[00:47] <apachelogger> where the hell does stripes wallpaper on saucy come from again
[00:47] <apachelogger> for 3 releases I had to remove that crap thing
[00:50] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6435196/
[00:50] <apachelogger> it's a fing joke that's what this is
[01:13]  * apachelogger ponders when to attend the BSP
[01:43] <apachelogger> I am too stupid to use bzr for development
[07:46] <soee> good morning
[07:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:17] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1252243] QLocale day of the week not translated on qt application @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1252243 (by Giulian Gonçalves Vivan)
[12:30] <jussi> hrm, which was the kde connect version that was fixed/updated to workwith what is in the android store? 
[12:32] <Peace-> someone can help me with tooltip.ccp ? this fucking ffplay die before it play something on video instead on audio it works :( 
[12:32] <Peace-> i am trying to patch dolphin to play audio when the mouse is hovering an audio file 
[12:32] <Peace-> or video 
[12:33] <Peace-> here the tooltip.cpp http://paste.kde.org/p39ac1826
[12:44] <tsdgeos> shadeslayer_: are you guys responsible for the cmake packaging?
[12:46] <apachelogger> tsdgeos: kind of
[12:46] <apachelogger> as in: no one else is ;)
[12:46] <tsdgeos> can i ask for cmake 2.8.12.1 in trusty?
[12:47] <tsdgeos> the current 2.8.12 has a nasty regression in moc definition handling
[12:47] <tsdgeos> which by the looks of the git log got fixed in 2.8.12.1
[12:47] <tsdgeos>     Merge branch 'fix-automoc-compile-definitions' into release
[12:47] <tsdgeos> :D
[12:48] <apachelogger> sure
[12:49] <apachelogger> kubotu: newpackage cmake 2.8.12.1
[12:49] <apachelogger> kubotu: newversion cmake 2.8.12.1
[12:49] <kubotu> Package cmake already exists!
[12:49] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1252259
[12:50] <apachelogger> kubotu: is lunchpad being slow or is it you :P
[12:52] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[12:53] <tsdgeos> and why isn't it here?
[12:53] <tsdgeos> stuck in rpoposed?
[12:53] <tsdgeos> lunch!
[12:53] <tsdgeos> ah
[12:53] <apachelogger> tsdgeos: not uploaded yet, need to do patch review
[12:53] <tsdgeos> sure, no worries, tx
[13:12] <apachelogger> tsdgeos: uploaded to proposed
[13:32] <apachelogger> yofel: neon has no plasma-nm?
[13:32] <yofel> possibly
[13:33] <apachelogger> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/plasma-nm-ubuntu/".
[13:33] <apachelogger> at least
[13:33] <apachelogger> it has libnm-qt though ^^
[13:33] <yofel> those were used by the nm 1.0 branch before it was renamed
[13:33] <yofel> libnm and libmm
[13:34] <yofel> although libmm doesn't build because mm is too old IIRC
[13:34] <apachelogger> hm
[13:34] <apachelogger> oh well
[13:34] <apachelogger> looking into neon5 nms
[13:34] <apachelogger> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/plasma-nm/".
[13:34] <apachelogger> :@
[13:35] <yofel> hm, debian experimental has mm 0.7.991. IIRC libmm wants 0.8
[13:55] <starbuck11> Riddell: http://wire.kubuntu.org/ online
[13:57] <tsdgeos> apachelogger: awesome, tx
[13:58] <apachelogger> tsdgeos: np
[13:58] <apachelogger> yofel: btw, I think we'll need another script .... qtwebkit takes like 3 hours to build, I really do not want that daily
[13:59] <yofel> apachelogger: daily? That last built on 2013-07-31 as it never changes
[14:00] <yofel> so I don't think leaving it enabled is a big deal
[14:00] <apachelogger> yofel: built on request
[14:00] <apachelogger> it changes all the time, we just didn't request a build xD
[14:00] <apachelogger> which is bad
[14:00] <yofel> ah
[14:00] <apachelogger> maybe we should move it to qt5 after all
[14:01] <apachelogger> but in the meantime I'll probably enhance autobuild in the syncer repo to support more sporadic builds of !daily recipes
[14:01] <apachelogger> such that we can have qtwebkit build once a week, the day after qt5
[14:01] <yofel> hm, from the git log it doesn't seem to change that often
[14:01] <yofel> maybe twice a week on average
[14:02] <yofel> hm, ok, hard to say, the commit history is a mess
[14:02] <apachelogger> it's not, the weird bzr import stuff is :P
[14:03]  * yofel checked qt5 git
[14:03] <apachelogger> at any rate... 2 times a week is still too often
[14:03] <apachelogger> yofel: also note that we are now on stable which supposedly sees less change
[14:03] <yofel> if you say so..
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:03] <apachelogger> yofel: point being... if we build it daily while qt5 is weekly we could run into silly bugs
[14:03] <apachelogger> so the closer we align the two the better
[14:04] <yofel> well, true
[14:06] <apachelogger> yofel: also sebas suggested we (bluesystems) should build a live ISO with neon5 ... so that will also appear at some point in the next couple of weeks \o/
[14:08] <yofel> we still have that kvm image generation setup for neon4 running, might make sense to do that for neon5
[14:08] <yofel> vmbuilder is a mess though with it being umaintained
[14:08] <apachelogger> mh
[14:08] <apachelogger> will have to wait for shadeslayer_'s input anyway
[14:09] <apachelogger> he messed with that sort of business some time ago, so I am sure he has an opinion
[14:09] <apachelogger> yofel: generally speaking creating images for kvm is not that hard though
[14:10] <apachelogger> even without vmbuilder xD
[14:10] <yofel> sure, except that it's not automatic then :P
[14:11] <soee> hi, hows the work with 4.12 betas going ? :)
[14:12] <apachelogger> eh
[14:12] <apachelogger> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/156843411/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.project-neon5-qtwebkit_0.0.git20131118.r234~92e8d60.neon7~ubuntu14.04.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[14:12] <apachelogger> I cannot tell you how much I hate qtwebkit
[14:12] <apachelogger> yofel: can be automized :P
[14:12] <yofel> how?
[14:12] <apachelogger> scripting? :P
[14:13] <tsdgeos> apachelogger: awesome, problem gone _-)
[14:14] <apachelogger> \o/
[14:14] <yofel> apachelogger: I would prefer not to re-invent vmbuilder ;P
[14:14] <apachelogger> well, if vmbuilder is not maintained we might as well :P
[14:15] <apachelogger> it's like 100 sloc of bash I reckon
[14:16] <apachelogger> yofel: http://git.exherbo.org/exherbo.git/tree/scripts/create-kvm-image 300 with argument handling :P
[14:16] <yofel> oh, that's cool ^^
[14:51] <apachelogger> Riddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327543
[14:52] <apachelogger> ALERT ALERT ALERT
[14:57] <shadeslayer_> o_o
[17:02] <parad1se> Riddell: How its going with the staging of kde-runtime? Do I have to do something or can do?
[17:11] <Riddell> parad1se: pardon?
[17:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: still in Barcelona?
[17:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: or did you leave? :)
[17:12] <parad1se> Riddell: I mean Bug #1071453
[17:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I've abandoned you for sunny scotland
[17:13] <shadeslayer> that sounds like an oxymoron
[17:13] <shadeslayer> it started raining here :(
[17:13] <Riddell> parad1se: looks like everything is good, it needs a week for testing before it's allowed to go in
[17:14] <Riddell> parad1se: that will be tomorrow so you can politely poke a ~ubuntu-sru member to move it to updates tomorrow
[17:15] <ovidiu-florin> how can I propose a package to be in the default future Kubuntu versions?
[17:15] <parad1se> Riddell: OK. Thanks for the information and thanks for the help!
[17:19] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: just send a suggestion on kubuntu-devel
[17:19] <ovidiu-florin> on the mail list? or will the IRC be enough?
[17:20] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: ^
[17:20] <shadeslayer> ML please
[17:24] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[17:24] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: sorry for the MIA in this weekend
[17:24] <ovidiu-florin> would you have time to continue now?
[17:28] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: sure
[17:29] <ovidiu-florin> ok, great
[17:29] <ovidiu-florin> let me set up this computer with pbuilder
[17:30] <ovidiu-florin> the ~/.pbuilderrc template you gave me is no longer in the KDE pastebin
[17:32] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: can you please give me another one?
[17:32] <shadeslayer> sure
[17:32] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/p8f76d589
[17:33] <shadeslayer> do you still have that other paste from paste.ubuntu.com?
[17:33] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[17:34] <ovidiu-florin> I'm on the work computer, so I'll do all this in a virtual machine, is that ok?
[17:34] <genii> Please add to Muon wishlist: handling for apt://packagename links from https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
[17:40] <shadeslayer> okay
[17:40] <shadeslayer> genii: file a bug on KDE Bugzilla for that
[17:40] <shadeslayer> and send me a link
[17:40] <shadeslayer> I might be able to look at it next month
[17:46] <genii> shadeslayer: Will do
[18:09] <genii> shadeslayer: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327778
[18:09] <shadeslayer> thx
[18:10] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: sorry for the delay, this computer is super slow
[18:11] <shadeslayer> okay :)
[18:11] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: question, meanwhile: you've said: ## Visit https://launchpad.net/~LP_USER_NAME/+archivesubscriptions and find the correct line to put in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:11] <shadeslayer> yes
[18:11] <ovidiu-florin> that means the kubuntu ninja links, right?
[18:19] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: yes
[18:19] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: I've tried that, and it gave me an error, that it cannot access the server
[18:20] <ovidiu-florin> I'll try again on the VM
[18:20] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: make sure you have ca-certificates installed
[18:20] <shadeslayer> inside pbuilder
[18:21] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: I can't find anything about certificates in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[18:21] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: yeah, it's a new deop
[18:21] <shadeslayer> *dep
[18:21] <shadeslayer> it was installed earlier I think
[18:21] <shadeslayer> but now you need to install it by hand
[18:27] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: what's the command to branch kubuntu-automation?
[18:27] <ovidiu-florin> found it
[18:27] <shadeslayer> :)
[18:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw did you find your power cable?
[20:10] <shadeslayer> how much would anyone mind if I committed unsorted install files?
[20:15] <ScottK> shadeslayer: That makes it a real PITA later to tell if the files have changed.
[20:15] <shadeslayer> how so?
[20:20] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ^ I sorted them anyway, but why would this be an issue?
[20:56]  * Sick_Rimmit Appears from the mist
[20:56] <lordievader> Sick_Rimmit: o/
[20:57] <Sick_Rimmit> So I've been way busy over the summer with Family stuff, but am ready to put some more time back into Kubuntu.
[20:57] <Sick_Rimmit> Testing, and Docs seems like a good place to start.
[20:58] <Sick_Rimmit> Certainly happy to help with the Docs and Wiki stuff.
[20:58] <lordievader> :)
[20:58] <Quintasan> yay
[20:58] <Quintasan> more doc people
[20:58] <sgclark> I am also here for docs
[20:58] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: are you around?
[20:58] <Sick_Rimmit> Also when I saw Scarlett was looking to get involved too, it's seemed like a good time to buddy up with someone else who was trying to find their way in too
[20:59] <Sick_Rimmit> Kettle's calling beb
[20:59] <Sick_Rimmit> brb
[20:59] <ScottK> shadeslayer: When you look at a .install file and try to find if a file is listed in it already, it's much easier if they are in order.
[20:59] <ScottK> Also makes for better diffs later.
[21:01] <shadeslayer> ack
[21:02] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: the chroot does not keep installed packages
[21:02] <ovidiu-florin> I logged back in today and emacs is no longer installed
[21:02] <ovidiu-florin> :(
[21:04] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: you need --save-after-login
[21:04] <shadeslayer> when logging in
[21:04] <shadeslayer> that will save any changes you make
[21:04] <ovidiu-florin> I used it
[21:04] <shadeslayer> oh ...
[21:05] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: it logs me in as root but $HOME is set as my user
[21:05] <Quintasan> it sometimes bugs up
[21:05] <Quintasan> make sure you're doing --login --save-after-login
[21:05] <Quintasan> try it again
[21:07]  * Sick_Rimmit Returns with Hot Chocolate
[21:08] <ovidiu-florin> hmmmmm... chocolate
[21:08] <ovidiu-florin> this is what I use: sudo -E DIST=trusty ARCH=amd64 pbuilder --login --save-after-login
[21:10] <ovidiu-florin> it printed this: W: no hooks of type F found -- ignoring
[21:10] <ovidiu-florin> what does it mean?
[21:11] <shadeslayer> warning that it couldn't find a hook of type F ?
[21:11] <ovidiu-florin> what is type F?
[21:14] <shadeslayer> A is pre pbuilder , B is right after it's unpacked etc etc
[21:14] <shadeslayer> F is probably before it's detroyed
[21:20] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: you can irgnore that, if you're curious, the different types of hooks are documented in the pbuilder manpage under --hookdir
[21:20] <yofel> *ignore
[21:21] <ovidiu-florin> I'm unfamilliar with this:
[21:21] <ovidiu-florin> # apt-get update
[21:21] <ovidiu-florin> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found.
[21:21] <yofel> disable the https ppa url, install apt-transport-https and ca-certificates, enable it again
[21:27] <ovidiu-florin> W: GPG error: https://private-ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B2XXXXXXX
[21:28] <yofel> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 0945A8E2
[21:30] <ovidiu-florin> yaaay, no errors :)
[21:31] <Sick_Rimmit> lordievader: Thank you for your post to the list about the Wiki's I'm up to speed now.
[21:33] <lordievader> Sick_Rimmit: No problem, that was the goal ;)
[21:35] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: http://pastebin.kde.org/ppkjlxm80/fs0azb
[21:36] <shadeslayer> -> dinner
[21:36] <shadeslayer> ttyl
[21:37] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: you need to install pkg-kde-tools. If you always want to be on the safe side make sure you don't have any unmet build-deps like in line 2
[21:37] <yofel> though in this case, pkg-kde-tools will suffice
[21:37] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: this is on my host right?
[21:37] <yofel> right
[21:46] <ovidiu-florin> I've installed the dependencies, but I'm not sure what's hapening now
[21:47] <ovidiu-florin> it seems like it's installing lots of things
[21:47] <ovidiu-florin> but I'm not sure where it installes them
[21:48] <yofel> right, what pbuilder does is take the base chroot that it created before, installs all build-deps in there, then tries to build the package
[21:48] <yofel> it does that in /var/cache/pbuilder/build/$PBUILDER_PID/ by default
[21:49] <ovidiu-florin> ahaaam
[21:49] <ovidiu-florin> and does it publish the result somwhere?
[21:49] <ovidiu-florin> somewhere*
[21:50] <yofel> it should be in /var/cache/pbuilder/$DIST-$ARCH/result/
[21:57] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: so this won't affect http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.80_trusty.html ?
[21:58] <yofel> what you do locally doesn't affect it at all. That page is generated from the PPA build logs
[22:02] <shadeslayer> wohoo
[22:02] <shadeslayer> kdepim done finally
[22:02] <ovidiu-florin> then how can I make my work be usefull?
[22:03] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: give us access to a package with your modifications, or better: push a bzr branch with your changes that we can merge
[22:03] <yofel> as we generate the packages from bzr anyway
[22:03] <shadeslayer> yofel: I think he has access to ninjas
[22:03] <ovidiu-florin> I do
[22:03] <shadeslayer> so he can upload to ninjas
[22:03] <shadeslayer> and push a branch
[22:04] <ovidiu-florin> but I'm not sure how to do all this
[22:04] <ovidiu-florin> I'm still learning
[22:04] <yofel> oh I see, he's a team member, that makes things easier :)
[22:05] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: ok, how we update the ppa packages is roughly like this:
[22:05] <shadeslayer> kdepim uploaded \o/
[22:06] <shadeslayer> I can go to sleep now :P
[22:06] <yofel> get the branch: kbzr branch konsole
[22:06] <yofel> cd konsole
[22:06] <yofel> edit what's needed and edit changelog
[22:06] <yofel> commit
[22:06] <yofel> run bzr-buildpackage-ppa -s 2 (or higher)
[22:06] <yofel> where bzr-buildpacakge-ppa is from kubuntu-automation
[22:06] <yofel> then you have a source.changes that you can then dput to ppa:kubuntu-ninjas/ppa
[22:07]  * apachelogger stumbles in
[22:08] <yofel> now you would push your changes to the branch, but as you need to be a kubuntu-member to do that, please push to a new branch owned by you and give us the url so we can merge
[22:08] <apachelogger> kubotu: order tea, earl grey, hot
[22:08]  * kubotu is replicating a hot cup of earl grey for captain apachelogger.
[22:09] <apachelogger> yofel: so it appears there's bug squishing scheduled for friday evening?
[22:09] <apachelogger> <- still wondering when to go to munich
[22:10] <yofel> I'm not sure. Theoretically the bugsquashing session lasts the whole weekend, but it's not like we'll do that all the time. Maybe come on saturday? 
[22:11] <apachelogger> well, if we schedule drinks for friday evening I could also come friday :P
[22:11] <shadeslayer> or you could come for the entirety of it xD
[22:12] <yofel> +1
[22:12] <apachelogger> madness
[22:12] <ovidiu-florin> I'm looking forward to meeting you guys
[22:14] <apachelogger> do I need to bring a computing device?
[22:15] <shadeslayer> yes, and your computer and a sonic screwdriver don't count
[22:15] <shadeslayer> er, s/computer/phone/
[22:15] <apachelogger> meh
[22:16] <debfx> an abacus should be enough
[22:16] <apachelogger> goody
[22:16] <apachelogger> then I can do what I always do, muse on the meaning of life and why we can't have nice things
[22:16] <apachelogger> spoiler alert: the answer is 42
[22:19] <debfx> are you going to show us how to calculate that answer on your abacus? :)
[22:21] <apachelogger> I can do that, though I am not sure everyone is familiar with how to use an abacus, so the intro may take up too much time :P
[22:28] <ovidiu-florin> I'm off to bed nighty night
[22:29] <apachelogger> good night
[22:37] <Sick_Rimmit> So I just joined Trello, but I can't seem to see how I join the Kubuntu board
[22:38] <sgclark> same ^^
[22:38] <yofel> what's your names on trello?
[22:38] <sgclark> scarlettclark1
[22:38] <Sick_Rimmit> Oh its ricktimmis
[22:39] <yofel> added
[22:39] <sgclark> thank you
[22:39] <Sick_Rimmit> That's brilliant thank you
[22:41] <yofel> and added you to the docs board
[22:44] <Sick_Rimmit> Saw that come in as I was looking at what needs doing there. Thanks again
[22:51] <Sick_Rimmit> OK I'm getting somewhere now.
[22:52] <Sick_Rimmit> I've got me logins sorted on the wiki, and Trello. Will continue further tomorrow, thanks to sgclark lordievader and yofel for assisting.
[22:52] <Sick_Rimmit> I'm going to wrap it up for this evening. ttfn
[22:52] <sgclark> have a good night!
[22:58] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: catch you tomorrow perhaps, good night.
[23:29] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yeah I found my power cable in amongst my stuff thanks