[03:28] <nv_> hi! my screen turns off after 10 minutes. i have adjusted power settings and disabled power manager from startup but still, monitor goes into standby after 10mins of idle (AMD Radeon based htpc,xubuntu 13.04 amd64)
[03:28] <nv_> any ideas? i found this forum post, but his solution was to enable polykit. my policy kit was never removed from startup
[03:29] <nv_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2166034
[03:31] <nv_> HD4200 with x.org driver
[03:33] <Haggard> nv_: I have similar setup. Let me check my settings.
[03:34] <Haggard> nv_: Is this happening while ac connected or just on battery?
[03:35] <nv_> this is a laptop that has a battery but no built in monitor. it is always plugged in with battery, video feeds to panasonic HDTV via HDMI and to a second panasonic HDTV via DB15
[03:38] <nv_> always plugged into a/c
[03:41] <holstein> you dont think the bios is kicking the external port off?
[03:42] <nv_> it worked fine untill i removed the screen (it broke)
[03:42] <nv_> i guess i could try turning off ACPI functions
[03:43] <holstein> could be something sensing something there..
[03:43] <nv_> then again it was running 12.x untill i removed the screen so that really means nothing
[03:43] <holstein> nv_: you can load up a live CD for 12.04 and test
[03:43] <nv_> good idea
[03:43] <holstein> still, i would disable anything in the bios for that
[04:33] <xubuntu874> Hey guys. Could anyone tell me some of the main differences between XUbuntu and LUbuntu?
[04:33] <Unit193> Xfce, LXDE.
[04:34] <xubuntu874> And in terms of usability?
[04:34] <ObrienDave> same system, different desktop
[04:34] <ObrienDave> I prefer Xubuntu
[04:35] <xubuntu874> Is there much of a difference when it comes to speed and how many resources the OS's use?
[04:35] <ObrienDave> Lubuntu is lighter on resources and therefore slightly faster. in most people's opinion
[04:36] <ObrienDave> both X & L are designed for older, slower 'puters
[04:36] <ubuntu-studio> so basically, root 'n system just got into a fight. system won.
[04:36] <xubuntu874> Hmm
[04:37] <xubuntu874> What would be more suitable for a brand new freaking awesome system running i7 and 16GB RAM. Perhaps I could investigate other linux systems?
[04:38] <ObrienDave> I would suggest Xubuntu. It would be blazing fast using either
[04:38] <ubuntu-studio> i set acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, booted and still screen sleeps after mins idle
[04:39] <ubuntu-studio> 10 minutes*
[04:39] <ObrienDave> bios setting maybe?
[04:40] <ubuntu-studio> unfortunately bios setup provides no such controls
[04:42] <ObrienDave> just checked my power settings. have everything set 'never'
[04:42] <ubuntu-studio> i believe this is because i removed lvds the laptop monitor
[04:43] <ubuntu-studio> so im sol
[04:43] <ObrienDave> and screensaver disabled
[04:46] <ubuntu-studio> i wounder if i remove the panel controller from the panel and plug it (lvds) back in, it might go back to good behavior. (i have always had bad EDID errors)
[04:51] <ObrienDave> that, I wouldn't know about
[04:52] <ubuntu-studio> ##hardware says im SOL (except maybe to look into COREBOOT)
[04:53] <ObrienDave> still, way beyond my knowledge of Linux
[04:53] <ubuntu-studio> im thinking this would make a better point of sales system. HTPC is out of the question
[04:54] <ubuntu-studio> be better suited as i should say
[08:14] <Wizard> Good morning.
[08:17] <ObrienDave> greetings
[08:32] <xubuntu369> Hi just re installed the latest version of xbuntu on my machine and for some reason the volumn control  aplet on the top bar does not seem to work, its shown but when clicked no option to change volumn - had a google couldnt find anyone with a similar problem
[08:33] <elfy> xubuntu369: bug 1208204
[08:33] <cfhowlett> xubuntu369, tis a bug with 13.10.  volume works but the indicator doesn't show
[08:33] <xubuntu369> ahhhh
[08:33] <elfy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade/360840#360840
[08:34] <xubuntu369> ahh great
[08:34] <xubuntu369> now when the peskey google youtube d auto opens wont wake up my wife in the room next door !
[08:34] <xubuntu369> *ad
[08:35] <ObrienDave> headphones? ;) that's what keeps my wife asleep ;)
[08:38] <xubuntu369> yeah trouble is keep knocking out the lead accidently (very small home office)
[08:38] <xubuntu369> but at least the drive to work is not too taxing
[08:40] <xubuntu369> right off I go to log off and back again, thanks for the much much apprciated
[08:41] <xubuntu369> *help urrgh its too early
[09:03] <snafu_> elfy can was talk
[09:03] <snafu_> we*
[09:04] <ObrienDave> she seem to not be here. marked 'away'
[09:17] <cousteau> can I make windows not to pop up unless I explicitly opened them?  this is really annoying
[09:17] <cousteau> e.g. I'm typing, a window pops up, I hit space, the window thinks I pressed space on it and assumes I wanted "OK"
[09:20] <ObrienDave> look for 'focus' settings in windows manager
[09:20] <cousteau> right now I managed to set it so that popup windows get focus automatically but manually opened windows don't
[09:20] <cousteau> now I just have to make it do the opposite
[09:20] <ObrienDave> look for 'focus' settings in windows manager tweaks
[09:21] <cousteau> I already did that, and I managed to set it so that popup windows get focus automatically but manually opened windows don't
[09:21] <cousteau> well, I didn't quite understand the ones from tweaks
[09:22] <ObrienDave> activate focus stealing prevention, when window raises itself "do nothing"
[09:22] <cousteau> I have "activate accidental focus loss prevention" and "follow ICCCM standard dunnowhat"
[09:22] <cousteau> ObrienDave, I thought "do nothing" was only regarding workspaces
[09:25] <cousteau> should this work as an emulation of an annoying popup window?  `sleep 5 && zenity --info`
[09:25] <ObrienDave> that I would not know
[09:26] <cousteau> because that doesn't get auto-focus if I disable "auto give focus to new windows" but not if I set "when a window appears by itself, do nothing"
[09:28] <cousteau> or in general, `sleep 5 && someprogram`
[09:31] <ObrienDave> sorry, CLI stuff is out of my league
[09:32] <cousteau> this could be dangerous; I could accidentally type a password in a popup conversation window or something like that
[09:33] <ObrienDave> i suppose you're correct in that assumption. let me see if I can pastebin an image or something like that for you
[09:34] <cousteau> what I want, in general, is that if a program generates a window, and that program is not related to the focused window, then the popup window shouldn't get focus
[09:35] <cousteau> (however, if I explicitly summon that window, e.g. with a keyboard shortcut or a desktop/menu shortcut, it should get focus automatically)
[09:36] <cousteau> maybe my current problem is that the application that was warning me was a panel item, and the panel is always "focused" and ready to open windows
[09:36] <ObrienDave> that is my understanding how it should work. having trouble with ZimageZ. brb
[09:44] <ObrienDave> http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-11152013-014340am.php
[09:46] <ObrienDave> http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-11152013-014541am.php
[09:46] <ObrienDave> that's how mine are set
[10:05] <cousteau> mine too, except that "Raise window when clicking inside" is disabled (I found this quite useful)
[10:06] <cousteau> still, windows can popup while I'm typing; that's extremely annoying
[10:06] <cousteau> maybe it all reduces to "don't give focus automatically to a window when the text input cursor is blinking"
[10:07] <cousteau> or "when I'm typing", but that could have problems if I just start typing when a window pops up
[10:08] <cousteau> (this could be solved with a delayed focus, maybe)
[10:09] <ObrienDave> not 100% sure on that
[10:09] <cousteau> on what?  on how to do it, or on whether it's a good idea?
[10:11] <ObrienDave> how to do it
[10:11] <cousteau> yeah, doesn't seem possible to do right now; it would be a feature requesr
[10:12] <cousteau> and speaking of ZimageZ, could the screenshot application be changed so that it uses image hosting sites that don't require you to login, such as imagebin or imgur?
[10:12] <cousteau> or tinypic, or maybe imageshack
[10:12] <ObrienDave> hmm, not sure on that one either. i'll look
[10:14] <cousteau> I once wrote (or copied, not sure) a curl-based script to host images in imagebin, and set it as an mtPaint action
[10:14] <cousteau> (yeah, pretty sure I just copied it from somewhere)
[10:15] <cousteau> I think imagebin would be the way to go; it's a temporary image hosting site, so images uploaded there are volatile.  Also the site is pretty minimalistic.
[10:15] <cousteau> and for non-volatile storage, maybe imgur or tinypic would be the way to go
[10:18] <ObrienDave> looking into it. don't remember where I got this screenshot app
[10:42] <xubuntu120> hello
[10:43] <xubuntu120> I have a question . How to change the input mode on the keyboard
[10:45] <xubuntu120> for exemple I would like to change french for russian or otherwise
[10:54] <kreatorr> Hello! I can't get my mute button to work in Xubuntu 13.10. I have a Thinkpad X200
[11:02] <ObrienDave> hardware keyboard button?
[11:04] <cfhowlett> mute button might require the linux firmware IIRC
[11:04] <kreatorr> ObrienDave, yes. The volume control buttons work as intended, but the mute button isn't even registered by X
[11:05] <koegs> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Mute_button
[11:05] <koegs> there are many knowledge sources for thinkpads and ubuntu
[11:06] <koegs> that's why i love thinkpads more than macbooks :)
[11:06] <kreatorr> koegs, thank you!
[11:07] <baizon> kreatorr: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133091/thinkpad-x200t-volume-mute-button-not-recognised-to-use-as-shurtcut
[11:08] <kreatorr> haha yeah, part of why I got one is because I know they're very compatible with linux :)
[11:09] <kreatorr> baizon, thanks a lot! had no idea about that ppa
[11:21] <snafu_> here is optional packages for think pads i know it off topic but here http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
[11:22] <snafu_> There are also some ThinkPad only, optional packages you may need:
[11:22] <snafu_>     tp-smapi-dkms - needed for battery charge thresholds and ThinkPad specific status output of tlp-stat;
[11:22] <snafu_>     acpi-call-tools - acpi-call is needed for battery charge thresholds on Sandy Bridge and newer models (X220/T420, X230/T430, etc.).
[12:20] <Organicanarchy> hey, got a few questions
[12:20] <Organicanarchy> about wine compatablitiy etc
[12:21] <elfy> !ask
[12:21] <bgardner> Organicanarchy: It'll be roughly the same answer as you got in #ubuntu - you should really head over to #winehq.
[12:21] <elfy> aah - thanks bgardner
[12:22] <Organicanarchy> bgardner, thanks
[12:28] <snafu_> Elfy can we talk
[12:33] <elfy> snafu_: see PM
[14:44] <Silass22> #
[15:05] <LinuxGold> successfully installed, but couldn't start.
[15:06]  * LinuxGold is running Ubuntu 13.10 server in Virtualbox on iMac machine.  have been running console for a while and decided to install xubuntu-desktop, couldn't run.
[15:19] <Wizard> LinuxGold: define "couldn't run"?
[15:27] <LinuxGold> couldn't open module vboxvideo
[15:27] <LinuxGold> when running 'startx'
[15:37] <LinuxGold> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6421788/
[15:45] <Wizard> Maybe this module isn't installed?
[15:46] <LinuxGold> figuring out the apt-get package for it
[16:12] <lord4163> Hello
[17:24] <bgardner> LinuxGold: Did you install guest additions in the VM?
[17:25] <LinuxGold> got it fixed -- downgraded to the previous guest additions
[18:07] <roninn> nice to find a project to fork from github.com, but then there's is nothing mentined about the license and the author doesn't respond your messages. This code would save lots of work, but no idea how I can use it! :D
[20:06] <Donnie_Darko21> hello folks i installed 13.10 xubuntu i got some problem with the lights on the default they are low i want to be high mine eyes burning me :D where is the brightness
[20:09] <TheSheep> lights?
[20:10] <bekks> That will cost extra power ;=
[20:22] <Donnie_Darko21> hahaha
[20:22] <Donnie_Darko21> man tell me the app called
[20:22] <Donnie_Darko21> like on ubuntu
[20:23] <Donnie_Darko21> so i can adjust my lights
[20:24] <TheSheep> Donnie_Darko21: what lights?
[20:26] <Donnie_Darko21> the lights man  :D now are low
[20:26] <Donnie_Darko21> i want to make it to be hight
[20:26] <Donnie_Darko21> in ubuntu was brightness
[20:26] <Donnie_Darko21> now i cantfind it
[20:27] <TheSheep> I have no idea what you are talking about, and I'm not your man.
[20:27] <Unit193> The laptop keys don't work?
[20:27] <Unit193> !info redshift | not quite this. :P
[20:28] <TheSheep> ubottu: for screen `xrandr --brightness=0.5` should work
[20:29] <TheSheep> Unit193: ^^
[20:29] <TheSheep> of course with the right --output
[20:29] <Donnie_Darko21> lol
[20:29] <Donnie_Darko21> i will try later
[20:29] <Donnie_Darko21> need to go
[20:29] <Donnie_Darko21> ke care
[20:45] <micom> hello guys, i have spend one month with kubuntu, its terrible, lucky i get back to xubuntu today, and i love it :)
[20:45] <micom> good job:)
[21:00] <xubuntu882> http://askubuntu.com/questions/60601/unwrapping-passphrase-and-inserting-into-the-user-session-keyring-failed
[21:00] <xubuntu882> help me with this
[23:35] <Mitizaro> hey there guys!! :)
[23:36] <Mitizaro> does some of you know how i can add the XUBUNTU OS  to the GRUB menu?
[23:38] <Kaapa> hey guys
[23:38] <Kaapa> after today's updates and reboot, my xubuntu got all screwed up
[23:39] <Kaapa> I can't even describe what happened... seems like the mouse only clicks on part of the screen, the window placements and behaviour are weird
[23:39] <Kaapa> don't quite even know where to start debugging this
[23:48] <brainwash> Kaapa: how about creating a new user to verify this strange behavior?
[23:49] <Kaapa> a new user works correctly
[23:50] <Kaapa> I seemed to have got a corrupted entry in .cache
[23:50] <Kaapa> probably related to switching from external displays to laptop only
[23:50] <Kaapa> now it's going to be a PITA to find out the problem :(
[23:54] <Kaapa> I don't get it
[23:54] <Kaapa> now it's even starting the ubuntu bar on the left
[23:54] <Kaapa> I didn't even have that before
[23:57] <brainwash> try to delete the xfce related stuff in .cache