[00:00] <pfifo> wolfspy_: im thinking its lack of sata cdrom drivers then, since you can boot other livecds, what is the name of the iso?
[00:00] <duhamel> wildwind: autorun.inf doesn't work in linux. but thankyou.
[00:01] <ikonia> Cheekio: you've got many lines of text, could you please just summerise
[00:01] <zeehero> Alright, hey everyone got a bit of a question if anyone could help or direct me to where it would be best to go.
[00:01] <wolfspy_> pfifo:ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:01] <gordonjcp> !ask | zeehero
[00:01] <zykotick9> ikonia: if Cheekio is on a pi, this is NOT ubuntu.  please don't encourage them.
[00:02] <pfifo> wolfspy_: can you get the 32bit version to work?
[00:02] <ikonia> zykotick9: well, we'll find out when he explains the quesiton
[00:02] <wolfspy_> pfifo: should I try?
[00:02] <Cheekio> ikonia, I'm tryign to use my laptop (ubuntu) to spit out ip addressesd when machines connect to it.
[00:02] <wolfspy_> pfifo: Ill have to burn another cd
[00:02] <ikonia> Cheekio: connects to it ? how can it connect to it without an IP
[00:02] <pfifo> wolfspy_: it has a different kernel with different modules so it will likely work
[00:02] <gordonjcp> Cheekio: install dnsmasq then
[00:03] <Cheekio> Plug a device into the ethernet port
[00:03] <Cheekio> and assign it an IP address
[00:03] <ikonia> Cheekio: setup a dhcp server then
[00:03] <Cheekio> I'm going through the man pages of dnsmasq now
[00:03] <wolfspy_> pfifo: would it work with Ubuntu 12?
[00:03] <ikonia> Cheekio: then the client machine will send out a request when the link is detected.
[00:03] <gordonjcp> Cheekio: be aware that if there are any other DHCP servers on the network, such as your broadband router, installing dnsmasq on your laptop will make things very very unhappy
[00:03] <zeehero> Simple enough - I'm trying to access Gimp 2.8 since I just installed it through the terminal. When I try to use the Unity dock it doesn't seem to have updated the application link for gimp and seems to attempt to load the old (now removed) Gimp 2.6, and using the terminal to access gimp just results in a version of gimpshop I had installed through a deb package and don't know how to remove it - so I'm unsure of how to access Gimp 2.8 in all this
[00:03] <zeehero> mess.
[00:04] <Cheekio> gordonjcp: understood, I'll be careful about that.
[00:04] <Jordan_U> zeehero: What version of Ubuntu are you using, and how did you install Gimp 2.8?
[00:05] <zeehero> Version 12.04, through apt-get install in the terminal
[00:05] <gordonjcp> Cheekio: you may be able to limit it to a particular interface
[00:05] <pfifo> wolfspy_: check your bios settings and see if you can change the cdroms mode from ide to ahci
[00:06] <duhamel> zeehero: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get  update && sudo apt-get autoclean
[00:07] <wolfspy_> pfifo: is that the sata controller working mode?
[00:07] <zeehero> duhamel: what are the differences between upgrade and update - is upgrade for apt-get itself?
[00:07] <pfifo> wolfspy_: yeah
[00:07] <FroggestSpirit> Suspend works the first time when i boot ubuntu and close the lid. then after logging back in after opening the lid, my fan goes silent, and then goes full blast after a minute, and closing the lid doesnt suspend anymore until i reboot
[00:08] <wolfspy_> pfifo: from ahci to compatible?
[00:09] <duhamel> zeehero: update tells the machine to update its archives so it can see what packages it has and if any upgrades are available. upgrade has the machine dowbload and install upgrade packages.
[00:09] <jimgroth> So I want to have access to one folder on my ubuntu server from my windows machine. Is samba they way to go?
[00:09] <wolfspy_> pfifo: compactble says serial ata controller operates in ide mode
[00:10] <pfifo> wolfspy_: it seems you want it on ahci, but if it was there to begin with try the other option once. (dont forget to change it back later on)
[00:10] <zeehero> duhamel, thank you for exmplaining. I'm guessing that autoclean is to sort everything out with the packages after both process?
[00:10] <Hai_Karate> My 13.10 connects to wireless instantly,,, but my 13.10  'command line' install on another partition takes about 4 minutes when running dhclient -v wlan0. It does connect but takes forever. Any ideas?
[00:10] <duhamel> it cleans unneeded packages.
[00:11] <zeehero> duhamel, watching that terminal scroll makes me feel like I probably should have done this a year ago
[00:11] <wolfspy_> pfifo: it worked!
[00:11] <pfifo> wolfspy_: brb, need togoto store
[00:11] <duhamel> zeehero: after that try: sudo apt-get install deborphan && sudo deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get -y remove --purge
[00:11] <wolfspy_> pfifo: OK thanks
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> Hai_Karate, You can run the 13.10 in cli why not just do that?
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> the one with a desktop
[00:12] <duhamel> zeehero: that will clean all orphaned deb packages.
[00:12] <zeehero> Alright
[00:12] <zeehero> What counts as an orphaned deb file?
[00:13] <Hai_Karate> not sure what ya mean
[00:13] <duhamel> hopefully that will help if it's conflicting with old versions.
[00:13] <zykotick9> Hai_Karate: (don't reply to me!) but 1) what are you using to connect in your "command line" install?  N-M, wicd, interfaces?  2) try interfaces.  good luck.
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> Hai_Karate, You can use the 13.10 without the desktop, what is the end goal with having 2 installs one with a desktop one without?
[00:13] <zeehero> Sheesh that's still going, I'll  be back in a bit when I've done those instructions and see if that solves the issue - could be here a while with this upgrade.
[00:14] <tant0c1b0> Is it normal having undeletable unallocated space in the partition table?
[00:14] <FroggestSpirit> Suspend works the first time when i boot ubuntu and close the lid. then after logging back in after opening the lid, my fan goes silent, and then goes full blast after a minute, and closing the lid doesnt suspend anymore until i reboot
[00:14] <Hai_Karate> Tolearn
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> Hai_Karate, I guess I assume the command line install is a cli only am I correct?
[00:14] <tant0c1b0> (I have two ntfs partitions related to Windows 7 and I am now creating 1 ext4 and one swap for gentoo)
[00:14] <Hai_Karate> yes
[00:15] <zeehero> duhamel, thank you for your help
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> Hai_Karate, Ah, to learn, how dare you, ;) not sure of an answer sorry.
[00:15] <Hai_Karate> dhclient wlan0 DOES connect but takes way longer than the 'desktop' version
[00:16] <tant0c1b0> Is it normal having unallocated unavoidable unallocated space when creating an ext4 partition?
[00:16] <Hai_Karate> I've been messing around with it for a week. Its not that big of a deal but was just wondering
[00:17] <duhamel> zeehero: i hope that helps, if nothing else it will free up a little room on your machine.
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> tant0c1b0, Ah between partitions?
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> or at the end of the hd
[00:18] <tant0c1b0> wilee-nilee: I have, starting from the left: ntfs (windows boot), ntfs (windows system), ext4 (gentoo), swap (gentoo swap, and the unallocated space
[00:18]  * zykotick9 notes, or the beginning of hd
[00:18] <monokrome> Does anyone know how to get wifi for the `Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0` in a retina macbook pro working in the Ubuntu installer?
[00:19] <tant0c1b0> wilee-nilee: I don't know why, when creating such partitions (ext4 and swap) I get that space..
[00:19] <zykotick9> !broadcom
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> tant0c1b0, It does happen, my assumption is that that it has to do with the partitioner having to square off a distance that is allowed, and the extra space does not fit that schema.
[00:19] <monokrome> I already know how to use firmware cutter and all, I'm just astonished that the Ubuntu installer wouldn't have drivers for it
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> heh rather vague answer but it's a guess
[00:20] <jianmeng> My ubuntu can't boot after upgrade to 13.10. After display ubuntu logo, screen show fontconfig may not work. Some chinese font can't configure properly.
[00:20] <tant0c1b0> wilee-nilee: ok, I simply apply changes, then ;) thanks for the help
[00:21] <jianmeng> does anyone meet similar problem?
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> tant0c1b0, Yeah you can move the partition size around and get it to work in general.
[00:22] <pfifo> i guess wolfspy's issue is closed
[00:23] <tant0c1b0> wilee-nilee: You mean: extending a 'near' partition to include it?
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> tant0c1b0, Sort of, generally you can't it is already at its limited squared off size per the partitioner's smallest measurements, but you can resize others on the hd to have the one leaving a space be a different size and take up that space. I may be that a cli partitioning method bypasses this. It really comes down to what ever tool your using has a smallest distance of bits measured.
[00:27] <andrerics> Hi! I installed Ubuntu 13.10 along with Windows 8.1 and GRUB is not appearing at initialization. Can you help me?
[00:27] <MiddleRoad> I have Squid installed on my Ubuntu VPS, would I be able to install ruTorrent as well without interference?
[00:28] <jparr> MiddleRoad: probably, but your VPS provider likely won't be very happy with you
[00:28] <MiddleRoad> oh right, I was concerned abotu that. Do you think it'd be a problem if I limited the bandwidth?
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> tant0c1b0, A simpler abstract explanation is you can't measure a atom with a foot long ruler.
[00:29] <pfifo> tant0c1b0: how much unpartitioned space are we talking about here?
[00:29] <pfifo> 8mb
[00:29] <MiddleRoad> jparr: + thanks for your answer!
[00:31] <wildwind> MiddleRoad: it could be a problem if you download/seed something illegal, regardless of bandwidth used
[00:31] <MiddleRoad> oh I see
[00:31] <pfifo> MiddleRoad: jparr my vps host lets me use torrents, after all i did buy the bandwidth
[00:33] <pfifo> dmca violatians arent an issue for my stuff though so could be different for you MiddleRoad
[00:33] <tpw_rules> i'm having a weird problem with removeable storage. I plug in my flash drive, the icon shows up, i click on it, and it tells me i am not authorized to mount it. it didn't do this before i just updated all installed packages
[00:34] <MiddleRoad> Ah right, I wouldn't have a problem with them either
[00:34] <theolaz> Hi
[00:34] <pfifo> tpw_rules: this happended to me when i mounted it as user1, then logged out, logged in as user2, and clicked on my icon. a reboot should fix it if its the same problem.
[00:35] <tpw_rules> okay, i'll try that
[00:35] <utusan> tpw_rules: you might try installing  policykit-desktop-privileges
[00:35] <tpw_rules> well we're rebooting now, let's see what happens
[00:35] <jimgroth> What's the easiest way to share a folder on my ubuntu server 13.04 with my windows 8?
[00:35] <pfifo> MiddleRoad: but rutorrent and squid should not interfere with eachother.
[00:35] <Kuwait> wilee-nilee fix the problem thanks alot ;)
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> Kuwait, Cool, enjoy. ;)
[00:36] <Kuwait> ;)
[00:36] <tpw_rules> jimgroth: right-click, properties, then there should be a sharing tab
[00:36] <pfifo> jimgroth: if you already have httpd installed add a symlink in /var/www
[00:36] <tpw_rules> why would you do that?
[00:37] <jimgroth> tpw_rules, ubuntu server. No GUI.
[00:37] <tpw_rules> oh, du
[00:37]  * tpw_rules runs his server with the desktop OS
[00:37] <tpw_rules> utahcon: that's already installed and at the latest version, it claims
[00:37] <jimgroth> pfifo, I don't understand. What does httpd and symlinks have to do with sharing folders?
[00:38] <tpw_rules> he's saying set it up as an http server like the apache directory list
[00:38] <pfifo> jimgroth: its only one direction though, if you need to read and write files from win8, then youll need samba
[00:39] <Danato> how would i execute a file in a different location? such as /home/username/
[00:39] <jimgroth> Ah. Sorry, was unclear.
[00:39] <jimgroth> Yes, I do need read/write.
[00:39] <pfifo> samba
[00:39] <Danato> or /home/username/Desktop
[00:39] <jimgroth> Thanks. And crap. :P
[00:39] <bekks> Danato: Like that. /home/username/Desktop/shiny.script
[00:39] <jimgroth> Haven't gotten my brain wrapped around samba yet.
[00:39] <jimgroth> Got any tips for good guides on samba?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> !samba
[00:39] <tpw_rules> blarg, it's saying i don't ahve any permission to read things off the flash drive
[00:40] <tant0c1b0> pfifo:  ~500MB, solved, though
[00:40] <pfifo> jimgroth: realize smbpasswd and passwd are 2 different programs.
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> jimgroth, check the bots info if you have not already.
[00:40] <jimgroth> I'll read those guides.
[00:40] <jimgroth> pfifo, Thanks. I know but it still confuses me. :P
[00:40] <Danato> bekks: thanks
[00:41] <ResQue> what does the noexe paramter do, also where can i find a list of avalible boot paramaters?
[00:41] <pfifo> jimgroth: the best solutuion here is to simply format win 8 and install ubuntu there as well
[00:41] <jimgroth> Yea, wish I could do that.
[00:41] <tpw_rules> pfifo: rebooting hasn't helped
[00:41] <zykotick9> ResQue: i'd bet you mean noexec ;)
[00:42] <ResQue> zykotick9: yes i do
[00:42] <jimgroth> I do video editing and I don't have time to learn something new on linux. I also doubt there is something that can replace after effects on linux.
[00:42] <pfifo> ResQue: noexec prevents files from being executed
[00:42] <pfifo> tpw_rules: what filesystem is on the usbstick?
[00:43] <tpw_rules> pfifo: hfs+
[00:43] <pfifo> tpw_rules: when you plug it in does it mount?
[00:43] <tpw_rules> no
[00:43] <tpw_rules> if i open a window in nautilus, i can see the volume in it
[00:43] <tpw_rules> but i have to go to the command line to sudo mount
[00:44] <zeehero> I've upgraded apt-get, updated, installed deborphan, ran it, uninstalled Gimp and there is STILL a gimp program left on my machine - how do I uninstall this program so I can properly install the right version/type?
[00:44] <pfifo> tpw_rules: ahh, the sudo mount part is preventing you from accessing it as a normal user
[00:44] <tpw_rules> oh
[00:44] <utusan> install  policykit-desktop-privileges
[00:44] <tpw_rules> i tried, it's already installed and at the latest version
[00:44] <zykotick9> ResQue: fyi, noexec means, nothing on that partition will be executable...
[00:46] <utusan> you might try running nautilus as root
[00:46] <tpw_rules> why would that be a good idea?
[00:46] <bekks> running nautilus as root is a bad idea.
[00:46] <zykotick9> "try running nautilus as root" <- HORRIBLE advise...
[00:46] <bekks> It isnt necessary at all.
[00:46] <pfifo> tpw_rules: or you could mount using the proper options to allow user access
[00:47] <tpw_rules> i'm not concerned about that at this point, i want it to mount automatically when plugged in/clicked on
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> zeehero, Gimp is removed with a apt-get or from another package manager deborphan is designed for orphans and not really needed.
[00:48] <airstrike> hi. how can i remove the annoying messages ubuntu shows me whenever i ssh into it?
[00:49] <zeehero> wilee-nilee, I've tried removing it with apt-get and had no luck, the version I'm trying to remove was installed with a deb file through the software center, but I'm unsure how to uninstall it.
[00:49] <bekks> airstrike: Depends on the messages.
[00:49] <zykotick9> airstrike: what is "the annoying messages"?
[00:49] <dannymichel> I can't seem to find out where to change the middle of the progress bar.. any ideas? http://goo.gl/ksQH0J
[00:49] <pfifo> zeehero: `sudo dpkg --purge <package name>'
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> zeehero, You want to be careful removing apps as well they may have dependencies that are crucial. Is this a gimp install from a ppa, it is in the stock install.
[00:50] <zeehero> wilee-nilee, I'm afraid I don't understand the distinction
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> zeehero, I this a canonical ubuntu install?
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> Is*
[00:51] <airstrike> bekks, zykotick9: cloud support and juju advertisement, particularly
[00:51] <zeehero> wilee-nilee, I don't believe so, it was a deb file I downloaded from the gimpshop website since I couldn't find it in the software center at the time
[00:51] <airstrike> ubuntu advantage cloud guest, even
[00:51] <ikonia> once again blindly installing extenral packages causes problems.
[00:51] <zykotick9> airstrike: really, ubuntu puts adversitments in it ssh message... wow!
[00:51] <ikonia> zykotick9: pretty sure it doesn't
[00:51] <ikonia> more likley a 3rd party bastardized install
[00:51] <zykotick9> ikonia: i wouldn't "think" so.
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> zeehero, Can you post the output from lsb_release -a
[00:52] <airstrike> it's an amazon EC2 instance
[00:52] <zeehero> No LSB modules are available.
[00:52] <zeehero> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[00:52] <zeehero> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[00:52] <zeehero> Release:	12.04
[00:52] <zeehero> Codename:	precise
[00:52] <FloodBot1> zeehero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:52] <zykotick9> ikonia: see above, all is answered ;)
[00:52] <zeehero> right, didn't realize how this software handled the return character, give me a moment
[00:53] <zeehero> http://pastebin.com/mV5RuEkb
[00:53] <pfifo> wilee-nilee: use my trick to prevent floods, 'what is the output of lsb_release -sc'
[00:53] <kxtwo> Hey guys, not sure if this is the right place but was hoping some one could help me.  I need to connect to an IBM mainframe to reboot a virtual machine I use for class.  The problem is I am home and to connect to the machine I need to connect from school.  My teacher said that I need to establish a VPN tunnel via SSL.xxx.edu.   But I have no idea how to do this?
[00:53] <ikonia> kxtwo: are you using ubuntu ?
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> zeehero, Okay gimp was installed already in the stock install, another external install is a second one, probably another version. So you removed what with deborphan?
[00:54] <kxtwo> ikonia, yes
[00:54] <ikonia> kxtwo: so your question is "how do I connect to a vpn from an ubuntu client" ?
[00:54] <kxtwo> ikonia, I went to the ubuntu support pages but they tell you how to set up a tunnel between two machines you are root to but that does not work here.
[00:54] <airstrike> zykotick9: i'm not sure i follow
[00:54] <pfifo> ikonia: i bet your good at algebra
[00:54] <ikonia> !vpn | kxtwo
[00:54] <ikonia> pfifo: ?
[00:55] <zeehero> wilee-nilee, looks like it just handled a few things related to the globalmenu
[00:55] <kxtwo> he's good at something
[00:55] <pfifo> ikonia: simplifying problems
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> zeehero, I think you will need a more experienced user here, sorry.
[00:55] <kxtwo> yah this doesnt help at all
[00:55] <ikonia> kxtwo: why doesn't it help ?
[00:56] <zeehero> unfortunate
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> zeehero, It's not a huge issue, but you should get the best help. ;)
[00:56] <alexturner> Hey all - just tried installing Ubuntu on a Powermac G5 (ppc) a few times and after install I'm booting straight into busy box with the error "gave up waiting for root device". Getting an alert "/dev/disk/by-uuid/xxx does not exist" Any ideas
[00:56] <alexturner> I've tried different HDD's, SATA and Firewire
[00:56] <zeehero> I honestly wish I knew more about the architecture of how ubuntu handles things, but I never quite know how to find the term for what I'm doing.
[00:57] <pfifo> zeehero: can you pastebin the output of 'dpkg -l | grep gimp'
[00:57] <zykotick9> alexturner: try !=mac, and i'm sure you'll be fine...
[00:57] <alexturner> zykotick9: what do you mean?
[00:58] <zeehero> pfifo, http://pastebin.com/3eqYNnuq
[00:58] <alexturner> zykotick9: Telling me not to install on a max?
[00:58] <alexturner> *mac
[00:58] <airstrike> so, ideas on how to remove these messages?
[00:58] <ikonia> airstrike: probably in motd or issue file
[00:59] <ikonia> airstrike: look at the sshd_config for the banner file it's using
[00:59] <pfifo> zeehero: run this 'sudo dpkg -P gimp gimp-data gimp-help-common gimp-help-en gimpshop libgimp2.0'
[01:01] <airstrike> ikonia: /etc/sshd/sshd_config doesn't specify any banners; the line is commented out.
[01:01] <ikonia> airstrike: ok, so it will be issue or motd
[01:01] <airstrike> /etc/motd only has 'HI LOL', which i added
[01:01] <zeehero> alright finally gimpshop is gone, thank you pfifo
[01:01] <zykotick9> ikonia: don't forget issue.net
[01:01] <pfifo> zeehero: not yet
[01:02] <Shinobi> After attempting to hibernate, I can only boot by loading a previous kernel. LibCrypt is having issues. How do I go about fixing this?
[01:02] <zeehero> pfifo, alright
[01:02] <airstrike> /etc/issue = Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l, and /etc/issue.net = Ubuntu 13.10
[01:02] <pfifo> zeehero now you need to edit sources.list, delete any lines that refer to the PPA that you added for this gimpshop, then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:02] <airstrike> beats me.
[01:03] <kxtwo> yah this is doing nothing, I did it through the network manager and it never connects
[01:04] <pfifo> zeehero: sorry the file is /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:04] <ikonia> kxtwo: you need to know what type of vpn you're connecting to, and make sure your client settings match
[01:04] <basil> Hi guys, is anyone able to assist with troubleshooting a connection to Ubuntu 12.04 from Win Xp via x11vnc?
[01:05] <induz> what is Ubuntu one and could it ne possible to collect my contacts from iPhone to Ubuntu machine
[01:06] <ikonia> induz: you've obviously heard of "ubuntu one" so maybe a basic internet search would give you a high level idea of what it is
[01:07] <pfifo> !one | induz
[01:07] <induz> is it free
[01:08] <kxtwo> ok apparently there is a web based way to do this through the schools site but it is failing due to java.  bleh
[01:08] <airstrike> ok, found it, ikonia, zykotick9. i had to comment the lines containing pam_motd in /etc/pam.d/login and /etc/pam.d/sshd
[01:08] <pfifo> induz: yes, for basic services, there are paid services too
[01:08] <zykotick9> ikonia: i notice, it wasn't you, that sent the !ubuntuone factoid, but directing people to #ubuntuone is probably the best idea for people asking about it.
[01:10] <induz> i just need for transferring my iphone contacts to a PC
[01:10] <induz> i dont have itunes...iphone3 is no more active
[01:11] <zeehero> alright, couldn't find any lines for it in that file, the unity dock can't find gimp anymore, and updating it happening now - am I clear to install from apt-get the latest version of this software without fear of conflicts between other versions?
[01:12] <pfifo> zeehero: once you install gimp, check the output of 'dpkg -l | grep gimp' to see if its coming from a ppa
[01:20] <intrader> Anyone, I am having a problem with a blank screen (pure black) after resumes. I have found many reports and 'solved' bugs - but no solution. I installed 12.04.3 clean without loading updates while installing. Noticed the problem after the first normal update was updated.
[01:21] <xentity1x> Hi, anyone have experience with installing mupen64 emulator? It's saying I have unmet dependencies
[01:21] <zykotick9> xentity1x: i hope you really mean mupen64plus
[01:22] <Richhh> just tried to shutdown lubuntu for the first time, got   killing all remaining processes [fail] sda5_crypt (busy) [fail]   mount: / is busy      reboot: System halted
[01:22] <xentity1x> zykotick9, ha i do
[01:22] <xentity1x> zykotick9, here's the output http://pastebin.com/RwVf9rDe
[01:22] <zykotick9> xentity1x: sorry, i don't go to pastebin.com...
[01:23] <zykotick9> !paste | xentity1x
[01:23] <mathfreak_> What's wrong with pastebin.com?
[01:23] <xentity1x> zykotick9, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6429567/
[01:24] <zykotick9> mathfreak_: pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads.  Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/
[01:24] <zykotick9> mathfreak_: that's dpkg's pastebin.com factoid
[01:24] <zeehero> interesting, considering the flood thing told me to use pastebin
[01:24] <mathfreak_> zykotick9: Ah I see. Thanks for the info.
[01:24] <induz> i have OneUbuntu account now...what app to download to get the iPhone contacts
[01:24] <xentity1x> zykotick9, i added the ppa but there's a package by the same name when i search packages.ubuntu.com. So I don't know where it's installing from.
[01:25] <zykotick9> xentity1x: if you use PPAs I have NO idea.  good luck.
[01:25] <Richhh> im guessing its ok and i can just switch it off?
[01:25] <Richhh> and use shutdown -h next time
[01:26] <Richhh> or -P
[01:26] <xentity1x> zykotick9, by which method do you have knowledge of?
[01:26] <zykotick9> xentity1x: on ubuntu - i don't.  sorry.  best of luck.
[01:27] <zeehero> alright, finally got the right version of GImp now, thank you all very much for your help
[01:27] <pfifo> use fpaste.org just to show the fedora guys what a real OS looks like
[01:28] <pfifo> Richhh: i want to say this stems from not having your fstab and cryptab setup properly
[01:29] <Richhh> ok
[01:30] <zykotick9> xentity1x: sidenote - i have 2 actual N64 controllers connected to my non-free box, with mupen64plus it's f'n awesome ;)  best of luck.
[01:31] <Crimson_Rogue> hello. I'm running ubuntu 13.10. I'm having an issue with ubuntu one. it's hanging on "Getting information, please wait..." are there any fixes/patches for this?
[01:32] <zykotick9> Crimson_Rogue: you "might" want to try #ubuntuone
[01:32] <pfifo> Crimson_Rogue: #ubuntuone for ubuntu one support
[01:32] <xentity1x> zykotick9, thanks. I removed the ppa and it seems to install fine from the universe repository. Is htere any gui that you use?
[01:33] <Crimson_Rogue> thx zykotick9 and pfifo
[01:33] <zykotick9> xentity1x: to be honest, i don't use a GUI, as mupen is being called from advancemenu in my case...
[01:35]  * pfifo 's roommate found a n64 in the trash last month, it is even better than an emulator
[01:35] <zykotick9> xentity1x: FYI i use starfox (doing a loop) to test if the joystick is working correctly, usually isn't not.  you typically need to do an export for sdl beforehand...
[01:39] <basil> thanks guys....try again later
[01:39] <daftykins> basil - twins!
[01:41] <melow01> I'm looking for the source code to strlen in c. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[01:45] <pfifo> melow01: that would be part of libc
[01:46] <melow01> pfifo, thanks. does that live somewhere in the Ubuntu OS? /lib/ ?
[01:49] <pfifo> melow01: yes libc.so.6 is the binary file on my 64bit system /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 It should be part of string.h but (im not sure of this) it is likely written in assembly so the source code might be useless to you
[01:49] <melow01> pfifo, oh ok.. thanks again
[01:50] <bekks> pfifo: Technically, that nonsense :)
[01:50] <pfifo> bekks: not you again
[01:50] <bekks> pfifo: A compiled library is never "part of" a header. It is written in C, not in assembler.
[01:51] <bekks> pfifo: I am not sorry that its always me correcting your errors ;)
[01:51] <pinPoint> so anyone install apache 2.4.6 from ppa?
[01:51] <pfifo> well someone has to
[01:51] <melow01> pfifo, so are files appended with an asterisk, executable?
[01:52] <pfifo> libc is written in C, ok, like i said, not sure of this
[01:52] <bekks> melow01: Files having the permission to be executed are executable.
[01:52] <trism> melow01: in any case: apt-get source eglibc; it is in the string/strlen.c subdir
[01:52] <bekks> !find string.h
[01:52] <bekks> uh.
[01:52] <melow01> bekks, ok
[01:53] <lukas> am i allowed to base a distro off of ubuntu then reditrubutite it
[01:53] <reisio> lukas: yup
[01:53] <moppy> melow01, http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/
[01:53] <reisio> lukas: Ubuntu itself is based off Debian
[01:54] <lukas> oh good
[01:54] <melow01> trism, moppy thanks
[01:54] <lukas> thanks reisio
[01:54]  * pfifo is going to start making mistakes on purpose just to keep bekks busy
[01:54] <reisio> lukas: there are some things canonical owns, like the name 'ubuntu', probably, but you can do almost anything with almost anything else
[01:54] <moppy> melow01, curious why you want the source for strlen.
[01:55] <lukas> oh ok
[01:55] <reisio> lukas: and moreover, you won't get sued for giving free software away, people get sued for selling things, and only after they refuse to stop
[01:55] <melow01> moppy, on any normal day I wouldn't.... its homework for my C/C++ course :o)
[01:55] <moppy> melow01, interesting. i think it's a depreciated function too :)
[01:55] <Iseituser> I am having a problem with Ubuntu 13.10, does this happen very often?      I went from straight to Ubuntu 13.10 to Edbuntu 13.10, and all I did is install some aplications.      Did this happen anyone?      I installed some eductional apps and was wondering if this going to back the to original version after I get all this out?
[01:56] <moppy> melow01, although that might be in C++ not C
[01:56] <pfifo> melow01: go for extra credit and provide the source for strlen from newlib too
[01:56] <bekks> pfifo: I am starting to correct your statements randomly, deciding to correct or incorrect them ;)
[01:57] <melow01> moppy, hmmm... ok. I'm not too advanced yet
[01:57] <melow01> pfifo, My assignment is to make a program just like strlen. beyond that, I'm a little lost
[01:58] <Iseituser> Hello
[01:58] <pfifo> melow01: ohh, well, looking at the source for strlen is going to throw you off. You much better off rolling your own
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> bekks, It's not the IRC without a passive aggressive rush in correcting. ;)
[01:59] <bekks> wilee-nilee: :D
[01:59] <trism> melow01: definitely, there is a much easier way to do strlen than they do in libc, which looks at a whole bunch of bytes at once
[01:59] <melow01> pfifo, that's good to know. We just finished pointers and I'm still scratching my head a bit.
[01:59] <olf-folks> what would be a good ubuntu friendly channel for networking?
[02:00] <moppy> melow01: int strlen (const char * buffer) {int x=0; while (buffer[x] != '\0') ++x; return x;} ... very approximately
[02:00] <melow01> moppy, groovy, thanks
[02:00] <pfifo> olf-folks: networing as in tcp/ip is here, networking as in meeting people in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:01] <joossee> guys where does virt keep its logs?
[02:01] <pfifo> moppy: make it inline too
[02:01] <olf-folks> while monitoring my network a strange ip keeps poping up and i want to know what it is pfifo
[02:02] <pfifo> !details | olf-folks
[02:02] <pfifo> olf-folks: probablly just the NSA nothing to worry about
[02:02] <joossee> olf-folks, not really a ubuntu problem...
[02:03] <olf-folks> the ip addr is 239.255.255.250 not public apparently, and definatly not private?
[02:04] <tim`> olf-folks: is that a multicast block?
[02:04] <joossee> olf-folks, thats a broadcast address likely for SSDP
[02:04] <pfifo> olf-folks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Service_Discovery_Protocol
[02:05]  * joossee despite what youve heard in the press, Google is your friend olf-folks , sorta.
[02:06] <pfifo> google / NSA same difference
[02:06] <joossee> question: if i compile a program using "make" if i delete the executable it creates it is gonne permanently and for good?
[02:07] <olf-folks> ahh okay so it is on local network then, how to get a hard addr from it?
[02:07] <rypervenche> joossee: The executable, yes, but you could recreate it using the source code again.
[02:07] <pfifo> joossee: it could be recovered with special tools
[02:07] <joossee> rypervenche, rpger that ty
[02:07] <crocket> Is it possible to set LANG to "en_US.utf8" in ubuntu?
[02:08] <joossee> rypervenche, do you know where virt or the VM manager you showed me the other day keeps its logs?
[02:08] <Wolfspy_> Hi
[02:08] <reisio> suppah
[02:08] <pfifo> Wolfspy_: welcome back
[02:08] <Wolfspy_> Hi
[02:08] <joossee> wow only 133 updates for windows server 2003.. thats impressive almost.
[02:09] <Wolfspy_> I installed it but this shows up when I turn it on http://m.imgur.com/a/O8kAW
[02:10] <olf-folks> exit
[02:10] <pfifo> Wolfspy_: set your bios settings back to achi
[02:10] <joossee> hey whats the best N64 emu for ubuntu?
[02:10] <Wolfspy_> Ok
[02:11] <Wolfspy_> I think the installation changed the boot order in the bios
[02:11] <pfifo> Wolfspy_: no, not possible
[02:11] <tpw_rules> so how can i mount my flash drive and make it work?
[02:12] <Wolfspy_> Well something did
[02:12] <reisio> joossee: mupen, IIRC
[02:12] <reisio> tpw_rules: work?
[02:12] <tpw_rules> it won't automatically mount and i can't do it because i don't have perms
[02:13] <Wolfspy_> Nope, same thing happens after I change it back. :/
[02:13] <melow01> moppy, btw, if strlen is deprecated, how would one go about determining the length of a string in c? a for loop to count the characters?
[02:13] <moppy> melow01, i dont know if it is or not .. and C++ isnt C
[02:14] <melow01> moppy, ok
[02:14] <filinux> tpw ask someone who has permission to mount it for you.
[02:15] <w0lfspy> Is this a commen issue?
[02:15] <tpw_rules> filinux: i do but i have to use sudo
[02:15] <tpw_rules> this never happened before i upgraded
[02:15] <pfifo> melow01: there is a better way to handle strings, with support for unicode and all kinds of other stuff. but that is likely not part of your introductory to C
[02:16] <melow01> pfifo, ok
[02:17] <pfifo> w0lfspy: I think you might be missing a bootloader, and that being the case your computer is trying the cdrom first, no media so it fails, then tries the harddrive, with no boot loader it fails, and lastly tries network.
[02:17] <filinux> what have you tried to mount it?
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> tpw_rules, This usb has what partition type?
[02:17] <tpw_rules> hfs+
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> tpw_rules, really hfs+ apple?
[02:18] <tpw_rules> yeh
[02:18] <filinux> ohh
[02:18] <tpw_rules> it's an external hard drive with that
[02:18] <melow01> pfifo, how long did you study C before you became comfortable with it?
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> tpw_rules, This an apple computer in general?
[02:18] <tpw_rules> no
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> tpw_rules, Do you one ever?
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> use*
[02:19] <tpw_rules> i have an hfs+ external hard drive with some data from my computer that needs to go on to my server with ubuntu
[02:19] <tpw_rules> yes, it's my main computer
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> tpw_rules, So the not mounting is a HD, not a flash?
[02:20] <tpw_rules> yes
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> usb*
[02:20] <tpw_rules> it shouldn't matter though, it's attached via usb
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> tpw_rules, Not sure never messed with that partition type.
[02:20] <pfifo> melow01: id say about 2 years, I got very comfortable with it once I learned SDL and could make some simple graphical apps. once I could dway some simple shapes and stuff I was able to apply all the math stuff I had learned from basic programming. Yeah id say as soon as you learn an API youll get much more comfortable.
[02:21] <pfifo> draw*
[02:21] <filinux> All the HFS stuff I have mounted is via samba
[02:22] <melow01> pfifo, thanks, that's good to know. I did my BSEE but I'm going back to learn programming now. I talked to lots of friends and many people said to learn c. its the most important language.
[02:23] <tpw_rules> random point: i feel like taking the clinical apporach to learning a language is wrong, both computer and human
[02:23] <melow01> pfifo, Simple DirectMedia Layer (SDL) ?
[02:23] <pfifo> melow01: yes it is good to know, once you have a good grip on it, switch to python, its so easy yet so powerful
[02:23] <pfifo> melow01: yes simple direct media
[02:23] <melow01> ya, I keep hearing about Python from everyone and their grandmas... haha
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> tpw_rules, Many ways to learn, Heh this has been clinically proven.
[02:24] <w0lfspy> pfifo: can I manually install a boot loader?
[02:25] <pfifo> melow01: java is cool too, android apps and all, but its kinda slow. If your into web programming php has c like syntax and is my choice for web
[02:25] <joossee> does apt-get update and add repo update synaptic as well?
[02:25] <pfifo> w0lfspy: how exactly did you install ubuntu? Did you manually partition, side by side or replace windows?
[02:25] <Auctus> 13.10 with 1gb of ram, good idea? Or use lubuntu?
[02:25] <joossee> Auctus, lubuntu rocks
[02:25] <w0lfspy> pfifo: I replaced windows
[02:26] <melow01> pfifo, right... I studied DSP and I'm looking to get back into for audio purposes so everyone says to learn C, and maybe an assembly language too. FML.
[02:26] <Auctus> joossee, yeah it does but its not as pretty, and im setting this computer up for someone else
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> Auctus, Or xubuntu, really depends on how hard you plan to use it.
[02:26] <Auctus> gonna play some games on it, with software opengl...
[02:26] <melow01> pfifo, C & Assembly are the only ways to do audio without any significant delays
[02:26] <melow01> pfifo, video too
[02:27] <pfifo> w0lfspy: this is how to install a bootloader https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[02:28]  * Spudster_away is set as away
[02:28]  * Spudster is no longer away : Gone for 25 secs
[02:28] <reisio> Spudster: nobody cares
[02:28] <pfifo> melow01: you can put asembly directly into a function in C which is great for DSP
[02:29] <melow01> pfifo, oh wow, i had no idea. trip out.
[02:29] <pfifo> !away > Spudster
[02:30] <joossee> can anyone tell me if this repo actually exists or is good? "https://launchpad.net/~sven-eckelmann/+archive/ppa-mupen64plus"
[02:36] <pfifo> joossee: mupen64plus is available in the repos
[02:37] <joossee> pfifo, ya but no front end? I'm trying to install the version here: https://bitbucket.org/auria/wxmupen64plus/wiki/Home
[02:37] <Nach0z> muppet 64 plus
[03:03] <paulohora> hi there, good night
[03:06] <pfifo> not many support requests this hour on a saturday night
[03:08] <joossee> pfifo, where does virt and kvm keep its logs!?!?!?!
[03:08] <raghavendra> failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/compiz/ppa/ubuntu/dists/price/main/binary-i386/packages 404 not found  error in ubuntu 12.04 lts
[03:09] <InFlames> anyone know an irc network/channel to get help with deluge bt client?
[03:09] <InFlames> figured this isn't the right spot
[03:09] <raghavendra> any one help to fix the error failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/compiz/ppa/ubuntu/dists/price/main/binary-i386/packages 404 not found  error in ubuntu 12.04 lts
[03:10] <InFlames> raghavendra, you need the ppa for compiz for 12.04?
[03:10] <reisio> InFlames: if you're using Ubuntu, here will suffice, for the moment
[03:10] <reisio> InFlames: or you could try /msg alis list *deluge*
[03:11] <raghavendra> I am new to ubuntu how can I get the ppa for compiz for 12.04
[03:11] <InFlames> raghavendra, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager#Ubuntu_12.04
[03:11] <xangua> raghavendra: compiz is already in ubuntu repositories
[03:11] <HiddenDjinn> raghavendra, price is a typo
[03:12] <HiddenDjinn> raghavendra, it should read precise in your sources.list
[03:12] <seven_> .back
[03:12] <esde> https://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys#How_weak.3F is this a concern in 12.04.3?
[03:12] <InFlames> oh there is a #deluge channel ;x
[03:13] <InFlames> i couldn't tell via google, should have just looked at the channel list
[03:13] <esde> does ssh-keygen generate using /dev/urandom?
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> raghavendra, Have you used a compiz ppa for compiz versions on the desktop?
[03:14] <InFlames> esde, ssh-keygen -R hostname [-f known_hosts_file]. ssh-keygen -U reader [-f input_keyfile]. SSH_USE_STRONG_RNG. The reseeding of the OpenSSL random generator is usually done. from /dev/urandom.
[03:14] <esde> ty
[03:15] <InFlames> man ssh-keygen has more details
[03:15] <InFlames> esde, have to use SSH_USE_STRONG_RNG
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> raghavendra, last release covered in that ppa was maverick, you might want to run ppa-purge on it. Tons of compiz scripts on the web, and a whole thread at the ubuntu forums with thousands of posts.
[03:16] <pfifo> joossee: i dont know, but when your running the VM you can get a list of files its using with the program lsof
[03:17] <InFlames> no helping coming from #deluge, does anyone know how to fix deluge bt client when it can't load magnet links?
[03:17] <InFlames> i remove/installed it and --reinstall'd it, no dice
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, Right click the magnet link-open with and navigate to deluge in /user/bin or sbin I forget
[03:18] <InFlames> i'll try that
[03:18] <InFlames> i believe it's associated, just not loading the details
[03:19] <InFlames> will try that first though
[03:19] <paulohora> hi there, guys. i did a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 in a dell inspiron 14 n4050 laptop and i'm having some trouble with the keyboard. everything is working except for the shift key.
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, /user/bin/deluge
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, when it is set to open it pops up an okay.
[03:19] <InFlames> yea, it used to work :[
[03:20] <pfifo> paulohora: atleast its not stuck on :)
[03:21] <seven_> boas nya
[03:21] <jparr> ls
[03:21] <jparr> well thats embarrasing
[03:22] <InFlames> wilee-nilee, deluge's icon shakes, but nothing loads, and it says "no incoming connections!"
[03:23] <paulohora> pfifo, but i cannot type dollar sign for example nor asterisk or ampersand
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, no incoming connection would be associated with at the least something being called out for.
[03:24] <InFlames> i thought that as well
[03:24] <InFlames> so you're saying that's normal with...no incoming connections...
[03:24] <paulohora> anyone know how to solve this / dammit... it was a question mark
[03:24] <InFlames> oh, also when i hit the plus, or go to file -> add torrent, nothing happens
[03:25] <wilee-nilee>  InFlames Not every p2p is a legit or even safe resource.
[03:25] <InFlames> i know that
[03:25] <InFlames> but i can't even dl from arch linux's website
[03:25] <InFlames> i figured i'd go test it with a legit torrent and magnet link
[03:26] <InFlames> i should try a .torrent actually, i haven't
[03:26] <wilee-nilee>  InFlames Your description is a bit confusing to me, the way I read it is nothing at all shows up in deluge, when it seems something is there just no links are available at the moment for it.
[03:27] <InFlames> yea, basically i click the magnet link link, and deluge shakes, then nothing
[03:27] <InFlames> no files loaded, no queue, nothing
[03:27] <InFlames> woah, ok weird development
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, Take a screenshot of deluge and imagebin it. Never sen mine shake.
[03:27] <InFlames> the icon in the launcher shakes
[03:28] <InFlames> i clicked the arch magnet link, it shook as usual, no output, then i downloaded the torrent and opened it with deluge, deluge tells me "you cannot add the same torrent twice"
[03:28] <azio_m> why ubuntu is not asking me to install the nvidia driver anymore with 13.10?
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, Can you see now wjy this is a confusing description, about 50 possible desktops available, at least 6 are canonical, not all have anything shaking.
[03:29] <InFlames> oh sorry
[03:29] <InFlames> unity, stock
[03:29] <InFlames> 13.04
[03:29] <InFlames> deluge 1.3.6
[03:29] <DrGrov> Hello hello
[03:30] <nbastin> anyone know where to find the kernel headers package for 3.2.46 that was originally in 12.04 but appears to not exist anymore?
[03:30] <InFlames> does that help narrow it down for you? i can still provide a screenshot, happy to
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, A screenshot would help, than I would know for sure if anything has been loaded for deluge to call to.
[03:31] <DrGrov> I just had a power shortage, did not have the chance to close my computer. It just closed itself. Running 13.10 64-bit. Should I need to check my hard drives?
[03:31] <InFlames> ok
[03:34] <esde> i used ssh-keygen but cannot copy id using ssh-copy-id http://paste.ubuntu.com/6429961/
[03:37] <InFlames> wilee-nilee, http://imgur.com/5NmaWEk it tinted it weird
[03:40] <wolfspy> finally...
[03:40] <reisio> indeed
[03:40] <RPG-Master> OK, I did something awhile back and now its bugging me and I'm not sure how to fix it.
[03:40] <wolfspy> that was much harder then it should have been...
[03:40] <RPG-Master> explanation incoming
[03:40] <Ticked> anyone know why that when I update topside I says directory not found
[03:41] <reisio> Ticked: 'cause it didn't find a directory it was looking for
[03:41] <xangua> !find topside
[03:41] <Ticked> With the tripwire -m u
[03:41] <reisio> some of these are gimmies
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, It does look like nothing is loaded, rather strange, to be honest I have not had a problem with deluge since I was a beginner years ago so not really sure of an answer
[03:41] <Ticked> Reisio how do I create that directory or can i
[03:42] <RPG-Master> I installed something called qtsixa in my efforts of getting my PS3 controller to work perfectly in Linux. Well, it worked, but now several key functions are mapped to the controller and the analog stick moves my cursor. I tried uninstalling the app but that didn't revert anything.
[03:42] <InFlames> wilee-nilee, tell me about it deluge has done right by me for ages, this cropped up today, it was working fine 2 days ago
[03:43] <RPG-Master> At this point, I just want to remove the mouse mapping to the analog stick.
[03:43] <pfifo> wolfspy: everything go ok?
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, Try deleting ~/.config/deluge so it makes a new config, close first before deleting.
[03:44] <InFlames> damn, you know, it could be that!
[03:44] <InFlames> i forgot, i had a problem and botched my .config
[03:44] <InFlames> i thought i fixed most of the directory though
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> that will do it
[03:44] <InFlames> little stuff crept up for a few days
[03:44] <InFlames> yea, i lagged out and dragged the folder to the trash
[03:44] <InFlames> and when i restored it, the applications were still running
[03:44] <InFlames> it did a number on it
[03:45] <wolfgang_> Can I install debians Ice weasle?
[03:45] <reisio> wolfgang_: yup
[03:45] <reisio> but why
[03:45] <Ticked> I installed tripwire I done what the Linux page said to set it up but when I give the command tripwire -m u it says ###error file could not be opens. File name /var/tripwire/reportHOSTNAME-20131116-203629.twr no such file or directory exiting. What is going on how do I get it right
[03:45] <InFlames> i had ice weasel on 12.04
[03:46]  * InFlames hugs wilee-nilee, fixed, thank you sir
[03:46] <wolfgang_> reisio, Because I like it, how do I install it? Im using elementry and a lot of websites dont like the default browser.
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, Cool, enjoy. ;)
[03:46] <InFlames> :]
[03:46] <reisio> wolfgang_: what's the default browser? Epiphany?
[03:46] <reisio> or what'd they rename it to, 'web'? :p
[03:46] <InFlames> now to fix my lvm snapshot problems, lol
[03:46] <wolfgang_> reisio, midori
[03:47] <reisio> wolfgang_: you should be able to install firefox or iceweasel from the repos
[03:47] <InFlames> i might watch some videos on it, i read a ton, and i kinda get it, but some stuff just isn't working right
[03:47] <wolfgang_> reisio, so just sudo apt-get install iceweasle?
[03:47] <laiyilong> I‘m chinese
[03:48] <reisio> wolfgang_: probably, or firefox
[03:48] <reisio> laiyilong: neat
[03:48] <wolfgang_> reisio, E: Unable to locate package iceweasle
[03:48] <InFlames> yea, that works
[03:48] <InFlames> apt just told me "firefox is already installed"
[03:48] <Ticked> Wolfgang if you want to install iceweasle yes
[03:48] <reisio> wolfgang_: you typing it like that?
[03:48] <InFlames> so you might need to use another ppa?
[03:48] <wolfgang_> InFlames, what ppa?
[03:49] <wolfgang_> Reisio, Btw im the one with the mic problems, dont know if you remember me, but I am just using an external mic and it works fine.
[03:49] <InFlames> ppa:dirk-computer42/c42-backport
[03:49] <InFlames> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/10/install-iceweasel-ppa-ubuntu-1304/
[03:49] <wolfgang_> InFlames, Whats the command?
[03:50] <wolfgang_> sudo apt-get add ppa:dirk-computer42/c42-backport ?
[03:50] <InFlames> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:dirk-computer42/c42-backport
[03:51] <wolfgang_> E: Unable to locate package iceweasle
[03:51] <wolfgang_> Whats the package name?
[03:51] <reisio> wolfgang_: neat
[03:51] <InFlames> checkout that link
[03:52] <InFlames> you have to update your repository before you can search it
[03:52] <wolfgang_> InFlames, Ok.
[03:52] <wolfgang_> Inflames, Its installing thank you
[03:52] <InFlames> yw
[03:54] <k4rp> Can someone help me out, I'm having issues with my UEFI BIOS. My mouse is stuck in the top right corner, and repeatedly resets it's position.
[03:54] <reisio> with UEFI* :)
[03:55] <reisio> mouse position not likely related to that, however
[03:55] <InFlames> heh reisio
[03:55] <reisio> k4rp: do you have a touchscreen?
[03:55] <k4rp> No I do not
[03:56] <Ticked>  I installed tripwire I done what the Linux page said to set it up but when I give the command tripwire -m u it says ###error file could not be opens. File name /var/tripwire/reportHOSTNAME-20131116-203629.twr no such file or directory exiting. What is going on
[03:56] <reisio> k4rp: trackpad?
[03:56] <k4rp> Nope, I'm on a desktop.
[03:56] <k4rp> I'm using a compaq keyboard with a microsoft intelli mouse.
[03:57] <moondog> wolfgang_: iceweasel not iceweasle
[03:57] <trusktr> Hey, the docs say that wubi.exe is only available with 12.04 LTS, not 13.10.... but wubi.exe is in the 13.10 iso.
[03:57] <trusktr> (32 bt)
[03:57] <trusktr> (32 bit*)
[03:58] <reisio> trusktr: paradox!
[03:58] <InFlames> lol
[03:59] <JoshuaP> Using 13.10 amd64, and i have a launcherbar problem
[04:04] <Jebus> I finally fixed my issue
[04:04] <wolfgang_> moondog, Its ok I have it installed now
[04:05] <Jebus> wilee-nilee, I finally fixed the issue
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Cool good job. ;)
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, heh I forget what it was though.
[04:09] <yeisibeth> hello
[04:11] <pfifo> wilee-nilee: lol
[04:12] <yeisibeth> hello
[04:12] <Jebus> wilee-nilee, the red notice for the update manager, some how the Cdrom check box was checked
[04:13] <trusktr> Hey, what's the direct link to download wubi.exe?
[04:13] <yeisibeth> hi
[04:15] <xangua> !hi | yeisibeth
[04:16] <Filcon> hi guy, this link is wubi.exe:http://ishare.iask.sina.com.cn/download/explain.php?fileid=8212849
[04:17] <Jebus> wilee-nilee, I owe you an apology for taking up your time earlier
[04:17] <Jebus> wilee-nilee, I am sorry
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Ah I remember now, no biggie, it is not easy for any of us, don't worry about it. ;)
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> well most of us hehe
[04:19] <Jebus> wilee-nilee, :) I am going to study up more on Ubuntu before I do anything else. Thank you so much for earlier.
[04:21] <pfifo> I usually add a diversion for /usr/bin/update-manager and then symlink it to /bin/true i never get bothered by ubuntu wanting me to update
[04:22] <trusktr> ok, nvm i found it. So, what's the "installation size" option when instaling with wubi??
[04:23] <pfifo> trusktr: how much hard drive space are you giving it
[04:24] <trusktr> pfifo, THe whole hard drive.
[04:24] <trusktr> E:
[04:24] <trusktr> Where's the option to just use all the space?
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Cool, it takes time, I only know so much and it has taken 1000's of posts on the ubuntu forums and tons of time here helping and watching others a googling like a madman, all while working on a dual bachelors degree not related and now grad school, I'm a bit obsessed with it even though it's only a hobby really.
[04:24] <trusktr> I've selected E;\ in the first field.
[04:24] <Jebus> pfifo, sorry for leaving earlier my dad needed help fixing his car
[04:24] <trusktr> THe maximum size it shows is 30GB... but E: is 74GB.
[04:24] <trusktr> o_O
[04:25] <pfifo> trusktr: you dont need that much, 6Gb is plenty for ubuntu
[04:26] <trusktr> pfifo, and then.... will it use the remaining space for my home folder or something?
[04:26] <trusktr> It's not clear.
[04:26] <Jebus> wilee-nilee, pfifo was the other one to help me right I can't remember
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, They are extremely helpful yes.
[04:27] <pfifo> trusktr: no it will use 6gb for eveything.
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> viva pfifo hehe
[04:27] <Jebus> You both helped me so much and I thank you both :)
[04:27] <chadmandoo> s
[04:27] <chadmandoo> Hey
[04:28] <Jebus> Well goodnight everyone
[04:28] <pfifo> trusktr: if you want a more advanced setup then wubi isnt for you. wubi is more fore testing out the water
[04:29] <wolfgang_> trusktr, Wubi is bad, it installs it into your windows folder, and windows files systems are bad, its not a good idea.
[04:30] <trusktr> pfifo, well what I already have is a partitioned disk, (C: and E:). How does Ubuntu work... will it autmatically allow one to view and access windows files (Windows is on C:)?
[04:30] <trusktr> wolfgang_, But I'm not choosing C:, I'm choosing a blank partition E:.
[04:30] <trusktr> WHat happens then?
[04:31] <chadmandoo> Hey is expect still supported and popular shell?
[04:31] <pfifo> trusktr: if you have a disk your willing to devote to ubuntu then just install ubuntu on it. Wubi is nice if you dont have an extra disk and cant partition.
[04:32] <wolfgang_> trusktr, Well, wubi just isnt a good idea all together, just use a live disc, choose something else, make sure E: is ext 4 if not delete it and make another from your now unallocated data thats ext 4 set it to /. Set the boot option to unallocated data.
[04:32] <wolfgang_> trusktr, Thats exactley how I did it when I used ubuntu.
[04:32] <pfifo> trusktr: wubi installs are slow as well, installing directly will speed things up greatly
[04:33] <wolfgang_> trusktr, Wubi is really just for if you can't figure out how to install it the right way.
[04:34] <wolfgang_> trusktr, They actually discontinued wubi.
[04:34] <pfifo> trusktr: you can access windows data from ubuntu, but windows cant access ubuntu's data. However if yu format ext2, there are drivers for windows you can install to access the ubuntu data (but thats not really needed, just store your movies and music on your windows drive)
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> E sounds like a 5th partition is this a W8 computer trusktr?
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> er or maybe 3rd
[04:37] <pfifo> wilee-nilee: E sounds like 2nd partition to me, C for the first D for the cdrom E for the second (A and B for floppy)
[04:37] <yeisibeth> hello
[04:38] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, Could be I just wonder if a msdos that it might have 4 primaries is all.
[04:38] <pfifo> wilee-nilee: sounds like he has 2 disks, each with one partition
[04:39] <pfifo> which implies winXP or earlier
[04:39] <xmetal> back
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, Cool you know what's up more than I do in general, just concerned with a HD made dynamic by accident is all.
[04:39] <xmetal> i almost tried wubi on my other pc, but the hardware was too iffy to really try installing ubuntu on it
[04:39] <genii> !wubi
[04:41] <pfifo> windows needs to adopt zfs so that everyon can be happy
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> hehe gpt is half way there
[04:43] <pfifo> im going to bed
[04:43] <yeisibeth> hello
[04:43] <varunendra> pfifo, most ext drivers allow read/write access to ext4 as well, even if the name is "ext2fsd" ;)
[04:44] <Hwkiller> does steam on linux use packagekit to fetch deps, or does it still rely on hacky scripts?
[04:45] <Hwkiller> err.. this was the wrong irc
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, They let you loose from the #ubuntuforums eh. ;)
[04:46] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, :P
[04:48] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, I've set xchat to join both #ubuntu and #ubuntuforums simultaneously, although I stay more active here (when I am ;) )
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, he, good choice you are a great help with wireless problems here.
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> heh
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> and other areas of course
[04:49] <varunendra> Thanks for the compliments, although I know most of them are lies :D
[04:49] <varunendra> "True Lies" !!
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, I lie only to make others feel better. ;)
[04:50] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, It's a Win XP computer
[04:50] <varunendra> lol !!
[04:50] <trusktr> K, so I downloaded the 13.10.
[04:50] <trusktr> hoefully it boots.
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> generally, ;)
[04:50] <wolfgang_> truscktr, GOod luck
[04:50] <trusktr> wolfgang_, Thanks!
[04:51] <trusktr> :)
[04:51] <wolfgang_> truscktr, I believe you can download xchat in the live disc
[04:51] <wolfgang_> truscktr, So if you need help.
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Cool, I was just concerned you were aware of the limits in amounts of primary partitions and or an extended with logicals inside on any single HD.
[04:54] <Humean> Hi, I've got weird-ass sounds coming out of my speakers that go away only when I mute
[04:54] <Humean> and all my audio is messed up and glitchy
[04:54] <jony> hiii
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> Humean, It's not talking to you is it. ;)
[04:55] <jony> i cant save my screen resolution
[04:55] <Humean> wilee-nilee, I sure hope not
[04:55] <FuuqUmist> maybe it is just static feedback or something
[04:55] <TickleKate> Hello, I recently updated my Ubuntu 13.10, and the update was interupted. Ever since both browsers Chromium and Firefox crash a few seconds after opening.
[04:55] <xmetal> those are the voices in your head, not ubuntu
[04:55] <Humean> FuuqUmist, no, it's not
[04:55] <jony> it resets after restarting
[04:55] <Humean> it's pulseaudio fuckery
[04:56] <xmetal> i'd open up the updater or package manager and "retry" the updates to let it finsh what it couldn't before, TickleKate
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> TickleKate, run these two commands to make sure the updates finished sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install
[04:56] <TickleKate> The Updates say it is up to date.
[04:57] <Humean> anyone have any ideas?
[04:58] <TickleKate> Ran the commands, everything was already updated. wilee-nilee
[04:58] <bravo_> hhmm
[04:59] <xmetal> maybe (if there is one) a (just say for Firefox) Firefox "update" via the package manager would help
[04:59] <xmetal> <~~guessing / "reaching at straws"
[05:00] <TickleKate> I'll try
[05:00] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, Oh sweet. Yeah, There will only be two partitions (one for win/ one for ubuntu) so I think it should be fine right?
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> TickleKate, Open ff and hit help-restart with addons disabled if you can and see if that does anything.
[05:01] <varunendra> TickleKate, since both FF and chromium are affected, I'd suspect a common plugin, like flash or Java. If you can get them up for long enough, try disabling all the extensions/plugins and see if it helps pin pointing the culprit
[05:01] <eaq> swap
[05:01] <xmetal> true @ varu
[05:01] <eaq> partition
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, No boot partition for the windows?
[05:01] <xmetal> since both are, it could be a plugin that applies to both
[05:01] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, What do you mean? If I will remove it?
[05:01] <xmetal> or a plugin that needs "updating"
[05:02] <trusktr> Well, hopefully I can have a way to choose to boot either OS, otherwise I'll just get rid of XP .:D
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, No don;t remove, windows just generally has a boot partition besides the mian OS partition. If you are on the live cd run sudo blkid and pastebin the info.
[05:03] <CADBOT> Hi all. What's the better AMD driver these days?
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, sorry sudo fdisk -l and pastbin it.
[05:04] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, oh thanks! Will do.
[05:04] <trusktr> k
[05:05] <trusktr> hmmmm.... It's been on the Ubuntu load screen with the animated white/orange dots for at least 5 minutes.
[05:05] <trusktr> Is it trying to load everything into memory?
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, This a dvd?
[05:06] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, I believe it's just a regular CD.
[05:06] <trusktr> It barely fit.
[05:06] <trusktr> Would it error out if there was a problem?
[05:07] <CADBOT> Or would the AMD question be better asked in another channel?
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Ah thats why I asked if a dvd. It can take longer to boot a disc than a flash usb.
[05:08] <varunendra> CADBOT, I know of only two AMD/ATI drivers - open source (radeon) and proprietary (fglrx). Which one will work better depends on your card.
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> CADBOT, Better is a subjective, it would be helpful to post your graphic hardware info in that question.
[05:08] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, wow. much longer I guess.
[05:09] <CADBOT> Radeon HD 7970 not running in crossfire
[05:09] <CADBOT> I can give CPU info if that's important
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> CADBOT, Probably not unless it is really old, just in general with driver issues it helps the helpers to know the hardware, out of my expertise area however.
[05:12] <CADBOT> It's a pretty modern CPU, so it shouldn't matter in this case XD
[05:12] <CADBOT> So, open source or prop driver?
[05:12] <CADBOT> Back when I was on nvidia it was a little more clear cut of an answer
[05:14] <varunendra> CADBOT, not my field of expertise either, but unless you have already installed fglrx, you should be on the open source 'radeon' driver currently. So if it is not satisfactory, you may try fglrx.
[05:14] <dannymichel> Are there any issues with Z-ram? Why isnt it a default thing?
[05:14] <varunendra> CADBOT, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:15] <varunendra> CADBOT, for a detailed info of your card and current driver - "lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga"
[05:17] <CADBOT> varunendra, Thanks for the info, but I'm looking for opinions on which driver performs better, not installation stuff
[05:19] <varunendra> CADBOT, like been said already, it depends, and there is probably no way to find this out logically, only people experienced with a particular card can tell you which one it works better with.
[05:19] <varunendra> CADBOT, is there a problem with the current driver?
[05:21] <CADBOT> Not really yet, but I'd like the better performing one up front
[05:21] <CADBOT> In other words, neither is clearly the better one, as is the case with the Nvida drivers?
[05:22] <invapid> anyone know how I can get a gcc binary? preferably statically compiled
[05:22] <invapid> g++ binary would be fine as well
[05:22] <varunendra> CADBOT, if 3d acceleration is fine, and there is no overheating problem, it is usually better to stick with the open source one (radeon). From the experience of others of course..
[05:22] <invapid> basically trying to compile a program, where I can't use apt-get
[05:22] <invapid> and have no compilers
[05:23] <CADBOT> Thanks!
[05:23] <varunendra> welcome :)
[05:23] <varunendra> invapid, you mean like build-essential? Or exactly build-essential?
[05:23] <spence> what would be the best usb wifi dongle that supports ap/monitor mode? (north america)
[05:24]  * xmetal thinks "if it ain't broke .." 
[05:25] <invapid> varunendra: I think that would work
[05:25] <invapid> varunendra: is there a way to get a pre-compiled version?
[05:26] <invapid> varunendra: thanks, I think I found it
[05:26] <varunendra> invapid, I'd be curious to know what you found :)
[05:26] <gr33n7007h> spence, Alfa 036h realtek chipset or alfa 036nh atheros chipset
[05:26] <invapid> varunendra: under "Download build-essential" they have the .deb files
[05:27] <invapid> varunendra: pretty sure I can install it from that
[05:27] <varunendra> invapid, it should have dependencies as well..
[05:28] <varunendra> which you'll have to download separately, then install them all at once with "dpkg -i *" or in correct order if installing individually, invapid
[05:28] <invapid> ok - sounds good
[05:29] <chris901> are there any programmers in here?
[05:29] <varunendra> invapid, does this computer have no internet connection? Updated ever?
[05:34] <kaixa> hai all
[05:35] <kaixa> help
[05:35] <carbon_monoxide> Hi! I have download Ubuntu Server LTS 12.04.3 image. I use dd command to make bootable thumb drive. However, every time I try to use it to perform basic install, it freezes at the locale selection page. I was just choosing to use 'English'. I didn't try choose 'C'.
[05:35] <kaixa> quit
[05:36] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, It's still loading. o_O
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> carbon_monoxide, Not sure many here will know exactly what "choose 'C'." is here.
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Should not be, you can check the md5sum of the iso, or maybe ot was burned to fast.
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | trusktr
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Do you have a usb to try?
[05:38] <varunendra> trusktr, apart from the downloaded ISO, you should also check your CD for defects.
[05:38] <xmetal> i think "choose c" means they didn't over-write the windows parititon which they know as "C: "
[05:38] <xmetal> (i am guessing though"
[05:38] <xmetal> ) *
[05:39] <carbon_monoxide> I tried to download the image and use other thumb drive, but got the same outcome. I have tried to use the 'disk check', but it always freezes at some point. Not only installation. I have did the same thing to install Debian on the same machine. Not problem at all.
[05:40] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: Sorry about my bad English! I don't understand what you mean.
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> carbon_monoxide, Not sure but have you checked that the server iso is dd friendly I know the net install is not, maybe try a usb loader to a partition? Or check the sum.
[05:40] <xmetal> i'd (if in windows) try www.pendrivelinux.com and see if that YUMI (I have used it on a number of distros) can make a working usb
[05:41] <carbon_monoxide> I got the Ubuntu Server ISO from the official page. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[05:41] <xmetal> hmm
[05:41] <xmetal> !Yumi
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> carbon_monoxide, You might try the #ubuntu-server channel if we find no answer here.
[05:42] <xmetal> (cant remember if there is a command for that
[05:42] <xmetal> !usb
[05:42] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: And Canonical is interesting. They don't show the checksum on the webpage.
[05:43] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: Ahh! I didn't know there is an ubuntu-server channel
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> carbon_monoxide, http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS
[05:44] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: Tons of thank!
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[05:44] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: The checksum is perfect.
[05:45] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: Comparing with my download
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> carbon_monoxide, I helped a user yesterday that was doing a dd with a good iso, and discovered a problem with the usb, so really it is a variable chase in the end.
[05:47] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: I have suspected it was my thumb drive's problem. Therefore, I have used another thumb drive to try. Same outcome.
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> carbon_monoxide, sure, not really an area that all I can do is suggest options to try, I don't use logs to find problems in general, so I am probably not your best help.
[05:49] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: You did a great help already. At least I'm sure the downloaded ISO is perfect.
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> carbon_monoxide, I would try a loader to a partition if it were me like unetbootin, or one of many.
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> I just don't ever use dd is all
[05:54] <varunendra> carbon_monoxide, can you try the installation directly from the ISO on a virtual machine?
[05:55] <carbon_monoxide> varunendra: Ahh! Right. I can do that on the machine which downloaded the ISO.
[05:55] <DoYouKnow> I am noticing a bug in ubuntu
[05:55] <varunendra> carbon_monoxide, if that succeeds, you can clone the installation with clonezilla, then restore the image on the desired partition. Dirty, but works
[05:56] <DoYouKnow> it's either a bug in ubuntu or the server I'm connecting to is throttling me
[05:56] <DoYouKnow> but I am unable to execute several network commands curl, wget in rapid succession
[05:56] <DoYouKnow> how do I troubleshoot this issue? it's with a particular very large script
[05:57] <DoYouKnow> what kinds of ftp throttling are available? are they likely employed?
[06:00] <Puddingfork> Anyone using an IRC bouncer / proxy?
[06:00] <Puddingfork> Thinking of setting one up at home
[06:01] <Puddingfork> Not really sure what to use though...
[06:01] <sanaa> hello
[06:02] <winegoddess> anyone know where i can get linux support right now?
[06:02] <Puddingfork> What do you need winegoddess?
[06:02] <varunendra> winegoddess, here if it is ubuntu
[06:02] <wilee-nilee> winegoddess, ##linux
[06:02] <genii> If your linux is Ubuntu, then here
[06:02] <winegoddess> hi Puddingfork
[06:02] <winegoddess> i only have cpanel access - i don't know which flavor it is
[06:03] <Puddingfork> What's the issue?
[06:03] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, I dd'ed the iso to usb but it doesn't boot.
[06:03] <trusktr> Dos it support non-UEFI?
[06:03] <winegoddess> a public_hmtl was removed. i had done a backup earlier today using scp - and I'm trying to restore
[06:03] <winegoddess> but it seems there was a symbolic link in the mix
[06:04] <sanaa> i have a question
[06:04] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Doe snot boot meaning from changing just the bios?
[06:04] <sanaa> please answare
[06:04] <winegoddess> i only have cpanel access. i did have ssh. someone moved my stuff over without asking then moved things about.
[06:04] <winegoddess> long story.
[06:04] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, well apparently it's set to boot in this order: external drives, cd rom, hard disk.
[06:05] <winegoddess> trying to get someone to help as the backup had a symbolic link and now i think i may be screwed
[06:05] <Puddingfork> winegoddess: If I was you I would post on the cpanel support forums
[06:05] <Puddingfork> You might get better help there
[06:05] <winegoddess> okay i will try thank you
[06:05] <Puddingfork> np
[06:05] <winegoddess> #cpanel
[06:06] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, There is a per-session boot menu outside the bios, my shows with a f12 prompt as if I was trying to get to the bios which is a f2 prompt here.
[06:06] <Puddingfork> For that kind of issue I think forums will be more useful
[06:07] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, hmmm.... someone locked this bios with a password. guess I gotta try and reset it somehow.
[06:07] <trusktr> I wonder if trying 12.04 instead of 13.10 will make a difference.
[06:07] <trusktr> This cXP comp is really old.
[06:08] <trusktr> Win XP*
[06:08] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, I'm talking about a boot menu the bios has nothing to do with.
[06:08] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, mine is esc key to change boot order.
[06:08] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, It may not even boot a usb if old enough.
[06:09] <SchrodingersScat> wilee-nilee: plop helps with that
[06:09] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, So esc brings up a boot menu with those choices yo mentioned?
[06:09] <trusktr> yeah
[06:09] <trusktr> and hard drive seems to be last
[06:09] <trusktr> and it indeed booted the CD.
[06:09] <trusktr> But just not the USB.
[06:10] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Try everyone they get mixed up at times, the usb may show as a cd.
[06:10] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, That's what I can't specify. It's only the boot order... then to change it I have to enter BIOS setup, then it asks for a password.
[06:11] <trusktr> I saw online on resetting it by taking out the cmos battey.
[06:11] <trusktr> battery.
[06:11] <trusktr> I'm gonna try that.
[06:11] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, THat menu does not let you move the choice with the arrow keys?
[06:11] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, apparently this one.
[06:11] <trusktr> seems like it only shows it
[06:11] <trusktr> let me try random keys
[06:11] <trusktr> hehe
[06:12] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, The arrow up and down should control it.
[06:13] <trusktr> oh well. pressed enter on "removable devices", but it went to Win XP.
[06:13] <trusktr> So I think it's not booting.
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, You were able to check the sum of the ISO?
[06:14] <trusktr> not yet. let me try.
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> trusktr,What ISO did you download, link?
[06:14] <jmgk> hi all
[06:14] <jmgk> :)
[06:15] <lucaone> saluti a tutti
[06:15] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Ubuntu should not fit on a cd generally now a days, it did yours though, just trying to work through variables is all.
[06:15] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, I went to ubuntu.com, download>desktop>oh... oops, I just tried the 64 bit image, but the machine is 32bit.
[06:15] <trusktr> xD
[06:15] <trusktr> But yeah, that big orange button to download.
[06:16] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Heh, so 64 bit on 32bit computer are we on the buton there?
[06:17] <trusktr> yeah, I had downloaded the 64 bit one for a different machine earlier... I forgot about that.
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, It happens no biggie.
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[06:17] <trusktr> hehe
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, YOu want 12.04?
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Whatever release you want there are pages for torrent or http downloads, I can link you up if you want.
[06:19] <Carbon_Rink> qq.. how do i get rid of duplicates sources.. i have done an apt-get update a few times and rebooted and ran again? any other idea. I am a noob
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> Carbon_Rink, This a duplicate notification in the updates?
[06:20] <Carbon_Rink> yes
[06:20] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, I'm getting 32bit 13.10. :D
[06:20] <trusktr> It's not too long. only 30 min. XD
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> Carbon_Rink, either in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[06:21] <Carbon_Rink> just del?
[06:21] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, if needed. http://releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/
[06:21] <trusktr>  sweet. Thanks1
[06:21] <trusktr> !
[06:22] <wilee-nilee> Carbon_Rink, You can open the software sources and untick the duplicates
[06:24] <Carbon_Rink> can i get a quick how too please?
[06:24] <evanvarvell> how too you do?
[06:24] <Carbon_Rink> open the software sources
[06:25] <evanvarvell> go to system settings?
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> Carbon_Rink, you can get to softwrae sources from the edit in the ubuntu software center
[06:25] <evanvarvell> administration
[06:25] <evanvarvell> software sources?
[06:26] <Carbon_Rink> i got it.. thanks gents
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> evanvarvell, help if you can, but don;t confuse help going on.
[06:30] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, IN about 15 min I will be gone for awhile doing a nightly job so if you ping me that's what's up
[06:31] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, FOr sure. Thanks for the help!
[06:31] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[06:36] <binasco> hi all, I nedd some help for alocate disk space to ubuntu on virtualbox
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> binasco, Have you filled up what space you have?
[06:37] <wolfgang_> I installed elementary os today, and when I open steam games I get this error: This application requires either the GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, or the GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1 + GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt3 + GL_AGNGLE_texture_compression_dxt5 OpenGL extensions. Please install S3TC texture support
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> wolfgang_, elementaryOS is not supported here.
[06:38] <binasco> wilee-nilee: yes
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> binasco, The Vbox build?
[06:38] <wolfgang_> wilee-nilee, Its ubuntu 12.04 based, and no one is in there irc
[06:38] <wolfgang_> wilee-nilee, So i can here
[06:39] <wilee-nilee> wolfgang_, I understand but it is not supported everyone here will tell you the same it is just a channel policy.
[06:39] <kostkon> !elementary
[06:39] <kostkon> :/
[06:39] <binasco> yes, i create a virtualbox with 8Gb disk space, and now I need more space.. my OS is Mac Mavericks
[06:39] <wolfgang_> wilee-nilee, then pretend Im using ubuntu 12.04 and help me for that, so I think I am missing a driver
[06:40] <oste> hello - I am trying to deploy via capistrano which needs to create directories in the /var/www folder
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> binasco, I believe you can take the vdi image and insert it in a new bigger partition, but if know one helps, you can try #vbox
[06:40] <oste> I am getting permission denied
[06:40] <Carbon_Rink> binasco, - i am pretty sure that osx maverics clean install is biger than 8 gig
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> wolfgang_, I have to go to work is all.
[06:40] <wolfgang_> wilee-nilee, ok, then go to work.
[06:41] <binasco> wilee-nilee:  i run this command VBoxManage modifyhd "/Users/fernandobinasco/VirtualBox VMs/php/php.vdi" --resize 40000
[06:41] <oste> how can I get it so ubuntu can create directories in /var/www without using sudo
[06:41] <binasco> but ubuntu dont understant I have more space
[06:41] <wilee-nilee> binasco, I have to go to work so others will have to help you.
[06:42] <binasco> wilee-nilee: ok, thanks
[06:44] <wolfgang_> How do i update My graphics card drivers?
[06:47] <justanotheruser> Please give me a list of packages needed for a complete xampp
[06:49] <wolfgang_> How do i update My graphics card drivers?
[06:50] <sam113101> guys
[06:50] <sam113101> I think I broke my libraries
[06:51] <sam113101> unfortunately
[06:51] <sam113101> /usr/bin/sublime-text: line 3: 10719 Floating point exception(core dumped) /opt/sublime_text_2/sublime_text --class=sublime-text-2 "$@"
[06:51] <sam113101> don't know why I'd get that
[06:51] <wolfgang_> Is updating graphics drivers that hard?
[06:51] <sam113101> it was working fine before and I didn't update it
[06:52] <sam113101> wolfgang_: no
[06:52] <wolfgang_> sm113101, Than can you help me?
[06:53] <sam113101> wolfgang_: just update your entire system, if you're using free drivers they're going to get updated
[06:53] <wolfgang_> sam113101, I think I need an extra one, I have updated, Becuase Im missing some openGL texture or something.
[06:54] <wolfgang_> sam113101, This application requires either the GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, or the GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1 + GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt3 + GL_AGNGLE_texture_compression_dxt5 OpenGL extensions. Please install S3TC texture support.
[06:54] <sam113101> wolfgang_: what about you tell me your real problem and not what you think it might be
[06:54] <wolfgang_> sam113101, I have already stated that error
[06:54] <wolfgang_> sam113101, When I try and open steam games.
[06:54] <sam113101> what's the application?
[06:55] <genii> sam113101: His real problem is that he doesn't want to seek help in the channel for the distribution he's actually using, #elementary
[06:55] <wolfgang_> genii, Its ubuntu12.04 based, its essentially the same thing and no one helps in there support
[06:56] <genii> wolfgang_: It is still the policy of this channel that we do not support derivatives, however you may feel about it.
[06:57] <binasco> Hi, I created virtualbox running ubuntu with 8GB of space for development environment but now appears to me the following error in mysql "mysql error the partition with / var / lib / mysql is too full".
[06:57] <binasco> Now I need to allocate more space to my virtual machine I ran this command on my mac "VBoxManage modifyhd" / Users / fernandobinasco / VirtualBox VMs / php / php.vdi "- resize 40000" but I think ubuntu does not recognize what has changed
[06:57] <spitboxer> So, anyone know, is there something like xorg-edgers ppa for 13.10?
[06:57] <binasco> screenshot http://postimg.org/image/4keflaiw7/
[06:58] <genii> spitboxer: Yes, the xorg-edgers has Saucy repos in it.
[06:58] <spitboxer> oh it does? I checked the other day and it didn't seem to
[06:58] <sam113101> wolfgang_: have you tried setting force_s3tc_enable=true before running the game?
[07:08] <ripthejacker> I have an adsl connection and a 3g dongle.Can use both at the same time?
[07:08] <ripthejacker> If yes then how?
[07:10] <b0xa> erm
[07:10] <b0xa> 2 different network connections
[07:10] <b0xa> so technically you could use them at the same time
[07:10] <b0xa> but kinda pointless seeing adsl would be faster and have better latency
[07:11] <binasco> Hi, I created virtualbox running ubuntu with 8GB of space for development environment but now appears to me the following error in mysql "mysql error the partition with / var / lib / mysql is too full".
[07:11] <binasco> Now I need to allocate more space to my virtual machine I ran this command on my mac "VBoxManage modifyhd" / Users / fernandobinasco / VirtualBox VMs / php / php.vdi "- resize 40000" but I think ubuntu does not recognize what has changed
[07:11] <b0xa> binasco: iirc 20gb is recommended minimum partition size
[07:11] <genii> ripthejacker: The connection which is activated last becomes the default connection.
[07:11] <lecoeus> binasco: run parted and try enlarging the root partition
[07:12] <ripthejacker> b0xa: yes but with both I can get the combined speed
[07:12] <spitboxer> genii: you know anything about xorg-edgers and propietary drivers? I'm on 12.10 on this machine with nvidia proprietary drivers originally using the ViewPortIn and ViewPortOut xorg.conf directives to compensate for some ridiculous overscan and it worked fine. I tried 13.10 on a different machine with ati open source drivers, I couldn't figure out how to get xorg.conf to load - it appears to live in /usr/share/X11/xorg.con
[07:12] <ripthejacker> genii: yes I know, but I want to use the combined speed.
[07:12] <binasco> b0xa: now I want to change for 40Gb..
[07:12] <spitboxer> putting xorg.conf's in /etc/X11 didnt seem to do anything.
[07:13] <binasco> lecoeus: look this http://postimg.org/image/4keflaiw7/\
[07:13] <ripthejacker> genii, lecoeus: I saw something like this for windows,don't rem its name,that can combine different networks
[07:13] <binasco> lecoeus: look this http://postimg.org/image/4keflaiw7/
[07:13] <genii> ripthejacker: There is the bonding driver, however setting it up is not for the faint. If the ISP is same in both cases you may also be able to do MLPPP
[07:14] <spitboxer> TL;DR: I'd much rather use ViewPortIn and ViewPortOut xorg.conf directives than xrandr scripts in lightdm.conf.
[07:14] <spitboxer> Is this possible on 13.10?
[07:14] <lecoeus> binasco: run sudo gparted
[07:14] <lecoeus> or fdisk -l
[07:15] <binasco> ok
[07:15] <b0xa> ripthejacker: no, you dont get combined speed.'
[07:15] <lecoeus> df -h shows the sizes of partitions but the disk space you added is not formatted yet
[07:15] <b0xa> and 3g gives you all of... 7-8mbit MAX... adsl 20+
[07:15] <b0xa> really.
[07:15] <genii> spitboxer: The xorg.conf is still used if it is found, any directives given there will still be followed.
[07:15] <spitboxer> genii: yeah but where does it live?
[07:16] <genii> spitboxer: Normally in /etc/X11
[07:16] <ripthejacker> b0xa: ok the software is connectify dispatch which can connect add up the speed of all your networks
[07:16] <genii> !xorgconf | spitboxer You may also find this informative
[07:16] <ripthejacker> b0xa: http://www.connectify.me/dispatch/
[07:16] <spitboxer> yeah i read all that and wasted hours trying to follow those instructions for ATI
[07:16] <spitboxer> the consensus here, in #ubuntu, was that the only drivers worth running are the default open source
[07:17] <ripthejacker> genii: what all do I need to know, before attempting bonding?
[07:17] <yorick> elabaaaaa
[07:17] <spitboxer> my particular card and ahrdware combination seems to be troublesome for the ati custom drivers: HD4xxx series
[07:17] <spitboxer> also
[07:17] <spitboxer> the real problem is, genii
[07:17] <spitboxer> xorg.conf NO LONGER LIVES in /etc/X11
[07:17] <Guest39564> some womens over here!
[07:17] <spitboxer> its in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[07:17] <spitboxer> and its basically empty
[07:18] <spitboxer> has a few default files there
[07:18] <Peyam> I wanted to install ubuntu 13.10 and I didnt like it, I decided to reinstall xubuntu 13.04 and when I install it after reboot it gives me " reboot and select proper boot device" I never had this problem before. What do I do?.. I have windows 7 installed as well
[07:18] <spitboxer> but nothing relating to my ati configuration - all of that appears to be auto detected or something.
[07:18] <genii> spitboxer: My xorg.conf file which resides in /etc/X11 on my 13.10 and 14.04 is still being used.
[07:19] <spitboxer> strange
[07:19] <spitboxer> I put stuff there, and nothing happened
[07:19] <helmut_> hi
[07:19] <spitboxer> didn't seem to load it at all
[07:19] <genii> spitboxer: Yes, that seems odd.
[07:20] <spitboxer> i'll give it another try
[07:20] <spitboxer> but since ihave it running with xrandr its not a priority right now
[07:20] <binasco> lecoeus: gparted returns command not found and fdisk return this http://postimg.org/image/6z2zqz6c9/
[07:20] <spitboxer> however, on this machine im having a problem upgrading from 12.10 to 13.10 - was running xorg-edgers, disabled that ppa and, reverted to noveaux
[07:21] <genii> spitboxer: Perhaps you're not even using xorg but another engine? Like mir/xmir/wayland ?
[07:21] <spitboxer> spitboxer: is that the new default in 13.10?!?!
[07:21] <binasco> lecoeus: here is ubuntu server 13
[07:21] <spitboxer> er
[07:21] <spitboxer> genii:
[07:21] <spitboxer> haha
[07:21] <reisio> nope
[07:21] <spitboxer> genii: is wayland the new default???
[07:21] <genii> spitboxer: No, should not be. But you never know what people tend to install.
[07:22] <lecoeus> binasco: hmm, you need something like parted to mess around with partitions
[07:22] <spitboxer> genii, yeah, this is a fresh install of kubuntu on that machine
[07:22] <lecoeus> binasco: fdisk could also work but it reports sizes in cylinders or sectors
[07:22] <spitboxer> and the machine im on now, is an install of xubuntu 12.10
[07:22] <lecoeus> binasco: perhaps you have parted instead of gparted
[07:22] <spitboxer> oh well
[07:22] <spitboxer> back to the drawing board haha
[07:22] <spitboxer> thanks for your help
[07:24] <genii> spitboxer: Actually, Kubuntu and regular Ubuntu may be using different subsystems. I think the default at some point for K will be Wayland, however, not currently
[07:24] <binasco> lecoeus: hmm thanks
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> im looking for an alternative to the package prey, an anti-theft program for laptops
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> !info prey
[07:50] <blurkis> hello there. my firefox browser is locked in a wegpage I can not leave. It keeps popping up a question if I want to leave the page, and pressing leave does only pop up a new question. Killing the application with xkill only brings up the same window upon a new launch. How to open a new instance of firefox that do not open that page after I kill firefox?
[07:51] <reisio> blurkis: -safe-mode might be a start
[07:51] <reisio> there's a pref you can toggle to make session management less idiotic
[07:51]  * reisio looks up
[07:51] <findmrg1> apt-get update freeze in Reading package lists... 0% why?
[07:53] <Peeyam> hi
[07:53] <wilee-nilee> findmrg1, Have you modified anything or is this a sudden event?
[07:53] <reisio> blurkis: I'm guessing... the browser.sessionstore ones
[07:53] <Peeyam> Xubuntu installation doesnt show windows partition. it just show the whole hdd as unlocaten
[07:54] <findmrg1> yes before it I did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:colingille/freshlight
[07:54] <reisio> blurkis: as for annoying popups, that's JavaScript, you can temporarily disable it to close such windows/tabs
[07:54] <reisio> Peeyam: as what?
[07:54] <findmrg1> wilee-nilee: yes before it I did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:colingille/freshlight3
[07:54] <blurkis> reisio, seems that after killing it several times, it asked me if I wanted to restore that page.. which I didnt, so now it works.  But its stupid that firefox can be hijacked like that.
[07:54] <Peeyam> reisio, unlocated? I mean no format
[07:54] <reisio> blurkis: yes it is
[07:54] <findmrg1> 3 is wrong mistype
[07:54] <blurkis> reisio, ah.. just disable javascript?
[07:55] <reisio> Peeyam: what says no format?
[07:55] <blurkis> reisio, thanks
[07:55] <reisio> blurkis: that would do it, yes
[07:55] <reisio> disable JS, close offending tab, enable JS again if you please
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> findmrg1, What release are you running?
[07:56] <reisio> blurkis: one (or more?) of the about:config prefs do make it possible to always ask if you want to restore upon startup, rather than just restoring
[07:56] <findmrg1> 13.04
[07:56] <reisio> resume_from_crash, maybe
[07:56] <reisio> no that can't be it
[07:56] <reisio> it's probably resume_session_once, yeah
[07:56] <reisio> set that to false
[07:57] <wilee-nilee> findmrg1, So you had a regular update last time you ran it, no proxies, no changing repos?
[07:58] <Peeyam> reisio, Let me take a pic on gparted
[07:59] <Peeyam> reisio, http://s16.postimg.org/xxkph9iv9/Screenshot_11172013_07_58_25_AM.png
[07:59] <Peeyam> reisio, http://s7.postimg.org/dcuu8dr57/Screenshot_11172013_07_58_37_AM.png
[07:59] <Peeyam> But I have windows 7 installed reisio
[08:01] <Peeyam> reisio, everything is like this when I try to install xubuntu http://imgur.com/UIWDu
[08:02] <Peeyam> reisio, it is the output of fdisk -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/6430650/
[08:02] <reisio> Peeyam: what device is ubuntu on?
[08:02] <Peeyam> right now it is lice usb
[08:02] <reisio> ah
[08:02] <Peeyam> I havent installed it yet
[08:02] <reisio> so you want to... resize windows 7?
[08:03] <Peeyam> I have win 7 on a partition 80 GB I want to have a dual boot with xubuntu
[08:03] <Silverrod> #india
[08:03] <wilee-nilee> holy gpt partition table bits of gpt will killyah
[08:03] <reisio> Peeyam: that's not what this fdisk output says
[08:04] <Peeyam> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6430655/
[08:04] <Peeyam> reisio, I know. thats the problem.
[08:05] <reisio> what about gdisk -l /dev/sda
[08:05] <Peeyam> sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda ?
[08:07] <Peeyam> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6430665/
[08:08] <Peeyam> what should I choose_
[08:08] <reisio> not sure it should matter if you're using -l
[08:08] <reisio> maybe you should ask #windows how to make your partitions make sense
[08:09] <Peeyam> well it works in windows
[08:09] <Peeyam> the problem is that I can run xubuntu
[08:10] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, do you know anything_
[08:10] <Peeyam> about this
[08:10] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, Ubuntu can't see the windows partitions as you have gpt stuff still there, was this a W8 computer to start with?
[08:10] <reisio> the problem is you're trying to do something unexpected with Windows
[08:10] <reisio> which is a Windows problem
[08:11] <Peeyam> reisio, wilee-nilee I have find this. I just dont know if I should give it a try
[08:11] <Peeyam> http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[08:11] <binasco> hi
[08:11] <binasco> I used gparted to change ubuntu partition, but ubuntu dont have new size
[08:11] <binasco> on virtualbox
[08:12] <binasco> please help me
[08:12] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, I would recommend it but backup anything you have in windows you can't loose just in case.
[08:13] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, shoud I have fixparts /dev/sdc?
[08:13] <reisio> Peeyam: ask #windows
[08:13] <Peeyam> should it be sdc?
[08:13] <Peeyam> reisio, what should I exaclt ask_
[08:13] <Peeyam> ?
[08:14] <reisio> Peeyam: 'trying to resize windows partition but gparted is confused in this specific way ${insert way}'
[08:14] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, I have never actually used it, however when I was on the ubuntu forums we advised using this tool in just these situations, but I can't really safely tell you exactly how to use it is all
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, The right helpers in ##windows though know of other tools that get rid of the gpt parts so a second opinion does not hurt.
[08:17] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, can you join me there to explain the issue better?
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, I'm there already, however from reading that link I think the sdc is just an example you would use sda if the HD is sda. I hesitant to really go any farther that this, I don't like being made responsible for a whole OS.
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> I'm*
[08:23] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, are they talking to me there_
[08:23] <Peeyam> ?
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, Hard to tell, they commonly don;t use nicks there, I don't think so you want help from the person I pinged.
[08:24] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, I finally figure the fixpart out
[08:24] <Peeyam> but
[08:24] <Peeyam> it asks me something
[08:25] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6430715/
[08:26] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, if you go down on this page, http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/ it defines the commands. but I dont know which one I should use
[08:28] <Dudytz> hi all ... I am new to zshell. In zsh the "." (dot) not works like bash?
[08:28] <Dudytz> example: ". file.sh"
[08:28] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, yes yesss
[08:28] <womanwholinuxlin> hi there husband get rly frustrat with me becos i no linix he cammunicat in linis on the computar and im like wat do
[08:28] <Peeyam> now it workd
[08:28] <Peeyam> It will go in to my blogg
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, Does windows show now in xubuntu?
[08:29] <Peeyam> yes
[08:29] <Peeyam> the solution was to use partfix
[08:29] <reisio> womanwholinuxlin: heh
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, Cool, I figured you were set I have just never used it is all.
[08:29] <Peeyam> and just save the changes with 'w'
[08:30] <Peeyam> I will note it on my blog for later usage
[08:30] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, Good job finding that site rod is a genius, a Dr of something psychology I believe as well.
[08:30] <krz> 13.10 stable-enough?
[08:31] <wilee-nilee> krz, What's you definition of stable?
[08:32] <krz> wilee-nilee: no silly bugs
[08:32] <krz> "stable-enough"
[08:32] <krz> like the top-right icon of the task bar disappearing
[08:32] <wilee-nilee> krz, Ah silly bugs, this is open source bound to a bug for someone, its been released. ;)
[08:33] <krz> wilee-nilee: you on 13.10?
[08:33] <wilee-nilee> krz, I have it installed with 2 other linux and W8.1.
[08:34] <wilee-nilee> works fine for me
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> you see I keep my feather numbered in case of bugs
[08:39] <xmetal> ah ... we have foghorn_leghorn in here
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> That's right boy now pay attention. ;)
[08:40] <xmetal> <~~ always liked the dog better ...hehe
[08:41] <ruicruz> hi there. i've a broadband mobile card and I don't seems to quite figure it out how to use it with ubuntu. can anyone give me a hand on this?
[08:41] <wilee-nilee> nothin like a southern drawl for a good stereotype.
[08:42] <lapion> hello, is there any other place besides /var where I can find information on installed packages ?
[08:43] <ikonia> lapion: what information do you want ?
[08:44] <reisio> lapion: ask your package manager
[08:44] <wolfgang_> I would love to try out a new linux distro, one thats not to complicated, but something new, everything I have tried is ubuntu/debian based, I want something new.
[08:44] <wolfgang_> What should I try?
[08:44] <lapion> well if someone mistakenly rm /var/* is there any other place I can look to recreate a list of installed packages to use after reinstall ?
[08:44] <ikonia> wolfgang_: not really on topic for this channel
[08:44] <reisio> lapion: /var/log/apt
[08:44] <ikonia> lapion: have you done rm /var/* ?
[08:44] <reisio> oh /var :)
[08:44] <lapion> yes..
[08:45] <reisio> do you still have a DE with a list of apps?
[08:45] <wolfgang_> ikonia, Yes but im not registered with the nickserv and I I dont want to give it my email, and linux requires ncikserv
[08:45] <ikonia> lapion: ok, so your question is "I've done rm /var/* what do I need to do"
[08:45] <xmetal> try www.distrowatch.com and look at some of the reviews
[08:45] <ikonia> wolfgang_: that's not our problem, it doesn't change the topic of this channel
[08:45] <varunendra> ruicruz, give us pastebin link of "lsusb" while the modem is plugged in.
[08:46] <ruicruz> varunendra hi. just a sec.
[08:46] <lapion> i have allready done a reinstall.. but have a backup of the system after rm -rf /var/*
[08:46] <nvs> hi
[08:46] <ikonia> lapion: if you have done a re-install what is the problem then ?
[08:46] <wolfgang_> How do I register with the nick serv?
[08:47] <ikonia> wolfgang_: ask in #freenode or read freenode.net
[08:47] <lapion> need all the previously installed packages..
[08:47] <lapion> list of all the previously installed packages
[08:47] <ikonia> lapion: so you'll need to re-install them manually, your packge list history will be gone
[08:47] <ruicruz> varunendra  here, http://pastebin.com/NEvJxA3f its the first line I think
[08:48] <lapion> ikonia, I was just wondering if anywhere else that list is kept..
[08:48] <ikonia> lapion: not after you've done the re-install, could have generated a new list, but that time has past
[08:49] <lapion> too a list is no continuously saved in home directory..
[08:50]  * lapion allways puts /home on it's own partition
[08:50] <ikonia> lapion: no
[08:50] <ikonia> lapion: you could put /var on it's own partition, but it's still useless if you manually remove data
[08:51] <varunendra> ruicruz, which version of Ubuntu are you using? Does Network Manager recognize the modem?
[08:51] <lapion> well ikonia I shoudl have actually done a backup of packages list and /home every once a up-day
[08:52] <lapion> *an
[08:52] <blurkis> is there perhaps some person with knowledge in python that has a minute over to look on a simple loop that I need to work on? (in pm,)
[08:53] <ikonia> blurkis: ask in #python, this channel is for ubuntu
[08:53] <blurkis> ikonia, ok
[08:55] <ruicruz> varunendra the last TLS fresh from the site with all updates. no, only as USB storage. I try to create a connection but it does not show in the icon on top to connect to.
[08:57] <treefinguy> I'm having an issue where a Windows share accessed by just going to smb://x.x.x.x/name OR by mounting with fstab will time out after a period of inactivity. It will not reconnect unless I restart the machine and in the case of mounting I cannot unmount the file (says it's in use)
[08:58] <nvs> is there a onenote for ubuntu or something?
[08:59] <nvs> something to take notes and classify them to folders
[08:59] <lapion> thanks for the help ikonia
[09:01] <shadytv> nvs, have you tried BasKet?
[09:02] <nvs> no
[09:03] <shadytv> nvs, honestly i'm not much of a note person but I've heard some good things
[09:03] <varunendra> ruicruz, your lsusb suggests the modem has already changed its mode from storage to modem. Please replug it > post the output of "dmesg | tail -20"
[09:03] <Shako> Hi
[09:05] <nvs> i see it now, it has a lots of features but its not as polished as onenote. ill give it a try though
[09:05] <ruicruz> varunendra http://pastebin.com/mbj2WB9i is still mounted as cd-rom I think.
[09:05] <nvs> http://askubuntu.com/questions/19230/microsoft-onenote-alternative
[09:05] <nvs> there are many alternatives thought thats gr8
[09:12] <irc-5225225> I managed to break X by mounting an external drive onto my home folder, now it doesn't start.
[09:12] <varunendra> ruicruz, interesting. I remember this is an old device, unfortunately, don't remember the fix. Please show us "usb-devices | grep -iB2 -A12 12d1"
[09:16] <Devising> hi
[09:18] <shadytv> irc-5225225, can you log into one of the tty's and umount it
[09:19] <ruicruz> varunendra not so old. I've it two years ago. I use ubuntu 10.x with a PCMCIA and my old laptop device, that WAS old :P and I use this one with ubuntu 10.x  awhile ago and I know I had to disable something - but I don't remember why. here is it: http://pastebin.com/TbVuGzUN
[09:19] <irc-5225225> shadytv: I rebooted it, and I couldn't umount as it was in use, even with the -f option.
[09:19] <ruicruz> why -> what
[09:19] <irc-5225225> shadytv: In some TTY's right now.
[09:19] <treefinguy> you could try -lf
[09:20] <treefinguy> I read this earlier while trying to fix my problem, irc-5225225:
[09:20] <treefinguy> The -f option forces (possibly unclean) unmounting, and the -l option is for "lazy unmounting", and seems to work around "device is busy" errors that occur with just -f.
[09:21] <irc-5225225> treefinguy: Yeah, should've done that.
[09:22] <olf-folks> binasco: how are you mounting it?
[09:22] <binasco> olf-folks: resizable
[09:23] <olf-folks> binasco: no how are you trying to mount it in ubuntu?
[09:23] <nvs> do you consider ubuntu lenses safe? or they will cause instability to my system
[09:23] <irc-5225225> treefinguy: I can attempt to send you the xorg.0.log, if that would help.
[09:24] <binasco> hi all I nedd help: I install ubuntu server with 8Gb and now need 40Gb disk space. I changed on Qparted live but my ubuntu dont see new partition size, look images: http://postimg.org/image/d4xewgeov/ http://postimg.org/image/z48sbyu65/ http://postimg.org/image/yqzc7d0a9/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6430849/
[09:24] <ItsMeLenny> does somebody know where i can get VLC 2.1.1 for ubuntu 12.04?
[09:24] <treefinguy> I'm sorry, I wouldn't be any help irc-5225225. I'm pretty new to most of this stuff.
[09:25] <binasco> olf-folks: do not know
[09:26] <wilee-nilee> ItsMeLenny, The two ppa's have below and above that version.
[09:26] <binasco> olf-folks: what I look this?
[09:26] <olf-folks> binasco: i think you increased the vm disk size then enlarged the wrong partition
[09:27] <binasco> yes
[09:27] <ItsMeLenny> wilee-nilee, which ppas
[09:27] <binasco> with line command
[09:28] <wilee-nilee> ItsMeLenny, look on google with vlc ppas
[09:28] <binasco> olf-folks: VBoxManage modifyhd "/Users/fernandobinasco/VirtualBox VMs/php/php.vdi" --resize 40000
[09:28] <ItsMeLenny> in other words they dont
[09:28] <varunendra> ruicruz, please try : sudo usb_modeswitch -v 0x12d1 -p 0x1526 -M "55534243123456780000000000000011062000000100000000000000000000"
[09:28] <olf-folks> binasco: i would shrink sda5 a bit then grow sda1 in gparted
[09:28] <ItsMeLenny> ive looked on google and added multiple ppas, none of them contain higher that version
[09:28] <_munti> ItsMeLenny: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:n-muench/vlc
[09:28] <varunendra> ruicruz, then check dmesg to see if it changed its mode
[09:28] <shadytv> irc-5225225, could you please pastebin that log file id like to look at it
[09:29] <lionrouge> hi! tell me please what CFLAGS are used to compile ubuntu packages?
[09:29] <ItsMeLenny> _munti, it does not contain precise packages
[09:29] <irc-5225225> shadytv: Is there any way to pastebin from the CLI
[09:29] <_munti> ItsMeLenny: try this one,  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:n-muench/vlc2
[09:29] <ItsMeLenny> plus both the builds of it are broken
[09:29] <wilee-nilee> ItsMeLenny, The daily is 2.2 I did not check if 12.04 was supported though
[09:30] <ItsMeLenny> _munti, that has an even older version than what i have
[09:30] <binasco> olf-folks: I try this now
[09:30] <shadytv> irc-5225225, good point...
[09:30] <ItsMeLenny> wilee-nilee, the daily has 2.1.1 in it
[09:30] <ItsMeLenny> no not even that
[09:30] <binasco> olf-folks: you see the command line I paste
[09:30] <ItsMeLenny> https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily/+packages
[09:30] <binasco> ?
[09:31] <irc-5225225> shadytv: found pastebinit.
[09:31] <treefinguy> does anyone know why my mounted windows shares time out after a period of inactivity or what I could do to make them not time out?
[09:31] <ItsMeLenny> ah i found it
[09:31] <binasco> olf-folks: i chose sd5 =/
[09:31] <ItsMeLenny> thanks guys
[09:31] <irc-5225225> shadytv: http://www.pastebin.com/rCSkdhzr should work.
[09:32] <irc-5225225> I did have to manually copy it from another TTY, so there might be a typo in the ID
[09:32] <olf-folks> binasco: yeah i think you should have grew sda1
[09:32] <irc-5225225> that's the xorg.0.log, there's also a xorg.0.log.old if you want that as well.
[09:33] <binasco> olf-folks: wow... I make ricght click and activate .. now sda1 have 40Gb... reboot for test
[09:33] <olf-folks> binasco: it dose not really need 40gb for the first partition but ok
[09:34] <wr0ngnull> hello
[09:34] <wr0ngnull> guyz
[09:35] <lecoeus> sup wr0ngnull
[09:35] <wr0ngnull> how are you lecoeus
[09:35] <lecoeus> not bad
[09:35] <ruicruz> varunendra when I disconnect it comes back as a CD-ROM: http://pastebin.com/zaj5eXG0
[09:35] <wr0ngnull> hmmmm
[09:35] <binasco> olf-folks: dont work
[09:35] <wr0ngnull> bro i have problem
[09:36] <wr0ngnull> to connect dongle in back track 5
[09:36] <wr0ngnull> any help
[09:36] <olf-folks> binasco: more details on dont work?
[09:36] <wilee-nilee> !backtrack
[09:36] <shadytv> irc-5225225, sweet let me look through this file
[09:36] <irc-5225225> shadytv: xorg.0.log.old?
[09:37] <irc-5225225> there's an xorg.log.1, but it's empty.
[09:37] <wr0ngnull> but the back track 5 r3 is good os
[09:37] <binasco> olf-folks: yes, sda5 back to 7Gb... wait screenshot
[09:37] <shadytv> irc-5225225, you might as well
[09:37] <wr0ngnull> hauwei data card how i can connect
[09:38] <wr0ngnull> in back track
[09:38] <wr0ngnull> any full tutorial
[09:38] <wilee-nilee> wr0ngnull, read the bots message
[09:38] <varunendra> ruicruz, so the "usb_modeswitch" command worked it seems. Did network manager detect it as modem in that mode? Did you try to set up a connection?
[09:38] <binasco> olf-folks: http://postimg.org/image/fnfchc18d/
[09:38] <olf-folks> wr0ngnull: backtrack is old, lookup kali-linux
[09:38] <irc-5225225> shadytv: uKSgp4ce
[09:39] <shadytv> how long have you had this problem? this will help with the digging?
[09:39] <ruicruz> hold on. going to retry that varunendra
[09:39] <irc-5225225> shadytv: just happened
[09:39] <shadytv> sweet then ill just need the current log file
[09:39] <wr0ngnull> this command not work now usb_modeswitch
[09:40] <irc-5225225> shadytv: where's that? /var/log/?
[09:40] <olf-folks> binasco: you may want to re install your server in a new vm and set it up right
[09:40] <ruicruz> yap it works varunendra. now... do I need to do that manualy or is there any automated way? :)
[09:41] <irc-5225225> shadytv: those two are the only files that have text in them
[09:41] <wr0ngnull> hay plz solve my problem
[09:41] <wr0ngnull> any one who's knows it
[09:41] <wilee-nilee> wr0ngnull, backtrack is not supported here.
[09:41] <wr0ngnull> ohh really
[09:41] <wr0ngnull> wilee-nilee
[09:41] <shadytv> irc-5225225, i have the file im looking for just give me a minute
[09:42] <wilee-nilee> !backtrack > wr0ngnull
[09:42] <olf-folks> i dont think back track has been supported or updated by anyone in a minute
[09:42] <varunendra> ruicruz, there is definitely a way to automate it, but I'm not sure which one is best or easiest. Let's try a few ones. Give me a sec.
[09:42] <binasco> olf-folks: I'm getting convinced that it is the easiest option ...
[09:42] <wilee-nilee> !root > wr0ngnull
[09:43] <wr0ngnull> but how i can see in a message
[09:43] <binasco> olf-folks: very thanks for your attention
[09:43] <wr0ngnull> i chat first time
[09:43] <ruicruz> varunendra thanks. and even if there is none, you just save my day :)
[09:43] <irc-5225225> shadytv: I'll be back in 5 to 10 minutes. Could you PM me what the problem is so I don't miss it?
[09:43] <shadytv> irc-5225225, try apt-get install xfonts-cyrillic
[09:44] <irc-5225225> shadytv: then try rebooting?
[09:44] <olf-folks> binasco: as other dude said http://paste.debian.net/66243/
[09:44] <varunendra> ruicruz, no problem :) Looks like the easiest way is to just copy a file from 13.04 (or later) into your /usr/share/usb_modeswitch directory. Or you can create that file..
[09:44] <shadytv> yes that should help
[09:45] <irc-5225225> alright.
[09:45] <irc-5225225> hopefully it fixed it.
[09:46] <wr0ngnull> -bash: /usr/share/usb_modeswitch: No such file or directory
[09:46] <shadytv> sorry this is my first time on an irc ive mostly just been lurking. dont really know how to do PMs :(
[09:46] <wr0ngnull> this is show
[09:46] <varunendra> ruicruz, there is a tar.gz file in that directory (/usr/share/usb_modeswitch). Open it, and extract any of the 12d1:15.... files
[09:47] <irc-5225225> shadytv: I belive it's /tell
[09:47] <irc-5225225> nope.
[09:47] <irc-5225225> yeah, it's /msg.
[09:48] <lecoeus> query
[09:48] <olf-folks> join #kalilinux
[09:48] <olf-folks> srry
[09:49] <wr0ngnull> hi
[09:53] <ruicruz> varunendra done
[09:55] <varunendra> ruicruz, wherever you have extracted it (hope desktop), edit it in text editor to make it look exactly like this (copy pasted from original "12d1:1526" file from 13.04 live cd) : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6430984/
[09:56] <varunendra> ruicruz, then save it as "12d1:1526" > copy it back to /usr/share/usb_modeswitch (sudo cp "12d1:1526" /usr/share/usb_modeswitch). Hope that's all we need.
[09:58] <Nuclear_muffin> How Do I update I Graphics card drivers?
[09:59] <ruicruz> varunendra so, it shoud look like this in the folder?
[09:59] <ruicruz> 12d1:1526  configPack.tar.gz
[09:59] <ruicruz> ?
[10:00] <varunendra> ruicruz, yeah, I'm not very sure though. We'll add it to the archive if the separate file doesn't do the job
[10:02] <ruicruz> ok. hold on.
[10:03] <olf-folks> wr0
[10:05] <ruicruz> varunendra no, didn't work. also, I don't have a 1526 file. I created it. is that wrong? I only have (last digits) 05 21 23 26 53 and 57.
[10:06] <varunendra> ruicruz, that file doesn't exist in 12.04. So you did need to create it. Are the contents same as the pastebin link I gave?
[10:06] <ruicruz> yes.
[10:06] <ruicruz> created with the content of your pastebin.
[10:07] <corollax> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk2-engines-aurora/+bug/1251976 What are the odds of getting this fixed?
[10:09] <kakka> hi all, all my NTFS partitions are now in read only mode, how to get rid of it, i reinstalled NTFS-3G STtill no luck, how to solve that problem, i am using UBUNTU 12.04 lts 32 BIT
[10:09] <jost> kakka: what does the corresponding line from /etc/fstab say?
[10:09] <skialp> hello
[10:10] <reisio> 'lo
[10:10] <skialp> !list
[10:11] <kakka> let me see
[10:11] <varunendra> ruicruz, try copying that file (12d1:1526) to /etc/usb_modeswitch.d/
[10:12] <Nuclear_muffin> What is the command for adding a PPA?
[10:13] <Nuclear_muffin> ?
[10:13] <kakka> jost: Thanks, but these entries were not there eariler, they are automatically added , i don;t know how, but i will delete them, except ext4 and swap entries and reboot, and see the changes
[10:14] <trijntje> !addppa
[10:14] <Stuffagain> Anyone know why my wireless keeps asking for my password, and doesn't hold a connection?
[10:15] <ruicruz> varunendra no luck... is there a way to crease a script to execute with or to do like msconfig in windows and add this line when I boot the OS? this is just me thinking, this is way out of my linux experience.
[10:15] <Nuclear_muffin> trijntje, thank you
[10:15] <ruicruz> crease -> create
[10:17] <wilee-nilee> cough elementaryOS
[10:18]  * PatrickDickey doesn't have elementaryOS installed anywhere, but uses their wallpapers for his phone.
[10:19] <varunendra> ruicruz, I forgot a step !! The /etc/usb_modeswitch.d is the correct location for the custom file, but we also need to add a udev rule to tell the OS to run usb_modeswitch (and 'THEN' it will use that custom file).
[10:20] <irc-5225225> buffer 4
[10:22] <Zap-W> is there a driver for SIS M672 chip on 13.10 ??
[10:22] <ruicruz> varunendra ok, got it to the right path. about the udev, how can I proceed?
[10:22] <excognac> hi karthus i bumped into your nick u play lol under linux?
[10:24] <varunendra> ruicruz, I think this is a perfect post for what is left to be done (ignore the part after editing the "/lib/udev/rules.d/40-usb_modeswitch.rules" file) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2074518&p=12310000#post12310000
[10:24] <varunendra> ruicruz, in short, you just need to add one line of a new rule to that file, and done !
[10:26] <varunendra> ruicruz, let me know if you need a step by step help with that. And definitely let us all know the outcome :)
[10:26] <ruicruz> ok got it varunendra. if I need anything else I will let you know. thank you so much for your help. really.
[10:28] <varunendra> ruicruz, you're welcome ! It refreshed my knowledge too.. :)
[10:30] <pailaps> morning fellas
[10:30] <pailaps> just a quick question, how does one update grub via a live-cd?
[10:30] <pailaps> i did the following things
[10:31] <pailaps> first mount /dev/sda1 ( containing the ubuntu partition ) /mnt
[10:31] <pailaps> changed /etc/default/grub like i needed
[10:31] <pailaps> then mount -bind sys, proc, dev
[10:31] <pailaps> and ran update-grub
[10:32] <pailaps> for some reason it complains it cannot find /dev
[10:32] <Togusa> did chroot?
[10:33] <pailaps> Togusa , yes i forgot
[10:34] <pailaps> i did sudo chroot /mnt
[10:34] <pailaps> i just changed the parameter nosplash quiet to nomodeset
[10:34] <Togusa> what does it say, exactly?
[10:34] <pailaps> so it would work on ati graphics cards
[10:34] <pailaps> it crashed atm
[10:35] <pailaps> ill try to reboot and see if it works again
[10:35] <Togusa> i meant
[10:35] <Togusa> the "cannot find /dev" error line is incomplete
[10:35] <Togusa> what's the full line?
[10:35] <PatrickDickey> pailaps: Did you remove nosplash and quiet, or just add the nomodeset to the end of the line?
[10:35] <pailaps> i did remote nosplash and quiet
[10:35] <pailaps> just "nomodeset"
[10:35] <irc-5225225> shadytv: it worked, thank you!
[10:35] <pailaps> err remove*
[10:36] <Togusa> keep in mind that on some computers when you boot from something else (especially if it's using UEFI)
[10:36] <PatrickDickey> Not that I'm sure they are needed, but you might want to put them back in before the nomodeset.
[10:36] <Togusa> they might swap the priority of the drives
[10:36] <Togusa> i.e.: you boot from a USB stick, your primary drive might become /dev/sdb
[10:36] <pailaps> i should doublecheck that
[10:36] <wilee-nilee> pailaps, How did you change /etc/default/grub?
[10:36] <pailaps> thanks guys , but my computer is dead in the water
[10:37] <pailaps> wilee-nilee, just opened it with vi
[10:37] <pailaps> and edited the parts i needed
[10:37] <wilee-nilee> pailaps, No, what is it you needed?
[10:37] <Togusa> the issue is not the file, but the fact that update-grub fails
[10:37] <pailaps> yea
[10:37] <pailaps> but i cant look any further atm, because i have to fix the underlying issue
[10:38] <pailaps> it doesnt boot at all
[10:38] <pailaps> hardware issue probably
[10:38] <Togusa> not even the livecd?
[10:38] <pailaps> Togusa, nope
[10:38] <Togusa> that sucks
[10:38] <pailaps> says just Boot error
[10:38] <shadytv> irc-5225225, glad i could help :)
[10:38] <wilee-nilee> pailaps, You have to chroot before doing any of that, could the bootrepair app maybe fix this?
[10:38] <Togusa> yeah watchout for the boot repair thing
[10:39] <Togusa> i have a UEFI laptop and since i've installed from USB
[10:39] <Togusa> the usb stick became /dev/sda
[10:39] <Togusa> and the installer partitioned that one automatically
[10:39] <Togusa> and nuked the installer
[10:39] <Togusa> :D
[10:39] <wilee-nilee> lucky you hehe
[10:40] <Togusa> i'm using legacy boot mode right now, 'cause the netinst ISO doesn't support UEFI :/
[10:40] <wilee-nilee> nope
[10:42]  * PatrickDickey mental note. Make sure my next laptop has a DVD Drive. :S
[10:42] <Organicanarchy> is Ubuntu a good option for a 1.6ghz cpu with 2 gig of ram?
[10:42] <Togusa> PatrickDickey: i regret having it :/
[10:43] <Togusa> they're fragile, they're not used anymore...and if you really need one, you can always get an USB one
[10:43] <Togusa> Organicanarchy: maybe not with Unity
[10:43] <PatrickDickey> Organicanarchy: Sure. If it seems slow, you can always switch to a lighter desktop environment.
[10:44] <PatrickDickey> I'd suggest either Kubuntu or maybe Lubuntu though Organicanarchy.
[10:44] <Organicanarchy> PatrickDickey: I KNOW I wont be using Unity
[10:44] <Organicanarchy> I was gonna try gnome3 or xfce I think
[10:44] <CiSense> hi, I have 13.04 and XP installed and want to add 13.10. When I boot 13.10 from USB and select install other it asks for the "boot loader installation" partition, is that the new partition where 13.10 should be installed?
[10:45] <Togusa> i think xfce is a better choice for those specs
[10:45] <Organicanarchy> I think so too, I want to run ChromiumOS, it seems REALLY cool, but I need a system that can run wine
[10:45] <PatrickDickey> CiSense: Out of curiosity, why don't you want to just upgrade 13.04 to 13.10?
[10:46] <[Gentoo]> CiSense: that should be the start of the drive e.g. /dev/sda
[10:46] <CiSense> PatrickDickey,  because 13.04 upgrade has recalculate errors and I do not want to undo my working system
[10:47] <Togusa> i don't think that using the CD is so much different than upgrading a live system..am i wrong?
[10:47] <[Gentoo]> Togusa: what do you mean?
[10:47] <pailaps> nope, it just changes the packages
[10:47] <CiSense> [Gentoo],  is that where the grub boot loader is located for 13.04 and XP?
[10:47] <pailaps> no differences
[10:47] <[Gentoo]> CiSense: usually
[10:48] <CiSense> [Gentoo], ok so *not* the new partition
[10:48] <pailaps> Organicanarchy, i might suggest even Enlightment based ubuntu distributions
[10:48] <Togusa> [Gentoo]: i thought that upgrading via CD is the same as setting the repository to what you have on disc and issuing a dist-upgrade
[10:48] <pailaps> looks awsome :>
[10:48] <Togusa> *was
[10:48] <[Gentoo]> Togusa: oh not sure
[10:49] <[Gentoo]> iwould guess so
[10:52] <ruicruz> varunendra it works. :>
[10:52] <ruicruz> (3g modem thing, 30 mins ago)
[10:52] <ruicruz> :)
[10:52] <varunendra> ruicruz, Yay ! :)
[10:52] <ruicruz> tks one more time.
[10:53] <varunendra> anytime ! :)
[11:04] <moppy> On saucy, my SDCards are mounting in read only mode only ... no idea why. They don't have write protect switches.
[11:04] <user2_> why do i see 'sudo: cd: command not found'
[11:04] <moppy> I can format them from disk manager though ... then they remount readonly again :(
[11:06] <Sven_vB> user2_, there's probably no "cd" program itself, as it wouldn't make much sense. try opening a root shell (sudo -s) and then there issue your cd command.
[11:06] <moppy> now i have an odd error: "Cannot mount /dev/sdb1 at /var/run/udisks2/block-format-tos-6VzOGS: Too many levels of symbolic links (udisks-error-quark, 0)"
[11:06] <[Gentoo]> yes cd is a builtin command
[11:06] <user2_> Sven_vB: great, thanks
[11:08] <user2_> can i mount another users data with one command using sudo
[11:08] <user2_> as in /home/other_user/stuff
[11:10] <Sven_vB> user2_, where's the other users' data stored?
[11:10] <jgcampbell300> has anyone here used backup pc ... i am looking for opinion of this software
[11:10] <user2_> Sven_vB: under home
[11:10] <[Gentoo]> jgcampbell300: theres other ways
[11:11] <Sven_vB> also, take a step back: what's the intention, why would you wanna mount it?
[11:11] <[Gentoo]> dno what "backup pc is
[11:11] <reisio> jgcampbell300: never heard of it
[11:11] <[Gentoo]> jgcampbell300: clonezilla and rsync will do anything
[11:11] <user2_> Sven_vB: i just want to get my files under the other user account, the txt files say its been unmounted
[11:11] <user2_> Sven_vB:  'THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA.'
[11:11] <jgcampbell300> im accualy looking for something that will do backup for large number of pc's and servers
[11:11] <reisio> jgcampbell300: looks like yet another frontend to rsync
[11:12] <jgcampbell300> ya it uses rsync
[11:12] <reisio> jgcampbell300: you want 1:1 backups, or incremental?
[11:12] <moppy> i think i have tracked down the problem to user groups - now where did the user group editor go in the unity gui? users doesnt seem to do it anymore (yes I can do it from terminal but where is that gui gone?)
[11:12] <jgcampbell300> incremental with compression if possable
[11:12] <Sven_vB> user2_, is there a removable device involved?
[11:12] <reisio> jgcampbell300: look into rdiff-backup
[11:12] <user2_> Sven_vB:  no
[11:13] <jgcampbell300> k thanks
[11:13] <user2_> Sven_vB: just seems like standard procedure, the other user's data is unmounted for privacy or something
[11:13] <Sven_vB> user2_, oh, then maybe encrypted home directories are in place?
[11:13] <nima__> poweruser looking for a terminal emulator: fullscreen, tabbed, windowed, borderless (nothing but prompt when tabbed), font resize. Also with keyboard shortcuts for mentioned features
[11:14] <user2_> Sven_vB: nah
[11:14] <nima__> essentially want iterm 2 for ubuntu >:/
[11:14] <ruicruz> varunendra can I count on you for another thing? do you know of a full magnification software? acessibility in unbuty only have a portion of the screen, I was looking for a full window magnification.
[11:14] <reisio> gnome-terminal will probably suffice
[11:14] <user2_> Sven_vB: the directory just has two files, 'Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop' and readme.txt
[11:15] <nima__> infact windows has conemu which also has mentioned features
[11:15] <Sven_vB> ok, i'll try find what creates such files
[11:15] <[Gentoo]> nima__: any full featured terminal will do them
[11:15] <nima__> reisio: gnome-terminal i can't make the tab bar disappear otherwise it does do the above
[11:15] <[Gentoo]> urxvt etc will take some tweaking
[11:15] <[Gentoo]> and tabs might not be what you expect
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> good day to all
[11:15] <reisio> nima__: you want tabs but no bar?
[11:16] <varunendra> ruicruz, I don't have experience with that, only tried some compiz features at experimental level once, nothing beyond that :(
[11:16] <nima__> Gentoo: yeah i had a go with urxvt and i couldn't get the fonts and colours to work
[11:16] <nima__> gentoo: and yeah tabs not what i was expecting irc
[11:16] <[Gentoo]> nima__: its all done in .Xresources
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> im looking for an alternative for the package 'prey' an anti-theft utility for laptops, any hints?
[11:16] <ruicruz> varunendra compiz... tried some but not that. let me check. thanks anyway. :)
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> !info prey
[11:16] <jgcampbell300> reisio, do you know if rdiff-backup will handle mac and win as well ?
[11:17] <[Gentoo]> nima__: but its a great terminal and really fast and light
[11:17] <nima__> reisio: i use tmux and mutliple machines - so a window is a task, a tab is a machine, and tmux something i'm doing on the machine
[11:17] <reisio> jgcampbell300: rdiff-backup backs up data that it sees
[11:17] <Sven_vB> user2_, as i thought, there's encryption happening, although maybe not for the entire home directory. (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory ) so the easiest way probably would be to login as that user, copy the files to a place where boht users have access, and then read them from there.
[11:17] <uncle_ben> i know at a bash shell if you append a command with '&' it will background the process so you can return to a prompt, but when i invoke a vncserver, i need to hit the enter key again to actually get a prompt. how can i get to the prompt without having the press the enter key again?
[11:17] <varunendra> ruicruz, with mouse (not touchpad) the "Enhanced Zoom Desktop" feature worked pretty well for me
[11:17] <jgcampbell300> reisio, cool ... thanks again
[11:17] <reisio> nima__: then how doesn't gnome-terminal work, again?
[11:17] <nima__> Gentoo: yeah it was close - right now using terminology (enlightenment/bodhi)
[11:18] <nima__> resisio: i can't hide the tab bar and it is hideous for me
[11:18] <reisio> nima__: you want tabs but no bar?
[11:18] <moppy> ok it seems they removed gnome system tools in saucy  - found it now
[11:19] <user2_> Sven_vB: trouble is i cannot login as that user, i have an xinit error when i run startx
[11:19] <user2_> Sven_vB: are you familiar with this type of issue
[11:19] <[Gentoo]> nima__: whats terminology like? im not a big fan of enlightenment stuff and though it looked a bit cheesy
[11:20] <ruicruz> varunendra this is for an eee pc so no mouse. anyway I've time. I can search programs... but without internet I can't. you solve the first prob :) thanks
[11:20] <nima__> reisio: yes tab feature no signs of tab but when i ctrl+pgup to switch tabs
[11:20] <nima__> reisio: iterm2 has an auto hide for tab bar
[11:21] <Sven_vB> user2_, do you have another machine on network that has X working? then you could try X SSH forwarding to use that other machine's X to login
[11:21] <[Gentoo]> user2_: what xinit error?
[11:21] <[Gentoo]> not command not found?
[11:21] <nima__> gentoo: terminology is promising - very much still in development - no shortcuts for some things, but otherwise smooth and pertty on my rig
[11:21] <varunendra> ruicruz, maybe post a thread in ubuntuforums. IRC can be great, but only when right people are logged in and are watching.
[11:21] <user2_> Sven_vB: the one user can't use startx, but a new user on same machine/os can
[11:22] <user2_> [Gentoo]: one moment
[11:22] <nima__> gentoo: haven't really tested advanced features and font resize doesn't result in a column/row number changes just content off screen :P
[11:22] <[Gentoo]> idk
[11:22] <Sven_vB> user2_, then i'd try SSH X forwarding to localhost, and log into the broken account via SSH
[11:22] <nima__> reisio gentoo: thanks anyways i figured as much if friends/google couldn't tell me of a terminal emulator as good as conemu and iterm 2
[11:22] <user2_> 'xinit: connection to x server lost' just after 'loading extension AMDXVBA
[11:22] <user2_> '
[11:23] <user2_> Sven_vB: i can log into broken account command line, but want gui
[11:23] <reisio> considering a hiding tab bar as "goodness" is a stretch, but you like what you like :p
[11:24] <Sven_vB> user2_, that's why i suggest using SSH with X forwarding. ssh will share the working X with the broken account, so it can use that instead.
[11:24] <ruicruz> varunendra going to test this http://www.magnifiers.org/links/Screen_Magnifiers/UNIX_Linux/ if not I'd go with the forums :)
[11:25] <user2_> Sven_vB: isnt that a bandaid solution?
[11:25] <Sven_vB> user2_, now that i think of it, it woul probably also work to use just su -iu broken
[11:25] <Sven_vB> err i mean sudo -iu broken
[11:25] <user2_> Sven_vB: id like that other account to be back to normal, although at least getting the files through  SSH with X forwarding would be nice
[11:26] <Lightsword> anyone know the proper way to set up a nfsv3 server on ubuntu server 13.10 with static ports and no ip range limits?
[11:26] <Sven_vB> but not sure if sudo -iu will arrange the X access cookie. or if that is even necessary
[11:27] <user2_> Sven_vB: how/when would i use that command
[11:27] <user2_> [Gentoo]: any advise?
[11:27] <user2_> [Gentoo]: any advice?*
[11:27] <Sven_vB> user2_, open a terminal window inside the working x, then use sudo -iu broken to acquire user broken's login
[11:28] <Sven_vB> -u sets the username you want to sudo into
[11:29] <user2_> Sven_vB: oh, sounds good, but i get this msg: Perhaps try the interactive 'ecryptfs-mount-private' after 'Signature not found in user keyring'
[11:30] <Sven_vB> ok.. so after sudo -iu, you should have a shell prompt that shows the broken user's name, - does it work to that extent already?
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> Lightsword: not sure if this is updated for 13.10, but maybe it helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto
[11:31] <Ben64> user2_: whats the actual problem you're trying to resolve and how was it caused?
[11:31] <Lightsword> lotuspsychje I found that, problem is thats for nfsv4 and I need nfsv3
[11:32] <Sven_vB> Ben64, encrypted private directory, and the user with the key in its keyring lost ability to start X
[11:32] <Ben64> Lightsword: click the section that has v3 in it?
[11:33] <Ben64> Sven_vB: ew, thats why i advise against encryption
[11:33] <Lightsword> Well, I need to disable nfsv4 as well, and disable all authentication
[11:33] <bekks> Sven_vB: you dont need the keyring to decrypt the home. you need the password ;)
[11:33] <bekks> Lightsword: nfsv has not auth, while nfsv4 does.
[11:33] <Sven_vB> Ben64, encryption is nice if you organize it yourself and thus know where the data and keys are :))
[11:33] <Lightsword> basically need to remap uid/gid's to have full r/w access
[11:34] <bekks> Lightsword: nfsv3 has no auth, while nfsv4 does.
[11:34] <user2_> Ben64: i try and login with user1 account, but it shows black screen then goes back to login screen, i used ctrl+alt+f1 to login that way, then run startx, startx goes through some motions but says ultimately, 'xinit: connection to x server lost'.  so i created a new user and alls fine with that, but i want to fix the old broken account.
[11:34] <Lightsword> bekks doesn't nfsv3 have uid/gid authentication?
[11:34] <Sven_vB> bekks, that might make it easier. would you guide user2_ to recover his data using the password?
[11:34] <bekks> Lightsword: No. NFSv3 has not auth at all.
[11:34] <Lightsword> bekks how do you limit access at all then?
[11:35] <user2_> Sven_vB: i think i can recover the data by logging in with old account command line, and mounting flash and copying data.  i'd like to target the other issue i just mentioned to ben64
[11:35] <bekks> user2_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[11:35] <Lightsword> bekks, does it just use IP bindings to limit access?
[11:36] <bekks> Lightsword: Using nfsv3, you just use filesystem permissions, and IP restrictions. thats no auth at all.
[11:36] <user2_> Sven_vB: in other words, i can get at the data through a longer route, but i want to fix the account
[11:36] <Lightsword> bekks, how do you remap all incoming uid/gid's to a single new one?
[11:36] <Doge1337> Why does gnome-screensaver start AFTER the computer is restarted and not before? Thats insecure as shit
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> !nfs | Lightsword
[11:36] <Sven_vB> user2_, ok, sounds like a graphics driver problem. that's not my area of knowledge.
[11:37] <Doge1337> Ubuntu is insecure bloatware
[11:37] <user2_> Sven_vB: ah, that was what someone named Blueskaj said
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Doge1337
[11:37] <Lightsword> do I use idmapd.conf to force remappings?
[11:38] <bekks> Lightsword: Refer to the article please.
[11:38] <Doge1337> It is about Ubuntu retard
[11:38] <bekks> Doge1337: Ignore set.
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> !language | Doge1337
[11:38] <Doge1337> No u
[11:38] <Doge1337> I asked a question
[11:38] <user2_> Sven_vB: ill just wait for him to repeat his suggestion, or maybe the log files i can read
[11:38] <Doge1337> Is this Ubuntu support or not
[11:38] <uncle_ben> >2013
[11:38] <Lightsword> bekks, ive pretty much read that document 10 times by this point along with a ton of other info, should that be fully up to date?
[11:38] <uncle_ben> >still using 1337
[11:39] <bekks> Lightsword: It is up to date.
[11:39] <Doge1337> I used 1338 before but its in use
[11:39] <reisio> Doge1337: when do you want the screensaver to start?
[11:39] <uncle_ben> stick with lfs...anything else is insecure bloatware
[11:39] <Doge1337> before the computer hibernates
[11:39] <Doge1337> and not after it is restarted and you can even operate before it starts
[11:40] <bekks> uncle_ben: userland is insecure. Just stick with the kernel ;)
[11:40] <uncle_ben> or plan9 if u wanna be uber1337
[11:41] <Doge1337> oh is this /g/ now?
[11:41] <Doge1337> please I asked a question
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> !patience | Doge1337
[11:41] <reisio> Doge1337: you have /etc/pm/ ?
[11:41] <Lightsword> bekks, I see very little information on non-standard mapping configurations, should I be changing user and group to the default?
[11:42] <reisio> Doge1337: could also be compiz
[11:42] <Doge1337> yes I do
[11:42] <Lightsword> like user=1000 group=1000?
[11:42] <reisio> Doge1337: try disabling compiz's new window zoom out effect, it might just be that
[11:42] <reisio> if you're using Unity
[11:42] <bekks> Lightsword: If you have to ask that, the answer is a clear "no".
[11:43] <Lightsword> bekks, well I need to generalize it, the server should always change the incoming user to map to a single uid/gid
[11:43] <Lightsword> heres what i'm working on btw https://github.com/Lightsword1942/Tomato-VM/blob/nomodules/manifests/default.pp
[11:43] <Doge1337> how2 disable compiz?
[11:44] <bekks> Lightsword: Thats OpenWRT, correct? Thats no Ubuntu.
[11:44] <Lightsword> bekks, its actually a ubuntu vm with vagrant
[11:45] <Lightsword> bekks, the code is a puppet provisioner
[11:45] <Doge1337> I dont use unity
[11:45] <reisio> k then it isn't compiz
[11:45] <Doge1337> I use superior xfce
[11:45] <Lightsword> bekks, its a supposed to be a headless cross-compiler for use in windows environments
[11:45] <reisio> mmm, Xfce
[11:45] <reisio> Doge1337: with xfwm?
[11:45] <Doge1337> yes
[11:46] <reisio> Doge1337: and xscreensaver?
[11:46] <Doge1337> no gnome-screensaver
[11:46] <Doge1337> xscreensaver was default but I deleted it
[11:46] <bekks> Lightsword: I never used vagrant nor puppet.
[11:46] <reisio> Doge1337: I'd switch back
[11:46] <Doge1337> why that?
[11:46] <Doge1337> xscreensaver is ugly as hell
[11:46] <reisio> gnome-screensaver is made with gnome in mind, I dare say
[11:47] <Doge1337> gnome-screensaver is slim and beautiful
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> purge gnome-screensaver and install xscreensaver
[11:47] <reisio> and insecure as hell? :p
[11:47] <Doge1337> no its just the order how it starts
[11:47] <Lightsword> bekks, vagrant is an application that can fully configure box's with environmental requirements
[11:47] <Sven_vB> if you need the screensaver to lock your screen, don't rely on gnome-ss
[11:47] <Doge1337> if it would start before is hibernates there would be no problem
[11:48] <reisio> Doge1337: did you look around in xfce's power manager prefs?
[11:48] <Doge1337> yes
[11:48] <bekks> Lightsword: I know what it is, thats why I never used it ;)
[11:48] <Doge1337> nothing there
[11:48] <Lightsword> bekks, the problem is that I need to use the windows 7 native NFS client and its not configurable without a domain server
[11:48] <reisio> Doge1337: okay, well you can force whatever you like in /etc/pm/
[11:48] <Doge1337> I will try
[11:48] <Doge1337> thanks for help mister reisio
[11:48] <reisio> np mister doge
[11:48] <Lightsword> bekks, so I need to have the server force new mapping
[11:49] <Doge1337> I will come back if I have any problems
[11:49] <bekks> Lightsword: then look at "nfs server idmap" ;)
[11:49] <Doge1337> have a nice day
[11:49] <reisio> righto
[11:49] <Lightsword> bekks, is that nfsv3 compatible?
[11:49] <bekks> Lightsword: Yes?
[11:50] <Sven_vB> Lightsword, if the small rocks fail, create mount points for all remote users and bind-mount them a version mapped to their UID.
[11:50] <Lightsword> there is a single user only without a set UID, I need to remap any incoming uid to a standard one
[11:51] <bekks> Lightsword: Then use idmap ...
[11:51] <Sven_vB> bind-mounting should be able to solve that as well.
[11:51] <Lightsword> it looks like idmap is only nfsv4
[11:51] <Sven_vB> (if idmap wouldn't work for you)
[11:51] <bekks> Lightsword: It isnt.
[11:52] <bekks> Lightsword: And it is described in here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[11:53] <bekks> Lightsword: I just checked wether it is described in there or not.
[11:55] <Lightsword> https://gist.github.com/Lightsword1942/7512436
[11:55] <Lightsword> does that look valid?
[11:56] <Lightsword> i've been trying a bunch of different options but I can't get it to work
[11:56] <bekks> Lightsword: Then be more precise, since "cant get it to work" is very, very generic.
[11:58] <Lightsword> https://gist.github.com/Lightsword1942/7512465
[11:59] <Nuclear_muffin> How do I go about updating my graphics card settings?
[12:00] <Sven_vB> Nuclear_muffin, try finding the latest version of your graphics card's user manual
[12:01] <Sven_vB> Lightsword, show us the last few lines of syslog after the NFS kernel fail
[12:01] <Nuclear_muffin> Sven_vB Its some intel integrated graphics
[12:01] <Sven_vB> Nuclear_muffin, then your graphics card's user manual should be included in the manual of your mainboard
[12:02] <Nuclear_muffin> Sven_vB I dont have my user manuals, and my computer is discontinued, and if you look it up it has differnet hard ware than mine does to, cant find any of that...
[12:04] <Sven_vB> Nuclear_muffin, check if there's something that sounds reasonably descriptive in >>lspci | grep -i vga<<, and try looking that up in the ubuntu wiki
[12:04] <Lightsword> Nov 17 12:02:58 vagrant-ubuntu-saucy-64 puppet-agent[1139]: Could not request certificate: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known
[12:05] <bekks> Lightsword: Thats a) not the full output , but just one line and b) unrelated to NFS.
[12:05] <Nuclear_muffin> sven_vB, lspci | grep -i vga
[12:05] <Lightsword> https://gist.github.com/Lightsword1942/7512512
[12:05] <Nuclear_muffin> sven_vb sorry thought I copied the output
[12:06] <Nuclear_muffin> Sven_vB, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[12:08] <Sven_vB> ok that sounds like one i have on one of my machines, and never had problems with that. what setting is it that you'd want to update?
[12:08] <mathfreak_> Lightsword: Can 0.0.0.0 even be used in the exports file? I thought it would be 0.0.0.0/32 or *
[12:08] <Lightsword> I have no idea, but I've tried pretty much everything
[12:08] <Lightsword> https://github.com/Lightsword1942/Tomato-VM/blob/nomodules/manifests/default.pp
[12:08] <Nuclear_muffin> Sven_vB, Was that directed at me?
[12:08] <bekks> 0.0.0.0 is invalid. Use * instead.
[12:08] <Lightsword> thats the full code, modifying a few other files as well, not sure if I'm missing something
[12:09] <Lightsword> do i bracket the options?
[12:09] <Sven_vB> Nuclear_muffin, yes :)
[12:09] <minimec> Hi I need your help with /etc/resolv.conf All my systems (with one exeption) boot and set the nameserver to 'nameserver 127.0.1.1'. One machine sets resolv.conf to 'nameserver 127.0.0.1'. As result I don't have local machine names resolved correctly.
[12:09] <bekks> Lightsword: USe: *(...) instead 0.0.0.0(...)
[12:09] <minimec> I might have changed that myself once, but I don't remember were I did that. Could you give me a hint, where to change that again?
[12:09] <Nuclear_muffin> Sven_vb, My openGL isnt working well in steam, I know it needs an update but steams auto updater isnt fixing it.
[12:10] <Lightsword> https://github.com/Lightsword1942/Tomato-VM/blob/nomodules/manifests/default.pp#L88
[12:10] <Lightsword> like in that line?
[12:10] <Sven_vB> Nuclear_muffin, then i'd try and update OpenGL itself
[12:10] <Nuclear_muffin> Sven_vB, How do I do that?
[12:11] <mathfreak_> minimec: I'd check the /etc/resolvconf directory. The update.d and resolv.conf.d subdirectories are used to generate resolv.conf
[12:11] <Sven_vB> Nuclear_muffin, i don't really know, but usually you'd >>aptitude search opengl<<, look what packages of opengl are installed, and investigate them
[12:12] <Nuclear_muffin> Sven_vB, sudo: aptitude: command not found
[12:13] <Sven_vB> then use your package manager of choice to search for opengl updates :)
[12:15] <minimec> mathfreak_: I had a look there. 'base' and 'head' in resolv.conf.d are empty. I will check update.d
[12:17] <Nuclear_muffin> Sven_vB, I need something called: 8.0.4-0ubuntu0.6 But I dont see it in synaptics, and sudo apt-get install 8.0.4-0ubuntu0.6
[12:17] <Nuclear_muffin> Sven_vB, Niether found it
[12:17] <triplc> how to enable glx in nvidia? (i installed compton+openbox (from text-based ubuntu, not default unity))
[12:17] <bekks> Nuclear_muffin: Which package are you talking about?
[12:18] <Nuclear_muffin> bekks, Its something for OpenGL that steam says I should have
[12:18] <mathfreak_> Nuclear_muffin: what does Steam say exactly?
[12:18] <bekks> Nuclear_muffin: "something" is not a known package to me.
[12:18] <Sven_vB> Nuclear_muffin, try putting the package name and an equal sign (=) in front of the version number
[12:19] <Nuclear_muffin> Sven_vb I really dont know where to put it in that
[12:19] <mathfreak_> minimec: As I remember, the resolv.conf.d subdirectory only matters if you're not using something like NetworkManager (which is preferable if you're using a GUI)
[12:19] <Sven_vB> then post a link to the steam info you're reading
[12:20] <mathfreak_> minimec: In my situation, I found /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/original, which contains just the line "nameserver 192.168.0.1"
[12:20] <Nuclear_muffin> Where do screen shots go to?
[12:20] <bekks> Nuclear_muffin: Where you save them.
[12:20] <Sven_vB> Nuclear_muffin, picpaste.de
[12:20] <Nuclear_muffin> I never set a place
[12:21] <Sven_vB> then they're probably in your home directory
[12:21] <dakotawulfy> Nuclear_muffin  check under your user dir
[12:21] <Sven_vB> or "My Pictures" if you have the xdg plague ;)
[12:21] <minimec> mathfreak_: I see. Well On all my 'working' machines, the 'base' and 'head' files would be empty either. I do not remember anyway to have modified anything in /etc/resolvconf.
[12:22] <mathfreak_> minimec: I believe the files in resolv.conf.d are concatenated (head, original) to create resolv.conf, so you could append "nameserver 127.0.1.1" to the end of head
[12:22] <Nuclear_muffin> bekks, sven_vb, 8.0.4-0ubuntu0.6
[12:22] <Nuclear_muffin> sorry
[12:22] <Nuclear_muffin> bekks, sven_vb, Coppied the wrong thing
[12:23] <Nuclear_muffin> bekks, sven_vb, http://imgur.com/zF8jTkM,oOJ2lQ7
[12:23] <minimec> mathfreak_: Problem is, that 'head' is # Dynamic resolv.conf --> YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[12:24] <bekks> Nuclear_muffin: So which video driver are you using then...? Its you computer, you should know it. We cant guess it.
[12:24] <Sven_vB> try upgrading your entire system, it
[12:24] <Sven_vB> 's easier than retyping that package name
[12:25] <mathfreak_> minimec: Ah right. When the resolv.conf.d files are used to generate resolv.conf, that comment is meant for the user who is looking at resolv.conf (not the files used to generate resolv.conf)
[12:25] <Sven_vB> if global upgrad is unavailable, try upgrading that libgl..... with apt-get install libgl***=8.0.4.ub***
[12:25] <mathfreak_> minimec: It means that you should not edit resolv.conf directly. If you need to add in your own lines, you edit the head and original files instead.
[12:26] <mathfreak_> Nuclear_muffin: sudo apt-get update (this updates your system's package list)
[12:26] <mathfreak_> Nuclear_muffin: follow up with sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:26] <Sven_vB> or wait... you could just try and click that "UPGRADE" button
[12:26] <Sven_vB> maybe it works
[12:26] <OerHeks> Nuclear_muffin, looks like you have an ElementaryOS issue
[12:26] <Nuclear_muffin> oerheks, Yes...
[12:27] <minimec> mathfreak_: Ok. I will try to add this in 'head'. I will have to restart my network afterwards, so I will be back soon. THX anyway for your help.
[12:27] <mathfreak_> minimec: Good luck!
[12:27] <Nuclear_muffin> oerheks, Its still ubuntu based, and last time I said I had elementary os I got people complaining about the polocy, so I didnt point that out, thank you very much.....
[12:28] <Lightsword> bekks, these are the config files I'm setting https://gist.github.com/Lightsword1942/7512773
[12:29] <Lightsword> do those look correct?
[12:29] <Sven_vB> well if package upgrade fails, the OS flavour might be part of the cause. but let's wait until you tried that upgrade button.
[12:30] <OerHeks> Nuclear_muffin, why use elementary then? it is not supported here, elementaryOS has its own issues.
[12:31] <Nuclear_muffin> OerHeks, But I like it better, and it has less isues, now that has nothing to do with updating drivers.
[12:31] <Sven_vB> Nuclear_muffin, if you interrupt the support session for flavour wars, supporters are likely to step away for other tasks and you'd have to explain stuff again ;)
[12:32] <Nuclear_muffin> Sven_vB Sorry, so what do I do?
[12:32] <Sven_vB> click that upgrade button and tell us what happens
[12:32] <Nuclear_muffin> I get a lot more errors, I will take screen shots, and give them all to you
[12:32] <bekks> Nuclear_muffin: Do you use ElementaryOS currently?
[12:33] <Nuclear_muffin> bekks, Yes
[12:33] <bekks> Nuclear_muffin: Thats not supported in here. Please refer to the ElementaryOS support.
[12:34] <Sven_vB> we'll take it to #opengl-steam then
[12:40] <Nitin144> hiii
[12:40] <Nitin144> hiii?
[12:40] <Nitin144> i am having a problem
[12:40] <Nitin144> can u help?
[12:40] <Nitin144> reply neede
[12:40] <Nitin144> d
[12:41] <bekks> !help | Nitin144
[12:42] <OerHeks> Just ask, wait and see, Nitin144
[12:42] <Nitin144> ok thx
[12:42] <Nitin144> i am having star 3 duos phone
[12:43] <Nitin144> when i turn on wifi hotspot
[12:43] <Gnimsh> @seek dodger
[12:43] <Nitin144> network is visible in my phone but not connecting
[12:43] <Nitin144> WHAT TO DO?
[12:43] <reiko> hello ello
[12:43] <OerHeks> Nitin144, is your phone running ubuntu ?
[12:44] <Nitin144> NO I HAVE UBUNTO IN HP LAPTOP
[12:44] <reiko> greetings from Poland
[12:44] <Togusa> :D
[12:44] <Nitin144> i have phone samsung star 3 duos
[12:44] <bekks> Nitin144: So it is not an Ubuntu issue, when your phone isnt running Ubuntu.
[12:44] <mathfreak_> Nitin144: So, you're tethering your laptop to your phone?
[12:44] <Nitin144> but it is in laptop yaar
[12:45] <illuminated> will lspci list agp video cards as well?
[12:46] <bekks> illuminated: Yes.
[12:46] <minimec> mathfreak_: Ok. Seems that a messed around with NetworkManager. Solution was in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf. I had to comment out '# dns=dnsmasq'. So its working again. THX again for your time. NEtworkManager can be a pain. ;)
[12:46] <OerHeks> illuminated, sure, an AGP connector is actually an PCI device
[12:46] <illuminated> bekks thanks
[12:47] <mathfreak_> minimec: you're welcome. Thanks for sharing some knowledge about NM as well
[12:49] <mathfreak_> Nitin144: Please clarify. When the "network is visible in phone but not connecting," do you mean that the phone is unable to connect to your provider's network when you enable tethering (if this is the case, it's not an ubuntu-related problem)?
[12:50] <Nitin144> i appriciate your understanding you understand correctly thank you very much
[12:52] <mathfreak_> Nitin144: In that case, the issue isn't an Ubuntu issue. Sorry about that, but you'll have to ask for help elsewhere (there might be a channel open for phone-related issues)
[12:54] <grul> hello, my "distribution upgrade" is frozen and not responding to anything. i got prompted "would you like to upgrade to saucy" and clicked yes and then it told me to shut off all programs and i did and then it's been running for like an hour and it got stuck at "installing upgrades" or something like that (i can't read now cause the window is all gray). what do i do?
[12:55] <grul> should i just kill it and try again? i'm just afraid i'll break something
[12:55] <grul> or is there a way to see what it's stuck on?
[12:55] <OerHeks> grul,  if caps-lock does not respond a light, hit alt+tab to see if a hidden dialog is waiting,
[12:56] <OerHeks> if not, the upgrade has crashed.
[12:56] <grul> there's no other window open
[12:56] <grul> i move it around to look behind it :)
[12:56] <grul> but nothing
[12:57] <grul> ok but if i kill it, what do i do next? can i restart it somehow?
[12:58] <OerHeks> grul, you should be able to start again, AFAIK
[12:59] <grul> ok, i guess i'll try. thanks for helping
[13:03] <olf-folks> i am running ubuntu and i want to start learning c  any suggestions on where to start?
[13:05] <ramadhan> PIng !!
[13:05] <ramadhan> hello
[13:05] <ramadhan> anyone here can teach me how to use aircrack-ng ??
[13:05] <ramadhan> i wanna learn it, cuz i have task from my school before i learn about it in school
[13:06] <olf-folks> i have gcc but i was wanting something a bit nicer for compileing?
[13:06] <mn3monic> 4 days ago I installed Xubuntu on my girlfriend netbook, she loved it until she realized that youtube has become unusable. Thank Adobe now she wants Windows XP back.
[13:06] <olf-folks> ramadhan: i may be able to show you some basics but google is where i learned.
[13:06] <olf-folks> ramadhan: hello
[13:06] <bekks> olf-folks: Nicer than a compiler? A compiler is a compiler. Most likely, you want an IDE for programming.
[13:06] <bekks> olf-folks: The compiler stays the same.
[13:06] <olf-folks> mn3monic: 1 what browser are you useing
[13:07] <mn3monic> olf-folks, both chrome and firefox are unusable, I have to admit
[13:07] <mn3monic> I use youtube-dl with mplayer to watch stuff from youtube
[13:07] <usersdsdsd> hello to all :)
[13:07] <ramadhan> olf-folks: yes but, i can't give question when i confuse about something i learn *Sorry my english is bad
[13:07] <usersdsdsd> how can i install some driver in ubuntu
[13:07] <mn3monic> adobe flash player plugin is unusable on Linux and she's right
[13:07] <usersdsdsd> but from console?
[13:07] <olf-folks> mn3monic: have  you tryed sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[13:07] <bekks> mn3monic: Install Google Chrome, it ships with a current Flash version.
[13:07] <usersdsdsd> i mean i wanna test some drivers..?
[13:08] <mathfreak_> usersdsdsd: Drivers are usually modules. You can use insmod to install drivers that are not in /lib/
[13:08] <mathfreak_> usersdsdsd: Usually, you'll have to rmmod the currently loaded driver for the device you're testing.
[13:09] <olf-folks> ramadhan: the op will get mad if we talk here about off topic stuff i can join ubuntu-offtopic to help tho
[13:09] <mathfreak_> usersdsdsd: Only link in modules that you trust! Modules have the same privileges as kernel code, so be careful.
[13:09] <usersdsdsd> mathfreak: ok 10x !!!!! :)))))))
[13:10] <ramadhan> olf-folks: i'm so sorry
[13:10] <olf-folks> ramadhan: come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:11] <bunduru> hello
[13:11] <ramadhan> yes B|
[13:12] <olf-folks> bekks: an IDE? whats a good one? im useing openbox if it matters
[13:13] <colonolGron> hi, i want to install linux on my macbook pro retina. does anybody have experience with that? any issues or problems i should be aware of?
[13:13] <bekks> olf-folks: The text editor of your choice, eclipse, netbeans, gvim, etc.
[13:13] <mathfreak_> olf-folks: You're opinion. You can start out by testing eclipse and NetBeans
[13:14] <bunduru> i'm having problem with wifi interface it detects my network but it doesnt connect, yesterday i was having the same problem it started working during reboots i didnt do anything, but today isn't working again
[13:16] <tinlee> hi any1
[13:17] <olf-folks> bekks: mathfreak_  well i just did the hello world i wrote it in vim and i liked the synax highlighting
[13:17] <Jonezey> Hi
[13:18] <Jonezey> Hi
[13:18] <Kartagis> somebody ping me real quick
[13:18] <nightmare365> hi guys i cant get to start unity even after unity --reset-icons and dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[13:18] <tinlee> i use gedit,when i Input chinese then it drop out
[13:18] <nightmare365> how can i get unity back up again
[13:19] <Jonezey> Hi
[13:19] <Jonezey> How do I make a live ubuntu USB?
[13:20] <mathfreak_> Jonezey: Download the Ubuntu image you want to use. Use "Startup Disk Creator" to create the USB
[13:20] <DJones> !usb | Jonezey
[13:21] <Jonezey> Thanks Mathfreak
[13:21] <Jonezey> Lol nice bot
[13:21] <Jonezey> Hello ubottu
[13:21] <bunduru> LOL it is now working.. crazy stuff
[13:21] <mathfreak_> tinlee: What do you mean by "drop out"?
[13:21] <Jonezey> Wow, Sky broadband
[13:21] <bunduru> i don't understand this crap
[13:21] <Jonezey> Realy.
[13:22] <tinlee> mathfreak closed
[13:22] <Jonezey> Which is better for a PC with an i7 Quadcore 35770 and 16GBS of RAM: Ubuntu 12.04 x64 or 13.whatever?
[13:23] <bekks> Jonezey: If you ask like that: 12.04
[13:23] <Jonezey> k
[13:23] <friday_> Jonezey, 12.10 or 12.04
[13:23] <DJones> Jonezey: There isn't a best, its what suits you best, what works for you
[13:23] <Jonezey> Does anyone know how to brind up the terminal quickly?
[13:23] <Jonezey> Without having to go into the search
[13:24] <mathfreak_> tinlee: You mean gedit crashes when you input Chinese? Can you start gedit from a terminal and try inputting Chinese? What error messages get printed to the terminal when gedit crashes?
[13:24] <DJones> Jonezey: Ctrl, Alt + t
[13:24] <auronandace> Jonezey: pin it to the launch bar
[13:24] <Jonezey> Well NO SHIT auro
[13:24] <tinlee> i try it
[13:24] <Jonezey> But is there a hotkey(s) to get to it?
[13:25] <tpw_rules> i'm having weird issues wtih xrdp. it always seems to think the ctrl key is pressed. for example, in terminal, if i press 'h' it hides everything
[13:25] <mathfreak_> !language | Jonezey
[13:25] <Jonezey> !language
[13:25] <auronandace> Jonezey: DJones just told you
[13:25] <Jonezey> Oh, I didnt see it
[13:25] <Jonezey> Thnx DJones
[13:27] <Jonezey> Fuck
[13:27] <DJones> Jonezey: Stop swearing
[13:27] <DJones> Jonezey: Its not needed and not appropriate for the Ubuntu channels
[13:27] <Jonezey> Why? What you gonna do if I swear
[13:27] <DJones> That
[13:27] <tpw_rules> hehe
[13:28] <Jonezey> Nice bot
[13:28] <tpw_rules> so in xrdp, my 'd' key seems to always hide all my windows so i can't type anything
[13:28] <Jonezey> Your D hides everything.
[13:28] <DJones> Jonezey: That wasn't a bot
[13:28] <kN____> DJones, you there?
[13:28] <Jonezey> Supprised you can see the D
[13:28] <olf-folks> djones he may have torrents i mean tourettes
[13:28] <IdleOne> Jonezey: please don't make us have to ban you. Follow the channel guidelines and there won't be any problems
[13:29] <DJones> !guidelines | Jonezey
[13:29] <Jonezey> Really Olf-folks
[13:29] <auronandace> Jonezey: anything else we can help with?
[13:29] <Jonezey> Yeah
[13:29] <ihre> I've had several kernel panics lately, yet I'm not sure where to start.. I'm running Ubuntu amd64 12.04.03, http://dpaste.com/1469078/
[13:29] <Jonezey> What will happen if I delete my Casper file?
[13:29] <Jonezey> Just out of interest
[13:29] <kN____> your PC is gonna explode.
[13:29] <Jonezey> Wow
[13:30] <Jonezey> I am not a noob
[13:30] <kN____> I'm serious.
[13:30] <Jonezey> Software can't physicaly damage your PC
[13:30] <auronandace> Jonezey: i think casper is only used for the livecd
[13:30] <tpw_rules> yes it can
[13:30] <Jonezey> Yeah, it can fry it
[13:30] <Jonezey> Thats about it
[13:30]  * tpw_rules is gonna need to put a 'd' in his paste buffer
[13:30] <tinlee> (gedit:18331): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to 'GObject'
[13:31] <tinlee> (gedit:18331): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_simple_async_result_new: assertion '!source_object || G_IS_OBJECT (source_object)' failed
[13:31] <tinlee> (gedit:18331): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_simple_async_result_set_op_res_gpointer: assertion 'G_IS_SIMPLE_ASYNC_RESULT (simple)' failed
[13:31] <tinlee> (gedit:18331): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[13:31] <tinlee> 段错误 (核心已转储)
[13:31] <tinlee> tinlee@tinlee-Aspire-4741:/var/www$
[13:31] <FloodBot1> tinlee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <tinlee> tinlee@tinlee-Aspire-4741:/var/www$ gedit qq.php
[13:31] <Jonezey> Message1
[13:31] <Jonezey> Message2
[13:31] <Jonezey> Message1
[13:31] <Jonezey> Message2
[13:31] <Jonezey> Message1
[13:31] <Jonezey> Message2
[13:31] <Jonezey> Message1
[13:31] <FloodBot1> Jonezey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <Jonezey> Owned
[13:32] <Jonezey> Get
[13:32] <Jonezey> Owned
[13:32] <Jonezey> Get
[13:32] <Jonezey> Owned
[13:32] <FloodBot1> Jonezey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <Jonezey> Get
 (gedit:18331): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to 'GObject'
[13:32] <tinlee> (gedit:18331): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_simple_async_result_new: assertion '!source_object || G_IS_OBJECT (source_object)' failed
[13:32] <tinlee> (gedit:18331): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_simple_async_result_set_op_res_gpointer: assertion 'G_IS_SIMPLE_ASYNC_RESULT (simple)' failed
[13:32] <tinlee> (gedit:18331): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[13:33] <auronandace> tinlee: use a pastebin
[13:34] <mathfreak_> !pastebin | tinlee
[13:35] <tinlee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6431890/
[13:35] <ihre> is there a logical procedure for investigating kernel panics/
[13:36] <auronandace> !gksudo | tinlee
[13:39] <mathfreak_> tinlee: Hmm.. Not sure about those GLib-GObject errors. They could be the reason why gedit's crashing on you, but I don't know much else about the programming aspect behind it.
[13:41] <mathfreak_> tinlee: You might have some luck asking about those errors over at #glibc
[13:41] <tinlee> thanks
[13:41] <OerHeks> those errors are just messages, anybody get them when they open gedit from terminal
[13:42] <tinlee> i use ultraedit now
[13:42] <mathfreak_> ihre: You could ask around in ##kernel. Might take a while to get your question answered, though.
[13:45] <ramadhan> ping olf-folks
[13:46] <mathfreak_> 55 second ping from olf-folks
[13:47] <tt10> i need to know what alternate to vmware is used in ubuntu
[13:47] <auronandace> tt10: virtualbox and qemu are alternatives
[13:47] <tt10> thanks
[13:48] <Nitin144> problem help
[13:48] <Nitin144> no dns is found
[13:48] <Nitin144> no dns file is found
[13:48] <tt10> one more question. can i use vnware also?
[13:48] <auronandace> !vmware | tt10
[13:48] <mathfreak_> Nitin144: Is this for your phone or for your laptop?
[13:48] <Nitin144> laptop
[13:49] <Nitin144> i have a wired connection and using it as hotspot
[13:49] <Shinobi> Is this still applicable to 12.04? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate
[13:49] <Nitin144> my phone browser is showing no dns server found
[13:50] <auronandace> Shinobi: look near the bottom under the title hibernated disabled by default
[13:50] <Nitin144> friends what to do?
[13:52] <mathfreak_> Nitin144: need more information. Can you click on the connection icon and check "Connection Information"?
[13:52] <Nitin144> yaah
[13:52] <impradeepy> ssup guys?
[13:52] <Nitin144> there dns is not showing
[13:52] <Nitin144> in wireless
[13:53] <Shinobi> auronandace: Thanks.
[13:54] <oliver_> hi
[13:54] <naz> hey oliver
[13:54] <oliver_> haha, it works :D
[13:54] <mathfreak_> Nitin144: If you click "Edit Connections" in the menu from the connection icon again, you can look at the settings for your connection. Double-check to make sure that "Automatic (DHCP)" is selected.
[13:55] <hans_henrik> upgrading an ancient 10.04LTS to 12.04, and i got this; https://mediacru.sh/e5PXpCo1g3Q7
[13:55] <hans_henrik> should i be worried? :p
[13:55] <naz> hans if you are looking for  a productive working os I would suggest looking at windows or mac
[13:55] <oliver_> what is this chat for?
[13:56] <Nitin144> fun
[13:56] <naz> you are begging for trouble when you update/upgrade ubuntu
[13:56] <liquid-silence> hi all
[13:56] <Nitin144> mathfreak: yes
[13:56] <auronandace> hans_henrik: something wrong with the fonts in that dialog
[13:56] <naz> hey liquid
[13:56] <oliver_> i was hoping i didnt join a help chat
[13:56] <liquid-silence> how can I give a user upstart permissions currently I get unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[13:56] <Nitin144> naz; hey solid
[13:56] <auronandace> oliver_: this is a support channel for ubuntu issues
[13:56] <liquid-silence> but as root I can upstart fine
[13:57] <oliver_> ohh
[13:57] <oliver_> i just found xchat on my computer, was wondering what it did..
[13:57] <auronandace> oliver_: xchat is an irc client
[13:58] <naz> here is a not so relevant support question, nvidia did not support linux now they do and because of this you can't dual monitor unless u you want the wrong monitor as the main why is this?
[13:59] <oliver_> how to do uninstall  software updater without it removing everything else?
[13:59] <auronandace> oliver_: why would you want to do that?
[14:00] <oliver_> i want to do it by hand (through the terminal) but it keeps doing it for me :(
[14:00] <Ampelbein> oliver_: You can disable automatic updates
[14:01] <oliver_> i guess that will do
[14:01] <oliver_> thank you :D
[14:01] <naz> oliver_: if you disable automatic updates then you will not receive ubuntus latest malware to spy its not recommended
[14:01] <oliver_> sudo apt-get update/upgrade?
[14:02] <mathfreak_> oliver_: Yeah, that's what I'd do on a new ubuntu system to update and upgrade packages.
[14:02] <carlex> oliver_: you'll miss the important security updates if you disable automatic updates.
[14:02] <mathfreak_> oliver_: I personally prefer to use aptitude, but apt-get is good enough
[14:02] <auronandace> you'll need to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade if you want to install updates for kernels too
[14:03] <oliver_> ive just install xubuntu, but i didnt use the updater. i just did it through the terminal..
[14:03] <wolfgang_> sam113101, sam please check the seperate window I opened with you.
[14:03] <oliver_> update/upgrade/dist-upgrade <- thats the ones?
[14:04] <mathfreak_> oliver_: update/dist-upgrade should be all you need
[14:04] <auronandace> oliver_: yes
[14:04] <mathfreak_> oliver_: sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:04] <oliver_> ahh, thats great :D
[14:04] <lalala_ooops> if u say wine is life,i can't agree more
[14:05] <mao> wine is just a soft.
[14:06] <lalala_ooops> i need help in this  http://24.media.tumblr.com/b670e7a8a857d81444178dd1a8f692a9/tumblr_mp3mdov4aJ1sungpao1_1280.jpg
[14:06] <oliver_> while im here though... i wrote a script that every minute it checks the time, and if the minute was less than 30, the last digit of my password was 1, and 30 if it wasnt
[14:06] <oliver_> but i dont know how to put it in hash?
[14:06] <Myrtti> naz: it would be super if you could actually give useful and helpful advice.
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> naz  malware in ubuntu? how exciting! source of information?
[14:08] <naz> Myrtti, will do
[14:09] <anonymous_> @all master, can U help me
[14:09] <naz> MonkeyDust anything that takes your data and gives it to third parties is kinda considered malicious am I wrong?
[14:09] <anonymous_> how to find a lost blackberry?
[14:09] <anonymous_> I lost my blackberry
[14:09] <anonymous_> Can you help me?
[14:09] <OerHeks> naz not if it is documented
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> naz  like cookies, you mean?
[14:09] <OerHeks> anonymous_, wrong channel
[14:10] <oliver_> play store for android tracks your phone..
[14:10] <anonymous_> sorry I think U can
[14:10] <TauNeutrino> hey penguin lovers
[14:10] <TauNeutrino> I just backed a chesscake
[14:10] <TauNeutrino> what now??
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> anonymous_  how is your blackberry ubuntu related?
[14:11] <naz> By documented do you mean the software lets you know what they are giving out?
[14:11] <mathfreak_> oliver_, naz, MonkeyDust: #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:11] <naz> ty math
[14:12] <anonymous_> I was dizzy because my data is important in the blackberry, there banyk my writing books about ubuntu
[14:12] <oliver_> ok then. How do you change a password that already been hashed or something
[14:14] <stormchaser3000> hi
[14:14] <_munti> oliver_:  run the passwd command from the terminal to change your own user password.
[14:14] <anonymous_> @all_ whether there is spyware on ubuntu 12 ?
[14:14] <oliver_> but from a script..
[14:14] <mao> did there   anyone  play  dota2  ????
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> mao  not in this channel
[14:16] <mathfreak_> anonymous_: Technically, there is no spyware in Ubuntu at all, but the Amazon fiasco in Unity does send some of your search data to Amazon's servers.
[14:17] <foofoobar> Hi. When doing apt-get update I always get this: http://pastebin.com/XVbgfzz1
[14:17] <mao> MonkeyDust,  i  just want know  is someone   like linux and dota2  , just like me ...
[14:17] <mathfreak_> anonymous_: In the recent Ubuntu releases, there's a switch in your settings that you can toggle to disable sending your search data out. Ubuntu 12.10 can disable this entirely by removing the relevant amazon package (package name escapes me currently)
[14:17] <mathfreak_> anonymous_: Ubuntu 12.04 and earlier does not include the Amazon Shopping Lens
[14:18] <vegombrei> exit
[14:18] <vegombrei> quit
[14:18] <foofoobar> THis is my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/QRpmPy25
[14:18] <anonymous_> Thanks for U'r information, means ubtuntu 12 safe!!
[14:18] <oliver_> how do you get the ubuntus lock screen?
[14:19] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> i thank god every day that 9/11 was a controlled demolition.  the people of the world deserve to be ruled and lorded over by people smarter than themselves
[14:19] <Ampelbein> foofoobar: Remove the duplicate spotify entry from there. And check in /etc/apt/sources.list.d for google entries.
[14:20] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> it gives me peace knowing that you're all subject to us
[14:21] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> go ahead, tell me what a tyrant i am, or how you're such a "patriot" who's interested in "freedom"
[14:21] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> You exist for my enjoyment.  You are my toy.
[14:21] <oliver_> oh.. software center crashed..
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> fe3Fxrf34Fj  stop
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:22] <paulus68_1> fe3Fxrf34Fj: do you have a support question if not take your business to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:22] <impradeepy> contact to police
[14:23] <LjL> paulus68_1: or, not. since that wouldn't really appropriate there, either
[14:23] <SoberLife> anyone ever patched ipw2200 for aircrack-ng?
[14:24] <paulus68_1> LjL: ok fair enough
[14:25] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> you people belong in complexes removed from society, and you ought to spend your days toiling
[14:25] <LjL> !ops | fe3Fxrf34Fj
[14:25] <paulus68_1> LjL: as long as he stops
[14:25] <LjL> paulus68_1: well moving the problem to a different channel is not "stopping", though
[14:26] <paulus68_1> LjL: true
[14:27] <anonymous_> ask, how to use torchat ?
[14:27] <bunduru> i'm having problem with wifi interface it detects my network but it doesnt connect, yesterday i was having the same problem it started working during reboots i didnt do anything, but today isn't working again
[14:27] <impradeepy> Soberlife my device does not support monitor mode
[14:27] <Myrtti> fe3Fxrf34Fj: thank you for your participation in the discussion. This channel isn't suitable for it however. If you have support issues or problems with your Ubuntu, feel free to pop into #ubuntu-ops to discuss your muting and how to be able to get help from this channel again.
[14:28] <edgy> Hi, apache reload shows apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 1.2.3.4 for ServerName, where shall I set the fqdn in ubuntu?
[14:28] <bunduru> just now it was working unplugged te power moved the computer plugged back, turned on and no wifi connection
[14:29] <edgy> bunduru: check the dmesg output
[14:29] <SoberLife> impradeeply, I can get my device to support monitor mode. Just won't inject for the fake authentication when cracking WEP
[14:29] <edgy> bunduru: or try to disable 11n
[14:29] <SoberLife> There's people that say that patching the ipw2200 can be done
[14:29] <SoberLife> I'm having trouble finding a matching driver/patch set for this card
[14:30] <SoberLife> all the official aircrack-ng links are dead
[14:30] <impradeepy> soberlife u using bt5?
[14:30] <SoberLife> loaded aircrack-ng and reaver in ubuntu
[14:30] <SoberLife> bt5 had driver issues also
[14:31] <impradeepy> ur device too did not support monitor mode
[14:31] <SoberLife> when I ifconfig it says monitor mode
[14:32] <SoberLife> I can collect data from the APs, just no injection for lack of a patched driver
[14:33] <impradeepy> post ur mode managed
[14:33] <impradeepy> or sudo ifconfig wlan0 mode monitor
[14:34] <SoberLife> my wireless device is listed under eth1
[14:34] <Kalel> Greetings..
[14:34] <bunduru> edgy dmesg you say ok.. i'm bringing back the pc to my room
[14:35] <Kalel> Is safe I upgrade 13.04 to 13.04? Rather do a clean installation?
[14:35] <impradeepy> lol he left
[14:36] <bunduru> it is weird because sometimes it just wont connect it stays there "connecting" but it doesnt
[14:36] <daftykins> Kalel: do you mean 13.04 -> 13.10?
[14:36] <impradeepy> clean install
[14:37] <bunduru> edgy what to look for in here?
[14:37] <Kalel> daftykins: Heh.. Yes.
[14:37] <emash> hello everyone please help me! 12.04 won't connect to any wifi, says autif. failed.
[14:38] <impradeepy> emash post ur output
[14:38] <daftykins> Kalel: usual approach applies, backup your data - i personally don't like upgrades, i like fresh all the way :D
[14:38] <impradeepy> pastebin.ubuntu.com
[14:39] <narcos> Hi all. I'm having a bad time trying to get .htaccess restriction on my Ubuntu box. This is the error I'm getting, as well as the config changes - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=4AQzyegC
[14:40] <Kalel>  daftykins I see. I like to do clean and fresh. I would like to save time and lots installed programs..
[14:40] <emash> can't post, right now, it was fine when i checked last time. it's my girlfriendd who calls me and says it won't connect
[14:40] <daftykins> Kalel: if you backup, you can upgrade and see how it goes - then either fix any issues that come up or give in and reinstall :) nothing but time lost.
[14:40] <impradeepy> emash big lol
[14:40] <emash> it works at my home at least, but won't connect to wpa2 networks
[14:41] <daftykins> emash: try the guest login after a reboot
[14:41] <emash> why it can help?
[14:41] <varunendra> emash, do you remember at least the brand of the card? Broadcom?
[14:41] <daftykins> emash: it's worth a try.
[14:41] <bunduru> does this sound bad? "...ath: phy0: Failed to stop TX DMA..."
[14:42] <impradeepy> emash nly for wpa2?
[14:43] <bunduru> ... it just stays there trying to coonect then asks for password again, over and over
[14:43] <liquid-silence> can ubuntu run upstart scripts as a user?
[14:44] <emash> don't know exactly, i have wpa2 and it worked ooh, i mean right after install so i didn't bother to do anything
[14:44] <impradeepy> emash hard reset ur hardwares
[14:44] <liquid-silence> Myrtti any ideas?
[14:44] <Myrtti> huhwhat?
[14:44] <Myrtti> no.
[14:45] <Myrtti> no ideas
[14:45] <liquid-silence> ah ok
[14:45] <liquid-silence> time to move to arch then
[14:45] <liquid-silence> cheers ubuntu guys
[14:45] <impradeepy> remove ur battery n unplug everything ,then press power button for 10-20secs
[14:45] <emash> how to hard reset the hardware?
[14:45] <emash> i can't hard reset a wifi at mcdonalds and other places
[14:46] <Myrtti> liquid-silence: just because I don't know doesn't mean it's not possible
[14:46] <liquid-silence> ubuntu is pissing me off either way
[14:46] <liquid-silence> they change so much crap
[14:46] <TauNeutrino> eww mc donalds
[14:46] <daftykins> liquid-silence: careful with your language please
[14:46] <impradeepy> u dun need to do it again and again
[14:47] <liquid-silence> daftykins ok :)
[14:49] <stormchaser3000> hi
[14:49] <daftykins> greetings
[14:49] <stormchaser3000> i need help with -rm command
[14:49] <stormchaser3000> i need to remove a folder that is owned by root
[14:49] <daftykins> please describe what you're trying to do and what's going wrong
[14:49] <daftykins> which folder is this? sounds a little worrying :)
[14:50] <stormchaser3000> ok i did sudo -rm -f (path to folder)
[14:50] <stormchaser3000> a game i put on there and tried to compile
[14:50] <impradeepy> dun try to delete neything unless u 100% sure bout
[14:50] <bunduru> support?
[14:51] <stormchaser3000> administrator@d610:~/minetest-classic-minetest-classic$ sudo -rm -f ~/administrstor/minetest-classic-minetest-classic
[14:52] <padrino> What happens when the RAM reaches full? Atm it's 431mb/3.84GB
[14:52] <padrino> What happens when it gets to 3.84gb/3.84gb
[14:52] <daftykins> stormchaser3000: yeah you don't need hyphens. those are only for switches after the initial command, so what you want is "sudo rmdir -r /path/to/delete"
[14:52] <daftykins> padrino: swap gets used.
[14:52] <stormchaser3000> oh ok thanks
[14:52] <impradeepy> nice daftykins
[14:53] <mathfreak_> padrino: The kernel will start swapping out memory pages to swap partitions/files on disk
[14:53] <padrino> Is it a bad thing if it gets full?
[14:53] <daftykins> padrino: see www.linuxatemyram.com
[14:53] <k1l_> padrino: its starts using swap, which will be slow the system down.
[14:53] <bunduru> i'm having problem with wifi interface it detects my network but it doesnt connect, yesterday i was having the same problem it started working during reboots i didnt do anything, but today isn't working again... should i try different drivers or something?
[14:53] <k1l_> padrino: or its starts killing not used processes to free ram.
[14:54] <padrino> alright thanks
[14:54] <stormchaser3000> it didn' work
[14:54] <stormchaser3000> i us an old version of ubuntu
[14:54] <mathfreak_> padrino: If no swap space is available, the kernel will force kill some processes
[14:54] <stormchaser3000> lucid 10.04
[14:55] <orange-thingy> hiii
[14:55] <k1l_> stormchaser3000: its not -rm its "rm" without the minus in front. and be aware, that 10.04 is out of support for the desktop
[14:55] <daftykins> stormchaser3000: can you use paste.ubuntu.com to show me what you entered and what you got?
[14:55] <daftykins> k1l_: already covered this ty
[14:56] <k1l_> daftykins: alright, go ahead
[14:56] <bunduru> any good drivers for d-link DWA-547?
[14:56] <orange-thingy> ive got 4 computers, all using ubuntu
[14:56] <orange-thingy> how could i link them?
[14:57] <padrino> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-171113-144815.php Anybody know why that says to close it? Doesn't work when I click close
[14:57] <_munti> bunduru: try installing ndiswrapper and you may use the Window$ driver for your wireless device.
[14:58] <mathfreak_> orange-thingy: In what way do you want them to link?
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[14:58] <lalala_ooops> Hi bl_eyed_g
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[14:58] <FloodBot1> lalala_ooops: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:58] <lalala_ooops> Hi allnkd
[14:58] <orange-thingy> have a link account i mean, same password?
[14:58] <orange-thingy> i know how to sync the files.. ish
[14:59] <DJones> lalala_ooops: Do you have any Ubuntu support issues or are you spamming the channel
[15:00] <padrino> I have issue :p
[15:00] <padrino> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-171113-144815.php Anybody know why that says to close it? Doesn't work when I click clos
[15:01] <bunduru> _munti thanks i'll look into it because this --> samon@194-118-240-155.adsl.highway.telekom.at) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
 bunduru: try installing ndiswrappe <-- isnt true.. kind of works it isnt ok
[15:01] <bunduru> oops sorry i meant..
[15:02] <bunduru> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink
[15:02] <stormchaser3000> ok i will use pastebin
[15:03] <mathfreak_> orange-thingy: I still don't quite understand. Are you saying that you would like for your 4 computers to have the same /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files?
[15:03] <padrino> Anybody know how to kill a program in Linux?
[15:03] <mathfreak_> orange-thingy: If my understanding of those two files are correct, those two files are the ones used for logging in users
[15:03] <mathfreak_> padrino: use the kill command
[15:03] <varunendra> bunduru, are you having problems with that adapter?
[15:04] <orange-thingy> ohh, what does /etc/shadow do?
[15:04] <mathfreak_> padrino: If you need to kill an uninterruptible process, use kill -9
[15:04] <mathfreak_> orange-thingy: /etc/shadow holds the hashed versions of user passwords.
[15:04] <Ubuntivity> Hello. I have an Ispiron 1545, on the LiveUSB 11.04 I can use the restricted wireless driver, but I cannot select it after installation, so how can I fix that?
[15:04] <bunduru> sounds a bit complex.. do i have to uninstall these drivers first?
[15:05] <padrino> mathfreak_ I just used kill command and it's still not closed?
[15:05] <orange-thingy> so if i synced the files (from the main computer) all the users would be the same? And if i created a new one, it too would be created?
[15:05] <bunduru> varunendra yes i am =/
[15:05] <mathfreak_> padrino: Sounds like the process is in uninterruptible sleep (AKA, normal kill doesn't work). Try using kill with the -9 option
[15:06] <bunduru> it only works when it wants
[15:06] <varunendra> bunduru, ath9k? Ubuntu and kernel version?
[15:07] <mathfreak_> padrino: Normally, you want to just use kill (no options), so that it gives the process a chance to clean up after itself (graceful quit). kill -9 can get messy because it doesn't give the process a chance to clean up after itself (but if there's no other choice, you gotta use kill -9)
[15:07] <juniour> can't able to transfer files with scp???
[15:07] <padrino> Well idk, because the program has not froze altogether
[15:08] <padrino> oh, it's done it now
[15:08] <padrino> Thanks
[15:08] <mathfreak_> padrino: Out of curiosity, which application did you have to kill?
[15:08] <padrino> mathfreak_ zImageZ
[15:09] <juniour> scp filename host@ip its not transferring file plz help
[15:09] <mathfreak_> padrino: Ah. I've heard of it, but only in the context of screenshots with xfce. I thought it was just an image hosting website.
[15:09] <bunduru> varunendra yes i think so lspci says "kernel driver in use: ath9k"
[15:10] <padrino> mathfreak_ yeah it's an image hosting site but also is a program which allows screenshots with rapid uploading. Similar to Gyazo for Window
[15:10] <mathfreak_> padrino: sounds interesting. I'll have to look into more of it later (don't want to spam up the channel)
[15:11] <edgy> bunduru: look for errors
[15:11] <mathfreak_> juniour: Do you have an ssh server installed on your remote machine? Got your ports forwarded on your router and the right port opened up on the remote machine's firewall?
[15:11] <bunduru> varunendra linux version is Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[15:12] <juniour> mathfreak_ yep i can remotely login but cant transfer files
[15:12] <bunduru> this Ndiswrapper thing look complex
[15:13] <varunendra> bunduru, this driver seems to have suffered some regressions since kernel 3.5 or 3.8. Many people have reported it to work nicely again on kernel 3.11 and later. So you may try either a newer driver if you are not already on the latest kernel, or, fall back to 3.2 kernel (probably the worst advice, but a well tested solution for this driver)
[15:14] <mathfreak_> varunendra: What's wrong with kernel 3.2?
[15:14] <bunduru> my kernel looks like it is 3.8
[15:14] <mathfreak_> juniour: Do any sort of error messages pop up when you use scp?
[15:14] <varunendra> mathfreak_, nothing, just an older version which may cause compatibility problems with newer packages
[15:15] <juniour> mathfreak_ no error message
[15:15] <bunduru> varunendra should i update to a newer kernel or try the Ndiswrapper thing?
[15:15] <varunendra> mathfreak_, bunduru I am myself still on kernel 3.2.0-36, happily holding myself back from upgrading
[15:17] <varunendra> bunduru, in my experience, ndiswrapper never works better than a working native driver. But my experience can't be considered an 'Expert advice' ;)
[15:17] <mathfreak_> juniour: Try running the scp command, but add in the -v flag to increase verbosity
[15:17] <varunendra> bunduru, you may try to compile the latest backported driver.
[15:18] <bunduru> what does that mean =P
[15:18] <mathfreak_> varunendra, bunduru: I find that if you have no need for a specific feature in a newer kernel, running an older, longterm, stable kernels is fantastic (3.2 user myself as well)
[15:18] <bunduru> sorry but i'm limited =P
[15:19] <andrerics> Hi! I installed Ubuntu 13.10 along with Windows 8.1 and when I executed boot-repair, Windows 8.1 does not appear at GRUB. Can you help me?
[15:19] <varunendra> bunduru, before suggesting further, I'd like to see a detailed diagnostics report. Please follow the instructions in this post to generate and pastebin the report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[15:19] <bunduru> ok
[15:19] <bunduru> i'm on it
[15:20] <nobodyy> :D
[15:20] <juniour> mathfreak_ why i got this juniour@juniour:~$ sftp root@192.168.2.45 root@192.168.2.45's password: *******  Received message too long 538976288
[15:20] <juniour> any clue
[15:20] <juniour> ?
[15:20] <nobodyy> the message is too long..
[15:20] <bunduru> mmm i guess i could use wired connection for this
[15:21] <mathfreak_> juniour: To the web search engines!
[15:21] <juniour> heeeeeeeeeeee
[15:24] <impradeepy> ssup guys?
[15:25] <juniour> yea sftp working but scp not working
[15:25] <impradeepy> ok
[15:26] <mathfreak_> juniour: These seem relevant: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/61580/sftp-gives-an-error-received-message-too-long-and-what-is-the-reason
[15:26] <k1l_> juniour: its easier to evaluate why, when you give more details like errormessages etc
[15:26] <juniour> mathfreak_ yea too long message solved :)
[15:26] <mathfreak_> juniour: Cool. What did you do that solved the problem?
[15:27] <padrino> Will installing Ubuntu alongside Windows make my computer any slower when running one of the two?
[15:27] <nobodyy> mine was quicker..
[15:27] <juniour> mathfreak_ i have given some message at login so desabled it
[15:27] <nobodyy> well, with ubuntu.. Windows was still slow as normal
[15:27] <juniour> mathfreak_ check this one http://hackaholic.info/add-message-to-your-terminal/
[15:27] <mathfreak_> padrino: No, it'll just mean you have less available space for either system. Performance should be fine.
[15:28] <mathfreak_> juniour: Yeah, that'll do it. Pretty cool stuff. Thanks!
[15:29] <stormchaser3000> nvm
[15:29] <padrino> mathfreak_ in that case, to keep storage space, is it possible to install Ubuntu to an external hard drive?
[15:29] <padrino> And use the external as a C: drive
[15:29] <nobodyy> padrino: its a lot slower through usb
[15:30] <juniour> mathfreak_ that is my website :)
[15:31] <padrino> nobodyy I'm booting from USB now as LiveCD and it works fine but I'm not sure if changes etc. will be saved as I'm only on LiveCD
[15:31] <juniour> mathfreak_ check my videos www.youtube.com/juniourkawasakicool and don't forget to subscribe
[15:31] <mathfreak_> padrino: You can, although performance in that case will take a huge hit because you're already taking the slowest part of the computer (hard disk drives) and using it over a slower interface (USB)
[15:33] <nobodyy> i use unetboot for installing linux, its slow but faster than DVD. files did save, but its too slow to use as an everyday computer
[15:34] <bunduru> varunendra -> http://pastebin.com/Qd0J7dQu
[15:35] <varunendra> bunduru, while I take a look, you might wish to download the latest backports package : http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/
[15:35] <bunduru> alright =)
[15:35] <raghavendra> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources
[15:35] <raghavendra>   404  Not Found
[15:35] <raghavendra> Get:7 http://archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates/main i386 Packages [729 kB]
[15:35] <raghavendra> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main i386 Packages
[15:35] <raghavendra>   404  Not Found
[15:35] <FloodBot1> raghavendra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:35] <raghavendra> error show in terminal sudo apt-get update
[15:37] <varunendra> bunduru, which one is your Access Point? One of those using the WPA/WPA2 mixed mode? And are you using N-channel on the router?
[15:37] <nobodyy> i still cant find a desktop environment i like..
[15:37] <bunduru> varunendra yes
[15:37] <bunduru> lan3d
[15:38] <varunendra> bunduru, it is highly recommended to use pure WPA2-PSK (AES/CCMP) in the router. No mixed mode, no TKIP
[15:39] <bunduru> should i grab this one backports-3.12-1?
[15:39] <bunduru> varunendra yeah i know, but this rule is created by the isp
[15:40] <bunduru> if i force it i'll have some problems
[15:40] <AviramH> Hello
[15:40] <varunendra> bunduru, the encryption in the router?
[15:40] <nobodyy> welcome
[15:40] <bunduru> this i tested before =/
[15:40] <bunduru> it is wpa2
[15:41] <AviramH> Thanks, I have a question. I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 and I'm having bugs with running steam, I thought maybe it's my ATI drivers so I thought I'd update. I purged my old ones but I'm not quite sure what's the best way to get the latest drivers..
[15:42] <daftykins> !amd | AviramH
[15:42] <daftykins> !ati | AviramH
[15:42] <varunendra> bunduru, have you tried pure WPA2 with CCMP before? What kind of problems did you face if you did?
[15:43] <olliee> oops
[15:43] <AviramH> daftykins, It says to run the file from ATI's site with --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise or raring
[15:43] <bunduru> varunendra for example if i reboot the router my wifi interface would only work again if i enter the router's page and disable/enable it i guess it is a bug or something
[15:43] <AviramH> Would running it with saucy work?
[15:43] <dimon> exit
[15:44] <bunduru> i called the isp about this they changed the router and the problem is still present
[15:44] <daftykins> AviramH: i would imagine that you'd find some better info googling about AMD drivers and saucy
[15:44] <bunduru> silly right XD
[15:45] <bunduru> (i mean of course the router's wifi)
[15:45] <AviramH> I am googling daftykins but I can't find a good explanation.. What's the difference between changing the option in the system settings to use propriety then getting the file from ATI?
[15:46] <daftykins> AviramH: i would imagine that the Ubuntu source will be updated slower
[15:46] <varunendra> bunduru, 'reboot' .... you mean after setting the encryption to anything other than the WPA/WPA2 mixed mode? That would be weirdest problem I've ever heard of ;)
[15:47] <bunduru> so every time the router reboots or there was a power loss, if i want the wifi to work i'd have to connect through ethernet cable to bring back wireless
[15:47] <bunduru> varunendra i know right
[15:47] <bunduru> XD
[15:47] <bunduru> but indeed happens
[15:48] <daftykins> mixed mode always seems to cause problems under Linux
[15:48] <daftykins> which is then compounded further by very bad drivers for quirky adapters
[15:49] <bunduru> yup if i force it to wpa2 only i'd have this problem
[15:49] <anonymous__> any somebody tell me.. how to deface a website?
[15:49] <bunduru> it is a tg784n (portuguese ISP)
[15:49] <daftykins> anonymous__: of course not :P
[15:49] <BluesKaj> !legal | anonymous__.
[15:50] <esde> ubuntu 12.04.3, when im watching youtube videos and i change quality to 720 or 1080 the video stops streaming entirely. eventually showing an error occurred. i have flash installed, anyone else seen this?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> !illegal | anonymous__.
[15:50] <varunendra> bunduru, okay, this "won't connect with wpa2" problem happens on Ubuntu only or other OSes as well?
[15:50] <olliee> its clever how they deface websites..
[15:51] <Kalel> I have installed in my system the newest 3.11 kernel and I noted some issues, e.g. wi-fi trouble. i would like to install the latest 3.12 kernel. Had anybody installed it? How it runs?
[15:52] <bunduru> varunendra oh maybe i didn't explain well enough.. that happens to the router
[15:52] <padrino> Is it difficult to install Firefox for somebody who has little computer knowledge?
[15:52] <anonymous__> please give-me a link how to deface a website..
[15:52] <esde> bandwidth is not the issue
[15:52] <bunduru> so yes all stations wouldn't be able to connect through wireless
[15:52] <k1l_> padrino: "sudo apt-get install firefox"  or in the softwarecenter search for firefox.
[15:52] <DJones> padrino: Nope, sudo apt-get install firefox <enter> Job done
[15:53] <bunduru> regardless of OS
[15:53] <k1l_> padrino: at least: everyone who can use a iphone can install a programm on ubuntu
[15:53] <talsamon> i don't really understand why everytime there is a kernel-update i had to install the nvidia-driver new... there's running dkms , it should work automatically
[15:53] <DJones> anonymous__ This discussion is not appropriate for Ubuntu channels or the Freenode network
[15:53] <DJones> anonymous__: Do not ask again
[15:53] <padrino> It just says "package Firefox is not available"
[15:53] <k1l_> talsamon: is the nvidia from ubuntu or from the website?
[15:53] <Kalel> I have installed in my system the newest 3.11 kernel and I noted some issues, e.g. wi-fi trouble. i would like to install the latest 3.12 kernel. Had anybody installed it? How it runs?
[15:53] <auronandace> padrino: firefox is installed by default on ubuntu
[15:53] <olliee> padrino have you done sudo apt-get update ?
[15:54] <talsamon> it's the driver from apt nvidia-173
[15:54] <varunendra> bunduru, does it also happen with other encryption types (wep or wpa only)?
[15:54] <k1l_> padrino: please show the command with output in a pastebin
[15:54] <k1l_> talsamon: are the headers installed?
[15:54] <Zap-W> is there a driver for SIS M672 chip on 13.10 ??
[15:54] <porkman1> hmm
[15:54] <padrino> My bad, just realised I was in #Ubuntu :p
[15:54] <padrino> The Q isn't relevant to this channel haha
[15:55] <bunduru> varunendra the problem goes away if i disable/enable wireless on the routers page, but doing this every time the router reboots isn't practical
[15:55] <porkman1> who was talking about next version slackware being ubuntu based ?
[15:55] <porkman1> im trying to find a link
[15:55] <talsamon> k1l_, how to check this....
[15:55] <k1l_> porkman1: that was just trolling. dont mind that
[15:55] <auronandace> porkman1: that sounds ridiculous
[15:55] <Anti-Sleep> heh
[15:56] <porkman1> well thats good
[15:56] <bunduru> so i just gave up and let the mixed mode, because it doesnt cause any problem wifi works normally after reboots/powerdowns
[15:56] <porkman1> distros tend to take ubuntu's work and relabel it
[15:56] <olliee> i dont like the original ubuntu...
[15:56] <DJones> !ot | porkman1
[15:57] <olliee> well, unity
[15:57] <varunendra> bunduru, doesn't sound logical to me, especially since you said it happened with another router as well, but let's move onto other aspects of the problem :)
[15:57] <auronandace> olliee: good thing you don't have to use it
[15:57] <k1l_> porkman1: that was already offtopic yesterday and still is today. please keep this channel clear for real ubuntu support
[15:57] <varunendra> bunduru, does this router have the option to enable/disable N-channel? (b/g only mode)
[15:57] <H4LfoN> need help pme plz
[15:58] <olliee> i like how you can use "ubuntu" but with a different desktop environment, like gnome
[15:58] <porkman1> allliee, yeah, unity is better imo
[15:58] <talsamon> k1l_, linux-headers-generic-3.11.0.13.14 installed. ...i got i work, but don't realy want install nvidia-driver new after every kernel-update
[15:59] <k1l_> olliee: install the metapackage like kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop if you want the whole standard packages, too. or just install the desktop packages like xfce etc
[15:59] <olliee> ive install xubuntu ;)
[15:59] <bunduru> varunendra it actually doesnt lol just checked the page...
[16:00] <H4LfoN> som1 can help me plz
[16:01] <bunduru> varunendra default is "Interface Type: 802.11b/g/n"
[16:01] <bunduru> no option on the page to change that
[16:01] <Geo_> Hello guys, does anyone know if uefi is enough table on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[16:02] <auronandace> !uefi | Geo_
[16:03] <excognac> Geo_: I do have personal experience with it, if you follow the guide above, it sould work fine. unless you have cpu integrated graphics
[16:04] <porkman1> i thought UEFI was for mac only, wouldnt apple get upset ?
[16:04] <excognac> most newer motherboards come with uefi option
[16:04] <daftykins> porkman1: it was a joint intel-apple venture
[16:05] <excognac> furthermore uefi is default on them
[16:05] <varunendra> bunduru, okay, have you tried the old "nohwcrypt=1" trick?
[16:06] <mike7508> anyone who could help me get something installed... having an issue getting r/rutorrent installed  just need to ask a couple quick questions
[16:07] <mike7508> get to the line  svn checkout http://xmlrpc-c.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/xmlrpc-c/stable xmlrpc-c    and it tries to redirect... and freezes... im so lost how to fix this
[16:07] <varunendra> bunduru, that, and if that doesn't help, the steps to compile and install the backported driver : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2173686&p=12785322#post12785322 Just change the directory name in the "cd" command to the one you downloaded (backports-3.12-1)
[16:07] <porkman1> wwhere did you install it?
[16:08] <Geo_> well, I install some of pc at my job with ubuntu 12.04 in uefi. Everytime the first one who poweroff his computer  before to leave, we losing the network connection. I m asking myself if this is not because of that
[16:09] <bunduru> varunendra nohwcrypt=1 trick no i haven't
[16:09] <porkman1> Geo, does he have the latest updates?
[16:09] <bunduru> i cant say that i knew about it =P
[16:09] <mike7508> anyone able to help me get xlmrpc-c installed?
[16:09] <Geo_> porkman1 yes
[16:09] <Kalel> I want install kernel 3.12 and in  the kernel.org webpage, 'daily', I just found for Saucy, my current version is Raring. Can I install without problem?
[16:10] <Esor> I've got a problem I installed ubuntu, nvidia drivers, bumblebee (i got nvidia and intel graphic cards) and after login screen, I have black screen,
[16:10] <varunendra> bunduru, the link I gave tells how to use it temporarily (you'll have to use the 'modeprobe' commands on each boot). To make it permanent, we create a .conf file so that the driver is automatically loaded with that parameter.
[16:12] <bunduru> varunendra cool i'll look in to that nowcrypt thing first then
[16:12] <varunendra> bunduru, you definitely should :)
[16:12] <Kalel> Well, nobody here can give me a damn tip.
[16:13] <bunduru> varunendra thank you so much for the support, i'll have to go out now but when i come back i'll try those 2 options =)
[16:13] <bunduru> i'll give some feedback later
[16:13] <daftykins> Kalel: using that language is unlikely to get some help either ;)
[16:14] <varunendra> bunduru, no problem. Feel free to PM me (on the forums) if you need further help with this. :)
[16:14] <bunduru> ok =) thanks again
[16:14]  * varunendra goes afk for now..
[16:15] <Kalel> daftykins: moralism...
[16:17] <auronandace> Kalel: mixing packages from different releases is a very bad idea, things are likely to break
[16:18] <DrGrov> Hello. Wondering about the Enlightenment 17 package in the official 13.10 repos. Is anyone using that E17 package?
[16:19] <porkman1> is there a way to revert to default fresh install without re-installing?
[16:19] <porkman1> everytime I updated, something breaks :(
[16:20] <starnix> Hello people!!
[16:20] <starnix> ubuntu 13.10 gnome 3.10, lockscreen doesn't work? is there any work-around?
[16:23] <awesomess3> I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 and is there anything wrong with downloading a perl module and installing via: perl Makefile.PL && make && make test && sudo make install?
[16:25] <Quest> hi             $ sudo fsck /dev/sda2       fsck from util-linux 2.20.1       fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[16:26] <daftykins> awesomess3: there's definitely something wrong with still using 10.04 :)
[16:26] <awesomess3> daftykins, true
[16:26] <Esor> I've hybrid Nvidia Intel and after installing bumblebee and nvidia driver on ubuntu 13.10 I have blank screen everytime after login screen
[16:26] <daftykins> Quest: yeah you can't use fsck on a Windows volume, there's a package for disk utilities for NTFS however
[16:26] <Esor> nothing fixes that
[16:27] <Quest> daftykins,  I used to fsck ntfs partitions if i recall correct
[16:27] <Quest> daftykins,  what package?
[16:28] <daftykins> Quest: i don't know off hand, else i'd have named it
[16:28] <Quest> ok
[16:28] <Quest> any one else?
[16:30] <rypervenche> ntfs3g, ntfs-3g, ntfsutils, something like that.
[16:30] <Esor> this is annoying
[16:32] <kaksddkf> Hi all, i am having more than half read and write speed, as compared with windows, on ubuntu 12.04 LTS,  has anyone used paragon NTFS, mentioned here and try that , if tried what performance improvement you gained, take a look at here, http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-linux-per/  i have a slow interent connection and while installing it asks me to installing kernel source, and i have kernel version 3.2.0.64 installed, what version i should install, th
[16:33] <Simooon> Hi, does anyone know what to install to be able to use the fn buttons to turn up and down screen back light on a laptop? It usually works out of the box, but not on this new computer that I bought.
[16:33] <mike7508> can anyone help me get xmlrpc-c installed
[16:33] <porkman1> this might fix it.  apt-get remove $(dpkg --get-selections|grep '\sinstall' | cut -f1| sort -R | head -n 25 | tail -n 1)
[16:33] <Seveas> !ops | porkman1 needs a kicking.
[16:34] <Seveas> so yeah, don't do what porkman1 said. that trashes your ssytem.
[16:34] <k1l_> !danger
[16:34] <Seveas> ta
[16:35] <Seveas> mike7508: do you mean libxmlrpc-core-c3 by any chance?
[16:35] <ollie-> helloo
[16:35] <Quest> hi             $ sudo fsck /dev/sda2       fsck from util-linux 2.20.1       fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[16:36] <Simooon> what is it that porkman1 tries to make people run?
[16:36] <bazhang> dont run it Simooon
[16:36] <daftykins> bad things.
[16:36] <Simooon> I get that ;-)
[16:36] <ollie-> whats it do?
[16:36] <bazhang> super bad stuff
[16:36] <Seveas> kaksddkf: you probably need the kernel-headers package
[16:37] <ollie-> that makes me wanna do it..
[16:37] <mike7508> seveas could i pm ??
[16:37] <Seveas> mike7508: just ask in here...
[16:37] <Simooon> now we'll have to set up a virtual machine and do it, just to find out :-P
[16:37] <mike7508> trying to install rtorrent
[16:37] <mike7508> get to the line svn checkout http://xmlrpc-c.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/xmlrpc-c/stable xmlrpc-c
[16:37] <mike7508> it redirects and then fails
[16:37] <mike7508> so ... im stuck
[16:38] <Seveas> Simooon: it would apt-get remove a random package.
[16:38] <Togusa> Simooon, ollie: it lists the packages you have installed, then it sorts them, then it takes the first 25-something and then it removes them
[16:38] <mike7508> im kind of new  running server 13.10
[16:38] <Togusa> so yeah, it removes some random packages
[16:38] <willie1992> help, i ran what workman said and rebooted, and my system won't boot
[16:38] <Simooon> okay, that is not nice
[16:38] <Seveas> mike7508: just install rtorrent from the ubuntu repos
[16:38] <ollie-> oh that clever!
[16:38] <willie1992> porkman
[16:38] <Seveas> !info rtorrent | mike7508
[16:38] <Togusa> that will probably take down core packages trhasing your system
[16:38] <Porkman> yes?
[16:39] <t0by> Donnie_Darko21, hi :P
[16:39] <AzizLight> Hi everybody
[16:39] <kaksddkf> Seveas: kernel header packages, i think get automatically installed
[16:39] <Seveas> kaksddkf: no, it's not installed by default.
[16:39] <ollie-> how could i look after another laptop.. like, read scripts from host computer..
[16:39] <daftykins> AzizLight: Billy, they are our friends!
[16:39] <ollie-> hmm
[16:39] <ollie-> i could just do autoupdate..
[16:39] <AzizLight> How can I force "more" (the pager) to chop long lines instead of wraping them please?
[16:39] <willie1992> it just goes mount not found
[16:39] <mike7508> seveas thank you i will try it that way
[16:39] <kaksddkf> Seveas: how to check
[16:40] <Seveas> kaksddkf: sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[16:40] <willie1992> ubuntu boots up and says mount not found
[16:40] <kaksddkf> Seveas: they are already installed with same as my kernel version but they are generic
[16:41] <Seveas> kaksddkf: and you're not running the -generic kernel?
[16:41] <ollie-> if i break my linux (often) i just rebuild it.. its too simple
[16:41] <willie1992> all i was trying to do is get nvdia drivers working :(
[16:42] <Togusa> ollie-: it's still not nice to break others system =)
[16:42] <kaksddkf> Seveas: package name is linux-headers-generic-pae version 3.2.0.54.64
[16:42] <Seveas> kaksddkf: that's ancient. Which Ubuntu version are you on?
[16:42] <daftykins> Quest: 'ntfsprogs' is the package
[16:42] <ollie-> they should make a system, that if you break your linux it rebuilds the important parts to get it running again
[16:42] <kaksddkf> ubuntu 12.04.3
[16:42] <ollie-> like in the grub, windows has recovery?
[16:43] <Seveas> hm, what does uname -a say?
[16:43] <stefg> ollie-: It's called backups :-)
[16:43] <Togusa> windows does have a recovery option but it doesn't always work
[16:43] <Seveas> willie1992: boot from a live dvd/usb, chroot into the installed system and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:43] <ollie-> backups, haha
[16:43] <Togusa> with linux you can do pretty awesome stuff
[16:43] <kaksddkf> that's what  uname-a says Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-52-generic-pae #78-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 26 16:43:19 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[16:43] <Togusa> i reinstalled the whole system from scratch on a friend's laptop...remotely, without even formatting it (debootstrap ftw)
[16:44] <Seveas> kaksddkf: so kernel headers and kernel aren't matching. sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[16:44] <ollie-> my friend needed a laptop, so i installed ubuntu and i control it from upstairs :D
[16:44] <willie1992> Seveas, i don't want to lose my mine craft server :|
[16:44] <Quest> daftykins,  Package ntfsprogs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[16:44] <Quest> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[16:44] <Quest> is only available from another source
[16:44] <ollie-> but i would prefer a better way tbh
[16:45] <Seveas> willie1992: unless that apt-get command deleted it, you won't now.
[16:46] <Seveas> !info ntfsprogs-3g
[16:46] <Seveas> !info ntfsprogs
[16:46] <Seveas> hm
[16:46] <willie1992> i shouldn't ran that command:|
[16:46] <Togusa> ollie-: do you just need to access the files on another ubuntu pc?
[16:46] <Seveas> ah, it's ntfs-3g is the name
[16:46] <Seveas> willie1992: well, you should never run commands random stranger on the internet give you unless you understand the commands or for some reason trust the stranger
[16:47] <ollie-> i mean management, ubuntu has a built in one, but thats for loads of computers and you have to pay for it
[16:47] <Togusa> oh i see
[16:47] <ollie-> like schools batch update and batch install?
[16:47] <Togusa> well if you DID run that command
[16:47] <Seveas> ollie-: puppet or chef is what you want
[16:47] <Togusa> don't reboot
[16:47] <kaksddkf> Seveas: this is going to install 3.2.0.52
[16:47] <guest234rf43> can k3b work under live-cd environment
[16:47] <Togusa> you can still restore the packages if you check the dpkg log
[16:47] <Togusa> btw
[16:47] <Togusa> i was wrong
[16:47] <Togusa> it only removes one package
[16:47] <FloodBot1> Togusa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:47] <Seveas> guest234rf43: I don't see why not.
[16:48] <Togusa> (sorry)
[16:48] <Seveas> Togusa: well, if that package is libc6, everything else will be removed as dpendency :)
[16:48] <guest234rf43> Seveas: i only have one blank dvd, so i'd like to be rather certain.  do you think k3b might require the live-dvd disk during burning
[16:48] <LjL> willie1992: what was your nickname before you rebooted, just so i can get up to speed on what the issue was being?
[16:48] <Seveas> though apt will prompt you at least twice in that case, so you have to be rather daft if you fall for it
[16:48] <jrib> willie1992: that command would have either removed a single package or asked you for confirmation to remove several, just look in your logs and reinstall what got removed
[16:48] <Togusa> yeah :P
[16:49] <Seveas> guest234rf43: hmm, yes, you can't eject the live dvd. Boot from a live usb stick :)
[16:49] <kaksddkf> Seveas: did you use http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-linux-per/
[16:49] <guest234rf43> Seveas: can i make a live-dvd stick with k3b
[16:50] <guest234rf43> live-usb stick*
[16:50] <kaksddkf> is it worth to install this software
[16:50] <ollie-> ow thanks, i didnt know there was one
[16:50] <Seveas> guest234rf43: no, you don't need k3b for it, there's a usb boot disk thingy in Ubuntu. I forgot the name, search the wiki :)
[16:50] <Togusa> willie1992: check out /var/log/dpkg.log
[16:51] <Togusa> you can see what you removed if you really ran that command
[16:51] <Seveas> kaksddkf: I haven't needed to use ntfs in ages. And when I did, ntfs-3g worked well for me.
[16:51] <kaksddkf> Seveas: it works for me also, but it is too slow, more than half as compared to window, both in read and write speeeds
[16:52] <kaksddkf> Seveas: i also tried big_writes also
[16:52] <kaksddkf> but no luck
[16:52] <Seveas> kaksddkf: simple solution is to get rid of windows altogether :)
[16:53] <kaksddkf> Seveas: It is not possible, because some programs can only work with windows,
[16:53] <Togusa> oh well
[16:53] <Togusa> i didn't notice willie1992 was porkman1
[16:53] <Seveas> heh
[16:53] <kaksddkf> Seveas: i have a dual boot, although i work most of time on ubuntu but sometimes, it is necessary to get on windows
[16:54] <Seveas> kaksddkf: and wine is not an option for those apps?
[16:54] <kaksddkf> Seveas: and windows outperformes ubuntu in startup time and r/w speed and chrome startup time, while same addons are isntalled
[16:55] <ollie-> ubuntu boots a lot quicker..
[16:55] <kaksddkf> Seveas: wine is only good upto something, but program displays are horrible, take a example of office 2010or 13,
[16:56] <kaksddkf> Seveas: libre office can do things but learning curve is sharp in microsoft office and documents look more shiny and appealing in microsoft office
[16:56] <Togusa> kaksddkf: you can download the zune theme (search google) and install it inside Wine
[16:56] <guest234rf43> Seveas: unetbootin?
[16:57] <Togusa> but yeah, that's assuming the application is working fine inside wine
[16:57] <BluesKaj> kaksddkf. windows is fast if you have lots of memory and cpu power/resources , otherwise it's clunky and slow
[16:57] <kaksddkf> Togusa: thanks, i will try
[16:57] <Togusa> kaksddkf: take a look at PlayOnLinux too
[16:57] <ollie-> windows 7 gave me the blue screen..
[16:57] <ollie-> ubuntu gave me the speed ;)
[16:58] <Togusa> some programs work better with a specific wine version, and with PlayOnLInux you can easily run it
[16:58] <kaksddkf> BluesKaj: okay, but on the same hardware, linux should outperform
[16:58] <t0by> Come on, Seven ain't that bad. For a giant memory hog, that is.
[16:58] <Togusa> don't bash other operating systems :)
[16:59] <Togusa> truth is that all O.S. have something that sucks, use the one you like most
[16:59] <t0by> Togusa, I'm not bashing, I DO like Seven. But it doesn't exactly have a small footprint :)
[17:00] <ollie-> i could never go back to windows..
[17:00] <t0by> Call it design choice if you want.
[17:00] <ollie-> ive gone too far to the light
[17:00] <lolcat> how can I upgrade to 13.10?
[17:00] <t0by> As in, "it's not a bug, it's a design choice" :)
[17:00] <Togusa> probably; but the UI never has problems for me, while i do have issues with KDE/KWin/Xorg
[17:00] <ollie-> lolcat apt-get update
[17:00] <Togusa> but i know how to fix them so i don't mind
[17:00] <whoever> lolcat: what are you oan now
[17:00] <whoever> *on
[17:01] <lolcat> 12.04
[17:01] <kaksddkf> t0by: but everything is okay, i think more and more people will move to ubuntu, if there exist some apps like IDM, and professional tools should also be desinged for linux also
[17:01] <BluesKaj> kaksddkf. my install does
[17:01] <lolcat> the gui thing tells me I should upgrade to 14.04
[17:01] <arunkumar413> Hi friends, Right now can I install Ubuntu on other mobiles. This link talks only about nexus devices https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[17:01] <kaksddkf> there is lot of scope of improvment in libre office
[17:02] <ollie-> lolcat, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should work
[17:02] <t0by> (If lolcat is on LTS I think you have the moral duty of trying to persuade him to stay with it, but who am I to speak.)
[17:02] <whoever> lolcat: go int to update manager , and change notification from lts to any
[17:02] <whoever> and then check
[17:02] <ollie-> although if i remember, it says something like do-release-upgrade..
[17:02] <lolcat> whoever: no difference
[17:03] <lolcat> do-release-upgrade says no new version
[17:03] <lolcat> apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing
[17:03] <whoever> lolcat: wait a few minuts
[17:03] <whoever> lolcat: it took a while when i made the change
[17:03] <t0by> kaksddkf, or maybe not. Who cares, in the end. The end result will always be new hardware and more lakes being turned to something akin to Judge Doom's dip in China.
[17:04] <whoever> lolcat: but why do  you wanna got to 13.04 to have to go to 13.10 to get to 14.x
[17:04] <emx_> how do i mount a remote directory via ssh?
[17:04] <whoever> instead of staying on 12.04 to then go to 14.04
[17:04] <t0by> lolcat, hat to be that guy, but... *don't to it! Stick with LTS! LTS is good for you!*
[17:04] <Togusa> emx_: apt-get install sshfs
[17:04] <kaksddkf> i am eagerly waiting for Ubutnu 14.04 LTS and it should be a BANG , with excellent hardware support, high speed, high interoperablity, and some daily use softwares  should be available for linux also, like silverlight IDM , support for 3G modem, USSD etc,
[17:04] <lolcat> whoever: I want 13.10
[17:04] <Quest> is only available from another source
[17:04] <t0by> Wait, wasn't Moonlight dead?
[17:04] <ollie-> haha
[17:05] <Quest> hi             $ sudo fsck /dev/sda2       fsck from util-linux 2.20.1       fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[17:05] <ollie-> lolcat: to make sure, do sudo apt-get update
[17:05] <k1l_> lolcat: you cant upgrade direct from 12.04 to 13.10
[17:05] <whoever> lolcat: you might just want to dl the distro
[17:05] <whoever> it might be a little quicker
[17:05] <Togusa> emx_: then it's sshfs user@host:/remote/directory /local/directory
[17:05] <k1l_> lolcat: either you go from 12.04 to 14.04 or you need to upgrade 12.04->12.10->13.04->13,10
[17:05] <lolcat> k1l_: That sounds tedious
[17:05] <whoever> lolcat: since each upgrate will take about 1 hour
[17:06] <lolcat> Is 14.04 pretty much like 13.10?
[17:06] <ollie-> lolcat: you could just reinstall from a live cd?
[17:06] <whoever> k1l_: i tried to tell him
[17:06] <lolcat> I neither have cd-room drives, nor blank cds
[17:06] <k1l_> lolcat: 12.04 to 14.04 is the LTS upgrade. but its not released yet. it will be in april 2014
[17:06] <ollie-> you could use a usb?
[17:06] <lolcat> k1l_: So I can't download it?
[17:06] <lolcat> I am on vacation
[17:06] <k1l_> lolcat: no not now
[17:06] <lolcat> I brought nothing
[17:07] <lolcat> k1l_: Why is upgrade-manager telling me to install it then?
[17:07] <pfifo> lolcat: no way to fresh install? Whats your plan for when the upgrade faile and breaks your system?
[17:07] <emx_> Togusa, can i do that through nautilus, too?
[17:07] <k1l_> lolcat: did you run it with -d as option?
[17:07] <lolcat> This is still an ALPHA release. Do not install it on production machines.
[17:07] <ollie-> lolcat: try sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[17:07] <lolcat> k1l_: yes
[17:07] <Togusa> you have to do it from the terminal; once it's mounted yes, you can access it with whatever you want
[17:07] <t0by> lolcat, I'll have to second pfifo here
[17:07] <k1l_> lolcat: -d is for "development" . 14.04 is still in development until april 2014
[17:07] <lolcat> pfifo: then I am stuck
[17:07] <kaksddkf> lolcat: you should download 13.10 and install it using LIVE CD
[17:07] <ollie-> haha oops,  i said that a bit late
[17:07] <kaksddkf> lolcat: you can also use pendrive
[17:08] <lolcat> kaksddkf: So your suggestion is buying more hardware? How hard can it be to update an OS?
[17:08] <pfifo> lolcat: what do you actually want 13.10 for?
[17:08] <ollie-> lolcat: this isnt your version i dont think, but you might want to look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/287906/upgrade-from-12-04-to-13-04
[17:08] <emx_> Togusa, never mind. thanks.
[17:08] <kaksddkf> kaksddkf: you don't have a PENDRIVE?
[17:08] <kaksddkf> lolcat: you don't have a pendrive
[17:08] <k1l_> ollie-: that is a bad advise
[17:09] <ollie-> just trying :l
[17:09] <k1l_> lolcat: what do you actually want?
[17:09] <kaksddkf> lolcat: you should update to 14.04 wait for few months untill it gets released
[17:10] <lolcat> k1l_: 13.10 had some cool applets
[17:10] <lolcat> in unity
[17:10] <lolcat> I want applets
[17:10] <lolcat> k1l_: and I want to be able to set the cpu freq, and swap gpus at will
[17:10] <kaksddkf> lolcat: you can directly upgrade from LTS TO LTS otherwise you need to download a lot of data, if you don't have a unlimited plan,then you will burn your pocket
[17:10] <k1l_> kaksddkf: actually 14.04 will be relased in april 2014. that is still a lot time.
[17:11] <k1l_> lolcat: then go the update procedure from 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.04 to 13.10. or make a clean 13.10 install
[17:11] <lolcat> kaksddkf: wat?
[17:11] <lolcat> kaksddkf: what command?
[17:11] <kaksddkf> k1l_: yes, but lolcat wants to upgrade
[17:11] <kaksddkf> 13.10 is not a good advise
[17:11] <k1l_> kaksddkf: please dont confuse the user more than needed
[17:12] <whoever> lolcat: you need to do all of your incremental updates to get where you want to get to
[17:12] <lolcat> okay, what commands?
[17:12] <lolcat> I hated 13.04, it was a terrible release
[17:13] <kaksddkf> lolcat: hmm, 13.10 is supported only for 9 month, and i think you will then upgrade to 14.04, :D
[17:13] <lolcat> kaksddkf: If it works I see no point in upgrading
[17:14] <pfifo> 13.10 to 14.04 upgrades are going to be really wierd, im betting 90% of them will break
[17:14] <k1l_> lolcat: regular non-lts releases loose support after 9 month. so there are no security updates. that is a huge  issue. so stay to LTS if you dont want upgrade in a long time.
[17:14] <k1l_> pfifo: why should they? no need to scare people with that saying
[17:15] <pfifo> k1l_: cause 14.04 is going to use mir
[17:15] <ollie-> linux is for trying things ;)
[17:15] <kaksddkf> lolcat: it is better to wait for some time,  14.04 will be well tested , stable, and  you don't want to live with crashes , are you?
[17:15] <lolcat> pfifo: every time I upgrade my kernel ubuntu breaks
[17:16] <lolcat> kaksddkf: the kernel will be the same, I dont use gnome
[17:16] <naz> does anyone know of any solutions yet for nvidia users being able to set a main monitor?
[17:16] <k1l_> pfifo: there is no final decision what will be default in 14,04
[17:16] <k1l_> naz: use nvidia-settings
[17:17] <varunendra> pfifo, IIRC, 13.10 was going to not support WUBI, but looks like it does. I think canonical is not stupid enough to release something into an LTS unless it is proven to be stable enough.
[17:18] <naz> I've set my main monitor in the nvidia server x settings still has done anything for me, I also have to turn off my other monitor and turn it back on to get the bar on the right screen (using gnome in 13.10)
[17:18] <kaksddkf> lolcat: there are two ways: upgrade serially from 12.04 to 12.10 and so on to 13.10, or download a live cd and make a bootableUSB and check whether it suits you, there are major chances that during all serial upgrades, you will mess with something weird
[17:18] <pfifo> the information I have says 14.04 is going to use mir, unless i read it wrong (ive been wrong once)
[17:19] <lolcat> kaksddkf: I am just afraid they will delete my /home harddrive
[17:19] <k1l_> pfifo: at least i would wait with that remarks untill vUDS next week
[17:19] <varunendra> pfifo, last minute changes are not new to Ubuntu releases ;)
[17:20] <kaksddkf> lolcat: NO, if you do a carefull install this will not happen
[17:20] <kaksddkf> lolcat: if you are unsure, and not familiar with partitions, don't do it
[17:20] <lolcat> I need to get rid of the swap space too
[17:21] <lolcat> kaksddkf: I guess I can just do a full install to the ssd and then fix the fstab afterwards
[17:21] <naz> for example quakelive keeps opening up on the wrong screen even tho the nvidia settings have monitor '0' set as main
[17:21] <ciss> hi, i'm running precise with netatalk 2.2 installed. unfortunately acleandir doesn't seem to be present. what am i missing?
[17:21] <kaksddkf> lolcat: swap is required when RAM is less or when you want to hibernate your PC/LAPPY
[17:21] <ollie-> how do you enable hibernate?
[17:21] <lolcat> kaksddkf: Isn't swap a waste of good SSD? I can't remember ever using more than 7MB swap
[17:22] <LjL> lolcat: also, potentially wearing to the SSD
[17:22] <kaksddkf> lolcat: instead of installing, use LIVE BOOT and see all the things you need are working properly or not
[17:22] <lolcat> Swap:        16276          0      16276
[17:22] <kaksddkf> lolcat: definitely,
[17:22] <compdoc> an ssd is the best place for swap
[17:22] <lolcat> LjL: Wouldn't mind killing it, 5 year warranty. But leaving 16GB of a 60GB SSD to not be used seems pointless
[17:23] <Chotaz> Hello everyone, I'm using ubuntu 13.10 to backup some data of a dieing HDD, is there a way i can mount this HDD to the network and acess it via my windows computer so I backup things faster?
[17:23] <lolcat> I have 16GB ram, I use i3-wm, and I rarely use more than 2GB ram
[17:23] <LjL> lolcat: well, i wouldn't have 16GB of swap, that's for sure
[17:23] <lolcat> Mem:         15942       4504      11437          0        261       2293
[17:23] <lolcat> Heh, even the cache isn't utilizing all my ram
[17:24] <ollie-> chotaz you could try samba
[17:24] <kaksddkf> lolcat: you can delete that partition,  but google and read on ubuntu wiki how to disable swap and use that space for something else
[17:24] <Chotaz> ollie-: would that work off the live cd?
[17:24] <lolcat> kaksddkf: Sure. I have more free ram than free ssd.
[17:24] <ollie-> oh, a live cd..
[17:25] <LjL> Chotaz: sure. i'm pretty sure it can be done from the GUI, too, but i don't really know how these days.
[17:25] <ollie-> you could put it on a usb stick
[17:25] <kaksddkf> lolcat: 16 GB is more than enough for many operations and i am using 2 GB and system is working quite smooth,
[17:25] <LjL> ollie-: what's the problem with samba from live cd?
[17:26] <ollie-> you have to install it?
[17:26] <berga> sorry, yes I was not 100% last time I was here. I cincerely apologize for any annoyance I may have caused
[17:26] <ollie-> i was thinking if its on a DVD..
[17:26] <LjL> ollie-: nothing (aside from RAM) prevents you from installing software while running a live cd
[17:27] <ollie-> you can store it on the ram?
[17:28] <Chotaz> i dont understand is how win 8.1 keeps throwing BSODs on this HDD whenever its on for more than 15m, and the live cd has been running and acessing this same hdd without a problem..
[17:28] <LjL> ollie-: yes
[17:28] <LjL> Chotaz: some info about doing it from GUI https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide#Samba_Server_Configuration_by_GUI
[17:28] <ollie-> i never knew that LjL
[17:28] <LjL> Chotaz: maybe it's because Windows is swapping on it, while Linux is just checking some files that happened to be trouble-free
[17:30] <beefman> i have a raid1 disk from a machine whose mobo died yesterday.  i plugged it into the esata port on another because the esata on the other has the same raid controller, and it can read the contents.  trying to boot linux from it, get the grub command line, can ls each of the partitions, but can't get it to boot
[17:30] <pc> im trying to restore my acer one back to factory setting with a bootable usb. i did this before but i cant remember how. i have my acer, ubuntu 12.04 disc, windows laptop and a usb drive. can anyone tell me the easiest way to do this
[17:30] <beefman> my partition layout is 1 = boot part, 2= swap, 3 = root, then extended w/ home and another
[17:30] <beefman> in grub 2, do i set root=(hd0,msdos1) or (hd0,msdos3)?
[17:31] <beefman> btw when i try to boot using either, i always get thrown to initramfs prompt, and /dev has no record of the drives from which the initrd was just loaded
[17:31] <Ari-Yang> lolcat: if you want to upgrade to 13.10, I recommend you do a fresh install (especially if you're on a release that's before 13.04). If you want to just upgrade with the command then run sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:32] <Ari-Yang> !upgrade
[17:32] <beefman> ie there is drive matching the raided one in /dev/ or /dev/disk/by-xxx/, only one matching another drive in the system.  do i need to load some module to access the esata port?
[17:32] <pc> im trying to restore my acer one back to factory setting with a bootable usb. i did this before but i cant remember how. i have my acer, ubuntu 12.04 disc, windows laptop and a usb drive. can anyone tell me the easiest way to do this?
[17:34] <Ari-Yang> !bootableusb
[17:34] <Ari-Yang> !bootusb
[17:34] <Ari-Yang> !liveusb
[17:34] <Ari-Yang> ^ pc
[17:38] <Emmezeta77> hy
[17:38] <Emmezeta77> ciao
[17:39] <Emmezeta77> !list
[17:39] <pc> where would i find the iso to use? last time i did it through startup disk creator it was right there on my ubuntu computer
[17:40] <Ari-Yang> !releases
[17:40] <Ari-Yang> !iso
[17:40] <Ari-Yang> pc: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[17:41] <padrino> If I boot as LiveCD from USB and download/install a few things, will they save to mem stick or will they dissapear when I reboot?
[17:42] <varunendra> padrino, they'll be lost
[17:42] <padrino> varunendra Oh :-(
[17:42] <varunendra> unless you 'saved' them to a partition on the drive
[17:42] <pfifo> padrino: they disappear, but you can add persistence if you want to preserve stuff
[17:43] <pc> sorry if i sound like a newb (i am), but if i allready have a ubuntu computer isnt the iso already there?
[17:43] <pfifo> pc: no
[17:43] <pc> k. on the disk?
[17:43] <iTitou> BITE !!!
[17:44] <pfifo> its 'byte'
[17:44] <varunendra> pc, iso is the source for installation, it doesn't store itself in the installation.
[17:45] <pfifo> pc: you download the iso, and burn it to a cd (or make a pendrive) then install ubuntu with it, but the iso itself dosent get stored as part of the installed system (i like to copy it to /boot/iso manually after the install, you might want to start doing this yourself)
[17:47] <pc> so i have to completely re download it to get it on to a usb. correct?
[17:48] <pfifo> pc: assuming you didnt save a copy of it in ~/Downloads from before, yes youll need another copy
[17:49] <varunendra> pc, did your come with Ubuntu preinstalled?
[17:49] <varunendra> your computer*
[17:49] <pc> no, but i found a file in downloads that says its the iso but it is 0bytes
[17:50] <varunendra> pc, how did you install Ubuntu earlier then?
[17:51] <pc> off of my desktop. i  just followed the instructions but this time the iso wasnt there anymore
[17:52] <varunendra> pc, is it a WUBI installation? (ubuntu installed while windows was running)
[17:53] <cristina> ciao
[17:53] <cristina> !list
[17:53] <pc> no it was with startup disk creator it was really easy the first time
[17:54] <varunendra> pc, that application is part of Ubuntu installation. How was the source Ubuntu installed? The one in which you ran startup disk creator.
[17:54] <zertyui> hi
[17:54] <zertyui> hi there
[17:54] <zertyui> anyone ?
[17:54] <pfifo> hi
[17:55] <pc> with a disk
[17:55] <Trudko> guys is there way how to minimalize ither windows by shaking the active one like it is in windows?
[17:55] <zertyui> i  m trying to install apache2 on ubuntu Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[17:55] <varunendra> pc, a physical optical disc?
[17:56] <pc> i used my desktop that i previously installed ubuntu on
[17:56] <pc> a cd that i burnt ubuntu 12.04 on
[17:56] <Quest> hi             $ sudo fsck /dev/sda2       fsck from util-linux 2.20.1       fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[17:56] <pfifo> zertyui: hows it going?
[17:57] <pfifo> Quest: linux does not have toos to perform a filesystem check on NTFS filesystems, youll have to do it from windows
[17:57] <pfifo> tools*
[17:57] <varunendra> pc, okay, I think I understand now. If you have a fast internet connection, perhaps it is best idea to download a fresh ISO, via torrent this time.
[17:58] <Quest> pfifo,  I have been doing fsck for ntfs a long time ago.  ever heard fsck.ntfs ?
[17:58] <pc> ok. not very fast. its through my phone so it'll take about an hour,  but if that is what i have to do
[17:59] <pc> nvm its up to 16 hourzs
[17:59] <pc> hours
[17:59] <pc> and rising. oh boy
[17:59] <varunendra> pc, what is your average download speed? And are you using torrents?
[18:00] <pfifo> Quest: theres ntfsfix from the ntfs3g package, but windows is better prepared to handle ntfs filesystems
[18:00] <pc> no just a link someone put on here
[18:00] <pc> through firefox
[18:00] <varunendra> pc, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[18:01] <BluesKaj> use the torrents as varunendra said , they're faster, pc
[18:01] <pfifo> I wish my carrier allowed bittorrent
[18:01] <pc> through transmission?
[18:01] <strtok> pfifo: you need a new aircraft carrier
[18:02] <strtok> or a new ISP
[18:02] <varunendra> pc, if you have a painfully slow gprs connection like mine, you can just create an ISO image from the optical disc you mentioned earlier
[18:02] <pc> ok. how do i do that?
[18:03] <varunendra> pc, do you have a working Ubuntu installation? Use brasero in it if you do.
[18:03] <pfifo> I thought the startup disk creator allowed you to just use a livecd placed in the cdrom
[18:04] <pc> my ubuntu computer that i have with me doesnt have a cd drive. thats why i need it on a bootable usb
[18:05] <varunendra> pfifo, yes, the optical disc can be used as the source for live USB even if the live session is running off itself.
[18:05] <pc>  what do ii need out of this?:[DIR]	Parent Directory	 	-
[18:05] <pc> [ ]	boot.img.gz	20-Aug-2013 09:20 	22M
[18:05] <pc> [DIR]	gtk/	20-Aug-2013 09:20 	-
[18:05] <pc> [ ]	mini.iso	20-Aug-2013 09:20 	33M
[18:05] <pc> [ ]	netboot.tar.gz	20-Aug-2013 09:20 	22M
[18:05] <FloodBot1> pc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:05] <pc> [ ]	pxelinux.0	20-Aug-2013 09:20 	26K
[18:06] <Teleport> Hi, I want to sudo modprobe snd-virmidi, as login
[18:06] <isleofmandan> Can anyone tell me where Unity launcher items are kept? I'm trying to find out what command is run when I click on a certain launcher.
[18:06] <Teleport> actually I need virtual midis at startup
[18:07] <varunendra> pc, you said earlier - <pc> i used my desktop that i previously installed ubuntu on...... <pc> a cd that i burnt ubuntu 12.04 on
[18:07] <Teleport> isleofmandan rightclick>properties>edit
[18:08] <pc> yes.. im not home where that computer is
[18:08] <isleofmandan> Teleport I don't get a 'properties' option on right-click
[18:09] <pc> i have a 12.04 burnt disk with me and a windows computer
[18:09] <Teleport> isleofmandan Panel Preferences>Items>Edit>Edit
[18:10] <varunendra> pc, does that windows compute have a working CD/DVD drive?
[18:10] <pc> yes
[18:10] <varunendra> pc, and any cd/dvd burning software?
[18:10] <pc> yes
[18:10] <varunendra> pc, which one?
[18:11] <isleofmandan> Teleport  Perhaps I didn't mean 'launcher'. I mean the icons on the left of the screen on the standard desktop install.
[18:12] <eer> I am giving up. Could anybody please tell me how to get virtual hosts to work in 13.10?
[18:12] <eer> It was no problem in 13.04
[18:12] <pc> varunendra: basic windows burning software
[18:13] <Teleport> isleofmandan we have four Icon mode in desktop: 1clickable doubleclickable rightclickable 1click-menu
[18:13] <varunendra> pc, I think copying a CD is a function that all basic software provide. If not, you can install tiny free tools like daemontools lite to create an ISO from the CD
[18:14] <varunendra> isleofmandan, perhaps you want the ".desktop" files in /usr/share/applications
[18:15]  * pfifo dosent understand why pc just dosent have a liveusb already setup on his phone
[18:16] <pc> on my phone?
[18:16] <pfifo> most smart phones act like a USB thumbdrive. I put grub and an iso on mine so I can boot linux from it
[18:17] <isleofmandan> varunendra Ah. Thankyou. Has this info I was looking for in there.  :)
[18:17] <Quest> pfifo,  the windows is not booting up as its corrupted. so I am left with linux to solve it
[18:17] <varunendra> pc, if getting an ISO of the source (for safekeeping) is your objective, use a cd copying software. If creating a Live USB is the objective, then you should be able to use the live cd itself.
[18:17] <varunendra> isleofmandan, welcome :)
[18:17] <sevenless> Hi, I'm trying to recover an old HDD. I can login on recovery mode, but "startx" just gives me "screen not found".
[18:17] <Quest> pfifo,  i do have ntfs-3g insalled but don know how to use it
[18:17] <sevenless> Any ideas?
[18:17] <pfifo> Quest: run ntfsfix
[18:18] <jhutchins_wk> sevenless: What would running X have to do with recovering a drive?
[18:18] <pc> i tried that through startup disk creator. it didnt work
[18:18] <sevenless> jhutchins_wk: I want to log in under X
[18:18] <sevenless> so i can get old files back, etc
[18:18] <varunendra> pc, did you boot the computer from that very same live cd?
[18:19] <jhutchins_wk> sevenless: just use the console and something like cp or rsync.  You don't need a gui to copy/move files.
[18:19] <jhutchins_wk> sevenless: I would boot to some other source - another HD, a CD/DVD, or a USB.
[18:20] <zxz> What happens if i have liveusb with option to save all cnanges i made and the install ubuntu from this usb ? Will my changes be applied after installation ?
[18:21] <pfifo> zxz: no, the install will be seperate from the liveusb
[18:21] <Togusa> sevenless: you could try midnight commander if you can't start the UI (it's a file manager you can run from your shell)
[18:21] <Togusa> it should suffice if you just have to copy files
[18:21] <pc> ok.. i installed ubuntu on my desktop computer with a ubuntu disk. i later acquired an acer one computer that required that ubuntu be installed via usb i made
[18:22] <eastcloud72> ?
[18:22] <varunendra> zxz, but if these changes are downloaded/installed applications, you may use AptOnCD to create an offline repository of these downloaded apps.
[18:24] <Quest> pfifo,  thx. wokred
[18:24] <Quest> worked*
[18:24] <pfifo> i hope it did
[18:29] <pc> ok.. i installed ubuntu on my desktop computer with a ubuntu disk. i later acquired an acer one computer that required that ubuntu be installed via usb i made using my desktop. i tried going through the same steps that i did the first time  to create a bootable usb through startup disk creator i could not locate the iso as i did the first time. im not at home with the desktop computer what i have with me right now is the ubuntu install disk a windows laptop usb
[18:29] <pc> stick and my acer
[18:29] <Dinosaurio> Hi, I need help. A friends and I have just done a work for the university. But the different parts of the work appear with different letter styles and I can't change their colour. It looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/szWijGM.png << Any idea?
[18:30] <eastcloud72> helow
[18:30] <eastcloud72> hello
[18:30] <eastcloud72> how are you.
[18:30] <Dinosaurio> I tried to remove the direct stile, but nothing happens
[18:31] <Dinosaurio> style
[18:32] <eastcloud72> ?
[18:32] <eastcloud72> ?
[18:32] <eastcloud72> ?
[18:32] <FloodBot1> eastcloud72: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <eastcloud72> hmm
[18:32] <eastcloud72> I join first time.
[18:32] <eastcloud72> how to use this chat?
[18:33] <eastcloud72> help?
[18:33] <eastcloud72> --help
[18:33] <eastcloud72> ?help
[18:33] <BluesKaj> eastcloud72. , do you have an ubuntu question
[18:33] <FloodBot1> eastcloud72: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <patryk_> siemka
[18:33] <ki4ro> eastcloud72, just ask your question
[18:33] <varunendra> pc, you can boot the windows computer with the live cd, then run startup disk creator from that live session. It will automatically pick the cd itself as the source for live usb.
[18:33] <eastcloud72> I have a lot of ubuntu question.
[18:33] <Dinosaurio> Does anyone knows how to fix this grey colour in libreoffice? http://i.imgur.com/szWijGM.png
[18:33] <ki4ro> eastcloud72, ask the first one
[18:33] <eastcloud72> How do I use windows multimedia codec in my web browser and How do I use Silverlight.
[18:34] <ki4ro> eastcloud72, Now be patient and  perhaps someone will be able to help you
[18:34] <eastcloud72> Thank you ki4ro
[18:34] <ki4ro> eastcloud72, Welcome
[18:35] <wxl> i know how to reset passwords with a live cd in general, but how does one mount a raid array so one can perform the necessary steps?
[18:36] <ollie-> hello
[18:36] <BluesKaj> eastcloud72. silverlight is a windows app that has no linux equivalent
[18:36] <wxl> actually i thought there was a linux version of silverlight
[18:36] <wxl> some mono thing
[18:37] <wxl> yep moonlight
[18:37] <geekstay> Hi everyone. I've some problem when I want to suspend. It's impossible to me to turn on my laptop. Screen still black, and when I tape on my keyboard or the touchpad, nothing happens. I've to reboot my computer by pushing the on/off button. (laptop on XUbuntu).
[18:37] <wxl> has support for most of silverlight 3 and some 4
[18:37] <geekstay> Thank you if someone can help me.
[18:37] <BluesKaj> moonlight doesn't work very well
[18:37]  * wxl shrugs
[18:37] <ki4ro> eastcloud72 http://www.ubuntugeek.com/pipelight-using-silverlight-in-linux-browsers.html
[18:37] <wxl> it's as close as one can get
[18:39] <ki4ro> .
[18:41] <milamber> wxl: have you tried pipelight?
[18:42] <wxl> milamber: i don't use silverlight ;)
[18:42] <DJones> Moonlight is a dead project for that 12-24 months, so that doesn't really help
[18:44] <gbit> Does anyone can help me creating a group of users that only can send/receive email to local domain only?
[18:44] <geekstay> Nobody for helping me ?
[18:45] <ollie-> my laptop use to never come back from being suspend
[18:46] <shadytv> ollie, do you have nVidia graphics?
[18:47] <ollie-> it was a brick of a laptop
[18:47] <ollie-> but no
[18:48] <pfifo> geekstay: dont suspend, problem solved :D
[18:48] <ollie-> maybe your computer is having problems catching the wake up calls?
[18:48] <shadytv> hmm weird, the only reason i was wondering was because it's a problem with the open source drivers
[18:49] <geekstay> pfifo : It's what I do now ^^.
[18:50] <eer> I am giving up. Could anybody please tell me how to get virtual hosts to work in 13.10?
[18:50] <ollie-> i have a desktop, but how do i put it in hibernation?
[18:50] <eer> It was no problem in 13.04
[18:50] <yeats> pipelight works but it means that wine has to run every time you open your browser
[18:51] <eer> I renamed the sites-available file to *.conf but still no success.
[18:51] <ollie-> apache?
[18:51] <yeats> eer: you've done 'sudo a2ensite mysite.conf'?
[18:53] <eer> YeahRight, yes but only the standard "it works" appears. It worked fine in 13.04
[18:53] <eer> Does't find the virtual hosts.
[18:53] <eer> Stopped working after the upgrade
[18:53] <ollie-> virtual hosts for apache?
[18:54] <eer> upgrade to 13.10
[18:54] <eer> yes for apache
[18:56] <ollie-> i dont know about that, its always worked for me (but that was on the raspberry pi)
[18:59] <babinlonston> How can i play WMV Format Videos in Ubuntu 13.04
[19:01] <pmarino> babinlonston: you can use VLC from videolan.org
[19:01] <pmarino> babinlonston: or, "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[19:03] <shadytv> babinlonston, you may have to run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[19:03] <babinlonston> pmarino: i have it and its not playing wmv And shows this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6433539/
[19:03] <alessiac> list!
[19:03] <babinlonston> shadytv: already i have installed it buddy
[19:03] <alessiac> list!
[19:04] <BluesKaj> !list | aladilas
[19:04] <babinlonston> shadytv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6433544/
[19:06] <pmarino> babinlonston: any luck if you try running vlc from the command line "vlc --codec dmo" ?
[19:07] <babinlonston> pmarino: yes its opening vlc ,
[19:07] <shadytv> babinlonston, what version of vlc are you using?
[19:08] <babinlonston> 2.0.8 Two flower ,  yesterday only i have formatted my system and its freshly installed, but i have the issue before it too
[19:09] <shadytv> babinlonston, https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/750
[19:09] <ollie-> vlc doesnt support it?
[19:09] <shadytv> babinlonston, it's a problem with versions under 2.1
[19:11] <babinlonston> shadytv: then vlc wont support it ?
[19:11] <shadytv> babinlonston, sadly it doesnt look like it for now :(
[19:11] <metadan> Can anyone tell me how I can undo clicking 'do nothing' and ticking always do this when chrome opens a popup asking me to launch an application
[19:12] <shadytv> babinlonston, try using mplayer see if that works?
[19:12] <metadan> to do with xdg-open I believe
[19:12] <BluesKaj> babinlonston. install MPlayer which supports MSS2
[19:12] <babinlonston> shadytv: hmm then any way to play WMV in any other player ?
[19:12] <babinlonston> oh ok let me try hold a sec
[19:13] <babinlonston> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get install mplayer ????
[19:13] <BluesKaj> babinlonston. yes
[19:14] <babinlonston> Showing as Mplayer already exisit
[19:14] <OerHeks> babinlonston, wmv with DRM is not playable in ubuntu/linux, known issue.
[19:15] <babinlonston> OerHeks: ok then i need to drop the plan, thanks mate
[19:15] <eer> I don't get it. Apache 2.4 does not use the VirtualHost directive anymore? https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html#misc
[19:15] <danielina> list
[19:15] <eer> How can I get the virtual hosts to work then?
[19:16] <metadan> no the whole apache 2.4 config methodology has changed
[19:16] <eer> I keep getting the "it works" page. It doesn't find my virtual hosts.
[19:17] <somethingrandom> hey folks, any idea why traffic for flash goes not via my openvpn connection?
[19:17] <ollie-> flash bypasses it?
[19:17] <jared_> hello
[19:18] <somethingrandom> ya, this is weird
[19:18] <somethingrandom> i get a country specific error from youtube
[19:18] <jared_> Is there a way that i can create a bootable usb for windows from linux ubuntu
[19:18] <ollie-> jared_ try unetboot?
[19:19] <jared_> I have used unetbootin and it has not worked
[19:19] <ollie-> i dont think windows likes being made to a usb boot
[19:20] <jared_> Well i have a windows 8.1 pro dev iso and would like to install it off a usb for a client
[19:20] <somethingrandom> fuckin flash
[19:21] <jared_> @somethingrandom Goto the software store for linux and look up adobe flash, install it and than it should work
[19:21] <xangua> !language | somethingrandom
[19:22] <ollie-> jared_ not sure if this will help - http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows-8/a/install-windows-8-usb.htm
[19:22] <somethingrandom> jared_ i got flash, via chrome, that's not the problem. flash bypassing my vpn is the problem
[19:22] <jared_> oh
[19:22] <JordanJ2> Can I install gnome 3 in ubuntu safely?
[19:22] <somethingrandom> could be that the ip get's mistaken
[19:22] <jared_> @ollie- I will try
[19:22] <ollie-> jordonj2 yes you can
[19:23] <ollie-> but uninstalling it might make a problem as it did for me
[19:24] <ollie-> somethingrandom flash gets your real ip it seems, ive looked into this before and a normal proxy doesnt do anything. Although i havent tried a vpn
[19:24] <somethingrandom> it shouldn't happen over the vpn
[19:24] <somethingrandom> maybe it's the ip range
[19:25] <somethingrandom> it's similiar to another countries ISP range
[19:26] <BluesKaj> somethingrandom. which vpn protocol are you using ?
[19:26] <ollie-> is flash detecting your areas ip? and you want a different one?
[19:26] <somethingrandom> openvpn BluesKaj
[19:26] <jared_> Is there a way i can track a computers ip location on linux?
[19:26] <jared_> and it worked, thanks Ollie-
[19:27] <somethingrandom> ollie- i don't know. checking the ip says i'm on the vpn. i don't know how to test flash
[19:27] <jared_> leave the vpn
[19:27] <BluesKaj> dom go to youtube
[19:27] <BluesKaj> somethingrandom.*
[19:28] <ollie-> what do you mean track a computers ip?
[19:28] <jared_> track a location of a ip address
[19:28] <BluesKaj> somethingrandom. youtube uses flash
[19:29] <ollie-> haha,.. i guessed that, but why?
[19:29] <jared_> like on windows, i created a batch program, if i can find a way to get flash to work on linux, I can track my work computer since it has been stolen
[19:29] <jared_> like on windows, i created a batch program, if i can find a way to get batch to work on linux, I can track my work computer since it has been stolen
[19:30] <BluesKaj> jared_. a good one is , www.myip.ms
[19:30] <jared_> Ok
[19:30] <jrib> jared_: contact law enforcement
[19:30] <jared_> Lol
[19:30] <jared_> ok
[19:31] <jared_> How much steps could dubstep step if dubstep could step dub?
[19:31] <jared_> lol
[19:31] <jared_> sorry
[19:31] <jared_> bye
[19:31] <jared_> fuck u al
[19:31] <FloodBot1> jared_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:31] <ollie-> i had the answer as well haha
[19:38] <etherock121212> Hi, I'm using the Windows installer for Ubuntu. My installation drive is 50 GB large, is my installation size going to be how much storage I can use?
[19:39] <etherock121212> Will I be able to use all 50 GB?
[19:39] <jrib> etherock121212: of course the OS will take some space
[19:40] <etherock121212> I know that
[19:40] <jrib> etherock121212: then what is your question?
[19:40] <Sven_vB> etherock121212, you can probably mount the windows partition from within ubuntu and then use the remaining space with both OSes. just don't modify the Ubuntu portion while running it :)
[19:40] <etherock121212> If I lower the installation size to 5GB, will that make my OS slower? If I use 18GB for installation, is it faster?
[19:40] <kevin> hey guys. so i recently upgraded from precise to saucy and now i've lost gcalctool... i have the package installed ("gcalctool is already the newest version.") but when i type gcalctool in my terminal, "The program 'gcalctool' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gcalctool" ... any ideas?
[19:41] <ollie-> size shouldnt matter, apart from the buffer space
[19:41] <jrib> etherock121212: what do you mean by "installation size"?
[19:41] <jrib> etherock121212: you mean the size of the partition you are installing to?
[19:41] <Sven_vB> etherock121212, 5 GB would be too small for what i usually install, but 15 GB should be enough; both shouldn't impact speed
[19:41] <etherock121212> Okay, thanks Seven_vB
[19:41] <ollie-> what about the buffer?
[19:42] <etherock121212> Also, whats the difference with Ubuntu and Edubuntu?
[19:42] <jrib> etherock121212: different set of default packages installed
[19:42] <etherock121212> Oh
[19:42] <ollie-> they are both built on ubuntu
[19:42] <ollie-> well.. ubuntu is ubuntu
[19:42] <Sven_vB> etherock121212, the main difference is in which programs are installed by default. you can install missing programs later anyways.
[19:43] <etherock121212> Are there any that come with Java installed by default?
[19:43] <Giwrgaras> is there a rar for ubuntu? i try to etract some files with archive manager and this goddamn stupid thing takes a 3.4gig file and somehow turns it in to a 12gb etracted file
[19:43] <jrib> etherock121212: probably most of them
[19:43] <Giwrgaras> i tried another thing called ark and it was crap as well
[19:43] <Giwrgaras> couldnt open the mkv file afterwards with vlc
[19:43] <jrib> !rar | Giwrgaras
[19:43] <etherock121212> I know for a fact that Ubuntu doesn't, at least that's what I encountered before.
[19:43] <Giwrgaras> i installed it but i cannot find it
[19:43] <jrib> etherock121212: it does
[19:43] <etherock121212> Alrighty then
[19:43] <jrib> Giwrgaras: what is "it"
[19:44] <sevenless> Hi, so, I'm trying to recover my desktop on an old HDD. I can boot into recovery mode, but I can't startx.
[19:44] <Giwrgaras> and in the options to "open with" i can see only archive manager and ark
[19:44] <jrib> etherock121212: it's just not sun's java
[19:44] <sevenless> It's Ubuntu.
[19:44] <jrib> Giwrgaras: you use archive manager
[19:44] <sevenless> If I startx I get "no devices found"
[19:44] <Giwrgaras> its terrible
[19:44] <jrib> Giwrgaras: installing "unrar" just lets arhcive manager use it
[19:44] <jrib> Giwrgaras: in what way?
[19:44] <jrib> !who | Giwrgaras
[19:44] <ollie-> !tab ?
[19:45] <jrib> etherock121212: ubuntu comes with libreoffice which requires java.  So openjdk should be installed by default
[19:45] <Giwrgaras> when it unrars the file it takes it and makes it from 3.4 gigs 12.5gigs and more
[19:45] <Giwrgaras> it takes all my hd space
[19:45] <jrib> Giwrgaras: umm, what would you prefer?
[19:45] <Sven_vB> Giwrgaras, are you trying to extract only some files instead of all
[19:46] <Giwrgaras> i found whats up it did the job, to create the mkv from the rars, but it did it 3 times
[19:46] <Giwrgaras> i dont know why
[19:47] <jrib> Giwrgaras: you should just extract the first rar (it will automatically use the others in the series)
[19:47] <Giwrgaras> i try to do that with the usual method, select all the rars & etract here
[19:47] <Giwrgaras> so i click only one? instead of all jtrib?
[19:47] <jrib> Giwrgaras: click the first one (usually the .rar)
[19:48] <pfifo> sevenless: do a fresh install, youll be better off
[19:48] <Giwrgaras> its not only one, there are many with the etention r00, r01 etc
[19:48] <sevenless> pfifo: i need the files on this one.
[19:48] <jrib> Giwrgaras: choose the first one.
[19:49] <pfifo> sevenless: ok, back them up, then format, fresh install
[19:49] <Giwrgaras> oh i see it was on the bottom there  a rar you are right
[19:49] <Giwrgaras> *is
[19:50] <BluesKaj> Giwrgaras. unp can extract practically anything if you don't mind using the terminal
[19:52] <crist> salut
[19:52] <crist> romanii pe aici?
[19:54] <vlt> Hello. To which corner of the desktop do I have to move the mouse pointer to disable the screensaver?
[19:56] <crist> salut
[19:57] <ollie-> disable the screen saver?
[19:57] <crist> irc acces?
[19:59] <rene_gr> Hey everyone, incoming challange: I am doing a do-release-upgrade in 10.04 (to 12.04), graphical-wise. now everything worked fine until grup-pc configuration. while installing I detached mouse&keyboard. since grup asks me some question I re-attached mouse+keyboard, but they won't work now :-( I am desperate. Has someone I nice idea?
[20:00] <ollie-> hmm
[20:00] <Sven_vB> rene_gr, remote control
[20:01] <ollie-> but you have to have remote control enabled?
[20:01] <rene_gr> how can I check? do you mean vnc?
[20:01] <lazarus477> Is there a command line tool that lists updated rpm configs under /etc that need to be manually enabled?
[20:01] <Sven_vB> rene_gr, VNC would be nice, SSH should be sufficient
[20:01] <lazarus477> Such as configx.rpmnew
[20:02] <Sven_vB> rene_gr, what kind of cable is on the keyboard? have you tried a USB keyboard?
[20:04] <Andres_Rama> hello
[20:04] <Andres_Rama> is anyone having probems with the 13.10 update
[20:04] <Andres_Rama> because it just messed up my comp big time
[20:04] <xangua> !anyone | Andres_Rama
[20:04] <andrewpthorp> Hi! I am having an issue with Ubuntu Upstart, would someone mind checking this out? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20035439/foreman-export-upstart-resetting-path
[20:05] <Andres_Rama> Is it possible for ubuntu to mess up so much it makes problems in the windows partition too?
[20:05] <Andres_Rama> It isn't right?
[20:05] <Andres_Rama> right?
[20:06] <shadytv> Andres_rama, what problem are you having?
[20:06] <Andres_Rama> ubuntu update failed, booted back to windows and now windows has the wrong time and wont update it to the correct time
[20:06] <Andres_Rama> i have no idea how or why
[20:07] <ollie-> ubuntu shouldnt touch the windows partition..
[20:07] <Andres_Rama> mayb windows is bugging at the same time? this isnt my lucky day
[20:07] <shadytv> that's because Windows and Linux handle time differentially  for windows just go to your Internet time setting and update the time
[20:08] <Andres_Rama> I did
[20:08] <Andres_Rama> its still wrong
[20:08] <daftykins> set it manually
[20:08] <Andres_Rama> -.-
[20:09] <daftykins> so you didn't update Windows after installing it - you went straight to installing Ubuntu after it?
[20:10] <Andres_Rama> i installed ubuntu a few months ago
[20:10] <Andres_Rama> everything worked fine
[20:10] <Andres_Rama> then today
[20:10] <Andres_Rama> i updated ubuntu
[20:10] <FloodBot1> Andres_Rama: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:10] <Andres_Rama> and then the updater crashed and now this is happening
[20:11] <ollie-> my windows partition worked fine, i installed ubuntu and it messed it up. (but its only because windows doesnt like being resized)
[20:12] <awesomess3> ollie-, so how did you fix the windows partition?
[20:12] <daftykins> Andres_Rama: did you resume and complete the update in Ubuntu?
[20:12] <ollie-> i rebooted and it updated itself
[20:13] <Andres_Rama> I keep trying to resume the update but it just crashes
[20:13] <ferikaiko> HELP ME :(( I have problem with booting my xubuntu. When i turn my laptop on, and choose the ubuntu, i see a blank page and nothing happenes. but when I turn my laptop off and on, after two times, that blank page passes and i see an error, and after that the system loads the ubuntu. what is " KVM: disabled by the BIOS" about ??! what is wrong with ubuntu 13.10 ???
[20:13] <Andres_Rama> it gives me an error message and wont continue. Something about unmet dependencies
[20:14] <ferikaiko> can anyone help me pls ??
[20:14] <ollie-> i had that problem andres_rama.. sadly i cant remember what i did
[20:14] <ollie-> ferikaiko, i recommend reinstalling
[20:15] <linuxuz3r> ferikaiko, http://askubuntu.com/questions/263179/get-rid-of-kvm-disabled-by-bios
[20:15] <shadytv> ferikaiko, can you log into tty?
[20:15] <ferikaiko> any other ideas ??
[20:15] <Andres_Rama> maybe if i get the disc for 13.04 and use the diagnostics tools on it?
[20:15] <ferikaiko> tty ??
[20:15] <Danato> ferikaiko:  I saw that error installing ubuntu on a virtualbox yesterday, but it ddnt interfere with the boot up
[20:15] <ollie-> andres_rama, you could use a live cd and rebuild?
[20:15] <shadytv> ferikaiko, press ctrl alt f2 it's a command line fallback
[20:16] <trism> andrewpthorp: where is the PATH to bundle set?
[20:16] <conzales_> quit
[20:16] <andrewpthorp> that is set in /home/myuser/.bashrc
[20:17] <andrewpthorp> It appears the PATH is being reset with upstart, but I don't know if I should just manually edit the PATH in upstart conf file or what?
[20:17] <ferikaiko> shadytv u mean when i see that error?
[20:17] <trism> andrewpthorp: su -c is not an interactive shell so bashrc won't get sourced
[20:17] <andrewpthorp> I figured. What's the solution standard?
[20:18] <shadytv> ferikaiko, yes
[20:19] <andrewpthorp> Wait, doesn't the - make it a login shell?
[20:19] <trism> andrewpthorp: you could use .profile
[20:19] <andrewpthorp> su - myuser -c ?
[20:19] <ferikaiko> shadytv, when i see that error, it passes and ubuntu comes up. It doesn't hang on that error
[20:19] <trism> andrewpthorp: yes, but not an interactive shell
[20:19] <andrewpthorp> gotcha
[20:19] <shadytv> ferikaiko, press it when ubuntu comes up then
[20:19] <andrewpthorp> so .profile gets sourced, but .bashrc doesnt
[20:19] <andrewpthorp> That makes sense
[20:19] <shadytv> ferikaiko, you need to do it when the system is fully booted
[20:20] <ferikaiko> @shadytv, and then what should i do ?
[20:20] <shadytv> log in
[20:21] <andrewpthorp> trism: thanks for helping, and helping me understand.
[20:21] <andrewpthorp> It workoed
[20:21] <trism> andrewpthorp: no prob
[20:21] <shadytv> ferikaiko, log into the command line (if it comes up)
[20:21] <ferikaiko> I cwhat command line ??
[20:21] <ferikaiko> what comman line*
[20:22] <ferikaiko> @Danato: r u here ?
[20:22] <shadytv> ferikaiko, when you boot completely up press ctrl alt f2, there should be a command line log in that comes up
[20:23] <SamuraiDio> hi, i'm using E17 on a notebook and the bright controls doesn't work, but in Unity it works fine
[20:23] <ferikaiko> ummm.. i think i got what u said. Im gonna check it now. Thanks bro
[20:24] <SamuraiDio> ...does someone know how to fix that on E?
[20:26] <daftykins> SamuraiDio: look up "ubuntu backlight vendor" for some kind of config mod
[20:26] <DanielK_WMDE> hi all. when i log into a vterm, there's quite a delay between entering my password and getting a prompt. this is annoying, particularly if i want to use the vterm to recover a threashing system.
[20:27] <ibexmonj> Hi can someone help me with a networking issue, when i connect to my work VPN, the vpn client makes changes to resolv.conf and I am unable to connect to my home server, cannot reach it via ping or ssh or traceroute. Dig resolves the doain not the subdomain   and shows the authority
[20:27] <shadytv> SamuriDio, same problem here and my friend had it on his laptop. i think it's an ubuntu problem
[20:27] <SamuraiDio> daftykins, sorry but, look up where?
[20:27] <Togusa> SamuraiDio: i kind of gave up with that
[20:27] <Togusa> i have the same issues
[20:27] <Togusa> it was working better on debian
[20:27] <Togusa> (without acpi_backlight=vendor)
[20:28] <daftykins> SamuraiDio: google
[20:28] <Togusa> i had to add it here on ubuntu
[20:28] <Togusa> but i'm still having issues
[20:28] <Togusa> if you want to try it out
[20:28] <SamuraiDio> daftykins, hehe, ok
[20:28] <Togusa> just open /etc/default/grub
[20:28] <Togusa> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi_backlight=vendor"
[20:28] <Togusa> you may have something else there just add the acpi_Backlight thing
[20:29] <DanielK_WMDE> what exactly controls what is executed automatically before i get a prompt after a vterm login?
[20:29] <ollie-> helloo
[20:29] <Danato> ferikaiko: sorry, im here
[20:30] <ferikaiko> @Danato i just sent u a private message
[20:30] <ollie-> hm
[20:31] <Danato> ferikaiko: are you sure it was me? i dont see any private message
[20:31] <Danato> hello ollie
[20:31] <dattasha1tih> Anyone know how to map the right alt key as a right ctl?
[20:31] <Danato>  ollie
[20:31] <ollie-> hello
[20:31] <Danato> ** ollie- lol
[20:32] <ollie-> i have to say, ubuntu is a lot better than windows
[20:32] <daftykins> !better
[20:33] <daftykins> :D
[20:33] <SamuraiDio> trying now, Togusa
[20:33] <ollie-> oh well that was unfair
[20:33] <Togusa> i thought he wasn't listening to me anymore
[20:34] <ferikaiko> HELP ME :(( I have problem with booting my xubuntu. When i turn my laptop on, and choose the ubuntu, i see a blank page and nothing happenes. but when I turn my laptop off and on, after two times, that blank page passes and i see an error, and after that the system loads the ubuntu. what is " KVM: disabled by the BIOS" about ??! what is wrong with ubuntu 13.10 ???
[20:34] <Togusa> so i didn't tell him to run update-grub
[20:34] <Togusa> -.-
[20:34] <dattasha1tih> is xmodmap the best option?
[20:35] <zztr> having some graphics issues with a fresh install. does anyone know what kind of problem could cause this? (unpredictably erroneous font, mouse, and graphic rendering) http://tinyurl.com/n5dz3lh the live usb boots fine and does not have these issues. failing hard drive perhaps?
[20:36] <jexmex_> for some reason my update manager cannot download packages no more, it says there is a internet issue, but internet is working fine
[20:36] <OerHeks> ferikaiko, did you set the intel VT-x/AMD-V properly in your bios?
[20:36] <awesomess3> jexmex_, maybe try a different mirror?
[20:37] <ferikaiko> I dont know, what should i do ?
[20:37] <OerHeks> ferikaiko, its somewhere in the CPU section, virtualisation
[20:38] <awesomess3> ferikaiko, did you mess with your BIOs settings?
[20:38] <shadytv> hi jexmex, could you please type (into terminal) sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y
[20:38] <jexmex_> awesomess3, its not just one repo, like chrome updates will not update, ubuntu updates either
[20:38] <ferikaiko> @awesomess3 nop.
[20:38] <ferikaiko> i didnt
[20:38] <Danato> zztr: you dont have to take pictures with a camera lol jst take a screenshot. you can use PrintScreen or search for screenshot on your installed programs
[20:38] <shadytv> jexmex_, the post any errors in a pastebin
[20:39] <jexmex_> shadytv, ok doing now
[20:39] <ferikaiko> @0erheks: look, I just did what here mentioned https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[20:39] <zztr> Donato the new install is not very usable, otherwise you're right
[20:39] <ferikaiko> is this what u r talking about ?
[20:39] <SamuraiDio> Togusa, didn't work.
[20:40] <Togusa> SamuraiDio:
[20:40] <Togusa> sorry but i thought you were not listening anymore
[20:40] <Togusa> you also have to run update-grub
[20:40] <Togusa> my bad
[20:41] <SamuraiDio> Togusa, I did that
[20:41] <Togusa> i don't know then
[20:41] <SamuraiDio> the hotkeys stopped work even in tty and login screen
[20:41] <Togusa> kind of the same here
[20:41] <Togusa> they start working after some time
[20:42] <Togusa> if i hold them down
[20:42] <Togusa> but they're really laggy
[20:42] <FloodBot1> Togusa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:42] <OerHeks> ferikaiko, yes, if the bios is set disabled, you would get this error.
[20:43] <OerHeks> * execution bit/ vt-x / V
[20:43] <ferikaiko> so will it be ok now ??
[20:44] <SamuraiDio> Togusa, ias my problem is with E, only, I think it's just a hotkey problem, as the illumination module works
[20:44] <marko> heloo
[20:45] <OerHeks> ferikaiko, if you enabled this in your bios, could be yes
[20:45] <ferikaiko> what is  "* execution bit/ vt-x / V" for? ahould i enter it in terminal now ??
[20:45] <ferikaiko> should*
[20:45] <OerHeks> ferikaiko, no, you need to reboot your pc to get into the bios
[20:46] <ferikaiko> and.... ?
[20:46] <jexmex_> shadytv, that seemed to do it, thanks!
[20:46] <sevenless> So when I do sudo add-apt-repository I get "n ultimately trusted keys found"
[20:46] <sevenless> and then i can't sudo apt-get the package I want
[20:46] <shadytv> jexmex_, oh cool glad i could help :)
[20:46] <sevenless> any idea why?
[20:47] <ferikaiko> @0erheks, and then.... ??
[20:47] <xangua> sevenless: So when I do sudo add-apt-repository  - what else¿
[20:47] <sevenless> xangua: i'm trying sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin
[20:47] <OerHeks> ferikaiko, then find that option in your bios menus, enable it, and you are done.
[20:49] <ferikaiko> the option for .. ?
[20:49] <ferikaiko> OerHeks, the option for... ?
[20:49] <xangua> sevenless: i am gonna gues that you missed to update your repositories - sudo apt-get update
[20:50] <sevenless> xangua: i tried that, and it gives me a few errors with security updates. add-apt-repository gives a no-ultimately-trusted-leys error
[20:50] <OerHeks> ferikaiko, please read back, i think i gave enough information howto > * execution bit/ vt-x / V
[20:51] <iceroot> can you recommend a good WYSIWYG-HTML Editor for Ubuntu?
[20:52] <ferikaiko> OerHeks, Im sorry bro, I asked it cuz i didnt understand what is  "execution bit/ vt-x / V" . I have such a little experience in BIOS and....
[20:52] <xangua> !paste | sevenless: so all this errors you are seing and we don't, can you provide them in a paste¿
[20:52] <ferikaiko> OerHeks, thank u
[20:52] <ferikaiko> OerHeks, Im gonna chek it now
[20:53] <OerHeks> ferikaiko, maybe this google image search give you a visual about vtx/v https://www.google.nl/search?q=bios+secure+bit+vt-x&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ZCiJUtyUBInEtQbllYG4Cg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1512&bih=890
[20:55] <sevenless> xangua: http://pastebin.com/n7SZe3Eh
[20:55] <ferikaiko> OerHeks, got it. thank U a lot bro
[20:55] <sevenless> thanks for taking a look
[20:57] <xangua> sevenless: the ubuntu version you are using no longer has support
[20:57] <xangua> !natty | sevenless
[20:57] <awesomess3> 11.04 is dead?! nnnooooo whhyy god
[20:58] <sevenless> should i upgrade?
[20:58] <sevenless> i don't like unity...
[20:58] <awesomess3> I'm happy with my 10.04. Really happy.
[20:58] <sevenless> well, are there any security concerns if i keep natty
[20:59] <xangua> sevenless: there are plenty of options besides unity desktop
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> awesomess3, You have an issue?
[20:59] <OerHeks> sevenless, upgrade, or do a risky update without the lates securitypatches tru the old-version service
[20:59] <OerHeks> sevenless, but then you would have acces to packages, but would that bitcoin ppa still work for natty ?
[21:00] <OerHeks> sevenless, only lucid and up > https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/bitcoin
[21:01] <sevenless> well, it says i can upgrade to 11.10, but then when i said OK it said 11.10 is also no longer supported
[21:02] <Calinou> sevenless: reinstall is your best bet ;)
[21:02] <jrib> sevenless: you need to either use 12.04 or 13.10
[21:02] <Calinou> back up your stuff to an external drive
[21:02] <sevenless> I don't have one, can't I just upgrade
[21:03] <Calinou> 12.04 has 5 year support and is LTS, 13.10 is good if you want more recent stuff, but has 9 month support only, so you have to upgrade it regularly
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> sevenless, You can do a eol upgrade, however you nhave to change the sources list, and read what the others have said here about that path, as well it will take a lot of time to get to precise, if you get there at all.
[21:03] <sevenless> damn
[21:03] <jrib> sevenless: regardless of whether you are upgrading or not, you either have tested backups or you don't have data you care about
[21:03] <Calinou> you could do a lot of upgrades as wilee-nilee said
[21:03] <sevenless> ok, thanks
[21:03] <sevenless> cheers, i'll back up and then reinstall.
[21:06] <qwebirc69515> hey guys here is the thing: i downloaded wine, playonlinux, the ms office 2010 trial version now i have the ez activator with worked fine on windows but on pdlayonlinux i cant get it working.. any help would be much appreciated
[21:06] <qwebirc69515> which worked fine...
[21:06] <jgcampbell300> ok i used hyperterm to access management port on switches in windows way back when ... what do i use in linux ?
[21:06] <Togusa> qwebirc69515: i'm pretty sure no one here will ever help you activate software illegally
[21:06] <faLUCE> hello. I can't start X server after boot. In addition, I can't access a terminal (I only see a blank screen. If I press ctr+alt+fn I can't switch to any termina). If I press the shutdown button, the mouse cursor appears as a "x" and I can move it on the screen. But can't do anything else. What can I do?
[21:07] <qwebirc69515> hey guys here is the thing: i downloaded wine, playonlinux, the ms office 2010 trial version now i have the ez activator which worked fine on windows but on pdlayonlinux i cant get it working.. any help would be much appreciated
[21:07] <faLUCE> I can access to hd in some way.
[21:07] <DanielK_WMDE> faLUCE: try to boot from usb?
[21:08] <faLUCE> DanielK_WMDE: I can boot on another partition, and access the hd from there
[21:08] <OerHeks> !wine | qwebirc69515 and i think those guys don't help with "patching" too
[21:08] <faLUCE> DanielK_WMDE: but then?
[21:08] <shadytv> qwebirc69515, we will not help you with your illegal software please buy it then come back
[21:08] <qwebirc69515> hmm okay then whats a front end wine
[21:09] <qwebirc69515> is there a more capable wine program then playonlinux?
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> qwebirc69515, There is a pay for one I forget its name though.
[21:10] <Danato> qwebirc69515: it probably wont work at all, what that activator does is to replace some specific data on the registry, with very specific paths, which it wont find on linux. One of reasons Windows' viruses wont work on linux
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> qwebirc69515, I would just use windows for windows stuff persoanally.
[21:11] <qwebirc69515> so you guys say it has nothing to do with the capability of playonlinux?
[21:11] <bunduru> heys
[21:12] <Danato> qwebirc69515: yes, it has to do with the structure of 2 very different OSs
[21:13] <qwebirc69515> could you suggest any another wine program that might be capable
[21:13] <Danato> qwebirc69515: but you can LibreOffice or many other free office suites on linux
[21:13] <qwebirc69515> ?
[21:13] <Danato> *can use
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> qwebirc69515, I missed what your trying to run?
[21:13] <Danato> qwebirc69515: im afraid there wont be such thing
[21:13] <qwebirc69515> i know but the layout gets messed up and lacks some functions of ms office
[21:14] <qwebirc69515> iam trying to run an ez activator
[21:15] <Danato> wilee-nilee: an activator for ms office, it replaces loads of keys on windows registry to turn a trial offce to full
[21:15] <ki4ro> I just do not understand why folks come here trying to Ubuntu look act feel like Windows....if you like Windows, stick with it
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> qwebirc69515, I use MS office for my grad paper, I use windows period, I tried wine, just a waste of time comparatively.
[21:15] <ki4ro> *make
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> papers*
[21:15] <xangua> !piracy | qwebirc69515
[21:16] <qwebirc69515> hmm :(( thank you for the responses anyways
[21:16] <Totalruin98> hello?
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> hi?
[21:16] <ollie-> hi?
[21:16] <Totalruin98> hi
[21:16] <Danato> hi
[21:16] <shadytv> hi
[21:16] <awesomess3> hi
[21:16] <ollie-> hello
[21:17] <Totalruin98> i just got xchat, and im testing it
[21:17] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, finally got it installed. Had to burn the CD at a slowe speed.
[21:17] <trusktr> slower*
[21:17] <Totalruin98> what did you install, ubuntu?
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Awesome, well 32 bit helps. ;)
[21:17] <trusktr> Then it loaded right up instead of being stuck loading forever.
[21:18] <trusktr> yeah
[21:18] <Totalruin98> im running lucid linux (10.4)
[21:18] <trusktr> Totalruin98, yeah Ubunti
[21:18] <trusktr> s/i/u
[21:18] <Totalruin98> i like gnome, and my computer only has 256 mb ram
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Have you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras  to have flash and some needed media codecs?
[21:18] <Totalruin98> ubuntu is pretty good
[21:19] <awesomess3> Totalruin98, I'm running 10.04 too on a 256MB RAM laptop
[21:19] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, oh thanks.. now I know what it's called in case I didn't. :)
[21:19] <Totalruin98> does anyone here know how to run dvds on ubuntu
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> Totalruin98, What happens when you try?
[21:20] <Totalruin98> nothing
[21:20] <Totalruin98> i know i need some package
[21:20] <Totalruin98> that ubuntu cxant preinstall for legal reasons
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> Totalruin98, install the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:21] <Totalruin98> would that be sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[21:21] <shadytv> totalruin98, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> Totalruin98, Some dvd's have drm problems anyway though.
[21:21] <Totalruin98> ok thanks
[21:22] <Totalruin98> thank you
[21:25] <NTFS193> did justin bieber ride selena gomez's disco stick?
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> NTFS193, Do we have to call the ops?
[21:26] <NTFS193> did selena gomez ride justin biebers disco stick?
[21:26] <ollie-> lol
[21:26] <NTFS193> !ops | ntfs193
[21:26] <sam113101> that guy
[21:26] <NTFS193> !ops
[21:26] <NTFS193> there ops come ban me!
[21:26] <kloeri> NTFS193: enough
[21:27] <NTFS193> ban me bitch
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> hehe self flagellation
[21:27] <faLUCE> solved, nm
[21:28] <bunduru> hey varunendra just got back and tried the "nohwcrypt=1" trick but no efect =/ and i made it permanent... guess that was the easy way XD
[21:29] <JimJones> anyone can tell me how to display a website from ubuntu 12.04 ? all i need to display is a html page
[21:29] <JimJones> from a .com domain
[21:29] <JimJones> to*
[21:29] <rslarson> JimJones, rephrase your question
[21:30] <rslarson> so you want to host a webpage?
[21:30] <k1l_> JimJones: you mean: open a browser and type the url into it and see the website?
[21:30] <JimJones> rslarson, k1l_ yes
[21:30] <rslarson> You need a webserver such as Apache or Nginx
[21:30] <k1l_> JimJones: ubuntu got firefox as standard. use that like you would on windows
[21:31] <JimJones> its just a html page... no need for mysql database
[21:31] <rslarson> no
[21:31] <rslarson> I use Nginx for my webserver
[21:31] <rslarson> I found it much easier to use than Apache
[21:32] <JimJones> how easy is it to setup ngix and display a simple html page?
[21:32] <reisio> it also performs better
[21:32] <rslarson> super easy
[21:32] <reisio> JimJones: pretty easy
[21:32] <rslarson> just use apt-get to install it
[21:33] <JimJones> kk doing to now
[21:33] <rslarson> The configs are stored at /etc/nginx/
[21:34] <JimJones> can I install it on root?
[21:34] <rslarson> I woudn't
[21:34] <JimJones> sorry im a linux noob :/
[21:34] <rslarson> never run anything as root
[21:34] <JimJones> hmm
[21:34] <rslarson> unless you are 110% sure you know what you are doing
[21:35] <rslarson> you will want to sudo it
[21:37] <ollie-> i remember when i was a linux nood
[21:37] <ollie-> good old times
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> nood? how far have you actually come lol. ;)
[21:38] <unicornjedi> Hey guys, I need help. I am using ubuntu 13.10 and I want to change the root directory folder 'var/www' back to the default permissions
[21:39] <bekks> unicornjedi: So which permissions does it have?
[21:39] <ollie-> im still a nood ;D
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[21:39] <unicornjedi> bekks, it is assigned to "group: sudo"
[21:39] <bekks> unicornjedi: why did you do that?
[21:40] <unicornjedi> bekks, I wanted change the permissions on that folder so I don't have to type in 'sudo nautilus' whenever I wanted to change something in var/www
[21:41] <bekks> unicornjedi: sudo nautilus is a horrible approach.
[21:41] <ollie-> chmod 777?
[21:41] <ollie-> or change the group..
[21:41] <unicornjedi> bekks, well... how can I change the permissions with a better approach
[21:41] <bekks> ollie-: 777 on /var/www is even more horrible than sudo nautilus.
[21:42] <Mitizaro> hello there!!
[21:42] <Mitizaro> can anyone give me a bit of a hand? i'm still kinda new to teh Linux family
[21:42] <ollie-> haha, i just thought that
[21:42] <ollie-> unicornjedi you could change the owner to you?
[21:42] <ki4ro> Mitizaro, just ask your question
[21:42] <bekks> unicornjedi: change the permissions to root:root 0755
[21:42] <ollie-> eg, chown username /var/www
[21:43] <harris> what is video decode for ubuntu touch and what is it used for
[21:43] <unicornjedi> ollie-,  Ill try it out
[21:43] <k1l_> !touch | harris please ask there for touch questions
[21:43] <Mitizaro> thank you.   I can't login as root under tty1 ... after typing "sudo -i" and my password... i get "authentication failed"....  ssh and su are the same. I can't get into tty1 as root.  I'm attempting to install nvidia drivers.
[21:44] <ollie-> is your password right?
[21:44] <Mitizaro> I have AMD 2,6hrz, Nvidia GeForce 5900ZT, 1,3GB Ram - its kinda old PC (~10 years old)
[21:44] <Mitizaro> yes
[21:44] <Mitizaro> i can get into root
[21:44] <Mitizaro> under
[21:44] <Mitizaro> normal terminal
[21:44] <FloodBot1> Mitizaro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:44] <ollie-> oh
[21:44] <shadytv> hi Mitizaro, are you using the first created account on the system?
[21:45] <Mitizaro> yes
[21:45] <Mitizaro> i do
[21:45] <unicornjedi> ollie-,  it says the group is 'sudo'
[21:45] <ollie-> i will see how you can add another ground unicornjedi
[21:46] <enen92> hi everyone. Can someone tell me how I can check the ammount of ram that my laptop's motherboard is limited to?
[21:46] <unicornjedi> ollie-, I guess I'll revert the folder /var/www back to root permissions..... should I do - chown 0755 /var/www
[21:47] <ollie-> unicornjedi, do you want to be able to edit files without being root?
[21:47] <unicornjedi> ollie-, Yes
[21:47] <Mitizaro> and if i happen to try some command in  tty1 before i have logined as root -- it is "interpreting" it like i'm trying to login (and asking for password, then  unable, etc)
[21:47] <spence> gr33n7007h: personal experience with the Alfa's?
[21:47] <bekks> enen92: By reading the manual of your laptop.
[21:47] <spence> what would be the best usb wifi dongle that supports ap/monitor mode? (north america)
[21:48] <ollie-> unicornjedi when you are root (using the nautilus)  click on the folder, and click on the permissions tab
[21:48] <dreamy_> is it eazy to compile lynx? anyone helping?
[21:48] <shadytv> spence, "best" is a very subjective term
[21:49] <unicornjedi> so i should do sudo su, then sudo nautilus?
[21:49] <Mitizaro> my goal is to close X and then install nvidia.  if u know any other way of doing it?
[21:49] <unicornjedi> ollie-, should I do sudo su, then sudo nautilus?
[21:49] <shadytv> unicorn jedi, leave out the "sudo su"
[21:50] <ollie-> unicornjedi sudo nautilus will bring up nautilus as root
[21:50] <enen92> thanks bekks...thought there was a way from within the os
[21:50] <unicornjedi> shadytv, ollie,  okay
[21:50] <unicornjedi> ollie-, okay im in the permissions tab
[21:51] <Mitizaro> anyone?
[21:51] <spence> shadytv: exactly... i would like opinions within my constraints.
[21:51] <ollie-> unicornjedi, if im correct, there is a group part, with a list?
[21:51] <ollie-> it should be on root?
[21:52] <ollie-> or sudo
[21:52] <unicornjedi> ollie-,  it was on sudo... should I change it unicornjedi?
[21:53] <shadytv> Mitizaro, you are not going to be able to install anything without root access.
[21:53] <Richh> display looks blurry in fresh lubuntu install with GeForce 7600 GT, how do i adjust display settings such as refresh rate etc, can i get above 1024x768 res?
[21:53] <ollie-> unicornjedi, change it to that, then change the permission to read/write.
[21:54] <shadytv> Mitizaro, if you are on the first created account, it's more than likely human error
[21:55] <unicornjedi> ollie-, okay. I changed the group to unicornjedi. I changed the access to 'create and delete file'. I changed permissions to files to Read and Write. I changed permissions to folders to 'access files'.
[21:55] <bekks> unicornjedi: Thats a bad idea too.
[21:56] <ollie-> unicornjedi, you should have just changed the group settings, so that only people in that group can read/write
[21:56] <bunduru> Tried "nohwcrypt=1" trick and to compile and install the backported driver (3.12-1), but the card is still acting crazy =(
[21:56] <bekks> Why dont you add yourself to the www-data group and grant permission to the group to r/w?
[21:56] <ollie-> im not sure what it looks like, im using xfce
[21:57] <Flonka> Hi, having some questions installing dual boot setup win8/ubuntu64bit: The laptop im on has a hybrid hard drive, when selecting the "install alongside win8" options during install, only the ssd hdd is visible in the drop down list. When going into advanced partition setup, there are alot of partiions containing win loader etc. The problem here is that the empty space of the big partion is
[21:57] <Flonka> unknown. So I'm kinda hesitant to trying to create some new partiions for my Ubuntu installation, in case this will overwrite anything on my existing win8 setup. Any suggestions?
[21:57] <auronandace> !uefi | Flonka
[21:58] <Flonka> I set up UEFI to be used in the BIOS
[22:01] <Flonka> But does look like a good page to read up on , thx.
[22:01] <unicornjedi> ollie-, it works
[22:01] <ollie-> great :D
[22:01] <unicornjedi> ollie-, Im able to change files and folders ... but not subfolders :(
[22:02] <bekks> unicornjedi: Then change the permissions of the subfolders too.
[22:02] <ollie-> ^
[22:02] <unicornjedi> okey dokey artichoke
[22:03] <ollie-> if you create a new user,  and want to access the files the same way, do the same method, or put them in the same group
[22:03] <shadytv> unicornjedi, you can do what bekks said by adding the -R option to chmod
[22:04] <unicornjedi> shadytv, so chmod -r unicornjedi /var/www ?
[22:04] <ollie-> capital R
[22:04] <shadytv> -R
[22:05] <ollie-> Hope it works for you :D
[22:05] <shadytv> also you'll need the permissions like read, right and execute
[22:05] <auronandace> write
[22:06] <unicornjedi> thanks guys! Im on my way to pimping out my website in /var/www!
[22:07] <wafflejock> unicornjedi: congrats if you're new to web dev check out codeacademy.com very helpful tutorials (I'm fairly seasoned and still got a few things out of it)
[22:07] <unicornjedi> wafflejock, eeyy im learning HTML there! I am 40% done with the course. Right now trying to install kompozer to make webpages
[22:08] <sda> Hi all, question, i have a crypt hd connected to my pc. A python process seems not able to write on this disk, the proces should run as root. what can it be?
[22:10] <rslarson> sda, is the drive decrypted on your computer?
[22:12] <sda> rslarson: yes, from terminal i am able to have complete access to the drive
[22:13] <unicornjedi> shadytv, do you know how to get name for a server without buying a domain name? For example, I want my website to be 'unicornjedi.awesome' instead of http://111.11.111.111
[22:13] <rslarson> this may seem dumb, but are you running it as root or using sudo to start it?
[22:13] <wafflejock> unicornjedi: would be a bit wary of Kompozer, I haven't used it before but lots of WYSIWYG editors for websites end up making some pretty messy code that ends up being more difficult to manually fix than it's worth... that said it would still probably serve to help with learning and throwing together some ideas before flesing them out by hand...
[22:13] <wafflejock> unicornjedi: you can modify your /etc/hosts if you just care about it working on one computer
[22:14] <wafflejock> unicornjedi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_(file)
[22:14] <FuuqUmist> hi, i was setting up the email client, is there a way to verify an SSL certificate?
[22:16] <AceRimmer> how do you get 24bit color X -configure dosn't seem to work and there is no xorg.conf i can find
[22:16] <auronandace> !xorgconf | AceRimmer
[22:17] <wafflejock> FuuqUmist: if you require a valid certificate I believe you'll need to get one from a Certificate Authority (CA) like Verisign or GoDaddy or something, I don't believe a self signed certificate will be seen as valid unless the server that created it and verifies it's authenticity is in the trusted CAs for a system
[22:18] <backbox> oooie
[22:19] <backbox> alguem ?
[22:19] <backbox> .-.
[22:19] <AceRimmer> why can't you set color depth from the desktop? it seems a common thing
[22:19] <xangua> !pt | backbox
[22:20] <backbox> #ubuntu-br
[22:23] <FuuqUmist> wafflejock do you know where i can verify the fingerprint of my SSL Certificate to make sure it is authentic?
[22:24] <wafflejock> FuuqUmist: haven't done this myself FYI http://askubuntu.com/questions/156620/how-to-verify-the-ssl-fingerprint-by-command-line-wget-curl
[22:25] <Renzatic> Hey everyone, I've been having problems recently, and I've got it mostly fixed (never screw around with GRUB), but there's one thing floating around that might give me problems I'm worried about...
[22:25] <Renzatic> wall of text incoming...
[22:25] <Renzatic> matt@matt1:~$ sudo update-grub
[22:25] <Renzatic> Generating grub.cfg ...
[22:25] <FloodBot1> Renzatic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <Renzatic> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-33-generic
[22:25] <Renzatic> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-33-generic
[22:27] <Industrial> My webcam works in Cheese but not in Flash on websites. What do I do?
[22:27] <k1l_> !paste | Renzatic
[22:28] <Renzatic> sorry, it's been awhile since I've IRCed, and I've forgotten the proper etiquette
[22:29] <Renzatic> Okay, this is my problem...specifically those last few lines. I posted the rest of the update as a just-in-case measure
[22:29] <Renzatic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6434611/
[22:30] <Renzatic> I'm finally able to update again, but those last lines worry me
[22:31] <Renzatic> is it worth fretting over, should I do anything more, or finally be happy that things are working as they should be?
[22:31] <Renzatic> and if it is worth fretting over, could someone give me a link/suggestion on how I'd go about fixing it?
[22:32] <jubale> I'm getting "website disabled" for screenlets.org in Chrome and Firefox, but I've checked the site is up. What is likely going on?
[22:32] <reisio> jubale: checked how
[22:32] <Ben64> Renzatic: you should probably get it fixed
[22:33] <DrGrov> Is it much risk with enabling TRIM support on a SSD in 13.10 64-bit?
[22:33] <linuxuz3r> does anyone know how to install selinux in ubuntu?
[22:35] <DrGrov> With risk meaning the chance to mess around in the fstab... :D
[22:35] <k1l_> linuxuz3r: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux
[22:35] <Renzatic> Ben64: what should my first steps be to do so?
[22:36] <g105b> I need to leave my computer on for a few days to process a very large file via a cli app - how do I ensure that it won't go into a power-saving mode, or suspend, or power-down hard drives, etc. without any user input?
[22:36] <Ben64> Renzatic: well it says where to check
[22:36] <reisio> g105b: disable the power saving stuff
[22:36] <sda_> hi all, question, when i mount a external crypt hd thru UNITY  mount it with nosuid parameter. Can I modify the paramether how Unity mount disks?
[22:36] <g105b> reisio, the only thing I can see in settings is regarding auto-suspend.
[22:37] <reisio> does it usually power save on its own?
[22:37] <g105b> reisio, i have noticed hard drives powering down after a very long wait, but this pc is usually just a workstation, so haven't tested it
[22:38] <reisio> well, disks can be different
[22:38] <reisio> some power down when they are not in USE
[22:38] <reisio> that is, no processes using files on them at all
[22:39] <reisio> which wouldn't be an issue in this case
[22:39] <g105b> hmmm, the process will be whipping the disk
[22:39] <g105b> anyway... as far as Ubuntu is concerned, everything should be OK if I turn off power saving in the system settings?
[22:39] <reisio> yup
[22:39] <DrGrov> Having some Flash issues with Firefox 25.0 in 13.10. I can not access the Flash settings, it keeps showing up if I want to allow the camera etc. when going on YouTube. But I can not change anymore the "tabs" and settings. It is frozen somehow.
[22:39] <reisio> wouldn't surprise me if it's not even on to an extent that will matter to you
[22:39] <DrGrov> Anyway to reset the Flash player?
[22:39] <reisio> unless it's a laptop
[22:40] <Renzatic> Ben64: Okay, I'm in /etc/grub.d, and assuming my intiial problem had to do with headers, I opened the "headers" file to check out line 109
[22:40] <Danato> hey I created a file called #SHELL on my home folder without knowing that it would interfere with my /bin/bash but now how do i fix that?
[22:40] <Renzatic> which is  simply "serial=0;"
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, How'd you install flash?
[22:42] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, can you help
[22:43] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: I installed flash with the flashplugin.
[22:43] <DrGrov> from synaptic and when I originally installed 13.10
[22:43] <DrGrov> I can check the exact file name I have installed
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, I have never messed with it is all.
[22:43] <Ben64> Renzatic: well something was modified in one of the files, and probably something you did, do you remember?
[22:43] <linuxuz3r> i installed selinux at the same time it installed a bunch of packages how do i remove selinux and the packages that came with it
[22:43] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee,
[22:43] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: flashplugin-installer was/is the package I got from the official repos
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Try running sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras to get all the codecs, and accept or turn down the ms font, thatis how I get flash and the rest.
[22:44] <xangua> DrGrov: that is a bug that will never be fixed, but there is an option, adobe-flashplugin package from the Partner repository has incluided a gtk aplication to manage flash permisions
[22:44] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: I have Flash but the menu is "stuck" on a YouTube video and I can not change any view in the options.
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, sudo apt-get purge selinux
[22:45] <DrGrov> xangua: Ah, you mean the adobe-flash-properties-gtk?
[22:45] <xangua> DrGrov: yes, that one
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Yes I read the problem there are other codecs needed I believe try doing what I suggested.
[22:45] <Renzatic> the problems initially started when I attempted to fix the boot splash issues I was having by installing some bootloader program that came recommended
[22:45] <DrGrov> xangua: Ok, I need to restart Firefox then of course and then run the flash properties?
[22:45] <Renzatic> can't remember the exact name, and I've since uninstalled it
[22:46] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Ah, so there is something missing? I have the ubuntu-restricted-extras already installed
[22:46] <Renzatic> everything ran fine, but I could no longer update anything without getting a ton of dependency errors thrown at me
[22:46] <Renzatic> so I looked that up, and found I had to comment out this line...
[22:46] <xangua> DrGrov: and install adobe-flasplugin, yes
[22:46] <Renzatic> #GRUB_GFXMODE=>>1680x1050-24<<
[22:46] <Renzatic> in /ect/default/grub
[22:46] <DrGrov> xangua: Yes, I need to reinstall the adobe-flashplugin or?
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, That would have installed flash, did you do it again with the flashplugin-installer?
[22:46] <Renzatic> once I did that, I've been able to update just fine, though now I'm getting the syntax error when I update grub
[22:47] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: No, I did not redo it yet. I might have to reinstall the flashplugin-installer then it seems.
[22:47] <DrGrov> xangua: I go and pick the adobe-flash-properties-gtk package now then and then reinstall the flashplugin-installer?
[22:47] <DrGrov> xangua: *.
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Do you have any addons in FF like noscript or adblock?
[22:48] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: No addons like noscript or adblock.
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Thats about it for me I never have this problem other than some videos just don't play is all.
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> htlm5 etc
[22:49] <jubale> I used two web services, one being "down or just me" and they both said the site is up.
[22:49] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Okay. I just have a minor glitch with it, does not disturb too much. Videos are playing fine so really not a big thing but I like to control the flash properties somehow.
[22:49] <xangua> DrGrov: flash properties will install adobe-flashplugin and uninstall flashplugin-installer
[22:49] <DrGrov> xangua: And the adobe-flashplugin is then better than the flashplugin-installer?
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, So it is the right click adobe access your missing?
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> you're*
[22:50] <AceRimmer> Xbmc broke out the box? Just installed through Ubuntu's installer.
[22:50] <xangua> DrGrov: is the same, adoble-flashplugin is just from Partner repository and it also incluide the gtk propertie app
[22:50] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Yes, those I am missing. When right-clicking I try to open Settings but it just freezes up on the part where I can select to share mic/camera with youtube or not and does not move out from the way.
[22:51] <wafflejock> jubale: can you nslookup the web address in a command line if not DNS is having an issue resolving the IP if so can you ping the address
[22:51] <DrGrov> xangua: Ah okay, that explains it. Then I will get the adobe-flashplugin instead and the flash properties gtk. I have to remove residue configs from the flashplugin-installer first though?
[22:51] <AceRimmer> It seems odd to install a unusable package.
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Could it be a a hardware up for the use problem, I would install htop and check if anything is maxing out the cpu or ram.
[22:51] <wafflejock> DrGrov: if you're testing with Chrome beware it maintains it's own internal flash player version
[22:51] <Danato> can anybody help me with this? "Warning: Could not find '/bin/bash', starting '/bin/sh' instead.  Please check your profile settings."
[22:51] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Testing with Firefox, not using any other browser than Firefox.
[22:51] <wafflejock> DrGrov: if you're not testing with Chrome I might suggest giving it a shot as well to see if that FP version suffers the same issue
[22:52] <AceRimmer> Is there an older version of ubuntu that still works with xbmc?
[22:52] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: I doubt hardware being an issue, completely new hardware from 2012 and 2013 in this new machine.
[22:52] <wafflejock> AceRimmer: what version are you having issue with?
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> AceRimmer, Older than?
[22:53] <DrGrov> I will remove the flashplugin-installer at least directly to get that out of the way.
[22:54] <AceRimmer> I don't it is the version so much as I can't change the color depth in ubuntu
[22:54] <AceRimmer> This version anyway
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> AceRimmer, To much to actually answer what version?
[22:54] <DrGrov> I just can use sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer via terminal or same in synaptic without needing to remove anything else connected to flash?
[22:55] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: But please explain it more thoroughly what you mean with hardware, I am not a native speaker.
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Some people use older computers that just might be working hard for some tasks is all.
[22:55] <AceRimmer> Want to say 13 i cant find in the interface
[22:56] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Ah okay :) Now I am following your thoughts.
[22:56] <bekks> AceRimmer: lsb_release -a
[22:56] <dhci> are there any examples of python usb programs translated to C language
[22:56] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: I just removed the flashplugin-installer. Can I somehow verify that Flash is really gone without leaving residue configs? Checked with Synaptic under Status -> but did not show residual configs.
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Htop will tell you what is running and the draw on the hardware, with a freeze, I just wonder if something is not using the chip or ram hard mistakenly.
[22:57] <DrGrov> wafflejock: I really hope not that I have to get Chrome since I am a bit anti-Google at the moment :/
[22:57] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Nothing is freezing during video playback in 1080p. Not a single issue.
[22:57] <AceRimmer> 12.04
[22:57] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: But you mean it could still somehow freeze without me noticing it completely?
[22:57] <wafflejock> DrGrov: yeah not saying as a permanent solution if it isn't your browser of choice that's fine, just another avenue to test
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Ah 1080, try the adobe control at a lower number.
[22:58] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: The adobe control?
[22:58] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: But I tested with 720p and 480p which is auto as well.
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, You want to get to the flash control right but it freezes?
[22:58] <DrGrov> I can retest of course
[22:58] <AceRimmer> From the desktop theres no way to change color depth in ubuntu?
[22:58] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Ah yes, I get into it by right-clicking but then I can not navigate inside those settings.
[22:59] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Appreciate the thought :)
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Right, 1080 is just a high viewing situation is all, but if you have tried at a lower that is good.
[22:59] <bekks> AceRimmer: The default color depth is 24bit.
[22:59] <DrGrov> How can I now verify that flashplugin-installer is really gone from the system?
[23:00] <bekks> DrGrov: Uninstall it, check the availability in about:plugins
[23:00] <AceRimmer> Xbmc won't start claiming its not 24bit
[23:00] <DrGrov> bekks: Will do. I hope it is gone now so I can reinstall the other Flash.
[23:00] <bekks> AceRimmer: then check the logs.
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> AceRimmer, 12.04 is the last supported ubuntu with a desktop, only thing below is the 10.04 server.
[23:00] <bekks> DrGrov: Which other flash?
[23:00] <ibexmonj> can someone help with the a networking problem
[23:01] <jubale> nslookup was successful.
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> ibexmonj, probably state the issues to the channel.
[23:01] <DrGrov> bekks: The other option in the repos so I can get the adobe-flash-properties-gtk installed as well.
[23:02] <bekks> !anyone | ibexmonj
[23:02] <DrGrov> bekks: No indication in FF when checking about:plugins of any Flash residue
[23:03] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: If I reinstall now the flash, which one should I go with? The flashplugin-installer again or the bundle of adobe-flash-properties-gtk with the adobe-flashplugin?
[23:03] <AceRimmer> There's no way to change bit depth fron the desktop . where is color depth set in ubuntu?
[23:03] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: I could probably remove the hardware acceleration if I reinstall since the specs can handle 1080p without issues?
[23:04] <ibexmonj> ok so, i have a dynamic dns setup to reach my home server remotely. Now this works absolutely fine except for the case when i connect to my work VPN which overwrites the resolv.conf and then i cant reach the home server via ping or ssh or even traceroute, can anyone offer any advice ?
[23:04] <bekks> DrGrov: 1080p in flash? Good luck :)
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Not sure I just use the restricted extras and have had no problems, I generally only know issues where I have had failure.
[23:05] <DrGrov> bekks: No but... Argh! :) You know what I mean, watching 1080p videos on YT with flash.
[23:05] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: I just thought having the flash-plugin-properties-gtk is handy and at least worth a try.
[23:05] <kassim> kassimpausu
[23:06] <DrGrov> bekks: Hardware rendering could also compromise everything? I heard that it has caused issues before
[23:06] <etherock121212> hey, me again.  i got it installed, but my second monitor isn't showing anything. when i boot windows it shows things, but ubuntu doesn't detect it. i tried clicking detect monitor, but i see nothing. when running ubuntu, my second monitor says cable not connected, although i double checked by securing the connection.
[23:06] <etherock121212> any ideas?
[23:07] <bekks> DrGrov: I'd not use that outdated flash. Install chrome, it ships a current flash version.
[23:07] <DrGrov> xangua: With the adobe flash properties gtk I can easily set the same configs then for Firefox without needing to access the Flash plugin inside FF?
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, I have the feeling from bekks response that exspecting flash to run a 1080 view is just pushing it, in-spite of it seeming to work, it may be that the additional draw of the flash access is just more than it can handle. Linux adobe flash is far behind compared to what is the newest for windows.
[23:07] <DrGrov> bekks: Ah, that I could still do somehow... Not too fond about the privacy though with chrome.
[23:08] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: But I have not had issues before... It is so strange somehow that I can not get it to work now. The specs on the machine can handle it without problems.
[23:08] <DrGrov> But yes, I might have to install Chrome then despite I do not feel too comfortable with their privacy stuff.
[23:09] <xangua> DrGrov: i wouldn't say easily, you have to manually enter and set permissions for every website url
[23:09] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: I have had up the Flash properties in FF but the second time I wanted to access it then it froze.
[23:10] <DrGrov> xangua: Ah okay, that is too tricky for me these days then. I just want things to work :)
[23:10] <Danato> Hey I really need some help. I ran the command "cat > $ SHELL" (I'll explain later) and that messed up everything, after a reboot I cant login anymore
[23:10] <jgcampbell300> has anyone here seen a router that acts as nas, network monitor, remote proxy, and authentication server  ?? something like this was described to be by a tech friend but he didnt get the name of it
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, I suggest looking closer at the view of it has worked before from a scientific empirical standpoint, it would not stand in any research attempt.
[23:10] <DrGrov> xangua: Do not have the time anymore to spend, if I would have I definitely would do it.
[23:10] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: No, that is true. There is no validity in my trial by error attempts :)
[23:10] <jgcampbell300> he did say he thought it was based on linux
[23:10] <ibexmonj> ok so, i have a dynamic dns setup to reach my home server remotely. Now this works absolutely fine except for case when i connect to my work VPN which overw
[23:11] <ibexmonj> rites the resolv.conf and then i cant reach the home server via ping or ssh or even traceroute, can anyone offer any advice ?  Dig does resolve the domain b
[23:11] <OerHeks> Danato, well, explain now?
[23:11] <ibexmonj> ut not the subdomain which i am using as a FQDN
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Cool, just wanted to make sure you knew that. ;)
[23:11] <etherock121212> any ideas?
[23:11] <etherock121212> hey, me again.  i got it installed, but my second monitor isn't showing anything. when i boot windows it shows things, but ubuntu doesn't detect it. i tried clicking detect monitor, but i see nothing. when running ubuntu, my second monitor says cable not connected, although i double checked by securing the connection.
[23:11] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: I know but I really want this to work on FF instead of needing to go to Chrome :/
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, I never use chrome I understand.
[23:12] <etherock121212> please, can anyone help?
[23:12] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: I will test once more and install the flashplugin-installer and just hope it does work and disable the hardware acceleration and hope for the best.
[23:12] <AceRimmer> Even with the x server down booting from the cl xorg won't create a xorg.conf ubuntu. Is there a way to set bit depth?
[23:12] <ibexmonj> if anyone can help have a dynamic dns setup to reach my home server remotely. Now this works absolutely fine except for case when i connect to my work VPN w
[23:12] <ibexmonj> hich overwrites the resolv.conf and then i cant reach the home server via ping or ssh or even traceroute, can anyone offer any advice ?  Dig does resolve th
[23:12] <ibexmonj> e domain but not the subdomain which i am using as a FQDN
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> Chrome is fine I just don't need it myself
[23:13] <Danato> OerHeks: its a linux excercise I found on a page "Try to create and delete a file called $SHELL". I created it...
[23:13] <Cyb3> Is there any awesome color schemes for XChat?
[23:14] <Danato> OerHeks: and no, I ddnt delete it
[23:14] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: No luck at all, it just again when right-click froze on me.
[23:14] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: I will try the other flash plugin then from the repos.
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Good luck want to see you succeed, you are a dr I believe in what?
[23:17] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: No, not in that way a Dr. I am a Dr in Swedish snus, smokeless tobacco that is :)
[23:17] <ibexmonj> if anyone can help with an issue im having,i  have a dynamic dns setup to reach my home server remotely. Now this works absolutely fine except for case when
[23:17] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: I am eating this smokeless tobacco like it is candy :)
[23:17] <ibexmonj>  i connect to my work VPN which overwrites the resolv.conf and then i cant reach the home server via ping or ssh or even traceroute, can anyone offer any ad
[23:17] <ibexmonj> vice ?  Dig does resolve the domain but not the subdomain which i am using as a FQDN
[23:17] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: I mean :/
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Heh, mine is the smokable, just curious as I'm trying to end up with PH.d is all.
[23:18] <ibexmonj> can anyone please help with  my issue I just posted above ?
[23:18] <Mitizaro> can someone assist me?? i can't log in with root at TTY1!
[23:19] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: :)
[23:19] <k1l_> Mitizaro: there is no root pw
[23:19] <Mitizaro> huh?
[23:19] <Mitizaro> well
[23:19] <k1l_> !root | Mitizaro
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> Mitizaro, This Ubuntu, a server?
[23:20] <Mitizaro> okay i realized that - sudo is just root emulation
[23:20] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: If this adobeflash-plugin does not do the trick, what are my options then? Flash works in FF but I can not get into the settings, no biggie but still irritating.
[23:20] <Mitizaro> lol
[23:20] <Mitizaro> this is UBUNTU 10.04
[23:20] <Mitizaro> when i hit tty1
[23:20] <Mitizaro> cuz i want to install nvidia -- i have to "authenticate"
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> Mitizaro, the server, the desktop is eol
[23:20] <k1l_> Mitizaro: 10.04 is out of support for desktop
[23:21] <ibexmonj> if anyone can help with an issue im having,i  have a dynamic dns setup to reach my home server remotely. Now this works absolutely fine except for case when
[23:21] <Mitizaro> maverick merrkat
[23:21] <ibexmonj>  i connect to my work VPN which overwrites the resolv.conf and then i cant reach the home server via ping or ssh or even traceroute, can anyone offer any ad
[23:21] <ibexmonj> vice ?  Dig does resolve the domain but not the subdomain which i am using as a FQDN
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Not really empirically, hehe sure to be honest
[23:21] <k1l_> Mitizaro: maverick is out of support too
[23:21] <Mitizaro> oops
[23:21] <Mitizaro> lycid lynx*
[23:21] <k1l_> Mitizaro: what does "lsb_release -r"  give you?
[23:22] <Mitizaro> i cant - when i use "sudo -i" and it DOES require password - but when i type it it says it is failed and wants it again
[23:22] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: No, true :)
[23:22] <Mitizaro> funny thing - no matter WHAT i type in tty1
[23:22] <Mitizaro> it ALWAYS wants password afterwards
[23:22] <Mitizaro> sec
[23:22] <Mitizaro> release is 10.04
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> Mitizaro, Does not matter really it is not supported.
[23:22] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: The same with the adobeflash-plugin :/
[23:22] <Mitizaro> so what does that mean?
[23:22] <Mitizaro> that its not supported?
[23:23] <k1l_> Mitizaro: that is out of support since some months now for desktop. you should make a upgrade to 12.04
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> Mitizaro, No help here.
[23:23] <k1l_> !eol | Mitizaro
[23:23] <bunduru> how can i check what was going during boot? Because i'm almost sure there was some problem with ndiswrapper...
[23:23] <ibexmonj> if anyone can help with an issue im having,i  have a dynamic dns setup to reach my home server remotely. Now this works absolutely fine except for case when
[23:23] <ibexmonj>  i connect to my work VPN which overwrites the resolv.conf and then i cant reach the home server via ping or ssh or even traceroute, can anyone offer any ad
[23:23] <ibexmonj> vice ?  Dig does resolve the domain but not the subdomain which i am using as a FQDN
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> !patience | ibexmonj read carefully
[23:24] <AceRimmer> Where is xorg.conf? Ubuntu forums speaks of it. The its not in the location the manual speaks of.
[23:24] <Mitizaro> so...   the system is not working properly because it is out of date   OR you do not want to help me because it is no longer supported?
[23:24] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: But now I figured it out :)
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> Mitizaro, The channel rules are not to help on end of life release in general.
[23:24] <ibexmonj> wilee-nilee sorry about that, i have searched but dont see a similar issue
[23:25] <bunduru> the driver seems to be installed but i have no wifi available :s
[23:25] <k1l_> AceRimmer: if you need a xorg.conf just make one
[23:25] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: I checked with adobe-flash-properties-gtk that I have disabled all the stuff I do not want. But can not open the settings in FF anyhow but I can now at least control what is happening.
[23:25] <Mitizaro> i see... ubuntu is not really the most supportive linux then. strange
[23:25] <MonkeyDust> Mitizaro  the channel does not support something's that dead
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> ibexmonj, No biggie, you just have to undersatnd that we don;t know sometimes, or someone who does is not here...ect.
[23:25] <Mitizaro> regardless - i get it. thanks for everything
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> etc*
[23:25] <MonkeyDust> that's*
[23:25] <k1l_> Mitizaro: just upgrade to 12.04
[23:25] <ibexmonj> wilee-nilee i understans
[23:25] <Mitizaro> hm... i wonder.
[23:26] <AceRimmer> Nope xorg just returns errors in ubuntu even when booted the cl
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> Mitizaro, Ubuntu supports releases not end of life its as simple as that.
[23:26] <gclark85> I am having trouble configuring a shutdown script for chef in ubuntu, anyone good with this stuff?
[23:26] <Mitizaro> yeah i know
[23:26] <Mitizaro> i'm not stupid
[23:26] <Mitizaro> its just kinda
[23:26] <k1l_> Mitizaro: you dont need to blame ubuntu for you running a release that is EOL.
[23:26] <Mitizaro> u know we all want the shiny cars? well mine is 11 years old and MAYBE if i could i'd be on 13.10...  so maybe i'm in 10.04 for a reason, but as i said - thanks for everything.
[23:27] <Mitizaro> i know.
[23:27] <fishduck> how do I unlink a link?
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> Mitizaro,  upgrade to 12.04, if it is a unity issue there is a fallback de quite similar to gnome 2
[23:27] <AceRimmer> Xorg -configure does not work in 12.04
[23:27] <MonkeyDust> Mitizaro  that car does not have spare parts anymore, it's not supported
[23:27] <gclark85> basically my script works manually, in rc.local (on startup) but not if I link it to rc0.d
[23:27] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: That would work yes? I can see all settings on all websites through that separate adobe-flash-properties-gtk?
[23:28] <DrGrov> xangua: Sorry to bother you again.
[23:28] <Mitizaro> well hopefully there are still some mechanics - which are here to help... and ARE using their final 5min on the PC   ALL to help me.     which is what i respect utmostly.  don't worry - i'm not gonna bug u/flam/spam.
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, No idea to be honest, without personal experience I can only guess.
[23:28] <DrGrov> xangua: But it would work as I described that I check the Flash settings with the properties software and then just use Flash in FF without accessing the properties?
[23:29] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: No worries :)
[23:29] <AceRimmer> There doesn't seem to be a way to alter the xserver in ubuntu like you would in other ditros
[23:29] <k1l_> Mitizaro: not having any security updates anymore is more than just having a shiny desktop. so please upgrade to 12.04 which gets 5 year support from april 2012 on
[23:29] <xangua> DrGrov: did it work¿
[23:29] <Eliyahu> does ubuntu have troubles with webcams?
[23:29] <Mitizaro> and i guess its okay to leave youtube lagging on 240p, right?
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> !details | Eliyahu
[23:29] <AceRimmer> It not documented as far as i can see
[23:30] <k1l_> Mitizaro: that has nothing to do with running a EOL release
[23:30] <bekks> pARESit: Of course there is. In other distros, you use the same graphics driver settings application as in Ubuuntu.
[23:30] <k1l_> Mitizaro: nothing
[23:30] <xangua> DrGrov: yes, you have to use the gtk  properties to set the permisions
[23:30] <DrGrov> xangua: It worked so far that I have the possibility to check the properties that I have no mic and webcam enabled at least. It plays the videos without issues in FF.
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> Eliyahu, some yes some no it is a matter of available drivers in the end.
[23:30] <DrGrov> xangua: Ok, that is very ok by me :) I like to tweak this type of stuff. It is not much at all but a bit. I could of course try to delete all the info it collected thus far with settings, local storage etc. and try again to work it.
[23:31] <bekks> AceRimmer: It is perfectly documented.
[23:31] <bekks> AceRimmer: Which graphics hardware do you have?
[23:31] <minimec> Eliyahu: NEwer webcams normally use the uvc (universal video class) standard. So all these should be plug and play. Older ones on the other hand...
[23:31] <Mitizaro> um
[23:31] <Mitizaro> maybe 12.04 is too heavy to prerephraze
[23:31] <Mitizaro> for my pc
[23:31] <k1l_> Mitizaro: if you need some more lightweight desktop see the lubuntu desktop.
[23:31] <Mitizaro> i was on XUBUNTU 13.10
[23:32] <Mitizaro> indeed, i couldn't even play youtube
[23:32] <gclark85> can anyone help me with S vs K when it comes to custom scripts?
[23:32] <ademoglu> guys when my computer down what can i do ?
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | ademoglu
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> gclark85, That anyone bot was for you, sorry ademoglu
[23:33] <gclark85> psh
[23:33] <gclark85> fine
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> ademoglu, Give us details if you can.
[23:33] <ademoglu> does anybody suggest it what can i do my computer is down ?
[23:34] <Eliyahu> is there video editing programs 4 linux
[23:34] <bekks> !upstart | gclark85
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> gclark85, An snarky attitude cuts out a lot of help.
[23:35] <gclark85> So I have a script that executes fine manually, basically it runs a chef command called knife to remove itself from the chef server, somewhat regardless to the issue I think
[23:35] <AceRimmer> Hook me up with docs for the x server then. The one i'm reading do seem to aply to ubunyi
[23:35] <k1l_> ademoglu: i will start with the obvious: press the power button?
[23:35] <ademoglu> wilee-nilee: some times my pc freezes and mouse or keyboard dont work
[23:35] <minimec> Eliyahu: http://www.techdrivein.com/2013/09/top-5-video-editors-for-ubuntu-linux.html
[23:35] <bekks> AceRimmer: Which graphics hardware do you use?
[23:35] <gclark85> anyways, I have added it to the init.d folder, run update-rc.d default
[23:35] <gclark85> that does nothing
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> ademoglu, What is the chip and ram amount?
[23:36] <ademoglu> k1l_: not like that down like freeze
[23:36] <bekks> gclark85: What do you expect that command to do?
[23:36] <gclark85> however when I add this script to rc.local, it works when the computer starts up
[23:36] <gclark85> I am trying to get it to work when the server shuts down
[23:36] <ademoglu> wilee-nilee: ram is 4 gb, chip means ?
[23:36] <ademoglu> wilee-nilee: intel i5 3220 processor i have ü
[23:36] <gclark85> Effectively the script will delete the actual server using $HOSTNAME from the Hosted Chef server
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> ademoglu, the cpu, have you checked if it is freezing that it is swapping?
[23:37] <k1l_> ademoglu: see in top/htop what is causing the load. if it doesnt react see the logs in /var/log (dmesg/syslog) if there are issues
[23:37] <AceRimmer> The ubuntu forums advice "Xorg _configure" does not work
[23:37] <bekks> AceRimmer: Which graphics hardware do you use?
[23:37] <Eliyahu> minimec thankj you :)
[23:37] <ademoglu> wilee-nilee: actually i cant check it, its just freeze and i dont do nothink
[23:38] <ademoglu> k1l_: which file var/log
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> ademoglu, I would adjust the swappiness and install maybe a conky to see whats going on and install htop as suggested to have an eye on use.
[23:38] <AceRimmer> Its compaq intgrated of some kind
[23:38] <K`zan> Hi folks, trying to install skype on ubu 12.04.3LTS and run into a problem with "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386", the --add-architecture is apparently not an option here and google isn't any help, suggestions appeciated?!?  TMIA.
[23:38] <bekks> AceRimmer: Then find out the "of some kind".
[23:39] <k1l_> ademoglu: syslog
[23:39] <bekks> AceRimmer: If you did, and tell us, we can try to help you.
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> ademoglu, I suspect you are just overdriving the ram.
[23:39] <AceRimmer> I'm just looking for color depth setting
[23:39] <minimec> AceRimmer: Did you stop the xserver, before you did the 'Xorg -configure' command on the console?
[23:39] <gbit> Does anyone can help me creating a group of users that only can send/receive email to local domain only in exim4?
[23:39] <bekks> AceRimmer: And that depends on the graphics hardware used.
[23:40] <ademoglu> k1l_: here http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3624878
[23:40] <AceRimmer> Yes booted from the cl xorg still doesn't genrrate  a conf
[23:40] <bekks> AceRimmer: Then find out which hardware you have.
[23:40] <ademoglu> wilee-nilee: actually i m not sure that but propably i didnt overdriving the ram
[23:40] <AceRimmer> It claims for the cl there is a server running
[23:41] <AceRimmer> *from
[23:41] <ademoglu> wilee-nilee: so some times i check the system 2,5 gb ram using
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> ademoglu, This a wubi install or in a partition?
[23:41] <ademoglu> wilee-nilee: a partition
[23:41] <bekks> AceRimmer: Seems like you are unwilling to accept the proposed solution. Good luck then.
[23:41] <ademoglu> not wubi
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> ademoglu, 2.5 ram may have it starting to swap is all, that will cause a regular HD to run slow, my ssd runs the same when swapping.
[23:42] <AceRimmer> What solution?
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> !swappiness
[23:43] <ademoglu> wilee-nilee: what is the solution ?
[23:43] <bekks> AceRimmer: To find out the graphics hardware you have to enable us to assist you in configuring the driver for that hardware. However, maybe you will find someone else willing to help you.
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> ademoglu, You can change the swappiness
[23:44] <Mitizaro> I fixed my issue... just for support onto YOU::   create a manual that explains - when you enter tty1 mode, you have to LOGIN first and THEN authenticate AGAIN -- because people might assume that since in terminal - you're already in the booted OS account... which is not true - you have to login first but without graphical guide.
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> ademoglu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F
[23:44] <ademoglu> wilee-nilee: how will be it ?
[23:44] <AceRimmer> I could configure myself if i could get xorg working ive done with other distros before
[23:44] <ademoglu> wilee-nilee: how much will be enough ?
[23:45] <bekks> AceRimmer: Good luck then.
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> ademoglu, Basically what your doing is changing how much ram is used before it swaps
[23:45] <kevin> hey guys. so i recently upgraded from precise to saucy and now i've lost gcalctool... i have the package installed ("gcalctool is already the newest version.") but when i type gcalctool in my terminal, "The program 'gcalctool' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gcalctool" ... any ideas?
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> ademoglu, Hard to say the stock is 60 most try 10, read the link if you can.
[23:46] <AceRimmer> All i need to know is why wont xorg generate a conf file or where from the desktop color depth is controlled
[23:47] <K`zan> Hi folks, trying to install skype on ubu 12.04.3LTS and run into a problem with "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386", the --add-architecture is apparently not an option here and google isn't any help, suggestions appeciated?!?  Yes, running 64bit here.TMIA.
[23:47] <bekks> AceRimmer: It can be controlled by the graphical settings application of the driver used. If you dont want to accept that - good luck. I am finally resting your case.
[23:47] <ademoglu> wilee-nilee: cat cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[23:47] <DrGrov> Thanks xangua, bekks, wilee-nilee and wafflejock for the kind help again :) Flash properties through an app in Unity is not all that bad, seems like very straightforward anyhow :)
[23:47] <ademoglu> 60
[23:48] <AceRimmer> So xorg hit this driver and finds no way to configure this chip set? Or atleast color depth?
[23:48] <minimec> AceRimmer: And for us it would be interesting to know, whether you can use 'Xorg -configure' or not, because you might use a GPU with restricted druver support. In that case you would user one of the AMD/Nvidia tools, and NOT xrandr...
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> ademoglu, That link tells you a command to do a session only change, and a permanent change below the command you used to get that number.
[23:49] <maek> Im new to ubuntu and using 12.04. what is the equivalent of the rhel chkconfig to tell a service at which run levels to start? thanks!
[23:49] <bekks> !upstart | maek
[23:49] <wafflejock> DrGrov: np glad you got it sorted
[23:49] <maek> bekks: ty
[23:49] <maek> bekks: and upstart is in full use on 12.04?
[23:50] <bekks> maek: Yeah.
[23:50] <maek> so if I have an /etc/init.d/elasticsearch script thats ok, it just means upstart will use that to start the service?
[23:50] <bekks> maek: You have to configure upstart to do that, yes.
[23:51] <maek> ok thanks!
[23:52] <AceRimmer> Thx anyway guys i'm going to try a different distro
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> holy cow
[23:55] <K`zan> "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386"  not valid, trying to install skype, help?!?
[23:55] <bekks> !skype | K`zan
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> K`zan, That the skype from its website?
[23:56] <ademoglu> K`zan: sudo apt-get install skype didnt work ?
[23:56] <K`zan> I got it from website, but subsequent rooting around indicates there is one in a repos.
[23:56] <K`zan> bekks: ademoglu Will try that, I think I did, but not sure now.
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> K`zan, True, I have seen it is best for some to use the deb from the site, which I would just use gdebi to load
[23:57] <ademoglu> strange
[23:57] <K`zan>  E: Unable to locate package skype
[23:57] <minimec> K`zan: You can enable the partner repository in 'Software & Sources'. Skype will then be available-
[23:57] <Nas_> hey i'm looging for some quick help with deluged permissions
[23:57] <Danato> Hey is it possible to restore the bash shell copying it from another computer?
[23:57] <bekks> K`zan: Did you read the article yet?
[23:57] <minimec> K`zan: Software & updates' ;)
[23:58] <K`zan> bekks: Yes, and it comes to a screeching halt when I try:  sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[23:58] <Danato> Anybody?
[23:58] <bekks> K`zan: I strongly doubt that you can read the article in seconds.
[23:58] <ademoglu> K`zan: may be you changed sources, you shold repair sources
[23:58] <K`zan> bekks: Read through it before, breaks down on the sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 thing.
[23:59] <K`zan> Repair sources?  Lemme google that.
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> Danato, You have been hanging around for a little while you should know better than"Anybody?"
[23:59] <K`zan> bekks, been messing with this for a bit now :-/.
[23:59] <bekks> K`zan: Do you have a 64bit system?
[23:59] <JPM100> Test