[00:00] <berga> I was under the impression valve would be releasing a sort of steambox along with the OS, which would essentially be a PC but with the simplicity of a console
[00:00] <Corvaxia> darn. I didn't expect it to work but I still had a glimmer of hope.
[00:01] <Corvaxia> Berga: They are developing a linux based OS/Steam application for prebuilt or custom built PC's.
[00:01] <berga> maybe that's not what you where asking though, my state of mind is not 100%
[00:01] <Corvaxia> Eh, I appreciate the input regardless.
[00:01] <berga> ya that't what I meant, I guess you where talking about maybe replacing xbox OS with steam OS or something?
[00:02] <Corvaxia> yes
[00:02] <k1l> steam is not gpoing to release boxes (besides the test boxes for beta testers). they just focus on the OS. but that is quite too much offtopic for a ubuntu support channel. better suits into #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:02] <berga> no idea then =)
[00:02] <Safety_Dance> Xbone is going to run 3 os
[00:02] <berga> really exceted for steam os though, i gotta say
[00:02] <fobelx> hi i need sshd for ubuntu 6.10. which package do i need to use?
[00:02] <nd456> ~~~Can anyone help me getting my wireless card working?
[00:02] <berga> been trying to switch 100% to linux but so many games won't run well in wine
[00:02] <kiwi_> good night ... yawn
[00:03] <v3n0mDr0p> hi I'm trying to help a friend. almost a year back I gave him ubntu 12.04. I personally use 13.10 and very tempted to upgrade him. he asked me to help him out after he forgot his password. fixed that issue. but now I am facing a different problem. the old 12.04 unity is so slow when scroling it up and down. can some one show me a way to speed up its reaction speed?
[00:04] <Safety_Dance> v3n0mDr0p, what driver is loading with X
[00:04] <pirret> forgot his password :) sounds like he is not using his ubuntu box too often :)
[00:04] <k1l> fobelx: i dont think you want to use ubuntu 06.10
[00:05] <Danato> kll maybe he has a pre-historic computer
[00:05] <fobelx> k1l: i need to but what would the package be named in any case?
[00:05] <v3n0mDr0p> Safety_Dance, I don't know. I'm trying to look for it now
[00:05] <Safety_Dance> maybe so but those repos are long gone he will have to compile i think
[00:06] <k1l> Danato: that is no excuse. that packages dont get any updates and the ssh package got safty issues you learn in primary school today
[00:06] <Safety_Dance> /var/log/Xorg.log check in there v3
[00:06] <Safety_Dance> /var/log/Xorg.log check in there v3n0mDr0p
[00:07] <v3n0mDr0p> Safety_Dance, I went to system settings, details. intel 945gm x86/mmx/se2
[00:07] <Dannermax> This is driving me crazy. I have mounted a share at this path: mnt/nas but my problem is when i use Utorrent and i ad a torrent, it tells me: "Error former volume not mounted" but in another directory on the mount, it is able to delete snatches torrent files.. so why is it saying that? My smb.conf share is configured like this: http://pastebin.com/Ke0EzpHD
[00:08] <Dannermax> I write here, because i, maybe i have mounted the share the wrong way?
[00:09] <Dannermax> The utorrent server and ubuntu are on the same server
[00:11] <Safety_Dance> v3n0mDr0p, iirc that driver is called 'intel' check the log to ensure that is driver loaded if it is you probalby have optimal driver...
[00:12] <Safety_Dance> its /var/log/Xorg.0.log sorry
[00:13] <fobelx> hi. i am looking at files in http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/o/openssh/. have noticed files openssh-server-*.udeb. what is the .udeb extension indicate about the type of the file? is it still a debian package file i can install in ubuntu? thanks.
[00:14] <Safety_Dance> grep for LoadModule: "intel"
[00:14] <Safety_Dance> make sure there is no 'EE'
[00:15] <v3n0mDr0p> Safety_Dance, I have xorg.0.log and xorg.1.log. wich one do I open
[00:16] <rbrooks> v3n0mDr0p, try the 0 one
[00:16] <rbrooks> it should be the newest one or hmm
[00:17] <Safety_Dance> v3n0mDr0p, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:18] <v3n0mDr0p> Safety_Dance, I'm in and I told it to look for intel. got multiple results. exactly what am I looking for?
[00:20] <Safety_Dance> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep '"intel"'
[00:20] <Safety_Dance> just make sure that module loaded it sound like it is
[00:21] <darkfader__> can anyone tell me if these errors found in .xsession-errors could explain why my system would randomly slow down for no apparent reason? http://pastebin.com/eFDuadax
[00:22] <moengac> how do you restore windows 8 bootloader?
[00:22] <Jinxy> Is there a command to get information about url in the terminal?
[00:22] <Jinxy> I think there is but I've forgotten it
[00:23] <Jinxy> or an application that gives tons of information about a url, like a reverse lookup
[00:23] <moengac> its still partitioned on my hard disk.
[00:24] <Safety_Dance> moengac, did you already try to reinstall windows or some thing just asking?
[00:24] <moengac> when i turn the power on it takes me to grub
[00:24] <moengac> no i haven't
[00:24] <v3n0mDr0p> Safety_Dance, look I'm in the xorg.0.log and I am still confused where inthe log I am trying to find
[00:25] <moengac> when i reinstall won't i lose all my files?
[00:26] <Safety_Dance> v3n0mDr0p, just make that command outputs (II) LoadModule: "intel", not (EE) LoadModule: "intel"
[00:27] <Safety_Dance> moengac, no i was just asking if you did that you should probably run the grub2 configuration...
[00:27] <Safety_Dance> then grub may load windows i dunno
[00:28] <jhooper> Hey, do you guys still do Mac-specific ISOs? Or have the Mac-related issues with the regular ISOs been fixed?
[00:28] <v3n0mDr0p> Safety_Dance, LoadModule: "glx"
[00:28] <v3n0mDr0p> [    22.849] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[00:28] <v3n0mDr0p> [    22.849] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[00:29] <Safety_Dance> yeah it is probably loading intel module...
[00:29] <v3n0mDr0p> Safety_Dance, does that tel you something or I am I posting the wrong thing
[00:29] <moengac> i dondoes anyone else have an idea on how to restore windows 8 bootloader if its still partitioned on hard drive.
[00:29] <Safety_Dance> idk why it would be slow i think it was supposed to be good at this point v3n0mDr0p
[00:29] <Safety_Dance> v3n0mDr0p, kinda...
[00:30] <v3n0mDr0p> Safety_Dance, the rest of the system is find. Everything works the way it should. its just the unity bar is slow when scroling up and down as opposed to 13.10. Just want to speed the scrolling up
[00:30] <Safety_Dance> yeah i here ya
[00:32] <enye> Hello there, I am trying to get rsyslog to output *.* messages out to tty8, under 12.04, apparently it doesn't work anymore, as it used to do in 10.04. Has anyone sumbled upon the same issue?
[00:33] <enye> *stumbled*
[00:34] <Safety_Dance> v3n0mDr0p, i am not aware of issues with unity...  maybe boot a live cd of newer ubuntu and see how it runs
[00:35]  * enye repeats
[00:35] <Jinxy> Guys, how can I get url information from the command line?
[00:35] <enye> Hello there, I am trying to get rsyslog to output *.* messages out to tty8, under 12.04, apparently it doesn't work anymore, as it used to do in 10.04. Has anyone stumbled upon the same issue?
[00:36] <Safety_Dance> Jinxy, you could ping the domain that will give you ip what info do you need?
[00:36] <enye> 1668 users. no one knows.
[00:36] <enye> good.
[00:36] <jhooper> Do you guys still release Mac-Specific ISOs?
[00:36] <Danato> 1668 users? O.o
[00:37] <v3n0mDr0p> Safety_Dance, last I checked 13.10's unity worked much faster. but theres got to be away to fix this on the long term version . would be a pain in the ass to reinstall all his programs and start allover agian when the next non lts release comes 6 to 8 months from now.
[00:38] <Danato> do we have to reinstall programs when new versions come out?
[00:38] <Jinxy> Safety_Dance : That would work, but there's this nice command in ubuntu that I've forgotten that returns the os of the server in questions, the webserver installed, stuff like that
[00:38] <k1l> Danato: no
[00:38] <Jinxy> Just some general diagnostic information
[00:38] <Danato> thats what i thought, because i dont remember losing anything
[00:39] <Safety_Dance> v3n0mDr0p, yes idk that i would recommend trying to update unity im not really sure maybe use different window manager
[00:39] <Safety_Dance> Jinxy, nmap will give you more of that sort of info
[00:39] <Hexakitty> i have a small issue, i copied my fonts over from my windows install and they show up as blocks when i try and use them... i ran fc-cache -f -v
[00:40] <Safety_Dance> you will need root for some of it's functionality
[00:40] <Jinxy> Safety_Dance: thanks fine, thanks
[00:40] <Jinxy> *that's fine
[00:40] <Safety_Dance> np :)
[00:41] <Jinxy> :D
[00:41] <v3n0mDr0p> Safety_Dance, damn. well another question. if my friend has way to much setup on his desktop and I don't want to do a fresh install. is sudo upgrading safe?
[00:41] <cocontmi> hi all.. has facebook flash games (farmville 2) on ubuntu/linux worked better.. as faster without lag?
[00:42] <Hexakitty> nvm, duh moment i just fixed it lol
[00:43] <v3n0mDr0p> v3n0mDr0p, huh. don't don't to fast scroll I guess. can easily get to the bottom icons moving the mouse torwards them. still want to know if sudo upgrading is a good idea or not
[00:43] <Kramer_> hello?
[00:43] <daftykins> yes
[00:43] <daftykins> ask.
[00:44] <moppy> cocontmi, adobe no longer updates flash player for linux - only google chrome has a current flash player as google have a deal with adobe
[00:44] <Kramer_> I recently made a backup of my personal files using deja dup on Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit. If I restore this on Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit, will I run into some major problems?
[00:44] <daftykins> one way to find out...
[00:45] <cocontmi> moppy: i have chromium.. same difference
[00:45] <moppy> Kramer_, data files *should* copy across fine but you know what they say about backups: an untested backup isn't a backup, all it means is you copied stome stuff
[00:45] <moppy> cocontmi, not chromium, it must be chrome
[00:45] <cocontmi> ok.. i will install chrome and find out.. thanks!
[00:45] <moppy> cocontmi, chrome has 11.9 version of flash (same as windows), chromium has 11.2
[00:46] <Kramer_> Alright, thank you
[00:46] <cocontmi> good info thanks! :)
[00:46] <whoever> edoceo: did you get it  to work ?
[00:48] <Safety_Dance> v3n0mDr0p, if you do try it i would make sure it is backed up and stuff
[00:49] <cocontmi> moppy: chrome stable or beta
[00:49] <Safety_Dance> you could break things that work and your friend may make you redo his system
[00:49] <Safety_Dance> s/could/probably will
[00:50] <Dannermax> sudo blkid /dev/md127 gives type: "xfs" does this mean, that my raid has to be mounted in fstab as a filesystem xfs?
[00:51] <v3n0mDr0p> Safety_Dance, no kidding. anyway its fine now. and It is probably for the best to leave him with the long term version till 14.04 comes out. can't wait for that
[00:51] <v3n0mDr0p> Safety_Dance, 13.10 has a few annoying bugs
[00:51] <edoceo> whoever: remounting /tmp was the fix
[00:53] <Safety_Dance> v3n0mDr0p, yeah...  i am not at all sure how upgrades go these days and it is a risk maybe clone it first then make sure that works if you are willing to try an upgrade
[00:54] <v3n0mDr0p> Safety_Dance, my advice has always been clean install from iso files. backup everything.
[00:54] <reisio> you need to learn how to upgrade properly
[00:54] <reisio> if you can't, you're using the wrong distro
[00:54] <rampageRipper> i'm not getting any sounds,what went wrong?
[00:54] <reisio> rampageRipper: any number of things
[00:55] <rampageRipper> reisio: ?
[00:55] <Safety_Dance> v3n0mDr0p, yeah read the docs on upgrading it might work like a charm
[00:56] <Safety_Dance> at that point it is a lot of work anyway and the cloning i would do regardless... more time there...  might be better fresh ubuntu wipe
[00:56] <v3n0mDr0p> Safety_Dance, i will. but again this system will be fine as 12.04. thank you. I'm out for right now. thank you for the help
[00:57] <Safety_Dance> np at all
[01:02] <Cryto_Anon> hallo?
[01:03] <Carlos_Montez> hello
[01:11] <SnowTri> I have a red triangle that pops up randomly at the top right of my computer, how do I get rid of it?
[01:15] <SnowTri> I have a red triangle that pops up randomly at the top right of my computer, how do I get rid of it?
[01:21] <buu> SnowTri: http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/5485
[01:25] <berga> in the ubuntu (in vbox) file manager (10.04.4) won't usb sticks mount automatically?
[01:25] <berga> otherwise, how will I mount it?
[01:26] <berga> I'm pretty used to thunar, which does this automatically
[01:27] <asshat> berga: use the mount command
[01:28] <berga> thanks, checking the manpage now
[01:28] <T1341> I have some problem with my Update Manager. When I check for updates, it gives this message:
[01:28] <T1341> Failed to download repository information, Check internet connection.
[01:28] <T1341> However, it often does have updates and will download them.
[01:28] <T1341> This also comes with a couple other problems. One is a red exclamation-triangle in the bar near the top right corner that claims that some of the update information is outdated. The other is in the main Update Manager window, there is a message that says "The package information was last updated 8 days ago."
[01:28] <berga> there is a command that lists all connected devices right?
[01:28] <FloodBot1> T1341: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:29] <asshat> T1341: try sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:30] <asshat> berga:lsusb will do what you want
[01:30] <berga> thank you much
[01:31] <Hai_Karate> lspci
[01:31] <berga> i like you guys, havent seen a rtfm since I  got here
[01:31] <T1341> Thank you so much asshat
[01:37] <Richhh> have tried several discs, IDE cables and optical drives and still no luck installing ubuntu that way, have tried 2 seperate makes of a bootable usb from windows, when trying to boot them i get Invalid system disk. Replace the disk and press any key. Ideas?
[01:37] <Richhh> thinking of just buying a new motherboard
[01:37] <berga> hah! devices menu in virtualbox is a nifty shortcut to mounting an usb stick, fyi
[01:37] <asshat> Richh: is it uefi bios?
[01:37] <whoever> edwardly: cool
[01:38] <whoever> edwardly: glad i could be virtualy usless in this case :-)
[01:39] <Richhh> asshat dont know, it looks like this: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bios&rlz=1C1SAVG_enGB520GB520&espv=210&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=LnuFUqHOHeiN7AadlIHQAw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1092&bih=498#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=A5wpzcQBjq5h_M%3A%3B8PKxkGfuzPfreM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.bcot1.com%252Fbios02.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.bcot1.com%252Fbios1.html%3B800%3B600
[01:39] <Richhh> http://www.bcot1.com/bios02.jpg
[01:41] <Richhh> there is no OS installed
[01:41] <asshat> Richhh: ok so it's not uefi bios, did you download a 64bit version of ubuntu?
[01:41] <Richhh> guessing its not uefi
[01:42] <Richhh> lubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso  - 32bit if i got it right
[01:42] <ianorlin> ah yeah that is 32 bit
[01:43] <asshat> Richhh: is this a dell machine?
[01:44] <Richhh> fujitsu siemens
[01:44] <asshat> Richhh: try removing all but one stick of ram. I have encountered problems with older versions of bios and different speeds of RAM. Try removing all but one stick just in case
[01:44] <asshat> Richhh: you can put them back after install but for install just one stick
[01:45] <Richhh> ok, i think they are a matched pair anyway but will try
[01:46] <Bozza> anybody good at gutenptrint?
[01:46] <Tegano> ,,!,,
[01:47] <Bozza> does anyone know about gutenprint?
[01:48] <Tegano> shutup
[01:48] <Bozza> i am getting blank pages when i print
[01:48] <Bozza> Tegano: come again?
[01:48] <asshat> Bozza: sorry never heard of it
[01:48] <blazers> i need help please
[01:48] <Tegano> yes
[01:48] <blazers> i want to unistall simplescreenrecorder
[01:48] <blazers> this is how i installed
[01:48] <blazers> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:maarten-baert/simplescreenrecorder
[01:48] <blazers> sudo apt-get update
[01:48] <blazers> sudo apt-get install simplescreenrecorder
[01:48] <FloodBot1> blazers: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <asshat> blazers: sudo apt-get remove simplescreenrecorder
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | blazers
[01:49] <Richhh> asshat just tried with 1 ram stick, same error
[01:49] <Bozza> arent gutenprint the standard printer drivers in ubuntu=
[01:49] <Bozza> ?
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> Bozza, Have you opened printers and seen the printer listed?
[01:50] <asshat> Richhh: you might want to try updating the bios and have you tried the discs in a different computer to test them?
[01:50] <asshat> Bozza: you're right my mistake
[01:51] <Bozza> wilee-nilee: printer is listed, it connects and prints a blank page. however i am not on ubuntu so this may not be the best place to get support
[01:51] <blazers> i tried sudo apt-get remove simplescreenrecorder and it seemed to have worked. this process doesnt leave anything behind does it?
[01:51] <asshat> blazers: should remove it just fine
[01:51] <blazers> cool tnx
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> blazers, You would use purge rather than remove to get most or all.
[01:52] <Bozza> wilee-nilee: i wouldn't know if there is a general unix irc channel. but ubuntu guys seem like the most knowledgable since ubuntu has been using gutenprint for quite a long time now as i recall
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> Bozza, Is this a ubuntu OS?
[01:52] <Bozza> i am too embarrassed to say
[01:52] <Bozza> OS X mavericks
[01:52] <Richhh> i will try updating the bios
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> Bozza, This is ubuntu support is the only problem.
[01:53] <Bozza> HP photosmart 7350
[01:53] <Bozza> yea i know. it really sucks asking the question here
[01:54] <daftykins> lmao
[01:54] <daftykins> Bozza: which apple channels have you tried?
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> Bozza, There is an apple channel
[01:55] <blazers> one last thing. i keep getting this error on startup
[01:55] <blazers> buffer i/o error on device zram0 logical block 508192. What does this mean?
[01:55] <tomcheng76> wilee-nilee: whats the channel name ?
[01:56] <tomcheng76> btw, can anyone tell me how to list and search the irc channel name and description in irssi ?
[01:56] <Bozza> wilee-nilee: what is a good apple channel? i am usually in the macrumors channel as the guys there are very knowledgable. the reason why i thought to ask here was because ubuntu has been using gutenprint forever by default
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> Bozza, I see ##apple
[01:57] <Bozza> i know it seems ridiculous asking here .. i feel ridiculous lol .. but there is reasoning behind it haha :)
[01:57] <Bozza> wilee-nilee: ty will give it a go
[01:57] <Bozza> wilee-nilee: also reading up on that huge gutenprint manual
[01:58] <blazers> buffer i/o error on device zram0 logical block 508192. What does this mean?
[01:58] <asshat> blazers: i've not encountered your issue before but here's a thread that seems to be the same problem, you may find some help here
[01:58] <asshat> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2103472.html
[01:59] <thunderkey> i have an hp dm4-1160us laptop running 13.10 64bit.  There is a bios update, but all the packages are for windows.  What do you guys suggest for installing this bios update?
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> blazers, can you post the output from this command. lsb_release -a
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> thunderkey, No windows install?
[02:01] <thunderkey> wilee-nilee, no windows install.  completely ubuntu.
[02:01] <blazers> No LSB modules are available.
[02:01] <blazers> Distributor ID:	Zorin
[02:01] <blazers> Description:	Zorin OS 6
[02:01] <maxh76> Hello
[02:02] <blazers> Release:	6
[02:02] <blazers> Codename:	precise
[02:02] <asshat> thunderkey:try minix in heirens boot cd
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> thunderkey, many bios updates have a bootable media I would look for that.
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> blazers, Zorin is not supported here unfortunately
[02:02] <thunderkey> wilee-nilee, 10-4.  I will give it a shot and if I run into any trouble, I will get back on and update.  Thanks :)
[02:03] <thunderkey> asshat, thanks, I will give that a shot too.
[02:03] <Tegano> \(oo)/  '(oO)
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> !ops | Tegano
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> Tegano, This is support please treat is as such, the ops will ban you completely after a point.
[02:05] <synth_> hello, is there an easy way to run a cgi script as a particular user/group instead of www-data ?
[02:06] <Tegano> me I didn't understand the ban ?
[02:07] <Tegano> for ban ?
[02:08] <reisio> synth_: suexec
[02:08] <natural> is this the ubuntu support channel?
[02:08] <maxh76>  I'm pretty sure.
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> natural, Yah sure you betcha.
[02:08] <natural> cool, thank
[02:09] <synth_> reisio thanks, i'll google that
[02:09] <Danato> no, wrong number :P
[02:09] <pfifo> I provide ubuntu support :)
[02:10] <natural> ok, so i have read that ubuntu 13.04 has a firewall already in place within the os itself through the update program or something, so does that mean i dont need the gufw firewall?  you know separrate download through the software center. does that thing help at all in keeping me safe online?
[02:10] <xorgnak> natural: you'll be fine.
[02:10] <maxh76> Does anyone know if the bug in 12.10 with crashing nvidia drivers has been fixed?
[02:11] <pfifo> !info gufw | natural
[02:11] <asshat> maxh76: works fine in 13.10
[02:12] <pfifo> natural: gufw is simply the graphical tool to ufw (the firewall thats already installed) You might like gufw if you need a gui or havent ever used ufw
[02:12] <Danato> natural if youre not feeling safe enough using a linux distro the other OS' should make you paranoid
[02:12] <natural> i know it is optional, but so are working windows, haha, ok, but if i install it thorugh software center then just turn it on on the standard settings, does it help with online safety or does it just slow down my connection?
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> maxh76, Look at that bug page and find out.
[02:13] <asshat> natural: all gufw is is a tool to help configure ufw which is already installed on your computer
[02:13] <maxh76> Alright, I'll do that wilee-nilee, thank you.
[02:14] <natural> thanks asshat
[02:14] <xorgnak> I've been a linux user for seven years, and I've never felt the need to run a personal firewall.  Work is one thing, but it's not necessary at all really.  Don't do anything stupid, but you'll probably be fine without installing one.
[02:14] <PDilyard> that sounds sarcastic lol
[02:14] <pfifo> natural: imo a firewall does not 'help' with security or slow down your connection
[02:14] <Tortex> Hey Guys!! im using a toshiba l645D s4036 with ubuntu 13.10, it does not recognize the battery. I dosnt show the battery icon. i have try everything that i could find. Does anyone know what to do???
[02:14] <xorgnak> bingo.
[02:15] <natural> cool, xorgnak what do you mean by something stupid?
[02:15] <Danato> Tortex, can you open the power management settings?
[02:16] <natural> power management settings are accessible through the top left icon on 'unity' click then type settings click on all settings or settings manager then on power settings, at least thats how i would get there quickly, i like unity
[02:16] <xorgnak> natural: stupid always finds a way of being unpredictable, but something akin to posting an unencrypted plain text file with all your particulars and passwords, you know - as a backup on your /var/www.
[02:18] <Tortex> yup i can acces it
[02:18] <natural> yeah i dont normally post anything unless it is some kind of screen shot or somehting like how to get ssl up and running, but no pw's or anything
[02:18] <jmgk> hey natural
[02:19] <natural> oh christ
[02:19] <jmgk> something wrong ?
[02:19] <jmgk> heh
[02:20] <Tortex> but there is no battery options just what to do when the lid is close
[02:20] <natural> head over to defocus jm, i dont think this channel is the right place for conversations about subjects other than ubuntu
[02:20] <Tortex> nothing related to the battery
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> Tortex, Has this been since install?
[02:20] <Danato> Tortex: theres should be an option jst bellow the lid option to show battery status in the menu bar
[02:21] <Danato> ah well. then idk
[02:21] <xorgnak> Tortex: cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/status
[02:22] <natural> BAT0 --> 2501? name that anime
[02:22] <Tortex> yeap is put on: when the battery is available - or something like that, my ubuntu is installed on Spanish :) -
[02:22] <xorgnak> Tortex: cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/voltage_now
[02:22] <natural> thats a good idea to learn a language, like if i wanted to learn french, i would install ubuntu in french
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> xorgnak, That just shows an unknown on my laptop with a working battery.
[02:23] <Danato> mine is BAT1
[02:23] <Tortex> it says that there is no such file
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> Tortex, Has this been since install?
[02:24] <Danato> Tortex, cd to /sys/class/power_supply/
[02:24] <Danato> then ls to see whats the name of it
[02:24] <xorgnak> tab through it.  it'll give you the state of the acpi componants.
[02:24] <pfifo> Tortex: did you get a battery option in previous versions of ubuntu?
[02:25] <Tortex> this is the first time installing ubuntu in this laptop
[02:25] <Tortex> sorry if it takes some time but im a total noob here guys
[02:26] <xorgnak> Tortex: everyone starts somewhere
[02:26] <Luyin> Tortex: welcome to the world of choice ;)
[02:27] <Danato> Im a noob too, I stick to this channel so i can learn a thing or two lol
[02:27] <Tortex> Thank you guys
[02:27] <Tortex> Danato how do i apply the cd command?
[02:27] <asshat> Tortex: this is a known problem. there is a fix out that you can apply here: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=103852
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> Tortex, Was there ever a battery icon and the battery was working? Is the battery really not working or just the icon is missing?
[02:27] <Danato> cd /sys/class/power_supply/
[02:28] <Tortex> ok got it haha
[02:28] <Danato> now type ls
[02:28] <Tortex> ACAD
[02:28] <Danato> theres no BAT# there?
[02:29] <natural> wilee-nilee, i know i can get the battery to show through powersettings or brightness lock? maybe? nah i think its jsut through powewr settings
[02:29] <Tortex> no it just says acad
[02:30] <Tortex> asshat the problem is that if i use cat/proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/
[02:30] <Tortex> is says that the file dont exist
[02:30] <Tortex> the battery icon was never there
[02:30] <Tortex> ubuntu just thinks that this laptops is a desktop
[02:32] <Tortex> i found a guy that deals with a similar problem
[02:32] <Tortex> he trys to get the kernel to recognize the battery
[02:32] <Tortex> but im lost on the steps
[02:33] <Tortex> something is weird
[02:33] <Tortex> and also i tried to install from cero ubuntu just in case
[02:33] <Tortex> but it didn't work
[02:34] <synth_> when mounting a samba share in fstab, is it possible to give multiple users access via the uid= flag?
[02:34] <Tex_Nick> 13.10 gnome fallback (flashback) ... LibreOffice Calc hyperlinks & XChat links ... when i click on those links, firefox just opens a new window with my home page ... anyone else have issue ?
[02:40] <Danato> so quiet
[02:40] <peyam> no
[02:40] <reisio> noo!
[02:40] <reisio> okay maybe
[02:40] <Danato> o.o
[02:40] <reisio> it does seem a little early to be this quiet
[02:40] <reisio> people must be doing nonsense preparing for the season of pain
[02:40] <peyam> it is 03:40 in Stockholm
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> ssh I'm trying to sleep
[02:41] <peyam> sleep is for loosers
[02:41] <Danato> 10:40am in Macau, spent the whole night awake
[02:41] <reisio> yeah, but it's not even late for technophiles where most native english speakers are
[02:41] <reisio> peyam: hear hear
[02:41] <reisio> wilee-nilee: was that a pun? :p
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> yes. ;)
[02:41] <reisio> heh
[02:41] <reisio> dropbear I'm trying to sleep
[02:42] <reisio> doesn't work all the time
[02:42] <Danato> i gave up a while ago
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> If I don;t sleep I go more psychotic
[02:42] <Danato> ill have classes in a few hours
[02:42] <peyam> I am happy with my xubuntu. But by some unknown reason I want to move to a pure xfce dist. I don't know what dist I should choose
[02:42] <reisio> yeah? Well I gave up before then!
[02:43] <reisio> peyam: like a distro that makes it hard to install GNOME & KDE? :p
[02:43] <reisio> I'm not aware of any such insanity
[02:43] <peyam> reisio: You should empty ur brain when you lay down. think about nothing..
[02:43] <Danato> lol its almost 11am here, how did you give up before? :P
[02:43] <reisio> peyam: tall order
[02:43] <reisio> Danato: I gave up before I was born
[02:43]  * reisio wins
[02:43] <Danato> :P
[02:43] <peyam> reisio: No. xfce is good but xubuntu uses some Gnome stuff.
[02:44] <reisio> Xfce uses GNOME stuff
[02:44] <reisio> optionally
[02:44] <Danato> *installing kde again*
[02:44] <reisio> you'd have to use a source based distro or compile it yourself to disable the GNOME stuff
[02:44] <reisio> oddly enought that's exactly what I do :)
[02:44] <reisio> Xfce is crazy lighter without that GNOME insanity
[02:44] <peyam> Debian xfce dosnt do that
[02:44] <Tortex> no idea on the battery thing?
[02:44] <reisio> peyam: pretty sure it does
[02:45] <peyam> Have read that it does not!
[02:46] <peyam> Tortex: M yxubuntu frezes on battery mode. so I use windows or I have then cable plugged in when I use ubuntu
[02:46] <reisio> peyam: maybe if you disable recommends
[02:46] <reisio> but even then I doubt it
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> Tortex, My curiosity is did you have a icon until you tweaked your setup, and does the battery actually not work.
[02:47] <Tortex> hahaha yeah thats exactly what im doing but it would be good to have everything working properly
[02:47] <Cvele91> hello 4 all i need help to instal ubuntu from usb flash device
[02:47] <Tortex> the battery icon was never there
[02:47] <Tortex> and the battery does work
[02:47] <Tortex> it hold up for something like 1 and half hours
[02:48] <xorgnak> Tortex: any luck with the /sys entry?
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> Tortex, Make a second user and see if it is the same and try a live cd/usb and see if it is the same. Also use nicks here.
[02:48] <Danato> one question Tortex, is your bios updated?
[02:48] <Tortex> have try that
[02:48] <Tortex> yup already update the bios
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> !who | Tortex
[02:49] <Danato> and your laptop is a toshiba right?
[02:49] <Tortex> xorgnak sorry what do you mean?
[02:49] <Arrick> Hey all, on ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Terminal Only)  if I have run a cmd such as "aptitude install mysql-server libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql" on a server, how to I remove that?
[02:49] <Tortex> ubottu: thanks! :)
[02:49] <Danato> Tortex, this could be your case https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/703302
[02:50] <xorgnak> Arrick: sudo aptitude remove ...
[02:50] <Arrick> thanks
[02:51] <WeLinuxNow> Help! Every time I restart my Ubuntu machine, I have to go into my nvidia X server settings and reset my primary monitor (dual monitor setup here). Even if I hit apply, and then save, when i reboot all my games start on the wrong monitor. I check the settings, and my primary monitor is no longer marked as my primary. I fixed this before, but since my reformat I haven't been able to fix it again
[02:51] <Tortex> Danato: when i use dmesg | grep batt
[02:52] <Tortex> Danato:  i get this [    0.990842] ACPI Exception: AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT, Evaluating _BIX (20130517/battery-443)
[02:52] <Tortex> i have look to that recommendation also
[02:52] <Tortex> its a no go
[02:54] <Tortex> i think is a difficult thing to fix
[02:54] <Tortex> sadly
[02:55] <Danato> Tortex, maybe somebody else can find you a solution, stick around
[02:56] <Tortex> Danato: thanks danato!
[02:56] <Tortex> and every one to give it a try
[02:57] <Tortex> bye everyone
[02:57] <Danato> Tortex, see ya
[02:58] <yeathatsright> yeathatsright: yo
[02:58] <Danato> my updates are taking much longer than I expected
[02:58] <pero> i've lost my the Unity Webapps extension in Chromium - yet everything seems installed ok - any way to get it back?
[02:59] <yeathatsright> You should definitely switch to Arch ;)
[03:00] <joossee> how do i execute a python script?
[03:00] <reisio> joossee: same as any other script
[03:01] <reisio> ./script if it's executable (chmod +x script), or interpreter script if it isn't (and you for some reason don't want it to be)
[03:01] <reisio> for python the interpreter will invariably be 'python'
[03:01] <pinPoint> so anyone install apache 2.4.x from a ppa?
[03:01] <joossee> ty reisio
[03:01] <pinPoint> yet?
[03:01] <xorgnak> joossee: rm -f script.py
[03:01] <reisio> joossee: probably someone
[03:01] <reisio> xorgnak: wtf :p
[03:01] <Danato> lol
[03:01] <xorgnak> it's a good death for a python script.
[03:02] <somsip> pinPoint: try the deadsnakes ppa. But see !PPA first
[03:02] <xorgnak> or the ever popular rm -fR drupal/*
[03:02] <somsip> pinPoint: ignore that. Looked at apache and saw python...doh
[03:02] <xorgnak> for the php fans.
[03:02] <pinPoint> heh
[03:03] <reisio> to do it respectfully you should use python
[03:04] <xorgnak> to do it respectfully, python should execute itself.
[03:04] <somsip> pinPoint: so...look for ondrej packages but be wary of what other updates it will pull in. I think he now maintains two PPAs - one pulls in an up to date PHP too, and one doesn't. Something like that
[03:07] <natural> thanks again all you helpful people
[03:07] <pero> im on a dell xps laptop, and all my power settings are being ignored - the screen does not do nothing when lid is closed, the screen also doesn't not turn off when inactive and charger is plugged in
[03:08] <xorgnak> pero: what version?
[03:10] <pero> xorgnak: 13.10
[03:10] <alfacard> ****
[03:11] <xorgnak> seems to be quite a few power subsystem issues tonight.
[03:12] <pero> this has been going on for a while - i've always thought i never set it up properly since installing 13.10 but now i double checked and turns out its not the case
[03:12] <xorgnak> pero: cat /proc/acpi/buttoni/button/lid/LID/state
[03:13] <pero> no such file/dir
[03:14] <xorgnak> try tab completing through it.
[03:15] <xorgnak> see if you can find where your lid switch is hiding.
[03:15] <pero> nada
[03:15] <xorgnak> cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state
[03:15] <xorgnak> try that
[03:15] <pero> there was a typo in your path ;)
[03:16] <pero> state:      open
[03:18] <xorgnak> pero: check your power settings.  the switch is recognised, but there's nothing telling the operating system to change the brightness settings.
[03:18] <pero> in System Settings -> Power? done did that
[03:18] <xorgnak> no dice?
[03:19] <pero> When lid closed: Do nothing
[03:19] <pero> but I close my lid and the screen turns off
[03:19] <pero> and you're right, there is no setting to dim the screen but I want to find the one that turns it off after ~5-10min
[03:20] <xorgnak> well I just use screen to trigger my screen saver
[03:20] <xorgnak> does the job.
[03:21] <pero> any idea where the setting that turns the screen off is?
[03:23] <Danato> finally the kde download is done
[03:26] <ki4ro> pero, try here; http://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid
[03:27] <Danato> i can switch my screen off with the keyboard
[03:28] <xorgnak> in my screenrc: blankerprg cmatrix -ab -u2\n idle 300 blanker
[03:28] <Danato> ki4ro, he wants the opposite, so would be there instead of "nothing"?
[03:28] <xorgnak> 5 minutes inactive, it's the matrix.
[03:29] <pero> xorgnak: already tried all that unfortunately
[03:29] <xorgnak> really?  wow.
[03:29] <pero> tried =ignore too
[03:29] <pero> this bug has been alive for ages
[03:29] <xorgnak> are you running screen?
[03:29] <pero> i don't spend that much time in terminal
[03:30] <xorgnak> screen's got to be running for it to work.
[03:30] <pero> wtf? why
[03:31] <xorgnak> that's kinda the point.
[03:31] <xorgnak> you're running a screen blanker.
[03:31] <pero> oh
[03:31] <pero> oops
[03:31] <pero> i got you confused with ki4ro
[03:31] <xorgnak> it blanks your terminal, to keep your old school green on black crt from burning.
[03:31] <pero> ki4ro: already tried all that
[03:32] <ki4ro> pero, Okay...good luck
[03:32] <pero> yeah, xorgnak, that doesn't really help me out - since i don't spend that much time in terminal
[03:32] <nv_> hi! my screen turns off after 10 minutes. i have adjusted power settings and disabled power manager from startup but still, monitor goes into standby after 10mins of idle (AMD Radeon HD4200 based htpc,xubuntu 13.04 amd64, x.org video driver)
[03:33] <xorgnak> yet another power/screen issue
[03:33] <Danato> whats with the power manager today?
[03:33] <xorgnak> everything's also been with the 13 series.
[03:33] <pero> lol nv_
[03:34] <pero> i'm just asking the same thing
[03:34] <sam113101> nv_: it's in the Brightness & Lock settings
[03:34] <nv_> the settings are ignored
[03:34] <Danato> yeah, i jst reinstalled my ubuntu because it was too messy after a power manager issue
[03:34] <robbierob> guys i got some serious issue i need help with who are my boot experts in here?
[03:34] <pero> yes they are
[03:35] <deadmund> I have a .bin file of a disc image from a friend.  There is no .cue how can I mount it?
[03:35] <xorgnak> I'm still pretty solid on 12.04
[03:35] <sam113101> nv_: do they turn off only when you lock your computer?
[03:36] <xorgnak> a .bin? wow. get ye an iso if you've never done this before.  let's not unnecessarily challenge ourselves.
[03:36] <xorgnak> robbierob: what you need?
[03:36] <deadmund> I was kicked but I'm back.  xorgnak I can't ask him to give it to me again for a long time.
[03:36] <deadmund> What is so hard about mounting a .bin ?
[03:36] <robbierob> durring boot i get a super slow response and then often its /dev/disk/by-uuid/5eb21af4    blah blah eror that says dose not exist
[03:37] <reisio> deadmund: some you can just mount as if they were any image
[03:37] <nv_> sam113101,  they turn off after 10 minutes of idle (this is an HTPC, screens are going into standby while watching video
[03:37] <reisio> some you have to work harder
[03:37] <xorgnak> deadmund: is it just a regular old ubuntu image?  nothing special?
[03:37] <robbierob> i tried running boot helper and i got the response page ready for you..
[03:37] <deadmund> xorgnak: It's not an image of ubuntu, it's an image of a game CD
[03:37] <reisio> and some aren't images, but executables :)
[03:37] <deadmund> I'm on KDE fyi
[03:38] <xorgnak> robbierob: does everything eventually mount and boot?
[03:38] <robbierob> no... some times i have to round about go into recover.. select from advance option in grub and boot that way.......boot fixer didnt help
[03:38] <robbierob> no definaetly not ok
[03:39] <xorgnak> deadmund: is it for an emulator?  that's probably going to need to be loaded in some fashion
[03:39] <robbierob> if i leave it alone it wont boot but hang
[03:39] <robbierob> and go into shell mode with the above error
[03:39] <xorgnak> robbierob: standard install?
[03:40] <robbierob> yes i did.....ubuntu studio 13.10 strait standard...
[03:40] <deadmund> xorgnak: It's on old need for speed game that runs in crossover but I need to give crossover .iso images (not .bin images)
[03:40] <nv_> deadmund, i wish you luck. i havent figured out how to get games working in linux as anything but .ISO
[03:40] <deadmund> nv_: mmm thanks
[03:40] <xorgnak> deadmund: bingo.
[03:41] <deadmund> Is there no way to convert a .bin image to a .iso without a cue file?  (google seems to think I need a cue file)
[03:41] <xorgnak> robbierob: encrypted home directory?
[03:41] <robbierob> is says in the error the i am missing stuff...i looked as it was recover mode and it said in a few places that sda was not there but it recovers this and names it sda1
[03:41] <robbierob> no
[03:41] <xorgnak> deadmund: you need a .cue file.
[03:41] <robbierob> i got the boot helper diolog for you...
[03:41] <deadmund> http://extremefx.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/how-to-convert-bin-to-iso-image-whithout-having-cue-file-in-linux/   seems to be a solution
[03:41] <nv_> even in Windows, your pretty much SOL if you dont have the .cue file.
[03:41] <robbierob> paste.ubuntu.com/6419248
[03:42] <Danato> finally kde installed! :D
[03:43] <xorgnak> robbierob: jesus!  boot output looks a whole hell of a lot prettier in your world!
[03:43] <robbierob> what lol.... hahaha
[03:44] <robbierob> thats the out put from boot helper
[03:45] <robbierob> it mentioned that i may need to put the partition of 200mb in the from of the drive and re run boot helper again
[03:46] <xorgnak> robbierob: go for it.  that's no kind of problem I've ever run into.
[03:46] <robbierob> :/     i dont know how lol... and i still have boot issue number one... lol
[03:47] <deadmund_> That link I posted worked.  I just had to create a very simple .cue file as it instructed and run bchunk.  Now ark opens it and recognizes the files inside
[03:47] <deadmund_> vb_ ^^
[03:47] <robbierob> do you got and terminal magic that can help find out what the issue is?
[03:47] <xorgnak> robbierob: my advice, get yourself a 12.04 mini.iso install and learn all about lightweight window managers
[03:48] <robbierob> why pre tell?
[03:48] <xorgnak> deadmund_: good job.
[03:49] <xorgnak> robbierob: 13.10 is an interum release, which means most of the changes they've made are getting tested for the next long term support release.  shit gets broke.  it cuts you.  ouch.
[03:49] <deadmund_> This should really be supported better by KDE / gnome / unity.  It's very straightforward to take an easy guess at the .cue file
[03:49] <robbierob> ahhhh.... k got a link/.
[03:49] <robbierob> ?
[03:50] <deadmund_> robbierob: talking to me?
[03:50] <robbierob> yes sir... do you have a link for it?
[03:51] <deadmund_> http://extremefx.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/how-to-convert-bin-to-iso-image-whithout-having-cue-file-in-linux/
[03:51] <robbierob> no sorry to xorg
[03:51] <deadmund_> I don't have any xorg link sir
[03:51] <robbierob> lol sorry
[03:51] <xorgnak> those bleeding edge releases hurt.
[03:51] <robbierob> xorgnak: do you have a link?
[03:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:52] <xorgnak> robbierob: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[03:53] <Danato> ok since I already have the kde-full installed, will it make a difference if I install the kubuntu-desktop? besides the appearance
[03:53] <robbierob> thank you sweet
[03:53] <xorgnak> robbierob: it'll feel a bit strange, but google's your friend.  take your time, and ask good questions.
[03:54] <robbierob> no in fear of sounding like a dumb ass... what am i to do with this.... just go for it and reinstall another time and hope for the best?
[03:54] <robbierob> ok
[03:54] <xorgnak> indeed.
[03:54] <robbierob> cool thanks
[03:55] <xorgnak> once you get your installation done, then start adding what you need.
[03:55] <ese> oh noooo
[03:56] <Bozza> just checking in to say i have found my print problem
[03:57] <Bozza> wilee-nilee: looks like my black ink cartridge may be defective
[03:57] <Bozza> wilee-nilee: i realised this after a test print on the printer itself
[03:58] <Bozza> wilee-nilee: hopefully the printer is ok though . will need to check this out
[03:58] <Bozza> good night ubuntuers
[03:58] <Danato> afternoon Bozza
[03:58] <jimlong> nite Bozza
[03:59] <Danato> so is there a difference between a kde-full ubuntu desktop and a ubuntu with a kubuntu-desktop?
[03:59] <Danato> besides the visuals
[04:00] <xorgnak> wow. battle of the heavyweights, huh?
[04:00] <dinosrule> Danato: kubuntu-desktop installs the set of packages that Kubuntu wants by default. kde-full installs the Debian-provided KDE metapackage containing all of KDE SC. These sets of packages are different.
[04:00] <sheldonw> anyone know what packages need to be installed for directfb to work under 13.04?  I can't get any providers(image, font) to work.
[04:01] <niel123> ok guys I have made a PTPPD server and I can connect but I cannot connect to any websited
[04:01] <niel123> *websites
[04:01] <niel123> its like well teasing me
[04:02] <xorgnak> HTTPD?
[04:02] <Danato> dinosrule, so i could install both without one interfering with another? or would it overwrite?
[04:02] <niel123> its package name is PPTPD xorgnak
[04:03] <xorgnak> got it.
[04:03] <niel123> ive spent an hour following a tutorial
[04:03] <xorgnak> no luck?
[04:03] <niel123> well I can connect
[04:03] <niel123> just no websites
[04:03] <xorgnak> ah.
[04:03] <dinosrule> Danato: I don't think they conflict, so you should be able to have both.
[04:03] <xorgnak> well good luck.
[04:03] <niel123> lol
[04:05] <Danato> dinosrule, thanks i jst wanted to be sure
[04:06] <yohanes> hello
[04:06] <Danato> but for now i dont see the difference so ill jst stick to ubuntu desktop
[04:06] <Danato> hello yohanes
[04:07] <yohanes> hello
[04:07] <yohanes> donato :)
[04:07] <yohanes> i want to ask something
[04:08] <Danato> is donato a famous person or something like that?
[04:08] <yohanes> who will answer my question?
[04:08] <dinosrule> yohanes: someone who knows the answer after you ask it
[04:08] <Danato> theres always somebody who calls me donato everywhere i go lol
[04:08] <xorgnak> yohanes: please take a number from the wall and take a seat in the lobby
[04:08] <yohanes> lol
[04:08] <yohanes> okey
[04:08] <yohanes> how about installing gnome 3.10 in ubuntu 13.10
[04:09] <Danato> *pulls a seat to yohanes
[04:09] <yohanes> is it stable?
[04:09] <yohanes> or??
[04:09] <xorgnak> yohanes: you could do that.
[04:09] <yohanes> stable?
[04:09] <xorgnak> yohanes: stable?\
[04:09] <yohanes> i am newbie guys
[04:10] <Tex_Nick> 13.10 gnome fallback/flashback ... when attempting to open a link in XChat ... firefox opens a new window, with my home page (google.com) ... also happens with LibreOffice Calc hyperlinks
[04:10] <yohanes> and i dont know much about it
[04:10] <dinosrule> yohanes: the version of GNOME in the Ubuntu 13.10 repositories is 3.8.4.
[04:10] <xangua> !nounity | yohanes
[04:10] <xorgnak> yohanes: grab a stock ubuntu 13.10 desktop .iso and dig in.
[04:11] <yohanes> oh okey,
[04:11] <jgcampbell300> hi ... i need to know how to compress a directory with all subdirectorys and files ... so i can backup everythihng from ./program into one file like tar.gz  or something like that
[04:11] <yohanes> i see a repository which is not official
[04:12] <xorgnak> !dwm
[04:12] <xorgnak> !wmii
[04:12] <xorgnak> !screen
[04:12] <xorgnak> !screen | yohanes
[04:12] <Nach0z> tmux too
[04:12] <Nach0z> tmux is awesome
[04:12] <dinosrule> jgcampbell300: tar -caf archivename.tar.gz ./program/, where ./program/ is the directory to compress
[04:12] <xorgnak> !tmux | yohanes
[04:12] <xorgnak> maybe not.
[04:12] <zykotick9> xorgnak: personally, i'd go with Nach0z's tmux suggestion, over screen YMMV
[04:13] <jgcampbell300> dinosrule, and this would get everything from ./program/ down ?
[04:13] <dinosrule> jgcampbell300: tar is recursive by default, yes
[04:13] <jgcampbell300> dinosrule, oh cool ... thanks much
[04:13] <xorgnak> zykotick9: screen always seems to work for me
[04:13] <yohanes> i love ubuntu
[04:13] <yohanes> :)
[04:13] <xorgnak> how about dvtm
[04:14] <xorgnak> that's a particular favorite of mine.
[04:14] <yohanes> see you bro
[04:14] <xorgnak> good luck out there
[04:26] <Danato> I'm annoying and I know it :D
[04:29] <maja> NOW WHAT
[04:29] <maja> game over to the max?
[04:30] <Danato> o.o
[04:32] <maja> pass is laptop
[04:33] <jgcampbell300> I would like to change a program i get from github to a diffrent fork ... is there a way i can just change an address some where or do i have to compleatly uninstall and reinstall ?
[04:36] <Danato> jgcampbell300: stab the program with the fork in the github and throw it somewhere else :P
[04:37] <jgcampbell300> Danato, thanks much ... just to be sure i read that right ... the command i need to lookup is stab ?
[04:38] <Danato> jgcampbell300: im not sure stab is still supported, but if it doesnt work you can try pierce or shoot
[04:40] <ki4ro> test
[04:41] <Danato> ki4ro: it ddnt work
[04:41] <ki4ro> Danato, Yeah it did...playing with a color theme on XCHAT
[04:42] <Danato> ki4ro: I cant see anything youre typing
[04:42] <ki4ro> Danato, Oh no
[04:43] <ki4ro> Danato, I bet if I said something nasty about you that you would see it LOL
[04:44] <Qu310> Does anyone know how i might be able to add saucy repo to 12.04.3? so i can install some packages from it (I don't want to upgrade the whole distro)
[04:44] <Danato> ki4ro: my eyes are very innocent and pure, i dont see nasty things. look o.o
[04:44] <jgcampbell300> Danato, lol htanks
[04:44] <ki4ro> Danato, O I C
[04:44] <zykotick9> Qu310: mixing releases, will lead to tears... all i'm sayin'
[04:45] <Qu310> zykotick9: just trying to install latest version of a particular package
[04:45] <ki4ro> Danato, U R way too much fun to be on this channel...everyone here is very serious and very Ubuntu only
[04:45] <Qu310> zykotick9: thought there might be an easier way then just geting the .deb files
[04:45] <zykotick9> Qu310: i have no further comments.  do what YOU want.
[04:45] <Qu310> zykotick9: haha
[04:45] <zykotick9> !ppa | Qu310
[04:46] <zykotick9> Qu310: check above
[04:46] <Danato> ki4ro: Im jst bored :P
[04:46] <Danato> ki4ro: but thanks
[04:46] <ObrienDave> Qu310, good luck with that. let us know how it goes for you ;)
[04:46] <Qu310> zykotick9: cheers
[04:49] <fizk_> I just upgraded to ubuntu 13.10 and I can't iscsi boot because initramfs is missing iscsistart
[04:49] <fizk_> it use to be available before the upgrade
[04:49] <fizk_> how can I get iscsistart into initramfs?
[04:53] <phong_> hi guys, anyone know what software i can transfer files from my pc to iphone 5?
[04:53] <phong_> any file
[04:54] <phong_> anyone?
[04:54] <Paulus68_1> phong_ dropbox may do the trick
[04:54] <xangua> iphones have bluetooth right¿ you can use that :)
[04:54] <cfhowlett> phong_, ubuntuone for the iphone
[04:54] <phong_> i dont want dropbox
[04:55] <phong_> anything relate to service from outthere i dont want it
[04:55] <phong_> i don't want to store any files to any site
[04:55] <phong_> i dont trust no one
[04:55] <cfhowlett> phong_, bluetooth
[04:55] <phong_> i hate dropbox anyway
[04:55] <phong_> why would I want to store my stuff to there server?
[04:56] <phong_> even free email service like yahoo, gmail hotmail..when you delete your mails..i dont think it is really delete..they may have trigger it delete so that you think it is delete and hide from displaying...
[04:57] <Danato> theres a software called ifile that you can use
[04:57] <cfhowlett> phong_, we get it.  bluetooth.
[04:57] <Paulus68_1> phong_ http://www.webupd8.org/2009/09/mount-iphone-ipod-touch-in-ubuntu-how.html
[04:57] <phong_> cfhowlett, thanks for understanding :)
[04:57] <Paulus68_1> phong_ transfert through wifi
[04:57] <Danato> iphone doesnt have bluetooth
[04:58] <cfhowlett> Danato, but my nexus 4 does ... :)
[04:58] <Danato> it comes with air..... something
[04:58] <Danato> cfhowlett: my galaxy s3 too :)
[04:58] <ObrienDave> airdroid LOL
[04:58] <cfhowlett> Danato, airdrop
[04:59] <Danato> any phone made in the last 10 years has bluetooth, but apple thinks they are too good for that
[04:59] <ObrienDave> and that surprises you because.......???
[04:59] <phong_> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/jonabeck/ppa/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[05:00] <technmom> hello I need to change my account name on ubuntu 12.04 I have read how to do that but am worried about the ownership of my files
[05:00] <Danato> ObrienDave: it jst sucks, im saying that coz i also own 2 ipads and an ipod, not because im hating on them
[05:00] <xangua> phong_: looks like there are no packages aviable in that repository for saucy
[05:00] <phong_> i did this: sudo apt-get install ifuse
[05:01] <phong_> how to test ifuse?
[05:01] <cfhowlett> !ifuse
[05:01] <cfhowlett> !info ifuse
[05:01] <phong_> The device “Phong’s iPhone” is locked. Enter the passcode on the device and click “Try again”.
[05:01] <phong_> oh
[05:01] <cfhowlett> phong_, ...
[05:01] <phong_> i got it
[05:02] <phong_> the screen is locked lol
[05:02] <cfhowlett> phong_, airdroid also works wonders and requires no install of any kind
[05:02] <cfhowlett> phong_, D'oh!  sorry!  android only!
[05:02] <ObrienDave> Danato, then why, oh why, do you keep buying them? I refuse to buy anything Apple just because ;))
[05:03] <phong_> wait why i plug my iphone5 to pc and always pop up: "trsut this computer......" i click trust
[05:03] <phong_> it always pop up same thing
[05:03] <zykotick9> technmom: fyi, userNAMES don't mean much, it's the userID that determines ownership!  are you sure you need to change your username?
[05:03] <phong_> i did somethign wrong?
[05:03] <cfhowlett> phong_, safety and security feature.
[05:03] <phong_> the iphone 5 keep pop up message:   trust this computer?
[05:04] <phong_> i click Trust and it always ask again
[05:04] <phong_> what can i do?
[05:04] <cfhowlett> phong_, sounds like you need to talk to apple
[05:04] <cfhowlett> phong_, not an ubuntu issue
[05:04] <phong_> oh
[05:04] <phong_> so no way to do it?
[05:04] <phong_> or any setting on iphone to do it?
[05:04] <Danato> ObrienDave: well imho their tablets are still the best in regards to the number and quality of apps available, and the ipod... has no competition yet
[05:05] <Danato> wouldnt buy an iphone though
[05:05] <ObrienDave> you're entitled to your opinion ;))
[05:05] <phong_> cfhowlett, look at this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/336112/ios-7-iphone-wont-connect
[05:05] <phong_> that is somewhat my issue
[05:06] <Danato> but im done with apple, I cant use my own device properly without feeling squeezed in loads of walls, an ipad is not worth it without being jailbroken
[05:07] <Danato> and even jailbroken its never really free
[05:07] <phong_> darm it
[05:07] <phong_> start to hate apple now
[05:07] <phong_> why it is so hard to just freaking get afile into it
[05:07] <phong_> unlike the android so easy
[05:08] <phong_> and flexible
[05:08] <Danato> exactly thats my point
[05:09] <phong_> so now my iphone is became useless darm it
[05:09] <phong_> can't even get files to it
[05:09] <xangua> welcome to apple
[05:09] <Danato> you can use ifile, but im not sure if you have to be jailbroken
[05:09] <Danato> its been a long time i dont use my idevices lol
[05:10] <phong_> darm it
[05:10] <phong_> crying
[05:10] <phong_> i want to call apple and curse out of them
[05:10] <phong_> darm it,
[05:10] <cfhowlett> phong_, useless?  hey remember that iphone photo streams and all that?  get the link, download to computer
[05:11] <cfhowlett> phong_, and next time, consider a nexus/android phone
[05:11] <technmom> zykotick9: yes I really need to I'm having trouble with my identity between systems
[05:11] <Danato> phong_: yes you have to be jailbroken http://cydia.saurik.com/package/eu.heinelt.ifile
[05:11] <Hilikus> once i have a bootchart, how can i interpret it to know what's taking most time and optimize my bootup time?
[05:11] <phong_> i have note 2
[05:11] <phong_> i try to put movie for my wife to see
[05:11] <phong_> and i dont want to get thru the wifi
[05:11] <phong_> still slow to transfer 2gb of file
[05:12] <phong_> I rather transfer thru pc
[05:12] <xangua> !enter | phong_
[05:12] <cfhowlett> phong_, get car.  drive to apple store.  borrow computer.  transfer to usb.  problem solved.
[05:14] <zykotick9> technmom: it's not the Username, but the UserID that needs to match between systems!!!  assuming NFS/POSIX situtations... for anything Windows/Samba I have NO Clue!
[05:14] <zykotick9> technmom: i use to always give "zykotick9" the first user 1000 on all my systems, for that reason.
[05:15] <zykotick9> s/i use to always/i always/
[05:15] <technmom> zykotick9: its not really a system but a repository that I use and when I update I need to match the names
[05:16] <zykotick9> technmom: interesting... back to, I have no idea.  best of luck.
[05:16] <technmom> well all I needed to know is that I will still own my files
[05:17] <zykotick9> technmom: i wouldn't know, i've never "changed" the name of a user, only created new and copied files (then changed ownership)
[05:19] <technmom> zykotick9: thanks anyway sounds like I should be okay
[05:19] <zykotick9> technmom: advise if i may, have another use with sudo rights, before doing anything!
[05:20] <technmom> k
[05:21] <HumT_> What is the way to clone my current ubuntu setup?  will remastersys still work on 13.10?
[05:22] <cfhowlett> HumT_, remastersys is no longer maintained
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> HumT_, For cloning that saves the mbr I use clonezilla.
[05:23] <HumT_> wilee-nilee:  sounds interesting.  my purpose would be for pxeboot multiple copies of this installation
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> HumT_, I know nothing about pxeboot, but clonzilla is for bulk installations.
[05:24] <HumT_> wilee-nilee: k ty
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> or deos anyway
[05:24] <HumT_> i will check it out
[05:25] <HumT_> wilee-nilee: much thanks.  answer for pxeboot and clonezilla is here http://clonezilla.org/livepxe.php
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> HumT_, Thanks I have no use for it and a brain the size of a walnut, so well you know. ;)
[05:26] <jmgk> hi wilee-nilee
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> hi
[05:29] <Danato> What do you guys use to burn dvds on linux? imgburn is not available for linux unfortunately
[05:30] <amagee> what's the easiest way to write a script that stops an upstart job but doesn't error if the job isn't running?
[05:30] <xangua> Danato: ubuntu comes with brasero
[05:31] <Danato> xangua: is it reliable enough?
[05:31] <cfhowlett> Danato, brasero does the job
[05:31] <zykotick9> amagee: find a test for the upstart job - then "if TEST... else foo"
[05:32] <amagee> yeah, my question is what's the appropriate test, or if there's a way to get the stop command to just ignore the job not running
[05:32] <Danato> cfhowlett: nice. thanks guys
[05:35] <redvil> su: Authentication failure....need help!
[05:35] <dinosrule> redvil: use sudo?
[05:35] <zykotick9> !notroot | redvil
[05:36] <zykotick9> !noroot | redvil
[05:36] <sam113101> sudo -i
[05:37] <redvil> im trying to install a firmware..and my linux cli knowledge is minimal
[05:37] <sam113101> redvil: use "sudo -i" instead of su
[05:37] <zykotick9> redvil: as dinosrule said, use sudo.  what command needs root privs?
[05:37] <redvil> i even installed xChat so that i can get quick response..
[05:37] <cfhowlett> redvil, stop typing.  read the responses you are getting.
[05:38] <redvil> sure cf..sorry for the lag
[05:41] <excognac> hi all
[05:42] <kusumahdilaga> hii
[05:43] <Danato> excognac: hi :)
[05:43] <excognac> anybody knows what file system uses OSx? can osx read an of Ext?
[05:44] <dinosrule> excognac: HFS+, not by default
[05:45] <excognac> dinosrule: linux can read that right?
[05:45] <pleanbean> Hello. I'm having some issues with Ubuntu 13.04. After grub, I boot into a black screen with a blinking cursor. I can press ctrl+alt+f1-6 to enter the console, and entering"sudo service lightdm --full-restart"
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | pleanbean
[05:46] <dinosrule> excognac: read or read/write?
[05:46] <pleanbean> I tried nomodeset, and yes it does allow me to boot to the login screen. However, it restricts me to 1280x900 or something thats much smaller than what my display can go to.
[05:46] <excognac> dinosrule: r-w and create it with mkfs?
[05:46] <pleanbean> And I cannot set it to any larger resolution
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, check additional drivers, graphic drivers in general. Post that hardware if needed.
[05:47] <pleanbean> entering "sudo service lightdm --full-restart" boots me to the login screen too, but I don't want to have to do that ever time.
[05:47] <zykotick9> pleanbean: what graphics card/driver are you using?
[05:47] <pleanbean> I'm using a Radeon HD6950
[05:47] <pleanbean> Let me check the driver
[05:47] <pleanbean> Can I check the driver via console?
[05:47] <dinosrule> excognac: Linux has support for read/write HFS+ with some limitations, most notably that journaling has to be turned off on the HFS+ partition. The "hfsprogs" package appears to contain mkfs.hfs, but I don't know how well it works.
[05:48] <zykotick9> fyi not necessary for me!  best of luck - i can't help.
[05:48] <dinosrule> pleanbean: open /var/log/Xorg.0.log, check for a bunch of lines starting with 'radeon' or 'fglrx'.
[05:48] <dinosrule> pleanbean: radeon is the open-source driver, fglrx is the ATI Catalyst (closed-source) one.
[05:50] <pleanbean> dinosrule, I see lines with both radeon and fglrx
[05:51] <pleanbean> fglrx failed to load (module does not exist)
[05:52] <Longship> i'm looking for some help installing zentyal server, which i believe is based off ubuntu.  The question I have is related to install errors when installing via bootable usb.  It keeps wanting to go back to the cdrom.  I've seen posts where others have tried installing ubuntu server and have seen this same error.  any thought?
[05:52] <Panther_Modern> Anyone alive tonight?
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> barely
[05:53] <JordanJ2> Hi Panther
[05:53] <pleanbean> dinosrule, where do I go from here?
[05:54] <dinosrule> pleanbean: either set up fglrx fully or remove it fully. I don't use fglrx, so you'll have to wait for someone who does, unfortunately.
[05:55] <Longship> anyone run into install issues with server and usb?
[05:55] <Biafra> pleanbean, did you back up and push out an xorg config?
[05:55] <pleanbean> Biafra, no, I don't know how to do that
[05:55] <cliff> Hello
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> Longship: best is to shoot your specific issue in channel
[05:56] <Longship> i'm looking for some help installing zentyal server, which i believe is based off ubuntu.  The question I have is related to install errors when installing via bootable usb.  It keeps wanting to go back to the cdrom.  I've seen posts where others have tried installing ubuntu server and have seen this same error.  any thought?
[05:56] <dinosrule> lotuspsychje: they already did
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> dinosrule: oh my bad, early morning :p
[05:56] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: don't support, or encourage support, for "based on ubuntu" in #ubuntu
[05:56] <cliff> I am running Ubuntu 12.04LTS and am trying to mount my Iphone 5GS but am recieving the error:
[05:56] <cliff> DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: what do you mean by that?
[05:57] <excognac> dinosrule: thanks mate. What would would you recommend as files system on external hd which could be fastest to copy large files on both (k)ubuntu and osx (mainly avid and video files? (I generally don't neeed to touch them under linux just manage their storage)
[05:57] <wilee-nilee> Longship, You might try #zentyal
[05:57] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: Longship isn't using ubuntu (or a supported spin)
[05:57] <ObrienDave> Longship, I don't know the server very well but that seems to be something like software sources having the CD checked
[05:57] <stumpedwithwirel> alright I've got a stumper. I have an asus usb-n13 with ralink chipset (rt3072).  I went the official website for asus and downloaded the driver.  It refuses to compile.
[05:57] <Longship> i did check #zentyal but that channel is not active at all
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: oh ok
[05:58] <cliff> My phone prompts me to It starts to tell me that the phone is locked. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this sort of thing?
[05:58] <Biafra> pleanbean, run the following and reboot: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old && sudo aticonfig --initial
[05:58] <dinosrule> excognac: I'm not sure, to be honest. OS X doesn't support many filesystems other than HFS+ and FAT32 (which won't work because of file size), so you might want to go with HFS+ and try to avoid writes from Linux.
[05:59] <Biafra> pleanbean, this will backup xorg.conf if it's there, then run the utility to push out an xorg.conf that works with fglrx
[05:59] <pleanbean> Biafra, rebooting now
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> stumpedwithwirel: your ubuntu version?
[05:59] <stumpedwithwirel> 12.04
[05:59] <Luac> Hey there, is this the right channel for Juju issues?
[05:59] <zykotick9> Biafra: i hope your nick isn't based on Jello... <don't reply>
[06:00] <pleanbean> Biafra, what could have caused this issue?
[06:00] <excognac> dinosrule: still thanks bro, I'll dig around hfs+ then
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> hehe are we not men
[06:00] <ObrienDave> we are DEVO
[06:00] <stumpedwithwirel> lotuspsyche: 12.04.3 to be exact.
[06:00] <pleanbean> Biafra, unfortunately I'm still booting to the black screen with blinking cursor
[06:01] <Biafra> pleanbean, Hmmm.... try adding nomodeset to the kernel options at boottime
[06:01] <dinosrule> Biafra: they already did, as mentioned earlier
[06:01] <pleanbean> Biafra, I tried that. It lets me boot normally, but my display resolution is much smaller than it should be
[06:01] <xangua> Luac: #juju
[06:02] <Ben64> nomodeset and the desktop resolution are NOT related
[06:02] <Luac> thank yiu
[06:02] <pleanbean> Ben64, whenever I add nomodeset as a boot param, my screen resolution is much smaller
[06:03] <Ben64> smaller than a blinking cursor?
[06:03] <zykotick9> Ben64: ahhhh, technically if you use the grub-keep (or similar option), they kinda are... but that's an extreme case...
[06:03] <Biafra> pleanbean, you should be able to adjust that either in the display properties panel or via Catalyst Control Center
[06:03] <pleanbean> Biafra, I should. But the maximum selectable resolution is smaller than normal.
[06:03] <Ben64> thats a different problem
[06:04] <Biafra> pleanbean, what AMD gpu do you use?
[06:04] <pleanbean> Radeon HD6950
[06:06] <Biafra> pleanbean, single or crossfire?
[06:06] <pleanbean> single
[06:06] <stumpedwithwirel> crossfire == no opencl :(
[06:07] <wolfgang_> I Would like to know how to get dodge windows in ubuntu 13.10?
[06:07] <reisio> wolfgang_: what's dodge windows, again?
[06:08] <wolfgang_> reisio It makes it so that when you maximise a windows the launcher hides.
[06:09] <Biafra> pleanbean, okay... we may need to purge and reinstall...
[06:09] <reisio> wolfgang_: used to do that by default?
[06:09] <wolfgang_> reisio, What do you mean?
[06:10] <Biafra> follow section 2.1 of the ATI BinaryDriverHowto in the wiki
[06:11] <Biafra> !radeon | pleanbean
[06:11] <Biafra> the link to the wiki is in the wiki article above
[06:11] <Biafra> anyway
[06:12] <pero> where is the setting that dims and turns off my screen after a period of time?
[06:12] <wolfgang_> reisio: the option isnt there by default in ccsm.
[06:12] <stumpedwithwirel> does anyone have experience with the asus usb-n13 wifi adapter?
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> stumpedwithwirel, Lots of plug and work usb wifi, I would get one.
[06:14] <pero> actually nevermind that - in what package is the brightness & lock settings located?
[06:14] <stumpedwithwirel> that would be too easy!
[06:15] <wilee-nilee> stumpedwithwirel, Yeah I know, so what's wrong with the internal wifi?
[06:15] <stumpedwithwirel> its a desktop
[06:15] <wilee-nilee> ah
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> !info compiz-plugins-extra | wolfgang_
[06:16] <wolfgang_> lotuspsychje: I have the extra plugins...
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> wolfgang_: no entry for dodge in ccsm them?
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> stumpedwithwirel, Not sure if this helps, but I have 32 foot ethernet going to my tv, rather cheap, wifi can be easily cracked/captured wpa or not so not inherently safe.
[06:17] <stumpedwithwirel> yes, i know, but I had this working in 11.10
[06:17] <pleanbean> Ok, fuck. I went into my Additional Drivers panel  in the Software Center, and changed my Driver to fglrx. Then I rebooted, and its telling me that it cannot mount /boot/efi
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> stumpedwithwirel: many usb devices also work out of the box on 13.04 where not default on 12.04
[06:17] <wolfgang_> lotuspsychje: Its not there, and I tried the 12.04-13.04 fix to get it, but in 13.10 It isnt there even after adding the ppa and upgrading the system.
[06:18] <stumpedwithwirel> I tried it in 13.04, no dice
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> !language | pleanbean
[06:19] <codeperl> hello everyone.
[06:20] <debasis> hello alexa
[06:20] <codeperl> I need to change all directory-subdirectory permission except one subdirectory in a command. Is it possible?
[06:20] <debasis> hello all
[06:21] <debasis> im new in ubuntu
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> stumpedwithwirel: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/159178/kernel-upgrade-breaks-asus-usb-n13-wifi-card-ubuntu-12-04
[06:21] <debasis> i need some help....how can i do from one present directory to another directory?
[06:22] <pleanbean> Now I'm just booting to a purple screen
[06:22] <clifferaa> does somebody achieved to run psi-plus with ubuntu 13.10. and otr plugin? it fails at me (perhaps because of libotr5)
[06:23] <reisio> debasis: cd another/directory
[06:23] <pleanbean> Can anyone help? I'm stuck at a purple screen
[06:23] <wolfgang_> reisio: do you have any idea?
[06:23] <debasis> reisio...i am asking how to go backward
[06:23] <stumpedwithwirel> I get this error: http://pastebin.com/Xhv5U8my
[06:24] <reisio> debasis: cd -
[06:24] <reisio> debasis: or cd ../ goes up a dir
[06:25] <xrosex> Does anyone know how to get wacom CTE-650 cursor left mouse and right mouse button working ?
[06:26] <reisio> xrosex: what do they do now?
[06:27] <xrosex> reisio: at the moment only the mouse movement is working , I don't care about the extra buttons on the top of the CTE-650 but I would like my mouse to work since my other mouse is very old and has now died ;<
[06:28] <reisio> mice are like $10?
[06:28] <xrosex> reisio: yes but I have no job and my parents don't want to help me out I'll ask my dad today but I would like to be able to use my computer atm
[06:28] <fir3bug> hi
[06:28] <pleanbean> Biafra, I'm worse off than before
[06:28] <xrosex> reisio: I was forced to use a very old mac mouse with no right click  -__-
[06:28] <reisio> xrosex: heh
[06:29] <fir3bug> can anyone tell me, where to start in looking for a job in linux and what skills to focus on??
[06:29] <wolfgang_> reisio: do you have any idea?
[06:29] <fir3bug> or what certs to get.. and what to work on to show employers..
[06:29] <reisio> wolfgang_: about?
[06:29] <wolfgang_> reisio: getting dodge windows.
[06:29] <reisio> fir3bug: you really want to work for someone else?
[06:29] <xrosex> fir3bug: depends on what your passions and interests are and your dream is?
[06:30] <debasis> Any one plz tell me...why linux is asking password to install a software?Window is not doing that.Then why Linux is doing so?
[06:30] <fir3bug> reisio: i need money, what do u sugest?
[06:30] <Ben64> !ot | fir3bug
[06:30] <reisio> Ben64: reducing your costs
[06:30] <reisio> whoops
[06:30] <Biafra> pleanbean, ooook.... well, you may have to use the manual install instructions
[06:30] <reisio> wrong person
[06:30] <xrosex> reisio: do you know how to help
[06:31] <fir3bug> reisio: :p
[06:31] <reisio> xrosex: so the buttons do nothing?
[06:31] <pleanbean> Biafra, I regressed. I now cannot even boot or get to a console. After grub I boot straight to a purple screen
[06:31] <ObrienDave> debasis, that is a normal security function of Linux
[06:31] <xrosex> reisio: aboslutely nothing but they work on login but not when it goes into the session cinnamon might I add :>
[06:31] <Biafra> pleanbean, guess you're stuck with nuke and reinstall
[06:32] <reisio> xrosex: ah, interesting
[06:32] <Biafra> pleanbean, not the most acceptable solution, but next time, use the Hardware Drivers manager
[06:32] <reisio> xrosex: what does xinput --list say?
[06:32] <xrosex> reisio: I'll give it a shot in terminal
[06:32] <pleanbean> Biafra, I used the Hardware Drivers manager
[06:33] <Biafra> pleanbean, or be satisfied with the open-source radeon drivers
[06:33] <wolfgang_> reisio: getting dodge windows feature for the launcher.
[06:33] <pleanbean> Biafra, it took me a week just to get ubuntu running on my machine
[06:33] <xrosex> reisio: thanks to mozzila firefox copy and paste feature wala http://pastebin.com/JN3bgLui
[06:34] <Biafra> pleanbean, ... Good. You should have it back up and running in a couple days
[06:35] <Biafra> pleanbean, As for your card,... it's either an issue that AMD will have to resolve or it's a hardware issue on your end.
[06:35] <reisio> xrosex: and this?: for i in `xinput --list | perl -pe 's/^.*?id=(.).*/\1/g'`; do xinput -list-props "$i"; done | grep -i enabled
[06:36] <reisio> wolfgang_: that something older versions of Unity did?
[06:36] <xrosex> reisio: thank christ I do programming or I would have no clue what the hell any of that ment lol
[06:36] <reisio> :p
[06:36] <reisio> it sends all your credit card passwords to me
[06:36] <xrosex> reisio:might bastard lol
[06:36] <reisio> I think there's a better way to query with xinput, I just can't be arsed ATM
[06:36] <wolfgang_> reisio: Yes, and in 12.04-13.04 there was a way to get it, but I tried it in 13.10 but it wouldnt work.
[06:37] <reisio> wolfgang_: alright, did you check if launchpad has an open bug on it?
[06:37] <wolfgang_> reisio: No.
[06:37] <xrosex> reisio: here you go --> http://pastebin.com/jRRzfDEc
[06:37] <xrosex> : )
[06:37] <Jebus> My update manager is messed up, there is an red ! at the top right hand corner of my laptop and when I click it, the update manager pops up with an error, are there any solutions to this problem?
[06:38] <reisio> xrosex: so it's not disabled
[06:38] <xrosex> reisio: that sounds good :>
[06:39] <reisio> well that it works at some point means it's only a simple misconfiguration somewhere
[06:39] <reisio> just have to find out where
[06:39] <xrosex> reisio: I'm kinda knew to linux ;<
[06:39] <wolfgang_> reisio: how would I do that?
[06:40] <reisio> xrosex: simple deductive reasoning :p
[06:40] <reisio> wolfgang_: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22dodge%22%20site%3Alaunchpad.net
[06:40] <xrosex> that is not fun at all :<
[06:40] <zykotick9> Jebus: from terminal see what "sudo apt-get -f install" does.  if that works, does "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" suggest some updates?
[06:40] <reisio> looks like there's plenty about it
[06:40] <reisio> 4-5 results down for me
[06:42] <reisio> xrosex: so it works... at the login screen?
[06:42] <xrosex> reisio: yep!
[06:42] <reisio> okay, must just be GNOME's own mouse stuff getting in the way
[06:42] <reisio> xrosex: go into the menu and find that preferences dialog
[06:43] <xrosex> reisio: sweet :D
[06:43] <reisio> ten'll get you twenty there'll be some 'wacom' thing you can select/enable
[06:43] <duoi> hi all. would anyone happen to have experience debugging openvpn?
[06:44] <xrosex> reisio: I don't see any wacom control panel I must say I'm using Linux mint which is literally ubuntu but just abit more elegant
[06:44] <reisio> mmm, shouldn't have said that
[06:44] <cfhowlett> !mint
[06:44] <xrosex> OHHHH MY GOD I flipping hate technology with a passion
[06:45] <wolfgang_> reisio: Im confused by the purpose of that post, they just discuss it, they dont say anything about it being there or not.
[06:45] <reisio> you probably could've earned $10 by now if you hadn't been on IRC :)
[06:45] <reisio> wolfgang_: which post?
[06:45] <wolfgang_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/930148
[06:45] <reisio> xrosex: y'know what else is handy (for $10 purchases, but not in general): credit cards
[06:46] <cfhowlett> xrosex, pencil, paper and paint still function
[06:46] <reisio> wolfgang_: I dare say google gave more than that alone
[06:46] <xrosex> I loathe the designers of operating systems and programming languages I really do
[06:46] <reisio> you can still get authentic mice, too
[06:46] <reisio> with enough cheese
[06:46] <reisio> xrosex: or desktop environments, in this situation
[06:46] <xrosex> and IRC really sticks a right sword up your ass
[06:47] <xrosex> with there retarded wait times
[06:47] <cfhowlett> !language|xrosex,
[06:47] <reisio> in particular, desktop environments meant to copy Mac OS, whose maintainers gave up and switched to Mac OS, proving all their years' of work a waste of time :p
[06:47] <xrosex> hmm
[06:48] <wolfgang_> resisio: Im just not seeing it.
[06:48] <xrosex> mainly it's people who enforce hardwork it in there designs who I wish would rot
[06:49] <xrosex> life is ment to be fun not a circus crowd
[06:51] <xrosex> fuck it I'll just virtual box into windows then do that passthrough xce thing and just use windows I'll be moving away from linux because of lack of intelligent programmers capable of creating proper drivers that function out of the box
[06:51] <reisio> wolfgang_: https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg07665.html
[06:51] <xrosex> bye
[06:52] <amritanshu_RnD> can anyone tell about the password for ubuntu cloud image obtained from http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/precise/current/
[06:53] <reisio> wolfgang_: so you might have to install a specific compiz package set
[06:53] <wolfgang_> reisio: ccsm no longer can do that though.
[06:53] <reisio> wolfgang_: so you might have to install a specific compiz package set
[06:53] <wolfgang_> reisio: what package then?
[06:53] <reisio> older ccsm
[06:53] <reisio> (and compiz, no doubt)
[06:53] <Jebus> Thank you zykotick9
[06:54] <zykotick9> Jebus: glad to help
[06:55] <Jebus> :)
[06:56] <wolfgang_> reisio: How do I get older ccsm?
[06:56] <reisio> I'm afraid if you can't figure that out mostly on your own, then figuring it out won't help you much
[06:56] <reisio> the question is easily the most important part, though, now you just need an answer
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:57] <reisio> whoo lag
[07:03] <niel123> so I can connect to my apache web server with my ip but no one else can it is port forwarded
[07:03] <niel123> I can connect through my regular ip not local
[07:13] <helmut_> hi
[07:13] <wolfgang_> Where is the wallpaper folder located?
[07:14] <cfhowlett> /usr/share/backdrops
[07:14] <cfhowlett> *backgrounds*
[07:15] <cfhowlett> wolfgang_, plus there's another which I can't seem to locate
[07:15] <ObrienDave> oh geez, had some there I didn't even know about LOL
[07:16]  * zykotick9 doesn't have a /usr/share/backdrops or backgrounds - but isn't on ubuntu...  cfhowlett does your irc client have tab completion of paths?  what if you add a space, then path?
[07:21] <xorgnak___> :SYN
[07:23] <xorgnak___> :SYN
[07:23] <Ben64> xorgnak__: stop that
[07:25] <xorgnak___> :SYN
[07:29] <xorgnak___> :SYN
[07:30] <xorgnak___> :SYN
[07:31] <junktext> xorgnak___ must have a broken keep-alive script.
[07:31] <ObrienDave> *whistles* it's getting to be full moon time ;)
[07:31] <linux_clown> Anybody have the Winter theme for Cairo Dock?
[07:31] <linux_clown> Can't seem to find it and it is not on the defaults any more.
[07:32] <xorgnak> junktext: actually it's a little ii bot that scrapes news, weather, and conversations from around freenode and displays it on an old tower in the office.
[07:32] <xorgnak> junktext: helps us all keep up with each other.
[07:32] <Ben64> xorgnak: well stop spamming the channel with it
[07:33] <xorgnak> slow night?
[07:34] <ObrienDave> oh, a "who's playing on IRC and NOT working" ii bot
[07:34] <Ben64> xorgnak: doesn't matter, we don't need a bot joining and disconnecting, only saying :SYN
[07:35] <Tex_Nick> xorgnak: a good way to get banned from this chan
[07:35] <Tex_Nick> too late
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> i tryed to connect a wifi repeater with eth cable from ubuntu 13.04 recently, but could not connect http://192.168.10.1, disabled wifi connection awell but kept searching for a network
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> maybe bacuse this device is not really a network?
[07:46] <dannymichel> I don't know how to explain it. My sound seems lower and more treble-like. Anything i can do to trouble-shoot this?
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> !sound | dannymichel
[07:52] <Nece228> hi, is murrine engine available for gtk 3?
[07:54] <ObrienDave> dannymichel, there are several equalizers available in the repos
[07:55] <dannymichel> thanks
[08:03] <fakethesickness> Hi! I installed the 331.20 Nvidia drivers, I rebooted and I found myself at a black screen with a white cursor type thing blinking in the top left of my screen. It won't let me use ctrl+alt+f1 to enter into console. I've tried loading up a live cd and rm'ing the xorg.conf file and that didn't do anything. Any ideas?
[08:04] <jrib> fakethesickness: i'm leaving but you should say how you installed the drivers
[08:04] <fakethesickness> jrib: Using this: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-nvidia-331-20-on-linux-systems/
[08:05] <fakethesickness> I also did make sure that I didn't have any older nvidia drivers installed before doing this.
[08:17] <oisa> Is anyone familiar with installing Ubuntu on a recent Macbook Pro, and seeing a question mark indicating no bootable drives?
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> !mac | oisa
[08:18] <MrQuist> hi, i have ubuntu 16.32 but it not work
[08:18] <oisa> lotuspsycje: the docs that stop at with 2012 models? perhaps the forum posts that are mostly from 2009?
[08:19] <ObrienDave> MrQuist, which version???
[08:19] <cliff> attempting to install libmobiledevice and it's giving me issues when I try to run ./configure
[08:19] <MrQuist> oh 16.82
[08:20] <cliff> it says I don't have libusbmuxd installed
[08:20] <MrQuist> i got it from a friend but it not work
[08:20] <cliff> does anyone know how to verify that libusbmuxd is installed?
[08:20] <MrQuist> if it said its not installed
[08:20] <MrQuist> then isn't that enough information?
[08:21] <netw0rm> sudo apt-get install ?
[08:21] <MrQuist> apt-get install libusbmuxd-dev
[08:21] <MrQuist> or just apt-get install libusbmuxd
[08:21] <netw0rm> i think it will give a message.
[08:22] <cliff> Requested 'libusbmuxd >= 1.0.8' but version of libusbmuxd is UNKNOWN
[08:22] <cliff> E: Unable to locate package libusbmuxd
[08:23] <cliff> when I run apt-get install libusbmuxd
[08:23] <MrQuist> try sudo apt-get install libusbmuxd-dev
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> !info libusmuxd
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> !info libusbmuxd-dev
[08:24] <ObrienDave> gonna be a LONG night
[08:24] <MrQuist> very big package indeed.
[08:26] <cliff> I ran apt-get install libusbmuxd-dev and it said it's installed but when I run ./configure for libmobiledevice, it says the environment variable is still UNKONWN
[08:27] <netw0rm> :-(|)
[08:27] <cliff> I think the version that I downloaded is 1.0.7
[08:31] <MrQuist> google libusbmuxd-dev
[08:31] <MrQuist> check out the ubuntu page
[08:31] <MrQuist> download a package from there manually
[08:32] <MrQuist> install that one
[08:32] <MrQuist> @ cliff
[08:32] <FloodBot1> MrQuist: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:32] <cliff> ok
[08:32] <cliff> thanks
[08:32] <MrQuist> yw
[08:33] <[twisti]> on lts 12.04 server, running upgrade, i get this error: http://pastebin.com/Q4kL5x0v
[08:33] <[twisti]> anyone got any idea whats wrong ?
[08:34] <MrQuist> you have no more disk space
[08:34] <cfhowlett> server|![twisti],
[08:34] <cfhowlett> !server
[08:34] <[twisti]> oh thats right, /boot is full, duh
[08:34] <MrQuist> [twisti] gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[08:34] <[twisti]> i didnt even consider that to be right since the main disk is like 90% empty
[08:34] <xorgnak___> I'm using a simple bot to compile traffic from a few freenode channels
[08:34] <cliff> I tried to install using Software Center and it says Dependency is not satisfiable: libusbmuxd2 (= 1.0.8-2
[08:35]  * [twisti] facepalms
[08:35] <MrQuist> haha yeah that wont work if youre updating the linux image
[08:35] <MrQuist> no biggie
[08:35] <jedrek> hello there. i'm trying to remove graphical interface elements (and all the graphical interface software) off my ubuntu install - i only use it as a VM for dev work and am looking to create a small, portable image
[08:35] <cliff> Does that mean that it's corrup?
[08:35] <jedrek> i'm having a problem trying to figure out what keywords i should search for that kind of stuff under
[08:35] <MrQuist> jedrek, why not install a clear version of Ubuntu Servr?
[08:35] <[twisti]> i have a ton of -rw-------  1 root root  4969072 Jan 24  2013 vmlinuz-3.2.0-37-generic -rw-------  1 root root  4968592 Feb 19  2013 vmlinuz-3.2.0-38-generic
[08:35] <MrQuist> cliff, what package did you download?
[08:35] <kiwi_> hi... i'm installing 12.04 64 bit and get 'bootloader install failed' errors ... this happens when i customize partitions ... the automatic install with one single partition does not have this issue ... any idea how to solve this?
[08:35] <[twisti]> can i just delete some of the older ones ?
[08:35] <MrQuist> [twisti], sure
[08:35] <MrQuist> i'd keep the latest 2
[08:36] <MrQuist> or the latest one..
[08:36] <jedrek> MrQuist: this one's already set up :(
[08:36] <MrQuist> jedrek, use puppet and vagrant
[08:36] <kiwi_> i'm experienced ubuntu user and never had such an issue before
[08:36] <MrQuist> next time.. this time, im not sure what packages relate to X
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> kiwi_: did you install bootloader on first part of mbr?
[08:36] <cliff> libusbmuxd-dev_1.0.8-2_i386.deb
[08:36] <cliff> @MrQuist
[08:37] <MrQuist> cliff, could you try one from heere?
[08:37] <MrQuist> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libusbmuxd-dev
[08:37] <kiwi_> lotuspsychje, i installed to /dev/sda2 which is /boot  ... afterwards i tried to installto all other devices but none  is acceptetd
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> kiwi_: you have an uefi on your machine?
[08:38] <MrQuist> cliff, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> kiwi_: or dualbooting?
[08:38] <MrQuist> add this line; deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[08:38] <MrQuist> then try apt-get install libusbmuxd-dev
[08:38] <Jordan_U> kiwi_: The correct install device would be /dev/sda, not any partition.
[08:39] <kiwi_> lotuspsychje, i have uefi and there is freedos partition ... but no windows
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> kiwi_: maybe uefi blocks it?
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | kiwi_
[08:39] <kiwi_> Jordan_U ... /dev/sda is not accepted
[08:40] <Jordan_U> kiwi_: Did you boot Ubuntu's installer via UEFI? If so , then it will try to install grub-efi, and you will need an EFI System Partition. Did you create an EFI System Partition and set its mountpoint to /boot/efi/?
[08:40] <kiwi_> lotuspsychje, thanks... i'm completely unaware of uefi and have to read first what that is ... but it is in the bios definitely
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> kiwi_: try what Jordan_U suggested you :p
[08:42] <kiwi_> Jordan_U, what settings should imake in the bios?  i'm installing from a usb stick and want to have a seperate /boot partition
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> kiwi_: or try disable secure boot in bios, and retry your grub install from setup, see if it works
[08:42] <kiwi_> lotuspsychje, ok
[08:43] <Jordan_U> kiwi_: Why do you want a separate /boot/?
[08:44] <kiwi_> Jordan_U ... i always had ... for ten years now
[08:44] <kiwi_> Jordan ... you dont recommend separate boot?
[08:45] <Jordan_U> kiwi_: There's not much point to one, unless you have buggy boot firmware that can't properly handle large drives.
[08:45] <dannymichel> I've been trying to troubleshoot my sound for a while now. I feel like I've tried everything. I've uploaded some information to the forums http://goo.gl/33JfOm any ideas?
[08:45] <kiwi_> Jordan ... i created no efi partitions ... i dont see the option to do this
[08:45] <kiwi_> ok
[08:46] <NuSuey> so I have this weird problem.. got my both 2 monitors working (using the open source drivers) .. but my HDMI output (TV) won't work .. weirdly.. it only shows the ubuntu logo.. I can output the HDMI sound, but cannot see the TV (hdmi) video output. in the screen settings .. btw using 12.04
[08:46] <kiwi_> Jordan, when i check the bios in a minute ... what should i do .... disable UEFI?
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | NuSuey
[08:46] <Jordan_U> kiwi_: And by using a separate /boot/ you risk running out of room in /boot/ even if you have more than enough room in /, all for no gain.
[08:47] <kiwi_> and disable secure boot ... but i remember that is already disabled
[08:47] <NuSuey> lotuspsychje: ehm?
[08:47] <xorgnak___> I'm using a simple bot to compile traffic from a few freenode channels. If you'd like to try it, download my gist at https://gist.github.com/xorgnak/7481117
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> xorgnak___: you already have been warned not to spam the channel
[08:47] <NuSuey> lotuspsychje: I have dual screen already :o my problem is the HDMI output which is on another GPU (internal gpu)
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> xorgnak___: this is an ubuntu support channel
[08:49] <ObrienDave> that one IS the bot. xorgnak is the live user
[08:50] <xorgnak> wow, you guys are taking messages for me and everything
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> xorgnak: well stop that, only ubuntu support in here
[08:51] <Ben64> xorgnak: don't have bots here, don't spam the channel, you've been told this already
[08:51]  * cfhowlett warnings and a funky attitude = kick ... IMHO
[08:52] <ukn> gstreamer-properties
[08:52] <Jordan_U> xorgnak: No unofficial bots are allowed in this channel, please remove yours.
[08:52] <naz> how do you burn a music cd in 13.10?
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> !info brasero | naz
[08:53] <naz> does not work, first attempt would not load the songs after I dragged them over now it wont even start
[08:53] <naz> removed and installed still wont start need a working program
[08:53] <ObrienDave> naz, several burning packages available. I like k3b
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> naz: did you put a correct blank cd in?
[08:54] <jedrek> hm, this ubuntu server .vmware file is only downloading at 60mbps
[08:54] <jedrek> there it goes
[08:54] <jedrek> 120
[08:54] <cliff> @MrQuist I copied my error in pastebin http://pastebin.com/7suMWqAY
[08:55] <kiwi_> Jordan, bios says 'uefi/legacy boot: legacy first' ... so the installing usb is not booted via uefi
[08:55] <naz> I can try a new one, but I will try out k3b first pretty sure a blank or non blank cd has nothing to do with the program not loading
[08:55] <buu> So uh, if I've done sudo dkms install -m ceton -v 91; how do I get it to actually load the installed module?
[08:55] <kiwi_> secure boot is disabled
[08:55] <cliff> I was wondering if you could take a look at tell me if you can spot the obvious error.
[08:56] <cliff> *an obvious error
[08:56] <xorgnak> no problem
[08:57] <xorgnak___> I'm using a simple bot to compile traffic from a few freenode channels. If you'd like to try it, download my gist at https://gist.github.com/xorgnak/7481117
[08:59] <snafu_> is elfy ubuntu form moderator here
[09:00] <ObrienDave> she is mostly on #xubuntu
[09:00] <havv> Hello
[09:01] <havv> I updated google chrome with apt-get upgrade, but when I restarted it the version remained the same
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> !info google-chrome | havv
[09:02] <havv> !info google-chrome-stable
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[09:03] <DJones> havv: Isn't Google Chrom (rather than Chromium browser) a ppa rather than a default Ubuntu app
[09:03] <Ben64> that is correct
[09:04] <Peyam> Hi, I made a topic here. anyone with same problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2188020&p=12848364#post12848364
[09:04] <cliff> Would anyone be able to give me a suggestion to resolve my error.  pastebin http://pastebin.com/7suMWqAY
[09:05] <cliff> Or someone tell me how to verify the version of libusbmux that's installed on my machine?
[09:06] <cliff> perhaps give me the directory of where it would install. Or tell me how to find the directory?
[09:07] <Peyam> what are you trying to do cliff?
[09:07] <cliff> Install libmobiledevice
[09:08] <esc> hi I am having trouble adding the deadsnakes repository
[09:08] <esc> http://pastebin.com/UmTy9ecv
[09:08] <cliff> but then when I run ./configure it says I need to instal libusbmux
[09:08] <Peyam> so install it?
[09:08] <DJones> cliff: Does dpkg -s libusbmux give any info
[09:10] <cliff> DJones, thank you! It looks like it wasn't installed.
[09:10] <DJones> !find libusbmux
[09:10] <DJones> cliff: Looks like you need one of the packages ubottu just listed, not sure which one is the right one though
[09:12] <cliff> It looks like I have libusbmuxd-dev installed but I can't find the other two.  Would you know of a way to verify the version of libusbmuxd-dev?
[09:12] <DJones> cliff: Same command as before dpkg -s libusbmuxd-dev I would assume
[09:13] <cliff> Just as I thought, it's the incorrect version.
[09:13] <cliff> 1.0.7-2ubuntu0.1
[09:13] <cliff> I need 1.0.8
[09:14] <ObrienDave> esc, ppa installed ok for me
[09:14] <cliff> So, I downloaded the package from ubuntus site and when I try to open it through software center, it errors out saying that it's dependency is not satisfiable.
[09:14] <DJones> cliff: What version of Ubuntu are you using, 13.10 has 1.0.8-1ubuntu1
[09:15] <cliff> 12.04
[09:15] <esc> ObrienDave: yeah, it must be my machine
[09:16] <esc> works everywhere for me too, except the box at work
[09:16] <esc> ObrienDave: reinstalled ca-certificates
[09:17] <cliff> DJones do you know if there is a way to install the package without using software center?
[09:17] <ubuntu> ,sld
[09:19] <cfhowlett> cliff, this will come as a shock but EVERY package can be installed without use of the software center.
[09:19] <ObrienDave> LOL
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: :p
[09:20] <cliff> holy potatoes!
[09:20] <cliff> what'll they think of next?
[09:20] <DJones> cliff: Looks like its been 1.0.8 since 12.10
[09:21] <snafu_> i got banned for the ubuntu forum : (
[09:21] <cfhowlett> snafu_, let it be a lesson
[09:21] <snafu_> ya i know dont mess with ELFY she is mean
[09:21] <DJones> snafu_: Thats not something we can help with, this channel doesn't have anything to do with with the forums, you could maybe join #ubuntuforums and see if somebody there can point in the right direction
[09:22] <snafu_> nooo i am just venting i really dont care the ubuntu forum moderator are pussys
[09:23] <DJones> snafu_: This isn't a channel for venting either
[09:23] <cfhowlett> snafu_, so  you're trying to get bounced out of here as well then?
[09:23] <snafu_> why i did say anything to get me banned out of here
[09:23] <snafu_> i didnt
[09:24] <DJones> snafu_: You used language which could be considered offensive, please don't make comments like that again
[09:24] <Kartagis> !find xmllint
[09:24] <cfhowlett> snafu_, names, insults, profanity - not in this channel.  Thank you.  Also, please refresh your understanding of the Code of Conduct
[09:25] <snafu_> what insult are you talking about
[09:26] <snafu_> snafu_: You used language which could be considered offensive, please don't make comments like that again WHAT DID I SAY TO GET THIS
[09:26] <ObrienDave> snafu_> nooo i am just venting i really dont care the ubuntu forum moderator are pussys. would pretty much cover it
[09:26] <DJones> snafu_: Your description of the ubuntu forums moderators
[09:26] <snafu_> soo
[09:27] <lecoeus> what's up bitches?
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> !language | lecoeus
[09:27] <cjmac> snafu_: more importantly - is there anything ubuntu-related you need help you with?
[09:27] <logren> hej
[09:27] <lecoeus> lotuspsychje: you hurt my feelings
[09:28] <cfhowlett> lecoeus, do you have an ubuntu question?
[09:28] <logren> hello
[09:28] <lecoeus> cfhowlett: no, i come here to help people actually
[09:28] <snafu_> why are you all talking to me Djone and cjmac
[09:28] <cfhowlett> lecoeus, so you enter with an insult?  Please see Code of Conduct
[09:28] <logren> wtf is this???
[09:28] <ObrienDave> the full moon trolls abound
[09:28] <cliff> DJones: it looks like before I install libusbmuxd-dev I'm going to need to install libusbmuxd2
[09:28] <snafu_> and also i did not say anything insluting
[09:28] <logren> gtfo
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: seems like its swearing day
[09:29] <cfhowlett> !ops|logren,
[09:29] <ObrienDave> LOL
[09:29] <ObrienDave> I SWEAR it seems that way ;)
[09:29] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, stupidity is never out of season it seems
[09:30] <snafu_> I am not swearing
[09:30] <k1l> snafu_: please keep this chanel clear for ubunut support. if you want to talk about ubuntuforums related topics please join #ubuntuforums
[09:30] <lecoeus> cfhowlett: indeed, i don't approve of swearing at all
[09:30] <ObrienDave> don't we know it ;)
[09:30] <Myrtti> can we move on
[09:30] <Ben64> can we please get back on topic? does anyone have a problem with ubuntu? if not silence is great!
[09:30] <dannymichel> im trying to redo the also drivers as it says here http://goo.gl/HD3S but i get an error message 'The file /usr/src/linux-headers-3.11.0-13-generic/include/linux/version.h does not exist'
[09:30] <snafu_> Kil i am not saying anything
[09:30] <dannymichel> http://i.imgur.com/999ZcLb.png
[09:31] <Ben64> dannymichel: you see the top of that page that says its outdated? you probably shouldn't be following that
[09:31] <cliff> Ben64: I do.
[09:32] <cliff> As in, I have an Ubuntu related problem.
[09:33] <Ben64> cliff: yeah it seems like you'd need to either upgrade or find a ppa with the version you need
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> cliff: can you tell us what you actually trying to do? sync with ipod?
[09:33] <cliff> I have an iphone 5S with IOS 7 and it's not able to mount when I connect via USB
[09:35] <cliff> The phone prompts me to choose if I trust the machine, I do, then Ubuntu says it did not recieve permission.
[09:35] <cliff> And its an endless loop.
[09:37] <cliff> So I saw on the libmobiledevice website they had a new package that was still being tested. So I downloaded the package from the github and am trying to download it.
[09:38] <cliff> *trying to install it...not trying to download it.
[09:39] <TomTom> good morning, how to change the default size of tmpfs? its not part of the fstab but its mounted on system start
[09:40] <[Gentoo]> add to fstab
[09:40] <Danato> is there anything similar to "Internet Download Manager" or "Speedbit Download Accelerator" for linux??/
[09:40] <[Gentoo]> TomTom: add the size= option
[09:41] <wilee-nilee> Danato, I use apt-fast
[09:42] <TomTom> [Gentoo]: as i said, its not part of the fstab. there is some script during the startup which creates the tmpfs with a default size
[09:42] <lecoeus> Danato: try aria2c
[09:42] <Danato> wilee-nilee: what is that and how does it work?
[09:43] <wilee-nilee> Danato, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/speed-up-apt-get-downloads-with-apt.html here is a web page.
[09:43] <[Gentoo]> TomTom: have you tried adding it to fstab though
[09:43] <[Gentoo]> the tmpfs location
[09:43] <TomTom> [Gentoo]: ] why i should when there is some "concept" of creating it automatically?
[09:43] <[Gentoo]> because you can adjust options then
[09:43] <[Gentoo]> like size parameter
[09:44] <Danato> thanks wilee-nilee and lecoeus
[09:44] <[Gentoo]> otherwise edit the script and adjust the mount options
[09:44] <[Gentoo]> as default is half RAM
[09:45] <[Gentoo]> TomTom: what dir is the tmpfs on?
[09:45] <DJones> TomTom: Came across this, don't know how well it will work though http://blog.sebjan.net/increase-a-tmpfs-partition-size-on-the-go
[09:47] <nitronewbie> How I can format low level
[09:47] <nitronewbie> ?
[09:47] <nitronewbie> to my hdd
[09:47] <Danato> so i can actually combine aria2 and apt-fast
[09:48] <[Gentoo]> nitronewbie: do you wnt to zero the drive?
[09:48] <[Gentoo]> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk
[09:48] <syrious> YAY!!! I finally found the right IRC client to talk to you guys.... but I've already fixed my issue, lmao
[09:48] <[Gentoo]> syrious: what one
[09:49] <nitronewbie> [Gentoo]: yes because computer doesnt read the hdd
[09:49] <syrious> I'm trying to teach myself ubuntu, so I loaded 13.10 onto my hp 255 g1 laptop... then I couldn't get the wifi to work properly
[09:50] <[Gentoo]> nitronewbie: i doubt that will help then
[09:50] <[Gentoo]> nitronewbie: in what way doesnt it read the disk? doesnt see the drive?
[09:50] <[Gentoo]> or what
[09:50] <nitronewbie> I cannot open operating system it wrecked.
[09:50] <nitronewbie> Yes
[09:51] <nitronewbie> It see the driver
[09:51] <nitronewbie> but doesnt reading or writing over it
[09:51] <nitronewbie> just see
[09:51] <MrQuist> syrious, what was up?
[09:52] <[Gentoo]> nitronewbie: just use fdisk or whatever to delete then make a new partition
[09:52] <[Gentoo]> and put a FS on it
[09:52] <MrQuist> Something smells fishy....
[09:53] <Danato> syrious: somehow unity doesnt work well with the network i use most of the time
[09:53] <RWOverdijk> Any libavcodec (ffmpeg) experts in?
[09:53] <Danato> when i switch to kde it works jst fine
[09:53] <nitronewbie> partition is not avaible...
[09:53] <[Gentoo]> nitronewbie: what happenes when you do fdisk /dev/disk
[09:54] <[Gentoo]> or paste the output of fdisk -l
[09:54] <nitronewbie> I get I/O reading writing error...
[09:54] <syrious> not entirely sure really. I'm a super noob to linux, so I couldn't even begin to tell you, but I found a posting by searching Google that told me to enter in terminal "sudo apt-get remove --purge bcmwl kernel-source" then enter "sudo modprobe brcmsmac" did a quick reboot, now all is working well
[09:55] <[Gentoo]> nitronewbie: if you want to try zeroing the drive do the command: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk
[09:56] <nitronewbie> I'm gonna do
[09:56] <nitronewbie> This will be enough?
[09:56] <nitronewbie> dev/zero code?
[09:56] <[Gentoo]> maybe the disk is just bad
[09:56] <nitronewbie> do I need anything else?
[09:56] <Ben64> io errors usually mean the drive is dying or dead
[09:56] <[Gentoo]> is it an old disk
[09:57] <soman> Does some defragmentation on ssd on ubuntu exist?
[09:57] <nitronewbie> Ben64 are you noob
[09:57] <[Gentoo]> soman: yes but it doesnt affect it
[09:57] <soman> sorry fragmentation
[09:57] <Ben64> nitronewbie: watch the attitude here, guy
[09:57] <nitronewbie> didn't see any hdd stuck in badsector?
[09:57] <soman> [Gentoo]: like a simple hdd?
[09:57] <[Gentoo]> soman: as it has no moving parts
[09:57] <[Gentoo]> so its got no head to physically move
[09:57] <[Gentoo]> which is why fragmentation affects hdds
[09:58] <Ben64> thats not accurate, fragmentation does affect ssds as well
[09:58] <[Gentoo]> well you shouldnt defrag an ssd
[09:59] <Ben64> you shouldn't need to defrag ext3/4 at all
[10:00] <soman> [Gentoo], Ben64, thanks
[10:00] <[Gentoo]> Ben64: in what way does fragmentation affect ssds>
[10:00] <Onixs> defrag lol
[10:00] <[Gentoo]> if theyre digital
[10:01] <Ben64> they're still faster in sequential reads
[10:01] <remoteCTRL> hey guys!
[10:02] <remoteCTRL> is there another indicator to just show the time than indicator-datetime ?
[10:02] <remoteCTRL> i just uninstalled evolution, and believe it or not, ubuntu need a wholesale crappy mail programm, in order to show the freakin time as it appears??
[10:06] <remoteCTRL> hello?
[10:06] <remoteCTRL> is anybody here r do i have a netsplit?
[10:06] <cfhowlett> !patience|remoteCTRL,
[10:07] <remoteCTRL> so no netsplit...
[10:08] <hitsujiTMO> remoteCTRL: have you tried installing with --no-install-recommends ?
[10:08] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: nope, i dindt know that siwtch until just now...?
[10:09] <syrious> ok... new problem. how do I install flash? I downloaded the tar.gz.... but I don't know what to do now
[10:09] <Ben64> syrious: well thats not the correct way, its in the repositories
[10:09] <Ben64> !flash | syrious
[10:09] <hitsujiTMO> remoteCTRL: evolution-data-server is a recommend of indicator-datetime ... it's probably something to do with the "add event" and calendar it display
[10:10] <hitsujiTMO> displays*
[10:10] <NuSuey> anyone who has an idea with the following issue: "so I have this weird problem.. got my both 2 monitors working (using the open source drivers) .. but my HDMI output (TV) won't work .. weirdly.. it only shows the ubuntu logo.. I can output the HDMI sound, but cannot see the TV (hdmi) video output. in the screen settings .. btw using 12.04"
[10:10] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: i suppose so, and with the mentioned switch it also wants to do so i am afraid...
[10:10] <syrious> ok, lemme try that
[10:11] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: i dont want to have anything related to evolution on my  computer...
[10:11] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: actually i also dont want anything web-app related, and so futher and so on, because i am of the opinion, if i want to be spied on, i can go on and use windows, right...?
[10:12] <remoteCTRL> actually i am really thinking of swapping distros... mhm...
[10:13] <buu> !libhal
[10:14] <buu> What happened to libhal in saucy/3.10?
[10:14] <hitsujiTMO> remoteCTRL: why not try a different DE? evolution is part of the gnome environment so maybe go for an environment not based on gnome?
[10:14] <syrious> ok, that worked!! thanks!
[10:14] <remoteCTRL> i got the standar unity running currently...
[10:14] <syrious> now how do I get my webcam to work, lmao
[10:14] <Ben64> !hal | buu
[10:15] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: but you know there are so many things on ubuntu nowadays that are really statrting to anoy me big time... like ressource consumption for browsers...
[10:15] <remoteCTRL> syrious:  install cheese and see if it already does
[10:15] <syrious> cheese?
[10:15] <remoteCTRL> aye
[10:16] <hitsujiTMO> remoteCTRL: resource consumption for browsers are down to the browsers not ubuntu. again, you can always go with a different browser if you wish
[10:16] <remoteCTRL> syrious: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/cheese
[10:18] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: its just the same with no matte what browser... opera, chromium, firebird... open like 35 tabs and FOUR GIGS of ram are prone to swapping ... -.-
[10:18] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: the problem is, that for some reason, that i really dont understand, the contents of ALL tabs reside in the memory at ALL times, dunno what that is good for...
[10:18] <hitsujiTMO> remoteCTRL: I don't have that experience? are they flash heavy pages? that would explain it.
[10:19] <syrious> remoteCTRL: ok I've got it installed and the webcam shows up in the preferences, but I'm not getting any picture
[10:19] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: amongst others, yes, pages like youtube, open like 15 youtube tabs, and youve had it with four gigs
[10:19] <remoteCTRL> syrious: then its not working
[10:19] <remoteCTRL> if cheese dont work nothing works
[10:20] <syrious> so I won't be able to use my webcam at all then?
[10:20] <hitsujiTMO> remoteCTRL: then the issue is with flash not the browser i suspect.
[10:20] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: but i also use farcebook like a sort of blog, i have aboos on quite a few sites, and when i just open them in new tabs to read them later, i'D say 15 is about the limit too...
[10:21] <remoteCTRL> syrious: not until you fix what is keeping it from working... have you already been helped around? if so, tell me what you did
[10:21] <ak5> hi, how do I find the right mirror for my location? I am in china
[10:21] <syrious> I haven't done anything yet
[10:21] <syrious> just started on this issue
[10:21] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: it is quite indiscriminate, it also doesnt respond well to javascript and others...
[10:21] <remoteCTRL> sarious, its an usb cam i suppose?
[10:22] <syrious> no not usb, integrated
[10:22] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: the huge design error is, to load the contents of all tabs at the same time.
[10:22] <hitsujiTMO> remoteCTRL: facebook pages are full of flash instances. and is quite poorly optimised
[10:23] <remoteCTRL> like for ex, when you restart the browser and reload the previous contents you all of a sudden hear like 15 youtube vids runnign simultaneously
[10:23] <remoteCTRL> what the heck would that be good for??
[10:23] <remoteCTRL> what the heck do i need a vid starting before i skip to the tab??
[10:23] <Ub0ntu> helo =)
[10:24] <remoteCTRL> and therefore, what the heck do i need the whole vid loaded to the RAM thus using up 4 gigs of ram just for a few browser tabs?
[10:24] <hitsujiTMO> remoteCTRL: I just had a look there, facebook timeline uses about 200MB ram to render in chrome. That's nothing to do with ubuntu. that would be down to the flash player and the design of the facebook page itself
[10:24] <lecoeus> remoteCTRL: use elinks
[10:24] <lecoeus> elinks is the best
[10:24] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: yeah i know but youre missing the point dude
[10:24] <remoteCTRL> lecoeus: for browser?
[10:25] <lecoeus> yep
[10:25] <remoteCTRL> i currently prefer chromium because it has one huge advantage over all the others: you can kill processes for tabs, so when i start it i open a console and keep killing processes, until its finally up and running, and when i really want to see the tab i reload it...
[10:25] <remoteCTRL> kinda cumbersome, right...?
[10:26] <remoteCTRL> cos otherwise i go fetch a coffe until its done loading and swapping...
[10:26] <remoteCTRL> thats simply a massive design error
[10:26] <remoteCTRL> its seriousl a bad bbad misconception
[10:26] <syrious> remoteCTRL: did you catch me saying it was an integrated webcam?
[10:27] <hitsujiTMO> remoteCTRL: No, if your having issues with ram, switch to a lightweight DE (i'm just using openbox + lxpanel here, not even a full DE). But as regards the browser/flash memory usage, don't blame it on ubuntu when it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:27] <remoteCTRL> syrious: what does sudo lsusb | grep cam return and sudo lspci | grep cam?
[10:27] <hitsujiTMO> syrious: all integraded webcams use a usb interface
[10:27] <syrious> gimme a sec and I'll check
[10:28] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: again: youre missing the point
[10:28] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: i am not blaming the fact that flash is a ressource-hungry biatch on ubuntu
[10:28] <remoteCTRL> what i am blaming on ubuntu is the nonsense, that it opens all browser tabs at the same time
[10:28] <remoteCTRL> and i also dont blame that on the broswer
[10:29] <Ben64> remoteCTRL: watch the language here, and this channel really really is not for ranting, please don't
[10:29] <remoteCTRL> because it does it for all browsers which is NOT happening in windows
[10:29] <remoteCTRL> Ben64: @ language, fair enuff, the rest, yeah who else am i gonna tell? im on topic dude, i have an ISSUE here, ok?
[10:30] <hitsujiTMO> remoteCTRL: that behavior you can turn off in the browser settings. (I have never seen that by default btw so you might have turned it on)
[10:30] <Ben64> you're not talking about the issue really, you're ranting, and its a browser issue anyway
[10:30] <syrious> remoteCTRL it's just returning me back to a blank command line
[10:30] <remoteCTRL> hitsujiTMO: i sureley never did that...
[10:30] <remoteCTRL> syrious: apparently your webcam is not turned on, do you have a switch for it anywhere on the chassis?
[10:31] <syrious> not that I can find
[10:31] <remoteCTRL> Ben64: would you kindly explain to me then, wha 4 different browsers behave just the samte, which 4 different browseres do the opposite way in windows?
[10:31] <hitsujiTMO> syrious: can you pastebin the ouput of lsusb
[10:31] <syrious> ummm how do I do that?
[10:32] <Ben64> remoteCTRL: sounds like a question for the browser people
[10:32] <remoteCTRL> Ben64: all 64 brands of them, really?
[10:32] <lecoeus> remoteCTRL: is the problem reloading your previous tabs at startup?
[10:32] <Ben64> syrious: open a terminal, type "lsusb" hit enter, copy and paste that into pastebin.com and give us the resulting url
[10:32] <lecoeus> because you should be able to disable that easily
[10:32] <syrious> remoteCTRL ok, gimme a sec
[10:32] <iptable> syrious, try just lsusb, then look for something that looks like your webcam. it will not necessarily say CAM in the name and in lower case :/
[10:33] <cfhowlett> remoteCTRL, reloading previous tabs is a browser setting.  turn it off and no re-opening
[10:33] <remoteCTRL> lecoeus: *bitingmylipps* i'd seriously be grateful for a hint how to... ;)
[10:33] <lecoeus> for firefox, go to preferences, general
[10:33] <cfhowlett> remoteCTRL, ffox?  see preferences
[10:33] <Ben64> remoteCTRL: again, thats a browser issue, check the documentation perhaps?
[10:33] <jimgroth> Hey guys. Running Lubuntu. Trying to figure out how to change the look of windows to something dark.
[10:34] <remoteCTRL> cfhowlett: no it isnt: i am not talking about not reloading the previous tabs in the sense of not even showing them, but not reloading in the sense of yes showing them, but reloading them WHEN CLICKED AT
[10:34] <lecoeus> remoteCTRL: i don't think that exists yet
[10:34] <lecoeus> perhaps you can save your session
[10:34] <Ben64> jimgroth: you should be able to change the theme in a settings/preferences menu somewhere, i don't really use lubuntu so i'm not sure what it'd be called
[10:34] <remoteCTRL> Ben64: and i say you re wrong there, i bet you 2 punds of dollars!
[10:34] <lecoeus> then reload it when you want it
[10:35] <jimgroth> Ben64, I found a place where I can switch themes but it doesn't seem to accept every theme.
[10:35] <syrious> remoteCTRL: pastebin seems to be down for maint
[10:35] <jimgroth> In fact, none I've tried to download works.
[10:35] <hitsujiTMO> syrious: use paste.ubuntu.com
[10:36] <remoteCTRL> syrious: what you just did, you shouldn't always ask before ;)
[10:36] <remoteCTRL> syrious: do it again with lscpi pls
[10:38] <syrious> ok, I think I'm doing it right this time: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6420541/
[10:38] <AlanBell> syrious: can you do: ls /dev/video*
[10:39] <syrious> ok gimme a sec
[10:39] <syrious> do I put in the * too?
[10:39] <AlanBell> yeah
[10:40] <Ben64> the webcam is listed on the lsusb, its  Bus 002 Device 002: ID 064e:e263 Suyin Corp.
[10:40] <llutz> remoteCTRL: for firefox, check "don't load tabs until selected" in preferences, general, startup. for other browsers, check documentation. file some feature-requests or bug-reports to the browser-devs meanwhile
[10:40] <syrious> it returned /dev/video0
[10:41] <Lockzi> I have a problem with mounting CIFS shares... In my /etc/fstab I have lines like this one: \\10.0.1.5\nas.media.series     /dot.tld/openfiler/series   cifs    user,password=PASSWORD,uid=1000,sec=ntlm,iocharset=utf8,gid=1003,username=USERNAME,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777     0       0
[10:42] <Lockzi> uid=1000 corresponds to my user called "administrator" on the system, and gid=1003 is a group called "doing"
[10:42] <Ben64> Lockzi: use / instead of \
[10:42] <AlanBell> syrious: if you have vlc installed you should be able to do: vlc v4l2:///dev/video0
[10:42] <AlanBell> which should display your camera on screen, or give you an interesting error message on the console
[10:42] <Lockzi> the user administrator is a member of the group dling, and I also have another user "sabnzbd" that's also part of dling group
[10:43] <Silass22> test
[10:43] <syrious> AlanBell: I don't think I have VLC installed yet
[10:43] <Lockzi> The problem is that with 0777 on both dir_mode and file_mode I can't create folders as the user sabnzbd
[10:44] <AlanBell> syrious: ok, you can install it from software centre or sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:44] <syrious> AlanBell: installing it now
[10:44] <AlanBell> it won't do anything much different to what cheese does, except you have a slightly better chance of a good error message
[10:44] <VipinMS> Hi
[10:44] <VipinMS> I need one quick help
[10:45] <Terorr> Hi I can't install a tgz I have already the makefile but make doesnt work
[10:45] <Lockzi> I have also tried adding the option, nounix to the /etc/fstab line. The results is that it shows as 777 but I can't create any folders or files. I am given "permission denied" on the shares as the user sabnzbd that's a member of the group dling....
[10:45] <AlanBell> hi VipinMS, whats up?
[10:45] <syrious> ok, installed.... what do I type in again?
[10:45] <VipinMS> AlanBell:  while waking up from suspend mode, always the hud prompts
[10:45] <Lockzi> This is using Ubuntu 13.04 server
[10:46] <remoteCTRL> llutz: thats brilliant! thanks for that!
[10:46] <VipinMS> AlanBell: i'm using ubuntu 13.10
[10:46] <Terorr> Hey anyone can help me?
[10:46] <Terorr> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[10:46] <Terorr> while I have already makefile
[10:47] <Terorr> I'm Installing a tgz
[10:47] <VipinMS> Terorr:  which package ?
[10:47] <Ben64> Terorr: not really within the scope of this channel. you should see if there is a better avenue of installing whatever it is you're trying to get
[10:47] <VipinMS> Terorr: post in askubuntu
[10:47] <Terorr> VipinMS dsmidiwifi
[10:47] <VipinMS> Terorr: or superuser, stack exchange
[10:48] <Lockzi> Ben64: Do you really think that using / instead of \ helps with the permission problems?
[10:48] <Ben64> Lockzi: it was the first thing i noticed, before you explained any permissions issues
[10:48] <AlanBell> syrious:  vlc v4l2:///dev/video0
[10:48] <FrankMartin_> FrankMartin,
[10:48] <syrious> AlanBell: ok, well my webcam showed up after that... hmmm
[10:49] <Lockzi> Ben64: Okay :(
[10:49] <AlanBell> syrious: yay \o/
[10:49] <Terorr> Guys I'm Installing DSMIDIWIFI
[10:49] <Lockzi> Do you see any other reason for why chmod 777 is not respected on a CIFS mounted share?
[10:50] <syrious> AlanBell: but it still doesn't show up in cheese?? is there something wrong there?
[10:50] <iptable> Terorr, I PMd you
[10:51] <remoteCTRL> syrious: ok, i have been googlen, that device code seems to be unidentifiable and its not a good sign that ubuntu doesnt recognize it, is that a very old or very new laptop...?
[10:51] <AlanBell> syrious: strange resolutions or something? I am not sure really, cheese is mostly a bit of fun. guvcview is a more serious webcam recording application
[10:52] <remoteCTRL> syrious: oh you got it working already...? what was missing?
[10:52] <lnostdal1> hi guys, thoughts on MS finally dropping SHA1 while GPG in Ubuntu still uses SHA1 by default?
[10:52] <syrious> remoteCTRL: neither really, it's kinda in the middle? it's a HP 255 g1
[10:52] <AlanBell> syrious: cheese tends to either work or not work, it is a simple teest for goodness, but it doesn't give much feedback when it fails
[10:52] <kreator> k kreatorr
[10:52] <kreator> mt
[10:53] <AlanBell> lnostdal1: that isn't so much of a support question, but a great discussion topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:53] <remoteCTRL> syrious: AlanBell is it working yet or not...?
[10:53] <VipinMS> AlanBell: ^^
[10:54] <VipinMS> AlanBell:  while waking up from suspend mode, always  hud prompts
[10:54] <jgcampbell300> I am looking for an all in one solution, I maintain a bunch of computers most of the time I ssh in to them to do matinance some times vnc .. rdp with ms products ... is there a package out there that would help me manage, keep track of, effectively gain access to the system that needs to be accessed ... maybe even use macro/script's to preform some repetitive tasks ? Most are Ubuntu desktop/server ... some are Windows boxes
[10:54] <AlanBell> VipinMS: I have no idea what the answer is, that doesn't happen to me
[10:55] <remoteCTRL> syrious: if its a cheese issue, there is also kamoso, kamerka an camorama...
[10:55] <syrious> AlanBell: well the main thing I'm trying to get working is that I use a web based webcam chat service and I can't get past the adobe flash permissions.... is that something with the computer, OS, or the Browser?
[10:55] <AlanBell> !info remmina | jgcampbell300
[10:55] <VipinMS> AlanBell:  he he.
[10:55] <AlanBell> jgcampbell300: actually that is vnc and rdp, it will tunnel things over ssh, but isn't a terminal access thing
[10:56] <jgcampbell300> AlanBell, I use Remmina for my desktop connections ... will it handle ssh ?
[10:56] <jgcampbell300> AlanBell, bummer ... wish there was a one stop shop for admins ;)
[10:57] <remoteCTRL> llutz: that setting you mentined... i dont have it?!?
[10:57] <AlanBell> jgcampbell300: actually, I might be wrong about that . . .
[10:57] <jgcampbell300> Does anyone have any suggestions as to package that will do simular for terminals
[10:57] <jgcampbell300> AlanBell, im reading up on it now ... will let you know in a min
[10:58] <AlanBell> jgcampbell300: yeah, remmina does do ssh connections as well, I am looking at a terminal now
[10:58] <remoteCTRL> llutz i found it and it IS checked -.- ok, somethings WRONG here...
[10:59] <AlanBell> jgcampbell300: ssh and sftp, it is really cool, I wonder if that is new, I haven't seen that before
[10:59] <jgcampbell300> AlanBell, Remmina plugins: RDP, VNC, NX, XDMCP, SSH, Telepathy ... we may have a winner ... didnt think about addons
[11:02] <Silass22> test
[11:05] <jgcampbell300> would be cool if there was a way to interface remmina to something like zenmap or zabbix to populate connection lists
[11:11] <Silass22> #
[11:13] <UrielVigilant> by mistake i had installed some app that needs gnustep, now i removed gnustep,  but when i reboot or when i terminate it appear always a message saying that canot start gnustep and cant find directorys of it . how to make this stop from appearing ?
[11:14] <Silass22> is multitail mergeall bugged?
[11:16] <Silass22> uhm?
[11:16] <ObrienDave> "bugged"? in what way?
[11:18] <Joel_re> hey, I've been trying to get nagios3 installed
[11:18] <Joel_re> http://hastebin.com/qutafitaki.vhdl
[11:18] <Joel_re> any clues on what I can do to get around this ?
[11:19] <Silass22> ObrienDave: multitail --mergeall -q 1 /var/log/* doesn't work as intended
[11:19] <Silass22> it won't update on log updates
[11:21] <ikonia> Joel_re: areyou pulling this nagios package from a PPA
[11:28] <lanoxx> hi everyone, I am looking for advice to install an grub2 bootloader to boot in efi mode using GPT partition table on an existing ubuntu installation, I have already copied all files to my new ssd which uses GPT and I am not in a chroot on the new ssd
[11:29]  * lanoxx is on 12.10
[11:29] <lanoxx> when I try to run grub-install it complains about the gpt table and currently i am also still booting into the bios mode
[11:29] <lanoxx> does anyone here have experience with this kind of setup
[11:35] <Joel_re> ikonia: nope
[11:35] <Joel_re> its a freshly installed box
[11:35] <Joel_re> with 12.04
[11:38] <kiwi_> hi... how can i change the mountpoint of a device, preferably in gparted ... i have /dev/sda5   without mount point and want to make it /home
[11:38] <kiwi_> mountpoint of a partition i must say
[11:38] <gordonjcp> !fstab | kiwi_
[11:44] <Terorr> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[11:44] <Terorr> anyone can help me?
[11:45] <Terorr> already ./configure but bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[11:45] <asm32dev> it means that file configure does not exist :)
[11:46] <dv_> hello. qtchooser prefers qt5 over qt4, also for stuff like qmake.
[11:46] <dv_> how can I change that?
[11:46] <Terorr> asm32dev where  should I find that?
[11:46] <asm32dev> i think in the same folder with source codes you want to build
[11:48] <Terorr> asm32dev come in private please
[11:49] <Joel_re> ikonia: heh its because the nagios group doesn't exist
[11:49] <Joel_re> the deb probably needs tobe fixed
[11:58] <dima___> .
[11:58] <dima___> @ivan`` hi
[12:00] <pizzasauce> I setup 5 users on my computer. I than installed Chrome, and all 5 users can run chrome. Then I installed Java JRE. But only 3 of the 5 users can run Java applets on their Chrome. The other 2 could not. Any idea why?
[12:01] <jgcampbell300> anyone know where to find addons for Remmina and some install instructions for those addons
[12:12] <remoteCTRL> Ben64: ok, i lost that 2 punds of dollars... it apparently really IS a browser problem... now that is even odder...
[12:13] <remoteCTRL> pound ..
[12:13] <ObrienDave> !info remmina
[12:14] <ObrienDave> jgcampbell300, it's in the repos along with the addons
[12:15] <TomyWork> hi
[12:15] <TomyWork> why does amarok pull in akonadi?
[12:16] <Touhou11> TomyWork: Data storage/meta data I think
[12:17] <excognac> hi ikonia i have a little time to mess around with the cpu integrated graphics, if you have any ideas
[12:18] <Touhou11> TomyWork: There was some sponsored EU project in KDE to implement semantic data in various applications, and it's been a clusterfuck ever since
[12:18] <TomyWork> guh
[12:18] <solars> can anyone recommend an ethernet usb adapter that works out of the box? (doesn't need vendor drivers etc)
[12:18] <Organicanarchy> I want to run a few crappy games that I play on Windows to run on Ubuntu, if they show up as supported in the Wineappdb, should I expect any problems in Ubuntu running them via wine?
[12:18] <Organicanarchy> solars: anything linksys
[12:19] <TomyWork> i'm trying to get rid of as much of the PIM module as possible
[12:19] <TomyWork> but that's not a lot, it seems
[12:20] <Organicanarchy> !wine
[12:21] <Guest58740> look for help
[12:22] <Guest58740> I have some code ,but they doesn't work
[12:23] <Guest58740> for(int i=0;i<100;i++)
[12:23] <Guest58740>         printf("the software update %3d\r", i);
[12:23] <Guest58740> afte ./    it print nothing
[12:24] <bgardner> Guest58740: Try in ##c++
[12:24] <Guest58740> gcc
[12:26] <bgardner> Guest58740: I meant you are asking a c++ question in the Ubuntu support channel.  Your question would be better directed to a programming channel, such as ##c++.
[12:26] <jgcampbell300> holy cow ... why o why can i never remember apt-cache search lol
[12:27] <Guest58740> yeah
[12:27] <Guest58740> but nobody  response to me
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:28] <TomyWork> Guest58740, give them a full c++ source file that compiles and exhibits your problem
[12:28] <TomyWork> then they'll probably help you
[12:28] <Guest58740> ok
[12:28] <TomyWork> or you'll find the problem yourself while making that file :)
[12:28] <Guest58740> but it is very simply
[12:29] <Guest58740> #include<stdio.h>
[12:29] <Guest58740> void main()
[12:29] <Guest58740> {
[12:29] <Guest58740> for(int i=0;i<100;i++)
[12:29] <Guest58740>         printf("the software update %3d\r", i);
[12:29] <FloodBot1> Guest58740: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:29] <Guest58740> }
[12:29] <M00sL0gB0t> ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/willie/coretasks.py", line 132, in track_modes)
[12:33] <lecoeus> Guest58740: change \r to \n
[12:33] <Guest58740> ok
[12:36] <Terorr> Hi guys
[12:36] <cfhowlett> Terorr, greetings
[12:36] <Terorr> why ./ says Permission denied
[12:36] <Terorr> its teleport
[12:37] <Teleport> Im executing DSMIDIWIFI
[12:37] <Teleport> on Ubuntu Studio 13.10
[12:37] <Teleport> any solution cfhowlett?
[12:37] <Teleport> any solution cfhowlett ?*
[12:38] <cfhowlett> Teleport, solution?  I don't even understand the problem!  Sorry.  over my head.
[12:39] <Guest58740> It's ok
[12:39] <Guest58740> why change the \r to \n    it ok
[12:39] <lecoeus> \r is not really used on linux
[12:39] <lecoeus> end of line on posix is \n
[12:40] <lecoeus> on windows it's \r\n
[12:40] <lecoeus> just \r is not used afaik
[12:40] <asm32dev> \r is used in macos
[12:40] <sandertje> Guest58740: \r\n is the windows line-ending. UNIX only uses \n as line ending
[12:40] <Guest58740> o
[12:41] <Teleport> cfhowlett: I'm trying to excute DSMIDIWiFi which allows a phone to stand as a midi via wifi I'm trying to execute by chmod 755 DSMIDIWiFi then ./DSMIDIWiFi now says ./DSMIDIWiFi: Permission denied
[12:41] <geirha> ancient macos. osx use \n
[12:41] <cfhowlett> Teleport, this entire inquiry is over my level of expertise.  sorry.
[12:42] <berga> I'm really a nub, but are you sure you have permissions in the current directory?
[12:42] <berga> maybe try sudo DSMIDIWiFi
[12:43] <berga> but linux can eat your children if you use it wrong
[12:43] <Guest58740> but if i want the number stay  there ,how can i change
[12:43] <berga> ly
[12:43] <asm32dev> lads, where can i read about irssi?
[12:43] <DJones> !irssi | asm32dev
[12:44] <asm32dev> thanks
[12:44] <Teleport> berga DSMIDIWiFi is not a command
[12:44] <FernandoBasso> Which I am using...
[12:44] <FernandoBasso> :D
[12:44] <berga> oh =P
[12:44] <asm32dev> Teleport, sudo ./DSMIDIWiFi
[12:44] <W4RH4WK> asm32dev: if you are unfamiliar with irssi i recommend having a look at weechat too
[12:44] <berga> or even sudo chmod 755 ./DSMIDIWiFi
[12:45] <Teleport> asm32dev sudo: ./DSMIDIWiFi: command not found
[12:45] <Teleport> c
[12:45] <Teleport> *typo c
[12:45] <asm32dev> hm.. weechat is beautiful
[12:45] <berga> Teleport, it looks like you're trying to use it as a command
[12:45] <Guest58740> you know weechat
[12:46] <Guest58740> where are you
[12:46] <asm32dev> i just looked at screenshots)
[12:46] <asm32dev> and it is beautiful
[12:46] <berga> Teleport, probably need to find that app's executable
[12:46] <jgcampbell300> does anyone know of some kind of proxy i could setup and run on my own server that would redirect vnc, rdp, ssh, etc ... something that i could use to securely get around firewalls on both ends ?
[12:46] <W4RH4WK> i guess asm32dev is in love
[12:47] <berga> sometimes they are in /usr/local/bin iirc
[12:47] <Guest58740> if some put me in blacklist ,how can i add  him again
[12:48] <berga> anyway I should stop talking since I am way too new at linux in any form
[12:48] <grym1> jgcampbell300, you can do many of those over ash. run it on port 80 or 443 if required.
[12:48] <asm32dev> now i downloaded and launched your dsmidiwifi
[12:49] <grym1> over ash, rather.
[12:49] <asm32dev> it works
[12:49] <asm32dev> you are doing something wrong
[12:49] <grym1> err. over ssh.
[12:49] <jgcampbell300> grym1, cool ... thanks for the info
[12:49] <jgcampbell300> !ash
[12:50] <jgcampbell300> hmm google search is rough with ash ... do you have a link handy
[12:51] <grym1> jgcampbell300, beware ash was a typo.I meant ssh. and do not use this advice to work against your work policies.
[12:51] <Guest58740> how can i make the number stay one place
[12:51] <asm32dev> guest, what do you mean?
[12:51] <jgcampbell300> ahh ok thanks
[12:53] <grym1> Berg's, 'where' or 'whereis', I don't remember, is useful.as is 'locate'.
[12:53] <grym1> berga ^
[12:54] <berga> which
[12:54] <berga> i used that which
[12:55] <Guest58740> terrible
[12:56] <berga> anyway, I was trying to answer teleport about his question but I think he left when he realised I had no idea what I was talking about
[12:56] <howlymowly> libboost1.49-dev
[12:56] <howlymowly> i got some errors during the upgrade which I tried to correct using "apt-fet -f install":  http://pastebin.com/sWF1dnnV
[12:56] <howlymowly> but I get some errors during the process as can be seen in the pastebin link....
[12:56] <howlymowly> any idea what to do?
[12:56] <berga> but thanks for those alternatives, I will write them down for future experimentation
[12:56] <howlymowly> I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10
[13:01] <berga> grym1, I don't know if you saw but I thank you for those alternatives to 'which' - I keep forgetting to include the person's nick when I reply
[13:02] <sandertje> howlymowly: first try the following:  `sudo dpkg --configure -a`
[13:03] <sandertje> howlymowly: this can take a while
[13:03] <howlymowly> kk.. i'll try
[13:03] <sandertje> howlymowly: then run `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` again
[13:03] <jhutchins_wk> howlymowly: 1)comment out/move all ppa's from /etc/apt/sources.list /sources.d/  2) aptitude update 3) aptitude-autoremove 4)aptitude -f install 5) add other desired packages 6) restore ppa's & proceed.
[13:04] <jhutchins_wk> howlymowly: dist-upgrade is probably a good idea before you restore the ppas.
[13:04] <asm32dev> emerge-webrsync
[13:04] <asm32dev> sorry
[13:04] <asm32dev> wrong window
[13:08] <kiwi_> using gnome classic on 12.04 the items 'logout' and 'shutdown' are missing in the gnome menu, besides 'places' is a separate menu ... how can i make the menu include logout, shutdown and places?
[13:10] <xubuntu299> hello, how do I recover files from other user session with live cd ( I can't login from graphical user interface there)
[13:11] <kiwi_> ok i deleted the menu and relaunched it , everything is fine now
[13:11] <xubuntu299> I'm using web irc from xubuntu.org/irc/ sorry for nick
[13:11] <Teleport> Have a question about executing anyone?
[13:11] <Teleport> Have a question about executing, anyone?*
[13:11] <ObrienDave> much better LOL
[13:12] <cfhowlett> :0
[13:12] <jhutchins_wk> xubuntu299: What do you mean "recover files"?
[13:12] <xubuntu299> Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop
[13:13] <asm32dev> xubuntu299, cp them?)
[13:13] <xubuntu299> cp trough tty?
[13:14] <DJones> Teleport: Maybe give some more details so the channel has a better idea on the problem
[13:14] <asm32dev> yes
[13:14] <ObrienDave> "executing, anyone" will get you into less trouble than "executing anyone" LOL amazing how much difference a comma makes ;)
[13:14] <xubuntu299> asm32dev man, I have so many files
[13:14] <asm32dev> cp * ?)
[13:14] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, killall, kill -9
[13:14] <ObrienDave> LOL
[13:14] <asm32dev> so you can cp -R *
[13:19] <Teleport> DJones sudo chmod 755 DSMIDIWiFi ; ./DSMIDIWiFi
[13:19] <Teleport> bash: ./DSMIDIWiFi: Permission denied
[13:20] <lecoeus> Teleport: check the owner of the file
[13:21] <DJones> Teleport: What is DSMIDIWiFi ? What type of file is it
[13:21] <ubuntu_user> I can't login in other user, cause it takes me out to login screen
[13:21] <ubuntu_user> how do I get files from there
[13:21] <ubuntu_user> please, good suggestions could help
[13:22] <cfhowlett> ubuntu_user, su otherusername    then enter that password
[13:22] <ubuntu_user> Signature not found in user keyring
[13:23] <ubuntu_user> Perhaps try the interactive 'ecryptfs-mount-private'
[13:24] <ubuntu_user> nautilus
[13:24] <ubuntu_user> No protocol specified
[13:24] <ubuntu_user> No protocol specified
[13:24] <ubuntu_user> Could not parse arguments: Nevar atvērt ekrānu —
[13:24] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_user: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:26] <ubuntu_user> I can't nautilus other user folder
[13:28] <ubuntu_user> No protocol specified
[13:28] <ubuntu_user> I can do cp username username 2
[13:28] <ubuntu_user> help me please
[13:29] <compdoc> just came in so not sure what youre trying to do, but have you tried: sudo nautilus &
[13:30] <ubuntu_user> nothing comes up
[13:30] <compdoc> oops
[13:30] <compdoc> gksu nautilus &
[13:30] <compdoc> forgot
[13:30] <ubuntu_user>  Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[13:31] <compdoc> you using ssh?
[13:31] <ubuntu_user> I'm using other account
[13:31] <compdoc> that command needs a desktop
[13:31] <ubuntu_user> ............
[13:31] <ubuntu_user> I have desktop
[13:31] <ubuntu_user> why in first I can't login that other account
[13:32] <ubuntu_user> in graphical environment
[13:32] <m> o
[13:32] <ubuntu_user> I'm so frustrated this time, never knew something can happen for no reason
[13:33] <ubuntu_user> I can't even cp that directory
[13:33] <geirha> ubuntu_user: how did you create the other user?
[13:34] <ubuntu_user> it was default user all the time
[13:34] <ubuntu_user> with installation
[13:34] <ubuntu_user> the one I'm using right now, using account tools in ubuntu
[13:34] <ubuntu_user> I don
[13:34] <ubuntu_user> t have days to waste on this
[13:34] <radioiaaneg> hi all
[13:34] <geirha> you can't log in with the initially created user, but you can log in with a user you created afterwards?
[13:35] <ubuntu_user> thats what I wrote since I am here
[13:36] <geirha> ok, and you have encrypted home, so it sounds like the file used for decrypting the homedir might have been removed
[13:36] <Daekdroom> Whenever I try to download a RAR/Zip file with Firefox, File roller does - not - show up in "Open with...", which is quite a hassle when it's a small file I'm going to use quickly. Any ways to make it show up there?
[13:37] <geirha> If that's the case, I've no idea how to recover it, or if it's possible to recover it
[13:37] <ubuntu_user> geirha, why I can't login in first place
[13:37] <geirha> ubuntu_user: You've never logged in with that user?
[13:38] <ubuntu_user> I TOLD IT WAS FIRST USER CREATED ON INSTALLATION
[13:38] <geirha> ubuntu_user: Yes, I got that, but has it ever worked?
[13:38] <jgcampbell300> darn ... i was reading up on some kind of web based proxy / server for remote sessions before my computer crashed on me ... now i cant find it for anything ... i cant rember the terms i was searching anyone got any hints
[13:39] <ubuntu_user> I have plenty of files on it
[13:39] <ubuntu_user> ofcourse it worked
[13:39] <radioiaaneg> my notebook running ubuntu 13.04 cant seem to connect again to the ethernet network if awaken after suspend mode. the only way to reconnect seems to be restarting! Any help?
[13:39] <ubuntu_user> why would I want to get acc with no value
[13:39] <sventon> hi all, I want to be able to create applications using web technologies (js,html,css) without the need to have a window manager like Gnome installed. I have difficulties to understand the underlying technology. So far I been looking at  ChromiumOS, FirefoxOS, JoliOS, and Node-Webkit. I am not really able to understand the technical differences between this projects. Can somebody give me some hints ?
[13:39] <geirha> ubuntu_user: Is it possible you moved or deleted some important files last time you were logged in as that user?
[13:39] <ubuntu_user> sventon, go #chrome, and don't waste ubuntu helps time
[13:39] <ubuntu_user> no
[13:40] <ubuntu_user> last time, electricity ended for laptop, and that was it
[13:40] <ubuntu_user> it went sleep
[13:40] <Pici> sventon: maybe ##linux would be more appropriate for your question
[13:40] <ubuntu_user> afterwards, can't login
[13:40] <sventon> ubuntu_user: but I want to run this on top of ubuntu/debian
[13:41] <geirha> ubuntu_user: Hm. So maybe the encrypted filesystem got corrupted. I don't have any experience with ecryptfs though, so not sure how to fix it.
[13:41] <sventon> Pici: ok, will try there insted. Thanks
[13:41] <ubuntu_user> :<<<<
[13:41] <ubuntu_user> common
[13:41] <ubuntu_user> cmmon
[13:41] <ubuntu_user> I'm not going to waste all the files
[13:41] <ubuntu_user> damn it
[13:42] <sw> Hi   If installing from source and the app says  "Requires JAVA"    what package in  Ubuntu should  be installed?
[13:42] <sw> There's tons of JAVA packages ...
[13:42] <ubuntu_user> why I can't nautilus
[13:42] <ubuntu_user> but can cd
[13:42] <ubuntu_user> that user
[13:42] <ubuntu_user> whyyyyy
[13:43] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_user: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:43] <Kalel> Greetings.
[13:43] <ubuntu_user> greetings
[13:44] <ubuntu_user> nobody really can't help
[13:44] <ubuntu_user> I'm stuck in this
[13:44] <Kalel> Later i had installed 3.11.6-031106-generic kernel, my wi-fi doesn't works anymore. How can I fix it?
[13:44] <Miencer> I simple can't boot :D
[13:44] <Miencer> simply :3
[13:44] <dawidekmichalek> nio
[13:44] <dawidekmichalek> hejos
[13:45] <dawidekmichalek> mobilki mobilki halo
[13:45] <geirha> ubuntu_user: did you try ecryptfs-mount-private ?
[13:45] <dawidekmichalek> dzień dobry skarbeńki kochane
[13:45] <ObrienDave> Kalel, go back to previous kernel
[13:45] <dawidekmichalek> nie backuj
[13:45] <DJones> !pl | dawidekmichalek
[13:45] <ubuntu_user> ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[13:45] <ubuntu_user> HELP ME
[13:45] <dawidekmichalek> w dupie mam wasz jezyk
[13:45] <dawidekmichalek> ja jestem polakiem
[13:45] <ubuntu_user> HELP ME
[13:45] <ubuntu_user> damn it
[13:45] <dawidekmichalek> sie kurwa powies
[13:45]  * Touhou11 throws cold water over ubuntu_user 
[13:45] <geirha> ubuntu_user: calm down
[13:46] <dawidekmichalek> daj mnie bana
[13:46] <compdoc> ubuntu_user, why not boot the computer with the live dvd and rescue your files, or wahtever youre trying to do
[13:46] <dawidekmichalek> pragne tego
[13:46] <ObrienDave> !cz | dawidekmichalek
[13:46] <ubuntu_user> compdoc I tried
[13:47] <Kalel> ObrienDave: I've got some good improves with this kernel. I wouldn't like to return using 3.0.33 kernel.. Is that a driver issue, like for example wi-fi driver?
[13:47] <compdoc> ubuntu_user, was it encrypted?
[13:47] <dawidekmichalek> co ty chesz?
[13:47] <dawidekmichalek> wlecom
[13:47] <geirha> ubuntu_user: change to the user first, then run ecryptfs-mount-private:    su - problem_user      then    ecryptfs-mount-private
[13:47] <ubuntu_user> YES
[13:47] <dawidekmichalek> jak wlecom to luz
[13:47] <dawidekmichalek> u mnie owcy juz zeszly z hal
[13:47] <ObrienDave> Kalel, could be. I couldn't tell you
[13:47] <DJones> dawidekmichalek: This channel is English language only
[13:47] <dawidekmichalek> you too
[13:47] <dawidekmichalek> please go back home
[13:48] <dawidekmichalek> Mars to jest se ciastko
[13:48] <dawidekmichalek> fungibar ulotny
[13:48] <Pici> !pl | dawidekmichalek
[13:48] <ubuntu_user> I can't
[13:49] <geirha> can't what?
[13:49] <ubuntu_user> geirha that doesn't help
[13:49] <geirha> ubuntu_user: what happens?
[13:49] <ubuntu_user> I already gave everything
[13:49] <ubuntu_user> ecryptfs-mount-private
[13:49] <ubuntu_user>  does nothing
[13:49] <ubuntu_user> after su user
[13:49] <ObrienDave> *bites tongue and nibbles fingers*
[13:50] <ubuntu_user> I can't nautilus that user folder
[13:50] <ubuntu_user> WHY
[13:50] <ubuntu_user> Could not parse arguments: Nevar atvērt ekrānu —
[13:50] <M00sL0gB0t> ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/willie/coretasks.py", line 132, in track_modes)
[13:50] <ubuntu_user> cp userdir otheruserdir
[13:50] <ubuntu_user> doesn't work
[13:51] <geirha> ubuntu_user: "Could not parse arguments: Nevar atvērt ekrānu" what does "Nevar atvērt ekrānu" mean?
[13:51] <ubuntu_user> Can't open desktop
[13:51] <geirha> ubuntu_user: that was output when you ran ecryptfs-mount-private?
[13:52] <ubuntu_user> nothing
[13:52] <ubuntu_user> was output
[13:52] <geirha> ubuntu_user: that sounds good. Now run   cd ~; ls
[13:53] <ubuntu_user> ls
[13:53] <ubuntu_user>  gives all the dirs and files
[13:53] <ubuntu_user> from that user
[13:53] <ubuntu_user> I can't just get to them
[13:53] <ubuntu_user> any other way
[13:53] <geirha> ubuntu_user: see if you can login graphically now..?
[13:53] <ubuntu_user> I can't nautilus
[13:53] <ubuntu_user> I can't
[13:53] <Touhou11> ubuntu_user: Have you read the Wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory There are instructions on using a LiveCD to recover your files
[13:53] <geirha> you can't, or you can't be bother to try?
[13:54] <ubuntu_user> I have done it several times Touhou11
[13:54] <geirha> ubuntu_user: have you done it after running that ecryptfs-mount-private command?
[13:54] <geirha> logged in graphically
[13:54] <ubuntu_user> I need those files, I tried every trick
[13:54] <Touhou11> ubuntu_user: You tried sudo ecryptfs-recover-private?
[13:55] <ubuntu_user> INFO: Searching for encrypted private directories (this might take a while)...
[13:56] <Kalel> I want see my wi-fi card model. lsusb doesn't show it.
[13:57] <wet88> hi guys ...i have a question for you ... so...I have dual-OS ubuntu and win8 and... I saved a pdf in ubuntu on a hd that is available on win8 ...and when I entered in win8 the file was there for 1-2 seconds and then vanished (completely deleted) ...any idea why?
[13:58] <Kalel> Which command should I run and see wi-fi informations?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> Kalel. iwconfig
[14:01] <Kalel> BluesKaj: no wireless extensions
[14:01] <Kalel> BluesKaj: Just happen with 3.11.6-031106-generic kernel. I should change it.
[14:01] <BluesKaj> Kalel. sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Kalel. changing kernels may make things worse
[14:03] <Kalel> BluesKaj: wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[14:03] <ubuntu_user> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6421330/
[14:03] <ubuntu_user> this happened
[14:04] <Kalel> BluesKaj: Yes, I think so either.
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Kalel. sudo dhclient wlan0
[14:05] <ubuntu_user> I can't login as other user
[14:05] <ubuntu_user> help
[14:06] <Kalel> BluesKaj: Cannot find wlan0 device..
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Kalel. sudo iwconfig wlan0 up , sorry i should have suggested this command first
[14:08] <Kalel> BluesKaj: I think 3.11 IRC kernels still unsupported, the better choice is come back to newest available. Disappointing.
[14:09] <Kalel> BluesKaj: No such device, its unrecognizable.
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Kalel. well , that's about all i can suggest :/
[14:11] <Kalel> BluesKaj: I appreciate your help. Thank you.
[14:12] <crunch-choco> hi there, can we do flash-like animation with ubuntu?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> Kalel. going to upgrade to the 3.12 kernel?
[14:14] <yrolj> is it worth using dvorak?
[14:14] <Guest36372> #khonggiancongdong
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Kalel.  http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/linux-kernel-3-12-released-install-ubuntu-or-linux-mint/
[14:15] <guenhael> hi
[14:16] <guenhael> I have a problem when installing python-dev on ubuntu 12.04
[14:16] <yrolj> is it worth using dvorak?
[14:16] <ubuntu_user> I still can't login in my first created user dir
[14:16] <guenhael> it says : Package python-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[14:16] <Touhou11> crunch-choco: You want to make an animation in the Flash format? Not sure what you mean by Flash-like, it's a software platform rather than a style
[14:16] <guenhael> can anyone help me please?
[14:18] <gvo> guenhael: Did you try to apt-get install python-dev?
[14:19] <crunch-choco> Touhou11, not necessarily swf format, but some short light animations, for the web
[14:21] <Kalel> Actually I was thinking upgrade to 3.8.0.35, the newest available on ubuntu-base repositories.
[14:21] <gvo> guenhael: According to apt-cache policy python-dev, it's in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[14:23] <Kalel> BluesKaj, actually I was thinking upgrade to 3.8.0.35, the newest available on ubuntu-base repositories.
[14:23] <debasis> hello friends...i am trying to install Oracle in my ubuntu system...but its not installing....can any one help me?
[14:23] <Kalel> BluesKaj: Therefore i can have a look in the link.
[14:23] <jhutchins_wk> Kalel: If lspci doesn't show it, does it show an unidentified device?
[14:23] <guenhael> I'm not very good with all of that
[14:24] <guenhael> what should I do exactly?
[14:25] <jhutchins_wk>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the
[14:25] <jhutchins_wk>                recommended way to set up your repositories.
[14:25] <debasis> anyone can help me?
[14:25] <jhutchins_wk> guenhael: See above - you probably need to add a repo.
[14:25] <BluesKaj> Kalel. that's not an upgrade , but if it's the newest for your ubuntu version then it's worth a try
[14:25] <Kalel> jhutchins_wk: Blueskaj: 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[14:25] <eutheria> i install the oxygen gtk theme, i was wondering how i could remove the up arrow at the bottom of a scrollbar
[14:25] <debasis> i cant install Oracle in ubuntu
[14:26] <jhutchins_wk> Kalel: bcm43's have worked for years but need firmware.  Thw work with 2.6 kernels.
[14:26] <BluesKaj> odd usually BCM drivers install by default
[14:26] <jhutchins_wk> debasis: Actually, you can, but you need the instructions from Oracle, not Ubuntu.
[14:26] <debasis> HELLO....SOME ONE TELL ME HOW I CAN INSTALL ORACLE IN MY UBUNTU?...PLZ
[14:26] <guenhael> but how can I know which repo I need
[14:26] <jhutchins_wk> debasis: Yelling won't help.
[14:26] <ubuntu_user> HELP Me please
[14:27] <Kalel> I'm searching for an relationated issue or a new firmware for my card.
[14:27] <ubuntu_user> CAN'T LOGIN In my other user
[14:27] <ubuntu_user> from login screen
[14:27] <asm32dev> lads, what app can i use to multiply my terminals except terminator?
[14:27] <ubuntu_user> lightdm
[14:27] <jhutchins_wk> guenhael: Get the standard/recommended ones set up as shown in those links and see if that works.
[14:27] <Silass22> #
[14:27] <Pici> !patience | ubuntu_user
[14:27] <ubuntu_user> I am stuck here for more than day
[14:27] <ubuntu_user> for no reason
[14:28] <jhutchins_wk> ubuntu_user: Have you created the other user?
[14:28] <remoteCTRL> is there any alternative to indicator-date? i dont want evolution installed...
[14:28] <ubuntu_user> jhutchins_wk: WHAT
[14:28] <ubuntu_user> seriously
[14:28] <jhutchins_wk> asm32dev: What do youy mean multiply terminals?
[14:29] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu_user: how did you create the other user?
[14:29] <femian> Hola como están. Alguien sabe como hacer funcionar una multifunción brother dcp-j140w en ubuntu 10.04?
[14:29] <remoteCTRL> ubuntu_user: define: cannot login, do you see the username, can you choose it, do you get an error whil eloading the desktop, waht is the problem?
[14:29] <asm32dev> jhutchins_wk, this: http://iceimg.com/hBUSFn1N/snapshot5.png
[14:29] <remoteCTRL> !es | femian
[14:30] <BluesKaj> !es | femian
[14:30] <femian> ok
[14:30] <ubuntu_user>  su username
[14:30] <ubuntu_user> Parole:
[14:30] <ubuntu_user> Signature not found in user keyring
[14:30] <ubuntu_user> Perhaps try the interactive 'ecryptfs-mount-private'
[14:30] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_user: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:30] <jhutchins_wk> asm32dev: Possibly tmux.
[14:30] <ubuntu_user> I tried
[14:31] <ubuntu_user> I can't get my files
[14:31] <asm32dev> jhutchins_wk, thanks
[14:31] <femian> Hello how are. Anyone know how to run a multi-J140W brother dcp in ubuntu 10.04?
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu_user: again i ask, How did you create the user exactly?
[14:31] <asm32dev> so can i make fonts in gtk more readable? i'm using kubuntu 13.04
[14:31] <ubuntu_user> WITH UBUNTU
[14:32] <ubuntu_user> hitsujiTMO:
[14:32] <ubuntu_user> SERIOUSLY
[14:32] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_user: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:32] <ubuntu_user> USING ACCOUNT MANAGER IN UBUNTU
[14:32] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu_user: there's 5 million ways you can create a user. how EXACTLY did you create the user?
[14:32] <ObrienDave> dang, too bad I have to get to sleep soon. ;))
[14:32] <ubuntu_user> hitsujiTMO: using ACCCOUNT MANAGER
[14:33] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu_user: can you paste the output of: cat /etc/passwd | grep <username>
[14:33] <ubuntu_user> PRESS on your name in Ubuntu right corner
[14:34] <ubuntu_user> then press user accounts
[14:34] <ubuntu_user> and from there
[14:34] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu_user: obviously replacing <username> with the actual username for the caccount you created
[14:34] <jhutchins_wk> It sounds like ubuntu_user is having problems with an encrypted filesystem, not with user logins.
[14:35] <ubuntu_user> ronalds:x:1000:1000:Ronalds,,,:/home/ronalds:/bin/bash
[14:35] <ubuntu_user> ronalds2:x:1004:1005:Ronalds2,,,:/home/ronalds2:/bin/bash
[14:35] <ubuntu_user> what does this gives you
[14:35] <paws> i accidently added some wrongs lines in the visudo (/etc/sudoers) and now i cant sudo with my main user...
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu_user: and it's ronalds2 that you cannot log into?
[14:36] <paws> is there any way to login as root directly?
[14:36] <somethingrandom> hey folks, i imported some data from a hfs+ disk and now the folders are owned by root, how can i fix the permissions for them?
[14:36] <ubuntu_user> obviosly ronalds not 2 one
[14:36] <ObrienDave> no, it is NOT obvious. CHILL dude
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu_user: sorry last sentence does not make sense. can you clarify what account if those 2 that you cannot log into
[14:37] <remoteCTRL> !permissions > somethingrandom
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> that sentence^      of*
[14:39] <gvo> paws: Only if you put a password on root.  Ubuntu doesn't.
[14:40] <hitsujiTMO> paws: you need to boot into recovery mode from the grub menu or boot a live cd and mount the filesystem to fix it.
[14:40] <somethingrandom> remoteCTRL, yeah, i read that already
[14:40] <remoteCTRL> somethingrandom: so whats the actual question?
[14:41] <somethingrandom> not super clear for me, i should do "sudo chown user" and how do i do that for a dir and files in dir in that dir?
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> SomeDamnBody: sudo chown -R user:user /path/to/dir
[14:42] <gvo> somethingrandom: How did you "import" the files?
[14:42] <somethingrandom> ah, that's it?
[14:42] <remoteCTRL> somethingrandom: for example chown -r somethingrandom:somethingrandom /path/to/file
[14:42] <gvo> remoteCTRL: I think its -R
[14:42] <nightdemon666> that must be a -R i tghink.. not -r
[14:42] <remoteCTRL> gvo: youre of course right, thanks
[14:43] <Miencer> thats something bad to mess up XD
[14:43] <somethingrandom> thanks remoteCTRL
[14:43] <remoteCTRL> somethingrandom: np :)
[14:43] <somethingrandom> and hitsujiTMO
[14:43] <somethingrandom> gvo, mounted the hfs+ partition on ubuntu
[14:44] <somethingrandom> easy peasy
[14:44] <nightdemon666> something random, you can also change the file permissions with chmod...
[14:44] <gvo> Be careful.  You might not be able to use it again on a MAC if you dink with the structure on Ubuntu
[14:45] <somethingrandom> nightdemon666, i think it's just the user
[14:45] <somethingrandom> thanks
[14:45] <Silass22> #
[14:45] <somethingrandom> gvo, no worries, i copied the data from my macbooks ssd to the ubuntu laptop
[14:46] <gvo> OK
[14:47] <Chillax86> Hi everyone, I would like to know if any knows when the problem with grubs "os_prober" will be fixed for those that don't know, Ubuntu 12.04 set-up will install correctly with UEFI Secure Boot with GPT Partitioning but GRUB's menu is not able to load windows 8 without running boot-repair which stops shimx64.efi (secure boot) from working
[14:47] <somethingrandom> a bit annoying having to decrypt the disk, will have to do that too for when i transfer my movies from my hfs+ encrypted disk to my ext4 encrypted
[14:47] <bcurtiswx> i remove all my online accounts but I keep geting this Authenitcation Request popup on login
[14:47] <bcurtiswx> how do I get rid of that?
[14:47] <somethingrandom> but there are always ways :)
[14:49] <Chillax86> Hi everyone, I would like to know if any knows when the problem with grubs "os_prober" will be fixed for those that don't know, Ubuntu 12.04 set-up will install correctly with UEFI Secure Boot with GPT Partitioning but GRUB's menu is not able to load windows 8 without running boot-repair which stops shimx64.efi (secure boot) from working
[14:50] <somethingrandom> yay, dropbox, wuala and spideroak are syncing again
[14:51] <xubuntu906> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6421554/ help me, here is ubuntu_user from live cd
[14:52] <xubuntu906> I couldn't recover files
[14:55] <xubuntu906> HELP, can't login as other user, CAN'T RECOVER files from live cd
[14:56] <Pici> 70
[14:56] <xubuntu906> sudo ecryptfs-recover-private
[14:56] <xubuntu906> doesn't work
[14:56] <xubuntu906> HELP
[14:56] <xubuntu906> pleassse
[14:56] <FloodBot1> xubuntu906: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:57]  * LinuxGold forgot what file he need to edit to enable xubuntu from console 
[14:57] <xubuntu906> ................
[14:58] <Pici> xubuntu906: please stop.  If someone knows how to help you, they will help.
[14:58] <ObrienDave> heeeeeee's baaaaaaaack ;)
[14:58] <gvo> I think it's ubuntu_user under a different name.
[14:58] <Pici> It is.
[14:58] <ObrienDave> ya think? ;))
[14:58] <Pici> They stated that.  No need to make comments on it.
[14:59] <xubuntu906> I AM UBUNTU_USER under different name
[14:59] <xubuntu906> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6421554/
[14:59] <Pici> !patience | xubuntu906
[14:59] <xubuntu906> read pls
[15:00] <CatKiller> xubuntu906: Some good info there: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60601/unwrapping-passphrase-and-inserting-into-the-user-session-keyring-failed
[15:00] <CatKiller> And also here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36573/trying-to-mount-old-encrypted-home/36783#36783
[15:02] <MrMonkey31> like I'm pretty new to permissions & commandline... how can I view what "groups" exist on my system?
[15:03] <CatKiller> cat /etc/groups
[15:03] <CatKiller> sorry cat /etc/group
[15:03] <MrMonkey31> Catkiller: thanks!
[15:03] <CatKiller> np
[15:04] <MrMonkey31> so most stuff of this sort there'll be a file for in etc/ ?
[15:04] <xubuntu906> this didn't help http://askubuntu.com/questions/60601/unwrapping-passphrase-and-inserting-into-the-user-session-keyring-failed
[15:04] <h0m1x> How to start reading codes?
[15:04] <cynicist> MrMonkey31: you can also just type in 'groups' to see the groups for your current user
[15:04] <h0m1x> I mean, how to start reading codes of big projects? where to start from? how should we know where the coder started from to code a project? we don't have the plan of the project to see where to start from so what should we do?
[15:04] <xubuntu906> thanks ubuntu for ruining half year
[15:05] <CatKiller> xubuntu906: If you have the key to decrypt you'll probably find a way
[15:05] <CatKiller> xubuntu906: Only it won't be that easy
[15:06] <MrMonkey31> cynicist: nice. good to have these hints when it's morning time & I'm bugging out
[15:06] <mustmodify> confused... I added a user to a group using usermod -a -G production sftp but now I want to undo that.... someone is telling me to use deluser but that seems like the path to chaos. Any other way?
[15:06] <h0m1x> Thanks for your complete guidance channel!
[15:06] <CatKiller> If you're in a rush maybe you could request paid support
[15:06] <CatKiller> http://www.ubuntu.com/management
[15:06] <CatKiller> xubuntu906: Seems to me (since you had not even found the links I sent by yourself) that you have been looking for a solution for a few minutes only
[15:06] <cynicist> MrMonkey31: lol, sure thing
[15:07] <CatKiller> expecting the answer right away
[15:07] <cannonball> Hi!  I'm trying to add an apt repository.  I'm a little unsure how URL's map to PPA's.  The repository I'm trying to add is given as 'https://launchpad.net/~unit3/+archive/bfgminer'.  I think I need to convert that to a 'ppa:blah/blah' but I'm not sure how to do that.  apt-add-repository does not accept that raw URL.  Suggestions?  URL's that explain that are also welcome!
[15:07] <CatKiller> otherwise deciding that you lost an entire year worth of data
[15:07] <xubuntu906> I'am already trying to get my files for a day
[15:07] <xubuntu906> tnx ubuntu for stopping me on login
[15:07] <xubuntu906> I did nothing
[15:07] <CatKiller> And you didn't check google? :p
[15:07] <xubuntu906> CatKIller I checked your mother
[15:07] <Pici> CatKiller: iirc, there are no more user contracts for Ubuntu support from Canonical. Only commercial.
[15:07] <xubuntu906> FUCK THIS
[15:07] <FloodBot1> xubuntu906: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:07] <CatKiller> That's it, bye
[15:08] <mattp_> hi. can someone paste me what my sources.list should be for an upgrade to ubuntu latest?
[15:08] <CatKiller> Pici: Good to know, I didn't
[15:08] <mattp_> i want to upgrade to 13.10
[15:09] <Pici> mattp_: You shouldn't touch your sources.list to upgrade to a new release.
[15:09] <jhutchins_wk> mattp_: Got a backup?
[15:09] <mattp_> i should just nuke and reinstall
[15:09] <mattp_> im using a work provided custom ubuntu
[15:09] <mattp_> i want to toss all that shit
[15:09] <FloodBot1> mattp_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:10] <cannonball> Ugh, never mind.  I found it.  That URL has the info I needed *in* it, it's not the repository itself.  Sorry for the dumb question.
[15:11] <BluesKaj> cannonball. choose the section , techical details about this ppa , then choose your OS version in the "Display sources.list entries for" , then copy and paste the debs to your :/etc/apt/sources.list  , then update and upgrade
[15:11] <Chillax86_> Does anyone know when the problem with Ubuntu's GRUB for Windows 8 UEFI GPT will be fixed
[15:12] <Chillax86_> It does not load windows without needing boot-repair to be run
[15:12] <MrMonkey31> later, taters!
[15:12] <cannonball> BluesKaj: Thanks, but it's not an upgrade.  It's a specific repo for a package I'm trying to install on a bitcoin miner.  It appears that it doesn't support the older version of Ubuntu I'm running (Maverick).  Will just build another I suppose.
[15:12]  * MrMonkey31 le waves
[15:12] <Chillax86_> The problem seems to be cuased by the os_prober function
[15:12] <cynicist> mustmodify: there are two ways of doing it, you can use 'usermod -G group1, group 2, group3 username' and simply make sure to include every group except the one you want to remove, or you can use 'deluser user group' (deluser doesn't delete group or user if you are using both options), another way is 'gpasswd -d user group'
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Chillax86_. once you riun boot-repair make sure you run sudo update-grub in ubuntu
[15:13] <mustmodify> cynicist: ok. Seems like there should be a usermod -r if there is a usermod -a. But whatever. Organic growth is messy.
[15:13] <mustmodify> cynicist: thanks
[15:14] <Chillax86_> yeah done that but boot-repair stop shimx64.efi (secure boot) from working
[15:14] <cynicist> mustmodify: that is what deluser is for, it is just scary because if used improperly you can actually delete your user or group entirely. I do agree with you though, it makes things unnecessarily complicated.
[15:15] <Chillax86_> so was wondering if anyone knew when Ubuntu/GRUB was going to fix the install without needing to run boot-repair and keep secure boot switchede on
[15:15] <asm32dev> hi lads
[15:15] <asm32dev> how to build weechat?)
[15:16] <Chillax86_> BluesKaj yeah done that but boot-repair stop shimx64.efi (secure boot) from working
[15:16] <cynicist> I just just realized I haven't used windows in so long that I can't answer questions related to getting ubuntu to work with it anymore :(
[15:16] <Chillax86_> BluesKaj so was wondering if anyone knew when Ubuntu/GRUB was going to fix the install without needing to run boot-repair and keep secure boot switchede on
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Chillax86_. sorry i don't much about that . whether secure boot is necessary or not
[15:17] <BluesKaj> know
[15:20] <Chillax86_> Secure boot is not necessary but when you need to install Ubuntu on 12 machines of which the person would like secure boot to stay enabled it becomes a problem lol
[15:20] <jhutchins_wk> Chillax86_: The whole point of secureboot is to prevent you  from loading something like Ubuntu, so I don't think there's any scheduled plan for Ubuntu to fix it.  It's not something Ubuntu does.
[15:24] <Chillax86_> jhutchins_wk I'm affraid you are wrong secure boot just means that all boot binaries must be signed by a CA included in the UEFI signature database of which most hardware vendors have only included Microsoft's Key so that is why the linux foundation and most linux distros have paid $99 to microsoft to get there binaries signed.
[15:25] <resure> How can I change tabs color of the inactive terminal window? http://imgur.com/uKisvVp,6JlrCDq
[15:26] <sivel__> im using ubu 12.10 with xen 4.1 and pci passthrough to windows 7 flawlessly, but on my ubu desktop, after about 10 minutes of being on it gets extremely sluggish as far as the mouse is concerned. memory is well within limits. on the windows side, works great. any ideas as to the sliggishness ?
[15:28] <ghostmediapro> ubuntu 12.04, is there anyway to forward the whole desktop session over ssh/x11 vers just a single application such as firefox
[15:28] <impradeepy> please tell me hardware diagnostic tools for ubuntu
[15:28] <impradeepy> like for fan errors
[15:31] <gvo> ghostmediapro: You can use one of the vnc programs.
[15:31] <gvo> tightvnc or nomachine are good choices.
[15:33] <ubuntu_user> help me, I'm exausted
[15:33] <machinarius> Hey guys, i am running Saucy on a Lenovo S400u that is connected to a Samsung smart tv via HDMI and i am seeing the picture partially cut around the edges - I only see an inner rectangle of the whole screen. Is there any advice you can give me to solve this problem?
[15:33] <ubuntu_user> I can't login my old user
[15:33] <machinarius> I tried getting the 01.org drivers but they work up to Raring only
[15:34] <machinarius> Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[15:34] <joelteon> when I execute "start mysql", there's no output and a 0 exit code, and mysql doesn't start
[15:34] <joelteon> why is this happening
[15:34] <machinarius> joelteon, i think you should run sudo service mysql start
[15:35] <joelteon> no output from tha teither
[15:35] <joelteon> that* either
[15:35] <machinarius> weird
[15:35] <joelteon> start/stop/status are upstart, aren't they?
[15:35] <joelteon> that's what the init script recommends
[15:35] <ubuntu_user> please help me, I can't even sudo nautilus /var/www and save those files
[15:36] <machinarius> Yes, but i *think* upstart got nuked in favour of a different solution
[15:36] <ubuntu_user> how on earth I suddenly lost possibility to login my ubuntu user, without messing with anything
[15:36] <machinarius> ubuntu_user, have you tried using command line tools instead of nautilues? as in cp, mv, rm....
[15:36] <joelteon> I can't get upstart or service or anything to produce output at all
[15:36] <ubuntu_user> machinarius
[15:36] <machinarius> cat, nano...
[15:36] <ubuntu_user> I can't get my files from tty
[15:36] <ubuntu_user> also
[15:37] <machinarius> ubuntu_user, describe your situation please
[15:38] <ubuntu_user> I can't access my files on other admin user
[15:38] <joelteon> oh wait, you know what? it's 100% my fault
[15:38] <joelteon> this script symlinks /sbin/initctl to /bin/true
[15:38] <ubuntu_user> ecryptfs-mount doesn't works
[15:38] <joelteon> wow, i look like an idiot now
[15:38] <joelteon> ok thanks everyone
[15:38] <ubuntu_user> I'm here almost a day
[15:39] <i_> good evening
[15:39] <ubuntu_user> I can't launch nautilus from other user
[15:39] <ubuntu_user> when I do su
[15:39] <ubuntu_user> please help
[15:40] <ubuntu_user> I tried live CD and I couldn't get my files
[15:41] <machinarius> ubuntu_user, well... do you really need to mess with another account's files?
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> WHAT?
[15:41] <cynicist> ubuntu_user: It would help to be more descriptive. Why does trying to copy your files not work?
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> I cannot even access them
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> from tty
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> 1
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> 2
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> 3
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> 4
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> and 5
[15:41] <jhutchins_wk> cynicist: He's been at this for a while.  He has an encrypted filesystem and there's something wrong with auth.
[15:42] <cynicist> jhutchins_wk: ah
[15:42] <ubuntu_user> ubuntu license ended
[15:42] <ubuntu_user> righht
[15:43] <ubuntu_user> I really need my files
[15:43] <ubuntu_user> when I do sudo nautilus /var/www
[15:43] <ubuntu_user> I can't copy them
[15:43] <machinarius> ubuntu_user, Im pretty sure that as long as you don't have the proper password you can't access an encrypted FS
[15:43] <ubuntu_user> I am screewd
[15:44] <machinarius> Even if you are root
[15:44] <ubuntu_user> I can really change password
[15:44] <ubuntu_user> CAUSE I HAVE ADMIN USER
[15:44] <ubuntu_user> that doesn't matter cause I can't get to my files
[15:45] <jhutchins_wk> The other problem is that we don't have a support channel for latvie.u valoda.
[15:45] <ubuntu_user> I write english so try
[15:45] <ubuntu_user> reading it
[15:45] <jhutchins_wk> Exactly.
[15:45] <ubuntu_user> what
[15:45] <ubuntu_user> exactly?
[15:46] <ubuntu_user> my system screwed
[15:46] <ubuntu_user> me
[15:46] <ubuntu_user> thanks ubuntu
[15:46] <josh__> Hello, can anybody answer I question I have regarding BIND on ubuntu?
[15:47] <ubuntu_user> never tought I will not be able for no f// reason to login or recover files trought live cd
[15:47] <ubuntu_user> or even get var/www files from non user folder
[15:47] <cynicist> ubuntu_user: Relax, the reason you can't recover the files is because you encrypted that directory
[15:47] <ubuntu_user> I can't I lost VALUE
[15:48] <ubuntu_user> I shouldn't have been here in first place
[15:48] <josh__> If I have manually installed BIND on ubuntu do I use named.conf.local or named.conf?
[15:49] <ubuntu_user> ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[15:49] <ubuntu_user> TRY MESSING WITH THIS
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> !caps | ubuntu_user
[15:49] <ubuntu_user> ecryptfs-mount-private  >>>>>>
[15:49] <ubuntu_user> ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[15:49] <ubuntu_user> but nobody knows why this on earth just happens
[15:50] <ubuntu_user> thanks ubuntu
[15:50] <LinuxGold> no
[15:50] <LinuxGold> it's you.
[15:50] <cynicist> ubuntu_user: dude seriously, nobody is going to want to help you if you spam, so stop doing it
[15:50] <ubuntu_user> what on earth I did
[15:50] <jhutchins_wk> ubuntu_user: It doesn't just happen.  YOU did it, not Ubuntu.  We are just fellow users here, and you have barely given us any concrete information, you're just complaining that it's all Ubuntu's fault.  It isn't Ubuntu, it's you.
[15:50] <Wiz_KeeD>   /join #openobject
[15:50] <ubuntu_user> NOBODY helps me for day already
[15:51] <ubuntu_user> WHAT I DID?
[15:51] <lduros> hi I start a python script in the background from ~/.profile. Is there any way I can bring it to the front?
[15:51] <LinuxGold> ubuntu_user:  you need to learn how to run linux before you run ubuntu.
[15:51] <cynicist> ubuntu_user: http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/how-to-recover-crypted-home-directory-in-ubuntu/
[15:51] <lduros> doing fg won't work obviously
[15:51] <k1l_> ubuntu_user: please take some time to calm down. then state all the informations and describe what your problem is. dont use enter that often.
[15:51] <cynicist> ubuntu_user: read that
[15:51] <jhutchins_wk> ubuntu_user: You are not communicating your problem, you're just complaining.  That's not going to get you a solution.
[15:51] <ubuntu_user> what I need to know when I can't login
[15:51] <ubuntu_user> for no fucking reason
[15:51] <ubuntu_user> sorry
[15:51] <LinuxGold> ubuntu_user: it is like whining that you couldn't write essay when you don't know how to write.
[15:51] <somsip> lduros: you could look at reptyr
[15:52] <lduros> somsip: what's reptyr?
[15:52] <LinuxGold> ubuntu_user: you need to install Windows and forget all about ubuntu -- windows knows how to meet your needs.
[15:52] <somsip> lduros: do you want me to search for you and post a url?
[15:52] <josh__> Please can someone help?
[15:53] <lduros> somsip: no but I just thought you could tell me how it would apply exactly to what i want to do, that' sall. I have the page up already
[15:53] <redeemed> I was trying to "mount" my galaxy s3 in 12.04 but with no luck.. any suggestions? :D
[15:53] <gvo> redeemed: Why?
[15:53] <somsip> lduros: I'd just be telling you whats on the page then. It might do something to help you, but it depends if you want a peristent change to how this script runs, or a one-off ifx
[15:53] <redeemed> gvo: why what?
[15:53] <lduros> somsip: ok fine
[15:53] <somsip> *fix
[15:53] <lduros> somsip: thanks
[15:53] <gvo> redeemed: why mount it?
[15:54] <redeemed> gvo: well not really mount it.. mtp-connect gave me some errors
[15:54] <cynicist> redeemed: you most likely need a new version of libmtp, I had similar issues with my nexus 4 that no longer exist on 13.10
[15:55] <gvo> redeemed: That's why I asked why.  If you want to use it as a modem?  do you want to see files? Etc.
[15:55] <DJones> redeemed: The version of Android on S3 changed its method of transferring data and physical cable connection weren't very easy up to 12.10, on 13.04, the Ubuntu drivers were updated & seems to work flawlessly since then, when I was 12.04/12.10, I ended up using the Android app Airdroid to connect wirelessly rather than by cable, you could look into gMTP on Ubuntu but I never had any luck with it
[15:55] <redeemed> gvo: just to see my files..
[15:56] <cynicist> redeemed: check this out, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[15:56] <sarthor> Hi, Is there any screen recorder equivalent to camtasia in Linux, I already tried, gtk-rdesktop and kazam, and the both are failing in several point like, if the session is going more than 2 hrs, So these application exit, also when I used to play huge files recorded by kazam or rdesktop, So Audio and Video are not on the same place, Audio goes forward, while videos stays back. HELP if there is some screen recoder better than these two.
[15:56] <gvo> if you want to stick to 12.04 use airdroid like DJones
[15:56] <redeemed> DJones: thanks.. didn't know that
[15:56] <sarthor> gtk_recoder*
[15:56] <gvo> redeemed: I also gave up on mtp
[15:57] <strit> sarthor, I use SimpleScreenRecorder. Haven't had any problems with it yet.
[15:57] <LinuxGold> anyone familiar with running xubuntu-desktop in virtualbox?
[15:57] <LinuxGold> I'm using iMac late 2012 machine
[15:57] <redeemed> cynicist: thanks.. will look into it
[15:57] <Eagleman> How can i put the following in an variable? accounts="/media/harddisks/data/users/user/Accounts & Passwords/"
[15:58] <cynicist> DJones: yeah it is libmtp specifically that needs to be updated, on 13.10 I have no issues with android devices and mtp anymore
[15:58] <DJones> cynicist: Same here, I didn't know which library it was that needed updating, but it was fixed from 13.04
[15:59] <Eagleman> How can i put the following in to a variable? accounts="/media/harddisks/data/users/user/Accounts & Passwords/"
[16:01] <kisaro> Regarding mtp, i just tried to set it up on my own and it seems to be working by just installing mtpfs. After that i could access my device via thunar
[16:01] <kiwi_> after installing 12.04 with gnome classic  there are no desktop icons, though there are files in ~/Desktop ... also, mouse right button click does not pop up the desktop context menu ..... anu idea?
[16:01] <machinarius> Guys anyone here has xrandr knowledge? I want to shrink the viewport of my HDMI-connected tv to solve a letteboxing problem
[16:02] <cynicist> kisaro: yeah the problem is that device support depends on what version you are running, and he is on an older version of ubuntu with an outdated library
[16:02] <jmgk> impradeepy: hey
[16:05] <kisaro> cynicist: oh you're right, I missed the line about it being fixed on 13.04 onwards (which were the version I did this on)
[16:05] <zykotick9> machinarius: you might want to try arandr, a gui frontend for xrandr
[16:05] <jmgk> impradeepy:
[16:06] <machinarius> zykotick9, thanks man
[16:08] <kisaro> has xrandr, or arandr in this case a way to autodetect when I connect anything via HDMI/VGA ?
[16:09] <machinarius> Hey, an option i had yet to see in TV fixed it
[16:09] <machinarius> Thanks guys
[16:09] <machinarius> kisaro, It will. If not just restart it
[16:10] <machinarius> kisaro, in fact xrandr will list all the available screens if ran with no args
[16:11] <kisaro> ah I should elaborate, I'm trying a slightly different setup right now, using openbox instead of unity.
[16:11] <cynicist> kiwi_: I would try running dconf-editor and checking org > gnome > desktop > background to see if draw-background is checked.
[16:12] <kiwi_> thank you
[16:12] <cynicist> kiwi_: that worked?
[16:13] <kiwi_> not yet, one moment ...
[16:14] <kiwi_> have to install dconf-tools first
[16:14] <cynicist> kiwi_: also install ubuntu-settings if it isnt installed
[16:15] <kiwi_> draw-background was already checked
[16:15] <kiwi_> there must be another reason
[16:15] <kiwi_> ok
[16:15] <pulsar78> need help installing wlan driver
[16:16] <cynicist> kiwi_: click on show desktop icons or set a background through dconf-editor as well, I think if ubuntu-settings is installed one of those options should convince nautilus to start drawing the desktop background again
[16:16] <kiwi_> cant find ubuntu-settings in synaptic
[16:17] <cynicist> kiwi_: try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-settings' from a terminal
[16:18] <jsc__> Hi. Does anyone know what might cause the device driver for one's Ethernet to not load?
[16:18] <ghostmediapro> gvo: vnc4server is not giving me access to what i want, it want work correctly i've tried many differnt confi
[16:18] <cynicist> kiwi_: and try checking the key 'show desktop icon' from dconf-editor
[16:19] <cynicist> pulsar78: do you know which driver you need?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> jsc__. run , dhclient eth0
[16:19] <kiwi_> cynicist, i just marked 'show desktop icons' as you said.  everything is fine now .... thank you
[16:19] <cynicist> kiwi_: excellent, yw :)
[16:19] <kiwi_> :-)
[16:19] <jsc__> One sec, blueskaj, will do
[16:21] <cynicist> jsc__: mind using http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to link the output of the command 'lspci'?
[16:21] <jsc__> BluesKaj> Nevermind apparently. Rebooting the 16th time is apparently what it took to solve that problem.
[16:22] <BluesKaj> jsc__. rememeber this command too , it will come in handy , sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:22] <jsc__> and cyncist, the problem was that the ethernet didn
[16:22] <jsc__> register in the lspci output
[16:23] <cynicist> jsc__: that's bizarre, not sure how your system would even know what to do if it couldn't detect an ethernet controller at all
[16:24] <jsc__> BluesKaj, I'll note that. Would it solve problems where a certain interface doesn't register in ifconfig, for instance?
[16:24] <cynicist> jsc__: glad it is fixed at least though
[16:24] <cynicist> jsc__: no it wouldn't
[16:24] <kiwi_> i cant see video preview images, however can play the youtube videos  .... any idea
[16:24] <BluesKaj> jsc__. amongst other things , yes
[16:24] <sooli> Hi there just a word about my new project http://solicms.com, a new free DB CMS ... Core engine is done, working on admin part now ... It will run of course on Ubuntu :)
[16:24] <jsc__> cynicist, I had installed tlp in an attempt to limit rampant power usage and somehow that completely wiped all evidence of there being an eth0 interface at al
[16:24] <cynicist> jsc__: if the interface doesn't register in ifconfig that is likely because the module (driver) for it isn't loaded
[16:25] <jhutchins_wk> jsc__: Any unidentified devices in lspci?
[16:25] <vAd0r> I am having issues getting apt-get to work with my proxy. I have created an apt.conf file and added Acquire::http::proxy "http://proxyname.domain.net:80/";
[16:25] <jhutchins_wk> Oops. scrollback...
[16:25] <vAd0r> can someone tell me what im missing
[16:25] <cynicist> jsc__: ah I dont have a laptop so I'm not familiar with what tlp does
[16:26] <robdog> hey is there a chat for scripts and encrytion around?
[16:27] <jsc__> tlp is supposed to be add-on functionality that helps but doesn't conflict with the power manager in place.
[16:27] <Pici> robdog: Theres ##security, but I don't know what you mean by 'scripts'
[16:27] <jsc__> But it recommends stuff like ethtool too, which I assume is where the problem occurred.
[16:27] <jsc__> i.e. that I overwrite some important configuration somewhere by installing it.
[16:27] <jsc__> And cynicist, lspci seems normal now. Nothing irregular, really.
[16:28] <jhutchins_wk> jsc__: So do you have ethernet or not?
[16:28] <cynicist> jhutchins_wk: he does
[16:29] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_wk. he already has it back
[16:29] <jsc__> jhutchins_wk, I do now
[16:29] <kiwi_> ok, forget the preview images ... i had a firefox plugin configured wrong
[16:29] <robdog> .sh stuff and bin bash stuff
[16:29] <Pici> robdog: #bash
[16:30] <jhutchins_wk> Great!  On to breaking the next thing!
[16:30] <robdog> trying to port over a script i created in windows needing help with the transpher
[16:30] <robdog> hmmm cool thanks...whats you experience with the subject pici
[16:31] <Pici> robdog: depends what the exact question is, but I'm in #bash, I'll look in and see if I can help.
[16:31] <Guest67219> exit
[16:31] <Guest67219> \q
[16:31] <Guest20820> Hi folks.
[16:31] <daftykins> hallo
[16:32] <BarackObama> Yes we can.
[16:32] <robdog> k
[16:32] <Ziber> Hey, I've just read about xmonad. I installed it and tried to login using it, but my desktop never loads, so I just had to hard-reboot. Any thoughts?
[16:32] <lecoeus> Ziber: are you sure it didn't load?
[16:32] <BarackObama_X> I can't boot from my pendrive.
[16:33] <Ziber> lecoeus: All I see is the "Ubuntu GNOME" text on the bottom and my mouse... nothing else.
[16:33] <lecoeus> i don't know about the gnome text but tiling wms like xmonad don't usually have anything on the desktop
[16:34] <lecoeus> you just see the wallpaper
[16:34] <BarackObama_X> Edit your Xorg.conf
[16:34] <Ziber> lecoeus: But I can't even see my apps?
[16:34] <lecoeus> if the keyboard shortcut to open the terminal doesn't work, then you have a problem
[16:34] <lecoeus> Ziber: that's normal
[16:34] <robdog> pici i am there now
[16:34] <lecoeus> there is no taskbar
[16:34] <BarackObama_X> sudo gedit /etc/xorg.conf
[16:35] <Ziber> Didn't try it. Found a xmonad config file to use though. Gonna test that out in a sec.
[16:35] <zykotick9> !gksudo | BarackObama_X
[16:35] <zykotick9> lecoeus: you can "typically" right click on the desktop to get a menu...
[16:35] <lecoeus> Ziber: press mod+shift+return
[16:35] <Ziber> I couldn't right click.
[16:35] <BarackObama_X> I always use sudo, I should try gksudo?
[16:35] <lecoeus> zykotick9: i don't remember how it works in xmonad
[16:35] <Ziber> Well, I mean, nothing happened when I did.
[16:36] <zykotick9> lecoeus: i don't use xmonad... but using WM have right click menus (i use awesome)
[16:36] <lecoeus> in my experience right click doesn't work usually in tiling wms
[16:36] <BarackObama_X> Xmonad doesn't have enough features.
[16:36] <lecoeus> i used xmonad a bit, now i use i3
[16:36] <lecoeus> i3 doesn't have right-click
[16:37] <BarackObama_X> Install Microsoft Windows.
[16:37] <wedr> lol
[16:38] <BarackObama_X> Pay Bill Gates.
[16:38] <pulsar78> Im installing Wifi on Quantal, but i cant get it to work properly
[16:38] <wedr> BarackObama_X: you nigga should be crazy
[16:38] <BarackObama_X> I'm the President.
[16:38] <pulsar78> anyone know how to swapout drivers, tried modprobe, but not getting anywhere
[16:39] <wedr> BarackObama_X: of what?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> BarackObama_X. enough
[16:40] <BarackObama_X> Fine.
[16:41] <dfht> ciao
[16:42] <jhutchins_wk> pulsar78: Sometimes you can rmmod then modprobe or insmod, sometimes you have to blacklist the old drivers and reboot.
[16:43] <Bad_Taste> Hi
[16:44] <impradeepy> nwy software similar to jupiter??
[16:45] <impradeepy> for 13.04
[16:45] <impradeepy> plz help
[16:45] <pulsar78> jhutchins_wk: tnx
[16:45] <jmgk> impradeepy:  state ur issue
[16:45] <jmgk> ;)
[16:46] <Ziber> So, that didn't work. But I got my background image.
[16:46] <impradeepy> over heating
[16:46] <impradeepy> fan control
[16:46] <impradeepy> cpu temp
[16:46] <wheatthin> acpi
[16:47] <impradeepy> ney software like jupiter?
[16:47] <impradeepy> for better power control options
[16:47] <Ziber> I followed this guide http://www.markhansen.co.nz/xmonad-ubuntu-oneiric/ to get xmonad + unity to work. My desktop background loaded, and I could right click, but nothing else happened.
[16:48] <impradeepy> ney help??
[16:48] <cpuguy83_> Is there not a better way to do this: dpkg -i riak_1.4.2-1_amd64.deb || apt-get -f install -y && dpkg -i riak_1.4.2-1_amd64.deb
[16:48] <Ziber> I guess it says it doesn't have unity. But I want to see a launcher of some kind...
[16:49] <cpuguy83_> I know redhat will let you install local rpms with yum so dependencies are automatically installed, haven't seen any better way to do this in Ubuntu
[16:49] <zykotick9> cpuguy83_: i'd think the 2nd "dpkg -i riak_1.4.2-1_amd64.deb" would be redundant
[16:50] <cpuguy83_> zykotick9: so the apt-get -f install would take care of going ahead and installing it?
[16:50] <jhutchins_wk> cpuguy83_: As far as I know it's still a two step process, so yeah, dpkg -i, apt-get -f.
[16:51] <zykotick9> cpuguy83_: will the first dpkg installs the package (but, i'm assuming is missing dependencies), the the apt-get -f install fixes the issue.  no now everything "should" be installed.
[16:51] <asm32dev> hi lads
[16:51]  * zykotick9 can't type today
[16:52] <asm32dev> i have quiet sound in my kubuntu 13.04. can you help me?
[16:53] <cpuguy83_> aah... I figured the install didn't happen because it's missing the dependencies.
[16:53] <wheatthin> asm32dev, did you try unmuting?
[16:53] <cpuguy83_> Sure would be nice if apt-get could be pointed at a local file
[16:53] <asm32dev> wheatthin, what is unmuting?)
[16:53] <wheatthin> cpuguy83_, why not use dpkg?
[16:54] <cpuguy83_> wheatthin: For a single step process
[16:54] <wheatthin> lol ummm why as long as you get it installed?
[16:54] <wheatthin> just dpkg -i <packagename.deb>
[16:54] <asm32dev> master channel is set to maximum volume, but sound is quiet
[16:55] <debasis> Whats the apt command?why its used?
[16:55] <zykotick9> cpuguy83_: there is a tool to make it single step... but i can't recall the name (i've never actually used it).... gdebi i believe?!
[16:55] <wheatthin> asm32dev, so go to the PCM and unmute
[16:56] <asm32dev> pcm is set to maximum too
[16:57] <cynicist> zykotick9: that's the graphical deb installer
[16:57] <asm32dev> sound card is a kind of realtek
[16:58] <cynicist> zykotick9: hmm although apparently it can be used in a terminal too
[17:01] <jmgk_> hi baracko /msg NickServ info mendota
[17:01] <cynicist> debasis: apt lets you get remote packages and does dependency resolution
[17:01] <jmgk_> oops
[17:04] <flk> hello
[17:04] <flk> kinda new at this
[17:04] <flk> i need some help with ubuntu 13.10 windows 8 dual boot
[17:05] <Ziber> Still troubleshooting xmonad, someone is suggesting adding it to "startup applications (on the Unity Panel)" What/where is that?
[17:06] <wheatthin> It says Startup Applications lol
[17:06] <wheatthin> and it does what it's name says it does.
[17:06] <Ziber> ... Where?
[17:07] <wheatthin> Settings manager?
[17:07] <Ziber> I don't see it on the System Settings.
[17:08] <lecoeus> Ziber: i think making xmonad a unity startup application would run it inside unity
[17:08] <Ziber> Oh, did a search for it on the full system search thing.
[17:08] <lecoeus> as a substitute for compiz
[17:09] <Ziber> lecoeus: Well, I want to do a unity + xmonad setup.
[17:09] <Ziber> I don't use compiz.
[17:09] <Ziber> Sot hat'd be fine.
[17:09] <Ziber> *So that'd
[17:09] <wheatthin> compiz is installed by default isn't it?
[17:09] <lecoeus> Ziber: ok then
[17:09] <Ziber> Yeah. Replacing it would be fine though.
[17:10] <lecoeus> xmonad --replace would work for one-time
[17:10] <wheatthin> might add that as an alias
[17:10] <zykotick9> lecoeus: if you replace compiz, i'm not sure any of unity will be able to run...
[17:10] <bl4ckdu5t> How do I format from cli?
[17:10] <flk> anyone have experience with uefi windows 8 ubuntu 13.10 dual boot?
[17:11] <bl4ckdu5t> format external drives
[17:11] <wheatthin> bl4ckdu5t, very carefully..  us parted
[17:11] <wheatthin> use*
[17:12] <bl4ckdu5t> wheatthin: you mean 'su parted'?
[17:13] <lecoeus> zykotick9: you are probably right
[17:13] <lecoeus> zykotick9: i've never actually used unity but i think it was designed as a compiz plugin
[17:13] <wheatthin> parted is the app... use sudo .
[17:13] <bl4ckdu5t> ok thanks
[17:13] <zykotick9> lecoeus: it is (currently) a compiz plugin, yes.
[17:14] <jubale> CPU monitor screenlet comes up several times at boot. Any help for getting excess instances to stop launching?
[17:14] <Ziber> Tried "xmonad --replace" and lost all window controls... :(
[17:14] <Ziber> !xmonad
[17:14] <Ziber> :/
[17:16] <Ziber> Also, I have an unworldy number of sessions in my list, on the login screen. How can I remove some of those?
[17:17] <minimec> Ziber: Have a look in /usr/share/xsessions
[17:17] <lecoeus> Ziber: yeah, we were saying unity + xmonad is probably impossible
[17:18] <minimec> Ziber: Probably enough to put a '.' in ront of the session you want to hide
[17:18] <Ziber> Yeah.
[17:18] <Ziber> Hm.
[17:18] <Ziber> :(
[17:18] <Ziber> Impossible you say?
[17:19] <lecoeus> unity is implemented as a compiz plugin
[17:19] <wheatthin> Ziber, unprobable without multiple complications.
[17:19] <Ziber> :(
[17:20] <Ziber> Well, I'm gonna try this Gnome + Xmonad. Brb.
[17:22] <Ziber> Gnome + xmonad doesn't even have window controls.
[17:22] <Ziber> Le sigh.
[17:22] <Ziber> Can I logout from terminal?
[17:23] <wheatthin> lol I wouldn't see why not.
[17:23] <Ziber> Yeah, how?
[17:23] <wheatthin> exit.
[17:23] <Ziber> That and "logout" close the terminal tab.
[17:23] <Ziber> Not my whole session.
[17:23] <wheatthin> Ummm  exit
[17:24] <Ziber> ?
[17:24] <Lockzi> Guys, I am having problems with permission on a mounted CIFS share for my local system users. I am mounting it with gid=1003 (which is a group all users are a member of), and am also using it with file_mode=0777 and same for dir_mode. The users can create folders on some directories but not all - what could be the cause?
[17:24] <wheatthin> TYPE EXIT in lowercaps~!@
[17:24] <Ziber> Right. Did that. Closed terminal tab.
[17:24] <Ziber> :)
[17:24] <wheatthin> smh lol
[17:24] <lecoeus> Ziber: mod+shift+q
[17:25] <lecoeus> if xmonad is active
[17:25] <Ziber> apparently not.
[17:25] <pogiako> how do i make gedit transparent?
[17:25] <Ziber> restarting again. brb.
[17:25] <wheatthin> pogiako, you don't.
[17:26] <pogiako> haha y?
[17:26] <pogiako> but i want it to :(
[17:26] <wheatthin> not unless it's in the appearance section.
[17:27] <wheatthin> in System Settings
[17:27] <pogiako> its not there lol
[17:27] <pogiako> oh btw
[17:27] <pogiako> how do i make toolbar built-in windows?
[17:28] <wheatthin> isn't this what google is for? lol
[17:28] <pogiako> haha
[17:28] <pogiako> ok ok
[17:28] <rayv> pogiako: i think qt 4 designer may be solution for you
[17:31] <Ziber> Certainly frustrating :(
[17:31] <flk> anyone here yet who could help with uefi dual boot with windows?
[17:32] <pogiako> flk: what happened?
[17:32] <daftykins> flk: describe your situation
[17:32] <flk> i installed ubuntu on a windows 8 computer
[17:32] <wheatthin> !uefi | flk
[17:32] <flk> then a serious of events caused my current situation
[17:33] <devnulled> hey all, I'm trying to use one of the Ubuntu cloud images in Vagrant and it seems like the template uses a disk size that is way too small to be useful.  Does anyone know where would I go to report this/talk to someone about the template?
[17:33] <flk> ive read all that already
[17:33] <flk> my problem is as soon as i boot-repair grub is my default boot loader
[17:33] <flk> then if i select windows
[17:33] <flk> and restart
[17:34] <flk> windows boot loader overwrites grub
[17:34] <flk> and i cant get into ubuntu
[17:34] <flk> if i boot from liveCD and do boot-repair again
[17:34] <flk> i can boot into ubuntu
[17:34] <flk> but again
[17:34] <hitsujiTMO> devnulled: try #vagrant
[17:35] <wheatthin> flk, please don't use return as punctuation
[17:35] <Ziber> Rather than xmonad, are there other solutions to have my laptop and external monitor to each have their own, individually-controlled workspaces?
[17:35] <flk> as soon as i pick windows boot loader, the system boots into windows without giving me any other options
[17:35] <flk> sry, im too excited. i will control myself
[17:35] <devnulled> hitsujiTMO:  I'll give that a shot.  It is a Ubuntu created template so I think I'd need to talk to someone from Ubuntu about it, but doesn't hurt to try there.  Thanks.
[17:36] <wheatthin> flk, sounds like you have the wrong disk booting. Is this a dualboot on the same hard drive?
[17:36] <flk> yes
[17:36] <hitsujiTMO> devnulled: where did you get the template exactly and how big is the disk size?
[17:37] <wheatthin> flk, by checking fdisk   'sudo fdisk -l' you can see which partition is marked to boot.
[17:37] <devnulled> hitsujiTMO: I got the image/template from http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ (I can give the full URL to the image if helpful) and the disk size is only 4 GB.
[17:38] <flk> this is odd. fdisk -l shows only sda1
[17:38] <nightdemon666> flk, are you dual booting windows and ubuntu?
[17:38] <flk> yes nightdemon
[17:38] <wheatthin> nightdemon666, windows 8
[17:39] <nightdemon666> and you "should" have ubuntu installed onto partition sda2 but fdisk only show you sda1 (which is windows)?
[17:39] <devnulled> hitsujiTMO: I'm not sure if its a typo or what.  Disk images for Vagrant tend to be 40 GB.  I believe the images only allocate space as needed, so it shouldn't be a problem to increase it to something usable.
[17:39] <flk> this is what fdisk got me: i need some help with ubuntu 13.10 windows 8 dual boot
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> devnulled: i presume the intention is that you can expand the partition to you needs
[17:39] <flk> ups, let me try this again
[17:40] <xyzwhatever> hi i connected my old windows harddisk and it says access denied why i dont have root access to it?
[17:40] <flk> fdisk -l ...  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1               1  3907029167  1953514583+  ee  GPT Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary.
[17:40] <wheatthin> flk please use pastebin for your output
[17:40] <nightdemon666> flk, did you partition your internal drive (/dev/sda) so that you would have /dev/sda2
[17:40] <wheatthin> flk, you'll need to use parted, since it's GPT
[17:40] <devnulled> hitsujiTMO: You have to basically create your own image again, or add your own new partition to do it:    http://askubuntu.com/questions/317338/how-can-i-increase-disk-size-on-a-vagrant-vm
[17:40] <flk> ahh, how do i do it with parted?
[17:41] <nightdemon666> hmm, i sem to remember partitioning a GPT with Gparted... FYI
[17:42] <nightdemon666> but you can see the partitions with parted yes... sudo parted -l i think
[17:42] <flk> can i get a report like with fdisk from gparted?
[17:42] <hitsujiTMO> devnulled: i see. it seems quite difficult to find who's responible for that build alright. not seeing anything on any of the community pages
[17:42] <flk> Number  Start   End     Size    File system     Name  Flags  1      1049kB  525MB   524MB   fat32                 boot  2      525MB   567MB   41,9MB  fat32                 msftdata  3      701MB   1226MB  524MB   ntfs                  msftdata  4      1226MB  1883GB  1881GB  ntfs                  msftdata  5      1883GB  1979GB  96,7GB  ext4                  msftdata  6      1979GB  1988GB  8193MB  linux-swap(v1)  7      1988GB  2000GB  1
[17:42] <wheatthin> flk, use pastebin please so you don't get kicked
[17:43] <flk> need some help with that wheatthin
[17:43] <wheatthin> !paste > flk
[17:43] <devnulled> hitsujiTMO: Exactly, it seems easy to contact sales, but impossible to find who builds the images there, etc.  :)  I could see how the 4 GB could be intentional, but at the same time I don't think it allocates the disk space upfront, so something more reasonable seems appropriate.
[17:44] <nightdemon666> just useflk, based on what you information you have given me, it sounds liek grub is NOT installed to /dev/sda1, hence why you are not seeing the GRUB to give additional boot options.
[17:44] <flk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6422329/
[17:44] <Ziber> Anyone with multiple monitors figure out how to get each monitor to have independent workspaces?
[17:45] <soman> Is there a free and cool video editor like sony vegas for ubuntu?
[17:45] <wheatthin> Ziber, I think you can, but it's tricky cause you gotta play with tty's
[17:45] <Myrtti> soman: dunno about being "like sony vegas" but openshot is nice
[17:45] <Ziber> Hrm...
[17:45] <nightdemon666> GRUB MUST be installed to /dev/sda1 to provide the necessary boot options to boot into ubutnu
[17:46] <flk> on a side not, paste.ubuntu is great!
[17:46] <flk> dev/sda1 is efi/boot
[17:46] <nightdemon666> and you also have to perform a sudo update-grub command too i think...
[17:47] <thumpba> how old is Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu3
[17:47] <Test5132> I am using wubi, but... my laptop fan is a lot louder compared to win7, even though i just have a few tabs open on browser
[17:47] <wheatthin> ancient
[17:47] <Test5132> any quick fix for that?
[17:47] <Pici> thumpba: Which package are you asking about?
[17:48] <thumpba> Pici: i have a legacy system and trying to put a date with this ubuntu release...Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu3
[17:48] <axisys> atl+ctrl+right arrow does not change window
[17:48] <Pici> thumpba: There is no such release with that number, that is a format used for package versions.
[17:48] <thumpba> Pici: when i do a uname -a i get "2.6.24-24-xen"
[17:48] <wheatthin> lol well we are at 13.10 now :)
[17:49] <Pici> thumpba: What does lsb_release -a  say?
[17:49] <thumpba> command not found
[17:49] <axisys> if I am on a gnome terminal it prints C for right arrow and D for left arrow.. anyway to restore keyboard shortcuts?
[17:49] <Pici> thumpba: cat /etc/issue ?
[17:49] <wheatthin> hmm.
[17:49] <flk> i did sudo update-grub
[17:49] <nightdemon666> flk, how big is this harddrive? internal to laptop or desktop?
[17:49] <flk> its a desktop 2TB drive
[17:50] <nightdemon666> ok...
[17:50] <devnulled> hitsujiTMO: Anyhow, thanks for the help.. I think I might just have to do it manually and create my own image unfortunately.
[17:50] <nightdemon666> did you make sure that when grub installed that it installed to /dev/sda1?
[17:50] <flk> grub is installed to the ubuntu partition sda5
[17:50] <zykotick9> axisys: do you mean in vi?  install vim!
[17:50] <nightdemon666> thats the problem flk
[17:51] <axisys> I wanted to enable 3d widows with ccsm and that's when I lost the alt+ctlr+arrow functionality.. removed ccsm and compiz-plugin-extras since then.. unity --reset looks deprecated
[17:51] <flk> i cant use an uefi partition
[17:51] <axisys> zykotick9: switch workspace with alt+ctrl+arrow is failing
[17:51] <wheatthin> flk why not?
[17:51] <nightdemon666> GRUB's purpose is to allow boot options... windows boot loader will boot you straight to windows unless replaced by RUB
[17:52] <zykotick9> axisys: ahhh.  different issue!  i've got no clue on yours ;)
[17:52] <axisys> when I hit alt+ctrl+arrow and I am on a gnome-terminal .. instead of changing workspace it is showing C or D depending the direction of the arrow.. odd
[17:52] <flk> ok, so i would have to overwrite the entire windows boot loader
[17:52] <nightdemon666> yes
[17:52] <flk> can i somehow leave the windows boot loader and add ubuntu to it?
[17:52] <nightdemon666> but it wont hurt windows, it just replaces the boot loader with grub
[17:52] <axisys> keyboard shortcut shows the right setting.. but no worky
[17:52] <wheatthin> flk, it's more difficult like that.
[17:53] <flk> id like to keep the windows efi loader since its a premade dell
[17:53] <axisys> even the workspace switch does not work when pick a running application on different workspace
[17:53] <wheatthin> flk, and since GRUB is maintained by ubuntu, that's what we support :)
[17:53] <nightdemon666> flk, GRUB will take over and boot windows normally as it should, but in order to boot to other OS recognized by GRUB, you must replace the windows one first.
[17:53] <flk> ok
[17:53] <axisys> something needs reset/restore .. lets hope I dont need to re-install ubuntu
[17:53] <poorlinuxnoob> help, I connected my windows 7 harddisk, and now I cannot access any files, under permission everything is set to "only owner" can I change this under ubuntu?
[17:54] <flk> so the question now would be how to install grub to sda1?
[17:54] <wheatthin> poorlinuxnoob, you have to mount it with user permissions in fstab and chown the files
[17:54] <martin1989> hi people!
[17:54] <martin1989> i have a question
[17:54] <poorlinuxnoob> wheatthin: you mean just mount it with sudo?
[17:54] <martin1989> i cannot hear any radio in amarok 2.x
[17:54] <nightdemon666> flk, in the future, if you need to remove ubuntu, and want to windows boot loader back, then you must use windows recovery disk to recover windows boot loader.
[17:55] <wheatthin> poorlinuxnoob, if you want it to automatically mount, then you need to add it to /etc/fstab
[17:55] <DrManhattan> I am currently using the generic kernel on a VM. I want to switch over to the linux-virtual kernel, however when I install the linux-virtual package the bootloader wont show the virtual kernel as an option or boot it. Any help?
[17:55] <wheatthin> with proper user permissions
[17:55] <poorlinuxnoob> no i just need it once for backup
[17:55] <wheatthin> ok, so then sudo -s and then do your backup as room.
[17:55] <wheatthin> root*
[17:55] <martin1989> does someone know something about listening radio in amarok??
[17:55] <eyfour> DrManhattan: have you installed the "$-headers" package(s) as well?
[17:56] <DrManhattan> eyfour, I have. It is part of the normal install
[17:57] <DrManhattan> when I do a manual update-grub it gives me a menu option, but I need the boot menu to boot the virtual kernel by default
[17:57] <eyfour> DrManhattan: Ah, sorry
[17:57] <eyfour> DrManhattan: From what I remember, you can set this by editing GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub
[17:57] <Ziber> !workspaces
[17:57] <Ziber> !monitors
[17:57] <Ziber> Sigh.
[17:58] <wheatthin> DrManhattan, http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order
[17:59] <DrManhattan> wheatthin, I appreciate the help, but a gui app is not what I am looking for.
[17:59] <wheatthin> DrManhattan, obviously you didn't read the page.
[17:59] <Ziber> I'm really surprised there's no easy way to split workspaces for multiple monitors.
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> is there a way at all?
[18:00] <Ziber> Not that I know of.
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> idd
[18:00] <flk> i was afk for a moment, can someone help me on installing grub to the /boot/efi partition (sda1)?
[18:00] <eyfour> DrManhattan: On second thought, if you want to have outdated -virtual packages installed in addition to newer generic-packages, it's possible that grub might not let you simply select one the of the "previous" kernel versions with a number. Hmm..
[18:00] <Ziber> MonkeyDust: ?
[18:01] <Safety_Dance> !fixgrub|DrManhattan
[18:01] <DrManhattan> THanks
[18:01] <BluesKaj> flk. on live media , cd/dvd/or usb , open a terminal and do , sudo grub-install /dev/sda ,(not sda1)
[18:02] <zykotick9> DrManhattan: you can change the default kernel in /etc/default/grub
[18:02] <wheatthin> Safety_Dance, he's not fixing grub, he's changing the boot order.
[18:02] <flk> blueskaj, but i want it on sda1, thats my efi boot partition
[18:02] <BluesKaj> flk. live media meaning you live ubuntu installation media
[18:03] <wheatthin> flk, like livedvd or usb
[18:03] <Safety_Dance> wheatthin, sorry?
[18:03] <flk> yes wheatthin, i understand i have to boot with liveCD
[18:03] <Ziber> :(
[18:03] <Safety_Dance> oh right...
[18:04] <Safety_Dance> DrManhattan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring_GRUB_2
[18:04] <eyfour> DrManhattan: Apparently, it can be done after all. See "Setting a Submenu entry as the default" on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus
[18:05] <Safety_Dance> wheatthin, like thet?
[18:05] <BluesKaj> flk. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#Install_GRUB2_in_.28U.29EFI_systems
[18:06] <Safety_Dance> wheatthin, not sure why u highlight me :/
[18:07] <poorlinuxnoob> how do I change chmod for a whole folder and all its subdirectories and files??
[18:07] <Safety_Dance> find the files first
[18:07] <wheatthin> Safety_Dance, because sir, you were getting two different issues confused. One guy needs to repair/install grub... the next guy wants to change it's boot order.
[18:07] <flk> let me try some of these, thank you!
[18:08] <Safety_Dance> that is detailed in the docs wheatthin (sir)
[18:09] <wheatthin> lol wow I give up. I was polite, and someone has to be rude.. go figure.
[18:10] <wheatthin> Safety_Dance, but what you're not getting is you were specifying the wrong document to the wrong person with another GRUB issue.
[18:11] <jubale> Is lspci command equivelant to a registry view command for Windows?
[18:11] <duxb> After upgrading to 13.10, when I log in to my phpmyadmin from the machine it's hosted on, everything is fine, but when I log in from a remote location, I see error indicators next to all my databases, but it gives no information as to what errors anywhere I look, any help?
[18:12] <daftykins> duxb: if nothing bad is happening, why worry? clear that systems' browser cache
[18:13] <Safety_Dance> wheatthin, everything is detailed in the documentation page
[18:13] <daftykins> duxb: also i'm afraid phpmyadmin != ubuntu support
[18:13] <Safety_Dance> that i linked
[18:13] <Eagleman> I accidently deleted a file i moodified a few minutes aigo, is there a way to get it back?
[18:13] <Safety_Dance> go ahead and read it
[18:13] <duxb> daftykins: I tried #phpmyadmin, nobody's home
[18:14] <daftykins> duxb: good things come to those who wait ^_^
[18:14] <nightdemon666> i havent tried before but, wouldnt super grub disk be appropriate for flk's issue, or is super grub disk outdated for uefi/windows 8 boot process wheatthin?
[18:14] <buu> Eagleman: Probably not, no.
[18:14] <wheatthin> nightdemon666, I've never used super grub, so I cannot say.
[18:15] <Safety_Dance> wheatthin, what issue in particualr do you speak of that is not covered in the documentation that i linked sir
[18:15] <DrManhattan> strange and kinda crappy that the linux-virtual package is behind the linux-generic. Is there any way to remove linux-generic from the system? I tried apt-get remove linux-generic and linux-image-generic =- neither worked
[18:15] <wheatthin> DrManhattan, cause neither are installed.
[18:16] <daftykins> DrManhattan: do you want to remove a specific kernel, or prevent it installing a generic?
[18:16] <DrManhattan> wheatthin, nonsense
[18:16] <DrManhattan> daftykins, I want to remove the generic and stop it from installing in the future
[18:16] <wheatthin> DrManhattan, it's a virtual package linking to a different set of packages.
[18:17] <Richhh> trying to install ubuntu on an 6yo pc, seems theres a problem with the mobo's ide interface (read errors with various burns, optical drives, ide cables), bios supports booting from usb devices but says 'invalid system disc' on various makes of bootable ubuntu usbs, i have one more idea, could i put an ubuntu iso on a 2nd hdd and install across to the other hdd from it?
[18:17] <DrManhattan> wheatthin, ok, so how do I go about removing it? I want to use linux-virtual, and linux-virtual only
[18:17] <Richhh> (have also just tried updating the bios, succeeded but no change on 'invalid system disc' message)
[18:18] <daftykins> Richhh: 6 years old, hope you're not trying to use 13.10 standard
[18:18] <Richhh> uhh yeah i was
[18:18] <nightdemon666> Richhh, it should be possible if you install via UNETBOOTIN
[18:18] <daftykins> Richhh: but yep if you made it bootable that may well work. how are you making your USB drives?
[18:18] <wheatthin> daftykins, my computer is 7 and runs it just fine :)
[18:18] <Eagleman> buu, there should be ways, right?
[18:18] <Richhh> well lubuntu 13.10
[18:18] <daftykins> wheatthin: well i'm pleased for you, but this of course does not make it a rule
[18:19] <daftykins> Richhh: oh good, not standard then.
[18:19] <lmat> How do I make vnc server only serve one monitor ?
[18:19] <lmat> (or an area? or something...)
[18:19] <daftykins> lmat: i bet they have documentation for that ;)
[18:19] <lmat> daftykins: I've been looking. I'll keep looking if you think it's out there :)
[18:19] <daftykins> i have no idea
[18:20] <wheatthin> lmat, by selecting the :1   tty port when starting the daemon
[18:20] <lmat> wheatthin: Thanks. You're talking about vino ?
[18:20] <wheatthin> I'm talking about vncserver in general.
[18:20] <Richhh> daftykins nightdemon666 have tried usbcreater and unetbootin
[18:20] <lmat> wheatthin: okay.
[18:20] <Richhh> creator*
[18:20] <daftykins> Richhh: what's the host OS you're creating these with?
[18:22] <nightdemon666> Richhh, you are setting the BIOS to boot from specific IDE drive right?
[18:22] <Richhh> daftykins its 3GHz Celeron with 1GB RAM, GeForce 7600 GT
[18:22] <daftykins> eww
[18:22] <Richhh> daftykins windows 8
[18:22] <daftykins> severely memory challenged :)
[18:23] <Richhh> its my grandads old pc, with an old but loved gfx card etc added to it
[18:23] <wheatthin> actually windows 8 runs great on tablets with small memory.
[18:23] <daftykins> "tablets"
[18:23] <Safety_Dance> !offtopic|wheatthin
[18:23] <daftykins> wheatthin: i'm sorry but these statements of yours are utterly useless
[18:23] <wheatthin> so if they can run on something that minute, then. I'm sorry you feel that way
[18:24] <Richhh> nightdemon666 im setting the boot order to usb-hdd first, if thats what u mean
[18:24] <Richhh> i havent tried to install from a second hdd yet, but i guess thats possible
[18:24] <Richhh> right?
[18:25] <Richhh> seem so
[18:25] <Richhh> seems
[18:25] <daftykins> Richhh: tends to be better to use a boot menu than rely on boot prioerities, if there is one
[18:26] <nightdemon666> i suggest loading the .iso to the 2nd internal ide drive (thats what you meant by 2nd hdd right?) via Unetbootin, then when booting from it on desktop, make sure that ide drive is set to boot first. Unetbootin bootloader "should" appear and allow you do boot into live environment...
[18:26] <wheatthin> lol I give up.. people have no logic in here it seems.
[18:26] <daftykins> though prepare for wonderful GRUB issues :D
[18:26] <daftykins> wheatthin: what logic is this? :)
[18:27] <wheatthin> oh don't worry about it. It's offtopic remember?
[18:27] <Richhh> ok daftykins and nightdemon666
[18:27] <daftykins> logic isn't off topic :(
[18:28] <Ziber> anyone know of anything like this for Intel integrated? http://blog.linuxacademy.com/linux/ubuntu-and-multiple-monitors-amd-edition/
[18:28] <nightdemon666> Richhh, just make sure that GRUB is installed to the drive you plan to boot ubuntu from... are you intending to dual boot windows and ubuntu on that drive?
[18:29] <Richhh> nightdemon666 no
[18:29] <daftykins> Ziber: do you mean drivers?
[18:30] <Richhh> first just install ubuntu on its own drive
[18:30] <Richhh> maybe install windows on the 2nd drive later
[18:30] <Ziber> The GUI shown there seems to do exactly what I want... but for AMD, rather than intel integrated.
[18:30] <superjoe30> when I run a program I get: error while loading shared libraries: libfoo.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:30] <superjoe30> it works fine if I do LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib ./myprogram
[18:31] <superjoe30> this is a brand new saucy installation; I thought /usr/local/lib was in the library path?
[18:31] <eyfour> DrManhattan: Have you tried removing linux-headers-generic as well as the linux-image-generic package? This worked for me. Make sure you're able to boot from your virtual image before doing this, though.
[18:31] <DrManhattan> ive tried, no luck
[18:31] <Ziber> daftykins: The GUI there is capable of individual workspaces per monitor as I'm trying to achieve.
[18:31] <nightdemon666> Richhh, just make sure GRUB gets installed to the drive ubuntu will be booting off of... example; you want to install to 1st hdd (/dev/sda) and you are booting from 2nd hdd to do that (/dev/sdb) make sure GRUB gets installed on /dev/sda. Just verify that before saying "ok" to installing the OS :)
[18:32] <DrManhattan> eyfour, it says neither is installed, although they both are
[18:33] <zeus__> Gents, I have a problem with the Terminus font, when I use it, it doesn't look like it's a bitmap font
[18:34] <eyfour> DrManhattan: Really? Sorry, but in that case I'm out of ideas. As mentioned earlier, though, it appears you can get Grub to boot to a virtual image.
[18:35] <eyfour> DrManhattan: ...as default
[18:36] <eyfour> DrManhattan: it says neither is installed? Did you install them through apt?
[18:36] <zigurat> How I overcome the SIS videocard issue? It's driving me mad.
[18:39] <queretaro> Is there any aptitude flag or something that can help checking if there are security updates?
[18:39] <starnix> Guys, when i try to get torrent file, firefox asks for me to choose an application? what should I do? ubuntu 13.04?
[18:39] <queretaro> starnix just select a torrent application that you have installed, one such as Transmission
[18:40] <zykotick9> starnix: or, just save the file.  then open it after with you torrent client.
[18:40] <eyfour> DrManhattan: how about ditching the linux-virtual package, and then installing linux-image-virtual and linux-headers-virtual? Does update-grub list them now? I struggled with a very similar issue myself, and there was something about switching between the aforementioned installation methods that solved it in my case.
[18:41] <starnix> zykotick9, i cannot download the file it self, it asks me to choose the application...
[18:42] <starnix> queretaro, transmission is installed, it doesn't list in that...
[18:43] <queretaro> starnix: through that file explorer window that opens up, navigate to /usr/bin and select it from there
[18:45] <starnix> queretaro, thanks.
[18:46] <zigurat> How do I overcome the sis videocard issue?
[18:47] <lmat> wheatthin: your suggestion (select :1 tty port when starting the daemon) seems very good and sounds promising, but I can't find this documented anywhere in vino-server (or thereabouts).
[18:48] <lmat> wheatthin: ps -ef | grep vino  shows that it is started like this :  vino-server --sm-disable
[18:48] <lmat> wheatthin: whoa
[18:49] <lmat> wheatthin: I obviously read the  vino-server --help too fast, now I'm seeing lots more options (under saya  --help-gtk, etc.)
[18:49] <lmat> wheatthin: I'll let you know if this doesn't lead anywhere :)
[18:50] <queretaro> starnix: no probs
[18:50] <queretaro> Is there any aptitude flag or something that can help checking if there are security updates?
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> queretaro  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade will get the latest available in the repos, you can do this whenever you want
[18:52] <queretaro> MonkeyDust: I know, but I just want the security updates, no more no less
[18:54] <spence> s
[18:59] <Harmageddon> Hi! When I'm booting Ubuntu 13.10, a window appears saying "The system is running in low-graphics mode". I've already tried the options inside this window, I've installed the recent nvidia drivers via apt-get, tried different grub options, now I don't know what else I could try.
[18:59] <yeyeman> every time I turn off my computer it starts beeping and squeaking for 5 minutes
[18:59] <yeyeman> I think it's faxing my user data to NSA
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> yeyeman  they already had them
[19:00] <BluesKaj> har which nvidia card and which ubuntu version ?
[19:00] <BluesKaj> Harmageddon.^
[19:01] <yeyeman> canonical NSA puppets
[19:01] <Harmageddon> BluesKaj: Ubuntu 13.10, nVidia GeForce GT 750m
[19:02] <Guest34365> Hello
[19:02] <Guest34365> Why does my machine have a bunch of kde updates?
[19:03] <templer> I found that I cannot print in certain applications on xubuntu as they are set to us letter as default and not a4 but was able to change it for evolution
[19:03] <tozen> Guest34365: because you using smth from kde software
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> Guest34365  check the sources, also: maybve you're using kde programs
[19:03] <templer> is there a way to set all a4 default
[19:03] <yeyeman> how do I make ubuntu update?
[19:03] <ioria> hi,  my ethernet card (sis900) doesn't support pxe and i want to boot from a ltsp server ... i have found the file (sis900.lil) but i don't know how modify grub ! thanx
[19:03] <templer> as some are difficult to change or impossible
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> yeyeman  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade is one way
[19:04] <yeyeman> MonkeyDust, is that the same as what software center gives me?
[19:05] <templer> anyone
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> yeyeman  yes, the software center is another apt frontend, they are the same repos
[19:05] <tozen> yeyeman: not software-center but update-manager
[19:05] <phong_> hi guys!
[19:06] <yeyeman> good
[19:06] <BluesKaj> Harmageddon. is that a laptop with dual gpus (Optimus)
[19:09] <tozen> phong_: hi! what's the matter, pal?
[19:09] <Harmageddon> BluesKaj: It's a MSI laptop, not sure if one or 2 gpus, but I think it's only one. 2gb gddr5
[19:10] <Harmageddon> BluesKaj: It seems to support nvidia Optimus, according to nvidia's website
[19:11] <zypper> Is there a way to set the Window Manager used by Unity?
[19:12] <zykotick9> Harmageddon: does "lspci -v | grep -i vga" list 1 card, or 2?
[19:12] <auronandace> zypper: unity is designed to work with compiz
[19:12] <zypper> auronandace: So is that simply a no?
[19:13] <BluesKaj> Harmageddon. open a terminal , laspci , look for VGA compatible controller, .if there's more than one then you have dual gpus
[19:13] <auronandace> zypper: i don't think it was intended to switch wm
[19:13] <BluesKaj> err lspci , Harmageddon
[19:13] <auronandace> zypper: you could try another wm but i wouldn't hold my breath
[19:14] <auronandace> zypper: the older unity2d used metacity
[19:14] <BluesKaj> Harmageddon. or what zykotick9 , suggested
[19:14] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: fyi, you need -v with lscpi to show both with optimus/hybrid
[19:14] <Harmageddon> zykotick9, BluesKaj: searching for vga, I get Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
[19:14] <Harmageddon> Searching for nvidia, theres only one entry, too
[19:15] <BluesKaj> Harmageddon. run zykotick9  suggestion , lspci -v | grep -i vga
[19:18] <Harmageddon> BluesKaj: http://imgur.com/wgXsq4m
[19:20] <cynicist> Harmageddon: yeah you have two gpus
[19:20] <jhutchins_wk> cynicist: Yep, laptop power saving solution, switch from low-power to high-power GPU when needed.  Only sorta works in Linux.
[19:21] <cynicist> jhutchins_wk: yeah that stuff is so immature in linux atm that it's usually better to just disable one, I'd probably stop using the nvidia gpu just to save power
[19:23] <[twisti]> im trying to change the group of files the dropbox demon creates. i have attempted to do that by changing the start line in /etc/init.d/dropbox to HOME="$HOMEDIR" start-stop-daemon -b -o -c $dbuser:www-data -S -u $dbuser -x $HOMEDIR/$DAEMON - with the added hard coded www-data for the time being. but files are still created as dbuser:dbuser. the dbuser is in the www-data group. ideas ?
[19:24] <Harmageddon> cynicist: I'd prefer to stop the intel one. Where can I do this?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> Harmageddon. http://bumblebee-project.org/install.html
[19:24] <cynicist> Harmageddon: you should be able to disable the integrated gpu in your bios
[19:24] <Harmageddon> cynicist: ah, ok
[19:29] <lmat> wheatthin: /usr/lib/vino/vino-server --sm-client-disable --display=":1"    Cannot open display :1  (similar error for 0:1) Any recommendations ?
[19:29] <Harmageddon> BluesKaj: I'm trying this, give me a few minutes
[19:29] <ioria> hi,  my ethernet card (sis900) doesn't support pxe and i want to boot from a ltsp server ... i have found the file (sis900.lil) but i don't know how modify grub ! thanx
[19:30] <jhutchins_wk> lmat: You must either do this as the user who owns that display or use the xauth magic cookie to give you access to it.
[19:30] <lmat> jhutchins_wk: running sudo !!
[19:30] <lmat> jhutchins_wk: Same thing.  Okay, looking for magic cookie...
[19:30] <Yans> y0
[19:32] <[twisti]> is there seriously no way to force dropbox to run in a different group ?
[19:32] <lmat> jhutchins_wk: Does it matter that I'm running all this locally ?
[19:32] <lmat> [twisti]: Could you add the dropbox group to the group you want ?
[19:33] <[twisti]> add a group to a group ? i dont understand
[19:33] <lmat> jhutchins_wk: It is important to note what I'm trying to do. Personally, I believe the error "cannot open display :1" because it probably doesn't exist. I only have one X server, and it's local. It was suggested that I could use :1 to just share one particular monitor.
[19:34] <[twisti]> the annoying thing is that there is a script in /etc/init.d that is clearly meant to start dropbox with an optional user/group parameter, but i guess nautilus ignores it ? im unsure whats going on exactly behind the scenes
[19:34] <lmat> jhutchins_wk: All in all, I would like vnc server to just serve one monitor (or a region of the screen or whatever).
[19:35] <lmat> [twisti]: Never used the dropbox client. My mistake, no adding groups to groups.
[19:35] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:35] <[twisti]> man theres a lot of bot spam in this channel
[19:36] <lmat> [twisti]: They do seem pretty active today :)
[19:36] <FATnerd> any nerds wants to help getting my Anker gaming mouse to work?
[19:36] <lmat> FATnerd: Does it need to be a fat nerd, or are ... diminutive nerds welcome, too ?
[19:37] <FATnerd> doesnt matter any nerds will do
[19:37] <topper4125> Don't use big words when unique diminutives will suffice.
[19:37] <topper4125> :)
[19:38] <CandyCanes> did justin bieber ride selena gomez's disco stick?
[19:38] <[twisti]> im going to write a blood cron script to run a chown -R every minute
[19:38] <[twisti]> horrible
[19:38] <sam113101> [twisti]: O_O
[19:38] <shade_> a
[19:38] <[twisti]> i dont even know why that nautilus crap exists, as far as i can tell, its 'an awesome script to start dropbox just like dropbox normally works but without any options'
[19:41] <Harmageddon> BluesKaj: bumblebee installation doesn't change anything. If I set "nomodeset" in /etc/default/grub, the window appears. Otherwise, the boot screen appears and then turns to black.
[19:41] <jhutchins_wk> [twisti]: sticky bit.
[19:42] <Harmageddon> cynicist: I cam't find any option to disable the onboard gpu in bios. This is odd...
[19:42] <BluesKaj> Harmageddon. yeah unfortunately bumblebee is hit and miss
[19:43] <CandyCanes> did justin bieber ride selena gomez's disco stick?
[19:43] <cynicist> Harmageddon: yeah that's unfortunate but it happens, for some reason laptop bios generally have less features than a desktop bios
[19:43] <BluesKaj> !ot | CandyCanes.
[19:43] <Gnea> !ot | CandyCanes
[19:43] <CandyCanes> !ot CandyCanes
[19:44] <CandyCanes> !ot | CandyCanes
[19:44] <Harmageddon> cynicist: I see. I'm used to have many options more than here...
[19:44] <Gnea> CandyCanes: why are you here?
[19:44] <BluesKaj> does anyone care
[19:44] <CandyCanes> I am writing to you, fathers, because you know Him who has been from the beginning. I am writing to you, young men, because you have overcome the.
[19:44] <cynicist> Harmageddon: what laptop is it btw?
[19:44] <Gnea> CandyCanes: you should say these things in #freenode
[19:44] <lmat> Gnea: haha
[19:44] <Lockzi> Hello, i have services running on my system under different users. With a mounted CIFS share, is it possible to have different users on my local system to use the same share under different server credentials?
[19:45] <Harmageddon> cynicist: MSI GE60 I750 M281 FD
[19:45] <lmat> Lockzi: yes.
[19:45] <Lockzi> In essence, can local user1 connect to the same share with the CIFS user1//pass1 and local user2 connect to the same share with the CIFS user2/pass2?
[19:45] <Gnea> lmat: :-)
[19:45] <Lockzi> lmat: where can I read about that? :)
[19:45] <lmat> Gnea: I went there to see if he was in there, but he's not :(
[19:46] <Gnea> lmat: yup. trolls will be trolls.
[19:46] <FATnerd> what is the kb shortcut for opening up chrome web browser?
[19:46] <Lockzi> Please notice that this is services running. Typically the user will not be logged in through terminal
[19:46] <lmat> Lockzi: I dunno. I think you should have each user use fsmount... oh crap, that's not it.
[19:46] <lmat> Lockzi: hold on... how are they logged on ?
[19:47] <Lockzi> lmat: Just through services running under that user
[19:47] <lmat> Lockzi: hmm... anyway, use the user-space mounting tool (what's that called ?0
[19:47] <Lockzi> Like for instance MySQLd runs under the user mysql
[19:47] <lmat> fusermount
[19:47] <lmat> (man -k user | grep mount    to the rescue)
[19:48] <Lockzi> lmat: Can I still have the SAME mount point for all users?
[19:48] <lmat> Lockzi: And mount the share as that user.
[19:48] <lmat> Lockzi: no.
[19:48] <BarackObama_X> Hope and Change.
[19:48] <lmat> Lockzi: What does 'under different server credentials' mean ?
[19:49] <Lockzi> lmat: Let me explain my reason for questioning instead so I don't go too far down a dark alley...
[19:50] <FATnerd> any nerds know how to disable auto update ?
[19:50] <FATnerd> cmon
[19:50] <lmat> Lockzi: Sorry, I hadn't read the original question closely enough.
[19:50] <reisio> FATnerd: help.ubuntu.com knows
[19:50] <Lockzi> I have successfully mounted a CIFS share using: \\10.0.1.2\seedboxdl            /dot.tkd/readynas/seedboxdl cifs    user,group,password=PASS,uid=1000,gid=1003,username=USER,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777       0       0
[19:51] <Prothumos> I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I am trying to find a ppa for the plugin: pidgin-sipe version 1.17 to install, but I am having no luck finding it. The best I can find is ppa for pidgin-sipe 1.15. Will I need to compile from the source?
[19:51] <Lockzi> gid 1003 = a group called "dling"
[19:51] <FATnerd> then what this room for ? oh I forgot
[19:51] <rayv> Prothumos: yes
[19:51] <Prothumos> Side note: *I've never compiled from source*
[19:51] <rayv> Prothumos: good time to learn
[19:51] <Prothumos> would you have a suggestion on a good tutorial of how to learn?
[19:51] <Lockzi> Now, on my local system I have 4 users: admin, sabnzbd, sickbeard, couchpotato. All of these users can browse the shares successfully
[19:52] <DJones> !patience | FATnerd
[19:52] <lmat> Lockzi: (are they members of dling?)
[19:52] <Lockzi> They can even RWX the files - but NOT in all folders
[19:52] <Lockzi> lmat: Yes
[19:52] <peb7268> Hi all, im trying to execute this command and its telling me unknown option to -s I think I need to quote the numbers and slashes or something. Anyone tell me what im doing wrong? sudo sed -i -e 's/listen = 127.0.0.1:9000/listen = /var/run/php5-fpm.sock/g' /etc/php5/fpm/pool.d/www.conf
[19:53] <BarackObama_X> Buy Microsoft.
[19:53] <rayv> Prothumos: gere u have short tutorial of how to compile from source http://www.wikihow.com/Compile-a-Program-in-Linux
[19:53] <Lockzi> Doing "ls -lah" tells me that the permissions as listed in bash is still 777, but I am getting Permission denied error 13 on all users except the owner (admin)
[19:53] <lmat> peb7268: um...
[19:53] <lmat> peb7268: What website did you copy this from ?
[19:53] <FATnerd> my load is up to 5.0 . help me to disable auto update
[19:53] <peb7268> Stack overflpw
[19:53] <FATnerd> cmon nerds
[19:53] <peb7268> overflow
[19:53] <Prothumos> wonderful, thank you
[19:53] <lmat> Lockzi: Who owns the files that don't work ?
[19:53] <DJones> FATnerd: Be patient, and be respectful
[19:53] <FATnerd> sorry
[19:53] <Lockzi> lmat: the user called admin (which also is a member of the dling group)
[19:53] <FATnerd> I am freaking out right now
[19:54] <reisio> FATnerd: about what
[19:54] <Guest16566> how do you save on a usb that is running ubuntu
[19:54] <lmat> Lockzi: And which group owns them ?
[19:54] <reisio> Guest16566: ordinarily you don't
[19:54] <FATnerd> I need to know how to stop the auto update
[19:54] <Guest16566> how do you set it up to do it?
[19:54] <rayv> Prothumos: but its better to make *.deb package first and then install, you can do it with checkinstall
[19:54] <Rollili> hello
[19:54] <lmat> FATnerd: Have you tried 'sudo poweroff' ?
[19:54] <reisio> FATnerd: an update that is running?
[19:54] <jhutchins_wk> Guest16566: The USB is running ubuntu?
[19:54] <reisio> lmat: that's not a great idea
[19:54] <Lockzi> lmat: "admin : dling"
[19:54] <FATnerd> what?
[19:55] <lmat> reisio: Depends on what he wants
[19:55] <reisio> lmat: it doesn't :p
[19:55] <Guest16566> yes
[19:55] <lmat> Lockzi: I see... interesting. And the permission is still 777 ?
[19:55] <Lockzi> lmat: Yes
[19:55] <lmat> reisio: That's what I do when I freak out.. :P
[19:55] <cynicist> Harmageddon: Hey I looked into it for you and its a very difficult issue with newer switchable graphics, here is some info on it you may want to check out but I don't think you will be able to get what you need until projects like Bumblebee are more mature
[19:55] <reisio> lmat: that doesn't make it a great idea :p
[19:55] <cynicist> Harmageddon: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/hybrid_graphics#The_New_Dynamic_Switching_Model
[19:55] <lmat> reisio: touche
[19:55] <peb7268> any takers on my regex sed question?
[19:55] <reisio> :p
[19:55] <reisio> peb7268: which question?
[19:55] <lmat> peb7268: learn the substitute syntax.
[19:55] <lmat> reisio: He has unescaped / in his sed s//
[19:56] <peb7268> it works
[19:56] <lmat> peb7268: oh, nevermind, no problem then :)
[19:56] <geoffmcc> Guest16566: assuming you are using the usb to boot on a windows machine, check out Linux Live USB Creator or search for another one that has Persistence
[19:56] <peb7268> i used it on another deal
[19:56] <reisio> lmat: that's not enough information
[19:56] <peb7268> the numbers or the slashes or spaces are killing the regex i think
[19:56] <peb7268> see above resio ( pls and thanks ) :)
[19:56] <MissingAPI> hi. i need help updating ubuntu 12.04 LTS :( update manager fails to download libpostproc52_0.8.8-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_amd64.deb. it is even missing in the repository!? http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/liba/libav/
[19:56] <lmat> peb7268: the slashes. Do you know what the slashes mean in sed s?
[19:56] <lmat> Lockzi: hmm
[19:56] <peb7268> yeah I know what the beginning and ending slashes mean
[19:57] <lmat> Lockzi: If a file is part of group A, mod 777, and user B is member of group A, user B should be able to read the file.
[19:57] <peb7268> sudo sed -i -e 's/listen = 127.0.0.1:9000/listen = /var/run/php5-fpm.sock/g' /etc/php5/fpm/pool.d/www.conf
[19:57] <Harmageddon> cynicist: Thank you! I'll look into this. Do you think, that my chances are better on Ubuntu 12.04 or xubuntu? Or should I just wait, until bumblebee works for me?
[19:57] <lmat> peb7268: Any other slashes screw it up and must be preceeded by \
[19:57] <peb7268> right
[19:57] <BarackObama_X> Buy Windows.
[19:57] <lmat> peb7268: So do it :)
[19:57] <reisio> BarackObama_X: good idea
[19:57] <Lockzi> lmat: The problem is not reading. All users can read... But they can't create new files and not edit existing...
[19:57] <DJones> BarackObama_X: PLease stop that
[19:57] <peb7268> I knew that, just didnt know if I need to escape slashes, spaces, equals and dots or just the slashes and .
[19:58] <MissingAPI> does anyone know why that lib is missing and how i can update my security patches now?
[19:58] <peb7268> I know in regex . is a quantifier usually
[19:58] <lmat> Lockzi: So... touch file   doesn't work ?
[19:58] <Lockzi> lmat: Exactly
[19:58] <lmat> peb7268: Oh yeah, if you want to be more strict, use \.
[19:58] <BarackObama_X> Sir yes sir!
[19:58] <cynicist> Harmageddon: Either one will have the same issues, the support for switchable graphics is just too new in the Linux world at the moment.
[19:58] <lmat> Lockzi: Very odd, very odd.
[19:58] <Lockzi> lmat: touch is even what I am trying...
[19:58] <lmat> Lockzi: It's busted.
[19:58] <peb7268> Ok, im going to try escaping everything haha
[19:58] <cynicist> Harmageddon: so use whichever you enjoy more :)
[19:58] <lmat> peb7268: Probably should escape the slashes first...
[19:59] <peb7268> so spaces are fine?
[19:59] <FATnerd> thanks lmat . rm -rf solved the problem
[19:59] <lmat> peb7268: inside '' yes
[19:59] <FATnerd> cool
[19:59] <lmat> um I didn't offer that...
[19:59] <Harmageddon> cynicist: Well, if I don't see anything, I'm not enjoying much. Console login seems to look pretty much the same for different versions ;)
[19:59] <peb7268> thanks so much
[19:59] <peb7268> that did it looks like
[19:59] <FreddyFree|0ader> quit
[20:00] <cynicist> Harmageddon: oh wait what? I thought your issue was just not being able to turn off a gpu, you can't even boot?
[20:00] <Harmageddon> cynicist: Exactly :(
[20:00] <cynicist> Harmageddon: Was this always an issue or did something break a working install?
[20:00] <Dudytz> hi all .. ubuntu "stable" is based in the debian unstable?
[20:00] <lmat> Dudytz: How would you do it ?
[20:00] <reisio> Dudytz: Ubuntu doesn't have a stable
[20:00] <reisio> Dudytz: but yes Ubuntu is based on not-stable versions of Debian
[20:00] <Harmageddon> cynicist: I managed to boot the install CD once, with nomodeset. Installation worked fine, but since then, when I'm starting it normally, it doesn't work.
[20:01] <reisio> not-"stable"
[20:01] <lmat> reisio: Welcome back :)
[20:01] <reisio> lmat: I pressed the wrong key combo :p
[20:01] <Dudytz> a debian unstable installing (with gnome desktop) is very similar to ubuntu gnome 13.10?
[20:01] <lmat> reisio: oh, good, you didn't give  sudo poweroff  a whirl :P
[20:02] <reisio> hahah
[20:02] <reisio> Dudytz: yes that would be true
[20:03] <kostkon> Dudytz, there are a few differences, like ubuntu using upstart instead of sysv
[20:03] <kostkon> for example*
[20:05] <peb7268> exit
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> Dudytz  planning to create another ubuntu derivative?
[20:08] <Dudytz> no! LoL ... plan to migrate from ubuntu to debian
[20:08] <Dudytz> or to ubuntu gnome
[20:08] <bekks> Dudytz: Because you need to use older software? ;)
[20:09] <Dudytz> no, because I don't like unity
[20:09] <Dudytz> and I use desktop via x forwarding in a lxc container
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> Dudytz  install other DE, logout, switch, login
[20:09] <Dudytz> and is very problematic to install the ubuntu from minimal and install gnome without the unity things
[20:10] <Dudytz> (sorry my bad english)
[20:10] <Pici> Dudytz: Why is it a problem?
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> !mini
[20:10] <jhutchins_wk> Sometimes people PM me and it's days before I even notice the new tab.
[20:11] <reisio> jhutchins_wk: you can probably make irssi yell more, if you wanted to
[20:11] <reisio> see #irssi
[20:12] <jhutchins_wk> reisio: I really don't.
[20:12] <reisio> :)
[20:12] <jhutchins_wk> reisio: I don't mind PMs, but they end up being pointless.
[20:12]  * topper4125 only uses Mini
[20:12] <jhutchins_wk> ... which is one of the reasons I don't mind them.
[20:12] <reisio> I prefer /notice's, but most people don't know about them
[20:13] <Dudytz> ok .. I have been installed ubuntu saucy (using minimal cd) ... I install ubuntu-gnome-desktop and gdm ... but when I run gnome-session in the x forwarding, I see the unity desktop, how to change to gnome?
[20:13] <reisio> actually what I _really_ prefer is people who get upset at reading IRC messages to either learn how to use /ignore or to leave :p
[20:13] <reisio> but since that'll never happen, I use /notice and /msg to say certain things privately
[20:13] <topper4125> Dudytz, log out, click the 'lil icon next to your name on the login screen, select DE of your choice
[20:14] <Dudytz> I don't have the login manager
[20:14] <Dudytz> is a X forwarding via a ssh logged with the correct user
[20:14] <Dudytz> I need only to start the desktop
[20:14] <Dudytz> but, when I run gnome-session, the desktop manager that is executed is the unity
[20:15] <bekks> Dudytz: Then start another desktop.
[20:15] <Dudytz> is there a configuration file to set the gnome as the default dm?
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> Dudytz  unity a shell over gnome3
[20:15] <Dudytz> great, how to disable it?
[20:15] <Dudytz> and set the "pure" gnome3
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> Dudytz  find gnome-shell
[20:17] <kostkon> Dudytz, gnome classic or gnome shell is the one you want?
[20:17] <Dudytz> gnome-shell
[20:17] <Dudytz> is just the command that I execute
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> Dudytz  does gnome-shell suit you, is your issue solved?
[20:22] <Dudytz> no, when I start gnome-shell .. I see the unity dm
[20:23] <alnkpa2> is there a to swap back all that's been swapped out of the RAM?
[20:23] <alnkpa2> *a way
[20:23] <bekks> sudo swapoff
[20:24] <alnkpa2> and to reenable it right away?
[20:24] <funky> https://www.jungledisk.com/business/server/features/ can I use it to mirror entire server?
[20:24] <funky> wonders
[20:26] <FlashSoul> Hello. If anyone could help me, it would be greatly appreciated. My story is a bit long so I wrote it there. Thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6422985/
[20:26] <Pici> funky: Ask them.  I'm not sure why you think we'd know about some third party tool.
[20:26] <funky> Pici well its very popular tool
[20:26] <FlashSoul> Extra info : Ubuntu is the only OS on this computer.
[20:26] <FlashSoul> or was
[20:26] <funky> so I think someone probably used it
[20:27] <Pici> funky: It has nothing to do with Ubuntu support. You should contact rackspace for questions: https://support.jungledisk.com/home
[20:28] <funky> Pici dude its related to ubuntu
[20:28] <funky> as it helps many ubuntu users to back up their servers
[20:28] <funky> :P
[20:29] <olf-folks> why do i have a chinese ip address trying to ssh my server?
[20:29] <reisio> olf-folks: why wouldn't you
[20:29] <Pici> olf-folks: welcome to the internet
[20:29] <reisio> also have you been outside today? You might bein China
[20:30] <reisio> !
[20:30] <FlashSoul> old-folks : Have fun with a honeypot
[20:31] <olf-folks> can anyone look at this pcap file and tell me if they were trying to connect or if they were activly doing something on my server?
[20:31] <Pici> olf-folks: Probably just trying to login. Thats what happens when you have a server on the internet.  Check your auth.log and perhaps install fail2ban or a similar package.
[20:36] <olf-folks> wow, apparently yeah there has been about 8000 attempts to break in to my root acct via ssh
[20:37] <olf-folks> all diffrent ips lol
[20:37] <reisio> olf-folks: disabling the ability to ssh in as root isn't the worst idea
[20:37] <reisio> other than that, people are going to try to break into your server, always
[20:37] <reisio> you can force them to at least go through the effort of finding another IP to try with, though
[20:38] <reisio> with things like fail2ban
[20:38] <reisio> won't stop it, but makes it less noisy
[20:40] <olf-folks> reisio: i have a 22 char alpha numric root password hahaha
[20:41] <reisio> olf-folks: so you have a bad root password
[20:41] <reisio> olf-folks: http://xkcd.com/936/
[20:41] <Pici> olf-folks: Then at least disable root login from ssh.
[20:41] <jhutchins_wk> olf-folks: If you run sshd on 22 you get brute force attacks.  Law of the internet.
[20:42] <reisio> you get them regardless
[20:42] <FlashSoul> In any case you should refrain from giving such information about your password.
[20:42] <reisio> no that was smart
[20:42] <reisio> now he knows he chose his password badly
[20:43] <jhutchins_wk> olf-folks: The only effective thing left to do is to run it on an obscure port, and they're catching on to that too.
[20:44] <jhutchins_wk> olf-folks: fail2ban and throttling worked until they started doing low-speed distributed attacks.  They come from a lot of different IPs and aren't repeated often enough to get banned.
[20:45] <olf-folks> yeah the log showed them changeing the port every attempt
[20:46] <olf-folks> i would estimate aronund 10k failed attempts to login
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> what is so important that you need a server is my question
[20:47] <soczol> hi, my server was in the middle of a 'resize2fs' call when it suddenly became unreachable. SSHing accepts username and password, but nothing happens after that. I can connect to it through IPMI but when I log I only get the "last login from <x>" header, and nothing else; could this be caused by the resize2fs operation? and if so, I guess that rebooting at this time would be a bad idea?
[20:47] <Nach0z> soczol: if this happened to me I'd leave it alone for a while. I get the feeling it's chugging away and getting hung up on disk IO.
[20:48] <Nach0z> also I really hope you did that inside tmux/screen/byobu/something.
[20:48] <Lockzi> drwxrws---+ 944 administrator dling    0 Nov  7 12:20 movies - What does the + in the permissions mean?
[20:49] <soczol> Nach0z: yeah.. I really should have, but I noticed way too late that it was taking so long, and aborting it at that point was not an option (if possible at all) :(
[20:51] <Nach0z> yeah >___>
[20:51] <soczol> Nach0z: guess I'll just keep it running then, and hope for the best; I do have a quite recent backup, but still, would rather not want to go to the trouble to restore it
[20:51] <soczol> I guess rebooting it at this point would probably break it even more
[20:51] <olf-folks> my log shows that amazon was trying to ssh into my server xD
[20:51] <Nach0z> yeah the one thing I've learned in all my server everything, is to make sure that any operations that take more than about a minute to run should be done in tmux
[20:52] <JohnDust> hello everybody
[20:57] <jimgroth> Hey guys. I'm sure what I've done but I can't log in via SSH. It refuses my password that works locally.
[20:57] <jimgroth> *I'm -not- sure. :P
[20:58] <jimgroth> oh, Ubuntu Server 13.04 btw
[21:00] <John20> jimgroth: try to delete ssh folder ( rm .ssh -R)
[21:01] <bekks> John20: How should that help?
[21:02] <zykotick9> John20: that -R is in the wrong place... and probably NOT a great thing to be doing.  jimgroth
[21:02] <jimgroth> thanks but I already noticed the recursive rm. ^^
[21:02] <jimgroth> Always makes me go "hmm"
[21:02] <John20> maybe bad configuration? sorry if i typed something bad
[21:02] <olf-folks> what dose this mean
[21:02] <olf-folks> Nov 14 14:17:01 ubuntu CRON[7206]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[21:02] <Pici> John20: that would remove all of the user's ssh keys, which would be bad.
[21:03] <jimgroth> would matter not on this machine. :P
[21:03] <Pici> olf-folks: it means that one of root's cron job's just ran.
[21:03] <Siper> Hi, I need help installing ubuntu, is it ok to ask?
[21:03] <Pici> Siper: thats what this channel is for.
[21:04] <topper4125> !ask | Siper
[21:04] <Siper> Ah, great. Well I'd like to know whats the easiest way to go about installing ubuntu on an external harddrive. I want it to act like the full OS though.
[21:04] <zykotick9> John20: well the -R at the end does still work (my bad).  I figured it would try looking for a "-R" to remove.
[21:05] <Siper> I'm on a windows OS atm.
[21:05] <John20> zykotick9: Maybe to move .ssh to .sshbackup would be better, but that was my quick and dirty idea.^^
[21:05] <zykotick9> John20: for sure!
[21:08] <ikonia>  
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> Siper, A external will run slow a bit chunky, a usb flash would run better.
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> Siper, However ai neglected to ask is this a usb2 or usb3?
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> I*
[21:10] <Siper> I only have usb 2 on this laptop sadly
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> Siper, Di you understand the general speed reading/writing differences between a internal and external
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> Do*
[21:11] <FlashSoul> Hello. If anyone could help me, it would be greatly appreciated. My story is a bit long so I wrote it there. Thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6422985/
[21:11] <Siper> Yes I do
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> Siper, A virtual install would be better, however ubuntu in a virtual is a bit slow as well.
[21:12] <bekks> wilee-nilee: For me, it isnt.
[21:12] <olf-folks> if i wanted to format/reinstall but wanted to keep my openbox/conky/terminator/etc configuration
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> bekks, Cool, I suppose there are variables in this, just trying to help.
[21:13] <bekks> wilee-nilee: Yeah, no offense meant :)
[21:14] <Siper> well I don't want to partition the internal drive, and computer has 32bit windows but supports 64 bit.. I thought maybe installing ubuntu on an external drive to get bit more performance out of my computer
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> bekks, No problem any input is good. ;)
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> Siper, Is this a oem windows?
[21:14] <olf-folks> can i just copy my home dir to an exthd, reinstall then paste it back in?
[21:14] <Siper> oem?
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> Siper, Original Manufacturer Install.
[21:15] <Siper> I'm not sure but it's capping out ram at 3gb
[21:15] <edoceo> which package has `scp` command?  Some reason it's on on my system :(
[21:16] <bekks> Siper: 32bit windows have an unusable RAM window of about 768M above 3GB.
[21:16] <zykotick9> edoceo: should be openssh-client
[21:16] <Siper> Yeah, :s
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> Siper, I have a toshiba laptop with 3 gigs ram a dual core about 5 yeras old, I have W8.1 64 bit and 3 Linux on it with a SSD it runs pretty fast, however I don't overdrive its use.
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> all installs are 64 bit
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> ls
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> wc :P
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Siper, What I am wondering is can you reinstall the windows as a 64 bit and dual boot the ubuntu, or really for best use the ubuntu just dualbooted now, it's rather easy if you have the room.
[21:18] <Siper_> Ah darnit, tripped on my adapter
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> Siper_, The external install is just using the manual install from the live cd/usb we can help you do it, but just wondering if that is really your bets option is all.
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> best*
[21:20] <Siper_> Well I think it's my only option right now
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> Siper_, In what way?
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> Siper_, It may just be a waste of time, we see people having problems here is all.
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> THe 32 bit Ubuntu has pae kernels that will use all 3 gigs as well now
[21:25] <Siper> My laptop supports 64 bit
[21:25] <moppy> 32 or 64 gb ram with 32 bit pae i think : the same as windows servers
[21:25] <Siper> ah sorry
[21:25] <moppy> of course you still have the process limit
[21:26] <moppy> that's just total memory
[21:26] <moppy> (Someone was saying 32 bit windows was limited to 4GB, that's not actually true: it only applies to desktop versions of windows)
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> Siper, Yes you said that, how is that causing you to want a external, it will not make better use or run better in realtion to the computer as a 64 bit or a external
[21:27] <bekks> moppy: Its not true at all, since using PAE works on Desktop versions too.
[21:28] <FlashSoul> If you activate it only. It's not on by default. I believe it's nly available for vista+ too.
[21:28] <moppy> bekks, windows desktop OS has PAE yes, but they programmed in an artifical memory cap (probably to make people upgrade). Win servers dont have that cap)
[21:28] <bekks> FlashSoul: Yes.
[21:28] <moppy> Siper, i dont see any advantage to 64 bit for you at the moment
[21:28] <bekks> moppy: 32bit versions of Windows Servers do have the same gap.
[21:29] <Siper_> I see, I got your last message wilee-nilee, and moppy.
[21:29] <Siper_> I think I'll skip on the idea then
[21:29] <moppy> bekks, no they dont: they can address 32+ GB. You're welcome to check their specs if you wish
[21:29] <Siper_> thanks!
[21:29] <bekks> Siper: When having 64bit hw, using 64bit OS is the way to go.
[21:29] <bekks> moppy: I do know them, thats why I said "no" ;)
[21:30] <moppy> well i can't parse your current statements as they seem contradictory :)
[21:30] <moppy> maybe i am just dumb
[21:30] <funky> how many giga average ubuntu server takes?
[21:30] <moppy> funky on disk?
[21:30] <funky> yes
[21:30] <moppy> funky, i did a minium install on an 8GB VM and it had 4.5 free after installing
[21:30] <funky> I am copying entire server and it shows 128 TB so far
[21:30] <funky> like wtf
[21:30] <funky> :)
[21:30] <moppy> funky, your mileage may vary
[21:31] <funky> I think its 3rd party tool bug
[21:31] <bekks> FlashSoul: Then leave out /proc/kmem ;)
[21:31] <funky> it would bo be able to mirror 128 TB in 3 min anyway
[21:31] <funky> not
[21:34] <LOvER> hi people
[21:36] <reisio> hi, lover
[21:36] <LOvER> hi reisio
[21:36] <LOvER> i m new to this   haa XD
[21:37] <reisio> :)
[21:37] <LOvER> so anyone knows how to crack mikrotik networks ?
[21:37] <Pici> LOvER: you're in the wrong place for that.
[21:38] <LOvER> so what is the right place   ?
[21:38] <Pici> LOvER: nowhere on freenode.
[21:38] <LOvER> and what is the main goal of this chatting app?
[21:38] <Pici> LOvER: This is the official Ubuntu support channel.
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> heh not with love that's for sure
[21:38] <LOvER> omFg    hehe   lmao
[21:39] <LOvER> well i am using xubuntu
[21:39] <Pici> !illegal | LOvER
[21:39] <LOvER> :v
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> mmmm a swearing cracker
[21:40] <LOvER> the hell is that ..      ok i am out   alot of places there how to crack any network     . that is the ideia  of linux in general    craaaaaaaaacking
[21:40] <LOvER> PEACE
[21:40] <SamSagaZ> is possible to install ubuntu without debian?
[21:40] <SamSagaZ> ups
[21:40] <SamSagaZ> i mean without gnome
[21:40] <SamSagaZ> :D
[21:41] <funky> (11:40:35 PM) LOvER: the hell is that ..      ok i am out   alot of places there how to crack any network     . that is the ideia  of linux in general    craaaaaaaaacking
[21:41] <funky> lol
[21:41] <SamSagaZ> hehe
[21:41] <xangua> SamSagaZ: xubuntu, kubuntu
[21:41] <CormacMcFionn> least he got the cracking term right :P
[21:41] <SamSagaZ> xangua: thanks!
[21:41] <funky> I like hacking too :)
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> SamSagaZ, gnome underlies unity and several of the other desktops, you are not actually using it directly unless you install the shell.
[21:42]  * jimgroth scrolls back up. Sounds like I missed some drama. ^^
[21:42] <funky> chinese are ok at cracking aka copy cats :)
[21:42] <SamSagaZ> dont want to get space wasted.
[21:42] <SamSagaZ> xubuntu packages are the same as ubuntu?
[21:43] <jimgroth> Are you looking for a tiny ubuntu install or what?
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> SamSagaZ, I doubt you know at all what your doing and have a false goal to be honest.
[21:43] <reisio> xubuntu is ubuntu with Xfce installed by default
[21:43] <Pici> SamSagaZ: it provides xfce instead of gnome/unity.
[21:43] <SamSagaZ> thanks guys
[21:43] <SamSagaZ> will install xubuntu then!
[21:44] <jimgroth> I kind of like lubuntu. Feels... petite.
[21:44] <wilee-nilee>  a net install is t5he smallest if you build the desktop
[21:44] <SamSagaZ> yeah, will use net install
[21:45] <PaRaD0xx> hi, can I ask about an issue I'm having with Lubuntu in here?  Ubuntu can see my one windows share just fine, but I get "failed to mount windows share" on the Lubuntu I just installed on my laptop.
[21:45] <PaRaD0xx> I installed Samba, thought that might the problem, still nothing
[21:45] <PaRaD0xx> not sure I have it configured correctly
[21:46] <jimgroth> I think Samba is installed together with lubuntu
[21:46] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: did it tell you to run "dmesg | tail" to get more info on the error?
[21:48] <PaRaD0xx> no, it did not
[21:48] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: can you do so?
[21:48] <PaRaD0xx> I can see the shares, just can't connect
[21:48] <PaRaD0xx> ok
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> SamSagaZ, So with the net install you can build a simple de or use a really light one.
[21:48] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: make sure smbfs and smbclient are installed. you can use smbclient to connect CLI style to see if there's an issue there
[21:50] <PaRaD0xx> hmm..dont' see anything in the dmesg...ofc, not sure what to look for, very new at this
[21:51] <DeepBlue>  what ia the package name of gnome classic and gnome shell?
[21:51] <PaRaD0xx> k, smbclient installed
[21:52] <xangua> !nounity | DeepBlue
[21:52] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: no problem, is your windows share setup as requiring user+pass?
[21:52] <daftykins> also which Windows
[21:53] <PaRaD0xx> no, it is not
[21:53] <PaRaD0xx> XP
[21:53] <PaRaD0xx> Ubuntu sees it fine, can access everything fine
[21:53] <PaRaD0xx> but Lubuntu can't
[21:54] <PaRaD0xx> I can see the shared drives, but can't open them to view contents
[21:55] <CormacMcFionn> try mounting them in fstab?
[21:55]  * CormacMcFionn had to do that in ubuntu
[21:55] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: just guest access then?
[21:55] <PaRaD0xx> how?  very new to *nix ;)
[21:55] <daftykins> CormacMcFionn: unnecessary
[21:56] <PaRaD0xx> well, no pass, I think
[21:56] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: one sec
[21:57] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: ok so in a terminal, run "smbclient //IP of your windows box/sharename"
[21:57] <PaRaD0xx> on Ubuntu on this machine atm
[21:57] <PaRaD0xx> laptop is open with 13.10 Lubuntu
[21:57] <PaRaD0xx> and an old xp desktop
[21:57] <CormacMcFionn> Well if PaRaD0xx wants to try that way its : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[21:57] <PaRaD0xx> ok
[21:57] <PaRaD0xx> let me try
[21:58] <daftykins> CormacMcFionn: no point faffing with config file editing to establish a permanent mount when we just need to test it first
[21:58] <PaRaD0xx> hmm
[21:58] <PaRaD0xx> errors
[21:58]  * CormacMcFionn nods
[21:58] <daftykins> what does it say?
[21:58] <PaRaD0xx> last line is "nt status bad network name"
[21:58] <shambat> I am trying Ubuntu 12.04 on a live usb, and I'm getting a reboot loop after I choose "Try Ubuntu without installing" or "Install Ubuntu" ... I cant make a selection that doesnt cause a reboot ... any help?
[21:58] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: you used the IP address not the computer name, yes?
[21:58] <PaRaD0xx> right
[21:59] <daftykins> are you sure it's correct?
[21:59] <PaRaD0xx> hmm
[21:59] <PaRaD0xx> let me try again
[21:59] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: i'm expecting a pretty standard 192.168.x.x subnet
[21:59] <paul__> ?
[21:59] <dougl> my kubuntu 13.10 keeps giving me errors regarding 2 packages that aren't installed and cannot be removed - is there anyone that can help me with the output, I cannot figer out what to google for to fix it
[21:59] <dougl> the errors are from apt-get dist-upgrade.
[22:00] <paul__> oops, sorry
[22:00] <dougl> one is for grub and theother is...
[22:00] <paul__> All: how do I get a list of commands?  /help doesn't seem to do anyting.
[22:00] <daftykins> dougl: can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to show what's up?
[22:00] <daftykins> paul__: join #freenode for IRC help
[22:00] <PaRaD0xx> ok...wait..I had to use "
[22:00] <PaRaD0xx> smbclient "//192.168.x.x./my share name"
[22:00] <PaRaD0xx> e.g.
[22:00] <PaRaD0xx> that worked
[22:01] <PaRaD0xx> via CLI
[22:01] <paul__> daftykins: thanks
[22:01] <PaRaD0xx> progress I think? :)
[22:01] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: excellent, so "ls" shows the contents?
[22:01] <PaRaD0xx> daftykins: yes
[22:02] <snollux> What's the convention for making / installing README files from a packae?
[22:02] <PaRaD0xx> but nothing via the file manager/gui
[22:02] <snollux> *package?
[22:02] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: good stuff, type 'exit' to return to the normal prompt.
[22:02] <PaRaD0xx> done
[22:02] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: do you want to have this share accessible from the laptop each time you boot+login?
[22:02] <PaRaD0xx> yes
[22:03] <John20> Which ubuntu compatible Radeon card should I take? Should be good in energy consumpent, found 7850 yet, any other ideas?
[22:03] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: ok, there'll be a series of fun commands to get it permanently setup - but i'll just have a quick google to check that there isn't a better graphical way in Lubuntu, one sec
[22:03] <John20> Should have 2GB and about max 150 euros
[22:03] <SamSagaZ> speed/performance of debian/ubuntu/xubuntu are the same?
[22:03] <PaRaD0xx> ok, thanks daftykins
[22:04] <dougl> daftykins, I can remember how to do that... give me a sec, and thanks.
[22:04]  * CormacMcFionn hasnt tried lubuntu, just Xubuntu and Ubuntu
[22:05] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: ah-ha check out this link. it recommends installing the packages "samba-common" and "fuse-utils" which may allow the Lubuntu file manager to let you browse onto your Windows PC - i can't be sure if you'll need to reboot first: http://askubuntu.com/questions/249678/how-to-access-samba-shares-in-lubuntu-12-10
[22:05] <eyfour> SamSagaZ: No. They all run different desktop environments, and thus perform differently.
[22:05] <PaRaD0xx> ok, i'll check that out and let you know how it goes ;)
[22:05] <CormacMcFionn> SamSagaZ: No, Xubuntu is a min resorces version of ubuntu, Ubuntu is the full tilt, and debian is what is the root distro of thoes two each behave differently
[22:05] <PaRaD0xx> thanks
[22:06] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: oh and if it still causes trouble, try recreating a share without spaces in the name :)
[22:06] <SamSagaZ> ok.
[22:07] <CormacMcFionn> SamSagaZ: Think Debian, Ubuntu then tweaks and changes Debian, Xubuntu takes Ubuntu, yanks out Unity, puts on XFCE
[22:07] <reisio> 'Xfce'
[22:08] <FlashSoul> Hello. If anyone could help me, it would be greatly appreciated. My story is a bit long so I wrote it there. Thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6422985/
[22:09] <PaRaD0xx> hmm
[22:09] <PaRaD0xx> unable to locate package fuse-utils
[22:09] <dougl> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/jJaX0ACG is the source of my confusion... anyone else wanna help me figer out the output of apt-get dist-upgrade on my 13.10 install I'd appreciate it.
[22:09] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: ah well perhaps it isn't needed
[22:09] <Asterisk_> i am trying to do an install of ubuntu 12.04. I keep getting failed to execute grub-install on /dev/sdb. which log file do I consult to find out why
[22:10] <PaRaD0xx> rebooting it
[22:11] <daftykins> dougl: hrmm it's not very descriptive is it? can you pastebin the output of "tail /var/log/dpkg.log" ?
[22:11] <PaRaD0xx> see if that does anything
[22:11] <randolph`> FlashSoul: I'm not really sure, but I had a similar problem and loaded into a live distro and downloaded the tool boot-repair. It worked for me. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:12] <PaRaD0xx> hrm, nothin
[22:12] <PaRaD0xx> still nothin daftykins
[22:12] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: is that with a share without spaces in the name too?
[22:12] <swizgard> hey. since when is /etc/init.d/cups stop not working anymore but one has to use service cups stop?
[22:13] <FlashSoul> randolph` : I did the same. It just made things worse, actually. You can read it in the link I gave.
[22:13] <schultza> How do I get Gnome-Terminal to show what program or directory I'm in? Even if I ssh to another computer?
[22:13] <daftykins> dougl: actually i found a relevant askubuntu.com page - suggesting to just remove the package grub-efi-amd64-signed then re-run your dist-upgrade
[22:13] <SamSagaZ> thanks CormacMcFionn
[22:13] <CormacMcFionn> np
[22:13] <reisio> swizgard: you've been _supposed_ to use service for quite some time now
[22:13] <daftykins> schultza: directory? pwd
[22:13] <reisio> swizgard: since Ubuntu 6.10, probably
[22:13] <swizgard> reisio: but what happened to steam engines?
[22:13] <reisio> swizgard: pardon?
[22:14] <schultza> all it shows is user@machine:directory, but doesnt change when i ssh or use a program
[22:14] <swizgard> reisio: nothing, i just feel antiquated <:
[22:14] <schultza> i have 3 terminals up and they all say the local user at the local computer in the home directory for the title.
[22:14] <FlashSoul> Ah crap I wrote Grub Repair instead of Boot repair
[22:15] <kiwi_> hi ... i have a huawei usb mobile broadband dongle and it always worked flawless with all my ubuntu boxes. right now i'm chatting over this device. however, today i installed a new 12.04 box and this morning the dongle worked as usual with this machine. but now i came home, started the box and cant connect the mobile broadband anymore with this particula machine. the dongle is recognized by lsusb and is active as shown by blinking led. still, the sim authentic
[22:15] <kiwi_> ation dialog wont pop up for initiating the connection. any idea how i can activate the mobile brroadband connection? sorry for these long explanations.
[22:15] <davidfetter_disq> hello
[22:15] <reisio> hi david
[22:15] <randolph`> FlashSoul: can you see your hard drive when you boot from a live usb/disk?
[22:15] <davidfetter_disq> is there a link for the new kernel for 12.04 lts?
[22:15] <FlashSoul> I can see it but it won't mount.
[22:15]  * davidfetter_disq has heard of it, but no actual info other than its existence
[22:16] <dougl> daftykins, so "apt-get remove grub-efi-amd64-signed"? and the tail command = http://pastebin.com/gFW8zzgB which does not look any more informative
[22:16] <randolph`> hmmm... you might have to manually mount it through the terminal. I'm not exactly sure how to do this.. sorry.
[22:16] <daftykins> dougl: roger that, just checking. yep remove
[22:17] <FlashSoul> Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superlock on /dev/sda1
[22:17] <imanc> I have a problem where my ubuntu stalls on the plymouth boot screen.  The last entry in boot.log is re's loading plymouth.  Memcheck is fine, fsck on my /home partition shows no problems.  And I can boot without any issues in recovery mode.  I'm running an Lenovo X1 with integrated intel graphics, and 12.04 ubuntu install as the sole OS.  I'm not seeing anything speciifc in the logs, except reports of CPU overheating.  And occas
[22:17] <dougl> daftykins, hey thanks for making is more comfortable and educating me - appreciate the help
[22:17] <randolph`> FlashSoul: have you tried this? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/recover-bad-superblock-from-corrupted-partition/
[22:17] <FlashSoul> Thanks anyway randolph`
[22:18] <randolph`> yw
[22:18] <daftykins> dougl: no problemo
[22:18] <Phoenixz> For some reason, (as far as I could see, no reason) my PHP went from fine to segfaults only... I was working, out of the blue, boom.. I traced the problem to either the PDO module, or libapache-mod-php5.. The latter, I'm not sure because I first noticed the segfaults on CLI. I tried reboot, reinstall, but when I tried to purge the packages, I got lots of errors on libapache-mod-php5. Status right now is that I cannot apt-get purge libapache2-mod-
[22:18] <Phoenixz> php5 php5, it errors with "ERROR: Module php5 does not exist!" and then it dies. Anybody here know what I could do besides a complete reinstall which is not really an option for me at this (kinda critical, i have people waiting for my work which I cannot finish now) moment?
[22:19] <imanc> Also when it hangs the hard drive indicator shows no activity
[22:19] <dougl> daftykins, worked just as you read... exits clean now - thanks again :)
[22:20] <daftykins> dougl: my pleasure - just be sure to run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure there's nothing else to go on before you try a reboot
[22:20] <Phoenixz> The only possibly relevant thing I can think of is that a few weeks ago I enabled 32 bit packages (I have 64 bit install), which I remember was required for something I needed to install back then.. I don't know if its relevant, but I also do not recall how to disable this.. Does anybody know how to disable 32 bit repo?
[22:21] <PaRaD0xx> darn, now the CLI isn't even workign again
[22:21] <PaRaD0xx> hmm
[22:21] <PaRaD0xx> only have a share with spaces in it daftykins
[22:21] <PaRaD0xx> I get nt status unsuccessful
[22:22] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: make a new one? :) that's very odd for it to change its' mind
[22:24] <imanc> any ideas how I can begin fault finding boot problems?
[22:25] <dougl> daftykins, good call...
[22:25] <ResQue> error: "can not find GRLD in all devices" im using wubildr to boot. i tried coping the files from /ubuntu/winboot.wubildr.* to the root c drive but it will still not boot can anyone help
[22:25] <k1l_> davidfetter_disq: you are searching for the enablement stack?
[22:26] <davidfetter_disq> k1l_, possibly. is this recent news, as in about this week?
[22:27] <k1l_> davidfetter_disq: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[22:27] <k1l_> its the backported kernels from raring and saucy etc
[22:27] <davidfetter_disq> k1l_, thanks :)
[22:30] <PaRaD0xx> daftykins: k..changed the sharename to be one word, no spaces
[22:30] <PaRaD0xx> smbclient //....still gets me "nt_status_unsuccessful" now...grr...it was working before
[22:30] <sikilpaake> once i was able to doubleclick a bash.sh script file in nautilus and run it, now i no longer can. how can i bring back that behaviour?
[22:31] <PaRaD0xx> here on the ubuntu box, I can still it even after the sharename change
[22:31] <quidnunc> Why aren't changes to /etc/hosts reflected in firefox/chrome?
[22:32] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: "dmesg | tail" show anything more useful about that error?
[22:34] <swizgard> still concerning cups. now that i've stopped it, i changed the /etc/cups/printers.conf, but after restarting cups the old settings persist.
[22:34] <PaRaD0xx> o wait...I may have done something stupid
[22:34] <PaRaD0xx> may have accidently connected to the wrong wifi
[22:34] <PaRaD0xx> lemme see
[22:35] <PaRaD0xx> ah ha!
[22:35] <PaRaD0xx> I feel silly
[22:35] <PaRaD0xx> thanks tho ;)
[22:37] <PaRaD0xx> I guess when I rebooted some reason it connected to a different wifi
[22:38] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: XD
[22:38] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: all working now?
[22:39] <PaRaD0xx> yeah
[22:39] <PaRaD0xx> <---feels like an idiot
[22:39] <PaRaD0xx> sorry bout that
[22:40] <PaRaD0xx> didn't have that issue on the desktop cuz it's wired
[22:40] <imanc> is there an easy way to record all packages that were installed via apt-get so that i can quickly get a similar configuration on a freshly installed os?
[22:40] <PaRaD0xx> thanks for the help still th
[22:40] <PaRaD0xx> tho
[22:40] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: no worries - we all get surprises. glad that missing package / share name edit fixed it :D
[22:42] <xDiEZx> Приятной ночи. Кто может помочь с навтройкой Armitage ?> отзовитесь.
[22:42] <Jebus> I was wondering how to uninstall google chrome
[22:42] <funky> hmm Jebus delete it asap
[22:42] <k1l_> !ru | xDiEZx
[22:43] <Jebus> how
[22:43] <funky> Jebus apt-get uninstall
[22:43] <Jebus> thank you
[22:43] <funky> np
[22:44] <itanshi> hello, I've been researching ubuntu server and am interested in what features it has, simply if ftp access, nameserver, and lamp are all preinstalled. I'd assume they are, but assuming i snot wise
[22:44] <crass> anyone have problems using keepassx on saucy?
[22:45] <crass> I've just upgraded, but everytime I open a db the app goes fullscreen
[22:45] <Jebus> it says it cant find it
[22:45] <CormacMcFionn> itanshi I have server installed, and thoes options you can install but not on default
[22:45] <itanshi> ok
[22:45] <CormacMcFionn> for me it works as a file server / jabber server atm
[22:46] <itanshi> i've been trying to add them too a basic ubuntu build, but its not been easy. I was thinking a preconfigured build like tthe server edition would save me headaches
[22:46] <funky> Jebus u got to specify right package name
[22:46] <funky> for it to find it
[22:46] <CormacMcFionn> tasksel is a big help
[22:46] <anon12> adb devices is returning : no permissions on an android phone connected by usb. articles online claim udev is not able to recognize the permissions. I can get info by using udevadm but, creating a file in /etc/udev/rules.d does not change the permissions as it should. What is stopping the permissions from being applied?
[22:47] <CormacMcFionn> server is a striped down Ubuntu with optimized kernal, its not suposed to be used as a desktop replacement
[22:48] <CormacMcFionn> you literly boot to a prompt with no Gui, and build from there
[22:48] <itanshi> sounds a bit past my skill level. i could dual boot my desktop tho
[22:49] <CormacMcFionn> itanshi: what is it your looking to do (with what hardware)
[22:49] <xDiEZx> anyone know's how to configure Armitage?
[22:50] <itanshi> I'd like to run wordpress on my local machine. I dont get autoupdates without ftp access. Not sure why getting ftp setup on my local machine has been a headache
[22:50] <itanshi> i've 12.10 on modest hardware. 2gig ram, 80gig ssd, .9 ghz intel, integrated graphics
[22:50] <CormacMcFionn> Runing a webserver on your desktop (Doesnt know much about wordpress other than it runs on a web server)
[22:51] <itanshi> i have lamp setup, runs fine
[22:51] <itanshi> just no ftp
[22:51] <anon12> itanshi, have you tried setting up ftp from vsftpd?
[22:51] <CormacMcFionn> I havent set up ftp, or secure ftp yet.
[22:51] <itanshi> couple times yes
[22:52] <itanshi> seems they changed their code between 12.04 and 12.10
[22:52] <itanshi> instructions are unclear
[22:52] <anon12> itanshi, did you upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10, or was the computer installed starting at 12.10?
[22:52] <itanshi> upgrade
[22:53] <itanshi> i may do a reformat to 13.10 sometime this year
[22:53] <anon12> itanshi, upgrading is bad luck
[22:53] <itanshi> so, you'd reccomend to go forward with reformat to latest
[22:54] <CormacMcFionn> Definitely a roll of the dice :)
[22:54] <itanshi> i've avoided the 13.04 kernel, heard about hangups on install
[22:54] <anon12> I recommend maintaining your personal files and settings separate so you can back them up and do fresh installs when upgrading
[22:55] <itanshi> i can backup fine
[22:55]  * CormacMcFionn agrees with anon12, lost my #2 drive, stuck with a one HD system and USB drives
[22:56] <itanshi> hmm so partition the root user separate from the rest
[22:56] <anon12> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade always mangles my hdd
[22:56] <anon12> itanshi, yep
[22:56] <CormacMcFionn> the last one went fine, but one before borked my screen
[22:57] <itanshi> well thanks for the support. Anecdotaly, I've royaly messed up an old build with an nvidia driver
[22:57] <itanshi> just retired the tower, got a nice one
[22:58] <anon12> itanshi, I managed to install a nvidia driver on an ATI desktop system by ssh from the desktop out to another computer before
[22:58] <itanshi> cool
[22:58] <anon12> it should not had been possible
[22:59] <anon12> the shell seemed to had run the command on both systems
[23:00] <CormacMcFionn> eww
[23:00] <anon12> anyone familiar with setting permissions in udev?
[23:05] <apb1963> what are people here using for groupware?  The problem is not a shortage, but an overabundance to choose from.  Anyone using anything like zimbra, citadel, egroupware or others?
[23:06] <apb1963> For ubuntu 12.04 of course
[23:07] <apb1963> <taps keyboard>  is this thing on?
[23:07] <CormacMcFionn> depends on what you want to do with groupware
[23:08] <apb1963> CormacMcFionn: Everything!
[23:08] <CormacMcFionn> Then I use Ubuntu :P
[23:09] <apb1963> CormacMcFionn: chat, email, videoconferencing, data sharing, etc. etc.  all web based.  Open source, free.
[23:10] <apb1963> citadel seems to have most of it... but I didn't see videoconferencing
[23:10] <CormacMcFionn> gnome-xchat for chat, Gmail for emale, Hangouts for video confranceing, samba for data shareing localy, ubuntu one for across internet :)
[23:10] <apb1963> It needs to all be integrated into one web based interface.
[23:10] <CormacMcFionn> Google then :)
[23:10] <apb1963> And google products aren't opensource
[23:11] <CormacMcFionn> Well if you want free as in no money all under one roof, google is the least evil
[23:11] <itanshi> well you can use squirrel mail and thunderbird
[23:12] <apb1963> Those aren't groupware as far as i know
[23:12] <itanshi> you can use them to access groupware
[23:12] <CormacMcFionn> group ware is kind of an outdated concept these days
[23:12] <itanshi> sorta
[23:13] <apb1963> CormacMcFionn: how so?
[23:13] <itanshi> there's one i'm trying to remmeber that is well liked
[23:13] <apb1963> I use the term because it seems to include most of what I want.
[23:13] <CormacMcFionn> most people solve particular needs with specific programs tailored to fit there needs. Group ware was a marketing ploy bundling programs together
[23:13] <cliff> Hi everyone.
[23:14] <apb1963> Yes, but the bundle is what I seek... all integrated, functioning together with a web based interface.
[23:14] <itanshi> client console then
[23:14] <cliff> I wanted to upgrade from 12.04LTS to a new long term support distro and was wondering if you guys would be able to recommend one.
[23:14] <anon12> apb1963, every google product has a backdoor and way to track you
[23:15] <apb1963> itanshi: I presume you mean a portal that will allow the launching of separate programs
[23:15] <CormacMcFionn> as I said, out dated, busness are so unique these days people have moved away from bundling
[23:15] <itanshi> amazon has one coming out called workstations
[23:15] <apb1963> anon12: There are numerous reasons why I don't like google, that's just one.
[23:15] <itanshi> backdoor is a difficult term to swallow
[23:15] <apb1963> itanshi: Is it open source?
[23:15] <itanshi> its more like all of their traffic is sniffed
[23:15] <xangua> cliff: 12.04vis the cirrent LTS
[23:15] <xangua> current
[23:16] <anon12> apb1963, Google also fails to see the value in true world domination like Microsoft does
[23:16] <CormacMcFionn> all internet traffic is sniffed by someone
[23:16] <itanshi> yeah i've learned to love the b-bomb long time ago
[23:16] <apb1963> anon12: I disagree... but that's a different conversation I really don't want to get into at this time.
[23:16] <anon12> I gotta go see you later
[23:17] <cliff> that's not good.
[23:17] <itanshi> asana was the softwar eiw as thinking of
[23:18] <CormacMcFionn> Thank NSA for that :)
[23:18] <mozybonz> cliff: if im not mistaken 12.04 is still "long term" as far as security updates and such . just not software.
[23:18] <apb1963> OK, let me rephrase the question...  I'm looking more for a BBS type, webcam, chat, forum and file sharing piece of software... all web based.... and opensource/free.
[23:18] <apb1963> Notes, calendars, email included.
[23:18] <skraito> hi is there any ubuntu off topic channel
[23:18] <skraito> :)
[23:18] <apb1963> And by notes I mean sticky notes
[23:19] <CormacMcFionn> Dont know of any single program that does all that
[23:19] <skraito> wow ubuntu really fly in my new laptop
[23:19] <skraito> it boot so fast
[23:19] <skraito> adios to windows
[23:19] <cliff> This is getting trick now. The reason I wanted to install libusbmux2 and it looks like it is not compatible with 12.04LTS
[23:19] <apb1963> I'd be happy if it had plugins
[23:19] <cliff> Can you guys think of a work around?
[23:20] <skraito> btw anyone wanna join our humble coder hacker team ##0x71 ?
[23:20] <apb1963> itanshi: Thanks, I'll take a look at asana... maybe it's the cure
[23:20] <th0r> cliff: download the source and compile it yourself
[23:20] <skraito> no satan church nor hater of Jesus Christ nor 0x81
[23:20] <itanshi> i think sublime is finally compatible with evernote
[23:21] <cliff> i'll give it a try.
[23:21] <cliff> Thanks
[23:23] <apb1963> itanshi: Looks interesting... but it appears  more like a project management type software which while definitely useful.... isn't quite what I had in mind.
[23:23] <itanshi> k
[23:25] <apb1963> express.paltalk.com is a vague, half-hearted attempt at what I want... but it has some of the basics.
[23:27] <skraito> guys what is ide or text editor for c and perl
[23:27] <apb1963> It has the videoconferencing, chat & forums features, email... I think it has the data sharing but not sure.  It lacks the calendar, sticky notes and most of all... I have no idea where to get the source code for it.
[23:27] <skraito> guys what is ide for text editor for c and perl
[23:27] <apb1963> It's probably proprietary.
[23:27] <itanshi> notepad
[23:27] <itanshi> terminal
[23:28] <apb1963> You have to understand... it's going to be used by non-technical users... so it all needs to be simple... and integrated.
[23:28] <itanshi> there's no dedicated one, most will work, sublime and gedit have color coding
[23:28] <itanshi> netbeans will work too
[23:28] <apb1963> ok, well thanks for your suggestions anyway you all. :)
[23:29] <itanshi> yeah i'd have to delve into software comparisons to find more info, apb
[23:29] <bunduru> hello
[23:29] <itanshi> just trying to install the entire developer suite for wordpress on local host atm
[23:29] <apb1963> yeah, I understand
[23:29] <itanshi> ah southpark fan
[23:29] <itanshi> shoudln't you be in line?
[23:30] <itanshi> :D
[23:30] <bunduru> hehe
[23:31] <apb1963> In case anyone is on the same quest....   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_collaborative_software
[23:31] <apb1963> There's buttloads there.  too much.
[23:34] <bunduru> is it possible to tunnel the built in desktop sharing through ssh?
[23:34] <itanshi> pretty sure
[23:35] <bunduru> because security options only ask for a password
[23:36] <bunduru> oh crap my bad
[23:37] <bunduru> found the info... the title mislead me
[23:37] <bunduru> had vnc on it
[23:41] <rodney77> hi, i have a tv tuner card, a Theater 550 Pro and i cant get it to work with ubuntu
[23:42] <rodney77> this says it's not yet supported but i dont know if this is up to date: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI/AMD
[23:43] <rodney77> i tried gatos but it didnt find my card: http://gatos.sourceforge.net/supported_cards.php
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> rodney77, I would try and contact people would actually know if you get no help here, or buy a supported card.
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> who*
[23:47] <minimec> rodney77: Do 'lsmod' in a terminal once. Do you have anything similar like this 'cx2388x' loaded?
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> sort of 3rd party all the way through.
[23:48] <rodney77> minimec, 1sec
[23:49] <rodney77> minimec, no
[23:53] <minimec> rodney77: Older TV cards used the 'bttv' driver; newer once the 'cx88'; some (with hardware encocoder) the 'ittv' driver. Also I found a link that lists it as unsouuprted. Also there is a thread (2006!) on a mailinglist... http://www.spinics.net/lists/vfl/msg28950.html
[23:54] <schultza> anyone else having issues connecting to ppa.launchpad.net for updates?
[23:54] <k1l> schultza: make sure that PPA is fine
[23:55] <minimec> rodney77: I am not very optimistic for that card. On the other hand, it should be easy to find an analog TV card that uses the bttv driver. Just have a look on ebay. They should be rather cheap.
[23:55] <kali_eskrima> Hi does anyone know and help me to guide me trough to network manager removal and changing ssid name?
[23:55] <minimec> schultza: They are struggeling for almost a week now...
[23:55] <schultza> too much activity?
[23:56] <kali_eskrima> tgus would be due the the wireless problem on my 12.04 lte which keeps more not working than working.
[23:56] <minimec> schultza: I think it started with a 'blackout'
[23:56] <rodney77> minimec, thanks for the tip. I guess i'll give up on this card and look for a new one... unless it's worth trying the bttv driver anyway
[23:56] <schultza> and its not just one of my ppa, all of them are not working from that location... before they were working. so im assuming there is either a change or a falt on their end
[23:56] <schultza> ouch. computers and blackouts suck
[23:57] <kali_eskrima> who did the blackout on launchpad? maybe too much watching of the tv series "revolution" :)
[23:58] <shambat> debian
[23:58] <rodney77> this: http://git.linuxtv.org/media_tree.git/blob/HEAD:/Documentation/video4linux/CARDLIST.bttv lists ati tv-wonder. lspci lists this: Multimedia controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Theater 550 PRO PCI [ATI TV Wonder 550] (minimec)
[23:59] <kali_eskrima> arent they under the same umbrella?