[00:15] <Noskcaj> Is there any issue with me going through the kde 4.11.3 list and see what can be synced?
[00:19] <sgclark> Hello folks, I work on documention over at KDE and was told to speak up here to help out with you as well ! if there is anything I can do I am here at your service.
[00:21] <valorie> sgclark: can you attend http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/21980/community-1311-docteam-roundtable/ ?
[00:21] <valorie> also, our todos are in the trello in the /topic
[00:22] <sgclark> yes Tues? I can do that
[00:23] <sgclark> signed up
[00:23] <valorie> awesome
[00:24] <valorie> you might look at the devel list, and see what the discussion has been for the last month or two
[00:24] <valorie> basics: we develop our docs on the wiki (ubuntu/kub wiki for now)
[00:25] <valorie> they get transferred to docs.kubuntu.org
[00:25] <valorie> and become part of the iso as well
[00:25] <sgclark> oh ok, I have been working with docbooks, but I am sure I can figure it out :)
[00:25] <valorie> right
[00:25] <valorie> so our docs on the iso used to be docbook
[00:26] <valorie> our ultimate plan is to take those old docbook docs, and trim them to the essentials
[00:26] <valorie> basically what hardly changes
[00:26] <valorie> and then get those translated in every tongue possible
[00:26] <sgclark> yeah, KDE is doing that too
[00:26] <valorie> right
[00:26] <valorie> it's what makes sense
[00:26] <sgclark> yep
[00:26] <valorie> keep the changeable stuff easy to change
[00:27] <valorie> keep the basics translated
[00:27] <sgclark> cuts down on alot of repeated docs lol
[00:27] <valorie> making the transition has been a bit bumpy though
[00:27] <sgclark> yeah, there too
[00:27] <valorie> we've lost darkwing who used to be our docbook expert
[00:27] <valorie> and used to head up docs
[00:28] <sgclark> I am getting pretty good at it
[00:30] <valorie> I'm so happy to see you here, and volunteering
[00:30] <valorie> I hope you write to the list about it so aaron sees
[00:30] <valorie> ahoneybun: ^^^
[00:30] <sgclark> list?
[00:30] <valorie> kubuntu-devel
[00:30] <sgclark> off to search lol
[00:31] <valorie> that's what I meant by looking at the list archives
[00:31] <valorie> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com I think
[00:38] <sgclark> ok signed up and mail sent :)
[00:46] <valorie> awesome
[00:46]  * valorie goes off to prepare dinner
[00:46] <sgclark> same
[00:49] <yofel> Noskcaj: hm, it would be really great if you could look through 4.11.3 and check whether some of the diff can by minimized. But you can't really sync anything.
[00:50] <yofel> For whatever changes you do, they need to be applied to the Vcs-Bzr branch and merged into our WIP 4.11.80 packaging
[00:50] <Noskcaj> Why is it so rare to merge stuff from debian and actually use a -1 release in kubuntu?
[00:51] <valorie> not rare, but we're really stretched thin right now
[00:51] <yofel> because our release schedule, kde's release schedule, and the packaging speed of the debian-qt-kde team totally don't match
[00:52] <yofel> also, our current packaging process heavily relies on bzr and makes straight package sync hard to do
[00:52] <Noskcaj> ok
[01:13] <shadeslayer> what's a -1 release?
[01:13] <yofel> shadeslayer: debian -1
[01:13] <shadeslayer> I still don't get it :S
[01:15] <yofel> shadeslayer: e.g. 4.11.3-1 ?
[01:15] <shadeslayer> ah, that makes more sense now
[01:15] <yofel> ^^
[01:31] <genii> jussi: My shirt finally arrived :)
[01:53] <genii> Is netrunner being supported in #kubuntu now?
[01:54] <shadeslayer> no
[01:54] <shadeslayer> #kubuntu is for Kubuntu support only
[01:55] <genii> shadeslayer: OK. I can't find a netrunner specific channel, they should go to main kde channel or so instead?
[01:55] <shadeslayer> well, #kde or the Netrunner forums I suppose
[01:56] <shadeslayer> http://forums.netrunner-os.com/
[01:56] <shadeslayer> I think forums is the best way to get your problems sorted out
[01:57] <shadeslayer> yofel: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?64176-Can-I-install-KDE-4-5-on-my-Kubuntu
[01:57] <shadeslayer> apparently the software should match tutorials and not the other way around
[02:31] <ahoneybun> welcome sgclark :)
[02:32] <sgclark> thanks!
[02:32] <ahoneybun> valorie: I read it right now
[02:32] <ahoneybun> sgclark: sounds like you can bring a lot to the table
[02:32] <ahoneybun> not just that UDS lol
[02:33] <sgclark> here to help, just point me in a direction lol
[02:33] <sgclark> i am good at figuring out what to do if I know what
[02:33] <sgclark> project wise
[02:34] <ahoneybun> valorie gave you a good idea what we want to do
[02:34] <sgclark> wiki?
[02:34] <ahoneybun> I think but I'll answer whatever questions you have 
[02:35] <ahoneybun> we were looking into a different wiki for better translations and easier output for the site
[02:36] <sgclark> is 13.10 the correct kubuntu to be running?
[02:37] <ahoneybun> yea that is the latest release
[02:37] <sgclark> k , good, think it was rather recently I updated
[02:38] <ahoneybun> yep
[02:38] <ahoneybun> I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 currently
[02:39] <ahoneybun> but I think I have Kubuntu 13.10 in a VM
[02:39] <ahoneybun> yep
[02:41] <ahoneybun> we are using trello to track our progress btw
[02:41] <ahoneybun> https://trello.com/b/4zyxwgRP/14-04-documentation
[04:22] <sgclark> okies, so I seem to be lost. the wiki todo links to quantal (last release?) but the trello leads to 14.04 (next?) I am not sure where I need to be, I have yet to even find the wiki that needs updating lol
[04:26] <ScottK> sgclark: 13.10 is the current release, so that's what most people will be running.  We're working on developing 14.04, so that's where the focus for new work is.
[04:27] <ScottK> Since it's rather early in the release cycle, it might be better to review the 13.10 docs for 13.10 (since that's what you're running) and see if there are things that ought to be fixed.
[04:30] <sgclark> ok :) that works, can you point me to that please
[04:42]  * ScottK tries to remember.
[04:42] <ScottK> http://docs.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs.html
[04:42] <ScottK> There's a wiki version of that somewhere that can be edited.
[04:42] <sgclark> hehe no worries, think I am going to break, will continue my efforts in the morning
[04:42] <ScottK> You can see it's no much.
[04:43] <ScottK> s//no/not/
[04:43] <kubotu> ScottK meant: "noYou can see it's no much."
[04:43] <ScottK> Argh.
[04:44] <sgclark> ok, easy enough, links to kde docs from what I see
[04:49] <sgclark> no link to kontact that I can see! this is where most of my contribution is for KDE, must change that lol
[07:24] <genii> On a clean install, is Saucy using Wayland?
[07:34] <valorie> genii: not yet
[07:34] <valorie> there is a kwin testing branch, I believe
[07:35] <genii> valorie: OK. A user earlier in #ubuntu running a clean Kubuntu and his xorg.conf apparently not being used.
[07:35] <genii> Since my box is just continuously been upgraded wasn't sure
[07:36] <valorie> that's odd
[12:28] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:29] <soee> hiho lordievader  :)
[12:32] <lordievader> Hey soee, how are you doing?
[12:40] <soee> lordievader, im fine :) we have a nice sunday here in Poland, how is yours ?
[12:42] <lordievader> My sunday is pretty good so far :)
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:22] <sgclark> hiyas
[20:05] <Noskcaj> shadeslayer_, Do you mind if i merge gtk2-engines-oxygen?
[20:05] <shadeslayer_> go ahead
[20:28] <Noskcaj> Mind if i file a few sync bugs for the more minor kde packages?
[20:35] <yofel> Noskcaj: preferably not. It could be done, but then someone has to merge the sync and our packaging branches which currently have UNRELEASED 4.11.80
[20:35] <Noskcaj> ok
[20:35] <yofel> *which
[20:36] <Noskcaj> kbounce is the only package i've found so far that is syncable
[20:48] <shadeslayer_> Noskcaj: KDE SC? Please no
[20:49] <Noskcaj> ok