[00:02] <orbisvicis> do the packages @ http://old-releases.ubuntu.com ever change?
[00:02] <stgraber> no
[00:02] <orbisvicis> I've just started getting size-mismatch errors
[00:04] <stgraber> the only thing that should happen to old-releases is new series appearing on it as releases go end of support, but besides that, no new files should appear and files on it definitely should never change (same goes for the main archive, anything in /pool that changes content is a bug)
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[00:06] <orbisvicis> hm ok, ill wait a few hours, then recreate the pbuild image
[01:04] <bdmurray> @pilot out
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[03:29] <happyaron> stgraber: thanks for rejecting the wrong version...
[03:30] <stgraber> np
[03:52] <Mapley> This is a question for the devs. How did you guys (and gals) achieve a seamless transition from Plymouth to LightDM without any VT messages leaking through?
[04:08] <tarpman> Mapley: not a dev, but: the lightdm side is here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lightdm-team/lightdm/trunk/view/head:/src/plymouth.c and the plymouth side is here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~plymouth-dev/plymouth/trunk/view/head:/src/plugins/renderers/drm/plugin.c
[04:09] <Mapley> Hmm, thanks, I'll check them out.
[04:09] <tarpman> Mapley: AIUI, plymouth calls drmDropMaster leaving the last frame drawn on the VT, X takes over and starts drawing right away, and lightdm tells plymouth to quit once it's started
[07:23] <arun> Hello   guys
[07:23] <arun> I wanted a dev or maintainer to talk to ,. please anyone online
[07:23] <arun> please help me !!!!
[07:32] <Noskcaj> arun, talk
[07:32] <Noskcaj> people are always online, but may take some time to respond
[07:32] <arun> Noskcaj: I wanted to have a new language get added in the system
[07:33] <Noskcaj> !support
[07:33] <ubottu> The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Please be aware that this channel is for development only.
[07:33] <Noskcaj> Assuming the language exists for ubuntu
[07:35] <arun> Noskcaj: no, its not enlisted in Ubuntu
[07:35] <arun> Noskcaj: Its  a language from Nepal ...
[07:36] <Noskcaj> What's the language called?
[07:38] <arun> its name is Chitwania Tharu with code :- "the"
[07:39] <arun> Noskcaj: its listed in http://www-01.sil.org/ISO639-3/documentation.asp?id=the
[07:49] <arun> Noskcaj: hello, are u there  ??
[08:01] <Noskcaj> arun, yeah. I went to get dinner
[08:05] <Noskcaj> arun, join #ubuntu-translators or send an email at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators/+contactuser
[08:06] <Noskcaj> They will know what to do
[08:06] <arun> Noskcaj: oh ok; and does it need the locale to get in the glibc?
[08:07] <Noskcaj> arun, It was added very recently to glibc
[08:07] <Noskcaj> http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=HEAD
[08:07] <arun> Noskcaj: yes
[08:07] <Noskcaj> never mind, that was you
[08:07] <arun> Noskcaj: of course yes
[08:07] <Noskcaj> how many people actually use the language?
[08:08] <arun> Noskcaj: so , did I do correctly , I mean shall I had to give it to glibc or its unneccessary??
[08:08] <arun> around 1-2 Lakhs
[08:09] <Noskcaj> i don't really know. I don't do much translation. The email i linked above is where to ask
[08:09] <arun> Noskcaj: ok brother
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[16:01] <psusi> pitti, why does pm-suspend run pm-powersave to disable power saving on suspend, and then re-enable it on resume?
[19:43] <Noskcaj> Is it possible to fix haskell:depends so it stops wanting specific versions of other haskell stuff? It's causing many FTBFSes
[20:04] <psusi> is there a way to look up argv[0] outside of main?
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[23:36] <xnox> Noskcaj: no, haskell essentially generates new abi on small changes and everything is "kind of statically linked". That's why we have permament transitions tracker for haskell and ocaml both in debian and ubuntu
[23:37] <xnox> Noskcaj: you can figure out what's next to build by looking at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/ghc.html
[23:37] <xnox> and http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/ocaml.html
[23:37] <xnox> Noskcaj: it's only about ~20 dependency levels, and often a FTBFS fix on one packages for one arch can cause cascade of rebuilds further down... =(
[23:38] <Laney> you can fix it by fixing the compiler to not do that
[23:39] <xnox> Laney: but then your uploads count will drop =)
[23:39] <Laney> heh
[23:39]  * Noskcaj thinks we will pretend haskell doesn't exist and be happy with that
[23:39] <Laney> I haven't done much on that in a while actually
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