Kaapaok, the problem seems to be related to compiz00:10
Kaapaif compiz starts with session start, something with xfce goes wrong00:10
Kaapaif I start with xfwm4 and then replace, works00:11
brainwashKaapa: glad you found the culprit00:18
Kaapastill takes lot of time to log out00:20
Kaapais there a log file around that I can look into?00:20
Kaapa.xsession-errors doesn't report a lot00:20
brainwashusually it does00:20
brainwashor is it 13.10?00:20
Kaapait is00:24
Kaapaonly has this00:25
GridCubecompiz is not recommended00:27
Kaapayeah, I guess00:27
Kaapabut personally it's a performance booster :S00:28
brainwashKaapa: check ~/.cache/upstart/startxfce4.log00:31
brainwashcompiz isn't the cause of the delayed logout, right?00:32
Kaapathat's the command to pastebin from console?00:34
brainwashcheck like "you should check this logfile instead"00:35
Kaapano, I undestood :)00:35
Kaapajust doesn  seem very healthy00:36
brainwashright, high amount of warnings and so on00:37
Kaapawell, this is kind'a back to normal00:38
Kaapawell, thanks for the help00:39
frankbroI have compiled and installed (in /usr/local) a new panel plugin, how can I put it on my panels? It's not appearing in the list.04:04
holsteinfrankbro: i would ask the maintainers of the plugin04:31
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blinking_I've installed xubuntu to SD card from USB thumbdrive (livecd)  on a CR48 (Chromebook) and installing to SD card. After reboot it's just a blining underscore08:30
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter08:43
blinking_Thanks, but its not a black screen08:47
blinking_it's a blinking underscore08:47
bazhangbusybox prompt?08:49
blinking_I can't type during it, lol08:53
blinking_it's like DOS blinking08:54
blinking_sup wizard08:55
WestDoes anyone know which version of xfce Xubuntu 13.10 is using ?09:48
Westtsimpson: thank you, I wasn't sure.09:52
TheSheep!info xfwm409:52
ubottuxfwm4 (source: xfwm4): window manager of the Xfce project. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.10.1-2ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 541 kB, installed size 2512 kB09:52
WestI don't mean to sound controversal, but doesn't Xubuntu run any ads like the main version ? I know there is a way to disable them, but that's not the point.09:53
West**does Xubuntu09:53
Westtsimpson: good, thanks again. .09:55
GrandCouillonHello guys ! By mistake, I pressed the "Don't show again" button in a notification window. How can I reenable the message again ? (Xubuntu 13.10)09:58
nikolamweather xfce applet in xubuntu 12.04 LTS 32bit does not work again , for over 5 weeks now10:37
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=== xubuntu is now known as Guest28703
irgendwer4711hi, I tried to add some program to start menu using "main menu configurator" but this has no effect. new program does not appear.11:13
irgendwer4711know problem?11:15
Mitizarohey there!!11:51
Mitizaroanybody here?11:51
cfhowlettMitizaro, greetings11:51
Mitizarothank u11:52
Mitizaroi have a GRUB question11:52
Mitizarocan u give me a hand a bit? :)11:52
cfhowlettMitizaro, I'll try11:52
Mitizarothank u!!11:52
cfhowlettgrub is not my strongest ...11:52
Mitizaroso i have VectorLinux 7,  but just installed  XUBUNTU 13.1011:52
bekks7 lines and still no question... :P11:52
cfhowlettbekks, better than the jackhole who entered the other with a hearty "Hello B*****s!"11:53
cfhowlettother DAY11:53
Mitizarostill i used to have linux Mint 9  ISADORA, but the GRUB somehow finds it corrupted (didnt install VL properly to save the Mint9)   -- thats not a problem. But after installing XUBUNTU -- i neither see it in the GRUB menu during "the choice for boot", neither does hitting the MINT 9 slot loads it (cuz its in the (former) MINT 9 partition)11:54
Mitizaromy question is - how do i add XUBUNTU 13.10 in the GRUB menu from Vector Linux? (given that it is located in the former MINT 9 Partition,  and that the GRUB choice for Mint 9 was corrupted)11:55
cfhowlettMitizaro, WAY more grub issues than I can deal with. Ask here or in #ubuntu.11:55
Mitizarookay to simplyfy it - how can i add XUBUNTU 13.10 to the grub menu11:56
elfyboot vector and update grub from there I'd assume as a first option11:57
elfyalso https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_211:57
cfhowlettelfy, wouldn't the most recently installed grub take priority?11:57
elfycfhowlett: possibly - hence the grub install page :)11:58
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elfyyou 'should I assume' be able to reinstall the grub for vector somehow, then you'll be able to update it and it should find xubuntu11:59
Mitizarothats what i'm trying to do11:59
elfyMitizaro: read the wiki - all the issues I've ever had I've dealt with using the options on there12:01
elfybut it's really a vector linux support issue12:02
Mitizarothe irc channel is not very... crowded12:02
Mitizarosudo grub-install /dev/sdX   - gives me   /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `/dev/sdX'.12:02
elfyit will ...12:03
elfychange the X to suit what it actually is ;)12:03
Mitizaroi mean12:04
Mitizarowhen i hit it12:04
Mitizarou received12:04
Mitizaro/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `/dev/sdX'.12:04
bekksDid you replace sdX with the correct device?12:04
Mitizarooh... i see12:04
Mitizaroit worked12:06
Mitizarobut i can't run the  "sudo update-grub" cuz its says there's no such command12:06
bekksYou are in Ubuntu currently, are you?12:06
Mitizaroin Vector12:09
MitizaroVectorLinux 7.012:09
Mitizaroi'm wondering how i can opne the "grub.cfg" file under root (some terminal command?)12:11
elfysomething like this might help, but I've not had to do that for a long time    grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg12:13
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elfysomeone else might have used that more recently12:13
Mitizarothen how do u guys edit GRUB???12:14
Mitizaroisnt it with the leafpad and then manually typing?12:14
Mitizarocuz ive got no GRUB app in the menu12:14
bekksThere is no such app...12:14
Mitizaroso it has to be manual12:14
bekks!grub2 | Mitizaro12:14
ubottuMitizaro: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub212:14
GuerillaI am installing xubuntu on my dads old laptop and wondering whether to install the latest release or the LTS 12.04.12:14
Mitizarobut i get permission denied when opening it with right click> open with leafpad12:15
Mitizarooh i see12:15
Mitizarothe  grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg  just auto-attuned grub12:16
Mitizarothank u, now i'm gonna restart and see what happens12:16
cfhowlettGuerilla, the newest version has a  month life cycle.  LTS has 5 years on the desktop and a new verion coming April.  Your choice12:17
elfycfhowlett: they've gone :)12:18
cfhowlettHope they chose wisely12:19
elfygood job they don't think that 13.10 only has a month life cycle though :D12:19
Mitizarodidnt work12:19
Mitizaroi get some error file not found and12:20
Mitizaro(when i click the xub choice)12:20
cfhowlettMitizaro, no error messages = no way to analyze your issue12:20
Mitizaroand then black screen -- keyboard's caps lock and the second green lamp - pinging on/off12:20
Mitizaroi guess i didn't install it properly - gotta secure the valuable files here, and i'm gonna install XUB in "auto install" and erase everything with it (i have VL's disc too)12:21
bekksMitizaro: Thats a kernel panic then.12:21
bekksYour kernel died, missing in action, so to say.12:22
Mitizaroaha... so what can i do?12:22
Mitizaroi mean12:22
Mitizaroit will probably be okay if12:22
Mitizaroi just reinstall XUB on ALL of the hard?12:23
Mitizaroerasing all other OS12:23
bekksPlease dont press enter that often, it makes things hard to read.12:23
cfhowlettMitizaro, that should clear everything up, yes12:23
Mitizaroi see12:23
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!12:23
MitizaroTHANKS TO ALL OF U -- i wish u a nice day! :)12:24
xubuntu936Hello, anyone here?12:27
xubuntu936amixer set Master toggle12:31
xubuntu936doesnt toggle12:31
gandhiI've problems with ubiquity when installing xubuntu 13.10, is always crashing. Can somebody help me?14:55
Mitizarohey there -- i can't configure my NVIDIA drivers.. after running:  "nvidia-xconfig" i get the message:  "15:02
MitizaroWARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file. ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'. "15:02
Mitizaroboth happens on the 310. ver  and the 173. ver (before AND after reboot)15:03
gdoshow do i setup a local mailserver or mailspool file to read system messages (or to email other users on the same system without accessing the network or internet)?17:53
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer is where i would start gdos .. maybe moving to a server channel or mailing list for specifics.. you can try #ubuntu since this is not specific to xubuntu or XFCE17:55
Donnie_Darko21hello can someone tell where where i can adjust the brightness for my lap top got 13.1017:55
holsteinDonnie_Darko21: i use the keyboard shortcuts, and they "just work" on most of my intel hardware machines.. this functionality may depend on the graphics driver or driver support from the manufacturer17:56
TheSheepDonnie_Darko21: hello again, you should have keys for that in the top row of your laptop's keyboard17:56
Donnie_Darko21oh when i press FN plus for high lights17:56
Donnie_Darko21it wont let me to make it high17:56
holsteinDonnie_Darko21: is it adjusting it at all?17:57
Donnie_Darko21but 1 sec17:57
Donnie_Darko21and back again to low lights17:57
holsteinif so, then the issue is not "i need to adjust brightness".. occasionally, i have added a kernel line to get the screen brighter.. or used a different or more suitabe driver17:57
TheSheepDonnie_Darko21: can you open a terminal, run 'xrandr' in it and pastebin the result at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ?17:58
holsteinDonnie_Darko21: so, you brighten the screen, and when idle, the screen dims? if so, that is a setting in power management17:58
Donnie_Darko21hmm in ubuntu was called brighness and was at seeting or tweak17:58
holsteinDonnie_Darko21: xubuntu *is* ubuntu17:58
Donnie_Darko21yes but cant find it17:58
Donnie_Darko21in settings or tweak17:58
holsteinDonnie_Darko21: the setting im referring to is in the powermanagement.. for dimming the screen whed idle17:58
Donnie_Darko21i see but its not power managment from power on the lap top the default lights is low17:59
holsteinDonnie_Darko21: and the paste output of xrandr?18:00
Donnie_Darko21one sec18:00
Donnie_Darko21which software can i install compatible with xfce for adjusting brightness18:04
Donnie_Darko21mine eyes burning me18:06
Donnie_Darko21come on :D18:06
Donnie_Darko21omg cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness is 718:15
TheSheepDonnie_Darko21: ok, try this: xrandr --output LVDS1 --brightness 118:21
Donnie_Darko21nothing happen18:22
Donnie_Darko21ok now18:22
Donnie_Darko21installed xbacklight18:22
Donnie_Darko21it work18:22
Donnie_Darko21set to 10018:23
Donnie_Darko21cant find some gui software18:24
Donnie_Darko21where can i find ubuntu software i need the bin18:44
Donnie_Darko21the path for ubuntu software center18:48
ozberkusr/share/bin I guess18:48
elfywithout the extra one ;)18:50
Donnie_Darko21yeah thanks18:54
Donnie_Darko21but dont install the adobe flash18:54
ballIn what ways would Xubuntu differ from Debian with xfce?18:54
Donnie_Darko21i really hate adobe flash18:54
ballI'm surprised how much stuff works today even if you don't have Adobe Flash installed.18:55
ballPleasantly surprised, mind.18:55
Donnie_Darko21yeah but really its very bad always its wrong with adobe and why they dont to it .deb file18:56
Donnie_Darko21if i m not wrong which was it for converting into deb file ... rpm to deb ?18:57
Donnie_Darko21found it with alien18:58
Donnie_Darko21and yeah18:58
Donnie_Darko21for java too18:59
Donnie_Darko21always conflicting18:59
Donnie_Darko21i will try with alien now18:59
TheSheepusually using rpms is a pretty bad idea18:59
TheSheepthey are not prepared for your system18:59
Donnie_Darko21hmm did alien can convert it ?19:06
Donnie_Darko21will be deb then :)19:06
Mitizarohelllllllo there... someone here?19:28
ballNo, we were all eaten by small dogs.19:28
Mitizaromy nvidia drivers cant install them in XUB 13.1019:30
Mitizaroi did it, but i've got to run "nvidia-xconfig"19:31
Mitizaroi do so, and i get this:19:32
MitizaroWARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.19:32
MitizaroERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'."19:32
Mitizaroaaaaand so i cant use my drivers..19:32
Mitizarosmall dogs invasion!?!?!?19:33
* ball nods19:34
ballThose happen.19:34
Mitizaroso any ideas how i can fix that? i run it as root, it happens with the 170 and 310 drivers too...19:34
Mitizarooh shiet..19:35
Mitizaroi remembered -- i have to deinstall a lot of stuff i think19:35
xubuntu642xubuntu broadcom bcm4311 wireless problem. help mi20:00
xubuntu642lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH720:01
xubuntu642iwconfig lo        no wireless extensions.  eth0      no wireless extensions.20:01
holstein!broadcom | xubuntu64220:02
ubottuxubuntu642: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx20:02
xubuntu642thank you20:02
holsteinxubuntu642: the easy way, in my opinion.. wire up to network access, search the repos for "broadcom".. install the package the wiki states supports your device20:03
xubuntu642I have to do what you show <holstein>20:04
xubuntu642lspci -vvnn | grep 14e420:05
xubuntu64210:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01)20:05
holsteinxubuntu642: yes.. that ist he information i would reference on the wiki.. for that specific device.. and install what is suggested20:07
xubuntu642I want to run wifi20:09
xubuntu642what should I do20:09
holsteinxubuntu642: correct.. the link i gave give the information to add the packages that will support your broadcom device20:10
holsteinyou should read the link i gave, find the information about what package supports your device, install the package and test the wifi20:10
holsteinxubuntu642: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source ..for example20:11
ballI'm really impressed by how well WiFi worked on my daughter's Xubuntu box.20:12
holsteinball: its really up to the driver. if the device supports linux, it'll work well20:12
ballholstein: That part worked for me and the user interface was simple enough too: click the WiFi signal bar thinggie, choose our wireless LAN from the list presented and enter the passphrase.20:13
holsteinsure, most modern operating system support joining wifi networks, and do it well20:13
ballholstein: Perhaps I'm not used to modern operating systems ;-)20:14
xubuntu642sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source Paket listeleri okunuyor... Bitti Bağımlılık ağacı oluşturuluyor        Durum bilgisi okunuyor... Bitti       Aşağıdaki paketler yükseltilecek:   bcmwl-kernel-source 1 paket yükseltilecek, 0 yeni paket kurulacak, 0 paket kaldırılacak ve 0 paket yükseltilmeyecek. 1.743 kB arşiv dosyası indirilecek. Bu işlem tamamlandıktan sonra 1.823 kB ek disk alanı kullanılacak. Alı20:14
holsteinball: or, you have had unsupported hardware, and somehow thought that was the responsibility of the OS20:14
holstein!paste | xubuntu64220:14
ubottuxubuntu642: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:14
ballholstein: No, that's not it.20:15
holsteinxubuntu642: whats the question?20:15
ballThe question may have been asked but I don't think it was in English20:15
holsteinball: OK.. the click-n-join-a-wifi "thingie" has been working for me quite well for a while.. though, i have had issues with wifi relating to driver support20:15
* ball nods20:16
Guest254xubuntu642: please prepend LC_ALL=en-us to the apt-get command, so that the output is in english20:16
Guest254xubuntu642: LC_ALL=en-us sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source20:16
xubuntu642restricted i386 + BDCOM bcmwl - kernel-source - 0ubuntu1 [ 1743 kB] 5 sec. Were also 1,743 kB (319 kB / s) ( Reading database ... 174687 files or folders available is installed. ) + BDCOM prepared to change bcmwl - kernel-source - 0ubuntu3 ( using .../bcmwl-kernel-source_6.30.223.141 + BDCOM - 0ubuntu1_i386.deb ) ... Removing all DKMS Modules Done . Unpacking replacement bcmwl - kernel-source ... bcmwl 20:17
xubuntu642Loading new bcmwl - + BDCOM DKMS files ... Building only for 3.11.0 -13 -generic Building for architecture i686 Building initial module for 3.11.0 -13 -generic Done .20:17
holsteinxubuntu642: please use a pastbin..20:17
xubuntu642wl : Running module version sanity check .  - Original module    - No original module exists within this kernel  - Installation    - Installing to / lib/modules/3.11.0-13-generic/updates/dkms /20:17
holsteinxubuntu642: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20:17
* ball hides20:18
holsteinxubuntu642: that looks to me as if the package is installing the drivers needed. whats the question?20:18
xubuntu642does not work20:18
holsteinxubuntu642: what doesnt do what?20:19
holsteinxubuntu642: you installed the package? and rebooted the machine? and tested the wifi? what operating system do you have installed? xubuntu 13.10?20:19
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Noskcajhey Keyboard_131023:20
Keyboard_1310hey Nos23:20
Keyboard_1310I'm tryign to remap some keys having some issues with 13.1023:21
Keyboard_1310amixer set 'Master' toggle                    doesnt work23:21
brauleinchenhow do I play ape files (audio format) under xubuntu 13.10? gmusicbrowserd doesnt play int23:22
Keyboard_1310try audacious+ codecs?23:23
Keyboard_1310latest audacious should  play it23:24
brauleinchenthx Keyboard_1310 , any idea on how to get gmusicbroser to play it?23:26
brauleinchenor, can I also configure audacious for my music library?23:26
Sysi-try installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and -ugly23:28
Sysi-and gstreamer-ffmpeg23:29
Keyboard_1310what happened to pwmconfig in 13.1023:43

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