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pittidarkxst: to 0.99? that requires grepping the archive for everything that uses suspend/hibernate etc. and porting it to logind, or to the new upower API05:08
pittidarkxst: so, would be nice, but as we stay with an old GNOME I don't know yet how much effort it would be05:08
pittidarkxst: but we'd most certainly need the current 3.12 settings-daemon at least05:08
darkxstpitti, right, quite a few patches in g-s-d for the new upower api07:54
darkxstother components don't seem so bad, but only looked at gnome bits07:58
seb128good morning desktopers!09:00
didrockshey seb128!09:01
seb128didrocks, hey ;-)09:01
pittibonjour didrocks et seb128, comment allez-vous ?09:01
didrockspitti: ça va bien, et toi?09:01
didrocksmais j'ai dû mettre le chauffage09:02
pittididrocks: ça va bien aussi, nous avons eu un week-end très calme09:02
pittididrocks: ici aussi, le premier fois après l'été :/09:03
seb128pitti, ça va bien merci !09:03
pittioh, "la première fois", oui ?09:03
seb128j'ai allumé le chauffage depuis qu'on est rentré de Californie...09:03
didrocksseb128: ouai, mais t'habite dans le nord lointain :)09:03
seb128ça fait 15j qu'il fait < 10°C09:04
seb128didrocks, voilà :p09:04
Laneygood morning!09:05
seb128Laney, hey, how are you? had a good w.e?09:07
Laneyhey seb128, good thank you - went up north for the weekend, was quite relaxing09:09
Laneyyou?09:09
seb128I had a relaxing w.e as well, thanks ;-)09:10
seb128some shopping and played video games09:10
seb128oh, and I went to see "gravity"09:10
seb128nice use of 3d ;-)09:11
Laneyoh yeah, everyone says that film is excellent09:12
seb128pitti, do we have a command/UI to enable reports from apport to launchpad?09:20
pittiseb128: sudo sed -i '/problem_types/ s/^/#/' /etc/apport/crashdb.conf09:21
pittiperhaps?09:21
seb128pitti, thanks, I keep forgetting what to change (and it's also not trivial to tell users "ok, need a bt for your problem, re-enable apport by edit that file and changing that line)09:22
pittiright, that's copy&pasteable09:23
* seb128 wishes it would be easier to see the e.u.c reports linked to a launchpad account09:23
seb128pitti, thanks09:26
seb128larsu, how is the gtk/o-s issue going?09:26
larsuseb128: gtk clips child windows on the allocation of the widget now. The overlay-scrollbar module gives scrollbars a 0-width allocation and adds two windows to the scrollbar which are only shown when necessary. These don't show up anymore because they're clipped09:32
larsuI see two solutions: (1) have a gtk patch that doesn't clip09:32
larsu(2) add the windows to the toplevel09:33
larsu(1) is ugly, (2) gives all kinds of positioning problems09:33
larsulike, I have scrollbars in the middle of windows :)09:33
seb128urg09:33
seb128is the clipping there for a good reason?09:33
larsuI'm trying to find that out right now. It seems to be related to the new way expose events are propagated09:34
larsu(i.e., not at all for non-native widgets)09:34
seb128hum, k, good luck, let me know if I can help for something...09:35
seb128(seems like you should maybe bounce a few more questions to alex on how to resolve it)09:35
larsuyep, thanks.09:35
larsuI talked to him again on Friday, but will probably have new questions today09:36
seb128(who knows, he might have a clever idea)09:36
seb128ok09:36
seb128Laney, can you confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1251729 ? localized searches work here09:44
ubot2Launchpad bug 1251729 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[search] Localized searches don't return results" [Undecided,In progress]09:44
Laneywhich one did you try?09:45
seb128several ones09:45
seb128"son" for "sound"09:45
seb128"jours" for "updates"09:45
LaneyI made it german and then searched for Funknetzwerke → no results09:45
LaneyIt might just be because that string isn't tranlsated09:46
Laneynope, it is09:46
Laney(obviously, it's being displayed)09:46
seb128Funknetzwerke works here09:46
mlankhorstoh morning09:56
Laney"Wi-Fi" QVariant(QStringList, ("network", "wireless", "wifi", "wi-fi", "settings", "Wi-Fi") )09:57
Laneyshould be translated, hmm09:57
Laneyhey mlankhorst09:57
mlankhorstseems wine broke on out of tree builds, sigh :P09:58
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Laneyhmm11:56
Laneyhow do I add custom strings to a translation template?11:57
Laneythe keywords in u-s-s aren't necessarily translated11:57
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seb128Laney, oh, right ... I'm not sure there is an official way, it seems that the usual method is to transform the format to a known one (like a desktop style _value=...)12:07
LaneyI found a bug in the translation stuff that made it not work ever (for me)12:08
Laneybut there is also this12:08
LaneyI'll just write some script to mangle it then12:08
mlankhorstbleh12:08
mlankhorsthow am I supposed to get a MRE without tb? :P12:08
Laneythere is a TB of one12:08
mlankhorstso either there will be unanimous acceptance or rejecting12:09
seb128Laney, shrug, it seems we regressed on the translation stuff with the port to cmake12:11
Laneyoh?12:12
seb128Laney, I don't even find how to generate the .pot with the current build system12:12
Laneythere's definitely a command in there to do that12:12
seb128which one?12:12
Laneylook in po/CMakeLists.txt12:12
Laneydon't know how you run it ...12:13
seb128shrug12:14
seb128I overlooked those stuff when I acked it :/12:14
seb128I don't think that's functional12:15
seb128Laney, we also had custom commands for e.g the .settings12:15
seb128settingsfiles.commands = awk \'BEGIN { FS=\": \" }; /name/ {print \"var s = i18n.tr(\" \$$2 \");\"}\' $${SETTINGSFILES} | tr -d ',' > $${SETTINGSFILETEMP}12:15
seb128that got dropped12:15
Laneybah12:15
seb128Laney, ^ btw that's the hackery I was talking about, I did that back then for getting the names in the template12:15
Laneywell, that's the kind of thing12:16
Laneyyou wrote that?12:16
Laneythat's some fun awk!12:16
seb128I remember skipping the keywords because I didn't know how to do it for the multiple lines :p12:16
seb128yes... ;-)12:16
Laneyoh hah12:16
LaneyI am writing a python script to do it12:16
seb128might be nicer/easier to maintain12:16
seb128I used awk because I started from a qmake example doing something similar12:16
seb128I just had to tweak the awk command for our syntax12:17
* Laney nods12:17
seb128mlankhorst, hey, could you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1197921 and sponsor the patch it you think it's fine for a SRU?12:27
ubot2Launchpad bug 1197921 in pixman (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice spreadsheet causes full Xorg crash with Anti-Aliasing enabled" [High,Triaged]12:27
mlankhorstseb128: was really hoping for a reply from upstream first :P12:32
mlankhorstparticularly since fixing it means doing 7 uploads12:32
seb128mlankhorst, ok ... why? that bug has a debdiff for pixman only, no?12:33
mlankhorstoh right it is12:33
mlankhorstin that case I want the commit upstream first :P12:33
mlankhorsthm I guess it is12:34
mlankhorst0.31.2 has the fix12:34
seb128do we have the fix is trusty? if not we should maybe start by that12:35
mlankhorstI think I fixed it in xorg-server there, but not pixman12:37
mlankhorstwhich is a good enough workaround. :P12:41
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Laneyok, got it working13:32
* Laney stabs cmake13:32
mlankhorstseb128: but I don't think I can upload a new pixman version, and allioth is down :(13:33
seb128Laney, \o/13:34
Laneyhmm13:35
Laneyshould probably filter out things which differ in case only13:35
seb128mlankhorst, ok, let me know if you need sponsoring ... no hurry but it would be nice to get that fix in/SRUed13:35
seb128Laney, you mean? for translations?13:35
Laneyyeah13:35
Laneythe keywords are all lower case13:35
seb128that seems hackish13:35
Laneywhat then?13:36
Laneyyou get them twice in the template otherwise13:36
Laney"sound" and "Sound"13:36
seb128you would check the UI string to see if there is one identical-noy-counting-the-case and input or not depending on that?13:36
mlankhorstseb128: yeah but I prefer it to be fixed in saucy first. I intend to backport pixman to the previous versions anyway.13:36
Laneyoh no just within this file13:36
seb128oh ok13:36
mlankhorstonce I get a MRE, anyway..13:36
seb128that seems alright then13:36
Laneyhmm, maybe not13:36
seb128mlankhorst, ok13:36
Laneylet me check if we downcase it before searching13:36
mlankhorstbut we'd need that in trusty first13:37
seb128Laney, we should do case-insensitive search13:37
LaneyI think that does happen13:37
seb128mlankhorst, right, is that blocked on alioth to be back?13:37
mlankhorstI guess we can do it without allioth, but I won't be able to sync the changes13:37
mlankhorstseb128: maybe upload 0.32.0 to debian first, then syncpackage it to trusty, and fix saucy separately?13:39
seb128mlankhorst, your call, being in sync with Debian would be better yes, once we have the fix in trusty we can backport to saucy/precise then13:40
seb128ChrisTownsend, hey, how are you?13:40
ChrisTownsendseb128: Well thanks.  You?13:40
seb128ChrisTownsend, I'm good thanks!13:41
seb128chrisccoulson, not sure if you did read your after w.e emails yet, Carlos commited a fix for the GTK scrolling issues13:41
seb128ups13:41
seb128ChrisTownsend, ^13:41
seb128chrisccoulson, sorry ;-)13:41
ChrisTownsendseb128: Heh, too many Chris's.13:41
seb128ChrisTownsend, would you be able to test it/confirm if it works or not?13:41
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seb128ChrisTownsend, I can upload to trusty/saucy if it's confirmed to work13:42
notchrisccoulsonseb128 ;)13:42
ChrisTownsendseb128: Yeah, I saw that.  I'm going to build it today and try it.13:42
seb128notchrisccoulson, hey ;-) how are you?13:42
notchrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, good thanks13:42
notchrisccoulsonhow are you?13:42
seb128ChrisTownsend, thanks, let me know!13:42
ChrisTownsendseb128: Although from our LP bug reports, it's looking like it doesn't fix it - at least for our bugs.13:42
seb128notchrisccoulson, I'm good thanks ;-)13:42
ChrisTownsendseb128: If this is true, I'll try to get teh debug output.13:42
seb128ChrisTownsend, well, at least upstream has a clue about the issue and added debug code, so maybe he's going to look more at it if it's still an issue13:43
seb128ChrisTownsend, who knows, maybe the user who tested didn't do it correctly as well...13:43
ChrisTownsendseb128: Right.  I'd like to help however I can to get this nailed.13:43
seb128ChrisTownsend, ok, step one is to test their commit ... let me know how that goes!13:43
ChrisTownsendseb128: Ok, will do.13:44
seb128thanks13:44
ChrisTownsendseb128: np!13:44
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mlankhorsthm looks like it's the safest to do a simple bugfix 0.30.0-314:07
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cyphermoxgood morning!14:24
seb128cyphermox, hey! how are you?14:33
cyphermoxsurviving14:33
cyphermoxI was woken up by strong wind and my cat at 4 am :)14:34
seb128that doesn't sound like a good week start14:34
seb128oh14:34
seb128so you say morning in the mid of your day? ;-)14:34
cyphermoxI just made spaghetti sauce half-asleep before loging in :)14:34
cyphermoxheheh14:34
cyphermoxseb128: good news14:36
cyphermoxI got a usable stack trace for the wpa bug14:36
seb128oh, nice!14:36
seb128cyphermox, is that enough to give you a clue about the issue?14:37
cyphermoxoh yeah14:38
cyphermoxI know exactly what it is, just need to figure out how to fix it14:38
seb128excellent14:40
ChrisTownsendseb128: The gtk patch did not fix the issues we are seeing.  I got some debug output and I'll attach it to the upstream bug and comment on the LP bugs.15:10
seb128ChrisTownsend, thanks!15:10
ChrisTownsendseb128: np15:11
seb128ChrisTownsend, you tested only under compiz? or did you test e.g xfce as well?15:11
ChrisTownsendseb128: Actually, a better repro case is to open a Gtk app such as gedit, make sure there is enough text in the window to allow scrolling, unfocus the window, and then try scrolling in the gedit window with the wheel on a USB mouse.15:12
ChrisTownsendseb128: I'm quite sure this is also what is causing the Compiz issue as well.15:13
seb128ChrisTownsend, ok, I'm just trying to see if we have a testcase easier than "try under Unity", since those guys mostly run fedora I think15:14
ChrisTownsendseb128: The case I mentioned above may affect Fedora as well.  At least I think it would as it doesn't seem Unity (or any other desktop) specific.15:16
seb128ChrisTownsend, good ;-)15:16
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mlankhorstseb128: pixman 0.30.2-2 accepted to unstable :P15:43
seb128mlankhorst, great!15:44
mlankhorstI guess launchpad will automatically pick it up now15:44
seb128yes, since we are in sync15:45
mlankhorstmaybe it will even close the lp bug for me16:11
seb128Laney, oh, webkit round3 ? ;-)16:33
Laneyheh16:33
Laneyit kept getting OOM killed on the porter box16:33
seb128:-(16:33
Laneybut got to the link stage ...16:33
Laneyso thought it was worth a try16:33
seb128I wonder if 2.3 fixes the s-c issue, probably not16:34
Laneydoubt it16:34
LaneyI still never even got that to happen16:34
seb128Laney, weird, since the trusty update I just have to run s-c and it hits that bug16:35
Laneymaybe it tickles some driver specific thing16:35
LaneyI've nvidia on both machines16:35
Laneywell, nouveau on the desktop iirc16:36
seb128Mirv, I've commented on your ppu wikipage, sorry for the delay16:49
seb128(I see that didrocks didn't do it either so I'm not last ;-)16:49
seb128Laney, yeah, maybe16:50
seb128Laney, btw did you plan to get the Debian goa in? You said they splitted the gtk part16:50
seb128Laney, is do you want to do that with the update/new eds?16:51
Laneyyes, after webkit16:51
Laneyhttps://launchpad.net/~laney/+archive/gnome-transition/ is ready16:51
seb128great16:51
seb128I didn't know you continued on that, I though you had it on the side since I said I would have a look16:52
seb128less work for me in any case, I like it ;-)16:52
Laney:-)16:52
Laneybah, forgot to include the arm64 patch in series16:53
seb128Laney, do you think it's worth a call for testing on the desktop list? or it's just early in the cycle and a few of us running it for sanity check and giving +1 should do?16:53
Laneywill this hell ever end16:53
didrocksMirv: seb128: yeah, I'm guilty :p16:53
seb128Laney, yeah, webkit is "fun", been there some cycles ago :/16:53
Laneymight as well see if ppc builds16:54
Laneyand I guess it'd be nice if some of us in the team ran the stuff16:54
Laneydidn't really intend to do a wider call, hmm16:54
seb128let me opt in and see how that goes16:54
Laneythere's some theme problems in evo16:56
Laneydidn't try UOA with 2fa yet to see if that is better16:56
seb128what sort of problems in evo?17:00
Laneythe frame around emails is black17:00
seb128oh, theming issues17:01
seb128hum17:01
Laneyyeah17:01
seb128I guess we can fix those later17:01
seb128Laney, it wants to remove mcp-account-manager-uoa ... normal?17:03
seb128nautilus-sendto-empathy as well17:03
seb128oh, empathy17:03
seb128oh, that's because the trusty version is newer17:03
Laneyah yeah17:03
LaneyI should rebuild it in the ppa17:03
Laneysec17:03
seb128Laney, that's ok, I did install empathy=ppa-version17:04
Laneyyou probably have to install evolution-data-server-uoa manually17:06
LaneyI don't think I made anything pull that in eyt17:06
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seb128calling a day, have a good everynight everyone17:40
Laneysee you17:40
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kenvandinei think i need to turn the AC on again... grrr18:23
mterryrobru, what was that script you were using to quickly bring up a VM again?22:13
robrumterry, https://github.com/robru/vagrant-desktop-images so handy ;-)22:14
mterryrobru, about to test some SRUs, immediately thought of you  :)22:14
robrumterry, lemme know if you hit any snags. sometimes it's a bit flaky, but all errors are recoverable. i can help you22:14
mterryk22:15
mterryrobru, lucid isn't supported?  :(22:16
mterryrobru, looks like not your fault but still makes me sad22:17
robrumterry, yeah, no lucid vagrant images are provided unfortunately22:21
TheMuso`And lucid desktop is no longer supported.22:26
robruTheMuso`, good point. mterry ^^22:33
mterryTheMuso`, true.  But I want an easy way to test an SRU for server, and I like pretty GUIs  :)22:36
robrumterry, haha. well actually these desktop images are created from cloud images, so it's a little bit suspect that we're not producing cloud images for lucid, which are still supported. I forget who to poke about that...22:42

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