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apacheloggerwhere the hell does stripes wallpaper on saucy come from again00:47
apacheloggerfor 3 releases I had to remove that crap thing00:47
apacheloggerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6435196/00:50
apacheloggerit's a fing joke that's what this is00:50
* apachelogger ponders when to attend the BSP01:13
apacheloggerI am too stupid to use bzr for development01:43
soeegood morning07:46
lordievaderGood morning.07:53
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kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1252243] QLocale day of the week not translated on qt application @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1252243 (by Giulian Gonçalves Vivan)12:17
jussihrm, which was the kde connect version that was fixed/updated to workwith what is in the android store? 12:30
Peace-someone can help me with tooltip.ccp ? this fucking ffplay die before it play something on video instead on audio it works :( 12:32
Peace-i am trying to patch dolphin to play audio when the mouse is hovering an audio file 12:32
Peace-or video 12:32
Peace-here the tooltip.cpp http://paste.kde.org/p39ac182612:33
tsdgeosshadeslayer_: are you guys responsible for the cmake packaging?12:44
apacheloggertsdgeos: kind of12:46
apacheloggeras in: no one else is ;)12:46
tsdgeoscan i ask for cmake 2.8.12.1 in trusty?12:46
tsdgeosthe current 2.8.12 has a nasty regression in moc definition handling12:47
tsdgeoswhich by the looks of the git log got fixed in 2.8.12.112:47
tsdgeos    Merge branch 'fix-automoc-compile-definitions' into release12:47
tsdgeos:D12:47
apacheloggersure12:48
apacheloggerkubotu: newpackage cmake 2.8.12.112:49
apacheloggerkubotu: newversion cmake 2.8.12.112:49
kubotuPackage cmake already exists!12:49
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125225912:49
apacheloggerkubotu: is lunchpad being slow or is it you :P12:50
tsdgeoshmmm12:52
tsdgeosand why isn't it here?12:53
tsdgeosstuck in rpoposed?12:53
tsdgeoslunch!12:53
tsdgeosah12:53
apacheloggertsdgeos: not uploaded yet, need to do patch review12:53
tsdgeossure, no worries, tx12:53
apacheloggertsdgeos: uploaded to proposed13:12
apacheloggeryofel: neon has no plasma-nm?13:32
yofelpossibly13:32
apacheloggerbzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/plasma-nm-ubuntu/".13:33
apacheloggerat least13:33
apacheloggerit has libnm-qt though ^^13:33
yofelthose were used by the nm 1.0 branch before it was renamed13:33
yofellibnm and libmm13:33
yofelalthough libmm doesn't build because mm is too old IIRC13:34
apacheloggerhm13:34
apacheloggeroh well13:34
apacheloggerlooking into neon5 nms13:34
apacheloggerbzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/plasma-nm/".13:34
apachelogger:@13:34
yofelhm, debian experimental has mm 0.7.991. IIRC libmm wants 0.813:35
starbuck11Riddell: http://wire.kubuntu.org/ online13:55
tsdgeosapachelogger: awesome, tx13:57
apacheloggertsdgeos: np13:58
apacheloggeryofel: btw, I think we'll need another script .... qtwebkit takes like 3 hours to build, I really do not want that daily13:58
yofelapachelogger: daily? That last built on 2013-07-31 as it never changes13:59
yofelso I don't think leaving it enabled is a big deal14:00
apacheloggeryofel: built on request14:00
apacheloggerit changes all the time, we just didn't request a build xD14:00
apacheloggerwhich is bad14:00
yofelah14:00
apacheloggermaybe we should move it to qt5 after all14:00
apacheloggerbut in the meantime I'll probably enhance autobuild in the syncer repo to support more sporadic builds of !daily recipes14:01
apacheloggersuch that we can have qtwebkit build once a week, the day after qt514:01
yofelhm, from the git log it doesn't seem to change that often14:01
yofelmaybe twice a week on average14:01
yofelhm, ok, hard to say, the commit history is a mess14:02
apacheloggerit's not, the weird bzr import stuff is :P14:02
* yofel checked qt5 git14:03
apacheloggerat any rate... 2 times a week is still too often14:03
apacheloggeryofel: also note that we are now on stable which supposedly sees less change14:03
yofelif you say so..14:03
BluesKajHowdy folks14:03
apacheloggeryofel: point being... if we build it daily while qt5 is weekly we could run into silly bugs14:03
apacheloggerso the closer we align the two the better14:03
yofelwell, true14:04
apacheloggeryofel: also sebas suggested we (bluesystems) should build a live ISO with neon5 ... so that will also appear at some point in the next couple of weeks \o/14:06
yofelwe still have that kvm image generation setup for neon4 running, might make sense to do that for neon514:08
yofelvmbuilder is a mess though with it being umaintained14:08
apacheloggermh14:08
apacheloggerwill have to wait for shadeslayer_'s input anyway14:08
apacheloggerhe messed with that sort of business some time ago, so I am sure he has an opinion14:09
apacheloggeryofel: generally speaking creating images for kvm is not that hard though14:09
apacheloggereven without vmbuilder xD14:10
yofelsure, except that it's not automatic then :P14:10
soeehi, hows the work with 4.12 betas going ? :)14:11
apacheloggereh14:12
apacheloggerhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/156843411/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.project-neon5-qtwebkit_0.0.git20131118.r234~92e8d60.neon7~ubuntu14.04.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:12
apacheloggerI cannot tell you how much I hate qtwebkit14:12
apacheloggeryofel: can be automized :P14:12
yofelhow?14:12
apacheloggerscripting? :P14:12
tsdgeosapachelogger: awesome, problem gone _-)14:13
apachelogger\o/14:14
yofelapachelogger: I would prefer not to re-invent vmbuilder ;P14:14
apacheloggerwell, if vmbuilder is not maintained we might as well :P14:14
apacheloggerit's like 100 sloc of bash I reckon14:15
apacheloggeryofel: http://git.exherbo.org/exherbo.git/tree/scripts/create-kvm-image 300 with argument handling :P14:16
yofeloh, that's cool ^^14:16
apacheloggerRiddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32754314:51
ubottuKDE bug 327543 in general "No longer can restart, reboot or log off via applications kickoff launcher" [Major,Unconfirmed]14:52
apacheloggerALERT ALERT ALERT14:52
shadeslayer_o_o14:57
parad1seRiddell: How its going with the staging of kde-runtime? Do I have to do something or can do?17:02
Riddellparad1se: pardon?17:11
shadeslayerRiddell: still in Barcelona?17:12
shadeslayerRiddell: or did you leave? :)17:12
parad1seRiddell: I mean Bug #107145317:12
ubottubug 1071453 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu Precise) "Dolphin doesn't store samba share password" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107145317:12
Riddellshadeslayer: I've abandoned you for sunny scotland17:12
shadeslayerthat sounds like an oxymoron17:13
shadeslayerit started raining here :(17:13
Riddellparad1se: looks like everything is good, it needs a week for testing before it's allowed to go in17:13
Riddellparad1se: that will be tomorrow so you can politely poke a ~ubuntu-sru member to move it to updates tomorrow17:14
ovidiu-florinhow can I propose a package to be in the default future Kubuntu versions?17:15
parad1seRiddell: OK. Thanks for the information and thanks for the help!17:15
shadeslayerovidiu-florin: just send a suggestion on kubuntu-devel17:19
ovidiu-florinon the mail list? or will the IRC be enough?17:19
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: ^17:20
shadeslayerML please17:20
ovidiu-florinok17:24
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: sorry for the MIA in this weekend17:24
ovidiu-florinwould you have time to continue now?17:24
shadeslayerovidiu-florin: sure17:28
ovidiu-florinok, great17:29
ovidiu-florinlet me set up this computer with pbuilder17:29
ovidiu-florinthe ~/.pbuilderrc template you gave me is no longer in the KDE pastebin17:30
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: can you please give me another one?17:32
shadeslayersure17:32
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/p8f76d58917:32
shadeslayerdo you still have that other paste from paste.ubuntu.com?17:33
ovidiu-florinyes17:33
ovidiu-florinI'm on the work computer, so I'll do all this in a virtual machine, is that ok?17:34
geniiPlease add to Muon wishlist: handling for apt://packagename links from https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/17:34
shadeslayerokay17:40
shadeslayergenii: file a bug on KDE Bugzilla for that17:40
shadeslayerand send me a link17:40
shadeslayerI might be able to look at it next month17:40
geniishadeslayer: Will do17:46
geniishadeslayer: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32777818:09
ubottuKDE bug 327778 in muon "Any application selected at the Ubuntu Apps URL cannot be installed" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]18:09
shadeslayerthx18:09
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: sorry for the delay, this computer is super slow18:10
shadeslayerokay :)18:11
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: question, meanwhile: you've said: ## Visit https://launchpad.net/~LP_USER_NAME/+archivesubscriptions and find the correct line to put in /etc/apt/sources.list18:11
shadeslayeryes18:11
ovidiu-florinthat means the kubuntu ninja links, right?18:11
shadeslayerovidiu-florin: yes18:19
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: I've tried that, and it gave me an error, that it cannot access the server18:19
ovidiu-florinI'll try again on the VM18:20
shadeslayerovidiu-florin: make sure you have ca-certificates installed18:20
shadeslayerinside pbuilder18:20
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: I can't find anything about certificates in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto18:21
shadeslayerovidiu-florin: yeah, it's a new deop18:21
shadeslayer*dep18:21
shadeslayerit was installed earlier I think18:21
shadeslayerbut now you need to install it by hand18:21
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: what's the command to branch kubuntu-automation?18:27
ovidiu-florinfound it18:27
shadeslayer:)18:27
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shadeslayerRiddell: btw did you find your power cable?18:55
shadeslayerhow much would anyone mind if I committed unsorted install files?20:10
ScottKshadeslayer: That makes it a real PITA later to tell if the files have changed.20:15
shadeslayerhow so?20:15
shadeslayerScottK: ^ I sorted them anyway, but why would this be an issue?20:20
* Sick_Rimmit Appears from the mist20:56
lordievaderSick_Rimmit: o/20:56
Sick_RimmitSo I've been way busy over the summer with Family stuff, but am ready to put some more time back into Kubuntu.20:57
Sick_RimmitTesting, and Docs seems like a good place to start.20:57
Sick_RimmitCertainly happy to help with the Docs and Wiki stuff.20:58
lordievader:)20:58
Quintasanyay20:58
Quintasanmore doc people20:58
sgclarkI am also here for docs20:58
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: are you around?20:58
Sick_RimmitAlso when I saw Scarlett was looking to get involved too, it's seemed like a good time to buddy up with someone else who was trying to find their way in too20:58
Sick_RimmitKettle's calling beb20:59
Sick_Rimmitbrb20:59
ScottKshadeslayer: When you look at a .install file and try to find if a file is listed in it already, it's much easier if they are in order.20:59
ScottKAlso makes for better diffs later.20:59
shadeslayerack21:01
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: the chroot does not keep installed packages21:02
ovidiu-florinI logged back in today and emacs is no longer installed21:02
ovidiu-florin:(21:02
shadeslayerovidiu-florin: you need --save-after-login21:04
shadeslayerwhen logging in21:04
shadeslayerthat will save any changes you make21:04
ovidiu-florinI used it21:04
shadeslayeroh ...21:04
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: it logs me in as root but $HOME is set as my user21:05
Quintasanit sometimes bugs up21:05
Quintasanmake sure you're doing --login --save-after-login21:05
Quintasantry it again21:05
* Sick_Rimmit Returns with Hot Chocolate21:07
ovidiu-florinhmmmmm... chocolate21:08
ovidiu-florinthis is what I use: sudo -E DIST=trusty ARCH=amd64 pbuilder --login --save-after-login21:08
ovidiu-florinit printed this: W: no hooks of type F found -- ignoring21:10
ovidiu-florinwhat does it mean?21:10
shadeslayerwarning that it couldn't find a hook of type F ?21:11
ovidiu-florinwhat is type F?21:11
shadeslayerA is pre pbuilder , B is right after it's unpacked etc etc21:14
shadeslayerF is probably before it's detroyed21:14
yofelovidiu-florin: you can irgnore that, if you're curious, the different types of hooks are documented in the pbuilder manpage under --hookdir21:20
yofel*ignore21:20
ovidiu-florinI'm unfamilliar with this:21:21
ovidiu-florin# apt-get update21:21
ovidiu-florinE: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found.21:21
yofeldisable the https ppa url, install apt-transport-https and ca-certificates, enable it again21:21
ovidiu-florinW: GPG error: https://private-ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B2XXXXXXX21:27
yofelsudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 0945A8E221:28
ovidiu-florinyaaay, no errors :)21:30
Sick_Rimmitlordievader: Thank you for your post to the list about the Wiki's I'm up to speed now.21:31
lordievaderSick_Rimmit: No problem, that was the goal ;)21:33
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: http://pastebin.kde.org/ppkjlxm80/fs0azb21:35
shadeslayer-> dinner21:36
shadeslayerttyl21:36
yofelovidiu-florin: you need to install pkg-kde-tools. If you always want to be on the safe side make sure you don't have any unmet build-deps like in line 221:37
yofelthough in this case, pkg-kde-tools will suffice21:37
ovidiu-florinyofel: this is on my host right?21:37
yofelright21:37
ovidiu-florinI've installed the dependencies, but I'm not sure what's hapening now21:46
ovidiu-florinit seems like it's installing lots of things21:47
ovidiu-florinbut I'm not sure where it installes them21:47
yofelright, what pbuilder does is take the base chroot that it created before, installs all build-deps in there, then tries to build the package21:48
yofelit does that in /var/cache/pbuilder/build/$PBUILDER_PID/ by default21:48
ovidiu-florinahaaam21:49
ovidiu-florinand does it publish the result somwhere?21:49
ovidiu-florinsomewhere*21:49
yofelit should be in /var/cache/pbuilder/$DIST-$ARCH/result/21:50
ovidiu-florinyofel: so this won't affect http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.80_trusty.html ?21:57
yofelwhat you do locally doesn't affect it at all. That page is generated from the PPA build logs21:58
shadeslayerwohoo22:02
shadeslayerkdepim done finally22:02
ovidiu-florinthen how can I make my work be usefull?22:02
yofelovidiu-florin: give us access to a package with your modifications, or better: push a bzr branch with your changes that we can merge22:03
yofelas we generate the packages from bzr anyway22:03
shadeslayeryofel: I think he has access to ninjas22:03
ovidiu-florinI do22:03
shadeslayerso he can upload to ninjas22:03
shadeslayerand push a branch22:03
ovidiu-florinbut I'm not sure how to do all this22:04
ovidiu-florinI'm still learning22:04
yofeloh I see, he's a team member, that makes things easier :)22:04
yofelovidiu-florin: ok, how we update the ppa packages is roughly like this:22:05
shadeslayerkdepim uploaded \o/22:05
shadeslayerI can go to sleep now :P22:06
yofelget the branch: kbzr branch konsole22:06
yofelcd konsole22:06
yofeledit what's needed and edit changelog22:06
yofelcommit22:06
yofelrun bzr-buildpackage-ppa -s 2 (or higher)22:06
yofelwhere bzr-buildpacakge-ppa is from kubuntu-automation22:06
yofelthen you have a source.changes that you can then dput to ppa:kubuntu-ninjas/ppa22:06
* apachelogger stumbles in22:07
yofelnow you would push your changes to the branch, but as you need to be a kubuntu-member to do that, please push to a new branch owned by you and give us the url so we can merge22:08
apacheloggerkubotu: order tea, earl grey, hot22:08
* kubotu is replicating a hot cup of earl grey for captain apachelogger.22:08
apacheloggeryofel: so it appears there's bug squishing scheduled for friday evening?22:09
apachelogger<- still wondering when to go to munich22:09
yofelI'm not sure. Theoretically the bugsquashing session lasts the whole weekend, but it's not like we'll do that all the time. Maybe come on saturday? 22:10
apacheloggerwell, if we schedule drinks for friday evening I could also come friday :P22:11
shadeslayeror you could come for the entirety of it xD22:11
yofel+122:12
apacheloggermadness22:12
ovidiu-florinI'm looking forward to meeting you guys22:12
apacheloggerdo I need to bring a computing device?22:14
shadeslayeryes, and your computer and a sonic screwdriver don't count22:15
shadeslayerer, s/computer/phone/22:15
apacheloggermeh22:15
debfxan abacus should be enough22:16
apacheloggergoody22:16
apacheloggerthen I can do what I always do, muse on the meaning of life and why we can't have nice things22:16
apacheloggerspoiler alert: the answer is 4222:16
debfxare you going to show us how to calculate that answer on your abacus? :)22:19
apacheloggerI can do that, though I am not sure everyone is familiar with how to use an abacus, so the intro may take up too much time :P22:21
ovidiu-florinI'm off to bed nighty night22:28
apacheloggergood night22:29
Sick_RimmitSo I just joined Trello, but I can't seem to see how I join the Kubuntu board22:37
sgclarksame ^^22:38
yofelwhat's your names on trello?22:38
sgclarkscarlettclark122:38
Sick_RimmitOh its ricktimmis22:38
yofeladded22:39
sgclarkthank you22:39
Sick_RimmitThat's brilliant thank you22:39
yofeland added you to the docs board22:41
Sick_RimmitSaw that come in as I was looking at what needs doing there. Thanks again22:44
Sick_RimmitOK I'm getting somewhere now.22:51
Sick_RimmitI've got me logins sorted on the wiki, and Trello. Will continue further tomorrow, thanks to sgclark lordievader and yofel for assisting.22:52
Sick_RimmitI'm going to wrap it up for this evening. ttfn22:52
sgclarkhave a good night!22:52
Sick_Rimmitsgclark: catch you tomorrow perhaps, good night.22:58
Riddellshadeslayer: yeah I found my power cable in amongst my stuff thanks23:29

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