[00:00] <minimec> rodney77: ok. so try to 'sudo modprobe bttv' in a terminal, and if you are successful, add it to /etc/modules. It might be, that you have to add some driver options in /etc/modprobe.d/somefileyoucreate
[00:00] <kali_eskrima> Hi does anyone know and help me to guide me trough to network manager removal and changing ssid name? tgus would be due the the wireless problem on my 12.04 lte which keeps more not working than working.
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> kali_eskrima, can you show us the put put of. lsb_release -a
[00:01] <shagelito> greetings !
[00:02] <solars> hey, can anyone tell me where in the kernel I can find this driver: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v3.12/drivers/misc/lis3lv02d/Kconfig to enable it?
[00:02] <MonkeyDust> kali_eskrima  http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/03/disable-network-manager-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/   <-- 11.10 hope it's still useful
[00:02] <rodney77> minimec, i ran the command and there was no output. it just took me to a new line with a new command prompt. does this mean it was successful?
[00:03] <user2> i am getting the erro4 "can not find GRLD on all devices" i have tried uninstall wubildr and coping the the wubildr.* files from ubuntu/winboot to my root c drive but i am still getting this issue could some please point me in the right direction or to some documantion thank you
[00:03] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee oh hi, yes hold on a sec,. the user hitsujiTMO actualy told me how to do it, and i saved it on my pc. i actualy saved it with parts missing and i cant do it. he said something about creating some folder with specific names and i saved the copy of it will provide the links... thanks
[00:03] <whisky_> Hey,  is it down http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/xorg-edgers/raring/main/base/nvidia-331 ? Or do I have a problem?
[00:03] <kali_eskrima> MonkeyDust thank you will look into it
[00:03] <MonkeyDust> user2  wubi is a windows application, it's not a real installation
[00:04] <minimec> rodney77: That's normal. 'ls /dev/video*' If you were successful, you should have an additional video device. /dev/video0 is often the webcam
[00:04] <minimec> rodney77: But I am rahter pessimistic. I had a bttv device once. They are normally detected out of the box.
[00:04] <user2> MonkeyDust: love the tv show if the name refer to that, any idea what i might be doing wrong here? it was working yesterday
[00:05] <MonkeyDust> user2  no, wubi is obsolote, guess it's no longer maintained
[00:05] <rodney77> minimec, it doesn't look like /dev/video exists at all
[00:05] <MonkeyDust> obsolete*
[00:05] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/6423849/
[00:06] <user2> MonkeyDust: i tried booting the dvd from an external drive, it gets as far as grub, but after i choose install or live cd i just get a black screen. i think it has something to do with UEFI verson one that is build in to the macbook pro firmware, it fails on usb boot as well
[00:06] <user2> MonkeyDust: if i can just get any kind of terminal running i should be able to fix the issue
[00:06] <whisky_> Hey,  is it down http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/xorg-edgers/raring/main/base/nvidia-331 ? Or do I have a problem?
[00:07] <pero> q
[00:07] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee here are the two links i was given.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6392441/
[00:07] <MonkeyDust> user2  is that a mac?
[00:07] <minimec> so. the card is not recognized. Try to edit 'sudo gedit /etc/default/bootlogd' once, and change 'BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=' to yes. then reboot. You will then get a '/var/log/boot' file with all the messages during boot.
[00:07] <pero> exit
[00:07] <minimec> rodney77: see above.
[00:07] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nille and this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/6392446/
[00:08] <user2> MonkeyDust: yes macbook pro 2008 edition, its a laptop
[00:08] <MonkeyDust> user2  wubi on a mac, that's beyond me, maybe someone else can help better
[00:09] <minimec> rodney77: You can then check that boot file, or even 'pastebinit /var/log/boot' (sudo apt-get install pasteinit). Pasteinit gives you a link, that you can post here. We can then check the log file.
[00:09] <user2> user2: no its wubi on windows 8.1, the hardware is a mac book pro though
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> user2, wubi wont run in W8
[00:09] <user2> wilee-nilee: really, what makes you say that?
[00:09] <MonkeyDust> user2  that's even more beyond me :)
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> user2, Hehe because it's a known fact.
[00:10] <user2> wilee-nilee: i installed it and got ubuntu working fine yesterday using wubi on 8.1
[00:10] <kali_eskrima> wille-nilee please keep in mind that im new to linux-ubuntu and i dont know much of things around, apart from the desktop interface. i dont know how to use that good the terminal, or crating executable folders. and so on.... im good with the computers and learning fast, just to the new things im a bit lost. and still learning.. thanks for patience
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> user2, Then you have a magical touch.
[00:11] <MonkeyDust> !mac | user2
[00:11] <user2> wilee-nilee: not really, very little has changed with the bootcode from vista,7 and 8. just a few extra feature added which can all be disabled through UEFI menu, non of which and enabled on the mac book pro anyway
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> kali_eskrima, All I wanted to do was confirm you were actually using the ubuntu release of 12.04, your nick gas kali in it, and many come on not thinking twice on trying to get help on other OS based on ubuntu that are not supported.
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> has*
[00:12] <skraito> hi all
[00:12] <daftykins> haaaai
[00:12] <daftykins> welcome.
[00:12] <user2> wilee-nilee: could you please share any information you have on the reason behind wubi not working on 8.1
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> user2, The boot code is not the whole picture, and I don't follow wubi in general, I support people who use it that are forced to though.
[00:13] <kali_eskrima> oh i see hahah actually has nothing to do with the kali os.. i learned that linux is using kali as os, which is an traditional philippino martial art and its a hindu goddess.... kali goddess. google it :P
[00:13] <MonkeyDust> user2  http://askubuntu.com/questions/168608/how-to-boot-wubi-installed-ubuntu-within-windows-8
[00:14] <user2> MonkeyDust: thank dude, i will have a read through the links now
[00:14] <apb1963> I'm getting a "warbling" on my softphone (sflphone) that seems to be related to either kmix and/or pulseaudio - with the latter being more likely.  Any ideas?  ubuntu 12.04
[00:14] <kali_eskrima> MonkeyDust that help that you gave me will actually help me which im using 12.04 LTE ? because that is for the 11.10 ??
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> user2, I did not say W8.1 but W8, this was towards the start of the actual W8 release I saw this, maybe wubi has been modified I don't know or really care to be honest.
[00:15] <MonkeyDust> user2  tip: wubi is not popular here
[00:15] <kali_eskrima> wille-nilee i didnt use ur name to click on you...... anyway i said oh i see hahah actually has nothing to do with the kali os.. i learned that linux is using kali as os, which is an traditional philippino martial art and its a hindu goddess.... kali goddess. google it :P
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> lol
[00:15] <user2> MonkeyDust: lol ye i can see why, i would much prefer to boot from a dvd/usb but i just get a blank screen after the grub loader on a dvd/usb boot would you happen to know why?
[00:16] <MonkeyDust> user2  try !nomodeset
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> kali_eskrima, I have a long history of studying comparative myth, however this is a OS channel.
[00:16] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee please see above the three (3) links i gave you
[00:17] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee what that means? sorry is that im deceiving with my nickname?
[00:20] <solars> hey, my cpu freq somehow seems to have a lower limit of 1500mhz - although the cpu could go down to 800, but powersave always ends up at 1500 ... can anyone tell me what is limiting this?
[00:20] <user2> MonkeyDust: thanks i think you might be on to something here. i will go check it out
[00:20] <skraito> skraito> btw anyone wanna join our humble coder hacker team ##0x71 ? no satan church nor hater of Jesus Christ nor 0x81
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> skraito, that is spam here.
[00:21] <skraito> wow is amazing 0x81 trying to stop me to get my own team
[00:21] <skraito> :p haha
[00:25] <kali_eskrima> skraito what do you do in your humble coder hacker team?
[00:29] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee you still around?
[00:32] <kali_eskrima> MonkeyDust you didnt answer my question,,, the help that u gave my is for ubuntu 11.10 i use 12.04 lte will it still work exactly the same??
[00:34] <kali_eskrima> does anyone know where to find a list of all ubunut IRC chanels?
[00:35] <minimec> kali_eskrima: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[00:36] <skraito> :p wow
[00:36] <kali_eskrima> minimec thanks
[00:36] <skraito> suddenly 0x81 don't know what they should talk
[00:36] <skraito> and the channel is quiet again fucking actor
[00:36] <skraito> skraito> btw anyone wanna join our humble coder hacker team ##0x71 ? no satan church nor hater of Jesus Christ nor 0x81
[00:37] <kali_eskrima> skrait why you dont say what is it that you humble coder crackers are doing in your team? and stop spamming btw
[00:37] <compdoc> huh?
[00:39] <svenem> Hi can anyone recommend  a contacts manager on steroids?  I need to store basic amd detailed info on about 300 indibiduals. No, I am not a phile, I just need a pupil notes store for my wife
[00:39] <Totalruin98> hello
[00:40] <Totalruin98> hello?
[00:40] <daftykins> hello?
[00:40] <Totalruin98> hi
[00:40] <daftykins> Totalruin98: ask away in detail if you have an issue
[00:41] <Totalruin98> do you know a lightweight desktop for ubuntu 10.04
[00:41] <Totalruin98> i have 256 mb ram and a pentium 4
[00:41] <daftykins> oh wow.
[00:41] <daftykins> yeah that's going to be a challenge, tried lubuntu?
[00:41] <minimec> Totalruin98: e17
[00:41] <Totalruin98> ive tried lxde
[00:42] <Totalruin98> gnome works, but having 2 or more windows = slow performance
[00:42] <Totalruin98> ill try e17
[00:42] <Totalruin98> bye
[00:44] <kali_eskrima> does anyone know and help me to guide me trough to network manager removal and changing ssid name? this would be due the the wireless problem on my 12.04 lte which keeps more not working than working.
[00:48] <kiwi_> hi ... i cant usb-modeswitch my mobile broadband dongle on 12.04 ... for example i tried '/lib/udev/usb_modeswitch --vendor 0x12d1 --product 0x1446 --type option-zerocd' and also others ... but mode wont switch ... according to lsusb .... any idea>
[00:48] <kiwi_> ?
[00:49] <svetlana> what is a 'usb mode'?
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> svetlana, Context?
[00:54] <jmgk> hi svetlana
[00:54] <jmgk> :)
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> svetlana, Ah, your asking about kiwi_'s post, it is a usb wifi that has at least 2 options of use hence usb_modeswitch
[01:00] <yeyeman> how can I change the default behavior of dragging and dropping stuff from firefox to a folder
[01:01] <yeyeman> for example, if I drag a pic to a folder it creates a link
[01:01] <yeyeman> I ofc want it to save the pic instead
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> yeyeman, Yoy would just do a right click and save image as or any of the several options
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> You*
[01:02] <reisio> yeyeman: pretty sure the internet has that answer
[01:03] <yeyeman> wilee-nilee, but if I'm saving pics from a thread with hundreds of images
[01:03] <reisio> wrong tool
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> yeyeman, Not that easy, and dragging does not work.
[01:03] <reisio> yeyeman: get teh downthemall firefox extension
[01:04] <yeyeman> reisio, I don't want to save ALL images, I just want to save lots of them quickly
[01:05] <reisio> yeyeman: dragging and dropping is never going to be quickly
[01:05] <Fudus> So unselect the ones you don't want?
[01:05] <reisio> but downthemall is just its name
[01:05] <reisio> you can pick & choose
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> yeyeman, You find the cats in corsets site and need just some huh. ;)
[01:07] <yeyeman> wilee-nilee, no comments
[01:09] <Fudus> Firefox's Australis was bumped another version, poor Mozilla having issues :P
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> Fudus, Now that's a glass half empty projection. ;)
[01:11] <Sakinim> hi
[01:12] <daftykins> hello
[01:13] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: <OT> if one takes the air into account, the glass is always full ;)
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> yeah
[01:15] <uncle_ben> does anyone know why some xscreensavers use root window correctly  and some use the generic image even though it's set to use the root window?  same graphics card...why does it "sometimes" work?
[01:16] <k1ng> can anyone help me with 7zip?
[01:16] <daftykins> k1ng: you'd need to ask a question in full for someone to know if they can help
[01:16] <Fudus> uncle_ben: because it is x
[01:16] <k1ng> i want 7za to overwrite all files without asking
[01:16] <uncle_ben> that's your best explanation?
[01:17] <Fudus> and that debian/ubuntu is running a year old version so bugs are to be expected
[01:17] <sheldonw> If I have modified a kernel driver that isn't built as a module in the current kernel, is there a way to re-compile it as a module without recompiling the whole kernel?
[01:17] <Rayhai> Hey, I need some help
[01:17] <daftykins> Rayhai: ask
[01:17] <Fudus> 5.15 v 5.23
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> Rayhai, Do we guess or are you gonna tell us?
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> I guess graphic issues
[01:18] <Rayhai> I'm running Ubuntu 13.10 with Cinnamon 2.0. I just tried installing a nvidia driver (v331.20), but it broke something in my computer, and now my desktop enviroment is completely crashed.
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> bingo
[01:19] <uncle_ben> Fudus, what's weird is that it worked correctly every time with my intel integrated graphics, but when i put in an nvidia card and switched over, xscreensaver used the root window "sometimes"
[01:19] <Fudus> apt-get remove nvidia*, reboot
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> Rayhai, this the cinnamon ppa or the ubuntu repos?
[01:19] <Fudus> ah Nvidia, that would be it ;)
[01:20] <Rayhai> I think it's the cinnamon ppa. Not entirely sure. Completely new to Linux in general.
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> Rayhai, I believe cinnamon is a bit rough around the edges in  13.10.
[01:20] <Fudus> Rayhai: apt-get remove nvidia* then reboot, it'll go back to os
[01:20] <Fudus> then you can try the different types in software-properties
[01:20] <Rayhai> I'll go try removing Nvidia. Although for some reason, I can only run the TTY terminal :/
[01:20] <uncle_ben> Fudus, i know...everyone pisses on nvidia and linux support...but how come steam is using nvidia for their steambox if it's so linux-unfriendly?  do they know something we don't?
[01:21] <Rayhai> Alright, I'll be back with results.
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> wonderful description that gets a noble prize uncle_ben
[01:21] <uncle_ben> ha
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> so erudite
[01:23] <reisio> noble prizes rule
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> I got 3 for  not swearing and giving sick images on freenode
[01:25] <shagelit1> Greetings !
[01:25] <Rayhai> Okay. Thanks! My desktop environment is back.
[01:26] <Rayhai> But now, how do I run programs with my graphics card?
[01:26] <shagelit1> anyone can confirm that i wont be able to get GNUparted threw apt-get ?
[01:27] <Fudus> Here's a newer version of xscreensaver, maybe that'll fix it: https://launchpad.net/~tormodvolden/+archive/ppa/+build/5127350
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> !find GNUparted
[01:27] <Nach0z> um
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> shagelit1, Ubuntu Release?
[01:27] <Nach0z> wilee-nilee: try gparted?
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> Nach0z, Try, I always use it. ;)
[01:27] <shagelit1> well... That's my first attempt to run debian. Even if i experience some big troubles with the GRub2, can you tell me what means !find ?
[01:28] <shagelit1> Im on Debain !
[01:28] <Nach0z> wilee-nilee: no I meant I thought you were trying to find the name of gparted or something
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> shagelit1, Try #debian
[01:28] <uncle_ben> Fudus, thanks
[01:28] <shagelit1> thanks !
[01:28] <Rayhai> Hey, if I want to play a game through steam, how to I make sure my graphics card is enabled?
[01:28] <Fudus> http://packages.debian.org/stable/gparted
[01:28] <Fudus> it exists
[01:29] <Fudus> so apt-get install gparted :P
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> Nach0z, The other user was asking about GNUparted, never heard of it just wondering.
[01:30] <Fudus> r software-properties-gtk additional drivers, pick one
[01:30] <bekks> "GNU parted" is actually "parted" on Ubuntu and Debian.
[01:30] <Nach0z> ah huh
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> That's what I suspected, part of the voodoo partitioner group. ;)
[01:31] <Nach0z> yeah I figured you either meant gparted or just parted. people call it GNU parted for some reason
[01:31] <adamu> Hello
[01:31] <shagelit1> Well thank you (sincerly) for your help. But i checked threw apt-cache search. I found that Gparted. That means its on my debian, right ?
[01:32] <Rayhai> Wait, huh? @Fudus - Do I just put "r software-properties-gtk additional drivers" in my terminal?
[01:32] <uncle_ben> Rayhai, i'm not sure if this applies to your situation, but if you want to try the nvidia driver again...append the boot line with "nomodeset" in grub and see what happens
[01:32] <bekks> Nach0z: It is "GNU parted", since it is the GNU implementation of a PARtition EDitor :) Its official name is "GNU parted".
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> shagelit1, Probably, but this is ubuntu support is all.
[01:32] <Fudus> i mean, go to  software-properties-gtk click additional drivers
[01:32] <shagelit1> okok thks again !
[01:32] <Fudus> pick one of those
[01:32] <shagelit1> see ya
[01:33] <Rayhai> At additional drivers, nothing comes up.
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> been awhile since I ran debian, so boring no updates, never breaks
[01:33] <adamu> This is what I think of Nvidia http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/wp-content/uploads//2012/06/Screen-shot-2012-06-18-at-10.32.45-AM.png
[01:34] <Rayhai> LOL! Yeah, but this is my one and only crap-tastic laptop that comes with an even crappier GeForece GT 630M
[01:35] <Rayhai> So when I look at my additional Drivers. It shows me "No additional drivers are in use" and "No proprietary drivers are in use"
[01:36] <uncle_ben> adamu, http://sas.guidespot.com/bundles/guides_uf/assets/widget_afSvvmoFrl6PgZoATEAput.jpg
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> Rayhai, Did you reboot after that removal?
[01:36] <deveras> hi guys, where do i copy status-header.ssi file to under ubuntu? trying to get popups for pnp4nagios
[01:36] <Rayhai> Yes I did.
[01:36] <Fudus> The last one you tried was from Nvidia's website directly?
[01:36] <Voziv> What's a good gmail notifier that can do multiple accounts? (running kde if it matters)
[01:37] <Rayhai> Erm no. I'll go find it...
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> Rayhai, can you run lspci and identify the graphic hardware that is eally helpful here.
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> really*
[01:38] <Rayhai> Okay. Incomming long message
[01:38] <Rayhai> l00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller (rev 09) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller (rev 04) 00:16.0 Communication co
[01:38] <Rayhai> Ohhhh
[01:38] <Rayhai> I cant copy paste it all
[01:38] <adamu> Nvidia and their proprietary drivers messing f***ing up kernel land... :/
[01:38] <Rayhai> I'll do this line my line
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> Rayhai, you would find the exact info and only post it.
[01:39] <Ben64> adam_: don't use language like that here
[01:39] <adamu> Rayhai, Have you had any success with Nouveau?
[01:39] <adamu> Ben64, Okay
[01:39] <Fudus> http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/69372
[01:39] <Rayhai> Never tried Nouveau. I've tried bumblebee, but It completely broke my system. Had to start from scratch
[01:39] <Ben64> Rayhai: looks like your problem is you have a dual gpu system, what you need is bumblebee or something like it
[01:40] <Fudus> GeForce GT 630M,
[01:40] <aegis> Hi all...  Does anyone know of any kind of capability that would allow one server to monitor another remote server and to send an e-mail if it is unable to make contact with the remote server (ie, it crashes or goes down)?
[01:40] <Rayhai> Okay, so this is the driver specific line
[01:40] <Rayhai> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 630M] (rev ff)
[01:40] <adamu> aegis, Try Nagios
[01:40] <aegis> adamu: Thanks...  I'll check it out.
[01:40] <Fudus> Rayhai: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/69372 try that?
[01:40] <Ben64> Fudus: please don't suggest that here
[01:41] <uncle_ben> adamu, too bad that's not true...KMS is f***ing up kernel land...not just nvidia is affected...google will show you
[01:41] <Ben64> Rayhai: you need bumblebee or something like it
[01:41] <Rayhai> I'm downloading now
[01:41] <Fudus> Its the official Nvidia website?
[01:41] <Rayhai> Bumblebee destroyed my system.
[01:41] <Ben64> Rayhai: that link will NOT work, don't do it
[01:41] <bekks> uncle_ben: works fine here. Even without swearing.
[01:42] <uncle_ben> bekks, yeah, it's a crap shoot depending on the hardware you're using, which kind of supports my point
[01:42] <Rayhai> This is what I just tried: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/nvidia-331-20-install-ubuntu-linux-mint/
[01:43] <uncle_ben> nothing like being locked out with a black screen...no alt ctrl f(x) tty access and nothing left to do but unplug and cold reboot
[01:43] <bekks> Rayhai: So you are running Mint?
[01:43] <Rayhai> Ubuntu 13.10 with CInnamon 2.0
[01:43] <Ben64> Rayhai: look here maybe? http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/using-nvidia-graphics-drivers-with.html
[01:44] <cyro> Hi i'm pretty new to sysadmin stuff. I'm trying to setup logrotate.d for a rails app
[01:44] <Rayhai> I'm a little bit afraid of Bumblebee.
[01:44] <cyro> do I just need to put my conf file in /etc/logrotate.d
[01:44] <Ben64> Rayhai: thats not bumblebee, read it first
[01:44] <Fudus> ah nvidia-prime
[01:44] <cyro> or do I also need to register it somehow?
[01:45] <Rayhai> I'll give it a try
[01:46] <adam_> Ben64: huh?
[01:47] <Rayhai> Hey, is there a way to hide the chat notifications when someone joins and leaves? It makes it a little more tedious to read through.
[01:47] <Mayor_Rob_Ford> Rayhai, what irc app are you using?
[01:47] <Rayhai> webchat.freenode
[01:48] <Mayor_Rob_Ford> Rayhai, Its in the prefrences
[01:48] <Mayor_Rob_Ford> chatting-general
[01:48] <Rayhai> Okay, I think that did it.
[01:48] <Rayhai> Thank you.
[01:50] <Mayor_Rob_Ford> Rayhai, That worked, I was thinking xchat, my mistake.
[01:50] <Rayhai> There was something in the settings, I just didn't know where the settings was
[01:52] <Rayhai> Okay, Just finished installing the things here (http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/using-nvidia-graphics-drivers-with.html). So I just reboot and my GPU should work?
[01:55] <Nixilus> yar
[01:55] <reisio>    p
[01:55] <Nixilus> har fiddle de dee
[01:56] <Nixilus> being a pirate is alright to be
[01:56] <Nixilus> do what you want cause a pirate is free
[01:56] <xangua> !ot | Nixilus
[01:56] <Nixilus> o shit, so forums is the chat public
[01:56] <Nixilus> my bad
[01:57] <xangua> !language | Nixilus
[01:57] <Nixilus> sorry
[01:57] <context> anyone know where i can download an ISO. the site, click download, its saying 1+ day
[01:58] <context> and no, im not on a 56K modem ;)
[01:58] <vimes> fds
[01:58] <Mayor_Rob_Ford> context, What ISO?
[01:58] <context> 12.04
[01:58] <pirret> google 12.04 mirrors
[01:58] <pirret> or something
[01:59] <context> thnx
[01:59] <reisio> context: whereabouts are you, geographically?
[01:59] <vimes90> Hello! I am trying to get Lubuntu to auto run a command http://pastebin.no/349c at start up, and I've put it in rc.locale with sudo in front of it, but it refuses to run O.O
[02:00] <pirret> jus ttell him to google mirror site..
[02:00] <pirret> and he can pick the mirror he want
[02:00] <vimes90> it is a command that enables me to use the HDMI on the computer as it is always connected to a Tv (else the HDMI is ...pure overscan)
[02:00] <geoffm> how come locate doesn,t work
[02:00] <Mayor_Rob_Ford> context, No dailies for 12.04.3, is that what you want? here is the ISO though. http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[02:00] <pirret> geoffm: update-db ?
[02:00] <jrib> vimes90: 1) don't use sudo 2) it's "/etc/rc.local" (no 'e') 3) you probably shouldn't use rc.local
[02:00] <pirret> updatedb*
[02:00] <geoffm> still doesnt work
[02:01] <vimes90> no sudo, what should I use?
[02:01] <Rayhai> Okay, big problem... I installed that nvidia optimus thing... now my monitor wont turn on.
[02:01] <context> mayor_rob_ford: found a mirror thats behaving. thnx though
[02:01] <jrib> vimes90: just don't use sudo, you don't need it as /etc/rc.local gets run as root
[02:01] <jrib> vimes90: why don't you use xrandr instead of this command you have here?
[02:01]  * reisio coughs https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[02:01] <Rayhai> Ohhh, I was able to get to the TTY terminal.
[02:01] <vimes90> xrandr refuses to work with my nvidia driver
[02:01]  * Mayor_Rob_Ford hands reisio a tissue
[02:02] <vimes90> and nouveu refuses to work with HDMI so...
[02:02] <jrib> vimes90: rc.local probably won't work for this but you can try (I'm guessing X won't be up when this runs)
[02:02] <Rayhai> Okay, how do I remove this driver?
[02:02] <reisio> Mayor_Rob_Ford: got any elm bark
[02:02] <jrib> vimes90: xrandr works fine here with nvidia (I recommend trying to troubleshoot why it doesn't for you)
[02:03] <Mayor_Rob_Ford> reisio, let me crack the backdoor and take a look. ;)
[02:03] <vimes90> I tried loads of commands, none which did anything at all to my monitor. But I'll try some more
[02:03] <reisio> :p
[02:04] <Rayhai> Hey, anyone? I just installed nvidia optimus, but it wond load anything to my screen, how do I remove it from TTY termial?
[02:04] <Rayhai> won't*
[02:04] <wafflejock> Rayhai: http://askubuntu.com/questions/219942/how-to-uninstall-manually-installed-nvidia-drivers
[02:05] <Rayhai> Okay... now I gotta find which driver it was
[02:05] <vimes90> urg, any clue as to how I put these values http://pastebin.no/349c into xrandr and make it remember them for every boot_
[02:05] <vimes90> ?
[02:07] <deveras> I've been copying this status-header.ssi file around all the nagios folder, restarting the services...  but i don't manage to get popups for pnp4nagios working :(
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> vimes90, I would guess it is in here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[02:08] <Rayhai> I entered this in my terminal : "sudo apt-get install nvidia-319 nvidia-settings-319 nvidia-prime" .so.... My command should be "sudo apt-get NVIDIA-Linux-x86-319.run --uninstall
[02:08] <Rayhai> ?
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> Rayhai, Not sure other than uninstall is not correct
[02:09] <Fudus> The first one should do it
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> !who | fudus
[02:11] <Anon42038> Hello.
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> Anon42038, Howdee partner.
[02:12] <wafflejock> Rayhai: no
[02:12] <Anon42038> Hello.
[02:12] <wafflejock> Rayhai: if you installed using apt-get then you can just use remove or purge where you had install previously
[02:13] <wafflejock> Rayhai: if you installed with a .sh file then you would use the uninstall flag with that script to run the uninstallation
[02:13] <wafflejock> Rayhai: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-319 nvidia-settings-319 nvidia-prime
[02:14] <wafflejock> Rayhai: remove deletes the binraries and such but leaves behind configuration files, purge should get rid of everything from those packages
[02:14] <Charcoalcat> I got a new wireless card a few days ago (this: http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/2012-10-07-edimax-ew-7811un-wireless-usb-150-mbits-802-11n) and it disconnects me from the Internet repeatedly all day. Most of the time I can barely stay on for a couple of minutes. However, this exact card works perfectly fine on the Windows computers in the house, and my mom and sister have identical cards that never have problems on Windows (but also do on my
[02:14] <Charcoalcat> computer). That page says that there's a problem with power-saving mode turning itself on, but I made the text file to turn that off like it said to. Sometimes it won't connect again until I unplug it and plug it back in, and sometimes when I do that, it stops recognizing it and I have to reboot. Also sometimes it will only reconnect when I delete the router password in "edit connections" and re-add it. This is the output of it from iwconfig: http://
[02:14] <Charcoalcat> paste.ubuntu.com/6424172/ What else can I do to troubleshoot?
[02:14] <FloodBot1> Charcoalcat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:14] <wafflejock> Rayhai: no guarantee it resets your X config correctly
[02:15] <Charcoalcat> ... sorry for the long message.
[02:15] <wafflejock> Charcoalcat: np paste would have been better though, ur paste URL got split
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> Charcoalcat, might help. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=+EW-7811UN
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> Charcoalcat, That the exact unit, if not search with it at askubuntu
[02:17] <Charcoalcat> wilee-nilee: Thanks, I'll look at those threads.
[02:19] <Rayhai> "sudo apt-get nvidia-319 nvidia-settings-319 nvidia-prime --uninstall" Doesn't work. it says "--uninstall is not understood"
[02:20] <geoffm> cd ~
[02:20] <geoffm> ls
[02:20] <geoffm> oops wrong window
[02:22] <zykotick9> Rayhai: it's "sudo apt-get remove foo bar"
[02:22] <wafflejock> Rayhai: see my messages above
[02:23] <sary> Hallo
[02:24] <sary> when upgrading in raring do i need to comment out the raring-backports!
[02:25] <Rayhai> @zykotick9 "E: Unable to locate package foo" - @wafflejock I don't know what my exact driver is, so I'm not sure how to remove it.
[02:26] <wafflejock> Rayhai: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[02:26] <wafflejock> Rayhai: will show you packages installed using debian package manager which is what apt is using
[02:26] <wafflejock> Rayhai: if you don't see it there then apt isn't going to be able to uninstall it, in that case you need to find the .sh file you used to install to properly uninstall
[02:27] <Rayhai> I just tried sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[02:27] <Rayhai> It worked
[02:27] <wafflejock> Rayhai: good enough
[02:27] <Rayhai> but now, I still need to find a way to use my GPU
[02:28] <wafflejock> Rayhai: yeah maybe try to get the .sh file from the nvidia site directly instead of using the one in the repos but Your mileage may vary YMMV
[02:28] <Rayhai> 2 Laptops, No wifi, 1 ethernet cable.
[02:28] <Rayhai> This is annoying :/
[02:28] <wafflejock> Rayhai: I imagine... need more ethernet
[02:29] <Anon42038> :3 One Laptop. A backlight that goes out if I put the screen all the way back.
[02:29] <funky> heya
[02:29] <funky> whats /proc is for in ubuntu?
[02:29] <Anon42038> #FirstWorldProblems
[02:29] <inash> hi there. am using saucy salamander, upgraded from raring. upon upgrade, everything works ok, except when running libreoffice & firefox, it shows ugly default gtk theme. on running " gnome-settings-daemon" on console, received message "(gnome-settings-daemon:15259): Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'gnome-settings-daemon' received an X Window System error." any suggestion how to fix this?
[02:29] <wafflejock> heh exactly
[02:29] <Rayhai> #ThirdWorldProblems - I'm in the Philippines.
[02:29] <wafflejock> funky: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/proc.html
[02:29] <sary> inash: for saucy  /j #ubuntu+1
[02:30] <Anon42038> RayHai? Isn't that where the typhoon hit?
[02:30] <Rayhai> I just got some medium winds and some rain. Other places do destroyed.
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> sary, saucy is a release, that is for trusty
[02:30] <Anon42038> Well I'm glad America's got a carrier group out there to help the affected areas.
[02:30] <funky> if i mirror server i can skip it?
[02:31] <funky>    It doesn't contain 'real' files but runtime system information   (e.g. system memory, devices mounted, hardware configuration, etc). For this   reason it can be regarded as a control and information centre for the   kernel
[02:31] <funky> or server restore wont work without proc?
[02:31] <sary> wilee-nilee: , right am getting confused with codename .
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> it happens. ;)
[02:31] <wafflejock> funky: you maybe want to look into rsync and think more selectively about what you backup
[02:31] <wafflejock> funky: alternatively check out dd and copy whole disk or parititon to an image
[02:32] <Rayhai> Okay, I'll be back, switching off this awful windows8 laptop for my beautiful ubuntu. I still need help on getting a driver that works.
[02:32] <Anon42038> Windows -_-
[02:32] <Anon42038> I'm on a full Ubuntu Laptop. :3
[02:33] <wafflejock> My ubuntu has a minor Windows infection in it's virtual box
[02:33] <sary> So is it save to upgrade in raing while the backports repo are enabled!?
[02:33] <funky> wafflejock: I am using jungle disk software, it can copy all but that /proc
[02:34] <funky> I simply wonder if I skip /proc can I restore server without it, yes or no
[02:34] <Rayhai> Okay. Back.
[02:34] <funky> if its like windows /temp then its irrelevant
[02:34] <wafflejock> funky: sorry don't have experience with it but dd does block by block copy of an entire partitition or disk to a file and back, clonezilla is a nice bootable iso that handles setting up network shares and the like before running dd and helps a lot
[02:34] <Jordan_U> funky: Yes, you can (and should) skip /dev/, /proc/, and /sys/ when backing up.
[02:34] <wafflejock> funky: believe it will not matter
[02:34] <funky> cool
[02:35] <funky> Jordan whats in /dev and /sys?
[02:35] <Rayhai> So far, I've tried the official Nvidia driver, nvidia optimus, and bumblebee. None have worked for my GeForce GT630M
[02:35] <Rayhai> What do I try now?
[02:35] <sary> the open source driver!
[02:35] <Anon42038> OPEN SOURCEEEE
[02:36] <Rayhai> Sounds scary and unreliable
[02:36] <Anon42038> I actually believe my Laptop is using all Open source drivers available to it.
[02:36] <wafflejock> funky: if you go up a level from the link I sent you it has more of the file system described http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> sary, This link might give you info that will help in general. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[02:36] <sary> are you sure the bubblebee configu setting are corrct!
[02:36] <Rayhai> Where do I sign up!
[02:36] <bekks> Rayhai: sign up for what?
[02:36] <Rayhai> Open Source drivers
[02:36] <sary> wilee-nilee: i'll check it, thank you
[02:36] <Anon42038> Rayhai: My laptop is using all Open source drivers available. I don't think I'm running any propietary(:
[02:36] <bekks> Rayhai: They are provided by the ubuntu repos.
[02:37] <Rayhai> lol, alright then, where can I find a driver for my GT630M?
[02:37] <bekks> !nvidia > Rayhai
[02:37] <Anon42038> !nvidia > Anon42038
[02:38] <Rayhai> Checking it out now. Thanks!
[02:38] <funky> wafflejock:  so dev got data about partitions
[02:39] <wafflejock> funky: yeah believe devices in general
[02:39] <sary> people just tend to ESC reading, read about how a hybrid graphics work!
[02:39] <Rayhai> Hmmm, what is this nouveau? I've never tried that.
[02:39] <wafflejock> more good stuff here too funky http://askubuntu.com/questions/138547/how-to-understand-the-ubuntu-file-system-layout
[02:39] <sary> its th open source driver
[02:39] <funky> when kernel boots it makes new /proc and /dev right? :D
[02:39] <wafflejock> funky: I believe that's how it works, the exact details are beyond me
[02:40] <wafflejock> funky: fstab tells it where to mount the devices but I suppose the kernel or something earlier on is setting up /dev and the like
[02:40] <bekks> funky: Some file in /dev are persistent.
[02:40] <funky> bekks so better keep dev?
[02:40] <funky> and just dont back up /proc?
[02:41] <bekks> funky: you dont need to backup /dev, /proc, /sys
[02:41] <funky> ok
[02:41] <sary> it's beter to moit out backports then!
[02:41] <sary> s/moit/omit
[02:41] <bekks> funky: and backing up /run is not necessary too.
[02:42] <funky> beeks now jungle disk support said they try to add this info to their missing ubuntu howto :D
[02:42] <bekks> funky: Who or what is "jungle disk support"?
[02:42] <funky> its run by rackspace
[02:43] <bekks> funky: And do we support them in here right now?
[02:43] <funky> :P
[02:43] <funky> bekks sometimes its nice to be humorous
[02:43] <funky> ;)
[02:43] <bekks> funky: Well, they should read basic documents.
[02:43] <bekks> !backup > funky
[02:43] <Rayhai> Well, I'm going to give Bumblebee another shot.
[02:43] <Kryptron_>  !nvidia > Kryptron_
[02:43] <funky> plus rackspace making ubuntu howto helps to popularise it :)
[02:44] <bekks> Rayhai: Do you actually have Optimus?
[02:44] <Rayhai> Is this fine to follow? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[02:44] <Rayhai> Nope
[02:44] <Rayhai> I actually don't know
[02:44] <bekks> Rayhai: Then dont use Optimus or bumblebee.
[02:44] <Rayhai> Sooooo?
[02:44] <bekks> Rayhai: you have to find out first.
[02:44] <bekks> Rayhai: Which hardware do you have, a laptop?
[02:45] <antonio__> hey folks
[02:45] <Rayhai> HP Envy DV-7. w/ GeForce 630M
[02:45] <Rayhai> laptop
[02:45] <antonio__> Having a problem getting a Dell Picture in Picture monitor working on my gf's desktop running 12.10 (might be 12.04)
[02:45] <bekks> Rayhai: pastebin "lspci -k" please.
[02:46] <Rayhai> http://pastebin.com/KqAa72gn
[02:47] <Rayhai> bekks: that it?
[02:47] <Kryptron> !pastebin Kryptron
[02:47] <zykotick9> antonio__: to find out what your running, you can use "lsb_release -a"  good luck with the monitor...
[02:48] <bekks> Rayhai: And did you check to BIOS for a possibility to disable the Intel graphics?
[02:48] <Rayhai> Hmmm. Tryna' think.... I know there was something about diabling Intel Rapid Start.
[02:48] <Charcoalwing> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79818/edimax-ew-7811un-usb-wireless-sees-network-but-fails-to-connect-to-it I followed this person's steps and now I have full bars on the router and I can see some other far away routers, too! So, so far so good.
[02:49] <antonio__> can't zybotick9: monitor doesn't work ;)
[02:49] <zykotick9> antonio__: sorry... duhhh on my part ;)
[02:50] <Rayhai> bekks: Any ideas on what I should do?
[02:50] <bekks> Rayhai: Check your BIOS for disabling the Intel Graphics.
[02:50] <Rayhai> Alright.
[02:52] <doner> I use launchpad and bazaar for development and now I want to reinstall Ubuntu. Do I need to backup the gpg and ssh files?
[02:52] <bekks> doner: yes.
[02:52] <reisio> doner: why do you want to reinstall?
[02:54] <nubietol> good morning.. are there indonesian people here?
[02:54] <reisio> nubietol: probably
[02:55] <Rayhai> bekks: Nope, nothing.
[02:55] <doner> reisio: I wanna install ubuntu gnome .
[02:55] <reisio> doner: you don't have to reinstall for that
[02:55] <reisio> doner: just install gnome-shell, log out, choose it
[02:55] <yottabit> is there a community channel for macs?
[02:55] <reisio> yottabit: /msg alis list *ubunt*mac*
[02:55] <sawyer> I have freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 and my mic wont work, but it worked fine in 13.10.
[02:56] <reisio> so no, there isn't :p
[02:56] <yottabit> i'm wanting to install ubuntu on macbook pro 11,2
[02:56] <bekks> Rayhai: then refer to this article: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[02:56] <doner> reisio: I think maybe they have some differences.
[02:56] <reisio> doner: hrmm?
[02:57] <reisio> yottabit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[02:57] <yottabit> i was thinking i could install ubuntu on the macbook after seeing this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[02:57] <reisio> yottabit: you can indeed
[02:57] <yottabit> then i realized, oh poop, this is mpro 11,2
[02:57] <sawyer_> I freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 and my mic wont work, I tried changing things in pavu control but I cant get it to work, but it worked in 13.10
[02:57] <Anon42038> Yotttabi: Full install Ubuntu?
[02:58] <reisio> sawyer_: why the downgrade?
[02:58] <Rayhai> Once I install it and reboot, how to I run a game off of steam with it?
[02:58] <reisio> yottabit: should still work
[02:58] <doner> reisio: I am not sure, just have a guss....
[02:58] <bekks> Rayhai: the same way as usual.
[02:58] <yottabit> http://askubuntu.com/questions/370583/installing-ubuntu-on-macbook-pro-11-2-11-3
[02:58] <yottabit> aye
[02:58] <reisio> yottabit: basically if the live OS (the install media) boots and functions, it works
[02:58] <yottabit> that doesn't look good
[02:59] <I7_> i think ubuntu 13.10 has alot of bug
[02:59] <reisio> doner: you don't have to reinstall, just install gnome-shell
[02:59] <Rayhai> bekks: just press play anf it will run?
[02:59] <I7_> always showing some sort of error
[02:59] <I7_> i never has problem with 11.10
[02:59] <Anon42038> Yottabi?: Boot from Flash drive or whatever you have Ubuntu burned onto
[02:59] <bekks> Rayhai: I never played steam games - why they do not depend on non-optimus nvidia hardware.
[02:59] <Anon42038> If it works through the flash drive it'll work on the HDD
[03:00] <sawyer_> reisio, Because it more stable and it was my first distro around two years ago, so I like it more.
[03:00] <sawyer_> reisio, It started my hatred for microsoft
[03:00] <reisio> regression
[03:01] <Anon42038> Sawyer: My first distro was Puppy linux , but it only made me question MS.
[03:01] <Anon42038> Sawyer: Ubuntu's what really made me hate MS.
[03:01] <Anon42038> (:
[03:01] <andre> Hi! I installed Ubuntu 13.10 along with Windows 8.1 but GRUB doesn't appear at initialization. Can you help me?
[03:01] <bekks> !grub2 > andre
[03:01] <Rayhai> bekks, well thank you for all your help :D. I'll see how this works oout once I finish installing it.
[03:02] <I7_> i think ubuntu 11.10 is the most stable
[03:02] <andre> ubottu, how I send a private message to you?
[03:02] <Anon42038> Andre. Does your computer have UEFI?
[03:02] <bekks> I7_: 11.10 isnt supported anymore.
[03:02] <doner> reisio: Ok... and just for the question, if i need to remove ubuntu from my computer for a time and reinstall it latter.Should I backup these gpg and ssh files?
[03:02] <reisio> doner: backup whatever you care about
[03:02] <andre> Anon42038. Yes, but it is disabled in the BIOS
[03:02] <reisio> doner: all the important stuff should really be in /home/
[03:02] <Rayhai> I wish things like UEFI and SecureBoot would just diappear.
[03:02] <I7_> bekks, 13.10 has too much bugs
[03:02] <I7_> 13.10 always give error even in vmware
[03:03] <I7_> i never has prolblem in 11.10 or 12.04
[03:03] <Anon42038> Andre: So your computer is running in Legacy mode?
[03:03] <reisio> Rayhai: all in good time
[03:03] <Anon42038> Rayhai: It's microsoft's way of keeping a stranglehold on the OEM'S.
[03:03] <bekks> I7_: That still doesnt make 11.10 being non-end-of-life.
[03:03] <andre> Anon42038. How can I now if my computer is running in Legacy mode?
[03:03] <andre> Anon42038. How can I know if my computer is running in Legacy mode?
[03:03] <Rayhai> Honestly, I feel like it's just making users angry. It's the reason why I'm boycotting all things microsoft.
[03:03] <reisio> what's legacy mode
[03:04] <I7_> bekks, they should test and fix bugs before releasing the release
[03:04] <Anon42038> Legacy mode for UEFI
[03:04] <yottabit> well here goes
[03:04] <doner> reisio:ok,thank u.
[03:04] <bekks> I7_: Do you have an support question for a supported release actually?
[03:04] <sawyer_> reisio, Its what UEFI replaced
[03:04] <Anon42038> As much as I hate to link to it because It's MS..
[03:04] <reisio> sawyer_: what is?
[03:04] <Anon42038> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825112.aspx
[03:04] <sawyer_> reisio, legacy
[03:04] <Anon42038> That'll explain Legacy mode better than I can.
[03:05] <Anon42038> And it'll tell you how to enable it.
[03:05] <reisio> sawyer_: you mean bios?
[03:05] <sawyer_> reisio, Perhaps.
[03:05] <bekks> reisio: sawyer_: BIOS has nothing to do with UEFI secure/legacy mode.
[03:05] <sawyer_> reisio, Yeah, but uefi doesnt like linux
[03:06] <sawyer_> bekks, Well what ever
[03:06] <Anon42038> UEFI Hates linux.
[03:06] <Anon42038> And Linux really hates UEFI.
[03:06] <reisio> oh some computers have uefi and bios?
[03:06] <reisio> and call bios legacy?
[03:06] <bekks> Anon42038: thats just not true.
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> Anon42038, Your comments are not helpful, and just opinions.
[03:07] <I7_> can anyone tell me what are the ubuntu out there.... example, kubuntu, xubuntu....etc
[03:07] <sawyer_> I freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 and my mic wont work, I tried changing things in pavu control but I cant get it to work, but it worked in 13.10
[03:07] <bekks> reisio: There are computers that have BIOS, some have BIOS and UEFI, and some have UEFI only.
[03:07] <bekks> reisio: secure/legacy are UEFI modes.
[03:07] <Anon42038> Ugh what I'm saying is Linux can run on UEFI nicely but some linux users in the community hate UEFI for their own reasons. o.o
[03:08] <xangua> I7_: they are ubuntu
[03:08] <I7_> i want to try one of them
[03:08] <I7_> trying to select the cool one :)
[03:08] <xangua> so do
[03:08] <bekks> !derivatives | I7_
[03:08] <reisio> bekks: what's legacy?
[03:08] <bekks> gna.
[03:09] <bekks> reisio: an UEFI mode allowing you to boot non-trusted installations. Like non-Windows8.
[03:09] <reisio> ah
[03:09] <reisio> legacy, that's some good propaganda :)
[03:09] <Anon42038> Yea
[03:10] <I7_> xangua, how many out there...trying to find the screen shot
[03:10] <xangua> ...
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> I7_, Cool one would be what you think is cool, all can be tries in one install so you can decide.
[03:10] <bekks> !desktops
[03:10] <bekks> I7_: Basically there you go...
[03:11] <I7_> ok thanks
[03:11] <sawyer_> I freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 and my mic wont work, I tried changing things in pavu control but I cant get it to work, but it worked in 13.10
[03:12] <Kryptron> !ubuntu > Kryptron
[03:12] <I7_> bekks, speed wise are the same right no matter what version it is
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> I7_, Some desktops are lighter than others, depending on your hardware may run faster.
[03:16] <Phoenixz> For some reason, (as far as I could see, no reason) my PHP went from fine to segfaults only... I was working, out of the blue, boom.. I traced the problem to either the PDO module, or libapache-mod-php5.. The latter, I'm not sure because I first noticed the segfaults on CLI. I tried reboot, reinstall, but when I tried to purge the packages, I got lots of errors on libapache-mod-php5. Status right now is that I cannot apt-get purge libapache2-mod-
[03:16] <Phoenixz> php5 php5, it errors with "ERROR: Module php5 does not exist!" and then it dies. Anybody here know what I could do besides a complete reinstall which is not really an option for me at this (kinda critical, i have people waiting for my work which I cannot finish now) moment?
[03:16] <Phoenixz> The only possibly relevant thing I can think of is that a few weeks ago I enabled 32 bit packages (I have 64 bit install), which I remember was required for something I needed to install back then.. I don't know if its relevant, but I also do not recall how to disable this.. Does anybody know how to disable 32 bit repo?
[03:17] <Phoenixz> So anybody who might know?
[03:18] <sawyer_> I freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 and my mic wont work, I tried changing things in pavu control but I cant get it to work, but it worked in 13.10
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> !patience | sawyer_
[03:20] <sawyer_> wille-nilee, No offence, but is it so hard to just say have patience?
[03:21] <sawyer_> wilee-nilee, Sorry, but it bugs me all the people with the bot on this channel
[03:22] <Phoenixz> sawyer_: bots are here to help moderate, don't take offence
[03:22] <Phoenixz> sawyer_: that, and from memory, I had a similar problem on my toshiba laptop, 12.04 no mike, 13.10 mike
[03:23] <Phoenixz> Solution for me was nothing really, but the update to 13.10
[03:23] <reisio> probably just the kernel, then
[03:23] <reisio> but obviously it could be the alsa config
[03:23] <reisio> hard to get excited about helping you downgrade
[03:24] <Phoenixz> sawyer_: What reisio says...  Why 12.04, why not stick with what works and is new, specially if the new worked, and the old.. well, doesnt?
[03:27] <reisio> I already asked that question
[03:27] <d0nger> i need some help please. everytime i unsuntall a program, and re install, it remembers the settings i had before i removed it. I use janito to clean up after uninstall so why does it do this?
[03:27] <reisio> didn't get a very good reason, IMO :)
[03:27] <Phoenixz> reisio: Any particular reason why ALSA is still used btw? I might be mistaken, but my kubuntu has like20 audio stacks on top of eachother, all messing with what the previous one did. I have alsa, gstreamer, phonon and pulse IIRC.. Why not just use?
[03:27] <Phoenixz> Why not just use one?
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> d0nger, use purge not remove
[03:27] <reisio> d0nger: your settings are frequently kept in ~/
[03:27] <reisio> d0nger: so you don't lose them
[03:27] <Phoenixz> d0nger: apt-get purge package?
[03:28] <reisio> Phoenixz: alsa is virtually the only choice
[03:28] <reisio> Phoenixz: the rest work on top of it
[03:28] <Phoenixz> d0nger: insteald of apt-get remove.. that is, if you use the command line
[03:28] <Phoenixz> reisio: Well, yeah, got that part but.. Why in all these years has nobody really worked on one good working audio stack that everybody can use?
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> d0nger, App configs are in ~/.configs as well at leat some
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> least*
[03:29] <d0nger> where do i find that folder wilee-nilee
[03:29] <reisio> Phoenixz: because it's already good :)
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> d0nger, open home and do ctrl-h to unhide .configs
[03:30] <reisio> if it weren't good enough, it would be replaced, that's how open source works
[03:31] <Phoenixz> reisio: uurrr.. :) Audio, in the last 10 years, way up to at least 12.10 (I just never used 13.04 because it crashed all over the place) always has been the problem child.. always "suddenly stopped working without explanation", and then I had to mess around on the command line in config files, and alsamixer on command line..  Plus, everybody builds on top of alsa, with other intermediary levels..
[03:31] <d0nger> wilee-nilee,  i dont see kdenlive in the .config folder
[03:31] <d0nger> i used purge command though
[03:31] <reisio> Phoenixz: hasn't been my experience
[03:31] <reisio> but I don't use Ubuntu
[03:31] <kostkon> Phoenixz, nowadays it's pulseaudio on top of alsa. gstreamer and phonon are multimedia frameworks
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> d0nger, Some are there some are not.
[03:31] <reisio> nor have I ever had problems with flash or 64-bit
[03:31] <reisio> these are largely imaginary problems, IMO
[03:32] <Phoenixz> kostkon: yeah, but phonon (from what I have seen here) uses gstreamer with some mix of pulse audio, and that all on top of ALSA, please correct me if I am very wrong..  It all seems very... patched together.. not just one strong "this is it and it works" if you know what I mean.
[03:32] <reisio> Phoenixz: all you actually need is alsa
[03:33] <reisio> the rest is the fault of your particular DE and/or distro
[03:33] <kostkon> Phoenixz, gst and phonon can talk directly to pulse that's true. pulse is the sound server
[03:33] <reisio> or whatever top-level software it is that deps it in
[03:33] <Phoenixz> reisio: flash has always been horrible, but then again, thats adobe.. Cant wait till thats gone :)
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> d0nger, This a ppa install?
[03:33] <reisio> Phoenixz: horrible yes
[03:33] <reisio> just not more horrible than on Windows
[03:34] <d0nger> kdenlive from software center
[03:34] <Phoenixz> reisio: true, true
[03:35] <d0nger> still didn't work. immissing some options it had when i first installed it, now it's missing options
[03:35] <sawyer_> Phoenixz, Because 12.04 works better, exept for this one thing
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> !find kdenlive
[03:36] <Phoenixz> d0nger: missing options does not really sound like a config issue..?
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> !info kdenlive
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> just checking if in the repos the web gives conflicting info for kdenlive
[03:36] <sawyer_> So does some one actually know how to fix it?
[03:37] <Phoenixz> sawyer_: patience :) If somebody knows, they will answer
[03:37] <Nach0z> a/w 36
[03:38] <Nach0z> whoops.
[03:47] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: Does it recognize the microphone but just doesn't pick up sound, or does it not recognize it at all? Does it recognize other microphones?
[03:48] <urgodfather> hello room
[03:49] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: Have you tried anything besides pavu control? http://askubuntu.com/questions/133903/internal-microphone-not-listed-in-sound-settings There are some other ideas on this page.
[03:49] <reisio> 'lo urgod
[03:49] <urgodfather> is there a way that i can install ubuntu, prep it the way i want, then generate an installer so that i won't have to repeat over and over again?
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, Same release?
[03:51] <urgodfather> i was gonna use the lts
[03:52] <urgodfather> but really i plan to use ubuntu as the backbone.
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, There are a number of ways to speed it up, and actual "installer" is well questionable in the definition of.
[03:53] <urgodfather> build from command line up with what i want, tweak it, then pack it into an installable form
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, all you need is that command line really of what you install.
[03:54] <TimR> can anybody tell me why I cant edit SSH port anymore I didhave it on port 26 but it dont work anymore so when I switched it back to port 22 it works
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> sudo apt-get install "put apps list here"
[03:55] <Mapley> How did the Ubuntu devs achieve a seamless transition from Plymouth to LightDM without any VT messages leaking through?
[03:55] <Phoenixz> Hum,.. I just did apt-get purge libmysqlclient18:i386 just to see what would get uninstalled and surprise surprise, I did not get a "are you sure...".. I guess the decision has been made, I will have to reinstall since right now even KDE itself is gone...
[03:55] <Phoenixz> This is NOT a good day...
[03:55]  * Phoenixz needs a beer
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> Mapley, voodoo
[03:55] <urgodfather> yeah, but i also plan to customize some of those apps. one in particular.. but i don't think there is a method to tweak via command line
[03:56] <Mapley> wilee-nilee, :c
[03:57] <ajdjawdoiawdioj> When I do a sound test Front Left and Front Right plays audio. With a headset in the analog audio port only Front Right plays audio. The headset plays audio in both with any other device\other laptops.
[03:57] <ajdjawdoiawdioj> Is this a motherboard issue or pulse audio?
[03:59] <Charcoalwing> urgodfather: Could you save the config files for it?
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, There are a number of ways to have a faster semi-automated install as far as triggering parts of it, and or cloning, or making your own install disc, however this channel is direct support. My suggestion is to do some research to get to some more specifics, this conversation as is could go for days as is.
[03:59] <superborg> urgodfather, all from the ship that made n4 and n5 simple
[04:00] <sawyer_> I freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 and my mic wont work, I tried changing things in pavu control but I cant get it to work, but it worked in 13.10
[04:01] <urgodfather> can you just tell me.... is there a way to re-package my install as a distro?
[04:01] <superborg> can anybody tell me why
[04:02] <urgodfather> Charcoalwing probably
[04:02] <Charcoalwing> urgodfather: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158865/how-do-i-convert-my-ubuntu-installation-into-a-live-usb-or-live-cd ?
[04:03] <topper4125> urgodfather, http://www.maketecheasier.com/6-tools-to-easily-create-your-own-custom-linux-distro/
[04:03] <superborg> “he’s the n5 is probably closer to the back portion
[04:04] <urgodfather> thanks Charcoalwing and topper4125
[04:05] <urgodfather> thats all i was asking.. point me in the right direction :)
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> Phoenixz, When you run a cli it tells you what is going to be removed.
[04:13] <sawyer_> I freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 and my mic wont work, I tried changing things in pavu control but I cant get it to work, but it worked in 13.10
[04:13] <Guest64573> test test
[04:15] <sawyer_> ubottu this scentance is false.
[04:18] <sawyer_> How can I update my mic drivers? maybe thats it.
[04:23] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: [20:47] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: Does it recognize the microphone but just doesn't pick up sound, or does it not recognize it at all? Does it recognize other microphones? [20:49] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: Have you tried anything besides pavu control? http://askubuntu.com/questions/133903/internal-microphone-not-listed-in-sound-settings There are some other ideas on this page.
[04:25] <fishduck> is SDL in ubuntus repository?
[04:25] <fishduck> nvm
[04:26] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, It sees it, but it doesnt pick up sound
[04:28] <topper4125> is your mike muted?? (Usually as on fresh install)...
[04:28] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: http://superuser.com/questions/644314/internal-microphone-no-sound-level-in-pavucontrol-but-record-with-arecord-paca This person's problem was mono vs stereo; have you tried switching that? http://annevankesteren.nl/2008/04/ubuntu-microphone This is if your microphone isn't enabled.
[04:28] <sawyer_> Nope
[04:29] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, OK I will try that
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[04:30] <FloodBot1> fadasdsad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:32] <CapitalSigma> hi all -- anyone here have expereince with pf-kernel?
[04:33] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, What is the second link refering to when it says Volume control?
[04:33] <fishduck> lol
[04:34] <sawyer_> fishduck, IM not seeing "edit" in either volume setting, or pulse audio
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> CapitalSigma, The channel works with you stating the issues to it.
[04:34] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, IM not seeing "edit" in either volume setting, or pulse audio
[04:37] <CapitalSigma> sure, sorry wilee-nilee, i'm new to irc. i'm running xubuntu, i compiled (with default options) and installed pf-kernel, on start up i'm getting "gave up waiting for root device"
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> To the channel
[04:37] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: Hm, I don't see "edit" anywhere, either. Maybe it's old? http://askubuntu.com/questions/77888/microphone-problem-in-ubuntu-11-10 Here's another page with suggestions.
[04:37] <CapitalSigma> then it drops me into busybox and my keyboard doesn't respond
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> CapitalSigma, In general this is support for kernels in the ubuntu repos, you might try ##linux if no one answers here.
[04:40] <CapitalSigma> okay, thank you
[04:41] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, None worked.
[04:41] <prasannapete> hi, anyone have compiled ubuntu for raspberry pi?
[04:42] <sawyer_> prasannapete, No, I believe there is a debian for it though.
[04:42] <Guest64573> ..
[04:42] <CapitalSigma> prasannapete: have you checked out raspbian?
[04:42] <prasannapete> i have used raspbian, but i wanted to know if ubuntu can be installed
[04:43] <sawyer_> prasannapete, No.
[04:43] <wafflejock> sawyer_: probably check out alsamixer and arecord to check your Mic out
[04:43] <sawyer_> wafflejock, What? arecord?
[04:43] <wafflejock> prasannapete: believe it would not be a good thing to run full ubuntu on a raspi
[04:43] <fishduck> I compiled blender, but all I get (when I start it) is a smaller screen resolution (but no blender). Any experiences? ^^ :3
[04:43] <wafflejock> sawyer_: http://linux.die.net/man/1/arecord
[04:44] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2011304 ? (scroll down to the bottom for their solution)
[04:45] <wafflejock> sawyer_: There's some good stuff on it here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture
[04:45] <sawyer_> wafflejock, Ubuntu, not arch
[04:45] <wafflejock> sawyer_: yeah gotcha same sound subsystem though
[04:46] <wafflejock> sawyer_: I used this for diagnosing stuff with my own mic using Kubuntu, ultimately turned out it was a hardware failure
[04:46] <wafflejock> sawyer_: is it a USB mic? or "regular"
[04:46] <sawyer_> wafflejock, Its internal, but it works in 13.10 and windows.
[04:47] <CapitalSigma> arch wiki often has some great distro-neutral advice on how to get things working
[04:47] <sawyer_> wafflejock, so its not hardware failure
[04:48] <wafflejock> sawyer_: yeah gotcha, in alsamixer you'll see channels as muted with MM under their volume control, if you see internal mic with mm in there you hit M to unmute after selecting that channel with the arrows, if it's not muted in there arecord should work
[04:48] <sawyer_> I think IM getting some where, I increased the mic gain in alsa mixer and now there is a small amount of orange in pulse auudio
[04:49] <sawyer_> wafflejock, Where would I see mm? I dont see it
[04:49] <wafflejock> just under the "volume slider" it either has 00 or mm
[04:49] <wafflejock> if you hit m it should toggle
[04:50] <sawyer_> I dont see anything changing when I hit m, or "volume slider"
[04:51] <wafflejock> weird definitely does it here, just muted my music :)
[04:51] <wafflejock> you're in alsamixer ?
[04:51] <sawyer_> Yes
[04:52] <sawyer_> and sound settings, and pulse audio, but my mic in pulse now has a small orange bar indicating something is making it through, but its not much, and weather or not I actually make noise doesnt move it
[04:53] <wafflejock> sawyer_: http://snag.gy/UICd8.jpg <- here's what mine looks like with the MM and 00 I was talking about
[04:53] <sawyer_> and now under recording there is, "GNOME Volume Control Dialog: Peak detect From Built in audio Analog"
[04:54] <sawyer_> wafflejock, Ok nothing is muted
[04:54] <sawyer_> two things at 00 though
[04:54] <wafflejock> sawyer_: believe that testing ALSA itself using arecord from the arch instructions is the best bet because I'm pretty sure Pulse and/or Jack work on top of ALSA so if that isn't working I wouldn't expect the others to, I'm a programmer but not a Linux expert though still learning the ropes
[04:54] <wafflejock> yea 00 is okay think it just means "open" or on
[04:55] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: Are you talking right at the microphone? When I had an internal one it couldn't detect any sound from me unless I talked *right* into it.
[04:55] <wafflejock> F6 to see other cards too if you don't see your Mic on the first one
[04:55] <fishduck> compiled darkplaces... but when I run it, it just... does nothing but changes my screen resolution. Any ideas?
[04:55] <sawyer_> wafflejock My sound card is Default -
[04:55] <sawyer_> Charcoalwing, doesnt make a difference
[04:56] <wafflejock> fishduck: is darkplaces the new blender you were talking about up there? don't have experience compiling it, is there a problem with the one in the repo? or just looking for the latest cycles updates?
[04:56] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: What does it sound like when you use sound recorder?
[04:57] <sawyer_> charcoalwing White noise
[04:57] <fishduck> wafflejock: I don't have the slightest idea ^^
[04:57] <wafflejock> fishduck: if you just want blender you don't need to build it from source it's available in the main repos
[04:57] <wafflejock> fishduck: sudo apt-get install blender
[04:58] <fishduck> wafflejock: I know, but I want to learn how to do it.
[04:58] <wafflejock> fishduck: fair enough, sorry though don't have experience building that one myself from scratch
[04:59] <fishduck> np
[05:01] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, What do I do now?
[05:01] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: http://www.humans-enabled.com/2011/07/help-when-your-microphone-is-not.html This page has a video about sound settings that could make it not work?
[05:02] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, OK I will try that
[05:02] <wafflejock> sawyer_: yeah so for me it turned out I had one damaged external Mic which I didn't realize ever happened, I reinstalled my whole OS after lots of debugging then eventually found out my Mic was just broken (hooking up the headphone end and talking into them worked, face-palm), my USB mic wasn't working in Hangouts because it was hooked up through a USB hub... so two random problems not related directly to your problem, but I feel
[05:02] <wafflejock> your pain, ultimately audacity helped me verify everything was working because you can easily select the mic inputs in there to test
[05:03] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=f2HYyRgue_8 I don't think the suggestion in the comments here was on any of the other links, it doesn't say anywhere if it worked for the person but you could still try.
[05:03] <Charcoalwing> *. It
[05:06] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: You could also try posting on the Ubuntu forums about the issue?
[05:06] <sawyer_> Charcoalwing, I Dont like doing that because I have been trying to get it to work for days, and I am tired of waiting, I dont want to wait for posts.
[05:08] <DatWolf> dood
[05:08] <DatWolf> im legit blaq as fuq
[05:10] <pretend_genius> Hello
[05:11] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, That video did work, most of those settings arent around in precise.
[05:12] <context> i burnt three dvd's tonight. none of them were readable :-/ i feel doomed
[05:13] <wafflejock> context: check your MD5 Checksum lower your burner speed
[05:13] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1369142&highlight=microphone Here's another thread.
[05:13] <wafflejock> context: also check that they aren't readable by the computer that burned them
[05:14] <wafflejock> pretend_genius: hi
[05:14] <context> well i just converted an iso to image and put on usb stick
[05:14] <context> and still cant boot it
[05:14] <wafflejock> context: I've had lots of things stop a USB boot from working so usually stick to discs when I can
[05:15] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: Even if it's already been days, maybe a forum post could end up saving more days? It would also give you a place to collect the the things you've tried already and what settings and microphone you have, so it'd be easier to show others.
[05:15] <context> ive honestly never had good luck with usb sticks bootable, which is totally retarded
[05:15] <wafflejock> sawyer_: Charcoalwing makes all good points, if you can't find a post for your particular hardware that makes sense to tag onto making a new one doesn't hurt
[05:16] <wafflejock> context: yeah well I think USB hardware tends to have more variables involved than a CD or DVD where you just have to deal with the different layers but otherwise mostly standardized, USB drives are very variable
[05:17] <wafflejock> context: plus depends on the BIOS being at least somewhat modern
[05:17] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, Ok this one seems promising, its a lot like what I have going on.
[05:17] <context> only a year or two old. i swear ive done it before. just havent touched this box in like 9 months
[05:18] <sawyer_> I have to restart now I will be right back.
[05:18] <context> burning again but slower speed.
[05:18] <context> external dvd burner on my mb air
[05:18] <context> im just complaining to complain. i <3 ubuntu
[05:18] <context> its almost 12am and im a many beers in ;)
[05:19] <wafflejock> :) no worries some days computers just don't want to cooperate
[05:19] <context> some?
[05:19] <context> luckily im not 'that' IT guy at work for many years
[05:20] <pretend_genius> Now I want to be a drunk IT guy
[05:20] <context> my laptop always works (and im not saying that cause its a mac, my gentoo laptop always worked also unless i knew i was breaking it)
[05:20] <sawyer> IM back
[05:20] <pretend_genius> wb
[05:20] <context> i just want to play with this crap before my new server comes in the mail
[05:21] <wafflejock> context: could always go virtual box too if you're just experimenting with OSes
[05:22] <context> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Poweredge-C1100-1U-2X-XEON-QC-L5520-2-26GHZ-NO-HDD-72GB-DDR3-Tested-/261274072295?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&hash=item3cd525f4e7 <-- gonna make an awesome MAAS/Juju/Openstack playground at home (once i have them)
[05:22] <pretend_genius> could you run a different partition OS as a virtual OS?
[05:22] <context> "partition os" ?
[05:23] <sawyer> charcoalwing, Every thing that is happening to that guy is happening to me, but he doesnt have the answer
[05:23] <context> run a VM off a separate partition ?
[05:25] <context> and or / honestly ... just a very nice box to have as a home server for the price
[05:27] <wheatthin> sorry, don't want to be rude, but I think that may be offtopic
[05:28] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386425 This thread talks about some other things in alsa mixer. It's about a person that has sound but it's really low, but it also has a part about unmuting volume.
[05:28] <rhin0> to get better sound use pavucontrol
[05:28] <wheatthin> if it's really low, he might have to turn up the pcm or master channels
[05:28] <rhin0> sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[05:28] <wafflejock> pretend_genius: if you mean can you run an installed OS as a virtualbox machine I believe the answer is no
[05:30] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/131857/alsamixer-howto-disable-auto-mute-mode This one's almost the same but has a couple more alsamixer options.
[05:31] <pretend_genius> I mean booting a 2nd operating system in a first as a virtual OS
[05:31] <wafflejock> pretend_genius: no you can't do that
[05:31] <wafflejock> pretend_genius: I've checked it out some
[05:31] <wafflejock> pretend_genius: the problem is basically the OS is configured based on the hardware and the virtual hardware is different
[05:31] <sawyer> charcoalwing, I have mic and internal mic, what is mic?
[05:32] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1395094 Also since pulse audio/pavucontrol wasn't working for you and neither is alsa, according to this thread another sound thing called OSS could work.
[05:32] <sawyer> charcoalwing, Maybe thats the problem, it seems to want to use mic, but I think it should be internal mic.
[05:32] <wafflejock> pretend_genius: you're better off having shared separate partition that both can read/write for media and stuff you want to share between OSes
[05:32] <aarcane> if I install 14.04 daily build from the ISO, will I then automatically be running 14.04 final if I stay up to date using aptitude udpate; aptitude upgrade regularly?
[05:33] <topper4125> aarcane, should work.. but I wound't recommend it on a system you depend on...
[05:33] <sawyer> charcoalwing, So try OSS?
[05:33] <context> yeah im starting to hate this external dvd burner. it even verified and said success, i put it back in and it says 'cant read'
[05:33] <context> aarcane: 'should' yes? like topper4125 said, if you care, dont do it
[05:34] <Charcoalwing> sawyer yeah, may as well try it. Also huh, I don't know where the extra microphone would come from. Can you turn it off in the normal sound settings? There should be a dropdown for different microphones.
[05:34] <aarcane> topper4125, context:  That's what I was afraid of.  I was hoping to get a head start on migrating to 14.04, but since it's highly recommended against...
[05:34] <sawyer> charcoalwing, I think one of the tutorials I tried had me remove my pulse, so I cant anymore...
[05:36] <context> a head start? 14.04 isnt gonna be THAT much different from 13.10.. and anything you REALLY care about being that up to date should be in a ppa
[05:36] <sawyer> charcoalwing, I cant install oss for some reason, the deb just says :Cannot install 'gcc:i386'
[05:36] <topper4125> aarcane, on systems you depend on, always stay with supported releases (Personally I only run LTS to LTS)
[05:37] <aarcane> topper4125, I'm on 12.04 now, and it's gotten a bit long in the tooth.  I was hoping, since I had time to do upgrades today...  but since it's advised against
[05:37] <fishduck> how do I get rid of the annoying scrollbar in unity?
[05:37] <context> depending on env, LTS or at most actual release... desktop/workstation, id still do release, and PPA the stuff i want to be 'edge'
[05:37] <fishduck> the auto hiding-wtf-whatever-it-is scrollbar and get a normal one?
[05:37] <fishduck> also, whos idea was it to remove the scrollbar and put that weird thing there?
[05:38] <fishduck> it's a terrible idea. If the devs are reading this..... ffs, just add a normal scrollbar
[05:38] <sawyer> fishduck, What wierd thing? Can you link to a picture?
[05:38] <context> fishduck: im sure it was a redhead
[05:38] <topper4125> still running 12.04.3 on this machine... but most of my Software is installed via PPA rather than any repositories... so the software fresh, the OS is stable...
[05:38] <fishduck> sawyer: http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-get-classic-scrollbar-back-in-ubuntu-11-04-tip/  can't be removed like that in my current ubuntu version
[05:38] <fishduck> context: probably
[05:39] <sawyer> fishduck, Why does it matter?
[05:39] <context> damn gingers
[05:39] <pretend_genius> test
[05:40] <fishduck> sawyer: because (1) Can't scroll to the end of a file in one swipe (2) takes 2 damned second until you actually get a grip of it, if at all
[05:40] <sawyer> fishduck, Well I dont know on that one.
[05:40] <topper4125> got rid of that 'option' a while back myself...
[05:40] <fishduck> also, you'll have to fiddle with your cursor to get it
[05:40] <fishduck> sawyer: it sucks.
[05:41] <fishduck> can it be removed?
[05:41] <xangua> fishduck: you just pasted a link that explained how to...
[05:42] <fishduck> Sometimes you want to skim trough a large document really quick, and need to be able to ... ffs, nvm.. any ideas of how to get rid of it?
[05:42] <fishduck> a scrollbar isn't suppose to disappear
[05:42] <fishduck> it gives you an overview too
[05:42] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: "apt-get install gcc.i386"?
[05:42] <sawyer> E: Unable to locate package gcc.i386
[05:42] <sawyer> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'gcc.i386'
[05:43] <sawyer> Need to log out and back in be right back
[05:44] <sawyer> im back
[05:45] <DatWolf> so swaggets
[05:45] <fishduck> fixed.
[05:45] <fishduck> I bug-fixed it with apt-get purge overlay-scrollbar . Will send the devs a patch later
[05:45] <sawyer> Why does it work in 13.10 but not 12.04, thats the part that gets me.
[05:46] <fishduck> xangua: I also clearly wrote that it was irrelevant for my version
[05:46] <sawyer> Gotta log out and in again brb
[05:47] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound Scroll down to "Installing Prerequisite Packages" and try the commands there?
[05:47] <sawyer> Im back
[05:47] <sawyer> Ok, so what do i try now?
[05:47] <fishduck> question: if I have a game running.. can I switch back to the desktop like in windows, and then back to that game window?
[05:47] <Charcoalwing> One of the commands installs gcc, so then you might be able to get OSS working.
[05:48] <madsailor> fishduck: alt tab just like windows
[05:48] <sawyer> charcoalwing, I dont want to try anything unsupported, last time I did I lost my gui...
[05:49] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: Maybe you could try it on a live cd first?
[05:50] <sawyer> charcoalwing, Its unsupported, and that page says its buggy in ubuntu, I just dont think its a good idea.
[05:50] <sawyer> charcoalwing, it worked in 13.10, what is different from here to there that would make it work?
[05:51] <sawyer> charcoalwing, Maybe its my drivers.
[05:51] <sawyer> charcoalwing, how would I go about updating thoughs?
[05:51] <sawyer> charcoalwing, And how do I get pulse audio back?
[05:52] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: "sudo apt-get install pulseaudio"?
[05:53] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: http://www.stchman.com/alsa_update.html This page is about a script to update the ALSA driver.
[05:54] <sawyer> OK I will try that, thank you
[05:54] <fishduck> madsailor: tested that, won't work. Could be that it's just this game that hijacks everything
[05:56] <sawyer> charcoalwing, Ok im updating my driver thank you.
[05:57] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto Also here's a page about trouble-shooting, it gets to the microphone at "No mic working, rest OK".
[05:59] <sawyer> Well , I updated my drivers, I am going to restart brb
[06:02] <sawyer> still no luck
[06:03] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto Here's the troubleshooting page again! It also has a driver updating section, so maybe that way of updating could work better.
[06:03] <sawyer> charcoalwing, Ok
[06:03] <sawyer> charcoalwing, Im trying it
[06:05] <optraz> how to redetect the display fit to the screen? right now the display is larger than the screen can fit
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> fishduck: can you run the game in a different resolution maybe, so its on your desktop
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> !display | optraz
[06:06] <sawyer> charcoalwing, This page is confusing me..
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> !sound | sawyer
[06:08] <sawyer> lotuspsychje, No offence, but unless you are going to be more usefull than playing with your bot, just stop...
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> sawyer: did you actually read the sound url?
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> sawyer: alot of usefull ino on there
[06:09] <sawyer> lotuspsychje, There is nothing wrong with my sound, but nothing is picking up my mic.
[06:09] <optraz> lotuspsychje: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution content number 1, the file  ~/.config/monitors.xml is not exist in my xubuntu..
[06:11] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: The links from the bot also talk about microphone; like the first link has a part that says "Audio Capture - Making your Microphone Work".
[06:11] <Charcoalwing> *microphones
[06:14] <sawyer> Go to menu: Edit ▸ Preferences ▸ Devices. Go to section Recording
[06:14] <sawyer> There is no edit
[06:14] <sawyer> Lots of things say to go to edit, but its not there
[06:16] <kakka> hi, all, i am trying to improve read write performance to the NTFS partitions, i couldn't change them because i need windows also, i am using a HDD and NTFS-3G is more than half slow as compared with windows
[06:16] <kakka> i installed latest version from source code
[06:17] <kakka> and didn't see any performance boost
[06:17] <kakka> i also enableed big writes
[06:17] <kakka> but in synaptic it is showing older version is installed
[06:17] <kakka> but in terminal, it is showing, latetst version has been installed
[06:18] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: I have to go, I hope you get it figured out eventually.
[06:18] <kakka> while removing older version from synaptic, it asks for removing remastersys alos
[06:18] <kakka> i don't want to loose remastersys
[06:19] <sawyer> charcoalwing, thank you for your help.
[06:19] <kakka> i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[06:19] <kakka> ANYBODY HERE, will help me to improve read write performance on the NTFS partitions
[06:19] <sawyer> !patience | kakka
[06:21] <kakka> ext4 is also slow as compared with NTFS, on my system, i am getting read speed from pendrive around 74 mB , while same pendrive with fat formatted, give me speed 50-55 Mbps on ext4 system
[06:22] <linu1> hi i have been trying to download ccid-1.4.12.tar.bz2,but the official webpage not loaded, is it any problem with server
[06:29] <JordanJ2> Hello, I am using a standard account in ubuntu. I know the administrator account password and would like to use sudo -s as that user. How can I do this?
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, I'm not sure you can sudo anything from a standard account.
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> its not in the right group
[06:34] <JordanJ2> I cannot use login <user>
[06:34] <JordanJ2> To gain root privilages
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, Not sure to be honest, I have not needed to use a standard account, but to get admin and use sudo I would think you have to have sudo rights.
[06:35] <topper4125> !root
[06:37] <JordanJ2> I would like to use sudo as another user who is in the sudoers file
[06:37] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, When you make a second user in the gui it has a admin option.
[06:38] <JordanJ2> Yes, I would not like to make them admin
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> admin=sudo
[06:38] <topper4125> sudo -i -u <username>
[06:39] <JordanJ2> That's not working >_<
[06:39] <topper4125> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Logging_in_as_another_user
[06:40] <topper4125> dangerous stuff on that page... use with caution jordanj2
[06:41] <JordanJ2> All I want to do is when a standard user tries to use sudo ask for <admin account's> password
[06:44] <JordanJ2> Is that possible?
[06:50] <topper4125> JordanJ2, see if this helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/user-management.html
[06:54] <uncle_ben> i set up ddclient to update every 25 days...will a sleeping process get reset after a reboot?
[06:57] <no0p> so I have this program that accepts data on stdin, and another which writes to a file.  how do I get these two together?
[06:58] <no0p> can I create a file descriptor that is stdin for a program?
[07:01] <boodroscotch> Hi, I'm using Firefox 25.0 on Ubuntu 13.10, but I don't have WebRTC support. Is Firefox on Ubuntu compiled with WebRTC support?
[07:10] <jmgk> Rajsun:
[07:11] <fahadash> Who the crazy-breaktruck-guy names the OS 'ubuntu' ?
[07:11] <fahadash> Pretty mouthful
[07:26] <lvleph> For some reason 13.04 does not suspend when closing the lid. However, it does recognize the lid closing and I can suspend manually using pm-suspend. Additionally, I do have it set to suspend on closing the lid.
[07:27] <Sanju> HI
[07:28] <lvleph> Hi\
[07:28] <JordanJ2> HI
[07:28] <Sanju> i am new in ubuntu plzzz hel
[07:28] <lvleph> ask a question then
[07:29] <Sanju> how microchip pic programming in eclipse
[07:29] <blurkis__> can some one recomend a product sort of like apple tv  that can send video-signal from a computer to a tv? I want to be able to connect my laptop wireless to the tv to watch videos etc?
[07:29] <lvleph> Sanju that seems like more of an eclipse question. I don't use IDEs so...
[07:29] <blurkis__> it seems (as normal) apple tv is tied to apple products, i want something simular that works with ubuntu
[07:30] <lvleph> blurkis__, I use a Minix Neo X5 mini
[07:30] <lvleph> Specifically the X7 mini has been hacked to run Ubuntu
[07:30] <Sanju> which ide better for embedded??
[07:30] <lvleph> they are android based though
[07:31] <Sanju> which ide better for embedded??
[07:31] <lvleph> Sanju, this is the Ubuntu help channel and those questions aren't really related to ubuntu
[07:31] <Sanju> ok..
[07:32] <lvleph> You can however find a list of IDEs in the program manager
[07:32] <blurkis__> lvleph, thanks. will look into that
[07:32] <fahadash> blurkis__, If your TV supports DLNA/UPNP Media Server connectivity, There are media servers you can install on your laptop
[07:33] <fahadash> blurkis__, To throw in a name, 'Twonky Media Server'
[07:33] <lvleph> fahadash, I think XBMC can do this too.
[07:33] <Sanju> present time i am going to meeting..i talk to lata ...
[07:33] <Sanju> thanks
[07:33] <lvleph> yw Sanju
[07:34] <Sanju> thanks dear..
[07:34] <lvleph> Saturday meetings are the best!
[07:39] <Guest68472> why cant i left-shift 2 key in unbunto stido when at a web browser
[07:39] <Guest68472> studio
[07:39] <blurkis__> fahadash, wel.. its a modern tv so perhaps it does, but I belive it does not help me that much. I want a wireless setup so that I can stream movies etc to the tv.  Using these protocols on the tv does not help the wireless bits right?
[07:40] <JordanJ2> I am running ssh and would like to disable users from entering another users /home
[07:41] <fahadash> blurkis__, Yes DLNA does that. Most new TVs that have wifi enabled come with DLNA/upnp media support
[07:41] <lvleph> JordanJ2, set the permissions on the other users folders so that they don't have read permissions
[07:41] <fahadash> blurkis__, Go to software center in your ubuntu machine, look for media servers, install one and activate it. See if your TV discovers it
[07:42] <blurkis__> fahadash, looked into it, my tv has no wifi..  so Its out of question :(  though it would have been nice :)
[07:42] <fahadash> blurkis__, Then you need a device that hooks up to your home network, much like some adapter or something... Most sony-bluray players have this feature
[07:43] <JordanJ2> Can I do that via terminal?
[07:43] <lvleph> I think my suspend issue has something to do with sudo cat /proc/acpi/event
[07:43] <lvleph> cat: /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[07:43] <fahadash> jordan, chmod, chgrp
[07:43] <blurkis__> fahadash, I was thinking more in the terms of a cheap media-device that can stream to the tv, I just need to find one that works with ubuntu and the free media servers
[07:44] <lvleph> blurkis__, sounds like an android tv device fits
[07:44] <fahadash> blurkis__, Latest sony's are under $50, blackfriday is around the corner
[07:44] <lvleph> this is what the minix neo is
[07:44] <fahadash> blurkis__, Google Chromecast has DLNA (Unconfirmed)
[07:44] <Guest68472> the left crntl key open system  vol  cannot  access  oper case letters  does anyone  know how to fix this
[07:45] <Guest68472> in unbuntu studio
[07:45] <Guest68472> i dont know if my keyboard is  encoding wrnk or itis a distro error
[07:45] <JordanJ2> Can I login to another users acount via ssh?
[07:46] <fahadash> blurkis__, Here is an interesting page... http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/08/13/ezcast-is-wi-fi-display-solution-to-be-used-with-actions-micro-hdmi-tv-dongle/
[07:47] <fahadash> blurkis__, If you don't have money, go buy an S-Video or VGA cable (whichever can interface between your laptop and TV) for under $10
[07:48] <JordanJ2> lvleph, I can see no option to do that
[07:49] <sam113101> where can I find dri3proto?
[07:49] <lvleph> sudo chmod 700 /home/<folder>
[07:49] <Guest7127> Why is Ubuntu installing such an ancient nvidia driver by default? the current *stable* version is 331
[07:49] <lvleph> JordanJ2, ^^
[07:50] <JordanJ2> Can I do that from System Settings?
[07:50] <lvleph> Guest7127, what version of Ubuntu?
[07:50] <Guest7127> lvleph: 13.10
[07:50] <lvleph> JordanJ2, no
[07:50] <JordanJ2> lvleph, >_<
[07:50] <JordanJ2> 700? what group is that?
[07:50] <Guest7127> by default it installs 304, I can update to 319
[07:51] <helmut_> hi
[07:51] <lvleph> Guest7127, 304 is the most tested
[07:51] <Guest7127> lvleph: don't you think nvidia tests their driver themselves?
[07:52] <Guest7127> the 33x series was released when steam came to Linux and brought great performance improvements
[07:53] <lvleph> Guest7127,  you can try sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[07:53] <Guest7127> I'm also doubting the old drivers will support new hardware
[07:53] <lvleph> However I have read that 331 is buggy
[07:53] <lvleph> I have been working on getting nvidia to work for over a week now
[07:53] <JordanJ2> What is group 700? ^^
[07:53] <Guest7127> but won't that also update the X-serve and everything?
[07:54] <lvleph> 700 is a numeric representation of rwx - - for permissions
[07:54] <Guest7127> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates also only has 319 and no saucy packages
[07:54] <blurkis__> fahadash, btw, thanks for the conversation. The talk about blueray made me look, and right now.. it seems the best sollution is a simple bluerayplayer with dlna etc. I saw one that even has netflix support, seems like a good solution for me.
[07:54] <lvleph> Guest7127, as far as I know it only deals with the driver
[07:55] <lvleph> Hmmm Guest7127 looks like I need to find the repo that had 331 let me check my history
[07:56] <lucia> sdafsdf
[07:56] <fahadash> blurkis__, np. I've been streaming media from all kinds of devices ranging from Laptop, NAS Server to my TV for 5 years
[07:56] <Sandie> hello!
[07:57] <a4343> Does Ubunto spy on its users?
[07:57] <lvleph> Guest7127, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/10/install-nvidia-331-17-ubuntu-linux-mint/
[07:57] <fahadash> a4343, Good one
[07:57] <Guest7127> lvleph: thx, I'll try that
[07:57] <a4343> So true not true?
[07:58] <fahadash> a4343, Your question reminds me of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
[07:58] <JordanJ2> lvleph, Can I use /home/*?
[07:59] <lvleph> I believe it will work, but I would be worried about messing it up and then not being able to access any home folders JordanJ2
[07:59] <fahadash> JordanJ2, You got me worried buddy
[07:59] <JordanJ2> :/
[07:59] <duoi> a4343, Ubuntu itself doesn't. However Amazon shopping results have been baked into it so every search you make is essentially routed to Amazon's servers. You can however disable this from taking place.
[08:00] <a4343> I saw that one. Ubunto's position seems to be that it was ok to collect users data and send it to canonical or whatever they are
[08:00] <blurkis__> fahadash, does dlna meen that any program that supports this protocol can stream to the dlna enabled device?
[08:00] <JordanJ2> If I have 5 users, i'm supposted to do that for all of them?
[08:00] <fahadash> JordanJ2, You must know what you're doing... I am not following the whole conversation... But from those bits and pieces, its apparent that this could result into a catastrophic failure
[08:00] <a4343> So the spying occurs by default?  I assume that there is a message box that appears that informs users they are being spied on and how to turn off that feature?
[08:00] <lvleph> fahadash, he wants to make home folders unreadable by other users
[08:01] <fahadash> blurkis__, Yes. And its pretty open technology as well as a de-facto standard in the industry so most Players tend to support it
[08:01] <lvleph> by using chmod 700 /home/*
[08:01] <Joufflu> whatever happened to swap ?
[08:01] <fahadash> lvleph, He is chmod-ding away everything inside /home
[08:02] <pogiako> hello
[08:02] <wafflejock> blurkis__: yeah DLNA is digital life network alliance if it says it supports it they usually talk
[08:02] <pogiako> whats the best stable linux distro?
[08:02] <a4343> If the users dont care like Ubunto says, then there is no harm in having a big disclaimer that shows up when they send off your data
[08:02] <wafflejock> pogiako: very subjective
[08:02] <lvleph> I would be worried that only one user could access any home folder doing that
[08:02] <pogiako> ;)
[08:02] <fahadash> blurkis__, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play
[08:02] <sam113101> where can I find dri3proto?
[08:03] <pogiako> no seriously, thinking of switching to 12.04
[08:03] <wafflejock> a4343: you can go with Kubuntu or some other distro if you like, perhaps Linux Mint
[08:03] <wafflejock> oh gone
[08:03] <lvleph> pogiako, it will only have support until april
[08:03] <blurkis__> fahadash, so for example, I play musif through spotify.. is there some chanse to strean to a dlna device?
[08:03] <duoi> a4343 it's not "spying" any more than Google reading your emails to present you relevant ads. Amazon doesn't care if you search "bomb equipment"-- if anything, they'll give you links to buy the equipment from Amazon. That said, don't assume that you have any privacy from a distribution that doesn't state that it intends to provide privacy. If you are concerned with spying, consider that all of
[08:03] <duoi> your information goes through your various domain name servers and ISPs.
[08:03] <pogiako> i want a more stable distro than what im using w/c is 13.04
[08:04] <duoi> Oh balls. He left. After I typed all that out -_-
[08:04] <wafflejock> 12.04 is LTS
[08:04] <wafflejock> !LTS
[08:04] <duoi> Brb calling Amazon to track him down\
[08:04] <fahadash> blurkis__, Never used spotify... I mostly stream through Twonky and Windows-Media, they both work on media files from hard-drives
[08:04] <lvleph> for some reason I thought 2 year but you are right
[08:05] <wafflejock> I moved back down to Kubuntu 12.04
[08:05] <wafflejock> was on 13.04 okay but had some hardware problems (actual hardware problems) I mistook for software issues so I ended up downgrading
[08:07] <blurkis__> fahadash, hmm, if a program does not support dlna, is there some tweak to perhaps stream the computers audio out to dlna anyway? if you get me? instead of a musicprogram streaming, some other program catches audio output and then streams it?
[08:07] <wafflejock> blurkis__: sounds like a cool idea... don't know of anything though
[08:08] <fahadash> blurkis__, I can see where you're going with that :P
[08:09] <fahadash> blurkis__, I heard somebody who was bypassing DRM by tapping VGA output and writing that to DVDs and selling all those Netflix movies got arrested
[08:09] <JordanJ2> I have set up a vm with ssh on ubuntu but cannot access outside my network
[08:10] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: what do you mean outside your network?
[08:10] <fahadash> JordanJ2, I would look into VM's configuration to see if NIC is bridged or NAT-ted
[08:10] <wafflejock> fahadash: +
[08:10] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: you need to have port forwarding on the router going to the IP for the VM
[08:11] <JordanJ2> I tried that didn't work
[08:11] <JordanJ2> Using NAT
[08:11] <blurkis__> fahadash, found a samsung bd-f5100 that supports dlna and netflix etc..  seems like a good win for me. :)
[08:12] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: can you connect via SSH when you're on the local network but on another machine outside the one running the VM
[08:12] <uncle_ben> i set up ddclient to update every 25 days...will a sleeping process get reset after a reboot?
[08:12] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: that would be step one I would think, if that doesn't work the port forwarding won't help
[08:14] <JordanJ2> I will try
[08:14] <wafflejock> uncle_ben: don't believe so if I understand you correctly, when the system reboots it may restart some processes based on the session if that is being saved but even so processes don't just resume from where they were in most cases (rsync being an exception I can think of right now)
[08:14] <JordanJ2> 1 sec
[08:16] <he_> 有说中文的吗？
[08:17] <uncle_ben> wafflejock, it's just that my IP rarely changes, so the default of 600 seconds is ridiculous...on the other hand, it seems like from what you're saying, it won't save the state it was in after a reboot and pick up where it left off, so i think i'll just change it to once every 12 hours
[08:17] <wafflejock> uncle_ben: usually you want to put something like that in a startup script somewhere so after a reboot it's back in business http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7221757/run-automatically-program-on-startup-under-linux-ubuntu
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> !cn | he
[08:18] <uncle_ben> wafflejock, thanks, i'll take a look at it
[08:19] <grumpybynight> Hello, all
[08:19] <wafflejock> grumpybynight: hello
[08:19] <grumpybynight> Is this the right place to ask for Ubuntu dual-boot advice?
[08:20] <wafflejock> grumpybynight: sure shoot
[08:20] <nick07> hi, i do know how to mount a nfs share in ubuntu, but i can't get access to it. sudo mount -o soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 192.168.2.x:/mnt /nfs  gets this: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.2.x:/
[08:20] <nick07> i set up a user name in freenas, but how to apply this?
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, yes
[08:20] <wafflejock> nick07: think you add stuff after the -o like username= and password=
[08:20] <grumpybynight> I'm on a Dell Inspiron running Windows 8.1. I want to dual-boot with Ubuntu 13.10. What would be the best way to go about this? Creating appropriate partitions, sharing files, etc.?
[08:21] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | grumpybynight
[08:21] <nick07> ow really ;) let me try that..
[08:21] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, little more. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, Sharing is the easy part just an extra ntfs partition, the ubuntu install is the challenge.
[08:23] <wafflejock> nick07: ah was going based on my cifs share from my own NAS just checked that out for NFS looks like doesn't apply http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1322405
[08:23] <nick07> ok, i see
[08:23] <nick07> what to do..
[08:25] <nick07> showmount -e 192.168.2.x -> Export list for 192.168.2.x: /mnt (everyone)
[08:26] <JordanJ2> wafflejock, I cannot access it from any other computers on the network
[08:26] <wafflejock> nick07: http://nixcraft.com/showthread.php/18145-NFS-server-mount-nfs-access-denied-by-server-while-mounting-x-y-z-w-shared-folder
[08:27] <grumpybynight> @wilee-nilee: Is it really that much of a challenge? I'd done it a few years ago, quite easily. But I guess there wasn't UEFI to contend with at the time.
[08:27] <nick07> let me check that
[08:27] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: okay so need to fiddle with the virtual box network settings I imagine, check the ip on the vm client
[08:27] <JordanJ2> I checked it
[08:27] <dannymichel> Anybody know how to get rid of this border separating the toolbar from the title? http://goo.gl/YSJjDN
[08:27] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: appear to be on the same network? same subnet and all?
[08:28] <JordanJ2> Yes
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, It is for some not for others, never had a uefi computer myself, can't be that hard really, if one knows both OS's in my opinion.
[08:28] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: does the router see the VM (status in the router config?)
[08:29] <JordanJ2> No
[08:29] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: I don't see how it can be connected to the internet if not, but it seems weird you can't connect if so
[08:29] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: can you ping from other computers even if SSH doesn't work
[08:29] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: I wonder if maybe some firewall issue is there
[08:31] <JordanJ2> wafflejock, http://puu.sh/5jOzJ.png
[08:31] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, Interesting thing though is the uefi setups are only uniform across a manufacturer, not among them, they all have their own tweaked versions it seems.
[08:32] <grumpybynight> wilee-nilee: Ah. Maybe I'd be better off running Virtualbox, then?
[08:33] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, I know I would image/clone the setup before doing it is all, easier to reload that if something goes wrong.
[08:33] <JordanJ2> wafflejock, should I change that?
[08:33] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: worth a shot honestly not sure if bridged will hep or not
[08:33] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: doesn't really hurt you can always change back with the network settings
[08:34] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: graphics settings or other hardware changes can cause problems but the network interface has never caused me problems when I fiddle with it
[08:34] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, I have W8.1 and 3 linux on a ssd right now but in msdos with a mbr so no biggie here.
[08:36] <impradeepy> sudo /etc/init.d/module-init-tools restart command not found please help me
[08:36] <grumpybynight> wilee-nilee: All I really want to be able to do is work with Ruby (on Rails) and Python. I guess Virtualbox should suit my purposes for now.
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, Probably so, do what feels most comfortable. ;)
[08:37] <grumpybynight> wilee-nilee: Cheers, thanks for the help! :)
[08:37] <wafflejock> grumpybynight: yeah I'm running Kubuntu with Virtual Box for Windows
[08:37] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[08:37] <wafflejock> either way though
[08:37] <grumpybynight> 2GB of RAM should be okay, right? Allocated to Ubuntu running using Virtualbox?
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, plenty
[08:38] <wafflejock> grumpybynight: will work fine yeah
[08:38] <wafflejock> I'm using 3.3GB right now but KDE is a bit heavy
[08:38] <grumpybynight> Ah
[08:39] <dannymichel> Anybody know how to get rid of this border separating the toolbar from the title? http://goo.gl/YSJjDN
[08:39] <grumpybynight> I used to use Kubuntu almost exclusively a few years ago
[08:39] <wafflejock> actually chrome is the hog right now
[08:39] <grumpybynight> I really liked using Kate
[08:39] <wafflejock> I'm sort of a tab mad man
[08:39] <grumpybynight> wafflejock: haha
[08:39] <wafflejock> grumpybynight: yeah I really just like being able to customize the panels
[08:39] <grumpybynight> wafflejock: Aren't we all
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> dannymichel, post that ping on the web, I closed my account there personally.
[08:41] <dannymichel> sure, wilee-nilee http://d.pr/i/6MdX btw, how did you do that? they told me you can't close accounts.
[08:42] <wilee-nilee> dannymichel, It's not removed just not open is all.
[08:42] <dannymichel> i see
[08:42] <dannymichel> Any ideas about the light border, wilee-nilee?
[08:42] <wilee-nilee> dannymichel, what desktop is this?
[08:43] <dannymichel> unity
[08:43] <dannymichel> 13.10
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> dannymichel, Not sure I use the shell, looks like you have changed the theme though.
[08:43] <dannymichel> i have a bit
[08:44] <dannymichel> but it's ambiance for the most part
[08:44] <dannymichel> Anybody have any ideas?
[08:44] <dannymichel> I looked all over the metacity xml
[08:44] <dreamon> part of syslog -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6425217/ -> line 8 -> gstreamer makes faults. -> any idea what to do?
[08:48] <crackerjackz> i'm bored so i came here to help
[08:49] <crackerjackz> give me something to do :p
[08:49] <dannymichel> know how to get rid of this border separating the toolbar from the title? http://d.pr/i/6MdX crackerjackz
[08:50] <wafflejock> crackerjackz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA <-Linus for an hour
[08:51] <shagelito> Greetings, there
[08:51] <reisio> salutations here
[08:51] <shagelito> i have a very serious problem with my grub.
[08:51]  * crackerjackz gives wafflejock a thumbs up
[08:51] <solars> hey, anyone got an idea why my cpu does not go below 1500mhz when scaling, although it can go as low as 800mhz?
[08:52] <crackerjackz> wafflejock, here you might enjoy this one.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-FPJ6lpRYU
[08:52] <reisio> solars: don't cross post
[08:52] <shagelito> i installed debian, and i blew it up in less than 48hrs :D
[08:52] <crackerjackz> shagelito, whats the problem?
[08:52] <solars> reisio, I'm not, wanted to post in ubuntu anyway
[08:52] <shagelito> crackerjackz: well i "had" a dualboot who worked perfectly
[08:52] <solars> I think it's an ubuntu issue
[08:52] <crackerjackz> whats it say when you try to boot... (initramfs) or something?
[08:52] <shagelito> crackerjackz: turns out that i messed with the grub cfg
[08:53] <shagelito> crackerjackz: ask for help on forums & #debian
[08:53] <wafflejock> solars: search about the governer you can adjust it with some files to some degree
[08:53] <solars> wafflejock, I know, but there is nothing about 1500mhz in the files..
[08:53] <shagelito> in #debian they aked me to do few things, but i think my helper was just anoyed after few hours hahaha
[08:53] <crackerjackz> shagelito, what happens when you try to boot?
[08:54] <wafflejock> solars: not sure have only tinkered with it a bit
[08:54] <shagelito> "error: invalid arch independant ELF magic.
[08:54] <shagelito> Entering rescue mode...
[08:54] <crackerjackz> dannymichel, i'm not sure what you are talking about
[08:54] <shagelito> so i first tryed to use boot repair
[08:55] <jacobi> do you know how to  install ipv6  in xunbuntu 13.10
[08:55] <dannymichel> if i make a better screenshot, are you capable of troubleshooting theme editing crackerjackz?
[08:55] <solars> wafflejock, alright, thanks
[08:55] <shagelito> crackerjackz: it ended badly. My last chance was a bootable grub2 cd
[08:55] <shagelito> crackerjackz: first, i was able to boot w8 and debian
[08:56] <crackerjackz> dannymichel, i'll try
[08:56] <shagelito> right now, the only ay to boot anything, its threw the grub2 cd. Also w8 wont load, because of a boot related problem.
[08:56] <wilee-nilee> shagelito, debian is not supported here.
[08:56] <dannymichel> crackerjackz http://d.pr/i/zer2
[08:56] <auronandace> !ipv6 | jacobi
[08:56] <JordanJ2> wafflejock, So I port forwarded it but cannot access it off my external ip
[08:56] <crackerjackz> shagelito, have you checked the filesystem for errors?
[08:57] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: you may need to connect from outside your network
[08:57] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: if you have a smartphone (android) foxfi can work
[08:57] <shagelito> tbh its my first hours on debian. I really try to dont let ubuntu away regarding all the problems im facing. So if you can tell me how to check that, ill be glad to do so
[08:57] <jacobi> ok! i will try.
[08:57] <JordanJ2> Let me grab it
[08:57] <jacobi> thank you!
[08:58] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: can use your cell network as a local wifi then and connect as though you're outside the network
[08:58] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: well you will be outside the network
[09:00] <shagelito> whoops back again.
[09:00] <crackerjackz> shagelito, well it all depends on what filesystem you are using... pastebin me the output of fdisk -l  and df -Th
[09:01] <shagelito> crackerjackz: sure ! thks for tryn
[09:01] <wilee-nilee> crackerjackz, This is ubuntu support take debian support to a pm.
[09:02] <sabgenton> this post seems to say  apt-get --build ing a package means you have to remove it by hand http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238898&p=1394089#post1394089
[09:02] <crackerjackz> okay
[09:02] <sabgenton> is the post wrong?
[09:02] <sabgenton> doesn't apt-get --build  make a package that can be uninstalled?
[09:04] <wafflejock> sabgenton: not aware of what you mean by apt-get --build
[09:04] <shagelito> crackerjackz: http://pastebin.com/KngWfG5R do u want me to google translate it ?
[09:05] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, apt-get --build?
[09:05] <wafflejock> sabgenton: if you download source and build it then the make file that comes with the source (if one exists, usually) will have stuff for install and uninstall usually
[09:05] <sabgenton> wafflejock: apt-get -b source packagename
[09:05] <sabgenton> wilee-nilee: -b
[09:06] <pogiako> what's a good distro for a newbie
[09:06] <crackerjackz> shagelito, we have to take this to PM or #debian as per request of the ops bc this channel is for ubuntu support
[09:07] <JordanJ2> wafflejock, I still cannot access it
[09:07] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: so you can connect from the internal network now but with port forwarding can't connect from WAN IP
[09:07] <shagelito> do u accept to help me threw pm ?
[09:07] <calimero_82> hey guys, my audio doesn't work
[09:08] <JordanJ2> Correct
[09:08] <grumpybynight> Do any of you own a Macbook?
[09:08] <crackerjackz> shagelito, yes i accept
[09:08] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: don't know gears grinding.... nothing but steam
[09:09] <calimero_82> hey guys, my audio doesn't work, what should i do?
[09:09] <JordanJ2> Hmm
[09:09] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: would double check the port forwarding and that the router doesn't need a reboot or anything
[09:09] <pogiako> whats a good distro for a newbie?
[09:09] <JordanJ2> Never did before
[09:09] <JordanJ2> Ubuntu
[09:10] <pogiako> trying to look for a  good distro for my mom
[09:10] <wafflejock> pogiako: Linux Mint was good for my parents
[09:10] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, Not sure why you would need to use a build, however remove and purge would work the same I would think, you just want to be careful what you remove and watch for dependencies as usual.
[09:10] <wafflejock> pogiako: they are Windows XP/95 people
[09:10] <pogiako> yeah i guess xp would work
[09:10] <pogiako> where can i get it for free?
[09:10] <pogiako> without pirating it ofcourse ;)
[09:10] <wafflejock> pogiako: oh I was suggesting Linux Mint
[09:11] <pogiako> haha
[09:11] <pogiako> i have that
[09:11] <wafflejock> pogiako: it's similar
[09:11] <pogiako> she doesnt like it
[09:11] <pogiako> coz she dont have time for dat
[09:11] <pogiako> haha
[09:11] <wilee-nilee> pogiako, this is ubuntu support what does Xp have to do with that?
[09:11] <pogiako> and i forgot her username and password
[09:11] <pogiako> wilee-nilee: i thought someone was suggesting me
[09:11] <JordanJ2> Double checked and nothing
[09:12] <unicornjedi> hello, I need help adding a website to my web server
[09:12] <wafflejock> sorry JordanJ2 can't really think of anything aside from port forwarding that should block it at that point
[09:12] <Vivekananda> what is the default file comparison software in 12.04 ? I want to find the difference in code lines
[09:13] <cvstx> herro
[09:13] <JordanJ2> Should I turn off firewall?
[09:13] <wafflejock> Vivekananda: think you need to install some sort of diff
[09:13] <cvstx> jordan yes
[09:13] <sabgenton> wilee-nilee: not quite getting you, I mean you  uncomment some deb-src entry in your /etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get -b install a package from there,  can you now uninstall this package with apt-get remove  or apt-get purge  Properly?
[09:13] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: u can temporarily to test but if you can connect locally I don't see why the port forward wouldn't work
[09:13] <unicornjedi> can anyone help me add a website to my webserver?
[09:13] <sabgenton> or does it loose its uninstaller abilitys?
[09:14] <wafflejock> Vivekananda: you can use meld or kdiff3 there are others I can't recall right now
[09:14] <sam113101> unicornjedi: what's the problem?
[09:14] <sabgenton> wafflejock: the guy in the forum seems to say it doesn't purge or remove the same as binary package
[09:15] <sabgenton> wafflejock: just trying to work out if what he's saying is missleading
[09:15] <wafflejock> sabgenton: yeah not sure about installing that way, when I've built projects from source for install I've usually gotten them from a third party stie
[09:15] <unicornjedi> sam113101, hi I just set up a webserver on ubuntu 13.10 using LAMP
[09:15] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, I think you are confused as to what deb-src is.
[09:16] <calimero_82> hey guys, my audio doesn't work, what should i do?
[09:16] <Vivekananda> wafflejock: I was wondering if there is already something installed by default. The problem with ubuntu is that for such things there is no way of knowing what is installed and what it does ( esp if it is cli and not gui based)
[09:16] <sabgenton> wilee-nilee: my understanding is it means apt-get update will get you a source based repo  and you can  pull in source pakages and install them from it
[09:16] <wafflejock> calimero_82: can you give details
[09:16] <Vivekananda> I wonder how you guys do it
[09:16] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, I have never used a build command with apt-get all the dependencies are connected deb-src or not
[09:16] <Vivekananda> !
[09:16] <kenny__> Hi ! I need an info about DU command : when i do du -axh it find 4.1GB but DF say 17GB on my / why so different ?
[09:16] <calimero_82> i've distro ubu 12.04 but audio doesn't work
[09:16] <unicornjedi> calimero_82, do you have pulse? does your audio click? be more specific?
[09:16] <wafflejock> Vivekananda: you can google to see what's there or use dpkg --get-selections | grep diff
[09:17] <wafflejock> Vivekananda: just gotta know a couple of commands to look for stuff
[09:17] <Vivekananda> but the program might not even be named "diff" eg meld
[09:17] <wafflejock> Vivekananda: true google would though, or wikipedia
[09:17] <wafflejock> Vivekananda: don't be angry you have too many options :)
[09:18] <JordanJ2> How do I stop a user from viewing others home directories?
[09:18] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: think you need to look into chroot for jailing a user through ssh
[09:18] <Joufflu> JordanJ2, punch'm in the back of his head.
[09:18] <unicornjedi> can some one help me with my web server?
[09:19] <JordanJ2> wafflejock, Where?
[09:19] <osiris33x> Hello all. I find that my laptop's trackpad as far too sensitive under Ubuntu, despite turning the sensitivity all the way down. Are there any third party apps or maybe more settings I can tweak to make the touchpad less jumpy?
[09:19] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93411/simplest-easy-way-to-jail-users
[09:19] <wafflejock> Google
[09:20] <wafflejock> osiris33x: does it just click under your palm or is it too fast?
[09:20] <osiris33x> When pulling my finger up off the trackpad, the cursor zips around.
[09:20] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, hi go to the DASH and type in Dconf
[09:21] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, Tell me when you're there
[09:21] <osiris33x> I'm a newbie, is DASH a terminal? (sorry)
[09:21] <kenny__> nobdy know where to find my lost GB ? ^^
[09:22] <wafflejock> kenny__: you want to see your file tree by size?
[09:22] <trijntje> osiris33x: no, the dash is the search prompt you get when you hit the super/windows key
[09:22] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, press the WINDOWS key or the APPLE key
[09:22] <osiris33x> Oh, okay.
[09:22] <Jordan_U> kenny__: What filesystem are you using? Do you have any large files currently open? Were there any permissions errors from the du command?
[09:22] <wafflejock> kenny__: sudo apt-get install ncdu
[09:22] <wafflejock> kenny__: sudo ncdu /
[09:23] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, when you are in the dash... type Dconf
[09:23] <osiris33x> It brings up AskUbuntu
[09:23] <unicornjedi> really?
[09:23] <trijntje> osiris33x: it searches both your computer and online sources
[09:23] <osiris33x> Understood.
[09:24] <nbastin> Does anyone know how to partition disks using preseed?
[09:24] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, are you in the editor?
[09:24] <osiris33x> Haven't found dconf yet, still trying.
[09:25] <kenny__> mmm like DU NCDU find only about 4GB excluding home far from 17GB from DF
[09:25] <osiris33x> Font Viewer application is the only app that comes up when searching for dconf
[09:25] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, press CTRL+ALT+T
[09:25] <kenny__> (home is on another part)
[09:25] <osiris33x> Terminal open
[09:25] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, A terminal should pop-up. type in     dconf-editor
[09:26] <osiris33x> Says it's not installed, and to use apt-get to do that. I'll try that first.
[09:26] <ripthejacker> how can I stream audio from one device to other device in the network?
[09:27] <osiris33x> Got it, dconf-editor is now running.
[09:27] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: depends on the protocols supported by the devices
[09:28] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: both are ubuntu systems
[09:28] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, Sweet. Okay tell me when dconf is up
[09:28] <marandi> hi guys , i installed lamp in my computer and i wanna have access from all over network to www sites so i change listen *:80 in ports.conf ! but still i cant access to them , what should i do ?!
[09:28] <osiris33x> It's up.
[09:28] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: can just share the files can use subsonic
[09:29] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: not just files, everything from system sounds, to the videos I'm watching in youtube.
[09:29] <kiwi_> hi ... yesterday i installed 12.04 amd64. using a usb broadband modem with the live cd or the fresh harddrive install was no problem. however, after updating the system, the modem was not 'usb-modeswitched' correctly anymore. it took me >8 hours to figure it out and finally make the correct usb-modeswitch configurations. i just wanted to report this here, in case any developers are present.
[09:29] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, Okay...  in left the panel... right click on "org"
[09:29] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, I mean LEFT click
[09:30] <osiris33x> Done
[09:30] <kenny__> Jordan_U, It"s an ext4 and the only big file is an mysql base
[09:30] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: the system sounds part is optional, but you get the point, like all the sound can be stream to the other device
[09:30] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: yeah second time I heard that kind of request tonight but don't know
[09:30] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, in left the panel... click "gnome"
[09:30] <kenny__> Jordan_U, and no permission error
[09:30] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: someone wanted DLNA on audo subsystem basically
[09:30] <wafflejock> same idea
[09:31] <osiris33x> Done
[09:31] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: http://chemicaloliver.net/linux/streaming-audio-from-ubuntu-linux-to-a-dlna-player-blu-ray-or-ps3/
[09:31] <marandi> hi guys , i installed lamp in my computer and i wanna have access from all over network to www sites so i change listen *:80 in ports.conf ! but still i cant access to them , what should i do ?!
[09:31] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: guess it does exist
[09:32] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, after that scroll down to "settings-daemon" then click "peripherals, then click touchpad
[09:32] <osiris33x> Found it.
[09:32] <wafflejock> marandi: you restart the server
[09:33] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: No DLNA, it's an ethernet network
[09:33] <osiris33x> Looks like I need to change the motion threshold?
[09:33] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: why does that mean no DLNA?
[09:33] <unicornjedi> the threshold is for controlling how many pixels the mouse can move before the acceleration kicks in
[09:34] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: http://www.dlna.org/
[09:34] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: Sorry, maybe I misunderstand dlna
[09:34] <marandi> wafflejock: i did restart the server !
[09:34] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: yeah it's just for streaming media on a network
[09:35] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: I thought it was only wireless
[09:35] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: it's a protocol lots of stuff supports can get apps on your smart devices and stuff, but just  a protocol for sharing the media
[09:35] <marandi> wafflejock: but nothing happened , i still dont access to apache website folder !
[09:35] <wafflejock> marandi: so you have localhost access but going to the server by IP is failing
[09:36] <marandi> wafflejock: exactly ! i try to open webserver with apache computer ip address which is 192.168.0.58 !
[09:36] <unicornjedi> orisis33x, how is it?
[09:37] <marandi> wafflejock: ok , solved , i opened 80 port in localhost
[09:37] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: Actually I was thinking something like this. My machine would have an audio server and devices can connect to the server.
[09:38] <jgcampbell300> i am trying to find a good virtual machine manager for XEN ... anyone have any suggestions
[09:38] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: I was thinking alsa server would be something like this
[09:38] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: yeah think that link I dropped at first wil do it
[09:38] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: not sure about alsa server doing it directly that may work too
[09:38] <unicornjedi> hello can someone help me with my webserver? I dont know how to add a website to it
[09:39] <kenny__> du -hsx  / must show all space used on the / partition right ?
[09:39] <jgcampbell300> unicornjedi, what web server
[09:40] <unicornjedi> jgcampbell300, a LAMP server
[09:40] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: if you install the rygel packages there though it looks like you can setup the audio to be broadcast as DLNA audio then you can setup any DLNA client device/program to play it
[09:40] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: thanks , I was looking for something like that, I don't know if I will be able to make Ubuntu stream to an Ubuntu , but I can certainly stream to my phone.
[09:40] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: Ok
[09:41] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: should be able to find a DLNA player in Ubuntu too I imagine
[09:41] <wafflejock> I've only used ones on
[09:41] <wafflejock> andriod though
[09:41] <ripthejacker> I have used a dlna server before in ubuntu, minidlna
[09:41] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: but it was just for files
[09:41] <jgcampbell300> unicornjedi, did you read the man pages
[09:41] <wafflejock> yeah looks like that rygel thing gets everything from pulse, but haven't tried
[09:41] <wilee-nilee> kiwi_ The developers do not come here, if you have a detailed description of what happened and your fix it might be relevant, a 3rd party dongle is not really relevant though, however I recognize your frustration
[09:42] <wafflejock> it sounds interesting anyhow
[09:42] <unicornjedi> jgcampbell300, nooo.....? I prefer simple step by step procedure
[09:42] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: Yes, I'll definitely try that, thanks for the help :)
[09:42] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: np good luck
[09:42] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: have you used mediatomb?
[09:43] <jgcampbell300> unicornjedi, try http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3 .... howtoforge.com is a good source for people that learn that way
[09:43] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: nope not aware of that
[09:43] <wafflejock> unicornjedi: basically you will setup a new sites-available file then use a2ensite to enable the new site (making a symbolic link in sites-enabled) then restart the server with sudo service apache2 restart
[09:44] <wafflejock> unicornjedi: but you should read up on it
[09:44] <jgcampbell300> unicornjedi,  you may want to go to howtoforge and search for just apache ... ispconfig can get complex if you let it
[09:44] <kiwi_> wilee-nilee, i understand ...
[09:45] <wafflejock> unicornjedi: get familiar with your /etc/apache2
[09:45] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: rygel looks promising. Thanks :D
[09:45] <unicornjedi> wafflejock, i got to my /sites-available and there are two files..
[09:45] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: sure thing... yeah I usually watch a lot of netflix and youtube so don't do much streaming and use XMBC for streaming off my NAS when I need it
[09:46] <wafflejock> XBMC always screw that up
[09:46] <pogiako1> i forgot my login in linux mint
[09:47] <DrGrov> Hello. How come in 13.10 the wallpaper for desktop and login screen are sometimes not being the same but some wallpapers set it correctly for both login and desktop?
[09:47] <pogiako1> how do i retrieve it?
[09:47] <pogiako1> 13.10 is still young ;)
[09:48] <wafflejock> holy cow it's late/early
[09:48] <wafflejock> gotta hit the hay g'night all
[09:49] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: thanks a lot friend :)
[09:49] <DrGrov> Is the wallpaper setter in 13.10 somehow acting on instinct and random acts of the Linux god? :P
[09:50] <kenny__> finally i made a fsck on reboot, rebooted my server and my free space is back, somone knows why ?
[09:50] <DrGrov> Apparently I seem to be the only one that has a minor issue with this
[09:52] <yogesh_> hi
[09:56] <solars> hey, does installing laptop mode tools on 13.10 still have a benefit?
[09:58] <dlackdkiwi> hello, it is possible to run console in window on 13.10? how?
[10:00] <duoi> dlackdkiwi: ctrl+T?
[10:00] <duoi> dlackdkiwi: sorry, that's ctrl+alt+t
[10:01] <dlackdkiwi> it's not working
[10:01] <dlackdkiwi> thanks
[10:07] <Zap-W> hi
[10:07] <rampage> hey all ! does anyone know what is the command to launch the "proprietary drivers" gui tool ? i can't find it !
[10:08] <Zap-W> has anyone experienced problems with dual boot win7 and ubuntu where wireless would fail to start when rebooting the computer from win7 to ubuntu, if I replugg the wireless to the usb port it starts working again
[10:08] <wilee-nilee> rampage, there is no  "proprietary drivers" gui tool Do you mean the additional drivers?
[10:08] <rampage> wilee-nilee: yes i think that's it
[10:09] <wilee-nilee> rampage, software-properties-gtk
[10:10] <rampage> yes wilee-nilee that's it ! thanks !!
[10:11] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[10:11] <varunendra> Zap-W, some chips support some advance power saving modes, which become 'bugs' in situations like this. Maybe window is sending the chip into 'suspend' mode before shutting down.
[10:12] <varunendra> *windows
[10:14] <Zap-W> varikonniemi: I see
[10:14] <uncreative> Can anyone offer some help to someone who wants to give ubuntu a try for the first time?
[10:14] <Zap-W> varikonniemi: so how do I revive the wireless chip during ubuntu boot without having to physically replug it to the usb port every time
[10:15] <wilee-nilee> uncreative, What problems are you having?
[10:16] <uncreative> I just want to know, after downloading ubuntu an installing what will happen to the files currently on my computer? Also do I need a cd to download and boot from?
[10:17] <varunendra> Zap-W, unfortunately, if it is indeed what I assumed (sleep mode) there is no other way except a power cycle to reset the chip. And power cycle on USB devices is only possible by physically disconnecting it.
[10:17] <wilee-nilee> uncreative, What is on the computer right now?
[10:18] <Zap-W> varunendra: then how come it works if I reboot into windows again? only not ubuntu
[10:18] <uncreative> Mostly just music files, and a few text documents nothing of real importance and I do believe I've already backed up everything onto an external ssd
[10:19] <Zap-W> then there must be a way
[10:20] <wilee-nilee> uncreative, Ubuntu would go in in a new partition in an unallocated space, so whatever is there is not effected if done correctly, yes you would use a cd or usb to install, you download a ISO to burn or load to the usb.
[10:21] <varunendra> Zap-W, it is a 'feature' that becomes a 'bug' only in some particular situations. The firmware receives the 'suspend' signla from window driver, and then it waits for the 'resume' signal from the same driver. Ubuntu or any other OS can resume it only if it uses the same driver which is practically not possible.
[10:21] <yogesh_> hi there
[10:22] <varunendra> Zap-W, besides, this is only one of many other possible reasons, just the most common one
[10:22] <yogesh_> any body know how to run .apk androied apps on ubuntu without using virtualbox or any vm
[10:22] <uncreative> Wilee-nilee, Ok I have a 16gb usb I will plug in and give it a try, are there applications that I should check out to enhance my experience after booting up ubuntu?
[10:23] <wilee-nilee> yogesh_ You need android to run those I believe.
[10:23] <yogesh_> can all androied apps can run in wine like utility like it runs windows apps
[10:23] <cfhowlett> yogesh_, android isn't linux, linux isn't android.  get the android sdk for linux
[10:23] <Zap-W> varunendra: what are the other reasons? then maybe I can disable this feature in windows when rebooting
[10:23] <wilee-nilee> yogesh_ Never heard of any android apps running in wine.
[10:24] <yogesh_> ok
[10:24] <wilee-nilee> uncreative, It is a full operating system, some install the ubuntu-restricted-extras to get flash and codecs for media.
[10:25] <varikonniemi> Zap-W, you highlight the wrong nick
[10:25] <varunendra> Zap-W, when you reboot into Ubuntu (from Windows), have you checked "rfkill list" ? Does it show the adapter as "Hard blocked"?
[10:25] <wilee-nilee> uncreative, Feel free to ask questions in any area here if needed. ;)
[10:26] <uncreative> Wilee-Nilee thank you very much for taking the time to answer my question. I'll be giving this os a try.
[10:27] <uncreative> questions*
[10:27] <wilee-nilee> uncreative, Cool, enjoy. ;)
[10:27] <Ben64> uncreative: it will run slow from usb or cd, don't think thats how it will be when installed :)
[10:28] <Zap-W_> varunendra: going to try that now
[10:29] <Zap-W_> brb
[10:29] <uncreative> Ben64, I'm not worried about the speed of the install, I'm a man with plenty of time for something that may be better than what I'm currently using. Thanks for the heads up though, I'll make a sandwich.
[10:29] <mrafiq> i always face deadjam using chrome after some time it runs fine.
[10:30] <Ben64> uncreative: i meant if you're going to be testing it out from the cd/usb, since it can run from there
[10:30] <mrafiq> it happens every time whenever i reboot my pc
[10:30] <uncreative> Ben64, OH okay. Still thanks though.
[10:30] <mrafiq> it hangs out during browsing of facebook page
[10:33] <cfhowlett> mrafiq, only on Facebook?  could it be blocked by government in your location?
[10:33] <wilee-nilee> mrafiq, facebook has a a lot of code running, I would install noscript and separate the wheat from the chaffe, that is a FF addon, chrome has a similar flash blocker.
[10:33] <mrafiq> no
[10:34] <mrafiq> how to do that
[10:34] <cfhowlett> mrafiq, I had this issue with sites waiting for platform.twitter to load - blocked in China.  added twitter to adblock - problem solved.
[10:35] <mrafiq> no fb is open in our country
[10:35] <mrafiq> youtube is blocked
[10:36] <cfhowlett> mrafiq, and when facebook and youtube are linked ... as they frequently are ...
[10:36] <dkorzhevin> Huys, please help me with next problem: I have Ubuntu 13.10 and after yesterday's system update i'm unable to login system using lightdm (system just throw me back after entering correct password) i can login in ctrl+alt+f1 console only
[10:36] <Zap-W> varunendra: it isn't blocking
[10:36] <mrafiq> so what to  do
[10:37] <wilee-nilee> dkorzhevin, Was there a kernel update there, and are you running proprietary graphic drivers?
[10:37] <cfhowlett> mrafiq, as wilee-nilee suggested, install noscript and check the code to see what's hangin
[10:37] <varunendra> Zap-W, so does the wifi seem to be active on Ubuntu's part (driver loaded, scanning APs and everything...), just unable to connect to the AP?
[10:37] <dkorzhevin> Seems i use x86-video-ati. so, no any proprietary driver
[10:38] <mrafiq> how to install noscript
[10:38] <dkorzhevin> I simply can't login
[10:38] <cfhowlett> mrafiq, seems to be a chrome add-on .  see the chrome store
[10:39] <wilee-nilee> mrafiq, In firefox its tools-addons-exstensions type it in.
[10:39] <wilee-nilee> mrafiq, Once installed it adds a icon to your panel that has a drop down.
[10:40] <ricky45> Cerca lista Atena
[10:41] <dkorzhevin> I was able to paste log, please look: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6425612/
[10:41] <ricky45> ! cerca la lista dei films
[10:41] <ricky45> !ciao Lista dei films
[10:42] <dkorzhevin> I'm 100% sure i enter correct login and password durring login procedure
[10:42] <dkorzhevin> Because i use same credentials for console login and able to login
[10:42] <cfhowlett> !it|ricky45,
[10:43] <LjL> ricky45: ma ti sembra che sul canale di Ubuntu ci siano i film?
[10:45] <ricky45> come devo fare per cercare la lista dei films grazie
[10:45] <ricky45> darfin
[10:46] <LjL> ricky45, non ne ho la minima idea, ma questa è una rete di software open source, non ha niente a che fare con materiale piratato
[10:46] <Zap-W> varunendra: what tools do I use to see if it's scanning, driver is loaded
[10:47] <umbalumba> hi. i would like to host a ftp server on a windows machine behind a ubuntu machine. i added a ton of iptable prerouting stuff (google told me to do!) and modprobed ip_conntrack_ftp and nf_nat_ftp .. it helped a bit as i can try to connect now; still i get a timeout (first issue was, the connection request was blocked at all). i can connect fine internal (from local-ipA to local-ipB) but not
[10:47] <umbalumba> via my external ip. plz help =)
[10:49] <varunendra> Zap-W, besides the dropdown menu of Network Manager, usually "nm-tool" command shows the detected APs (cached results). The "sudo iwlist scan" command gives more detailed (live) info.
[10:51] <Zap-W> brb
[10:57] <dkorzhevin> Can anyone please help?
[10:58] <cfhowlett> !password|dkorzhevin,
[10:59] <hourlipod32> hi, can someone tell me if this website work : http://www.canalblog.com/ ?
[11:01] <varunendra> dkorzhevin, have you checked the remaining space on the partition? I didn't look at your pastebin link, just pointing out one of many possible reasons when the GUI login fails
[11:01] <wilee-nilee> hourlipod32, appears to be down
[11:01] <cfhowlett> hourlipod32, http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.canalblog.com/
[11:02] <dkorzhevin> Guys, i'm not for got my password
[11:04] <hourlipod32> @wilee-nilee tks
[11:12] <jgcampbell300> can anyone suggest a good manager for a virtulizer ?
[11:13] <amritanshu_RnD> can anyone give a link for cloud image which has got login details of username and password
[11:13] <LjL> err?
[11:13] <amritanshu_RnD> for ubuntu
[11:16] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:20] <akhil_> how can I get shell access to a remote machine if the remote doesn't have ssh-server
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> akhil_  NFS maybe
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> akhil_  do youhave physical access to the remote?
[11:21] <akhil_> MonkeyDust: yes
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> akhil_  then why don't you install opensssh-server on it?
[11:22] <akhil_> MonkeyDust: what if someone else is using it, and I don't want to disturb them.
[11:22] <akhil_> :P
[11:23] <akhil_> I know the root password
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> akhil_  start from the beginning, what is the situation and what do you want to achieve?
[11:24] <akhil_> I want ssh to a another device on my local network
[11:24] <akhil_> but the device doesn't have ssh server
[11:24] <akhil_> so is there any remote login server?  installed by default
[11:24] <linu1> hi i have downloaded eclipse ide for c/c++,i used it for my ubuntu pc,i have create a sample c program, when i try to run it shows me "Launch failed.binary not found" error,how can i solve it
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> akhil_  no, shell is the easiest and most basic way
[11:27] <akhil_> MonkeyDust: by shell you mean ssh?
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> akhil_  yes, ssh means secure shell
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> and bash means bourne again shell
[11:28] <akhil_> MonkeyDust: ok so there's no way I can login without the remote having ssh-server
[11:28] <lvleph> for some reason my user is missing the auto login in setting. I can see it on other users, but not mine.
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> akhil_  ask advice from NSA (joking)
[11:30] <akhil_> :P
[11:36] <dewdgang-frank> hey everyone
[11:37] <dewdgang-frank> quick question, im on a macbook pro with the latest os x and I'd like to run Ubuntu from a SD Card or USB Stick. SD Card would be the best if it's possible. Tried it with a tutorial where I needed to download "rEFIt" and so on.
[11:38] <dewdgang-frank> but after successfull installing ubuntu on my sd card when i hold the option key while booting it only recognizes "rEFIt" to boot. Cant boot my installed ubuntu
[11:38] <dewdgang-frank> any ideas? :(
[11:39] <cfhowlett> dewdgang-frank, refit has been deprecated.  recommendation is "refind"
[11:39] <cfhowlett> !mac
[11:39] <tony67a> salve !list
[11:39] <dewdgang-frank> +_+
[11:40] <dewdgang-frank> ubottu damn thats a big wiki. too many information for not experienced linux users
[11:40] <dewdgang-frank> #_#
[11:42] <dewdgang-frank> cfhowlett Call me dumb but to I really need the refit or refind? Cant I just use the standard that came with my mac? (Holding option key while booting gives a choice to boot from external drives by default on a mac since some mac os version.)
[11:42] <dewdgang-frank> cfhowlett Somehow I feel like theres a way to run Ubuntu from SD Card without refit/refind
[11:43] <cfhowlett> dewdgang-frank, according to the developer, refind is the tool you want.  refit is no longer developed or maintained.  see the wiki / forums.  I'm not a mac user
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> dewdgang-frank  maybe the people in the mac channel know
[11:43] <stress_> hello
[11:43] <dewdgang-frank> MonkeyDust you mean #mac ? Tried to join it in the past, invite only
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> dewdgang-frank  then register first
[11:44] <dewdgang-frank> ok
[11:44] <dewdgang-frank> last question
[11:44] <urielvigilant> Lubuntu 13.10 giving erros installing scanner drivers, why ? This was working on Ubuntu 13.10 ! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6425864/
[11:44] <stress_> anyone here know how to code in html,c, or c++?
[11:44] <dewdgang-frank> while installing Ubuntu 12 just before the installation finished it said that uhm something thats called like "GRUB" or something like that failed to install. didnt write down the exact name. is it important?!
[11:45] <Geo_> dewdgang-frank i think now you can join the mac channel without to register, i me a mac user too and i ve been there
[11:45] <lecoeus> stress_: well html and c++ are essentially the same thing
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> stress_  type /join ##c++ (that's double #)
[11:46] <urielvigilant> no way , sorry my mistake typping dirver namer
[11:46] <urielvigilant> exit
[11:49] <v4nz4m4k> .
[11:51] <v4nz4m4k> PING
[11:51] <v4nz4m4k> PONG
[11:51] <cfhowlett> v4n01, yes we see you
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !ping
[11:53] <kal_> hello
[11:53] <urielvigilant> On Lubuntu 13.10 terminal, trying to install printer driver  it say it needs LSB, but command sudo apt-get install lsb dont work why ?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6425903/
[11:53] <cardiel> im having problem with copying file to either a samba or nfs share with debian as a client.. it hangs after roughly 700mb and i have to kill the process.. is this a bug?
[11:53] <impradeepy> how can we add terminal to launcher?
[11:54] <impradeepy> no icons showing for terminal
[11:54] <Wsl> hello everyone
[11:54] <bekks> cardiel: check source and target for errors
[11:54] <kal_> is there any easy way to fix the BOOTMGR is missing during boot from external device?
[11:54] <guest7h8vuo> can someone assist with a looping login issue?
[11:54] <guest7h8vuo> ive tried many things.  id take the time to list them but im not sure anyone is around
[11:54] <urielvigilant> lsb!
[11:55] <cardiel> bekks: i now the problem is on the clien since it works if im using windows as a client
[11:55] <Wsl> how to make apt-get use proxy  ?
[11:55] <impradeepy> @ kal u using dual boot?
[11:55] <guest7h8vuo> my issue seems similar to http://tinyurl.com/qefhfyc
[11:56] <urielvigilant> It is sudo apt-get install lsb-core ?
[11:56] <Mitizaro> hello there guys!!
[11:56] <Mitizaro> can anyone assist me a bit on a GRUB issue?
[11:57] <kal_> yeah it has vista and windows 7, i just got the laptop and want to install ubuntu at the entire disk, but ...
[11:58] <Wsl> kal_, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-desktop-latest
[12:00] <kal_> Wsl: already done that
[12:00] <Wsl> probably You have done something wrong during installation
[12:01] <kal_> unetbootin
[12:01] <uncle_ben> why do some xscreensavers use root window correctly  and some use the generic image even though it's set to use the root window? when my system was using intel integrated graphics, every xscreensaver set with root window worked, but with nvidia, only some xscreensaver use root window correctly, others don't
[12:01] <urielvigilant> ok, i needed only to do sudo apt-get -f install before lsb work weel to then install printer driver
[12:02] <Wsl> kal_, You dont need unetbootin , you need to burn ubuntu on cd dvd then use it
[12:05] <Teleport> anyone tried a  wireless midikeyboard?(andriod via wifi)
[12:05] <Teleport> or OSC
[12:09] <guest7h8vuo> my issue seems similar to http://tinyurl.com/qefhfyc - can someone assist?
[12:09] <guest7h8vuo> kubuntu 13.04
[12:10] <nick07> hi all, i transfer files form ubuntu 13.10 through a netgear switch to a laptop with freenas installed. Both connected with wire (eth). Still i have 2,2mb/s transfer. This could be higher, anyone any idea?
[12:11] <nick07> it through ssh
[12:11] <BluesKaj> guest7h8vuo. , it's best to state your problem directly rather than posting a url , more ppl will see your problem
[12:11] <nick07> this could be higher right?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> !anyone|Teleport,
[12:13] <arjun> hello
[12:14] <Teleport> hey cfhowlett
[12:14] <Teleport> ok
[12:14] <Guest61996> hello
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> nick07: did you have higher speeds at previous ubuntu?
[12:16] <nick07> this is first try.
[12:16] <nick07> but LAN must be faster tranfer then to an usb stick
[12:16] <Martinjo84> nick07, are you sure you disconnect wifi :D
[12:16] <nick07> yes
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> nick07: maybe the ##networking guys can also help you
[12:17] <nick07> like #ubuntu-networking?
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> nick07: ##networking
[12:18] <SN3> hi, I need to the 32 version of the tool exec for my system. in what package is this tool?
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> !info exec
[12:18] <guest7h8vuo> can someone assist with this issue?  i login successfully in kubuntu 13.04, but it gives me an error with xinit, then back to the login screen.  have remade .profile and .Xauthority and think i set permissions correctly too.
[12:19] <guest7h8vuo> ^^ also i reinstalled xorg
[12:19] <Teleport> I want to make a lan connection via WiFi to my phone(android) ps: my phone could not find ad-hos
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> nick07: dis you try a cable to your nas directly connected to your ubuntu box?
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> guest7h8vuo: maybe the #kubuntu guys might also help you out
[12:22] <Teleport> lotuspsychje any idea?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> Teleport: you have ubuntu installed?
[12:23] <Teleport> lotuspsychje yes
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> Teleport: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[12:25] <Teleport> my phone could not find ad-hos
[12:27] <Ben64> Teleport: you'll need to find some support avenue for your phone, perhaps #android
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> SN3: is this what you need? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man3/exec.3tcl.html
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> SN3: or man exec (in terminal)
[12:35] <irc-5225225> I'm trying to get a list of all packages that need to be upgraded using "apt-get --show-upgraded upgrade", but that just does a normal upgrade. Is there anything else that I need to do? The goal is to get a list of packages with one package per line.
[12:36] <impradeepy> teleport root ur phone to get adhocs signals
[12:37] <Teleport> impradeepy its not root
[12:37] <Teleport> "(
[12:37] <impradeepy> root it  whats the problem?
[12:37] <impradeepy> u using android right?
[12:38] <Teleport> impradeepy personal data
[12:38] <Teleport> right
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> irc-5225225: maybe dpkg got a trick to list, try man dpkg
[12:38] <impradeepy> use backups
[12:38] <Teleport> and dont know how
[12:38] <impradeepy> which model u using?
[12:38] <geirha> irc-5225225: Perhaps you want apt-offline ?
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> lets not talk about android in here please
[12:38] <impradeepy> ok
[12:38] <impradeepy> cheers :)
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> Teleport: go to the channel Ben64 suggested you
[12:39] <irc-5225225> geirha: what do you mean? I don't want to actually upgrade them, I just want a list. Can apt-offline do that?
[12:39] <Teleport> impradeepy check pm
[12:39] <impradeepy> ok
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> irc-5225225: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages
[12:42] <guest7h8vuo> can someone assist with this issue? i login successfully in kubuntu 13.04, but it gives me an error with xinit, then back to the login screen. have remade .profile and .Xauthority and think i set permissions correctly too.
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> guest7h8vuo: it might be interesting to pastebin yoir specific init error in chat mate
[12:43] <jrib> guest7h8vuo: create a fresh new user and see if the issue persists
[12:44] <geirha> irc-5225225: ok, then maybe add -s to your apt-get
[12:44] <dannymichel> Anybody have any idea how to get rid of this border between the title and toolbar? http://d.pr/i/zer2
[12:45] <varunendra> irc-5225225, "dpkg -l"
[12:45] <guest7h8vuo> jrib: yeah ill try that
[12:46] <irc-5225225> varunendra: Problem is that can't tell the diffrence between an installed package and one that needs upgrading.
[12:46] <varunendra> or "dpkg --get-selections", irc-5225225
[12:46] <irc-5225225> varunendra: Same problem with dpkg.
[12:47] <guest7h8vuo> lotuspsychje: true
[12:47] <guest7h8vuo> lotuspsychje: cant get at it at the moment
[12:48] <geirha> irc-5225225: apt-offline set --upgrade list.txt
[12:49] <geirha> irc-5225225: gives you lines like: 'url' package size checksum
[12:50] <irc-5225225> geirha: Does it say if the package needs upgrading?
[12:50] <geirha> irc-5225225: with --upgrade it only lists the ones that it knows needs upgrading (due to a previous apt-get update)
[12:52] <geirha> irc-5225225: awk '{sub(/_.*/,"",$2); print $2}' list.txt   to get just the package names
[12:54] <geirha> irc-5225225: should match what you see from  apt-get upgrade --simulate --show-upgraded
[12:57] <Guest11064> give me a hand
[12:57] <Guest11064>  int i=0;
[12:57] <Guest11064>  if(i%2==0）
[12:57] <Guest11064>      { printf("0");
[12:57] <Guest11064>        i++;
[12:57] <Guest11064>      }
[12:57] <FloodBot1> Guest11064: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:57] <Guest11064>  else
[12:57] <jamesweech> Guest whats up?
[12:57] <roryhughes> My latest project http://imageswaps.tk/ (running on ubuntu)
[13:00] <jamesweech> Hey i installed ubuntu on my chromebook (XFCE) but xchat is TINNY
[13:00] <jamesweech> *TINY
[13:01] <jamesweech> can someone help me resize it? your on what looks to me like 9dpi
[13:01] <irc-5225225> jamesweech: Do you mean all the fonts are really small?
[13:01] <jamesweech> irc-5225225 I fixed all of them but xchat by the looks of it
[13:01] <jamesweech> irc-5225225 but yes 90% of them are tiny, i fixed most with xfce4-settings-manager
[13:01] <jamesweech> i just cant see xchat very well, ill screenshot it in a second
[13:02] <irc-5225225> jamesweech: I belive xchat uses it's own fonts in the settings menu, and settings-manager doesn't affect xchat for some reason
[13:02] <jamesweech> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-11162013-010202pm.php
[13:02] <jamesweech> Oh thank you, i resized it to something bigger haha
[13:03] <jamesweech> i turned up the DPI but that just crippled it :P so i just changed it in the xchat settings, Why am i blind (oh wait its tiny)
[13:03] <duoi> holy crap that is one suspect looking image host
[13:03] <jamesweech> duoi: Sorry its built into XFCE
[13:03] <jamesweech> Thank you
[13:03] <irc-5225225> duoi: Isn't there an option to send to imgur?
[13:03] <Wsl> jamesweech,  alt + F8  will help
[13:04] <jamesweech> its only got the option upload to zimage
[13:04] <jamesweech> sorry about that
[13:04] <jamesweech> but its fixed now haha so dont worry
[13:04] <duoi> jamesweech: no i understand that much, i'm just questioning the reasoning of the developer lol
[13:04] <jamesweech> duoi: So am i, its all french also D:
[13:04] <pd0x\explodes> Hi, are there any good weather apps for ubuntu?  Hard to find one that I know I can trust.
[13:04] <jamesweech> pd0x\explodes Conky?
[13:04] <irc-5225225> duoi: Possibly it has an easier API than anything else?
[13:04] <irc-5225225> duoi: Even though imgur has a great api...
[13:04] <pd0x\explodes> Conky?
[13:05] <jamesweech> ah 1 sec i remembered reading something on omgubuntu
[13:05] <jamesweech> lemme find it :)
[13:05] <irc-5225225> pd0x\explodes: Conky is a system information tool, but you can make it display the weather.
[13:05] <jamesweech> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/gorgeous-new-weather-app-stormcloud-arrives-on-ubuntu
[13:05] <irc-5225225> as well as free disk space/ram/network usage...
[13:05] <pd0x\explodes> ahh
[13:05] <pd0x\explodes> hmm
[13:05] <duoi> irc-5225225 moreso the web address. contained with a subfolder with an awkward filename and php file extension
[13:05] <pd0x\explodes> thanks, I'll check it out
[13:05] <pd0x\explodes> easy to setup?
[13:06] <irc-5225225> pd0x\explodes: Conky or stormcloud?
[13:06] <jamesweech> duoi, Im on ARM linux so im kinda screwed for screenshot apps :P
[13:06] <pd0x\explodes> either ;)
[13:06] <Guest11064> who has free time
[13:06] <jamesweech> me :)
[13:06] <irc-5225225> Conky isn't very easy to set up, but it's a lot more configurable.
[13:06] <Ben64> !arm | jamesweech
[13:06] <irc-5225225> But if you don't really care, go with stormcloud.
[13:06] <jamesweech> I know haha i use it
[13:07] <jamesweech> Im on a ARM ubuntu install
[13:07] <jamesweech> on a chromebook
[13:07] <Guest11064> can you give me a hand
[13:07] <jamesweech> Sure guest
[13:07] <jamesweech> whast wrong
[13:07] <jamesweech> when i press TAB i get a comma after the name like: jamesweech, can i disable that? Sorry i dont use xchat much, normally IRSSI
[13:07] <Ben64> Guest11064: nobody knows until you ask
[13:07] <bekks> jamesweech: irssi has tab completion, too.
[13:07] <Guest11064> i want to print someting in c
[13:07]  * Wsl  a
[13:07] <jamesweech> bekks, I know but i didnt think it added , after then ame
[13:08] <jamesweech> *the name
[13:08] <duoi> jamesweech: you can always just print screen and CTRL+V into http://www.imgur.com. Once I found out you can paste directly into imgur instead of having to save the file and uploading it, i pretty much removed all dependence on the aforementioned archaic method or applications that facilitate the process.
[13:08] <irc-5225225> bekks: It's a : by default.
[13:08]  * Wsl  Much Enemies Less Friends .!.
[13:08] <jamesweech> I will in feature :) duoi
[13:08] <bekks> jamesweech: thats configurable in xchat.
[13:08] <cooljay1983> hello all
[13:08] <jamesweech> bekks: I better look harder :)
[13:08] <pd0x\explodes> hmm
[13:08] <jamesweech> cooljay1983: print ("Hello world")
[13:08] <irc-5225225> jamesweech: I belive : is the most common, I haven't really seen a comma.
[13:08] <pd0x\explodes> can not access PPA...blah blah URL...blah..please check your internet connection
[13:09] <pd0x\explodes> that's for Stormcloud
[13:09] <cooljay1983> iam new to all this linux ubuntu
[13:09] <bekks> pd0x\explodes: Then contact the maintainer - basically PPA arent supported in here.
[13:09] <cooljay1983> only installed yesterday
[13:09] <jamesweech> cooljay1983: Any questions?
[13:09] <jamesweech> irc-5225225: how odd :P Ill dig around,
[13:09] <cooljay1983> james i been googling what i need
[13:09] <jamesweech> Good :)
[13:09] <jamesweech> We always encourage that
[13:09] <cooljay1983> its lot more complicated then windows but seems alot better
[13:10] <gvo> jamesweech: You answered Guest....'s question, but sent it to cooljay
[13:10] <bekks> cooljay1983: Windows was complicated too back when you learned it.
[13:10] <sandeepr> attempting preseed install of 12.04
[13:10] <pd0x\explodes> bekks, k, thanks
[13:10] <jamesweech> gvo: Sorry, i need to sort out things on this xchat so im not concentrating :)
[13:10] <cooljay1983> erm not really windows does everything for you
[13:10] <sandeepr> tasksel tasksel/first multiselect ubuntu-desktop, this line does not seem to have any effect
[13:11] <sandeepr> as it gives cli only
[13:11] <jamesweech> Got my tab fixed thanks :)
[13:11] <jamesweech> sandeepr: How are you installing ubuntu?
[13:11] <jamesweech> sandeepr: Ubuntu server? Ubuntu desktop? etc
[13:11] <sandeepr> jamesweech, ubuntu server
[13:11] <cooljay1983> the command prompt is loads easier too but linux seems alot secuier and seems you can do hell of a lot more
[13:11] <cooljay1983> cant wait to learn it all
[13:12] <cooljay1983> looked on wiki and been learning the terminal commands
[13:12] <sandeepr> jamesweech, i tried ubuntu-desktop. it did not give me the option to hit f6 where i can pass the kernel params
[13:12] <jamesweech> sandeepr: Which desktop environment do you want?
[13:12] <sandeepr> jamesweech, so i used ubuntu-server
[13:13] <sandeepr> jamesweech, unity
[13:13] <Ben64> cooljay1983: do you have a problem with ubuntu? this isn't a chat channel. there is #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion
[13:13] <cooljay1983> thats the one iam using ubuntu desktop
[13:13] <jamesweech> sandeepr: Ok: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[13:14] <sandeepr> jamesweech, i did like to automate it via the preseed file
[13:14] <Guest11064> who know  c language
[13:14] <bekks> Guest11064: The c language channel.
[13:14] <gvo> Guest11064: You may have more success at ##c
[13:18] <gvo> Got very quiet all of a sudden.
[13:18] <compdoc> we're afraid of you
[13:18] <gvo> Oh sure.
[13:19] <plexaglazz> So there is a channel for C-programing?
[13:19]  * compdoc runs for his life
[13:19] <gvo> plexaglazz: Yes ##c
[13:19] <plexaglazz> Many people over there?
[13:19] <gvo> 400+ right now
[13:19] <plexaglazz> Nice!! :)
[13:19] <Guest11064> no body  repond me
[13:19] <bekks> Guest11064: Because this is not a c language channel. :)
[13:20] <gvo> Guest11064 I answered you
[13:20] <plexaglazz> It's not?
[13:20] <jamesweech> Its the ubuntu channel :)
[13:20] <plexaglazz> But you just said i was a C-channel..
[13:20] <plexaglazz> Are you drunk?
[13:20] <plexaglazz> ;)
[13:21] <gvo> plexaglazz: I think you are.  I said the c channel is ##c
[13:21] <plexaglazz> gvo: not you.
[13:21] <Lupus> Hello
[13:21] <plexaglazz> The other drunk guy. hehehe
[13:22] <Lupus> I need help changing thr screen res on my laptop
[13:22] <Lupus> It changed from 1360x768 doen to 1280, and i cant select the 1360 option in the menu
[13:22] <plexaglazz> Well i just love C and have used it as my main lang since 1991
[13:22] <Lupus> And xrandr isnt working as stated in the wiki
[13:22] <g105b> Can anyone give me some advice how to listen to my USB audio input through headphones? I can record the input and listen back in Audacity, but I want to be able to hear the input as it is being recorded. Any ideas?
[13:23] <plexaglazz> When i talk to my wife i say: printf("Get me coffe woman!!\n");
[13:23] <Lupus> I really need a hand with this, i have exams soon and i csnt see my work
[13:24] <plexaglazz> Well off to ##c we go. Have a nice day!! :)
[13:24] <Lupus> Repeat . i need to add the resolution of 1360x768 and xrandr isnt working as stated in  the wiki
[13:28] <jamesweech> Anyway i g2g :) Hope all is wel
[13:28] <jamesweech> *well
[13:30] <Lupus> Anyone actually fucking help in here?
[13:30] <k1l_> Lupus: please dont swear in here. we are all volunteers.
[13:30] <IdleOne> Not with that sort of language
[13:30] <gvo> +1
[13:30] <Lupus> Yes, well - also checking some humans still exist in here
[13:31] <Lupus> And forgive my frustratiob
[13:31] <Lupus> I have exams tomorrow
[13:31] <Lupus> And i can't see my notes
[13:31] <Lupus> So apologies.
[13:31] <bruno_> scheda bluetooth non rilevata ubuntu
[13:31] <k1l_> you could put into a pastebin what commands you tried and what errors came up
[13:32] <gvo> Lupus did you use cvt to generate a modeline?
[13:32] <Lupus> Gvo, yes, BadName error
[13:32] <gvo> From cvt?
[13:33] <Lupus> From the modeline generated by cvt
[13:33] <Lupus> Used in xrandr
[13:33] <ctcb> printing os.path.realpath(__file__) gives me the Folder Hiarchy Name(s) with FILENAME.py on the end, how do change that so it gives me the Folder Hiarchy Name(s) without it?
[13:33] <gvo> Make sure you have it formatted properly.  Can't just ccopy and paste.
[13:33] <Lupus> Why not? Formatting different?
[13:34] <gvo> cvt puts out more info than xrandr wants/needs/
[13:34] <Lupus> Where to cut?
[13:34] <gvo> Pastbin what youve tried as k1l_ suggested
[13:34] <Lupus> The wiki copy pastes, i will do
[13:36] <ctcb> Like right now, printing os.path.realpath(__file__) gives me "/home/ctcb/Dev/Projects/SAGE/SAGE.py", instead I wish it to give me "/home/ctcb/Dev/Projects/SAGE/" so I can dynamically search from it.
[13:37] <Lupus> Paste.ubuntu.com/6426320
[13:37] <Lupus> Thank you
[13:37] <Lupus> Sorry for before
[13:37] <Lupus> Very stressed.
[13:37] <FloodBot1> Lupus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:37] <Lupus> Sorry FlobBot1 ;)
[13:38] <Lupus> *Floodbot
[13:38] <Lupus> Pastebin posted above
[13:39] <gvo> Lupus: Try changing the name to something simple.
[13:39] <Lupus> Will change to "a"
[13:39] <gvo> 1360x768_60.00 to x1260 or something   a is OK
[13:39] <gvo> On the xrandr line, of course.
[13:41] <Lupus> Same error
[13:42] <gvo> Do you have arandr available?
[13:42] <Lupus> No, i shall install
[13:42] <gvo> Just another option.
[13:43] <Lupus> Unable to fetch archives
[13:43] <Lupus> Running off phone wifi, internet down atm.
[13:44] <Lupus> Regrying
[13:45] <gvo> Lupus: Just for the heck of it, try the next step, the xrandr --addmode ...
[13:45] <Lupus> From the wiki?
[13:47] <Lupus> Cant add mode to lvds 1
[13:48] <gvo> Lupus: the more I read, the more I think this is a font issue.
[13:48] <Lupus> Can add to vga, dissconne ted
[13:48] <gvo> Lupus: As the error message seems to indicate and has nothing to do with xrandr directly.
[13:48] <Lupus> It was fine yesterday
[13:48] <Lupus> Updated
[13:48] <Lupus> Then this
[13:49] <Lupus> Good *bleep*ing timing, ubuntu
[13:49] <Rallias> How do I figure out why my network bridge's main interface is getting thrown into disabled state?
[13:49] <gvo> Lupus: Dunno.
[13:49] <Lupus> How can i change the font...
[13:50] <Lupus> Or shd i reinstall
[13:50] <Lupus> Can you refresh
[13:50] <andre> Hi! I installed Ubuntu 13.10 along with Windows 8.1 but GRUB doesn't appear at initialization. Can you help me? UEFI and Legacy mode are disabled in the BIOS.
[13:50] <Nightwalkerkg> Hey,is there a way to install ubuntu alongside windows without a cd or flash drive. I want to install Ubuntu 12.04
[13:50] <Nightwalkerkg> I can't use wubi because if have uefi bios.
[13:50] <Lupus> Nightwalkerkg - make a live USB
[13:50] <Lupus> instructions on wiki
[13:51] <gvo> Lupus Try reinstalling fonts, I guess but your guess is as good as mine.
[13:51] <Lupus> Kjcbsihbdfkdfuhbskdufhvvsdkfugvvdkfugvdskufgsvdlichavdcohsbdofjbsdifnd
[13:51] <Lupus> Not what i wanted to hear, thanks anyway mate
[13:51] <gvo> sorry
[13:51] <Lupus> It was fine literally a day agao
[13:51] <Lupus> Dw
[13:52] <Nach0z> Nightwalkerkg: if you're a bad@$$ you can try dd'ing the ubuntu installer ISO to a new partition on your hard drive, and run the installer from there, and just remove it when the install's done
[13:52] <Lupus> Going to try restart with internet
[13:52] <Lupus> It happens to the bios as well...
[13:53] <Lupus> As in the GRUB loader is in weird resolution too - i dual boot win8 and salamander
[13:53] <Lupus> Even liveUSB boots to this res
[13:53] <Lupus> Wtf is going on...
[13:53] <patagonicus> Hi there. Trying to get the 32bit Binding of Isaac running on my 64bit Ubuntu 13.10. It complains about a missing libssl3.so and neither libssl1.0.0:i386 nor libssl0.9.8:i386 seem to fix that. Any ideas?
[13:53] <Rallias> Nightwalkerkg, If you use an EFI bootloader, you can modify the bootloader to add grub and have grub boot the mini.iso file.
[13:53] <Lupus> Thanks gvo, im leabing now
[13:54] <Rallias> patagonicus, Are you running the version out of humble bundle?
[13:54] <patagonicus> Rallias: I bought it on the Humble Store yesterday, I'm guessing its the same version. No swf version for download, though, only 32bit executables.
[13:55] <Rallias> patagonicus, Do they still offer the ubuntu-store links?
[13:55] <Danato> guys did anybody try to download and install the image of ubuntu 13.10 from ubuntu website?
[13:56] <patagonicus> Rallias: I don't see any links, just steam key (which I activated before seeing that the Linux version isn't on Steam) and direct downloads.
[13:56] <Danato> because I tried to install it on a vm on 2 computers and im getting a weird error
[13:56] <patagonicus> brb
[13:57] <Danato> it says "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
[13:58] <Rallias> patagonicus, Did it give you a .deb to install?
[13:59] <Rallias> I appologize if this sounds messy... I know there's way too many different distribution methods for humble bundle and it's a complete and utter mess.
[14:00] <Eagleman> Why can i access other people's samba shares, i am currently in these groups: user01 : user01 adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare media libvirtd
[14:03] <compdoc> other people's samba shares?
[14:04] <compdoc> on other PCs?
[14:04] <Eagleman> compdoc on the same server
[14:05] <valderrama> hy
[14:05] <xsky> hi
[14:05] <valderrama> !list
[14:06] <compdoc> Eagleman, youre trying to access them over the LAN?
[14:06] <Eagleman> yes compdoc
[14:06] <ziluc> Hi all !!
[14:07] <xsky> hehe
[14:07] <hedkandi> hello
[14:07] <ziluc> Hi!!!
[14:07] <hedkandi> I have a problem with installing libnss3
[14:08] <hedkandi> on ubuntu 12.04.3
[14:08] <irc-5225225> /buffer 3
[14:08] <Eagleman> compdoc here is some more information: http://lpaste.net/1131872995170582528
[14:08] <hedkandi> it looks like it's trying to install libnss3 version 11 and version 12 is the only one in the repository so it fails
[14:09] <hedkandi> how can I get an old version of libnss3?
[14:09] <andre> Hi! I will install Ubuntu 13.10 along with Windowss 8.1. If after I install Ubuntu 13.10 I install GRUB, GRUB will appear with this 2 OS options at initialization?
[14:09] <hedkandi> are there different repositories for 12.04.1, 12.04.2 and 3?
[14:09] <krz> after downloading. where should i normally keep files like this: http://aws.amazon.com/code/6752709412171743
[14:09] <krz> its a command line tool
[14:09] <krz> but where is a good place to store it?
[14:10] <krz> in /lib?
[14:10] <krz> in /etc?
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | andre
[14:11] <compdoc> Eagleman, has your username been created on the server? also, there are permissions on the directories themselves
[14:11] <Eagleman> compdoc here is some more information: http://lpaste.net/1131872995170582528
[14:11] <Eagleman> about the directories and smb.conf
[14:12] <krz> well?
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> someone knows anti-steal software for latops on ubuntu? like email notfication at boot or something
[14:13] <krz> in ~ ?
[14:14] <compdoc> Eagleman, guess I dont understand why there are links to the directories
[14:14] <krz> where do CLI executables normally get stored???
[14:14] <Eagleman> compdoc well i dont think that can be the problem
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> !patience | krz
[14:15] <krz> is it fine to create it in /usr/local?
[14:15] <xsky> a blog app write in C++ https://github.com/0xsky/xblog
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> !info prey
[14:17] <compdoc> Eagleman, do you know that "write list = @jrpoot" means the group jrpoot?
[14:17] <Eagleman> compdoc but the user robin is not in the group jrpoot, so why can robin access the jrpoot folder?
[14:18] <gvo> krz normally in /usr/local/bin
[14:18] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje. seems that tutorial needs some updating to include machines using UEFI instead of the older BIOS
[14:18] <patagonicus> Rallias: Yep, .tar.gz with a single file, rpm I haven't looked at + 64bit and 32bit deb. However, the debs only contain a 32bit executable and some desktop files and depend on ia32-libs which doesn't exist anymore.
[14:18] <Danato> what kind of setting on virtualbox can cause it to detect my CPU as i686 instead of x64???
[14:18] <compdoc> robin is in sambashare
[14:18] <Eagleman> compdoc what does sambashare do?
[14:18] <Rallias> patagonicus, Try installing the 32-bit deb and do an apt-get -f install
[14:18] <compdoc> seems a little convoluted to me
[14:18] <ziluc> Hi all, i've installed ubuntu 13.12 and now my pc is booting correctly, why?
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: yes i know, but his question was more to know if grub would show both Os
[14:19] <krz> how do i know which version of python i have installed
[14:19] <Rallias> ziluc, You mean 13.10?
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: i also tryed to submit new trigger info, but never been fixxed..
[14:19] <ziluc> Rallias: of course, sorry
[14:20] <xangua> ziluc: congrats
[14:20] <patagonicus> Rallias: That did pull in some additional libs (pango, xft), but no ssl. Same error message.
[14:20] <Danato> huh has anybody here tried to install ubuntu on virtualbox?
[14:20] <Rallias> Danato, Do you have it set to Ubuntu or Ubuntu (64 bit)?
[14:21] <krz> when i do EXPORT. where does it store the config file again?
[14:21] <Danato> Rallias: are you talking about the vb settings?
[14:21] <Rallias> Danato, Yes.
[14:21] <krz> thanks gvo . i put it in /usr/local/aws/
[14:22] <compdoc> Eagleman, youre using older lines in smb.conf I think. heres one of mine:  http://lpaste.net/95754
[14:22] <Danato> Rallias: thats a great question, it answered everything :P thanks
[14:23] <compdoc> or use:    valid users = @groupname
[14:24] <compdoc> and of course the users need to exist on the server with matching passwords to the users connecting
[14:25] <msi> My server just got hacked, I can see ssh connection succesfull, anything I can do?
[14:25] <compdoc> dont open the ssh port to the world would be a good start
[14:26] <compdoc> and dont enable the root account
[14:26] <patagonicus> Use SSH-Keys and disable password auth.
[14:26] <makara> msi, download all your essential data and start again
[14:27] <compdoc> lol
[14:27] <k1l_> since you cant know what the "hacker" did make a fresh reinstall with new passwords and use key-login instead
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> msi: there is a tool for anti ssh intrusion, forget its name
[14:27] <makara> msi, i'm serious
[14:27] <makara> what's on your server?
[14:27] <buu> Hey, where are the xfce4 style "do this on startup" scripts stored?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje. ok , thanks for trying
[14:28] <msi> the server is not booting anymore
[14:28] <buu> Like settings -> user login -> do on start
[14:28] <msi> missing filesystems
[14:28] <makara> msi, did you turn it off. You shouldn't turn off a compromised system
[14:28] <msi> it rebooted
[14:28] <k1l_> msi: make a new install
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> !info denyhosts | msi
[14:29] <compdoc> fail2ban
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> compdoc: tnx, didnt know about that one
[14:30] <msi> yeah but it happend from inside my local network
[14:30] <msi> looks like it came from the wifi
[14:30] <compdoc> thats not good
[14:30] <makara> msi, http://askubuntu.com/questions/151440/important-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-server
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> msi: snort and rkhunter might help you aswell
[14:31] <compdoc> if you run mysql, you should run mysql_secure_installation too
[14:31] <ubuntuaddicted> i am trying to unmount a USB ext HDD but it says it's busy. I tried running lsof but it doesn't show what's accessing it. How else can find out what's accessing it so I stop that to unmount the drive?
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuaddicted: did you transfer files to it?
[14:32] <makara> msi, that's for next time. What stage are you at now?
[14:32] <msi> stage?
[14:33] <patagonicus> Argh, libssl is part of libnss3. *sigh*
[14:33] <makara> msi, disconnect hacker > make alternative server arrangements > backup data > investigate how he got in > ...
[14:34] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, not recently
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> ubuntuaddicted  fuser -m [mountpoint]
[14:35] <makara> > chat with friends on irc
[14:35] <ubuntuaddicted> MonkeyDust, returns nothing
[14:35] <compdoc> makara had a point - once someone logs in, they can install anything and gain access again later
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> hmm seems like the package 'prey' uses webbased to track devices, any other anti-theft packages for ubuntu?
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> ubuntuaddicted  try with sudo
[14:35] <patagonicus> Well, now Binding of Isaac starts but I have no sound. :/
[14:36] <jost> Is there a way to give certain files execution permissions on an NTFS file system, even if the global permissions on that partition are set to 0644?
[14:36] <jost> Or do I need to change the permissions for the whole file system and then remount it?
[14:36] <ubuntuaddicted> MonkeyDust, nothing still
[14:36] <msi> makara, just wiping the drives right now, 3 passees
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> jost, ubuntu on ntfs?
[14:37] <ubuntuaddicted> normally it's a recording disk for mythtv but i stopped mythtv
[14:37] <ubuntuaddicted> it's also a backup drive for some database's but the backups arent scheduled to run anymore for the day
[14:37] <jost> MonkeyDust: one partition on NTFS... and on that partition there is a git repo that does not execute its commit-hook since it has 0644 permissions
[14:37] <patagonicus> ubuntuaddicted: NFS share, maybe? Those are not listed in fuser, I think.
[14:39] <impradeepy> ubuntuaddicted post ur  ls -l /media
[14:39] <danes123> hello, the instructions to install ubuntu in tablet tf700 have broken links https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/tf700t. Are developers aware of this? Are there new instructions to install ubuntu on the transformer 700 tablet?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> !touch | danes123
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> jost  "NTFS doesn't support the execute permission because it's designed for Windows, which doesn't have the same concept of "executable" files as Linux does."
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> exe's are scary
[14:40] <impradeepy> ??
[14:41] <moppy> impradeepy, It's part of his religion. Their holy book disapproves of exes
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> religion is scary ;)
[14:41] <impradeepy> hmm
[14:41] <impradeepy> no comments
[14:41] <jost> MonkeyDust: Ok, I'll just remount the whole file system with 744... don't like it that every single file is deemed executable, but if thats what it takes... :(
[14:42] <impradeepy> i just wanna see rwx permissions thats i
[14:42] <impradeepy> it
[14:42] <ctcb> printing os.path.realpath(__file__) or using it as a variable gives me the Folder Hiarchy Name(s) with FILENAME.py on the end, how do change that so it gives me the Folder Hiarchy Name(s) without it? Like right now, os.path.realpath(__file__) gives me "/home/ctcb/Dev/Projects/SAGE/SAGE.py", instead I wish it to give me "/home/ctcb/Dev/Projects/SAGE/" so I can dynamically search from it.
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> jost  or backup, change ntfs to ext4
[14:43] <moppy> jost, you can do posix permissions on ntfs but it is hard to set up
[14:43] <ubuntuaddicted> patagonicus, yeap, duh me. that must be it
[14:43] <mzaza> I am writing a c++ program which calls a shell command and execute it with arguments. I use the command system("top"), how can I send a variable as an attribute to the commands. For example, system("ls -variable)?
[14:43] <ubuntuaddicted> patagonicus, thanks!
[14:43] <moppy> jost i think there is something you need? ntfs-4g? google will know. but it can do permissions on ntfs. it's just a pain
[14:43] <mzaza> while variable is defined as string in my c++ code
[14:44] <lecoeus> ctcb: os.path.dirname
[14:44] <jost> MonkeyDust: moppy: I think I'll change to ext4 sometime, and then use a third party driver to access that partition from windows... Planned that already, but was to lazy to actually do that
[14:45] <dustinspringman> 13.10, second monitor is showing as "connected" in xrandr, but.... I get no video.. I've googled for days.. not sure what to look at next.. xrandr --output --cmd does nothing..
[14:45] <lecoeus> mzaza: string concatenation?
[14:45] <mzaza> lecoeus: right, thanks :)
[14:50] <widad> hello everyone please i need help. i want an application that can read (in frensh) for me pdf format
[14:50] <widad> hello everyone please i need help. i want an application that can read (in frensh) for me pdf format  can anyone help me plz?
[14:51] <impradeepy> widad google it
[14:51] <widad> impradeepy, i already did but didn't find anything
[14:51] <Danato> widad: i think it would be easier to ask that on the french ubuntu channel
[14:52] <cWiden> happy #caturday
[14:52] <Danato> !fr
[14:52] <Guest80745> logged in as guest into kubuntu earlier, large files in /tmp directory i may need to delete.  now logged into livecd kubuntu, what directory contains the guest user files?
[14:52] <impradeepy> ok
[14:53] <widad> Danato, yes i know but i was hoping to find one in here
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[14:57] <danes123> is there nsa spyware running on ubuntu? It feels like the newer distributions are getting slower on laptops about 3-4 years old
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[14:58] <dewdude> Need a little bit of help. I want to set up PPTPd on my 12.04 machine so I can connect to it from outside the network and access resources on my LAN. In the conf; it talks about local IP...does this need to be a different IP than the server's actual local IP; or do i set that to the servers local IP address
[14:59] <widad> hello everyone please i need help. i want an application that can read (in multiple languages) for me pdf format  can anyone help me plz?
[14:59] <Guest80745> what is the default guest password for kubuntu 13.04
[14:59] <lecoeus> widad: there are many pdf readers
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[15:00] <moppy> widad, Ubuntu comes with a pdf reader ... what does it not read?
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[15:01] <jackarg> Hi, i'd like some help concerning playing dvds on an old mac mini that I rebooted with linux. I managed to have players like totem recognize it, but now for every player there's an error. Totem says: "totem cannot play this type of media (dvd) because it does not have the appropriate plugins to be able to read from disc"
[15:01] <widad> moppy, i want to read oraly not just reading  by myself
[15:01] <moppy> widad you want text-to-speech?
[15:01] <widad> moppy, yes
[15:02] <bunduru> hello
[15:02] <moppy> widid i dont know: you might have to extract the text first? anyway if google "TTS" and "text to speech" that might work. Those 2 phrases are the specific name of the thing you're after
[15:03] <jackarg> vlc says " DVDRead could not read block x" with x being a different value, usually 0, 2, and so on. any help? (this happens when playing a dvd)
[15:04] <moppy> jackarg, did you load the multimedia restricted codecs, etc? is this 13.10?
[15:04] <lecoeus> widad: okular has text-to-speech but i don't think it supports other languages
[15:04] <lecoeus> though it just might
[15:04] <lecoeus> other than that, pdftotext pdffile.pdf | whatever your favorite text to speech program
[15:05] <jackarg> moppy, i installed everything, yea. dunno about loading though? No, this is a distro called peppermint, and it's completely based on 12.04. I know I should go to peppermint irc but i'm sure people can find a solution here too...
[15:06] <IdleOne> jackarg: actually, no. you should ask the peppermint channel. We don't know what they changed or didn't.
[15:06] <lecoeus> jackarg: are you sure dvd is not damaged?
[15:06] <bunduru> i'm having some problems with ubuntu the computer never shuts downs, searched about this, no workaround worked so far
[15:06] <vibhavp> /part
[15:06] <vibhavp> oops
[15:07] <jackarg> IdleOne, I've tried and peppermint NEVER answers. lecoeus it's not, I've tried with 3
[15:07] <moppy> bunduru, at what point does it hang?
[15:08] <IdleOne> jackarg: that doesn't make it ok to come here asking about a distro we don't support. Please use their support channel/forums.
[15:08] <bunduru> and my wireless interface was acting a bit crazy don't know if it has anything to do with that, yesterday i was able to connect normally and today it wouldn't connect but now it is working
[15:08] <moppy> jackarg, 12.04 used to use medibuntu, i dont know what the current status of that is. i known libdvdcss went to videolan
[15:08] <BluesKaj> bunduru open a terminal and run sudo halt , to shut your machine down
[15:08] <bunduru> moppy, at the splash
[15:09] <bunduru> i have to hold the power button down to completely power down
[15:09] <moppy> bunduru, press Escape to cancel it.s ee if there is an error displaued
[15:09] <moppy> bunduru, i am guessing it's acpi but can't say for sure until there is some kind of error trace
[15:09] <jcrubino> how do I add add-apt-repository command to minimal install?
[15:10] <moppy> jcrubino, edit /etc/apt-sources i think. you;d hve to check the filename (with ls or something(
[15:10] <jackarg> moppy, yea I fixed this problem (thanks to people from this channel IdleOne) so I now have libdvdcss, at least I think so. Otherwise, could you or anyone else recommend a up to date distro that I can use to run XBMC? And remember this is an old mac, so lightweight if possible?
[15:10] <bunduru> BluesKaj, i would like to do it normally without cli
[15:10] <moppy> jcrubino, /etc/apt/sources.list, i think
[15:11] <IdleOne> jackarg: I'm happy you got the problem solved.
[15:11] <jcrubino> moppy: just to add the command?  Isn;t there a package I can apt-get install ?
[15:11] <moppy> jcrubino, sudo add-apt-repository?
[15:11] <bunduru> moppy, i think i recall there is no error.. last line is something like ...shutting down
[15:12] <jcrubino> moppy: yes
[15:12] <BluesKaj> bunduru. yes , but if needed you can use that command until the problem is fixed or goes away ,  updating and upgrading willl usually solve most annoying problems like yours
[15:12] <TheBoss> Hi there, new to irc and ubuntu. I just booted up my udoo :-)
[15:12] <moppy> udoo?
[15:12] <TheBoss> it's a raspberry like board
[15:13] <TheBoss> but more powerful and it packs an arduino too
[15:13] <moppy> ok, cool
[15:13] <TheBoss> i have a question about screen resolution, would this be the right channel
[15:13] <moppy> bunduru, have you tried 'sudo shutdown -H 0' .. it might be a small h
[15:14] <moppy> bunduru, also perhaps go down a runlevel and see if it shuts down from there. but really i think it's an acpi issue with the power management firmware
[15:14] <jcrubino> moppy sudo add-apt repository yields "unable to locate add-apt-repository" error
[15:14] <mzaza> lecoeus: http://ideone.com/uppZ0o
[15:14] <mzaza> lecoeus: Any C++ magic :D ?
[15:15] <jackarg> Let me just repeat: Can anyone recommend an light distro for an old mac mini that I can use XBMC with?
[15:15] <moppy> jcrubino, i dunno what's broken, i would just add repos manually to etc/apt/sources.list
[15:16] <guest324234> trying to login, but see 'xinit: connection to x server lost' just after 'Loading extension AMDXVBA'.  i can create a second user account and there is not this issue.  suggestions?
[15:16] <bunduru> BluesKaj, from my search i saw people having these kind of issues since 2010, i've had ubuntu in this pc before and it did power down normally
[15:16] <lexx_koto> PowerPC Mac mini?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> bunduru. have you updated and upgraded lately ?
[15:17] <bunduru> moppy, from cli the command poweroff that i usually use doesn't only the "halt -something" does
[15:18] <jcrubino> moppy: for future refefernce its the base ubuntu install from docker
[15:18] <bunduru> BluesKaj, yes i did, but after i ended up re-installing ubuntu
[15:18] <jcrubino> moppy: I think its the add-apt-repository command is not on the minimal ubuntu images and I just do not know what package it is in
[15:21] <tahitibob> salut
[15:21] <ubuntuaddicted> when I plug in an android tablet into my xubuntu machine, nothing happens. nothing even appears in dmesg. is there some packages I need to install to interface with it?
[15:22] <lecoeus> mzaza: hey
[15:23] <guest324234> what is the name of the application/service that should be disabled in ubuntu to increase security, i'd recognize the name
[15:23] <lecoeus> it seems system function wants old fashioned char arrays whereas the string of c++ is basically a class of its own just typedef'd
[15:23] <guest324234> for networking
[15:23] <mzaza> lecoeus: This is the C++ code, working fine
[15:23] <mzaza> lecoeus: http://pastebin.com/LjfA66XX
[15:23] <bunduru> BluesKaj, so i guess that could be something wrong with Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[15:23] <lecoeus> try using not using strings
[15:23] <mzaza> lecoeus: This is the shell code, not working fine :D http://pastebin.com/th1u3x88
[15:24] <GuybrushThreepwo> Does anyone here have experience with skype for linux?
[15:24] <lecoeus>  does system(command.c_str());  work?
[15:24] <Krenair> Hi. I'm trying to use system-config-printer to change a printer's colour mode. I right click on the printer, go to properties, Job Options, and under Other Options (Advanced) is 'print-color-mode' with a 'color'/'monochrome' dropdown
[15:25] <Krenair> however when I select monochrome and apply, exit the dialog and return to it, it's back to color
[15:26] <bunduru> moppy, it is a old computer, the poweroff command worked before now the halt command works, so why cant the gui do it :s
[15:27] <jajal> hhhh
[15:30]  * dewdude_ gives up
[15:32] <guest324234> what is the name of the network application/service that should be disabled in ubuntu to increase security, i'd recognize the name.  there's a file where one line needs to be commented out i think.  havent found this again on google
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> dewdude  give up what?
[15:33] <dewdude> I'm trying to set up a PPTP tunnel on my linux machine so I can get to my LAN from the internet
[15:33] <mohit> I am trying to install the drivers for Ralink RT5390 using the instructions found here -> http://pastebin.ca/2476543 but when i try to make , the result is an error shown here -> http://pastebin.ca/2476542 . I have figured out that the error is in pci_main_dev.c but I dont understand how to resolve it. Can someone help me
[15:33] <dewdude> so i can access file shares and sometimes get around lousy routing on public Wifi
[15:33] <vibhavp> 2h left :(
[15:33] <dewdude> but i can't seem to get pptpd to work; i just need to spend a few hours reading on what's involved
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> dewdude  pptp, that's also related to pxe, wait
[15:34] <andrerics> Hi! I installed Ubuntu 13.10 along with WIndows 8.1 but GRUB is not appearing at initiallization. Now I reenter the Try Ubuntu option and my Ubuntu 13.10 installation appear as 94 GB Volume. I think that if i reinstall GRUB will help.
[15:34] <bunduru> so guys  it can only be done from the cli?!
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> dewdude  is this useful? not exactly what you want, but maybe it helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[15:35] <SchrodingersScat> dewdude: pptpd was the easiest for me to setup, I think there is a ubuntu setup: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> dewdude  sorry, wrong link
[15:37] <bunduru> brb
[15:37] <SchrodingersScat> dewdude: and by "restart your server" i THINK they mean 'service pptpd restart' I don't think they mean full server reboot :/
[15:37] <dewdude> i realize that
[15:37] <andrerics> Hi! I installed Ubuntu 13.10 along with WIndows 8.1 but GRUB is not appearing at initialization. Now I reenter the Try Ubuntu option and my Ubuntu 13.10 installation appear as 94 GB Volume. I think that if i reinstall GRUB will help.Can you help me
[15:37] <dewdude> the problem is I never see ppp0 show up in ifconfig and windows refuses to connect
[15:37] <andrerics> Can you help me?
[15:37] <dewdude> i'm trying to do something quickly
[15:38] <dewdude> i need to wait till i have more time
[15:38] <andrerics> Hi! I installed Ubuntu 13.10 along with WIndows 8.1 but GRUB is not appearing at initialization. Now I reenter the Try Ubuntu option and my Ubuntu 13.10 installation appear as 94 GB Volume. I think that if i reinstall GRUB will help. Can you help me?
[15:39] <ironfoot495> Hello everyone I need help figuring out how to install and use utorrent. IU just can't seem to understand the concept???
[15:39] <ironfoot495> I have a ubuntu 12.04.3
[15:39] <SchrodingersScat> ironfoot495: I think you misspelled rtorrent
[15:40] <ironfoot495> SchrodingersScat: is it rtorrent I've been trying utorrent?
[15:41] <SchrodingersScat> ironfoot495: ok, I see that utorrent has a server for ubuntu, what concept aren't you getting?
[15:42] <ironfoot495> SchrodingersScat: Itried using it and I can't get a single movie?
[15:42] <jajal> test
[15:43] <ironfoot495> SchrodingersScat: I foollowed an instaslltion example and now all I have is a big mess. Is there away that is simple?
[15:44] <ironfoot495> or less messy I have files everyehere now that just don't work.
[15:44] <SchrodingersScat> ironfoot495: that's why I recommended something with freedom.
[15:44] <lecoeus> ironfoot495: did you install it with apt-get?
[15:44] <ironfoot495> lecoeus: yes I did.
[15:45] <lecoeus> ironfoot495: i have never used utorrent but it must work the same way as any other torrent client
[15:46] <lecoeus> did you use other clients?
[15:46] <DarthDepa> Hi guys :)
[15:46] <SchrodingersScat> lecoeus: I don't think he could have used apt, the site just has a tar.gz
[15:46] <ironfoot495> Well I've used bittorrent and I see something happening but I don't have control of it it just setsd there.
[15:47] <DarthDepa> I have an ASUS notebook... K53S series... I would like to optimize the use of battery!
[15:48] <wildwind> DarthDepa: use powertop
[15:48] <bunduru> back
[15:48] <ironfoot495> SchrodingersScat: yes I used the tat file and at first I got the gui but because it just sat there I deleted it and started over and now it doesn't work at all.
[15:49] <DarthDepa> wildwind: thanks :) I will check...
[15:49] <ironfoot495> tar file
[15:49] <DarthDepa> and why SUDO don't allow me to use TAB?
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[15:49] <lecoeus> ironfoot495: it is usually better to use software from repositories
[15:50] <lecoeus> there must be many torrent clients in the software center like transmission
[15:50] <ironfoot495> lecoeus: ok I'll try that thanks.
[15:50] <SchrodingersScat> ironfoot495: Usage:  utserver -settingspath -logfile -configfile -pidfile -daemon -usage
[15:51] <DarthDepa> wildwind: with powertop I can see who use battery... and for optimization?
[15:53] <wildwind> DarthDepa: well it depends on who is it :)
[15:53] <bunduru> My computer doesn't power off from cli or gui, in addition to the workarounds which didn't work, i've tried the poweroff and halt commands but those won't power down the pc.
[15:56] <bunduru> any tips?
[15:56] <iderik> I dont understand how my harddrive is partitioned. Shouldnt /home be there? http://www.n0.se/f/f/24169_screenshotfrom2013-11-16165324.png
[15:56] <irc-5225225> iderik: /home doesn't need to be on a seperate partition.
[15:57] <DarthDepa> wildwind: ?
[15:57] <irc-5225225> it can be, but it's not required.
[15:57] <varunendra> DarthDepa, use left arrow key in powertop  to goto lasttab, then 'Enter' to set status of various settings to 'Good'
[15:58] <harushimo> quick question
[15:58] <harushimo> I want to be able write to my other hard drive
[15:58] <iderik> irc-5225225: ah ok. why cant i resize any partition? i wish to free some space.
[15:58] <harushimo> but when I look in my media directory on the terminal, it doesn't show up but I can see it on my devices list when I look into gui interface
[15:59] <wildwind> DarthDepa: i don't have much exp with power optimization. but let us see the powertop output.
[15:59] <irc-5225225> iderik: You can't resize a partition that is in use by the system.
[15:59] <harushimo> do I keep it mounted
[15:59] <irc-5225225> iderik: If you have a live usb/cd, you can resize when booting from that.
[16:01] <nightwalkerkg> Hi,i am runing Ubuntu 13.10 and Firefox,when i open it it gives me a message that i need to install flesh,when i click install it opens a new windows and tells me that there are no plugins to be installed. But when i open a video on youtube it works. Also,animations are kinda lagy,i really want to avoid installing any drivers for GPU,i had some problems in the past with them. There are three options in additional drivers. Is th
[16:01] <nightwalkerkg> have to install drivers.
[16:01] <varunendra> harushimo, no partition will show up in /media until mounted.
[16:02] <harushimo> that is what I thought
[16:02] <irc-5225225> nightwalkerkg: On youtube, it might be using the HTLM5 player.
[16:02] <harushimo> thank you
[16:02] <irc-5225225> *html5
[16:02] <iderik> irc-5225225: hmm, ok. thanks for the help!
[16:02] <varunendra> np :)
[16:02] <nikolam_> hi, Skype is saying to me: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[16:02] <nikolam_> I would like to use camera with skype
[16:02] <GuybrushThreepwo> Does anyone here have experience with skype for linux? I'm having trouble accessing my past conversation history, since it seems to disappear unlike windows
[16:03] <nikolam_> I loaded skype like this before: #!/bin/bash
[16:03] <nikolam_> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype
[16:03] <nikolam_> and it used to work
[16:03] <nikolam_> and now not
[16:03] <harushimo> I have the drive mounted but I want to keep it mounted and be able to write data to that drive
[16:03] <nightwalkerkg> irc-5225225: Yeah i thought of that. So should i install restricted ?
[16:04] <lecoeus> nikolam_: i don't know the answer to your question, but why do you preload stuff in the first place?
[16:04] <varunendra> harushimo, then you need to add an 'fstab' entry for the partition.
[16:04] <nikolam_> lecoeus, to be able to use web cam?
[16:04] <DarthDepa> varunendra: done ;) thanks
[16:04] <lachitha> help me solve my wifi problem
[16:04] <nikolam_> It used to be only way to use web cam with skype before
[16:05] <harushimo> I was trying to avoid fstab if possible
[16:05] <harushimo> alright
[16:05] <harushimo> I need to back up my settings and then I can mess around that file
[16:05] <lecoeus> nikolam_: skype works without ld_preload for most people
[16:05] <irc-5225225> harushimo: what's wrong with fstab?
[16:05] <wildwind> harushimo: you can have it auto-mounted by adding a line to /etc/fstab. btw what fs is on that drive?
[16:05] <varunendra> !fstab | harushimo
[16:05] <lecoeus> but maybe that library you are trying to preload got moved due to an update
[16:06] <nikolam_> lecoeus, oh, if that is new behaviour
[16:06] <harushimo> wildwind: ext4
[16:06] <lecoeus> nikolam_: it's not new, maybe you had an exceptional situational with your webcam
[16:06] <syrious> Is there an easy sudo command for installing utorrent in 13.10??
[16:07] <nikolam_> dunno, it is Bus 002 Device 003: ID 093a:2608 Pixart Imaging, Inc. PAC7311 Trust WB-3300p webcam
[16:07] <bekks> syrious: sudo apt-get install utorrent
[16:07] <syrious> bekks: tried that, returned that it couldn't find the file
[16:07] <wildwind> harushimo: then why it's not in fstab already? :) is it external drive?
[16:07] <bekks> syrious: then utorrent isnt in the official repos.
[16:08] <harushimo> no its not external
[16:08] <harushimo> its an internal drive
[16:08] <nikolam_> I needed to rotate video, btw in v4l2ucp
[16:08] <bekks> harushimo: Then it belongs to fstab
[16:08] <lecoeus> nikolam_: try running it without preloading
[16:08] <harushimo> i know
[16:08] <nikolam_> lecoeus, same.
[16:08] <harushimo> before I do that, I have another question for all of you
[16:08] <lecoeus> nikolam_: if that doesn't work, try finding the library in the same directory
[16:09] <harushimo> why does my second hard drive show up like this 1b477a91-8d58-4de0-8bd9-e72cc618a168 in my media directory
[16:09] <varunendra> syrious, last time I tried utorrent on Ubuntu, I found it to be too CPU intensive. You should try a native solution
[16:09] <bekks> harushimo: Because thats the UUID of the filesystem on your drive.
[16:09] <varunendra> harushimo, because you haven't assigned it a 'LABEL'
[16:09] <syrious> bekks: fair. figured I'd give it a shot at lease
[16:09] <harushimo> I used UUID and associated with an label
[16:10] <harushimo> that goes in the fstab correct?
[16:10] <wildwind> i connect to the internet via openvpn over ppp (3G usb modem). sometimes 3g gets stalled and i have to physically disconnect and reconnect the modem. then i have to wait for ppp to go up and restart openvpn client. to automate the last part, i put a script with "pkill -USR1 openvpn" in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d. it works. here comes my question: is it the good way to do it? do i miss some drawbacks?
[16:10] <syrious> varunendra: any suggestions?
[16:11] <varunendra> syrious, I personally use ktorrent. Not as advanced as utorrent, but works for me
[16:11] <mazda01> switching to a larger hdd. want to switch from msdos to gpt, what's the best way? was going to use clonezilla to clone the / and /home partitions to an image, then restore them to the new gpt partitions on the larger drive. will that work?
[16:11] <SchrodingersScat> syrious: I like rtorrent, but you can run `apt-cache search torrent.client | more` and get a list
[16:11] <varunendra> syrious, perhaps qtorrent is another (maybe better) option
[16:12] <varunendra> syrious, +1 to SchrodingersScat
[16:12] <lecoeus> syrious: transmission
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> deluge
[16:12] <lecoeus> it's basically the standard
[16:12] <BluesKaj> ktorr works well ,and no ads or constant reminders to go pro , syrious
[16:12] <BluesKaj> err ktorrent
[16:13] <harushimo> from that UUID, can I find out what drive is it associated with?
[16:14] <wildwind> harushimo: yes, with disk utility
[16:14] <varunendra> harushimo, UUIDs are supposed to be unique for different partitions, so yes, you can use 'sudo blkid' command to see which partition it is
[16:14] <krabador> i need to look the session listed on lightdm
[16:15] <krabador> at startup
[16:15] <krabador> how can i see them?
[16:15] <varunendra> harushimo, by 'label' in fstab, do you mean "Mount Point"?
[16:15] <krabador> what conf file?
[16:15] <krabador> i tryed /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[16:15] <krabador> but nothing
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> krabador  go to /usr/share/xsessions/
[16:15] <cWiden> Is there going to be a physical UDS for or around 14.04 ??
[16:16] <harushimo> no when I label, I mean what drive is associate like /dev/sdb or /dev/sda
[16:16] <krabador> MonkeyDust, i've the conf file?
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> krabador  it's a folder
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> harushimo  mount shows where each uuid is mounted
[16:16] <varunendra> harushimo, those are generic addresses, not 'labels'
[16:16] <harushimo> thank you for the correction
[16:17] <harushimo> if I'm misusing the terminology, please correct me
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> cWiden  questions about 14.04 in #ubuntu+1
[16:17] <cWiden> I athanx
[16:17] <jazzme> hello
[16:17] <cWiden> **thanx
[16:18] <nikolam_> lecoeus,
[16:18] <varunendra> harushimo, use Gparted to assign 'Labels' to partitions for easy recognition. But it doesn't matter if you are going to mount them via fstab. Once mounted, they appear by their mount point names
[16:18] <nikolam_> I fixed skype with Webcam with preloading /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so
[16:18] <nikolam_> since it is 32-bit
[16:18] <lecoeus> so they moved the location of the library
[16:18] <lecoeus> happens sometimes
[16:19] <nikolam_> I also previously reinstalled libv4l-0
[16:19] <jazzme> I was wondering, after a while of inactivity xubuntu returns to the login screen, and after logging in all of my open apps are shutdown.  How can I prevent this?
[16:19] <nikolam_> well, I should change on local wiki
[16:19] <nikolam_> so people can actually use it..
[16:20] <mazda01> how many of you use GPT partitioning over the older msdos?
[16:20] <bunduru> Please can somebody help? My computer doesn't power down, from cli or gui, haven't found a workaround that works, i've tried the poweroff and halt commands but those won't power down the pc.
[16:21] <wheatthin> bunduru, sudo shutdown -h now
[16:21] <whoever> bunduru: you might beable to do shutdown now
[16:22] <bunduru> thanks wheatthin i'll try that brb then
[16:22] <whoever> bunduru: or just for fun shutdown -t 20
[16:22] <varunendra> !bootoptions | bunduru try various boot options, especially acpi related ones
[16:25] <ocooel> please point me to an article on Ask! or ubuntu forums for configuring and setting up conky.
[16:25] <wheatthin> ocooel, and what's your reasoning for this request? Unless you couldn't understand it.
[16:26] <wheatthin> ahh sorry
[16:26] <wheatthin> !conky | ocooel
[16:26] <ocooel> so I can learn how to set up conky without bothering you guys developing 14.04
[16:28] <bekks> ocooel: This channel is for ubuntu support ;)
[16:28] <wheatthin> :)
[16:28] <ocooel> whatthin: any articles on customizing 12.04 will be awesome. Ubuntu support and forums aren't exactly the easiest to navigate.
[16:28] <wheatthin> well I found a doc, but not from askubuntu
[16:28] <ocooel> bekks: help me set-up conky..?
[16:28] <wheatthin> but basically it just says 'sudo apt-get install conkywizard'
[16:29] <bekks> ocooel: Ask a specific question :)
[16:29] <joossee> ocooel, you can edit the xml files for many of the themese supported by 12.04, especially when running unity 2d
[16:29] <zykotick9> mazda01: i first used GPT to support a 3TB drive I bought - now, I try to use it on anything I can...  I like not having the 4 primary limit, having nice sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 sda5 ... instead of the big JUMP that came with extended/logical
[16:29] <bunduru> back
[16:29] <wheatthin> zykotick9, then use the GTP partitioning
[16:29] <wheatthin> GPT*
[16:30] <zykotick9> s/anything/anywhere/
[16:30] <bunduru> wheatthin, unfortunately it didn't work =/
[16:30] <OerHeks> ocooel, there is an forum with 1001+ conkyrc examples too > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[16:30] <wildwind> ocooel: i managed to set up conky with only the official docs. it's not that hard
[16:30] <wheatthin> bunduru, then my friend, I think (like others pointed out) you have an acpi problem.
[16:30] <zykotick9> !didntwork > bunduru my fav factoid ;)
[16:31] <ocooel> bekks: I want conky on my desktop with hardware usage etc. want to learn how I take default unity and turn it into what I want
[16:31] <bunduru> the pc is kind of old, but it worked fine with ubuntu before
[16:31] <zykotick9> !doesntwork > bunduru
[16:31] <ocooel> wildwind, where here..? https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/index.html
[16:32] <bunduru> lol
[16:32] <wildwind> bunduru: try to revert to older kernel
[16:32] <wheatthin> !acpi
[16:32] <bunduru> i just installed ubuntu again
[16:32] <wildwind> ocooel: here: http://conky.sourceforge.net/documentation.html
[16:33] <Jie> hey
[16:34] <bunduru> !nomodeset
[16:35] <wildwind> bunduru: try previous release. do you remember which release it worked ok with?
[16:36] <bunduru> varunendra, thanks i did try messing with those at least most workarounds i found were about that, editing grubconf
[16:36] <ocooel> wildwind, thanks
[16:36] <bunduru> no success though
[16:37] <WorldEmperor> no success?
[16:37] <WorldEmperor> try harder, slacker
[16:37] <wildwind> ocooel: you're welcome
[16:37] <bunduru> wildwind, i'm now with Ubuntu 12.04.3 it was the one before
[16:40] <mazda01> im trying to move my ubuntu install to a larger disk and not sure the best way to do it
[16:44] <whoever> hi all, are there system wide key shortcuts for vol-up , vol-down
[16:44] <bekks> mazda01: Backup everything, clone the disk to the larger one, enlarge the target partition, and enlarge the filesystems. Clonezilla can do all that but backing up.
[16:45] <ubuntuguru12> hiya
[16:45] <wheatthin> whoever, I believe each window manager will have their own set.
[16:46] <ubuntuguru12> unity is awesome
[16:47] <ubuntuguru12> i wish other distros wouild make it default
[16:49] <ubuntuguru12> slackware is based off ubuntu now
[16:49] <irc-5225225> ubuntuguru12: Unity doesn't really work on any other distros. Only fedora and arch have managed to get a basic port of it.
[16:49] <lecoeus> irc-5225225: he is trolling
[16:50] <irc-5225225> lecoeus: Oh, right. Guess I've seen too many people who would say that for real.
[16:50] <lecoeus> i don't think anybody would say that for real
[16:50] <ubuntuguru12> unity is nice. its better than kde
[16:51] <irc-5225225> to be honest, the blur effects on it are nice.
[16:51] <irc-5225225> it just seems like it's meant for a tablet, with all the buttons being quite big.
[16:51] <bunduru> eventually the gurus will fix this bug right?
[16:51] <lecoeus> unity has good sides, but kde is so obviously superior that it isn't even funny
[16:52] <mazda01> so no one can assist with moving ubuntu to a larger disk and or switching from msdos to gpt?
[16:52] <bekks> ubuntuguru12: slackware isnt based on Ubuntu at all, technically.
[16:52] <ubuntuguru12> kde looks like windows too much
[16:52] <bekks> mazda01: I just assisted you - did you get the post?
[16:52] <irc-5225225> ubuntuguru12: kde can be modified to be less like windows.
[16:52] <mazda01> bekks, i must have missed it, had to step away sorry
[16:52] <lecoeus> irc-5225225: seriously, he is just trolling
[16:52] <bekks> mazda01: Backup everything, clone the disk to the larger one, enlarge the target partition, and enlarge the filesystems. Clonezilla can do all that but backing up.
[16:53] <mazda01> bekks, ok, what does "clonezilla can do all that but backing up" mean?
[16:53] <ubuntuguru12> mazda, fdisk /mbr
[16:54] <Frito_Pendejo> slackware is based off ubuntu now?  link plz
[16:54] <mazda01> ubuntuguru12, huh?
[16:54] <Aaron> Frito_Pendejo, google it
[16:54] <Frito_Pendejo> did that
[16:54] <zykotick9> Frito_Pendejo: NO WAY slackware is based off ubuntu!
[16:54] <Frito_Pendejo> yik
[16:55] <jetski> how can I prevent grub boot loader from automatically starting ubuntu after 10 secs?
[16:55] <jetski> I have windows installed on it, and would like for it to just wait until I pick one
[16:55] <zykotick9> jetski: i believe setting the countdown to 0 will make grub just stay there.  /etc/default/grub and run update-grub after making the change.
[16:55] <ubuntuguru12> im sick of how of all these freeloaders take ubuntus work… like redhat.. fedora… opensue
[16:56] <ubuntuguru12> jetski, timeout=0
[16:57] <Aikar> I need help :/ I installed gnome- desktop on 13.04, and now im getting issues with initamfs-tools cant find cp: cannot stat ‘/modules/pango-basic-fc.so’: No such file or directory - + another, many seem to have ran into this but i see no solution. im worried if i reboot i wont be able to boot back in
[16:57] <nvs> does anyone has a virtualmachine with win 7 and visual studio inside in ubuntu?
[16:57] <nvs> is this possible?
[16:57] <ubuntuguru12> i wish redhat/fedora would quit stealing from ubuntu.
[16:57] <jetski> zykotick9, it automatically starts ubuntu for me, and if I had hibernated windows previously, that hibernation data gets messed up, so I want it to just wait
[16:58] <bekks> nvs: There is no technical reason for it being not possible.
[16:58] <lecoeus> nvs: it is possible
[16:58] <jetski> ubuntuguru12, is there a terminal command I can run to set timeout=0?
[16:58] <bekks> ubuntuguru12: Would you mind stop trolling please?
[16:58] <ubuntuguru12> vi /boot/grub/grub.conf
[16:58] <nvs> performance is good ? i havent tried that before
[16:59] <bekks> nvs: Depends on your hardware and the vm configuration.
[16:59] <zykotick9> jetski: you need to edit the file, then update-grub.  "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" is a terminal editor.
[16:59] <Frito_Pendejo> would be funny if slack was debian based now good one..
[16:59] <ubuntuguru12> bekks, would you stop trolling ?
[16:59] <Frito_Pendejo> u got me
[16:59] <bekks> ubuntuguru12: Ignore set. Have a good life.
[16:59] <nvs> what is a vm?
[16:59] <bekks> nvs: "virtual machine"
[16:59] <Aaron> virtual machine
[16:59] <DJones> !vm | nvs
[16:59] <nvs> im gonna go with the most popular
[17:00] <zykotick9> Frito_Pendejo: i don't use slackware, but it's one of the ONLY non-derivative distros left, why would you want to change that?  </OT>
[17:00] <ubuntuguru12> nvs: virtual mommy?
[17:00] <nvs> i think its virtual bo
[17:00] <bekks> nvs: Just use VirtualBox then.
[17:00] <Frito_Pendejo> zykotick9, hehe dunno i just clicked over to # and saw that :)
[17:00] <ubuntuguru12> nvs, all the elite hackers use boch
[17:00] <nvs> yeah but im not elite hacker
[17:01] <nvs> i just want it to run good and to be user friendly
[17:02] <bekks> nvs: It has nothing to do with hacking at all.
[17:03] <nvs> i just saw that i have to use win8 on the vm because i have vs 2013
[17:03] <nvs> isnt that too much for the vm? ive got 4 gigs of ram
[17:03] <bekks> nvs: You dont need W8 for it. It runs on W7 as well.
[17:03] <lecoeus> nvs: try going for xp
[17:04] <bekks> nvs: And you can create a VM with 2GB RAM.
[17:04] <nvs> i just googled it its not possible unfortunately with the new vs
[17:04] <Aikar> can someone please help me figure out this libpango issue, 13.04 seems to have same issue as 13.10 as here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pango1.0/+bug/1185300
[17:04] <Betal> nvs: VS2013 run in win7
[17:04] <jetski> zykotick9, thanks a ton, found the file and edited it, then ran sudo update-grub. Let's see what happens next time boot :)
[17:05] <nvs> i like 8 :) lol
[17:05] <nvs> and it supports the net framework 4.5
[17:05] <Aikar> found a thread, installing plymouth fixed it
[17:05] <bekks> nvs: "The next version is officially titled Visual Studio 2013 and is ... will require Windows 7 or higher matching the current VS2012 requirements."
[17:06] <nvs> but is it safe enough? do you use vms on your systems?
[17:06] <bekks> nvs: VS2K13 runs on W7.
[17:06] <Betal> nvs: win7 supports it too :)
[17:06] <Betal> nvs: net framework 4.5 and vs2013
[17:07] <Betal> nvs: vms = virtual machines?
[17:07] <porkman1> my ubuntu is running slow
[17:07] <nvs> yes
[17:07] <Betal> nvs: I user a lot :)
[17:07] <Betal> nvs: use*
[17:08] <porkman1> nvs: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:08] <nvs> 12.10
[17:08] <nvs> and i dont have any problem with it its running gr8
[17:08] <porkman1> ah
[17:08] <porkman1> i love unity
[17:08] <porkman1> just its slow
[17:09] <nvs> & i just learned the hard way not to install anything outside the software center ;p
[17:10] <bekks> nvs: The software center is basically just a GUI for apt-get and dpkg
[17:11] <porkman1> whats dpkg?
[17:11] <Betal> dpkg-*
[17:11] <WorldEmperor> debian package installer?
[17:11] <bekks> porkman1: The command line interface for your package management system.
[17:11] <nvs> i dont know i have crashed ubuntu at least 7 times and all those times i installed lenses i used the apt-get
[17:11] <porkman1> i dont want debian packages, i want ubuntu packages
[17:12] <bekks> porkman1: Ubuntu uses the debian package management system.
[17:12] <bekks> porkman1: Thats why Ubuntu packages have the .deb extension
[17:12] <nvs> so i decided not to install absolutely anything outside the software center  & i have my ubuntu live and well
[17:12] <porkman1> that doesnt make sense, but ok
[17:13] <bekks> porkman1: It makes perfectly sense, since Ubuntu is derived from Debian and Ubuntu didnt reinvent the wheel of a package management system.
[17:13] <Ari-Yang> porkman1: ubuntu is Debian-based
[17:13] <porkman1> silly question, but why not just use debian?
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> porkman1: why not use windows?
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> porkman1: why not use OSX?
[17:14] <LjL> because those aren't Debian-based?
[17:14] <wheatthin> it's a choice :P
[17:14] <porkman1> windows is debian based?
[17:14] <LjL> i think what porkman1 is asking is how Ubuntu differentiates itself from Debian
[17:15] <porkman1> i thought windows was made from Microsoft
[17:15] <wheatthin> the community, and distinct patches in which improves debian
[17:15] <LjL> porkman1: you might want to re-read what i said
[17:15] <rypervenche> porkman1: A lot of poeple do use Debian. But Ubuntu was made for a different reason.
[17:15] <porkman1> well.. i dont want to devert.
[17:15] <nvs> and just another thought.. what about the new bioshock? can i play it on ubuntu?
[17:16] <nvs> with wine or something?
[17:16] <Ari-Yang> porkman1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[17:16] <LjL> anyway, bottom line, the packaging system is the same as Debian. the actual *packages* may not be, and it's in general not safe to install a Debian package in Ubuntu, or vice versa.
[17:16] <bekks> nvs: You have to look that up on winehq
[17:16] <wheatthin> nvs, that has nothing to do with ubuntu, you might wanna look at wines compadibility list
[17:16] <Ari-Yang> porkman1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/ForDebianDevelopers?action=show&redirect=UbuntuForDebianDevelopers <--- read this
[17:18] <minimec> |join #ubuntu-de
[17:18] <nvs> http://www.winehq.org/
[17:18] <zykotick9> LjL: +1
[17:18] <nvs> here do i check?
[17:20] <porkman1> how do i install an iso?  i want ot install some software from this iso i downloaded
[17:21] <wildwind> porkman1: burn it or mount it
[17:21] <LjL> porkman1: an ISO is an image of a disc, it can't be "installed".
[17:21] <porkman1> ah, doulbe clikc, i feel like a dumba—
[17:21] <madadam> Hi, I followed this thread https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accountsservice/+bug/1212337 and I update account service packet, but accountservice still crash at startup. Does someone solved this issue?
[17:22] <porkman1> the darn menu keep s dispappearing to fast
[17:22] <evanvarvell> perhaps the disc image is an install disc?
[17:23] <Ari-Yang> !livecd | porkman1
[17:23] <Ari-Yang> !bootableusb | porkman1
[17:23] <Ari-Yang> !liveusb
[17:23] <Ari-Yang> ^ porkman1
[17:23] <evanvarvell> i like netbootin?
[17:24] <evanvarvell> is that what its called?
[17:25] <zykotick9> evanvarvell: unetbootin
[17:25] <nvs> what version of windows do you have on your vm?
[17:25] <evanvarvell> ty
[17:25] <evanvarvell> rolling release i like too
[17:25] <bekks> nvs: That doesnt matter for a vm.
[17:26] <lecoeus> nvs: vms are resource-challenged, so go for the minimal that you can use
[17:26] <porkman1> ugh
[17:26] <lecoeus> nvs: i had actually messed with msconfig to disable services in the vm
[17:26] <madadam> ubottu, so the problem is unsolved?
[17:26] <nvs> i have only 4gigs of ram so id better stick with win7 then
[17:26] <porkman1> ubuntu did an update and it broke my gedit
[17:27] <porkman1> :/
[17:27] <zykotick9> madadam: ubottu is a (ro)Bot.  and the bug would say "fix released" (or similar) if it was fixed.
[17:27] <porkman1> bow gedit wont run
[17:27] <robert-lnx> Since cron jobs can be set up with  "----*" or @daily, why would one bother with cron.daily?  (I know this isn't technically distro specific, I hope that's ok)
[17:27] <nvs> i want it only to run visual studio to be honest
[17:27] <porkman1> now*
[17:27] <nvs> not gaming etc
[17:27] <madadam> zykotick9, ok
[17:27] <theadmin> nvs: I have Windows 8 on a Virtualbox, runs fine with 3 gigs of RAM
[17:27] <evanvarvell> reinstall gedit?
[17:28] <lecoeus> robert-lnx: is that the systemd target?
[17:28] <nvs> how long do you have it? is it stable enough? do you use it regularly?
[17:28] <evanvarvell> whats wrong with kate......or ......scribes?
[17:28] <lecoeus> kate is excellent
[17:28] <evanvarvell> how cabout nano?
[17:29] <theadmin> nvs: Yeah, I use it about... once a week?
[17:29] <theadmin> nvs: Works fine, all the apps I tried work pretty much
[17:29] <zykotick9> evanvarvell: learn a real text editor ;)  your choices are vi or emacs...
[17:30] <nvs> ive got a dual boot machine but if this works it seems a much better solution
[17:30] <lecoeus> vi is good but emacs is better
[17:30] <theadmin> zykotick9: You mean "vi xor emacs" :P
[17:30] <robert-lnx> lecoeus, I'm sorry, I don't understand, is what my target?
[17:30] <evanvarvell> why do you like vi as aposed to vim?
[17:30] <lecoeus> robert-lnx: i was asking if you were asking about systemd but it seems you weren't
[17:30] <zykotick9> lecoeus: no vi-emacs flame wars please - it's why i stated both (PS. i think you're wrong) ;)
[17:30] <porkman1> great. the update deleted my documents :/
[17:31] <zykotick9> theadmin: nice! (second for the day) ;)
[17:32] <evanvarvell> checking my documents.......
[17:32] <lecoeus> porkman1: dude every update breaks something for you, maybe you should just not update anything for a while
[17:32] <evanvarvell> ok my documents seem fine ok....
[17:32] <intrader> Anyone, I am having a problem with a blank screen (pure black) after resumes. I have found many reports and 'solved' bugs - but no solution. I installed 12.04.3 clean without loading updates while installing. Noticed the problem after the first normal update was updated.
[17:32] <porkman1> im on 12.04 LTS
[17:32] <robert-lnx> lecoeus: No, just a general cron question
[17:33] <porkman1> long term support..
[17:33] <porkman1> so much for that :|
[17:33] <ikonia> porkman1: your complaining is tedious
[17:33] <ikonia> porkman1: explain your problem, and what you want to happen
[17:33] <evanvarvell> downloading cows
[17:34] <porkman1> ubuntu update center said to update, i  clicked the button and it did, now my gedit and documents are goine
[17:34] <porkman1> im looking for my backup right now
[17:34] <ikonia> porkman1: where where your documents located
[17:34]  * zykotick9 just learned about xcowsay - changed my life ;)
[17:35] <porkman1> is there a tech support # i can just call?
[17:35] <ikonia> porkman1: answer the question, where did you store your documents
[17:35] <LjL> porkman1: wouldn't it be easier if you chatted from your Ubuntu machine so you could paste any errors?
[17:35] <evanvarvell> nedd a cowsay bash tutorial
[17:35] <lecoeus> zykotick9: if you are looking for cool programs, also try gnaughty
[17:35] <porkman1> its in the ubuntu cloud
[17:36] <porkman1> i think, i set it up to backup to there
[17:36] <ikonia> porkman1: please explain clearly where you put your documents
[17:36] <evanvarvell> cowsay tutorial subjects
[17:37] <evanvarvell> cowsay tutorial application
[17:37] <theadmin> evanvarvell: man cowsay
[17:37] <evanvarvell> ty
[17:38] <robert-lnx> zykotick9,  now try rot13 and sl
[17:39] <zykotick9> robert-lnx: sl is one of my default installed programs, i don't see it "that" often, but when I do - it's all alias'ed up, with all the bells 'n whistles - flying / flames and such ;)  no debian/ubuntu packages for gnaughty :( but doesn't look like a program i'd be interested in - but thanks for the suggestion!
[17:40] <lecoeus> zykotick9: strange they don't have a package for it in ubuntu
[17:40] <lecoeus> it's like an official gnome program
[17:43] <theadmin> lecoeus: It's not developed by the GNOME team.
[17:44] <lecoeus> theadmin: i was jesting
[17:47] <quatar__> Hello everyone! I came just to ask if with ubuntu 13.10 we finally have an answer to THE question: "If I come with a factory-installed windows laptop and want to have a working win+ubuntu dual boot, can I be 99% sure that the «install alongside» option plus, in case, «boot repair», will do the work safely?"
[17:48] <quatar__> well 96% will do anyway
[17:48] <theadmin> quatar__: Most of the time yes, but it's strongly recommended to disable secure boot, and the "fast startup" option in Windows.
[17:48] <linuxology> hi
[17:49] <theadmin> quatar__: Once that's done, you're good to go.
[17:49] <quatar__> theadmin: okay, noted. I will. Anyway is there an updated resource that list the tested manufacturer/laptop with ubuntu?
[17:49] <root> hi
[17:49] <linuxology> I've got one liner, to print ':)' or ':(' depending upon the exit status of previous command
[17:49] <linuxology> echo -e ":\\$(($??50:51))"
[17:49] <linuxology> doesn't work
[17:49] <Guest89739> hi all
[17:49] <linuxology> ?
[17:49] <Guest89739> gn
[17:50] <linuxology> spits out ':\51'....  I know I need \051 for it to print ')'
[17:50] <zykotick9> theadmin: not that i know ANYTHING about it, but won't disabling "secure boot" require windows to be reinstalled?
[17:50] <theadmin> quatar__: Hm. There was something along those lines on the wiki. Which laptop do you have?
[17:50] <theadmin> zykotick9: I don't think so, no. Switching to legacy mode would, though.
[17:52] <quatar__> Toshiba satellite c850-19d theadmin
[17:52] <urielvigilant> On Lubuntu 13.10 browsing with Chromium if i download an excell sheet  and click on it on the right corner of the screen it open the FireFx windows ? This is not normal ! If i uninstall FireFOx it open with the Office Libre Cal that what i want. How to make this happen ?
[17:53] <urielvigilant> I want to open with Office Libre , but i dont want to uninstall firefox .
[17:53] <theadmin> quatar__: Hm. Quick google search brings up wi-fi issues on that device.
[17:54] <theadmin> quatar__: I recommend booting from the DVD/USB and clicking "Try Ubuntu". That way, you can try the full system without installing anything, see if things work.
[17:54] <quatar__> theadmin: yes i noticed but also tried the usb-stick and everything works good
[17:55] <quatar__> theadmin: exactly :)
[17:55] <theadmin> quatar__: Ah, great then, everything should be fine :D
[17:56] <quatar__> theadmin: before uefi i used to install one or two ubuntu a week for friends etc... the problem is that now I don't have still a for-sure-safe route with uefi
[17:56] <quatar__> theadmin: anyway, i'm going to try :) (i'm just worried to compromise the working win on a friend's laptop!). I'll let you know if i encounter issues
[17:56] <theadmin> quatar__: Well, generally, the installer's automatic partitioning doesn't fail if secure/fast boot are disabled. At least I've not heard of them failing. Now with manual partitioning, you need some strange extra stuff for EFI.
[17:57] <urielvigilant> How to make Chrommium to open docs and cals with LibbreOffce ? I discovery this, but i dont have idea what for calcs instead writer docs . http://askubuntu.com/questions/260837/how-to-set-chromium-to-open-word-documents-with-libreoffice
[17:58] <quatar__> theadmin: yep, indeed i often use the automatic partitioning now. Anyway I often find it buggy, not showing which OS corresponds to the two sides of the volume space slider
[17:58] <theadmin> quatar__: Ah, it does that sometimes, not sure why. Ubuntu's the second one.
[17:58] <quatar__> wow so i finally have an answer on that :) thanks theadmin !
[17:59] <theadmin> quatar__: Maybe something to do with graphic drivers? Strange though.
[17:59] <pfifo> hello world
[18:00] <quatar__> theadmin: eh.. don't know! Good bye anyway :)
[18:01] <geekcafe_pl> hey guys, I'm looking for people who could recommend me a good Ubuntu VPS solution, if you are using one, please tell me on priv
[18:02] <iHelpful> OK.
[18:03] <ubuntuaddicted> ok, i used clonezilla to clone partitions from a smaller harddrive to images, then i restored them to larger partitions and now the new hard drive doesn't boot into grub or anything. do i fix this using boot repair tool. im downloading linux_rescue_remix.iso right now and gonna load it onto a usb stick
[18:04] <pfifo> ubuntuaddicted: reinstalling grub should do it
[18:05] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: don't use an external CD to fix it, use an ubuntu CD
[18:06] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, it's the boot repair tool
[18:06] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: I know, don't use it, use an ubuntu cd
[18:07] <urielvigilant> How to make Chrommium open docs with libbreoffice  instead of other stuff ?
[18:08] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, why not may i ask?
[18:08] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: to make sure you use the same tools/grub as ubuntu expects
[18:08] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, grub2 is grub2 as far as I am concerned
[18:09] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: that's probably why you break things then
[18:09] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, an MBR is an MBR.
[18:09] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: carry on then, please just be aware I've advised you against it, as an "mbr" is not an "mbr"
[18:09] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, i didn't break anything. I moved my xubuntu installation from a smaller 40GB IDE HDD to a 160GB SATA HDD using clonezilla.
[18:10] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: carry on, I'm not going to beg you to follow my advice.
[18:10] <jetski> is there some kind of package that autocompletes terminal inputs based on statstics? i.e. if you use a command often, can pressing tab autocomplete with that command instead of something else?
[18:10] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, i appreciate the suggestion. if i were to use an ubuntu live usb, what would the commands be?
[18:10] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: it depends on a great many things, carry on with what you wanted to do,
[18:12] <zykotick9> jetski: i don't think so, somewhat of an interesting idea though...
[18:13] <auronandace> !info fish | jetski
[18:14] <zykotick9> auronandace: really?  fish does that?
[18:14] <jetski> auronandace, fish seems interesting, does it autocomplete based on statistics though?
[18:14] <auronandace> jetski: i'm not entirely sure sorry, it was the closest thing i could think of
[18:14] <jetski> zykotick9, what would be even cooler is if there were something like google autocomplete for terminal, productivity increase -> 1000%
[18:14] <lord4163> Where do I download Ubuntu Thrusty Tahr server edition?
[18:15] <auronandace> !ubuntu+1 | lord4163
[18:15] <jetski> auronandace, fish looks pretty good though, thanks for the pointer :)
[18:16] <alexander> hi
[18:17] <Guest57930> hi
[18:17] <Guest57930> hi
[18:17] <Guest57930> hi
[18:17] <Guest57930> hi
[18:17] <FloodBot1> Guest57930: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:17] <Guest57930> hi
[18:19] <ro9> cd
[18:19] <auronandace> no such file or directory
[18:20] <ro9> mistakenly diff term
[18:24] <Danato> guys I installed ubuntu on my gf's pc. I know that if i install xubuntu desktop I will have some increase on the performance, but would it better than installing kubuntu instead?
[18:24] <urielvigilant> How to setup Chromium to open docs with LibreOfice instead of other stuffs ?
[18:25] <Danato> btw its on VB
[18:25] <cWiden> Where do I go to ask why the Unbuntu is not on bountySource ?
[18:25] <pfifo> Danato: you can install both, and decide for yourself. Your allowed to have many desktop enviroments installed side by side
[18:26] <cWiden> **Ubuntu Project ...is not ...
[18:26] <lvleph> for some reason sudo reboot doesn't work. It starts a reboot process and then hangs. Can someone help me figure out how to fix this?
[18:26] <rathodr2> sudo shutdown -r
[18:26] <pfifo> cWiden: we have launchpad
[18:26] <zykotick9> urielvigilant: (troubleshooting step only)  try both "xdg-open libreoffice-file.foo" and "gnome-open libreoffice-file.foo" does one open in firefox and the other in LO?  might give you a hint on what to search for to change it.
[18:26] <lvleph> I think something may be wrong with my acpi because it won't suspend on closing the lid either
[18:27] <lvleph> I will try that rathodr2
[18:27] <lvleph> brb
[18:27] <pratz> hello guys
[18:27] <Danato> pfifo: I already use kubuntu for a while so id prefer to install it too on her vm, but if xubuntu would run more smoothly then id rather install it
[18:28] <elijah> hola, meld is saying some files have been modified when comparing two directories, however, when I open them it says 'files are identical', any thoughts?
[18:28] <pratz> I have a external hard disk, I want to lock some folders on it, how can I do it ?
[18:28] <urielvigilant> zykotick9: i cant understand what steps i need to do with your info, iam newby
[18:28] <pfifo> Danato: chances are xubuntu will be a little lighter on resources
[18:28] <pratz> also, they should not be accesible on windows and mac
[18:29] <Danato> pfifo: thats what i thought
[18:29] <zykotick9> urielvigilant: 1) do you know how to open a terminal? 2) do you have an Excel file available?
[18:29] <lvleph> thank you rathodr2 that worked wonder why reboot won't
[18:29] <urielvigilant> Zykotick9: yes i have terminal already opened and the file on chrommium ready to clicked
[18:30] <pfifo> pratz: I encrypt my stuff with gnupg. I think thats what you mean when you say 'lock'
[18:30] <zykotick9> urielvigilant: save the file in chromium to your home directory (download it)
[18:30] <pratz> pfifo: yes
[18:30] <lvleph> nice reboot and back to xchat in less than 3 minutes
[18:30] <pratz> pfifo: but will it be accessibale on windows and mac ?
[18:31] <rathodr2> lvleph, what's your distro/system/os?
[18:31] <lvleph> Ubuntu 13.04
[18:31] <urielvigilant> zykotick9: when i click on download a bar appear on chrommium downside with the download, i click on it , and it opens Firefox. It i remove Firefox it opens whell with LibreOffice, can you understand this ?
[18:31] <pfifo> pratz: no, well yes, windows and mac have gnupg tools, but overall it will be encrypted, so unaccessable from everywhere until you enter a password
[18:32] <zykotick9> urielvigilant: i understand that.
[18:32] <pratz> pfifo: ya that's cool
[18:32] <pratz> pfifo: even windows admin can not open it, right ?
[18:32] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, by the way, linux_secure_remix is Ubuntu
[18:33] <Danato> lvleph: do you know how can you upgrade your ubuntu to 13.10?
[18:33] <Belial`> anyone else getting a different notification color if the launcher and dash are set to a fixed color?
[18:33] <pfifo> pratz: right
[18:33] <urielvigilant> zykotick : what do you sugest, please?
[18:33] <pratz> pfifo: ok, thanks
[18:33] <lvleph> Danato, I cannot use 13.10, because it crashes within seconds of loading
[18:34] <lvleph> I am on a Macbook Pro 7,1 so I am happy even getting as far as I have.
[18:34] <zykotick9> urielvigilant: i guess i can't help you (as you can't download teh file / open a terminal / run my test).  best of luck, hopefully someone else can assist you.
[18:34] <Danato> lvleph: if its good for you then perfect
[18:34] <rathodr2> lvleph, when was the last time that worked for you? I was googling and found this issue back in ubuntu version 6
[18:35] <lonewulf85> the dimmer controls on my acer ao722 are not working.  I am running ubuntu 12.04
[18:35] <urielvigilant> zykotick9 : i know i can oopen it from the filemanager with no problem. this problem is only wen directly fom Chrommium !
[18:35] <lvleph> It worked in 12.04, but I just upgraded (fresh install) yesterday rathodr2
[18:35] <ubuntuuser> hi
[18:35] <zykotick9> urielvigilant: don't include my nick in your messages... sorry i can't help (in the gui) - but maybe someone else can!
[18:36] <uncle_ben> why do some xscreensavers use root window correctly  and some use the generic image even though it's set to use the root window? when my system was using intel integrated graphics, every xscreensaver set with root window worked, but with nvidia, only some xscreensaver use root window correctly, others don't
[18:36] <ubuntuuser> I just did a stupid and removed "unity-scope-home" so i don't get any more results in the dash. there is no installation candidate. how do I get my search results back? running 13.10
[18:36] <lvleph> I only upgraded because the claim was that the proprietary drivers for nvidia worked in 13.04. However they don't. rathodr2
[18:38] <beefman> hi.  i had a motherboard die on me today, and i removed the two raid 1 (mirrored) drives, now trying to get them to work in another machine.  I had used the dead motherboard's onboard raid.
[18:38] <lvleph> I found this rathodr2 http://mylinuxexplore.blogspot.com.es/2011/11/solved-ubuntu-doesnt-shutdown-properly.html but it is really old
[18:38] <beefman> now when i try to mount them, i get unknown filesystem type 'ddf_raid_member'
[18:38] <beefman> any ideas?
[18:38] <rathodr2> lvleph, just a thought (no guarantees). have you tried sudo apt-get autoclean/upgrade/update (each separate command)? I've found this cleans the package managemet system and local repo
[18:39] <beefman> also i have tried setting the current machine's motherboard bios to ahci, raid, and ide, but neither drive will boot in any of those settings
[18:39] <urielvigilant> How to setup Chrommium to open .xls files directly with LibreOffice instead of other? mine is trying to open it with FireFox , this is crzy doens it ?
[18:39] <rodney77> Say, does anyone know how to hide foreign language fonts? I would like to be able to see these fonts rendered, in places like wikipedia pages, but I would never have a reason to see them in a dropdown list of available fonts to use
[18:39] <lvleph> I will try that rathodr2
[18:39] <jhutchins_wk> beefman: You'll need to restore them from backup, without the original controller you can't recover the raid.
[18:39] <rodney77> in windows vista, it's simple: Hide all the foreign fonts. They still render but never show up in Word or Photoshop etc
[18:40] <ubuntuuser> I just did a stupid and removed "unity-scope-home" so i don't get any more results in the dash. trying to reinstall gives me "there is no installation candidate". how do I get my search results back? running 13.10
[18:40] <rodney77> but in linux you hide folders/files by prepending a dot, which changes the path
[18:40] <beefman> jhutchins_wk: whoa, that's a shock.  the original as in the original only, or an identical part also?
[18:40] <albert_> hi guys, my usb headset logitch have been working with ubuntu 12.04 for a while, and now it does not working,
[18:41] <beefman> i mean, if i can find another identical motherboard?
[18:41] <albert_> I tried unplug/plug headset again
[18:41] <jhutchins_wk> An identical motherboard would probably work.  The board was presenting the array to the OS as a single drive, right?
[18:41] <beefman> yeah
[18:41] <albert_> and run command lsusb, it does not detect my usb headset
[18:42] <beefman> ok so it's not like i need something that's stored on the bios chip in the dead machien
[18:43] <pratz> pfifo: does gnupg work for directories ?
[18:43] <pratz> or just files ?
[18:43] <k1l_> ubuntuuser: just reinstall  "unity-scope-home"
[18:44] <lvleph> ewww scary xserver is about to update
[18:46] <OnceMe> I have a problem, my screensaver is not working
[18:46] <OnceMe> actually when I watch video on youtube and 10mins pass, it goes blank automatically and lock a screen
[18:46] <OnceMe> but when I watch in vlc player screen does not go blank
[18:46] <OnceMe> it's like system is not seing that my video is active
[18:46] <albert_> can anyone help to troubleshoot my usb logitech headset? it has been working with ubuntu 12.04, it seems not work after I ran updates
[18:47] <OnceMe> brightness & lock: turn off system when its inactive: never
[18:47] <OnceMe> so why does this happen?
[18:47] <lvleph> OnceMe, I think the only way I fixed this was by disabling the screensaver
[18:47] <pfifo> pratz: technically their the same thing, but I think you want to operate on mutiple files (in a directory) so you will want to use tar to make a tarball of all the files, and then gnupg to encrypt the tarball
[18:47] <OnceMe> lvleph: I tried that
[18:47] <OnceMe> not working
[18:47] <lonewulf85> issue with ao722 dimmer in ubuntu 12.04
[18:47] <OnceMe> I use cinnamon gui
[18:47] <pratz> pfifo: hmmm
[18:47] <lvleph> I had that at one time too OnceMe are you using Mint?
[18:47] <OnceMe> on ubuntu
[18:48] <OnceMe> actually lubuntu
[18:48] <OnceMe> ubuntu 12.*
[18:48] <lvleph> I have only seen this in cinnamon OnceMe
[18:48] <OnceMe> really? damn
[18:48] <OnceMe> is there a bug fix?
[18:48] <lvleph> I never found the solution
[18:48] <pfifo> !enter | OnceMe
[18:48] <lvleph> I looked for a couple years
[18:49] <OnceMe> meh Ill use gnome then
[18:49] <OnceMe> thanks for help
[18:49] <minimec> albert_: you did updates or upgrades? Are you still on 12.04?
[18:49] <jhutchins_wk> albert_: Did you change anything on the system?  Upgrade?
[18:49] <pfifo> OnceMe: turn off your screen saver when you watch videos
[18:49] <lvleph> np OnceMe
[18:49] <lvleph> pfifo, he tried that
[18:49] <OnceMe> pfifo: screen saver is turned off
[18:49] <OnceMe> completelly
[18:49] <OnceMe> nvm ill switch guis
[18:50] <OnceMe> bye
[18:50] <zykotick9> albert_: check "dmesg" output before and after plugging it in - does it give you any messages/errors?
[18:50] <lvleph> OnceMe, I even uninstalled it and still had the issue lol
[18:50] <ubuntuuser> I just did a stupid and removed "unity-scope-home" so i don't get any more results in the dash. trying to reinstall gives me "there is no installation candidate". how do I get my search results back? running 13.10
[18:50] <pfifo> he left? I knew the other answer, terminal blanking
[18:51] <jhutchins_wk> ubuntuuser: Try aptitude -f install
[18:52] <urielvigilant> How to setup Chrommium to open .xls files directly with LibreOffice instead of other? mine is trying to open it with FireFox , this is crzy doens it ?
[18:53] <k1l_> ubuntuuser: can you pastebin a "sudo apt-get install unity-scope-home"
[18:54] <jhutchins_wk> urielvigilant: What are you running?  Unity?  Gnome?  Have you looked at Chromium to see if it will let you specify the program?  Have you tried right-clicing on the file and choosing "Open With"?
[18:55] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: urielvigilant reports it opens correctly from nautilus.  i'm guess there is a different association for xdg-open vs gnome-open (but that's speculation at this point)
[18:56] <urielvigilant> jhutchins_wk: iam using Lubuntu 13.10 , yes Chromium dont have this option. I can open files directly on file manager , but using chromium when i click on downloaded file it opens a fire Fox window. If i uninstall FireFox it open with the default Lubuntu app to Calcs files, and if i uninstal it finally opens with LibbreOffice. But i dont want to uninstall FireFOx because that
[18:58] <ubuntuuser> jhutchins_wk: alright, i only have apt-get (aptitude has no installation candidate). trying apt-get -f gives the same
[18:59] <k1l_> !paste | ubuntuuser please put that whole terminal output into that
[19:01] <ubuntuuser> tried it again, now it works. thanks!
[19:02] <urielvigilant> jhutchins_wk :  i found this on internet, but how to make this available also for cals kind .xls docs etc ?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/260837/how-to-set-chromium-to-open-word-documents-with-libreoffice
[19:04] <fishduck> hi.. when I run some openGL app, it completely takes over my screen. Now, if it gets stuck, there's nothing I can do to kill it. tried with "kill" too from another tty, but it refused to shut down
[19:05] <fishduck> alt+tab does not change window
[19:05] <auronandace> fishduck: even with kill -9?
[19:06] <fishduck> is there some keyboard combination I can use to "switch" window when I'm on the "graphical tty"?
[19:06] <wafflejock> fishduck: use Ctrl+Alt+F1
[19:06] <fishduck> auronandace: thanks.. I was looking for something like that but couldn't switch to IRC to ask
[19:06] <auronandace> fishduck: man kill
[19:07] <fishduck> yeah.. didn't think of that
[19:09] <joossee> i am trying to run a python script from CLI but i get a syntax error on every line like its not recognizing that its python?
[19:09] <joossee> command im using is "./enum.py
[19:10] <pfifo> joossee: try `python ./enum.py`
[19:10] <auronandace> joossee: what is the very first line of the script?
[19:10] <joossee> pfifo, ty works!
[19:12] <robert-lnx> I've added ( user1 ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/mtr) with visudo.  I want to add a second user for the same program.  Do i just put a comma and username2 or do I need a new line?
[19:20] <Rat2000> does anybody know how to set up virtualbox and bridge a connection on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[19:21] <gordonjcp> !virtualbox
[19:22] <AlanBell> Rat2000: yup, it works fine, did you have a specific question about it?
[19:23] <Rat2000> i just installed virtual box and selected the correct interfaces and chose bridge
[19:23] <Rat2000> do i need to make some specific configurations?
[19:23] <Rat2000> on the host machine i mean
[19:24] <Rat2000> AlanBell, ?
[19:25] <Danato> I jst installed ubuntu 13.04 on a pc's virtualbox, and upgraded it to 13.10, but when i restarted it, it jst shows me a blinking cursor for quite a while now. is that supposed to be normal?
[19:25] <AlanBell> Rat2000: that should be fine, the guest will pick up it's own IP address from the network DHCP server
[19:25] <AlanBell> unless you set a static one on the guest
[19:26] <Rat2000> AlanBell, the problem is, it does not give an ip.
[19:26] <Rat2000> that is the problem
[19:27] <AlanBell> Rat2000: so you have a DHCP server on the network that has enough IP addresses to hand one out to the guest?
[19:27] <AlanBell> Rat2000: if in the guest you set a static IP address that is in the right subnet, can it ping stuff?
[19:27] <Rat2000> yes, i am sure that the dhcp server has enough ipadress
[19:27] <AlanBell> Rat2000: is this wireless or wired?
[19:28] <Rat2000> wired
[19:28] <Rat2000> so what you are saying is that it should work out of the box
[19:28] <AlanBell> yeah, presumably NAT works?
[19:29] <Rat2000> i did not try with nat
[19:29] <Danato> that reboot is taking way too long, I guess i should roll it back to 13.04
[19:29] <AlanBell> oh, give that a go first then, rules out a bunch of issues
[19:31] <Rat2000> AlanBell, i just tried with nat and i recive an ip, but i cannot ping www.google.com
[19:32] <AlanBell> and presumably you can from the host?
[19:32] <Rat2000> yes from host works 100%
[19:32] <AlanBell> ok, was a silly question but we have to rule out the basics :)
[19:32] <question> :)
[19:32] <AlanBell> any odd firewall setup on the host?
[19:32] <Rat2000> i understand no worries
[19:33] <Rat2000> it has the basic firewall that comes with
[19:33] <Rat2000> with ubuntu by default
[19:33] <AlanBell> host and guest are both Ubuntu?
[19:33] <Rat2000> host is ubuntu, gues is pfsense witch is a version of freebsd
[19:33] <urielvigilant> cant make printscreen on lubuntu , why ?
[19:34] <Danato> can anybody tell me how to choose ubuntu's advanced settings on virtualbox?
[19:34] <AlanBell> Rat2000: can the guest ping local ip addresses? such as the host IP address?
[19:34] <Danato> so i can load with the previous kernel
[19:35] <pfifo> urielvigilant: when I press prtscrn it dosent do anything, but it puts a screenshot in my home folder
[19:35] <reisio> Danato: hold down SHIFT during bootup
[19:36] <urielvigilant> pfifo: my lubuntu dont put nothing
[19:36] <pfifo> urielvigilant: install scrot maybe?
[19:37] <Danato> reisio: thanks, that worked
[19:38] <Credofilu> asd
[19:38] <Danato> reisio: but it still doesnt boot up, same forever blinking cursor, it only happened after the do-release-upgrade
[19:38] <urielvigilant> pfifo: sudo apt-get scrot ?
[19:38] <urielvigilant> pfifo: sudo apt-get install scrot ?
[19:38] <reisio> Danato: boot from a live image and fix it, then
[19:38] <Rat2000> AlanBell, i cannot find the gateway that my host has, what should be the default one?
[19:39] <Danato> reisio: fix it how?
[19:39] <pfifo> urielvigilant: yes, that will work
[19:39] <Rat2000> AlanBell, sorry not gateway but ip
[19:39] <urielvigilant> pfifo: and know it should work with
[19:39] <pfifo> urielvigilant: maybe
[19:40] <Encrypt> Hi everybody!
[19:40] <Rat2000> AlanBell, ???
[19:41] <Encrypt> I have a USB key on which I set a Luks partition
[19:41] <Encrypt> I'd like to set the mountpoint of this USB key when I plug it to the computer
[19:41] <AlanBell> Rat2000: 10.0.0.2, but I don't think setting that will help
[19:41] <Encrypt> I added to my fstab :
[19:42] <Rat2000> AlanBell, so i ping 10.0.0.2 but nothing...
[19:42] <Encrypt> /dev/mapper/USB     /media/USB   vfat    defaults,noauto   0    0
[19:42] <Encrypt> Is it enough?
[19:42] <pfifo> Encrypt: fstab has no influence over where somethign gets mounted when it is plugged in... it only affects boot time mounts
[19:42] <Encrypt> I imagine it isn't...
[19:42] <Encrypt> pfifo, No, we can specify the mountpoint
[19:43] <Rat2000> AlanBell, i just ping 10.0.2.2 and it is working
[19:43] <AlanBell> Rat2000: can you try it with an ubuntu live cd as the guest?
[19:43] <Encrypt> pfifo, I learnt this when I attended to my UNIX class
[19:43] <Rat2000> AlanBell, i just ping 10.0.2.2 and it is working
[19:43] <Rat2000> if that helps
[19:43] <AlanBell> Rat2000: that is itself
[19:43] <Rat2000> no the client is 10.0.2.15
[19:43] <bekks> you should both read the vbox manual chapter 6 about how their nat works ;)
[19:44] <AlanBell> oh, so it is
[19:44] <AlanBell> I read it wrong, yes, 10.0.2.2 should be the host virtual adapter
[19:44] <bekks> there is no such thing..
[19:45] <AlanBell> Rat2000: can you ping 8.8.8.8
[19:45] <Danato> can anybody tell me why is ubuntu not booting after an upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10? even with the old kernel
[19:45] <bekks> From the guest, 10.0.2.2 is the default gateway.
[19:45] <Rat2000> AlanBell, no it does not work
[19:46] <bekks> Rat2000: Which networking mode do you use, whats the IP of the guest, and whats the output of "netstat -rn" in the guest?
[19:46] <bekks> Rat2000: Pastebin those information please.
[19:46] <Encrypt> By the way...
[19:47] <Encrypt> Why do we have to format a Luks partition?
[19:47] <Encrypt> I don't understand the reason why...
[19:47] <AlanBell> Rat2000: I am out of ideas, but bekks seems to know it better than me anyway :)
[19:47] <bekks> Encrypt: Why do you expect it to work without? :)
[19:47] <divingmule> Hi, I ran "apt-get upgrade" now my network doesn't connect :s any ideas?
[19:47] <Encrypt> Sure, a filesystem is needed to get a "hardware" disk working...
[19:47] <reisio> Encrypt: and?
[19:48] <Encrypt> But I've already done this on another USB Key
[19:48] <reisio> so?
[19:48] <bekks> Encrypt: So thats why you have to format it.
[19:48] <Encrypt> And apparently I was able to put files on it without any problem
[19:48] <pfifo> Encrypt: ok yes, you can use fstab to let users mount the partition when its plugged in. I though you were going for an automount here.
[19:48] <Encrypt> I don't know why it worked but it worked...
[19:48] <reisio> maybe you should figure out why before wondering why
[19:48] <bjensen82> I want to enable my apps to use the mail app to alert of me stuff. I want to use an external smtp server. What app should I install to handle this?
[19:49] <Encrypt> pfifo, :)
[19:49] <Encrypt> reisio, What do you mean?
[19:49] <bjensen82> I was looking at postfix, but I thought it might be a bit overkill?
[19:49] <reisio> exactly
[19:49] <reisio> s/email/xmpp
[19:49] <pfifo> bjensen82: exim might be a bit lighter
[19:50] <reisio> secure, server-to-server, no middleman, real-time
[19:50] <reisio> starts with x!
[19:50] <Encrypt> As my computer science teacher says, not knowing why it works when it works is worse than not knowing why it doesn't work when it doesn't work.
[19:50] <Encrypt> :/
[19:50] <bjensen82> pfifo: thanks
[19:51] <Rat2000> bekks, i am running now in nat and i see destination 192.168.1.20 witch is the real dhcp server that gives ip's to the host and 10.0.2.0 witch i asume is the local conection betwen host and client
[19:51] <joossee> what is the difference between kvm and qemu in a nutshell?
[19:51] <reisio> Encrypt: right, it's just you asked why you needed FOO based on BAR, not why you needed FOO :)
[19:51] <bekks> Rat2000: Your second assumption is wrong.
[19:51] <reisio> joossee: qemu begat kvm begat qemu-kvm begat qemu
[19:51] <Rat2000> bekks, i am all years
[19:51] <reisio> joossee: it's hard to say now, most copies of qemu at this point are the same as kvm
[19:51] <bekks> Rat2000: Please refer to chapter 6 of the vbox manual - all I can say is explained there, and even better, regarding the NAT section.
[19:51] <joossee> reisio, well kvm lets me usoe something called virtio but qemu seems to not?
[19:51] <reisio> joossee: the devs renamed a lot to confuse people :p
[19:51] <Rat2000> please give me a link
[19:52] <Encrypt> Actually, LUKS is quite strange...
[19:52] <reisio> joossee: qemu and kvm are the same these days
[19:52] <reisio> joossee: you'd have to have quite an old copy for it to be otherwise
[19:52] <joossee> reisio, ubuntu 12.04 64...?
[19:52] <Rat2000> but bekks, i want bridge not nat, should i still read that?
[19:52] <AlanBell> bekks: the original problem was that bridged networking wasn't working, I asked Rat2000 to flip to NAT to check that it wasn't a DHCP server issue
[19:52] <reisio> joossee: what codename is 12.04?
[19:52] <wafflejock> Rat2000: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html
[19:52] <reisio> for some reason packages.ubuntu.com only uses stupid codenames
[19:52] <joossee> reisio, precise pangolin i believe?
[19:52] <Rat2000> thnx wafflejock
[19:53] <reisio> joossee: yeah, all the same
[19:53] <reisio> qemu and kvm are both 'qemu-kvm'
[19:53] <reisio> unfortunately since they kept changing the name the only way to half unambiguously refer to it is to make the name both names :p
[19:53] <reisio> gj upstream
[19:54] <joossee> reisio, ok.. how does I understand how the disk options works, IDE, SCSI, etc for the VM.. but what is virtio and what does it work on? im trying to get, gasp, windows2003 booting, only as a test
[19:54] <reisio> joossee: anyways you'll know if you don't have "kvm", because it will be dastardly slow
[19:54] <reisio> joossee: ask #kvm about that
[19:54] <joossee> reisio, i ran kvm-ok and I know my server supports virtualization so..
[19:54] <joossee> enabled in BIOS, etc.
[19:54] <psusi> joossee, virtio doesn't emulate physical hardware, instead it allows the guest kernel to use a more efficient api to send requests to the hypervisor
[19:55] <joossee> i did get windows 2003 installed but only on 8GB partition... cant get it to work any bigger
[19:55] <gajillion> Hello, would OpenDNS family filter play a factor in me not receiving updates and upgrades from apt?
[19:55] <Encrypt> I'll come back... Reboot :)
[19:55] <Rat2000> bekks, that article doesn't really solve annything. i want to use bridge and there it says just to select that from the options witch i did and still doesnt work
[19:55] <joossee> psusi, ok so thats dependent on the OS for the VM?
[19:55] <pfifo> Encrypt: there are 2 layers here, LUKS is the first, being placed on the partition itself, it transperently encrypts all data that is written to the partition. The second layer is you filesystem of choice, it manages storing data in a logical manner such as in files. LUKS dosent not provide any type of system for managin files so hence you need a filesystem on top of it.
[19:55] <psusi> joossee, yes, the guest OS must support it... I think Oracle made some Windows drivers to do it, but I'm not sure...
[19:55] <gajillion> Hello, would OpenDNS family filter play a factor in me not receiving updates and upgrades from apt?
[19:55] <joossee> kk tty
[19:56] <wafflejock> Rat2000: think bekks was referring to just understanding what the difference is between NAT and bridged connections and what the implications would be, what's your exact issue?
[19:56] <reisio> gajillion: quite possibly
[19:56] <reisio> opendns is kind of awful
[19:56] <gajillion> Ok, thanks
[19:56] <reisio> adware nonsense
[19:56] <reisio> dansguardian might be a better idea, but I haven't wasted my time on it
[19:56] <Rat2000> wafflejock, i want to set bridge and recive an ip on the guest machine from virtualbox
[19:56] <Rat2000> for some reason it does not work
[19:57] <bjensen82> pfifo: exim4 lets me use mandrillapp.com with a specific username / password for whatever user / service is sending off an email using e.g. /usr/bin/mail ?
[19:57] <wafflejock> Rat2000: how exactly does it not work... are you using ifconfig to check the IP that you get on each? are they both Ubuntu installs with default settings network wise
[19:58] <Rat2000> wafflejock, i have ubuntu as host and pfsense as guest, pfsense is a free bsd based distro
[19:58] <joossee> i know yall are gonna hate this question but how do I mount the second disk in an install package using virt or Virtual Machine Manager?
[19:58] <tortora> film
[19:58] <pfifo> bjensen82: thats not what exim does, you origin app is responsible for setting the destination of the email
[19:58] <joossee> the second ISO?
[19:59] <bjensen82> pfifo: I see...well what app does that then?
[19:59] <naptic> hi
[19:59] <bjensen82> for example I have signed up for mandrillapp.com so I dont have to have my own mail server running for sending out emails for users. I would like my services to use that as well
[20:00] <apofis> hello
[20:00] <joossee> salut
[20:01] <pfifo> bjensen82: well then, exim is not what your looking for, exim is a mail server, so is postfix. youll need to tell your orgin app to use mandrill.com or whatever.
[20:01] <apofis> Im wondering is somebody could help me with this
[20:01] <grimeton> bjensen82: checkout ssmtp
[20:01] <naptic> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 in my desktoppc next to windows 7. the installation got finished without any probems(installed from usb-stick). now it doesnt boot, and when the usb stick is still in, there comes a message: invalid or corrupt boot image. can somebody tell me whats wrong?
[20:01] <pirret> you can configure postfix as a smarthost
[20:01] <apofis> when I lock my system (12.04.03) randomly my OS hangs up
[20:01] <apofis> in logs I got this famous message:  NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU while in atomic or interrupt
[20:02] <pirret> to use mandrillap or whatever smtp-server
[20:02] <pfifo> bjensen82: what mail are you refering to? Im thinking your interested in mail from syslog or something of that nature
[20:02] <wafflejock> Rat2000: you should pastebin your ifconfig info, not sure about FreeBSD/pfsense but if DHCP is working then Bridged connection from virtual box should work
[20:02] <apofis> something similar described already here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/986831
[20:02] <joossee> naptic; did you use encryption and are you sure you wrote the boot loater and grub info the harddisk and not the USB stick?
[20:02] <bjensen82> pfifo: basicly anything. like mails from the raid controller when a disk goes bad etc
[20:02] <bjensen82> grimeton: thanks Ill checkout ssmtp :)
[20:02] <pirret> postfix as a smarthost is what you want then
[20:03] <naptic> joosee: no encryption. and i used unetbootin to write ubuntu to the stick
[20:03] <joossee> naptic, cuz in onlder versions the default option is not the one you want when it asks you about grub, it is the one for the harddrive, you have to write it down when you are partioning the drive
[20:03] <bjensen82> pirret: why not ssmtp?
[20:03] <pirret> or that, never heard of it
[20:03] <bjensen82> ill check out both thanks
[20:03] <joossee> naptic, ive only installed from install CD so...
[20:03] <pirret> looks like it fits better for this job now that i googled it
[20:03] <pirret> postfix might be an overkill
[20:03] <pfifo> bjensen82: thats syslog I think. but there are a lot of sources for mail like that, so what pirret is describing may be more efficient than finding and setting options for each indivudial program that uses mail
[20:04] <naptic> joosee: i had ubuntu 12.04 already installed, but there was the same problem. grub seems to be alright, because it ran smoothly till today
[20:04] <pfifo> *postfix is always overkill*
[20:04] <joossee> lololol
[20:04] <naptic> and grub still tuns good
[20:04] <bekks> Rat2000: Your issue can be solved much better in #vbox
[20:04] <reisio> no, superman tuns good, grub tuns _WELL_
[20:04] <reisio> :p
[20:05] <naptic> *runs
[20:05] <joossee> so you get a bnch of different boot options from grub?
[20:05] <naptic> yes
[20:05] <Rat2000> bekks, i didn't tought of that, good idea thnx
[20:05] <naptic> windows etc
[20:05] <joossee> hrmmm ok explain your problem in more detail naptic?
[20:06] <joossee> naptic; which come up and what have you tried?
[20:06] <bjensen82> pfifo:
[20:06] <bjensen82> pfifo: ok thanks
[20:07] <naptic> well... when i want to boot ubuntu, there is this purplelike backgroundcolor, if you know what i mean... the ubuntucolor, and nothing happens... when i got the stick in the usbport, and enter default, it says this error with invalid or corrupt boot image
[20:07] <naptic> i tried to reinstall :D what else...
[20:07] <naptic> but i can run the livesession with no problem
[20:08] <naptic> any idea?
[20:08] <joossee> reisio, where does virt keep its logs?
[20:09] <reisio> virt?
[20:09] <joossee> naptic, ok, when you get the grub loader, hit e and you can edit grub for that one time. find the second or third last line that ends in "ro" and an option "quiet splash"
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> naptic, Have you used this ISO on this usb to install before with no problems, IE have you checked the md5sum?
[20:10] <joossee> then hit f10. lemme find a link for you
[20:10] <vicatcu> i have a 64-bit firefox installation, what's the currently recommended/supported path to getting flash to run in it?
[20:10] <vicatcu> on ubuntu 12.04
[20:10] <naptic> the md5sum is alright
[20:11] <auronandace> vicatcu: install flash from the repo
[20:11] <vicatcu> couldn't find a clearly accepted answer on the webs
[20:11] <naptic> so what to do with quiet splash?
[20:11] <vicatcu> auronandance.... i.e. through synaptic?
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> naptic, Could it be a graphic driver is missing, just trying to understand a unusual description.
[20:11] <joossee> naptic: http://askubuntu.com/questions/147285/unable-to-boot-into-ubuntu-12-04
[20:11] <joossee> naptic: follow these instructions to put quiet splash in the right place, dont add nomodeset yet
[20:11] <auronandace> vicatcu: indeed
[20:12] <naptic> ok i will try... if it doesnt work, ill come back ;)
[20:12] <vicatcu> auronandance do u know the package name?
[20:12] <joossee> naptic ya get a tablet or something buddy :)
[20:12] <vicatcu> searching on "flash" doesn't exactly narrow it down
[20:12] <naptic> nah
[20:13] <auronandace> !info flashplugin-installer | vicatcu
[20:16] <vicatcu> auronadace something seems to go wrong there... "Failure to download extra data files"
[20:16] <auronandace> !tab | vicatcu
[20:17] <vicatcu> auronandace sorry
[20:17] <vicatcu> good tip
[20:17] <auronandace> vicatcu: no worries
[20:17] <Francescokro> ciao
[20:17] <Francescokro> !list
[20:18] <pfifo> Drop flash alltogether.
[20:20] <vicatcu> auronandace, so it's failing to do this: "flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.310.orig.tar.gz"
[20:21] <auronandace> vicatcu: not sure what to tell you, thats the package i always install from synaptic and it's never failed for me
[20:21] <joossee> reisio, how can I change the mounted cd in a VM?
[20:21] <reisio> joossee: talk to #kvm
[20:22] <naptic> hey
[20:22] <joossee> thats a thin yay
[20:23] <naptic> when i try to boot linux, there is the message: kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. try passing init= option to kernel. see linux documentation blabla... somebody got an idea?
[20:24] <wafflejock> joossee: in the vbox settings for the vm
[20:24] <wafflejock> joossee: can also go to the devices menu on a running vm
[20:24] <vicatcu> could it be i have to wrong repo or something?
[20:25] <vicatcu> flashplugin-installer shows up as 11.2.202.310ubuntu0.12.04.1 in synaptic
[20:25] <naptic> somebody? im starting to go a little bit crazy...
[20:26] <wildwind> vicatcu: try plain old apt-get install and check for any error messages
[20:26] <vicatcu> ah did a reload in synaptic and it changed
[20:26] <vicatcu> <--- dumb
[20:27] <joossee> merci wafflejock !
[20:27] <pooppppp> http://www.paulyne.com/?id=111794
[20:27] <pooppppp> clicks?
[20:27] <wafflejock> joossee: np
[20:28] <wildwind> naptic: install and use bootrepair in live session
[20:28] <vizgix> yar
[20:28] <naptic> just sudo apt-get install?
[20:29] <wildwind> it lives in separate repo afair
[20:29] <naptic> so how do i install it?
[20:29] <vizgix> im running a server with ec2, but am having problems >_<
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> naptic, You add a ppa for bootrepiar, save the bootinfo summary. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:30] <wildwind> !boot-repair
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> naptic, You can run just the bootinfo summary and post the url if you like.
[20:31] <vizgix> what are recomended editors for Ubuntu
[20:31] <naptic> w8 a sec please
[20:31] <wafflejock> !details | vizgix
[20:32] <wafflejock> vizgix: Sublime Text is great for lots of dev tasks, Gedit or Kate are good basic editors
[20:32] <sp38> hello... for thoses who know notepad++ is there anything similar for ubuntu platform? thanks
[20:32] <bekks> sp38: vi :)
[20:32] <wafflejock> vizgix: at the command line vi vim and nano are probably the most popular
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> vizgix, There is gedit, some like leafpad these are outside the cli though.
[20:32] <vizgix> i usually use gedit, but can not find a andress to wget
[20:32] <sp38> bekks, "anything similar" :)
[20:32] <wafflejock> sp38: geany
[20:32] <sp38> ok wafflejock thanks let me try
[20:32] <wildwind> sp38: see wafflejock's answer above
[20:32] <PDilyard> sp38: i use sublime text 3
[20:32] <bekks> sp38: gvim :D
[20:33] <vizgix> nano is probably the built in one
[20:33] <PDilyard> bekks is hardcore :)
[20:33] <vizgix> ill try and check back
[20:33] <wafflejock> bekks: is hardcore+1
[20:33] <sp38> ok thanks all let me try
[20:33] <vizgix> err.. how do i exit irssi
[20:33] <wildwind> PDilyard: ed is true hardcore
[20:33] <wafflejock> yeah sublime text is by far my favorite for development but I never got my vi chops
[20:34] <naptic> nope didnt work
[20:34] <naptic> still the same message
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> naptic, What didn't work be descriptive and use nicks. Did you save the bootinfo summary?
[20:35] <hydester> Can anybody recommend an inexpensive hard drive enclosure (usb) that supports ubuntu?  i was reading about the Vantec NexStar TX and then saw talks about it not being support by Linux/Ubuntu.  Not sure of the details or how that would be, but this is new to me.
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> hydester, 1000's of external usb HD boxes most should work.
[20:37] <ania> clear
[20:37] <ania> haha
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> hydester, Buy from a source that takes returns is all in case there is problems.
[20:37] <wildwind> hydester: only the cheapest ones may not work. at all :)
[20:37] <Harmageddon> Hi folks! I'm still messing around with my graphics problems. I just reinstalled Ubuntu 13.10, it worked fine with nomodeset. Then, I installed nvidia-319 via apt-get and ran nvidia-xconfig. After rebooting, I get the login screen (in very small resolution), but after logging in, the screen stays black, I only see my cursor.
[20:37] <Harmageddon> Graphics card is a nVidia GeForce GT 750M.
[20:38] <ania> Harmagedon youre not alone
[20:38] <PDilyard> speaking of graphics cards: nvidia geforce gtx 650 or ati radeon hd 7790?
[20:39] <ania> there is some problem with new kernel.......i was able to see login screen but coulndt login to system at all
[20:39] <hydester> wilee-nilee: yeah, just defective vs incompatible may be issue with some returns.  wasn't sure if there was any criteria or some wiki listing compatible devices
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> Harmageddon, Do you have a dual card setup perchance run lspci and identify the graphic hardware
[20:40] <Harmageddon> wilee-nilee: Yes, I do: http://imgur.com/wgXsq4m
[20:40] <ania> Harmagedon are u there
[20:40] <ania> ?
[20:40] <vizgix> Greetings, Im VIZ, Im having trouble with my DNS for my webhosting with installed program webmin on my ec2 amazon ubuntu server. I do not recall how to change settings on webmin, I believe I have use an editor to open the file once i 'ls'. nano did work, but i didnt get legible code. Im lost. also please bear with me as im ussing irssi via cmd line
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> hydester, Not really, I bought a really cheap one from amazon and it did not work in linux, but bought another about the same price that did, you get what you pay for to some extent.
[20:41] <hydester> wilee-nilee: did you have to pay return shipping to amazon?
[20:41] <joossee> guys i just compiled a file but I donut know how to execute it?
[20:41] <Harmageddon> ania: I'm here. I tried almost everything so far, but nothing works for me. :( Wondering, why the first start after installation works fine, but from then on, it stops working...
[20:41] <ania> Harmagedon can u press crt+alt+f1 ....login ....there.....than write "dmesg" look for some error notice
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> Harmageddon, So from waht I understand the nvidia kicks in when needed, otherwise the other card runs in general, not an area I'm real up on really.
[20:42] <ania> pr if possible stay with orginal graphic settings and drivers in system
[20:43] <vizgix> anyone hosted with webmin or used ubuntu servers
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> hydester, I did not return that one, but it depends on why you return, I forget the choice that generally guarantees no charge.
[20:43] <padrino> You know if I install Ubuntu to my laptop will it overwrite Windows or install alongside it?
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> padrino, Either it is your choice.
[20:44] <PDilyard> padrino: you can do either
[20:44] <PDilyard> yeah, what he said
[20:44] <padrino> Do I get the choice during the installation steps? Because I don't want to install, overwrite Windows and realised I missed out something to disable overwriting?
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> padrino, So is this W8?
[20:45] <vizgix> sigh, only plebs here
[20:45] <padrino> Why you being so condescending vizgix
[20:45] <k1l_> webmin got kicked out of the debian and ubuntu repos anyway.
[20:46] <padrino> I could same the same about you (call you a pleb) for not knowing as much about a subject as me, such as music, football etc
[20:46] <PDilyard> padrino: he left
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> padrino, They are gone, don;t drop to their level. ;)
[20:46] <PDilyard> :)
[20:46] <k1l_> padrino: you will get asked if you want to install ubuntu on the whole harddisk(erase windows) or to install it alongside
[20:47] <padrino> Alright thanks for help guys, I appreciate it :-)
[20:47] <Harmageddon> ania: http://zweiiconkram.de/dmesg.txt
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> padrino, My concern here is if you have W8 and a uefi computer and how many primary partitions are there now.
[20:48] <Harmageddon> ania: maybe this one? --> *ERROR* Cannot initialize the agpgart module.
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> padrino, And if you know what I'm talking about. ;)
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> heh, gone oh well
[20:49] <dewdgang-frank> arrr
[20:49] <PDilyard> i would really appreciate if people would stop storming off stage!
[20:49] <dewdgang-frank> still didnt get ubuntu working on my sd card :<
[20:50] <Jebus> okay  the update manager is still messed up how do I fix it
[20:50] <gordonjcp> PDilyard: people do that when they don't get instant answers to their poorly-described problems :-)
[20:50] <PDilyard> heh
[20:50] <ania> Harmagedon WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 1463 at /build/buildd/linux-3.11.0/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_pm.c:5095 i915_request_power_well+0x77/0x80 [i915]
[20:50] <ania> try on google it
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> naptic, Did you install bootrepair and run it and save the bootinfo summary?
[20:53] <Jebus> the update manager is messed up how do I fix it?
[20:53] <Jordan_U> !details | Jebus
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in the terminal and pastebin all the info.
[20:54] <gordonjcp> PDilyard: I'm amazed how many people ask about webmin then go off in a snit when they're told it's not supported
[20:54] <Mathieuh> hey guys do you know what program run in weechat at the bottom of this http://pascalpoitras.com/2013/05/25/my-weechat-configuration/
[20:55] <PDilyard> gordonjcp: im amazed at how many people go off in a snit at all, i mean this isnt paid support
[20:55] <Jordan_U> dewdgang-frank: GRUB is needed to be able to boot. Did you boot Ubuntu's installer via EFI or BIOS? (If you used Apple's boot menu and selected "Windows", you booted via BIOS).
[20:55] <[Gentoo]> what bit?
[20:55] <gordonjcp> PDilyard: true
[20:55] <[Gentoo]> Mathieuh: ^
[20:55] <Mathieuh> [Gentoo], the part with sysinfo
[20:55] <Jebus> There is a red ! at the top right hand corner I press it and it open update manager and when I check for updates it says Failed to download repository information Check your internet connection
[20:55] <Harmageddon> ania (seems to be gone): All I get on google are a few pastebins
[20:56] <Richhh> 3GHz Celeron 1GB RAM fast enough to encrypt home folder without much slowdown?
[20:56] <Richhh> in lubuntu
[20:56] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U Apples Boot manager. GRUB always fails on the installation at the end of the installation but the installation finishes anyway
[20:56] <[Gentoo]> Mathieuh: at the bottom right? conky?
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Are you on the net otherwise?
[20:56] <Mathieuh> conky ok thanks!
[20:56] <Jordan_U> dewdgang-frank: Did Apple's boot manager call it "Windows" or "Ubuntu" though?
[20:56] <[Gentoo]> it says conky in bold red you noob lol
[20:56] <Mathieuh> lol i am
[20:56] <Jebus> yes
[20:57] <Mathieuh> [Gentoo], i read beauty not conky at first
[20:57] <Mathieuh> lol
[20:57] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U After Ubuntu is installed on my SD Card, I reboot, hold the option key on my macbook pro and it only offers me Mac OS X to boot from. Or the Ubuntu live CD when its inserted. No Ubuntu from SD Card to chose
[20:57] <[Gentoo]> Mathieuh: :)
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Have you modified the sources.list or changed it's access?
[20:58] <Jebus> Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 12.04 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20120423)/dists/precise/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs This is what it says when I run sudo apt-get update
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, This an install?
[20:58] <bjensen82> When I try to setup ssmtp it stalls. That is when I try to test the configuration: ssmtp "foo" my-email@gmail.com and I press enter...nothing happens..
[20:58] <Jordan_U> dewdgang-frank: I want to know, when you booted Ubuntu's *installer*, did you use Apple's built in boot manager, and if so did the option for booting Ubuntu's installer have a "Windows" label or an "Ubuntu" label (or something else)?
[20:59] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U Oh, sorry. Yes it always says Windows. I thought this would be some kind of known bug or something.
[20:59] <[Gentoo]> Richhh: yes
[20:59] <Richhh> Forums say encrypting the home folder negligibly impacts performance on 'modern PCs', have 3GHz Celeron 1GB RAM - fast enough?
[20:59] <[Gentoo]> Richhh: it will work
[20:59] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U Never ever saw the Ubuntu label when i booted from Ubuntu 12 or 13 live CD
[20:59] <Richhh> [Gentoo] ok thanks
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> Richhh: no idea how much cpu usage it would cost
[21:00] <gordonjcp> Richhh: I tried it on a 3GHz Core 2 Duo with 4GB of RAM and it worked, but it absolutely crippled performance
[21:00] <Jordan_U> dewdgang-frank: That means that it's trying to boot via Apple's BIOS implementation rather than via EFI, and since you want an EFI based installtion you want to boot the installer via EFI.
[21:00] <Jebus> not that I know of under that is says Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> Richhh: it also depends on your hdd
[21:00] <Jordan_U> dewdgang-frank: What image did you use, and did you burn it to an actual CD/DVD?
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> if its an ssd then encryption will slow it
[21:00] <gordonjcp> Richhh: ten minutes to load a 14MB image, for example
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> !who | Jebus
[21:00] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U I used the latest Ubuntu 12 Image 64 bit
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> gordonjcp: seriously thats not normal
[21:00] <gordonjcp> [Gentoo]: <shrug>
[21:01] <Jordan_U> dewdgang-frank: Please answer all of my questions.
[21:01] <gordonjcp> [Gentoo]: it was only an experiment, I'd never seriously consider using encrypted disks *anyway*
[21:01] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U and I burned it on a CD
[21:01]  * gordonjcp -> pint
[21:01] <gordonjcp> later all
[21:01] <Jebus> I can see the ones targeted to me they are in red
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, What you describe in the apt-get update sounds like a live cd/usb enviroment, is this correct?
[21:01] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U Sorry im not that fast and pretty sleepless since trying this for ages :-)
[21:02] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U Imagefilename is:
[21:02] <wildwind> Richhh: you can measure it by creating a small volume and testing
[21:02] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:02] <Jebus> I downloaded ubuntu 12.04 using a disc from the Cannonical website
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Use nicks.
[21:03] <pfifo> Jebus: you are being asked to do the same for other users ;) start your comments with a persons name.
[21:03] <Jordan_U> dewdgang-frank: See if you can boot the intaller via UEFI from rEFIt, booting the installer via UEFI should make the install succeed, though you can fix things manually even when booting the installer via BIOS.
[21:03] <Jebus> !tab
[21:03] <Jebus> !nicks
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, I live environment using just the cd has limitations, what is your end goal here?
[21:04] <wolfspy> hi
[21:04] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U Okay, I already tried it with rEFIt, some people say its outdated. So I should stick with "refind". Currently on http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ and trying to download it. Feeling pretty dumb, wheres the dl link :F
[21:04] <wolfspy> im having trouble installing ubuntu 13
[21:05] <[Gentoo]> wolfspy: how
[21:05] <wolfspy> whenever I select any options once the live cd has booted, it says kernal panic
[21:05] <[Gentoo]> thats no good then
[21:05] <wolfspy> and I think it says it could not write to something
[21:05] <Jebus> To stop using windows was my original end goal but then I decided I wanted to do stuff for security companies
[21:05] <wolfspy> it does that with linux mint too
[21:06] <[Gentoo]> hw issue probably
[21:06] <wolfspy> whats hq
[21:06] <wolfspy> hw*
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Type the first few letters of a persons nick than hot tab to complete it than answer them.
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> hit*
[21:06] <[Gentoo]> wolfspy: have you tried booting with the bare minimum (nothing else plugged in)
[21:07] <wolfspy> what do you mean
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Can we get that squared away?
[21:07] <wolfspy> like to moniters or mouse or anything]
[21:07] <wolfspy> no*
[21:07] <wafflejock> wolfspy: hardware
[21:07] <[Gentoo]> or if theres any key words in the panic, or take a photo and upload
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> !who
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> read that people
[21:08] <wolfspy> before the opetions menu opens, it sayssomething about no root
[21:08] <wafflejock> wolfspy: boot free of any USB devices except the bare essentials keyboard monitor
[21:08] <Jebus> wil yep
[21:08] <wolfspy> im on a laptop
[21:08] <pfifo> wilee-nilee: ok
[21:08] <wolfspy> I have 2 moniters
[21:08] <wafflejock> wolfspy: boot just on the laptop no extras to see if you have any luck so you can narrow down the issue
[21:08] <Jebus> wilee-nilee, yep
[21:08] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U I have been using the tutorial from http://www.michaelevans.org/blog/2013/01/15/boot-ubuntu-from-an-sd-card-on-your-macbook-air/
[21:08] <wolfspy> ok
[21:08] <wolfspy> ill take a picture of it as well
[21:09] <wolfspy> bye
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, Heh sorry but we have a handful of user here not using nicks is all.
[21:09] <DebianIsHARD> hey guys, "greeter-hide-users=true" is not working on the latest version of ubuntu desktop
[21:09] <DebianIsHARD> any idea?
[21:09] <[Gentoo]> DebianIsHARD: what is that from?
[21:09] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U Im trying it now again booting it via rEFIt again. Maybe I have some luck. Otherwise I will come here again :D :D
[21:09] <DebianIsHARD> lightdm.conf
[21:09] <[Gentoo]> ah ok sort of guessed
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Excellent, so the live cd does not do updates unless you modify the sources.list and wont save any changes unless you have a persistent setup which you would need it on a usb to do.
[21:10] <nir> wille
[21:10] <DebianIsHARD> any ideas why it isn't working? seems like this is the popular tweak to not list usernames on the logon screen but perhaps not working with latest version
[21:10] <nir> Gentoo - arm
[21:10] <nir> Iron
[21:10] <nir> DalnET
[21:11] <DebianIsHARD> [Gentoo]: am i spot on?
[21:11] <nir> #room
[21:11] <nir> SecCct
[21:11] <[Gentoo]> DebianIsHARD: no idea
[21:11] <nbursh> hi all
[21:11] <nir> Source %%9I or FILE name R-09
[21:11] <nbursh> is someone here?
[21:11] <nir> Debian 7 REL
[21:12] <bekks> nbursh: several hundreds.
[21:12] <DJones> nir: This channel is for Ubuntu support, do you have a support issue relating to Ubuntu?
[21:12] <[Gentoo]> nir: what are you spammin
[21:12] <k1l_> nir: please stop that nonsense
 so pretty much I am screwed
[21:12] <nir> any BH?
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Not sure really, you can load a usb with persistence, or just install if you want to have a OS that is the same on a reboot.
[21:13] <nbursh> can anyone help me? when I type software-center it says: ImportError: No module named gi.repository
[21:14] <nir> GoMEZ
  that is the thing the reason why I bought the CD was because windows 8 wouldn't let me boot from a usb or a CD that I made
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, If you want to learn security stuff there are OS's that are designed to run on a usb with no saves like kali linux, but it is not supported here.
[21:15] <trism> DebianIsHARD: do you have greeter-show-manual-login=true as well? I think you need both these days for it to work in unity-greeter
[21:15] <DebianIsHARD> trism: yes i do
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, W8 has a different setup is is uefi, here lets have the bot tell you.
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Jebus
[21:15] <DebianIsHARD> trism: i need it to login to domain
  I have used Kali before but I have more understanding with Ubuntu
[21:16] <Harmageddon> Does anybody have an idea how I could get more than a cursor on a black screen after logging in to Ubuntu 13.10?
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Cool, so you see the bots uefi info? is this a W8 installed by the manufacturer?
[21:17] <[Gentoo]> Harmageddon: try ctrl+alt+f2
  W8 was install by the manufacturer
[21:18] <nbursh> -///Guys, If I install win xp on extern hd, will it remove win 7 launcher?
[21:18] <[Gentoo]> yes
[21:18] <Harmageddon> [Gentoo]: Yes, tty1 - tty6 are working, but I'd like to have a graphical interface sometimes ;)
[21:18] <[Gentoo]> nbursh: if its the same drive
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Thanks, so getting a usb/cd to boot is a little more work, along with the dualboot, are you at all familiar with uefi?
[21:18] <[Gentoo]> nbursh: if not then it should be ok
[21:19] <trism> DebianIsHARD: just tested and it is working here, are you using unity-greeter? if it is lightdm-kde greeter instead there is bug 1237684
[21:19] <dewdgang-frank> ok now formatting and creating 2 partitions on my sd card for the ubuntu installation even fails :/
[21:19] <dewdgang-frank> damn
[21:19] <nbursh> Gentoo I want to install win xp from usb device, I have win 7 installed on my hdd, but I want to install xp on extern hd (connected with usb)
  I am not familiar with uefi but the thing is when I put Ubuntu on I Erased W8
[21:20] <[Gentoo]> nbursh: never tried it so no idea
[21:20] <[Gentoo]> not sure what will happen
[21:21] <[Gentoo]> if it lets you install XP to that drive it should be fine
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Ah, that can happen, you can get a oem disc set from the manufacturer if you want it back, if you have no backup. Are you sure its gone, or just wont boot?
[21:21] <Harmageddon> nbursh: Should work, but you will have to plug in your external drive always in order to boot
[21:21] <[Gentoo]> nbursh: i would unplug all other drives to be safe
[21:21] <nbursh> Does win xp installer have option where to install launcher? Or it is installing automatically?
[21:21] <[Gentoo]> auto
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, You are on the ubuntu cd now correct?
[21:22] <unicornjedi> hello, I'm using ubuntu saucy salamander. I have a problem with drag and dropping applications to my desktop. I want to be able to make desktop shortcuts. I receive this error.... There was an error getting information about “/”.
[21:23] <dewdgang-frank> :/
[21:23] <unicornjedi> can someone help me?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> nbursh, That's a ##windows topic
[21:23] <nbursh> sorry, I know it
[21:23] <Mathieuh> [Gentoo], it was wrriten like Conky
[21:23] <Mathieuh> ?
[21:23] <Mathieuh> Conky
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> unicornjedi, Probably just relax and enjoy the time.
[21:23] <[Gentoo]> Mathieuh: conky
[21:23] <[Gentoo]> is the package
[21:23] <Mathieuh> ok thanks
[21:24] <unicornjedi> wilee-nilee, um.... so I should be at peace with this problem?
[21:24] <k1l_> !conky | Mathieuh
[21:24] <oal> I have an external USB drive connected, but ubuntu has changed its mount point. How can I change it back? Unmounting and mounting again brings it to the new mount point
  I haven't tried to boot W8 and I don't really want the W8 CD and yes I am on Ubuntu as we speak
[21:25] <k1l_> Mathieuh: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky as a start
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> unicornjedi, Not necessarily, but realize you are one of 1700 people on the channel and have some patience. ;)
[21:26] <chro> hi
[21:26] <chro> how can I see the ip of the other computers connected to my WAN ?
[21:27] <unicornjedi> wilee-nilee, um okay... :/
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, So just removing W8 and installing ubuntu is not exactly as it used to be as far as a simple install, with a uefi setup is all. You can most likely have what you want if you know how to do it and or someone helps you and the communication is clear as to what you want exactly.
[21:27] <chro> there was a routing table containing that info, but I forgot the command to access them
[21:27] <wildwind> chro: you mean LAN i suppose?
[21:27] <chro> wildwind, yes
[21:27] <chro> sorry
[21:28] <ShadowStrider> What to do if i get S.M.A.R.T. errors related to windows / ubuntu dualboot?
[21:28] <PDilyard> unicornjedi: quick google search, try this maybe? http://askubuntu.com/questions/142159/desktop-shortcut-to-create-a-new-desktop-shortcut-doesnt-do-anything
[21:28] <PDilyard> note: i have not tested
[21:28] <wildwind> chro: there's no such table AFAIK
[21:28] <tnk1> Anyone know how to get user_xattr to properly activate on root (trying to utilize the netfliex desktop ppa/app)?
  I want to be able to update my ubuntu Os and get ride of the red ! on the top right hand corner of my screen
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, On a live cd?
[21:29] <chro> wildc4rd, you're right. However I found the ips through this command: nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24
[21:29] <wildwind> chro: if you know their names, use host command
[21:29] <alumno> buenas
[21:29] <chro> tks
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Open gparted and take a screenshot of it and put it in a imagebin.
  I don't have to put the cd in on start up
  okay
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, What is your native language, I have the feeling we are not communicating clearly.
  English and I am so confused
[21:32] <pfifo> ShadowStrider: backup your important data and order a new harddrive to replace the bad one
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Ah, okay, fir me seeing the gparted image will answer a few questions I have asked which you have not answered is all.
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> for*
[21:33] <unicornjedi> wilee-nilee, Thank you, but it seems inefficient compared to drag and drop
[21:33] <Guest3276> i tried to boot the live dvd 13.10, but after the grub screen it is all black (waited 45min), so i added the nomodeset now i get past the ubuntu splash screen but the gui doesnt start up and i am stuck on the check list of start up items
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> Guest3276, Have you checked the md5sum?
  can you reask the questions I might be able to answer them. I might not have seen them
[21:34] <Guest3276> wilee-nilee: yes i have
[21:34] <Guest3276> wilee-nilee: i also burnt 2 dvd and both failed to boot
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Okay, so you are trying to fix this red notice while using the live cd?
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> Guest3276, Did you burn them as slow as possible? Is this on a computer that has say W8?
[21:35] <Guest3276> wilee-nilee: i should point out i am using the computer right now, i can get to a TTY1 and sun apt-get install irssi then i loged in here
[21:36] <Guest3276> wilee-nilee: the first dvd i burnt at max speed the second on 2x
  No when I first installed ubuntu I erased the hard disk and but ubuntu on the hard disk instead of using it as a live cd
[21:36] <Guest3276> Guest3276: i also tried a usb penboot, same deal
[21:36] <Guest3276> wilee-nilee: ^
[21:37] <pfifo> you highlighted yourself?
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> Guest3276: can you install pastebinit and get us your dmesg and Xorg log. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:37] <pfifo> pfifo: you are awesome
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> Guest3276, so what happens if you run sudo start lightdm from the tty?
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Can you boot that ubuntu install?
  No, I have tried
  I meant I have tried to reinstall ubuntu sorry your question confused me
[21:39] <Guest3276> wilee-nilee: i chucks my right back to the first boot screen, the one listing all the checks preforming with PASS next to there name. what is this start check screen caled
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Okay, so lets see that gparted screenshot, I will have the bot give you some info to make it easier
[21:39] <Guest3276> hitsujiTMO: yes i can do that, give me a few minutes
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> !screenshot | Jebus
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> Guest3276, Not sure I can really help if the nomodeset option does not even get you to the desktop on a live dvd, sorry.
[21:40] <pvl1> hey im getting errors with the fglrx propriety driver from the repos
 The red notice isn't up as of right not it pops up radomly but I can show you the update manager
[21:42] <x_root> how to know the name of service/command?
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, I think you are not understanding that the live cd enviroment has limitations it is not designed to just run a update without changing part of a file called the sources.list, it is reading the disc not the ubuntu repos.
[21:42] <nightwalkerkg> Hi. I am using Ubuntu 13.10,is there a way to install Gnome 3.10 on it ?
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> nightwalkerkg, From a ppa yes, however it is not supported here.
[21:42] <supergauntlet> i believe the gnome team has a ppa
[21:43] <nightwalkerkg> wilee-nilee: Ok,where can i get support for that ?
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> nightwalkerkg, It also has warnings on trying it.
[21:43] <pfifo> x_root: `service --status-all`
 what type of limitations
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> nightwalkerkg, The maintainer of the ppa, if your lucky.
 do you still want me to put up the sceenshot
[21:44] <tnk1> Anyone?
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, I have addressed this numerous times, we are going in circles here, I have to step away from trying to help you anymore, sorry.
[21:44] <Guest3276> hitsujiTMO: dmesg log: paste.ubuntu.com/6428672
[21:44] <x_root> pfifo, thanks
[21:44] <tnk1> Anyone know how to get user_xattr to properly activate on root (trying to utilize the netfliex desktop ppa/app)?
[21:44] <pfifo> Jebus: the livecd is limited in such that... you cant update it. (cdroms are read only)
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, thanks. ;)
[21:46] <hitsujiTMO> Guest3276: so this is a mac?
[21:46] <pfifo> Jebus: so to get rid of the red ! on your livecd's desktop, simple get a roll of electrical tape, tear or cut a smapp peice of it off the roll, and place the piece on your monitor over top of the red !
 I understand that but I installed it to my hard disk and no longer have to put the cd in as I turn on the computer
[21:46] <Guest3276> hitsujiTMO: yes
[21:46] <hitsujiTMO> Guest3276: are you using the mac specific iso?
[21:47] <Guest3276> hitsujiTMO: i am not
[21:47] <Guest3276> hitsujiTMO: do you have a link please
[21:48] <pfifo> Jebus: you just said, the install was broken when you tried to reinstall, you really cant have it both ways, is it working and booting from an installed ubuntu, or is it broken and booting from a livecd when the red ! is appearing?
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> Guest3276: http://releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/ try the amd64+mac iso and come back if the issue is still there
[21:48] <Guest3276> hitsujiTMO: no worries i will google it, thanks for the help
[21:48] <Guest3276> hitsujiTMO: will do, thanks for you time :-D
[21:48] <Guest3276> wilee-nilee: thanks again wilee-nilee
 Maybe I could water cool the computer LULZ, no, I don't know if the boot is broken I am extremely new to ubuntu
[21:50] <pfifo> Jebus: ok can you, take the cdrom out of your computer, reboot, and boot the system without using the cd?
  I am not using the cd as we speak
[21:51] <pfifo> Jebus: open a terminal and run this command 'lsb_release -sc' and tell me what it says
[21:52] <Jebus> precise, that is all it says
[21:53] <Cheekio> is it possible for my ubuntu laptop to act as a router over its one ethernet port?
[21:53] <pfifo> Jebus: to update your system, run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' if you encounter any errors pastebin all the output from the command
[21:55] <wildwind> Cheekio: yes of course
[21:56] <Cheekio> @wildwind, I'm having trouble finding directions. I thought I was asking about "bridging" but that seems to be a different thing.
[21:56] <Cheekio> Is there a utils program I should be looking up? What do you even call acting as a wired router?
  http://pastebin.com/ZvhSQKWG
[21:58] <wolfspy> im having issues installing ubuntu
[21:58] <wolfspy> 13
[21:59] <wildwind> Cheekio: there's plenty of guides. check this for ex. http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/133-general-linux/741408-how-to-configure-ubuntu-as-a-router
[21:59] <wolfspy> whenever I click options on the disk, it says kernal panic
[21:59] <wolfspy> http://imgur.com/tGOv3jf then http://imgur.com/FzZ4svO
[21:59] <wolfspy> what is wrong?
[22:00] <wolfspy> I already tried unplugging all hardware, and this happens with mint too
[22:00] <Cheekio> thanks wildwind
[22:00] <Cheekio> !
[22:00] <pfifo> Jebus: ok heres the main issue then, why do you have cdrom based sources in an installed system?
[22:00] <robenchain> hello all.  I recently installed 13.10 and now my shockwave flash isn't working.  how do i resolve the issue?
[22:00] <lj1102> Hey, anyone knows how i can "drop" a usb device? I got a usb device that just needs power but should not be detected by ubuntu
[22:00] <lj1102> @robechain what browser do you use?
  how do I change it
[22:01] <wolfspy> anyone?
[22:01] <robenchain> Google Chrome
[22:01] <Cen1nant> Google Chrome.
[22:01] <lj1102> @robenchain what exactly do you see where the fash content should be?
[22:01] <pfifo> Jebus: if you dont know why its like that then you should format and reinstall cause something is wrong.
[22:02] <robenchain> "Couldn't load plugin"
[22:02] <lj1102> have you tried to update chrome?
  It won't let met reinstall I have already tried
[22:02] <lj1102> otherwise you could try to uninstall and reinstall it
[22:02] <pfifo> Jebus: why wont it let you reinstall?
[22:03] <lj1102> or check chrome://plugins
 my computer sucks and I got rid of my orginal OS
[22:04] <devon> Jebus: Is it better with your new OS?
[22:04] <pfifo> Jebus: how is that stopping you from reinstalling?
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> wolfspy: have you verified the md5 of the iso file? and are you booting from cd or usb?
 my computer is way better with the new OS
[22:05] <wolfspy> hitsujiTMO, I have not verified the md5, as I have no idea how to do that. Im booting from dvd.
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> wolfspy: what OS is on the pc already?
[22:05] <wolfspy> windows 7
[22:06] <pfifo> Jebus: you still havent explained why you cant reinstall.
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, Not sure if this is helpful, but this user has a uefi computer, and supposedly W8 as removed on that install.
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> was*
 I don't know why I can't
[22:07] <hitsujiTMO> wolfspy: you can find the md5 sums here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes   how to md5sum the iso here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM     if the md5sum is correct try reburning the dvd as slow as possible
[22:07] <wolfspy> hitsujiTMO, ok
[22:07] <pfifo> Jebus: what happens when you try?
[22:08] <Cheekio> holy moly
[22:08] <wolfspy> hitsujiTMO, What software should I use to burn, you can't select write speeds with the windows disk imager
[22:08] <Cheekio> this wildwind this is way over my head
 It just continues to run as normal as if it won't reinstall
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> wolfspy: imgburn is pretty good
[22:09] <wolfspy> ok
[22:09] <wolfspy> thanks
[22:10] <pfifo> Jebus I think you should try again and pay closer attention to what is going wrong so that I can give you advice on how to get past
 okay  I will be on later, I have to go help my dad
[22:11] <pfifo> Jebus: ok good luck
[22:11] <wolfspy> The MD5 sums are the same
[22:12] <medkom> anyone come frome australia??
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> medkom  what difference does it make?
[22:13] <Esor> Hi
[22:13] <Esor> I need help
[22:13] <Esor> I installed nvidia-prime
[22:13] <Esor> and after I remove it
[22:13] <pfifo> MonkeyDust: obivously austrilian must give better ubuntu support
[22:13] <Esor> I have black screen :(
[22:13] <Esor> *removed
[22:13] <wildwind> Cheekio: i'm afraid it can't be simpler than that
[22:13] <Esor> tried to install bumblebee again
[22:13] <Esor> and it didn
[22:13] <Esor> t help
[22:13] <FloodBot1> Esor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:14] <k1l_> Esor: please dont press enter that much. put all in one line
[22:14] <Esor> sorry k1l_
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> Esor  don't abuse the enter key, it has rights, too
[22:14] <medkom> hi
[22:15] <Esor> do you have any idea how to fix it guys please?
[22:16] <wheatthin> Esor, do you at least get a console prompt?
[22:16] <Cheekio> @wildwind, I think the way sample IP addresses are included is confusing me for some reason. I'll let you know if I get this right.
[22:16] <Esor> yes i switched to alt + f2
[22:16] <Esor> then I logged in and removed nvidia-prime and bumblebee
[22:16] <Cheekio> I'm trying to connect to my raspberry pi over ethernet, as I don't have a spare monitor handy
[22:17] <Cheekio> And the wifi on it isn't set to automatically connect to open networks
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> Cheekio  running ubuntu?
[22:17] <Esor> and I get error massages and black screen. Sorry for using enter too much again.
[22:17] <wheatthin> Esor, for now, you can edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and scroll down under your driver name and put VESA, get a generic screen
[22:17] <Cheekio> MonkeyDust: I'm running ubuntu on my laptop
[22:17] <Cheekio> Raspbian on the Pi
[22:17] <Esor> ahh right
[22:17] <Esor> the problem with nvidia-prime is
[22:17] <wolfspy> im pretty sure its not the disk. I found another ubuntu disk that worked on my other computer. Same error
[22:17] <Esor> chromium looks like it was lunched by wine
[22:18] <rmobenchain> I hve Ubuntu 13.10, running Chrome but am having issues with Shockwave ...
[22:18] <pfifo> wheatthin: the is no xorg.conf anymore
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> Cheekio  200+ people in #raspbian
[22:18] <wolfspy> wait, think I found the fix
[22:18] <Esor> ah pfifo so what else can i edit?
[22:18] <pfifo> Esor: have you rebooted after doing the uninstall?
[22:18] <Esor> I've just reminded xorg fix from the past but
[22:19] <Esor> yes I did
[22:19] <Cheekio> lol
[22:19] <Esor> tried various fixes
[22:19] <Cheekio> MonkeyDust, I've asked a couple of questions there too
[22:19] <pfifo> Esor: run, 'sudo update-initramfs' and when its finished reboot
[22:19] <koyetsu> stupid question. ubuntu 12.04 LTS 2 NICS eth0 and eth1. eth0 is the inet connected nic dhcp provided ip. eth1 is a static on a seperate switch that has dhcpd bound to it. before setting up eth1 i was able to see the internet, now i cannot. trying to fix that and set routing/forwarding between them. anyone have a good resource they can point me to cause i've not had luck. most say to use the
[22:19] <koyetsu> route add command and it didn't work.
[22:20] <rmobenchain> Is there a ubuntu forum to help with shockwave issues since the upgrade to 13.10?
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Chrome has built in flash, why the shockwave?
[22:20] <Esor> pfifo, thanks I will try. Anyway do you know why after install nvidia-prime chromium looks like was lunched by wine and bunch of error messages?
[22:20] <ikonia> koyetsu: sounds like your default route is screwed
[22:20] <ResQue> MonkeyDust: hey i tried that nomodest idea of yours yesterday (if you recall the live cd would boot to a blank screen) it sort of fixed the issue i get past the splash screen but i dont get any GUI i can get the the shell though TYY1 any ideas
[22:20] <koyetsu> i figured that it's trying to resolve through eth1
[22:21] <ikonia> koyetsu: check the routes to see where traffic should go and where it is going
[22:21] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles ... I'm just repeating what I'm being told on sites with shockwave flash.  Says "Unable to load plugins"
[22:21] <pfifo> Esor: no, havent used a graphic card since my gaming rig died
[22:21] <ikonia> koyetsu: the default route will be key
[22:21] <Esor> pfifo, I will reboot now
[22:22] <koyetsu> when i type route the default line is this "default   ubuntu.local    0.0.0.0    UG    100    0     0    eth1"
[22:22] <ikonia> kermit: route does not show all routes
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, You may be trying to access sites that just wont work in linux.
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Any links?
[22:23] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles ... would that include the flash test page?
[22:23] <ikonia> kermit: ubuntu.local is normally the loopback interface
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, You can tab complete nicks so that they are correct.
[22:25] <wheatthin> Hmm
[22:26] <koyetsu> the other 2 lines have a * where gateway is. but i know i defined the gateway in my /etc/network/interfaces  i'm looking at it now and i have a gateway....errr maybe iu just figured out the problem. would having a gateway defined in both nics cause the problem?
[22:27] <ikonia> koyetsu: that would depend on your network, do you need a gateway for both interfaces, I suspect not, I suspect both devices should NOT have a gateway, but your public internet should have a default route assigned to it
[22:34] <p1und3r> hello all, has anyone had an issue with ubuntu 13.10 using nvidia-current drivers where tty1-6 work but the font is shaking basically
[22:35] <gndlp> howdy all, I am on 13.10 and just installed the amd catalyst drives and xserver is hanging after login. All i am seeing is the background. in my /var/log/Xorg log the last thing i am seeing is fire_gl_SetSuspendResumeState FAILED -9. Not sure if that is normal or not. I am running a XFX 6870.
[22:35] <bunduru> hi
[22:36] <HeathHayle> At lest I get this lol http://d.pr/i/vLQC
[22:36] <reisio> bunduru: hi
[22:37] <HeathHayle> i didnt even think it would go that far lol
[22:37] <ResQue> for 12.04 LTS there was a AMD64 mac addition in alternative downloads, but there is not one in the 13.04 LTS version. will the new 13.04 work on mac???
[22:37] <zykotick9> ResQue: 13.04 is not an LTS... just sayin'
[22:38] <gndlp> any ideas on how to uninstall catalyst from 13.10 so it will roll back to the failsafe drivers?
[22:38] <ResQue> zykotick9: i see, i thought all *.04 where long term versions. is there a reason why?
[22:38] <zykotick9> ResQue: nope.  every 2 years the .04 is LTS
[22:38] <desmosomes> Why is a samba file copy from a Win7 box only executing at 35KB/s?
[22:39] <ResQue> zykotick9: thanks for the heads up. i will stick with the 12.04 version for now then
[22:39] <ResQue> zykotick9: would i be right in thinking *.04 are more stable, but have less bleeeding edge updates?
[22:40] <zykotick9> ResQue: not really... LTS vs non-LTS are both VERY similar IMO!
[22:40] <Kuwait> hi , i have problem , i install windows 8.1 , then install ubuntu 13.10 , both 64 bit , but there are no grup boot loader , only boot windows and didt boot the ubuntu grub boot loader
[22:41] <ResQue> zykotick9: i see, i am having issues boot the new 13.10 version on a macbook pro, i just get a black screen, i added the nomodset boot option and now i get stuck on tty1 with no GUI
[22:41] <desmosomes> The samba share on the Win7 machine is a public folder
[22:41] <lj1102> when i connect a second screen it works for a few seconds and then turns into "no signal" mode and is not displayed in display manager anymore, anyone knows what this is about?
[22:41] <zykotick9> ResQue: sorry, I have no suggestion(s).  Best of luck.
[22:41] <ResQue> zykotick9: thanks
[22:42] <Kuwait> what i mean , boot windows 8 dirctley
[22:43] <desmosomes> If I sync the file with dropbox, I can get a clean 30MB/s
[22:43] <desmosomes> but samba results in 35KB/s
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> Kuwait, This a uefi setup or msdos using the mbr?
[22:46] <keber> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeH2Um-yOrA
[22:46] <keber> hello
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> keber, That is spam.
[22:47] <keber> yes bad joke
[22:47] <keber> sry
[22:47] <Kuwait> wilee-nilee really i dont know what the diff , in the flash memorey there are two option , first UEFI and the second option without UEFI , i install ubuntu by the second option
[22:48] <keber> can you say what music channel is, list is to large?
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> Kuwait, You might try the bootrepair from a live ubuntu dvd/usb to fix the boot, be sure to save the bootinfo summary. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:49] <pfifo> !alis | keber
[22:49] <keber> !alis
[22:49] <pfifo> keber try #defocus they love that kind of stuff
[22:49] <Kuwait> wilee-nilee do u have a tutorial for bootrepair
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> Kuwait, The link tells you what you need to know.
[22:50] <Kuwait> wilee-nilee my bad i didt see it , thanks
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> Kuwait, The maker of the app has a thread on it at the ubuntu forums, if you need their help in the end, heh no problem. ;)
[22:51] <Kuwait> :p ok
[22:53] <wtfak1310> herro
[22:53] <reisio> 'lo
[22:54] <wolfspy_> Hi
[22:54] <pvl1> can anyone please remind me how to run a terminal app on a different vt, something like :&vt7 or :07 was it
[22:54] <wolfspy_> I'm having trouble installing
[22:54] <reisio> pvl1: just use scree
[22:54] <reisio> screen*
[22:54] <keber> are you all billionaires?
[22:55] <wolfspy_> Not me
[22:55] <pvl1> reisio: im trying to fix my fglrx i just installed. i need to make sure that its gnome compatability with lightdm and not fglrx
[22:55] <pfifo> keber: this channel is for ubuntu support topics only please
[22:55] <pvl1> reisio: cuz i switched to lightdm from gdm
[22:55] <wolfspy> ok, let's type with a real keyboard...
[22:56] <wolfspy> im having troubles installing ubuntu 13 from a cd
[22:56] <reisio> wolfspy: what troubles
[22:56] <keber> so what i must do install ubuntu before using your topic
[22:57] <wolfspy> whenever I select an option from the grub thing that opens, it shows this error: http://imgur.com/tGOv3jf then http://imgur.com/FzZ4svO
[22:57] <Zap-W> what X ver is there in ubuntu 13.10
[22:57] <keber> i had ubuntu once, but my wifi dosent work
[22:58] <keber> chinease laptop
[22:58] <minimec> Did we have some complaints about linux-image 3.2.0-56 in combination with GPU in the #channel? I have 'a case' in ubuntu-fr with a strange unity behaviour after a kernel update.
[22:58] <pfifo> wolfspy: your cdrom is broken
[22:58] <wolfspy> i think it isnt
[22:58] <wolfspy> ive tried it with 3 different cd roms, and checked the md5 of all of them
[22:58] <induz> How can I import iPhone3 contacts on my Ubuntu 10?? no iTune or cloud please
[22:58] <bekks> induz: Impossible without iTunes.
[22:58] <Danato> can anybody tell me what scripts are executed at startup on kde and xfce please?
[22:59] <pfifo> wolfspy: did you md5 the iso file or the actual disc?
[22:59] <induz> bekk
[22:59] <induz> bekks: no options
[22:59] <wolfspy> pfifo, the iso. The instructions on how to md5 the disk only work on linux, and I'm on windows
[22:59] <bekks> induz: iTunes is the only option.
[23:00] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: are you there?
[23:00] <induz> i dont have Itunes
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: yes i am
[23:00] <induz> bek
[23:00] <bekks> induz: Then you cant access your Contacts.
[23:00] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: can you tell me in what script did you tell me to write the backlight settings again?
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum > wilee-nilee
[23:00] <pfifo> wolfspy: if im not mistaken, you can check the disk itself on boot, you just have to select it from the options it presents
[23:01] <induz> i have to write down all but its way too may
[23:01] <wolfspy> pfifo, it shows the error when I do that
[23:01] <reisio> wolfspy: http://www.etree.org/cgi-bin/counter.cgi/software/md5sum.exe
[23:01] <induz> what about Banshee
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum > wilee-nilee
[23:01] <pfifo> wolfspy: and you have no way to get to a linux command line?
[23:01] <wolfspy> pfifo, no
[23:02] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup
[23:02] <pfifo> wolfspy: can you boot any othe linux livecd's?
[23:02] <bekks> induz: Banshee cant access your Contacts. The only option is iTunes.
[23:02] <wolfspy> pfifo, unless I live boot debian
[23:02] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ah thanks man
[23:02] <wolfspy> all the ubuntu based distros don't work
[23:03] <reisio> oh here's a nice Windowsy one: http://www.sinf.gr/en/hashcalc.html
[23:03] <induz> bekks do i have to create an account with iTune
[23:03] <induz> I have never used ITunes
[23:03] <bekks> induz: You have to have an iTunes account, yes.
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> wolfspy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows
[23:03] <wolfspy> pfifo, will running within virtualbox work as a linux command line?
[23:03] <induz> is it free bekks
[23:03] <reisio> wolfspy: yeah, but that sounds involved
[23:03] <bekks> induz: Yes.
[23:03] <pfifo> wolfspy: ok thats a start, if you have a USB disk handy you can boot debain and use it to put together a liveusb
[23:03] <wolfspy> wilee-nilee, Using those instructions, you cannot check the md5 of a disk with windwos
[23:04] <bekks> induz: And technically, you already have one, since you have an iPhone.
[23:04] <pfifo> wolfspy: I think virtualbox allows access to a physical CDROM
[23:04] <induz> it is on UBuntu too or I have to get mackbook or
[23:04] <wolfspy> pfifo, I already have a ubuntu installation in virtualbox, can I just use that
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> wolfspy, Really, many have.
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> wolfspy: try looking further down the pagew to with checking the md5sum on windows section
[23:04] <FroggestSpirit> I need some help here
[23:04] <bekks> induz: Without an iTunes account, you cant initialize your iPhone.
[23:04] <wolfspy> wilee-nilee, really
[23:04] <wtfak1310> hey
[23:04] <wtfak1310> hey
[23:04] <pfifo> wolfspy: fire up your vbox and set the cdrom drive to the physical cdrom, then `md5sum /dev/cdrom` to check the disk(s)
[23:05] <induz> bekks within the iTunes on iPhone, how can i use it...the iPhone is not active. It used to be
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> wolfspy, use the vm though if you can, but the instructions are there and clear in using windows.
[23:05] <FroggestSpirit> does anyone else have an issue with suspend?
[23:05] <wolfspy> wtfak1310, hey
[23:05] <wtfak1310> hi wolf
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | FroggestSpirit
[23:05] <wtfak1310> hey guys, whats the differnce between Suspend, Standby, and Hibernate on Xubuntu?
[23:05] <wolfspy> wilee-nilee, im trying to check the md5 of the DISK, not the ISO file
[23:05] <bekks> induz: thats really not a subject for this channel. There is #itunes I guess.
[23:06] <induz> bekks ok
[23:06] <Bauer> guys, in Saucy, it stopped recognizing my Android phone - not mounting as USB drive anymore, while it works in Windows using the same USB cable. any ideas what could be the cause?
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> wolfspy, Ah, you loose the ISO?
[23:06] <FroggestSpirit> I'm running ubuntu 13.10 on my laptop (toshiba satellite) and the 64-bit version. When I close the lid, it suspends, then after opening it, the fan turns off.
[23:06] <reisio> wtfak1310: it depends on what your hardware thinks those are
[23:06] <reisio> wtfak1310: you basically have to use trial and error
[23:07] <FroggestSpirit> after about a minute, the fan turns on full blast, and it no longer suspends when closing the lid.
[23:07] <wolfspy> wilee-nilee, I want to make sure it was written correctly
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> wolfspy, Sorry to interject you have plenty of help. ;)
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> wolfspy: ahh in that case: http://www.fourmilab.ch/md5/
[23:07] <wtfak1310> i see, well its wierd in power manager, On AC it has option to Hibernate, On Battery it doesnt
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> FroggestSpirit: can you pastebin your dmesg and syslog from after the initial suspension
[23:09] <pfifo> wtfak1310: ubuntu has basically dropped all support for hibernation, xubuntu and lubuntu still show the options though.
[23:09] <wtfak1310> thanks
[23:09] <FroggestSpirit> hitsujiTMO: How do I do that? I'm on windows right now, so I'll have to reboot
[23:09] <bekks> pfifo: Thats nonsense.
[23:10] <bekks> pfifo: Ubuntu hasnt dropped support for that.
[23:10] <wolfspy> umm, how do I cd to the cdrom with terminal
[23:10] <wtfak1310> Does anyone have issues with remapping keys in 13.10? I'm using the settings Editor isntead of keyboars shortcuts, and it's not too straight forward
[23:11] <wolfspy> I can go to it in natalius, so it's mounted
[23:11] <pfifo> bekks: well its disabled by default (though still supported of course)
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> FroggestSpirit: install pastebinit and you can grab them easily then. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit && sudo pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[23:11] <bekks> pfifo: Thats far from "dropped support".
[23:11] <pfifo> basicly dropped support
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: its disabled by defualt ONLY if you have non certified hardware
[23:12] <bekks> pfifo: Not even partially. "disabled by default on non certified hardware" still means "fully supported".
[23:12] <FroggestSpirit> hitsujiTMO: I have to reboot into ubuntu now, but if it's just a file, i could navigate to it, and paste the contents
[23:12] <pfifo> bekks: ok whatever
[23:13] <wolfspy> umm, how do I cd to the cdrom with terminal
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> FroggestSpirit: you will need to do it after you suspend and come back. its 2 things a file /var/log/syslog and the output of the command dmesg
[23:13] <pfifo> wolfspy: it must be mounted first, but you dont need todo that to run an md5sum
[23:13] <wolfspy> pfifo, it says you need to be in the same directory as the md5sum.txt file on the cd rom
[23:14] <wolfspy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[23:14] <wtfak1310> anyones amixer not work right? amixer -q set Master toggle
[23:14] <wolfspy> pfifo, when I type cd /cdrom, it works, but after that when I type ls it dosen';t show any files
[23:14] <wtfak1310> doesnt toggle, lol
[23:14] <pfifo> wolfspy: do this instead 'md5sum /dev/cdrom'
[23:15] <wolfspy> pfifo, thanks, I assume it will take a while
[23:16] <pfifo> wolfspy: its not that big, but youll have to wait a min
[23:16] <minas> I am connected to a wired network and I want to use my laptop as a hotspot, so my mobile can connect to the internet. I went to netowrk settings and clicked the "use as hotspot..." option. The hotspot was created and my laptop was successfully connected to it, but my mobile can't find it. Am I doing something wrong?
[23:16] <duhamel> hello all, I am wondering how to change a folders icon and make it  stick, even from one ubuntu machine to another.
[23:17] <wolfspy> pfifo, it will probably take longer, bacause of virtualbox
[23:18] <wolfspy> lol, just finished
[23:18] <wolfspy> pfifo, do I just compare the md5sums manually?
[23:18] <duhamel> is there a script similar to windows autorun.inf i could run that would tell ubuntu to use an icon on a thumbdrive as the icon for that thumbdrive
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> wolfspy: just compare the first 8 digits, that should be enough
[23:18] <kyloth> hey guys would this be the right channel to ask questions about an external hdd i just got. its a 218 toshiba laptop drive and i got the sata converter, its mid format right now, but what i wanted to ask about was....
[23:18] <pfifo> wolfspy: wait, im looking at that document, and it brought up a good point, the md5sum produced from that wont match anyway
[23:19] <wolfspy> pfifo, oh
[23:19] <Richhh> sorry if off-topic, just installed lubuntu (hoorah!) and vim, cant switch modes in vim, its entering ^[ when i press c-[ or esc
[23:19] <kyloth> if anyone could help me partiion it to run a 90gig windows xp partition alongside 2 linux partitions one fedora one ubuntu
[23:19] <kyloth> ive ran dual boots before but never from an external hdd and never more than 2 os simultanious
[23:20] <pfifo> wolfspy: you need to 'sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom' to follow the instructions to check the files on the cd
[23:20] <wolfspy> pfifo, is it bad if they do match, bacause they do
[23:20] <duhamel> kyloth: install windows xp on the harddrive then install ubuntu on it.
[23:20] <pfifo> wolfspy: it say 'will almost never match'
[23:21] <wolfspy> pfifo, well, I guess this is a rare occasion
[23:21] <kyloth> if i install windows first will it auto make the partition for all 200ggis tho and will ubuntu's gparted have what i need to run xp and fedora alongside it
[23:21] <pfifo> wolfspy: so the md5sum of /dev/cdrom matches the md5 of the iso and matche the one listed in the downloads page?
[23:21] <wolfspy> pfifo, yep
[23:21] <pfifo> wolfspy: and you get the error posted in the imagebin?
[23:22] <wolfspy> pfifo, yes
[23:22] <duhamel> kyloth: yeah, when running the live linux shrink the windows os partition with gparted.
[23:22] <pfifo> wolfspy: can you boot the vm with that CD?
[23:22] <wolfspy> pfifo, ill try
[23:22] <wildwind> kyloth: xp installation allows you to select/create partitions. also you can partition the drive as needed beforehand
[23:23] <kyloth> if windows is installed before linux and then i install ubuntu and use gparted to shrink the windows side couldent i possibly damage my windows os?
[23:23] <vr2mx> hello
[23:23] <kyloth> thanks wildwind that was my biggest worry
[23:23] <keber> how to see channel list?
[23:23] <duhamel> kyloth: then when installing linux choose the"something different" option and partiytion the unallocated space with for your install.
[23:23] <wolfspy> pfifo, nope, because I dont have the right values for virtualizing amd64 in my bios
[23:23] <kyloth> next question, can i install these os's to this hdd without booting the system im using from the hdd
[23:23] <pfifo> !alis | keber
[23:24] <kyloth> thanks soo much for the help guys
[23:24] <kyloth> like i said ive ran dual boots before and ive imaged systems before just never more than 2 os's at a time and never on an external drive
[23:24] <Bauer> guys, in Saucy, it stopped recognizing my Android phone - not mounting as USB drive anymore, while it works in Windows using the same USB cable. any ideas what could be the cause?
[23:25] <pfifo> wolfspy: ok, does it always fail to read that same sector 0x69c00
[23:25] <duhamel> kyloth: are you implying you have an os on the machine and then the two os on the hdd? if so you can select from bootmenu or bios which will boot.
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> kyloth, What windows release?
[23:25] <wolfspy> pfifo, yes, and it happens with mint too
[23:25] <pfifo> wolfspy: are you using BIOS or UEFI?
[23:25] <wolfspy> pfifo, bios
[23:25] <Kuwait> wilee-nilee , will i try it , same nothing happen
[23:25] <wildwind> kyloth: plan all your partitions, make them with gparted, install win, install others
[23:25] <kyloth> im using ym friends computer which is running windows 7 to image my external hdd i dont want to risk damaging anything on her system while doing this to my drive
[23:25] <kyloth> thanks wildwind
[23:25] <pfifo> wolfspy: is this a usb, pata or sata drive?
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> Kuwait, You save the bootinfo summary?
[23:26] <kyloth> its a 218 toshiba laptop hdd inside of a 2.5in sata to usb converter casing
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> kyloth, Use the windows partitioner to resize it.
[23:26] <duhamel> kyloth: maybe use a live distro on usb to do all the partitioning so that you can easily see exactly whaT IS GOING ON WITH THE PARTITIONS.
[23:26] <wolfspy> pfifo, how do you check?
[23:26] <kyloth> the sata converter just came in the mail today so im also kinda excited to use this
[23:27] <duhamel> sorry. i tapped caplock
[23:27] <Cheekio> I love guides that include mystery variables
[23:27] <duhamel> hello all, I am wondering how to change a folders icon and make it  stick, even from one ubuntu machine to another.
[23:27] <duhamel> is there a script similar to windows autorun.inf i could run that would tell ubuntu to use an icon on a thumbdrive as the icon for that thumbdrive
[23:27] <zykotick9> wolfspy: cat /proc/cpuinfo | egrep '(vmx|svm)'
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> Cheekio, Link?
[23:27] <Cheekio> http://www.yourownlinux.com/2013/07/how-to-configure-ubuntu-as-router.html
[23:28] <wolfspy> zykotick9, im not in linux
[23:28] <kyloth> duhamel i was attempting to install these os's to my hdd without turning my hdd into a live boot disk unless neccessary. i have a live boot tyhumb drive but i have all three os's already downloaded to my friends system and unetbootin
[23:28] <zykotick9> wolfspy: i have no clue then...
[23:28] <Cheekio> @wilee-nilee: "This experiment was performed in the college campus and the gateway 10.10.6.2 was located between the Switch and Host A."
[23:28] <kyloth> and how do i highlight the names of the people im talking to so im not just sending black text
[23:28] <pfifo> wolfspy: well if its usb it would be external and plugged into a usb port, otherwise on bootup youll see it listed when your bios detectes it and it will sat pata or sata... also its impossible for it to be an sata drive if your computer dosent support sata so :)
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> Cheekio, That's in a reply.
[23:29] <kyloth> wolfspy... its a laptop hdd that was pulled from a broken motherboard. the hdd still works fine. i went online and spent 10 bucks on a sata to usb converter cable and casing for it. now im running it as a portable usb hdd
[23:29] <duhamel> kyloth: i understand, and that shopuldn't be a problem. i just find it much easier to deal with partitions and stuff from a live linux.
[23:29] <Cheekio> Yeah, but the lack of documentation on what 10.10.1.2 is vs 192.168.1.8 obfuscates the whole article
[23:30] <Cheekio> is 192.168.1.8 the external address of the host?
[23:30] <wolfspy> pfifo, its sata
[23:30] <Cheekio> It's obviously not an address registered with any DNS I know of
[23:30] <wolfspy> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Western-Digital-WD3200BPVT-24ZEST0-DCM-HHMTJAB-320gb-Sata-Hard-Drive-/360585775518?pt=US_Internal_Hard_Disk_Drives&hash=item53f496499e
[23:30] <duhamel> install to the hdd as any normal install with the windows install first then the Linux install
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> Cheekio, What your trying to do in general is not gui click and it just works task, you have to have some knowledge and or the ability to find the answers.
[23:31] <duhamel> hello all, I am wondering how to change a folders icon and make it  stick, even from one ubuntu machine to another.
[23:31] <kyloth> i agree duhamel thats why i was confused when i was told to put windows on it first i figured gparted would be what i needed i jsut wanted to make sure i wasnt going have have any unforseen kinks because ive never done more than 2 os's on one hdd before and this one i wanted to try three os's that i can boot from as i wish regardless of who's system i am plugged into
[23:31] <duhamel> is there a script similar to windows autorun.inf i could run that would tell ubuntu to use an icon on a thumbdrive as the icon for that thumbdrive
[23:31] <Cheekio> wilee-nilee, I'm not saying the task should be easier, I'm saying isn't it great when articles don't include necessary information
[23:32] <duhamel> Kyloth. the xternal hdd will only work on the mavchine they were install with. they will not work from
[23:32] <duhamel> machine to machine
[23:32] <Lockzi> Hello - Is it possible to mount an NFS share and have it "fake" uid and gid that's stored on the server since that the client and user does not have the same information?
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> Cheekio, Heh, a random article, and your complaining, its the web man. ;)
[23:32] <kyloth> my uncle boots his os on other peoples machines all the time, he doesnt even own a computer he just has a hard drive that he boots from
[23:32] <pfifo> wolfspy: I think you should try booting with 'waitusb=10' in you kernel arguments
[23:32] <duhamel> kyloth: only live distros work from machine  to machine.
[23:33] <kyloth> ill remember that duhamel
[23:33] <wolfspy> pfifo, How do you do that
[23:33] <duhamel> kyloth: not windows. once it is installed it only works on that hardware
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> Cheekio, YOur trying to make your computer into a router right?
[23:33] <kyloth> anyway thanks for the info guy i think i got what i need ( uncle runs linux only he is a fedora guy)
[23:33] <duhamel> you can't even change a motherboard on a windows install
[23:34] <pfifo> wolfspy: its been years since ive had to boot from a cd, im not sure with the newer releases, let me ask google
[23:34] <duhamel> hello all, I am wondering how to change a folders icon and make it  stick, even from one ubuntu machine to another.
[23:34] <duhamel> is there a script similar to windows autorun.inf i could run that would tell ubuntu to use an icon on a thumbdrive as the icon for that thumbdrive
[23:35] <wildwind> Cheekio: the addresses are explained in the summary part. but yes, they are somewhat misleading. 192.168.1.0/24 addresses are used for local networks
[23:35] <wolfspy> duhamel, I think autorun.inf works on ubuntu
[23:36] <bekks> wolfspy: It doesnt. Thats a windows invention.
[23:36] <pfifo> wolfspy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD_Boot_Option_Configuration_Line
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> Cheekio, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[23:37] <duhamel> wolfspy: i didn't try but that seems unlikely to me.
[23:37] <Cheekio> I'm trying to plug a device into my ethernet port that I have no other tools to connect to
[23:37] <Cheekio> if I'm the gateway, I can just ssh into it
[23:37] <Cheekio> but right now it won't automatically connect to a wifi network, it has no head/keyboard/mouse
[23:38] <Cheekio> I just need my laptop to play gateway and it to assign the device an ip address it can ssh into.
[23:38] <wolfspy_> pfifo: can you say the boot option again? I'm on my phone now
[23:39] <SlutaTramsa> I've got a problem. I'm on ubuntu 13.10 and when I try to login the DE (XFCE) crashes and i'm instantly brought back to the login screen, any idea on what to do/what logs i should look in?
[23:39] <wildwind> Cheekio: oh, it's a slightly different task :) you need a dhcp server.
[23:39] <duhamel> is there a way to  get a script on a thumb drive to run automatically from a thumbdrive from machine to machine
[23:40] <duhamel> is there a way to  get a script on a thumb drive to run automatically from machine to machine
[23:40] <Danato> whats xfce display manager?
[23:40] <domdom> Hello World!
[23:40] <wolfspy_> F6 dosent do anything...
[23:40] <wildwind> Cheekio: dnsmasq is an example of
[23:40] <zykotick9> SlutaTramsa: log in via console (ctrl+alt+f1) and "ls -l" in your home dirctory.  are any of the files owned by root?  if they are, that might be the issue!
[23:40] <domdom> xfce display manager?
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, What are you trying to run on the thumb?
[23:40] <Cheekio> @wildwind, apt-get hooked me up with dnsmasq
[23:41] <zykotick9> SlutaTramsa: sorry use "ls -al"
[23:41] <duhamel> i just want to assign an icon to a folder or script and have it stick even from machine to machine.
[23:41] <SlutaTramsa> zykotick9: .gvfs, .Xauthority & .wine is
[23:41] <duhamel> wilee-nilee: i just want to assign an icon to a folder or script and have it stick even from machine to machine.
[23:42] <domdom> dnsmasq: Small caching DNS proxy and DHCP/TFTP server
[23:42] <domdom>  Dnsmasq is a lightweight, easy to configure, DNS forwarder and DHCP
[23:42] <domdom>  server. It is designed to provide DNS and optionally, DHCP, to a
[23:42] <domdom>  small network. It can serve the names of local machines which are
[23:42] <domdom>  not in the global DNS. The DHCP server integrates with the DNS
[23:42] <domdom>  server and allows machines with DHCP-allocated addresses
[23:42] <FloodBot1> domdom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:42] <domdom>  to appear in the DNS with names configured either in each host or
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, what is the script?
[23:42] <zykotick9> SlutaTramsa: STOP using "sudo" with GUI applications!!! see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for details!  change those to the right owner, especially .Xauthority!
[23:42] <Cheekio> woah, Floodbot does not play around.
[23:42] <SlutaTramsa> zykotick9: alright, thanks
[23:43] <Danato> domdom: ddnt really mean xfce display manager, but i meant how its directory, like kdm is for kde
[23:43] <duhamel> wilee-nilee: i was hoping to use a script similar to windows autorun.inf to make the icons stick.
[23:43] <Cheekio> domdom, are you a real person?
[23:43] <wildwind> Cheekio: you don't need all that routing stuff from the guide just to connect to one device
[23:43] <Cheekio> great!
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, I have to admit here that I wonder if your script is up to no good. ;)
[23:44] <jimgroth> Hey guys. I'm logged in to a ubuntu server box. Put the session to sleep and woke it up today. Now it won't accept my password. Any ideas what to do?
[23:44] <pfifo> wolfspy_: usbwait=10
[23:44] <Cheekio> I suppose I should be looking into dnsmasq to see if it does what I want
[23:44] <pfifo> jimgroth: reboot
[23:45] <jimgroth> won't that remove any chance I have of correcting anything while logged in?
[23:45] <wtfak1310> Where can I get pwmconfig?
[23:45] <wtfak1310> i cant aptget it, lol
[23:45] <wtfak1310> its not part of 13.1- for some reason
[23:45] <pfifo> jimgroth: can you ssh in?
[23:45] <Cheekio> alright, doing to flush my iptables via reboot, who knows what gunk I've put in there today
[23:45] <MonkeyDu1t> !find pwm
[23:46] <Cheekio> brb
[23:46] <wolfspy_> pfifo: f6 doorbell
[23:46] <wolfspy_> pfifo: f6 doesn't do anything *
[23:46] <pfifo> wolfspy_: i noticed those instructions are for 10.04
[23:46] <jimgroth> pfifo: Yes! Weird! :S
[23:46] <wildwind> Cheekio: it can respond to dhcp requests and give ip addresses. and serve as dns proxy server. not sure if this is what you want
[23:47] <duhamel> wilee-nilee: nothing like that at all. i have set up a folder for  a newb friend of mine that installs ps3 controller drivers and a nes emulator. i don't necessarily need a autorun script, i just want the assign the icons so hius kids will be able  to run the right scripts easily.
[23:47] <pfifo> wolfspy_: non the less, take a look at what options you are presented with
[23:47] <FroggestSpirit> i'm back
[23:47] <pfifo> jimgroth: reboot from ssh
[23:47] <jimgroth> ok
[23:47] <duhamel> all i want is to make the icons stick from machine to machine.
[23:47] <wolfspy_> pfifo: e for commands before booting and c for console
[23:48] <pfifo> wolfspy_: ohh thats grub! press e
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, Not sure to be honest, to link an icon to what I assume is a bash if this is linux, sorry.
[23:49] <FroggestSpirit> Who was helping me with the suspend issue? I paste bin'ed the log
[23:49] <zykotick9> FroggestSpirit: you need to give the helper/channel the link to your paste!
[23:49] <jimgroth> pfifo, thanks. Glad it was that easy. :)
[23:49] <duhamel> wilee-nilee: even if i could just change the folder icon and have it stick that would be cool.
[23:50] <FroggestSpirit> zykotick9: helper/channel?
[23:50] <jimgroth> wouldn't have thought to log in via ssh since local didn't work
[23:50] <zykotick9> FroggestSpirit: the person who was helping your / or this channel.
[23:51] <wildwind> duhamel: check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/183097/where-is-nautilus-icon-file-located-and-how-is-it-chosen
[23:51] <FroggestSpirit> i dont remember the name
[23:51] <Cheekio> @wildwind, as long as it can tell this raspberrypi connected to my ethernet port that it has an ip address, and then allow me to send ssh commands over that cable, I'll be good.
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, Right click folder properties then click the folder icon to change it, but having it run not sure, unless just clicking it runs it.
[23:51] <zykotick9> FroggestSpirit: so just post the link then, and hope for the best.
[23:51] <FroggestSpirit> http://hastebin.com/xedajakoci.coffee
[23:51] <zykotick9> is hastebin.com an actual site?
[23:52] <FroggestSpirit> yes
[23:52] <wildwind> Cheekio: doesn't it have a default ip address?
[23:53] <duhamel> wilee-nilee: yeah that only works until nautilus resets. after reboot the icon is a blank sheet. i have put the icon in the root of folder as a hidden file.
[23:53] <Cheekio> No, it's not connected to a network
[23:53] <Danato> what would be the equivalent of /etc/kde4/kdm on xubuntu?
[23:53] <Kuwait> after install ubuntu with pre installed windows 8 , no bootloader , info: windows 8.1 , ubuntu 13.10 both 64 bit
[23:53] <Cheekio> It's basically alone in the world waiting to be told what to do
[23:53] <Cheekio> the only computer it can talk to is my laptop.
[23:53] <SlutaTramsa> zykotick9: That kinda worked, but only with gnome flashback. When I try to login with xfce it all get white. Any idea on that?
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, Yeah does not stay the same across computers with the icons as well, not really an area I at all familiar with.
[23:53] <PDilyard> is/was anyone else getting slow menu bar performance in ubuntu 13.10 with unity? (im talking about File, Edit, etc)
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> I'm*
[23:54] <Cheekio> It's probably been waiting this whole time for my laptop to assign it an ip address
[23:54] <zykotick9> SlutaTramsa: sorry, no clue.  best of luck.
[23:54] <Kuwait> wilee-nilee yes nothing happen :(
[23:54] <Cheekio> but my laptop is also looking to get an IP address for its ethernet port.
[23:54] <SlutaTramsa> zykotick9: Alright, thanks
[23:54] <SlutaTramsa> Anyone else here with a clue?
[23:54] <wildwind> Cheekio: what firmware is on pi?
[23:54] <Cheekio> I mean, if you plug two computers together via ethernet, they don't just start talking, do they?
[23:54] <Cheekio> wildwind: raspbian
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> Kuwait, That bootinfo summary is the key for many to actually diagnose the problem.
[23:54] <FroggestSpirit> zykotick9: any idea why suspend isnt working after?
[23:55] <duhamel> wilee-nilee: that's okay. you have helped me out many times. thanks anyway.
[23:55] <wolfspy_> pfifo: do I add another boot value in another line m
[23:55] <zykotick9> FroggestSpirit: suspend or hybernate?  either way, no i don't... best of luck.
[23:55] <Cheekio> I don't know if that's the firmware. I got the most recent NOOBS and installed raspbian via its bootstrapper
[23:55] <FroggestSpirit> suspend
[23:55] <zykotick9> FroggestSpirit: suspend has a MUCH high chance of working BTW
[23:56] <Danato> can anybody tell what would be the equivalent of /etc/kde4/kdm on xubuntu?
[23:56] <pfifo> wolfspy_: no, the line that starts with 'kernel' ends with -- (its likely split over several lines) just tack on a usbwait=10 after the --
[23:56] <wildwind> Cheekio: on low ethernet level they do. but on ip level and higher not
[23:56] <pfifo> wolfspy_: then ctrl+x to boot
[23:57] <FroggestSpirit> well, suspend works the first time when i boot ubuntu and close the lid. then after logging back in after opening the lid, my fan goes silent, and then goes full blast after a minute, and closing the lid doesnt suspend anymore until i reboot
[23:57] <zykotick9> wildwind: does ubuntu even run on the pi?
[23:57] <wildwind> Ubuntu not AFAIK
[23:57] <zykotick9> wildwind: so, why are you supporting it in #ubuntu then?
[23:58] <wolfspy_> pfifo: same error
[23:58] <Cheekio> He's not supporting the pi
[23:58] <wildwind> i'm not, just curious
[23:58] <Cheekio> I'm trying to get my ubuntu laptop to do something, well within the bounds of what ubuntu can do.
[23:59] <Cheekio> zykotick9, read the logs if you want to know what's being discussed.