes he didn't sign because pinentry-kwallet is a bit buggy | 19:31 | |
| Riddell | jalcine: you don't need to sign | 19:32 |
| jalcine | cool | 19:32 |
| Riddell | jalcine: put on a web server somewhere? | 19:32 |
| jalcine | alrighty | 19:32 |
| apachelogger | sometimes internet research can take night forever | 19:34 |
| apachelogger | yofel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmM4whoTbGc best ontopic reference material I found | 19:34 |
| yofel | lol | 19:36 |
| Riddell | jalcine: how are you getting on? | 19:42 |
| jalcine | Riddell: was going to set up an FTP server to serve files but blergh | 19:45 |
| shadeslayer | python -m SimpleHTTPServer is your friend | 19:45 |
| jalcine | \o/ | 19:46 |
| Riddell | jalcine: dropbox or google drive are more fashionable these days :) | 19:46 |
| Riddell | you could also e-mail them | 19:46 |
| Riddell | or put on a bug report | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | or push to bzr | 19:46 |
| jalcine | http://jackyalcine.com:8000/ | 19:48 |
| Riddell | jalcine: no .orig ? | 19:50 |
| jalcine | should be there now | 19:51 |
| jalcine | I did a konsole_4.11.80-0ubuntu1.* scp | 19:51 |
| Riddell | jalcine: groovy uploading | 19:53 |
| Riddell | jalcine: are you set up to commit to bzr on launchpad? | 19:53 |
| jalcine | yu | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | jalcine: handy command : dcmd cp foo.changes | 19:53 |
| jalcine | *yup | 19:53 |
| * Riddell coughs as he uploads it to ubuntu by mistake | 19:54 | |
| shadeslayer | noooo :D | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | I wonder how that'll play with the scripts | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | I also think I have some differing changelogs between bzr and the ninjas ppa | 19:55 |
| Riddell | jalcine: I added you to ~kubuntu-packagers, please add your change to lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/konsole | 19:56 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: does the script only bump versions for Build-Deps? | 19:56 |
| yofel | no | 19:56 |
| shadeslayer | or does it bump versions on Depends as well | 19:56 |
| shadeslayer | okay that's a screwy situation then ... lets see what happens | 19:56 |
| yofel | it does a simple regex replace - I would appreciate something more intelligent ;P | 19:56 |
| yofel | why? | 19:57 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 19:57 |
| jalcine | Riddell: bzr push | 19:57 |
| jalcine | ? | 19:57 |
| jalcine | just dblchecking | 19:57 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: because I uploaded without taking out kde-workspace from the -dev.txt file | 19:57 |
| shadeslayer | kdeartworki386 logfile Dependency wait: kde-workspace-dev >= 4:4.11.80 libkexiv2-dev >= 4:4.11.80 | 19:57 |
| shadeslayer | causing things like ^ | 19:57 |
| Riddell | jalcine: yes assuming you did bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/konsole and have done a commit | 19:57 |
| yofel | so? | 19:57 |
| jalcine | cool | 19:57 |
| yofel | aaaaah | 19:57 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: and I was wondering if a package has a Depends on kde-runtime | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | what happens in that case | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | kde-workspace I mean | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | does it get bumped to 4.11.80 as well? because we won't have a 4.12 kde-workspace | 19:58 |
| snele | guys since latest plasma-nm updates I get non-plasma notification on startup http://www.dodaj.rs/f/2k/5k/46Oqz1Gj/snapshot6.png | 19:58 |
| snele | is it a known bug? | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | not really, trusty seems to be working | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: any news from Nim? | 19:59 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: nope but probably about time to go and see what's cooking | 19:59 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: how ready are you to go? | 19:59 |
| shadeslayer | ready for the last 15 mins :) | 20:00 |
| shadeslayer | stomach is rumbling :D | 20:00 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: according to rdepends, only kde-sc-dev-latest depends on it, that might need hardcoding 4.11 instead of the current subst | 20:00 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ok get these catalunians together and we'll go | 20:00 |
| yofel | s/depends/breaks/ | 20:00 |
| kubotu | yofel meant: "shadeslayer: according to rbreaks, only kde-sc-dev-latest depends on it, that might need hardcoding 4.11 instead of the current subst" | 20:00 |
| yofel | -.- | 20:00 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 20:01 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | Marble done | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | as soon as "We are the Champions" starts playing | 20:02 |
| Riddell | jalcine: I'm off for food, if you get stuck you can try asking yofel or others, lots more packages to fix now you know how :) | 20:03 |
| jalcine | I'm about to run for the same in 10 | 20:03 |
| jalcine | but thanks and I'm here for it | 20:03 |
| Riddell | jalcine: you're welcome back here any time | 20:03 |
| parad1se_ | Riddell: Everything is fine. Iam celebrating the use of samba entry and remember function in dolphin :) Just clicking arround ^^ xD How are you? Results are posted in Bug #1071453. | 20:17 |
| ubottu | bug 1071453 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu Precise) "Dolphin doesn't store samba share password" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071453 | 20:17 |
| jalcine | how long does it take for the status page to update? | 20:26 |
| yofel | it fetches data from launchpad ever 5min. It only shows data for published packages though so new uploads are shown with a delay | 20:27 |
| soee | 4.11.80 is beta1 ? | 20:55 |
| soee | or beta2 ? | 20:55 |
| yofel | soee: ^ | 20:58 |
| yofel | meh, 1 | 20:58 |
| soee | yofel, so why not WIP on beta2 already ? :) | 21:00 |
| yofel | soee: because something will probably be messed up then. Better to first finish beta1 and have (probably) less work for beta2 | 21:00 |
| soee | ah ok, thank you for info | 21:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | shadeslayer: are you still here? | 21:23 |
| ovidiu-florin | can someone please clarifi something to me about kubuntu-dev-tools? | 21:29 |
| ovidiu-florin | what's the difference between the version installed with apt and the version from lp:kubuntu-dev-tools ? | 21:30 |
| yofel | ovidiu-florin: if you got the apt version from ppa:bulldog98/kubuntu-dev-tools, none. Otherwise lp:kubuntu-dev-tools is the development bzr branch | 21:52 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: I didn't use any special ppa | 21:52 |
| ovidiu-florin | just the default repo | 21:52 |
| yofel | uh, I don't see a version of kubuntu-dev-tools in a recent release | 21:53 |
| yofel | what does apt-cache policy say? | 21:53 |
| ovidiu-florin | ah, sorry | 21:53 |
| ovidiu-florin | I installed ubuntu-dev-tools with apt | 21:54 |
| * yofel makes a new recipe as bulldog is MIA and his recipe only builds for raring :/ | 21:54 | |
| yofel | ah, kubuntu-dev-tools != ubuntu-dev-tools. You generally want both for kubuntu :) | 21:54 |
| ovidiu-florin | so I guess the kubuntu-dev-tools bring more specific stuff for KDE/Kubuntu and the ubuntu-dev-tools brings the base stuff | 21:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | right? | 21:55 |
| yofel | pretty much | 21:55 |
| yofel | apachelogger: where would you put builds for https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+recipe/kubuntu-dev-tools ? For now I put them in kubuntu-ppa/ppa as they break nothing and are the only packaged version we have. Would it make more sense to make a kubuntu-ninjas/kubuntu-dev-tools though? | 22:03 |
| * yofel doesn't want to randomly create and delete ppa's | 22:04 | |
| apachelogger | yofel: uhm, dunno, why build it at all? :P | 22:04 |
| apachelogger | has like 3 dependencies and no actual binaries | 22:04 |
| yofel | convenience :P | 22:05 |
| apachelogger | yofel: just keep em in kubuntu-ppa I guess | 22:06 |
| apachelogger | seems most convenient anyway | 22:06 |
| apachelogger | (vs having to add another ppa just for the tools) | 22:06 |
| yofel | ack | 22:06 |
| apachelogger | because that at point you might as well run dpkg-buildpackage xD | 22:06 |
| yofel | right.. | 22:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | can anyone please explain the step at line 28 from here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417142/ ? | 22:46 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm not sure what to do | 22:46 |
| ovidiu-florin | Do I have to get the lines for kubuntu ninjas? | 22:46 |
| apachelogger | ovidiu-florin: yes | 22:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | thank you | 23:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | apachelogger: for trusty, I guess, right? | 23:03 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 23:03 |
| ovidiu-florin | I've added them and then ran apt-get update | 23:04 |
| ovidiu-florin | and it sayd that it failed to fetch | 23:04 |
| apachelogger | if you are makign a trusty pbuilder anyway ;) | 23:04 |
| ovidiu-florin | said* | 23:04 |
| apachelogger | ovidiu-florin: then you did something wrong I guess | 23:05 |
| apachelogger | there definitely are packages for trusty in the ppa | 23:05 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'll read more about pbuilder and ask shadeslayer tommorow | 23:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | thank you | 23:07 |
| shadeslayer | bah, I left my power adapter at the office | 23:34 |
| apachelogger | gj | 23:35 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: install ca-certificates | 23:36 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer, Riddell: did you get a bot control set up? | 23:37 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: bot control for? | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | for music | 23:38 |
| Riddell | no i didn't | 23:38 |
| shadeslayer | ah, dunno, Riddell was in control of it for most of the time | 23:38 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: did you find your power cable? | 23:38 |
| shadeslayer | I didn't find it at my place | 23:38 |
| Riddell | i gave you the cable | 23:38 |
| Riddell | yeh power cable | 23:39 |
| shadeslayer | no, *power cable* | 23:39 |
| shadeslayer | for your laptop | 23:39 |
| Riddell | yeah speaker cable | 23:39 |
| apachelogger | ur drunk, go to bed :P | 23:39 |
| Riddell | sorry actually it's nim typing - non posh school= fr less literate | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | heya xD | 23:40 |
| shadeslayer | stop covering up the fact that you had too much whiskey at the parteh | 23:40 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | omomg | 23:41 |
| apachelogger | he spelled it whiskey | 23:41 |
| * apachelogger waits for fallout | 23:41 | |
| Riddell | i'm frnkly just confused by omomg | 23:41 |
| Riddell | like wtf | 23:41 |
| shadeslayer | Whisky | 23:41 |
| apachelogger | <- also not sober | 23:41 |
| Riddell | Riddel doesn't think he's drunk | 23:42 |
| Riddell | that's just british folk loosening up | 23:42 |
| apachelogger | sounds jolly drunk to me then | 23:42 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 23:42 |
| Riddell | no it's really not | 23:43 |
| Riddell | can still remember where i live and what i'm supposed to be doing | 23:44 |
| apachelogger | mh, boring | 23:48 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
