[01:27] <atc3030> hello. I am looking at getting started with ubuntu's maas and juju services. however, I have a question or two. First, when I enlist a node with maas, does the system see the nodes resources (cpu, ram, hdd) as another device or something else?
[01:27] <bigjools> atc3030: it detects those at the commissioning stage
[01:27] <atc3030> in other words, if I type lscpu or top, will it show the cpu's of nodes 1 2 and 3 plus the head server, or still just the head server
[01:28] <bigjools> I'm not sure what you mean here - each node is entirely separate
[01:30] <atc3030> I am not entirely sure what I am after either. I know that makes me sound like a "noob", and while i will admit I am extremely new to the clustering/cloud scene, if i may
[01:30] <atc3030> what I am after/looking to do, is combine the computing power/memory/hdd space of several machines (all 32 bit) (which atm rules out kerrighed) to use it like one machine
[01:31] <atc3030> I would like to at some point later then install a DE on it to use it as my desktop.
[01:31] <bigjools> atc3030: you are looking for an application to do that then, MAAS and Juju are layers below that
[01:31] <atc3030> where i would just login from a laptop or my other desktop and always be on the same system, but have more power then i could carry with me.
[01:32] <atc3030> My thought was to implement it at an os level so that i could (theoretically in my mind) run any application on it
[01:32] <atc3030> and it would be unaware of any difference
[01:33] <bigjools> clouds are about spinning up and down instances on demand, and being able to scale out
[01:33] <atc3030> I was looking at kerrighed but only have 32 bit machines to learn on atm
[01:34] <atc3030> eventually i would like to move on to more powerful machines, but thats when I can afford them. for now its just learning.
[01:34] <atc3030> if i may ask. what would you suggest?
[01:36] <bigjools> I have no idea, sorry :)
[01:36] <atc3030> not a problem. thank you
[01:43] <AskUbuntu> How to add new network card to MAAS distro | http://askubuntu.com/q/377238
[06:19] <atc3030> in messing with maas, how can i setup my cluster controller, which has 2 gigabit ethernet ports, so that one is for internet, and one goes into the switch to manage the nodes
[06:19] <atc3030> so i do not flood my LAN with ips
[06:21] <bigjools> you need the cluster to manage the node side interface and then set up port forwarding from that side to the internet side
[06:22] <atc3030> i am not concerned (atm atleast) about accessing outside the wireless/lan. i should have been more specific.
[06:23] <atc3030> my head server has 2 eth ports
[06:23] <atc3030> eth0 and eth1. I would like eth0 to go to my router and only to the router
[06:23] <atc3030> eth1 to go to the switch which will only be connected to the nodes
[06:24] <atc3030> as i have it installed currently, my head server is both the "Regional" and "cluster" controller
[06:25] <bigjools> you nodes will need to access at least a proxy to install packages
[06:25] <bigjools> your*
[06:26] <bigjools> if you're running the region controller on the same box it will come with squid-deb-proxy that the nodes use by default
[06:27] <atc3030> my only concern was if i were to log in to my router (which isnt an issue so much right now but if i were to apply this later down the road) and see however many nodes I have installed, seeing all of their IP addresses
[06:28] <atc3030> but for now, I will just throw it all onto my router
[06:28] <atc3030> i suppose what I was after could cause a bottle neck effect on a larger scale too
[09:03] <AskUbuntu> What are the steps to deploy OpenStack in a VM using juju? | http://askubuntu.com/q/377353
[11:07] <AskUbuntu> Is it possible to use Juju on MAAS nodes not connected to Internet? | http://askubuntu.com/q/377397
[12:14] <jtv> rvba: review done.
[12:16] <rvba> jtv: Ta, I'll get this landed.
[12:59] <jtv> allenap, feel like doing another small one?  https://code.launchpad.net/~jtv/maas-test/use-retries/+merge/195379
[13:04] <jtv> Or gmb perhaps?
[13:29] <allenap> tych0: \o/
[13:32] <tych0> hah, yep :-)
[13:32] <tych0> thanks for your help
[13:39] <allenap> tych0: Thank you for doing it.
[14:00] <tych0> sure thing :-)
[17:04] <bladernr_> Hey, I'm running maas on precise (from the cloud-archive tools pocket) and ran into a problem.  Just to test that juju and maas are talkign to each other, I did a juju bootstrap.  My node fired up and started installing but the preseed failed because of this error on TTY4: DEBUG: command wget -q http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release -O - | grep -E '^(Suite|Codename):'
[17:04] <bladernr_> WARNING **: mirror does not support the specified release (precise)
[17:39] <allenap> roaksoax: ^ Does that make any sense to you?
[20:05] <pork> Hmmm
[20:05] <pork> So these are the experts?
[20:09] <AskUbuntu> Proper MaaS configuration | http://askubuntu.com/q/377640
[20:28] <pork> The docs really don't make sense
[20:51] <pork> Do the docs have anything outlining the proper network configuration for the maas server?
[20:52] <pork> If not, I would like to find a way to add it
[23:12] <atc3030|ubuntu> I cannot think of any where else to ask this and i cannot think of anything else to search. lol so here it goes
[23:12] <atc3030|ubuntu> what I am after is, I have sitting infront of me several physical machines, each different than the next in its hardware. but all are 32 bit.
[23:13] <atc3030|ubuntu> I am after a way to link them all together in on way or another, atm looking like it will be via ethernet.
[23:13] <atc3030|ubuntu> I was looking to combine their processing power, but I do understand that most applications, both server and desktop based are not multi threaded yet
[23:14] <pork> I like this
[23:14] <atc3030|ubuntu> so, seeing as i cannot really make them seem as one machine where all of the proccessors, ram, hdd's appear to the OS as local, even given it vm an idea
[23:14] <atc3030|ubuntu> I was thinking of another solutiion, but do not know what else to search.
[23:15] <pork> So, you're trying to build a Chinese superconputer
[23:15] <pork> I approve
[23:16] <pork> But from my understanding, MaaS is meant for provisioning physical serverds
[23:16] <atc3030|ubuntu> Why couldnt I have one head machine running the OS, but every other machine listed as a node, much like MAAS already does. When i launch application xyz, instead of trying to balance it accross multiple remote cpus, it just sends it to the remote cpu
[23:16] <atc3030|ubuntu> I know that, but I have no idea where else to ask it tbh
[23:16] <pork> Same
[23:16] <atc3030|ubuntu> I was in here last night messing with maas
[23:16] <atc3030|ubuntu> lol
[23:16] <pork> Did you ever get it working?
[23:16] <atc3030|ubuntu> my plan was to use maas to provision all the nodes, then run a vm and try to acheive this.
[23:17] <pork> Were you able to provision the nodes?
[23:17] <atc3030|ubuntu> however, i found out that the vm software in this case would only utilize one node at a time for the vm
[23:17] <atc3030|ubuntu> to a degree
[23:17] <pork> Right
[23:17] <atc3030|ubuntu> The issue i was having was due to the machines i am using themselves
[23:17] <atc3030|ubuntu> i.e. they dont support WOL nicely
[23:18] <pork> Well, I don't think there exists an OS that is meant to span multiple machines, VM or physical
[23:18] <atc3030|ubuntu> i saw and started to look at parallel virtual machine, but the last updated info i can find is from 1995
[23:18] <atc3030|ubuntu> lol
[23:19] <atc3030|ubuntu> to date myself, i was born in 93
[23:19] <atc3030|ubuntu> lol
[23:19] <atc3030|ubuntu> :)
[23:19] <pork> IHahah
[23:19] <pork> Yeah, well the reason I'm here is because the documentation sucks
[23:19] <pork> was homing to find someone who actually got MaaS running
[23:19] <pork> on nodes
[23:20] <pork> doing something interesting (web server, sql server)
[23:20] <atc3030|ubuntu> I will offer what I can, but i will be honest. I only got 2 nodes online last night so i cant promise too much help
[23:20] <atc3030|ubuntu> lol
[23:20] <atc3030|ubuntu> but ill help if i can
[23:20] <pork> But in your case, if you're trying to DEVELOP an application that uses multiple machines resources, then hadoop is for you
[23:21] <pork> This is my thread on Ask: http://askubuntu.com/questions/377640/proper-maas-configuration
[23:21] <pork> The docs for network config are terrible
[23:22] <atc3030|ubuntu> to take my plan even further, I would then like to take my "chinese super computer ;)" lol and run a desktop environment on it so that I can remote into it from my laptop or any computer anywhere and do all of my stuff. So that when I am developing (I do alot of code development for AOSP/CM/Android) I can utilize all the power of the virtual server that i cant put in a backpac
[23:22] <atc3030|ubuntu> lol
[23:22] <atc3030|ubuntu> agreed
[23:23] <atc3030|ubuntu> I spent an hour on it last night then said screw it and just let my router handle dhcp
[23:24] <pork> My setup wasn't too different from yours when I was in college
[23:24] <atc3030|ubuntu> haha. sounds like me. lol. seeing as im in college. lol
[23:24] <pork> and what you're aiming for is what I thought about and could not achieve, simply because OSs aren't meant to span different machines
[23:25] <pork> I instead provisioned several servers, then split the resources up using vms
[23:25] <pork> I used Vbox
[23:25] <pork> (virtualbox)
[23:25] <pork> Then I had each server responsible for its own descrete task
[23:26] <pork> in your case, you would have one environment for each kind of dev you do
[23:26] <pork> at lead one environment for each***
[23:26] <atc3030|ubuntu> I think i am still gonna use maas for the web stuff, such as file hosting, web sharing, media sharing, and then use the os iteself for the desktop environment. luckily my main server has 8 gig and dual quad core
[23:26] <atc3030|ubuntu> maas still seems like a neat system to mess with
[23:26] <pork> I agree
[23:26] <atc3030|ubuntu> if nothing else, it keeps me busy
[23:26] <pork> hahaha
[23:27] <atc3030|ubuntu> team learning experience hahahahaaha
[23:27] <pork> well yeah, if you're planning on finding old machines and you don't wanna spend 100000 hours on each one setting shit up, then maas is the right tool, I think
[23:27] <pork> which is what I am trying to confirm
[23:27] <pork> but I haven't been able to get the network config right
[23:27] <atc3030|ubuntu> for a broke college kid which is all i can get my hands on yep haha
[23:28] <pork> but you said you gave up and let the router handle it
[23:28] <pork> which means that you added a dnsmasq command to your router, correct?
[23:28] <atc3030|ubuntu> what I wanted to do. was use the main server, since it has 2 network interfaces, have one for internet only, the other to handle the network for nodes, which would be hooked up to the switch
[23:28] <atc3030|ubuntu> no
[23:29] <atc3030|ubuntu> my router handles all of the dhcp stuff itself
[23:29] <pork> Right, so what you were going for was similar to what I have in my graphic?
[23:30] <pork> Mine can too. I am on ddwrt firmware, and I added dhcp-boot=pxelinux.0,,202.202.1.137 to my dnsmasq
[23:30] <atc3030|ubuntu> yeah, thats exactly what i want
[23:30] <atc3030|ubuntu> and i use ddwrt as well
[23:31] <pork> Cool, maybe I can finally get this shit down
[23:31] <pork> So you did NOT have to add an entry to your dnsmasq?
[23:31] <atc3030|ubuntu> not that i am aware of
[23:32] <pork> Hahah you would have remembered that shit, unless you were drunk coding
[23:33] <pork> Soo, when you set this up, you only had one network?
[23:35] <atc3030|ubuntu> the drunk coding has been known to happen, but not last night
[23:35] <atc3030|ubuntu> haha. and yes
[23:35] <atc3030|ubuntu> I am redoing my system right now
[23:35] <atc3030|ubuntu> I need to figure out why two of my machines wont wol
[23:36] <pork> I had that problem too; never solved
[23:36] <pork> although the nodes I was fucking with are old pentium 4's
[23:36] <pork> who knows why they wouldn't wake
[23:40] <pork> Fuckk this pulling the images down every time is killing me
[23:52] <atc3030|ubuntu> hey sorry i was movign everything
[23:52] <atc3030|ubuntu> lol