[00:02] <jovando> this is recovery mode: http://imagebin.org/277393
[00:02] <jovando> i chose fsck
[00:02] <Joit> ok
[00:02] <jovando> now i have this screen
[00:02] <jovando> http://imagebin.org/277392
[00:03] <Joit> you cant do much wrong there, even can get a command line there
[00:03] <jovando> is this normal?
[00:03] <Joit> yes
[00:03] <jovando> have the command line now
[00:03] <Joit> it only says, now it mounts your devices, when they are allready mounted, you should not run fsck
[00:03] <jovando> finished
[00:03] <Joit> thats why you use recovery mode, where you can use this function save
[00:04] <Joit> ok, and no errors ?
[00:05] <jovando> http://imagebin.org/277394
[00:06] <jovando> i dont know
[00:06] <jovando> is this a error or is all ok
[00:06] <jovando> 0.1 percent looks not so good
[00:07] <Joit> it did say at the end if it there is something wrong, but if you get Press Enter, anything seems ok
[00:07] <Joit> thats ok
[00:07] <Joit> means only your files are not clean saved, but 0,1% is good
[00:08] <jovando> omg
[00:08] <Joit> now go to network and start it
[00:08] <Joit> what omg ?
[00:09] <Joit> you have anything at one partition?
[00:09] <jovando> oh my good
[00:09] <jovando> god
[00:09] <Joit> i usually make 2 partitions, one for home, one for the system, that way i can set up all time a new system but keeping my files at the home partition
[00:10] <jovando> i have 5 or 6 partitions
[00:10] <jovando> http://imagebin.org/277395
[00:10] <jovando> done
[00:11] <jovando> i have now a command line
[00:11] <Joit> yes, thats a root command line
[00:11] <jovando> ok, what now=
[00:11] <jovando> ?
[00:11] <Joit> hum
[00:11] <Joit> you didnt load the network now, right?
[00:12] <Joit> you can type "exit!" and come back to the screen
[00:12] <jovando> i chose network
[00:13] <Joit> so, whats your video card, you say, it doesnt start anymore because it doesnt load your driver anymore?
[00:13] <jovando> yes i have nvidia
[00:13] <jovando> i chose network at this screen: http://imagebin.org/277393
[00:14] <jovando> thats the result: http://imagebin.org/277395
[00:14] <jovando> ok, i am back in the menu now
[00:14] <jovando> network should be enabled
[00:14] <jovando> what now?
[00:15] <jovando> yes that is right error: load fallback graphic devices                [fail]
[00:16] <jovando> when i now click on network, the screen http://imagebin.org/277395 dont appear anymore
[00:18] <Joit> now try root for a shell
[00:20] <Joit> there you can try to install a new driver for yor system.
[00:21] <Joit> the menu only executes the options, only the shell is permanent
[00:21] <Joit> you remind me at it, as i messed my video drivers up too, and i couldnt find a working one
[00:24] <jovando> ok thx, and what should i type in?
[00:26] <Joit> i need to look what is the best. you may should use a packet manager like dselect
[00:27] <Joit> it can look if you have all depencies
[00:29] <Joit> maybe try aptitude, or install it with apt-get install aptitude
[00:29] <jovando> ups have deselect installed: http://imagebin.org/277403
[00:29] <jovando> i will remove it
[00:30] <jovando> how can i remove that - so that nothing is left?
[00:30] <Joit> ok. as you want, but its no big deal, try aptitude, i think its better
[00:30] <jovando> ok, and how can i remove the program, so that nothing is left?
[00:30] <jovando> remove? autoremove? or purge?
[00:31] <Joit> dpkg -r
[00:32] <Joit> or apt-get remove
[00:32] <jovando> he writes: "dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching dselect
[00:32] <Joit> apt-get --purge remove dselect
[00:32] <jovando> ok done
[00:33] <Joit> now install aptitude, its more handy i think
[00:34] <Joit> from your last screen it says you could update some packages
[00:35] <Joit> a guess, did you have problems with your installation before, or did you delete some packages, where it did remove more as you did want?
[00:35] <jovando> ok, sry i had to for my pizza
[00:36] <Joit> happy pizza then
[00:38] <jovando> it seems like that aptitude is already installed
[00:38] <jovando> http://imagebin.org/277406
[00:39] <Joit> ok, do maybe a apt-get -u upgrade
[00:41] <Joit> its on your screen allready too, to do apt-get update or apt-get update --fix-missing
[00:42] <jovando> this is my screen now:
[00:42] <jovando> should i do the another first before i click yes
[00:42] <jovando> ?
[00:43] <Joit> first update, then upgrade
[00:43] <Joit> but not dist-upgrade
[00:43] <Joit> but you can do that with aptitude too i think
[00:44] <jovando> ok, first update means: apt-get update --fix missing
[00:44] <Joit> ok
[00:46] <valorie> dist-upgrade is GOOD
[00:46] <valorie> that upgrades all your packages
[00:46] <valorie> it does not move you to the next version
[00:47] <jovando> apt-get update --fix missing dont work
[00:47] <Joit> hi valorie good to see you alive :)
[00:48] <jovando> http://imagebin.org/277411
[00:48] <jovando> oh sorry i have forget the - between fix and missing
[00:48] <valorie> no, the --fix-missing should go with the upgrade command
[00:49] <valorie> update just updates your source repos
[00:49] <valorie> i'm alive but about to go fix dinner
[00:50] <jovando> i have done apt-get update fix-missing, but i have several warnings and errors
[00:51] <jovando> http://imagebin.org/277412
[00:52] <valorie> just do apt-get update
[00:52] <valorie> no --fix-missing
[00:53] <jovando> ok
[00:53] <valorie> also: do a copy/paste to a pastebin
[00:53] <valorie> the images are impossible to read, since they don't cover the entire screen
[00:53] <valorie> !paste
[00:53] <valorie> this time I'm really going aft
[00:54] <valorie> afk
[00:54] <Joit> you ned to sudo apt-get
[00:55] <jovando> at apt-get update i have this result: http://imagebin.org/277414
[00:55] <Joit> but well, i forgot its the recovery ko0nsole
[00:56] <Joit> at last, it updated some of your files?
[00:56] <jovando> i know i dont have to add sudo, right
[00:56] <jovando> ?
[00:56] <Joit> if some urls dont work, its not fatal error
[00:57] <Joit> you simple type sudo apt-get update ie
[00:57] <jovando> the last error dont looks good
[00:57] <jovando> http://imagebin.org/277414
[00:57] <Joit> "sudo command"
[00:57] <jovando> so i should repeat it with sudo command?
[00:57] <Joit> well it says only some hosts are not reachable at the moment, its no big thing
[00:58] <jovando> ok, so: sudo apt-get update ie now?
[00:58] <Joit> apt-get looks usually for more sources, where it can find the files to update,. if some dont works, it only says that
[00:58] <Joit> did yur update finish allready or only showe this errors
[00:59] <jovando> should I add ie to the command too?
[00:59] <Joit> but mainly, it compares the source hosts, compare the files, and dload them, where it can find some, else, for the others, what dont work, it shows this error
[01:00] <Joit> simple. when you run a command, like apt-get, you either type apt-get install, then it says, you need root privileges, then you type sudo apt-get install
[01:00] <Joit> after that, you need to type your root password in
[01:01] <Joit> so either, you run a command as superuser, (sudo) or as normal user
[01:01] <Joit> does that make sense?
[01:02] <jovando> i think so - i know that you usually need sudo to install something - but here i am root
[01:02] <Joit> yeah i assume too, that it works without root
[01:02] <jovando> I was not asked about my password because of i am root anyway
[01:02] <Joit> did it update now the files?
[01:02] <Joit> i cant see it on the screen
[01:03] <jovando> the same error as before
[01:03] <jovando> one moment
[01:04] <Joit> strange anyhow,, apt-get update --fix-missing works by me
[01:04] <jovando> this is what i typed in: http://imagebin.org/277415
[01:05] <Joit> ok what happens?
[01:05] <jovando> And this is the result: http://imagebin.org/277416
[01:05] <jovando> ^^ no ask for password
[01:06] <jovando> what do you recommend?
[01:08] <Joit> did you start your network this time ? you have a connection to the internet?
[01:09] <jovando> i should because i have already installed dselect
[01:09] <jovando> when i try: "ping www.google.com"
[01:09] <jovando> the output is: ping: unknown host www.google.com
[01:11] <Joit> try dhclient
[01:11] <Joit> or sudo dhclient
[01:12] <jovando> output of ping: http://imagebin.org/277417
[01:13] <Joit> you dont need to do a picture from any command :)
[01:14] <jovando> this is the output: http://imagebin.org/277418
[01:14] <jovando> when i try sudo dhclient it is the same
[01:14] <jovando> it is easier for me
[01:14] <jovando> and easier for you i hope
[01:15] <Joit> ok, try exit
[01:15] <Joit> then you come back to the menu
[01:15] <Joit> not sure if your etowrk works, it seems it does
[01:15] <Joit> your network
[01:16] <jovando> jep
[01:16] <Joit> there choose dpkg
[01:16] <jovando> i am at recovery menu now
[01:16] <jovando> ok
[01:16] <Joit> ok. do dpkg or start network
[01:16] <Joit> well i think we save some time without puictures :)
[01:18] <jovando> should i klick yes? http://imagebin.org/277420
[01:18] <jovando> yes, but not at long texts
[01:19] <Joit> yes
[01:19] <Joit> hit y
[01:19] <Joit> flashpligun is the adobe flash, linux headers generic are something you need to load the kernel
[01:20] <Joit> and rest are libs what are neded
[01:20] <jovando> oh it needs 5 min
[01:20] <Joit> you got a 56k modem? then enjoy your pizza at the meantime
[01:20] <jovando> is it ok when i go smoking a joint
[01:20] <jovando> ?
[01:20] <Joit> only, when it has a lenght more then 15 cm
[01:20] <jovando> i have mobile internet
[01:20] <jovando> max. 10 MBit/s
[01:21] <jovando> but most time the half
[01:21] <Joit> thats a lot usually, i got something with 1,2mbit
[01:21] <Joit> and thats a fast line what i have
[01:21] <Joit> for 300mb i may need about 2 mins
[01:22] <jovando> thats good enough
[01:22] <jovando> may i go smoke the joint in the meanwhile=
[01:22] <jovando> ?
[01:23] <Joit> ok then lets wait until its finnished, i get a drink at the meantime
[01:23] <jovando> ok, thx in advance you are very cool :-)
[01:30] <jovando> omg my screen is black now
[01:30] <jovando> is this a kind of screensaver?
[01:31] <Joit> i think so, try space
[01:32] <jovando> oh, i just clicked left and right
[01:32] <jovando> http://imagebin.org/277424
[01:33] <Joit> ok, it doesnt matter, because the script will run until it stops, no matter what you did type
[01:34] <jovando> ok
[01:34] <Joit> so far you didnt hit ctrl-c
[01:34] <jovando> right
[01:34] <jovando> now i am here
[01:34] <jovando> http://imagebin.org/277425
[01:36] <jovando> now i am here: http://imagebin.org/277426
[01:37] <jovando> no, didnt hit Ctrl c
[01:38] <Joit> looking up for that error
[01:38] <jovando> this is the last screen: http://imagebin.org/277427
[01:39] <Joit> ok someone says, you need to ... sudo apt-get remove nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-glx then reboot
[01:39] <Joit> then sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-glx
[01:40] <Joit> means uninstall nvidiakernle-dkms and nvidia-glx, reboot and isntall it again
[01:40] <jovando> ok, must say for this here : http://imagebin.org/277426 i have tested this kernel
[01:40] <jovando> i was the issue for that i couldnt boot into the KDE with no kernel
[01:41] <Joit> ok, when this now works its ok
[01:41] <Joit> else you may need to reinstall this both packages
[01:41] <jovando> ok, i have pressed enter at last screen, now i am in the recovery menu
[01:41] <genii> Hm.
[01:41] <jovando> should i root again
[01:41] <Joit> start the network first
[01:41] <jovando> and type the commands you gave me?
[01:42] <Joit> genii, hm?
[01:42] <Joit> you could try to boot the kernel, if it works
[01:42] <jovando> .-)
[01:42] <jovando> :-)
[01:42] <jovando> before i do your commands?
[01:42] <Joit> normal, without recovery, when it doesnt work, you may do the reinstall
[01:42] <jovando> ok
[01:43] <genii> Joit: I came in at some point after the original problem had been described or addressed. Just noticing the 3.12 kernel on screenshot.
[01:43] <Joit> he says, he cant load his kernel anymore because something is wrong with his video drivers genii
[01:44] <Joit> he tried to boot with a cd and chroot somewhat, to install the right drivers or at last boot kde
[01:45] <Joit> i told him to use the recovery menu from grub, and there it turns out that his system is nt updtodate, and that is, what we did now
[01:45] <genii> jovando: Notmally on the grub menu you will have the last few kernels which are on the system from upgrades. You are not able to use a previous kernel which was working ?
[01:46] <jovando> fist i was able to use the kernel: 3.2.0-generic pae
[01:47] <jovando> after install of test kernel - just booted one time into kde and then no kernel worked (booted) any more
[01:48] <jovando> sorry i meant the kernel: 3.2.0-52 generic pae
[01:48] <Joit> you tried to compile on by yourself, yes?
[01:48] <jovando> and the newer ones didnt work
[01:48] <jovando> so after report to launchpad
[01:48] <jovando> they wrote me a mail where i should try a test kernel
[01:49] <jovando> and after one boot into kde with test kernel - i had to restart (recommended from system) - then i couldnt boot any kernel any more
[01:49] <jovando> compile?
[01:49] <genii> The first thing you should do is get your system working with a stock kernel, and booting. Then to consider whether you need some custom kernel.
[01:49] <Joit> strange story anyhow, do you have a exotic system for a "test-kernel"?
[01:49] <jovando> what does that exactly mean?
[01:50] <jovando> jep i have Netrunner
[01:50] <Joit> stock kernel - generic kernel, what you get with your packetmanager
[01:51] <jovando> hey, now i booted with "Netrunner, with linux kernel 3.2.0-52-generic pae and it works!!! :-)
[01:51] <genii> Netrunner is not even a supported distribution in this channel
[01:51] <genii> This channel is for Kubuntu support.
[01:52] <jovando> but it is the kubuntu version 11.04 LTS
[01:52] <shadeslayer> no
[01:52] <jovando> it also look likes the same, except of the button on the left bottom corner
[01:52] <shadeslayer> 12.04 is LTS
[01:52] <jovando> oh, sorry yes
[01:52] <jovando> 12.04 LTS
[01:52] <jovando> yea i booted now
[01:52] <jovando> to kde
[01:52] <Joit> nice
[01:53] <Joit> at last
[01:53] <jovando> can i remove my test kernel now?
[01:53] <Joit> trow it on mount everest ..
[01:53] <Joit> or from it down
[01:53] <Joit> well, i dont know if you like to play around with it, maybe youonly missed to load some modules
[01:53] <jovando> mount everest? what is that?
[01:54] <Joit> thats a biig mountain
[01:54] <Joit> where this kernel hopefully falls into a deep hole
[01:54] <jovando> oh, sorry :-) yes i will do
[01:54] <jovando> can you give me advice how to remove this test kernel?
[01:55] <Joit> use a package manager, it should do it
[01:56] <Joit> i have muon on my system :)
[01:56] <jovando> hm, i think i had installed it via dpkg on console
[01:56] <Joit> that doesnt matter
[01:57] <Joit> i think all the package manager use it too at backround
[01:57] <genii> jovando: I just asked in the Kubuntu development channel to clarify where you should seek support. It is recommended either #kde or the forums at http://forums.netrunner-os.com/
[01:57] <Joit> but any packet manager is good enough to remove something from the system
[01:58] <jovando> huh, there are tousands of kernels
[01:58] <jovando> how can i find it
[01:59] <Joit> try linux-headers and look right side, wich one is installed
[01:59] <genii> Joit: If you wish to give jovando support, please go to PM, and keep the channel clear for Kubuntu users which may be seeking support here.
[02:00] <Joit> yeah, well, i stayed here for about a half hour and noone said something, even did not ask my question, but now you think there are 100 ppls what look for support?
[02:00] <genii> The #kubuntu-offtopic channel may also be appropriate, if it is quiet there.
[02:00] <Joit> i may wait after jovanda another hour that someone maybe says something again
[02:01] <genii> Joit: Regardless, this is not the netrunner support channel.
[02:01] <genii> Joit: If you have a Kubuntu question, please ask again and it may be addressed.,
[02:02] <Joit> genii: why does that look like a netrunner support, when he cant boot his kernel anymore
[02:02]  * shadeslayer can look at questions right now
[02:02] <shadeslayer> Kubuntu ones that is
[02:02] <jovando> ok, sry, i didnt know that this is so strict - i use konversation the 2nd time in my life
[02:03] <Joit> jovando:  i hate it, that it is like that
[02:03] <shadeslayer> Joit: sometimes netrunner ships Custom kernels from the mainline PPA which are not supported officially, they also use apt pinning and what not so it could be a upgrade gone wrong
[02:03] <Joit> and i big reason that i really seldom ask for help in this 'friendly ' channel for help
[02:03] <jovando22> ok, this is my other username
[02:03] <jovando22> my other system i mean
[02:04] <shadeslayer> Joit: which is why it's going to be hard to debug issues, and an entire waste of time for other Kubuntu users to try and help since the kernel could be vastly different from what they're using
[02:04] <genii> jovando: Because there are many distributions which are based from Ubuntu/Kubuntu and they all have their own specific quirks which are different from the regular official distributions, it is impossible to support them all and so we must stay with the official distribution.
[02:05] <shadeslayer> I know for eg. that Netrunner doesn't ship PA, but Kubuntu does, so any issues related to sound are also going to be hard to debug
[02:05] <jovando22> ok, i understand - but netrunner isnt a competition or so?
[02:05] <shadeslayer> no
[02:05] <genii> Joit: To the contrary, this is normally a very friendly channel :)
[02:05] <jovando22> what is PA?
[02:05] <genii> PulseAudio
[02:05] <shadeslayer> !pulseaudio
[02:06] <shadeslayer> ...
[02:06] <jovando22> ok
[02:06] <shadeslayer> jovando22: TBH the best way to get support for Netrunner is via the forums
[02:06] <shadeslayer> any issues mentioned on the forums are likely to be actively looked into rather than issues mentioned on IRC
[02:07] <genii> jovando: I do realize your issue is important and should be addressed, however, the proper way is always first to seek help with the people who made your distribution
[02:07] <shadeslayer> ^^
[02:07] <jovando22> ok, i will install kubuntu the next time anyway
[02:08] <jovando22> because i already has a gib number of problems
[02:08] <jovando22> gib = big
[02:09] <jovando22> so, i have found my kernel now
[02:09] <jovando22> and i can remove it whitout any problems rihgt?
[02:09] <shadeslayer> why would you want to remove a kernel?
[02:10] <jovando22> sry, just some last questions: does it matter if i remove the header or the image kernel first?
[02:10] <jovando22> i just want to remove the test kernel
[02:10] <shadeslayer> okay
[02:10] <jovando22> because it is not part of the repo
[02:10] <shadeslayer> no, it doesn't matter if you remove either of those first
[02:11] <jovando22> ok, i removed the image kernel, but i cant find the header kernel ...
[02:12] <jovando22> can i just remove it via console?
[02:12] <genii> jovando: Probably why nvidia driver failed, since it needs the headers installed, etc. Please come to #kubuntu-offtopic where I will try to give some help.
[02:13] <jovando22> ok thx
[02:15] <jovando22> and btw A BIG THANK YOU!!!! YOU SAVED MY COMPUTER!!!
[02:56] <draikx> What is the package to access large drives? I have 4TB drives that I'm trying to access.
[02:57] <genii> draikx: There should not be any particular package for that. It's more dependant on the filesystem which is on the drive, where the limit is. I have for instance 11TB array with ext4 which is fine to read.
[02:58] <draikx> Alright. Let me work on this a bit further. Thank you, genii.
[03:02] <draikx> genii, how did you format your drives? I'm trying to format the 4TB drive with ext4, but it fails in KDE Partition Manager
[03:05] <genii> draikx: I just marked all the drives with partition type of RAID autodetect with fdisk, then in gparted assembled them into a RAID5 array, after which it formatted without incident
[03:06] <draikx> genii, thank you. Going to do that now.
[03:12] <draikx> genii, that's working :) Thank you!
[03:14] <genii> draikx: Yer welcome :)
[03:21] <Walzmyn> at boot up, my login dialog is on my second monitor, which is almost always off (hdmi to TV) how can I get it back on the primary screen? (Kubuntu 12.04, KDE 4.11.2, AMD Raedon card )
[03:28] <draikx> Walzmyn, Is it your primary display in Settings > Displays?
[03:29] <Walzmyn> draikx: you mean primary output on Displays and Monitors?
[03:30] <Walzmyn> draikx: yes it is
[03:30] <draikx> I used to have the same issue. I just did and un-did a change, so that my primary display was marked as primary again.
[03:31] <Walzmyn> draikx: i tried that
[03:32] <Walzmyn> I had this working correctly for a long time, then I pulled my tower out to clean it and when I put it back I had to re-do everything reguarding dual monitors and this didn't get fixed
[04:15]  * genii makes more coffee
[04:35] <MangaKaDenza> wat
[04:36] <genii> MangaKaDenza: The bots sometimes get confused. No worries.
[04:36] <MangaKaDenza> oic
[07:22] <raice> UBUNTU SUCK
[07:23] <Pupnik___> good thing you use kubuntu
[07:25] <genii> raice: Do you have some support question, or are you just offering your non-constructive criticism?
[07:39] <raice> sorry
[08:01] <sbivol> good morning fellow kubunteros
[08:02] <sbivol> I have an issue with PPTP connectivity in Kubuntu 13.10: it never remembers my password for the VPN connection
[08:03] <sbivol> however, this happens only on fresh installs. my home computer was upgraded to 13.10 and it does remember the password
[08:05] <sbivol> tried on several computers, including the LiveCD - none of them remember the VPN password
[08:05] <sbivol> did anyone experience the same problem?
[11:40] <user2_> when does BluesKaj return
[12:19] <James0r> seems like on linux mint kde i would get the Qt look when i'd install a gtk app, i'm new to Kubuntu, is there something i can change to enable this?
[12:28] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:30] <soee> James0r, you dont have it by default ?
[12:32] <James0r> native apps look fine but, for example, synaptic package manager
[12:32] <James0r> has the cheesy Win98 looking buttons
[12:33] <James0r> http://picpaste.com/snapshot1-ABL7kgvv.png
[12:35] <lordievader> James0r: You need to have gtk3-engines-oxygen and gtk2-engines-oxygen installed.
[12:36] <James0r> lordievader, okay ill check those out.
[12:36] <James0r> lordievader, both are installed already
[12:38] <lordievader> James0r: Hmm ok. What is set in System Settings -> Application Appearance -> GTK for gtk2 and gtk3 theme?
[12:39] <James0r> lordievader, oxygen-gtk for both
[12:40] <James0r> i installed compiz, would that conflict with window styles?
[12:40] <Fa_1> wasnt it that synaptics runs as root?
[12:41] <lordievader> Ah, if so could you try running synaptic without sudo, James0r
[12:42] <tsimpson> you have xchat in the background, that's a GTK app
[12:42] <tsimpson> how does that look?
[12:53] <soee> as lordievader said, running app with sudo might use native styles
[12:56] <lordievader> soee: Actually Fa_1 one said that ;)
[12:57] <James0r> had to put the kid to bed, alright i'll give the non-sudo a shot
[12:58] <James0r> okay sure enough that was it. is there a way to force the qt-look for all users including root?
[13:05] <Fa_1> James0r: well the dirty trick .. 'kdesudo kcmshell4 kde-gtk-config'  or edit the gtk2 and 3 config files (but i dont know them)
[13:14] <James0r> is the only way to get rid of the kde "cashew" to use the ihatethecashew app?
[13:16] <Fa_1> learn to love it :) i always use it to shutdown and lock my screen
[13:25] <crissi> hello
[13:25] <crissi> i'm looking for kde 4.12beta2 packages
[13:38] <soee> crissi, they are not ready yet
[13:38] <crissi> wh?
[13:38] <crissi> y
[13:38] <soee> *for kubuntu thrugh ppa
[13:38] <crissi> yes
[13:38] <crissi> ppa
[13:38] <crissi> i have kubuntu-ppa/beta
[13:38] <crissi> and kubuntu-ppa/backports
[13:39] <soee> yes but they are not finished to be p[ut there, developers are working one them
[13:44] <jovando> hello - i have a problem with booting - this is because my graphics devices failed to load....
[13:45] <jovando> any ideas?
[13:52] <jovando> here is a photo of my screen: http://imagebin.org/277511
[13:53] <jovando> system stuck before booting into kde
[14:18] <jovando> does anyone know what we can do here?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:31] <jovando> do somebody know what i can do when the screen stuck before booting into kde? http://imagebin.org/277511
[14:48] <jdoles> How can I see the current status of pulseaudio?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> jdoles. status as in the daemon ? , if so just type pulseaudio in the terminal
[14:52] <BluesKaj> otherwise install pavucontrol if you don't have it , for input and output etc settings
[14:54] <jdoles> BluesKaj: in pavucontrol, I see a moving bar for a pulse audio output stream, but there is no actual sound being produced.
[14:55] <jdoles> "sound" being air moving at a particular frequency.
[14:56] <jdoles> BluesKaj: with headphones directly into the machine, it does work.
[14:56] <jdoles> Perhaps the cable has come loose, but no idea how that could have happened.
[14:57] <BluesKaj> jdoles. is this a laptop ?
[14:57] <jdoles> BluesKaj: no
[14:57] <jovando> hello everbody, cant boot my system - stuck at this screen: http://imagebin.org/277526
[14:57] <jovando> any idea?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> jdoles. usually the first thing to check is system settings>multimedia >device preference , test the options in the list
[15:01] <crissi> hello
[15:01] <jdoles> BluesKaj: that's set to correct values.
[15:01] <excalibr> hai
[15:02] <jdoles> BluesKaj: I really don't get why these kinds of settings can change out of the blue.
[15:02] <crissi> i have a problem with kmail2 on kubuntu. when signing a message the pinentry dialog shows up and closes quickly and kmail says that the passphrase is wrong
[15:02] <crissi> how i can fix that?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> then alsamixer in the terminak , some ppl have a speaker control , make sure it's not muted (MM) . use the M key to unmte (00)
[15:02] <BluesKaj> jdoles. ^
[15:07] <jdoles> BluesKaj: I got it "working", but alsa and pulseaudio together do not form a consistent system.
[15:08] <jdoles> BluesKaj: basically, when I press M two times, I don't get back in the same state.
[15:08] <jdoles> BluesKaj: this "UI design" can't really be made any worse.
[15:09] <BluesKaj> jdoles. no kidding , linux audio lacks a comprehensive audio suite
[15:09] <jdoles> BluesKaj: I am only "asking" for Windows 1995 level sound features.
[15:10] <BluesKaj> jdoles. just press the M key once
[15:10] <jdoles> Can I store my alsa and pulse settings somewhere such that I can always bring it back in this state?
[15:11] <jdoles> I mean: write a script to apply the current settings when some stupid system has messed up things again.
[15:11] <excalibr> So after playing around with kde these few days, it made me realize how much rigid and dumbed down gnome based DE is. I like almost everything I see in kubuntu except those ugly looking gtk based apps. Is there fix to make them blend well in kde theme?
[15:11] <jdoles> excalibr: what GTK app do you use?
[15:11] <jdoles> excalibr: some have native KDE versions.
[15:12] <jdoles> excalibr: otherwise, I just suggest you get over it, because any theme which is not 'default' is going to be buggy.
[15:12] <jdoles> Some people have made it into a sport to make it look exactly like they want, so YMMV.
[15:12] <excalibr> jdoles, they are some gtk apps that are shipped by default in kubuntu. i dont remember their names
[15:12] <BluesKaj> jdoles. sudo alsactl store
[15:14] <jdoles> BluesKaj: FYI, that doesn't work as sudo, but it does work as root.
[15:16] <Taduro__> Hello, please, can somebody tell me why is this happening? http://susepaste.org/images/75157649.png I'm using a few applications but the memory is almost full.
[15:16] <BluesKaj> jdoles. well, once thaudio saettings are cxhosen in pavucontrol , my setup remains solid
[15:16] <Taduro__> I can translate everything you want
[15:17] <BluesKaj> jdoles. the alsa ctrl settings don't hold after any alsa upgrades
[15:18] <BluesKaj> to which there are very few IME
[15:18] <user2_> BluesKaj: hi, this is guest3298732 from the other day.  i plan to use a nick soon hehe.  would you mind repeating your suggestion from the other day about the graphic upgrade for my kubuntu
[15:20] <BluesKaj> user2_. I suggested you go to the ATI/AMD site nand download the linux ndriver for your card , as a last resort , altho my ATI graphics knowledge is quite limited
[15:21] <user2_> BluesKaj: if i install it for this new user i created, will it be global for the broken user account
[15:22] <BluesKaj> user2_. dunno
[15:22] <user2_> BluesKaj: k thanks
[15:22] <jdoles> BluesKaj: I had it working, and now it's broken again :/
[15:23] <jdoles> alsactl restore worked luckily.
[15:23] <BluesKaj> jdoles. which audio chip is it ?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> alsamixer shows the chip in upper left
[15:28] <Taduro__> applications but the memory is almost full. I can translate everything you want.
[15:41] <Taduro__> Sorry, I'm going to send the message again, I pasted it bad.
[15:42] <Taduro__> Hello, please, can somebody tell me why is this happening? http://susepaste.org/images/75157649.png I'm using a few applications but the memory is almost full. I can translate everything you want.
[15:47] <BluesKaj> Taduro__. kmenu>apps>system>system monitor , choose the system l;oad tab to see what'd happening with memory
[15:47] <user2> id like to run dolphin as sudo, so i closed all dolphin instances, and run 'sudo dolphin'.  this works sometimes, but now i get 'is owned by uid xxxx instead of uid x'.  how do i fully release applications
[15:47] <BluesKaj> what'd=what's
[15:47] <BluesKaj> use kdesudo for GUIs , user2
[15:50] <Taduro__> BluesKaj: http://susepaste.org/99284253
[15:50] <Taduro__> That's what I get :S
[15:54] <BluesKaj> Taduro__. ok scrool down the process table tab, there must be something there that shows what's using all thet memory
[16:06] <Taduro__> BluesKaj: http://susepaste.org/images/23478355.png
[16:06] <Taduro__> I don't see any high waster :S
[16:12] <newbie> hi all, can i check where is the autologin config stored
[16:16] <apachelogger> Taduro__: 400 MiB are being used for cache
[16:16] <apachelogger> seems only fair that since you paied for 2gig of RAM your operating system would make good use of them, no? :P
[16:20] <Taduro__> apachelogger: Before I could use the internet browser, IM, LibreOffice and sometimes, virtualbox. Now I can't. Is there a way to
[16:20] <Taduro__> it isn't. I know, sorry.
[16:22] <apachelogger> Taduro__: sure, close some programs
[16:22] <apachelogger> or tabs in firefox for that matter, because 266 MiB for firefox seems a bit on the heavy side
[16:23] <apachelogger> that is to say there are ~1.2 GiB of RAM *actually* used, the rest is used for cache which means whenver something needs the RAM it will shrink the cache accordingly (i.e. it's not actually used, it's just occupied)
[16:24] <apachelogger> Taduro__: generally speaking though with 2 GiB of RAM I would highly recommend to get yourself a swap partiton
[16:24] <apachelogger> one of 2GiB in size
[16:25] <Taduro__> Ok, thanks..
[16:28] <newbie> anyone knows where the config file is for kdm?
[16:41] <Taduro__> apachelogger: I'm checking my partitions and I already have one 2GiB swap partition
[16:43] <BluesKaj> newbie. why kdm , are you on an older Kubuntu ?
[16:43] <apachelogger> Taduro__: your screenshots disagree
[16:43] <apachelogger> either you turned off swap or it's incorrectly formatted
[16:43] <Taduro__> http://susepaste.org/31487886
[16:44] <Taduro__> or
[16:44] <Taduro__> http://susepaste.org/14533359
[16:44] <kubuntu> can i burn a dvd while in kubuntu 13.04 live-dvd mode
[16:44] <guest234rf43> can i burn a dvd while in kubuntu 13.04 live-dvd mode
[16:44] <guest234rf43> if i take out the disk for a min will k3b work
[16:44] <Taduro__> apachelogger: ok, right click and turned on
[16:45] <guest234rf43> all the way through?
[16:45] <Taduro__> apachelogger: I'm not sure, but. I'm going to check it at sysguard.
[16:45] <guest234rf43> BluesKaj: hi, i think the ati/amd driver didn't install correctly, i can't get startx to work at all now
[16:46] <guest234rf43> BluesKaj: i used --force ... can you assist with getting x back?
[16:46] <Taduro__> apachelogger: Is now working? http://susepaste.org/83206436
[16:48] <Peen> hello\
[16:48] <Peen> hello
[16:48] <apachelogger> Taduro__: looks like it, yes
[16:49] <Taduro__> Ok, thank you very much apachelogger and BluesKaj
[16:50] <Peen> :)
[16:50] <Peen> which languages can we talk here ?
[16:51] <BluesKaj> English only
[16:51] <Peen> Ok
[16:51] <Peen> thnx
[16:52] <BluesKaj> !nl
[17:06] <izanagi> Hello, when kubuntu is loading(kubuntu logo on screen) i can change backlight brightness very easy with FN-F5 and f6. When log in screen appears, changing brightess is almost impossible. I have to press keys multiple times to backlight change to random brightess. Ive tried changing grub acpi setting, but these do not work since i installed amd drivers. Do you know any solutions??
[17:13] <Taduro__> izanagi: same here, never solved. I don't know.
[17:14] <izanagi> Taduro__:  bad thing about linux is that every realease something else is not working. On older kubuntu backlight was ok, now i cant change backlight and i cant turn wifi off
[17:15] <izanagi> Taduro__: my netbook i bit unusual, it have apu cpu, maybe it is source of problems
[17:16] <Taduro__> izanagi: Try sites like askubuntu or superuser... But keep trying here too :/
[17:18] <izanagi> Taduro__: i found no solutions there. One good thing is, that after few tries i get brightess lvl i wanted. Still it is stupid, that so standard functions are not working properly...
[18:03] <Ab3L> Hi. After upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10, i get this error after reinstalling skype: "Segmentation fault (core dumped)". can someone help me? (my graphic card is nvidia gt440)
[18:04] <BluesKaj> Ab3L.  is this a clean install ?
[18:05] <Ab3L> no. i've upgraded from 12.04->12.10->13.04->13.10
[18:05] <Ab3L> i didn't test in the intermediate version
[18:05] <Ab3L> in 12.04 it worked and in 13.10 it doesn't work anymore.
[18:06] <BluesKaj> id this skype from the repos
[18:06] <BluesKaj> is this
[18:09] <Ab3L> BluesKaj: i've got it from deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[18:10] <Ab3L> i've added that repo to have an updated version
[18:13] <BluesKaj> Ab3L. updated versions can somrtimes be bugyg
[18:13] <BluesKaj> err buggy
[18:14] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i hope things improve me for 14.04
[18:14] <eagles0513875> kde is super buggy
[18:14] <Ab3L> so are you suggesting me to uninstall it, remove the repo and retry with the version from the internet site of skype?
[18:15] <BluesKaj> I'm not having any probs so far on 14.04
[18:15] <eagles0513875> Ab3L:
[18:16] <eagles0513875> there is a hidden .skype directory you tried removing that directory and then running skype
[18:16] <eagles0513875> Ab3L: ^
[18:16] <Ab3L> eagles0513875: did it, but it didn't solve the problem
[18:16] <BluesKaj> Ab3L. skype is available in the 13.10 repos
[18:20] <Ab3L> BluesKaj: are you sure? i don't find it in muon
[18:21] <eagles0513875> Ab3L: you need to enable the partner repos
[18:26] <Ab3L> ok. it seems the last version was very very buggy. now it starts, but have still a warning: "Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 14: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated."
[18:27] <Ab3L> here i don't really understand what it means
[18:32] <Ab3L> btw it works great!
[21:01] <JohnDoe_DK> Hello!
[21:03] <JohnDoe_DK> Anybody online?
[21:04] <BluesKaj> JohnDoe_DK. yes , do you have a question?
[21:05] <JohnDoe_DK> Yes, I'm wondering, is it possible to add your google contacts to KAddressBook?
[21:07] <BluesKaj> hmm, dunno JohnDoe_DK  , I haven't used kmail/kontact  since it  segfaulted after a few days of trying to get it to work for me
[21:09] <JohnDoe_DK> It's just because I find the Korganizer rather handy, and it would be nice to be able to add your google contacts to your calendar appointments...
[21:10] <BluesKaj> i'm sure import contacts should work if you export your gmail contacts to an .idif or .vcf file in your home dir, JohnDoe_DK
[21:11] <BluesKaj> then kontact can retrieve the files
[21:12] <JohnDoe_DK> BluesKaj: But then you don't have the sync feature, you still have to update it manually. Not that I get a lot of new contacts...
[21:13] <BluesKaj> JonathanD. is this for work or is it a home pc?
[21:13] <BluesKaj> oops JohnDoe_DK^
[21:13] <JohnDoe_DK> Home PC ;)
[21:14] <Dragnslcr> JohnDoe_DK- if you go to File -> New -> Add Address Book, is Google Contacts listed?
[21:14] <BluesKaj> hmm, well thunderbird fills bill here , as a home user
[21:15] <JohnDoe_DK> OOOPS thats embarrassing :O
[21:15] <dougl> My subwoofer in my asus g75v quit working in my 13.10 install  but works on my 13.04 install according to google its a bug that has no fix... but like I said it works when I boot into 13.04
[21:15] <JohnDoe_DK> Dragnslcr: Thanks alot! feeling like a noob right now...
[21:15] <Dragnslcr> Hehe, no problem
[21:15] <dougl> can someone help me enable my subwoofer?
[21:16] <Dragnslcr> I knew I had done it, I just couldn't remember if it was a separate extension that I had to install
[21:16] <BluesKaj> JohnDoe_DK. nice that kmail works for you , for so many it doesn't
[21:17] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I like KMail better than Thunderbird, but it's been too buggy for me lately
[21:17] <JohnDoe_DK> BluesKaj: Not kmail. Korganizer and KAddressBook. Kmail i a pain in the rear end
[21:17] <BluesKaj> dougl. does your sub show in alsamixer as LFE
[21:18] <JohnDoe_DK> Loving Thunderbird and have been using it for yrs
[21:18] <BluesKaj> heh , that's how much I know ...I thought they were part of kamil :)
[21:18] <BluesKaj> err kmail
[21:19] <JohnDoe_DK> BluesKaj: Well maybe they are... Just not using kmail...
[21:19] <BluesKaj> JohnDoe_DK. ok , understood
[21:20] <JohnDoe_DK> Aww awesome! KAddressbook produces QR codes for you to scan with ur mobile unit
[21:20] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I just noticed that, but I have no idea what they're for
[21:22] <JohnDoe_DK> No, no real use for it hence it's already synced from ur android phone ;)
[21:27] <dougl> BluesKaj, No LFE in alsamixer
[21:27] <BluesKaj> sub?
[21:28] <dougl> notheing
[21:28] <JohnDoe_DK> Dragnslcr: Does Kaddresbook sync back to google?
[21:29] <BluesKaj> dougl. , how many speaker channels ?
[21:29] <BluesKaj> 5.1 or ?
[21:30] <Dragnslcr> JohnDoe_DK- not sure, I haven't tried
[21:30] <dougl> BluesKaj, oh - on my notebook there are 2.1 system
[21:30] <dougl> My subwoofer in my asus g75v quit working in my 13.10 install  but works on my 13.04 install according to google its a bug that has no fix... but like I said it works when I boot into 13.04
[21:40] <JohnDoe_DK> Dragnslcr: It actually does sync back to your google account
[21:42]  * G-Khan test
[21:42] <dougl> BluesKaj, did you see me say 2.1? in a notebook?
[21:43] <BluesKaj> dougl. yes , but I have no clue
[21:43] <dougl> excellent - I am in good company - lol
[21:44] <dougl> bluetooth does not work in 13.04 and the sub does not work in 13.10 but the eyecandy is configured in both so all is good and I love kubuntu!
[21:45] <lordievader> dougl: How is your subwoofer connected? (Is it one of those 5.1 systems where the center speaker shares the jack with the sub?)
[21:46] <dougl> lordievader, My subwoofer in my asus g75v quit working in my 13.10 install  but works on my 13.04 install according to google its a bug that has no fix... but like I said it works when I boot into 13.04
[21:47] <lordievader> dougl: Its built into the laptop?
[21:47] <dougl> lordievader, I thot that would give you a better understanding of my bewilderment
[21:47] <dougl> yes
[21:48] <JohnDoe_DK> dougl: according to this link you are not likely to get this problem fixed: http://www.linlap.com/asus_g75vw
[21:48] <lordievader> dougl: That is strange indeed. Regression happens I'm afraid. Also I have to say that I have never encountered a sub build into a laptop before. So I guess I cannot help you :(
[21:49] <dougl> JohnDoe_DK, agreed
[21:50] <dougl> lordievader, nope just wanted to make sure we were all at the same confusion level... I can wait or dual boot :)
[21:56] <JohnDoe_DK> dougl: this _might_ give you a little help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/136968/how-to-make-the-internal-subwoofer-work-on-an-asus-g73jw
[22:00] <dougl> JohnDoe_DK, hey - thanks... giving it a read now...
[22:01] <JohnDoe_DK> dougl: No Problems :D
[22:02] <JohnDoe_DK> dougl: Please tell us if it works!
[22:04] <NTFS193> For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth [a]in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident [b]within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are witho
[22:04] <NTFS193> ut excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not [c]honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and [d]crawling creatures.
[22:05] <NTFS193> 24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for [e]a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed [f]forever. Amen.
[22:05] <FloodBotK1> NTFS193: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:05] <NTFS193> 26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is [g]unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing [h]indecent acts and receiving in [i]their own persons the due penalty of their error.
[22:05] <NTFS193> 28 And just as they did not see fit [j]to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, [k]haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving
[22:06] <BluesKaj> !op | NTFS193
[22:07] <NTFS193> !ops | For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth [a]in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident [b]within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they ar
[22:07] <NTFS193> e without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not [c]honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and [d]crawling creatures.
[22:07] <NTFS193> 24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for [e]a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed [f]forever. Amen.
[22:07] <FloodBotK1> NTFS193: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:08] <NTFS193> 28 And just as they did not see fit [j]to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, [k]haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving
[22:08] <NTFS193> , unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not o
[22:15] <dougl> wierdest thing sub started to work after I plugged in to ac
[22:16] <JohnDoe_DK> dougl: Omg dude ;)
[22:21] <JohnDoe_DK> Well, im off to dreamland... G'nite
[22:38] <sda> hi all, question, when i mount a external crypt hd thru KDE  mount it with nosuid parameter. Can I modify the paramether how Unity mount disks?
[22:45] <luis__> lkl
[23:22] <goodtime> benn having installing anything ubuntu has to offer on my hp laptop im starting to wonderif i have hardwear issue's now :(
[23:23] <goodtime> inotherwords aolt of messedup installs
[23:23] <goodtime> alot*
[23:23] <goodtime> ubuntu failure
[23:24] <goodtime> kubuntu no graffics i guess
[23:24] <crowell> goodtime: does the livedisk work?
[23:24] <goodtime> yes
[23:24] <crowell> what is the issue when it is installed then?
[23:24] <goodtime> it installs well from a download
[23:25] <goodtime> to a flashdrive
[23:25] <goodtime> im useing kubuntu 13.10
[23:25] <goodtime> startup disk creator is wacked
[23:26] <goodtime> haveing trouble formatting the flasdrive
[23:27] <crowell> from linux or windows?
[23:27] <goodtime> linux
[23:28] <crowell> what are you trying to use to format it?
[23:28] <goodtime> utility disk
[23:29] <crowell> I'm not sure what that is, but you might want to try "mkdosfs -F32 -I /dev/<flashdisk>"
[23:29] <jovando> hello, does anyone know the channel from "melody" ?? it is a france channel simmilar like: #luxus-...
[23:29] <goodtime> hmmm ok ill try that in my terminal
[23:29] <jovando> or i can find it out myself - need just the command to start konversation
[23:29] <crowell> replace <flashdisk> with /dev/sdb /dev/sdc, whatever your disk is
[23:29] <crowell> it must be unmounted too
[23:30] <goodtime> # mkdosfs -F32 -I /dev/<flashdisk
[23:30] <goodtime> bash: flashdisk: No such file or directory
[23:30] <goodtime> hmmmm
[23:30] <crowell> what is the output "df"
[23:31] <goodtime> oot@goodtime-Presario-CQ62-Notebook-PC:~# df
[23:31] <goodtime> Filesystem     1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[23:31] <goodtime> /dev/sda1      238563952 157713408  68732120  70% /
[23:31] <goodtime> udev              882004         4    882000   1% /dev
[23:32] <goodtime> tmpfs             357696       848    356848   1% /run
[23:32] <FloodBotK1> goodtime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:32] <goodtime> none                5120         0      5120   0% /run/lock
[23:32] <goodtime> ooops forgot
[23:33] <valorie> !login
[23:33] <valorie> huh
[23:34] <valorie> !kdm
[23:34] <valorie> !lightdm
[23:34] <valorie> !info lightdm
[23:34] <valorie> pfff
[23:34] <crowell> valorie: are you trying to change your dm from lightdm?
[23:35] <crowell> valorie: if you have kdm installed, you can `dpkg-reconfigure kdm` to make it the default
[23:36] <yofel> to answer #kubuntu-offtopic jovando and the dm question: the manager is set in /etc/X11/default-display-manager with the full path
[23:36] <crowell> O
[23:36] <yofel> or by running what crowell said (less error prone)
[23:36]  * yofel always forgets about that..
[23:36] <valorie> crowell: I was looking for someone else
[23:37] <crowell> ?
[23:38] <valorie> someone who asked in the wrong chan
[23:38] <jovando> yofel: ok, last time i changed it via recovery console
[23:38] <jovando> better: i intalled the lightdm in addition to the kdm
[23:39] <jovando> but afterwards lightdm looks like not so good then kdm
[23:39] <yofel> hm, do you have lightdm-kde-greeter installed?
[23:39] <jovando> i am not very good in linux knowledge
[23:39] <jovando> yes, i thinks so
[23:41] <jovando> yofel: i hope this will help you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6434931/
[23:43] <yofel> jovando: what's "greeter-session" set to in  /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ?
[23:44] <yofel> jovando: you could also try to check the theme in systemsettings -> login screen (lightdm)
[23:45] <jovando> this here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6434959/
[23:46] <yofel> yeah, looks ok. So I guess you're running the default one
[23:46] <jovando> äh, first kdm was default - then i installed lightdm and set it to default
[23:47] <jovando> now i dont need lightdm any more
[23:47] <jovando> and want set kdm to defailt
[23:47] <jovando> default
[23:47] <yofel> for that either run the command from above (dpkg-reconfigure kdm), or uninstalling lightdm would probably work too
[23:52] <jovando> yofel: ok, i dont want to remove a default set display manager
[23:52] <jovando> i try now: dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[23:53] <jovando> yofel: yes thats it!!
[23:54] <jovando> yofel: that was what i was looking for :-)
[23:56] <jovando> yofel: thanks a lot!!! i try the restart now
[23:57]  * yofel forwards the thanks for crowell