[04:24] <willie_> anyone home?
[04:24] <holstein> yes.
[04:25] <willie_> G'evenin
[04:25] <willie_> I have a really basic question - it's embarassingly dopey
[04:25] <cfhowlett> yep
[04:25] <cfhowlett> willie_, bring it!
[04:26] <willie_> want to use Ktorrent as default for torrents. Tried using the search option in it, but that seemed either useless or not documented so that I could find an answer.
[04:27] <willie_> I want to know how to set Ktorrent up as my default magnet link grabber
[04:27] <willie_> any help on that? Or a better option?
[04:27] <cfhowlett> willie_, transmission works but still : easy
[04:28] <cfhowlett> willie_, in firefox?
[04:28] <willie_> when I click on a torrent, it asks me to select the application to download it with. I navigate to the use/share folder but can't find the right program file to hook it up to.
[04:29] <willie_> if I were to use transmission which file in the folder would I use?
[04:30] <holstein> i would select ktorrent from there.. if you want to use that
[04:30] <cfhowlett> willie_, I set my content type: magnet to action Use transmission-gtk
[04:31] <willie_> is that set up under the settings manager? (fyi - running 13.10
[04:31] <willie_> (
[04:31] <willie_> )
[04:32] <cfhowlett> willie_, no it's a firefox > preferences setting
[04:32] <holstein> i just download the torrent file, and open it with the torrent application i want to use
[04:33] <cfhowlett> New Dell M3800 workstation looks like it'll be a creative beast!  I asked the project lead on Sputnik to upgrade from the Dell XPS 13 to M3800.  Also begged/pleaded/demanded they fix UbuntuStudio to just work ... out oof the box.  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ycc5r4ftar5bgws/1dNCV20la5
[04:35] <holstein> cfhowlett: ?
[04:36] <holstein> ubuntustudio is "fixed" to do what it is designed to do out of the box
[04:36] <willie_> *snort* well, I am clueless. One sec and let me give it a try.
[04:36] <holstein> the only way to really address what i read that you are asking for is to beg/plead/demand that the vendors "fix" the hardware to be able to use ubuntu/linux
[04:37] <holstein> it should work pretty well there, though.. does is cfhowlett ?
[04:37] <willie_> Am in the right area in Firefox, but Magnet is not listed. Do I need to upgrage my firefox?
[04:37] <cfhowlett> holstein, doesn't come out for another few days.
[04:38] <cfhowlett> holstein, the xps13 is nice, but underpowered and under spec's for creative work - it's  a developer machine.  M3800 seems aimed to compete with the MacBook.
[04:39] <cfhowlett> willie_, I think magnet appears after you select one from a torrent site and you're asked what program you wish to assign to it.
[04:39] <willie_> ok
[04:39] <cfhowlett> wilee-nilee, but the latest firefox is 25 so if you need to update ...
[04:40] <willie_> just checked - I have 25. This is clearly and ID 10 T error
[04:43] <willie_> I appreciate the help!
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> huh, what, ;)
[04:54] <cfhowlett> wilee-nilee, I've NO idea what it means either ...
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> hehe
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> I'm just wiping away the tears after watching the nature show in PBS about parrots, heart wrenching stuff, those peer pretty birds that live so long and are intrinsically wild even when adopted.
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> poor*
[05:13] <willie_> Just dropping in to say thanks again. The problem is solved!
[05:13] <willie_> later
[05:13] <cfhowlett> nice
[10:58] <robford1> Hi all... Want to install US 13.10 tonight. only thing that really irritates me is the fact that there's no compositor in XFCE. Can anyone reccomend a workaround without having to install another window manager?
[13:33] <Siya> Grrr, turning off pulseaudio kills jack (Qjackctl dies)
[13:33] <Siya> I thought I could save a few cpu cycles
[13:40] <zequence> Siya: Sure you aren't just looking to disable the pulse-jack bridge?
[13:40] <zequence> one way to do that is: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio-module-jack
[13:40] <zequence> then, restart pulseaudio: pulseaudio -k
[13:41] <zequence> killing pulseaudio would normally not affect jack at all
[13:50] <Siya> zequence: I figured I wouldn't need pulseaudio as alsaplayer can play mp3 and audio cd's too
[13:50] <Siya> would it save cpu cycles, or do I just turn it on again?
[13:51] <Siya> zequence: how does one disable the (default) bridge?
[13:54] <Siya> Oh crap, changed /etc/pulse/client.conf back and now pulseaudio still won't run properly
[13:55] <zequence> you need to start pulseaudio
[13:55] <zequence> better to disable it in the home folder, like so: echo "autospawn = no" > ~/.pulse
[13:55] <zequence> then: pulseaudio -k
[13:56] <zequence> To start it, just do: pulseaudio --start
[14:00] <robford1> Hi all... Want to install US 13.10 tonight. only thing that really irritates me is the fact that there's no compositor in XFCE. Can anyone reccomend a workaround without having to install another window manager?
[14:06] <aicasn> robford1: still need a compistor for xfce?
[14:07] <zequence> robford1: I think XFCE has its own compositor, actually
[14:07] <aicasn> it does, but it sucks
[14:08] <aicasn> https://github.com/chjj/compton    or use apt-get
[14:08] <aicasn> then steal a good config file via google and you're good to go
[14:09] <aicasn> there are several guides. only takes maybe 10 mins to set up
[14:10] <robford1> Yeah the video tear is a nightmare
[14:11] <robford1> i usually put Kwin on top of it but it impacts load times and takes more resource
[14:11] <robford1> Wondered if there was a light alternative
[14:11] <robford1> Thanks aicasn
[14:11] <robford1> I'll have a look at that :D
[14:11] <aicasn> yw
[14:12] <aicasn> on all the machines i tested, this was _the_ fix for tearing in xfce/lxde
[14:13] <robford1> Being a bit of a noob
[14:13] <robford1> Will this do it? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144468
[14:14] <robford1> Haha, actually that looks complicated
[14:15] <aicasn> http://duncanlock.net/blog/2013/06/07/how-to-switch-to-compton-for-beautiful-tear-free-compositing-in-xfce/
[14:15] <aicasn> ^^ this one's better
[14:15] <robford1> Ahhhh great stuff!!! Thankya!
[14:15] <Siya> zequence: I reverted the autospawn, rebooted and I can see it running (ps ax | grep pulse)
[14:16] <Siya> But When I fire up Qjackctl and press start
[14:16] <Siya> it hangs and comes back with dbus errors
[14:17] <aicasn> robford1: the instructions are good, but the config file on that posting will not give you the best performance
[14:17] <aicasn> robford1:  here's my config for reference; http://pastebin.ca/2476070
[14:18] <robford1> Much appreciated
[14:18] <Siya> zequence: "pulseaudio --start" worked
[14:19] <Siya> never had to manually do that before though...
[14:20] <zequence> Siya: jack1 or jack2?
[14:20] <zequence> jack1 is not able to grab the device from pulseaudio
[14:20] <zequence> else, with jackd2, it should just work
[14:21] <Siya> 13.10 so I think it's jack2
[14:21] <zequence> jackd2 is always default
[14:21] <zequence> But, you can always install jackd1
[14:22] <zequence> if you built any software yourself, and installed jack deps, you might have installed jack1
[14:22] <zequence> Siya: What happens if you do: ps -eo | grep jack
[14:22] <zequence> sorry: ps -eo comm | grep jack
[14:23] <zequence> or jackd -V
[14:23] <Siya> after a reboot w/o starting anything but terminal: nothing
[14:24] <Siya> jackdmp 1.9.10
[14:24] <zequence> try the last command: jackd -V
[14:24] <zequence> ok, so it's jackd2
[14:24] <zequence> do this in the terminal: jackd -d alsa
[14:24] <Siya> got it working
[14:24] <zequence> ok, so jack works
[14:24] <Siya> I renamed .config/pulse
[14:25] <Siya> not it's back to 'normal' after a reboot
[14:25] <Siya> now to not have pulseaudio load connections in jack
[14:25] <zequence> sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio-module-jack
[14:25] <zequence> then, restart pulseaudio: pulseaudio -k
[14:27] <Siya> dependency on ubuntustudio-audio :(
[14:27] <Siya> Isn't it easier to disable the link
[14:33] <zequence> Siya: ubuntustudio-audio is just a meta package
[14:33] <zequence> it's safe to remove it
[14:33] <Siya> kthnx
[14:35] <Siya> editing /etc/pulse/default.pa also works
[14:35] <Siya> uncommented the section
[14:35] <Siya> commented the section about module-jackdbus-detect
[14:38] <zequence> yes, that works too
[15:58] <Siya> any pointers on this? org.freedesktop.dbus.error.serviceunknown the name org.freedesktop.hal
[15:58] <Siya> don't get that error on my 12.04 ubuntu machine but I do on a new install of u-studuo 13.10
[15:59] <holstein> Siya: where are you seeing what exactly?
[16:04] <Siya> holstein: python
[16:04] <holstein> Siya: what *exactly* are you doing? and where is that message?
[16:04] <Siya> trying to find a device by capability
[16:05] <holstein> Siya: pretend i dont do what you are do with python.. and i dont know about your devices.. what are you doing? and where is that error?
[16:05] <holstein> Siya: i see that error online in reference to PPA's.. do you have any ppa's added?
[16:05] <Siya> I'm trying to query hal using python
[16:06] <Siya> nope, plain ubuntu studio
[16:06] <holstein> Siya: looks to me like you need a programming channel
[16:06] <Siya> ah, I may well have in my other machine...
[16:06] <Siya> kthnx
[16:06] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/1217757 is a bug i found referencing the error
[16:11] <Siya> holstein: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy
[16:11] <Siya> HAL was depricated
[16:11]  * Siya facepalms
[16:11] <Siya> that's what I get for developing on 12.04 and running on 13.10
[16:15] <holstein> Siya: sorry.. i was assuming you had changed that.. there's lots of changes to the plumbing going on
[20:19] <studio-user942> hello
[20:19] <AnGeLiNo> i'm installing Ubuntu Studio!
[20:19] <cannot_read> hi, i am new to ubuntu studio., just now i opened the settings manager and changed the fonts
[20:19] <cannot_read> and now I can't read what is wat
[20:20] <cannot_read> any way to reset this?
[20:20] <cannot_read> i am typing with my instinct., soo. y.. help please T_T
[20:20] <holstein> cannot_read: those settings are in the user config.. you can remove the config for those settings
[20:21] <cannot_read> how do i type the command? i could not open the settings manager for some reason also.
[20:21] <cannot_read> it opens and then closes right away
[20:21] <holstein> type what command?
[20:21] <cannot_read> config removal
[20:21] <holstein> anyways.. you can try removing ~/.config/xfce4/ or whatever you find for the fonts in particular
[20:22] <cannot_read> i am litterally seeing blocks as i type.
[20:22] <cannot_read> same for the a other fonts
[20:22] <cannot_read> except the webpaegs
[20:22] <holstein> cannot_read: ok.  you can create another user account.. you can do this in the terminal
[20:22] <holstein> you can do it from a live CD
[20:23] <cannot_read> so if i log n from the guest account and delete the admin account, it will do thie job, you mean?
[20:24] <holstein> cannot_read: the guest account likely wont have permission.. but you can use the temrinal to sudo.. or tty
[20:24] <holstein> !tty
[20:25] <holstein> cannot_read: or a live CD.. or many other ways to remove the config that you have created that is causing the unwanted text size
[20:26] <zequence> cannot_read: Do you have anything important in the home folder right now?
[20:27] <cannot_read> no
[20:27] <holstein> you can blow out all of .config
[20:27] <holstein> or, just rename it
[20:27] <zequence> cannot_read: The command is: rm -R ~/.config
[20:28] <zequence> cannot_read: Login to a tty first. Ctrl+Alt+F1
[20:28] <zequence> username, then password
[20:28] <zequence> I hope you know your username. It's not the same as the full account name
[20:28] <zequence> If you don't know it, you need to reboot into recovery mode. Hold down shift while booting
[20:57] <Imote> Hello all, I've a question :
[20:58] <Imote> I want to know : I've a laptop with a 64 bit CPU (2 core, 4 threads) with only 1 Gb of RAM
[20:58] <Imote> What is the best, 64 or 32 linux ? Thanks
[21:00] <zequence> Imote: with 1GB RAM, 32bit
[21:00] <zequence> Imote: I would install Lubuntu, and add Ubuntu Studio packages
[21:02] <Imote> Zequence: I'm not shure I correctly understand your sentence (remember I'm french ;)). You propose to me to do this or you want do this ?
[21:03] <zequence> Imote: If I were you, I would install Lubuntu, and then add ubuntustudio packages
[21:03] <zequence> Lubuntu 32bit
[21:03] <zequence> Imote: But, if you can add more RAM, that would be the best
[21:04] <zequence> 2GB minimum, I would say. For 64bit, 4GB is not a bad idea
[21:07] <Imote> Zequence: I'm actuelly on linux Mint 32 KDE and it work perfectly ; MATE and Ubuntu Studio (XFCE so) too. No lag, no problem it's perfect :) A distro like Lubuntu is not necessary :)
[21:07] <Imote> Zequence: I was just be shure if a 64 linux can be better
[21:07] <zequence> Imote: 64bit will require a bit more RAM
[21:08] <zequence> IGB works for a lot of things, but not for everything
[21:09] <Imote> Zequence: Yes it's true. With IRC chat and chromium and KDE I actually use 480 Mb
[21:09] <Imote> On this laptop I just go in the web and develop a little bit so it's really perfect :D :D KDE is not too big
[21:10]  * Unit193 has Xfce on 1G, finds it lacking...
[21:11] <Unit193> zequence: Not to single you out, but oh well.  Do you do much audio processing of talks?  I'm interested in getting them to sound better, but lack ideas for it.
[21:35] <em> when jack is running then regular apps such as "play foo.wav"  don't work, they freeze.  But when jack is not running then music apps such as ardour don't work.  there must be a solution to this problem.  Ive read that there is a plugin that enables jack to service alsa apps, but how do I install it and will it work for pulseaudio?
[21:38] <em> ive been reading my way through mountains of docs, but have not found the answer yet, a few hints would be really appreciated.
[21:45] <zequence> em: pulseaudio-module-jack
[21:45] <zequence> install it, restart pulseaudio
[21:45] <zequence> also, make sure to install jackd2 not jackd1
[21:46] <zequence> then, start jack. In pulseaudio controls set output to jack
[21:46] <zequence> all desktop audio will be routed to jack
[21:47] <zequence> to restart pulseaudio, just kill it: pulseaudio -k
[21:52] <wachin> Hi to all UbuntuStudio Developers & Users
[21:54] <zequence> em: Also..
[21:54] <zequence> !proaudio
[21:54] <zequence> wachin: Hi
[21:57] <wachin> zequence  I question if anyone solved the problem with the volume control UbuntuStudio 13.10 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83295394/UbuntuStudio/01%20Volume%20control%20not%20working%20UbuntuStudio%2013.10.png
[21:58] <zequence> Is there a bug report?
[21:59] <zequence> And the bug is not only in Ubuntu Studio. I suppose it is at least affecting anything that has XFCE
[21:59] <em> zequence:  COOL! THANKS!
[22:01] <wachin> Ok
[22:01] <em> dont know the bug number but the broken volume control is in the release notes,  am really surprised that an update has not fixed it by now
[22:08] <wachin> I am happy with UbuntuStudio 13.10, more than UbuntuStudio 12.04, UbuntuStudio 13.04
[22:09] <em> wachin:  I figured out a kludighis good enough work-around for the broken audio control.  Add to Panel a Launcher  and then add to the launcher the PulseAudio Volume Control
[22:10] <wachin> the fault with the volume control is somewhat smaller, are the best features that have
[22:14] <wachin> yes, I thinks somthing like, with xfce4-goodies with addon pulseaudio volume https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83295394/UbuntuStudio/02%20Volume%20control%20not%20working%20US%2013.10%2C%20I%20think%20replace%20with%20volume%20pulseaudio%20addon.png
[22:18] <wachin> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83295394/UbuntuStudio/03%20Volume%20control%20not%20working%20US%2013.10%2C%20I%20think%20replace%20with%20volume%20pulseaudio%20addon.png
[22:19] <em> PulseAudio Volume Control is different from the mixer control, sorry but I only know english, so can't tell you what the name would be.  however the mixer control is probably good enough.
[22:19] <wachin> oh
[22:21] <em> the thing about getting rid of the broken speaker icon is that it actually gets painted on the notifier pane which is shared with the network status and possibly other items.  If you remove it you also lose the other status updates.  Im sure there is a way but it would require a lot of digging to find it, so I just decided to ignore it.  besides, someday an update will probably fix it.  hopefully soon.
[22:22] <wachin> Yes here https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83295394/UbuntuStudio/04%20Volume%20control%20not%20working%20US%2013.10%2C%20create%20volume%20pulseaudio%20launcher.png
[22:23] <wachin> Ok, now I go, God Bless to all
[22:23] <wachin> See you later
[22:23] <em> you are welcome