[00:15] <lnostdal> is there a known problem with the notification / indicator icons ..? .. mine are showing up wrong in more ways than one ..       perhaps i should get rid of all old settings for my user?
[00:16] <knome> lnostdal, if you're using 13.10, i'd suggest reading the release ntoes.
[00:16] <lnostdal> i heard about the volume indicator or something, but thought that was the only one with problems ..    but i'll check the notes again
[00:17] <knome> well basically, there are problems with many indicators (the panel only supports gtk2 indicators, and we don't have them all ported to gtk3, and some that are aren't working)
[00:17] <lnostdal> ok
[00:20] <lnostdal> i got 2 pidgin icons, 3 battery indicator icons .. 1 wlan icon .. heh ..    i have to click them all - one by one, to see what's what x)
[00:20] <lnostdal> ohwell, thanks
[00:20] <Danato> hey can anybody tell what script is loaded right after loading X? something similar to /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup
[00:21] <Danato> on xfce
[00:22] <knome> lnostdal, check if you have both the indicator area and the messaging area (or whatever they are called)
[03:19] <Keyboard_1310> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sknmuBB7VbX__bhMJ0ehTdsZ839TlCSXTdYPP08KEQg/edit
[03:19] <Keyboard_1310> posted questions there, please let me know if u can help or where else to post
[03:53] <xubuntu106> I had a folder open, and somehow disabled the top 'ribbon' that shows FILE, EDIT, etc.   How do I turn it back on, so that I can see it?
[03:55] <xubuntu106> Anyone?
[07:14] <Peyam> Hi
[07:15] <Peyam> I wanted to install ubuntu 13.10 and I didnt like it, I decided to reinstall xubuntu 13.04 and when I install it after reboot it gives me " reboot and select proper boot device" I never had this problem before. What do I do?
[07:52] <nv_> sounds like it didnt install the boot loader to the correct dive.   boot from live disk and install boot-repair, then run boot-repair.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[08:52] <xubuntu667> Hi and thank you in advance. I am looking for best distro for multi media, like the look of xubuntu would it handle hd video? Would be used on both desktop Laptop
[09:34] <ovrflw0x> what's the value of "Force fonts DPI" in xubuntu?
[11:33] <debasis> Hello friends....Plz help me...i just now installed xubuntu...but i am getting a small screen
[11:33] <debasis> bow to make it big?
[11:41] <debasis> Hello friends....Plz help me...i just now installed xubuntu...but i am getting a small screen
[11:41] <debasis> how to ger complete screen?
[11:42] <bekks> debasis: Then install a graphics drivers for your graphics hardware.
[11:46] <debasis> bekka...but before this...i installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[11:46] <debasis> there i was fine...why here this problem?
[11:47] <debasis> Can u tell me how to set screen resolution here?
[11:48] <debasis> any one here to help me plz?
[11:49] <bekks> debasis: Yiu need to install the graphics driver.
[11:50] <debasis> can u give me the link plz?
[11:50] <debasis> i dont know how to do...plz help me a little
[11:50] <bekks> I dont know which graohics hardware you have.
[11:52] <cenal_> I'm having a lot of difficulty finding documentation on Xubuntu and it's Macbook Pro support.
[11:53] <cenal_> There is a lot of documentation out there for vanilla Ubunut, but it seems to be based around a custom distribution of that release.
[11:53] <cenal_> Does anyone know if Xubuntu supports Apple hardware?
[11:53] <bekks> cenal_: It does, the same as Ubuntu.
[11:54] <cenal_> bekks: I'm not having luck finding an ISO purpose built for Mac like I did with Ubuntu, is there a link you can share?
[11:54] <bekks> cenal_: just install ubuntu, and xubuntu-desktop afterwards.
[11:55] <Sysi-> AFAIK xubuntu should boot from CD on mac
[11:55] <bekks> It does, the same as Ubuntu.
[11:55] <cenal_> bekks: I've been trying to build a USB installer following the instructions from the Ubuntu website because the CD drive is busted on this Macbook Pro 3,1 (2007 Santa Rosa) model Macbook Pro.
[11:56] <cenal_> It gets to the efi loader screen and says it will take a few minutes to boot, but it never does.
[11:56] <cenal_> I'm using a Linux friendly EFI enhancement tool called refind (http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/)
[11:59] <Sysi-> I'd get a usb cd/dvd drive
[12:00] <cenal_> From what I've read only an Apple Superdrive is bootable by the EFI loader on a Macbook Pro
[12:01] <bekks> cenal_: That may apply, yes.
[12:01] <cenal_> It's too old to sink any money into.
[12:02] <Sysi-> apple firmware has bios emulation, but I don't know how does it apply for usb optical drives
[12:03] <debasis> Sorry...i think this xubuntu is not suit for me...i have to change to ubuntu again
[12:03] <cenal_> Have you ever used a USB install for xubuntu on a Macbook Pro before?
[12:04] <bekks> debasis: On Ubuntu, you have to install a graphics drivver as well.
[12:04] <debasis> no bekks...i already told u...i have ubuntu before....and there i was getting the full screen desktop
[12:05] <bekks> debasis: Your keyboard is broken. It repeats the . key 3 to 4 times everytime you press it once.
[12:05] <debasis> i didnt used any hardware extra there...i hard used Linux mint also...there also i didnt face any problem
[12:06] <bekks> debasis: Please stop using "..." instead proper punctuation.
[12:06] <debasis> Sorry.
[12:06] <bazhang> !puregnome | debasis
[12:07] <debasis> whats that?
[12:07] <bazhang> a way to return to ubuntu only
[12:07] <debasis> I need to know how to set the screen resolution here?
[12:08] <debasis> any one know about it?
[12:08] <bazhang> you said you want to go back to ubuntu
[12:08] <bekks> Install the graphics driver required.
[12:08] <bazhang> sure, use xrandr
[12:08] <debasis> im telling like that, bcoz i am not getting a solution here
[12:08] <bazhang> or arandr if you need a GUI
[12:09] <bazhang> debasis, solutions dont happen instantaneously, be patient, people are try ing to help you
[12:09] <debasis> yes, i have patience
[12:10] <bazhang> debasis, so try some of the solutions we mentioned
[12:10] <debasis> But who ever is trying to help me, plz give me the way to set the resolution?
[12:10] <bekks> debasis: We offered at least two solutions already.
[12:10] <bazhang> debasis, several have already been made, try some
[12:10] <cenal_> Not sure if I got disconnected momentarily so this might be a repost to an answered question but here goes: has anyone on here successfully created a USB bootable disk of Xubuntu that works on a Macbook Pro?
[12:11] <debasis> xrandr?
[12:16] <bazhang> debasis, or arandr if you need a gui
[12:17] <debasis> ok.i am trying in xrandr
[12:17] <debasis> actually i dont know what are these
[12:17] <debasis> im searching from internet
[12:19] <bazhang> xrandr is command line, so if thats too difficult install the GUI arandr
[12:39] <irgendwer4711> hi, I try to add some programm to start menu, but it is always addes to the (I think in englisch called) "misc" group.
[12:54] <irgendwer4711> any ideas?
[13:19] <brainwash> irgendwer4711: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html
[13:20] <irgendwer4711> hm my application isnt categorized?
[13:21] <brainwash> you will have to edit the .desktop file directly I assume
[13:21] <brainwash> and add the "Categories=" line
[13:22] <irgendwer4711> in which folder are the files?
[13:23] <brainwash> most likely in ~/.local/share/applications
[13:24] <irgendwer4711> yes
[13:24] <irgendwer4711> that mean, alacarte is missing important parameters
[15:21] <Donnie_Darko21> hello ppl i m in /usr/lib/ and now i see firefox ,firefox addons ,flashplugin instaler and mozilla i want to copy and paste flashplugin so where to paste ?
[15:26] <Donnie_Darko21> anyone ?
[15:26] <elfy> !patience | Donnie_Darko21
[15:27] <Donnie_Darko21> yeah ok :) sorry
[15:28] <Donnie_Darko21> just want to complete this beautiful os  flash,java
[15:46] <isosceles> Is Xubuntu substantially faster than Ubuntu? The Xubuntu page doesn't make much of a sales pitch this OS.
[15:47] <elfy> it can be - it is for me :)
[15:47] <isosceles> That's good to hear. Does it bootup faster?
[15:48] <elfy> not especially so - but I'm generally in the kitchen waiting for the kettle then ;)
[15:49] <isosceles> Anybody else think this OS is or is not faster than Ubuntu?
[15:50] <isosceles> Also I'm interested to know if it can be run as live everytime, like puppy. Puppy is just too limited for me.
[15:50] <Donnie_Darko21> xubuntu it is faster ram speed etc and is for low pc the new ubuntu  need at least 2 gb ram
[15:50] <elfy> you can run it live - persistence you want
[15:51] <isosceles> i have 8 gb ram so not problem there. i just notice that applications opened from puppy open very immediately. from ubunutu, not so much.
[15:52] <elfy> I'd suspect you'd see them open much quicker in xubuntu
[15:52] <Donnie_Darko21> lol u got 8gb ram i got 2gb ram and i used ubuntu 12.04 for a long time was fast but not so fast :)
[15:53] <isosceles> i might be a little impatient and obsessed with speed
[15:54] <Donnie_Darko21> damn i hate this flash ... when i try to ./install_plugin i got some error Installing from local file cp: cannot stat ‘’: No such file or directory
[15:55] <Donnie_Darko21> what the fuc is wrong with flash how do you install flash omg
[16:02] <Donnie_Darko21> omg
[16:02] <brainwash> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[16:02] <Donnie_Darko21> you have version 11,2,202,327 installed
[16:03] <Donnie_Darko21> and why is  telling be that my adoble flash is vulnerable ?
[16:03] <brainwash> who's telling you that?
[16:03] <Donnie_Darko21> addons
[16:04] <Donnie_Darko21> Linux 	Mozilla, Firefox, SeaMonkey (Flash Player 11.2 is the last supported Flash Player version for Linux. Adobe will continue to provide security updates.) 	11.2.202.327
[16:04] <Donnie_Darko21> i got 327 now
[16:04] <Donnie_Darko21> but why is still red
[16:04] <Donnie_Darko21> i want to be green :)
[16:04] <Donnie_Darko21> whats wrong ?
[16:04] <brainwash> ask the mozilla guys
[16:05] <brainwash> or install chrome and enjoy the latest flash player evrsion
[16:05] <Donnie_Darko21> cant understand
[16:06] <Donnie_Darko21> but its says 327 is the latest version
[16:06] <brainwash> you should ask the developers of firefox about this issue
[16:06] <Donnie_Darko21> i got installed latest version
[16:06] <Donnie_Darko21> i installed in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[16:07] <Donnie_Darko21> and got 2 files now the libflashplayer.so
[16:07] <Donnie_Darko21> and the flashplugin-alternative
[16:07] <brainwash> yes right, but we don't know why firefox flags this version as being vulnerable
[16:08] <Donnie_Darko21> did adobe have irc ?
[16:08] <brainwash> adobe does not care, you will have to ask the mozilla devs
[16:08] <brainwash> they provide the update check
[16:09] <Donnie_Darko21> oh they are on freenode >
[16:09] <Donnie_Darko21> ?
[16:09] <brainwash> https://wiki.mozilla.org/IRC
[16:10] <Donnie_Darko21> thanks
[16:10] <brainwash> just checked, #firefox does exist on this server
[16:10] <brainwash> so try to ask there first
[16:29] <Donnie_Darko21> lol some guy who use windows telling me to install from apt
[16:37] <brainwash> Donnie_Darko21: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2176235
[16:39] <Donnie_Darko21> :)
[16:39] <Donnie_Darko21> i will paste to firefox bc they making me to go to ubuntu
[16:57] <Donnie_Darko21> take care ppl adobe its not important to linux or firefox
[16:57] <Donnie_Darko21> lol
[17:47] <brauleinchen> how do I import vlc sources into xubunt 13.10?
[17:48] <brauleinchen> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/master-daily/ubuntu/dists/main/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[17:48] <brauleinchen> its what i get
[17:49] <nlsthzn> you trying to get those for saucy brauleinchen
[17:50] <nlsthzn> ?
[17:50] <brauleinchen> yes
[17:51] <nlsthzn> is the latest available for saucy...
[17:51] <nlsthzn> ?
[17:51] <nlsthzn> perhaps change sources to a few releases earlier
[17:51] <nlsthzn> or use the one packaged for 13.10
[17:51] <nlsthzn> from the main repo?
[17:51] <brauleinchen> after the upgrade, I just changed the nickname of the 13.04 release for saucy
[17:52] <nlsthzn> perhaps it isn't updated yet
[17:52] <nlsthzn> that is how it seems
[17:54] <bazhang> thats a ppa
[17:54] <bazhang> so check the ppa page in question
[17:55] <bazhang> changing the release name wont do much good
[17:56] <meomic> hi, could someone tell me why xfce-power-manager is ignoring my options - i mean i have selected that when i close the lid it should just turn off display - but it making my notebook sleep instead - same with sleep/hibernate/power buttons - i have other actions than it is doing
[17:56] <meomic> i have ubuntu 13.10 x86-64 with xfce desktop - so i guess it is right to ask here (xubuntu)
[17:57] <meomic> also it was working fine for the last 2? or 3 years - it went down when i upgraded to 13.10
[17:59] <brauleinchen> https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/vlc , deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/n-muench/vlc/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main  , my varsion, ist it 13.10? saucy? saucy.salamander?
[18:01] <meomic> brauleinchen: what you want to do? you want to get latest vlc?
[18:02] <brauleinchen> meomic, yes
[18:04] <meomic> brauleinchen: do you want daily builds or stable releases? (asking because 2 ppa's are available)
[18:05] <brauleinchen> meomic, daily+
[18:06] <meomic> brauleinchen: paste it into your terminal: sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:videolan/master-daily
[18:07] <brauleinchen> meomic, what about https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/vlc ?
[18:08] <meomic> brauleinchen: that is not official ppa - you should not use when official ones are available
[18:09] <meomic> brauleinchen: after pasting that line just do sudo apt-get update   (it will reload your repos)  and later can do sudo apt-get upgrade (will install updates if available) - same can be done via synapti (reload button)
[18:09] <meomic> synaptic*
[18:10] <brauleinchen> meomic, im on it
[18:17] <brauleinchen> oops.
[18:17] <brauleinchen> update-openoffice-dicts not present or executable. Missing dependency on dictionaries-common?
[18:17] <brauleinchen> dpkg: error processing myspell-st (--configure):
[18:17] <brauleinchen>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[18:17] <brauleinchen> Errors were encountered while processing:
[18:17] <brauleinchen>  myspell-st
[18:17] <brauleinchen> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:17] <brauleinchen> i dont get it, i dont use openoffice, but libreoffice
[18:21] <meomic> brauleinchen: it is saying that there are problems with  myspell-st      package - that package tries to do something with openoffice - but you dont have that package? if you dont use that package maybe uninstall it?
[18:26] <meomic> brauleinchen: checkout this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dict-st/+bug/980130     - theres some 'workarounds'
[19:38] <brauleinchen> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 95FABEFB4499973B
[19:38] <brauleinchen> what do I have to do?
[19:42] <elfy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046158&p=6589956&viewfull=1#post6589956
[19:42] <elfy> try that - replace the numbers in the post with those you have
[19:48] <octetcloud> when I disconnect my external monitor, the control panel on the top doesn't get resized, just truncated, so I lose the open windows, and the left-side "foot" menu.
[19:48] <octetcloud> this is xubuntu 13.10
[19:49] <octetcloud> is there any way to get better detection and adaption to an external monitor plugin? btw, my desktop spans the monitor and laptop, NOT mirrored
[19:53] <brauleinchen> no luck
[20:09] <Donnie_Darko21> can anyone tell me instruction to install latest java
[20:11] <baizon> Donnie_Darko21: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[20:11] <Donnie_Darko21> and from default fresh install is it firewall installed ?
[20:11] <Donnie_Darko21> r enabled
[20:17] <Donnie_Darko21> where was the bash profile path
[20:18] <Donnie_Darko21> need to add xbacklight -set 100 to default
[20:31] <Donnie_Darko21> take care ppl and love the xubuntu :D
[21:47] <xubuntu561> My menu bar (FILE EDIT VIEW GO HELP) is gone. How do I recover it?
[21:48] <xubuntu561> It's only gone with some files, not all!
[21:49] <TheSheep> xubuntu561: in what application?
[21:49] <TheSheep> xubuntu561: and what did you do just before it disappeared?
[21:50] <xubuntu561> It's when I open up certain folders (eg. PICTURES), and somehow the menu bar is hidden.
[21:50] <TheSheep> press ctrl+m
[21:50] <xubuntu561> I don't have the option of SELECT ALL that I used to have.
[21:51] <xubuntu561> ctrl+m did it!   Sweet!   Thank you <TheSheep>
[21:51] <xubuntu561> Where can I find short cuts like that?
[21:53] <TheSheep> in help
[21:55] <TheSheep> it's also displayed in the menu
[21:56] <xubuntu561> Thx!