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sam113101are you guys always this talkative?01:39
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phdarkxst, you here?02:02
phdarkxst, upgraded to ubuntu 14.04 and still have problems with the HUGE font and cursors and display being detected as 7" instead of 55"02:05
darkxstph, hi02:06
phdarkxst, hi :)02:07
phdarkxst, so yeah still having major issues with staging and HUGE fonts etc. I did an update-manager -d to upgrade to 14.04 and updated to the trusty staging ppa and still got the problems02:08
phany suggestions on how i can debug it some more to see if I can help to find a solution to the problem?02:11
darkxstph, can you paste your X log again02:14
phok hangon02:15
phwhere's it located again :P02:15
phunder .cache - found it02:17
darkxstph, /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:17
phah that one - sorry thought you meant the upstart logs02:17
phdarkxst, http://pastebin.com/fLnGKkep02:19
darkxstph, also run `xdpyinfo | grep -B1 resolution`02:21
phdarkxst, dpi is being set as 40,40 when it should be 110,110 or something higher like that. also is there a way I can try forcing the display size to 55" in the xorg.conf to see if that resolves it?02:21
phdarkxst, interesting that one returns:02:22
ph  dimensions:    1920x1080 pixels (508x286 millimeters)02:22
ph  resolution:    96x96 dots per inch02:22
darkxstis the size there correct?02:22
phgod no02:23
phI will get the actual dimensions for you in mm hangon a tic02:23
phdarkxst, it should be around 1220x710mm02:26
darkxstare you using the default xorg.log? doesnt look like NVIDIA is even detecting a size of your monitor02:27
phdarkxst, yeah that is the one in /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:28
phdarkxst, I can restore the backup I have with the next ppa - then run that command again to see what it returns when it's working properly?02:28
darkxstph, that won't affect anything in the X log02:28
phgranted it shouldn't but the logs are different from the next ppa to the staging ppa. it's working and correct size in the next ppa, and not working and wrong size in the staging ppa02:30
darkxstph, that is probably because display config is in gnome-settings-daemon for -next02:30
darkxstfor staging its moved to mutter02:31
phah ok...02:31
phso what else could be causing it?02:32
darkxstph, cant you paste `xrandr -q`02:33
phhttp://pastebin.com/fKTcnZfP02:34
darkxstph, try forcing DPI in xorg.conf02:36
phdarkxst, I tried that and it doesn't work02:36
phit shows in the log as getting the dpi from xorg.conf but no change in the actual appearance of the fonts and cursors02:37
phdarkxst, that size in xrandr I just ran the 160x90 would correlate to a 7" screen. So where does it get the size of the screen when running xrandr?02:38
darkxstfrom X02:39
phok... bummer, so X is picking it up wrong from where the display itself?02:40
darkxstquite possibly, does the same thing happen with nouveau?02:41
phdarkxst, by the way not sure if this helps but slaf is having the same problem, but he didn't see it right away because he has 2 monitors, and for some reason it gets detected correctly when running 2 monitors, but when he happened to unplug 1 monitor one day he noticed he had the HUGE fonts and cursors problem and his screen was getting detected as 7"02:41
phdarkxst, I believe it does02:42
phdarkxst, you don't happen to have an nvidia setup with 2 monitors?02:43
darkxstyes I do02:44
phdarkxst, well that could be an easy method then if you unplug one and reboot and see if you get the same problem02:44
darkxstph, it seems to be a HDMI bug02:57
phdarkxst, same thing happen with you just now as well?02:57
darkxstnope02:57
ph:(02:57
phdarkxst, that sucks I was hoping it would. I have already logged a bug with it and uploaded the logs when working and the logs after updating to staging but I don't think anythings been done with it03:00
darkxsthttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Display_size_and_DPI03:01
phhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1233603 that's the one i logged and you mentioned filing an upstream bug against mutter?03:02
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1233603 in Ubuntu GNOME "Gnome-Shell 3.10 staging HUGE fonts, cursors, icons" [Medium,Confirmed]03:02
phdarkxst, just going afk for a while - I'll pop back on later03:03
darkxstph, ok, probably the best fix, is to work around it in your xorg.conf03:04
phdarkxst, i'll try it out and see if i can going from that page you linked03:05
darkxstph, the real bug here is that the display is not detected correctly, mutter is just doing what it is told03:11
darkxstph, there is also this, but its quite old, so no idea if  its still relevant http://analogbit.com/fix_nvidia_edid03:13
sam113101so, is it an official ubuntu release?04:16
darkxstsam113101, ubuntu GNOME is an official flavour04:22
sam113101darkxst: cool04:23
sam113101how many are there? ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu gnome04:24
darkxstsam113101, http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives04:33
sam113101darkxst: thanks05:02
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phdarkxst, hey dude - nah I tried everything of that page and while it gets the dpi settings I set nothing changes the display size from the 160mm x 90mm that is being picked up by X06:58
phthe DPI settings themselves seem to have no effect on the actual display size that's being detected. I really think it's the 160mm x 90mm that is causing the huge fonts and cursors06:59
phbut I can't seem to change that anywhere07:00
phdarkxst, I'm going to roll back to next ppa and see what is being detected there when the fonts and cursors are working as they should07:00
phdarkxst, back in a bit07:02
darkxstph, what does fontconfig report dpi as?07:10
darkxstxrdb -query07:11
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phdarkxst, i dunno man it still shows 160mm x 90mm even on next but under display it shows correctly as 55"??!07:27
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phdarkxst, yeah so I have no idea where it's going wrong then! Wherever the Screen Display item in system settings gets its size from is where the problem is I'd say07:34
phdarkxst, any idea where it gets it from under Screen Display?07:35
darkxstph, I don't really know08:06
darkxstyou should be able to override screen size with NoDDC and DisplaySize though08:06
phdarkxst, can you give me the exact config in the monitor section to do that. Because I tried the DisplaySize with no effect08:09
phdarkxst, is it an option "NoDDC" line i need before the DisplaySize line under the monitor section?08:14
darkxstNoDDC probably goes under server section, but not real sure08:31
darkxstph, just google it!08:31
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phdarkxst, ok I found where to put the NoDDC option (under the device section), but in the logs I get "Option "NoDDC" is not used"08:52
darkxstph, sorry I don't know08:53
phbummer :P ok thanks I'll just see what happens with the bug08:54
phdarkxst, also I appear to have no title bar on nautilus with the staging ppa is that normal? and I dont get the window resize cursors appearing when i move to the edge of the nautilus window to try and resize the window08:55
darkxstnaultilus is using the new CSD's08:56
darkxstbut you should get resize cursors08:56
phI just tested i get one on the top only, not on the bottom, corners or sides08:57
phdarkxst, the one on the top that i do get is only 1 pixel width. Is there anyway I can adjust it?08:58
darkxstno idea09:00
darkxstworks fine here, for probably 10+ pixels09:00
phcould that be because of the DPI issues causing that?09:03
darkxstpossibly09:06
ricotzdarkxst, hi, i guess you resolved the mozjs issue?09:30
darkxstricotz, yes, got it sorted, well worked around, but its stupid09:31
ricotzdarkxst, is there any upstream intention to rename the library/pkg-config back to "24.0"?09:31
darkxstricotz, I was unable to get a definitive answer on that, but the general consensus was that the abi must have changed09:32
ricotzdarkxst, ok, since they dont have a proper soname mechanism they need to do it that way which is honestly not how this works09:33
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ricotzchanging the library name is only reasonable needed for API changes not just ABI ones09:34
darkxstright, but it probably won't happen again09:35
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ricotzdarkxst, do we want ship those debug mozjs enabled builds?09:35
darkxstbut its always a case of no guarantees09:35
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darkxstricotz, ship no, but its pretty important for devs09:36
darkxstcurrently chatting with upstream, its an awful mess right now09:37
ricotzdarkxst, hehe, having to patch buildsystems for "nothing" in a bit insane if it gets changed with every release09:37
ricotzalright09:37
ricotzdo i miss any fallouts with the cogl/clutter uploaded?09:38
darkxstricotz, haven't noticed, but I still dealing with crashes every 10mins or so09:38
darkxstcurious why, you havent seen them09:39
ricotzno, it runs quite solid here09:39
ricotz3.11.2+ that is09:39
darkxstsame happens with your packages of testing and staging09:39
ricotz(the gjs/mozjs staging packages)09:39
darkxstGC crash after unlocking09:40
ricotzok09:40
darkxstcan't reproduce under jhbuild however09:40
ricotzso this is your every 10mins problem?09:40
darkxstwith what I presume is the same branch09:40
darkxstricotz, every time I unlock09:41
ricotzok, i thought is crashed regularly with this interval09:41
darkxstits in a VM, so locks very often09:43
ricotzok, i can confirm the unlock crash09:45
darkxstricotz, ok10:12
darkxstjokerdino, hey10:12
jokerdinodarkxst: hey10:12
darkxstjokerdino, would be great if you could take a second pass of saucy bugs an invalidate all the ones that have invalid stacktraces!10:13
darkxstgood work so far with de-duplication btw ;)10:14
jokerdinosure. Are they tagged with apport-failed-retrace?10:14
darkxstsome are, but that doesnt always pick it up10:15
jokerdinoOK. I'll go through them.10:16
darkxstjokerdino, thanks10:16
jokerdino:)10:17
darkxstjokerdino, I created a 14.04 milestone on the ubuntu gnome project, feel free to assign any bugs that need fixing to that!10:18
darkxst(regardless of ppa or archive packages, hopefully gtk update will land, so many of the 3.10 packages can get in)10:19
darkxstwell atleast anything with a bit of heat10:22
darkxstnot particularly interested in one-off bugs10:23
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Organicanarchywould ubuntu be a good option for a 1.6ghz cpu with 2 gb of ram?10:40
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Guest14458i have an problem with the NVidia drivers they are conflicting when installed. I have an Nvidia Quadro NVS290 video card with only 2d support and normally no any problem i use now the opensource driver11:45
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Mel_hi guys15:52
Mel_I just installed ubuntu-gnome, it get stuck on the gnome logo while booting. any idea where to look for some hint?15:53
Mel_the log says "starting [ok]"15:53
Mel_gdm[892]: GdmLocalDisplayFactory: maximum number of X display failures reached: check X server log for errors15:55
Mel_where is the x11log?15:59
tommie-lie/var/log/Xorg.0.log16:00
tommie-lieor other numbers instead of 0 if Xorg tried to restart other displays16:00
Mel_nope. it's not there.. or i woldn't have asked :)16:08
Mel_i could not make any sense of this. i'm reinstalling, but back to xubuntu instead of ubuntu-gnome16:08
tommie-lieif X couldn't even get to write a log file, there's something else seriously wrong with your installation16:10
tommie-liecan't imagine what, though, other than a read-only / due to disk failure16:10
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TaazirHi. I have problem: just installed UbuntuGnome, with Hebrew & English. But, mostly when I changed my keyboard layout to Hebrew - the indicator say "He (Hebrew)". But I still write in English not Hebrew.17:54
TaazirStrange, but some time I can change the layout & write in Hebrew17:54
Taazirany idea?17:54
Taazir?18:26
njalksorry Taazir, i have no experience with this18:57
rZrhi19:52
rZris there a roadmap of upcoming ug LTS?19:52
rZrhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Meetings/Agenda19:53
rZr?19:53
rZrwill it ship g38 ? I guess yes19:58
sam113101HELP23:18
sam113101how do I change the default monitor?23:40

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