[05:47] <markey> shadeslayer: Muon backtrace: http://pastie.org/8481793
[07:53] <parad1se_> Riddell: Everything is fine. Iam celebrating the use of samba entry and remember function in dolphin :) Just clicking arround ^^ xD How are you? Results are posted in  Bug #1071453.
[09:18] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:19] <Riddell> bon dia
[09:41] <Riddell> jalcine: thanks for your commit, you set the changelog to saucy so I changed it back to UNRELEASED
[09:45] <markey_work> backlog looks like you guys have been partying last night? :)
[09:46] <Riddell> the wine is oh so cheap in spain
[09:46] <valorie> the story goes: drink good enough whisky, and you get no hangover!
[09:46] <Riddell> as is the cava
[09:47] <Riddell> and then we had to try the whisky to cross cultures
[09:47] <valorie> sounds dangerous
[09:54] <Riddell> parad1se_: can you confirm on the bug that the behaviour is fixed using the packages from precise-proposed?
[10:03] <jalcine> valorie: it's amazing how true that is, lol
[10:04] <jalcine> Riddell: oops, I'll keep that in mind for next time
[10:04] <Riddell> jalcine: no time like the present :)
[10:04] <jalcine> haha sounds like it
[10:04] <parad1se_> Riddell: Already done. I do install the packages from precise-proposed.
[10:05] <parad1se_> Riddell: And got the problem with kde-runtime-dbg. Maybe I should test on a another computer?
[10:05] <Riddell> parad1se_: you've not said on the bug report that it works, only that you tested it
[10:05] <parad1se_> After skipping the kde-runtime-dbg package, everything works fine.
[10:06] <Riddell> parad1se_: lovely, thanks
[10:06] <parad1se_> Riddell: No problem.
[10:06] <Riddell> parad1se_: if you want to investigate you can try an  apt-get install kdelibs5-dbg
[10:07] <parad1se_> Riddell: OK.
[10:09] <Riddell> sigh, muon still needs testing in saucy bug 1250114
[10:31] <markey_work> Riddell: did you move to spain, or just visiting?
[10:33] <Riddell> markey_work: just visiting for now but it is very tempting
[10:34] <Riddell> markey_work: should I move to spain?
[10:34] <markey_work> :)
[10:34] <markey_work> no
[10:34] <markey_work> well I wouldn't
[10:34] <markey_work> too warm in summer
[10:34] <Riddell> that's a feature not a bug
[10:34] <markey_work> also there's the language issue
[10:35] <Riddell> again, a feature, both me and nim quite fancy learning a second language
[10:35] <markey_work> well then
[10:35] <Riddell> you speak perfect english and that makes us feel inferior
[10:35] <markey_work> if nothing keeps you in Scotland, like perhaps family or a partner
[10:35] <markey_work> you could move
[10:36] <Riddell> my girlfriend nim is in scotland but she's very tempted to move too, trouble is she has no job here of course
[10:36] <Riddell> and I'd miss my lovely canoe club
[10:36] <Riddell> not been able to find one here
[10:36] <markey_work> it would require some sort of river
[10:36] <davmor2> Riddell: where is here
[10:37] <markey_work> then there's also the problem that moving is generally a big hassle (and it's costly), and moving between countries even more so
[10:38] <markey_work> usually you spend >= 6 months living in chaos
[10:38] <markey_work> at least that's my experience
[10:42] <Riddell> davmor2: KDE Office in barcelona
[10:44] <davmor2> Riddell: nice, I didn't much care for barcelona itself but just out of the City is amazing.  I found cities all over the world just start to look the same :)
[10:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I added libwebp-dev to kde-runtime and uploaded to ninjas, I noticed a random plugin in kimgio/ directory that doesn't bother to put a notice in the cmake config output
[10:44] <Riddell> davmor2: the same but warmer :)
[10:45] <davmor2> Riddell: indeed
[10:46] <davmor2> Riddell: Certainly warmer than Scotland at any rate :D
[10:48] <jussi> oooh, its a davmor2!
[10:48] <davmor2> jussi: this isn't the davmor2 you are looking for
[10:49] <davmor2> jussi: move along, move along
[10:49]  * jussi eyes davmor2 suspiciously
[11:00] <Riddell> shadeslayer: hmm kde-runtime failed to build, did you add a boost dependency which you didn't put in bzr?
[11:27] <soee> good morning
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:49] <markey_work> shadeslayer: so, did you see my backtrace? or still hungover in bed? :p
[15:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: that would explain why the hell kimgio doesn't build
[15:10] <shadeslayer> markey_work: looking
[15:18] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I haven't started on the fixing FTBFS's yet
[15:19] <shadeslayer> need to go through https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas which has packages that were not uploaded due to mismatch between archive and bzr or due to patches failing to apply etc
[15:20] <shadeslayer> I usually make sure that debuild -S runs fine then upload, then fix any FTBFS's later on ( also makes it easy for people to pick up things since it's usually easier to fix a FTBFS )
[16:35] <shadeslayer> any ideas where usr/bin/contactthemeeditor should go? kaddressbook?
[20:20] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: ping
[21:42] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1247827] plasma-desktop hang. with kernel callstack @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1247827 (by Albert Zeyer)
[22:41] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: pong
[23:19] <soee> hi, when latest rekonq might land in ppa 
[23:19] <soee> how is it called? sru ?
[23:21] <ScottK> !SRU
[23:21] <ScottK> soee: ^^^
[23:22] <ScottK> soee: I wouldn't suggest using it though.  QtWebKit is unmaintained and riddled with security bugs.
[23:23] <soee> ScottK, yup just finish reading post about this release and rekonq future
[23:23] <soee> shat would the default browser for Kubuntu in the next 2-3 releases ?
[23:26] <valorie> soee: we're considering FF
[23:26] <valorie> not sure what other choices we have
[23:28] <ScottK> Firefox is the only browser that's consistently maintained in the archive.  Chromium is somewhat maintained by Canonical people, but not as consistently.
[23:28] <ScottK> I don't think that leaves us much choice.
[23:29] <ScottK> Of course, I've wanted to switch to FF as default for a couple of years now.
[23:31] <shadeslayer> the only blocker being KDE integration IMHO
[23:31] <soee> well when it comes to speed Chrome > FF but this is not an option here
[23:31] <soee> wasnt there some plan to create buiild based on QT ?
[23:31] <shadeslayer> we can just lift patches from SUSE
[23:31] <shadeslayer> soee: heh
[23:31] <shadeslayer> died long ago
[23:32] <soee> :>
[23:32] <shadeslayer> which is what I do for the firefox-kde ppa, but I'm not particularly happy with how ff loads a external binary to do the dirty work
[23:33] <soee> im not into internals so i cant say anything here, but if you pick FF ill be happy :)
[23:33] <soee> but Chrome will stay as my default browser because i need its speed when working on my projects
[23:33] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I doubt Canonical would take the KDE patches into the official FF package without agreement from Mozilla, so I suspect it's a non-starter.
[23:34] <ScottK> soee: Please tell me you meant chromium and not chrome?
[23:34] <shadeslayer> Oh, do they have a agreement for the unity patch?
[23:34] <shadeslayer> because there's a huge patch called unity menubar integration or some such
[23:34] <ScottK> Do they patch FF internally or is it an addon?
[23:34] <ScottK> No idea.
[23:34] <shadeslayer> internally
[23:34] <soee> ScottK, i had some problems with Chromium, a lot of problems 
[23:35] <shadeslayer> I had nightmares after looking at the firefox packaging
[23:35] <ScottK> Yeah, so no KDE integration.
[23:35] <ScottK> Less than ideal, but no real options.
[23:36] <shadeslayer> ScottK: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/25.0+build3-0ubuntu0.13.10.1 < "    - update debian/patches/unity-menubar.patch"
[23:37] <ScottK> Fun.
[23:37]  * valorie uses chromium as well
[23:37] <valorie> it has problems, but doesn't crash and hang all the time
[23:38] <valorie> just....sometimes doesn't work
[23:38] <valorie> like with G+, which I find odd
[23:38]  * yofel uses ff and chromium - whatever works best for the specific site
[23:39] <shadeslayer> ^^
[23:40] <valorie> I use rekonq as my second, konq as my third, and FF only 4th
[23:40] <yofel> firefox is my default, but maps.google.com and jenkins are really slow so I need chromium for that. On the other hand, chromium totally fails with more than 10 tabs and can't show private ppa build logs on launchpad
[23:58] <ScottK> What matters isn't what we use, but what's the best default for our users.
[23:59] <valorie> exactly
[23:59] <valorie> which is why FF seems the best choice
[23:59] <ScottK> Agreed.
[23:59] <yofel> +1