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nv_hi! my screen turns off after 10 minutes. i have adjusted power settings and disabled power manager from startup but still, monitor goes into standby after 10mins of idle (AMD Radeon based htpc,xubuntu 13.04 amd64)03:28
nv_any ideas? i found this forum post, but his solution was to enable polykit. my policy kit was never removed from startup03:28
nv_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216603403:29
nv_HD4200 with x.org driver03:31
Haggardnv_: I have similar setup. Let me check my settings.03:33
Haggardnv_: Is this happening while ac connected or just on battery?03:34
nv_this is a laptop that has a battery but no built in monitor. it is always plugged in with battery, video feeds to panasonic HDTV via HDMI and to a second panasonic HDTV via DB1503:35
nv_always plugged into a/c03:38
holsteinyou dont think the bios is kicking the external port off?03:41
nv_it worked fine untill i removed the screen (it broke)03:42
nv_i guess i could try turning off ACPI functions03:42
holsteincould be something sensing something there..03:43
nv_then again it was running 12.x untill i removed the screen so that really means nothing03:43
holsteinnv_: you can load up a live CD for 12.04 and test03:43
nv_good idea03:43
holsteinstill, i would disable anything in the bios for that03:43
xubuntu874Hey guys. Could anyone tell me some of the main differences between XUbuntu and LUbuntu?04:33
Unit193Xfce, LXDE.04:33
xubuntu874And in terms of usability?04:34
ObrienDavesame system, different desktop04:34
ObrienDaveI prefer Xubuntu04:34
xubuntu874Is there much of a difference when it comes to speed and how many resources the OS's use?04:35
ObrienDaveLubuntu is lighter on resources and therefore slightly faster. in most people's opinion04:35
ObrienDaveboth X & L are designed for older, slower 'puters04:36
ubuntu-studioso basically, root 'n system just got into a fight. system won.04:36
xubuntu874Hmm04:36
xubuntu874What would be more suitable for a brand new freaking awesome system running i7 and 16GB RAM. Perhaps I could investigate other linux systems?04:37
ObrienDaveI would suggest Xubuntu. It would be blazing fast using either04:38
ubuntu-studioi set acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, booted and still screen sleeps after mins idle04:38
ubuntu-studio10 minutes*04:39
ObrienDavebios setting maybe?04:39
ubuntu-studiounfortunately bios setup provides no such controls04:40
ObrienDavejust checked my power settings. have everything set 'never'04:42
ubuntu-studioi believe this is because i removed lvds the laptop monitor04:42
ubuntu-studioso im sol04:43
ObrienDaveand screensaver disabled04:43
ubuntu-studioi wounder if i remove the panel controller from the panel and plug it (lvds) back in, it might go back to good behavior. (i have always had bad EDID errors)04:46
ObrienDavethat, I wouldn't know about04:51
ubuntu-studio##hardware says im SOL (except maybe to look into COREBOOT)04:52
ObrienDavestill, way beyond my knowledge of Linux04:53
ubuntu-studioim thinking this would make a better point of sales system. HTPC is out of the question04:53
ubuntu-studiobe better suited as i should say04:54
WizardGood morning.08:14
ObrienDavegreetings08:17
xubuntu369Hi just re installed the latest version of xbuntu on my machine and for some reason the volumn control  aplet on the top bar does not seem to work, its shown but when clicked no option to change volumn - had a google couldnt find anyone with a similar problem08:32
elfyxubuntu369: bug 120820408:33
ubottubug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120820408:33
cfhowlettxubuntu369, tis a bug with 13.10.  volume works but the indicator doesn't show08:33
xubuntu369ahhhh08:33
elfyhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade/360840#36084008:33
xubuntu369ahh great08:34
xubuntu369now when the peskey google youtube d auto opens wont wake up my wife in the room next door !08:34
xubuntu369*ad08:34
ObrienDaveheadphones? ;) that's what keeps my wife asleep ;)08:35
xubuntu369yeah trouble is keep knocking out the lead accidently (very small home office)08:38
xubuntu369but at least the drive to work is not too taxing08:38
xubuntu369right off I go to log off and back again, thanks for the much much apprciated08:40
xubuntu369*help urrgh its too early08:41
snafu_elfy can was talk09:03
snafu_we*09:03
ObrienDaveshe seem to not be here. marked 'away'09:04
cousteaucan I make windows not to pop up unless I explicitly opened them?  this is really annoying09:17
cousteaue.g. I'm typing, a window pops up, I hit space, the window thinks I pressed space on it and assumes I wanted "OK"09:17
ObrienDavelook for 'focus' settings in windows manager09:20
cousteauright now I managed to set it so that popup windows get focus automatically but manually opened windows don't09:20
cousteaunow I just have to make it do the opposite09:20
ObrienDavelook for 'focus' settings in windows manager tweaks09:20
cousteauI already did that, and I managed to set it so that popup windows get focus automatically but manually opened windows don't09:21
cousteauwell, I didn't quite understand the ones from tweaks09:21
ObrienDaveactivate focus stealing prevention, when window raises itself "do nothing"09:22
cousteauI have "activate accidental focus loss prevention" and "follow ICCCM standard dunnowhat"09:22
cousteauObrienDave, I thought "do nothing" was only regarding workspaces09:22
cousteaushould this work as an emulation of an annoying popup window?  `sleep 5 && zenity --info`09:25
ObrienDavethat I would not know09:25
cousteaubecause that doesn't get auto-focus if I disable "auto give focus to new windows" but not if I set "when a window appears by itself, do nothing"09:26
cousteauor in general, `sleep 5 && someprogram`09:28
ObrienDavesorry, CLI stuff is out of my league09:31
cousteauthis could be dangerous; I could accidentally type a password in a popup conversation window or something like that09:32
ObrienDavei suppose you're correct in that assumption. let me see if I can pastebin an image or something like that for you09:33
cousteauwhat I want, in general, is that if a program generates a window, and that program is not related to the focused window, then the popup window shouldn't get focus09:34
cousteau(however, if I explicitly summon that window, e.g. with a keyboard shortcut or a desktop/menu shortcut, it should get focus automatically)09:35
cousteaumaybe my current problem is that the application that was warning me was a panel item, and the panel is always "focused" and ready to open windows09:36
ObrienDavethat is my understanding how it should work. having trouble with ZimageZ. brb09:36
ObrienDavehttp://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-11152013-014340am.php09:44
ObrienDavehttp://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-11152013-014541am.php09:46
ObrienDavethat's how mine are set09:46
cousteaumine too, except that "Raise window when clicking inside" is disabled (I found this quite useful)10:05
cousteaustill, windows can popup while I'm typing; that's extremely annoying10:06
cousteaumaybe it all reduces to "don't give focus automatically to a window when the text input cursor is blinking"10:06
cousteauor "when I'm typing", but that could have problems if I just start typing when a window pops up10:07
cousteau(this could be solved with a delayed focus, maybe)10:08
ObrienDavenot 100% sure on that10:09
cousteauon what?  on how to do it, or on whether it's a good idea?10:09
ObrienDavehow to do it10:11
cousteauyeah, doesn't seem possible to do right now; it would be a feature requesr10:11
cousteauand speaking of ZimageZ, could the screenshot application be changed so that it uses image hosting sites that don't require you to login, such as imagebin or imgur?10:12
cousteauor tinypic, or maybe imageshack10:12
ObrienDavehmm, not sure on that one either. i'll look10:12
cousteauI once wrote (or copied, not sure) a curl-based script to host images in imagebin, and set it as an mtPaint action10:14
cousteau(yeah, pretty sure I just copied it from somewhere)10:14
cousteauI think imagebin would be the way to go; it's a temporary image hosting site, so images uploaded there are volatile.  Also the site is pretty minimalistic.10:15
cousteauand for non-volatile storage, maybe imgur or tinypic would be the way to go10:15
ObrienDavelooking into it. don't remember where I got this screenshot app10:18
xubuntu120hello10:42
xubuntu120I have a question . How to change the input mode on the keyboard10:43
xubuntu120for exemple I would like to change french for russian or otherwise10:45
kreatorrHello! I can't get my mute button to work in Xubuntu 13.10. I have a Thinkpad X20010:54
ObrienDavehardware keyboard button?11:02
cfhowlettmute button might require the linux firmware IIRC11:04
kreatorrObrienDave, yes. The volume control buttons work as intended, but the mute button isn't even registered by X11:04
koegshttp://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Mute_button11:05
koegsthere are many knowledge sources for thinkpads and ubuntu11:05
koegsthat's why i love thinkpads more than macbooks :)11:06
kreatorrkoegs, thank you!11:06
baizonkreatorr: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133091/thinkpad-x200t-volume-mute-button-not-recognised-to-use-as-shurtcut11:07
kreatorrhaha yeah, part of why I got one is because I know they're very compatible with linux :)11:08
kreatorrbaizon, thanks a lot! had no idea about that ppa11:09
snafu_here is optional packages for think pads i know it off topic but here http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html11:21
snafu_There are also some ThinkPad only, optional packages you may need:11:22
snafu_    tp-smapi-dkms - needed for battery charge thresholds and ThinkPad specific status output of tlp-stat;11:22
snafu_    acpi-call-tools - acpi-call is needed for battery charge thresholds on Sandy Bridge and newer models (X220/T420, X230/T430, etc.).11:22
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Organicanarchyhey, got a few questions12:20
Organicanarchyabout wine compatablitiy etc12:20
elfy!ask12:21
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:21
bgardnerOrganicanarchy: It'll be roughly the same answer as you got in #ubuntu - you should really head over to #winehq.12:21
elfyaah - thanks bgardner12:21
Organicanarchybgardner, thanks12:22
snafu_Elfy can we talk12:28
elfysnafu_: see PM12:33
Silass22#14:44
LinuxGoldsuccessfully installed, but couldn't start.15:05
* LinuxGold is running Ubuntu 13.10 server in Virtualbox on iMac machine. have been running console for a while and decided to install xubuntu-desktop, couldn't run.15:06
WizardLinuxGold: define "couldn't run"?15:19
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LinuxGoldcouldn't open module vboxvideo15:27
LinuxGoldwhen running 'startx'15:27
LinuxGoldhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6421788/15:37
WizardMaybe this module isn't installed?15:45
LinuxGoldfiguring out the apt-get package for it15:46
lord4163Hello16:12
bgardnerLinuxGold: Did you install guest additions in the VM?17:24
LinuxGoldgot it fixed -- downgraded to the previous guest additions17:25
roninnnice to find a project to fork from github.com, but then there's is nothing mentined about the license and the author doesn't respond your messages. This code would save lots of work, but no idea how I can use it! :D18:07
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Donnie_Darko21hello folks i installed 13.10 xubuntu i got some problem with the lights on the default they are low i want to be high mine eyes burning me :D where is the brightness20:06
TheSheeplights?20:09
bekksThat will cost extra power ;=20:10
Donnie_Darko21hahaha20:22
Donnie_Darko21man tell me the app called20:22
Donnie_Darko21like on ubuntu20:22
Donnie_Darko21so i can adjust my lights20:23
TheSheepDonnie_Darko21: what lights?20:24
Donnie_Darko21the lights man  :D now are low20:26
Donnie_Darko21i want to make it to be hight20:26
Donnie_Darko21in ubuntu was brightness20:26
Donnie_Darko21now i cantfind it20:26
TheSheepI have no idea what you are talking about, and I'm not your man.20:27
Unit193The laptop keys don't work?20:27
Unit193!info redshift | not quite this. :P20:27
ubottunot quite this. :P: redshift (source: redshift): Adjusts the color temperature of your screen. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7-2ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 51 kB, installed size 355 kB20:27
TheSheepubottu: for screen `xrandr --brightness=0.5` should work20:28
ubottuTheSheep: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:28
TheSheepUnit193: ^^20:29
TheSheepof course with the right --output20:29
Donnie_Darko21lol20:29
Donnie_Darko21i will try later20:29
Donnie_Darko21need to go20:29
Donnie_Darko21ke care20:29
micomhello guys, i have spend one month with kubuntu, its terrible, lucky i get back to xubuntu today, and i love it :)20:45
micomgood job:)20:45
xubuntu882http://askubuntu.com/questions/60601/unwrapping-passphrase-and-inserting-into-the-user-session-keyring-failed21:00
xubuntu882help me with this21:00
Mitizarohey there guys!! :)23:35
Mitizarodoes some of you know how i can add the XUBUNTU OS  to the GRUB menu?23:36
Kaapahey guys23:38
Kaapaafter today's updates and reboot, my xubuntu got all screwed up23:38
KaapaI can't even describe what happened... seems like the mouse only clicks on part of the screen, the window placements and behaviour are weird23:39
Kaapadon't quite even know where to start debugging this23:39
brainwashKaapa: how about creating a new user to verify this strange behavior?23:48
Kaapaa new user works correctly23:49
KaapaI seemed to have got a corrupted entry in .cache23:50
Kaapaprobably related to switching from external displays to laptop only23:50
Kaapanow it's going to be a PITA to find out the problem :(23:50
KaapaI don't get it23:54
Kaapanow it's even starting the ubuntu bar on the left23:54
KaapaI didn't even have that before23:54
brainwashtry to delete the xfce related stuff in .cache23:57

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