[00:10] ok, the problem seems to be related to compiz [00:10] if compiz starts with session start, something with xfce goes wrong [00:11] if I start with xfwm4 and then replace, works [00:18] Kaapa: glad you found the culprit [00:20] still takes lot of time to log out [00:20] is there a log file around that I can look into? [00:20] .xsession-errors doesn't report a lot [00:20] usually it does [00:20] or is it 13.10? [00:24] it is [00:25] http://kaapa.pastebin.mozilla.org/3612299 [00:25] only has this [00:27] compiz is not recommended [00:27] yeah, I guess [00:28] but personally it's a performance booster :S [00:31] Kaapa: check ~/.cache/upstart/startxfce4.log [00:32] compiz isn't the cause of the delayed logout, right? [00:34] that's the command to pastebin from console? [00:35] check like "you should check this logfile instead" [00:35] no, I undestood :) [00:36] just doesn seem very healthy [00:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6423934/ [00:37] right, high amount of warnings and so on [00:38] well, this is kind'a back to normal [00:38] weird... [00:39] well, thanks for the help [00:39] :) [04:04] I have compiled and installed (in /usr/local) a new panel plugin, how can I put it on my panels? It's not appearing in the list. [04:31] frankbro: i would ask the maintainers of the plugin === xubuntu254 is now known as blinking_ [08:29] Hello [08:29] I' [08:29] I [08:30] I've installed xubuntu to SD card from USB thumbdrive (livecd) on a CR48 (Chromebook) and installing to SD card. After reboot it's just a blining underscore [08:43] !nomodeset [08:43] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [08:47] Thanks, but its not a black screen [08:47] it's a blinking underscore [08:49] busybox prompt? [08:53] ? [08:53] I can't type during it, lol [08:54] it's like DOS blinking [08:55] sup wizard [09:48] Does anyone know which version of xfce Xubuntu 13.10 is using ? [09:51] 4.10.1 [09:52] tsimpson: thank you, I wasn't sure. [09:52] !info xfwm4 [09:52] xfwm4 (source: xfwm4): window manager of the Xfce project. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.10.1-2ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 541 kB, installed size 2512 kB [09:53] I don't mean to sound controversal, but doesn't Xubuntu run any ads like the main version ? I know there is a way to disable them, but that's not the point. [09:53] **does Xubuntu [09:54] no [09:55] tsimpson: good, thanks again. . [09:58] Hello guys ! By mistake, I pressed the "Don't show again" button in a notification window. How can I reenable the message again ? (Xubuntu 13.10) [10:37] weather xfce applet in xubuntu 12.04 LTS 32bit does not work again , for over 5 weeks now === Sysi- is now known as Sysi === xubuntu is now known as Guest28703 [11:13] hi, I tried to add some program to start menu using "main menu configurator" but this has no effect. new program does not appear. [11:15] know problem? [11:51] hey there!! [11:51] anybody here? [11:51] Mitizaro, greetings [11:52] thank u [11:52] i have a GRUB question [11:52] can u give me a hand a bit? :) [11:52] Mitizaro, I'll try [11:52] thank u!! [11:52] grub is not my strongest ... [11:52] so i have VectorLinux 7, but just installed XUBUNTU 13.10 [11:52] 7 lines and still no question... :P [11:53] bekks, better than the jackhole who entered the other with a hearty "Hello B*****s!" [11:53] other DAY [11:53] Indeed [11:54] still i used to have linux Mint 9 ISADORA, but the GRUB somehow finds it corrupted (didnt install VL properly to save the Mint9) -- thats not a problem. But after installing XUBUNTU -- i neither see it in the GRUB menu during "the choice for boot", neither does hitting the MINT 9 slot loads it (cuz its in the (former) MINT 9 partition) [11:55] my question is - how do i add XUBUNTU 13.10 in the GRUB menu from Vector Linux? (given that it is located in the former MINT 9 Partition, and that the GRUB choice for Mint 9 was corrupted) [11:55] Mitizaro, WAY more grub issues than I can deal with. Ask here or in #ubuntu. [11:56] okay to simplyfy it - how can i add XUBUNTU 13.10 to the grub menu [11:57] boot vector and update grub from there I'd assume as a first option [11:57] also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2 [11:57] elfy, wouldn't the most recently installed grub take priority? [11:58] cfhowlett: possibly - hence the grub install page :) === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [11:59] you 'should I assume' be able to reinstall the grub for vector somehow, then you'll be able to update it and it should find xubuntu [11:59] yes [11:59] thats what i'm trying to do [12:01] Mitizaro: read the wiki - all the issues I've ever had I've dealt with using the options on there [12:02] but it's really a vector linux support issue [12:02] well [12:02] the irc channel is not very... crowded [12:02] sudo grub-install /dev/sdX - gives me /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `/dev/sdX'. [12:03] it will ... [12:03] change the X to suit what it actually is ;) [12:04] i mean [12:04] when i hit it [12:04] u received [12:04] /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `/dev/sdX'. [12:04] Did you replace sdX with the correct device? [12:04] oh... i see [12:06] okay [12:06] it worked [12:06] but i can't run the "sudo update-grub" cuz its says there's no such command [12:06] You are in Ubuntu currently, are you? [12:09] in Vector [12:09] VectorLinux 7.0 [12:09] slackware [12:11] i'm wondering how i can opne the "grub.cfg" file under root (some terminal command?) [12:13] something like this might help, but I've not had to do that for a long time grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg === Glenn_ is now known as Guerilla [12:13] someone else might have used that more recently [12:13] um [12:14] then how do u guys edit GRUB??? [12:14] isnt it with the leafpad and then manually typing? [12:14] cuz ive got no GRUB app in the menu [12:14] There is no such app... [12:14] yeah [12:14] so it has to be manual [12:14] !grub2 | Mitizaro [12:14] Mitizaro: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [12:14] I am installing xubuntu on my dads old laptop and wondering whether to install the latest release or the LTS 12.04. [12:15] but i get permission denied when opening it with right click> open with leafpad [12:15] oh i see [12:16] the grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg just auto-attuned grub [12:16] nice!! [12:16] thank u, now i'm gonna restart and see what happens [12:17] Guerilla, the newest version has a month life cycle. LTS has 5 years on the desktop and a new verion coming April. Your choice [12:18] cfhowlett: they've gone :) [12:19] Hope they chose wisely [12:19] good job they don't think that 13.10 only has a month life cycle though :D [12:19] okay [12:19] didnt work [12:20] i get some error file not found and [12:20] (when i click the xub choice) [12:20] Mitizaro, no error messages = no way to analyze your issue [12:20] and then black screen -- keyboard's caps lock and the second green lamp - pinging on/off [12:21] i guess i didn't install it properly - gotta secure the valuable files here, and i'm gonna install XUB in "auto install" and erase everything with it (i have VL's disc too) [12:21] Mitizaro: Thats a kernel panic then. [12:21] lol [12:21] what? [12:22] Your kernel died, missing in action, so to say. [12:22] aha... so what can i do? [12:22] i mean [12:22] it will probably be okay if [12:23] i just reinstall XUB on ALL of the hard? [12:23] erasing all other OS [12:23] Please dont press enter that often, it makes things hard to read. [12:23] Mitizaro, that should clear everything up, yes [12:23] i see [12:23] !enter [12:23] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [12:24] THANKS TO ALL OF U -- i wish u a nice day! :) [12:27] Hello, anyone here? [12:31] amixer set Master toggle [12:31] doesnt toggle [12:31] lol [14:55] I've problems with ubiquity when installing xubuntu 13.10, is always crashing. Can somebody help me? [15:02] hey there -- i can't configure my NVIDIA drivers.. after running: "nvidia-xconfig" i get the message: " [15:02] WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file. ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'. " [15:03] both happens on the 310. ver and the 173. ver (before AND after reboot) [15:05] someone? [15:07] helooooooooooo [17:53] how do i setup a local mailserver or mailspool file to read system messages (or to email other users on the same system without accessing the network or internet)? [17:55] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer is where i would start gdos .. maybe moving to a server channel or mailing list for specifics.. you can try #ubuntu since this is not specific to xubuntu or XFCE [17:55] hello can someone tell where where i can adjust the brightness for my lap top got 13.10 [17:56] Donnie_Darko21: i use the keyboard shortcuts, and they "just work" on most of my intel hardware machines.. this functionality may depend on the graphics driver or driver support from the manufacturer [17:56] Donnie_Darko21: hello again, you should have keys for that in the top row of your laptop's keyboard [17:56] oh when i press FN plus for high lights [17:56] it wont let me to make it high [17:57] Donnie_Darko21: is it adjusting it at all? [17:57] yes [17:57] but 1 sec [17:57] and back again to low lights [17:57] if so, then the issue is not "i need to adjust brightness".. occasionally, i have added a kernel line to get the screen brighter.. or used a different or more suitabe driver [17:58] Donnie_Darko21: can you open a terminal, run 'xrandr' in it and pastebin the result at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ? [17:58] Donnie_Darko21: so, you brighten the screen, and when idle, the screen dims? if so, that is a setting in power management [17:58] hmm in ubuntu was called brighness and was at seeting or tweak [17:58] Donnie_Darko21: xubuntu *is* ubuntu [17:58] yes but cant find it [17:58] in settings or tweak [17:58] Donnie_Darko21: the setting im referring to is in the powermanagement.. for dimming the screen whed idle [17:59] i see but its not power managment from power on the lap top the default lights is low [18:00] Donnie_Darko21: and the paste output of xrandr? [18:00] one sec [18:01] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6427569/ [18:04] which software can i install compatible with xfce for adjusting brightness [18:06] mine eyes burning me [18:06] come on :D [18:15] omg cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness is 7 [18:21] Donnie_Darko21: ok, try this: xrandr --output LVDS1 --brightness 1 [18:22] nothing happen [18:22] ok now [18:22] installed xbacklight [18:22] it work [18:23] set to 100 [18:24] cant find some gui software [18:44] where can i find ubuntu software i need the bin [18:44] path [18:48] the path for ubuntu software center [18:48] usr/share/bin I guess [18:49] //usr/bin/software-center [18:50] without the extra one ;) [18:54] yeah thanks [18:54] but dont install the adobe flash [18:54] In what ways would Xubuntu differ from Debian with xfce? [18:54] i really hate adobe flash [18:55] I'm surprised how much stuff works today even if you don't have Adobe Flash installed. [18:55] Pleasantly surprised, mind. [18:56] yeah but really its very bad always its wrong with adobe and why they dont to it .deb file [18:57] if i m not wrong which was it for converting into deb file ... rpm to deb ? [18:58] found it with alien [18:58] and yeah [18:59] for java too [18:59] ;D [18:59] always conflicting [18:59] i will try with alien now [18:59] usually using rpms is a pretty bad idea [18:59] they are not prepared for your system [19:06] hmm did alien can convert it ? [19:06] will be deb then :) [19:28] helllllllo there... someone here? [19:28] no [19:28] No, we were all eaten by small dogs. [19:28] ;-) [19:30] okay [19:30] so [19:30] my nvidia drivers cant install them in XUB 13.10 [19:31] i did it, but i've got to run "nvidia-xconfig" [19:32] i do so, and i get this: [19:32] WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file. [19:32] ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'." [19:32] aaaaand so i cant use my drivers.. [19:33] small dogs invasion!?!?!? [19:34] * ball nods [19:34] Those happen. [19:34] shiet.. [19:34] so any ideas how i can fix that? i run it as root, it happens with the 170 and 310 drivers too... [19:35] oh shiet.. [19:35] i remembered -- i have to deinstall a lot of stuff i think [19:40] brb [19:59] hi [20:00] xubuntu broadcom bcm4311 wireless problem. help mi [20:01] lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 [20:01] iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. [20:02] !broadcom | xubuntu642 [20:02] xubuntu642: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [20:02] thank you [20:03] xubuntu642: the easy way, in my opinion.. wire up to network access, search the repos for "broadcom".. install the package the wiki states supports your device [20:04] I have to do what you show [20:05] lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 [20:05] 10:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01) [20:07] xubuntu642: yes.. that ist he information i would reference on the wiki.. for that specific device.. and install what is suggested [20:09] I want to run wifi [20:09] what should I do [20:10] xubuntu642: correct.. the link i gave give the information to add the packages that will support your broadcom device [20:10] you should read the link i gave, find the information about what package supports your device, install the package and test the wifi [20:11] xubuntu642: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source ..for example [20:12] I'm really impressed by how well WiFi worked on my daughter's Xubuntu box. [20:12] ball: its really up to the driver. if the device supports linux, it'll work well [20:13] holstein: That part worked for me and the user interface was simple enough too: click the WiFi signal bar thinggie, choose our wireless LAN from the list presented and enter the passphrase. [20:13] sure, most modern operating system support joining wifi networks, and do it well [20:14] holstein: Perhaps I'm not used to modern operating systems ;-) [20:14] sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source Paket listeleri okunuyor... Bitti Bağımlılık ağacı oluşturuluyor Durum bilgisi okunuyor... Bitti Aşağıdaki paketler yükseltilecek: bcmwl-kernel-source 1 paket yükseltilecek, 0 yeni paket kurulacak, 0 paket kaldırılacak ve 0 paket yükseltilmeyecek. 1.743 kB arşiv dosyası indirilecek. Bu işlem tamamlandıktan sonra 1.823 kB ek disk alanı kullanılacak. Alı [20:14] ball: or, you have had unsupported hardware, and somehow thought that was the responsibility of the OS [20:14] !paste | xubuntu642 [20:14] xubuntu642: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [20:15] holstein: No, that's not it. [20:15] xubuntu642: whats the question? [20:15] The question may have been asked but I don't think it was in English [20:15] ball: OK.. the click-n-join-a-wifi "thingie" has been working for me quite well for a while.. though, i have had issues with wifi relating to driver support [20:16] * ball nods [20:16] xubuntu642: please prepend LC_ALL=en-us to the apt-get command, so that the output is in english [20:16] xubuntu642: LC_ALL=en-us sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source [20:17] restricted i386 6.30.223.141 + BDCOM bcmwl - kernel-source - 0ubuntu1 [ 1743 kB] 5 sec. Were also 1,743 kB (319 kB / s) ( Reading database ... 174687 files or folders available is installed. ) 5.100.82.112 + BDCOM prepared to change bcmwl - kernel-source - 0ubuntu3 ( using .../bcmwl-kernel-source_6.30.223.141 + BDCOM - 0ubuntu1_i386.deb ) ... Removing all DKMS Modules Done . Unpacking replacement bcmwl - kernel-source ... bcmwl [20:17] Loading new bcmwl - 6.30.223.141 + BDCOM DKMS files ... Building only for 3.11.0 -13 -generic Building for architecture i686 Building initial module for 3.11.0 -13 -generic Done . [20:17] xubuntu642: please use a pastbin.. [20:17] wl : Running module version sanity check . - Original module - No original module exists within this kernel - Installation - Installing to / lib/modules/3.11.0-13-generic/updates/dkms / [20:17] xubuntu642: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [20:18] * ball hides [20:18] xubuntu642: that looks to me as if the package is installing the drivers needed. whats the question? [20:18] does not work [20:19] xubuntu642: what doesnt do what? [20:19] xubuntu642: you installed the package? and rebooted the machine? and tested the wifi? what operating system do you have installed? xubuntu 13.10? [20:22] ok === xubuntu338 is now known as Keyboard_1310 [22:44] hello [23:17] hello [23:20] hey Keyboard_1310 [23:20] hey Nos [23:21] I'm tryign to remap some keys having some issues with 13.10 [23:21] amixer set 'Master' toggle doesnt work [23:22] how do I play ape files (audio format) under xubuntu 13.10? gmusicbrowserd doesnt play int [23:22] it* [23:23] try audacious+ codecs? [23:24] latest audacious should play it [23:26] thx Keyboard_1310 , any idea on how to get gmusicbroser to play it? [23:26] or, can I also configure audacious for my music library? [23:28] try installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and -ugly [23:29] and gstreamer-ffmpeg [23:43] what happened to pwmconfig in 13.10 [23:43] ARGH