[00:52] <iBelieve> mhall119: ping regarding contributing to the shell and platform
[01:03] <mhall119> iBelieve: pong
[01:04] <mhall119> iBelieve: it's a bit late, but let's see who's around
[01:05] <mhall119> ogra_ sergiusens and rsalveti are all involved with the platform side of things around Touch
[01:05] <iBelieve> mhall119: is the European working time better? I can come back then
[01:05] <mhall119> Saviq is the development manager for Unity 8
[01:05] <rsalveti> for platform related questions I can probably help
[01:05] <mhall119> iBelieve: we can see who's still around, but it is definitely more active in here earlier in the day
[01:06] <mhall119> rsalveti: hey there, iBelieve would like to find out where and how he can get involved with developing more than just apps
[01:07] <rsalveti> right, there are a bunch of projects and areas that are part of the core os
[01:07] <rsalveti> the android container, hybris and usage of the android hal, basic services such as telephony, multimedia, etc
[01:07] <rsalveti> kernel, mir :-)
[01:08] <mhall119> iBelieve: do you want to be involved in shell and platform services stuff?
[01:08] <mhall119> or lower level than that?
[01:08] <iBelieve> mhall119: anything in QML and Qt sounds interesting
[01:09] <mhall119> right, so Unity 8 is a big area where those contributions are needed
[01:09] <iBelieve> mhall119: maybe the shell, SDK, etc.
[01:09] <iBelieve> mhall119: unity8 would be very interesting to work on
[01:09] <mhall119> http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity8/ has instructions for that
[01:10] <mhall119> bzoltan, Mirv and Kaleo can tell you where contributions to the SDK itself can be made
[01:10] <mhall119> I know they have a lot of components they'd like to see developed, and not enough time to do it themselves
[01:11] <iBelieve> mhall119: should I set up unity8 for development and then come back during the European working hours?
[01:12] <mhall119> iBelieve: yeah, it doesn't take long to setup a local unity8 dev environment
[01:12] <mhall119> if you join #ubuntu-unity tomorrow in European time, you can talk to more of the devs there
[01:12] <iBelieve> mhall119: it might with our internet speeds :)
[02:00] <TechieElf> Anyone here have a spare Xt907 that they can test my port with?
[02:29] <ivost2> I am trying to port UT to unsupported device - inforce ifc6410 (uses S4 snapdragon / msm8610).
[02:29] <ivost2> I can build from CodeAurora source OK and followed CM instructions to create new directories and files, edited manifest and local_manifests etc.
[02:29] <ivost2> The device shows on the lunch menu, but when selected I see "device not found" error.
[02:29] <ivost2> Device msm8960 not found. Attempting to retrieve device repository from CyanogenMod Github (http://github.com/CyanogenMod) ...
[02:29] <ivost2> ** Don't have a product spec for: 'msm8960'
[02:29] <ivost2> ** Do you have the right repo manifest?
[02:29] <ivost2> What am I missing? Is there anyway to "supply" the kernel (I edited configs according to instructions) to trusty?
[02:29] <ivost2> I am unable to find more details about UT -  android "magic"...
[02:37] <cjohnston> /`/1
[02:39]  * homestar ...
[03:00] <TechieElf> ivost2: The msm8960 isn't a device. If I am not mistaken, it's the board.
[04:55] <Mirv> mhall119: if you mean the Qt Creator, https://code.launchpad.net/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu
[05:33] <AskUbuntu> Can i install Ubuntu on bada os of Samsung Wave 2 S8530? | http://askubuntu.com/q/377296
[08:03] <dholbach> good morning
[09:38] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy PlayStation 4 Release Day! :-D
[10:28] <davmor2> Morning all
[12:14] <timppa> are there known problems on GSM todays build on trusty?
[12:14] <timppa> Just updated and cannot call anymore
[12:15] <popey> i can
[12:15] <popey> on mako
[12:15] <timppa> Hmm, I'm on nexus 4
[12:17] <timppa> /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-context shows only ril_0
[12:18] <timppa> dunno if it should show something else also
[12:18] <davmor2> timppa: I can on maguro (gnex)
[12:21] <timppa> davmor2, popey, Can you check what the list-context shows on your devices?
[12:22] <popey> bash: /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-context: No such file or directory
[12:22] <timppa> ok
[12:22] <popey> sorry, yes
[12:22] <popey> plural contexts
[12:22] <popey> timppa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6420912/
[12:23] <davmor2> timppa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6420913/
[12:24] <davmor2> popey: that's impressed me consecutive numbers that never happens normally :)
[12:24] <timppa> scripts/get-operators dies on error, org.ofono.NetworkRegistration doesn'r exist
[12:24] <popey> works here
[12:24] <ogra_> timppa, does your SIM use a PIN ... did you unlock after rebooting ?
[12:24] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6420921/
[12:25] <ogra_> (or could it be that you ran out of credit)
[12:25] <davmor2> works for me to I rang my house phone
[12:26] <timppa> I don't have a pin and it's a company sim
[12:26] <timppa> hopefully it's paid.. :D
[12:28] <timppa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6420935/
[12:31] <timppa> any ideas except flashing with -1??
[12:32] <timppa> ok, I enabled wireless, then I got signal again
[12:33] <timppa> now /usr/share/ofono/scripts/get-operators works also
[12:33] <timppa> 3G data works also
[12:34] <timppa> I try disabling the WLAN again and reboot
[12:36] <timppa> Ok, same thing, no signal (there actually is no text "no signal") Only WLAN icon
[12:37] <ogra_> how does your battery look like btw ?
[12:37] <ogra_> might be a low power issue
[12:37] <asac> who owns ubuntu-touch-meta?
[12:37] <ogra_> asac, phonedations
[12:37] <asac> is that phonedations right now?
[12:37] <asac> ok thx
[12:37] <asac> ogra_: is that in a bzr tree?
[12:37] <ogra_> but any core dev in fact
[12:37] <timppa> After enabling wireless nothing happens but after I select the correct wireless network, immediately No Signal text appears and if a second I get GSM coverage
[12:37] <asac> or produced from a seed?
[12:37] <didrocks> seed
[12:37] <timppa> ogra_: 93%
[12:38] <ogra_> asac, its a generation script inside a source deb
[12:38] <ogra_> it uses the seed to produce its binaries
[12:38] <timppa> if == in
[12:39] <asac> why is there no sdk-libs-common for things that we ship on all archs?
[12:39] <asac> e.g. what script framework are we using?
[12:39] <ogra_> asac, no idea, ask xnox he designed the re-organized seeds
[12:40] <timppa> Should I file a bug on this?
[12:40] <asac> kk thx
[12:40] <ogra_> asac, but i guess common would be arch: all ... that wouldnt make much sense
[12:40] <ogra_> since meta produces for all arches anyway
[12:40] <asac> ogra_: iw ould think -all would be all
[12:40] <asac> and -common would be the common parts of any :)
[12:40] <asac> hehe
[12:40] <ogra_> (so you would have a ßcommon for each arch=
[12:41] <asac> not sure :) ... not important anyway for me
[12:41]  * asac moves on
[12:42] <asac> ogra_: is there no bzr tree?
[12:42] <asac> just the self-evolving package?
[12:42] <ogra_> nops, wouldnt make much sense
[12:42] <ogra_> meta doesnt usually change through a release
[12:42] <xnox> asac: I'm sorry, can you explain a bit more? sdk-libs => things that should ship on the target & to developers, sdk-libs-dev => things that should ship to compile (or cross-compile, e.g. .h), sdk => things that should ship to developers (e.g. QtCreator, documentation, demos)
[12:43] <xnox> asac: so e.g. script frameworks (html5/js) should be part of sdk-libs, as it should be present on the target images and at compile time and during development.
[12:43] <xnox> asac: note that sdk, depends on both sdk-libs-dev and sdk-libs. sdk-libs-dev depends on sdk-libs.
[12:43] <asac> xnox: isnt important as i said. just saw that we duplicate data in -i386 and -armhf and thought there might be a way to rather have a single file for those that should be on all target archs
[12:43] <asac> but not important :)
[12:44] <ogra_> asac, the seed is the single file ... its a set of deps anyway that the meta produces ... there is no beef inside the binary packages ... just deps
[12:44] <xnox> asac: package itself can be _all.deb & seeded into sdk-libs =) which one did you spot which was arch:any instead of arch:all?
[12:45] <asac> xnox: for one:
[12:45] <asac> grep qtdeclarative5-accounts-plugin sdk-libs-i386 sdk-libs-armhf
[12:45] <asac> sdk-libs-i386:qtdeclarative5-accounts-plugin
[12:45] <asac> sdk-libs-armhf:qtdeclarative5-accounts-plugin
[12:45] <xnox> don't they have compiled.so inside them?
[12:45]  * xnox looks at the contents.
[12:45] <asac> for me the contents dont matter :)
[12:46] <asac> jkust feels what we really would like to say is: we want to install qtdeclarative5-accounts-plugin on all architectures
[12:46] <ogra_> thats what the meta package does for you
[12:46] <asac> so we dont need to keep -<arch> files in syunch :)
[12:46] <ogra_> based on whats in the seed
[12:46] <asac> ic
[12:46] <asac> ok
[12:46] <asac> yeah so missed the link to the seed
[12:46] <xnox> asac: sdk-libs-i386 are generated from the seed. they are not maintained by hand.
[12:46] <ogra_> fii i dont add an arch field to a package in the seed, the dep will show up on all arch binaries the meta produces
[12:46] <asac> right
[12:46] <asac> :)
[12:47] <asac> thanks for explaining
[12:47] <asac> hehe
[12:47] <ogra_> :)
[12:47] <xnox> asac: don't look at meta source packages in the archive, look at branches in the http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds package.
[12:47] <xnox> =)
[12:47] <ogra_> yeah
[12:47] <ogra_> meta is just a generator that processes the seeds
[12:47] <ogra_> as i said in the beginning
[12:47] <asac> maybe the debian/control file should somewhat refer to the bzr branch of the seed
[12:48] <asac> to express that its generated/updated with data from there
[12:48] <xnox> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.trusty/view/head:/sdk
[12:48] <ogra_> it does so in update.cfg
[12:48] <xnox> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.trusty/view/head:/sdk-libs
[12:48] <xnox> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.trusty/view/head:/sdk-libs-dev
[12:48] <xnox> asac: ^ is actually where the seeds defined, which a simple one line per package name.
[12:49] <asac> ogra_: thats internal info... i think its useful to also include such info in the meta info on packaging level.
[12:49] <xnox> the dependenices of those are expanded and meta packages dependencies generated.
[12:49] <didrocks> asac: I guess you should read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement#Changing_the_Seeds
[12:49] <xnox> such that we seed the top-level thing. and that pulls in all the required dependencies.
[12:50] <asac> who owns the seeds?
[12:50] <asac> e.g. who approves merges?
[12:50] <asac> any core dev, rkight?
[12:50] <ogra_> for this seed phonedations
[12:50] <ogra_> any core dev could, yeah
[12:50] <davmor2> asac: the gardener /me ducks
[12:50] <ogra_> but usually phonedations gets involved
[12:51] <asac> usually feels like there are exceptionms :)
[12:51] <ogra_> which is fine
[12:51] <didrocks> I did touch this seed for instance
[12:52] <ogra_> right. lool too ... or people from foundations
[12:53] <ogra_> effectively everyone who can commit to the branch can also rebuild meta ...
[12:53] <ogra_> (and in fact should ... )
[12:54] <ogra_> asac, i think the missing bzr entry in control is simply caused by the fact that there is no control field for such a thing ...
[12:54] <ogra_> the existing ones would point to upstream or packaging bzr trees, neither would be correct here
[12:55] <ogra_> we would have to define a new "X-Bzr-Generates-from:" or some such
[12:55] <ogra_> which seems overkill for such a specific thing ... and puts way to much importance into that package
[12:56] <ogra_> asac, btw, the masterplan here was to finally merge the seeds with desktop and have one tree and one meta
[12:57] <ogra_> (but that only works once we have all pieces in main/supported)
[12:57] <ogra_> s/with desktop/with server and desktop/
[13:09] <mzanetti> cjwatson: ping
[13:16] <Mirv> Saviq: did you have that QtC 3.0 branch somewhere? I'm hitting an error of missing private/qlistmodelinterface_p.h with qmlpuppet compiling and wondering if you saw that
[13:18] <Mirv> Saviq: ok, it might have been my build env having also qt4 in it but in case you did some non-trivial modifications I could take a look anyhow
[13:21] <Saviq> Mirv, hmm can't push to kubuntu-packagers, pushing to +junk now
[13:21] <Saviq> ah wait, lp:~unity-team/kubuntu-packaging/qtcreator-30 seems to work
[13:22] <Saviq> Mirv, it doesn't actually build due to some docs issue that I haven't investigated yet
[13:22] <Saviq> Mirv, looked like an upstream problem (docs referencing non-existent doc file)
[13:23] <Mirv> Saviq: thanks, checking out. sounds like an issue I already fixed in qtbase.
[13:23] <Saviq> Mirv, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6421157/
[13:24] <Mirv> Saviq: yep, just that, it should go past that already just by having updated qtbase from PPA
[13:24] <Saviq> Mirv, oh cool
[13:24] <Saviq> trying
[13:26] <Saviq> Mirv, just finished pushing
[13:30] <Mirv> Saviq: thanks, grabbing your patch refreshes for those patches I didn't touch yet
[13:30] <Saviq> Mirv, you probably want to drop some of them
[13:30] <Saviq> Mirv, or maybe when we switch to 5.2, that is
[13:31] <Mirv> Saviq: yep, I dropped the workaround one and it's possible the botan patch isn't needed anymore
[13:43] <cjwatson> mzanetti: I'm at a conference - I'd appreciate it if you could leave a proper message rather than pinging and waiting for me to respond, as my availability is patchy
[13:43] <mzanetti> cjwatson: ok. no problem. this is a bigger discussion. We'll file a bug and we can discuss when you get to it.
[13:47] <Saviq> Mirv, /bin/sh: 1: gdb: not found
[13:47] <Saviq> /bin/sh: 1: test: -gt: unexpected operator
[13:47] <Saviq> Mirv, I've seen such from time to time
[13:48] <Saviq> Mirv, but not sure whether the solution is to actually add gdb to build deps?
[13:49] <Mirv> Saviq: look further back in the log, I'd guess that's not the real problem. I've seen that too.
[13:50] <Saviq> Mirv, right, -j9...
[13:50] <Mirv> I got the same error again
[13:50] <Saviq> Mirv, interesting, "fatal error: private/qlistmodelinterface_p.h"
[13:51] <Saviq> Mirv, might be I never got to that point before
[13:51] <Saviq> although I assumed docs were built after that
[13:51] <Saviq> Mirv, want me to investigate?
[13:53] <Mirv> Saviq: ok, we're getting the same then. feel free to give it a try. is it in the 'qt4' something file? maybe it shouldn't be compiled at all.
[13:53] <Saviq> Mirv, qt4rendernodeinstanceserver.cpp yeah
[13:53] <Saviq> and qt4informationnodeinstanceserver.cpp
[13:55] <Mirv> I'm going to stop at it for now but I merged your patch refreshes to lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtcreator
[13:56] <Saviq> Mirv, cheers
[14:03] <Saviq> Mirv, uh... https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtdeclarative/commit/7daab8039abc32ab5be5706a08cb58905fe0e0b6
[14:04] <Saviq> Mirv, that whole thing was removed in July last year...
[14:05] <Saviq> Mirv, so yeah, it looks like it shouldn't be built with Qt >= 5.0
[14:15] <mterry> ogra_, hello!  Do you have time to look at an upstart job change in unity8 for sanity?
[14:15] <mterry> (or know someone who does?)
[14:24] <ogra_> mterry, sure
[14:25] <mterry> ogra_, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/set-mir-socket/+merge/194963
[14:25] <mterry> ogra_, thanks!
[14:26] <ogra_> mterry, looks fine on first sight ... probably xnox could also take a look
[14:28] <xnox> mterry: looks fine.
[14:28] <mterry> ogra_, xnox: fair enough, thanks!
[14:28] <mterry> Saviq, ^
[14:40] <mterry> MacSlow, so can you give me a refresher on how notifications work in Touch?  The symptom I'm seeing is that from python, a notification.show() will timeout.  Which components does that call go through?  Is unity8 the notification daemon?
[14:41] <MacSlow> mterry, no... unity8 just is the "renderer"-part of the whole notification-story... lp:unity-notifications is the core queue-logic (backend-part)
[14:42] <MacSlow> mterry, do you see any notifications at all on your test-system or just not the ones you trigger?
[14:42] <MacSlow> mterry, mind to share the python-code you use to try to trigger it?
[14:42] <mterry> MacSlow, it's just the unity8 test_notifications.py autopilot suite
[14:43] <mterry> MacSlow, is there an easy way to trigger a notification with my fingers?
[14:43] <MacSlow> mterry, hm... send yourself a sms to the phone
[14:43] <MacSlow> mterry, or call yourself
[14:44] <mterry> hmm, ok, will try that
[14:44] <MacSlow> mterry, if you run unity8 on the desktop via the run-script... the best option there is to use any of the examples from lp:unity-notifications
[14:45] <MacSlow> mterry, you got to have that (unity-notifications) installed too on your system for this to work
[14:45] <mterry> MacSlow, I'm not trusting desktop results right now.  Too much of the Mir nesting code is different on android for me to believe I'm testing the right code paths
[14:45] <mterry> MacSlow, but I suppose I could do the same on my n4
[14:46] <MacSlow> mterry, ok... still you could use the examples from lp:unity-notifications on the phone directly... and trigger them via a remote shell... I use that often
[14:46] <MacSlow> mterry, maybe I should write a small notification-test-app and make it a click-packages... that might be the most convenient solution for everybody not directly involved
[14:47] <MacSlow> with notification development
[14:47] <MacSlow> mterry, just ping me if you still run into issues
[14:50] <mterry> MacSlow, OK, thanks
[14:58] <alexk> hi everyone
[14:59] <alexk> i'd like to modify the environment so that an application comes up on power-up of ubuntu touch. Can anyone offer some hints or documentation to get me started in doing that?
[15:01] <mterry> ogra_, do any of the touch images we generate have mir disabled by default?  Or is that always an extra step that a user will have to do if they want it?
[15:08] <cwayne> mterry, AFAIK it's still disabled on manta
[15:09] <mterry> cwayne, by default?  How do we do that?  Does phablet-flash delete the .display-mir file or something?
[15:10] <cwayne> mterry, not sure tbh
[15:10] <mterry> cwayne, thanks anyway, that's a lead
[15:14] <ogra_> mterry, the .display-mir files gets put in place on first boot
[15:14] <ogra_> manta doesnt do that
[15:14] <ogra_> *file
[15:14] <lool> wow, hard laptop freeze
[15:14] <lool> first time this happens in months; usually it's death by swap
[15:15] <mterry> ogra_, ah...  I see in boot-hooks/set-display-mir.conf
[15:15] <mterry> ogra_, thanks!
[15:34] <didrocks> mhall119: oh, FYI, the status isn't visible on my screen
[15:34] <didrocks> orange on red I guess
[15:35] <didrocks> mhall119: ok, done and scheduled now. Thanks!
[15:36] <mhall119> didrocks: yeah, I the client track color clashes, we can pick a lighter shade
[15:36] <mhall119> thanks didrocks
[15:47] <dpm> cwayne, you might have noticed I've added you to the reminders-app-dev team in LP - I wanted the evernote plugin to be part of core apps project group and available for installation in the core apps PPA. I've created a project for it and given the evernote app devs ownership, and I've added you as well so that you've got the same permissions
[15:47] <dpm> does that work for you?
[15:48] <cwayne> dpm, sure!
[15:48] <dpm> awesome, thanks!
[15:48] <cwayne> dpm, ah, you already pushed the code up :)
[15:49] <dpm> yeah :)
[15:54] <cwayne> dpm, is it int he ppa yet or shall i push it?
[15:55] <dpm> cwayne, it's building in the PPA right now, I set up a daily build recipe
[15:56] <dpm> cwayne, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily/+builds?build_state=pending
[15:56] <cwayne> dpm, great :)
[16:03] <rvr> seb128: ping
[16:09] <seb128> rvr, contextless ping = no reply
[16:10] <rvr> seb128: cordova-ubuntu l10n issues
[16:10] <seb128> rvr, yes? (better to just ask your question ;-)
[16:11] <seb128> rvr, like "seb128: hey, do you know how...?"
[16:11] <rvr> seb128: Haven't checked your timezone, not sure if still around :)
[16:11] <ogra_> then content in pings is even more important
[16:12] <seb128> rvr, well, I usually close IRC when I'm not, and even if I was not around the context would allow me to reply (even if it's your turn to be away then)
[16:12] <rvr> seb128: So, you use French localization and some tests fail for you, right?
[16:12] <ogra_> :)
[16:12] <seb128> rvr, hum, are you speaking about ubuntu-system-settings? you just said "cordova-ubuntu" and I've no clue what that is
[16:12] <rvr> seb128: Oh, right
[16:13] <rvr> Yeah, System Settings
[16:13] <seb128> right, a third of the tests fail in french
[16:13] <seb128> let me do a run so I can copy an error
[16:16] <seb128> rvr, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6421958/
[16:17] <rvr> Hmmm... UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe8' in position 100: ordinal not in range(128)
[16:17] <rvr> StateNotFoundError: State not found for class '*' and filters {'objectName': 'categoryGridSystem'}.
[16:17] <seb128> rvr, or http://paste.ubuntu.com/6421962/
[16:17] <seb128> seems like an encoding issue
[16:18] <seb128> is autopilot using utf8?
[16:18] <rvr> Good question
[16:18] <rvr> reference = "V\xc3\xa9rifier l'existence de mises \xc3\xa0 jour"
[16:18] <rvr> actual    = u"Vérifier l'existence de mises à jour"
[16:18] <rvr> reference is not a unicode string
[16:21] <rvr> seb128: When you open system settings, you can see the Network and System sections, right?
[16:27] <seb128> rvr, yes, they both have an accent in their french name though
[16:27] <seb128> rvr, why?
[16:31] <rvr> seb128: Oh, so maybe the objectName is now categoryGrid + _("System") :-/
[16:31] <rvr> Will also check that
[16:32] <seb128> rvr, you should be able to reproduce by using LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF-8 btw (you need language-pack-fr to have the locale though)
[16:33] <seb128> rvr, unset LANG/LANGUAGE might also be needed
[16:33] <rvr> I was trying with set LC_ALL and didn't work
[16:34] <rvr> Aha, unset LANG/LANGUAGE... thanks
[16:42] <rvr> That's it: > objectName: categoryGridSistema
[16:52] <johnmindfreak> so the razr lunch files for ubuntu touch anybody know where to get them????
[16:52] <johnmindfreak> so the razr lunch files for ubuntu touch anybody know where to get them????
[17:10] <spindley> exit
[17:20] <daker> ogra_: good or bad now :D load average: 3.52, 8.41, 7.67
[17:21] <ogra_> well, its getting winter ...
[17:21] <ogra_> surely saves some heating
[17:24] <daker> not sure why i do still have a qwerty keyboard while i am using FR as main language
[17:38] <daker> kenvandine: where the code of the online accounts providers is located ?
[17:38] <daker> for the phone
[17:47] <kenvandine> daker, lp:account-plugins
[17:50] <daker> kenvandine: i am asking because for facebook i am seeing an old html page not the HTML5 one
[17:51] <kenvandine> that is probably because of the user agent on the phone
[17:52] <daker> kenvandine: ya where the page is beeing called ? or a different question do you use the UbuntuWebView ?
[17:53] <kenvandine> we are using a copied version of the UbuntuWebView in signon-ui
[17:53] <kenvandine> signon-ui is in main, and we couldn't introduce a depends from universe
[17:56] <daker> kenvandine: ok got it
[18:12] <std> how usable is up these days?
[18:32] <sheac12> having an problem with ssh connections with touch on a nexus 10 with 13.10 installed
[18:32] <sheac12> can anyone help?
[18:32] <sheac12> I have a stock install and keep getting connection refused when ssh'ing to localhost
[18:36] <daker> ogra_: sys settings was running then unity8 freezes then it restart itself, now it not display in the running apps section but it still running & taking 100% of the cpu http://paste.ubuntu.com/6422557/
[19:47] <o_be_one__> ee
[19:50] <sheac12> anyone have if anyone cares i had to explicitly start ssh
[19:57] <davmor2> ogra_: I'm off next week but I'll be listening in to the UDS with any joy :) Catch you in a weeks time :)
[19:57] <ogra_> davmor2, enjoy !
[19:58] <davmor2> I will :)
[21:30] <paugre> Hi there everyone! :) Just wondering if someone has some information about official support for the Google Nexus 5? Are there any plans for official ubuntu touch builds or not? Thanks!
[21:33] <daker> hi ogra_ where can i find unity8 logs ?
[22:00] <ogra_> daker, all logs of all session apps are in ~/.local/upstart/
[22:00] <ogra_> hmm, or was it .cache
[22:01] <ogra_> yeah, actually ~/.cache/upstart/
[22:01] <kenvandine> ogra_,  daker: it's .cache/upstart
[22:02] <daker> kenvandine: right!
[22:08] <daker> now i can make restart very easily using the signon ui
[22:08] <mterry> sforshee, poke?  you still working?  I'm looking at a patch for powerd, and trying to figure out why g_idle_add doesn't work, but g_timeout_add(0) does?
[22:25] <mterry> ogra_, out of curiosity, how long are we expecting to support SurfaceFlinger mode in Touch?
[23:04] <ogra_> mterry, as long as we support ports ?
[23:06] <mterry> ogra_, makes sense
[23:07] <ogra_> (well, or until Mir supports a good set of drivers ... )
[23:27] <twager> Anyone know if ubuntu will run on a zte blade ?