[00:00] <megadeath> i used to  deluge for torrents
[00:00] <reisio> megadeath: apt-cache search gift
[00:01] <reisio> or s/gift/torrent/ for torrenting apps
[00:02] <megadeath> thanks, i will try gift or may be wine too
[00:02] <reisio> no need for wine
[00:03] <megadeath> yes but i can use wine with ares
[00:03] <uncle_ben> i'm trying to get ario to play music cds and apparently, i need the cdio_paranoia plugin, but google isn't being my friend
[00:04] <megadeath> i used to groveshark for download but it not supported anymore
[00:12] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. anyone any ideas on why the alt tab would skip the terminator console ?
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, You using the terminator from the repos?
[00:15] <Vivekananda> I believe so
[00:15] <Vivekananda> let me check
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> that would be my only comment I have not used it nor do I use unity
[00:16] <Vivekananda> yep I am
[00:16] <Vivekananda> wilee-nilee: what do you use  ?
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, the gnome shell
[00:17] <Vivekananda> also while we are on the topic tell me how to get one of those sci fi movie themes on the desktop
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> with synapse and the cairo-dock
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, Themes I have never messed with I see to many people with problems associated.
[00:17] <Vivekananda> are those themes even true or just make believe. I mean all black background and those cli interfaces with everything black
[00:18] <somsip> Vivekananda: look at tiling window managers like awesome and dwm
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> I have noticed a correlation with theme wanting and new users and confusion, hehe
[00:19] <dustinspringman> whats up fellas! upgraded to 13.10 and now my second monitor is detected under displays, but i get no video... intel sandybridge drivers appear to be installed and working properly... i've googled every thread and am 4 pages deep now with no luck.... thoughts?
[00:21] <dustinspringman> FTR, it worked on 12.04 before I upgraded.. =/
[00:21] <dustinspringman> no changes at all other than software upgrade...
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> dustinspringman, My thoughts why the upgrade from a OS that has 5 years support.
[00:21] <dustinspringman> glxgears and glxspheres are rendering proper... where should I look?
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> 14.04 is the next lt
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> I would have dual booted 13.10 to see if it worked myself
[00:23] <wolfspy> hello
[00:23] <wolfspy> Should I replace windows with ubuntu?
[00:23] <dustinspringman> wilee-nilee: it was sorta by accident... I updated to the 2.8 kernel on 12.04 and it broke a bunch of stuff.... so I just kept upgrading... 13.10 is working well so far, the only issue I have is my second monitor (vizio 26" screen conneted via mini displayport) shows up in displays.. but no signal is all i get
[00:23] <wolfspy> I basically use ubuntu for everything, and windows just takes up disk space
[00:23] <wolfspy> im dual booting
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> wolfspy, That is your decision tis is not a polling channel.
[00:24] <dustinspringman> wilee-nilee: any ideas on what config file I can look at to determine why my monitor is detected but gets no video signal?
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> dustinspringman, Not really never messed with that graphic setup.
[00:25] <bekks> dustinspringman: which graphics card do you have?
[00:25] <dustinspringman> bekks: its an optimus... but i don't ever use the nvidia gpu (at all) in 12.04 this worked well.. Intel SandyBridge (HD 3000 I think)...
[00:26] <oaulakh> how apply swap partition in ubuntu
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, apply?
[00:27] <dustinspringman> bekks: the intel gpu is giving me 68+ FPS on GLX tests.. on my laptop screen works great... but my 26" connected to mini-displayport is seen in "displays" but no amount of clicking will restore its video signal..
[00:27] <oaulakh> helo wilee-nilee
[00:27] <oaulakh> yeah man apply
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> make or mount oaulakh
[00:27] <oaulakh> first when i intsall ubuntu
[00:27] <bekks> dustinspringman: then I am out of clues, since I only use nvidia on non-optimus systems.
[00:27] <oaulakh> i did'nt provide swap drive
[00:28] <oaulakh> but now i made it with gparted
[00:28] <wolfspy> Oh, and why does my Intel intergrated graphics cpu preform much better in ubuntu?
[00:28] <Vivekananda> wilee-nilee: In the movies and tv shows you see geeks and hackers using all black layouts and stuff but I dont know if all that is make believe or is it something acutualy possible in a ubuntu desktop
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, You can make a swap with gparted, make sure you are within partition types and the limitations, and you have a unallocated space. There is a swap file option as well.
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, easily possible, if you know how, the desktops are just a bit tightlt woven together us all, you have to know how to deal with those limitations
[00:29] <oaulakh> swap file option where?
[00:29] <bekks> !swap
[00:29] <somsip> Vivekananda: look at tiling window managers like awesome and dwm
[00:29] <oaulakh> i just make my /dev/sda2 drive to swap
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, /dev/sda2 is a partiton not drive, can you pastebin a screenshot of gparted, which may need to be installed.
[00:30] <Aikar> any recommendations to get around "Could not calculate update" Have quite a few packages with Broken status in apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6413489/
[00:31] <oaulakh> but i dunno how i integerate it with ubuntu system
[00:31] <wolfspy> anyone?
[00:31] <somsip> !swapon | oaulakh
[00:31] <Rax2323> join #freakshow
[00:31] <somsip> !info swapon
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, integrate what?
[00:31] <bekks> oaulakh: Then just take a look at the FAQ you just got a link for.
[00:31] <Rax2323> #freakshow
[00:31] <bekks> !swap | somsip
[00:32] <somsip> bekks: scrolled up and saw it, thanks :)
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> wolfspy, Itel supports open source with actual drivers.
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> Intel*
[00:33] <wolfspy> but games run at 20 more fps
[00:33] <wolfspy> It shouldent make that much of a differance
[00:33] <bekks> why not?
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> wolfspy, This is support not discussion, do you have a support issue?
[00:34] <bekks> wolfspy: We have no clue about what windows actually does regarding drivers, so just take it as it is.
[00:34] <wolfspy> no
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> some discussion is okay, just not the default all the time, and to go on and on.
[00:35] <wolfspy> oh, I actually do have a 'real' question
[00:35] <wolfspy> why does the system monineter use a lot of cpu?
[00:36] <Ari-Yang> wolfspy: use htop
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> its a gui I suspect
[00:36] <Ari-Yang> !htop | wolfspy
[00:36] <Ari-Yang> erm
[00:36] <Ari-Yang> wolfspy: sudo apt-get htop
[00:36] <wolfspy> ok
[00:36] <Ari-Yang> hmmm
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> just a guess though
[00:37] <Ari-Yang> I had to run fsck on my laptop (looked like bad sectors)... I'm thinking about doing a fresh install of ubuntu 13.10
[00:37] <Ari-Yang> think it would be okay?
[00:37] <Ari-Yang> like
[00:37] <bekks> Ari-Yang: Why dont you just run fsck?
[00:37] <Ari-Yang> would I end up having to run fsck again?
[00:38] <bekks> Ari-Yang: And a reinstall will not magically heal bad sectors.
[00:38] <Ari-Yang> bekks: I /did/ run fsck... everything seems fine... what I'm asking is if I do a fresh install, would I have to run fsck again?
[00:38] <Ari-Yang> bekks: I know that....
[00:38] <Vivekananda> somsip: thanks. I will look at the tiling things but the question is will they remove a lot of the functionality that is available here with gnome. Two of the most frequently used by me are the alt tab and the worspace switcher. I wonder how I can do that for the tiling thing
[00:38] <Ari-Yang> like will ubuntu "remember" the bad sectors it dealt with when I ran it
[00:38] <Ari-Yang> or would I have to probably run it again?
[00:38] <bekks> Ari-Yang: Then run fsck -f and you will be at the same point as you would be after a reinstall.
[00:39] <Vivekananda> I used kupfer for lubuntu earlier and that was pretty helpful to switch but I was wondering how the same things are achieved in the tiling systems
[00:39] <Ari-Yang> bekks: what does -f do?
[00:39]  * ianorlin can see more use in wifi in a autoshop
[00:39] <bekks> Ari-Yang: It forces a full fsck on a fs marked as clean.
[00:39] <bekks> Ari-Yang: fsck -f actually /does/ a fsck.
[00:39] <ianorlin> crud wrong channel
[00:39] <Ari-Yang> oh
[00:39] <Ari-Yang> thanks
[00:40] <dustinspringman> bekks: thanks for trying at least..
[00:40] <uncle_ben> i'm trying to get ario to play music cds and apparently, i need the cdio_paranoia plugin, but it's not listed in the plugins menu and google turns up nothing...i'm using ario 1.5.1
[00:40] <Ari-Yang> well before I think about doing a fresh install... I'll have to back stuff up first and whatever configs I want that are in my ~
[00:41] <bekks> Ari-Yang: Just run fsck -f
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> uncle_ben, What ubuntu release?
[00:41] <bekks> Ari-Yang: or run "badblocks" (look at the man page first) to see wether you actually /have/ bad sectors.
[00:41] <Aikar> any recommendations to get around "Could not calculate update" Have quite a few packages with Broken status in apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6413489/
[00:42] <oaulakh> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uwgdf4v8agu7ums/Screenshot%20-%20Thursday%2014%20November%202013%20-%2006%3A02%3A34%20%20IST.png
[00:42] <oaulakh> how i make swap disk as default swap
[00:42] <Ari-Yang> bekks: does this not look like bad sectors? http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/35238191
[00:43] <bekks> oaulakh: By reading the link ubottu gave you when you asked the first time.
[00:43] <Ari-Yang> bekks: that was the 2nd time I had to run it (2 weeks ago)
[00:43] <Ari-Yang> bekks: that log is me running fsck while on livecd (usb)
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, You can mount it from gparted and make sure your fstab has it.
[00:43] <bekks> Ari-Yang: That are filesytem errors, no sign of bad sectors so far.
[00:43] <oaulakh> fstab what it means?
[00:43] <Ari-Yang> bekks: though I don't have the log the first time I ran it :V
[00:43] <reisio> man fstab
[00:44] <Ari-Yang> bekks: thanks for your info~
[00:44] <bekks> Ari-Yang: Oh, error reading block... you should create a backup, investigate the issue, and replace the disk.
[00:44] <bekks> !fstab | oaulakh
[00:44] <DJJeff> there is a program called "baobab" or "Disk Usage Analyzer" how do I put in a SSH address to scan?
[00:44] <Ari-Yang> bekks: yeah I would replace the disk if I could :/
[00:44] <bekks> DJJeff: you cant.
[00:44] <Ari-Yang> I just have to make sure I have stuff backed up
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, here is my fstab swap line with my uuid, sudo blkid will tell you yours, and read the links you have been given.   UUID=6302c200-bbce-413c-a99d-83bb8abd4317 none            swap    sw              0       0
[00:45] <DJJeff> bekks: why not.
[00:45] <racho> Aikar, have you tried disabling ppas?
[00:45] <bekks> DJJeff: because baobab doesnt support that.
[00:45] <DJJeff> bekks: it does have the option to "REMOTE SCAN"
[00:45] <DJJeff> bekks: is SSH not remote?
[00:46] <bekks> DJJeff: just log in using ssh and run "df -h"
[00:46] <DJJeff> bekks: I do remember earlier versions of Ubuntu I was able to SSH Scan
[00:46] <DJJeff> bekks: "df -h" is not a GUI
[00:46] <bekks> DJJeff: I know. Thats exactly why I recommend using df -h
[00:47] <oaulakh> thanks i done it
[00:47] <oaulakh> it was easy
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> !yay | paulus68
[00:47] <DJJeff> bekks: time to boot up earlier Ubuntu in a VM to get this to work, thanks anyways
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> paulus68, sorry paulus68
[00:47] <spitboxer> what package adds the commandline tool "deb" for adding sources?
[00:47] <oaulakh> just right click on swap partition in gparted and select swapon
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> !yay > oaulakh
[00:48] <spitboxer> heh... i just installed irssi and im in console mode cuz of broken ATI drivers
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, You add it to the fstab so it is always on?
[00:48] <spitboxer> and alt-arrows changes my console tty, how can I disable this?!?
[00:48] <spitboxer> wtf
[00:48] <oaulakh> thanks wilee-nilee
[00:48] <spitboxer> haha
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> spitboxer, Please no swearing or acronyms of.
[00:49] <Ari-Yang> spitboxer: which drivers are you using? fglrx?
[00:49] <Ari-Yang> that caused the thing to break
[00:49] <oaulakh> any best backup craetor for ubuntu
[00:49] <spitboxer> Ari-Yang: yeah, fglrx and fglrx-update
[00:49] <spitboxer> neither work
[00:50] <Ari-Yang> spitboxer: yeah, go figure. You're taking a risk when using those drivers :/
[00:50] <Ari-Yang> spitboxer: why did you want to use them? and what radeon card do you have?
[00:50] <spitboxer> problem is i need XRandR support, HD4850, fairly new card
[00:50] <spitboxer> I need either XRandR or Radeon proprietary or both... Bad overscan on a mitsubishi DLP
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, Any number of ways to backup best is your personal opinion.
[00:51] <spitboxer> with the default drivers ubuntu installed
[00:51] <racho> spitboxer, radeon (the open source driver) supports XRandR pretty well. i'am on HD5500 myself
[00:51] <DJJeff> bekks: in BAOBAB 3.4.1 you could SSH Scan in 3.8.1 you can not SSH Scan
[00:51] <spitboxer> ironically enough now that im in text mode the screen fits nearly perfectly...
[00:51] <wolfspy> Is firefox supposed to use a lot of CPU? (around 70%_
[00:51] <wolfspy> )*
[00:51] <DJJeff> bekks: seems stupid to break things that work :)
[00:51] <spitboxer> racho thanks i might try reverting to it in a sec
[00:51] <Ari-Yang> spitboxer: well did you install fglrx with apt-get install fglrx ?
[00:51] <racho> wolfspy, firefox no. however plugin-container aka flash may use up to 100% :)
[00:51] <spitboxer> Ari-Yang: yep
[00:51] <oaulakh> i want to backup my system like norton ghost did for windows
[00:52] <Ari-Yang> spitboxer: okay, so now to get things working again and have your gui (X), you need to uninstall fglrx and get the radeon driver again
[00:52] <reisio> oaulakh: to where?
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, Ah, I use clonezilla, not many that are clones.
[00:52] <wolfspy> racho, I have top open and firefox is using quite a lot, plugin conatiner is using about 5
[00:52] <spitboxer> another good question is though, how can i change the behavior of ALT-arrow keys? that breaks apps like irssi pretty blatantly
[00:52] <racho> spitboxer, also if using 13.10 make sure to ad radeon.dpm=1 to kernel boot params. it does make a difference
[00:52] <Ari-Yang> spitboxer: uninstall whatever fglrx packages you installed before things broke.
[00:52] <oaulakh> clonezilla is it good in backup than tar?
[00:52]  * wilee-nilee waits for the clonezilla burn
[00:52] <Ari-Yang> spitboxer: dpm is dynamic power management, prevents gpu from running hot
[00:53] <Ari-Yang> racho: are you on 13.10?
[00:53] <wolfspy> its mostly when I load or revresh a page, it jumps up to over 100%
[00:53] <reisio> oaulakh: it's a bit overkill
[00:53] <wolfspy> refresh*
[00:53] <pngl> Trying to install mplayer2 on 13.10 I get: E: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/liba/libav/libavutil51_0.8.8-0ubuntu0.13.10.1_amd64.deb 404
[00:53] <oaulakh> hahahhaaa
[00:53] <reisio> oaulakh: for one thing your whole OS is already mirrored in thousands of places, 'cause it's free
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, clonezilla is run from a disc and does compress.
[00:53] <Ari-Yang> racho: because like, seeing how you have a hd5000 series card, you can use hardware video decoding with the open source radeon driver if you use latest mesa (10)
[00:53] <reisio> pngl: mplayer :)
[00:54] <oaulakh> good
[00:54] <racho> Ari-Yang,  my other pc (with the ati card) is and i'm pretty happy. here is fedora with Linux workbox 3.13.0-0.rc0.git1.3.fc21.x86_64
[00:54] <oaulakh> norton also run from disk
[00:54] <spitboxer> srsly, for console usage, how can i disable this behavoir of alt arrow keys... irssi depends on alt-arrow to change windows... ሺ?
[00:54] <oaulakh> clonezilla iso please?
[00:54] <pngl> reisio: same issue. I see it tries to connect using ipv6 (2001:67c:1360:8c01::1a)
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, Its on the web, you can d\o that
[00:55] <oaulakh> okkkk
[00:55] <spitboxer> hah hitting numlock in console gives a fun error: [ 1157.872260] BUG: scheduling while atomic: swapper/3/0/0x10000100
[00:55] <Ari-Yang> racho: ah, nice, I'm running 3.12 on this laptop (with hd5400) and mesa 10, works real nice. Though the ppa I used for mesa 10 dropped support for 12.04 and 12.10, so I'm considering upgrading to 13.10
[00:55] <racho> Ari-Yang, yes but afaik neither the latest mesa nor the latest kernels are in the official repos
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, It saves the mbr as well
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> norton does not
[00:55] <Ari-Yang> racho: no they are not, so people have to use ppa and the ubuntu kernel ppa
[00:56] <Ari-Yang> racho: the safest ppa for latest mesa would be oibaf's and the ubuntu kernel ppa is the way to go too
[00:56] <oaulakh> then that one is super than tar
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, I would not tar unless it it just the os alone not tar a clonezilla save
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, Clonezilla just saves packages in  a file not a partition.
[00:59] <oaulakh> cool
[00:59] <oaulakh> going to use clonezilla
[00:59] <Rxop> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYCvPx_93uU
[00:59] <oaulakh> i want my ubuntu backup, bcz i dont want to lose it that time
[01:00] <joossee> hi guys, installed openooffice thru USC after adding the repo. keep getting error "javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!
[01:00] <joossee> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libfreetype.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:00] <joossee> "? tried installing the newsest openjdk (7) but no luck?
[01:01] <bkmeneguello_> hi
[01:02] <bkmeneguello_> someone knows how to update bios in a dell
[01:02] <bkmeneguello_> i have as Inspiron 14z
[01:02] <bkmeneguello_> and need to upgrade the BIOS
[01:02] <reisio> bkmeneguello_: with a freedos image
[01:02] <joossee> wtf does that have to do with ubuntu?
[01:03] <reisio> joossee: maybe he's using Ubuntu
[01:03] <bkmeneguello_> I use ubuntu
[01:07] <bkmeneguello_> reisio: unfortunately freedos dont works
[01:07] <reisio> sure it does
[01:08] <dustinspringman> ah ha! I think i've found my problem.. maybe someone can help me fix... "xrandr is showing my monitor is connected to HDM1".. which is not the case... its actually connected to DP1 (displayport 1).... How do I tell xrandr "hey guy, you're using the wrong interface!?"
[01:08] <bkmeneguello_> sorry, i said don't works to install my update
[01:08] <reisio> dustinspringman: what makes you think it cares?
[01:09] <bkmeneguello_> the update is a windows 7/8 executable
[01:10] <dustinspringman> reisio: the issue I have is that my 26" monitor is being seen in "displays" but I get no video....  I have an HDMI and DisplayPort on this laptop.... the HDMI is tied to the nvidiaGPU which I do not use because nvidia drivers are a pain in my ass....
[01:10] <dustinspringman> reisio: this is the only thing I can find that "looks wrong"...
[01:10] <dustinspringman> on 12.04 I had this working and xrandr showed "connecetd" on teh DP1 not the HDMI1
[01:11] <dustinspringman> any thoughts on how/where to tell xrandr "use DP1" not HDMI1 ?
[01:12] <LarsN> CAn someone point me towards documentation on how to tune the screen dimming buttons?
[01:12] <spitboxer> Ari-Yang / racho : so, uninstalling fglrx & fglrx-updates was all it took - synaptic reports no package named "radeon" anyway and rebooting after uninstalling restored my X desktop
[01:12] <LarsN> I see the OSD indication pop up when hitting the brightness up & down.  However the brightness doesn't change.
[01:12] <Ari-Yang> spitboxer: you might be using radeon right now... what's the output of dmesg | grep radeon ?
[01:13] <spitboxer> btw the references to /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the "manual instructions" for upgrading to proprietary drivers, are incorrect
[01:13] <spitboxer> xorg.conf no longer lives at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:13] <spitboxer> Ari-Yang: radeon framebuffer device
[01:13] <Ari-Yang> spitboxer: and the radeon drivers are xserver-xorg-vide-ati and xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[01:13] <spitboxer> the problem is i get ridiculous overscan on this mitsubishi DLP
[01:14] <Ari-Yang> * xserver-xorg-video-ati
[01:14] <racho> spitboxer, well the radeon driver comes with kernel :)
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> bkmeneguello_, Most bios update have iso option to put on a disc.
[01:16] <Ari-Yang> spitboxer: what ubuntu version are you using?
[01:16] <spitboxer> so my next questin is, where does the xorg.conf file live? I see some stuff in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d but not an actual "xorg.conf" file
[01:16] <spitboxer> Ari-Yang: I'm using kubuntu 13.10, fresh install
[01:16] <Ari-Yang> spitboxer: you do not need xorg for ubuntu 12.04 and so on
[01:16] <Ari-Yang> spitboxer: it'snot needed.... if you do want one, you'd have to generate one.
[01:16] <bkmeneguello_> wilee-nilee, not these
[01:17] <bkmeneguello_> only an exe
[01:17] <SamuraiDio> wilee-nilee, installing now. :)
[01:17] <spitboxer> Ari-Yang: in my case I do, its the only place I know of to put ViewPortIn and ViewPortOut options
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> bkmeneguello_  Are you sure no disc option is all I would ask.
[01:17] <Ari-Yang> spitboxer: also seeing how this is a radeon card, run gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub and add radeon.dpm=1 in the GRUB cmd line, save the file, then run sudo update-grub
[01:17] <Ari-Yang> !xorg
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> SamuraiDio, Cool, enjoy.
[01:17] <Ari-Yang> !xorgconf | spitboxer
[01:19] <spitboxer> thanks guys, the problem is with nvidia drivers theres a command "nvida settings" that lets me do things like nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="DFP-0: 1920x1200 { ViewPortIn=2560x1600}"
[01:19] <racho> dustinspringman, xrandr --output DP1 etc...
[01:19] <spitboxer> trying to find the equivalent for ATI
[01:19] <Ari-Yang> spitboxer: I know you can generate one, but I forget... perhaps gooling "generating xorg.conf ati" or something?
[01:20] <ceed^> I have a problem: Sometime when I boot (once every four-five times) I just get a blank screen, no login screen. I have to open a console, log in and reboot and the next time I get the normal login screen. What could the problem be?
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> !modeset
[01:20] <dustinspringman> racho: I've been trying a few of those commands and i've been unable to find how to properly say "go away HDMI1, I want to use DP1"... I even tried "xrandr --output "HDMI1" --off
[01:20] <dustinspringman> doesn't appear to do anything..
[01:21] <racho> spitboxer, i haven't tweaked a xorg.conf in ages. if it is some dual-monitor, resolution thingy maybe you need xranrd
[01:22] <racho> dustinspringman, ok what happens when you run xrandr --output DP1 (also try DP-1) --auto
[01:22] <joossee> what kind of magic is needed for installing openoffice? i tried installing it from software centre and that didnt work, i tried it thru apt-get and that didnt work, and I tried it from their website and that didnt work either.. im at a losss here..?
[01:23] <Ari-Yang> joossee: use libreoffice
[01:23] <joossee> Ari-Yang, id rather not?
[01:24] <Ari-Yang> joossee: it should already be installed, what's wrong with LibreOffice?
[01:24] <dustinspringman> racho: nada.. cant turn off the HDMI1 cant turn on the DP1... odd thing is.. it sees "Viz 26" in "displays"... something is really goofy with xrandr here....
[01:24] <joossee> Ari-Yang, its terrible on windows and I want one office suite across the board...?
[01:24] <dustinspringman> racho: its not a phantom connection either b/c i can unplug the DP and do xrandr -q and it sure enough shows "disconnected" on HDMI1
[01:25] <Ari-Yang> joossee: wait, you don't want to install/use libreoffice on ubuntu, because it's "terrible" on Windows? and you rather use openoffice?
[01:25] <joossee> yes thats correct
[01:25] <LarsN> My laptop has a keyboard hot key to change the screen brightness.  When I hit these keys, I get an OSD presentation showing the level changing, however the brightness doesn't change.  Is there a guide anywhere on how to tune this so it actually works?
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> joossee, You have to purge libreoffice in general to have OO they share stuff, I think libreo is more uputo date thougbh.
[01:26] <FuqUmist> hello, how do i remove a virus from my ubuntu computer?
[01:26] <deezed> FuqUmist: virus?
[01:26] <joossee> i already removed it, that wasnt a problem
[01:26] <FuqUmist> yeah
[01:26] <reisio> FuqUmist: first you'd have to install one
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> FuqUmist, How do you know it's a virus, highly unlikely.
[01:26] <cvtsx> hello
[01:26] <joossee> the USC version doesnt appear to download the proper (amd64) bit version
[01:26] <reisio> cvtsx: hiyo
[01:27] <cvtsx> fluq
[01:27] <deezed> FuqUmist: do you have a virus in your ubuntu?
[01:27] <reisio> yes, fluq
[01:27] <joossee> so installed via dpckg but now i just cant launch the damn thing...?
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> joossee, Did you purge it, use nicks here.
[01:27] <reisio> joossee: dpkg -L packagename | grep -i bin
[01:27] <FuqUmist> wilee-nilee it seems i may have this virus that targets linux computers with ebanking fraud "Citadel trojan"
[01:27] <FuqUmist> google it
[01:27] <cvtsx> reisio lets be friends friend
[01:27] <Ari-Yang> !openoffice
[01:27] <reisio> FuqUmist: in what way does it seem that way
[01:27] <Ari-Yang> !apache
[01:27] <reisio> cvtsx: righto
[01:27] <Ari-Yang> !apacheopenoffice
[01:27] <reisio> Ari-Yang: ...god awful spam
[01:27] <cvtsx> fulq upload it somewhere so i can try to analyze it (i am a noob)
[01:27] <Ari-Yang> reisio: my bad XD
[01:28] <reisio> ubottu: your programmer is a failure
[01:28] <drisdan> Might anyone have any handy documentation available on how to transform a laptop into a wireless bridge? Google wasn't much help. I plan on using the wifi on the laptop as the gateway to the cable modem, then using the ethernet port on the laptop for a different internal network.
[01:28] <Ari-Yang> joossee: http://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html
[01:28] <Ari-Yang> joossee: but you'llhave to compile from source (which isn't too hard)
[01:28] <reisio> ...he doesn't want libreoffice?
[01:28] <FuqUmist> reisio from CBL
[01:29] <reisio> drisdan: in  network manager's properties
[01:29] <reisio> drisdan: you just check 'share connection' or something, it's very simple
[01:29] <cvtsx> fulqumist where do you think you were infected?
[01:29] <deezed> Ari-Yang: openoffice is actually without updates. its all libreoffice now
[01:29] <drisdan> Ubuntu 13.10 has it all built in? That easy?
[01:29] <reisio> FuqUmist: pardon?
[01:29] <Jouva> I'm trying to use phpVirtualBox which requires the vboxweb-service to be started. I do service vboxweb-service start and it just gets me back to the command prompt. Doesn't even say it's trying to start it. Any thoughts?
[01:29] <joossee> reisio, the command you posted returns soffice.bin and unopkg.bin ?
[01:29] <cvtsx> .also it shouldnt have executed unless if you allowed it to
[01:29] <reisio> drisdan: I haven't used 13.10, but networkmanager has had it for ages
[01:29] <Ari-Yang> deezed: tell that to joossee :|
[01:29] <reisio> joossee: what do you want openoffice for?
[01:29] <drisdan> thank you reisio
[01:29] <deezed> Ari-Yang: lol
[01:29] <FuqUmist> should i get an anti-virus or something?
[01:30] <reisio> FuqUmist: you should convince someone you have a trojan first
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> FuqUmist, Okay, so how do you know you have it, you have to recognize we are a bit well surprised, if you even have it and how you detected it.
[01:30] <cvtsx> why do you think you were infected?
[01:30] <Ari-Yang> !antivirus | FuqUmist
[01:30] <cvtsx> scan it on www.virustotal.com
[01:30] <deezed> joossee: did you get it? openoffice has joined libreoffice. they'r now one
[01:30] <reisio> Ari-Yang: spam and wrong
[01:30] <joossee> holy crap guys I have my reasons related to costly data loss on libreoffice for windows. ya thats the reson. now can i get openoffice running without the commentary? no offence but yeesh
[01:30] <FuqUmist> wilee-nilee from http://cbl.abuseat.org
[01:30] <cvtsx> scan it on www.virustotal.com unless if its fud
[01:30] <cvtsx> which it probably isnt
[01:30] <reisio> FuqUmist: what about the cbl?
[01:30] <cvtsx> fulq dont post malicious links in chat
[01:30] <kriskropd> if I wanted to completely remove and purge xorg and then re-install xorg (just xorg, not talkinga bout widnow managers or desktop environments or anything liek that) which all packages do I need to remove and then reinstall with apt-get ?
[01:30] <cvtsx> but thx for it
[01:31] <kriskropd> talking about window*
[01:31] <FuqUmist> rescept it says stuff like this.... :This IP address is infected with, or is NATting for a machine infected with the Citadel trojan."
[01:31] <xangua> kriskropd: for what purpose¿
[01:31] <reisio> FuqUmist: is it a desktop machine?
[01:31] <deezed> joossee: its a channel to comment though. But still, maybe in windows it was not that good as in linux
[01:31] <joossee> deezed, let me gewt this straight, they splintered, got bought by apache or w/e, and then remerged? i fidn that unlikely..?
[01:31] <kriskropd> xangua: science - this is in a vm
[01:31] <FuqUmist> yeah
[01:31] <naz> anyone know were python 2.4 would be located in 13.10? trying to do some python and im using the interpreter /usr/bin/python.2.4 and its not finding it :(
[01:32] <cvtsx> fulq here is that link https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/806547170e24172358a0872f9eb9269678ec412f9985b2b7fce6ec455183bcf5/analysis/1384392687/
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> FuqUmist, This your exact IP or a genral IP your going through.
[01:32] <GuiValdevieso> Olá Ubunteiros de plantão!
[01:32] <kriskropd> xangua: for my educational purposes, if you don't want to feel like you are wasting your time
[01:32] <FuqUmist> wilee-nilee i think it is my exact
[01:32] <reisio> FuqUmist: well first you need to know what makes them think that
[01:32]  * kriskropd blushes
[01:32] <GuiValdevieso> algum programador presente?
[01:32] <FuqUmist> reisio http://www.securityweek.com/new-banking-trojan-targets-linux-users
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> FuqUmist, You think?
[01:32] <GuiValdevieso> kkk
[01:32] <xangua> !pt | GuiValdevieso
[01:33] <cvtsx> fulq post the link here http://www.malwareurl.com/index.php
[01:33] <reisio> FuqUmist: it looks like clamav can detect it
[01:33] <FuqUmist> yeah, wilee-nilee i guess it probably is
[01:33] <GuiValdevieso> !pt
[01:33] <reisio> FuqUmist: unfortunately, however, if you had a trojan, the only way to be sure your system is 100% clean is to reinstall
[01:33] <FuqUmist> http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/view/33884/hand-of-thief-banking-trojan-takes-aim-at-secure-linux-os/
[01:33] <Jouva> naz: 2.4? I can't say for sure but I'm not sure 2.4 is included with 13.10? Maybe 2.6? I'd check the package list
[01:33] <deezed> FuqUmist: you can be sure by going on whatsmyip
[01:33] <cvtsx> fulq post the link here http://www.malwareurl.com/index.php
[01:33] <FuqUmist> reisio yeah, i really don't want to do that tho if i don't have to
[01:34] <reisio> FuqUmist: you don't have to, but it's the only way to be 100% sure
[01:34] <cvtsx> Fuq why did you execute it if its suspicious?
[01:34] <reisio> FuqUmist: clamav should find _that_ specific trojan's data for you
[01:34] <naz> thanks Jouva, I just did that its 2.7.5+ by any chance would you know were it would be located?
[01:34] <Jouva> Where 2.4 would be?
[01:34] <FuqUmist> if i install a new version of ubuntu will it get infected anyways? i'm not sure how it infects
[01:34] <naz> 2.7.5+ or currenct ver
[01:34] <naz> current*
[01:34] <cvtsx> Well FuqUmist: now that you are infected try to analyze it :D
[01:35] <joossee> ok fine screw it i will install your damned libreoffice grrrr.
[01:35] <Jouva> naz: I don't do much with python, but it might already be symlinked
[01:35] <cvtsx> FuqUmist: now that you are infected try to analyze it :D
[01:35] <deezed> FuqUmist: do you know you can backup your data and settings of your profile, reinstall ubuntu and set everything up very easily?
[01:35] <naz> Thanks Jouva
[01:35] <Jouva> naz: If you install it, you can use dpkg to search for the file or do a "which" or "whereis"
[01:35] <FuqUmist> cvtsx i'm not that computer savvy
[01:35] <deezed> joossee: lol
[01:35] <reisio> FuqUmist: what you do is reinstall, then install a system integrity system, such as AIDE
[01:35] <bkmeneguello_> hey thanks for the freedos tip. it worked!!!
[01:35] <reisio> FuqUmist: that way even if you get it again, you won't have to reinstall
[01:35] <cvtsx> FuqUmist: why did you execute it if it was suspicious?
[01:35] <joossee> deezed, are they really back to being merged? cuz it doesnt seem so from what ive read?
[01:36] <joossee> first question: how do i uninstall a dpkg installation?
[01:36] <FuqUmist> do you think i become infected by browsing websites or something or was i specifically targeted?
[01:36] <Jouva> I'm trying to use phpVirtualBox which requires the vboxweb-service to be started. I do service vboxweb-service start and it just gets me back to the command prompt. Doesn't even say it's trying to start it. Any thoughts?
[01:36] <deezed> joossee: I've read so, but if you are saying they are not, I cant be sure. But anyway the point is: openoffice hasnt been updated for a while
[01:37] <cvtsx> FuqUmist: well tell us what happened between you being clean -> infected
[01:37] <kriskropd> Jouva: what does 'status' say?
[01:37] <Jouva> Same thing
[01:37] <cvtsx> probably not targeted tho
[01:37] <reisio> FuqUmist: best use clamscan to see if you've even got it first
[01:37] <Jouva> It's just not telling me anything, but it's not throwing an error either
[01:37] <FuqUmist> cvtsx nothing really, just browsing the internet and irc mainly
[01:37] <deezed> joossee: what do you mean as a dpkg installation? unpack it manually?
[01:37] <reisio> FuqUmist: you can do it from a live OS to reduce your exposure in the interim
[01:37] <cvtsx> o then it probably wasnt targeted
[01:38] <cvtsx> FuqUmist: but really try to analyze it, there are plenty of tutorials online
[01:38] <cvtsx> also post the suspicious website on http://www.malwareurl.com/index.php
[01:38] <Jouva> kriskropd: It's weird that it's giving me nothing at all. The file is definitely in /etc/init.d so it's not that it's missing
[01:38] <deezed> FuqUmist: I think its not that hard that you have got it from irc...
[01:38] <reisio> deezed: it is
[01:39] <reisio> but we don't even know if he's got it
[01:39] <reisio> don't put the cart before the horse
[01:39] <reisio> doesn't work right
[01:39] <cvtsx> lol ya
[01:39] <kriskropd> Jouva: I'm not really familiar with phpVirtualBox, but I did run it once several years ago. It should be logging to a file in /var/log
[01:39] <cvtsx> scan your computer
[01:39] <joossee> deezed, i ran dpkg -i *.deb in the appropriate directory and it installed to /opt... just wanna remove it before i install, gas, libreofiffice
[01:39] <cvtsx> also look at all out going tcp connections
[01:39] <deezed> reisio: some days ago Ive received some messages here from random users I've never talked with, and it looks like virus
[01:40] <cvtsx> FuqUmist: look at all out going tcp connections
[01:40] <kriskropd> Jouva: do you know which port it should be running on? 127.0.0.1:10000 perhaps? you could try running 'netstat -tulpn' and seeing if you recognize that port being hosted
[01:40] <reisio> deezed: that's just spam
[01:40] <reisio> welcome to the internet
[01:40] <reisio> indeed, the human race
[01:40] <deezed> reisio: uhm...
[01:40] <reisio> deezed: uhm nothing
[01:40] <ianmac1> joossee, you should be able to use apt-get to remove that *.deb
[01:41] <reisio> FuqUmist: sudo apt-get install clamav && sudo freshclam && clamscan -ir ~/.config
[01:41] <deezed> reisio: lol... uhm like "ah, got it!"
[01:41] <Jouva> kriskropd: The problem is I'm tring to run that service and it's just not even trying to run
[01:41] <reisio> ah :p
[01:41] <joossee> ianmac1, apt-get purge oppenoffice* ?
[01:41] <cvtsx> FuqUmist: also do you have the suspicious file on hand?
[01:41] <deezed> joossee: yes, ianmac1 is right. But why not just install it from synaptics?
[01:41] <kriskropd> Jouva: do you have permissions set up right? does phpvbox have a user that needs to be added to the vbox group still?
[01:42] <Jouva> kriskropd: I had it running recently-ish.
[01:42] <ianmac1> joossee, sudo apt-get remove name-of-package.deb
[01:42] <ianmac1> for each package you want to remove
[01:42] <joossee> omfg
[01:42] <kriskropd> ish as in almost running or ish as in almost-recently?
[01:42] <kriskropd> Jouva: ^
[01:42] <reisio> cvtsx: he doesn't have a file, some website says his IP is "infected"
[01:42] <Jouva> Maybe a month or two ago. I don't BELIEVE I've rebooted since then. Box was rebooted 45 days ago, but... yeah there's no way I rebooted since then
[01:42] <ianmac1> joossee, Shall I assume there were numerous packages?
[01:42] <Jouva> I've ran this within the past month
[01:42] <joossee> ianmac1, can i do that with a * instead in the DEBS directory of the untaredball?
[01:42] <Ububegin> Our windows server has crashed. Will it possible to use Ubuntu LiveCD to recover data out of it
[01:42] <cvtsx> reisio: o lol
[01:42] <kriskropd> Jouva: if it worked before then that is strange
[01:43] <cvtsx> reisio: what site is saying that?
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> Ububegin, If it mounts yes.
[01:43] <ianmac1> joossee, no, you need to specify package names
[01:43] <Jouva> kriskropd: I know because I did this just after I started my new job which I've only been at for a month on this friday
[01:43] <reisio> that cbl site he mentioned
[01:43] <cvtsx> also this is a perfect example for why you should be using no-script
[01:43] <joossee> seriously i cannot use dpkg to reverse what its done?
[01:44] <ianmac1> joossee, you still need to use individual package names
[01:44] <deezed> joossee: are you trying to install the last version?
[01:44] <reisio> cvtsx: not really, as we have no idea if he even has such a trojan, or how he might have gotten it
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> cvtsx, its not a flash trojan, and I doubt they have it.
[01:44] <kriskropd> Jouva: do you have one of these? '/home/vbox/.VirtualBox/vboxwebsrv.log'
[01:44] <ianmac1> deezed, from what I gather, he used "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" in a dir and now wants to remove those packages
[01:44] <reisio> I doubt he has it, either
[01:44] <naz> I never understood linux, cant get games working but developing and sdks work
[01:45] <kriskropd> Jouva: is it updating whenever you try to start the service?
[01:45] <joossee> i installed the appropriate deb package from oppenoffice.org
[01:45] <naz> now games are working and i cant develop
[01:45] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[01:45] <Jouva> Let me go look
[01:45] <ianmac1> joossee, if it's just one .deb package it is as simple as using apt-get to remove it
[01:45] <Jouva> kriskropd: It is no updating it hasn't been updated since October
[01:46] <cvtsx> wilee-nilee: funny you mention that http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/11/zero-days-rule-novembers-patch-tuesday/
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> General IP's can get a black list if someone is doing something
[01:46] <racho> naz, why can't you develop? what's not working?
[01:46] <naz> python, and also g++ will not compile perfectly good c++ code
[01:47] <FuqUmist> "Behind a NAT, you should be able to find the infected machine by looking for attempted connections to IP address 95.211.120.23 or host name flashveralops.pw on any port with a network sniffer such as wireshark."
[01:47] <wolfgang_> I installed kubuntu along side xubuntu a while ago using the command sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:47] <wolfgang_> How can I remove it?
[01:47] <deezed> ianmac1: uhm so why not remove?
[01:47] <wolfgang_> Its causing preoblems
[01:47] <wolfgang_> *problems
[01:47] <ianmac1> deezed, that's what I'm trying to help him with
[01:47] <kriskropd> Jouva: I'm not really sure then. Have you updated the system during that time frame? I imagine since phpvbox is reliant on the vbox API, an update could easily mess something up
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> cvtsx, No mention of citadel, that is MS and we all know there that adobe is vulnerable, you point?
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> your*
[01:47] <Jouva> Maybe
[01:47] <cvtsx> idk why i posted it
[01:48] <deezed> wolfgang_: did you try to ask in #kubuntu?
[01:48] <cvtsx> but you can find information about citadel on there. also he is afk
[01:48] <cvtsx> so...
[01:48] <Jouva> kriskropd: I think I had to download a specific version of virtualbox direct from the website as the packages ubuntu wants to install is 4.3 and this wants 4.2
[01:48] <deezed> ianmac1: yes, I just realized it
[01:48] <racho> naz, i have yet to see problems with g++ compiling correct c++ code. and python just works
[01:48] <Jouva> kriskropd: So I believe it's not updating through apt-get
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> cvtsx, I saw no citadel mentioned
[01:48] <cvtsx> on some of his other posts
[01:48] <Jouva> kriskropd: That and it would complain about that being the wrong version anyway I believe
[01:48] <wolfgang_> deezed, The terminal command should be the same in all distro's
[01:49] <xangua> !purexubuntu | wolfgang_
[01:49] <deezed> wolfgang_: true. I'm just asking because maybe they could have told you something useful
[01:49] <cvtsx> http://www.xylibox.com/2013/11/citadel-targeting-canada.html
[01:49] <reisio> cvtsx: shhh
[01:49] <cvtsx> a whois on his irc nick said pennsylvania but
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> lol
[01:50] <deezed> wolfgang_: and the problem you are saying here is not about distros, but desktops
[01:50] <cvtsx> ?
[01:50] <kriskropd> Jouva: can you run vbox from the shell just fine still? 'vboxmanage startvm --type headless /home/vbox/VirtualBox\ VMs/vm-name/vm-name.vbox'
[01:50] <Jouva> Oh. Weird.
[01:50] <Jouva> vboxmanage is GONE
[01:50] <naz> I have no problems on 12.04, 13.10 just does not like my hardware I guess, can't get everything back to normal
[01:50] <reisio> Jouva: no, it's just camelCase
[01:50] <wolfgang_> deezed, I asked here because the most useful people are here, especially if you want an answer fast, thank you.
[01:50] <reisio> VBoxManage
[01:50] <kriskropd> Jouva: try /usr/bin/vboxmanage
[01:50] <Jouva> oh
[01:50] <reisio> first thing you should do is alias it to vboxmanage :p
[01:50] <msdw> who knows how to install zpanel
[01:50]  * joossee agrees with wolfgang_ 
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> This is a perfect example why not to use Canadian banking, hehe
[01:51] <cvtsx> reisio: srry friend
[01:51] <kriskropd> Jouva: or reissio's suggestion, it does sometimes have uppercase
[01:51] <Jouva> ALSO gone
[01:51] <cvtsx> xD
[01:51] <deezed> wilee-nilee: true
[01:51] <reisio> Jouva: it's not gone, it's either present or not
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> yah sure
[01:51] <deezed> wilee-nilee: south park also says so
[01:51] <Jouva> It's not on my system that's for sure.
[01:51] <Jouva> It was, but now it's somehow not
[01:52] <kriskropd> Jouva: maybe you ran it from another directory, try 'locate VBoxMange' or with lowercase
[01:52] <cuzzo> Why would an ~/.ssh/config file with Host blah; User foo not be equivalent to: $ ssh -l foo blah ?
[01:52] <c_smith> anyone here know how I would add an @ubuntu.com alias to Empathy?
[01:52] <Jouva> Nope. Neither one
[01:52] <wolfgang_> deezed, that is one long command, thank you
[01:52] <kriskropd> Jouva: not sure if that will find it - you could also try to remember when you were installing/unpacking/building if maybe you left it in the Downloads directory or some other working directory and never properly installed it
[01:53] <Jouva> Wait hang on one sec
[01:53] <Jouva> ok n/m I was making sure it wasn't installed in some other directory somehow
[01:54] <wolfgang_> deezed, http://pastebin.com/Qj5piDn8
[01:54] <kriskropd> Jouva: if it's "gone" (:D) then I know why it isn't working, but idk what happened :P
[01:54] <deezed> wolfgang_: sorry. I'm not sure why people actually think I'm rude or trying to fight with them
[01:54] <deezed> =/
[01:54] <Jouva> Yeah it's supposed to be in /usr/lib/virtualbox according to the init.d script
[01:54] <cvtsx> well i would say he possibly could have been infected. since i just looked up his ip and he is from Canada
[01:54] <Jouva> And there's just a directory there ExtensionPacks
[01:54] <wolfgang_> deezed, I dont think you are rude?
[01:55] <reisio> Jouva: what makes you think virtualbox is installed?
[01:55] <kriskropd> Jouva: I remember having some problems with phpvbox before I got it to work and I eventually jsut settled for using vbox from a shell prompt instead
[01:55] <Jouva> reisio: It might somehow be uninstalled
[01:55] <kriskropd> Jouva: but if it's missing, it might've got uninstalled by aptitude somehow
[01:55] <reisio> Jouva: ...
[01:55] <reisio> so you have no reason to think it's installed
[01:55] <wolfgang_> deezed, IM using 13.10 maybe it doesnt work for 13.10
[01:56] <Jouva> reisio: It was recently installed. It might no longer be installed
[01:56] <deezed> wolfgang_: do you know you can do this way: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde ?
[01:56] <deezed> wolfgang_: or either with synaptics
[01:56] <reisio> Jouva: dpkg -L virtualbox | grep -i bin
[01:57] <Jouva> reisio: I did do an auto cleanup after I removed a single package that installed... I believe a bunch of X stuff and I realized I didn't need that package anyway. And well... yeah it uninstalled a little too much, so maybe it also uninstalled things such as virtualbox even though I used a .deb
[01:57] <ianmac1> I love Synaptic, I don't know why Ubuntu doesn't ship with it. Much easier to use and understand than USC
[01:57] <Jouva> nope
[01:57] <wolfgang_> deezed, Thats for installing not removing, but if it comes down to it I could reinstall it
[01:57] <reisio> ianmac1: NIH
[01:57] <deezed> wolfgang_: anyway. just for asking, did you add the kubuntu repository?
[01:58] <deezed> ianmac1: agree!! totally
[01:58] <wolfgang_> deezed, No, that could be why its not installed correctley, oops :/
[01:58] <ianmac1> reisio, NIH?
[01:58] <deezed> wolfgang_: http://www.noobslab.com/2013/02/install-kde-410-in-ubuntu-12101204linux.html
[01:58] <deezed> wolfgang_: maybe it can help
[01:58] <wolfgang_> deezed, I just want it gone
[01:58] <xangua> and this is what happend when people don't read the questions :)
[01:58] <mammuth> #ubuntu-fr
[01:58] <kriskropd> Jouva: you might need to run 'dpkg -L virtualbox4.2 | grep -i bin' actually, try tab-completing on virtualbxos to see the versions
[01:59] <reisio> ianmac1: not invented here
[01:59] <ianmac1> reisio, Ah, true
[01:59] <reisio> commercial entities make more money if they control what they're selling
[01:59] <Jouva> kriskropd: It has some remnants, but it looks like it's pretty much not installed
[01:59] <ianmac1> good point
[02:00] <kriskropd> Jouva: Zalgo invaded your system when you weren't looking, I guess
[02:00] <Jouva> Just the /etc/default and /etc/init.s and a /usr/lib/virtualbox directory
[02:00] <kriskropd> lol
[02:00] <deezed> reisio: thats true
[02:01] <Jouva> I always forget if x86_64 IS amd64 or not
[02:01] <dustinspringman> so... Xrandr is seriously confused... its showing HDMI connected when I'm plugged into DP1... how can I fix this?
[02:01] <kriskropd> Jouva: *64* is always *64*
[02:01] <reisio> Jouva: x86_64 is the new name for amd64
[02:01] <Jouva> ok
[02:02] <reisio> renaming things, great way to confuse people
[02:02] <wolfgang_> deezed, I found a tutorial on it, but it looks like since it is installed wrong it wont work, and its been causing errors, so maybe I need to reinstall linux?
[02:02] <reisio> "let's change its name so it's less confusing!"
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> hehe
[02:02] <reisio> "uhhh, but I already knew it was named 'amd64'"
[02:02] <kriskropd> "confuses everyone"
[02:02] <reisio> classic stabbing in the back of people who aren't ignorant
[02:02] <Jouva> It's kinda true that it should be not amd64 anymore
[02:02] <reisio> in an attempt to help the ignorant masses
[02:02] <deezed> wolfgang_: I dont think so
[02:02] <Jouva> Because of Intel having 64 bit
[02:02] <reisio> and you end up just confusing everyone
[02:02] <deezed> wolfgang_: try to uninstall and purge it
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> lets call it multiarch
[02:02] <wolfgang_> deezed, Well what should I do now?
[02:03] <deezed> wolfgang_: then just install it again
[02:03] <wolfgang_> deezed, and then try to uninstall?
[02:03] <kriskropd> my 64 bit nintendo
[02:03] <wolfgang_> deezed, So how do I add the correct distro's?
[02:03] <xangua> !purexfce | wolfgang_ second time i mention it to you
[02:04] <reisio> Jouva: nonsense
[02:04] <reisio> I just got done explaining...
[02:04] <reisio> you can't rename something, all that does is gives something TWO names
[02:04] <reisio> it's always that way
[02:04] <reisio> binary MB vs decimal
[02:04] <wolfgang_> xangua that wont work, probably because its meant for 12.10.
[02:04] <reisio> AD vs CE
[02:04] <reisio> it never works, not ever
[02:04] <FloodBot1> reisio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:04] <DZane> Hola folks. I have a question in regards to an ancient little machine I threw Ubuntu 12 on. I'm unable to change the resolution using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Unable%20to%20change%20Screen%20resolution%20in%20Ubuntu
[02:04] <reisio> FloodBot1: suck an egg
[02:04] <deezed> wolfgang_: So I would do like that: first uninstall and purge what you installed and wasnt working properly, then add its repo, then install it from synaptics
[02:05] <reisio> DZane: using what
[02:05] <xangua> wolfgang_: this is what happen when people read there is a new blog  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/tag/pure-xubuntu/
[02:05] <wolfgang_> deezed, I tried, but its not recognizing its existance.
[02:05] <DZane> I open /usr/bin/compis as it says and it comes up all nice and corrup looking
[02:06] <DZane> It's an AAAANCIENT Dell Optiplex with this graphics card
[02:06] <DZane>  Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[02:06] <wolfgang_> xangua, http://pastebin.com/Qj5piDn8
[02:07] <wolfgang_> xangua, doesnt work.
[02:07] <DZane> Old as heck, but I'm going to be turning it into a simple little DMZ with some slick packages a buddy of mine in Okinawa wrote.
[02:07] <xangua> wolfgang_: you really don't like to read :) you are using the instructions to remove Ubuntu, not Kubuntu
[02:08] <deezed> wolfgang_: so do you plan to stay just with kde or both?
[02:08] <wolfgang_> deezed, Remove kde and use xubuntu which is what I started with
[02:09] <wolfgang_> xangua, I didnt read wrong, I used the one for kubuntu, and even if I used the one for ubuntu it would of worked because I have both
[02:09] <deezed> wolfgang_: ok, so cant you remove it with "sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop" ?
[02:09] <wolfgang_> deezed, wolfgang@Sawyer:~$ sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop
[02:09] <wolfgang_> Reading package lists... Done
[02:09] <wolfgang_> Building dependency tree
[02:09] <wolfgang_> Reading state information... Done
[02:09] <wolfgang_> Package 'kubuntu-desktop' is not installed, so not removed
[02:09] <wolfgang_> The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
[02:09] <FloodBot1> wolfgang_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> deezed, No desktop are meta packages.
[02:10] <DZane> This is the article I read, reisio
[02:10] <DZane> http://tinyurl.com/monlrc3
[02:10] <reisio> DZane: I believe you
[02:10] <ianorlin> !pastebinit | wolfgang_
[02:10] <spitboxer> thanks Ari-Yang and racho, got it working by putting some xrandr startup scripts in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf instead of modifying xorg.conf
[02:10] <deezed> wilee-nilee: uhm, so what about trying to remove it from software manager itself? would it work?
[02:10] <wolfgang_> iannorlin, I didnt think it is to big, I know what pastebin is...
[02:10] <spitboxer> now for my next impossible question, lol...
[02:11] <spitboxer> is there any easy way to bump the font-size up system-wide ? =)
[02:11] <DZane> Think it's just a case of ancient hardware not handling what I put on it?
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> deezed, You need a package list like was posted to remove completely, what release is this?
[02:11] <DZane> I had the same issues in Ubuntu 10.04 as well, did the upgrade to 12.04
[02:12] <spitboxer> like, if I'm going blind, because I sit to close to a giant screen. How can I bump the font size up system wide? What happens if I change System settings -> Fonts
[02:12] <deezed> wilee-nilee: It seems that anything is installed: http://pastebin.com/Qj5piDn8
[02:12] <spitboxer> er
[02:12] <DZane> @Spitboxer: System Settings > Universal Access
[02:12] <ds_> hello all
[02:12] <spitboxer> what happens if I check System Settings -> Fonts -> [] Force Fonts DPI
[02:13] <spitboxer> DZane: I dontt see a Universal Access, actually
[02:13] <DZane> Which flavor you using?
[02:13] <ds_> interesting problem here .. im installing fail2ban on ubu server 13.10, and during install, it just freezes. nothing happens during the part where it says starting fail2ban monitor
[02:13] <spitboxer> DZane: kubuntu
[02:13] <racho> spitboxer, because that's a gnome thing and you sound like kde
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> deezed, I see gtk2 and gtk3 not sure if they mix, what is it you are doing and the end goal here?
[02:13] <DZane> ooooh....
[02:13] <spitboxer> aha!
[02:13] <spitboxer> Ive been using gnome
[02:14] <DZane> ???
[02:14] <spitboxer> but I decided to give kde a whirl this time around
[02:14] <DZane> AAAH
[02:14] <racho> spitboxer, yes you can force system wide dpi through there and bump it above 96 if you have massive screen estate
[02:14] <spitboxer> racho I'm on a 65" mitsubishi DLP, hence the legendary mitsubishi overscan problem
[02:14] <Jouva> Welp an install of virtualbox-4.2 fixed it
[02:14] <spitboxer> and setting this up more or less to be a media center machine
[02:15] <DZane> Spitboxer, I hate you now
[02:15] <DZane> lol
[02:15] <Jouva> Shocker of the year: phpVirtualbox requires virtualbox to be installed :B
[02:15] <Jouva> But I guess I somehow uninstalled it and forgot
[02:15] <deezed> wilee-nilee: wolfgang_ has tried to install kubuntu-desktop over xubuntu, but kubuntu installation had some problems. Now he just wants to remove kubuntu completly from his machine
[02:15] <spitboxer> DZane: trust me, its not all its cracked up to be. 65" DLP is not very high fidelity, no way to get exact 1:1 pixel display on it
[02:15] <spitboxer> DZane: also, I use a 42" samsung LED for my desktop for acouple years now. As a result, I need glasses. :-(
[02:16] <DZane> Spitboxer: I bet so lol Still, it has it's uses
[02:17] <wolfgang_> deezed, My dad is trying to make me go, so bye, thank you, and no, I already tried, it failed I needed help removing what it screwed up, I will just reinstall linux bye, and thank you for your helo
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> deezed, I'm not interested in helping them to be honest, I have enough gray hairs already. ;)
[02:17] <wolfgang_> deezed *help
[02:17] <DZane> @The General Crowd: I have an ancient Dell with the Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04), and can't get my resolution above 1024 x 768
[02:17] <deezed> wolfgang_: no problem! bye
[02:17] <deezed> wilee-nilee: ok
[02:18] <DZane> I tried a few things, mainly this: http://tinyurl.com/monlrc3 but it didn't work: the file it says to edit comes up corrupt as hell
[02:18] <DZane> And I've been out of Linux for about a decade or so, so I'm rustier than the Tin Man after a typhoon
[02:19] <ds_> anyone can give me a hand with apt ? a package just "hangs" during install. ive killed it and tried the apt-get install -f deal, but same thing. also dpkg --configure -a. no love whatsoever ....
[02:19] <DZane> And even then I didn't know a whole lot
[02:20] <sam113101> whenever I replug my wireless _mouse_ I need to reapply xmodmap (my keyboard is wired), how do you explain that?
 and the linux you knew back then is a whole lot different now
[02:20] <racho> sam113101, X11
[02:20] <deezed> ds_: which package?
[02:20] <DZane> @Danato: It's mindblowing
[02:20] <ds_> fail2ban
[02:20] <ds_> ccant figure it out
[02:20] <sam113101> racho: it's shit
[02:21] <racho> sam113101, it is... i hope wayland comes asap. i have a r.a.t. 9. it's a mess
[02:21] <deezed> ds_: can you pastebin the output
[02:21] <deezed> ?
[02:21] <wolfspy> How do you get a rat on ubuntu>
[02:21] <ds_> sure
[02:21] <ds_> one sec
[02:21] <SamuraiDio> wilee-nilee, it worked
 so did you jst start catching up?
[02:22] <ds_> dumb question ... how do i direct a comment to someone in irc ?
[02:22] <SamuraiDio> wilee-nilee, seens the problem was my usb-drive
[02:22] <kriskropd> ds_: like this
[02:22] <deezed> ds_: just write his name. or the begning of it and then tab
[02:22] <DZane> @Danato: I did. It's not one of those things I wanted to do, more of a neccesity
[02:23] <racho> DZane, are you trying to run unity with that pc?
[02:23] <ds_> deezed: got it , thanks. ill pastebi that in a sec
[02:23] <DZane> lol 2D only, bud
[02:23] <deezed> ds_: ok
[02:23] <DZane> I may be out of my element, but I'm not THAT lost. It actually pushes the 3D dang smooth for an old hunk of junk
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> SamuraiDio, Ah, it happens never had any fail fail here but I hera it happens, or at least troubles anyway.
[02:24] <DZane> *2D rather
 maybe youll end up liking it a lot. Me im trying to slowly replace windows, ill only use windows when i really need to
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> SamuraiDio, Sorry for the bad typing, glad your installed. ;)
[02:26] <DZane> It seems like CLI really hasn't changed much over the years, but things were so much simpler without a GUI
[02:27] <ds_> deezed: >>im an idiot. do i "tee" that command .. sudo apt blah blah > blah.txt ?
[02:27] <deezed> ds_: what do you mean? to pastebin it?
[02:28] <ds_> oh ..nevermind. one sec
[02:28] <kriskropd> ds_: stop insulting yourself :) you are proactively trying to understanding and fix something - you are no idiot
[02:28] <deezed> kriskropd: =)
[02:28] <kriskropd> !cookie | ds_
[02:28] <ds_> kriskropd: i appreciate that
[02:28] <ds_> heh
[02:29] <dancemasterglenn> Hi all. I'm attempting to get a bug fixed on launchpad, and I've been given a .patch file, but I do not know what to do to apply it properly. I can follow terminal commands; can anyone assist me?
[02:29] <dancemasterglenn> I can provide a link to the bug page if that is of interest.
[02:30] <nosmelc> Any ideas why a machine won't boot from Ubuntu 13.10 on a flash drive?  It should be new enough(core 2 duo) to support that, and I tested it on another machine
[02:30] <ds_> deezed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6413852/      --- just sits there, and my term is "dead"
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> dancemasterglenn, State the issues and post the bug link and the fix.
[02:30] <kriskropd> dancemasterglenn: do you have a copy of the source files available to compile?
[02:31] <dancemasterglenn> I've been unable to access the sound settings menu for months, when my audio interface is plugged in.
[02:31] <somsip> ds_: tail -f /var/log/fail2ban.log
[02:31] <dancemasterglenn> here's the link to the bug:
[02:31] <dancemasterglenn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1131220
[02:31] <deezed> ds_: wait. can you try to remove it and then reinstall it?
[02:31] <dancemasterglenn> the patch file was uploaded there, they were going to make me a ppa but they haven't had time to in the last few days.
[02:31] <somsip> ds_: F2B is very particular about permissions in /etc/fail2ban
[02:32] <deezed> ds_: you said the problem was in the installation first right?
[02:32] <ds_> somsip: it just hangs when i tailed that
[02:32] <ds_> deezed: i have to kill dpkg one sec
[02:32] <somsip> ds_: then try to start it again and you should see some output unless it's really b0rked
[02:33] <ds_> deezed: correct. cant get past the install for some reason..
[02:33] <racho> dancemasterglenn, usually you apply a patch to the source of the program and then recompile the said program
[02:33] <kriskropd> dancemasterglenn: which can be done with 'patch' - appropriately named
[02:33] <ds_> deezed:  it tells me dpkg was interupted, and to run dpkg --configure -a. ive done that, and it the same thing
[02:34] <deezed> ds_: its not a big deal. just install it normally, copy the output and paste on any pastebin website
[02:34] <kriskropd> dancemasterglenn: usually you go to the root directory of the source code, 'patch -p0 < /path/to/patch.diff'
[02:34] <dancemasterglenn> Racho, I figured that would be the case, but I'm not positive which program I'd be applying it to. gvc-mixer-control?
[02:34] <deezed> ds_: can you try to reinstall it before dpkg-reconfigure -a again?
[02:35] <kriskropd> dancemasterglenn: then just ./configure and make
[02:35] <ds_> deezed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6413870/ ill try what you last said one sec
[02:36] <ds_> driving me nuts
[02:37] <racho> dancemasterglenn, afaik this leads to libgnome-volume-control
[02:37] <deezed> ds_: did you try to reboot it already?
[02:37] <ds_> deezed: is the a way to force the removal with apt ?
[02:37] <dancemasterglenn> Does it matter that I didn't compile any of this code from source? This is all from my normal install, so I'm not sure if the source for the program running (whichever program it is) is on here or if I just have binaries
[02:37] <ds_> deezed: actually, ythat i ddint .. its on a remote box, but ill give it a shot now
[02:38] <racho> dancemasterglenn, well you will need the source to apply the patch. the other option is to wait for a ppa (which is actually the binary of the source with the applied patch)
[02:39] <racho> dancemasterglenn, the third option is to download libgnome-volume-control source code, apply the patch and use apt/dpkg to build a deb package out of it
[02:39] <deezed> ds_: there is an option to force in apt but its dangerous. its --force-yes. but I wouldnt use it
[02:39] <kriskropd> dancemasterglenn: to test it, you would run the locally nuilt copy of the program, to have it in place of the "normal install" you would need to move all the built files to the appropriate locations
[02:39] <racho> dancemasterglenn, and install it
[02:39] <kriskropd> ~built*
[02:39] <deezed> ds_: maybe the option --fix-broken can help you more
[02:41] <dancemasterglenn> whew. Maybe I should just be waiting for the ppa then... I just figured if I should try and figure out this patch stuff if I can. Sounds a bit daunting though.
[02:41] <ds_> deezed: as in apt-get --fix-broken ?
[02:41] <dancemasterglenn> how would I get the source to libgnome-volume-control, if I were going to try and patch it?
[02:42] <deezed> ds_: I think so
[02:42] <racho> dancemasterglenn, https://git.gnome.org/browse/
[02:42] <ds_> deezed: one sec
[02:43] <racho> dancemasterglenn, https://git.gnome.org/browse/libgnome-volume-control/
[02:43] <racho> use the source luke :)
[02:43] <deezed> ds_: anyway, did you read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fail2ban to configure fail2ban?
[02:43] <Danato> guys what IRC do you like the most?
[02:44] <Danato> *IRC client
[02:44] <racho> dancemasterglenn, also keep in mind gnome's git repo is for 3.10+ while ubuntu still uses 3.8
[02:44] <ds_> deezed:  i did. up to the install that os
[02:44] <ianorlin> !best
[02:44] <ds_> is
[02:44] <fobelx> can i use ubuntu as a base for a commercial system? if yes, do i need to pay licensing fees?
[02:45] <deezed> ds_: uhm
[02:45] <deezed> ok
[02:45] <dancemasterglenn> racho, so there might be other issues on top of simply applying the patch, when i go to test?
[02:45] <Ububegin> fobelx: no, ubuntu is free...
[02:46] <alistair> Has anyone else had problems with their encrypted home directory recently (Ubuntu 13.04)?  I rebooted my laptop this morning and can no longer access it.  Just wondering if it is possible a recent update caused problems.
[02:46] <deezed> ds_: I would try something like: sudo 'dpkg-reconfigure -a', then apt-get remove again
[02:47] <lf94> Ububegin: With what Canonical makes a user go through before downloading, that could change. :)
[02:47] <Danato>  <ianorlin> my question was never which client is the "best", I asked which one do you like the most, your personal preference
[02:47] <racho> dancemasterglenn, i also recall apt-get can fetch sources
[02:48] <ianorlin> weechat
[02:48] <racho> dancemasterglenn, so you may pool the source code straight from the ubuntu source repos
[02:48] <racho> *pull
[02:48] <kriskropd> Danato: a poll is a poll is a poll is a poll
[02:49] <kriskropd> irssi :x
[02:49] <deezed> ds_: ?
[02:49] <deezed> kriskropd: indeed its nice
[02:50] <deezed> Danato: but xchat is so easy
[02:50] <dancemasterglenn> racho, that might be better... let me check and see if i can do that
[02:51] <kriskropd> deezed: but xchat uses gtk, doesn't it? i can access my irssi over ssh from anywhere, like I do
[02:51] <kriskropd> Danato: these discussions get offtopic, as you can see, which is why we refrain from asking such questions here - you really ought to ask that again in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:51] <deezed> kriskropd: thats true. I actually dont use xchat much. I use more konversation, from kde, and irssi
[02:51] <Danato>  ianorlin: thank you
[02:51] <dancemasterglenn> E: Unable to find a source package for gnome-volume-control
[02:52] <deezed> kriskropd: but accessing from anywhere you mean any terminal or shell, right?
[02:53] <Danato> kriskropd: ok no problem
[02:53] <kriskropd> deezed: yeah, I have a bash-fetish I think :X
[02:54] <deezed> kriskropd: haha, nice!
[02:55] <dancemasterglenn> racho, looking through synaptic and not seeing anything that looks quite like gnome-volume-control, gvc, etc... would it be contained in a larger overall package, possibly?
[02:56] <racho> dancemasterglenn, quite possible
[02:56] <dancemasterglenn> hmm.
[02:56] <deezed> ds_: so?
[02:58] <ds_> deezed: sorry bout that .. i restarted the vm, snd the /etc/fail2ban.conf is hal there? it stops at fail2band pid file. when i try to remove, it says dpkg --configure -a. and still the same issue
[02:59] <ds_> deezed: nevermind ,, reboot worked ! thanks !
[02:59] <deezed> ds_: ok! no problem
[02:59] <deezed> ds_: btw it always helps
[02:59] <ds_> deezed:  yes?
[02:59] <marz> I have Ubuntu 12.04 installed, magnet links does not work with utorrent/utserver, does anyone know how to make it work?
[02:59] <ds_> deezed: it do as they say
[03:00] <reisio> marz: use deluge instead
[03:01] <marz> reisio: I'll try that. Thanks
[03:03] <DZane> Seems I got banned and don't know why
[03:04] <DZane> Swapped to AFK status and that was it
[03:04] <reisio> doesn't seem like you're banned to me
[03:04] <reisio> although nobody cares if you're afk
[03:04] <DZane> not anymore
[03:04] <DZane> and I know they don't
[03:05] <DZane> No one ever does, reisio
[03:05] <reisio> and yet you keep telling us
[03:05] <DZane> For a guy with a cool name you seem like quite the smartass.
[03:05] <DZane> Good show, Sir
[03:06] <reisio> you read too much into plain text
[03:06] <reisio> nobody cares if anyone goes afk
[03:07] <DZane> I had only mentioned it previously because I was trying to get help with an issue, and didn't want someone to answer when I was away and have me miss it
[03:07] <DZane> Common courtesy, and I didn't want to miss an important tip
[03:07] <TheyTookrJobs> !screenshot
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> DZane, someone answering when your away is about as likely as you winning a noble prize.
[03:08] <reisio> just say 'going afk'
[03:08] <reisio> it's apparent when a person is afk because they don't say anything
[03:08] <reisio> /whois dzane
[03:08] <reisio> no such person
[03:08] <DZane> Wilee-nilee the chances of anyone answering anyway are slim
[03:08] <reisio> 'cause you changed your nick
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> DZane, you guessed it yes.
[03:09] <dancemasterglenn> I think that I'm going to keep at getting in touch with the guys who offered to make me a ppa, hopefully they will come through for me. racho, kriskropd, thank you both for your advice!
[03:10] <judgen> How do i get an atheros ethernet card to work in 12.04? I have updated to kernel 3.11
[03:10] <MasterRoshi> :-*
[03:11] <reisio> judgen: which o ne?
[03:11] <DZane> judgen: just curious, is it the AR8161?
[03:11] <judgen> AR8161
[03:11] <DZane> lol
[03:12] <judgen> yes but it works by default in debian (with firmware enabled netboot iso)
[03:12] <DZane> judgen: http://askubuntu.com/questions/257852/ubuntu-12-04-not-recognizing-atheros-ar8161-gigabit-ethernet
[03:12] <MasterRoshi>  
[03:12] <DZane> Take a look at that, see if it applies
[03:13] <DZane> Saw it earlier. I have a similar card in another machine, and was doing research on what I could expect to have issues with before an install
[03:13] <xangua> !nickspam
[03:14] <judgen> i hav  linux-generic-lts-saucy installed.
[03:15] <judgen> 3.11.0-13-generic #20~precise2-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 24
[03:15] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone. Can anyone tell me where mysql db would be stored in ubuntu and also can I somehow copy it and use it on a different machine ?
[03:16] <OlderThanDirt> Judgen: Have you tried this one? http://tinyurl.com/9l29w3p
[03:17] <somsip> Vivekananda: /var/lib/mysql. Copy the entire contents of the db folder in there and it should work
[03:17] <marz> I'm in the middle of customizing gedit, I'm following this website: http://www.micahcarrick.com/gedit-html-editor.html. How do I download an xml file?
[03:19] <somsip> right click in a browser and Save As, or use something ina terminal like 'wget http://www.micahcarrick.com/files/gedit_php_highlight.xml"
[03:19] <Vivekananda> somsip: okay let me try. Also, is there a way I can get a .sql file out of the files in there ? Or do I have to first get it to work and use a tool like mysql workbench to create a .sql dump ?
[03:19] <somsip> Vivekananda: you get a sql dump by using mysqldump
[03:20] <OlderThanDirt> Can anyone recommend a good script editor? Something I can chang /usr/bin/compiz with. gedit didn't like the encoding one bit, and I need to make some edits
[03:20] <somsip> OlderThanDirt: that's a binary file
[03:20] <OlderThanDirt> lol I need to just drop this GUI and go back to a CLI only interface
[03:20] <OlderThanDirt> These icons don't tell me jack squat lol
[03:21] <kriskropd> OlderThanDirt: use vim :D
[03:22] <OlderThanDirt> I was trying to follow an instruction set here: http://tinyurl.com/monlrc3 and when I ran gedit, it hated it
[03:22] <kriskropd> OlderThanDirt: and like somsip said, thats a bianry file, you have to edit the source code after acquiring it and then rebuild it
[03:22] <kriskropd> binary*
[03:22] <OlderThanDirt> hmmm.... sounds like the instructions I got a hold of are bad, or I'm misunderstanding them
[03:22] <OlderThanDirt> Thanks, guys
[03:23] <somsip> OlderThanDirt: well...that guide does says it's a script. I don't have the file myself, but I'm surprised its not a binary
[03:23] <sgo11> hi, in ubuntu 13.10, when I run "modprobe -l", it gives me invalid option error. how can I list all modules? where does "-l" go? thanks.
[03:23] <ki4ro> Should I upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10 or leave it alone?
[03:23] <reisio> sgo11: lsmod
[03:23] <fobelx> i want to get all x11 source packages for ubuntu edgy. how can i do this?
[03:23] <Vivekananda> somsip: there is a file /usr/lib/mysql but there is none /var/lib/mysql
[03:23] <kriskropd> OlderThanDirt: wait a sec, not all files in /bin are compield binaries
[03:24] <sgo11> reisio, lsmod does not return the module I just installed. I used to use "modprobe -l" to check it.
[03:24] <kriskropd> OlderThanDirt: ah nvm, compiz is infact compiled - bad instructions indeed
[03:24] <somsip> Vivekananda: that is likely to be a library and not data. Check /etc/mysql/my.cnf for the location of your data files if it is non-standard
[03:24] <sgo11> reisio, I can see the .ko file under drivers/hid/.
[03:24] <sgo11> reisio, in the old days, modprobe -l will give me that module.
[03:25] <OlderThanDirt> krikropd: I see what you mean
[03:25] <reisio> sgo11: sudo modprobe modulename && lsmod
[03:25] <OlderThanDirt> I wonder if they didn't mean compiz-decorator but it doesn't look like it
[03:25] <danato1> ping Danato
[03:27] <sgo11> reisio, that works. it basically loads the module. but what if I just want to check the modules I installed rather than loading it? thanks.
[03:28] <esuave> can someone please explain to me what lacp_rate does? and how will i benefit using lacp_rate fast vs lacp_rate slow?
[03:28] <OlderThanDirt> kriskropd: I wonder if I shouldn't chuck compiz in favor of something lighter, like metacity
[03:28] <reisio> sgo11: check it for what?
[03:28] <judgen> ok i found out that "linux-backports-modules-cw-3.*" is supposed to carry the alx driver. But it does not. Only one specific version (3.4 appearantly) has it in the package. So i would either have to downgrade or make from source. Rather odd packaging.
[03:28] <reisio> sgo11: its existence?
[03:28] <reisio> sgo11: isn't the .ko evidence enough?
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> ki4ro, Why would you ask us?
[03:29] <OlderThanDirt> I have an ANCIENT Dell Optiplex with the onboard graphics
[03:29] <sgo11> reisio, yeah. its existence. I don't want to find by file. I want "modprobe -l" or similar command. thanks.
[03:29] <kriskropd> OlderThanDirt: i run 'dwm' by suckless ontop of plain ol xorg and everythign works out of the box for me - if i want fancy things I run 'xcompmgr' or 'compton'
[03:29] <sgo11> reisio, I don't understand why "modprobe -l" removed.
[03:29] <kriskropd> OlderThanDirt: that probably is too lighweight for most people though, I know people that don't think it's light enough though XD
[03:29] <ki4ro> wilee-nilee because I´m not sure if it is worth messing with or stay with the LTS version
[03:29] <fritz_> hie people, i installed ubuntu 13.10 on a drive/partition which had linux mint. however i did not format the drive. the problem is that when i try to install using terminal, i get the following message
[03:29] <fritz_> sh: 1: /usr/lib/linuxmint/mintSources/mintSources.py: not found
[03:30] <reisio> sgo11: 'cause someone didn't like it :)
[03:30] <OlderThanDirt> kriskropd: The last time I played with Linux was about 10-ish years ago
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> ki4ro, Really, so subjective opinions will fees a confirmation bias.
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> feed*
[03:30] <pol2588> hola alguien que hable español
[03:30] <sgo11> reisio, :) ok. but why someone doesn't like it....this does not make any sense.
[03:30] <kriskropd> OlderThanDirt: its gotten a lot more bloated, complicated and "user-friendly" since then :)
[03:31] <reisio> sgo11: humans don't make sense, we can check the changelog, though
[03:31] <pol2588> hola alguien que me diga como activar el modo o la interfaz grafica de ubuntu server 12.04
[03:31] <kriskropd> OlderThanDirt: not that I would know, I only started using linux a few years ago
[03:31] <OlderThanDirt> kriskropd: It is what it is
[03:31] <ki4ro> wilee-nilee Huh?
[03:32] <fritz_> hie people, i installed ubuntu 13.10 on a drive/partition which had linux mint. however i did not format the drive. the problem is that when i try to install using terminal, i get the following message
[03:32] <fritz_> sh: 1: /usr/lib/linuxmint/mintSources/mintSources.py: not found
[03:34] <sgo11> reisio, may I ask you some more questions? I installed this module/driver by compiling the kernel and install the new kernel. the module is not loaded by default. how can I let ubuntu load it in every boot? simply add the name to /etc/modules ? is this enough?
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> ki4ro, opinions here are intrinsically, all opinions really and this is confirmation bias. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias  We want you to make your own decisions based on good reason and research.
[03:36] <nezzarioX> So, what is the serious difference between Xubuntu and ubuntu; apt-get install xfce4 ?
[03:36] <xmetal> hmm
[03:37] <xmetal> !xubuntu
[03:37] <OlderThanDirt>      Uses XFCE as the desktop environment     XFCE is a fork of the old GNOME desktop, aimed at being lightweight but still usable.     runs decently on lower end/old hardware     Not exactly "super fast", but better than GNOME/Unity/KDE
[03:37] <marz> How do I apply the dark_mate theme to my gedit. Like this one http://grigio.org/tag/darkmate
[03:37] <danato1> test
[03:37] <OlderThanDirt> Apparently I should be looking at it myself
[03:37] <nezzarioX> so it's literally just ubuntu with xfce4 preinstalled?
[03:37] <OlderThanDirt> Apparently so
[03:37] <xmetal> ubuntu + xfce = xubuntu
[03:37] <xmetal> basically yes
[03:38] <nezzarioX> well t hat doesn't seem to warrent a distro, but I'm not going to argue with you linux guys... ;)
[03:38] <reisio> nezzarioX: and themed a particular way, yup
[03:38] <xmetal> otherwise you download the xfce packages and can use it that way
[03:38] <xangua> OlderThanDirt: xfce a fotk of the old gnome desktop¿ lol
[03:38] <ki4ro> wilee-nilee I´m trying to form an opinion by querying other users
[03:38] <xmetal> the way I downloaded "Ubuntu"/Unity packages for the distro i use
[03:38] <nezzarioX> I was not impressed with iceWM
[03:39] <OlderThanDirt> @reisio: given my old as hell machine, do you think it'd be worth it to switch over to Xubuntu?
[03:39] <nezzarioX> also, not impressed with everybody REALLY wants me to use gdm instead of just logging in on a freaking terminal and typing startx
[03:39] <xmetal> i have to say that though its lagging, i am impressed with lxde
[03:39] <xmetal> er
[03:39] <OlderThanDirt> Or something as lightweight
[03:39] <xmetal> lacking i mean
[03:39] <nezzarioX> OlderThanDirt, I am coming from  you from a celeron with 512mb of RAM
[03:39] <xmetal> not a bad DE (lxde)
[03:39] <nezzarioX> openbox+dillo seems to work well enough to get around
[03:40] <reisio> OlderThanDirt: proc/ram?
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> ki4ro, yes exactly a subjective opinion based on confirmation bias, and by the way this is not a polling channel it is support. You have a clue of some of the differences step up and decide for your self. ;)
[03:40] <xmetal> ack @ 512 ... i'd go with (try it anyway) xfce, lxde or enlightment on that
[03:40] <OlderThanDirt> I'm working with an old Dell Optiplex GX280 with a pentium 4, 1GB of RAM, anda Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL onboard video
[03:40] <Nach0z> lxde <3
[03:40] <nezzarioX> xmetal, i'm installing xfce now
[03:41] <OlderThanDirt> like I said, it's old
[03:41] <xmetal> hmm i have an old pc with 1.79ghz processor and 768 ... was going to try (xfce) on that but that hardware is failing
[03:41] <xmetal> doesn't work 1/2 the time
[03:41] <xmetal> i like xfce... even on my faster PC
[03:41] <xmetal> thats what I like about Linux .. can use w/e dE i feel like at a certain time
[03:41] <xmetal> :)
[03:41] <judgen> nezzarioX, if you want X without having to write startx or load a display manager for login you can always use the "nodm" package.
[03:42] <nezzarioX> judgen, dear god thank you
[03:42] <kriskropd> since we're discussing this, I might ask the question that brought me here a few hours ago that never got answered - does anyone here know which aLL packages need to be purged and removed for xorg?
[03:42] <OlderThanDirt> I can plug away with the 12.04 default GUI, in 2D, but I can't get it to recognize different resolutions
[03:42] <reisio> OlderThanDirt: that should be okay with Ubuntu, but better with Xfce, yeah
[03:42] <kriskropd> I'm fixing a borken xubuntu 12.04 install that updated ins tyle and failed
[03:43] <judgen> nezzarioX, when you install it it tells you to edit a text file to select what user and to enable it (as it is disabled by default)
[03:43] <judgen> nezzarioX, i use it all the time.
[03:44] <OlderThanDirt> reisio: thanks for the info. Like I've mentioned, I've never really gotten to know Linux that well, so I'm a n00b, to use the new word for rookie
[03:44] <nezzarioX>  that's not exactly a new word
[03:44] <nezzarioX> 'word'
[03:45] <OlderThanDirt> rookie has been around a lot longer than n00b, my friend
[03:45] <OlderThanDirt> lol
[03:45] <solomonix> has anyone had any luck installing mumble:i386 on x86_64 Saucy?  I've been smacking into a lot of multilib dependency hell lately :-\
[03:45] <OlderThanDirt> I remember the first time I heard it back in the 90's, and didn't have a clue
[03:45] <reisio> yeah but when I get my time machine I'll fix that
[03:45] <xmetal> i never had that issue with dependencies on ubuntu/mint here ... only slackware
[03:46] <OlderThanDirt> You do that, reisio
[03:46] <nezzarioX> i remember when slackware was cool
[03:46] <xmetal> of course i stick with the package manager versions of software in these versions
[03:46] <nezzarioX> that's about as far as I go
[03:46]  * wilee-nilee waits 10 seconds to see if reisio reappears from that time machine
[03:46] <Danato_> testing
[03:47] <OlderThanDirt> Give me a TARDIS and a sonic screwdriver and set me loose
[03:47] <nezzarioX> speaking of retarded\
[03:47] <Vivekananda> somsip: thanks. I will check /etc/mysql/my.cnf for the image
[03:47] <nezzarioX> i deinstalled some sound management crap on this ubuntu install when I first installed it about 6 mo's ago
[03:47] <OlderThanDirt> nothing retarded about Dr. Who
[03:47] <xmetal> he got lost and went back to 1985 i guess
[03:48] <nezzarioX> i'd really like to watch some media on here tonight if possible, .. how would I go about sound?
[03:48] <Vivekananda> somsip: a question though. If I am a new user how would I know that my.cnf is actually the file I should go to when trying to locate the info for mysql ?
[03:48] <Vivekananda> other than asking you or someone here ?
[03:48] <judgen> nezzarioX, if your sound services got borked. make sure that alsa-tools, alsa-utils and lsb is installed.
[03:48] <nezzarioX> yeah, alsa-tools sounds like what I deinstalled
[03:48] <nezzarioX> 99.9% of the time it sits headless over here
[03:49] <judgen> nezzarioX, alsa uses extremely little power though. Pulse uses a little more, but it runs on top of alsa and is not needed unless you need the extra features.
[03:49] <somsip> Vivekananda: you read about the software you are using to find out how it works
[03:50] <nezzarioX> i just need stereo sound through this ancient onboard audio
[03:50] <nezzarioX> with vlc
[03:50] <judgen> nezzarioX, then alsa would do fine. Remember to look in the vlc preferences that it uses a output plugin that you have installed on the system
[03:51] <nezzarioX> i don't think the kernel sees the audio device though
[03:51] <judgen> i never use pulse as sound crackles even with the tsched tricgger set.
[03:51] <judgen> nezzarioX, is it listed in lspci?
[03:52] <Vivekananda> so I read about mysql to find it out right ?
[03:52] <judgen> time for a reboot for me.. hopefully my driver issues will be solved now
[03:52] <nezzarioX> sorry, the kernel sees it, .. AC'97 Audio Controller Intel Corp 82801DB/DBL/DBM
[03:52] <somsip> Vivekananda: or you can come on irc and ask other people to tell you want you need to know.
[03:52] <nezzarioX> damn this thing is ancient
[03:54] <Vivekananda> somsip: yep I know :) but that stumps my own action and thinking coz it is easy answer :)
[03:54] <somsip> Vivekananda: depends on how self-reliant you are then. Some people clearly come on here with no evidence that they've tried to find something out for themselves.
[03:55] <Nautilus> Vivek: googling the right things helps greatly  ...
[03:55] <Nautilus> for example, installing SQL?   search on: mysql configure ubuntu
[03:55] <nezzarioX> Vivekananda, wfirefox &
[03:55] <nezzarioX> crap i'm sorry
[03:56] <gharz> hi, guys... need your help. everytime i open a terminal... the first line says "eport: command not found"... i wonder where this comes from? checked the .bashrc but couldn't find it. any idea?
[03:56] <Vivekananda> Nautilus: thanks :)
[03:56] <Vivekananda> nezzarioX: np
[03:57] <somsip> gharz: .bash_aliases maybe?
[03:57] <racho> gharz, you sure there is an export typed as eport?
[03:57] <IcemanV9> gharz: eport should be export
[03:58] <gharz> racho: and it could be in .bashrc?
[03:58] <racho> y
[03:58] <marz> How do i apply a theme to gedit permanently?
[03:58] <gharz> racho: omg!!!!!! you are correct!!!!!!
[03:59] <gharz> on the last line of my .bashrc i added an export path blah blah... you are so awesome! thank you! thanks IcemanV9
[03:59] <Rallias> What debug commands can I run on openvswitch to figure out why it isn't working?
[04:06] <ldnn> hi
[04:06] <Nautilus> i've installed vsftp and am wondering if I can disable FTP access (SFTP only)?
[04:06] <ldnn> Does anyone know where to put startup scripts in Ubuntu?
[04:07] <Flannel> Nautilus: Yes, uninstall vsftp.  Instead, install openssh-server, which will give you SFTP automagically (unless you want to do it with virtual users, then it won't be automagic)
[04:07] <nezzarioX> Nautilus, ubuntu doesn't come with any ftp by default.. if you mean vsftp, uninstall it or remove it from startup
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> ldnn, does it need admin?
[04:07] <nezzarioX> ldnn, /etc/rc.local is good for simple things
[04:08] <ldnn> nezzarioX, much appreciated
[04:08] <nezzarioX> ok sound is not working
[04:08] <nezzarioX> do I need to start/stop soming after instlaling alsa-tools alsa-utils and lsb ?
[04:08] <ldnn> not really. I just need to load System Load Indicator on startup
[04:08] <nezzarioX> ok, not the right place for window management stuff
[04:09] <nezzarioX> check your WM's startup script,
[04:09] <nezzarioX> is xinitrc still used?
[04:09] <nezzarioX> i'm a little out of date
[04:10] <Nautilus> so, no vsftp eh? ...
[04:10] <ldnn> window manager startup script?
[04:11] <Flannel> Nautilus: You could, but it's a pain if you just want sftp for semi-personal use (commercial/strangers/etc is a different story, slightly)
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> ldnn, startup applications which needs a command to fill with whats already there.
[04:11] <Nautilus> personal use yes
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> ldnn, which is sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[04:12] <nezzarioX> i'm lost
[04:12] <Nautilus> here's something I don't understand ... OpenSSH wants me to make a key. How did I setup vsftp and am using Filezille via "SFTP using SSH2" without making a key?
[04:13] <Flannel> Nautilus: Yeah, just remove vsftp and install openssh-server, and then log in.
[04:13] <somsip> Nautilus: if you are using Filezilla and want to copy files securely, just use scp
[04:13] <Flannel> somsip: Filezilla will do sftp just fine.
[04:14] <Nautilus> how does it work when I haven't made a key on the VPS?
[04:14] <somsip> Flannel: indeed, but if he's having problems setting up SFTP maybe easier to work around the problem, is what I was thinking
[04:14] <Nautilus> SFTP is working fine, so does FTP
[04:14] <Nautilus> I just dont want to allow FTP
[04:14] <somsip> Nautilus: fair enough
[04:15] <Nautilus> mostly, so *I* myself don't forget to use SFTP ;)
[04:15] <Flannel> Nautilus: These aren't login/authentication keys, these are "I am server X" keys.
[04:15] <ldnn> For example: to load the System Load Indicator on startup
[04:15] <ldnn> is sed necessary for that case?
[04:15] <Flannel> Nautilus: So, the various pieces must've just created them, or used default ones, or whatever.  I'm not familiar with vsftp, so I can't speak to it exactly.
[04:16] <yuchi> Hello, I installed Lubuntu but cannot get into any GUI. After I startup, the screen continues to flash. I am able to get out using Ctrl+Alt+F1, where I am now. Thanks for any help.
[04:16] <Nautilus> Flannel: I noticed the same thing with shell... at my brothers we just logged in with: ssh username@1.2.3.4
[04:16] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|yuchi,
[04:16] <Nautilus> Flannel: again, no key. So maybe a default one.   (snakeoil?)
[04:17] <yuchi> cfhowlett: Thank you.
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> yuchi, Boot in with the nomodeset option and check the graphic drivers.
[04:17] <Nautilus> Flannel: Ah, "I am server X" keys ... hm, trying to grok the distinction
[04:17] <OlderThanDirt> So.... XFCE beats out Unity in terms of speed of loading, feel, etc..... but I'm still unable to raise my resolution past 1024 * 768
[04:18] <ldnn> thanks for the help
[04:18] <ldnn> night
[04:18] <Nautilus> OlderThanDirt: sounds like a hardware limit
[04:18] <yuchi> wilee-nilee: I will try that, thank you.
[04:18] <OlderThanDirt> Nautilus: I'm thinking so, all things considered
[04:18] <Nautilus> 1024x768 being a common max on old gfx hardware
[04:18] <OlderThanDirt> it IS ancient tech, compared to the machine I have sitting next to it
[04:19] <{-r-}> There is a red triangle with a ! in it, and when I try to update my computer it come up with Failed to download repository information, Check your Internet connection.
[04:19] <Nautilus> I bet there are no 16:9 res's
[04:19] <OlderThanDirt> Not a one, no
[04:19] <Nautilus> sounds like 1024x768 hardware to me then
[04:19] <OlderThanDirt> It's an old Optiplex GX280
[04:19] <racho> OlderThanDirt, you could see if it actually can support more with xrandr although i suppose not. you may event try to force a new mode through xrandr but prepare for unforeseen consequences
[04:20]  * Nautilus put a cheapie gfx card in his old dell to go with the 16:9 LCD
[04:20] <OlderThanDirt> !xrandr
[04:21] <OlderThanDirt> racho: not really looking for dual screens, just decent output to my display. I have my old Ubuntu dog here and my primary Windows/Hackintosh/Mint unit tied together on a KVM switch
[04:22] <Flannel> Nautilus: Yeah, could be snakeoil.  Check the configuration files.
[04:22] <OlderThanDirt> Still, it looks a whole lot more useable with XFCE than it did with Unity2D
[04:22] <fobelx> hi. i need help locating a package. i need cntlm deb package for ubuntu 6.10 (edgy eft). i have been unable to locate it.
[04:22] <cfhowlett> OlderThanDirt, you hackintoshed that optiplex!?
[04:22] <racho> OlderThanDirt, you can use xrandr for more than dual screen imaging.
[04:23] <OlderThanDirt> cfhowlett: No, dude
[04:23] <Flannel> fobelx: Why 6.10, might I ask?
[04:24] <fobelx> Flannel: its hard to answer that.
[04:24] <fobelx> Flannel: it is a long story.
[04:24] <Flannel> fobelx: I'm sure there's a good answer, and you're aware that 6.10 isn't supported anymore, so no security fixes (for a number of years) and all that, right?
[04:25] <fobelx> Flannel: sure. i understand.
[04:25] <Flannel> fobelx: OK, so.  With that out of the way.  Is that package not in the repositories?
[04:25] <OlderThanDirt> I Hackintoshed the main unit I have; it's a Franken-puter with a 3.5GHz quad core processor and 16GB of RAM, with a BS little Sapphire card in it
[04:26] <fobelx> i found a few version at this location http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/cntlm/
[04:26] <fobelx> Flannel: i am unsure how to look at only edgy eft ones...
[04:26] <OlderThanDirt> Had to find someone willing to help me port the kernel from an AMD-modded VMWare image of 10.8.5
[04:26] <Flannel> fobelx: Right, so you should migrate all of your archives to old-releases.ubuntu.com (instead of archive.ubuntu.com)
[04:27] <cfhowlett> OlderThanDirt, impressive.  most impressive.
[04:27] <Flannel> fobelx: That is, your package archives (sources.list and all that jazz).  That'll give you access to the edgy repositories, and we'll go from there.
[04:27] <OlderThanDirt> cfhowlett: It's all a matter of asking the right questions of the right people
[04:27] <OlderThanDirt> That and being willing to break things
[04:28] <OlderThanDirt> I've been breaking computers and OS's since the late 70's, and I've never looked back
[04:28] <OlderThanDirt> But I have learned a lot along the way, you know?
[04:28] <fobelx> Flannel: i should tell you i am sitting behind and internet proxy and cannot use debian package manager to download source...
[04:28] <fobelx> Flannel: so i was looking for a way to get it via the web.
[04:28] <Flannel> fobelx: What about regular packages?  Also, why does a proxy preclude you from that?  (That's really annoying)
[04:29] <OlderThanDirt> ^
[04:29] <Flannel> fobelx: But, that's fine, you can still browse the package archives manually there, just like from anywhere else.
[04:30] <Flannel> fobelx: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ would be where you'd start, and then you can do the apt-get thing manually, looking at the gz for the package names (the version for edgy, if it exists) and then go there and snag it, etc.
[04:30] <fobelx> Flannel: thanks. i'll give that a try.
[04:30] <pirret> i don't understan, why you cannot use that proxy for package manager
[04:32] <DaemeonZane> How does one go about getting their IP obscured on here, anyway?
[04:33] <reisio> DaemeonZane: ask #freenode
[04:34] <DaemeonZane> reisio: I answered my question about 2 seconds after I asked...
[04:34] <DaemeonZane> I figure there's an Ubuntu channel, why not a Freenode chan?
[04:35] <reisio> :)
[04:36] <Nautilus> also see the server login: Please join #freenode for any network-related questions     :)
[04:38] <LuisGeree> hi i have a problem, i use ubuntu 13.10. In all webs on firefox that i have the option "login with facebook" it didn't works. How can i fix them? i try with openjdk and java from oracle but it don't fix that. (sorry for my english)
[04:39] <theleft> sounds like an internet or browser issue LuisGeree, not os-related
[04:40] <LuisGeree> i have the same problem with chrominium
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> LuisGeree, Firefox removed the auto login saves a little while back.
[04:41] <theleft> and the only problem you have is that you cannot log into facebook?
[04:42] <LuisGeree> no, i can log on facebook. But in other webs (for example www.jango.com, it's for music) i can't use the bottom "login with facebook" it didn't works
[04:42] <cfhowlett> LuisGeree, open a web browser.  login to facebook.  fiixed
[04:42] <theleft> lol
[04:43] <theleft> i still really doubt that error has anything to do with your operating system LuisGeree
[04:43] <LuisGeree> i'm login on facebook, but i didn't use the option "login with facebook" in any other link
[04:43] <theleft> maybe ask your browser devs or facebook for support
[04:44] <esr> I need helo using the alternattives system; Google searches aren't giving me good hits.  I have both xfce-notifyd and notify-osd entalled; the former is enabled, I want to switch to the latter.
[04:44] <cfhowlett> LuisGeree, you do know that you have to authorize other apps within facebook, right?
[04:45] <LuisGeree> i try the same web on a pc with windows and it works
[04:45] <LuisGeree> yes
[04:45] <theleft> that is probably why cfhowlett. i don't know much about facebook since this isn't #facebook
[04:45] <esr> s/entalled/installed/  Excuse my typos.
[04:45] <LuisGeree> of course, i use this option in other pc with windows, only on ubuntu i can't use that
[04:45] <Danato> GUIDE
[04:46] <cfhowlett> Danato, eh?  what?
[04:47] <Danato> cfhowlett idk i jst used ctrl+shift+v (i think) on weechat
[04:48] <Danato> or maybe it was something close to that
[04:48] <kostkon> Danato: shortcut for... paste?
[04:48] <theleft> if i have my / and swap set to the proper UUIDs in fstab, should i worry that the drive was kicked off sda? can i just keep my 2nd drive on sda and not worry about it?
[04:48] <LuisGeree> i don't know if you can't understandme at all, i going to say it on spanish. No puedo usar la opción "login with facebook(iniciar sesión con facebook)" en ninguna página web que lo tenga. Uso firefox y chrominium y en ellos no funciona.
[04:48] <LuisGeree> desde una pc con windows si funciona esa opción. Alguien sabe como puedo resolverlo?
[04:48] <Danato> kostkon: yeah that was the idea, but i probably missed some key, or misstyped something
[04:48] <LuisGeree> thanks =D
[04:49] <theleft> i think we understand you but unfortunately there is not much we can do to support facebook/browser issues. just because it works on windows doesn't mean it is a linux issue
[04:49] <theleft> LuisGeree,
[04:49] <theleft> "login with facebook" has nothing to do with you os. i'm sure of it
[04:50] <theleft> maybe if you were having internet connectivity issues in general we could talk
[04:50] <LuisGeree> oh, and everyone who want to use this option can do it?
[04:50] <cfhowlett> !es
[04:50] <cfhowlett> LuisGeree, we understand.  it's a facebook problem.  we don't care.
[04:51] <theleft> ^
[04:51] <LuisGeree> nobody it's talkink on ubuntu-es
[04:51] <esr> Hello?  Can I get help with an *Ubuntu* problem? :-)
[04:51] <LuisGeree> oh thanks, that's what i want to know, if the problem is for everyone o i can fix that
[04:51] <LuisGeree> thaks
[04:52] <Paulus68_1> !ask|esr
[04:53] <esr> I need help using the alternattives system; Google searches aren't giving me good hits.  I have both xfce-notifyd and notify-osd installed; the former is enabled, I want to switch to the latter.
[04:54] <esr> Is there a man page I should read, and if so what?
[04:54] <kostkon> esr: open a terminal, type update- and then press tab
[04:55] <esr> I see many alternatives
[04:55] <esr> Ah, is it update-alternatives
[04:55] <esr> ?
[04:55] <kostkon> esr: updtae-x-alternatives
[04:56] <cfhowlett> -
[04:56] <kostkon> esr: e.g update-java-alternatives
[04:56] <fobelx> Flannel: thanks so much. i got cntlm installed on ubuntu 6.10. :)
[04:56] <Flannel> fobelx: Good to hear.
[04:58] <esr> No such command as update-notification-daemon-alternatives
[04:59] <reisio> thank god
[05:00] <esr> Both notify-osd and xfce-notifyd provide 'notification-daemon'; that's about the only clue I have here.
[05:01] <sashah> can I make abiword tell me WHY the grammar checker doesn't like something I wrote?
[05:02] <joossee> sashah, paste it
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> sashah, There are some good grammer checkers on line. here is one, the best I think. http://www.grammarly.com/
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> they all have limitations a editor can do though
[05:05] <cfhowlett> sashah, not a functionality that is included.
[05:08] <Guest7280> 在吗？
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> !cs
[05:09] <cfhowlett> !c
[05:09] <cfhowlett> !cn
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> !cn
[05:10] <sashah> cfhowlett: thank you very much
[05:14] <oaulakh> helo
[05:14] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, greetings
[05:15] <oaulakh> i'm facing swap problem again
[05:15] <Guest87436> 你妈逼  草  这杂用啊
[05:15] <cfhowlett> !swap
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> !cn | Guest87436
[05:16] <oaulakh> means when i first install ubnutu i did not give swap space to system
[05:16] <oaulakh> but now i have the space
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, Did you add the swap to fstab?
[05:17] <oaulakh> helo wilee-nilee
[05:17] <oaulakh> you know first it was solved
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, Last time you were here sda2 was a swap, did you add it to fstab?
[05:18] <oaulakh> but every time when i start system, it need swap space
[05:18] <oaulakh> no
[05:18] <oaulakh> last time i sought that problem with gparted
[05:19] <oaulakh> but when ever sytem reboot i have to configure it again
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, I showed you mine and explained the uuid and you were sent at least 2 bot messages on fstab.
[05:19] <oaulakh> i get my uuid
[05:20] <oaulakh> but how i add it to fstab
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, run sudo blkid and pastebin it I will give you the command to open fstab and the notation for it.
[05:20] <oaulakh> okk
[05:23] <oaulakh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6414290/
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, To open fstab run     gksudo gedit /etc/fstab     and put this there       UUID=595ae3d8-ad9a-473e-8181-0147ea5fadfd none            swap    sw              0       0
[05:25] <oaulakh> gksudo not installed
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, the error says install gksu right?
[05:25] <oaulakh> yeah
[05:25] <oaulakh> can i run it with sudo
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, sudo apt-get install gksu   then run what I showed.
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, IN general gksudo is for gui's but a good default anyway.
[05:28] <oaulakh> done
[05:28] <oaulakh> now should i restart?
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, You can, but now fstab will mount on staring the OS.
[05:29] <oaulakh> thanks again buddy
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[05:29] <oaulakh> going to restart
[05:29] <oaulakh> pc
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> peace
[05:36] <oaulakh> thanks wilee-nilee  now  its showing me swap space
[05:36] <oaulakh> on default boot
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, Excellent, so you know now if lets say you wanted another partition or HD to be auto mounted you add it to fstab.
[05:37] <oaulakh> yeah now i know
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, If you open fstab you will see your main ubuntu partition already there.
[05:37] <oaulakh> yeah i see it
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> cool, enjoy. ;)
[05:37] <oaulakh> that was like ext4
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> yep
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, You can also instead of having the UUID just have the partition like this /dev/sda2 for the swap.
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> the UUID only is replaced by that the rest is the same for the sap.
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> swap
[05:41] <oaulakh> okk
[05:41] <oaulakh> i got it
[05:42] <oaulakh> you means if we hav'nt uuid we still can add swap to fstab
[05:42] <oaulakh> with device location like /dev/sda2, right?
[05:44] <somsip> oaulakh: using UUID means that if you move drives around for any reason, they still mount correctly. Using /dev/sdXX is less flexible
[05:44] <oaulakh> okkk
[05:44] <oaulakh> then i think uuid is better than location
[05:49] <oaulakh> gud nyt
[05:50] <AlecTaylor> hi
[05:50]  * AlecTaylor installed ubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu 13.10 server; and was wondering how to prevent X from automatically starting
[05:51] <AlecTaylor> How do I prevent X from automatically starting on Ubuntu 13.10 server?
[05:52] <apb1963> what are people using as a yahoo messenger client?  empathy?  kopete?  pidgin?  Do any of these work?  I can't get the first two to login, and am thinking about trying the third but thought I'd ask here first if anyone has had success with any of these?
[05:53] <apb1963> ubuntu 12.04 for the record.
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[05:56] <cpined> hi
[05:57] <cpined> how can I overcome this: checking for python extension module directory... ${exec_prefix}/lib/python2.7/site-packages
[05:57] <cpined> checking for headers required to compile python extensions... not found
[05:57] <cpined> configure: error: could not find Python headers
[05:59] <zykotick9> somsip: i prefer LABELS to UUIDs myself...
[06:01] <somsip> zykotick9: not something I've used. I need to rebuild for 14.04 so will look at these then
[06:02] <excellence>  Ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso installed. But ....security key,passwordがinputできない。recovery modeでrebootすると、...Enter pathphrase
[06:10] <excellence> ...Enter pathphrase [   2.922483] Switched to Clocksouce tsc.と表示されました。There is no help for it.   help me .
[06:11] <shivam> testing...
[06:11] <shivam> testing irssi... can anybody see this
[06:12] <neirpyc> yes
[06:12] <somsip> !test | shivam
[06:23] <noobster> hi all!
[06:23] <noobster> I have been having allot of issues with the Ubuntu 12.04 NFS client having very slow write speeds and freezing up the server for mins at a time. Has anyone heard anything like this, or know some troubleshooting tips?
[06:23] <noobster> right now I am getting 284 MBytes/sec iperf network speeds & 98789319 bytes/sec with dd if=/dev/zero of=temp.dat bs=1024k count=25k on my FreeBSD mirror
[06:24] <noobster> any insight would be greatly appreciated.
[06:24] <noobster> just some background I am seeing this same issue with FreeBSD > Ubuntu12.04 & Ubuntu12.04 > Ubuntu12.04
[06:25] <noobster> my fstab is..  10.0.3.3:/mnt/data  /home/shares    nfs     nobootwait,rw,addr=10.0.3.3 0 0
[06:29] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[06:33] <joobz> guys, how do i access the terminal / bash / cli from the ubuntu live cd?
[06:33] <joobz> i'm sitting at the gui desktop, cant find how to do it
[06:33] <makara> my default shell was sh, and I would enter bash manually. I changed bash as the default shell, but now it won't load colour. What 2 do?
[06:33] <joobz> i tried running /bin/bash but that didnt work..
[06:33] <makara> joobz, ctrl+alt+T
[06:34] <joobz> thanks
[06:34] <joobz> how sad is that.. cant find a shell on a linux OS :/
[06:35] <makara> that's a gnome virtual terminal, or you can get an actual TTY with ctrl+alt+F1, F2, F3
[06:35] <makara> lightdm (GUI) is loaded in no 7
[06:35] <makara> very sad
[06:35] <Ari-Yang> joobz: dash board search 'terminal' done
[06:36] <Ari-Yang> or ctrl alt T like what makara said
[06:36] <joobz> should be an icon on the desktop or taskbar for it
[06:37] <moppy> joobz, unity has a dash now. click in the top left then type in 'terminal' and it will find it
[06:37] <moppy> joobz, once yo have loaded it for the first time, then you can lock it to the launcher bar if you like the old legacy interface
[06:38] <joobz> cool
[06:38] <joobz> thanks
[06:38] <moppy> Basicalyl how unity works is they want to pretend the smart search function of the dash is the star trek computer and that you can type or speak into the bar and it'll work out what you want, and do it
[06:39] <moppy> (And it actualyl do it in enabled applications like GIMP)
[06:39] <joobz> sounds like spotlight in mac
[06:41] <moppy> can spotlight drive an app yet?
[06:41] <moppy> so i wanted to cut and paste, would it do it?
[06:43] <moppy> coz like, unity does it ... don't think it's like spotlight
[06:48] <joobz> moppy, when you say drive an app, do you mean run an app?
[06:50] <moppy> joobz, If a program builds in support for it, you can operate the program's menu bar via the dash. For example in gimp you type in "convert" and it will open the image file format conversion menu etc
[06:51] <joobz> no you can't with spotlight
[06:53] <joobz> moppy, how can i install synaptic on the 13.0 livecd?
[06:54] <joobz> i tried apt-get install synaptic and it didnt work.. i want hfsprogs, but it's not coming down from apt
[06:54] <moppy> the package manager?
[06:54] <IJNX> any idea how to run my own daemon with init.d scripts with different username?
[06:54] <IJNX> ie. restricted user
[06:54] <moppy> whe you say "didnt work" what error did you get? i assume you tried it with sudo?
[06:54] <joobz> ya
[06:54] <IJNX> I keep hitting EACCES for log and pid file.
[06:54] <joobz> it just didnt find the package
[06:55] <joobz> i was going to try see if all my repos are checked.. also did an apt-get update and it didnt find it after that either
[06:55] <moppy> in ubuntu it is : "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[06:55] <joobz> didnt work
[06:55] <joobz> cant find it
[06:55] <moppy> Not sure if you have all the repos enabled then
[06:56] <moppy> the settings icon for the software updater has a thing to enable repos
[06:56] <moppy> synaptic is in ubuntu software centre as well
[06:58] <joobz> that's weird
[06:58] <joobz> apt-get update does its thing, completes successfully
[06:59] <joobz> then software updater says there's 137MB of updates to go
[06:59] <joobz> moppy, my end goal is to install hfsprogs package - what is the easiest way to do this?
[06:59] <joobz> i am reading that i need to run synaptics to enable all my repos, which should let me install hfsprogs
[07:00] <moppy> update doesnt install software, it just updates the database
[07:00] <joobz> which database?
[07:00] <moppy> you need apt-get upgrade afterwards to actually pull down the upgrades
[07:00] <tozen> joobz: change updates server to Main in update-manager Settings then try to update one again and see what will happen with installation
[07:01] <tozen> *once again
[07:01] <joobz> ok
[07:01] <joobz> it is currently updating that 137MB of data
[07:01] <moppy> joobz, I dont understand why you don't use the gui software updater if you are not familiar with the terminal
[07:01] <joobz> .. but it was set to Main before i got in here
[07:01] <tozen> joobz: ok
[07:01] <joobz> moppy, i prefer terminal.. just i use ports and rpm more so than apt
[07:04] <Danato> how do turn a screen off using xrandr?
[07:05] <joobz> that's funny
[07:06] <joobz> after completing the software upgrade of 137MB via the gui, it said i need to restart
[07:06] <Danato> nvm, got it
[07:06] <joobz> .. im using a live cd :)
[07:06] <moppy> joobz, yum list updates is "apt-get update" and "yum upgrade" is "apt-get upgrade"
[07:06] <Danato> hehehehe
[07:06] <moppy> joobz, the livecd has a persistant filesystem on it, it can update itself
[07:06] <joobz> but when i reboot
[07:06] <joobz> it goes right?
[07:06] <moppy> *yum update sorry
[07:06] <moppy> no it doesnt go
[07:07] <moppy> you;re updating the livecd
[07:07] <joobz> where is it storing that 137MB ?
[07:07] <joobz> the livecd is readonly?
[07:07] <moppy> on the usb of course
[07:07] <joobz> it's a DVD
[07:07] <moppy> oh sorry ... didnt realise you had opticals
[07:07] <moppy> my mistake, i dont use them anymore. sorry.
[07:08] <joobz> all good :)
[07:08] <joobz> apt-get update seems to be doing more this time
[07:08] <moppy> i dont have any optical drives left. none of my laptops have them.
[07:09] <joobz> ya.. we have an external drive for this
[07:09] <joobz> as often laptops are without these days
[07:09] <joobz> kinda like our USB floppy disk drive, for windows drivers on installation
[07:10] <moppy> i think apart from game consoles i havent touched an optical disk in several years
[07:13] <guidov> hey, the update manager just popped up and i agreed to install the updates, now it hangs at a certain step, what to do?
[07:14] <Danato> i only use the optical drive to install OSs
[07:14] <alissd> poweroff the machine :)
[07:14] <guidov> it's at running post-installation trigger update-notifier-common
[07:15] <guidov> oh it's done now
[07:15] <guidov> that took like 5 minutes though
[07:15] <guidov> at the flash plugin
[07:15] <alissd> type  'apt-get update' & "apt-get upgrade" in the terminal, rather than using the update manager.
[07:16] <alissd> the update manager sometimes get jamed, especially in 12.04
[07:20] <TsukasaUjiie> so, weird problem at the moment, configuring an instance of 13.04 (cloud-image builds) with vagrant, but for the life of me I cant get postgres to start at boot, I called update-rc.d postgresql defaults and enable, but I have to manually service postgresql start at each boot. any ideas?
[07:20] <TsukasaUjiie> same problem for rabbitmq (neither start)
[07:24] <TsukasaUjiie> actually neither is nginx...
[07:27] <mat619> Hi everyone! Anyone happen to know if you can use display color profiles created made in OSX with Ubuntu on a Mac?
[07:30] <kishan> hi
[07:31] <mat619> Besides, what Ubuntu-based distro would you recommend for use on a PowerPC system? IIRC unity was reported to be quite a PITA on PPC
[07:32] <mat619> Most people seem to recommend Lubuntu, but I don't terribly like LXDE very much :(
[07:33] <kishan> is there any operating system simulation tools for linux?
[07:34] <mat619> kishan: What do you mean with "simulation tools"?
[07:34] <mat619> kishan: Or rather, what exactly do you want to do?
[07:35] <smoke> how do i check the status of an ssh trasnfer on the ssh server side?
[07:35] <kishan> \we can simulate algorithm of scheduling ,virtual memory
[07:44] <faryshta> hi. i installed tor browser using this commands http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-tor-browser-bundle-on-ubuntu-and-linux-mint/
[07:44] <faryshta> but tor-browser doesn't run
[07:45] <auronandace> faryshta: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:45] <Kartagis> I am using ubuntu 13.10, and whenever I get a notification from skype, my sound card goes 'buzzzzz'. any ideas?
[07:46] <cfhowlett> Kartagis, go into skype, turn off sound notification
[07:46] <Kartagis> cfhowlett: I did that, but is there a way to fix that?
[07:48] <faryshta> auronandace, 12.10. but i found the problem. its not on the internet menu but on the others menu
[07:49] <cfhowlett> Kartagis, could be  a system sound setting, but I'm on xubuntu so different setup than you
[08:01] <sgo11> hi, I used "fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic" to build the kernel. Now, I need to change one .c file in drivers/hid/. how just want to make this change. is that possible to build it again without recompiling from the start? thanks a lot.
[08:03] <Sam_____> is it question time?? I'm running ubuntu 12.03 server with Samba, my Window user complain that when user A creates a file user B can not modify the file and resave it. I have set the permissions to 0777 on the file and still have the same problem? can anobody help ?
[08:03] <cfhowlett> !server|!sam____
[08:04] <sgo11> any ubuntu expert here? recompiling from start will take 2 hours. please let me know if I can just build the change. thanks a lot.
[08:08] <cleansweep> Hi, I'm trying to figure out the permissions setup on my apache2 install. I've setup a VM with 12LTS and installed apache2. It installed the /var/www directory as root|root. What's the recommend way for me to setup /www so that I can edit without switching to root?
[08:09] <cleansweep> Any thoughts?
[08:10] <cjmactheknife> cleansweep: normally apache2 runs as user/group www-data:www-data, so I'd say set the owner and group to that for a start
[08:11] <cjmactheknife> cleansweep: if you then put your user in the www-data group and ensure the files are group +rw, you will be able to edit them
[08:12] <gvo> sgo11 just make your change and "make"
[08:12] <cleansweep> hi cjmactheknife, I read one webpage where they recommended you do that but doesn't it open up security issues?
[08:12] <gvo> sgo11: as long as you don't reconfigure, you can change source files and run make again.
[08:13] <sgo11> gvo, after make, what else should I do? since I followed this link "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel" and build the kernel with the command "fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic". thanks.
[08:13] <cleansweep> so your apache server can modify pages in the /www directory
[08:14] <gvo> sgo11: I'm not sure what that script does.
[08:14] <sgo11> gvo, maybe I should simply run "fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic" this again.
[08:14] <gvo> Try it.
[08:14] <cjmactheknife> cleansweep: well, another option is to make sure the group is www-data and you're the owner, and just don't give group write permission, just read (and execute on directories, so it can traverse them)
[08:15] <cleansweep> It's not really an issue because I'm the only one who will see this server and the code will be pushed to a remote server with a different setup
[08:15] <sgo11> gvo, thanks. I am trying it now...
[08:15] <sgo11> gvo, how can I make sure that change gets compiled?
[08:15] <cleansweep> but I would like to understand what's gong on
[08:16] <gvo> Search for the *.o file that has the same name as the *.c file you changed.  If the timestamp is newer than the *.c file, it worked.
[08:17] <sgo11> gvo, thanks. I was thinking about that too. where does those .o files store?
[08:17] <gvo> often in the same directory as the .c
[08:18] <sgo11> gvo, by running the command again, I got this error now: "/home/user1/kernel/3.5.0/linux-3.5.0 is not clean, please run 'make mrproper'"
[08:19] <gvo> sgo11 what directory are you in?
[08:19] <sgo11> gvo, in the directory I was compiling the kernel successfully last time.
[08:20] <gvo> sgo11 not helpful, what directory specifically
[08:20] <cleansweep> cjmactheknife okay, I've changed the owner but left the group as root.Tested it, seems to have worked. Thanks for your help
[08:20] <sgo11> gvo, /home/user1/kernel/3.5.0/linux-3.5.0
[08:21] <gvo> sgo11: Good. just run fakeroot make mrproper
[08:21] <sgo11> gvo, may I ask what will that do? thanks a lot.
[08:21] <gvo> sgo11 I don't know exactly but since that's what has to be done, do it.
[08:22] <ogzy> hwo can i open logo report view file format?
[08:22] <gvo> sgo11 Oops, that is the same as a clen.
[08:23] <gvo> clean
[08:23] <gvo> might not want to run it.
[08:23] <sgo11> gvo, i haven't run it yet.
[08:23] <gvo> sgo11 OK try running a fakeroot make
[08:24] <sgo11> gvo, error : "Configuration file ".config" not found!"...
[08:24] <gvo> sgo11 Apparently the script wants to start over.
[08:25] <gvo> hm.
[08:26] <sgo11> gvo, maybe I just compile it again from start. clean first....
[08:26] <gvo> It's been a long time since I recomple a kernel.
[08:26] <teisei> Hello everybody!
[08:27] <gvo> sgo11 yes, do the make mrproper first to clean and then try the build again.
[08:27] <gvo> After the mrproper make sure your change is still there.
[08:27] <mib_ykk7yg> hi
[08:27] <mib_ykk7yg> I need help
[08:27] <mib_ykk7yg> '
[08:28] <aeon-ltd> mib_ykk7yg: ask your question to the channel and wait
[08:28] <sgo11> gvo, I just added one hid module. where can I check it?
[08:28] <gvo> wherever you added it.
[08:29] <teisei> I have a mouse with so-called Rapid Fire button. Is there a way to make it function like a normal mouse button? I don't need the double or triple click feature.
[08:29] <labeebahmad32> hi i need help
[08:30] <aeon-ltd> labeebahmad32: ask
[08:30] <labeebahmad32> labeeb@Labeeb-PC:~$ sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process labeeb@Labeeb-PC:~$
[08:30] <teisei> Xev and xinput test recognizes the Rapid Fire key as two or three mouse button 1 clicks
[08:30] <labeebahmad32> this happens in last step of chrome installation
[08:30] <labeebahmad32> labeeb@Labeeb-PC:~$ sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process labeeb@Labeeb-PC:~$
[08:31] <gvo> labeebahmad32: did you type that in or did it come from a script?
[08:31] <labeebahmad32> help me plz
[08:32] <ola2> how to copy ppa repository
[08:32] <labeebahmad32> i typed    sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[08:32] <labeebahmad32> and result came isdpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process
[08:32] <ola2> how to copy ppa repository
[08:33] <gvo> labeebahmad32: So it sounds like something else is running.
[08:33] <labeebahmad32> ok
[08:33] <gvo> labeebahmad32: Do you have another package manager running?  Like Synaptic?
[08:33] <labeebahmad32> i dont know
[08:33] <teisei> labeebahmad32: sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:34] <labeebahmad32> shud i try this?
[08:34] <teisei> It removes the dpkg lock
[08:34] <gvo> labeebahmad32: teisei OK as long as nothing is running.
[08:34] <teisei> Yes indeed I forgot to mention that
[08:34] <teisei> Make sure synaptic or update-manager is not running
[08:35] <labeebahmad32> update manager is running
[08:35] <gvo> labeebahmad32: stop it
[08:35] <teisei> You may want to let it finish or kill it
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> labeebahmad32, You can't run two different installs at thew same time, let the update manager finish.
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> ola2, What do you mean "copy ppa repository"?
[08:45] <gvo> labeebahmad32: or let it finish.
[08:45] <labeebahmad32> its about to finish
[08:45] <sl1ck> my grub screen is sluggish, how do I make it less 'graphicy' and more robust?
[08:45] <gvo> labeebahmad32: when it finishes you can rerun the dpkg
[08:45] <labeebahmad32> ok thanx
[08:45] <ola2> how to copy ppa repository
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> ola2, What is your end goal?
[08:47] <M00sL0gB0t> ...
[08:47] <M00sL0gB0t> ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/willie/coretasks.py", line 132, in track_modes)
[08:47] <elementary> Hello everybody. How do I system-wide force the output of grep to be colorful?
[08:48] <gvo> alias grep='grep --color=auto' put that in a system profile
[08:49] <gvo> like /etc/profile
[08:51] <elementary> gvo: Ok, understood. Thanks gvo :)
[08:56] <faryshta> which is the best way to connect to tor? i am trying vidalia but so far all fails
[08:57] <DJones> !tor | faryshta Not something I use, but hopefully the bot's info will help,
[08:59] <faryshta> DJones, i am at this step  https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en#using but the tor browser doen't seem to run
[09:01] <DJones> faryshta: I'm afraid its not something I've ever used, so beyond knowing about the bots factoid, I'm afraid I can't help with it
[09:06] <geirha> elementary, gvo: No, aliases aren't very useful in /etc/profile. Instead, put   export GREP_OPTIONS='--color=auto'  in there
[09:07] <gvo> geirha: Didn't know that.  Thanks
[09:08] <elementary> geirha: Thank you.
[09:10] <geirha> elementary: Note that the change will take effect next time you log in
[09:11] <elementary> geirha: sure :)
[09:15] <Adari> i fubared!
[09:15] <Adari> Have a Win7 boot... and a Ubuntu partition
[09:16] <Adari> deleted my ubuntu partition to try out linux mint
[09:16] <fishsponge> hello! Is anyone using chrome v 31.0.1650.48 and having issues with the Facebook web site???!?
[09:16] <Adari> now it's not booting either.
[09:18] <fishsponge> basically, whenever I hover over anything on Facebook, including flash games, nothing shows up. If I click on something, I have then clicked on it... every other web site works fine, and facebook works fine in other browsers too... just Facebook is acting weird in Chrome v31 on Linux...
[09:18] <fishsponge> for example, if I hover over a hyperlink, the cursor does not change and the hyperlink does not get underlined... but if I click on it it works!
[09:22] <Adari> fish: what extensions do you have installed?
[09:22] <kali_eskrima> hi where and how do you create a file with a command lines? and than that it will be recognized and run in the terminal? where in ubuntu you do?
[09:24] <fritz_> hie people i installed ubuntu 13.10 on a partition that had linux mint, but when i try installing a program using terminal i get the following message, /usr/lib/linuxmint/mintSources/mintSources can anyone help
[09:24] <jenenliu> hi guys, how can I edit my grub configuration after install ubuntu
[09:24] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO hi, HOWS GOING? where and how do you create a file with a command lines? and than that it will be recognized and run in the terminal? where in ubuntu you do?
[09:24] <fritz_> sh: 1: /usr/lib/linuxmint/mintSources/mintSources.py: not found
[09:25] <gvo> jenenliu: vi /etc/default/grub
[09:25] <jenenliu> gvo: thanks
[09:25] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: hey. I'm not 100% following exactly what you're asking. do you want to know about writing scripts?
[09:25] <adac> how can I identify processes that use the hard disk extensively?
[09:26] <gvo> adac you could try iotop
[09:27] <vlt> adac: +1
[09:27] <wilee-nilee> fritz_, Can you show us what this makes. lsb_release -a
[09:27] <scomed> ciao
[09:27] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO ok i m talking about this.....  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6414980/
[09:27] <vlt> scomed: Ciao
[09:29] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO also when you told me the other day about how to set my network mng for me to be always able to connect. well i did something and it seems its working now. but i dont know how to crate files that will work as an executable files. as you mentioned couple of days ago. i saved the conversation so i can try make it work.
[09:30] <adac> gvo, hmm iotop doesn't seem to show a process that is behaving out of normal it seems. I really have no clue what my pc makes so slow sometimes. It is not the memory, it is not the swap, it is not the processor, so it has to be disk load
[09:30] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: now I'm more confused. That's a udev rule.
[09:31] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: if you want to create a file and execute that file _. sounds like a script to me. I can explain that real simple.
[09:31] <gvo> adac if iotop isn't showing actvity, I think your assumption has to be wrong.
[09:32] <adac> gvo, it shows activity but not permanet activity. I'm not sure can even non permanent activity bring the speed of the machine down?
[09:33] <ogzy> what is the default username and password at the horizan interface after mirantis installation?
[09:33] <gvo> adac I doubt it.  You might run sar and see if you can spot anything.
[09:33] <ogzy> ok it seems admin, admin
[09:34] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO haha sorry. i was trying to create a file that will always recognize my samsung phone when connected. i have a bunch of stuff that i need transfer. and then i remembered yhe other day u suggested to create a file for my netwrok manager.... so i just added that in.
[09:34] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO this is the website full from that pastebin http://askubuntu.com/questions/34297/galaxy-s-not-detected-how-do-i-make-it-work
[09:35] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO what is file _.  ??
[09:35] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: ahh i see. I get you now. In what way do you want the phone to be recognized?
[09:36] <faryshta> which is the best way to connect to tor? i am trying vidalia but so far all fails
[09:36] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: is it for data transfer?
[09:37] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO i want to see my folders and to see the data, transfer pictures and music... etc... yes
[09:38] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: ok. the first answer here should be right: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34297/galaxy-s-not-detected-how-do-i-make-it-work   This will switch the phone to usb transfer mode. Is this not working for you?
[09:38] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: you should ignore the second answer thats for a different issue altogether
[09:39] <TsukasaUjiie> Hey, Im on ubuntu 13.04 (cloud images) and my rc-sysinint.conf upstart job isnt running at all. what would cause that?
[09:39] <kali_eskrima> no i didnt tried because i dont have with me the usb cable
[09:40] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO no i didnt tried because i dont have the usb cable with me now
[09:41] <gvo> kali_eskrima: install airdroid?
[09:42] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: its just that you need to change the phone setting to be visible as a usb mass storage device. Later versions of android require you to install software to recognize mtp devices. But for the samsung galaxy S it just needs that to be recognized as usb storage.
[09:43] <you-tee-f> hi
[09:43] <adac> gvo when trying to start sar I do get: Cannot open /var/log/sysstat/sa14: No such file or directory Please check if data collecting is enabled in /etc/default/sysstat but the ENABLED in the config is set to true
[09:44] <you-tee-f> i'm using an irc online, does someone know where i can find a no-install irc for ubuntu ?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> you-tee-f, you mean a web based alternative?
[09:44] <gvo> adac dpkg-reconfigure sysstat
[09:45] <gvo> adac and start /etc/init.d/sysstat start (or restart)
[09:46] <gvo> you-tee-f: chatzilla comes to mind
[09:47] <ianmac1> you-tee-f, have you tried:  https://webchat.freenode.net/
[09:48] <adac> gvo, did the trick! thanks!
[09:48] <DJones> you-tee-f: How do you mean no-install? Ubuntu comes with app's like xchat/empathy pre-installed, as far as I know, outside of using them or installing another app like irssi etc, you would have to use a webchat in a browser
[09:49] <cfhowlett> you-tee-f, there are firefox add-ons and, I'm sure, chromium as well
[09:50] <DJones> ianmac1: Just looking at you-tee-f's timeout message, they are using webchat, so I guess thats not what they want
[09:50] <babinlonston> While Mounting a NFS share how can i Mount it Specifying as read and Write in fstab entry
[09:50] <DJones> cfhowlett: They timed out, you'll have to resend that when they rejoin
[09:50] <cfhowlett> DJones, noted.
[09:51] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: give it the rw option  ... it should do this by default tho
[09:51] <faryshta> hitsujiTMO, hi. do you know about tor?
[09:51] <hitsujiTMO> faryshta: no i don't use it at all i'm afraid
[09:51] <faryshta> HiddenDjinn, damn. thanks
[09:52] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: its not Mount with rw , my fstab entry is here pls have a note 192.168.1.160:/nfsshare /home/sysadmin/nfsshare nfs     rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr 0   0
[09:52] <ianmac1> DJones, Ah, ok
[09:52] <the_drow> Hi, I have a USB 3 to ethernet converter that doesn't work for me on 13.10 but works for another developer that is using the same OS and device.
[09:53] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: then i would assume that its configured on the server to be read only or you simply do not have write access to the folder that is bing mounted
[09:53] <makara> hi. I'm running 12.04 LTS Server. I read long time ago multiple users are a security risk. I've got 27. Any information about this?
[09:53] <the_drow> It's manufactured by STLabs
[09:53] <cfhowlett> !server|makara,
[09:54] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: this is my server config  ----->        /nfsshare       192.168.1.99(rw,subtree_check,sync,no_root_squash)
[09:54] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, See if running lsusb gives more details on it.
[09:54] <gordonjcp> makara: in the sense that the more users you have, the more passwords there are to guess
[09:54] <adac> gvo, sar -d should output the disk activity right?
[09:54] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: and what are the permissions on /nfsshare ?
[09:54] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6415066/
[09:54] <the_drow> Appearntly it's ASIX inside
[09:55] <gordonjcp> makara: it's not really a big deal, as long as everyone is using sensible passwords and you keep stuff up-to-date
[09:55] <makara> gordonjcp, seems unnecessary clutter for a server version
[09:55] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: its rw
[09:55] <the_drow> But the driver should be included in the 3.11 kernel mainline.
[09:55] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: It's working for a colleague of mine.
[09:55] <makara> gordonjcp, they're machine users, like 'games' 'irc' 'backup'
[09:56] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: can you show me the output of: mount
[09:56] <makara> gordonjcp, cat /etc/passwd
[09:56] <gvo> adac man sar
[09:56] <gordonjcp> makara: they have no shells
[09:56] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: sudo lshw -C network only shows the wireless device
[09:56] <makara> gordonjcp, they do. They have no home directories.
[09:57] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, Can you identify what on the lsusb might be it?
[09:57] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: Bus 004 Device 005: ID 0b95:1790 ASIX Electronics Corp.
[09:57] <adac> gvo, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7464284
[09:57] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6415085/
[09:57] <gvo> adac sar -A
[09:57] <hitsujiTMO> makara: they are system accounts not user accounts. anything below uid 1000 is a system account.
[09:58] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, I have no idea to be honest, usually there is more info to search the web with.
[09:58] <makara> hitsujiTMO, so what does that mean in terms of security?
[09:58] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: I had this one installed for 13.04...
[09:58] <hitsujiTMO> makara: nothing. those account cannot be logged into
[09:58] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: https://launchpad.net/~qji/+archive/ax88179
[09:58] <gvo> adac I'm not a sar expert.  I just know it's used a lot to determine the load on Linux systems.
[09:59] <adac> gvo, kk thanks!
[09:59] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: It worked.
[09:59] <gvo> adac but it doesn't look like your system is overloaded in any way.
[09:59] <makara> hitsujiTMO, irc:x:39:39:ircd:/var/run/ircd:/bin/sh
[09:59] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO oh i see... so i need to set it up with my phone the visible usb mass storage. ok i will try that later. also will it work with the bluetooth? when you connect? i will try it now
[09:59] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, what worked?
[10:00] <kali_eskrima> air what is airdroid for? thanks
[10:00] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: The driver on the PPA for 13.04.
[10:00] <cfhowlett> kali_eskrima, wifi connection between computer and droid phone.
[10:00] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, So it's working now?
[10:00] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: no because it should be included in the kernel already. I can'
[10:00] <the_drow> I can't install it using the PPA. I'm on 13.10 now.
[10:01] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: can you show me the the output of mount from the client machine with the nfs share mounted
[10:01] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO also how and were do i create a document or/and file ? and will that document/file be executable in the terminal?
[10:01] <kali_eskrima> cfhowlett oh ok thanks
[10:01] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: chmod +x  it to make it executable
[10:01] <faryshta> which is the best way to connect to tor? i am trying vidalia but so far all fails
[10:02] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: client machine http://paste.ubuntu.com/6415097/
[10:02] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO what is chmod +x? i name of the file?  or what?
[10:03] <cfhowlett> !tor
[10:03] <cfhowlett> !best|faryshta,
[10:03] <kali_eskrima> air is that airdroid almost like kies air?
[10:03] <makara> hitsujiTMO, sudo su - irc
[10:04] <hitsujiTMO> makara: sudo cat /etc/shadow | grep irc                 as you can see the first field is marked with a *   indicating that it is a system account and cannot me logged in with by a user. a user account would have a password hash here instead
[10:04] <makara> hitsujiTMO, I'm logged in
[10:04] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: So no idea? :/
[10:04] <uladzislau> hello people
[10:04] <uladzislau> i have a big problem and need your help
[10:04] <uladzislau> the problem is that i can't log-in to kde plasma dektop. When i log-in, i getting standard login splash screen (icons of Hdd, earch etc) and then i getting black screen for a half-a-second and then i getting back to login screen
[10:04] <uladzislau>   the problem also that virtual consoles  doesn't work
[10:04] <uladzislau>   i mean ctrl+alt+fXX doesn't show me a terminal
[10:04] <uladzislau>   but also show me login screen
[10:04] <uladzislau>   if i get to terminal i can solve my problems
[10:04] <FloodBot1> uladzislau: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:04] <uladzislau>   it seems something with X server
[10:05] <hitsujiTMO> makara: makara that not logging to that account. that's assuming it's identity. try sshing to the server with: ssh irc@serverip            you can't log in
[10:05] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, Ni I believe I said that already.
[10:06] <wilee-nilee> No*
[10:06] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: Thanks anyway :)
[10:06] <uladzislau> so KDE plasma desktop doesn't start (when i type password it starts to load  - standard splash screen with HDD etc. - and then it brings me back to login screen)
[10:06] <uladzislau> VCs doesn't work
[10:06] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: it is indeed being mounted as rw. can you tell me the output of: ls -ld /home/sysadmin/nfsshare
[10:06] <uladzislau> every ctrl+alt+fx brings me back to login screen
[10:07] <uladzislau> is there any ability to get to terminal ?
[10:07] <uladzislau> instead of loading from liveusb
[10:07] <hitsujiTMO> uladzislau: ctrl + alt + f1 -> then login to the terminal
[10:07] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: drwxr-xr-x 3 nobody nogroup 4096 Nov 14 14:20 /home/sysadmin/nfsshare
[10:08] <uladzislau> ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't show me a terminal
[10:08] <uladzislau> it shows me a login screen
[10:08] <uladzislau> every ctrl alt f1 f2 f3 ... doesn't show me a terminal
[10:08] <uladzislau> it shows me a kubuntu login screen
[10:08] <faryshta> cfhowlett_, thanks but that didn't helped
[10:08] <adac> gvo you might want to have a look also on this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7464397
[10:08] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO after i understand how to create files with command that u said before. and how to make it and where? than i would like to ask you how do i permanently remove  error messages on the start up with the 12.04 lte .. its says something about the broken pipes and it takes time to load. i think i messed it up when i was trying to upgrade to 12.10. so now its not loading ok. i dont know if that matters for the overall perf
[10:09] <uladzislau> my problem descripetion again : http://pastebin.com/m672ubDg
[10:09] <adac> gvo is %system the system load?
[10:09] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: try: echo "hello" | sudo tee /home/sysadmin/nfsshare/hello_file
[10:10] <l57_> #ubuntu-ru
[10:10] <cfhowlett_> !ru
[10:10] <babinlonston> sysadmin@system99:~$ echo "hello" | sudo tee /home/sysadmin/nfsshare/hello_file
[10:10] <babinlonston> hello
[10:10] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: i'd have to see the exact errors to know where the problem is. can you pastebin the output of: dmesg
[10:10] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: sysadmin@system99:~$ echo "hello" | sudo tee /home/sysadmin/nfsshare/hello_file
[10:10] <babinlonston> hello
[10:11] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO what is dmesg? do i add the to the command?
[10:11] <gvo> adac that's the amount of time spent in the OS
[10:11] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: dmesg is a command. it outputs a system log
[10:11] <gvo> adac or not executing user instructions.
[10:11] <adac> gvo, yeah just scrolling down the huge man file .)
[10:12] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: if you've ran that: there should be a file hello_file in /home/sysadmin/nfsshare
[10:12] <gvo> adac however most of the system time is a result of the user asking the system to do something for him, not necessarily overhead of the OS.
[10:13] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: yes there is a file .... then Why i cant create any file and remove any file in GUI ?
[10:14] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: because you do not have permissions to write. Is this a share in your home or is this in work?
[10:14] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: work
[10:15] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO here you go. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6415151/
[10:15] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO tell me if its missing something... i think it is
[10:15] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: and what kind of security do you need for this share? do you mid it being open or do you want it for you and you only?
[10:16] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: there are 24 Users here , They need to access it now  With read and Write
[10:17] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO i will paste again for you
[10:17] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO http://paste.ubuntu.com/6415164/
[10:18] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: ok. first can you: sudo rm /home/sysadmin/nfsshare/hello_file                          and then we'll reconfigure your server export
[10:19] <babinlonston> ok
[10:20] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: is everyone using ubuntu or other operating systems?
[10:20] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: Each and Every PC's are Installed With Ubuntu 12.04
[10:21] <ZBCss>  * name: snake
[10:21] <ZBCss>  * coder: gameloftyou
[10:21] <ZBCss>  * version: v1.00
[10:21] <ZBCss>  *[10:21] <FloodBot1> ZBCss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:21] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: and they're all in the 192.168.1.0 network>
[10:21] <hitsujiTMO> ??
[10:21] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: yes
[10:21]  * cfhowlett_ hates hit and run spammers
[10:21] <gvo> likewise
[10:21] <jery> hello chat en français svp ?
[10:22] <kali_eskrima> cfhowlett me too. but how do you know that was a smapper?
[10:22] <kali_eskrima> cfhowlett i mean spammer? how would he spam here?
[10:22] <k1l_> !fr | jery
[10:22] <cfhowlett_> !fr|jery,
[10:23] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: please change your export in /etc/export to: /nfsshare       192.168.1.0/24(rw,subtree_check,sync,all_squash)                                         and then restart the nfs-kernel-server service
[10:23] <gvo> kali_eskrima: Did ZBCss look like he was asking for ubuntu support?
[10:23] <cfhowlett_> kali_eskrima, I'm going to assume that ZBCss post was NOT about ubuntu as he dropeed his snake game payload and departed.
[10:23] <kali_eskrima> gvo no not really.. just blabbering haha
[10:24] <kali_eskrima> cfhowlett what is a snake game? how do you see that a playload? sorry im very new to all this. and i like to learn from you guys,
[10:25] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: hmm. whatever is causing the problem is not being dumped to dmesg. can you tell me any exact info about the errors?
[10:26] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO ok its not a big deal , but the loading time is longer than how i should be, and its a black screen with message... cant load bytes broken pipes? and than it will load to the ubuntu desktop. maybe is nothing major, but i dont know
[10:27] <kali_eskrima> cfhowlett yeah some people are just attention seekers and naggers
[10:28] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: Done
[10:28] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: it could just be that the system is waiting for network interface to come up
[10:28] <kali_eskrima> gvo so here there is not admin? that can someone be kicked out? or blocked?
[10:29] <gvo> kali_eskrima: yes, but he came in did his thing and left.  No time to kick.
[10:29] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: on the client can you remount the nfs share: sudo mount -a
[10:29] <k1l_> kali_eskrima: lets focus on ubuntu support in here. if you have a problem with users in here you are free to come to #ubuntu-ops and talk to the ops
[10:30] <gvo> kali_eskrima: Or complain on #freenode
[10:30] <kali_eskrima> hitsujitTMO Oooh ok so i dont think is a big deal. so if i may ask you again. plese explain me more how to create a file and to add that command to exectute. where to add, how and how do i do? thanks sorry if i ask too much i just dont know, much about linux  and ubuntu. just new to it
[10:30] <forgeaus> you guys have ubottu right? whats the command to get it to say foreign language channels?
[10:30] <forgeaus> I can only remember botsnack lol
[10:31] <olf-folks> would it hurt my server to remove Plymouth
[10:31] <kali_eskrima> k1l oh year there is the live admin  :D yeah no problem. im focused on my problem solving. i wont say a word. sorry
[10:31] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: you you have naything defined in /etc/network/interfaces                           ?
[10:31] <hitsujiTMO> anything*
[10:31] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: no
[10:32] <forgeaus> if plymouth is only cosmetic then I don't see it as being harmful to remove...
[10:32] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO is that a folder you are talking about? or a com,mand? i dont know what is defined.
[10:32] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: ya its mounted but the server have other files and im here seeing some other files and folders
[10:32] <olf-folks> ok if i dont come back assume the worst has happened
[10:32] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO I mean i know what it means but i dont know what are you talking about
[10:33] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: can you try and create a file in that folder now.
[10:33] <forgeaus> !botsnack
[10:34] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: no i cant create
[10:34] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: thats a config file. can you: cat /etc/network/interfaces                               and paste the output
[10:34] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO oh ok, one sec
[10:35] <olf-folks> it wont let me remove Plymouth for some reason.
[10:35] <IamTrying> Who is maintaining bd.ubuntu.xxxxx ? all the packages to install with apt-get is failing , so bad quality, does anyone checks there quality?
[10:35] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: forry. i forgot one important thing. on the server can you: chmod 777 /nfsshare
[10:35] <IamTrying> I am remotely on a bd.ubuntu pc and i cant install any packages with apt-get all gives forbidden
[10:35] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: sorry*
[10:36] <babinlonston> ok
[10:36] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6415219/
[10:36] <olf-folks> http://paste.debian.net/65786/
[10:36] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: then remount on the client again (sudo mount -a) and try to crate a file in the share
[10:37] <IamTrying> package repository of bd.ubuntu is third class, can anyone please advise what should be done?
[10:37] <cfhowlett_> IamTrying, yes.  don't use that mirror.
[10:38] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: hmm. its not waiting for a network interface to come up then. must be something else broken, but cannot tell without knowing any specific errors
[10:38] <IamTrying> cfhowlett_, its so Third class repository - shame on them, very bad management , like Ubuntu is not working that kind of impressions they are getting
[10:38] <k1l_> IamTrying: change to the main servers
[10:38] <IamTrying> cfhowlett_, who is maintain this repository its very bad quality.
[10:38] <IamTrying> OK
[10:39] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO ooh i see. ok nevermind the errors for now. i guess the ubuntu is working noneless with errors poping up. they are very fast on the start up screen.
[10:39] <ianmac1> Will the Mate desktop env eventually make it into the repos?
[10:39] <cfhowlett_> IamTrying, all of what you say may be true.  That's probably why the default settings on ubuntu are to main mirrors.  Of course that's easily changed to suit the user's needs.
[10:40] <k1l_> ianmac1: if its comming to debian
[10:40] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: its Done
[10:40] <cfhowlett_> !mate|ianmac1,
[10:40] <ianmac1> !mate
[10:40] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: thanks man
[10:40] <ianmac1> no factoid I guess
[10:40] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO so anyway can you help me with the folders creating of a file or executable file.. or where can i find more info on that... i want to create files to be executable. as you said for the network manager. i forgot exactly your words but i remember sometbing about the creating some file under certain name.. and then do the run in the terminal. i dont know what to create and where to create those files...
[10:40] <hitsujiTMO> IamTrying: that mirror is controlled by dhakaCom Limited     https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[10:41] <IamTrying> OK -  Thank you i will ask them to replace it to my servers i run several servers
[10:42] <cfhowlett_> !mirror|IamTrying, Not that I've ever done it, but if you're running servers, perhaps you might wish to set up your OWN mirror.
[10:42] <hitsujiTMO> IamTrying: apologies: it's ispros.com.bd
[10:43] <forgeaus> !wayland
[10:43] <theadmin> forgeaus: No plans for that :P
[10:43] <forgeaus> lol
[10:43] <hitsujiTMO> IamTrying: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror.dhakacom.com-archive may be an alternative for you
[10:43] <cfhowlett_> hitsujiTMO, where are you finding the info.  I searched for "bd" and got nothing.
[10:43] <forgeaus> I think Kubuntu is going there, from what I read ...
[10:43] <ArcticLight> Hello, I have a question about Launchpad bugs... Is it possible to A) mark a bug as a possible regression and/or B) note which versions of Ubuntu contain the bug?
[10:43] <theadmin> ArcticLight: Try #launchpad
[10:43] <theadmin> forgeaus: Ah, maybe. But not the mainstream Ubuntu, it's gonna be using Mir.
[10:44] <forgeaus> whats Mir?
[10:44] <theadmin> forgeaus: A display server developed by Canonical for Ubuntu
[10:44] <hitsujiTMO> cfhowlett_: ping bd.archive.ubuntu.com  it resolves to: mirrors.ispros.com.bd
[10:44] <adeebnqo> Hello, I have a memory card thats protected with a password. How can I reset the password using ubuntu?
[10:44] <cfhowlett_> hitsujiTMO, thanks!
[10:44] <forgeaus> well its possible the Kubuntu thing I was reading was old? I'm not sure if they're going Mir though ...
[10:44] <cfhowlett_> !password|adeebnqo,
[10:45] <olf-folks> it wont let me remove Plymouth for some reason.
[10:45] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | babinlonston
[10:45] <olf-folks> http://paste.debian.net/65786/
[10:45] <theadmin> forgeaus: From what I know, Kubuntu team doesn't plan to support Mir and for now will stay on X.org.
[10:45] <forgeaus> they seem to have split from canonical
[10:45] <adeebnqo> cfhowlett_ : The issue is not the password for my OS but rather of the memory card
[10:45] <cfhowlett_> !kubuntu|forgeaus,
[10:45] <k1l_> forgeaus: since KDE is refusing to support MIR kubuntu will evaluate to use Wayland after KDE drops X support. but that is some time away and better asked in #kubuntu
[10:45] <theadmin> forgeaus: They never were *in* Canonical. All the derivatives (Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Studio) are mantained by the brilliant community :)
[10:46] <cfhowlett_> adeebnqo, ah, sorry.  missed that part
[10:46] <kali_eskrima> ubottu <3 you always know
[10:46] <forgeaus> oh I wasn't trying to ask the question lol I was just making a comment
[10:47] <forgeaus> I wonder what happened to fluxbuntu ...
[10:47] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: create a file in you're home directory. call it hello_world. in the hello_world file add the line: echo "hello world"                   save it and then make the file executable: chmod +x hello_world        then run the file with: ./hello_world
[10:47] <IamTrying> OK - Thank you
[10:47] <forgeaus> and why there never really was a stepbuntu?
[10:47] <d> -W
[10:47] <olf-folks> i think im muted?
[10:48] <theadmin> forgeaus: Eh. Lubuntu uses LXDE which is Openbox + a panel
[10:48] <theadmin> forgeaus: Close enough :D
[10:48] <cfhowlett_> olf-folks, nope
[10:48] <olf-folks> ahh okay
[10:48] <forgeaus> yeah I knew Lubuntu was LXDE but I don't know much about LXDE
[10:48] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO Ok ...let me try this contraption. so the adding the line goes inside the file . hm and the make it executable is with the right click or in the settings bar?
[10:49] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: it's much easier to di it all in the terminal
[10:49] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO do i create a new folder or new document?
[10:50] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: its a new document
[10:50] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO oh just in the terminal.. so i just follow the steps.
[10:50] <kali_eskrima> ok
[10:50] <Zap-W> Hi, Have a question in bash manual the syntax for parameter expansion is  ${parameter/pattern/string}   with 2 slashes /  , but in Greg's bash faq there is an example with  3 slashes   "${file//foo/bar}"   I am confused why are there double // after file instead of only 1
[10:50] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: nano is the default text editor in the terminal.
[10:51] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO do i have to specfiy in the terminal that this is a new document and how it will know where to save it? i mean will it save to my home directory?
[10:51] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO so i should say to terminal.... sudo nano tex editor? to start typing in the terminal... ? oh im sorry im really lost in space
[10:51] <theadmin> Zap-W: Try #bash
[10:52] <hitsujiTMO> kali_eskrima: in your home: just type: nano hello_world              that will open the file hello_world for editing. if it doesn't exist then it will load an empty file that will be saved as hello_world when you save with (ctrl + o)
[10:52] <theadmin> kali_eskrima: sudo = run command as administrator. nano is *one* of the huge variety of console-based text editors, the easiest one. To summon it, you can type "nano filename" where "filename" is the file you want to edit. "sudo nano filename" = the same, but as an administrator.
[10:53] <kali_eskrima> great it sounds like a game.. like skyrim!
[10:54] <theadmin> kali_eskrima: Heh.
[10:55] <olf-folks> i have always thought vim was more easy to use than nano
[10:55] <kali_eskrima> theadmin i wish i can get classes on the ubuntu/linux or sometning like that so i wouldnt bother you guys all the time with the most smallest and stupidiest questions.
[10:55] <theadmin> kali_eskrima: Eh, that's okay. You can bother us all you want ;) Or even me, you can pm me, I'm more than willing to teach.
[10:55] <cfhowlett_> kali_eskrima, not stupid questions and see IBM for linux learning resources.
[10:56] <k1l_> olf-folks: if you are used to the keybindings and the way vi and vim works. for regular desktop user nano is more like a editor they know from the GUI
[10:56] <theadmin> Vim is great but it takes hours to properly understand it
[10:56] <cfhowlett_> kali_eskrima, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lpic1-v3-map/     or hit your library for the LPCI 1 book
[10:57] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO oH I see now.. it works in the terminal. like it opens the word nano text thingy great. ok let me try what you said earlier to create that file
[10:57] <kali_eskrima> theadmin thank you very much will do! :)
[10:57] <olf-folks> all you really need to know about vim is :qw!
[10:57] <kali_eskrima> cfhowlett thanks!
[10:58] <cfhowlett_> kali_eskrima, also look for the free download "the ubuntu pocketguide"
[10:58] <theadmin> olf-folks: :wqa!, rather.
[10:59] <theadmin> olf-folks: "qw" is also not a command, quitting first and then writing makes no sense.
[10:59] <olf-folks> theadmin,  i was testing you lol
[10:59] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: i tihnk you mean: q!
[11:00] <theadmin> "vi has two modes: beeping and breaking things"
[11:00] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[11:00] <olf-folks> hey hitsujiTMO did you look at my pastebin?
[11:02] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:03] <olf-folks> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[11:03] <forgeaus> vi has far too many commands to remember, I tend to stay away from using it
[11:03] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:04] <forgeaus> plus two different modes from editing and writing, ugh, it does my head in
[11:04] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, i did that before i tried to remove it
[11:04] <kali_eskrima> hitsujiTMO ok i think i got it thanks i just need to play around and try it
[11:04] <gvo> forgeaus: It's not for people who don't use it fairly reguarly.
[11:04] <forgeaus> gvo exactly
[11:04] <forgeaus> I'm not saying it isn't powerful
[11:04] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: jusat try it agian now. can you pastebin the output
[11:04] <forgeaus> its just not my kind of text editor thats all
[11:05] <gvo> forgeaus: For those of us who need power and speed ...
[11:05] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: did you already remove some other packages?
[11:05] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, you want the whole output
[11:05] <forgeaus> gvo, then I say perhaps work smarter instead of harder? .. if you have the option :)
[11:05] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: please
[11:05] <Pumpkin-_> any text editor that a first time user can't work out how to quit isn't user friendly.
[11:06] <theadmin> Pumpkin-_: When you run vim, it tells you how to quit right away :D
[11:06] <forgeaus> pumpkin well that isn' quite fair but under normal circumstances I'd agree
[11:06] <gvo> Pumpkin-_: Driving a semi isn't user friendly either however it is a necessary skill for some people.
[11:06] <olf-folks> http://paste.debian.net/65792/
[11:06] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: upgrade not update :P
[11:07] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, oh my bad ha
[11:07] <Pumpkin-_> theadmin: not if you open a file with it like "vi somefile". Then you are screwed.
[11:07] <theadmin> Pumpkin-_: True. Especially if you do use "vi", it's weird. Vim is way better.
[11:08] <olf-folks> http://paste.debian.net/65793/
[11:08] <gvo> gvim
[11:08] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: can you also pastebin: dpkg --get-selections
[11:08] <forgeaus> well the m part does stand for improved
[11:08] <gvo>  best of both worlds
[11:08] <forgeaus> gvim is even better :) more improved
[11:08] <forgeaus> but still not so user friendly
[11:08] <theadmin> forgeaus: Actually, it used to stand for "Vi iMmitation". But then it became better so, yeah.
[11:08] <gvo> :help is always available
[11:09] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, hold on that may take a moment
[11:09] <forgeaus> theadmin interesting factoid, one which I'll probably not remember easily
[11:09] <hitsujiTMO> emacs ftw!
[11:09] <Pumpkin-_> typing that : isn't going to be something 99% of first time users think of
[11:09] <forgeaus> I never understood how to use emacs either. ..
[11:09] <theadmin> forgeaus: You just hold down Ctrl or Alt and mash random keys just like you do in Vim :D
[11:10] <forgeaus> I think I'll just use kdevelop or something instead lol
[11:10] <hitsujiTMO> forgeaus: nah. use sublime text
[11:10] <gvo> forgeaus: Use notepad++
[11:10] <olf-folks> http://paste.debian.net/65795/
[11:10] <forgeaus> Pico is better for that... pico shows you what the commands are
[11:10] <forgeaus> although I guess I should say nano
[11:10] <Zap-W> from where what config file does kde take font name with alias ubuntu
[11:11] <Zap-W> I want to change the default font for ubuntu alias
[11:11] <Zap-W> oh it's an actual TTF font
[11:11] <k1l_> forgeaus: do you have a suppor tissue? we have #ubuntu-offtopic for discussions and chatter to keep this channel clear for support
[11:11] <forgeaus> wasn't that originally part of the pine mail suite or something?
[11:11] <k1l_> that inclused the $best-editor discussion :)
[11:12] <k1l_> includes
[11:12] <theadmin> Well, Ubuntu comes with nano for a reason I suppose.
[11:13] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: try remove plymouth again: sudo apt-get remove plymouth
[11:14] <forgeaus> Actually I did have a support question, for #kubuntu someone was speaking a foreign langauge, what command for ubottu tells them its english?
[11:14] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: are you removing stuff at random from your system? i see some odd things removed like: gnome-session
[11:14] <forgeaus> (its a bit late now... )
[11:14] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, yeah i installed something that also installed gnome-session
[11:15] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, then it would not let me use openbox so i removed it
[11:15] <forgeaus> what language is this anyway? как зайти на кубунту-ру?
[11:16] <olf-folks> http://paste.debian.net/65798/
[11:16] <iptable> Russian
[11:16] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: next time try: apt-get install blahblahblah --no-install-recommends     for anything that you don't want something installed for
[11:16] <DJones> !ru| iptable
[11:16] <forgeaus> ok so send them to ubuntu-ru?
[11:16] <DJones> iptable: Sorry, misread that
[11:16] <forgeaus> thx :)
[11:17] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, thanks for the advice
[11:17] <iptable> DJones: no worries
[11:19] <Esor> I'm updating ubuntu
[11:19] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: my apologies. plymouth needs to be installed. it's the plymouth themes that don't need to be installed
[11:19] <Esor> i hope nothing will break
[11:19] <Esor> is it safe?
[11:19] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, ok is there a way to atleast change it?
[11:20] <olf-folks> i probably could have Googled that...
[11:20] <theadmin> Esor: Uh, normally yes, unless something bad happens.
[11:21] <shomon> hi there, I'm trying to find out why my wifi network is slow. One router plugged in somewhere is making a mess.. Is there a way to get started analysing that from ubuntu?
[11:21] <Esor> I always reinstall ubuntu
[11:21] <Esor> but this time I'm trying to upgrade
[11:21] <shomon> I'm plugged in to the router
[11:21] <Esor> I hope my steam will be fine
[11:21] <k1l_> Esor: no one will guarantee that. but in most cases upgrades work. but backups will help
[11:21] <Esor> do you play any games on steam?
[11:22] <iptable> shomon: try mtr to google.com or similar. see if there is packet loss somewhere along the way
[11:22] <shomon> what is mtr iptable ?
[11:22] <shomon> aah
[11:22] <iptable> mtr is like traceroute, only better and more interactive
[11:22] <shomon> :) sorry.. just typed it
[11:23] <shomon> :) yeah we used to have tracert back in the day
[11:23] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, me being someone who came from debian i have to ask why would Plymouth be required haha
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> olf-folks: its not required, its optional
[11:25] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: that i'm unsure of. there's a few very odd and unnecessary dependencies in ubuntu.
[11:25] <k1l_> olf-folks: set nosplash and quite as kernel parameters for booting if you dont like plymuth
[11:25] <forgeaus> what is plymouth, I know when it runs (during bootup between grub and gdm or in my case kdm ...
[11:25] <hitsujiTMO> ActionParsnip: if you follow the dependency trail its needed for upstart
[11:26] <olf-folks> can i have a cool verbose boot? :D
[11:26] <Esor> why there's so big deal with ubuntufix website?
[11:26] <hitsujiTMO> ActionParsnip: its a dependency of mountall to be more specific
[11:26] <cfhowlett_> !ot|Esor,
[11:26] <Esor> sorry Ububegin
[11:26] <Esor> ubottu,
[11:27] <forgeaus> if only they could undepend it :)
[11:27] <shomon> hi iptables
[11:28] <shomon> sorry but there is no problem getting out. the problem is internal
[11:28] <shomon> some router is plugged into another
[11:28] <shomon> or interfering where it shouldnt
[11:29] <iptable> shomon: mtr to internal shows no delays? if so, this is not a layer 3 issue. You need to look at layer 1 - WiFi configuration itself. It would not be a router issue if on the same route it works on a cable and if mtr shows no issues.
[11:29] <shomon> yeah that's it.. how do I analyse the router traffic?
[11:31] <olf-folks> k1l_, kernel parameters? dose that have to do with grub? how would i change that?
[11:32] <shomon> aah okay so I guess I have to try from a computer connected to a router further down the chain... basically it's 3 routers connected together. but sometimes one gets some data crosswired
[11:32] <Dannermax> Hey all: Cant figure this one out. I have an existing raid5 software array with 4 harddrives, which was created in on a debian server. I want to mount them in my new ubuntu server setup, but i cant figure out what the command is. Can anyone help me out?
[11:34] <k1l_> olf-folks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth#Toggling_to_Traditional_Text-based_Boot
[11:34] <Dannermax> fdisk -l
[11:34] <shomon> is there a good channel to ask networking or router questions?
[11:35] <bazhang> ##networking
[11:35] <gvo> maybe #networking
[11:35] <k1l_> shomon: ##networking
[11:35] <shomon> thanks!
[11:35] <pacy_> Hey there i got a really strange Problem. I recently installed xubuntu on my laptop and it works pretty fine except one thing: First it just occoured when the screensaver was activated and i got back to the laptop there were horizontal diplaycontortions. So i disabled it. But sometimes i need to close my laptop an when i reopen it the same issue eventuates. according to /var/log/Xorg.o.log iam using the
[11:35] <pacy_> radeon module and the graphiccard iam using is tha ati radeon X1250. Anybody got an idea ?
[11:35] <Dannermax> Would it be better to ask my raid5 question in another channel?
[11:37] <CatKiller> Dannermax: What did you mean by "mount them"? You want to mount your RAID?
[11:37] <CatKiller> Is it assembled? Can you see a "md" device in "cat /proc/partitions"?
[11:39] <Dannermax> CatKiller: Yes i want to be able to access my RAID5 from my windows computer, and share folders from it with SAMBA shares
[11:39] <CatKiller> Dannermax: Is your RAID mounted?
[11:39] <Razkin> How can I make Ubuntu 13.04 look exactly like Mac OS X Lion? I don't like Ubuntu's current theme.
[11:40] <ikonia> Razkin: you don't, it's a differet desktop,
[11:40] <Dannermax> CatKiller: No, i dont see any nd devices. Only sda, sdb, sdc and so on...
[11:40] <CatKiller> Dannermax: How do you know you have a RAID5 then?
[11:40] <Razkin> ikonia: are there any themes?
[11:40] <ikonia> Razkin: not really no
[11:40] <Razkin> ikonia: I'd also like to disable Unity, I want the usual GNOME desktop.
[11:40] <ikonia> Razkin: you can install gnome shell
[11:40] <Razkin> ikonia: Do I have to make a switch to Ubuntu 9 to get the GNOME?
[11:41] <cfhowlett_> Razkin, there is the gnome-ubuntu version
[11:41] <ikonia> Razkin: as ubuntu 9 is EOL and using gnome 2 - that would be unwise, but your choice
[11:41] <cfhowlett_> !gnome
[11:41] <Dannermax> CatKiller: TO be honest, i dont know if its mounted. But. I have had the RAID5 working in Openmediavault (debian) and it was mounted and had xfs filesystem. i was told that it would work just fine in another OS.. eg. ubuntu
[11:41] <ikonia> the gnome-ubuntu version is just gnome shell and not an official release,
[11:41] <cfhowlett_> ikonia, confuzed I am ... it's an "official" shell?
[11:42] <CatKiller> Dannermax: Ok, then "sudo apt-get install mdadm"
[11:42] <ikonia> cfhowlett_: sorry, I meant not an official ubuntu release/distribution
[11:42] <Dannermax> CatKiller: I have mdadm installed :)
[11:42] <k1l_> i thought the gnomebuntu was official spinoff now
[11:42] <CatKiller> then "mdadm --assemble /dev/md_d0 /dev/sd[a-e]
[11:42] <CatKiller> Provided the RAID has been created on sda, b, c, d, e
[11:42] <CatKiller> sudo that command too
[11:42] <ikonia> k1l_: no, it's a shambles
[11:42] <cfhowlett_> Dannermax, I think you're right.  ubuntugnome.org says "official flavor of ubuntu"
[11:43] <a1l3erto> hello
[11:43] <a1l3erto> is there any way to install a package from trusty into saucy? and to automatically update dependencies
[11:43] <cfhowlett_> a1l3erto, greetings
[11:43] <Dannermax> CatKiller: ok, but before i do that, can i show you the output of cat /proc/partitions  ?
[11:43] <ikonia> cfhowlett_: yeah, that's why it's on ubuntugnome.org with people asking for help because they don't have a team
[11:43] <ikonia> there isnothing official about it
[11:43] <CatKiller> Dannermax: Sure just use bpaste or something
[11:43] <k1l_> ikonia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME says: Ubuntu GNOME is an official flavour of Ubuntu, featuring the GNOME desktop environment.
[11:43] <Dannermax> CatKiller: Im not absolutely sure, what sd? my 4 3tb disks are
[11:43] <Dannermax> CatKiller: ok, 1 sec
[11:44] <cfhowlett_> ikonia, yes, they even mention the lack of manpower on their site.
[11:44] <hitsujiTMO> ikonia: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/saucy/release/ not official?
[11:44] <Dannermax> cfhowlett_ huh?
[11:44] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:45] <cfhowlett_> hitsujiTMO, that is the official cdimage
[11:45] <Dannermax> CatKilelr: http://pastebin.com/RjzKDQkc
[11:45] <yohanes> hello
[11:45] <cfhowlett_> yohanes, greetings
[11:45] <Dannermax> CatKiller: http://pastebin.com/RjzKDQkc
[11:46] <CatKiller> Dannermax: seems to me the 4 drives witrh the same large size are the ones you want
[11:46] <yohanes> thank you
[11:46] <excognac> hi ikonia. I'm on xubuntu 12.04 live dvd now. funny thing happened: After I started live session i had complete mess GUI. Then Ctrl+ALt+F1 for text mode. Then I just typed status lighdm, it said running. then then Alt+F7 for GUI. Magic> now it looks all fine
[11:46] <CatKiller> so sda, sdb, sdc, sdd
[11:46] <Dannermax> CatKiller: ok..perfect!
[11:46] <CatKiller> sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sd[a-b] /dev/sd[c-d]
[11:47] <CatKiller> if that doesn't work try /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc etc
[11:47] <CatKiller> as opposed to /dev/sd[a-b]
[11:47] <Dannermax> CatKilelr: SO this should mount the Raid5 1 mountpoint?
[11:47] <Dannermax> CatKiller: ahh.. don't understand the command, so just want to be absolutely sure.. :)
[11:48] <CatKiller> Won't break anything if you use --assemble
[11:48] <Dannermax> CatKiller: ermm.. i mean, so this should mount it as a single mountpoint?
[11:48] <CatKiller> Won't mount it
[11:48] <CatKiller> it will assemble it
[11:48] <CatKiller> then you have to mount it
[11:48] <Dannermax> ahh
[11:48] <Dannermax> sec
[11:48] <CatKiller> it will "create" it
[11:48] <CatKiller> you will then have a /dev/md0 device
[11:48] <CatKiller> which is your RAID
[11:48] <FloodBot1> CatKiller: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <philinux> ActionParsnip: whats happened to floodbot is it on strike?
[11:48] <Dannermax> oh my
[11:49] <Dannermax> mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 4 drives.
[11:49] <CatKiller> there you go
[11:50] <Dannermax> ok. then i need to mount it right?
[11:51] <Dannermax> CatKiller: Forgive me. You said that already. But what is the command
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> philinux: no idea matey, sorry
[11:52] <CatKiller> Command for what?
[11:52] <CatKiller> to mouny?
[11:52] <philinux> ActionParsnip: seems to have gone bye bye
[11:52] <CatKiller> to mount?
[11:52] <a1l3erto> is there any way to install a package from trusty into saucy? and to automatically update dependencies
[11:52] <Dannermax> CatKiller: Im a bit apprehensive, about using Webmin.. but i really like working in a UI
[11:53] <gvo> CatKiller: I think he means the mount command.
[11:53] <CatKiller> !mount | Dannermax
[11:53] <cfhowlett_> Dannermax, I believe webmin hit the "not recommended list" some time ago.  ask in #ubuntu-server
[11:53] <cfhowlett_> !webmin
[11:53] <excognac> ikonia, want me to play around a bit with this distro/environment? Or you busy right now
[11:54] <gvo> webmin might not be supported by debian et al, but it still works and is supported on debian by the author.
[11:54] <Dannermax> CatKiller: My goal, is to be able to share the harddrives through samba share
[11:54] <Dannermax> CatKiller: Sorry for not being specific enough.. im really new to all this
[11:55] <CatKiller> Dannermax: I was just helping for the RAID, now that your RAID is up, the rest will take some time
[11:55] <Dannermax> CatKiller: ok. Thanks for your help!!
[11:55] <k1l_> gvo: webmin was thrown out from debian and ubuntu due to the way webmin handles configfiles etc. no recommendation
[11:55] <CatKiller> But I found this on google: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[11:55] <gvo> k1l_: I know but it works.
[11:56] <secundaria> q tal
[11:56] <secundaria> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:56] <k1l_> gvo: i dont support that :/
[11:56] <Dannermax> gvo: Is there another system similar to webmin, bt is supported by ubuntu?
[11:57] <secundaria> hablen ustedes
[11:57] <Dannermax> CatKiller: THanks.. ill check it out
[11:57] <gvo> k1l_: I have two remote Ubuntu sites using virtualmin/webmin to provide multiple virtual hosts
[11:57] <k1l_> !spanish | secundaria
[11:57] <cfhowlett_> !es|secundaria,
[11:57] <cfhowlett_> dangit kil!  you were just too quick for me
[11:57] <k1l_> gvo: programs dont get kicked out for no reason
[11:57] <gvo> cfhowlett_: Speed up thosf fingers.
[11:58] <k1l_> cfhowlett_: bit we were too slow for him :X
[11:59] <gvo> k1l_: I know that.  Because someone decided to not support a program doesn't mean it's not useful.
[11:59] <k1l_> gvo: you say it works for you. that is ok. but we in here support what is officially supported from ubuntu. and webmin is not
[12:00] <gvo> k1l_: Fine, I don't need ubuntu support.  I'm here to help.
[12:00] <cfhowlett_> gvo, not recommended but, it's your machine.  don't came back here asking for a fix to the predicted disaster.  good luck with that.
[12:02] <ikonia> k1l_: sorry was just on the phone, I suspect that wiki page is created by the project founder with hope, as the packages are being shipped in a PPA - it seems very unlikley that an official ubuntu release would ship it's packges in an Ubuntu PPA
[12:03] <k1l_> ikonia: afaik its official spinoff. the isos are on the cdimage.ubuntu.com server since 13.03
[12:05] <k1l_> ikonia: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2013-March/000035.html
[12:08] <Alan502> Hey, i left ubuntu 13.04 upgrading all night and it hasn't finished yet. The distribution upgrade window seems to be frozen (grey-ish look) and it has been like this for at least half an hour. Is this normal?
[12:09] <cfhowlett_> Alan502, all NIGHT?  Not normal.
[12:09] <Alan502> cfhowlett_: yes, what should I do?
[12:10] <Alan502> cfhowlett_: is there anyway I can reverse it or should I just perform a ubntu re-sintall?
[12:10] <cfhowlett_> Alan502, get the torrents. download.  md5sum.  make a usb and clean install.
[12:10] <OerHeks> Alan502, try some alt + tab, maybe there is a hidden dialog window waiting
[12:11] <Alan502> wtf
[12:11] <Alan502> wait
[12:11] <cfhowlett_> OerHeks, I didn't even think of that, you're right.
[12:11] <Alan502> now
[12:11] <Alan502> x appears to be not working
[12:11] <Alan502> and the only thing i can see
[12:11] <Alan502> is firefox
[12:11] <FloodBot1> Alan502: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:11] <Alan502> i mean
[12:11] <Alan502> chrome
[12:11] <Touhou11> Doesn't Ubuntu implement dialogs like GNOME (and OS X) where they're attached to the relevant window?
[12:11] <cfhowlett_> d'oh!
[12:16] <philinux> How do you set lightning calendar as default?
[12:16] <hitsujiTMO> Touhou11: that's dependent on what type of dialog it is. (modal vs modeless)
[12:17] <pulsar78> regarding lirc: how come some remotes react to my ir-device and others wont ?
[12:20] <Squarepy> pulsar78, depends on modulation frequency and demodulated codes
[12:21] <Squarepy> I mean carrier frequency
[12:21] <Teleport> using UNetbootin for installing KXstudio 10.4.3 Via Removable USB, Boot says "Invalid or corrupt kernel image", Burned the ISO file to a blank DVD, boot says "No Default or UI configuration directive found!", I've already tried to rename "isolinux" to "syslinux"
[12:21] <cynicist> philinux: you can't set it directly since it's not a standalone app, but rather a thunderbird addon. If you want to set thunderbird as your default calendar client see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/76921/how-do-i-set-lightning-as-the-default-calendar-app
[12:22] <cfhowlett_> Teleport, you'll find it easier to install vanilla kubuntu and then add the kxstudio packages
[12:22] <Teleport> cfhowlett_ so first Kubuntu then migrate?
[12:22] <philinux> cynicist: thanks for that.
[12:23] <cfhowlett_> Teleport, that'd be my recommendation.  full details should be on the kxstudio site
[12:23] <cynicist> philinux: if you are using google's service for your calendar you can also get integration with the gnome panel date applet by configuring both thunderbird and evolution, since google cal will just sync events between them
[12:24] <Teleport> cfhowlett_ but my time is very short and I have 1mbps internet
[12:26] <bibi346> If I change the motherboard of my computer, would I have to reinstall ubuntu?
[12:26] <Teleport> bibi346: No
[12:27] <cynicist> bibi346: no, because all of your drivers are in the kernel
[12:27] <Teleport> cynicist question
[12:27] <cynicist> bibi346: unlike windows where you are supposed to install them all
[12:27] <Teleport> cynicist: using UNetbootin for installing KXstudio 10.4.3 Via Removable USB, Boot says "Invalid or corrupt kernel image", Burned the ISO file to a blank DVD, boot says "No Default or UI configuration directive found!", I've already tried to rename "isolinux" to "syslinux"
[12:27] <Touhou11> cynicist: Not entirely true, recent versions of Windows come with a lot of drivers for common hardware
[12:28] <cynicist> Touhou11: and technically some linux drivers are in userspace, just speaking generally
[12:29] <Teleport> cynicist: any solution?
[12:29] <cynicist> Teleport: yeah I wouldn't use unetbootin
[12:29] <Teleport> cynicist: dd?
[12:29] <Teleport> or what?
[12:29] <cynicist> Teleport: yep, always dd
[12:30] <cynicist> Teleport: first use 'df -h' in order to find your usb drive if you don't know it already, then 'sudo dd if=inputfile.iso of=/path/to/usbdrive'
[12:31] <cfhowlett_> Teleport, do you have ubuntu installed?
[12:31] <Teleport> cfhowlett_ on my pc yes
[12:31] <hitsujiTMO> Teleport: You'd have to ask kxstudio why thier iso isn't working as expected
[12:31] <Teleport> but not my laptop
[12:31] <cfhowlett_> Teleport, add the kxstudio ppa's to that.  run update & dist-upgrade.  done.
[12:31] <Teleport> hitsujiTMO becuase the ydont answer
[12:31] <bibi346> cynicist: ok, so theorically, I can easily switch to another computer box with another motherboard, I just have to move all pieces (hard disk, graphical card, ...) right?
[12:31] <cynicist> Teleport: if it's not unetbootin your download may just be corrupted, I would use torrents in general for the automatic file integrity checking
[12:31] <cfhowlett_> Teleport, and THAT is why you should ubuntustudio.
[12:32] <Teleport> cfhowlett_ kubuntu > kxstudio is slow method
[12:32] <makara> hi. I'm following this article how to use a VPN. I've setup the VPN, but there's no information on connecting to it using Ubuntu's GUI setting. http://askubuntu.com/questions/119534/easiest-way-to-setup-ubuntu-as-a-vpn-server
[12:32] <Teleport> cfhowlett_ I need ardour 3
[12:32] <cfhowlett_> Teleport, ardour3 is in 13.10 IIRC
[12:32] <cynicist> bibi346: yeah I've done it many times, the only issue I've ever had is when hardware is too new and lacks proper support
[12:32] <Teleport> cfhowlett_ and cadence +rakrrack
[12:33] <hitsujiTMO> !info ardour3
[12:33] <makara> for the gateway I've simply put the raw IPv4 address of my server. It's not connecting
[12:33] <bibi346> cynicist: ok thx
[12:33] <cynicist> bibi346: won't be a problem for a motherboard chipset though, those are well supported
[12:33] <Teleport> cynicist: I've downloaded with Internet download manager
[12:33] <cynicist> bibi346: yw
[12:33] <cynicist> Teleport: the iso could be corrupted, if they list the hash for it you can use md5sum on the iso to check if it matches
[12:34] <cfhowlett_> Teleport, ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop = kubuntu.  kubuntu+kxstudio ppa's = kxstudio.   BUT as you already know kxstudio wont' support you ... why?  your machines, your choice.  ardour 3 will be default in ubuntustudio 14.04 and ardour 2 works
[12:34] <cynicist> Teleport: or it could be unetbootin failing, that's why I suggest using dd
[12:34] <Teleport> cynicist I'll try to take ubuntu studio
[12:34] <pulsar78> anyone good with lirc ?
[12:35] <Teleport> cfhowlett_ but which version did you say again?
[12:35] <hitsujiTMO> Teleport: why not just use an OS that actually has support like kubuntu and then install kxstudio on it?
[12:35] <makara> pulsar78, try #freenode
[12:35] <Teleport> hitsujiTMO: this is what I have on my pc
[12:35] <Teleport> but not my laptop
[12:35] <Teleport> heading to take ubuntu studio
[12:36] <Teleport> cheers all
[12:36] <Teleport> cya
[12:36] <cfhowlett_> Teleport, best of luck.
[12:36] <pulsar78> makara: what do you mean ?
[12:36] <Teleport> cfhowlett_ btw which version do you offer?
[12:37] <cfhowlett_> Teleport, offer?  you mean use, right?  I'm on Ubuntustudio 12.04 - I only install LTS, lot's fewer headaches.  Been on US since it first came out.
[12:37] <philinux> makara:  lirc is ifra red remote
[12:37] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have a ubuntu server 12.04 32 bits and i would like to upgrade it to 13.04 however do-release-upgrade do not show me any upgrade;
[12:38] <Teleport> cfhowlett_ ah same here okay thanks
[12:38] <cfhowlett_> troulouliou_dev, it won't.  you can only directly upgrade to 12.10 then to 13.04
[12:38] <makara> i see, not www.vonnieda.org/software/lirc
[12:38] <nickVSS> Hello man
[12:39] <cfhowlett_> troulouliou_dev, and since the current release is 13.10, you have to clean install 13.04.  do-release-upgrade won't get you there.
[12:39] <troulouliou_dev> cfhowlett_, found it i had to edit prompt=normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[12:39] <cfhowlett_> troulouliou_dev, so it works now?
[12:39] <troulouliou_dev> cfhowlett_, yes it was stick to lts
[12:40] <cfhowlett_> troulouliou_dev, LTS is usually recommended for servers ...
[12:40] <troulouliou_dev> thats theory :)
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: you need to edit a file so it looks for the inbetwenen versions, between the LTS
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: you do know that Trusty is out in April and you can upgrade to that in one jump. Any particular reason to leave the LTS>
[13:03] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, found it thak swas in  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: just seems weird, specially for a server
[13:05] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, there is a bug in recent kernel that will prevent me from upgrading to 14.04, so i  compiled my own 3.12 kernel and guess it is better to upgrade to 13.10 aleady
[13:05] <dfcnvt> Just recently, I upgraded my system and learned that it crashed....
[13:06] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, i just need it for an adsl gateway with ppoe/iptables/tc / snort and banyard2
[13:06] <dfcnvt> On this system... I'm lucky to figure out to get myself on the terminal and use irssi and connect to this channel.
[13:07] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, it is possible to swithc from 12.04 to 14..04 without installing 12.10/13.04/13.10 ??
[13:09] <dfcnvt> I am currently on safe-mode... Anybody know how to switch to read/write mode and get back to apt-get upgrade?
[13:09] <OerHeks> troulouliou_dev, no
[13:09] <twisted`> FloodBot2: f off
[13:10] <twisted`> ok @#%&@$*^ with those floodbots
[13:10] <icardi94> ciao
[13:12] <icardi94> :list
[13:12] <k1l_> !list | icardi94
[13:12] <cynicist> dfcnvt: 'mount -o rw,remount /'
[13:18] <troulouliou_dev> OerHeks, ok ActionParsnip seem to tell the opposite wanted to be sure :)
[13:19] <dfcnvt> cynicist: Thanks, I will try it out.
[13:19] <OerHeks> troulouliou_dev, no he does not. you can jump from lts to lts.
[13:19] <OerHeks> but you have to wait untill 14.04 lts comes out
[13:19] <troulouliou_dev> OerHeks, ha yes sure, didn't know that
[13:20] <troulouliou_dev> i tought intermediate where mandatory
[13:20] <k1l_> OerHeks: actually its 14.04.1 until LTS upgrade will work
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: you can go diurect to 14.04 from 12.04 as it is LTS to LTS and is supported
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: if you wnat 13.10 you will need to upgrade through each release in turn
[13:21] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, ok didn't know that lts to lts jump where allowded
[13:21] <troulouliou_dev> that great then
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: absolutely, its why LTS is great for servers :)
[13:21] <troulouliou_dev> don't even have to bother with 12.10...13.10
[13:21] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, indeed yes
[13:23] <cfhowlett> troulouliou_dev, read more.  update less.
[13:28] <Richhh> still getting DRDY ERR booting gparted / ATA IO errors installing/trying (l)ubuntu, have tried changing SATA cables and ports, redetecting HD in bios, replacing HDD with new Western Digital drive, tried msdos and gpt tables, tried ext3 and ext4 file systems, guessing its a hardware problem with the motherboard, so i'll need to replace that, right?
[13:32] <OerHeks> Richhh, last resort: check your bios, see if the sata controller is set to AHCI, not ide mode
[13:32] <Richhh> ok
[13:37] <Richhh> ATA modes are IDE (selected) and RAID only
[13:39] <Pricey> !abs
[13:41] <Richhh> interestingly memtest86 always reboots before completion on its first run, later runs complete with errors, 'check disc for errors' reports 1 error found on first run, no errors on later runs
[13:42] <Richhh> still getting read errors  when trying to install lubuntu
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Richhh: you sure the drive is healthy?
[13:42] <compdoc> Richhh, you need to read the drive's SMART info
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Richhh: have you tested it using the manufacturers too on the ultimate boot cd?
[13:42] <Richhh> the hdd is brand new, its showing the same errors as the last drive
[13:43] <compdoc> thats not good
[13:43] <Number5> Hello guys, is there a commandline tool to read a codesnippet from a service like pastebin? This way, I could read snippets and paste it in Vim or some other text editors.
[13:43] <OerHeks> Richhh, then your motherboard is faulty or your memory.
[13:43] <nabn> hi. i am using gnome-session-fallback (no effects) on an installation of ubuntu 13.04. I just  did this to my power/wifi/settings indicators on the top right : alt-right click-remove from panel. How do i restore those indicators please?
[13:43] <compdoc> Richhh, any bad caps on the motherboard
[13:43] <compdoc> ?
[13:43] <Richhh> error reading /lib/udev/hwdb.bin: No such file or directory
[13:43] <Richhh> ill check
[13:44] <Richhh> (compdoc)
[13:44] <Richhh> correction: interestingly memtest86 always reboots before completion on its first run, later runs complete ***without*** errors, 'check disc for errors' reports 1 error found on first run, no errors on later runs
[13:45] <dfcnvt> cynicist: Thank you! I ran 'mount -o rw,remount /' then 'apt-get upgrade' It worked like a charm!!! I'm currently back on the normal system. Able to get on desktop and can access to everything. Whew!
[13:45] <compdoc> Richhh, the PSU could be suspect as well
[13:45] <cynicist> dfcnvt: great man I'm glad I could help :)
[13:51] <Richhh> i have another psu i can try
[13:51] <cynicist> Richhh: sounds like your hard drive is going bad, you can get a diagnostic tool from the manufacturer of your hd in order to be certain
[13:51] <Richhh> doubtful since its new and giving the same errors as the previous (which was working in windows)
[13:52] <dfcnvt> Is there a way to upgrade the priority? LIke, only upgrade core system and ignore the rest of miscellaeous software. So, I can save trouble the next time I upgrade it.
[13:53] <Nach0z> dfcnvt: theoretically you could just specify what packages you want to upgrade
[13:53] <Nach0z> and it'll upgrade those along with requirements for those
[13:55] <cynicist> Richhh: well if it is new it may just be a kernel bug, try booting with 'acpi=off noapic'
[13:55] <Richhh> tried
[13:56] <dfcnvt> Nach0z: I sense the way it upgraded is completely wrong. It should be a priority order rather than all software because sometime it tend to interrupted and screw the entire system.
[13:57] <cfhowlett_> dfcnvt, see system > update manger settings
[13:57] <cynicist> Richh: mind linking to the output of dmesg on pastebin?
[13:57] <Richhh> ok
[13:57] <hongker> hello
[13:58] <Nach0z> dfcnvt: I've never seen upgrades interrupt themselves on my systems
[13:59] <cynicist> dfcnvt: right now this distinction doesn't exist, though I think I read that canonical may try to implement it in the future
[13:59] <RebootKidd> Hello everyone
[13:59] <RebootKidd> Hello everyone.  trying to run a perl script in xchat and I get this error " Unknown file type Maybe you need to install the Perl or Python plugin"  Any thoughts
[14:00] <pluesch0r> hi everybody. i'm on ubuntu precise here, got a question concerning the removal of old kernels.
[14:01] <cynicist> RebootKidd: http://xchat.org/faq/#q216
[14:02] <pluesch0r> my boxes have been running for a while now and i'd like to remove all kernels that are not being used anymore. i've noticed that /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal is already massaging apt configs to not remove the current and the two latest kernels (via generating /etc/apt//apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels). but how do i actually remove the old kernels? apt-get autoremove doesn't try to dump them.
[14:04] <RebootKidd> cynicist thank you for the link but I have tried that and I show perl is running
[14:04] <dfcnvt> Nach0z: In my lifetime I've experienced it five time whenever I allow it to upgrade to new kernel / OS's version.
[14:04] <dfcnvt> Thanks anyway, I am okay with what I have now.
[14:04] <dfcnvt> Alright, i'm out.
[14:04] <chabsgrabs9> hey, how do I remove a symbolic link ? I created this link using this command "ln -sf /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.0" and need to remove it,
[14:05] <pluesch0r> oh .. i think i'm experiencing this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/+bug/1157746
[14:05] <chabsgrabs9> if anyone can help that would be amazing
[14:05] <cynicist> pluesch0r: Use 'dpkg -l|grep linux-image-' to list your installed kernels and then you can use 'sudo apt-get autoremove linux-image-(version)' to remove the older ones
[14:07] <cynicist> RebootKidd: then besides reloading it I'm not sure what is going on :\
[14:07] <pluesch0r> cynicist: the idea is to not having to do this manually. i haven't installed any kernels by hand .. but still, they're being listed when i execute apt-mark showmanual | grep linux-image
[14:07] <pluesch0r> so .. how do i fix this?
[14:08] <Nach0z> ... :|
[14:08] <Nach0z> dfcnvt left way too fast
[14:09] <pluesch0r> cynicist: when i execute "apt-get autoremove linux-image*" it also lists the kernels explicitly configured as "NeverAutoRemove" in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels
[14:12] <cynicist> pluesch0r: I assumed you wanted to remove a kernel manually, afaik ubuntu already has a script that holds back the last 3 installed kernels, that's why apt generated that file to prohibit their removal
[14:13] <bamdad> Hi
[14:13] <bamdad> What is this path being used for : /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.mirrors
[14:13] <pluesch0r> cynicist: as i stated before: i see the autoremove prohibit stuff and so on. but when i issue apt-get autoremove, the kernels that should be listed aren't.
[14:13] <cynicist> pluesch0r: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[14:14] <cfhowlett> pluesch0r, autoremove doesn't remove kernels so far as I know
[14:14] <h0m1x> Hi
[14:14] <pluesch0r> they've been piling up since linux-image-2.6.32-22-server
[14:14] <cfhowlett> h0m1x, greetings
[14:14] <yassine_> hello
[14:14] <cfhowlett> pluesch0r, list them and manuall remove em
[14:14] <pluesch0r> cfhowlett: how do i autoremove them, then? or .. what's the reason for setting up the whole autoremove apt config shebang in the first place, then?
[14:14] <pluesch0r> there has to be a reason for those postinst hooks.
[14:14] <h0m1x> I have atheros 9287 wireless driver, now I've installed aircrack on ubuntu which doesn't show me the interface how can I make sure the ubuntu has recognized the wirelesss driver?
[14:14] <pluesch0r> according to the bug report i've posted before, it should also be working.
[14:15] <pluesch0r> just trying to find out why it isn't working on my side. got 200+ boxes with several gigabytes of unused kernel images clogging the disks.
[14:15] <cfhowlett> pluesch0r, again, autoremove kills orphaned programs - NOT essential kernels.  dpkg --get selections | grep linux-image
[14:15] <h0m1x> Can someone possibly reply? it's urgent.
[14:16] <cfhowlett> pluesch0r, then sudo apt-get purge linux-image-*.*.*.8
[14:16] <pluesch0r> cfhowlett: they are listed 'install'
[14:16] <cfhowlett> pluesch0r, how many?
[14:16] <cfhowlett> pluesch0r, never mind.  Personally, I'd recommend you keep the most recent 3.
[14:17] <pluesch0r> cfhowlett: 28
[14:17] <cfhowlett> h0m1x, aircrack isn't supported here.  sorry.
[14:17] <pluesch0r> cfhowlett: that's what i'm trying to do.
[14:17] <pluesch0r> cfhowlett: i know that i can just write a script to do this, don't get me wrong. if this was just one box i wouldn't bother.
[14:18] <pluesch0r> cfhowlett: but it seems to me that all the mechanisms are in place to keep the two latest + the currently running kernel when issuing 'apt-get autoremove' or god-knows-what-other command.
[14:18] <pluesch0r> cfhowlett: otherwise, those kernel versions wouldn't explicitly be listed in the apt configuration.
[14:19] <cynicist> pluesch0r: ah I see someone had a similar issue, where his kernels were being marked as manually installed and that caused the apt autoremoval script to ignore them
[14:19] <h0m1x> cfhowlett: It's not the matter of aircrack its the matter of the capability of ubuntu to recognize the wireless driver.
[14:19] <cfhowlett> pluesch0r, I was unware you were scripting.  sorry.  way over my head.
[14:19] <cfhowlett> !atheros
[14:19] <h0m1x> any wireless driver for the atheros? how can I make sure that the ubuntu has recognized the atheros 9287?
[14:19] <cynicist> pluesch0r: his solution was to add a postinstall script to change the flag to automatic so the script would pick them up
[14:20] <pluesch0r> cynicist: yeah, that's the link that i posted before. but they were doing some FAI stuff; that's not us.
[14:20] <cynicist> pluesch0r: https://bugs.launchpad.net/aptdaemon/+bug/1078544
[14:20] <OerHeks> h0m1x, lolz why is cracking urgent?
[14:21] <pluesch0r> cynicist: for example, linux-image-3.2.0-40-generic is marked as auto over here. it's still not being autoremoved. it's also not listed as being protected in the apt.conf stuff
[14:21] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, netflix dr. who
[14:21] <cynicist> pluesch0r: well it was mentioned that it could be an apt bug
[14:21] <h0m1x> OerHeks: Cracking is not urgent, having the internet via ubuntu is urgent.
[14:22] <pluesch0r> cfhowlett: no worries. scripting would be my last resort. from what i've in the system it seems that this should happen automatically, but it isn't happening.
[14:22] <h0m1x> OerHeks: And of course it's none of your damn business!
[14:22] <cynicist> pluesch0r: not necessarily related to the FAI stuff
[14:23] <pluesch0r> cynicist: we're not using FAI. this is just plain vanilla ubuntu. there are kernel images marked as manually installed, yes .. but there are also some that are being marked as "auto" and that still won't uninstall.
[14:24] <cynicist> pluesch0r: yeah you are missing my point, I know you are not using FAI, what I'm saying is you may be running into a bug in some part of the apt process, the link above was just one example
[14:24] <philinux> Adobe acroread on ubuntu 13.10 - whats the correct way to get this now?
[14:25] <pluesch0r> cynicist: gotcha. that was the reason why i came here in the first place. :)
[14:25] <pluesch0r> cynicist: i'll just write a script that removes all kernels but the ones being listed in that apt.conf file. *sigh*
[14:26] <OerHeks> philinux, sudo apt-get install acroread
[14:26] <philinux> OerHeks: not in any repo now thanks
[14:26] <philinux> not in extra partner
[14:27] <bgardner> h0m1x: Did you see the link that cfhowlett gave you?
[14:28] <h0m1x> bgardner: I'm checking
[14:28] <OerHeks> oh acroread is gone with 13.10, good. there are plenty pdf readers, evince as standard
[14:29] <Touhou11> You can download the official Acrobat reader from the Adobe site still
[14:30] <OerHeks> philinux, There is an topic full of help, howto install acroread from adobe and what to do when it fails > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2181100
[14:33] <philinux> OerHeks: got that now. I download from adobe. Gdebi is doing it's stuff
[14:34] <Richhh> cynicist permissed denied trying to write to my pen drive
[14:34] <Richhh> (from gparted's terminal)
[14:34] <Richhh> permission*
[14:35] <philinux> OerHeks: all dependecies satisfied and it works (64 bit ubuntu)
[14:35] <cynicist> Richhh: you mean from the gparted livecd?
[14:35] <stewbuntu> hello - I have a question, anyone available
[14:35] <Richhh> yep
[14:35] <stewbuntu> I tried to install ubuntu dual boot and messed up and installed it over my OS, well the dual boot screen I think called grub 2 was mia, So I added ubuntu to an external hardrive via live cd and booted the external HDD and wala the old windows drive was there so I saved everything I needed to a 2nd external. So, I forgot to take of external #2 and put in my recovery disks to start a fresh windows 7 os and start all over and get ubu
[14:35] <cynicist> Richhh: use 'sudo su' first to get a root terminal
[14:36] <kl]starklawd> hi! how can i find out what kind of audio server a machine uses?
[14:36] <cynicist> Richhh: or just su, not sure how that livecd is configured
[14:36] <Richhh> worked thanks
[14:36] <cynicist> Richhh: np
[14:36] <zykotick9> cynicist: DON'T suggest sudo su!  Richhh use "sudo -i" instead
[14:36] <OerHeks> philinux, have fun!
[14:37] <cynicist> zykotick9: he's using a livecd
[14:37] <zykotick9> cynicist: still...  bad advice
[14:37] <Richhh> ok noted
[14:37] <railsraider> Hi, I have 14 upstart jobs, each is very intensive CPU load, i need to find a way to restart all of them in batch one by one cause if i try to run all of them the server is dead until it finish
[14:37] <cynicist> zykotick9: not really
[14:38] <OerHeks> cynicist, zykotick9 is right, it is.
[14:39] <cynicist> OerHeks: that only matters if you are concerned about root taking over your user files, since he is on a livecd without a user account at all it doesn't make a difference how he gets to root
[14:39] <stewbuntu> fyi all old posts in forums have still lead me to the grub rescue line
[14:39] <linuxuz3r> how do i fix my flash player colors
[14:39] <zykotick9> cynicist: then suggest "sudo -i", DON'T teach people the wrong method (they'll use it when they aren't suppose to, and break things!)
[14:40] <philinux> OerHeks: I mainly use evince but the occasional complicated pdf is beyond it.
[14:40] <gvo> what can't you break with sudo that you can with su?
[14:40] <cynicist> zykotick9: or they will come to this channel and ask, like he did
[14:41] <linuxuz3r> i have incorrect video colors how do i fix this
[14:42] <linuxuz3r> anyone
[14:43] <stewbuntu> bios is set, live cd or recovery cd will not boot before grub rescue screen. what now?
[14:43] <Touhou11> linuxuz3r: How incorrect? Slightly out, or drastically wrong
[14:43] <Richhh> cynicist http://pastebin.com/vDf73h5h
[14:43] <linuxuz3r> Touhou11, people are colored blue
[14:47] <sgo11> Hi, I have two machines. Two have the same ubuntu version and kernel version. I added a module by compiling the kernel in one machine. it's a pen tablet module. it works fine in that machine. Now, I copy the kernel .deb packages to the second machine and install the compiled .deb kernel directly. The module works with a problem. can anyone tell me why? how to fix? do I have to compile the kernel in every m
[14:47] <sgo11> achine for this purpose? thanks.
[14:47] <stewbuntu> I tried to install ubuntu dual boot and messed up and installed it over my OS, well the dual boot screen I think called grub 2 was mia, So I added ubuntu to an external hardrive via live cd and booted the external HDD and wala the old windows drive was there so I saved everything I needed to a 2nd external. So, I forgot to take of external #2 and put in my recovery disks to start a fresh windows 7 os and start all over and get ubu
[14:48] <stewbuntu>  The copy my files. I went to boot windows and realized the external was still connected when it booted ubuntu even after post recovery was done and the 3rd cd popped out. Dooh :( so now I unplug external #1 and try to boot = grub rescue, try recovery cd with bios set to boot cd 1st = grub rescue, every cd including the live cd will not boot and it goes to grub rescue.
[14:49] <stewbuntu> I can always put in the external and boot. The cd's will not boot even with the bios set and external #1 connected. Now that I have the data I just need to get passed this grub rescue screen and get new installations going. How can I get this to work? I think I have layers upon layers messed up now. I did choose the external drive when it asked where to load the ubuntu bootloader with external drive#1 when I saved my data original
[14:49] <stewbuntu> drives/partitions when I booted from the external #1 originally
[14:50] <newbie_87D> how ! i just downloaded a theme package. how to install  it without using the tweak tool
[14:50] <Richhh> cynicist any ideas?
[14:51] <cynicist> Richhh: yeah, first of all it's your cd drive that is having issues
[14:51] <cynicist> Richhh: can't tell if it is a kernel bug/regression, bios, firmware, or cabling but it is one of those
[14:51] <stewbuntu> just plugged in an external cd drive
[14:52] <stewbuntu> nothing
[14:52] <stewbuntu> bios reads it htough
[14:52] <stewbuntu> though
[14:52] <stewbuntu> can i run code from grub rescue line?
[14:54] <stewbuntu> can I wipe the boot loader on the internal HDD when booting from the external
[14:55] <cynicist> Richhh: my advice would be to use another computer to create a usb boot disk and install from that instead of trying to use a cd
[14:55] <stewbuntu> ok I work on that
[14:55] <stewbuntu> THANKS
[14:55] <Richhh> i didnt check the motherboard caps yet
[14:56] <stewbuntu> DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT
[14:56] <cynicist> Richhh: I think it's likely some bug affecting your particular cd drive
[14:56] <Richhh> has a mobo problem been ruled out?
[14:56] <stewbuntu> mobno issue
[14:56] <stewbuntu> mobo
[14:56] <stewbuntu> worked yesterday
[14:56] <Richhh> cynicist the previous DVD drive did not read the ubuntu disc at all, i replaced with another and it read
[14:56] <Richhh> (but with io errors, wasnt sure if they were dvd drive related)
[14:56] <cynicist> Richh: could be the data cable to your cd drive, like I said I would just use a usb disk
[14:56] <Richhh> ok
[14:57] <Richhh> thx
[14:57] <cynicist> Richh: the dmesg you linked indicated the io errors were related to the drive you used
[14:57] <cynicist> Richh: np
[14:57] <odla> hi, i just logged into gmail for the first time on ubuntu and asked me to install some extra stuff for gmail. can someone tell me what this is?
[14:57] <Richhh> (optical drive?)
[14:57] <cynicist> Richhh: yeah sorry to be clear, your optical not your hard drive
[14:57] <Richhh> ok
[14:58] <odla> it add a launcher to my panel
[14:58] <odla> did it install anything else? can i just remove the launcher?
[14:58] <cynicist> odla: it's called a web app, basically a launcher on your panel that will open the site directly
[14:58] <Pumpkin-_> win 14
[14:58] <Pumpkin-_> asfdasfa
[14:59] <odla> cynicist: so it just created a launcher? it didn't install anything from the ubuntu repos (i.e. it didn't do some apt-get magic?)
[14:59] <Celestar> I just upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10. Now gnome/unity is not starting at all. In XFCE4, when starting the appfinder, I get this error:  Failed to open window: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[14:59] <Celestar> What am I doing wrong there...
[14:59] <cynicist> odla: no it definitely installed using apt, specifically the unity-webapps-gmail package
[14:59] <odla> cynicist: ah
[15:00] <cynicist> odla: you can remove it or just remove the launcher, no harm
[15:00] <odla> cynicist: thanks
[15:00] <cynicist> odla: if you want to disable that functionality just go to firefox preferences > general and uncheck "Prompt integration options for any website"
[15:00] <cynicist> odla: np
[15:01] <Celestar> it feels like some ibus/dbus permission problem, so if anyone has a smart idea how to fix that, I'm all ears :P
[15:02] <helmut_> hi
[15:19] <Danato> can anybody tell me how to fix this?
[15:19] <Danato> configure: error: ConsoleKit autoconfigured, but systemd is in use (missing libsystemd-login pkg-config?)
[15:20] <Guest73938> test
[15:21] <Danato> Guest73938: your test didnt work :P
[15:21] <Guest73938> hi
[15:21] <Guest73938> test
[15:21] <Danato> didnt work again
[15:24] <andyc> anyone have experience with sshfs and fstab?  I'm struggling to get it to automount
[15:25] <andyc> (on startup)
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> andyc: if you have the entry, does it mount if you run:  sudo mount -a
[15:25] <andyc> ActionParsnip, yes
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> andyc: add that command in /etc/rc.local   but above the 'exit 0' line and it will mount
[15:26] <dagle> When I do an uefi ubuntu install at my friends computer, grub goes droping to shell and wont boot the installed ubuntu. Where should I start to debug? I could just install everything manually but I don't want to maintain the machine more than I am (and he should be able to reinstall in the future etc).
[15:27] <andyc> ActionParsnip, Do I need sudo or is that run as root?
[15:27] <dagle> I can't even seem to find an error, just grub dropping to a shell.
[15:27] <Pumpkin-_> 100./win 21
[15:27] <andyc> guess it doesn't really matter
[15:27] <Pumpkin-_> asfihasfhafs
[15:46] <Lockzi> Hello, I am having problems in Ubuntu 13.04 that it tries to mount my CIFS shares in /etc/fstab before the network is up. What's the best way to solve this? I also want to make sure that my services are not started before the network interface is up and that these shares has been mounted - thus, is there a way to prioritise network interface?
[15:52] <bgardner> andyc: rc.local runs as root.
[15:52] <optraz> hi, after upgraded to saucy, i cannot reach the webpage anymore
[15:52] <optraz> any idea why?
[15:54] <andyc> bgardner, It still doesn't work for some reason.
[15:54] <andyc> Will only mount after boot with sudo mount -a
[15:55] <andyc> Quite annoying but not the end of the world
[15:56] <sebas_> hello all
[15:57] <bgardner> andyc: I suppose the "Right Way" would be to make it an upstart job with defined dependencies, but I don't know how to do that.  Perhaps you can make a script that says 'sleep 5000; mount -a' and then call that from rc.local (giving it as scriptname&).  Comments from others as to how sane this idea is?
[15:57] <sebas_> Is there a way to hide the mouse cursor while typing? I use a Desktop machine and no laptop so I cannot do the touchpad option.
[15:58] <optraz> any extra repository for ubuntu?
[15:58] <bgardner> andyc: Sorry, that's sleep 5, not sleep 5000.
[15:58] <andyc> Actually referring to http://superuser.com/questions/669287/automount-sshfs-using-fstab-without-mount-a, it appears someone with 13.10 is having a similar problem
[15:59] <sebas_> I googled for it for a long time but cannot find anything about hiding mousecursor. I do find a lot about the touchpad option but that's for laptop if I understand correctly.
[16:01] <fishbrain> hello
[16:01] <fishbrain> i kinda screwed up my Xorg or something
[16:01] <zykotick9> sebas_: i've never heard of an option for hiding mouse cursor (except for touchpads), that's not to say it doesn't exist though... good luck.
[16:01] <BvL> sebas_ which version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:01] <fishbrain> it worked ok until i installed fglrx. it didn't work so i removed it with 'sudo apt-get remove fglrx' and now after login i only get the background screen
[16:02] <fishbrain> 13.04
[16:02] <fishbrain> no launcher or top bar or nothing :O
[16:02] <sebas_> zykotick9: weird eh? Am I the only one that finds this feature handy? thanx for replying though
[16:02] <sebas_> BvL: 13.10
[16:03] <BvL> sebas_ i have an idea ill test it out on my end
[16:03] <fishbrain> anyone know how i can get my desktop back :O
[16:04] <sebas_> BvL: thanx!
[16:05] <flappy> heyo
[16:07] <flappy> Anyone know anything about 13.10 suddenly not recognizing input devices/screens on boot
[16:08] <fishbrain> can anyone help me get my desktop back ?
[16:08] <adamk> fishbrain: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[16:09] <BluesKaj> fishbrain. what error , or just a blinking cursor ?
[16:09] <fishbrain> cursor and the background pic
[16:09] <fishbrain> using irssi on tty1 now to get here :)
[16:09] <fishbrain> login screen is fine
[16:10] <fishbrain> but when i login the top bar disappears and i get no launcher
[16:10] <BluesKaj> so you have a tty , have you tried startx , fishbrain ?
[16:10] <fishbrain> admak can't pastebin
[16:10] <flappy> I'm having much the same problem as fishbrain
[16:10] <adamk> fishbrain: Why not?
[16:11] <fishbrain> adamk with what? :O
[16:11] <adamk> fishbrain: pastebinit
[16:11] <fishbrain> startx just asks my password and same result
[16:11] <flappy> Booting brings up the screen/input device not recognized error box, then some selections that show no actual errors from what I see
[16:11] <fishbrain> also killing Xorg restarts it and takes me back to login screen
[16:12] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: <sorry, i'm on a personal campaign with this right now> blease don't use tty to mean "console/linux console/VT" - a tty is ANY terminal.  console or xorg...  using the wrong terms for things, makes everyones lives more difficult (in the long run)
[16:12] <adamk> fishbrain: It's likely either a problem with your drivers, or a configuration problem with unity.  Your Xorg log file will rule out or confirm if it's a video driver issue.
[16:13] <fishbrain> it worked fine until i installed fglrx. which didn't work so i removed it.
[16:13] <flappy> Starting X via commandline on tty5 gives me the normal-style screen without the top bar.
[16:13] <adamk> fishbrain: So, again, pastebin your Xorg log file.
[16:13] <flappy> Should I paste my xorg log too, adamk?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> zykotick9. ok does virtual terminal sound right ? , some ppl might not know what the correct term is , including me
[16:14] <adamk> flappy: Sure, why not.
[16:14] <adamk> I'm feeling generous today.
[16:14] <flappy> Great, thank
[16:14] <flappy> s
[16:14] <BvL> sebas_: The auto hiding of the curse is app specific, there is no os wide setting for this
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> fishbrain: how exactly did you install fglrx and how exactly did you remove it?
[16:14] <fishbrain> adamk how? :) sorry
[16:15] <adamk> fishbrain: again, use pastebinit.
[16:15] <fishbrain> hitsujiTMO: install 'sudo apt-get install fglrx' and removed with 'sudo apt-get remove fglrx'
[16:15] <BvL> sebas_: thats what it looks like at least
[16:16] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: i "understand" the commonly "tty" is meant as the console on F1 to F6 by default... but this is actually _incorrect_ usage, so, in a way i'm asking what we should "correctly" refer to them as.  The options are console, linux console, virtual terminal (vt)...  i can't think of any others right now ;)
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> fishbrain: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:16] <BvL> Correction > (11:14:29 AM) BvL: sebas_: The auto hiding of the  *cursor* is app specific, there is no os wide setting for this
[16:17] <BluesKaj> zykotick9.  let's just accept the fact that TTY is linuc vernacular , a misnomer maybe , but still in common use for the virtual terminal afaik
[16:18] <Faryshta> hi. can you recommend me a tool for UML modeling on ubuntu?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> linuc=linux
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> fishbrain: it would prob help to get the dmesg too: dmesg | pastebinit
[16:18] <fishbrain> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6416535/
[16:18] <fishbrain> there :)
[16:18] <fishbrain> had to install pastebinit first
[16:19] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: sorry, error, does not compute ;)  i'll drop it... for now ;)  "echo $TERM" in a console, it return's "linux" 'cause that's what it really is (FYI, linux consoles are "weak", pretty much everyone has given up on them)
[16:20] <adamk> fishbrain: Well your driver appears to be installed just fine, thankfully.
[16:20] <flappy> http:/paste.ubuntu.com/6416548
[16:20] <adamk> fishbrain: Which leads me to believe that there's a configuration problem with Unity.
[16:21] <fishbrain> adamk: fglrx install/remove messed it up?
[16:21] <fishbrain> can i reinstall unity or something?
[16:21] <flappy> and dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6416556
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> fishbrain: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:22] <fishbrain> 13.04
[16:22] <sebas__> BvL: Thanks for checking!
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> fishbrain: sudo apt-get install dconf-tools && dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[16:22] <the_drow> Hi guys, I'm trying to install a python dependency using pip and I'm getting fatal error: limits.h: No such file or directory from gcc.
[16:23] <BvL> sebas__: np
[16:23] <kusumahdilaga> blinking cursor after install GNOME 3.10.1 in ubuntu 13.10 you can fix it in terminal 'gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.cursor active false' dont forget logout and try to login again
[16:23] <the_drow> What's missing exactly? I have installed linux-libc-dev
[16:24] <deveras> hi. Just installed NTP, the service is running, but running ntpd -q gives me no output. Is there a way for me to check if the synchronisation has been completed?
[16:24] <SuperLag> What is the closed-source binary for ATI/AMD video cards? Catalyst?
[16:24] <adamk> SuperLag: Catalyst aka fglrx
[16:25] <SuperLag> Is this something you can download and install from the amd.com websit? or is it like nvidia, where you want to use the distro's packaged version?
[16:25] <SuperLag> website, that is
[16:25] <fishbrain> hitsujiTMO: 'i get a Child process exited with code 1' when doing dconf reset -f /org/compiz
[16:26] <Anwar> any fellow swedes around?
[16:27] <BvL> does anyone here know lightdm? i need to fix it
[16:27] <BvL> it was broken on install
[16:28] <fishbrain> ..
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> fishbrain: what's the exact error? is there not more than that?
[16:29] <fishbrain> how do i redirect error stream to a file?
[16:29] <fishbrain> >> don't work :)
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> &>
[16:29] <fishbrain> ok
[16:29] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: why do you want to install fglrx? it has terrible 2d acceleration
[16:29] <BvL> symptoms: lightdm usually fails to start on boot up (no gui login), if i switch user or logout there is no gui login, on lightdm fail i get the blinking text courser (" _ ") on the top left
[16:29] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: if you're not even going to game, I do not recommend you installing it
[16:30] <fishbrain> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6416592/
[16:30] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: you can either try installing it from ubuntu's repos (apt-get install fglrx or apt-get install flgrx-updates) or you can install it from the site, which I don't recommend
[16:31] <SuperLag> Ari-Yang: so you're telling me that the open-source radeon driver has better graphics quality than the closed-source driver provided by ATI/AMD?
[16:32] <CatKiller> How would that be surprising?
[16:32] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: no, I'm telling you that radeon has superior 2d acceleration compared to fglrx. Are you going to be gaming?
[16:32] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: what card do you have?
[16:32] <CatKiller> Team of people motivated to write good code with good reviewing peers write code against team of undermotivated Windows employees from a company that doesn't really care about Linux driver's quality and has a bad reputation about drivers in general
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> fishbrain: can you go back to X and spawn a terminal there (ctrl + alt + t) and try the command in the terminal that way
[16:33] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: fglrx though is better for 3D I guess BUT if you use latest radeon driver and mesa you'll get performance with radeon that rivals fglrx (I know some heavy gamers who have switched over from fglrx to open source radeon)
[16:33] <SuperLag> Ari-Yang: currently I have an RV610. I'm switching to an X1300, because of the form factor of the card. (switched from a low-profile system, to a full-sized desktop)
[16:34] <adamk> SuperLag: Then the proprietary driver isn't even an option with any recent distribution.
[16:34] <fishbrain> hitsujiTMO: yup no error there
[16:34] <SuperLag> adamk: why not?
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> fishbrain: relog
[16:34] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: oh so you have a hd2000 series card?
[16:34] <fishbrain> hitsujiTMO: should i try and restart Xorg
[16:34] <fishbrain> hitsujiTMO: sudo killall Xorg :)
[16:34] <BluesKaj> hitsujiTMO. on some setups ctrl + alt + t , doesn't work anymore
[16:34] <adamk> SuperLag: AMD dropped support for pre HD5xxx GPUs in recent versions of the driver.
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> fishbrain: relog should be suficient
[16:34] <fishbrain> ok
[16:34] <jmgk> Ragnar:
[16:34] <BluesKaj> hitsujiTMO. including mine
[16:34] <jmgk> darn it
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> BluesKaj: in unity?
[16:35] <SuperLag> adamk: ah, okay
[16:35] <BluesKaj> no , kde
[16:35] <Ari-Yang> adamk: I thought people with hd2000 series cards can use legacy fglrx
[16:35] <Ari-Yang> yeah they can..
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> BluesKaj: ctrl + alt + t is the default for gnome (and unity) . i know he was running unity.
[16:36] <fishbrain> hitsujiTMO: seems to work though resolution is f*d up
[16:36] <fishbrain> hitsujiTMO: thanks :)
[16:36] <SuperLag> Ari-Yang: adamk: I'm just having some stuff in Unity perform *really* bad... and my system has a LOT of resources (i7 quad 3.4GHz, 32GB of RAM, SSD) so that this is surprising)
[16:36] <adamk> Ari-Yang: Sure, if they downgrade all of Xorg and their kernel.
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> fishbrain: np
[16:36] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: what ubuntu version are you on?
[16:36] <Ari-Yang> adamk: ah I see...
[16:36] <SuperLag> Ari-Yang: 13.10
[16:36] <BluesKaj> hitsujiTMO. odd , because it used to work about 3-4 versions ago , anyway sorry to interrupt
[16:37] <adamk> SuperLag: And that's sitll only true for HD2xxx through HD4xxx GPUs.  The X1300 was dropped even further back.
[16:37] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: try this... open terminal, run gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[16:37] <fishbrain> awesome
[16:37] <fishbrain> now back to messsing it up again
[16:38] <adamk> SuperLag: If you show us your Xorg log file, we might be able to see if something is wrong.
[16:38] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: once you do that make the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" line look like this:
[16:38] <Ari-Yang> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.dpm=1"
[16:38] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: save it, close gedit, then run sudo update-grub and then reboot and come back
[16:38] <jmgk> hi all
[16:39] <SuperLag> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6416628/
[16:39] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: did you edit the grub file?
[16:39] <SuperLag> Just did.
[16:40] <SuperLag> haven't rebooted yet
[16:40] <cynicist> If you are enabling dpm you need to get the latest firmware for your card as well
[16:40] <cynicist> http://people.freedesktop.org/~agd5f/radeon_ucode/
[16:40] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: okay go on ahead and reboot and come back
[16:40] <zafer> join #zapf
[16:40] <Ari-Yang> cynicist: no he doesn't
[16:40] <Ari-Yang> cynicist: he's on 13.10
[16:40] <Ari-Yang> cynicist: which has the latest stuff already for dpm
[16:40] <cynicist> ah ok
[16:41] <cynicist> I'm pretending 13.10 doesn't exist, carry on
[16:41] <Ari-Yang> cynicist: why? I'm curious...
[16:41] <cynicist> joking
[16:41] <adamk> SuperLag: Nothing out of the ordinary in your log file. Looks like the drivers are working fine.
[16:41] <Ari-Yang> oh lol
[16:41] <jmgk> LOLOLOLOLOl
[16:41] <Ari-Yang> adamk: I blame unity3D
[16:41] <jmgk> @ cynicist
[16:42] <Faryshta> hi. can you recommend me a tool for UML modeling on ubuntu?
[16:42] <SuperLag>  cynicist : what's wrong with 13.10? :)
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: after your reboot and still get lag maybe it's best to use a differend DE like cinnamon
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> * different
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: please reboot and come back
[16:43] <flappy> hitsuj1, any idea on my situation since your fix for fishbrain wirked so well?
[16:43] <cynicist> SuperLag: Nothing it's amazing, typing from it now. I just forgot that the new firmware came out months ago and Ubuntu typically updates things with new releases :P
[16:43] <Danato> hi jmgk :P
[16:43] <flappy> Running ubuntu 13.10
[16:44] <jmgk> hey Danato
[16:44] <Ari-Yang> cynicist: I'm disappointed (better yet disgusted) that ubuntu doesn't have native vdpau support on 13.10 for radeon :/
[16:44] <Ari-Yang> cynicist, flappy, is 13.10 stable? Or have you come across major/minor bugs?
[16:44] <cynicist> Ari-Yang: I'm waiting for dpm to have some bugs squashed, maybe when it is enabled by default I'll give it another shot. Running on intel HD4000 graphics atm and the experience is pretty great
[16:45] <cynicist> Ari-Yang: not only stable, performance is vastly improved on a fresh install
[16:45] <flappy> Ari-Yang: no real bugs for me, but having a rather big problem with booting
[16:45] <cynicist> Ari-Yang: very noticeable in the dash on integrated graphics
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> cynicist: I'm on ubuntu 12.10 with kernel 3.12, dpm is just fine. It will be enabled by default in kernel 3.13
[16:45] <scottbuckel> Hello, there's a CVE which says it was fixed and released for Ubuntu 12.04.  However, if I do an apt-get update/upgrade, I still have the old version of this software (gpg) which has a CVE vulnerability out for the version currently released via apt.  Can anyone provide a recommendation?
[16:46] <Pici> scottbuckel: which cve?
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> cynicist: kernel 3.12 is the kernel to use now for dpm or kernel 3.11.7
[16:46] <cynicist> Ari-Yang: not on my hd6870, for some reason I get a lot of stuttering while window dragging
[16:46] <cynicist> Ari-Yang: this is on even kernel 3.12
[16:46] <scottbuckel> Pici: Several, but gnupg for example: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2013/CVE-2013-4242.html  But apt-get still has only 1.4.11
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> cynicist: maybe because you aren't using mesa 10 perhaps?
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> not sure...
[16:47] <floryn90> hi everyone
[16:47] <cynicist> Ari-Yang: I tried with and without oibaf's ppa
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> cynicist: ah, I see..... did you file a bug report?
[16:47] <daftykins> floryn90: hi
[16:47] <scottbuckel> Pici: Any clue as to why apt doesn't get the latest version that says it was released?
[16:48] <floryn90> i deleted /usr/share/applications/ and now i don't know how to regenerate it :(
[16:48] <sl1ck> what's the best cpu-friendly audio player? :)
[16:48] <OerHeks> floryn90, time to reinstall i guess
[16:48] <Ari-Yang> sl1ck: audacious or mpd (music player daemon)
[16:48] <cynicist> Ari-Yang: no, didn't see anything useful in the log files so I decided I would check again later since I saw no other reports on it
[16:48] <Ari-Yang> k
[16:49] <OerHeks> !best | sl1ck
[16:49] <cynicist> Ari-Yang: I'm hoping it's not something specific to my setup, since no one else has mentioned the issue
[16:49] <floryn90> OerHeks: but if i use i live, i can copy that files
[16:49] <floryn90> ??
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> floryn90: to regenerate you need to reinstall every application that was in there
[16:49] <Pici> scottbuckel: The packages were updated, but the version number was not bumped.  See http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/gnupg/gnupg_1.4.11-3ubuntu2.4/changelog
[16:49] <Ari-Yang> cynicist: I think one of the devs has a hd6000 series card and hasn't had any problems like that at all...
[16:49] <Ari-Yang> cynicist: if you want you can state that problem on #radeon channel
[16:50] <floryn90> hitsujiTMO: but if i use i live, i can copy that files
[16:50] <sl1ck> OerHeks: I said best CPU-friendly - I reckon it's pretty specific
[16:50] <cynicist> Ari-Yang: I'll definitely ask, thanks. I'd prefer to be using my discrete card with a functional dpm
[16:50] <Ari-Yang> kk, good luck
[16:50] <scottbuckel> Pici: Ugh! That doesn't make sense now, does it?
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> floryn90: the live cd won't have the same software that you have installed. you can always try
[16:51] <floryn90> i haven't installed anything
[16:51] <floryn90> so with the live i can retrieve my desktop files
[16:51] <Pici> scottbuckel: Well, they typically apply patches instead of bumping version numbers.  There may be more info regarding the CVEs themselves on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/ if you want to see whether a package was actually affected and changed.
[16:52] <OerHeks> sl1ck, still depends on a lot of things, memory, cpu, soundcard
[16:52] <scottbuckel> Pici: So am I just to trust that when something says it was fixed in the CVE on canonical.com, that it's fixed if I'm up to date in apt?
[16:52] <Maleus> anyone available to help me set up a secure sftp server with multiple users jailed to their home folders, but a master user who is not root allowed full access to all folders within the ftp area?
[16:53] <Pici> scottbuckel: You can check the changelogs and the patches linked from that page, but yes.
[16:53] <sl1ck> OerHeks: be that is it may, a cpu-friendly player is a cpu-friendly player nonetheless irrespective of additional hardware.
[16:53] <sl1ck> thanks Ari-Yang !
[16:53] <CatKiller> Maleus: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[16:53] <Maleus> Ive followed that
[16:53] <CatKiller> vsftpd does that
[16:53] <Maleus> sftp works
[16:54] <CatKiller> sftp is something else
[16:54] <Maleus> vsftpd may be what I was needing, Im reading the page on that now, thank you!
[16:54] <CatKiller> Also look at that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd#To_chroot_users
[16:55] <scottbuckel> Pici: Thanks so much for your help!
[16:55] <scottbuckel> Pici: Do they keep the version number the same with a patch number for compatibility purposes or something?
[16:56] <scottbuckel> So really it's version 1.5, but they keep it at 1.4.11 for compatibility maybe?
[16:56] <flappy> Anyone mind helping me with 13.10 not booting correctly? xorg.0.log and dmesg attached: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6416691/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/6416692/
[16:58] <sl1ck> is my desktop system going to benefit RAM upgrade from 4g to 8g DDR3? Will it matter at all?
[16:58] <cynicist> sl1ck: if the memory is a faster speed yes
[16:59] <Nach0z> sl1ck: if you run out of RAM regularly and have to use swap memory, yes
[16:59] <sl1ck> cynicist: current ram is 1333 - the max clock speed.
[16:59] <cynicist> sl1ck: size won't matter unless you aren't already caching everything you can to RAM
[16:59] <sl1ck> no, no caching
[17:00] <sl1ck> i don't even a swap partition ;-)
[17:00] <sl1ck> (have)
[17:00] <cynicist> sl1ck: well linux does caching automatically, so you'll benefit even if you don't do anything in particular
[17:00] <CatKiller> And you never run out of RAM?
[17:00] <CatKiller> Then you don't need more RAM
[17:00] <sl1ck> Catie: not as far as I've observed the system
[17:00] <tero> hi guys i forgot password and username for a ubuntu server pc. I have physical access. What can I do?
[17:01] <sl1ck> sorry CatKiller
[17:01] <zykotick9> !passwords | tero
[17:01] <sl1ck> what is usually the norm for a desktop use - barring specific user needs and what not... ?
[17:02] <CatKiller> sl1ck: I have 2 and it's a bit short but I use a lot of browser tabs etc
[17:02] <CatKiller> 2GB
[17:02] <sl1ck> CatKiller: firefox?
[17:02] <CatKiller> and right now I'm using 450MB of swap
[17:02] <CatKiller> chrome
[17:02] <CatKiller> with 30+ tabs open constantly
[17:02] <sl1ck> i noticed FF is a memory hog
[17:02] <cynicist> sl1ck: Ubuntu really doesn't use that much memory, for regular usage with a lot of tabs/flash video loaded you may hit 1.8GB like I am now
[17:03] <CatKiller> 4GB you're fine
[17:03] <CatKiller> usually
[17:03] <CatKiller> the "upgrade your memory makes your computer faster"
[17:03] <robert123> hi. my mic suddenly didn't work anymore. in pavucontrol, suddenly, the whole input device was not shown anymore. i tried another one... it worked two days ago. i checked alsamixer and pavucontrol volume settings. i did not knowingly make any changes the last two days. i have a backup from a few weeks ago, so i copied ~/.pulse and ~/.config/pulse from the backup, typed "killall pulseaudio; pulseaudio -k" and am still no happier. nothing ch
[17:03] <robert123> anged. any ideas?
[17:03] <CatKiller> is just because 99% of the time, especially years ago when RAM was scarce and expensive
[17:03] <robert123> s/i tried another one/i tried another mic
[17:03] <CatKiller> slowness issues came from intense swapfests
[17:04] <CatKiller> with people using double the swap as RAM
[17:04] <CatKiller> But apart from that no need
[17:04] <cynicist> sl1ck: Firefox doesn't use significantly more than chrome in my experience, it just seems that way because chrome runs in many different processes
[17:05] <sl1ck> cynicist: my FF has sh*t load of addons and other crapware that hogs my memory to about 400-500mb
[17:05] <SuperLag> Ari-Yang: rebooted.
[17:05] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: in terminal run dmesg | grep dpm
[17:05] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: what's the output of it?
[17:05] <cynicist> sl1ck: It can actually use less if you have something like noscript that is preventing lots of additional stuff from running
[17:06] <sl1ck> cynicist: i can't afford to use noscript, it often seriously impedes functions of normal web sites and can't know which sites are affected which ones aren't
[17:07] <sl1ck> stellar addon otherwise
[17:08] <SuperLag> Ari-Yang: no output for it
[17:08] <cynicist> sl1ck: Yeah I blacklist everything by default and just enable what I know isn't a social media tracker or whatever, it does take some time at the start but you do it once for your favorite sites and it speeds up browsing and reduces memory usage significant in addition to the security benefits
[17:08] <sl1ck> my system has ddr3 ram ecc unbuffered, but I don't know if the ECC option is ON. Is there anyway to check if my memory operates ON ECC?
[17:08] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: oh... then I guess dpm is for newer cards.... alright next best thing to do SuperLag is not use Unity
[17:08] <Ari-Yang> !de | SuperLag
[17:08] <Ari-Yang> erm
[17:08] <Ari-Yang> !flavor | SuperLag
[17:09] <lukodiablo_> where i can find IRC for aircrack-ng?
[17:09] <Ari-Yang> !lxde | SuperLag
[17:09] <tirengarfio> Im getting "setfacl: Option -m: Invalid argument near character 3" when I try to run sudo setfacl -R -m u:$APACHEUSER:rwX -m u:`whoami`:rwX app/cache app/logs
[17:09] <daftykins> sl1ck: if you have a consumer system it is highly unlikely you have ECC capability.
[17:10] <daftykins> sl1ck: unless you are referring to an actual server
[17:10] <sl1ck> xeon cpu
[17:10] <daftykins> sl1ck: sure but you need chipset, motherboard and RAM support to provide ECC functionality
[17:11] <SuperLag> Ari-Yang:
[17:11] <toto13> hello
[17:11] <SuperLag> Ari-Yang: Can I install XFCE after the fact, or do I need to reinstall from scratch?
[17:11] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: no not at all
[17:11] <Ari-Yang> !xfce | SuperLag
[17:11] <sl1ck> daftykins: My board supports all three variants: NON ECC Unbuf, ECC Unbuf, and ECC Registered
[17:12] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: you install it, logout, there should be a unity icon in the login box, click it and choose xfce from there and login
[17:12] <daftykins> sl1ck: right, but if the RAM isn't ECC reg then you're out of luck
[17:12] <sl1ck> daftykins: what do you mean exactly?
[17:12] <daftykins> sl1ck: you have to have ECC capable memory modules to enable ECC mode
[17:12] <daftykins> i'm not sure what's so confusing here?
[17:13] <shafox> i have crunchbang installed. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 in one of the partition that i made . but i cant see ubuntu listed in the grub config file. right now i am in crunchbang distro
[17:14] <sl1ck> daftykins: what's the purpose of ECC Unbuff sticks then?
[17:14] <daftykins> sl1ck: i'm not sure on the purpose of buffered vs. not
[17:15] <sl1ck> daftykins: i mean why build a ECC Unbuffed stick, if you ECC is only operational under Regged ram? This is your logic, is it not?
[17:16] <daftykins> sl1ck: it's not my logic no
[17:16] <ki4ro> So, last evening, I was told that this is not the place to discuss upgrading or not upgrading Ubuntu.  Where would that place be?
[17:16] <lukodiablo_> guys it is 8812au compatible with aircrack-ng
[17:16] <daftykins> sl1ck: ECC options are in the BIOS sometimes. you can also confirm status with memtest86+
[17:17] <zteam> Hi guys!
[17:17] <sl1ck> daftykins: memtest86 is a known 'liar'
[17:17] <drupod> hi all has any one succesfully install packet tracer under ubuntu 12.10?
[17:17] <hitsujiTMO> ki4ro: #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:17] <daftykins> sl1ck: if you say so
[17:17] <zteam> any advice on how to troubleshoot black-screen on startup on Ubuntu 13.10, with the Nvidia driver?
[17:18] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | ztane
[17:18] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | zteam
[17:18] <sl1ck> daftykins: memtest86 may detect whether the chip has ECC, but not specifically if the said chip is operational under ECC, is what i meant.
[17:18] <daftykins> yeah last time i used it you had to enable testing under ECC come to think of it
[17:19] <daftykins> but that was a few years ago
[17:20] <ki4ro> hitsujiTMO, Thanks
[17:20] <lukodiablo_> guys... it is RTL8812au compatible with aircrack-ng?
[17:21] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, okey, thanks for the link, do you know if that error can cause Xorg to crash?
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> lukodiablo: every think of checking the compatibility list? http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> zteam is this a fresh install?
[17:23] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, because sometimes my computer boot up flawlessly, and sometimes Xorg just dies off
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: ahh, might be a different issue then. what gpu do you have?
[17:24] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, Nope, it is a upgraded 13.Ubuntu release :-)
[17:24] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: what driver are you using?
[17:25] <zykotick9> lukodiablo_: aircrack isn't supported here.  try #aircrack-ng
[17:25] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, 13.04 suffered from the same issue, I have a Nvidia 8800 GT card, I have runned Ubuntu since Feisty and never had the issues before
[17:26] <lukodiablo_> hitsujiTMO: nothing usedfull.. but thanx
[17:26] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, Nvidia 304.08 for now, I had tried the other drivers as well
[17:27] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, (those avaiable in the repository I mean) I even tried updating my driver throught a third-party repository, but that didn't help me either
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: when it fails and you get a black screen, are you able to access tty1 with <ctrl> + <alt> + <f1> ?
[17:28] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, yes  I'm
[17:28] <FourFire> I am trying to install My currently running operating system (12.04 LTS) onto an external hard drive
[17:28] <Kamuela> Anyone here with gparted experience?
[17:29] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, and then I did so, I tried to kill Xorg but it wasn't alive, and startx didn't worked either.
[17:29] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: ok: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:29] <Ziber> Hey, I've got a bunch of Linux VMs and I want to setup LDAP for SSH authentication. Any good guides, tips, etc?
[17:29] <FourFire> I want to include all my programs (and settings if possible) without having to find and install them all from the distro
[17:29] <cynicist> Kamuela: what's your question?
[17:29] <Kamuela> My disk is /dev/sda1(Windows) /dev/sda2(/) -> /dev/sda5(/home[logical]) and what I'd like to do is shrink sda1 (NTFS), and move everything else up to grow home
[17:30] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, okey :)
[17:30] <FourFire> I have a bootable USB, and .iso file and an old maindrive which has poorly proportioned partitions
[17:30] <FourFire> my os, the bootable and the .iso are all Ubuntu 12.04
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: that should produce 2 urls, paste the urls here
[17:30] <FourFire> can anyone help me do this within an hour?
[17:30] <Danato> can anybody help me install polkit? i'm getting this error
[17:30] <Danato> configure: error: ConsoleKit autoconfigured, but systemd is in use (missing libsystemd-login pkg-config?)
[17:30] <lukodiablo> zykotick9: the #aircrack wont let me
[17:31] <hitsujiTMO> Kamuela: best to shrink sda1 in windows. then use gparted to move sda2
[17:31] <Kamuela> hitsujiTMO, what would allow me to shrink it in windows? does disk manager let me do that?
[17:31] <zykotick9> lukodiablo: it's #aircrack-ng
[17:31] <Pici> Danato: What exactly are you trying to do? Ubuntu doesn't use systemd.
[17:32] <Kamuela> hitsujiTMO, like a windows disk manage or something
[17:32] <SuperLag> Ari-Yang: I'm going to order a new graphics card. ATI/AMD, has to support dual-DVI. Any recommendations?
[17:32] <Ziber> Hey, can someone help me start setting up LDAP for user accounts auth, via ssh?
[17:32] <hitsujiTMO> Kamuela: disk management in administrative tools
[17:32] <cynicist> Kamuela: I would use a livecd, you can't resize that ntfs partition while being booted into it
[17:32] <flappy> hitsujiTMO: mind looking at my xorg log/ dmesg? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6416691/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/6416692/
[17:32] <SuperLag> Ari-Yang: adamk: I'm going to order a new graphics card. ATI/AMD, has to support dual-DVI. Any recommendations?
[17:32] <SuperLag> sorry for the dupe... wanted to add adamk
[17:33] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6416869/
[17:33] <berga> HI! I wanted to ask a question about ubuntu lucid lynx (10.04.4) ... I can't find an official download for a desktop version ubuntu lucid - I can only find the server iso. Any idea what I can do here? I'm gonna use that machine for an offline bitcoin wallet, so I don't want to go online with it in order to install a DE.
[17:33] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6416880/
[17:34] <xangua> berga: you are aware that 10.04 desktop has no support right¿
[17:34] <Danato> Pici: ok so my my battery was not telling me the remaining time, and I read somewhere that I needed to reinstall Upower, which needs me to install polkit
[17:34] <Danato> Pici, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/polkit.html
[17:34] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, thanks for the tip about pastebinit package, didn't know about it unitil now :-)
[17:34] <Pici> Danato: Are you running LFS?
[17:34] <berga> xangua, I was not... but the bitcoinarmory offline bundle is packaged for 10.04 so I thought I'd go with that
[17:35] <lukodiablo> zykotick9: (ErrorNoChannelModes) #aircrack-ng] Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[17:35] <Kamuela> hitsujiTMO, i'll go to windows and see what i can figure out from there, but all in all, good idea. unless cynicist was right and it'll say i can't do it. but i have a feeling windows will do something like restart and make it a boot script
[17:35] <zykotick9> !register | lukodiablo
[17:35] <Danato> Pici, I thought LFS was jst the name of the website, so probably no
[17:35] <cynicist> Kamuela: yeah it may do something like that, I'm just saying it can't do a live resize
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> Kamuela: it will ask you to restart windows to perform the resize
[17:35] <cynicist> Kamuela: it's just simpler to do it all from a livecd
[17:36] <FourFire> gvo: I'm back
[17:36] <Danato> Pici, aaah I see your point now
[17:36] <gvo> FourFire
[17:36] <Kamuela> cynicist, i think hitsujiTMO's thing is that windows will know how to do it more safely than something like gparted. i don't have access to a windows "live cd" although there probably are maintenance ones that can do this
[17:36] <Pici> Danato: You can use apt to reinstall something, but chances are it's not going to make much of a difference.
[17:36] <gvo> FourFire: I see
[17:36] <Kamuela> cynicist, hitsujiTMO in any case, i'll brb i'm gonna see what's up in windoze
[17:36] <Pici> !software  | Danato
[17:37] <FourFire> I have an hour to do this at the moment
[17:37] <gvo> FourFire you might not have enough time.
[17:37] <quellhorst> anyone have any experience setting up VPNs to sell to the public?
[17:37] <FourFire> I can leave my computer running
[17:37] <FourFire> I just have to go to work
[17:37] <cynicist> SuperLag: a used hd 6870 for like $100, they are one of the best supported/performing discrete cards for the open source radeon driver atm
[17:38] <FourFire> if I can set it up to copy over and whatever
[17:38] <gvo> It's a multi step process.  I'm writing it up now.
[17:38] <SuperLag> Ari-Yang: adamk: cynicist: http://amzn.to/1e5VUwA thoughts?
[17:38] <Danato> Pici, it was a try, but I already removed it, and now I have to install some power management tool. Now that doesnt seem to be a right one
[17:39] <FourFire> ok, thanks, keep in mind that I don't really know any terminal commands so I'll need the exact commands to be used
[17:39] <pacy_> FourFire: for me it sounds like, and correct me if iam wrong, it would probably the best if you make a fresh and clean install of your system after you restored your installed progs via "dpkg --get-selections > installed-software" in a file so you can reinstall it out of the list
[17:40] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, it seems that I have an older error log from X here, which have some funny error messages, I upload that one as well
[17:40] <FourFire> pacy_: I don't quite understand, install programs, then clean install?
[17:40] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: better ask for thoughts and opinions for that kind of stuff on #radeon
[17:40] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[17:40] <gdb> FourFire: He's saying to capture your list of installed software for reference, then reinstall and use that list to remember what needs to be additionally installed.
[17:41] <berga> So, being a massive linux newb (I've only dipped my toes as it were, with a few distros) - Could I install the server version of 10.04.4 and then install gnome or whatever from a usb stick?
[17:42] <zykotick9> berga: NOT a good idea.  use something with security support!  please.
[17:42] <berga> argh
[17:42] <FourFire> gdb what exactly do I input in the terminal in order to do that?
[17:42] <pacy_> FourFire: the command "dpkg --get-selections > installed-software" creats a list of installed software which you have to safn. afterwars you can restore it with "dpkg --set-selections < installed-software" the you have to execute the command "dselect"... though your settings would be lost
[17:42] <kostkon> berga: just don't
[17:42] <Ari-Yang> SuperLag: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102933 anyway, again, get advice from #radeon afk
[17:42] <FourFire> settings being lost is fine, I can do that easily
[17:43] <FourFire> finding all my programs again, not as easy
[17:43] <berga> any ideas on what I could do for my offline bitcoinarmory wallet, then? the bundle is for 10.04 =(
[17:43] <FourFire> I have to do what once I've input the first command?
[17:43] <pacy_> FourFire: but you have to go through the list and delete everything which was not installed by you.. which should not be that hard..
[17:44] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, here it comes http://paste.ubuntu.com/6416929/ please check this :-)
[17:44] <FourFire> There doesn't seem to be a visible response in the terminal to the dpgk... command
[17:45] <Danato> Im remaking the question now, what power management works with ubuntu? I need to install one
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: is this a laptop or desktop?
[17:45] <KaoticFire> Does anybody know of any USB wireless NIC's that work out of the box with Ubuntu 12.04
[17:45] <Ari-Yang> Danato: what card do you have?
[17:45] <pacy_> FourFire: Than safe the list somewhere like on an extra stick. make a fresh install with your new partitiontable you would like to have and if its done you can you the second and the third command to resore the programs which remained in the list
[17:45] <Ari-Yang> Danato: and what ubuntu version are you on?
[17:45] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, it's a desktop
[17:45] <FourFire> where is this list?
[17:46] <pacy_> FourFire: you create it in the folder you are you are using the command
[17:46] <Danato> Ari-Yang, Ubuntu 13.10, idk what card are you talking about sorry
[17:46] <FourFire> oh
[17:46] <Ari-Yang> Danato: graphics card
[17:46] <pacy_> FourFire: i mean it is created by the command
[17:47] <FourFire> Oh neat, I found it, thanks
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: is it just the sony tv that you have to connect to the machine or do you have another monitor?
[17:47] <FourFire> I also found the one I made yesterday
[17:47] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, most often it works, but sometimes it fails, seems kinda random to me
[17:47] <gvo> FourFire take a look at http://fayettedigital.com/howtocopyparts.html
[17:47] <Danato> Ari-Yang, its a bit complicated but my laptop comes with 2 cards, jst a sec and ill tell you which ones
[17:47] <Ari-Yang> Danato: lspci | grep VGA
[17:47] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, I have two monitors the Sony TV and my Asus monitor
[17:48] <Ari-Yang> Danato: type that in terminal...
[17:48] <FourFire> gvo can I resize the copy partition later?
[17:48] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: does the crash happen when just the asus is connected?
[17:48] <gvo> Sure, you can remove it and expand the first one.
[17:48] <FourFire> neat, thanks a heap
[17:48] <Danato> Ari-Yang, ah I thought you wanted to know the models
[17:49] <Ari-Yang> Danato: I want to know what graphics cards you have i.e. radeon hd6450 etc.
[17:49] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, well, both monitors is plugged in all the time so far :-)
[17:49] <gvo> My demonstration used a 15 Gb partition but yours will have to be bigger.  I only had an 80 GB drive to play with.
[17:49] <Ari-Yang> Danato: so run that command and tell me
[17:49] <pacy_> gvo: nice work there
[17:50] <Danato> Ari-Yang, Nvidia Geforce GT 630M and HD Graphics 4000
[17:50] <gvo> Fourfire read through it before you do anything.  The dd step will take a while
[17:50] <Danato> Ari-Yang, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[17:50] <Danato> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 635M] (rev a1)
[17:50] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, however the only monitor turned on is the Asus, both then it works and then it not works
[17:51] <gvo> pacy_: It's kind of what he was asking for yesterday, or at least what I understood him to be asking for.
[17:51] <flappy> hah, installing xubuntu-desktop gets me a working DE via manual startx.
[17:51] <Ari-Yang> Danato: well maybe the nvidia proprietary driver has power management... open up Software Sources go to the 'Additional Drivers' tab and see if you can select it, if you can apply the changes and reboot (make sure you set the nvidia card as default) afk good luck
[17:52] <__marco> what is the default terminal emulator in ubuntu?
[17:52] <gvo> FourFire: There may be some typos, especially in the last section that I didn't run.
[17:52] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, I can try to disconnect the Sony TV as a trial to test of course, but, sometimes it takes around 5 reboots for this issue to show up
[17:52] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: can you try without the sony tv connected at all. there is a lot of errors coming from the sony tv (its falsely reporting its supported modes).
[17:53] <cynicist> __marco: gnome-terminal
[17:53] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, okey, BRB :-)
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: also if you do get the black screen, can you then pastebin Xorg.0.log and dmesg again and come back here
[17:53] <gvo> FourFire: Remember to change references to /dev/sdd to whatever your device is.
[17:54] <zykotick9> __marco: gnome-terminal
[17:54] <Danato> Ari-Yang, thanks
[17:54] <FourFire> yes, thanks.
[17:55] <nafur> Hey, I updated to 13.10 yesterday and now my network somehow breaks down (when I hibernate or close the lid... I must test some more on this). The nm-applet just tells me "NetworkManager is not running..." then.
[17:55] <nafur> Are there any known issues about this?
[17:56] <__marco> thanks. Has it always been the default terminal emulator?
[17:56] <arityfn> Does anyone knows why my ubuntu system freezes when I try to play video with vlc or any other multimedia player? I am not using the open source drivers.
[17:56] <zykotick9> __marco: for "ubuntu" i believe so...
[17:56] <__marco> thanks
[17:57] <loa> hello, i have very undetectable problem. I have system which was long to setup, i like crurrent env very much. But sometimes system hangs totally. I can't switch to console or restart X system. So i try setup kernel crash dump. But no crash dumps are prudced. I am stacked.
[17:57] <loa> I don't want to reinstall system (
[18:00] <adamk> arityfn: Sounds like a bug in the video drivers you are using...
[18:00] <KaoticFire> Does anybody know of any USB wireless NIC's that work out of the box with Ubuntu 12.04
[18:00] <arityfn> yeah, but the open source drivers eats my battery life like theres no tomorrow.
[18:01] <adamk> arityfn: Try a different video player and report the lockup to the driver developers.
[18:01] <adamk> arityfn: And, of course, make sure you try the latest version of the driver for your GPU.  You could also try different versions.
[18:03] <nafur> Okay, I just tested, my network crashes as soon as I close my lid...
[18:04] <gvo> kaoticFire: edimax we-7811Un works
[18:05] <PandaMaster> How do I mount a usb thumb drive?
[18:05] <KaoticFire> gva: thanks
[18:05] <gvo> PandaMaster: It should automatically mount.
[18:05] <PandaMaster> how do I mounta  usb mount drive to amount point?
[18:05] <nafur> PandaMaster: from the command line?
[18:05] <zykotick9> PandaMaster: if you plug it in, does Gnome not automount it for you?  or you want manual instructions?
[18:06] <sl1ck> is there any way to remap my keyboard and rearrange some of the functions different keys have?
[18:06] <zykotick9> PandaMaster: do you know the device name?  "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt" would mount it to /mnt, assuming sdb1 was the device/partition
[18:06] <PandaMaster> I'm trying to make a live usb, and UNetbootin says I need to mount my usb thumb drive to a mount point.  How do I do tha?
[18:07] <gvo> PandaMaster: dmesg | tail would give you a clue as to the device name
[18:07] <zykotick9> PandaMaster: the above "should" work for unetbootin
[18:07] <nafur> sl1ck: yes, look for example here: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Xmodmap
[18:07] <gvo> PandaMaster: Is there anything in the drop box in Unetbootin?
[18:08] <PandaMaster> yes
[18:08] <gvo> That's probable it.
[18:08] <sl1ck> nafur: i dont know german ...
[18:08] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, Yes I will :-)
[18:09] <PandaMaster> thanks, it works now.
[18:09] <nitronewbie> I wanna learn Linux
[18:09] <nafur> sl1ck: oh, sorry, my bad. maybe this? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xmodmap
[18:10] <nitronewbie> here no conversation ?
[18:11] <xangua> nitronewbie: here ubuntu support
[18:11] <FourFire> gvo is there anything special about the figure of 0.02 MiB spacing between the start of the disk and the partition?
[18:11] <reisio> nitronewbie: go forth!
[18:12] <porron> hey
[18:12] <gvo> FourFire It didn't work with zero
[18:12] <FourFire> ok
[18:12] <porron> Hey guys, why your smartphone system is called Ubuntu For Android ?
[18:12] <porron> does it need android to run?
[18:12] <nafur> Oh, I just found that my bug was already filed...
[18:12] <reisio> porron: #ubuntu-touch ?
[18:12] <gvo> FourFire: There's a bunch of rules about partition alignment I've never quite figured out.
[18:12] <reisio> porron: pretty sure it does, yes
[18:12] <popey> porron: you probably want #ubuntu-touch
[18:12] <ania________> hi can u help with 12.04 ........i just try to login ....but it keeps coming back to login screen.....can go into desktop
[18:12] <porron> I mean, you raise doubts
[18:13] <reisio> it's not so much that GNU/Linux needs Android to run
[18:13] <nitronewbie> reisio: would you offer me a channel?
[18:13] <porron> because on the "ubuntu touch" page I don't see any reference to android
[18:13] <reisio> it's that manufacturers put in place secure boot problems
[18:13] <reisio> and withold drivers
[18:13] <popey> porron: Ubuntu for Android and Ubuntu Touch are separate things
[18:13] <reisio> nitronewbie: #linux
[18:13] <porron> oh
[18:13] <popey> porron: Ubuntu for Android has not been released yet.
[18:13] <reisio> popey: but do they both run on top of Android
[18:14] <porron> popey: this is why the names raise doubts
[18:14] <nitronewbie> join #linux
[18:14] <porron> they are both operating systems for smartphones?
[18:14] <popey> porron: Ubuntu Touch (Ubuntu for Phones and Tablets) is the one you have probably read about on the wiki
[18:14] <ania________> hi can u help with 12.04 ........i just try to login ....but it keeps coming back to login screen.....can go into desktop
[18:14] <popey> porron: Ubuntu for Android requires Android, Ubuntu Touch does not.
[18:14] <reisio> porron: well android runs on more than phones
[18:14] <hwilde> hello is anyone familiar with .ssh/config using ProxyCommand and nc  to do multiple hops?
[18:14] <sl1ck> thanks nafur
[18:14] <reisio> popey: really?
[18:14] <porron> great popey
[18:14] <popey> reisio: yes, really
[18:14] <porron> and... Ubuntu touch doesn't need android right?
[18:14] <popey> Ubuntu Touch doesn't need android. We use some drivers from Android
[18:14] <porron> I mean *won't* need android
[18:15] <reisio> popey: is there an install guide for any device, for installing to metal?
[18:15] <popey> But that's all.
[18:15] <porron> ok great
[18:15] <porron> and what about ubuntu for android?
[18:15] <popey> reisio: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[18:15] <popey> porron: Ubuntu for Android has not been released. It's still in development.
[18:15] <porron> what is it, what's the difference UbuntuTOuch and WHY has it been done
[18:15] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, Nope, the issue is still there
[18:15] <arun> clefebvre: hello clem are u there?
[18:16] <porron> I mean, you're developing ubuntu touch, why do you need even ubuntu for android
[18:16] <FourFire> oh dear, Ḯm going to PM you gvo, okay?
[18:16] <porron> that's what I don't get
[18:16] <popey> porron: Ubuntu for Android pre-dates Ubuntu Touch
[18:16] <porron> and...
[18:16] <porron> ?
[18:16] <xangua> !touch | porron popey
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: post a fresh set of logs: dmesg | pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:16] <reisio> porron: so touch is actuall a progression, and not an alternative
[18:16] <reisio> not just an* :p
[18:17] <reisio> popey: thanks
[18:17] <popey> np
[18:17] <porron> progression of what?
[18:17] <porron> of android?
[18:17] <editheraven> @ania : it's because the .xAuthority file is not owned by you
[18:17] <popey> Ubuntu for Android has a separate use case than Ubuntu Touch.
[18:17] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417099/
[18:17] <popey> Probably better to continue this in #ubuntu-touch rather than this support channel.
[18:17] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417103/
[18:18] <reisio> popey: duuuude, in this case I might get me a nexus 4
[18:19] <ania________> hi can u help with 12.04 ........i just try to login ....but it keeps coming back to login screen.....can go into desktop
[18:20] <Danato> how do i exit the X server?
[18:20] <Aleksdem2> ctrl+alt+backspace
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: no errors showing. what desktop manager are you using? lightdm?
[18:21] <editheraven> @ania : go to a sepparate tty (ctrl+alt+1) and login with your user. then "sudo bash" and then "chown YOUR_USERNAME:YOUR_USERNAME ~/.xAuthority
[18:21] <editheraven> @ania : sorry, ctrl alt + f1
[18:21] <Greylocks> ania________: type CTRL>ALT>F1 and log in there then type startx see if that helps.
[18:21] <ania________> i am in ctr alt f1
[18:22] <sebastien__> hello, could anyone help me to install ubuntu on my computer from an usd drive please?
[18:22] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, yes, worth mentioning is that I have a SSD disk which didn't run to well with LightDM, was using a workaround in 13.04 but that work-around stopped working after some updates
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> µxse
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> sebastien__  let's hea it
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> hear*
[18:23] <ania________> i can login in terminal everything works well ...but crt alt f7 goes to desktop....where i can see login ....when i login it wont let me see desktop
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: o.O what exactly do you mean. please explain further
[18:23] <arityfn> What driver from the AMD site should I download for this card, Radeon HD 7520G?
[18:23] <sebastien__> thx MonkeyDust :) firts of all, are you french? it could make it easier :p
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> ania________  ctrl alt f1 shows a command prompt, work from there
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> sebastien__  i speak french, but if you want french support, better go to #ubuntu-fr
[18:24] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: also ls -l /var/log/lightdm | pastebinit
[18:24] <ania________> Moneky ...i am using crt alt f1 shell now.....still
[18:25] <sebastien__> ty MonkeyDust, i'm going there :) have a nice evening
[18:25] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, Well I was suffering from this issue http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/ubuntu-lightdm-black-screen-when-using.html
 startx can't work?
[18:26] <Greylocks> ania________: type "start"x on ctrl alt f1 no quotes
[18:26] <Greylocks> ania________:  sorry "startx"
[18:26] <ania________> u dont get me
[18:26] <ania________> startx works perfect....
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> ania________: you know the way you're in ctrl+alt+f1 shell. can you go to ctrl+alt+f1 to get a shell? :P Bute really can you pastebin your ~/.xsession-errors
[18:27] <ania________> i can see desktop login screen see calendar choose ....between ubuntu 2d 3d classic but if you try to login it comes back to that screen dont go further
[18:27] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, but the suggested work-around didn't work for me. I atached this lines to /etc/init/lightdm.conf
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> Aleksdem2: Greylocks startx is NOT going to work when there's already xorg is already running
[18:28] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, stop on runlevel [016]
[18:28] <zteam> respawn
[18:28] <zteam> emits login-session-start
[18:28] <zteam> emits desktop-session-start
[18:28] <zteam> emits desktop-shutdown
[18:28] <FloodBot1> zteam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <ania________> hitjiuTMO where is located xsession-errors
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> ania________  in ctrl alt f1, type    df -h     make sure no partition is 100% full, also get rid of obsolete kernels
[18:29] <ania________> df -h 69% use..
[18:29] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, However I had to remove that workaround, due to to some changes in LightDM (I think)
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> ania________: its in your home. just install pastebinit: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors                       and just paste the url it generates here
[18:30] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, Here is my Lightdm log by the way http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417161/
[18:30] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: ahh yeah I remeber that issue with lightdm and ssds. its actaully fixed in 13.10
[18:31] <Zap-W> does anyone know a guide which shows how to get fonts to look almost as crisp as Microsoft or Mac OSX
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO>  zteam: sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log && sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log && sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log
[18:32] <reisio> Zap-W: fonts look worse in Microsoft Windows
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> Zap-W: try changing your hinting to medium
[18:33] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, yes, they are fixed in Ubuntu 13.04 after some updates, I learned that the hard way, my  workaround screwed up Xorg really hard for me
[18:33] <sa__> i have extracted the blender.tar.bz2  and i can use blender now like other apps.  but how do i like...  fully install it?  As in google-chrome-stable had the .deb package and i installed it by opening with software center.  how do i install blender the same way?  fully
[18:33] <ania________> hi i have xsession-error readed
[18:33] <Zap-W> hitsujiTMO: that's it?
[18:33] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417189/
[18:33] <reisio> ania________: your nick is really tedious
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> ania________: make sure theres a . before xsession-errors
[18:33] <ObrienDave> Zap-W, I like hinting full for LCD screens
[18:34] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417190/
[18:34] <ania________> hitsuik
[18:34] <ania________> i got it
[18:34] <zteam> hitsujiTMO,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417191/
[18:34] <ania________> can i send it to you msg ?
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> zap-w: thats the first step: theres a number of things you can tweak. but try that first
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> ania________: use pastebinit .... pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors
[18:35] <minimalistt> hi folks , why is my 12.04 LTS booting with an orange screen .. i can never see the loading kernel thing ..
[18:35] <minimalistt> i'm guessing it must be something with the graphical terminal setting
[18:35] <zteam> minimalistt, just press Escape, and u should see it
[18:36] <minimalistt> zteam,  ok ..  but I have disabled the splashscreen .. its not the splash screen ..
[18:36] <minimalistt> zteam, lemme check though
[18:37] <dustinspringman> 13.10.... mini displayport connected to Vizio TV... worked on 12.04.. not any more..... odd thing is, I see the Viz 26" in "displays"...and I can pull windows over to it... just get no video...
[18:37] <maujhsn> gvo How are you today!
[18:37] <gvo> maujhsn: Great, how about you?
[18:37] <dustinspringman> only thing I've found that might be an issue is xrandr is showing HDMI1 "connected" instead of DP1 (as it should be DP1 for displayport1)...
[18:37] <minimalistt> zteam,  dosent work :(
[18:38] <maujhsn> gvo, I was doing great until about an hour ago!
[18:38] <dustinspringman> any ideas on what I can do to make xrandr realize I'm not connected to HDMI1 and am actually plugged into DP1 ?
[18:38] <gvo> maujhsn: Sorry
[18:38] <minimalistt> zteam,  its not a major problem .. just bugs me not to see all the booting text\\
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: lots of issues with the greeter. maybe try reinstalling lightdm and greeter. sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[18:39] <jubale> Is eCrypt data from previous session automatically removed upon new session or are a bunch of sessions kept?
[18:39] <maujhsn> gvo, i installed an upgraded version of NVIDIA drivers on my liveUSB, and have now lost the functionality of resizing open or active windows!
[18:40] <minimalistt> i think its something to do with # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[18:40] <minimalistt> #GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[18:40] <ania________> hitsuji unable to get EDID for outut, unable to get EDID for xrandr-lvds, error calling current status with signature on interface
[18:40] <gvo> maujhsn: That's not very nice.
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> ania________: can you pastebin the full .xsession-errors file
[18:40] <minimalistt> zteam,  i think its something to do with # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[18:41] <minimalistt> zteam, in /etgrub.conf
[18:41] <ania________> how to pastebin ;)
[18:41] <gvo> maujhsn: fall back to the previous version.
[18:41] <maujhsn> gvo, So what i did was deactived the new drivers and reinstalled the old drivers but still don't have the old default functionality!
[18:41] <zteam> minimalistt, yes, there should be some setting for it there
[18:41] <ania________> im in ircii no access to desktop, or web
[18:41] <minimalistt> zteam, if i uncomment it though it throws an error
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> ania________: install pastebinit: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors
[18:42] <maujhsn> gvo, Have you ever seen this issue?
[18:42] <zykotick9> minimalistt: i'd guess you mean /etc/default/grub zteam
[18:42] <gvo> maujhsn: No
[18:42] <maujhsn> gvo, Wow!
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> ania________  press ctrl alt F2, can you ping a website?
[18:43] <zteam> zykotick9, yes, it changed since grub 2
[18:43] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, reinstalled, I try to reboot a few times now
[18:43] <utahcon> Is there an RSS feed/site where I can see all packages that are presented for update and details on what is being fixed in them?
[18:43] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, BRB :)
[18:44] <minimalistt> ztane, zykotick9  it could be .. GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"
[18:44] <maujhsn> gvo, I can't believe how NVIDIA jerked me around!
[18:44] <ania________> got it paste.ubuntu.com/6471228
[18:45] <ania________> sorry  paste.ubuntu.com/6417228
[18:45] <gvo> maujhsn: It's not a perfect world.
[18:45] <ania________> sorry  paste.ubuntu.com/6417228
[18:46] <maujhsn> gvo, What the hot-key sequence to make a window active, while putting another window in the backround?
[18:47] <gvo> maujhsn: I don't know.  I haven't used the keys in a long time.
[18:47] <padrino> Guys
[18:47] <padrino> I know this isn't strictly Ubuntu but I'm trying to run Ubuntu on my Laptop
[18:47] <maujhsn> gvo, Ok!
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> padrino  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what goes wrong
[18:48] <padrino> I think my HDD is failed but I want to make sure, so I booted UltimateBootCD. From this list, which do I choose, I assume "HDD"? http://imgur.com/dRW4SRf
[18:48] <padrino> And I'm trying to boot Ubuntu but it won't install to HDD and won't boot so I'm thinking it's a problem with HDD so I want to test it
[18:49] <ania________> maujiTMO  paste.ubuntu.com/6417228
[18:49] <minimalistt> ztane, zykotick9   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"   wont work :|
[18:50] <padrino> You know how I can test it?
[18:50] <dharani> #chromium-os
[18:51] <ania________> can someonehelp with display problem.....system wont show me desktop....only loginscreen in hd, but wont acces to see directors desktop etc
[18:51] <ania________> paste.ubuntu.com/6417228
[18:52] <ania________> dmesg: error interup source  ff000066 is not supported on this hardware return code 1
[18:53] <ania________> error interuptsource ff000066  not suported on hardware reutrn 1
[18:54] <AnthonyUK> is there a way to reset the interfaces file back to default, I didn't realize the change in procedure for a static ip for ubuntu 12.04
[18:54] <AnthonyUK> hence i used a old bookmark for a newer ubuntu
[18:54] <padrino> I'm doing a GSmart thing I think
[18:55] <padrino> idk really, just fucking about
[18:55] <daftykins> AnthonyUK: there's no reason you can't set a static IP in there
[18:55] <AnthonyUK> its all messed up
[18:55] <daftykins> AnthonyUK: can you be more specific?
[18:55] <minimalistt> AnthonyUK, just delete the file and it should be regenerated with defaults i guess..
[18:55] <AnthonyUK> minimalistt: cool i will try that
[18:56] <minimalistt> AnthonyUK, take a backup though .. just in case
[18:56] <AnthonyUK> daftykins: I changed the settings so many times i just ended up wiping it empty
[18:56] <AnthonyUK> but when i wiped it the connection gui wouldn't even come up
[18:56] <daftykins> network-manager?
[18:56] <AnthonyUK> yeh
[18:57] <AnthonyUK> sorry lol
[18:57] <AnthonyUK> brb il try deleting and rebooting
[18:57] <minimalistt> AnthonyUK, incase it fails to regenerate , reconfigure the package .. dpkg reconfigure..
[18:57] <daftykins> AnthonyUK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417284/
[18:58] <daftykins> AnthonyUK: something like that would be a decent starting point if what you do now fails
[18:59] <daftykins> ania________: do you know what graphics hardware you have? is this a laptop/desktop?
[19:00] <zykotick9> AnthonyUK: i don't think delete and rebooting will recreate it!
[19:01] <rostam> Hi accidently I have removed part of a binary pkg installed on my system how can I recover it? thx
[19:01] <reisio> rostam: ask apt-file which package provides it
[19:02] <reisio> re-install that package
[19:02] <daftykins> see i wanted to guess which it was
[19:02] <reisio> :p
[19:03] <zykotick9> minimalistt: fyi, there is no package for interfaces!  "dpkg -S /etc/network/interfaces" it gets put there during the install.
[19:03] <rostam> the pkg is linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic
[19:03] <minimalistt> zykotick9, aww
[19:03] <utusan> rostam: just re-install it
[19:03] <daftykins> rostam: apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic
[19:04] <rostam> thank you
[19:04] <utusan> rostam: but if you removed it by un-installing it won't work re-installing
[19:04] <sa__> how do i install blender, is there a way other than extracting the tar.bz2?  that way doesn't show blender in the launcher or lock to launcher
[19:05] <daftykins> sa__: have you confirmed it's not an available package to install via the software centre / apt?
[19:05] <Nach0z> um
[19:05] <Nach0z> sudo apt-get install blender
[19:05] <Nach0z> :P
[19:06] <rosco_y> Does anyone know how to install libportaudio, I'm trying to compile some sources, and the makefile is complaining that: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lportaudio"
[19:07] <padrino> Can anyone tell me what this means?http://i.imgur.com/fdWm8JP.png
[19:07] <padrino> http://i.imgur.com/fdWm8JP.png
[19:07] <daftykins> rosco_y: apt-cache search lportaudio? :)
[19:07] <sa__> daftykins,  Nach0z the software center offers version 2.62, the tar.bz2 from the website is version 2.69 which works way better, for some reason, 2.62 has bugs and crashes
[19:08] <rosco_y> daftykins: ty, I didn't think of that :(doh)
[19:08] <sa__> any way to have the newest version installed the way software center does?  or can i only ever use the executable if i want to use 2.69
[19:08] <daftykins> sa__: look into finding 2.69 on an APT repo instead perhaps - it'd keep it up to date better than a manual installation
[19:08] <utusan> padrino: hardly legible
[19:08] <sa__> daftykins, is that through synaptic package manager?  or ubuntu software center?
[19:09] <rosco_y> found it, thank you daftykins!
[19:09] <daftykins> sa__: both technically
[19:09] <SamuelSF> I'm having difficulty getting VMware playing running in Ubuntu 13.10.  It tells me that I need Kernel headers 3.8.0-31-generic.  But when I run the terminal command    sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname - r)    it tells me that "Package linux-headers-3.8.0-31 is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[19:09] <daftykins> rosco_y: :)
[19:09] <SamuelSF> *VMware Player
[19:09] <padrino> utusan I'll take another pic
[19:09] <daftykins> padrino: yeah thatimage is terrible - do you suspect this hard disk is faulty?
[19:10] <padrino> daftykins that my initial thoughts, yes
[19:10] <daftykins> SamuelSF: can you paste the single line output of "uname -r" please
[19:10] <utusan> SamuelSF: linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic is the right name
[19:10] <padrino> here's new image, a little better: http://i.imgur.com/xhrq24i.png
[19:10] <daftykins> padrino: could you look at Disk Utility instead? that should report better status
[19:11] <sa__> daftykins, thanks
[19:11] <SamuelSF> You want me to run uname -r and paste the output?
[19:11] <daftykins> padrino: hrmm those errors are a little vague, can you run the standard disk utility or perhaps run smartctl in a terminal?
[19:11] <daftykins> SamuelSF: es
[19:11] <daftykins> *yes
[19:11] <utusan> padrino: you might see/try fsck -f /dev/sd??
[19:12] <Nach0z> sa__: you might be able to find a .deb package
[19:12] <SamuelSF> 3.8.0-31-generic
[19:12] <daftykins> SamuelSF: apt-get install linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic ?
[19:12] <SamuelSF> should I run that as sudo?
[19:12] <daftykins> yes
[19:12] <padrino> On "identity" page it says "Overall Health Self-Assesment Test: PASSED"
[19:13] <padrino> And what do you want me to do to make it more specific as to what the errors are?
[19:13] <daftykins> padrino: run some SMART utilities that i'm familiar with, i don't recognise that one
[19:13] <padrino> daftykins care to name any? First time I've ever used this so not too familiar with it
[19:13] <padrino> I'm using Parted Magic btw
[19:13] <daftykins> padrino: is that a live distro?
[19:14] <SamuelSF>  Package 'linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic' has no installation candidate
[19:14] <padrino> daftykins yeah
[19:14] <daftykins> SamuelSF: can you run "sudo apt-get update" then pastebin "apt-cache search linux-headers-3.8.0" ?
[19:15] <daftykins> padrino: ah - open a terminal and see if 'smartctl' is installed
[19:15] <daftykins> padrino: typically 'smartctl -i /dev/sda'
[19:15] <daftykins> hmm, maybe -a actually
[19:16] <padrino> I have GSmartControl
[19:16] <SamuelSF> daftykins: "apt-cache search linux-headers-3.8.0" does not produce any output
[19:17] <daftykins> SamuelSF: ah - that's not good then. perhaps look up how to install headers for your specific version (ubuntu version)
[19:17] <kiwi_> hi folks, i need to download the 12.04 lts 64 bit boot image . any idea how can speed up the download?
[19:17] <kiwi_> any particular fast mirrors?
[19:17] <kostkon> kiwi_, the one closest to you?
[19:18] <SamuelSF> daftykins, where do I look up my specific version?
[19:18] <densus_88> exec,    what the program name for fix bad sectors
[19:18] <paulus68> kiwi_: use torrents
[19:18] <daftykins> SamuelSF: cat /etc/issue
[19:19] <kiwi_> paulus68, ok .. is there a trustworthy resource for torrents?
[19:19] <OerHeks> !torrent
[19:19] <zykotick9> !torrents
[19:19] <sa__> daftykins, having a hard time finding, how do i find it exactly/?  ;<  sorry
[19:20] <OerHeks> kiwi_, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[19:20] <padrino> If it passed the basic health check on GSmartControl does that mean it could be a problem with the RAM and not the internal HDD? http://i.imgur.com/EFxwKdH.png
[19:20] <kiwi_> OerHeks, thank you
[19:20] <OerHeks> oh thanks zykotick9, never knew the difference torrent <> torrents
[19:20] <zykotick9> OerHeks: ;)
[19:20] <OerHeks> awesome
[19:21] <daftykins> sa__: i googled "ubuntu blender repo" and found this as a choice:
[19:21] <daftykins> 19:19 < OerHeks> kiwi_, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[19:21] <daftykins> oops
[19:21] <daftykins> sa__: i googled "ubuntu blender repo" and found this as a choice: http://askubuntu.com/questions/169542/how-do-i-install-the-latest-blender-3d-builds-from-a-ppa
[19:23] <electrosave> Salve a tutti
[19:23] <Salve> electrosave?
[19:24] <kiwi_> OerHeks, download in progress, thanks again
[19:24] <paulus68> !it|electrosave
[19:24] <OerHeks> kiwi_, have fun
[19:24] <electrosave> ok grazie
[19:24] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, seems to be working better after reinstalling LightDM, I still getting the error, but it seems to happen more rarlerly now
[19:24] <battle> hola tios
[19:24] <paulus68> !es|battle
[19:24] <gartral> hello all, I need a softphone app that I can set a custom ring tone for a specific contact with
[19:24] <Pici> Salve: 'salve' is hello is Italian.
[19:25] <Salve> Dorks
[19:25] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: i'd also try the greeter: dpkg --get-selections | grep greeter                                    that should get you the name of the greeter package
[19:25] <reisio> Salve: ikr
[19:25] <sa__> daftykins, gotcha, was looking in ubuntu software center and synaptic... x-x  thanks a bunch
[19:25] <battle> ok tratare de hablar ingles xD
[19:26] <Salve> reisio: thats why I love ya
[19:26] <battle> some particular topic
[19:26] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, it says unity-greeter, I try to reinstalll that one as well :-)
[19:26] <battle> i'm programmer amateur
[19:27] <battle> renebarbosa you are from?
[19:28] <xangua> battle: the topic here is ubuntu support, do you have an ubuntu support question¿ for chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:29] <battle> thanks xangua
[19:29] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, I will test to reboot some more, later, thank you so much for all your help, I really value it :-)
[19:29] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: np
[19:29] <reisio> Salve: te
[19:29] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, :-)
[19:30] <battle> have question.. how do edit video professional in ubuntu?
[19:30] <reisio> battle: professional?
[19:31] <kiwi_> ubottu, thanks to you, too
[19:31] <kiwi_> nice bot
[19:31] <kiwi_> turing bot
[19:32] <AnthonyUK> minimalistt and zykotick9: unfotunately a deleting the file and rebooting didn't work
[19:32] <newbie_87D> how ! i just downloaded a theme package. how to install  it without using the ubuntu tweak
[19:32] <AnthonyUK> daftykins: cheers for the pastebin it i put it in, then the icon came up and when I selected auto it got the connection back up,
[19:33] <lesshaste> is it really possible that http://nystateofhealth.ny.gov/ is STILL down?!
[19:33] <AnthonyUK> thanks to all for help on getting my ethernet port back up, il make a back up copy next time,
[19:33] <lesshaste> (sorry... OT)
[19:33] <AnthonyUK> now anyone have a better link to doing a static ip by command line?
[19:34] <xangua> newbie_87D: if its a grtk them, extract it in ~/.themes if it's an icon then on ~/.icons
[19:34] <xangua> gtk*
[19:34] <reisio> lesshaste: was up for me when I was there a moment ago
[19:35] <reisio> I don't live in NY, though :p
[19:36] <lesshaste> reisio, really? I mean can you actually follow that link??
[19:36] <lesshaste> reisio, or did you use a different url?
[19:36] <lesshaste> reisio, it has been down for me for weeks
[19:36] <newbie_87D> xangua:  i did ! but when i open the 'apparence " tool  i don't get the them in the themes list to enable em
[19:37] <xangua> newbie_87D: use ubuntu tweak or unity tweak tools to set themes
[19:38] <newbie_87D> xangua: unity tweak?
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> !info unity-tweak-tool
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> !cosmetics
[19:50] <Semajnad> How can you allow a user to log-into SSH after chrooting them?
[19:50] <Semajnad> For me putty just closes when I try to login
[19:51] <Richhh> trying to install lubuntu, optical drive or its connection seems faulty, giving read errors, bios has options for USB boot devices (USB-FDD, USB-ZIP, USB-HDD, USB-CDROM) but doesnt seem to recognise the bootable USB, running out of options, perhaps I could upgrade my bios to support usb booting?
[19:52] <Richhh> (been trying to install lubuntu on this old pc now for about 2 weeks)
[19:53] <ObrienDave> USB-HDD should work
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> Richhh  any error message?
[19:54] <Richhh> no error, tried all ports, just nothing, goes straight to next device
[19:55] <Richhh> ill double check
[19:57] <Richhh> ok with usb-hdd it gives invalid system disc, looks ok from this computer
[19:58] <Richhh> made with UNetbootin
[19:58] <ObrienDave> could be the burn, did you check MD5 on the DL?
[19:58] <Richhh> think so will check again
[20:00] <sventon> hi all, du you know if there are any desktop environment for Ubuntu based on web technologies ? Like FirefoxOS ?
[20:01] <aze_> sventon: joli-os or so
[20:02] <lucenut> Hey guys. I just installed Mint Cinnamon on a Del XPS M1330 laptop. It's friggin sweet! But I can't get the wireless working.
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[20:03] <Richhh> md5sum is correct
[20:03] <Lzrbeak> hi, sorry if this has been asked a million times, but when will the ubuntu phones be coming out? i can't seem to find a real answer.
[20:03] <lucenut> There's a switch on the laptop, when I turn wifi off, and am looking at the Networking utility that turns Airline mode on.
[20:03] <zetheroo> Ubuntu 13.04 here ... updates were in process and it ground to a halt with the updating of Flash ... had to reboot to get the system update tool to close ... now all browsers are acting like flash player is no longer installed!
[20:03] <xangua> !touch | Lzrbeak
[20:03] <Lzrbeak> xangua: thx
[20:03] <ObrienDave> Richhh, try a re-burn
[20:04] <Richhh> its a usb pen drive btw, but ok
[20:05] <ObrienDave> oh yes, you did mention unetbootin. *hangs head*
[20:05] <sventon> asz_: yes, something like joli. I tried that one out but then it turns out it's not open source! so = "Significant Other" or are there a os called so ?
[20:06] <pahlevani> exit
[20:06] <pahlevani> q
[20:06] <zetheroo> installing "flashplugin-installer" comes to a grinding halt at: "flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.327.orig.tar.gz"
[20:06] <zetheroo> it just sits there
[20:07] <Richhh> possible that the usb filesystem is incompatible, its made from windows 8
[20:07] <lonergan> 5
[20:07] <Richhh> ?
[20:07] <ObrienDave> possible, should be fat32 now
[20:08] <ObrienDave> after unetbootin
[20:08] <Semajnad> If I have a user called admntekkit01 in a group called tekkit01 running an executable, how can I make it so any files created by the executable have read and write permissions for the tekkit01 group?
[20:08] <apofis> ubottu: try to find model fo you wifi card and use google ;) Mint should sue same kernel like Ubuntu LTS
[20:09] <Richhh> its fat32 indeed
[20:09] <apofis> lucenut: try to find model fo you wifi card and use google ;) Mint should sue same kernel like Ubuntu LTS ; ubottu: sorry :D
[20:09] <cynicist> Richhh: Use 'df -h' to find the usb drive location (ex /dev/sdX) and then use 'sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/path/to/usb'
[20:09] <Richhh> ok
[20:10] <kiwi_> i'm going to make a 'virgin' install to my new laptop. it's going to be either 12.04 or 13.10 ubuntu-gnome (using gnome classic anyway). that new laptop has a broadcom wireless chipset, btw. what ubuntu version would you suggest?
[20:10] <cynicist> Richhh: I've had trouble with gui disk creators in the past but dd works great
[20:10] <zetheroo> Anyone else having issues with Flash updating?
[20:11] <ObrienDave> never had a problem with unetbootin
[20:11] <debasis> hello
[20:11] <debasis> i am very new to ubuntu
[20:11] <hggdh> cynicist: ideally the USB filesystem should not be mounted, so 'df -h' would not show it (or it should be umounted before using dd)
[20:12] <debasis> Can any one help me..plz
[20:12] <ObrienDave> !ask
[20:12] <paulus68> !help|debasis
[20:12] <Semajnad> If I have a user called admntekkit01 in a group called tekkit01 running an executable, how can I make it so any files created by the executable have read and write permissions for the tekkit01 group?
[20:13] <cynicist> hggdh: true, I forgot to mention the unmounting
[20:13] <debasis> paulus68...what i have to do?
[20:14] <ObrienDave> ask the question
[20:14] <debasis> !help|debasis
[20:14] <cynicist> Richhh: before using dd start the 'disks' utility and unmount anything automounted
[20:15] <cynicist> Richhh: on your usb drive
[20:15] <sventon> I want to be able to build a desktop application directly in node.js but without Gnome or any other desktop environments. Can you give me some hints where to start ?
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: look up setgid and setuid
[20:16] <darkx239> hi im new to xubuntu what should i do first
[20:17] <ObrienDave> what would you like to do?
[20:17] <darkx239> im just looking for some tips
[20:17] <jmgk> debasis:  ask here :)
[20:18] <ObrienDave> darkx239, well, that would cover about a MILLION things, pick one
[20:19] <cynicist> kiwi_: I recommend the latest for the best hardware support
[20:19] <buu> Does apt keep any kind of log file for install/remove commands?
[20:20] <zetheroo> installing "flashplugin-installer" comes to a grinding halt at: "flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.327.orig.tar.gz"
[20:20] <zetheroo> it just sits there
[20:20] <Richhh> cynicist i only have cygwin on this pc, tried dd and got opening '/cygddrive/f': Is a directory
[20:20] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Would that make files created by an executable have read and write permissions on them?
[20:20] <Richhh> cygdrive*
[20:21] <cynicist> Richhh sorry about that, the commands I posted can't be used under windows
[20:21] <kostkon> zetheroo, close the updater, in terminal, give:  sudo apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:22] <reisio> lesshaste: really, wfm
[20:22] <UrielVigilant> I removed and purged gnustep, but when i reboot Ubuntu 13.10 or terminate , it appear on the black screen something refering: disconecting from GNUSTEP... why ?
[20:22] <reisio> but I'm in FL
[20:22] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: permissions will be defined by the umask of the person who executed the executable (unless specifically overwritten by the executable)
[20:22] <lesshaste> reisio, are you in the US?
[20:22] <zetheroo>  kostkon: it's synaptic package manager .. and it's not closing
[20:22] <reisio> lesshaste: yup
[20:22] <kostkon> zetheroo, hmm
[20:22] <zetheroo>  kostkon: the close button is unreponsive
[20:22] <lesshaste> reisio, could it be geolocated? I am not in the US currently
[20:23] <lesshaste> reisio, I get "You don't have permission to access "http://nystateofhealth.ny.gov/" on this server."
[20:23] <zetheroo>  kostkon: should I use system monitor to kill it?
[20:23] <reisio> lesshaste: that's conceivable
[20:23] <reisio> lesshaste: http://isup.me/nystateofhealth.ny.gov
[20:23] <reisio> it would be daft, but it's conceivable
[20:23] <UrielVigilant> 	I removed and purged gnustep, but when i reboot Ubuntu 13.10 or terminate , it appear on the black screen something refering: disconecting from GNUSTEP... why ? What can i do to put all back again
[20:24] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Can i use the base umask command do this
[20:24] <lesshaste> reisio, well it is up in some sense.. what does is.up test?
[20:24] <lesshaste> can everyone here please try http://nystateofhealth.ny.gov/ ? :)
[20:24]  * lesshaste realises this is very cheeky
[20:24] <kostkon> zetheroo, if it is stuck downloading the packages it's safe to kill it, if it has started to install pacakges not so much
[20:24] <zetheroo> seems to just be at the downloading part
[20:24] <zetheroo> killed it
[20:25] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: So when I type umask in my MCMA folder, it says 0022, how can I make it so whenever a file gets created it gets 775 permissions?
[20:25] <DJones> lesshaste: Its somewhat offtopic for #ubuntu but try megaproxy.com and then go to the website
[20:25] <sammi> Hi all. Installing openstack havana release on ubuntu server 13.10. Do you know where I can find proper documentation on this ?
[20:25] <lesshaste> DJones, thanks
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad umask 0002
[20:25] <bgardner> lesshaste: Works here
[20:25] <DJones> lesshaste: Thats just worked for me while without the proxy it didn't
[20:25] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: What does that do?
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: what os are you using?
[20:25] <lesshaste> bgardner, thanks
[20:25] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu 13.10
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: are you running as root right now?
[20:25] <lesshaste> DJones, interesting!!! Which country?
[20:25] <lesshaste> bgardner, which country?
[20:25] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Yes
[20:26] <bgardner> US
[20:26] <lesshaste> bgardner, aha.. it is geolocated to the US!!
[20:26] <lesshaste> that is so stupid
[20:26] <zetheroo> kostkon: this is what's going on in the terminal :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417747/
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: the umask for users other than root is 0002 ... the umask for root is 0022
[20:26] <zetheroo> kostkon: and it will sit there indefinitely ..
[20:26] <lesshaste> wow
[20:27] <fortinux> exit
[20:27] <lesshaste> reisio, oh well :)
[20:27] <fortinux> q
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: if your umask is 0002 when a folder gets created its permissions are 775 and a file get permissions 664
[20:27] <Richhh> trying usb creator instead now
[20:27] <kostkon> zetheroo, try again later, maybe the server is down or smthing.  do a sudo apt-get clean before attempting it again
[20:27] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: So if I do that command in a directory, it will only apply to that directory>?
[20:27] <zetheroo> kostkon: but the download link works perfectly when done through the browser ..
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: which command exactly?
[20:28] <kostkon> zetheroo, hmm
[20:28] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: umask 0002
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: NO
[20:28] <kostkon> zetheroo, ps -A | grep apt  does it give an output of more than 1 line?
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: umask is get for that session
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: set
[20:29] <bgardner> lesshaste: Works here
[20:29] <bgardner> mt, sorry
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: this is one of the many reasons why you should NEVER be running as root
[20:29] <lesshaste> bgardner, right.. you are in the US
[20:29] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: I'm so confused :P So if the executable is ran by a user called admntekkit01 in the group tekkit01, what would I do to make any files created by that executable be in the group tekkit01 and have group r+w permissions?
[20:30] <lesshaste> bgardner, it seems to be geolocated to the US which is crazy
[20:30] <bgardner> lesshaste: Yeah, cat-on-keyboard hit my history for that comment.  Didn't mean to repeat.
[20:30] <lesshaste> bgardner, no problem
[20:30] <zetheroo> kostkon: just one line " 6907 pts/4    00:00:00 apt-get"
[20:31] <kostkon> zetheroo, is that the one already running? kill it and try again maybe
[20:31] <reisio> lesshaste: as we all know, nobody who is a resident of New York state ever leaves _and_ cares about health insurance
[20:31] <zetheroo> kostkon: I am doing apt-get update ...
[20:31] <lesshaste> reisio, a very good point :)
[20:31] <kostkon> zetheroo, ok
[20:31] <lesshaste> reisio, or is ever for example abroad
[20:31] <lesshaste> fdk
[20:31] <lesshaste> FD
[20:32] <lesshaste> reisio, it's just such a weird way to report the blocking too
[20:32] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: you need to chmod g+ws and chown root:tekkit01 the parent folder       then anyone in that group that creates a file in there (or runs an app that creates a file in there with create the file with tekkkit01 group ownership so what anyone else in that group will be able to edit or delete that file
[20:32] <hwilde> hello is anyone familiar with .ssh/config using ProxyCommand and nc  to do multiple hops?
[20:32] <buu> Oh god help, my sound cards have disappared
[20:32] <buu> *disappeared
[20:33] <nisstyre> buu: reboot
[20:33] <buu> nisstyre: I've rebooted 3-4 times now
[20:33] <nisstyre> buu: what did you do that caused this?
[20:33] <zetheroo> apt-get update is verrrrry slow for me ... especially the archive and security repos
[20:33] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: And that counts for files created by an executable ran by a user of the group tekkit01?
[20:33] <buu> nisstyre: I'm really not sure, the only thing that comes to mind is installing the xubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: yes
[20:33] <nisstyre> buu: have you looked at the output of lspci and dmesg?
[20:33] <cynicist> zetheroo: it's not just you, I just started a reinstall of that from the terminal and it's stuck at the same place
[20:34] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: So can you quickly explain wat g+ws means?
[20:34] <zetheroo> cynicist: flash?
[20:34] <Semajnad> what*
[20:34] <buu> nisstyre: lspci shows sound cards..
[20:34] <nisstyre> buu: then you still have them
[20:34] <nisstyre> buu: is your problem with managing them?
[20:34] <buu> nisstyre: My problem is playing sound out of them, heh
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> g+w = group writable. g+s = setgid    read this for an explanation on setgid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[20:35] <buu> nisstyre: aplay -L doesn't show them
[20:35] <cynicist> zetheroo: yeah, although I guess it was busy dling because it just successfully completed
[20:35] <buu> Is the thing
[20:35] <zetheroo> cynicist: ok ... maybe my mirror is rubbish
[20:36] <nisstyre> buu: lsmod | grep ^snd
[20:36] <nisstyre> see if the correct kernel modules are getting loaded
[20:36] <nisstyre> that's why I suggested rebooting btw
[20:36] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO:  I just ran the executable and a new file created only had -rw-r--r--
[20:36] <buu> nisstyre: There's a bunch getting loaded
[20:36] <cynicist> zetheroo: may want to try 'apt-get install flashplugin-installer' and see what the output is
[20:36] <nisstyre> buu: any that correspond to the soundcard you're trying to play sound from?
[20:37] <zetheroo> cynicist:  paste.ubuntu.com/6417747/
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: That's because you are root. you should not be using root! the umask for users other than root is 0002 ... the umask for root is 0022
[20:37] <buu> nisstyre: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417793/
[20:37] <nisstyre> buu: for example on my machine I have an Intel sound card and it loads a bunch of snd_hda modules
[20:37] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: I'm not running the executable as root, it's ran by admntekkit01
[20:37] <buu> nisstyre: I don't know which modules correspond to which card
[20:37] <zetheroo> cynicist: how long did it take to download for you?
[20:38] <cynicist> zetheroo: yeah I had the same, and it seemed to be stuck but suddenly it completed
[20:38] <zetheroo> huh
[20:38] <buu> nisstyre: But if you look at the aplay output, I should have the alsa defaults, the intel card and a bunch of nvidia devices
[20:38] <buu> nisstyre: And I did like an hour ago =]
[20:38] <nisstyre> buu: are you sure the program you're trying to play sound with is configured to use that soundcard?
[20:38] <zetheroo> cynicist: really odd because if you use that link via a browser the download is over in 5 seconds ...
[20:39] <cynicist> zetheroo: my output http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417800/
[20:39] <buu> nisstyre: Dude look at the paste
[20:39] <nisstyre> buu: that doesn't tell me
[20:39] <nisstyre> are you using aplay to play sound?
[20:39] <cynicist> zetheroo: it took maybe 20 seconds
[20:39] <buu> Yes
[20:39] <buu> aplay doesn't produce sound and DOESN'T SEE THE SOUND CARDS.
[20:39] <zetheroo> cynicist: ok, well mine has been sitting there for over a minute for sure
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: how did you run it is asmntekkit01 exactly?
[20:40] <buu> How could I configure anything to use a sound card if aplay doesn't see it?
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: sudo -u ?
[20:40] <zetheroo> can't I just use apt-get to install the downloaded package?
[20:41] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: No, I gave admntekkit01 rwx permissions on the folder and content and ran it with ./MCMA_x86_64
[20:41] <BluesKaj> BoomerBile. what chip does alsamixer show ?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> oops buu
[20:41] <nisstyre> buu: what does aplay -l output? (lowercase l)
[20:41] <kostkon> zetheroo, dpkg -i flashxxx.deb
[20:41] <zetheroo> ok
[20:41] <cynicist> zetheroo: no because it isn't a deb file
[20:41] <kostkon> zetheroo, eer with sudo obviously
[20:41] <zetheroo> oh right
[20:42] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: as root you typed ./MCMA_x86_64 ?
[20:42] <buu> nisstyre: just card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[20:42] <BluesKaj> buu. I'll repeat, what chip does alsamixer show ?
[20:42] <cynicist> zetheroo: you can extract it and copy it to /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[20:42] <zetheroo> here is the full output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417819/
[20:42] <buu> BluesKaj: The only thing alsamixer shows me is a single device for Chip: Nvidia GPU 14 HDMI/DP
[20:42] <buu> (Nvidia HDMI/DP should have 4 devices)
[20:42] <buu> (And the intel device)
[20:43] <nisstyre> buu: you're saying you have two soundcards right?
[20:43] <Richhh> again, invalid system disc
[20:43] <buu> Yes
[20:43] <cynicist> zetheroo: oh that is fixable, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure update-notifier-common'
[20:43] <Semajnad> No hitsujiTMO , as admntekkit01 I did that.
[20:43] <nisstyre> because I only see the nvidia one
[20:43] <nisstyre> ok
[20:43] <cynicist> zetheroo: then try it again
[20:43] <zetheroo> ok
[20:43] <buu> nisstyre: I have onboard intel chip + nvidia hdmi card
[20:43] <zetheroo> hmm
[20:44] <zetheroo> zeth@zeth-ThinkPad-R61:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure update-notifier-common
[20:44] <zetheroo> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: update-notifier-common is broken or not fully installed
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: how did you login as admntekkit01?
[20:44] <buu> And the nvidia card should have 4+ devices available
[20:44] <nisstyre> buu: there could be an issue with the card itself
[20:44] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: through SSH why?
[20:44] <nisstyre> buu: or some kernel module isn't getting loaded
[20:44] <nisstyre> or there's a bug that's preventing it from getting detected
[20:44] <cynicist> zetheroo: try apt-get install --reinstall update-notifier-common
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: if that's the case then MCMA_x86_64 is specifying it's own permissions
[20:45] <BluesKaj> buu. sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel , then reboot
[20:45] <Richhh> guess im just gonna have to exhaust every option on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:45] <nisstyre> BluesKaj: he has that module loaded
[20:45] <nisstyre> BluesKaj: and he rebooted
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: that you don't have control over
[20:45] <Richhh> then call it a day if it still hasnt worked
[20:45] <buu> BluesKaj: Uh how would modprobe + reboot do anything?
[20:45] <zetheroo> E: Internal Error, No file name for update-notifier-common:amd64
[20:45] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Why, MCMA creates files with default permissions -rw-r--r--
[20:45] <nisstyre> buu: you might have a busted soundcard
[20:46] <buu> both cards suddenly busted?
[20:46] <cynicist> zetheroo: if that doesn't work you can fix it in synaptic, Edit > Fix broken packages
[20:46] <{-r-}> apt-get install --reinstall update-notifier-common works it just worked for me
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: because the person who wrote it thought it was a good idea
[20:46] <BluesKaj> load the driver , it's a common intel bug , buu
[20:46] <nisstyre> buu: well you're not connecting your audio equipment to the nvidia one are you?
[20:46] <buu> nisstyre: I am
[20:46] <zetheroo> cynicist: ok will try that
[20:46] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: No I'm saying it creates filers with default permissions, so surely it's not creating the perms itself.
[20:46] <nisstyre> buu: then you might have two separate but related issues
[20:46] <cynicist> zetheroo: I don't know the equivalent apt command unfortunately
[20:46] <fortinux> quit:
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: it can create files with whatever permissions it wants
[20:47] <nisstyre> buu: if the intel card is not getting detected at all then I suspect a hardware problem
[20:47] <BluesKaj> buu. , but you can acarry on trying other things if you wish , it's your call
[20:47] <nisstyre> buu: if the nvidia one IS getting detected then the hardware is probably fine
[20:47] <nisstyre> but there is some other issue preventing sound from working
[20:47] <buu> nisstyre: The nvidia one *isn't* getting properly detected
[20:47] <BluesKaj> too many cooks anyway
[20:47] <nisstyre> buu: by "detected" I mean showing up when you do aplay -l
[20:47] <berga> hey haven't installed ubuntu in a long while and I feel I must praise the new installer (as of 12.04) - really love how streamlined everything is
[20:47] <nisstyre> buu: also you never pasted the output of lspci, does the intel one show up there?
[20:48] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: http://www.bashguru.com/2010/03/creating-user-group-and-shared.html that looks promising
[20:48] <berga> so <2
[20:48] <berga> i spell like someone on valium
[20:48] <berga> so apologies
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: that link is exactly what i told you already
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: from the user admntekkit01 what is the output of: umask
[20:50] <berga> do you have a !rules macro for this channel? don't want to spam irrelevance and get banned?
[20:51] <berga> !rules
[20:51] <buu> nisstyre: Yes they both show up in lspci
[20:51] <berga> thank you
[20:52] <nisstyre> buu: then I'm blaming ALSA and/or aplay
[20:52] <cynicist> berga: yeah it is still the best installer imo, especially after recently trying the new fedora installer and nearly tearing my hair out
[20:52] <berga> cynicist, havent tried fedora since about 2002
[20:52] <berga> i think
[20:53] <berga> as a long time windows user I can't understand why they don't start installing while you're inputting localization settings and username
[20:53] <berga> just makes everything feel faster
[20:53] <nisstyre> buu: I guess purging alsa and reinstalling it might help
[20:54] <nisstyre> buu: btw, is the intel card a surround sound card?
[20:54] <buu> yes
[20:55] <nisstyre> buu: alsa is known to be pretty buggy with surround sound cards, particularly with things like dmix
[20:56] <berga> also love that clean map thing where you select your timezone
[20:56] <BluesKaj> modprobe and reboot should fix the kernel module loading , buu , I'm serious
[20:56] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: 0022
[20:56] <buu> BluesKaj: A) I already tried it B) rebooting wipes out any modprobe
[20:56] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: and you ssh'd in as admntekkit01?
[20:56] <nisstyre> BluesKaj: I don't believe it would, since kernel modules get reloaded on every reboot
[20:57] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: yes
[20:57] <morbidick> Hi, has anyone here experimented with displaylink setups?
[20:58] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: then you've changed the default umask
[20:58] <morbidick> i got the green screen working but from there on nothing else :/
[20:59] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: where did you change it?
[21:00] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: I don't know, how can I change it back?
[21:00] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Is that specific to just that user then?
[21:01] <buu> If I boot ubuntu from a livecd it finds all my sound cards.
[21:01] <buu> Boy that's annoying.
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: depends on where you've changed it. there's about 500 different ways you can change the default umask
[21:01] <nisstyre> buu: which is evidence that your alsa install is the problem
[21:01] <buu> nisstyre: Yeah..
[21:01] <buu> I'm unsure how to reinstall it though?
[21:01] <Danato> hitsujiTMO,  is it possible to restore ubuntu's default drivers?
[21:01] <nisstyre> buu: purge it
[21:02] <nisstyre> that will delete all configs and stuff
[21:02] <nisstyre> and then reinstalling it will create fresh ones
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: drivers for what?
[21:02] <buu> just purge alsa?
[21:02] <nisstyre> yeah
[21:02] <BluesKaj> nisstyre. well, it usualy works, but if the ctrls arent setup correctly and pavucontrol outputs aren't set , then whether the kernel module loads or not is immaterial
[21:02] <buu> Which specific package
[21:02] <nisstyre> I can't remember offhand and I'm on an Arch machine atm
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: for graffics?
[21:03] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, I need my power management back,  and graphics started acting weird, like the transparency of my terminal is gone
[21:04] <cm-t> hi, I am looking for an ubuntu themed template for libreOffice impress ( something more updated than http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/presentation/ubuntu-new-template please)
[21:04] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, maybe it only affects the graphics
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: if its graphics drivers then removing the proprietary driver brings it back to the original
[21:05] <zetheroo> nothing I do is getting this flashplugin-installer installed ...
[21:05] <cynicist> Danato: which driver do you want to restore? Is it for amd/ati graphics?
[21:05] <Danato> cynicist, intel and nvidia
[21:06] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, i ddnt have a proprietary driver till a moment ago, when i installed Nvidia drivers but it ddnt solve anything
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: what way did you install it? through apt-get ?
[21:07] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, i went to nvidia's website and downloaded the driver for my card
[21:07] <cynicist> zetheroo: the problem is update-notifier-common, it's a dependency of flashplugin-installer
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: ahhh ... not sure how to remove that then. there should be instructions with the download
[21:08] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, the problem is that earlier i removed and purged the power management (big mistake) and i cant get it back
[21:09] <cynicist> zetheroo: did you try apt-get -f update-notifier-common?
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections
[21:09] <zetheroo> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[21:09] <Danato> cynicist, E: Invalid operation update-notifier-common
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo: run: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:10] <cynicist> zetheroo: run that :)
[21:11] <zetheroo> so then I do "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and then get stuck at the flashplugin-installer issue again
[21:11] <cm-t> hi, I am looking for an ubuntu themed Template for LibreOffice Impress ( something more updated than http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/presentation/ubuntu-new-template please)
[21:11] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, thats a huge list, the terminal cant show it all
[21:11] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: use pastebinit
[21:12] <cynicist> zetheroo: do sudo apt-get purge update-notifier-common && sudo apt-get install update-notifier-common
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> cm-t  in the libreoffice channel maybe?
[21:12] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, I cant select the text
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: then: dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[21:12] <cm-t> MonkeyDust: i'm trying now
[21:13] <zetheroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417963/
[21:13] <zetheroo> y or n ? :)
[21:13] <cynicist> zetheroo: yes and then reinstall those packages
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo: all you have to do is run: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:14] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, Traceback (most recent call last):
[21:14] <Danato>   File "/usr/bin/pastebinit", line 43, in <module>
[21:14] <Danato>     import configobj
[21:14] <Danato> ImportError: No module named configobj
[21:15] <Engin> what is the recommended web server for ubuntu nowadays? still apache? I need to run PHP on it. apache2-mpm-prefork (default) is vulnerable to fork bombs, apcahe2-mpm-[event|worker] requires PHP CGI at least. So I think it is ugly.
[21:15] <reisio> Engin: nginx
[21:15] <reisio> but PHP isn't recommended :p
[21:15] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: hmm. i guess your setup has gotten into a very mess state
[21:15] <reisio> PHP is just plain vulnerable
[21:15] <Engin> php is shit yes but it is required for now so...
[21:16] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: php isn't vulnerable, just all the apps written for it :P
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> like android ;-)
[21:16] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: it's both
[21:16] <reisio> Engin: cgi is good
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: try this: dpkg --get-selections | grep deinstall
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: should be a much shorter list
[21:18] <kiwi_> are there any reasons for using 32 bit instead 64 bit on recent systems (i3 and above)?
[21:18] <reisio> kiwi_: none
[21:18] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, is there some kind of system restore? I really wouldnt mind, i have nothing important here. The most important thing is the script that you made so i could login with backlight
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> kiwi: lack of ram is the only reason
[21:18] <kiwi_> ok, thx
[21:18] <cynicist> kiwi_: no
[21:19]  * reisio headdesks
[21:19] <kiwi_> reisio, i havent dealt with hardware issues for a long time. i was happy with my t61 thinkpad until today
[21:19]  * BoomerBile helps reisio headdesk a few more times
[21:20] <reisio> BoomerBile: you, friend
[21:20] <BoomerBile> wwe!
[21:20] <BoomerBile> sup reisio
[21:20] <BoomerBile> i'm peeking around another window saw you headdesk
[21:20] <kiwi_> cynicist. ok
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> kiwi_: theres a small extra overhead cost in ram for 64bit over 32bit so if you're extremely tight on ram, 32bit can save you a small amount BUT at a cost of reduced processing speed.
[21:21] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/tiMQfKyi
[21:22] <Kamuela> hitsujiTMO: Ended up reinstalling Windows 8.1, choosing a smaller partition, then live CD gparted to move my linux partitions up and resize, now i'm having grub issues big time
[21:22] <kiwi_> hitsujiTMO, alright ... ram is no prob
[21:22] <reisio> TMI
[21:22] <kiwi_> hitsujiTMO, alright ... 4 gb is far enough, i guess
[21:22] <Kamuela> hitsujiTMO: grub now enters rescue mode, and i can't seem to figure out how to fix it
[21:23] <cynicist> Kamuela: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd
[21:23] <berga> Hmm, question: been installing 12.04 in a virtualbox and everything went really quick and smooth for awhile, but it seems to have stopped at ...maybe 80-85% for awhile.. is this normal?
[21:23] <morbidick> hi, is there any possibility to install xserver-xorg-video-displaylink without compiling it from source in 13.10?
[21:23] <berga> my virtual hdd is 32 gigs
[21:24] <berga> 512 ram
[21:24] <hitsujiTMO> kiwi_: when i said tight i meant like <512MB tight. you're not gonna notice the ram usage difference with 4gb, but you might notice the speed difference so yeah, defo 64bit :p
[21:24] <kiwi_> ok
[21:24] <berga> and its 32 bit
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: try installing gnome-power-manager to get your power manager back
[21:26] <Kamuela> cynicist: my boot directory isn't empty, but there are no mod files in it. just fonts/grubenv/etc
[21:26] <kiwi_> i'm thinking about installing virtualbox for installing twice ubuntu, one for normal tasks and one for 'high security' task.  what performancecost do i have to expect, running two ubuntus simultanously?
[21:26] <berga> I'm no expert but have some extra cores and ram
[21:27] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, thats great! but i guess i should reboot
[21:27] <Kamuela> cynicist: I think I figured it out, I'll brb either with more problems or with news of success
[21:27] <zetheroo> after everything this is still as far as I get:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6418023/
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> Kamuela: boot the live cd and try this https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FBoot-Repair&ei=LUCFUtDcIvKw7Aau84GQBg&usg=AFQjCNF2vJ-XPgGloXrPuZess9mOE6ou2A&bvm=bv.56343320,d.ZGU
[21:27] <Danato> brb
[21:28] <cynicist> Kamuela: you have to update grub since you changed stuff related to your partitions
[21:28] <cynicist> zetheroo: that's good, you no longer have that error at least
[21:29] <zetheroo> cynicist: yeah - but it just sits there ... back to square one
[21:29] <zetheroo> if I do CTRL-C I will get the same error as before ...
[21:30] <cynicist> zetheroo: yeah just give it some time, if it doesn't work you can always install flash manually at least
[21:30] <kiwi_> berga, whats your opinion about virtualbox, overall?
[21:31] <sdfs> Helloo
[21:31] <sdfs> hi
[21:31] <berga> kiwi_, I haven't used it a whole lot to be perfectly honest, but I find it can be useful to sorta plan your future install
[21:32] <berga> for example I'm planning a reinstall of arch, which I stupidly dual booted with no planning the first time
[21:32] <zetheroo> cynicist: how to install manually?
[21:32] <kiwi_> berga, did it slow down your system significantly?
[21:32] <berga> so I had to wipe it because I bloated it
[21:32] <zetheroo> cynicist: I extracted the tar.gz ...
[21:32] <berga> meh not so much but I don't run any servers or anything
[21:33] <kiwi_> ok
[21:33] <berga> kiwi_, just fire it up when I'm in the mood
[21:33] <kiwi_> yep
[21:33] <berga> I'm sort of a casual/lazy nerd
[21:33] <cynicist> zetheroo: I mean all that package does is download that archive and then extract libflashplayer.so and copy it to /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[21:34] <berga> settling for windows since it works but always been really interested in the FOSS scene
[21:34] <berga> plus you can make linux look a lot more sexy than you can winblows
[21:34] <Kamuela> cynicist: still in grub rescue, used windows 8 boot disk to make windows 8 active again and i'm in windows 8. what _could_ be my issues?
[21:35] <berga> not a comp-sci major or anything even close, just a novice enthusiast
[21:35] <kiwi_> berga, do two virtualbox instances share the same ip or can you make the look like two completely different machines to the web?
[21:35] <zetheroo> cynicist: ok I copied it there
[21:36] <berga> kiwi_, that I do not know. I would expect they share an external IP in you have router, but internal IP I cannot say
[21:36] <berga> I only ever ran one instance
[21:36] <kiwi_> ok
[21:36] <cynicist> zetheroo: now you can restart firefox and check about:plugins to see if it found it
[21:36] <Kamuela> cynicist: i've checked all disks for errors in gparted, no problems, my current layout is 1 hard disk, /sda1(win8 reserved) /sda2(win 8 ntfs) /sda3(/) /sda4->/sda5(logical /home)
[21:36] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Thank you for your help, in the end I've decided to just have a master tekkit01 that all managers log into to use SFTP. Quick question, how can I give someone SSH access to their chroot directory? At the moment the putty window just closes when they try to login to SSH
[21:37] <zetheroo> cynicist: nope it doesn't see to have
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: that i don't know i'm afraid
[21:37] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Okay :)
[21:37] <Kamuela> cynicist: i've always had grub on /dev/sda2 and used windows to make active, with the new windows install it created a new partition that bumped everything down by 1 number on the sda list. i think that's where the massive issues are coming in
[21:37] <cynicist> zetheroo: copy the so file to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[21:38] <UrielVigilant> Some one can help me to figure out, what it is GNUstep, and why after remove and purge, on reboot or terminat, ubuntu 13.10 says that " Stopping GNUstep... cant find directory ... xxxxx/xxxx//////////////////////..
[21:39] <Kamuela> cynicist: basically my disk layout changed a lot, and i think grub needs to be properly reinstalled and reconfigured. update-grub and grub-install don't seem to be working out for me i dunno.
[21:39] <zetheroo> cynicist: ok!! It's working in Firefox now :D
[21:39] <cynicist> Kamuela: yep, which is why I linked for you how to update grub
[21:39] <berga> kiwi_, just for perspective I'm running on an old intel dual core with 4G ram and it seems to do the job for a single vbox instance
[21:39] <zetheroo> cynicist: would you know how to get it working in Chromium?
[21:39] <cynicist> zetheroo: hehe the old school way, glad it worked out :)
[21:40] <Kamuela> cynicist: did that guide, still had the same boot rescue. boot rescue means that GRUB is working, right? i mean it's called grub boot. it just doesn't know its config files?
[21:40] <berga> perhaps a tad slow as it's configured to use only one of the cores as well as 512 meg ram
[21:40] <zetheroo> cynicist: nevermind ... it working in Chromium too ;)
[21:40] <zetheroo> cynicist: thanks a million!
[21:40] <cynicist> zetheroo: yeah chromium checks there too
[21:40] <cynicist> zetheroo: np man :)
[21:42] <xalid> hi
[21:42] <Kamuela> cynicist: i'll brb on the live CD
[21:42] <cynicist> Kamuela: I don't understand, what message did you get after doing update-grub?
[21:42] <hylian> what is the easiest and simplest way to transfer files from one ubuntu machine to another via wireless networks? I tried samba, but I am not doing something right... please suggest gui options if at all possible.
[21:42] <UrielVigilant> gnustep!
[21:42] <Kamuela> cynicist: i'll be back in 2 minutes and will get you the message
[21:42] <kiwi_> berga, ok ... will installing virtualbox 'mess up' the whole system or is it easy to return to the non-virtualbox configuration?
[21:43] <cynicist> hylian: install system-config-samba and use that to configure the share
[21:44] <cynicist> hylian: it's graphical
[21:44] <berga> kiwi_, well as my host os is windows I can just use add/remove programs
[21:44] <hylian> cynicist: did that, the other machine will not connect to it no matter what. i used gigolo, maybe i need somehting else?
[21:44] <berga> kiwi_, no idea how to do it on linux tbh
[21:44] <berga> basically its just an app
[21:45] <berga> in which you can run an OS iso you download from ubuntu.com or wherever
[21:45] <berga> like an emulator you could say
[21:45] <kiwi_> berga, the host is windows ... ok thats completely different game
[21:45] <kamuela> cynicist, ok i'm back, would you mind linking that guide one more time? i remember the gist of it but not exactly how to get everything mounted perfectly
[21:45] <cynicist> hylian: can't you just navigate to the share?
[21:45] <berga> kiwi_, ah sorry then, wasted a bit of your time there
[21:46] <kiwi_> gotta go, bye ...
[21:46] <kiwi_> no problem
[21:46] <hylian> cynicist: but how, what app? what cli command??
[21:46] <cynicist> kamuela: sure thing, the key is you need to mount the right partition and chroot into it to make it work
[21:46] <cynicist> kamuela: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd
[21:46] <berga> i'm afk now, any text with my name will be saved, byebye
[21:47] <cynicist> hylian: what OS are you using to browse the share? ubuntu?
[21:47] <em> hylian: ssh and rsync are the best way to transfer files between any two linux oses
[21:48] <hylian> cynicist: both machines are running xubuntu 12.04.3 64 bit
[21:48] <em> hylian: nautilus has a graphical file browser that can connect to servers and copy files
[21:48] <hylian> em: so is rsync a samba app, or another protocol?
[21:48] <cynicist> hylian: just use thunar like nautilus
[21:49] <cynicist> hylian: click browse network and find the share from there
[21:49] <em> rsync is a standalone program, yeah its a command line, but its easer to learn that then to learn how to configure a samba server
[21:49] <kamuela> cynicist, how would i alter this list of steps to simply reinstall grub to /dev/sda3?
[21:49] <hylian> cynicist: it just showed up... wowsa, i have some serious lag. thanks!
[21:49] <cynicist> hylian: np :)
[21:50] <hylian> em: it decided NOW to co-operate... strange...
[21:50] <em> great
[21:50] <Neoromantique> Hi, Guys.
[21:50] <Neoromantique>   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       664
[21:50] <Neoromantique> Should I be worried about it?
[21:50] <Danato> so how can i reset my ubuntu to default? all fresh new again?
[21:51] <reisio> Danato: which aspect?
[21:51] <cynicist> kamuela: where it says 'sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt', change /dev/sda5 to /dev/sda3 (assuming that is your / partition)
[21:51] <Danato> reisio, every packages, settings, etc. I dont care what goes with it
[21:52] <Danato> reisio, oh yeah and drivers
[21:52] <imanc> I'm having major issues with my laptop which is running Ubuntu 12.04 and Cinamon (via a ppm).  All of a sudden it intermittently fails to boot, hanging on the ubuntu load screen. And when I run recovery and try to run fsck it exists with status 1 when attempting to check /home.  I can't see anything in particular in the logs...
[21:52] <reisio> Danato: ah, well the most time conscious way would probably be to just reinstall, but
[21:52] <reisio> Danato: why would you want to?
[21:53] <cynicist> kamuela: then follow every step but ignore the bit that says, 'sudo mount /dev/sdaX /mnt/boot'
[21:53] <em> imanc: sounds like a serious disk error,  boot a live cd and then run fsck
[21:53] <Danato> reisio, I realized that ive been spending too much time fixing little important things that i broke, it takes way more time and effort to get them back than doing an installation
[21:54] <imanc> em: OK, makes sense thanks
[21:54] <Danato> reisio, it wasnt all bad though, i learned a lot hehehe
[21:54] <em> when jack is running then regular apps such as "play foo.wav"  don't work, they freeze.  But when jack is not running then music apps such as ardour don't work.  there must be a solution to this problem.  Ive read that there is a plugin that enables jack to service alsa apps, but how do I install it and will it work with pulseaudio?
[21:54] <em> ive been reading my way through mountains of docs, but have not found the answer yet, a few hints would be really appreciated.
[21:55] <OPTIMUS_> I've managed to mess up my ubuntu 12.04 setup by uninstalling a few packages. I cannot log-in through the GUI anymore, I get "unable to load session 'ubuntu'. I've logged in through the terminal and i'm trying to run apt-get commands to fix the problem, but I can't fetch anything. Any help?
[21:56] <kamuela> cynicist, instead of update-grub can i do grub-install?
[21:56] <jhutchins_wk> Ah well.  Upgrade experiment unsucessful.  Nither going 2G -> 4G of RAM nor an Intel PCI Pro1000 NIC got me any more than 425M down.
[21:56] <jhutchins_wk> And oops, not the channel I thought I was in, sorry.
[21:57] <em> Danato: OPTIMUS_:  one approach to getting a healty system is to copy the same os from another computer or partition.   you must be using a live cd at the time.
[21:57] <cynicist> kamuela: did windows replace grub with its own bootloader?
[21:57] <kamuela> cynicist, no, but i think i may have deleted grub in my previous attempts to fix it... although how can i have done that if i still get grub rescue?
[21:57] <troulouliou_dev> hi i want to have a custom group on a usb device ; i have added this rule to udev but it don't set the correct group : ACTION=="add", BUS=="usb", SYSFS{idVendor}=="1532", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0101", MODE="0660", GROUP="plugdev"
[21:58] <troulouliou_dev> vid/pid are correct
[21:58] <Danato> em, i dont have any other ubuntu around me, a reinstall will do it jst fine
[21:59] <cynicist> kamuela: tell me the output of update-grub
[21:59] <Shinobi> http://askubuntu.com/questions/88523/creating-a-mount-point-if-it-does-not-exist
[21:59] <Hai_Karate> kamuela-  this might help..It has saved me a lot of work. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[21:59] <Shinobi> can someone explain why I don't need to create a mount point for media based filesystems
[21:59] <Shinobi> see link above
[21:59] <Hai_Karate> takes all but 1 minute
[22:00] <OPTIMUS_> I get fetch errors only on 'apt-get update, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[22:00] <kamuela> cynicist, http://pastebin.com/Lr42XqD4
[22:00] <cynicist> kamuela: I mean honestly you can just run 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' and then 'sudo update-grub' after
[22:00] <OPTIMUS_> Also it says I have gnome-session installed, but under GUI options i only have Ubuntu2D
[22:01] <Danato> well ill be back :)
[22:02] <cynicist> kamuela: do this, 'sudo apt-get purge grub grub-pc grub-common && sudo apt-get install grub-common grub-pc'
[22:02] <kamuela> cynicist, from right where i am with chroot?
[22:02] <cynicist> kamuela: yes
[22:02] <Hai_Karate> and then update grub
[22:03] <cynicist> it should do that on its own
[22:04] <kamuela> cynicist, http://pastebin.com/8PXE0eRc
[22:05] <cynicist> kamuela: can you apt-get update?
[22:05] <kamuela> cynicist, i cannot, it is trying to use my xubuntu install's apt i think
[22:06] <cynicist> kamuela: yeah that shouldn't be a problem though
[22:06] <kamuela> it says it can't resolve anything
[22:07] <kamuela> in terms of http
[22:07] <Danato> These phones nowadays...
[22:09] <kamuela> cynicist, i have removed grub while chrooted, is there a way to just install grub onto a mounted disk?
[22:09] <kamuela> cynicist, from non-chroot
[22:10] <tripelb> Is there a memtest to run on my ram inside the system or must I get a livecd to do it?
[22:11] <reisio> tripelb: there should be an option in grub menu
[22:11] <genii> tripelb: It's best to do it from dedicated memtest
[22:11] <Waka_Flocka> can someone help me, my OS cant detect the cpu fan
[22:11] <Waka_Flocka> when i use the "sensors" command i get....
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> acpitz-virtual-0
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> Adapter: Virtual device
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> temp1:        +69.0°C  (crit = +110.0°C)
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> coretemp-isa-0000
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> Adapter: ISA adapter
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> Core 0:       +74.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> jacolby@jacolby-Aspire-4330:~$ sensors
[22:12] <FloodBot1> Waka_Flocka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> o crap sorry
[22:12] <kamuela> cynicist, I'm about to try: udo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda3
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> but http://paste.ubuntu.com/6418226/
[22:13] <Waka_Flocka> the past few days the fan just stopped working but it works in windows
[22:13] <cynicist> kamuela: don't
[22:13] <cynicist> kamuela: you need to install to /dev/sda
[22:13] <troulouliou_dev> hi is it possible to shutdown network-manager as in 13.04 now ?
[22:13] <troulouliou_dev> is seems that it isn't a service anymore
[22:13] <kamuela> cynicist, installing it to the whole disk will break things pretty badly
[22:14] <kamuela> cynicist, i've always installed it to my /boot partition and then used windows to make that partition the active one
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> troulouliou_dev, I can in the shell, look closer I would say.
[22:14] <troulouliou_dev> wilee-nilee, service network-manager stop don't work anymore
[22:14] <cynicist> kamuela: ah, you use the windows bootloader instead?
[22:15] <troulouliou_dev> i only have networking as services
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> Waka_Flocka, Do you have lm-sensors installed
[22:15] <troulouliou_dev> but this one close the session
[22:15] <Waka_Flocka> yes i do
[22:15] <cynicist> troulouliou_dev: sudo stop network-manager
[22:15] <kamuela> cynicist, http://pastebin.com/XJ6N5tQX what does that mean?
[22:15] <Waka_Flocka> ive rescanned several times with sudo sensors-detect too
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> kamuela: you DO NOT install a bootstrap to a partition. you install it to the disk. installing it to a partition can break the filesystem in that partition
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> Waka_Flocka, use nicks if you can, you can tab complete them, did you run the lm-senors cli?
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> Waka_Flocka, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[22:17] <Waka_Flocka> wilee-nilee: yeah it cant even find lm-sensors cli
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> Waka_Flocka, Take a look at the link I mean this, sudo sensors-detect
[22:17] <cynicist> kamuela: you should either install grub to your mbr (/dev/sda not /dev/sda3) and let it automagically handle things or you need to configure your windows bootloader to recognize your ubuntu install
[22:17] <spike_> hi
[22:18] <Waka_Flocka> ah ok
[22:18] <Waka_Flocka> yeah ill put it into another device because the computer is close to overheating again
[22:18] <Waka_Flocka> 85 degrees C
[22:18] <ahoneybun_> my windows 8 gives me access is denied on when I try to access my samba on debian'
[22:19] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, are you prompted to enter credentials ?
[22:19] <cynicist> kamuela: like it is described here, http://askubuntu.com/questions/62440/is-it-possible-to-boot-ubuntu-using-the-windows-bootloader/62442#62442
[22:19] <kamuela> hitsujiTMO, cynicist, had i not broke what was going on by letting windows add another partition, my system would have worked fine. the issue is now grub rescue.
[22:20] <ahoneybun_> troulouliou_dev: troulouliou_dev yes
[22:20] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, and you can access from any other box ?
[22:20] <ahoneybun_> troulouliou_dev: get the same error I believe
[22:20] <Bronze> Hi, I just dropped a hrad drive from 2008 into a desktop box. It has an old version of Ubuntu on it.  Anyone know what the cammand is to re-evaluate the hardware?
[22:20] <cynicist> kamuela: if you let windows manage the boot order then all you did was confuse grub, which means you need to run update-grub from the chrooted ubuntu environment and that's it
[22:21] <Bronze> (on Centos/Redhat this command is kudzu)
[22:21] <Bronze> *command
[22:21] <cynicist> kamuela: I don't know why you insist in installing grub if you don't want it installed to disk and it is already in the ubuntu install
[22:21] <PanicFox> I need help with my ubuntu install!
[22:21] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, create a smb user with the same name as a linux user ex : sudo smbpasswd -a ahoneybun
[22:22] <ahoneybun_> I made one name backups
[22:22] <PanicFox> Im trying to setup a piece of crap computer so i can donate it to a local charity
[22:22] <kamuela> cynicist, i'll install grub to the whole disk. if it fixes everything, sounds good. i guess i don't mind spending the rest of the day doing a fresh install of windows and ubuntu if not
[22:22] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, then add a share in smb.conf or through nautilus/nemo-share
[22:22] <PanicFox> Can anyone help me?
[22:23] <ahoneybun_> troulouliou_dev: post my smb.conf file on pastie?
[22:23] <ahoneybun_> pastebin
[22:23] <cynicist> kamuela: grub doesn't break anything, if you install it you can even configure it to boot windows by default instead of Ubuntu
[22:23] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, no i ll past you a small snipet of conf for a share in pm
[22:23] <kamuela> cynicist, sudo grub-install /dev/sda ?
[22:23] <cynicist> kamuela: well first, did you try update-grub and what was the output?
[22:24] <kamuela> cynicist, update grub from within chroot?
[22:24] <cynicist> kamuela: yes, because if that works there is no need to install it to the disk
[22:24] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, just add this to the end of the smb.conf and set valid users to the user created with smbpasswd
[22:24] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, should work then
[22:25] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, nautiluls share add the same in /var/lib/samba/shares
[22:25] <kamuela> cynicist, it did say it works, it goes through and detects my linux kernels and windows 8. it's what i pastebin'd first. but when i restart... grub rescue
[22:26] <riceandbeans> ubuntu's had a lot of bad pr lately...
[22:27] <ahoneybun_> troulouliou_dev: still the same error
[22:30] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, check then your debian server do not met the minium local sec policies from your win8 box
[22:30] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, in general this is because the lm authentificaiton level is set to ntlmV2 minimum
[22:31] <ahoneybun_> troulouliou_dev: can't get on it with my mothers Ubuntu notebook neither
[22:31] <Danato> Somehow unity never seemed to deal well my the wifi network I use most of the time, thats one of the reasons I installed kde
[22:31] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, ha then it is definitively user issue
[22:31] <troulouliou_dev> did you restart smbd ?
[22:31] <ahoneybun_> yes
[22:32] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, sorry don't know then ;(
[22:32] <ahoneybun_> I had it once
[22:32] <troulouliou_dev> thats all the problem i have faced so far :)
[22:32] <ahoneybun_> idk what messed it up so I did reformat the system
[22:32] <ahoneybun_> troulouliou_dev: thanks anyway
[22:39] <Gorroth> in maximized mode, does anyone know how to move the titlebar buttons to the right? i've alrady done it for windowed buttons using gsettings
[22:40] <joossee> Gorroth, which WM are you using?
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> Gorroth, I think the dconf-editor will do it ubuntu-tweak does I think too.
[22:40] <joossee> wilee-nilee, does that work with unity 2d?
[22:40] <Gorroth> yeah, i think i just found a page talking about dconf-editor.  i heard ubuntu tweak does it too, but i didn't want to use that app since it's not in the repo
[22:40] <Gorroth> joossee: unity on 13.10
[22:40] <ubuntu> chat
[22:41] <joossee> Gorroth, youve tried myuntiy and compiz settings?
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> joossee, I would think so, just a guess though, isn't 2D only in 12.04?
[22:41] <joossee> im on 12.04
[22:41] <Gorroth> joossee: no, didn't know about those
[22:41] <Gorroth> but i'm checking dconf-editor now
[22:41] <joossee> i really just wanna change my titlebar colors... which is apparently impossible
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> Gorroth, Not sure if 12.04 is still gconf-editor either, hehe
[22:42] <joossee> gordonjcp, ccsm is what you wanna try but I do not think you can move them in unity
[22:42] <joossee> Gorroth, ^^
[22:42] <Gorroth> hmm, dconf-editor is just a graphical gsettings :-D
[22:42] <Gorroth> joossee: okay, i'll check it out
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> dconf-editor is gconfs unwed baby
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> that's a joke
[22:44] <ubuntu__> hello?
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> Guest84313, Hi, what's up?
[22:46] <cvtsx> herro
[22:47] <Leopsx> oi
[22:48] <joossee> guys, where does virt keep its logs?
[22:49] <cvtsx> in its folder
[22:49] <joossee> thats helpful
[22:49] <cvtsx> your welcome
[22:49] <cvtsx> lol but idk
[22:49] <cvtsx> sorry ;P
[22:50]  * joossee bashes cvtsx over the head with soggy meatloaf.
[22:50] <shiznix> hi, anyone notice that QT apps. never show up in the dash for 'Recently used' ?
[22:50] <cvtsx> i like meatloaf
[22:50] <cvtsx> but only if there is mashed potatoes
[22:50] <kostkon> shiznix, no
[22:51] <shiznix> this is using Saucy btw
[22:51] <everald> hi. Is there a package that would clean out all temporary/unneeded stuff automatically?
[22:51] <everald> Like doing apt-get autoclean, etc.
[22:51] <Guest90563> hi people, I have serious problem with not being able to login in my ubuntu session
[22:51] <Guest90563> anybody can help me solve this?
[22:51] <everald> My buddy doesn't know all these details, so I need a program that does this automatically.
[22:52] <Guest90563> I can't start my orginal session in graphics mode
[22:52] <Guest90563> why?
[22:52] <joossee> Guest90563, pick a nickname and ill help you
[22:52] <Guest90563> also my nick name is ss_haze
[22:52] <joossee> "/nick joeblow"
[22:53] <Guest90563> I guess quassel doesn't works
[22:53] <joossee> "/nick ss_haze"
[22:53] <joossee> ss_haze, ok more details.. describe whats happeneing from post screen on
[22:53] <ss_haze> ls
[22:53] <ss_haze> what?
[22:53] <anshudhar> hi
[22:54] <ss_haze> it's too fast
[22:54] <anshudhar> adsaf
[22:54] <ss_haze> I just can't login into graphics mode
[22:54] <shiznix> kostkon: i know it used to work, but broke after a Saucy update :(
[22:54] <anshudhar> hey............
[22:54] <jhutchins_wk> xauth corrupted.
[22:54] <joossee> ss_haze, which version are you running?
[22:54] <anshudhar> dggd
[22:54] <ss_haze> I use crtl-alt-f1 and I can login with same password
[22:54] <ciccio> ciao
[22:54] <anshudhar> lol
[22:54] <ciccio> !list
[22:54] <kostkon> shiznix, oh ok
[22:54] <ss_haze> 12.04
[22:54] <anshudhar> rwv
[22:54] <anshudhar> nghjt
[22:54] <anshudhar> vddeb
[22:54] <jhutchins_wk> anshudhar: If you have an ubuntu support question please ask, otherwise please take it elsewhere.
[22:54] <joossee> ss_haze, ok so you get the grub selection screen yes?
[22:55] <anshudhar> sdnc
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> !ops anshudhar
[22:55] <ss_haze> grub selection screen
[22:55] <ss_haze> what?
[22:55] <ikonia> jhutchins_wk: ?
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> ikonia: spam.
[22:55] <Corey> anshudhar: That's about enough nonsense, please. :-)
[22:55] <joossee> ss_haze, the one hat asks what OS you want to load? traditonally a black and white screen with about 5 options...?
[22:55] <anshudhar> what
[22:55] <ikonia> jhutchins_wk: sorry missed it
[22:55] <ss_haze> oh
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> NO.
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> Er, np.
[22:55] <ss_haze> you want me to check
[22:55] <ss_haze> safe mode
[22:55] <anshudhar> fuck
[22:56] <k1l> anshudhar: please keep this channel clear for support. if you got a support issue just ask
[22:56] <ss_haze> or how it's called
[22:56] <joossee> ss_haze, no i just want to know if it comes up or not
[22:56] <Corey> Let us be civil. :-)
[22:56] <joossee> but yeah recovery or safe mode would be an option, with the default being first on the list?
[22:56] <ss_haze> man, I been removing /tmp/X-0.lock without getting anything
[22:57] <ss_haze> I tried htop for killing graphics server
[22:57] <cvtsx> I just want to make sure, a executable wont execute unless if i give it permission to right?
[22:57] <ss_haze> this will take some time
[22:57] <jhutchins_wk> ss_haze: try /etc/init.d/gdm stop instead.
[22:57] <joossee> ss_haze, ya.. i cant help you if youve already started deleting parts of xorg or whatever.
[22:57] <reisio> cvtsx: for the most part
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> cvtsx: If you call it with the interpreter it will.
[22:58] <ss_haze> bash: /etc/init.d/gdm: No such file or directory
[22:58] <ss_haze> you must be kidding me
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> cvtsx: ie bash scriptfile will run scriptfile.
[22:58] <ss_haze> zurb foundation
[22:58] <ss_haze> kill me
[22:58] <cvtsx> ok thx
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> ss_haze: Sorry, I'm on the wrong version, don't have access to a current one.
[22:59] <ss_haze> we are in 2013, why on earth graphics server still causes problems
[22:59] <berga> is it supposed to take hours to install ubuntu in a vm?
[22:59] <ss_haze> or is it just my account
[22:59] <berga> still stuck on ~80%
[22:59] <reisio> berga: stuck is stuck
[22:59] <berga> yeah I guess I'll start over
[22:59] <berga> thanks
[22:59] <jhutchins_wk> ss_haze: It could be the xauthorization system, which can become corrupt if you run GUI programs as root.
[23:00] <joossee> jhutchins_wk, i might suggest he try a simple nomodeset and see what he gets with the vesa driver?
[23:01] <cynicist> ss_haze, that doesn't work anymore, you need to use sudo service gdm stop
[23:02] <cynicist> ss_haze what graphical issues are you having?
[23:03] <unbuntu20093994> kers
[23:03] <unbuntu20093994> hello?
[23:03] <reisio> kers
[23:05] <cynicist> ss_haze oh haha wow, I meant lightdm not gdm
[23:06] <Safety_Dance> s
[23:08] <salah> Hey, I added a PCI wifi card, and it works great. The problem is that I can't use the sound because of constant beep. Any ideas?
[23:09] <ss_haze> still me
[23:09] <ss_haze> can't login
[23:09] <ss_haze> I can't even read 0.5 second long black screen with letters to see what error there is
[23:09] <johnflux_> Hi all.
[23:09] <ss_haze> cause there isn't
[23:09] <jmgk> hey johnflux_
[23:10] <johnflux_> I found a work around for a specific piece of scanner hardware
[23:10] <johnflux_> Is there a suitable place to write this?
[23:10] <ss_haze> help me with graphical environment stuck for one account
[23:10] <johnflux_> do you have some hardware compatibility website or something
[23:10] <cynicist> ss_haze: what happens when you try to boot?
[23:10] <ss_haze> please
[23:10] <ss_haze> cynist what?
[23:10] <LordDeath> what is the easiest way to unsubscribe from all lists? https://lists.ubuntu.com/
[23:10] <ss_haze> nothing
[23:10] <joossee> ss_haze, what kind of card is it and has it ever worked for you?
[23:10] <ss_haze> I get trown out of session
[23:11] <ss_haze> joosee wtf
[23:11] <cynicist> ss_haze: so you boot fine but when you try to login you can't get to a graphical environment?
[23:11] <ss_haze> I see everything right now from f//*** graphical environment, but can't login in session
[23:11] <ss_haze> so please
[23:12] <ss_haze> help me
[23:12] <ss_haze> I can't really understand why
[23:12] <ss_haze> I tried to photo that screen, but it's 0,5 seconds long
[23:12] <ikonia> ss_haze: calm down, tone down the lanauge please, you've used this channel enough to know the rules and know how to get help - be clam, and work with the people trying to help you clearly
[23:12] <ss_haze> IT'S 1 A CLOCK
[23:12] <johnflux_> My scanner works if I plug it into the usb2 port, but not if I plug it into a usb3 port.  Does this make any sense to anyone?
[23:13] <ss_haze> HOW DO I would start quassel which is kde application at first
[23:13] <ss_haze> trought xserver
[23:13] <ss_haze> tty?
[23:14] <ss_haze> I can't get what is wrong
[23:14] <ss_haze> I have free space
[23:14] <ss_haze> 4,5 GB last time checked
[23:14] <johnflux_> ss_haze: your english is impossible to read
[23:15] <ss_haze> maybe cause you can't read
[23:15] <johnflux_> ss_haze: probably, sorry
[23:15] <cynicist> ss_haze: I'm still not sure what issue you are having, you say you are seeing things from a graphical environment but you can't log into a session
[23:15] <berga> I can't read it either
[23:15] <ss_haze> OK, so what's the answer
[23:15] <ikonia> ss_haze: again stop it, your English is not great, it is hard for people to read, which is why I asked you to clam down, please don't try to be rude to people
[23:15] <cynicist> ss_haze: and now you are asking about how to launch quassel from a terminal...
[23:15] <berga> but I'm swedish so that's my excuse
[23:16] <ss_haze> RM /TMP/X-0.lock
[23:16] <ss_haze> NO
[23:16] <ikonia> ss_haze: final request - calm down, just be clear and work with people
[23:16] <ss_haze> I startx from TTY
[23:16] <ss_haze> 1
[23:16] <berga> perhaps if you write a question...
[23:16] <ss_haze> and it doesn't starts graphical environment FROM TTY
[23:16] <ss_haze> ALT-CRTL-F1
[23:17] <berga> maybe you didn't install xorg?
[23:17] <ss_haze> ALSO
[23:17] <kamuela> Well, I'm just reinstall Xubuntu and installing grub to the main disk. wutevz
[23:17] <ss_haze> HOW DO I CAN USE THIS ACCOUNT FROM UNITY
[23:17] <ikonia> ss_haze: start at the beginging - what version of ubuntu have you installed ?
[23:21] <rmah> hello, I just upgraded a server to 13.10 saucy and now my dropbox doesn't work.  I have version 2.4.7 of dropbox (or at least that's what the VERSION file says)
[23:21] <salah> Hi again, I just found out that the constant sound beeps are also higher when I mouse the mouse. And at the same time the CPU jumps to over 40 % usage! This is a i7-3770K with Corsair AX 1200W power supply!
[23:21] <rmah> and there's no http://linux.dropbox.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy distro
[23:21] <rmah> anyone know what's up?
[23:24] <ikonia> rmah: you'd have to ask dropbox - it's their repo
[23:25] <rampageRipper> the Atril thumbnailer heavily burdens the cpu.what can b done?
[23:27] <edoceo> I'm on 10.04 and just did an update, then update-initramfs runs but I get Permission Denied errors on /tmp/mkinitramfs_aRlU7k/ files
[23:28] <edoceo> Does that mean it failed to make a good initramfs?  and I'll fail if I try to reboot?
[23:28] <edoceo> How do I get the upgrade to try this process again?
[23:29] <whoever> edoceo: yes
[23:29] <edoceo> whoever: is that because my /tmp is set noexec,nodev and such?
[23:35] <rampageRipper> what's wrong?
[23:36] <cubahero> anyone know what local firewalls AWS has enabled for ubuntu precise instances? I added security groups to my instance for port 8080 and I can see requests are making it the machine (via tcpdump)
[23:36] <cubahero> i also disabled iptables and ufw....
[23:38] <daftykins> cubahero: disabled how?
[23:38] <cubahero> ufw disable
[23:38] <cubahero> status shows inactive
[23:38] <daftykins> do an "iptables -F" and "iptables -X" anyway
[23:38] <cubahero> yep
[23:39] <whoever> edoceo: i did 't see that you said that but just the word faile in building an image usually will mean you will have a problem booting
[23:39] <cubahero> did that too
[23:39] <daftykins> then iptables -L should be blank
[23:39] <daftykins> past that, check any IPs for typos
[23:39] <edoceo> whoever: it's odd that as root I cannot run this
[23:39] <cubahero> I'm hitting the server
[23:39] <cubahero> but requests aren't being connected to the applicatoin listening on 8080
[23:39] <edoceo> When I try update-initramfs again it still gives that error
[23:40] <whoever> edoceo: intramfs is used in the booting process, you will need to correct the permissions and re build it
[23:40] <edoceo> The directory it makes has nice permissions:  drwxr-xr-x  8 root root 4.0K 2013-11-14 18:38 mkinitramfs_pr4FDX
[23:40] <whoever> edoceo: yes it is
[23:40] <cdsa21> hi
[23:40] <daftykins> cubahero: "netstat -tuln" confirms it definitely is on 8080?
[23:40] <apofis> hi
[23:40] <edoceo> Same perms on the scripts/ directory in there, but none of the files in scripts/ get created :(
[23:40] <whoever> edoceo: don't know why you are rolling your own kernel on ubuntu, that is ususally done on arch or gentoo
[23:41] <cubahero> daftykins: https://gist.github.com/dkullmann/2b1d0c94c662e17a4137
[23:41] <edoceo> I'm not rolling my own, this failure happend after a simple apt-get upgrade
[23:41] <cubahero> daftykins: yep - local telnet works and checked with lsof -i :8080 (similar to netstat)
[23:41] <whoever> edoceo: well most people don't attempt it on ubuntu is a better way to word t
[23:41] <whoever> *it
[23:41] <cubahero> daftykins: (netstat confirmed as well)
[23:41] <daftykins> cubahero: that is very odd - what's the service?
[23:42] <cubahero> daftykins: rethinkdb
[23:42] <whoever> edoceo: anyway if you still need my help, ill be back in a few hours
[23:42] <edoceo> whoever: this isn't a roll-your-own situation, this thing is all stock, the failures happend from apt-get upgrade
[23:42] <daftykins> cubahero: is it bound to the correct interface(s) ?
[23:42] <edoceo> I don't, thanks anyway
[23:42] <cubahero> ubuntu precise machine
[23:42] <cubahero> daftykins: good question
[23:42] <daftykins> to the configurator! :)
[23:42] <cubahero> un momento por favor
[23:43] <whoever> edoceo: that is odd, do you have an image that you can go back to and try to update again or just re run the update
[23:43] <edoceo> update-initramfs script fails, because it cannot write to the tmp directories it creates
[23:43] <cubahero> daftykins: +1 fixed gracias
[23:43] <edoceo> with or without apt-get invoking it
[23:45] <edoceo> If I remount /tmp and disable the noexec,nosuid,nodev options the update-initramfs works.
[23:46] <kiwi_> hi... i'm just installing ubuntu on my new laptop. i used to make seperate partitions for /boot, /home and / .... besides i used to have a swap partition. however, nowadays i think thats not necessary anymore ...  no swap and no seperate /boot partition  ... just / and /home is fine  .... what do you think?
[23:51] <Danato> can anybody answer kiwi_'s question? Im also interested :)
[23:52] <nd456> channel
[23:52] <Danato> nd456, tv
[23:53] <nd456> Can anyone help me getting my wireless card working?
[23:53] <pero> Danato, kiwi_: personally i do partitions for / /boot /home and swap
[23:54] <pero> i like to keep /boot separate just to further compartmentalize it from any fuckups i may do, and keep my machine bootable
[23:54] <berga> still on my ubuntu virtualbox problem... vbox itself recommended at least 8gb vhd but I increased to 32GB so that can't be the problem, right? I also disabled networking before starting the vm (since it's supposed to simulate an offline laptop) but the Copying files process is still taking quite a while to complete. Figured it would be a bit quicker for some reason. Am I just being impatient,
[23:54] <berga> or have I done something wrong? Anyone with experience have any idea? My host OS is windows 7 64bit (the vm is 32bt tho)
[23:54] <edoceo> kiwi_: I still make partitions for /boot, swap, /home / and sometimes /var
[23:54] <kiwi_> pero, the seperate /boot was necessary in the old days because of 1024 cylinder restriction
[23:55] <kiwi_> besides i never experienced any practical advantage
[23:55] <pero> i don't do it because it's necessary, i do it because i feel it prudent to keep my bootloader on a separate parittion
[23:55] <kiwi_> yes
[23:55] <OrIWillChecklogs> In Ubuntu 13.10-Saucy I find that I am using "Gnome Flashback" Desktop Environment .. Where is this package in Launchpad ?? & is it developed apon of late ?
[23:56] <nd456> Can anyone help me getting my wireless card working?
[23:56] <k1l> actually for some encryption setups you need a extra /boot partition
[23:56] <pero> to me, it's a logical distinction/separation of duties and partitions
[23:56] <pero> if boot is separate from the rest of the system, why would i keep it on the same partition
[23:57] <berga> I guess I'll just leave it over night and see what happens
[23:57] <kiwi_> edoceo, thats what i did, except for /var
[23:57] <kiwi_> ok, everybody still uses swap
[23:57] <edoceo> I usually only do /var on servers, so if logs or /var/tmp get full other things will still be OK
[23:58] <k1l> OrIWillChecklogs: yes, gnome continous the old-gnome-look desktop. the name is gnome-panel
[23:58] <edoceo> kiwi_: special case, on my desktop 16G ram I don't to swap - I just let programs crash
[23:58] <kiwi_> then ... i might also stay with my old partition scheme
[23:58] <OrIWillChecklogs> thanx .
[23:58] <Corvaxia> I have a silly question. Since both PS4 and XBox One are now X86 based with processors manufactured by AMD what is the likelihood of an Ubunutu or SteamOS install being developed for the consoles?
[23:59] <Corvaxia> heheh Ubunutu. Ubuntu*
[23:59] <k1l> Corvaxia: those boxed dont allow other linuxes to be installed. so that is not on the ubuntu side to be decided
[23:59] <ikonia> Corvaxia: zero