[02:19] <Nixilus> yar, Is this channel for general chat?
[02:20] <Nixilus> or reserved
[02:20] <sary> Hallo
[02:20] <Nixilus> yar
[02:21] <sary> when upgrading in raring do i need to comment out the raring-backports
[02:21] <Nixilus> is this channel support? or are you just asking? (dont know if im in wrong channel)
[02:22] <bazhang> support of 14.04
[02:22] <sary> it is, but it seems raing has been release so off to #ubuntu.
[02:23] <sary> right, thanks
[02:23] <Nixilus> ah my bad. thanks.
[02:30] <inash> hi there. am using saucy salamander, upgraded from raring. upon upgrade, everything works ok, except when running libreoffice & firefox, it shows ugly default gtk theme. on running " gnome-settings-daemon" on console, received message "(gnome-settings-daemon:15259): Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'gnome-settings-daemon' received an X Window System error." any suggestion how to fix this?
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> inash, You were correct to be at #ubuntu
[02:33] <inash> wilee-nilee : is this some kind of joke =.='
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> inash, No, this is the development Chanel, saucy has been released, if you look at the direct to here and my response to that person on #ubuntu it will make sense.
[02:38] <inash> ok then
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> inash, It's all in the channel header as well.
[02:40] <inash> yes I understand. apparently, nobody is giving a clue. on both side
[05:33] <shadows> hi, daily inst image boots installs and then black screen with "_" cursor blinking ;  can change to VT2 and login from text though....  Mobile 4 Intel Graphics
[05:34] <shadows> besides it being likely to be broken, I am confused how to troubleshoot this;  there is no xorg.conf, and then also should I go about making one to try and diagnose? is there a better "Ubuntu way" ?
[08:44] <kotrcka> tajm ty vejk äp
[08:44] <kotrcka> sorry, wrong # :-)
[11:16] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[18:15] <lord4163> Hello
[18:15] <lord4163> Where do I find the server edition of Thrusty Tahr?
[18:17] <pfifo> lord4163: its not available yet, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[18:19] <lord4163> pfifo: Damn, what version of php does 13.10 include?
[18:20] <pfifo> !info php5 saucy
[18:20] <pfifo> 5.5.3+dfsg-1ubuntu2
[18:21] <lord4163> Lol you guys have these bots answering any question :P
[18:32] <elfy> lord4163: not any question - just those where it's easier :)
[18:32] <elfy> not everything has a factoid
[18:33] <pfifo> true, but its eaaier to make a list of stuff we dont have factoids for
[18:33] <IdleOne> the !info command isn't a factoid
[18:33] <elfy> thanks
[18:33] <IdleOne> if you don't give it a package name the bot has no idea what you want
[18:34] <elfy> IdleOne: what is it then? never really taken much notice of the !'s to be honest
[18:34] <IdleOne> well !info is a "service"
[18:34] <elfy> though I do know where to find the ubottu stuff if necessary
[18:34] <IdleOne> it gives information on the package
[18:35] <IdleOne> in this case php5
[18:35] <elfy> yep - I can understand that
[20:21] <shadows> on boot, briefly see the (X?) mouse cursor and then it goes back to console with blinking cursor blank screen
[20:21] <shadows> how to go about diagnosing this?
[20:22] <shadows> it's not XFree86 anymore and I don't know the whole flowchart of Ubuntu boot
[20:22] <shadows> what should be loading so that we can log in, what is that, and how to single it out and determine why it failed?
[20:43] <shadows> bug #969489  applies;  if I boot without "quiet splash" then it seems to work fine
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | shadows
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> shadows, You might just need a graphic driver, you are aware 14.04 is a development?
[20:50] <shadows> wilee-nilee: ah, yes, I expect some things not to work
[20:50] <shadows> it's humbling to realize that I don't understand anymore how to find the cause of problems :(
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> cool, try the nomodeset option if it seems appropriate
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> No one person can find all problems if that helps. ;)
[20:52] <shadows> it was intermittent, so sometimes it would boot and no problem, but most often it would just be a blank VT with flashing cursor
[20:53] <shadows> that's frustrating for me because I don't know anymore what the name of things are to go find the log file or try to start something in debug mode :)
[20:54] <shadows> anyway it is my friend's computer so I will be only 50% happy to get it working and not know what went wrong? ha
[20:54] <shadows> wilee, trying nomodeset like you suggested now
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> shadows, I would advise your friend to run a release, a development should be a secondary OS at best.
[20:57] <shadows> thank you
[21:02] <shadows> I think this is still a problem and it would be nice to know what the bug is